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Ryne: Amen.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm okay, but that doesn't matter. We're back, back with another episode of the barn session. Welcome back. It's been a little bit. Um, definitely been taking our time with these post NCAAs, but we're here.
Cokeley Brothers: We're here to preview the U S open. Maybe talk about a little bit of of real American freestyle.
Reese: Who's we? Who's we?
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, the three of us, you Reese,
Reese: i think you you've you have ah you've rejected the last five times Ryan and I have asked to to to do a podcast.
Cokeley Brothers: Your requests for podcasts have been so so surface level. give me a time give me a Give me a time and I'll pull it.
Reese: Really?
Ryne: surface level what way? in what way
Cokeley Brothers: It's nothing but a fa nothing but a facade. You don't actually want to.
Reese: It's not a facade.
Cokeley Brothers: You just want it to like you want to give off the impression that you want to record.
Reese: No, no lies.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I mean, i i've look, I have been busy and that's on me. i need to I need to set some time aside for this. um Yeah. But we're here. We're here now.
Cokeley Brothers: and So let's get into it. Where do you want to start?
Ryne: wherever it's you It's your your show, Sammy.
Cokeley Brothers: ah No, I'm not the only one driving here.
Ryne: All
Reese: Well, what are we even talking about?
Ryne: right. US Open.
Reese: We're not doing we're not doing barn sessions. What are we talking about?
Cokeley Brothers: we to Dude, they're mad.
Ryne: talk ah let's talk about Let's talk about Sammy's lip filler. Why are your lips looking so huge right now?
Cokeley Brothers: They're mad.
Ryne: They look humongous.
Cokeley Brothers: they look as as They look as ridiculous as they've always looked.
Reese: that Mexican collagen.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, I'm sick right now. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe it's making my face puffy.
Ryne: Hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: But ah we're not doing sessions. They're mad about it, but I understand. I understand being upset about it.
Ryne: Disappointed, not, not mad, not mad.
Cokeley Brothers: It's okay. It's okay. I'm not mad.
Ryne: Disappointed.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm just disappointed. That's all. Look, let's let's talk about a little bit wrestling. We got the U.S. Open happening soon. Okay, it starts April 19th or not April 19th.
Reese: this week?
Cokeley Brothers: That's today. um Starts this week. And I want to talk about it. I want to talk about what's what's going to happen because this is the first official step for our world team trial our our world team selection process. And I think there's a lot of interesting entries.
Cokeley Brothers: And I think a lot can happen at this tournament. So I'm excited for it. So let's just start at 57 kilograms. What do you guys think?
Ryne: I don't know if I see anyone in there that's going to challenge the man.
Cokeley Brothers: Really? Let's just go through these. Let's go through some notable names here in the entries.
Ryne: Spencer Lee.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Anthony Knox, Antonio Mills, Bertie Teske.
Reese: Bye.
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Ryne: Brody's up there too.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, Elijah Oliver, Eric Barnett, Jet Strickenberger, Joey Cruz, Coda Holman, Liam Cronin, Luke Lilladol, Max Gallagher, Sheldon Seymour, Spencer Lee, Vinny Kilcary, and Vincent Robinson.
Ryne: We're going my man BT up there.
Cokeley Brothers: you know You don't feel like
Ryne: I just don't know if anyone can actually challenge him.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm interested to see how he does against Luke.
Ryne: I mean, just think he's too strong for Luke. Too strong.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. After seeing a a year of Luke not, or not ah a year, but a season of Luke not losing, you know.
Ryne: He lost. You saw it.
Cokeley Brothers: Lost to Nate Desmond.
Ryne: It counts.
Cokeley Brothers: Lost to his teammate. Yeah.
Ryne: counts.
Cokeley Brothers: That's true. After almost seeing a season of him not losing. umm um I'm intrigued because I'm sure that the name Spencer Lee has has been one that Luke Lodal has circled and that the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club coaching staff has worked on like game planning and strategizing for in terms of, okay, well, we've seen how other people have managed to beat Spencer Lee.
Cokeley Brothers: How can we do the same?
Ryne: Give V-Rob. I'm more interested to see V-Rob in Spencer Lee.
Cokeley Brothers: That's another, yeah, that's, that's another one that I'm interested in. And then I'm also just interested to see how the rest of the crop does, you know?
Reese: Thank you.
Ryne: think V-Rob could pose some interesting problems with his stingy counteroffense.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But, but like also how are, how are these up and coming guys like Anthony Knox and Antonio Mills, how are they going to do? Yeah.
Ryne: Mills, I just think i don't know if Mills is quite there yet.
Cokeley Brothers: You're just talking about for the senior level?
Ryne: Well, yeah, well, and Spencer Lee in general.
Reese: Thank you.
Ryne: I'm comparing everybody to Spencer Lee.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, yeah. Again, ah yeah, i like I'm not really necessarily super focused or worried about like who's going to win because it's going to be Spencer Lee or Luke Lilladol, most likely.
Cokeley Brothers: um Maybe Vince Robinson. But after that, I do want to see like what does third through eighth look like and you know what kind of grouping do we get there?
Cokeley Brothers: So...
Ryne: I want to see Vince Robinson, Luke Lilladol. I wanted to see it in folk style.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I mean, we'll definitely we'll definitely get it um at some point this next year.
Ryne: Darn Jonesy tilt ruined that.
Reese: Thanks.
Cokeley Brothers: Unless like...
Ryne: Do you think, do you think Spratly would have beat Ventresca?
Ryne: Had he not got that Jonesy tilt on V-Rob?
Cokeley Brothers: Do I think Spratly would have beaten Ventresca?
Ryne: if he would not have beaten V-Rob on the front side.
Cokeley Brothers: ah If he would have lost to V-Robin, had to have wrestled him in the blood round.
Ryne: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: would been It would have been the same sort of match that Ventresca has in all of his matches. Very close, coming down to write-outs. And then what happens from there?
Ryne: Yeah.
Ryne: I just think it's funny sometimes how one move can change the outcome of really the entire tournament.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Ryne: team Team score and everything. But anyway, okay.
Cokeley Brothers: No kidding. No kidding, dude.
Ryne: Sorry. Side-bye.
Cokeley Brothers: No, but I totally get it. Reese, you've been entranced.
Reese: No, I'm just trying to find the the entries.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Reese: And then was looking at the, this front page, the homepage on Flow. All the, didn't, they're, they're posting all the past finals.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh yeah. He got lost in the sauce.
Reese: I did, I got, and then I saw Ben Askren with the, with the dreads and I was like, Ooh, I didn't even know him and Donnie Pritzloff had a rivalry.
Cokeley Brothers: Right? Yeah. That is fun. But what do you think about 57 kilograms?
Reese: i think it's pretty I think Antonio Mills is interesting to me.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. How do you feel? how do you feel about Knox?
Reese: not Not as interested.
Cokeley Brothers: Not as interested. Okay. That's fair. All right. Let's, let's move on to 61 kilograms.
Ryne: Why? Why? Just say just sound of curiosity, why?
Reese: it took him three took him three matches to beat... What's-his-face? That sophomore in high school.
Cokeley Brothers: To beat Ignacio Villasenor.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: that was that was a year ago, though
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, things have changed, man. He's he's moved on from from the Spartan RTC to the Scarlet Knight RTC.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Big upgrade.
Reese: Yeah, blue chip producers right there. Blue chip game changers.
Cokeley Brothers: and
Cokeley Brothers: Phenomenal developers, actually. Top-notch.
Ryne: You guys are mean.
Cokeley Brothers: i've i've been on I've been on the the the
Reese: i was I was asked.
Cokeley Brothers: Rutgers struggles to develop tip for years now.
Reese: yeah and so and so are you, Ryan. You also feel that way.
Ryne: I know, but you guys are just mean.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. What were mean?
Ryne: They did all right this year. They did better than and people thought they were going to.
Reese: No AAs.
Cokeley Brothers: and Eight qualifiers and then two in the blood round. like Sure. But like nobody on the podium.
Reese: No, bad. That's bad. That's Wisconsin bad.
Cokeley Brothers: think with I think with the with the level of talent that they have in their room, whether it's through transfers or commits, you should expect a higher level of consistency from their out from their results.
Ryne: That was bad.
Cokeley Brothers: But that's beside the point. We've been here before. Let's move on to the 61 kilograms.
Cokeley Brothers: Notable names, Austin DeSanto, Ben Divino, Jax Forrest, Kyle Berwick. Who else? Marcus Blaze, Mikael McGee, Nathan Tomasello, Nick Bousakis, Seth Gross, Spencer Moore.
Cokeley Brothers: Who is missing from this? I thought there was a name that I was expecting in here that I don't see. Because I believe registration is closed at this point.
Ryne: Did you say Jax Forrest?
Cokeley Brothers: I did say Jax Forrest.
Ryne: Marcus Blazes in there.
Cokeley Brothers: He is in there.
Ryne: How
Cokeley Brothers: Marcus Blaze is in there.
Ryne: about Seidel going 65 for juniors?
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe it's...
Ryne: I like that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, he's I know. don't
Ryne: Give Oh, here's...
Cokeley Brothers: um
Reese: Why hasn't Flo added the Nittany Lion guys?
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know
Ryne: How about this? How about this? How's this one? How about Aiden Sinclair going 86 for juniors, but then 92 for seniors? That's weird to me.
Reese: Is it though?
Ryne: Kind of.
Cokeley Brothers: He's still junior eligible.
Ryne: and so probably Yeah, one more year. Some guys have two years like that.
Cokeley Brothers: Dang.
Ryne: It's like Deringer.
Cokeley Brothers: I know I was like that.
Ryne: Huh.
Cokeley Brothers: I just didn't think Aiden was like that.
Ryne: He's like that.
Cokeley Brothers: He's like that dude.
Reese: He's like that.
Ryne: Oh, he's like that.
Reese: He's a real one.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude. I love Aiden Sinclair. He's so he's such a like, he's the antithesis of what we see for most successful wrestlers this day, which is like minimize. Oh, did I lose you guys?
Cokeley Brothers: Am I still here?
Ryne: No. No, we're here.
Cokeley Brothers: He is minimize the amount that you wrestle and like Aiden Sinclair wrestles every single opportunity that he can, that he's, that he's given.
Reese: He scores.
