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NCAA Bracket Breakdown (165-285) - Session 101
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We breakdown the upper weights just in time for the big dance! Tune in to see who we think can get it done, what paths our favorite guys will have, and where we think your wrestlers end up!
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Introduction to NCAA Wrestling Championships Preview
00:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back to another episode of the Bar In Session, everybody. This is part two of our NCAA Wrestling Championships preview. On the previous episode, we looked at the first five weights, 125 through 157, and today we are going to be looking at the upper weights, 165 through 285.
00:00:18
Cokeley Brothers
Gentlemen, how do we feel?
00:00:22
Reese
Now prepared.
00:00:27
Cokeley Brothers
how are you?
00:00:29
Ryne
I'm good. How are you, Sammy?
00:00:32
Cokeley Brothers
I'm doing fine. Thank you for asking. And ah
00:00:37
Cokeley Brothers
i think I think I'm going to upset some people with these with these picks. And I mean, I guess maybe that's kind of the point. But look, it's I don't mean to do it on purpose.
00:00:45
Reese
Thank you.
Controversial Predictions and Personal Biases
00:00:48
Cokeley Brothers
I mentioned this at the start of the last episode. My picks are... heavily biased, ah either towards guys that i personally know and I wanna see succeed or guys that I just am a fan of and I want to see, I want to envision their highest success.
00:01:08
Cokeley Brothers
So, with that out of the way,
00:01:12
Ryne
Are we just doing top two? Are we just picking our finalists?
00:01:16
Cokeley Brothers
kinda walk through the notable things of my bracket.
00:01:22
Ryne
Oh, well, I haven't even filled them out. I'm just looking. I'm i'm going off the cuff here.
00:01:26
Cokeley Brothers
That's totally fine. I've got mine filled out and I can give you plenty of insight, I guess, into my process.
00:01:40
Cokeley Brothers
um First and foremost, we we do have an Indiana Hoosier in here, Tyler Lillard at 165 pounds if we want to get started. ah And I have him making a run to the semis.
00:01:55
Cokeley Brothers
he He has the seven seed Max butno Brignola right off the bat. ah I think with with as good as Tyler Lillard has shown himself to be in the past, not always this good, but his peak capability, I think he's better than than Max Brignola.
00:02:00
Ryne
Thank
00:02:12
Cokeley Brothers
I think he is capable of beating a Will Denny in the quarters. and Hell, are in the round in the round of 16, or second round of of the frontside, I even think that he can beat a guy like Joey Blaze.
00:02:16
Reese
Thank
00:02:24
Cokeley Brothers
he He kept the match very, very close in the duel.
00:02:25
Reese
you.
00:02:28
Cokeley Brothers
It was a a tight loss at Big Tens. I think if he manages it manages to make it to the quarters, I think he can get a win over Joey Blaze and put himself in the semis.
00:02:39
Ryne
He's got a terrible matchup first round.
00:02:43
Cokeley Brothers
Brignola?
00:02:44
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:02:45
Cokeley Brothers
What's so terrible about it?
00:02:47
Ryne
I just think Brignola kind of a bad matchup. I think he wrestles a style that doesn't favor young Tyler.
00:02:58
Cokeley Brothers
i don't I don't really know enough about the stylistic matchup um with Brignola. I just know that like from the matches, he's gritty, but i don't think his offense is...
00:03:06
Reese
He tough, he gritty.
00:03:16
Cokeley Brothers
is ah I don't think that there's like a high high level to it that that makes me think, oh yeah, he's going to shoot and score on Tyler Lillard. Because Lillard is tricky to score on whenever he's whenever he's feeling himself.
00:03:31
Cokeley Brothers
um Outside of that, Caliendo and Mezenbrink are making the finals, and in Mitchell Mezenbrink is winning
Underdogs and Upset Alerts
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Cokeley Brothers
this bracket. I don't think there's any reason to...
00:03:41
Reese
Thank you.
00:03:42
Cokeley Brothers
assume otherwise. I think Ladarian Lockett gets his, uh, revenge over Nico Ruiz in the quarters, falls to mezzanbrink in the semis, comes out the back for third place.
00:03:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:03:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, there's, there's a good number of seeds, like 14 and below
00:04:02
Reese
Thank you.
00:04:05
Cokeley Brothers
that are very solid, very greedy guys. Andrew Barbosa from Rutgers, who obviously he just showed that he can beat somebody like Joey Blaze. um Even Noah Mulvaney. That's noel Mulvaney, ah Andrew Barbosa. That's a very good first round matchup.
00:04:20
Cokeley Brothers
ah Andrew Sparks and Ty Whalen. Whalen is from Princeton. Probably a little under the radar. Doesn't have like the best record so far this year, but up at this weight, he's been tough at 49 and 57.
00:04:32
Cokeley Brothers
I think he'll be pretty good at 65. See what he can do. um Patty Gallagher, Braden Skolls, a 16-17 matchup. That's a great first round matchup. um So definitely, even conor Connor Uten, this is a guy who I think, if you're looking for somebody to find their way onto the podium, who is in like almost the bottom half of the seeds, especially with his draw, I think it's something that's very possible.
00:04:59
Cokeley Brothers
He's super tough.
00:05:02
Ryne
Yeah, and they were in the Cyclone Faithful, they were very
00:05:09
Ryne
optimistic about him this year.
00:05:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, I even mentioned it in my CyHawk preview. I was like, I think this guy could beat Michael Caliendo. So maybe a little too optimistic, but... ah
00:05:22
Ryne
Does Reese know he's muted?
00:05:24
Reese
No, I don't. I'm concerned. Like,
00:05:28
Cokeley Brothers
About what?
00:05:30
Reese
I can barely hear this guy over here. Barely.
00:05:34
Cokeley Brothers
No, I can hear i can i can hear Ryan, and and I'll take care of it in post.
00:05:37
Reese
So you think people will be able to hear it?
00:05:38
Cokeley Brothers
It's going okay.
00:05:39
Reese
Okay. It's probably just because I have no headphones.
00:05:40
Cokeley Brothers
I hope so.
00:05:43
Cokeley Brothers
Doesn't help.
00:05:45
Reese
Yeah.
00:05:48
Ryne
Dumb bitch.
The Gambling Aspect of Wrestling
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Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:05:49
Reese
Should plug it?
00:05:49
Cokeley Brothers
are you are you Are you worried about anything in the bracket, Rhys?
00:05:53
Ryne
Did you, did you hear that Reese?
00:05:54
Reese
I like some of these matchups in the round of 24 on the backside, in my bracket at least.
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Cokeley Brothers
i don't I don't think he heard it.
00:06:01
Reese
I got Gallagher-Denny. Who
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Cokeley Brothers
ah
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Reese
wins that match?
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Cokeley Brothers
You have Gallagher Denny.
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Reese
Yeah, man, that's a good...
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Cokeley Brothers
Oh, so you have you have Gallagher losing or yeah you have
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Reese
Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
gallagher losing first round, and then Will will Denny losing to Bergnola.
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Reese
Yeah.
00:06:27
Reese
Yeah.
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Cokeley Brothers
um
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Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. and then the And then that would be in the round of...
00:06:35
Reese
Araujo and Waylon. That's another good one.
00:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i have that. I have a Raja winning that.
00:06:41
Reese
mean, I pick Araujo probably. Waylon hasn't had that spectacular of a year.
00:06:49
Cokeley Brothers
No, I think we'll see some, we'll see some flashes, but not necessarily like a complete performance from him. ah
00:06:56
Reese
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:58
Cokeley Brothers
EJ Parko, another guy who's kind of had to bump up to find his way onto the, the ah starting lineup for Stanford and made managed to find himself at the national tournament. He could, he could disrupt some things, maybe not like take out a ah big name, but he's tough.
00:07:10
Reese
Yeah, he's good.