Cokeley Brothers: He, he, he wrestled at NCAAs and then followed it up the next week with a real American freestyle match. And then he wrestled real American freestyle last night against the heat Valencia. And here he, he's got a quick turnaround for the U S open. I don't know I think it's very interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: So I like seeing it.
Ryne: He is the man, question mark.
Cokeley Brothers: Eh, he could be. You could call him the man. One might refer to him as the man.
Ryne: I refer to him as the man.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, there you go. I lost my monitor. My monitor disconnected, so we're on the laptop.
Cokeley Brothers: 61 kilograms. It is Jack's Forest.
Cokeley Brothers: and And I don't know about the rest, man. Nick Bousakis is interesting. Obviously, Seth Gross is interesting. Marcus Blaze. But Ben DeVino, can any of these names... Austin DeSanto, can any of these names stop Jax Forrest from winning another U.S. Open title?
Ryne: You never can count out Seth Gross.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm...
Reese: Yeah, I think it's it's between Jax, Marcus, Blaze, and maybe Seth Gross.
Cokeley Brothers: I think ah think Blaze has the best shot.
Reese: That's it.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: It's an interesting way, though.
Cokeley Brothers: I think it's an interesting way. it doesn't have veto anymore, but that's okay. we'll do We'll do without veto for a little bit.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, I guess we'll do without veto at this weight, maybe in permanence.
Ryne: Sadly.
Ryne: Forever. Forever.
Cokeley Brothers: My... My headphones are telling me to charge them. So we're going to lose those here soon. But yeah, give me, I think Jack's force is going to win this one. He's just, he's too much dang fun.
Reese: Give me Marcus Blaze.
Cokeley Brothers: Gross.
Cokeley Brothers: You need help.
Reese: I want to see Jacks Forrest lose.
Cokeley Brothers: You've got PDS man or PSDS.
Reese: PSDS.
Cokeley Brothers: Penn state derangement syndrome.
Reese: What? that would be That would mean I would hate them.
Cokeley Brothers: No. Whatever it means.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Delusion. Penn State delusion. PSD.
Reese: It's one, that's one, it's just one Penn State game.
Cokeley Brothers: there' there's There's a lot.
Reese: It's not like I picked Glu Glu Liddell over, oh, he's not even, is he wrestling?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Luke is wrestling.
Reese: Okay.
Ryne: where you been
Cokeley Brothers: dude
Ryne: Where and you been?
Cokeley Brothers: You're looking at old entries.
Reese: Who's not, who's not registered from the Nittany, from Nittany Lions?
Cokeley Brothers: ah PJ Duke and Mitchell Mezenbrink.
Ryne: PJ Duke and Mitchell West Brink.
Reese: That's right. They don't have them added.
Ryne: Well,
Reese: They don't have any of the Nittany Lion guys added on Flow.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. You know, you're going to be mad at me for...
Ryne: and then, and then leave Levi Haynes, Levi Haynes won't be there either.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: Cause he has accepted his birth.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah and And neither will Kyle Snyder because he's also accepted at birth.
Reese: Right.
Cokeley Brothers: But, um you're Reese, you're going hate me for for what website I'm using.
Ryne: earth
Cokeley Brothers: that has up-to-date entries.
Reese: What?
Cokeley Brothers: I'll put it in the chat.
Reese: What is it?
Reese: Ew. I'm not clicking on that.
Cokeley Brothers: Ryan, get off your phone, dude.
Ryne: No.
Cokeley Brothers: Be present with us.
Ryne: I can't. i Listen, if I open up another tab, it slows everything down real bad.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, you're looking at the entries on your phone.
Ryne: So I have to do, sorry, I apologize to our audience, but this is how I have to do things right now.
Cokeley Brothers: You suck. 65 kilograms. We have somebody sitting in the finals or in Final X. That is Real Woods. ah But the entries, we've got Aiden Valencia, Bo Bartlett, Bo Bassett, Brock Hardy, David Evans, Ethan Fernandez, maybe Jesse Mendez, Joey Butler. Everybody loves a little bit of Joey Butler action. Joey McKenna.
Cokeley Brothers: Julian Farber, Kale Peterson, Coy, Biscons, Kyson Garcia, na Nate Desmond, up at 65, also up at 65. Nick Soriano.
Cokeley Brothers: Big Nicky.
Ryne: I like that.
Cokeley Brothers: Pearson Manville.
Reese: This is a good way
Cokeley Brothers: Ryan Anderson is back from beyond the grave. ah Vito Arugia was up at 65. Yeah, dude, this is going be fun. Wait.
Cokeley Brothers: My goodness. Somebody said as a, as a, as bait, they said, if you could enter, um, everybody from the U S at 65 kilograms that they'd sweep the sweep, the podium,
Ryne: Hmm, no.
Cokeley Brothers: which is just not true, but they would do the, the amount of depth that we have at this weight is gray. It's just like our top is not, is like maybe a metal contender,
Cokeley Brothers: which is tough, but I think what,
Ryne: Yes. Which Stanage was in there?
Reese: yeah yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Ryne: Big Stanage, big Luke Stanage guy right here.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm guessing... I'm guessing he's taking a break to fully recover from whatever injury he was already dealing with during the season. ah But I think this is probably the most interesting wait at the U.S. Open. Because, like, what is Bo Bassett going to look like against this field? Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Can we see a younger name challenge for the spot against Real Woods? Or is it going to be Joey McKenna rising to the top again?
Cokeley Brothers: Or is Vito Ruggia coming up a weight going to make his way back to another world team? Can Nick Suriano finally make it to Final X?
Ryne: Vito vs. Bo Bassett. Yeah, I like that. Vito vs.
Cokeley Brothers: Who?
Ryne: Bo Bassett.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, that's but that's a bad that's a bad recipe for Vito.
Ryne: I like that.
Cokeley Brothers: I can't lie.
Reese: You think so?
Cokeley Brothers: He's gassing Vito out early.
Ryne: I like 65 Vito. and like sixty five veto
Reese: What if... Yeah, what if Bo comes in hot and then Vito just stings him like two or three times?
Cokeley Brothers: No, Vito, did you?
Reese: He could do that.
Cokeley Brothers: Do you think Bo's going to slow down?
Reese: And yeah, or he'll just continue to... Try, he'll get in a hole and then try dumber stuff and then Vito stings him a couple more times.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. Maybe, um I could also see veto gassing. Like, did you guys see his last, his first tournament up at 65? I
Reese: Mm-mm.
Ryne: Yeah, that was his first time up there. He's making adjustments.
Cokeley Brothers: i know. Well, well, yeah, but like the biggest issue was how tired he was getting in his matches, which if you're not cutting as much weight, you would think wouldn't be a problem, but
Ryne: No, but you you're also, you know, it's more resistance. You know what i mean?
Cokeley Brothers: yeah, like you're you're moving more mass. I understand.
Ryne: Mm-hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: um i'm just i'm I'm apprehensive to be all in on Vito.
Ryne: Took David Taylor a few goes, but...
Reese: He's finally at at the weight he should be.
Cokeley Brothers: you think You think this is the best fit for him?
Ryne: Agreed.
Reese: Yes.
Cokeley Brothers: What is it, 143? That's a bit big for him.
Reese: No, it's not.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. 61 might have been perfect.
Reese: He's not small.
Ryne: Nope.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't know.
Ryne: I'm with Reese on this.
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe you're right. I'm not going to lean on my belief too strongly. Vito is super interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: Nick Suriano.
Cokeley Brothers: but lot of people are going to ask like what can what can ah Nate Desmond do with this weight. He might struggle to place. this is This is not a easy to traverse weight class.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, well, I don't feel like he's... like he's going to a bit small, or not big, at least for the weight, but like, between Aiden Valencia, Bo Barlett, Bo Bassett, Brock Hardy, Vito Rujau, Joey McKenna, Jesse Mendez, like, who's he going to beat to place?
Reese: If he wrestles like McKenna or Mendez, if he runs into them, then yeah, it's probably to ugly.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I mean, dude, like, the top eight of this weight is... ridiculous
Reese: But Bassett is another guy where I feel like, I don't know. I think there's a lot of guys in here that if they wrestle Bassett, they're going to, like if they're lankier kind of that could give him some real problems.
Cokeley Brothers: Brock Hardy yeah why isn't where's where's ah where's Mr. I can't be taken down Sergio Vega what the heck
Reese: Yeah, great question.
Ryne: um You know, he he's probably too big for 65. he might even be He might even have a hard time making 70 kilograms right now.
Cokeley Brothers: What?
Ryne: I heard he's humongous. I saw a picture of him. He looked bigger than Landon.
Reese: yeah he did he Yeah, I saw like a video of him and he was tall.
Cokeley Brothers: Really?
Reese: He was like almost a whole.
Ryne: Yes. Taller taller and taller and fuller than
Reese: year
Cokeley Brothers: Well,
Cokeley Brothers: right. But like, I understand the taller part, but I don't know.
Ryne: robaddo
Cokeley Brothers: I guess maybe he filled out, but.
Ryne: He looks huge, dude.
Reese: He'll fill out eventually.
Ryne: He looks like he would be a like a good size 70 kilograms guy right now.
Cokeley Brothers: Interesting.
Reese: And everybody was saying how he was cutting a shitload away 141 to make 141.
Ryne: who
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, he was skin and bones. He was skin and bones. But like, I don't know.
Ryne: Was he Skeletor?
Cokeley Brothers: they Like, I mean, yeah, he was skinny out there. So I don't know. I guess he's too big for 65 now. Well, I would have loved to have seen him against this field.
Cokeley Brothers: That's all I'm saying. I don't actually think he's a coward.
Ryne: i agree yeah
Cokeley Brothers: if he's If he's not wrestling because he's growing or because he's recovering or whatever, or if he just doesn't want to, that's totally fine.
Cokeley Brothers: um All right. What else? do Any closing thoughts on 65? Okay. Yeah.
Ryne: No. Give me veto.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah Give me, also give me veto. um Reese.
Ryne: Race.
Ryne: Do it.
Reese: Joey McKenna.
Cokeley Brothers: Pussy.
Ryne: I knew it.
Cokeley Brothers: He's sticking with his with his with his class. All right, 70 kilos. Alec Pantaleo, Caleb Henson, Chance Lamer, Cody Chittum, Connor Pierce,
Reese: Alec Pantaniel.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Ed Scott,
Cokeley Brothers: ah Jace Luchow. Wow. Jaden Abbas, Jackson Joy, Jonathan Milner, Jordan Williams.