00:07:15
Cokeley Brothers
So this will be a,
00:07:16
Reese
Yeah, him and his little... I got like him like where he he could end up in the round 24 against Mulvaney. and if he and he could totally beat Mulvaney. And if he beats Mulvaney, he's in the round 12. I guess that's the round of 16, isn't it? Yeah, that's round of 16.
00:07:34
Reese
um And then in the round of 12, he would have the loser of...
00:07:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:38
Reese
what that will what I have as Brignola or Blaze, which would probably be Brignola. I think Blaze is going to make the semis, honestly.
00:07:44
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:07:47
Reese
like i I don't think it's going to be. i feel pretty confident in Messenbrink, Lockett, Caliendo, Blaze. I feel pretty confident in that quad or that group of four.
00:07:57
Cokeley Brothers
Speaking of.
00:08:00
Cokeley Brothers
Speaking of of of lower seeds and and tough quads, ah Matt Olgin at the 22 seed. this is This is a guy who in the past, what he had Shane Griffith's number, right?
00:08:15
Ryne
Yeah, he beat him once, I think.
00:08:16
Reese
I looked up his WrestleStat, Matt Holgien's.
00:08:20
Cokeley Brothers
It's
00:08:20
Reese
Guess what year this is for him?
00:08:23
Cokeley Brothers
like sixth.
00:08:27
Cokeley Brothers
It's his seventh year.
00:08:27
Reese
Seven.
00:08:28
Ryne
Nice.
00:08:29
Reese
This is his seventh year.
00:08:31
Ryne
Nice.
00:08:31
Cokeley Brothers
yeah He's one of those one of those COVID kids. um so like that this This little group of four, Ryder Downey...
00:08:36
Reese
So I have him going owen too
00:08:40
Cokeley Brothers
yeah i mean Yeah, because this group of four is Ryder Downey, Matt Olguin, EJ, Parco, LJ, Raja. That is a tough group of four right there. ah so I also have them going 0-2.
00:08:50
Reese
Yeah, like young guys too. That's how I was. Yeah.
00:08:55
Reese
I mean, Parco is a freshman, right?
00:08:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Pretty sure. Redshirt freshman.
00:09:03
Ryne
Yeah, because him and his brother could have wrestled at the Iowa-Stanford duel last year.
00:09:08
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:09:09
Reese
Do we think like Blaze, if Blaze and Massenbrink meet in the finals, do we think that's a match at all?
00:09:18
Cokeley Brothers
No. i don't think I don't think there's anything. I don't think anybody has the skill set
Weight Class 174 Analysis
00:09:27
Cokeley Brothers
to manage Mitchell Mesenbrink.
00:09:31
Reese
Yeah. Maybe not.
00:09:33
Cokeley Brothers
and I'm pretty set on that.
00:09:33
Reese
How did he do it against Tyler Kasach, man? How did he do it? Kasach looked unbeatable last year.
00:09:41
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:09:43
Reese
Then he did lose to Antrell.
00:09:44
Cokeley Brothers
That's it
00:09:45
Reese
Antrell was, i mean, really good too, but that's a bad matchup for Blaise, I would say.
00:09:49
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:09:52
Cokeley Brothers
it. Yeah. I just think the i just think the the the raw pace that Mezenbrink puts out there, it it ah along with his diverse offensive skill set, yeah.
00:09:59
Reese
it' It's kind of a...
00:10:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:10:06
Reese
It's a Forrest Blaze situation, if you ask me.
00:10:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but is...
00:10:14
Reese
Forrest Marcus Blaze. Yeah.
00:10:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, is... Two things. I think Mitchell is a little more inside the box with his ah with what he does.
00:10:28
Cokeley Brothers
ah And I don't think Joey Blaze is quite as good as keeping things locked down as Marcus.
00:10:38
Reese
Maybe.
00:10:40
Cokeley Brothers
But I would love to see the matchup.
00:10:40
Reese
He shut Caliendo down.
00:10:42
Cokeley Brothers
I would love to see the matchup.
00:10:44
Reese
He shuts down pretty much everybody he wrestles.
00:10:45
Ryne
Amen.
00:10:48
Cokeley Brothers
yeah yeah Yeah, I mean, I guess he just didn't know that, you know, whenever you have somebody in a front headlock, you can spin like a top on top of them and get the takedown.
00:10:56
Reese
Yeah. And that dude's good.
00:10:57
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:10:58
Reese
Barbosa's good. Barbosa's solid dude.
00:11:01
Cokeley Brothers
He's tough, but.
00:11:03
Reese
He's a freshman, right?
00:11:06
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's a freshman, yeah.
00:11:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:11:12
Reese
Captain Barbossa.
00:11:15
Cokeley Brothers
Uh-huh. All right. Closing thoughts on 165.
00:11:23
Reese
I have none other than next topic.
00:11:24
Cokeley Brothers
Anything from our ghost?
00:11:26
Ryne
Closing time.
00:11:29
Cokeley Brothers
Closing time.
00:11:31
Ryne
Wait, wait, wait.
00:11:31
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Yeah, it is
00:11:32
Ryne
Before I move on, can I give my picks for the first five weight classes? Just the champs. Just the champs.
00:11:38
Cokeley Brothers
Let's hear your five champs, ghost.
00:11:41
Ryne
I've got Liladol. And then I'm going.
00:11:48
Ryne
See, this one's tricky. I'm going to go.
00:11:53
Cokeley Brothers
Some say the trickiest.
00:11:56
Ryne
I'm going to go forest. I know. I know. Right.
00:12:01
Cokeley Brothers
Coward.
00:12:03
Ryne
Mendez.
00:12:07
Ryne
Van. I feel like Vanessa is going to find a way to choke, but maybe he won't. I'll go Vanessa and ah I'm going to go.
00:12:22
Ryne
I'll go. Meyer Shapiro.
00:12:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, my five to recap from yesterday are Spratly, Forrest, Mendez, Joy, Shapiro.
00:12:35
Cokeley Brothers
And Jacob Moran makes the finals too.
00:12:39
Cokeley Brothers
You're muted, Reese.
00:12:46
Cokeley Brothers
You're muted.
00:12:49
Reese
I still don't have any AAs. None whatsoever.
00:12:53
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:12:54
Reese
That's what I unmuted myself to tell you guys. I have still yet to make my picks.
00:12:57
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what you said. Ah, well, that's okay.
00:13:04
Reese
I was just following following up on what Ryan was saying.
00:13:04
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, right. And I, I kind of assumed.
00:13:10
Reese
Yeah. Maybe someday.
00:13:16
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, i don't have too much outside the outside the box here. um Honestly, when I was getting ready to look at these before we started recording, because we got a Hoosier at 174, Derek Gilcher, I did not think I found a way to get him onto the podium. And I am re-looking at the path that I have given to him.
00:13:36
Cokeley Brothers
And it's not... It's it's it's ridiculous. ah This is probably the most I've reached... No. So far, this is the most I've reached to be able to do get a Hoosier on the podium. ah But let's just walk through it.
00:13:54
Cokeley Brothers
Derek Gilcher is the 26 seed. He's got the seven seed camp. Steed big 12 champ round one. He loses that match. He loses that matchup and that's okay. Cause we are, we're, we're backside. We're road warriors.
00:14:07
Cokeley Brothers
We love the backside.
00:14:09
Ryne
Are you backside boozies?
00:14:09
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Yes. And so we've got Luca Augustine. oof This is not an easy first backside match, but we get through it. And what's what's our reward for winning our first match? We have the number nine seed, Bo Mantonona.
00:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah Probably not going to be able to win this match. But we do it anyway. And then we've got Colin Kelly, who we had on the ropes. Or actually, I think we were beating in the duel at at Illinois. And we dropped it late. But we're getting our revenge this time to put ourselves into the blood round. And who do we have? Matty Singleton. We get the job done. Because Singleton's in sad boy hours.
00:14:45
Cokeley Brothers
And we find ourselves in in the placement area. wherere we're We're top eight. And then we beat Carter Schubert to advance to top six. And we get dusted by Carson Hartzler.
00:14:57
Cokeley Brothers
Top six for Derek Gilcher. And Simon Ruiz is my champ. Which... I want to ask the people, here's two things. two Two things have been happening at this weight class. Either one, everybody says Haynes next topic. They're saying it's it's the next topic weights are our Mitchell Mezenbrink, Josh Barr, and Levi Haynes. And they don't even talk about Jesse Mendez.
00:15:19
Cokeley Brothers
ah And then everybody else is saying, no, no, no, no. Levi Haynes is going to lose to Chris Minto. And I'm sitting here saying, who forgot about Simon Ruiz?
00:15:31
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
00:15:34
Ryne
I don't know. He's forgettable.
00:15:36
Cokeley Brothers
What are we doing? What's going on?
00:15:38
Reese
I, why, well, yeah, why do you,
00:15:38
Ryne
I'm putting Levi Haynes at the top for this one.
00:15:45
Reese
you, you give, you give Simon re Ruiz no shot.
00:15:50
Cokeley Brothers
I do. I have them winning it.
00:15:55
Reese
I know I'm saying time to run.
00:15:59
Ryne
Oh, I mean, he has got a shot. Everyone has a shot.
00:16:02
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, shut up. Do you remember Ruiz versus Haynes on the backside last year?
00:16:10
Reese
Yeah, he was right there. I mean, he was, wasn't he winning that match?
00:16:14
Cokeley Brothers
No, but he was in on the winning takedown and the scramble ensued and Haynes won it.
00:16:18
Reese
that's right.
00:16:21
Cokeley Brothers
But the point stands. Simon Ruiz is the two seed for a reason. And people are going say, oh, yeah, well, that's because he's only 16-0 and he had a he had a cake a cupcake Cornell Ivy League schedule.
00:16:37
Cokeley Brothers
ah Shut up. He beat Matt Singleton.
00:16:40
Reese
Okay.
00:16:40
Cokeley Brothers
He beat Alec Facundo. He's good. He's beating good guys. And ah he's going to beat Levi Haynes.
00:16:52
Cokeley Brothers
I hope.
00:16:52
Reese
Well, he's got to beat Minto first. how do you How do you think that Minto match goes?
00:16:58
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't want to think about it. I just think he's going to win it.
00:17:00
Ryne
Minto Strong. meno strong
00:17:03
Cokeley Brothers
Minto strong, Minto long, Minto rough and Minto tough.
00:17:04
Reese
Minto, very strong. Ruiz seems like he's really strong too, though.
00:17:09
Cokeley Brothers
It's, uh, yeah, ah it's gotta be like a John Lowe type of strength where he grabs you and you're like, oh, get off me. Um, but I don't know.
00:17:19
Reese
Yeah. I, uh, man, I know I haven't gotten there yet, but and back to your point about the, what the public thinks about who is a lock and who isn't a lock. I feel like it's very
Betting Stories and Responsible Gambling
00:17:31
Reese
mixed. Like there are a lot of people who think it's, I mean, obviously you got your real locks between one nine, uh, 165 and 197. I'd say those are your two true locks. That's it.
00:17:47
Reese
in my, in my opinion, but then you got a lot of people who think like there's, you know, they'll they'll include 74 or they'll include 57, even stupid to me.
00:17:47
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, it's...
00:17:57
Cokeley Brothers
Or 84 and 125.
00:17:57
Reese
That
00:17:59
Cokeley Brothers
Like...
00:18:00
Reese
eighty four
00:18:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:18:02
Reese
ah yeah think eighty four is is stupid
00:18:02
Cokeley Brothers
There's Dude,
00:18:07
Cokeley Brothers
there are people out there who are like, if you are picking against a Penn State wrestler, you've lost your mind.
00:18:07
Reese
to me
00:18:13
Cokeley Brothers
And...
00:18:14
Reese
that I mean, that whole over-under five and a half. I decided this yesterday, maybe be two days ago. I'm gonna go i'm going all in. I'm going to make this tournament as stressful as possible for myself.
00:18:29
Cokeley Brothers
Me too. I've done it.
00:18:29
Reese
I'm going find what's the best. What?
00:18:33
Cokeley Brothers
I've done it.
00:18:34
Reese
You've already done it?
00:18:35
Cokeley Brothers
I've committed to like... I i i want to see... i only have two Penn State champs. And like i I thought to myself, like what's the best outcome of like individuals and teams that I want to see have like ah have moderate success? And it's like, Penn State still wins, but they only have two champs and they have eight All-Americans.
00:18:56
Reese
um when um I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
00:18:57
Cokeley Brothers
Oklahoma State...
00:18:59
Reese
I'm talking about betting.
00:18:59
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, then go ahead. What are you saying?
00:19:05
Cokeley Brothers
Oh! No, I don't do that. Uh-uh.
00:19:08
Reese
Yeah.
00:19:09
Cokeley Brothers
Uh-uh.
00:19:10
Reese
I got the bug, dude.
00:19:10
Cokeley Brothers
what ah What are you...
00:19:11
Reese
I'm going I'm probably going to like, i don't know where to go. like I don't know what the go-to like sports book is for this type of thing. but I, I, you know, I, every year I always do like, you know, I'll do like pick them contests and fantasy stuff.
00:19:27
Reese
I want to do the fantasy thing on wrestle stat. I think it's still open.
00:19:31
Cokeley Brothers
but With the wrestling room?
00:19:32
Reese
Pat Moneo usually does. ah
00:19:34
Reese
Well, yeah, that's Pat Moneo saying, yeah, I want to do that.
00:19:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:38
Reese
Um, you know, we, we all, we are in a group that we do fantasy wrestling,
00:19:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:19:46
Reese
Uh, and yeah, I want to do some pick them contests. I want to, and then, yeah, I want to just do some straight up, you know, spreads over unders.
00:19:53
Cokeley Brothers
Dambling.
00:19:56
Reese
I just want to, i don't know. I've been, I've been, I've been having to fight the the bug for a long time, especially like this year, like between football and basketball, I've been a good boy.
00:20:07
Reese
i haven't been, I've been resisting it. It's everywhere now. And can't, especially like in Kansas, it became legal a few years back. And it's just like it's it's penetrated every single like aspect of your everyday life.
00:20:14
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. That
00:20:25
Reese
It's everywhere. It's inescapable. And you know what?
00:20:29
Cokeley Brothers
is not...
00:20:30
Reese
You can't beat them.
00:20:30
Cokeley Brothers
That is such a bad pitch for gambling.
00:20:31
Reese
Join them.
00:20:33
Reese
And it's wrestling.
00:20:34
Cokeley Brothers
You make it sound like...
00:20:36
Reese
No, it's wrestling. It's wrestling. it's it's one It would be one thing if it's basketball or football even. But wrestling is a lot more predictable, I think. I spent like a season on this website.
00:20:51
Reese
It's like the only place that I could find that had college wrestling betting lines. And that was like the 2018, 2019 season. And I made like good money.
00:21:04
Reese
i had like no money at that point in my life. But
Bracket Predictions and Surprises
00:21:08
Reese
I profited a lot of money only to find out that, you know, when I tried to pull my money out, I had to, I found out i had to bet a specific amount of, you know, you know how it works.
00:21:20
Reese
Like you if you take like free, you know how they they'll, they'll, they'll give you free, like a free, like a hundred dollars to, to bet with or whatever.
00:21:27
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:21:30
Reese
Well, then there's a catch where you have to bet like 10, 10 X that amount, uh, in order to actually withdraw those winnings.