Ryne: did you say Did you say Jace Lukau?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Luchow. Luchow? How do you say it?
Ryne: Lukau.
Cokeley Brothers: Luchow.
Ryne: Lukau.
Cokeley Brothers: Luchow.
Ryne: That's funny. what it What's it say?
Cokeley Brothers: Like a british British toilet and then a bovine animal.
Ryne: what does it say?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: he's Who's he wrestling for?
Cokeley Brothers: It says he's wrestling for Silverback Training Center, LV.
Reese: back.
Ryne: I
Cokeley Brothers: Melvin Miller. Ridge Lovett. ah Tyler Kasach. Man, this is a fun weight class. This is a weight class.
Cokeley Brothers: Alec Pantaleo definitely steps, jumps out to me in terms of names. but remember Remember the last time he wrestled at the U.S. Open? What happened?
Ryne: and don't know what happened.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, what's his name from ah from Oklahoma threw him to his back and pinned him?
Cokeley Brothers: Gosh, what's his name? Is his name also Joey Butler?
Reese: Hello?
Ryne: Oh, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Is don't answer that. He tried calling me just now.
Ryne: Is it dad?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: Oh, No, I'm next.
Ryne: And I'm going to answer it.
Cokeley Brothers: Are there two Joey Butler's in the sport?
Cokeley Brothers: Or um gosh, what's his name? Somebody help me.
Reese: hello
Cokeley Brothers: Nevermind, just forget it.
Ryne: No, one's Joey Butler and the other one's, you're talking about, because you're talking about the kid who was at oh Oklahoma and then at Rutgers, right?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, Jacob Butler.
Ryne: Jacob, that's what it was.
Cokeley Brothers: Jacob Butler, my goodness. Yeah, Jacob Butler pinned Alec Pantaleo the last time he was at the US Open.
Cokeley Brothers: It's also, I think, Henry Lunsford from Lunsford Loves Wrestling. I think that's who that is. Ian Parker. um you haven't seen Jonathan Milner in a while.
Reese: jump jump
Cokeley Brothers: Jordan Williams. I don't know if we're going to see him in Folk's Isle again. Lane Yapujian of the Yapujian Brothers.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, dude. Give me... Unfortunately, I think this is a a an Alec Pantaleo and ah and Tyler Kasach weight class. Oh, no.
Cokeley Brothers: no No, no, no, no. Caleb Henson.
Ryne: Oh, yeah. Give me Caleb Henson. I'm taking it.
Reese: And Rich Lovett.
Cokeley Brothers: And Ridge Lovett.
Ryne: Yeah, give me, give me Caleb Henson.
Reese: What are you talking about, man?
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. right, all all right.
Reese: It's really, it's Rich Lovett, KSAC, Panty, in my opinion.
Cokeley Brothers: Give me...
Cokeley Brothers: Give me Caleb Henson.
Cokeley Brothers: I want the hit man.
Reese: He's not winning.
Cokeley Brothers: He's winning it. he's Dude, he's he's such a tournament wrestler.
Reese: He won one tournament.
Ryne: Give me the hit, man.
Reese: He's won one tournament, and it was basically pure
Ryne: Who are you taking?
Reese: pure luck.
Cokeley Brothers: Tomfoolery.
Reese: Yeah, shenanigans to the max.
Cokeley Brothers: And ho hooliganism. No, he earned it. um
Reese: I have a tough time.
Cokeley Brothers: Sorry.
Reese: I want to pick Ridge. I want to pick Alex Pentaleo. I also want to pick Tyler Kasach. don't know who to pick.
Cokeley Brothers: Just pick one. Three, two, one.
Reese: No.
Cokeley Brothers: Coward.
Reese: I won't pick any.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. 74 kilograms.
Ryne: You are a coward Reese.
Reese: Alright, I'll pick Pantano.
Cokeley Brothers: We got.
Ryne: Yes.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, coward. Brock Herman, Bryce Andonian, Caleb Bish, Cam Amin, David Carr, EJ Parco, Ethan Burden.
Ryne: No.
Ryne: Sammy, that last coward was uncalled for. did not need to hit him with that.
Reese: Yeah, why are you calling me a coward? Who do you think you are?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, here's Jacob Butler, James Green up at 74 kilograms.
Reese: hey hey hey hey
Cokeley Brothers: I love that. Jarrett JQs, Joey Bianchi, Joe Seeley, Kanan Webster up at 74 kilos, Matty Bianchi, Max Brignola, Nico Ruiz, Noah Mulvaney, Peyton Robb, Quincy Monday, Ryan Moore, Ryder Downey, Sean Seafelt, Terrell Baraclaw, Tyler Lillard, Will Luan, and Yaya Thomas.
Reese: hey hey hey a hey hey hey a
Reese: of samy andy heavy
Cokeley Brothers: What's up What's up
Cokeley Brothers: Isn't he also in your class?
Reese: right
Reese: What?
Cokeley Brothers: Wasn't Alec Pantaleo also in your class?
Reese: No.
Cokeley Brothers: No, is he younger?
Reese: No, he's in my class.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Well, my point stands.
Cokeley Brothers: um All right.
Reese: Oh, does that make me a coward?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: What does that make you?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, this is a, it makes me also a coward. du
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: um David Carr is the clear far and away front runner in this weight, but I am interested in James green up at this weight class.
Reese: Thank you.
Cokeley Brothers: And
Cokeley Brothers: what can Kane and Webster do? What can I see out of a Peyton Rob, a Quincy Monday,
Cokeley Brothers: Come on, Tyler Lillard, do something. Do something for me. you know give me Give me one of these... Yeah,
Ryne: Give me David Carr. No.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah i mean, Bryce Andonian. Spice it up a little bit. Give me a little bit of zhuzh. Cameron Amin, don't wrestle like Will Luan.
Reese: You like the juice,
Cokeley Brothers: What?
Reese: You like the juice,
Cokeley Brothers: Who do you have, Reese?
Reese: You like the juice. You you've never seen that?
Cokeley Brothers: No, no, I haven't.
Reese: You like the juice, eh? You want some more the juice.
Cokeley Brothers: feel like Ryan's doing more than looking at entries on his phone.
Reese: Yeah, what are you watching there?
Ryne: I'm listening to this. You want to know what I'm doing right now? I'm looking right up looking up what this dude was saying just now.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: You want to the more the juice. You like the juice. it's a it's ah It's like Rob Schneider.
Ryne: Saturday Night Live. Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Chris Farley.
Ryne: and think i have seen I think I have seen this one before.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: We like the juice, huh?
Reese: Wait, I want to watch.
Cokeley Brothers: Just tap it. Guys.
Ryne: huh? Juice is good. Very good. So good. They're getting you the juice, my friend. Oh, great. It's good, huh?
Ryne: With the juice? Yeah. How about your friend? It's not as funny as I remember it being.
Ryne: as funny as i remember it being
Reese: This way it is David Carr, Bryce Andonian, James Green, and that's it.
Cokeley Brothers: And then a bunch of tier threes.
Ryne: Wait, wait, so did James Green, is he going to Virginia Tech? that real?
Cokeley Brothers: That is the word, but, uh, I think Quincy's Quincy's got some, some cred.
Reese: And Quincy Monday, I guess.
Ryne: Don't forget about Yahya. Give Yahya his flowers.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Otherwise we will.
Reese: I won't give Yaya his flowers, and it's not his fault.
Cokeley Brothers: It's just, yeah. Um,
Ryne: The sins of the father are not the sins of the son, Reese.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Ryne: It's just like, no, no.
Reese: When they're both still alive.
Ryne: That's terrible.
Reese: my
Ryne: All right, moving on, 79.
Cokeley Brothers: Can you still hear me?
Ryne: but what's he What's he saying, Reese?
Cokeley Brothers: Can you still hear me?
Ryne: ah He's saying, I can't, what?
Reese: so my pick at is bryce sandtonian
Cokeley Brothers: Hello? Hello? Hello?
Ryne: Sammy, I think Sammy's trying to talk.
Reese: who's your pick run
Cokeley Brothers: Fuck.
Ryne: We can hear you. We can hear you.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh my goodness. Stop it. Don't do that to me.
Ryne: I was trying to hold it together, but I couldn't. I was starting to crack.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. 79 kilos. You know who is a 74?
Reese: Wait, wait, wait, who's your pick?
Ryne: David Carr.
Cokeley Brothers: seventy four David Carr. David Carr.
Reese: Who's your pick, coward?
Cokeley Brothers: David Carr. James Green.
Reese: That's a coward pick.
Cokeley Brothers: james green
Reese: That's better.
Ryne: Oh, I like it. 2011. twenty eleven
Cokeley Brothers: Tyler Lillard.
Ryne: Ooh.
Reese: Ooh, even better.
Ryne: Who, who, who, Hoosier?
Cokeley Brothers: Yep. Hoosier. 79 kilograms. Surprise entry. Bernie Truax. His team name, having fun.
Ryne: That's awesome.
Cokeley Brothers: Having fun.
Ryne: i'm I'm picking Bernie.
Cokeley Brothers: I hope he has fun wrestling Chance Marsteller.
Reese: That's so douchey.
Cokeley Brothers: Or Dean Hammity Jr. Or...
Ryne: I'm picking Bernie.
Cokeley Brothers: Evan Ward. We've got James Rowley.
Ryne: Give me Bernie.
Cokeley Brothers: We've got Jonathan Curvin, formerly a Hoosier. Keegan O'Toole.
Ryne: what what are the chances What are the chances James Rowley is the one behind Rowley-Rudis?
Cokeley Brothers: We've got...
Ryne: Or Rudis-Rowley, whatever it is.
Cokeley Brothers: No. No, there's no way. Matt Singleton, Muhammad McBride, Miles Tackett, Patrick Kennedy,
Ryne: He's got Sammy right here. He's right where he wants him.
Cokeley Brothers: Simon Ruiz, Henkel,
Reese: Who is this?
Ryne: Nothing. Never mind.
Cokeley Brothers: don't Don't worry about it. i don't want to even talk about that.
Ryne: there's just There's this Twitter personality that's really annoying.
Cokeley Brothers: A total loose cannon, dude. Yeah.
Ryne: He is a total loose cannon. he's He's quite funny sometimes.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: But his name is Rudis Rowley. And I asked Sammy how funny would it would it be if James Rowley actually the one behind Rudis Rowley.
Reese: I think I've seen him.
Reese: I've also thought that i was like, is this from James Rowley?
Ryne: And what if it is just any, he's like, I'm just gonna use my name just to throw people off too.
Reese: Is it James Rowley?
Ryne: I'm picking him. I'm picking James Rowley for the open and for the one behind Rudis Rowley.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Reese.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Give me a chance, Marsteller, dude.
Ryne: No, I'm just kidding. I'm picking,
Ryne: want to pick Dean Hamidi.
Cokeley Brothers: Dean Hamidi, Evan Wick, Will Henkel. Whatever the heck, Bernie Truax doing it this way.
Ryne: Yeah, give me Dean. Give me mean Dean Hamity.
Cokeley Brothers: Keegan O'Toole, if he's healthy, i don't know. kind of feels It feels like we've lost him a little bit. Okay,
Ryne: Nope, I'm picking Keegan O'Toole. I haven't lost faith. and'm back I'm back on it. Keegan O'Toole, he's my pick.
Reese: Kegan O'Toole.
Cokeley Brothers: I'll stick with Chance Marsteller.
Ryne: Coward.
Cokeley Brothers: Got one. All right, 86 kilograms, we got... ah Uh, KD Vos, Chris Moore, Colton Hawks, uh, frigging Devin Winston. Whoa.
Ryne: Whoa, where's he rest?
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, dude, the, uh, he's wrestling for Valley wrestling club.
Ryne: Who's your lesson for?
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know, dude. I love how the U S open just pulls people out of the woodwork. It's, it's crazy. Some of the names that you see on here, ah like Kyle Dake. I mean, come on, uh, Marcus Coleman, Max McAnally, Makai Lewis,
Cokeley Brothers: ah Parker Keckisen, Rocco Welsh, Ryland Rogers. There's some fun ones in here.
Ryne: Give me Parker Kekisen.
Cokeley Brothers: Makai Lewis, that's fun. Parker Keckisen, he has looked very dangerous. Rocco Welsh, I don't think very good at freestyle.
Cokeley Brothers: I wouldn't put much money on him. Max McAnally, U20 world champ, Marcus Coleman, he's beaten Aaron Brooks before. But I'm going to go with Kyle Dake.
Cokeley Brothers: Give me Kyle Dake.
Ryne: Goward.
Cokeley Brothers: Give me Kyle Dake.
Ryne: Just kidding. ah kind of want to take Kaldig too, but I'm going with Parker Kekheisen. Reese, who are you taking?
Cokeley Brothers: Do you think who would be the best rep at Worlds?
Reese: Colton Hawks.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that's because he beat Sonny Sasso and Bennett Berge.
Reese: So I needed to see
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. That's all I needed to see, too.
Ryne: Who'd you pick, Reese? My computer kind of went crazy there Who'd you take?
Reese: Colton Hawks.
Ryne: Ah It's a terrible It's a terrible pick It's a terrible pick
Cokeley Brothers: No, that's why I went crazy. yeah
Reese: Car.
Cokeley Brothers: Just fucking.
Cokeley Brothers: My goodness. oh
Ryne: saying Say it ain't so
Cokeley Brothers: i I don't, I really like 86 is Kyle Dake's weight.
Reese: Who?
Cokeley Brothers: It's just, did you guys, like, did you guys see how he did against Kadiev?
Reese: Who?
Cokeley Brothers: Russia's rep.
Ryne: No, i did not.
Cokeley Brothers: It's just like, I just don't think he's got it anymore for like these younger guys. Kyle Dake at 86.
Cokeley Brothers: He wrestled Kadiev at the last ranking series event. And I just don't feel,
Ryne: But you're you're taking you're taking Kyle Dake.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, well, then I asked the question, who do you think is the best rep for us at like at Worlds? like Where it actually matters. And I'm starting to tell myself, like maybe Kyle Dake isn't the pick. Because like is he going to be able to get past Zahid Valencia?
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Reese: Oh, is that, is kind of are we picking, we're just picking our U.S. Open champs.
Ryne: near
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Is the heat, is the heat in there, in in the,
Cokeley Brothers: Zahid's sitting in the finals.
Reese: Yeah, okay, so you think how they can beat Zahid?
Cokeley Brothers: Final X.
Reese: I don't.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, I'm thinking, like, is Zahid the best rep?
Reese: Yes?
Cokeley Brothers: Is he?
Ryne: Yeah, yeah when he when he gets his stuff together, he's the best guy.
Cokeley Brothers: Is he going to get his stuff together? Answer me that.
Ryne: I think so.
Cokeley Brothers: Zahid, you're going to get your stuff together because you got this you got this this motto that says don't trip. It feels like you've been tripping a lot lately.
Reese: He's not tripping.
Cokeley Brothers: It makes me feel like I'm starting to trip.
Reese: You're tripping. Yeah, you're tripping.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: He is not tripping.
Cokeley Brothers: Zahid, when you trip, it makes us all feel like we're tripping.
Reese: He's not tripping. You're the only one tripping.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, did you see him get tech-falled by Parker Keckisen?
Ryne: You're hating.
Reese: And he did not trip.
Ryne: You're hating.
Reese: Not one bit. He was just like... Don't
Cokeley Brothers: And did you see him get tech-falled by, was it was it George's Gomkralids, right?
Reese: trip.
Reese: Yeah. He probably...
Cokeley Brothers: and
Reese: he probably hopped off the mat and was like...
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not tripping.
Reese: I'm not tripping.
Cokeley Brothers: But he's tripping on the mat, and that's the part that that I care about the most.
Reese: He's not tripping, dude. He's just wrestling.
Cokeley Brothers: He's just wrestling.
Reese: Sometimes you lose.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. Do you feel like he's because he looked pretty good against Hayden Sinclair last night. I don't know. i know you guys didn't care about watching real American freestyle, but six to one.
Reese: What do he do? How bad he beat him?
Reese: Domination.
Cokeley Brothers: Six to two.
Reese: It's domination, boys.
Cokeley Brothers: Six. Was it was it?
Reese: It's dominance.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. Six to one, six to two, something like that.
Cokeley Brothers: Sorry.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh my goodness. I'm dying. um
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know, man. I am. I'm interested.
Reese: I don't know, man.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm interested in Max McAnally and Makai Lewis. Rocco Welsh. Get some, get some interesting matchups in this weight, but it's going to be Kyle Dake versus somebody in the finals. Probably Keck Eisen.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. And it's probably really close and tech guys.
Ryne: It's going to be Keck Eisen versus somebody in the finals.
Cokeley Brothers: And just, huh?
Ryne: It's be Keck Eisen versus somebody in the finals, not Kyle Dake.
Cokeley Brothers: mean yet That's
Ryne: It's Kyle Dake or Keck Eisen is the foregone conclusion. Got it, punk.
Cokeley Brothers: again bit yeah bit pink that's what you sound like. Try not to wake up your daughter.
Reese: That is exactly what you sound like.
Ryne: thats way that's way you That's what you sound like because of your lip fillers. You Botox-looking biatch.
Cokeley Brothers: That's just...
Ryne: How's that? How's that?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah, dude, I got all sorts of cosmetic work going on right now.
Ryne: How's that? Yeah, he's got wiener filler too.
Reese: Yeah. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Come on, Ryan.
Cokeley Brothers: pat kelly Pat Kelly listens to these. Come on.
Reese: Yeah. Pat Kelly does look at these.
Cokeley Brothers: What are we doing? You got to have a sign and you you gotta have a sign that you put up whenever we record these that says Pat Kelly is always watching.
Reese: You gotta say things like... You
Reese: gotta say like acronyms.
Cokeley Brothers: That reminds me.
Reese: Like, Sammy, you got those DSLs.
Reese: And Pat's gonna be like, what's that, DSL?
Cokeley Brothers: Stop it.
Cokeley Brothers: 92 kilograms. Aiden Sinclair, Cody Merrill, Dustin Plott, Gabe Sollers, maybe Jacob Cardenas, Jacob Woodley, Josh Barr, Jude Correa.
Ryne: ah cardinis I thought Cardenas was wrestling for Itali.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that was a rumor that somebody made up and I asked him about it and he said, I don't know where that came from.
Ryne: Oh, OK.
Cokeley Brothers: He said, I don't know where that came from. I'm not even Italian. I said, I don't know, dude.
Ryne: Oh.
Cokeley Brothers: Mike Machiavelli, Patrick Brophy, you do.
Ryne: Now I look stupid.
Cokeley Brothers: Seth Shoemate with a lowercase s. ah And that's about it.
Cokeley Brothers: ah I like Cardenas. Remember, in the finals of this weight is Trent Heidley. I like Cardenas. I like Plot. I like Machiavelli.
Cokeley Brothers: And I like Josh Barr. Oh gosh, Josh Barr is probably the the guy in this group. But also him and versus Cardenas.
Ryne: Yeah, I'm taking bar.
Cokeley Brothers: That's a good one.
Ryne: I'm taking bar.
Cokeley Brothers: We also got Cody Merrill. Can't sleep on the Cowboys.
Reese: Sinclair, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: Aiden Sinclair's in there too.
Reese: You don't think Sinclair, he beat Josh Barr. He took one match away from him, didn't he?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but dude, that the size difference has got to be staggering right now.
Reese: I don't think so.
Cokeley Brothers: You don't think so?
Reese: I don't think so.
Cokeley Brothers: You don't think so?
Reese: Here's what I think. 86, the guys at 86 kilos are much, or the guys at 184 that were at 184 this year, like the top tier guys, are head and shoulders better than any of the guys that were at bars weight.
Ryne: You're saying everyone else's knees and toes worse than than than them.
Reese: They're, yeah, exactly.
Cokeley Brothers: Brilliant.
Reese: They're knees and toes.
Cokeley Brothers: Brilliant. um
Ryne: Thank you.
Cokeley Brothers: I think, I think Cody Merrill's pretty good. i don't know if I would necessarily,
Reese: And he what? He beat Cody. Cody Murrells lost to Rocky Elam. And who did? Is that it? Is that the only? He took another loss this year, right?
Cokeley Brothers: uh, my Soma
Reese: And Dean. He lost to N. Dean and Rocky Elam.
Cokeley Brothers: dude. Well, the Elam match was when Elam was still healthy, which a healthy Elam is pretty dang good.
Reese: A healthy, still a healthy Elam is still not somebody who ever has made the finals.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh,
Reese: Has he even taken them like third?