00:21:43
Reese
Um, And then when I tried to start, when I tried to continue to bet the website, ah like locked me out of my account, froze me out my account and basically told me, um, since you tried to withdraw, we have to get some proof of identification. Like they wanted me to upload my ID and email them it, and also upload a copy of like a bill.
00:22:10
Reese
of like my utility bill to prove that I, you know, lived here in in the United States or proof of residence or whatever. So I just have like, I have like four or $500 sitting in that account for about the past almost 10 years now.
00:22:28
Reese
But anyway, long story short, I'm in, I'm the all in.
00:22:29
Cokeley Brothers
Kids.
00:22:32
Cokeley Brothers
Kids, kids, stay out gambling.
00:22:36
Reese
Kids use discretion, be, you know, be reasonable and use moderation, gamble in moderation or abstain.
00:22:36
Ryne
One time, Sammy.
00:22:46
Ryne
Sammy, you remember that time you you wrestled in freestyle tournament in Dallas? And recently came down and watched you.
00:22:53
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:22:54
Reese
What about it?
00:22:56
Ryne
There was this dude on Twitter who had like lines for some of the like matches at that tournament. And I bet on one. I couldn't remember. Reese, you remember who it was?
00:23:09
Ryne
i needed i needed them to win by fall.
00:23:12
Reese
I don't remember.
00:23:13
Ryne
And they were losing the entire match. And then they got the fall with like 10 seconds left. One turned like $5 into 50. It was awesome.
00:23:24
Reese
Who would that have been?
00:23:24
Ryne
From then on, I was pretty much hooked.
00:23:28
Ryne
Hmm?
00:23:29
Reese
so that was at the last chance qualifier?
00:23:34
Ryne
Yeah. I can't remember who the bet was.
00:23:35
Reese
They had what, what, where do, where were their betting lines for the last chance qualifier?
00:23:40
Ryne
It was just some dude on Twitter doing it. Hold on, let me look. me look Let me look through my DMs.
00:23:43
Reese
Oh, okay.
00:23:48
Cokeley Brothers
Kids, stay out of gambling.
00:23:53
Ryne
Or don't.
00:23:55
Cokeley Brothers
i I got i got ah approached on Twitter about because I said that ah Penn State would only have three champs. and They're like, okay, side bet, $100 down on that. I was like, all no.
00:24:06
Reese
You should have done that.
00:24:06
Cokeley Brothers
No, thank you.
00:24:07
Reese
Why wouldn't you take that?
00:24:07
Cokeley Brothers
Leave me alone. i mean, they're probably going to have at least four champs, Penn State.
00:24:12
Reese
They kind of pumped you there, dude.
00:24:16
Cokeley Brothers
I don't gamble. i don't I don't have money to spend like that.
00:24:20
Reese
You don't gamble even a little bit. It's fun, dude. Just a little bit here and there.
00:24:23
Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't.
00:24:24
Reese
It's fun.
00:24:25
Cokeley Brothers
i The only money I have ever gambled has not been mine.
00:24:30
Reese
all I will say, i did that same year where I was betting a lot on NCAA wrestling. Uh, later in that season during the, uh, I'm guessing it was probably the U S open or the trials.
00:24:45
Reese
I put like a hundred bucks down on the field against Frank Molinaro. So it was, it it was Frank Molinaro versus the field.
00:24:53
Ryne
Thank you.
00:24:54
Reese
And there was really good odds. And, you know, you had Ryan Deacon, Alec Pantaleo, um, Hayden Hydeley. Yeah. You got several guys who had realistic,
00:25:07
Reese
Chances at beating Frank. He ended up winning it. Right. Ryan Deacon was winning. and at certain points in the match. But you know, at that point in his career, he was, he would, he would get up a lot and then blow it.
00:25:24
Reese
And losing that hundred dollars was like devastating. It ruined my entire week, man. i I, you know, but then also at that point in my life, a hundred bucks was a lot. So.
00:25:37
Reese
it was painful so that is a cautionary tale you know if you take losses hard that chick can hurt
00:25:48
Ryne
It was a hurt race.
00:25:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, no thank you.
00:25:52
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:25:53
Ryne
It was Evan Henderson is who I bet on.
00:25:53
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:25:57
Cokeley Brothers
That makes total sense.
00:25:57
Reese
who
00:25:59
Cokeley Brothers
Evan Henderson.
00:26:00
Ryne
I can't remember who he was wrestling, but and i just bet on the i just bet on the money line.
00:26:03
Cokeley Brothers
could have been
00:26:06
Ryne
And he was losing he was losing the entire match, and then he got the fall with, like, no time left.
00:26:06
Cokeley Brothers
It could have been literally anybody, dude.
00:26:13
Ryne
Turned $5 into $50 right there.
00:26:18
Cokeley Brothers
That's nice. um Okay. Other notable elements to this. Man, where do I have MJ Gaetan losing?
00:26:30
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, i have ah I have Pinto making a backside run to the blood round and then losing to Facundo. I also have Facundo taking fourth place, avenging his long-time ah loss streak against Patrick Kennedy.
00:26:48
Cokeley Brothers
ah That felt good for him. So can't wait to see him do that.
00:26:51
Reese
so do you you have guy time losing to uh singleton
00:26:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. 100%. Dude, he might not even be Brody Bauman.
00:27:00
Reese
i got scat i got him beating singleton you're right he might not beat brodie bauman but i have him beating both of those guys and hell maybe i'll pick him against mento who knows
00:27:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:27:14
Reese
Maybe I'm back in on the Gaitan train.
00:27:14
Cokeley Brothers
That's
00:27:17
Reese
I bought stock early.
00:27:17
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy. jar Jared Sima also makes it to the blood round and then loses to Patrick Kennedy.
00:27:19
Reese
Ow. That hurt.
00:27:22
Cokeley Brothers
That's going to be a tough one. Jesus Christ, Reese.
00:27:25
Ryne
You're anti-sunflower.
00:27:26
Reese
ah hurt
00:27:29
Cokeley Brothers
ah What do you mean?
00:27:35
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, if i have if I have Patrick Kennedy losing to Jared Sima,
00:27:41
Cokeley Brothers
that is bad for the Hawkeyes. And like they need this right now. The Kansans will take a loss to just... Iowa needs this.
00:27:51
Ryne
So we're still riding that Wyatt Hendrickson high.
00:27:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we'll we'll have that one for a while.
00:27:55
Ryne
okay
00:27:57
Cokeley Brothers
And we got... Hey, we got we got shooters at this year. We got Witt, we got Dawson, we got Sima. Reese, I was wrong yesterday. Devin Dawson is is Kansas' kid. So that's three.
00:28:08
Ryne
fourth. He's a quarter.
00:28:11
Cokeley Brothers
Three. Yeah, he was only there for one year, but that's fine. Minnesota, you can take your three quarters, whatever.
00:28:17
Ryne
didn do two He did two years at Pratt.
00:28:21
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Well then, yeah, he's ours. Screw it.
00:28:25
Reese
Not a Kansas guy.
00:28:25
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:28:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, he is.
00:28:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Any other thoughts on 174?
00:28:35
Ryne
Levi Haynes. levi haynes
00:28:40
Cokeley Brothers
Simon Ruiz and Reese, you complete the the trifecta.
00:28:44
Reese
I got one one thing to say. One question to ask more.
00:28:46
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:28:49
Reese
Well, does Karcha, if he makes the semis, he got over Kennedy last Last week or two weeks ago or whatever. He got over the Kenny Hope. Can he do it? Does he have a shot?
00:29:00
Reese
get What percentage do give him against
00:29:02
Cokeley Brothers
Five.
00:29:04
Ryne
Yep, five. that was That was exactly the number i was going to say.
00:29:05
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe 15. Yeah. yeah
00:29:10
Cokeley Brothers
15 tops, but probably five.
00:29:12
Reese
Give me
00:29:14
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah.