Cokeley Brothers: don't know, dude, maybe a fourth. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like ah I agree with your sentiment that 197 was definitely not what 184 was.
Reese: It's always that. 97 has always been worse than 84. At
Reese: ah least for a long time.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe. Maybe.
Reese: That's why you see all these guys at 184 go up to 197 and then don't miss a beat. Oftentimes, in fact, they'll separate themselves.
Reese: People were like, oh, Bo Nickel? He's going up to 197? Like, wow, really? That's so impressive.
Cokeley Brothers: Colin Moore is going to decimate him. And then pinned him.
Reese: And he said, hey, little buddy, let me help you up.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm trying to think of a counter argument.
Cokeley Brothers: He carried him up. He put him, he cradled him in and they put him in a bassinet and put little binky in his mouth.
Reese: Yeah. He wrapped him up like a gordito.
Cokeley Brothers: He said, you're my son now, Colin.
Reese: Hey,
Cokeley Brothers: He said, you're my son now and you're going to help me win the Hodge. Sorry, Jason.
Reese: baby boy. Hey.
Cokeley Brothers: This year is going to me.
Cokeley Brothers: And then he tried doing that to Josh Hoke and Josh Hoke almost took his lights out.
Reese: twisting his dick off.
Cokeley Brothers: it was It was close.
Ryne: What do you do, Rhys?
Cokeley Brothers: Reese.
Ryne: One more time.
Cokeley Brothers: Reese, stop it.
Ryne: One more time, Rhys.
Reese: The old dick twist.
Cokeley Brothers: But
Ryne: Dick twist.
Cokeley Brothers: but i mean, I don't want to sleep on Mike Machiavelli. I don't want to sleep on a Jacob Cardenas. Because Cardenas, bar, that's that's an interesting matchup. I think plot, also very notable.
Cokeley Brothers: um And Aiden Sinclair, yeah, absolutely. But he also just wrestled 190 at Real American Freestyle, and 92 kilograms is 202.
Reese: He wrestled 92 at a Isn't that what he wrestled Bar last year at?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: And he It was What was it?
Cokeley Brothers: when When they wrestled at the World Team Trials?
Reese: was it Was that a best Was that a best of three series Or was that just one match?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, that was U20s two years ago.
Reese: Oh yeah But it was close It was He was winning And Bar had to come from behind To win
Cokeley Brothers: The last time they wrestled, let me...
Cokeley Brothers: Let me hang on. I got to get through an ad on YouTube to be able to watch the match.
Reese: He was. He was winning and the bar did some some stupid magic.
Cokeley Brothers: Nittany Lion magic.
Reese: Yeah, exactly. Some of that woo-woo Eastern magic.
Ryne: Woo-woo. Woo-woo.
Cokeley Brothers: All right, let's take a look here. ah It looks like Josh Barr wins this match 7-3 over Sinclair last year.
Cokeley Brothers: Aiden Sinclair was was winning.
Reese: a imagine Watch the Watch the match.
Cokeley Brothers: He was up. Hang on. Hang on. We're getting there. He was up three to one with a minute and a half left.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. And I'll tell you what, if they wrestle on some different mats, things could look a little different because these mats look like absolute slip and slides.
Ryne: Slip and slides.
Reese: Exactly. Aiden Sinclair, probably Rocco too, Max McAnally, AJ Ferrari, or Angelo Ferrari, all four of those dudes would give Josh Barr a much, much more difficult time if any of them went up to 197.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, Cody Merrill cody meel made it tough for Josh Barr.
Reese: Exactly. And he's not even he was a, he's a freshman who had, who had several losses. He lost to his God forsaken teammate.
Cokeley Brothers: died Those don't count. I don't count those, man. They don't matter to me.
Ryne: No, they count.
Reese: They matter.
Cokeley Brothers: They don't matter.
Reese: Who was it? Who was the wrestler, Sammy?
Ryne: They count.
Reese: Sammy?
Cokeley Brothers: That's why like it is such an outlier of results and there's such a there's such a caveat to it.
Reese: Okay, but you know who's not losing? You know who's not losing to their teammates?
Cokeley Brothers: Josh Barr.
Reese: No, any of the four dudes I just mentioned.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh. um Probably not.
Ryne: Mm-hmm. That's right. Take that.
Cokeley Brothers: No. I don't know, man. Russell's dad's not loading for me fast enough, so I don't have an argument.
Ryne: You never had one.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. You know what, Ryan? Just stick to looking at whatever's on your phone, man. yes you're kind of just like You're kind of just like a guy and in the argument. and You're like, yeah, punk, just in the back. just kind of
Ryne: And yeah,
Cokeley Brothers: Do you have anything meaningful to contribute, Ryan? Or are you just Mr. AdLibs?
Ryne: I do.
Cokeley Brothers: What?
Ryne: Never mind. I'm not going say it. I was going to say it.
Cokeley Brothers: Don't sleep on dust and plot.
Ryne: This going to be inappropriate.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: not going to say it now.
Cokeley Brothers: Good job. good job. ah
Ryne: I think I'm going with Mike Machiavelli, but I kind of want to i kind of want to take...
Cokeley Brothers: Give...
Ryne: No, I'm going with Josh Barr. don't know why I said Mike Machiavelli.
Cokeley Brothers: who want to say
Ryne: going with Josh Barr.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. I'll go Cardenas.
Reese: Anne Sinclair.
Cokeley Brothers: I love it. I love it.
Ryne: think it was the first i think it's first one where we all three had different champs.
Cokeley Brothers: Coward card revoked. 97 kilograms.
Reese: Who did you pick, Sammy?
Cokeley Brothers: Jacob Cardenas, Connor Mirasola, Jonathan Aiello, Justin Rademacher, Owen Brongart, shout out Kansas, Seth Nitzel, shout out Kansas, shout out Kansas, Sonny Sasso, Stephen Buchanan, Terrence Henry, shout out Fort Hayes State University, and that's about it.
Ryne: Jacob Cardenas.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: lot of Kansas representation in this weight.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: And it's a rough weight. I'm not going lie. Sitting in in the finals of final X is or in the final X is Kyle Snyder, which kind of tells you.
Reese: Stephen Buchanan?
Cokeley Brothers: oh You're right.
Ryne: yeah give Give me the Buchanan.
Cokeley Brothers: Now it's dude, it's not going to be super easy. He's got Jonathan Aiello. He's got Connor Mirasola. I'm not saying that he's next topic against those two guys.
Ryne: What are you saying then?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm just not.
Reese: I mean, he he'd beat he pretty soundly beat Josh Barr twice, and Josh Barr smoked. he's like He's way ah but like better than Connor Marisol at this point.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. Cause like, we're talking about freestyle versus folk style. Right.
Reese: Okay.
Ryne: Yes.
Reese: And Stephen Buchanan beat Asanya Zani.
Cokeley Brothers: And like Buchanan, Buchanan looks good. Yeah. He looks good in freestyle, but I am not ready to say that like Connor Mirasola isn't going to give him a really good look or that John J. Iello has had solid freestyle results.
Reese: JIL, yeah, I get that.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not going to say.
Reese: I can i can get behind that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, you know maybe Conor Marisol is ah a bit young and a bit green around the gills, but I don't know. Maybe for some reason, Sonny Sasso is going to go out there and just show us something.
Reese: He's too small.
Ryne: So who are you taking?
Cokeley Brothers: Me?
Cokeley Brothers: Give me the buke.
Ryne: Yeah, the Buchanan. Reese?
Cokeley Brothers: Buke?
Ryne: that's the first That's the first one where we all agreed on a champ, I believe.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. Well, let's wrap it up with another trio of agreement at 125 kilograms. There's nobody sitting in the finals of or and in final X. We've got Tony Cassiope.
Ryne: Wyatt Hendrickson is my pick.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Wyatt Hendrickson is also my pick. ah Tony Cassiope, Kobe Merrill, Cole Mirasola,
Reese: Thank you.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Daniel Kirkfleet Jr. Wrestling out of Spartan Combat RTC. Demetrius Thomas, Devin Dawson, ah ah Jacob Bullock, Jaron Smith, Jimmy Mullen, Jordan Wood,
Cokeley Brothers: Koi Hopke, Lucas Stoddard, Mason Paris, Trent Hilger, and yeah.
Ryne: Yeah, I see this as a Wyatt Hendrickson versus Mason Paris match finals.
Cokeley Brothers: That's, did you see how that went?
Reese: Count them out, Kirk.
Cokeley Brothers: Did you see how that went last time? Yeah.
Ryne: Yeah, they're one and one this year. It'll be all right.
Cokeley Brothers: It's, it's so, it's super weird to see like Gable Steveson is in RAF.
Ryne: Yes, I am counting out Kirk.
Cokeley Brothers: He's not wrestling at the open. It's weird to me, but it's, it's I mean, it's it's obvious like why it's the money situation, but
Ryne: Yeah.
Reese: yeah you don't Yeah, they don't pay you to wrestle with the other seven. In fact, you pay them.
Cokeley Brothers: you get a, you get a stipend if you win. You get an extra 800 bucks a month.
Reese: Yeah, but only if you win. You'd have
Cokeley Brothers: Well, if you, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Reese: You'd have to win.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah You're right.
Reese: You'd have to win.
Cokeley Brothers: You're right.
Ryne: You have to win.
Cokeley Brothers: You're right. You're You're right. You're right.
Reese: You'd have to win.
Cokeley Brothers: ah This is definitely a trio of names in Wyatt Hendrickson, Greg Kirkfleet, Mason Paris. I don't want to sleep on other guys in here like Trent Hilger, Demetrius Thomas, Kobe Merrill, Cole Mirasola, Jacob Bullock.
Ryne: What do you want?
Ryne: Who do you want to sleep on? Tell me that.
Cokeley Brothers: You know, the guy's pretty duff.
Ryne: You want to sleep on Jacob Bola?
Cokeley Brothers: I don't, I said, I don't want to sleep on these names, but like, I don't think, I think there's definite separation with maybe the exception of Trent Hilger.
Ryne: Hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: He's kind of showed some promise here and there and Jordan would, but yeah, give me why.
Ryne: Yeah, I know.
Cokeley Brothers: Duh. Hmm.
Ryne: I kind of wanted to take Wyatt and Jordan Wood, but I don't see any way for Jordan Wood to beat Mason Paris.