00:29:17
Cokeley Brothers
No, you don't know. Denied.
00:29:19
Reese
him. This is his last this is lost chance
00:29:26
Cokeley Brothers
i know it just, you don't dude here. Okay. So actually I forgot to mention this part about one 74 because I do have a quarterfinal matchup that I think most people, most of the time would find very intriguing.
00:29:36
Reese
I'm very free.
00:29:38
Cokeley Brothers
And that's Alex Fakundo versus Levi Haynes.
00:29:38
Reese
And I'll just cut recent.
00:29:40
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, turn your volume down just a little bit.
00:29:45
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Facundo Haynes, former teammates. Facundo even has the most recent win in freestyle over Haynes. However, here's my issue.
00:29:57
Cokeley Brothers
Facundo has a high shot rate and gets in on legs, gets in on attacks.
00:30:09
Reese
Sorry.
00:30:10
Cokeley Brothers
Are you there?
00:30:13
Reese
I was just trying to move the mic away from my computer.
00:30:13
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:30:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um
00:30:21
Cokeley Brothers
My issue is that Facundo and how long he takes to finish shots is it plays into how good Haynes is at defending. If you even get if you give Levi Haynes a moment to stuff your head and put pressure in with his hips and and lengthen the position out.
00:30:40
Cokeley Brothers
you're not going to finish the shot. And so I don't think Fakundo is able to get over the hump against a guy like Levi Haynes. And I think, yes, Carson Harchler could finish some shots finish some shots and and score on Haynes, but I don't think he can put a full, complete seven minutes together.
00:30:48
Reese
Okay. Okay.
00:30:58
Cokeley Brothers
That is my estimation.
00:31:05
Cokeley Brothers
All right. 184. Let's get to the fun stuff here. I have something happening in this bracket that has yet to happen.
00:31:17
Reese
What, 84?
00:31:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's what I meant.
00:31:19
Ryne
You have Aiden Sinclair taking down Angelo Ferrari.
00:31:24
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:31:28
Cokeley Brothers
I have a 33 seed beating the one seed.
00:31:35
Ryne
Who's that?
00:31:37
Cokeley Brothers
Sam going
00:31:40
Ryne
What's the faith you have?
00:31:43
Cokeley Brothers
the, all right. And you know what? I understand that. Like Reese, I'm still getting some feedback.
00:31:51
Reese
That's crazy. Cause like i'm if where I'm not gonna be able to hear Ryan at all. If I turn it down anymore,
00:31:58
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All right. All right.
00:32:02
Reese
maybe turn your ears down.
00:32:06
Reese
If you can, can you do that?
00:32:08
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:32:08
Reese
Turn your
00:32:08
Cokeley Brothers
No.
Rivalries and Dramatic Match Outcomes
00:32:09
Reese
your input down.
00:32:09
Cokeley Brothers
That's... to Make this quieter?
00:32:14
Reese
Make your mic quieter.
00:32:16
Cokeley Brothers
i can't I can't do that in the middle of the show, I don't think. Maybe?
00:32:19
Reese
Push it away from you.
00:32:20
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know. Sure. i'll do I'll talk from here. ah
00:32:29
Cokeley Brothers
Here's the deal. Rocco Welsh has given up takedowns, I think, against three people.
00:32:33
Reese
I think. But.
00:32:35
Cokeley Brothers
It's been Fishback, Mantenona and Sam going Sam going's gotten a takedown on him twice in their one match. So the person who has the most offensive capability who or is at least shown it is Sam going.
00:32:51
Cokeley Brothers
But I also recognize at the same time, this is insane because it's a 33 seed versus a one seed. Yes, Sam Gohan maybe shouldn't be the 33 seed because ah all of his losses are guys that are seeded top 20 or higher.
00:33:01
Cokeley Brothers
ah But his wins are kind of, it's kind of a messed up situation. Either way, ah just if it's going to happen, this is the most likely situation for it to happen. And honestly, i think most people in the arena would be psyched to see this happen.
00:33:20
Cokeley Brothers
So I'm having it happen. I'm having Sam go and beat Rocco Welsh, and then he's going to beat Ian Bush, and then he's going to beat Chris Moore and make the semifinals, where he has James Conway, and he's going to lose.
00:33:32
Cokeley Brothers
And the in the Cinderella run's going to end there, but, however,
00:33:33
Reese
or you can see.
00:33:39
Cokeley Brothers
that means he's going to take the slide. He's going go all the way down to sixth place because he's going lose to Aiden Sinclair on the backside, and then he's to have Rocco Welsh for fifth, and Rocco is going to tech-fall him. He's going to be very mad, and he's going to do bad things to Sam going for fifth place.
00:33:54
Cokeley Brothers
And in the finals, we're going to see James Conway versus Angelo Ferrari, and Angelo Ferrari is going to complete the season with ah how many losses? Three losses and zero takedowns given up.
00:34:06
Cokeley Brothers
He's going win. He's going to beat Aiden Sinclair. He's going to be Max McAnally. He's going to beat Caleb Campos, and he's going to beat Chase Kranitz.
00:34:20
Cokeley Brothers
And James Conway.
00:34:23
Reese
What can I other than... Who, me? other than
00:34:27
Ryne
Not how I see it going down.
00:34:30
Cokeley Brothers
Tell me.
00:34:33
Reese
so me
00:34:37
Ryne
I see Aiden Sinclair doing it.
00:34:37
Cokeley Brothers
Pick.
00:34:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's fair.
00:34:49
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, Angelo really boned himself by forfeiting out at Big Tens.
00:34:57
Ryne
Yeah, well.
00:34:58
Cokeley Brothers
He screwed this up, man, because he really should have been like the five or four seed, probably the five seed, because like McAnally or not McAnally, James Conway lost to Caleb Campos.
00:35:01
Reese
yeah
00:35:09
Reese
They should have made him to Make him to
00:35:09
Cokeley Brothers
So like.
00:35:13
Cokeley Brothers
Make him the eight seed. Make him the seven seed. Or no, make him the six seed.
00:35:17
Reese
Make him to
00:35:19
Cokeley Brothers
Make him the nine seed. Make him the four seed. Like, make him anything other than putting him on the bottom half. Because I'll tell you what, if Sammy G doesn't beat Rocco Welsh, Rocco Welsh is making the finals.
00:35:29
Cokeley Brothers
The only other two guys that could stop him are Mantenone and Fishback, and neither of them are going to get past Conway because they're going to empty the gas tank beating each other. And then they're going to have to make weight.
00:35:37
Reese
You don't give Conway a shot?
00:35:41
Cokeley Brothers
No. No.
00:35:44
Cokeley Brothers
I don't.
00:35:44
Reese
Why not?
00:35:49
Cokeley Brothers
It's not the, he's not the complete, he just doesn't have, he's missing something that Sammy G has. And so he's just not gonna be able to get it done now.
00:35:56
Ryne
Thank you.
00:35:56
Reese
Dude, I think you're, have you watched him wrestle?
00:36:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he's pretty good.
00:36:05
Reese
He really good.
00:36:06
Cokeley Brothers
He's pretty good, but he ah a lot of his stuff relies on that that pace and the pressure, and I think that that is something that Rocco Welsh is going to be able to withstand.
00:36:22
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see, though. We will see.
00:36:24
Ryne
Aiden Sinclair winning it all.
00:36:28
Cokeley Brothers
that So that is the other...
00:36:29
Reese
that's.
00:36:30
Cokeley Brothers
like
00:36:34
Cokeley Brothers
good timeline the other positive outcome because I don't I don't reliably expect Ferrari or McAnally to beat Welsh as evidenced by what has happened against him so far
00:36:35
Reese
Good.