Cokeley Brothers: duh
Ryne: I like Jordan Wood too. Big Jordan Wood fan.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, and like Kirk is gonna be in there and that's a real tough name to beat.
Ryne: Yeah, that's true. I keep forgetting about Kirk.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, Kirk up in Ithaca now. Apparently things were not working out at Lehigh.
Cokeley Brothers: Whoa.
Ryne: He likes to move around.
Cokeley Brothers: What was that? No, apparently things actually weren't working out at Lehigh. That's okay. ah Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, so we're all in agreement there. Are we done? Is that it?
Cokeley Brothers: Do you want to come up with one Sesshi award to give out today?
Ryne: You don't want to I thought you want to talk about Raph. You don't want to.
Cokeley Brothers: You guys didn't even watch. What's the point?
Ryne: I mean, i saw some stuff.
Cokeley Brothers: What'd you see?
Ryne: I saw Real Woods looking real good against Ashnall and actually I was impressed with Ashnall too in that long No, I did not see that
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I was impressed with Ashnall. I was impressed with, ah did you see Johnny DeJulius against Kinchikis? Really? That was an eight to five match. It was six to five late and ah Kinchi got the takedown to ice it.
Ryne: Hmm
Cokeley Brothers: But um Jordan Oliver beat Mike Van Brill and they wanted to fight each other afterwards. Lance Palmer got his first win. beating Caden Henschel Jason Nolfe almost teched Joey Blaze 11-2.
Cokeley Brothers: I thought it was a tech.
Ryne: Oh, yeah, I saw some saw some clips from that one.
Cokeley Brothers: Why did I... Yeah, fun fun match, but Jason Nolfe looked like like competition ready. And then he think he said afterwards that he's back in wrestling.
Ryne: He said he's back. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know what that really means, but yeah.
Ryne: I think it means exactly what he said. i think Nolfe's a straightforward guy.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, why isn't where Why isn't he at the US Open?
Ryne: Give him some time to get to get back into it.
Cokeley Brothers: Riddle me that. Yeah, I get up who Who would you give
Ryne: I just did. I riddled you.
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Ryne: What do you think about all this business of Murab
Cokeley Brothers: five for five?
Ryne: ah
Cokeley Brothers: oh
Ryne: morab apparently and not wanting to wrestle Bo Bassett? What do you think of all that?
Cokeley Brothers: i I mean, whatever. i it's It is, from a production from a production perspective, it doesn't make sense.
Reese: What about you?
Ryne: It doesn't make sense for Murab career wise either.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. Like, you don't want to give, you don't want to...
Ryne: So his first, his first match is going to be against a high schooler. Who's a phenom and could, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Who's going to slaughter him?
Ryne: Who could, who's probably going to beat you. Like, yeah, no.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But then, but then Justin, Justin bash goes on Twitter. He's like, why not? Why not take the match against Bo Bassett? It's like, why, why weren't you doing the same thing?
Reese: Why not? Why not?
Cokeley Brothers: and Same thing to bone nickel, Justin.
Reese: It would stop.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm.
Reese: He wouldn't say Bo Bassett. He would say Bo Bassett.
Reese: He'd say Bao Bassett.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, it was on.
Ryne: You're you're all over this
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Dude, that's because I've been like, I've been listening to it a lot. I've like, like, listened to all of their podcasts. I've caught up on them the last week or so.
Cokeley Brothers: You're a fan.
Reese: and it's just killing me, dude. It's killing me Like, it's killing me.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, the both both both of them, Justin and Willie, neither of them say Brendan McCrone's last name the right way ever.
Reese: I'm out with,
Reese: dude, or Rob, Rob, do like, it's literally, it's Robodeau and they all acknowledge that it's Robodeau and then they'll go like two seconds later back to Robodeau. And then we'll be like, Rob, but and he'll be, he'll say Robodeau, I mean Rob, do, and then go right back to Robodeau.
Cokeley Brothers: I. Dude,
Reese: And Justin is like completely oblivious.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not going to lie.
Ryne: I respect it. I respect it.
Cokeley Brothers: i I mince it. I mince it a lot. And then I forget. And then I mince it again. like
Reese: Well, clearly I'm, I'm alone here this,
Ryne: Yeah, same. I'll keep mincing it.
Cokeley Brothers: No. i don't know. Maybe. I don't know.
Reese: But the the other the other the thing that just really gets it gets me is how they just shit all over the fans every single show. Every single show, Willie has to address the people who are in his comments on Twitter.
Cokeley Brothers: It's bad.
Reese: Like, he he hates those people.
Cokeley Brothers: They've been hostile lately. they've They've both been... he there's been a There's been a brewing...
Reese: And he's like, you that's why.
Ryne: I prefer that. I prefer that over the people who choose to like act like it doesn't happen.
Reese: Dude, I'm just like, it's such a like such a low-hanging fruit.
Cokeley Brothers: true.
Reese: and such a like
Ryne: Yeah, but I love it.
Reese: it's I think i find it kind of pathetic.
Ryne: Sometimes, sometimes the low hanging fruits are the best Reese.
Reese: Yeah, because it's easy.
Ryne: They're low hanging because They're low hanging, they're low hanging because they're so full of juices Reese.
Cokeley Brothers: Think like Jack Black.
Reese: Because it's nice and easy.
Reese: Juices, yeah.
Ryne: So juicy.
Reese: yeah
Ryne: Yeah.
Reese: Not willing to do the work to get the higher-up ones.
Ryne: Yeah. They're up there not low hanging because there's, they're less tasty Reese. Duh.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: Duh.
Reese: It's a terrible, ah it's a terrible allegory.
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Reese: Terrible.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, you guys are you guys you guys are going, I don't even know where with this. Um...
Cokeley Brothers: ah uh there's a brewing battle between willy sailor and the burners and
Reese: Yeah, there it is.
Ryne: Yeah.
Reese: It's, it's yeah.
Ryne: It's awesome.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah yeah it's it's a little uh yeah
Reese: and that Both of them both of them both of them are just like, oh, you guys you guys complain about this, and then turn around and you complain about that. Well, which is it? which you want As if there aren't like some people who complain about one side of the issue, and then some people who complain about, no, they've got to group them all together and act like everyone's complaining about...
Reese: both things. I don't know if I'm making sense, but it's just frustrating.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know, man.
Reese: It's frustrating that they, they just, the, the, it's like when you make a video of yourself, like retorting, like to another video, like of someone complaining about something you say, you're watching the person complain and then you pause their video and like, see, this is how this is, uh, stupid.
Reese: And you're stupid for your opinion. And I'm goingnna explain why right here.
Ryne: Yeah, there's this's people life those people are funny.
Reese: Those people suck, bro.
Ryne: Those people are kind of funny.
Reese: Because who are you argu who are you arguing with? You're not arguing with anybody. You're just recording yourself saying something. and It's just...
Cokeley Brothers: I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, mean, we're kind of, I don't know. ah I'll tell you what, they're kicking our ass when it comes to consistency and and in in shows and everything. So we need to be better about that.
Reese: That's true.
Reese: And they're old. mean, I
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, they, yeah, they're old.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: i mean i don't know how Bash
Cokeley Brothers: um What?
Reese: He's probably like 38 or so.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't know if he's in his forty s
Reese: But Willie, I mean, what's he like? forty He's like 40, low He's like 40.
Ryne: He's the same age as Brian Snyder.
Cokeley Brothers: I have no idea.
Ryne: If that tells you anything.
Cokeley Brothers: i have no idea how old Justin Bash is. Uh...
Cokeley Brothers: Uh...
Reese: Brian in 1958. No, was born in
Ryne: There you go. That's when Willie Saylor was born.
Cokeley Brothers: No, no, there's no, there's no way.
Reese: be. The The halo.
Reese: he's forty six that's all that's older than fighting be
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. he's He's staying youthful with that halo.
Reese: hey la
Cokeley Brothers: That halo. Okay. We got anything else?
Ryne: Sing it, Reese.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Ryne: Sing it, Reese.
Reese: I
Ryne: yeah Yes.
Cokeley Brothers: I was out worried about copyright for a second, but I'm not worried anymore.
Reese: ah love that song.
Cokeley Brothers: See, now forget it. Real American Freestyle is good.
Ryne: Go ahead.
Cokeley Brothers: i've I have flip-flopped on this so much. Cause like I was all on board and then I felt like I just disagreed with the ah direction and the matchups. And then I, then I like kind of had like a, like a Danny DeVito, Frank Reynolds, like, Oh my God, I get it moment.
Cokeley Brothers: And like, I understand what the point is and like why it is, it is beneficial for the sport without like highlighting the sport in the best way for somebody like me, which is fine.
Reese: Yeah, I think they're doing a fine job.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I think.
Reese: Even though I haven't watched a single one.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, i still ah the nomad, the the wrestling nomad put out that he believes that TKO will end up buying r RAF, which is interesting to me that like that's the plan.
Ryne: I appreciate the honesty, Reese.
Reese: What's TKO?
Cokeley Brothers: I think that's a. A fighting organization, I think.
Cokeley Brothers: and I'm assuming.
Reese: I've gotten to the point where, you know what, Nomads, um I no longer like care about Nomads takes anymore.
Ryne: Me neither. Me neither.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I don't know.
Ryne: They are here nor there. I'll be right back.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know like if that's the whole plan, if it's if it's like the exit strategy for RAF is to become this big thing that then just gets sold for a profit.
Ryne: Give me one second.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. I don't i just...
Reese: I do think it's, I'm like, how do they, I mean, they the the money will have, they cannot continue. Like it is not sustainable what they're doing.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, i think that i think they might be cruising right now. I'm not certain. There were some numbers leaked about like the money they made off of the the trading cards, which is very minor. But, ah dude, I mean, based on all the attention that they're getting, I think they're getting a lot of backing from Fox, just from how much the numbers must be.
Reese: Well, that would be good, I guess, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: bring Yeah, I think...
Reese: As long as I can keep doing that.
Cokeley Brothers: i think
Cokeley Brothers: I think they're, I think they're in a good position right now. Like, and things have really worked out for them with like the whole Sarukian Pouillis drama and just like leaning into that.
Reese: Yeah. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: And, and I said this the other day in a group because we were talking about claw wrestling. I was like, is that coming back? Like, are they doing and another, another year of that? And they are. And I was like, they need to get some, they had one, they had Caden Henschel, but they need to get some like social media, like content creators, people that will get like a a legitimate fan base.