00:36:48
Cokeley Brothers
so yeah with that being said I also have McAnally beating Welsh on the backside so
00:36:57
Cokeley Brothers
And to my Ohio State ah brothers and sisters, Dylan Fishback is losing in the blood round to Rocco Welsh. I'm sorry. You can be mad at Sammy G for that. Sometimes that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
00:37:11
Cokeley Brothers
Zach Ryder gets into eighth place. He beats Chris Moore in the ah blood round with half of a shoulder.
00:37:16
Ryne
How many shoulders? Just half?
00:37:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, half a shoulder. And... ah Well, it's because Brian Saldana took out the half of the other one and ah trying to put him on his back after he's already on his back.
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
ah And yeah, Silas Allred slips in for seventh place. So Huskers can be happy about that one.
00:37:45
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I got.
00:37:48
Ryne
Rhys? Rhys?
00:37:52
Reese
I got I got a, you know, I think I'll i'll probably end up putting
00:38:02
Reese
Rocky on the backside. don't want him to make the finals at all, but if he does make the finals, he's definitely not winning. In no way can I see, in no possible future do I see Rocky winning the 184 bracket.
00:38:21
Reese
Not my bracket at least. It's not happening.
00:38:23
Cokeley Brothers
Who's Rocky?
00:38:24
Reese
I won't allow it. He has gotten, but he has skated by too many times.
00:38:27
Ryne
He means rock.
00:38:29
Reese
I'm like, I'm disappointed in the lack of like specifically flow, the flow boys, how they're they've softened, man. They've definitely never go after Penn state.
00:38:42
Reese
Like imagine if Rocky or Rocco, um, had, I did that several times.
00:38:48
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you. You had me messed up, man.
00:38:52
Reese
Imagine if Rocco had, thats if he was like from Iran or Russia, and he'd done that singlet pull on the like at Worlds, they would have lit him up.
00:38:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:39:05
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:39:07
Reese
And they brushed over it like it was no big deal.
00:39:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And like people.
00:39:10
Reese
It's a huge deal. It had a huge impact on the match.
00:39:13
Cokeley Brothers
People.
00:39:16
Reese
no matter whether and you eat Whether it did or didn't, whether it was accidental or on purpose, that's irrelevant.
00:39:17
Cokeley Brothers
People were.
00:39:23
Reese
It was 100% illegal. illegal
00:39:30
Cokeley Brothers
People were like really complaining about the one where he was on top and you saw him like pulling the singlet strap across the chest. To me, it's the one where he grabbed on the hip and used that to hold on when Angelo had him up in the air.
00:39:42
Cokeley Brothers
Because he's using that as like an anchoring point.
00:39:43
Reese
Exactly. That is the big one.
00:39:45
Cokeley Brothers
ah That, like, that, you you cannot hold yourself up without grabbing that.
00:39:46
Reese
That
00:39:53
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:39:53
Reese
that one was worse than this. That one was had more effect on the match than the Zahid Brooks one.
00:40:02
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I mean, yeah, every singlet poll has more effect on the match than that one. So,
Heavyweight Category Predictions
00:40:09
Cokeley Brothers
but college wrestling is kind of grateful for that singlet poll Reese.
00:40:14
Reese
Yeah, it's true.
00:40:17
Ryne
Only one.
00:40:19
Reese
I just know that Rocco is getting his comeuppance. his He will get his Jess desserts, and it will be this week. It's going to happen.
00:40:31
Reese
He's not going to win one of you for it. Mark my freaking words. That will be the first bet I place.
00:40:40
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I was waiting for.
00:40:44
Cokeley Brothers
You put your money where your mouth is. All right.
00:40:46
Ryne
So how many champs how many champs do you think Penn State's going to have?
00:40:47
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:40:47
Reese
That's
00:40:50
Cokeley Brothers
Two. I predict two in my bracket, but it is probably going to be four.
00:40:59
Ryne
You predict Messenbrink and Barr, that's it.
00:41:03
Cokeley Brothers
bar missing break. So here's, here's here's my, so my floor and ceiling floor, mesenbrick and bar ceiling, mesenbrick and bar plus two other guys.
00:41:07
Ryne
who Who's be who' beating
00:41:13
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, and Ryan, he's had so many close matches this year. He like, he's lost to his teammate. He can lose.
00:41:21
Ryne
His teammate's really good. His teammate beat some good 41-hounders.
00:41:23
Cokeley Brothers
I understand that. And there's other 125 pounders. here's Here's the deal, right? A lot of people are talking about like, oh, Luke Lilladol, undefeated, Big Ten champ. That's great. There's plenty of talent in the Big 12 and in the ACC that can take him out.
00:41:37
Cokeley Brothers
Whoever wins between ah Troy Spratley, Vince Robinson, and Sheldon Seymour, that's who he's going to have in the semis. That is not going to be an easy matchup for Luke Lilladol. And then whoever he's going to end up having in the finals, whether it's, dare I say, Jacob Moran,
00:41:51
Cokeley Brothers
Or Nico Provo, Mark Anthony McGowan, Eddie Ventresca, Jory Volk, Nick Buzakis.
00:41:56
Reese
Thank you.
00:41:57
Cokeley Brothers
There's so many guys who I think give Luke Lillard all a run for his money.
00:42:04
Cokeley Brothers
and And Ryan, things have gone for gone in Penn State's favor so far this year for too long. Okay? So if if they just... Dude, if they have like 10 All-Americans and like seven national champs, I'm going to have a terrible time for the next calendar year.
00:42:20
Ryne
It's probably what's going to happen.
00:42:26
Reese
Did he say that's probably what's going to happen?
00:42:26
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:42:28
Ryne
It'll be nine.
00:42:28
Cokeley Brothers
You did say that.
00:42:29
Ryne
It'll be nine All-Americans. It'll be nine.
00:42:31
Reese
Seven? So you think you're going to seven champs?
00:42:34
Ryne
They could.
00:42:34
Reese
Would you put money on that?
00:42:41
Ryne
How much money?
00:42:47
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:42:48
Ryne
How much money?
00:42:48
Cokeley Brothers
Let's...
00:42:49
Ryne
How much money, Rhys?
00:42:51
Cokeley Brothers
No, you guys can put your side bets on the table after the show. uh one is one 97
00:42:57
Reese
I would never bet with this man.
00:43:04
Cokeley Brothers
it is the next topic wait but i want to talk about who can he see in the semis or no who can he see in the finals and and i who could give him a run for his money i have one name in particular on my mind uh i guess two
00:43:12
Ryne
money?
00:43:25
Cokeley Brothers
And then there's probably a third one that people are thinking of that I don't actually expect to be a real problem for him. But Josh Barr is going to win.
00:43:35
Cokeley Brothers
I think you could see guys like Sonny Sasso and Rocky Elam give him a run for his money.
00:43:37
Reese
Okay.
00:43:45
Cokeley Brothers
And then the other person that that people might consider is Justin Rademacher. If he makes it to Saturday night, full feed, he's going to be like 289 pounds by then. and and you know ready to out-strength Josh Barr, I just don't see it happening.
00:44:03
Cokeley Brothers
One, I don't see him getting there. And two, if he does, it just doesn't feel like it's going to happen.
00:44:08
Reese
Who? Novak? Is that what you
00:44:11
Cokeley Brothers
Justin Rademacher.
00:44:13
Reese
said? Oh, right. I'll say I think Novak is interesting. ah Maybe Lil and Elam.
00:44:28
Reese
And Merrill. Merrill, too, is someone I would love to see against Barr. Because I don't see Barr
00:44:34
Cokeley Brothers
well
Humorous Closing Thoughts
00:44:35
Reese
blowing Merrill out of the water, you know?
00:44:37
Reese
I just... I don't know. I have hard time picturing that.
00:44:42
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, man. i So Merrill is who I have making the finals.
00:44:48
Reese
Oh, okay.
00:44:50
Cokeley Brothers
I have making the finals. He he he he beats ah Ben Vanadia, Max Stout, Rocky Elam, and Steven Little to make the finals, and then drops the finals to Josh Barr.
00:45:02
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I have.
00:45:05
Reese
Okay.
00:45:06
Cokeley Brothers
Now, you know, I.
00:45:07
Reese
If he can make the finals, he's got a shot. Yeah.
00:45:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, anything can happen Saturday night, but. And then round of 12, we've got Remy Cotton losing to Joey Novak, Gabe Sollers beating Angelo Posada, ah Rocky Elam beating Luke Geog and Justin Rademacher beating DJ Parker.
00:45:30
Cokeley Brothers
That could all flip around. You've also got a 27 seed Gabe Arnold, who is a a lightweight landmine and could be a problem for most people.
00:45:33
Reese
Thank you.
00:45:39
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think he's going to win his first round matchup since it's probably the biggest guy in the weight wrestling the smallest guy in the weight. And that normally doesn't pan out well for the smallest guy. ah Bennett Berge is also pretty under the radar, tough guy ah that people should keep an eye on.
00:45:59
Cokeley Brothers
Remy Cotton, Branson John. Those are some some other Big Ten Hammers. Colton Hawks, with a 7-9 record, has had an overall terrible season.
00:46:10
Cokeley Brothers
Kind of came alive at and or at Big 12s. So, we'll see. I don't know. I don't know what to expect. He's a...
00:46:18
Reese
I like Hawks.
00:46:25
Reese
What can I say?
00:46:27
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Okay.
00:46:29
Reese
Somebody say love them.
00:46:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Well, he's up a weight class, so you could even say Big Hawks.
00:46:33
Reese
Colton Hawks.
00:46:37
Reese
Big Hawks.
00:46:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:41
Reese
Big Hawks do some big things.
00:46:41
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:46:49
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Ryan. Thoughts and prayers.
00:46:52
Reese
This guy, he didn't even care. He didn't even, I got nothing from him.
00:46:56
Ryne
um yet I'm going to say
00:47:02
Ryne
ah say Josh Barr.
00:47:05
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. He said Josh Barr. Reese, if you're curious.
00:47:09
Reese
That was his pick.
00:47:09
Ryne
But I'm going to say he beats.
00:47:14
Ryne
I'm going to say he beats.
00:47:20
Ryne
Man, I want to go Elam, but.
00:47:21
Reese
Stick sounds like he's medicated.
00:47:24
Ryne
No, I'm i'm not.
00:47:24
Cokeley Brothers
No, he's just got a child who's trying to sleep.
00:47:26
Ryne
um Yeah, my my my baby is right up there. um
00:47:33
Reese
need You need to go out in the shed. You need to set up a studio in the shed.
00:47:38
Ryne
Hey, you know what you need to do, Reese?
00:47:40
Reese
Do you have a shed?
00:47:44
Ryne
You need to shed these balls from your mouth.
00:47:49
Reese
Hey, when are you moving?
00:47:53
Ryne
May 1st.
00:47:56
Reese
May 1st?
00:47:58
Cokeley Brothers
New studio.
00:47:58
Ryne
May 1st.
00:48:00
Reese
Did he say May 1st? I can't hear him.
00:48:02
Cokeley Brothers
He said May 1st. He said May 1st.
00:48:03
Reese
Okay.
00:48:04
Cokeley Brothers
And you know what? We're going to move forward because you guys are. i'm du I'm not playing telephone.
00:48:14
Cokeley Brothers
All right. 285. Time for the big guns to come out. And I have.
00:48:22
Reese
Hey, have a question.
00:48:22
Cokeley Brothers
I have some things happening. All right.
00:48:25
Reese
Before we move on, i got I want to get your opinion on this. Geog versus McDaniel. That's what I have and the second round on the backside. Who would you pick?
00:48:41
Cokeley Brothers
Ah, Geog.
00:48:44
Reese
right, McDaniel it is.
00:48:49
Reese
I'm just kidding. what okay What about what about ah Amos and Devin Dawson? Who's your pick there?
00:48:56
Cokeley Brothers
Dawson.
00:48:58
Reese
is he is he Do you really think he you would beat Amos?
00:49:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:49:03
Ryne
It'd be a good match.
00:49:07
Reese
Okay.
00:49:11
Reese
All righty.
00:49:12
Cokeley Brothers
All right, let's let's let's do some... Let's talk about the quarterfinals here. Up at the top, we got Younger Bastida versus Ben Keeter. Keeter going to have a hard time getting there.
00:49:23
Cokeley Brothers
He's got Conor Mirasola, who beat him earlier this year, but I think we are seeing the best version of Ben Keeter.
00:49:28
Reese
He also
00:49:29
Cokeley Brothers
I think the Iowa Hawkeyes are... I know. Can i
Episode Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:49:33
Cokeley Brothers
finish what I was saying?
00:49:35
Reese
it makes, it it makes, it doesn't make sense when you say he beat him earlier in this year. You preface that when he beat him most recently.
00:49:44
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So so if if I could finish, if i could finish i as I was saying,
00:49:49
Reese
But you, I'm just saying the setup is, it's a weird way to set it up.
00:49:56
Cokeley Brothers
while Cole Mirasola beat Ben Keeter earlier this year, I think the Hawks are peaking at this time of the year, as evidenced by the fact that Ben Keeter beat him at Big Tens.
00:50:07
Reese
Yeah, that's strange. That's all i got to say. Strange.
00:50:13
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All I'm giving credit to both of them.
00:50:14
Reese
Yeah.
00:50:15
Cokeley Brothers
I'm trying to say, hey, there's some back and forth here. It's not it's not black and white. There's a gray area. But I have Keir making the quarters. He's got Bastida. Bastida's going to beat him.
00:50:27
Ryne
I have like light gray, medium gray, dark gray.
00:50:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. ah Nick Feldman takes out Braxton Amos to make it to the quarterfinals where he will have AJ Ferrari. And Ferrari is going to get the win over Feldman again to tie their series at two to two.
00:50:44
Ryne
You think so?
00:50:45
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I think. But get ready because something's going to happen in the semis between Ferrari and Bastida.
00:50:46
Reese
Thank you.
00:50:50
Cokeley Brothers
Tegadali beats Devin Dawson who had to take out Nathan Taylor to make it to the quarterfinals. And Connor Doucette falls to Isaac Trumbull in the quarters. In the semis. We have Younger Bastida versus AJ Ferrari, a match, a heated rivalry.
00:51:05
Cokeley Brothers
Good show reference. If that dates back to 2021, Bastida wins this time.
00:51:14
Cokeley Brothers
And ah Ferrari is not happy about it. As a matter of fact,
00:51:23
Cokeley Brothers
AJ Ferrari gets himself disqualified in this match.
00:51:25
Ryne
No. Yeah.
00:51:29
Reese
What's he do?
00:51:33
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not even ready to fathom that. I'm not. I gotta i can't imagine. nobody can Nobody knows what AJ Ferrari's next next move is. And that's that's honestly the that's the charm about him.
00:51:45
Cokeley Brothers
He's unpredictable. ah And so that forces him...
00:51:47
Reese
Well, you can't predict he gets disqualified and then not tell us how.
00:51:53
Ryne
yeah
00:51:53
Cokeley Brothers
Oh! Okay. Alright. Well, I thought you meant like, okay, he got disqualified from the tournament. Now what does he do? i don't know. Transfers, probably? Yeah.
00:52:02
Ryne
Does he helicopter the crowd?
00:52:03
Reese
No, no, no. What's he doing the match?
00:52:05
Reese
Or post-batch?
00:52:05
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, no, he, uh, this, there's an out of bounds exchange late in the match, uh, that, of that devolves into fists and Mark, Mark Manning gets involved.
00:52:18
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and he,
00:52:19
Ryne
Oh, so only AJ throws punches?