Cokeley Brothers: on board with that and behind it. Cause like, that is how it works. That's how it works. Like Aiden Ross. I don't know if you guys know who that is. do you know who Aiden Ross is?
Ryne: Yeah, yes, familiar with his work.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. You guys do know you're, you're, you're okay. Um, he, he was talking to Sarukian about like making a competitor organization to RAF. I'm like, what?
Cokeley Brothers: I didn't realize that like, that was, it that was of interest to people.
Reese: Wait, Aiden Ross wanted to buy something?
Cokeley Brothers: No, he wanted to make a competitive, like an organization, a league, a wrestling league that would be in competition with RAF.
Reese: Yeah, I mean, I would never guess that dude would care.
Cokeley Brothers: um I don't know if it was just him.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, I mean, I think he saw how... Dude, like, I don't think it registers to us just how how much attention...
Reese: That Sarukian dude is obviously like a huge, huge star.
Cokeley Brothers: He's everywhere.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: He's everywhere, dude.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Reese: Which is bizarre to me.
Ryne: He's riding the wave.
Cokeley Brothers: People... Well, I mean, where what wave?
Ryne: name's hot right now, you know.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh yeah.
Ryne: So he's everywhere.
Cokeley Brothers: and And he's like on all the, the, the streaming platform, like he's on, he's on kick with like all of those streamers.
Reese: How did he get there?
Ryne: UFC.
Reese: How did a Persian dude...
Ryne: you you have u f c
Reese: Oh, he's he's just he's in that group with the with all those streamers.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I don't know, but I mean, he's also got, he's got 5 million Instagram followers.
Reese: That's what i'm saying. How did he do that? Well, I guess there are a lot of ah Iranians, Persian people on Instagram.
Cokeley Brothers: it's That's, that's,
Ryne: Very nice.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but he's not from there.
Reese: The whites like them too.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah. i don't know. I don't know what his following base looks like. I could have sworn he was at like three something, three point something million like two months ago. And if if he was and he's now at five, that's insane.
Reese: That's pretty cool.
Cokeley Brothers: That's that's messed up.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, imagine imagine like in a couple of months you gain a million followers. And it's just like you're numb.
Reese: Yeah, that would be pretty intense.
Cokeley Brothers: You're just you're you're numb to like metrics. It just doesn't matter.
Reese: Are you numb though? Or are you like, some days you wake up and you're like, can barely breathe.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, I don't know. I see this guy's stuff. I see Armand stuff. He doesn't look like he cares about anything. I can't tell. I can't tell what matters to him.
Reese: Oh, you think there's not much going on up there upstairs?
Cokeley Brothers: No, I don't, dude, I don't know. I don't know if he's just a, just a stone wall. I don't know, man, but well, at least he at least doesn't look, he looks like he doesn't get like worked up except for that one time where he tried to kill a man on, on Fox television.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, there was that.
Reese: have killed Uriah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but that would have been, yeah, that wouldn't have been intentional at least.
Reese: That looked pretty intentional to me.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think he was really like, I'm going to drive you off the mat and plant you into the ground so hard that you turn into paste.
Ryne: It was played out.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that was definitely.
Reese: think they had a ah ah crash pad.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that they're actually, they really are incorporating WWE w elements into it now. That would upset me. Hey, where do you think Myers-Caprio is going up? We haven't talked about any transfer portal. We haven't talked about any transfer portal stuff, man.
Ryne: Nebraska.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, maybe. But ah how does that work? Because apparently he doesn't want a red shirt, but he also says he can he can just make 149. I don't know if I believe that. I don't know if I believe that.
Cokeley Brothers: Because I was told that he was he was supposed to wrestle the Southern Scuffle, and then he was dying making weight, and so they pulled him out.
Reese: He hit making 149.
Cokeley Brothers: He ain't 149, and he ain't red shirting, so what's Trelly going to do?
Ryne: He might red shirt. Maybe Trelly goes back up to 65.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, then what does LJ Roushaw do?
Ryne: Hangs out.
Cokeley Brothers: That sucks. LJ's pretty f freaking good.
Reese: That's stupid. don't They don't need Myers-Pyro. They just got Vincent Robinson.
Ryne: Maybe LJ goes up to 74 and Minto goes to 84.
Cokeley Brothers: Right, like...
Ryne: Minto goes up to 84.
Cokeley Brothers: Chris Minto. No.
Ryne: meno goes up to eighty eighty four
Cokeley Brothers: No. Minto wants to stay at 174, which honestly makes sense.
Reese: I guess. He looks giant, but I guess...
Cokeley Brothers: Hey. Hey. um this eligibility situation.
Cokeley Brothers: What do you think about it? Do you know what it is?
Ryne: So my question is,
Cokeley Brothers: Your question is going to be about junior college.
Ryne: no So would Bo Bassett's eligibility have started this year?
Cokeley Brothers: and So I think the like,
Ryne: Because it says your clock starts whenever you graduate high school or whenever you turn 19, whichever happens first.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, so i think I think it's like your clock starts as in the following year is your first year no matter what.
Ryne: So is that trying
Cokeley Brothers: So let me let me read this.
Ryne: Well, so that's my, wouldn't that this have been a year of eligibility for Bo if this rule was in place last year?
Cokeley Brothers: let me
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Ryne: Would this have been a year of eligibility for Bo?
Cokeley Brothers: lit Let me... let me read what I'm seeing. The division one cabinet on Tuesday adopted a slate of changes to pre-enrollment eligibility rules, effective immediately for prospects enrolling in college during the 2026, 27 academic year. So this is like, this is going through the proposal pipeline of like changes to how the NCAA works.
Cokeley Brothers: Division one is currently undergoing an extensive review of all eligibility rules to determine what makes the most sense in the current era of college sports. And These changes are the first phase of that process and are intended to provide immediate clarity for schools as they finalize rosters for the upcoming academic year. And the cabinet will continue its work on broader eligibility discussions in the coming months.
Cokeley Brothers: that that ah ah Prospects will now be required to withdraw from opt-in professional league drafts, including the NBA draft by legislated deadlines. dadada da Prospects will now be permitted to accept prize money in their respective sports without impacting eligibility.
Cokeley Brothers: That's interesting.
Ryne: Yeah, I mean, that's that's been a role since NIL.
Cokeley Brothers: Um,
Cokeley Brothers: The cabinet would also the cabinetna also discussed a concept which, if eventually proposed and adopted, would adjust period of eligibility rules in Division I. In its current form, the concept explores eliminating seasons of competition and instead implementing an age-based model that allows student-athletes to be eligible for Division I competition for a window of five years, starting the academic year immediately after After a prospective students at student athletes, high school graduation or 19th birthday, whichever occurs first. So if Bo Bassett turned 19 this academic year, his first year would be the following year.
Ryne: Okay
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. So I think Bo Bassett would be unaffected.
Ryne: So Then the turning 19 thing is like almost Nil It doesn't even It doesn't make sense Anthony Andrew Mandia graduated high school at 19 What do you mean?
Cokeley Brothers: Well, think about an Anthony Etchamendia.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, it's just like we're putting a hard cap on he
Ryne: It would be
Cokeley Brothers: he didn't graduate high school at 19.
Ryne: How Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: He's 20. Dude, he great he he graduated. His first season of competition was 2020-21. He was born the same year as me.
Cokeley Brothers: Basically, you have until the age of 24 to finish out from 19 to 24 or 18 to 23 or maybe even 17 to 22 to wrestle to do your five years of college sports.
Cokeley Brothers: um And the only exceptions to that are going to be military service, maternal leave or religious missions. So Brock Hardy would still be good to go.
Ryne: So would your clock pause then for any of those reasons? Like if you get pregnant during your, let's say you're junior your junior year, your third season, you get pregnant or right before your third season, you you get pregnant and then you come back the next year.
Ryne: you still get that year back plus the other two?
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know I don't know. Well, so this is there are possible exceptions considered under that model, so I don't know if they've got the full details fleshed out.
Ryne: Do you see what I'm saying?
Cokeley Brothers: ah The cabinet did not take a formal position on the topic or the concept itself, but did support NCAA staff continuing to discuss the idea with other stakeholders to gather additional feedback. So it actually doesn't sound like they they are seriously moving forward with this, but it's interesting to see that a year ago or a year and change ago, we heard from the NCAA that they will not in the foreseeable future look at a five four five ah model and here we are back at the at the discussion table talking about it.
Cokeley Brothers: So I'm assuming that they are trying to find a way to close the Pandora's box of eligibility and NIL nightmarish nonsense that they opened. So that's my expectation.
Reese: Thank you.
Ryne: whatever they're just gonna keep getting their pants suit off
Cokeley Brothers: But if they do this, won't that tamper things at least?
Ryne: I don't know there's always gonna be people that are fight that are gonna fight it temper you're right I don't know I thought I didn't think there's any way Diego Pavia was getting his eligibility back but
Cokeley Brothers: Tamper?
Cokeley Brothers: temper things um but how do you fight this don't i think it's a good thing i think it i think it yeah yeah that's true that's true um
Ryne: Look at us now.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know, man. I think they got to do something with everything that's happening. Like. You got to it. It feels like there are no more guardrails.
Cokeley Brothers: So you got to have something. And right now you have nothing.
Cokeley Brothers: That's what I think.
Cokeley Brothers: So I'm down for them to try anything. And so should you.
Cokeley Brothers: Try anything once.
Reese: I'll try it if anything once.
Cokeley Brothers: Try anything once. One time. You ain't getting too out of me if I don't like it
Reese: Trick me. Fool me again. fool me again.
Cokeley Brothers: it. I'm going to rain a chopper on you.
Ryne: That's awesome.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, that was terrible. went to a tournament in Alabama. i i went to a ah tournament in alabama ah this weekend and I drove by a house. The guy was so rich. He had a helicopter right by his house.
Ryne: awesome
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, I was like, I want that. We need to make this podcast pop off so I can embellish all of the money and have that.
Ryne: You want, but that's what you want. You want a helicopter. If you could have all of the things you want a helicopter. Listen, listen, listen, we're going to.
Cokeley Brothers: I want enough money to have what the guy had, which was a helicopter.
Reese: You're trying to get that $100 million dollar deal on Spotify, huh?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm trying to get I'm trying to get barstool to buy us.
Ryne: That'd be cool.
Cokeley Brothers: But tell you what, they ain't going by us if we're uploading once a month.
Ryne: Hey, listen, listen. If we get enough money for a helicopter, we're not buying a helicopter, all right?
Cokeley Brothers: What's up?
Ryne: Reese and I will outvote you here, okay? And outrank you, all right? We're putting a moat around mom's house, okay? A lazy river.
Cokeley Brothers: have you looked Have you looked at the LLC paperwork?
Ryne: We want a lazy river around mom's house. And we've wanted up and we've wanted we've wanted a lazy river around mom's house for as long as we can remember.
Cokeley Brothers: have you
Cokeley Brothers: Is it a moat or a lazy river?
Ryne: Reese, back here.
Cokeley Brothers: You're going to have to be very specific with your paperwork.
Ryne: Well, they're technically they're both. It's the same, you know, a lazy river is technically a lazy river is technically a moat.
Cokeley Brothers: It's lazy mode.
Reese: How do they get the... How do they get it to... How would we get it to go around, though?
Cokeley Brothers: Jets.
Ryne: She just, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: Push the current with jets.
Cokeley Brothers: What do you mean? Like what? How else would it go?
Reese: sounds infinitely more expensive than a moat.
Cokeley Brothers: well one of them's just digging a hole. The other one's digging a hole and putting in jets.
Reese: Yeah. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah let's buy the new york jets
Ryne: I want the jets.
Reese: Please, like the one with with the one with the jets.
Ryne: Yeah, give me that one.
Reese: With that one. What about a moat with snakes and gators?
Ryne: Nope.
Cokeley Brothers: well they can't can't be a lazy river then i mean it could be it's just deadly it's a deadly river so okay uh look guys
Ryne: That'd be a deadly river.
Reese: That's cool, too.
Reese: Until
Ryne: And you're not allowed to fight back because it's a deadly lazy river. Fighting back is not lazy.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, you got to sit there and take it. we We are making a promise to you listeners to you five faithful listeners and not a wrestler.
Cokeley Brothers: You're one of them. So be feel special. ah
Ryne: I'm not making ah any promises.
Cokeley Brothers: We will be more consistent after we get run into his new house.
Ryne: I'm about to move.
Cokeley Brothers: After we get run into his new house, we will be more consistent, I promise.
Ryne: So May, starting in May, you'll see, you'll see improvements, improvements in consistency.
Cokeley Brothers: Starting in May, we have 11 days to be.
Ryne: all right. That doesn't mean we're going to be popping off five, six, seven episodes a month. Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: that again.
Ryne: You're going to,
Ryne: Seven, eight, nine episodes. i was like, wait, what did i say?
Ryne: I, you know, we're going to, it's going gradual. It's going gradual.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, nerd.
Ryne: All right.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, and maybe we'll do sessions.
Ryne: Wiener.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. We gotta, we gotta work on that.
Reese: We have to do SESHEs, it's non-negotiable.
Cokeley Brothers: Cause I don't, I don't remember
Ryne: Oh, if we're not doing sessions. Yeah. If we're not doing sessions, if the next episode isn't a sessions episode, I won't be here. Period.
Reese: did i Do we have a do we have a yeah category for best transfer?
Cokeley Brothers: any
Reese: Is that a category?
Cokeley Brothers: our, our here, let's put the categories out there now. And if you're still listening, God bless your soul, uh, the categories and give us your input.
Reese: Is this live? Oh, no.
Cokeley Brothers: No, I'm just saying if they're in it in twenty an hour and 20 minutes still into this, ah the categories are Mr.
Ryne: transfer. What would you call that, Reese?
Cokeley Brothers: Clutch, The 11th Man, Red Hot Red Shirt, Junkyard Dog, Breakout Performer of the Year, Coach of the Year, Freshman of the Year, Wrestler of the Year.
Reese: Transfer of the year.
Ryne: Transfer of the year. Jinx. Give me a Coke, bitch.
Cokeley Brothers: You want to add that?
Reese: i said it way before you, buddy.
Cokeley Brothers: you want to You want to add that one?
Ryne: I jinxed you. What?
Cokeley Brothers: Do you know who Transfer of the Year would be?
Reese: We didn't say it at the same time.
Ryne: We definitely said it at the same time.
Reese: No, we didn't.
Ryne: Yes, we did.
Reese: There's no way to prove that.
Ryne: Yes, we did. Sammy.
Ryne: Didn't we say it at the same time?
Reese: Did we say that at the same time?
Cokeley Brothers: ah You guys understand that there's a desync between like what you say and what you hear versus what the person said and what they heard at the same time and it just, it's all, well, here's the deal.
Ryne: Well, it was sync. It was synced up for me. It was perfect synced up.
Cokeley Brothers: Here's the deal. um It wasn't for me. ah
Reese: Me neither.
Ryne: What did you call it again though?
Cokeley Brothers: Desync?
Ryne: Yeah. De-sync these nuts in your mouth.
Cokeley Brothers: Desync these nuts? Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Reese. Do you know who trans...
Ryne: Reese knew exactly where I was going.
Cokeley Brothers: when you say transfer of the year, you're just talking about who transferred from last year to this year. Like who transferred from a team last year? this year And...
Ryne: Most impactful transfer.
Reese: It's not that complicated.
Ryne: Most impactful transfer.
Cokeley Brothers: Brocco Welsh.
Ryne: Yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but that sucks. That just sucks. I hate that. Let's do somebody else.
Reese: It doesn't have to be Rockwell Welsh, could be Chance Lamour.
Ryne: Who would you?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: Well, what could you do? Jacks Forrest?
Cokeley Brothers: No, he's not a transfer.
Ryne: Technically, he transferred from high school.
Cokeley Brothers: He's not. nobody nobody ever
Ryne: Tech transferred from Bishop McCourt High School in the middle of the year to Oklahoma State.
Cokeley Brothers: ever Nobody ever said, Jacks Forrest transfers from high school to college. No, they said that he – Here, let me let me give you the 11 All-Americans who transferred from from school last year to this year.
Reese: We could do Chance Lamour, we could do Lachlan McNeil.
Ryne: I'm saying it right now. Could do off one.
Cokeley Brothers: that It was Jory Volk, laughland McNeil, Chance Lamer. ah Well, kids who AA'd this year that transferred from a school last year. Jory Volk, McNeil, Chance Lamer, Casey Swiderski, Bryce Heppner, Rocco Welsh, Zach Ryder, Tega Dali, AJ Ferrari, David Zuba, Christian Carroll.
Reese: Yeah.
Reese: All right. Those are some good candidates.
Cokeley Brothers: wait Heavyweight had four.
Ryne: I kind of want to go Bryce Heppner.
Reese: That's pretty good.
Reese: Yeah. Happener's not bad. It doesn't have to be the highest placing person.
Ryne: nine den Denied tonight the gurney at Nationals. Aura.
Cokeley Brothers: Denied the gurney. He said, uh-uh.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I got a podium to catch.
Ryne: Get that shit out of here.
Reese: You think i'm going to let this dude get another bonus win?
Ryne: I haven't given up a take.
Reese: No.
Ryne: I haven't given up a takedown all tournament. You think I'm about to get taken down by this gurney?
Reese: Think about the the itcation movie the implications of him turning away the gurney.
Ryne: The fuck out of here. The fuck out of
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Reese: He prevented Mitchell Messenbrink from going 100%
Ryne: here. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: bonus.
Ryne: Yeah.
Reese: percent voters
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: That's pretty, you know what you guys are, you guys are.
Ryne: Sneak peek at the, sneak peek at the sessions, guys.
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Ryne: Transfer of the year, Bryce Heppner.
Reese: And guess what?
Cokeley Brothers: What are we doing?
Reese: He's going to be transferring again. he could We should give it to him this year. Maybe he could be a two-timer.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude,
Ryne: Leaving again?
Cokeley Brothers: first of all, how does he have another year?
Ryne: Why is he leaving?
Cokeley Brothers: And second of all, why is he leaving? Why is he leaving?
Reese: I don't know. This is all... I got all this from his post-tournament interview.
Cokeley Brothers: What is he in the portal?
Ryne: Money hungry motherfuckers.
Reese: No, he...
Ryne: That's
Reese: Yeah, he's like... He was like, my...
Ryne: what it is.
Reese: he was like my
Ryne: It's all about.
Reese: maya
Ryne: I want to know what my market value is. murmur
Cokeley Brothers: ah April 1st, he said, Chapel Hill, are we ready for one more year?
Reese: Look at that. Look at...
Cokeley Brothers: Run it back. Let's party.
Ryne: Okay, good. I like that post.
Cokeley Brothers: So, yeah.
Reese: Sounds like he's not leaving.
Ryne: All right. I rescind everything. I rescind everything I just said.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, you know what Bryce Hefner needs to do? needs to transfer out of wrestling and get into a modeling agency. This dude's handsome as hell for being in the sport.
Ryne: Handsome Hepna.
Cokeley Brothers: this guy is This guy, yeah, I mean...
Reese: lot handsome brights is out there.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. um
Ryne: Do you think that's why Mitchell couldn't get the bonus? He was too distracted by the handsomeness.
Cokeley Brothers: just He was like, I'm enamored. I'm enamored.
Reese: He's blinding.
Ryne: So handsome.
Cokeley Brothers: Can I? Yeah. you know what i was You know what I said? I said Mitchell Mesenbrink isn't wrestling at the U.S.
Reese: On Twitter?
Cokeley Brothers: Open. He's too focused on his singing career.
Ryne: Bravo.
Reese: twitter
Ryne: Did that one make you chuckle, Sammy?
Cokeley Brothers: It made me chuckle.
Ryne: I bet it did. I bet you told it to Katie too to see if she'd laugh and she looked at you like, you're an idiot.
Cokeley Brothers: No, I don't say things like that to Katie because she'd be like, who's Mitchell Mesenbrink?
Ryne: No.
Ryne: Your wife doesn't know who Mitchell Messenbrink is.
Cokeley Brothers: She'd be like, can you share me with, can you share any of his music with me?
Reese: Hey, watch the video I sent on Instagram.
Ryne: still get jealous.
Cokeley Brothers: um All right, gang, we're going to wrap it up and get out of here. I guess we're doing session. She's next episode. Maybe that'll be later this week.
Ryne: What are you wrapping up?
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. We're wrapping up. We're getting out of here.
Reese: Bye.
Cokeley Brothers: Bye-bye. Have a good time. Goodbye.