00:52:24
Cokeley Brothers
uh, you can probably, you there's probably going to be some controversy. You hit the replay and it's like, Bastida got his licks in, but AJ was clearly the aggressor or something like that.
00:52:32
Ryne
if he were in If you see Bastida throw any punches whatsoever, he's DQ'd too, per the rules.
00:52:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but you have to have a winner. You can't have a non-final.
00:52:42
Ryne
per that's not
00:52:44
Cokeley Brothers
Can't.
00:52:44
Ryne
That's not true.
00:52:46
Cokeley Brothers
And I'll tell you what, Ryan, it's going to be extremely controversial.
00:52:49
Ryne
no You know NJCAA 125, there is no
00:52:49
Cokeley Brothers
Just the way it is.
00:52:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:52:56
Reese
What if he hits him with the old...
00:52:56
Ryne
third and fourth place winner
00:53:00
Reese
The
00:53:04
Reese
The old... Dick twist.
00:53:10
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah, Ryan, the one you're talking about was a one 25 pounder from Rutgers. What was his name?
00:53:17
Ryne
It was Jet Strickenberger and Nico Aguilar.
00:53:17
Reese
Aiden? Smith?
00:53:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's right. Thank you. Uh, but yeah, so, so,
00:53:25
Ryne
they both started They both started swinging. They got DQ'd, so there was no third and fourth place guy that year at 125.
00:53:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i mean look, if when if you play back the tape, you can tell how it's like, ah, maybe Basita wasn't really throwing punches. Maybe it was just like really hard clubs. You can't really tell. ah But but ferrari Ferrari turned it into an MMA fight.
00:53:44
Cokeley Brothers
He gets disqualified. I don't really know what they do at that point. Like, does he still have any points counted towards the team score? Or does it all just go to zero?
00:53:51
Ryne
No, no. If you get, if you get, yeah, if you get DQ, they take all your team points.
00:53:56
Cokeley Brothers
Does he still get sixth place?
00:53:58
Ryne
No, no sixth place.
00:54:00
Cokeley Brothers
So there's just no sixth.
00:54:02
Ryne
yeah Let me tell you about this time in 2022 at the NJCAA national championship at 125. Okay. There's this kid, you remember what happened in that story, Sam?
00:54:11
Cokeley Brothers
Between Jet Strickenberger and Nico Aguilar. Yeah.
00:54:16
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All right. Well, that's clear.
00:54:21
Cokeley Brothers
They both threw punches and they both got disqualified.
00:54:23
Ryne
Yeah, and needs neither of them placed. No third or fourth place guy.
00:54:28
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay.
00:54:29
Ryne
First, second, fifth, sixth.
00:54:30
Cokeley Brothers
And no points.
00:54:31
Ryne
No, no points for either of them. Clackamas basically had it in the bag at that point, and then they gave us a shot. We almost came back and beat them because of that.
00:54:42
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. Okay. ah Man, I wish I had like tracked team race implication because that would probably take Nebraska from like a trophy team to seventh or something like that.
00:54:55
Cokeley Brothers
ah But then we move on to the bottom side. Tegadali takes out Isaac Trumbull and then loses to younger Bastida. Bastida finally gets his chip. Isaac Trumbull takes third, taking out Conor Doucette for third place.
00:55:07
Cokeley Brothers
ah Like I said earlier, AJ Ferrari falls all the way down to sixth. No trophy for him. Nick Feldman takes the fifth place and takes the lead in the series. ah And
00:55:17
Reese
Oh, it's insane. Sorry. Who beats Trumbull?
00:55:26
Cokeley Brothers
And Ben Keeter beats Christian Carroll loses first round.
00:55:26
Reese
Why not have picked Christian Carroll beat him?
00:55:33
Reese
So you you think it's more than sickness for him?
00:55:38
Cokeley Brothers
And he had ah he had a big old knee brace on after his first loss.
00:55:42
Reese
so you think they're lying about the sickness thing?
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
Who?
00:55:45
Reese
They said to you it's really sick.
00:55:46
Cokeley Brothers
Who? Who?
00:55:47
Reese
Wyoming.
00:55:50
Cokeley Brothers
Could have been both.
00:55:54
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see. Here's what I know.
00:55:55
Reese
I'm
00:55:56
Cokeley Brothers
I need Christian Carroll on the backside in that spot to take out Cole Mirasola and then to lose to Devin Dawson. So that's what I have. And Ben Keeter beats Devin Dawson for seventh.
00:56:04
Reese
going to... I'm going to just decide thing. i got a weird feeling, back to 25, got a weird feeling that Kale Lordson is going have a good tournament.
00:56:17
Cokeley Brothers
He came alive.
00:56:18
Reese
He had good Big Tens, right?
00:56:22
Cokeley Brothers
He came alive a little bit. And so, you know what, Reese? Who does he have?
00:56:31
Cokeley Brothers
Ooh, Dean Peterson, man, dude.
00:56:31
Reese
He's from Nebraska, right? He's a Nebraska boy.
00:56:35
Cokeley Brothers
I think so. But like,
00:56:40
Cokeley Brothers
that's a tough one, man. I'm not an Iowa fan, but I can't in good conscience have Dean Peterson lose round one.
00:56:49
Reese
I got him losing to Dean Peterson round one, then beating Aiden Smith in a rematch. But then he's got Nico Provo, and I don't know what to do with that one.
00:57:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, probably doesn't win that one.
00:57:06
Cokeley Brothers
Nah, I mean, he can he can get a win or two in there, but that's really it.
00:57:06
Reese
Yeah.
00:57:12
Reese
Which is good. That's good for Freckham.
00:57:12
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:57:15
Cokeley Brothers
That's our second half preview.
00:57:21
Ryne
I pick younger Bastida.
00:57:27
Cokeley Brothers
Breeze?
00:57:29
Reese
Who am I picking?
00:57:32
Cokeley Brothers
Just give me a give me a vibe check.
00:57:33
Reese
i mean, I'll probably end up picking Bastida. I'm not on the Trumbull train. Suddenly everybody thinks Trumbull's the guy to beat. I have no idea why. Bastida hasn't lost this year, so I'm picking Bastida.
00:57:46
Reese
I'm picking Bastida.
00:57:48
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, i can so i can imagine it just because ah Trumbull looked really good against Nick Feldman.
00:57:59
Reese
Yeah.
00:57:59
Cokeley Brothers
And I think people are kind of using that as a centralized data point.
00:58:00
Reese
oh
00:58:04
Reese
What about Bastida has made them think that he...
00:58:08
Cokeley Brothers
Everybody says, oh well, he falls apart in March.
00:58:08
Reese
that He and
00:58:10
Cokeley Brothers
you He starts to, he starts to, he doesn't really, things aren't really panned out for him by the time the CAAs come around.
00:58:15
Reese
had one bad match.
00:58:15
Ryne
His hand breaks.
00:58:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:58:21
Ryne
His hand breaks.
00:58:23
Reese
One bad match.
00:58:23
Cokeley Brothers
It was pinky or fingy.
00:58:24
Reese
One bad 12 seconds or whatever it was.
00:58:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:58:32
Cokeley Brothers
He'll be all right.
00:58:35
Ryne
So who's who's winning the team race?
00:58:35
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:58:38
Cokeley Brothers
Penn State by honestly, actually in my bracket. Yeah. In my brackets, Penn State still wins.
00:58:46
Cokeley Brothers
I think they're the only team with two champs.
00:58:46
Reese
But no record. No new records.
00:58:48
Cokeley Brothers
or No, no new record.
00:58:51
Reese
So, Kale?
00:58:51
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no, no, no. no no They have eight All-Americans, two champs.
00:58:54
Reese
Is Kale regressing?
00:58:58
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:58:59
Reese
If he doesn't break the record this year, is he regressing? Do we call that regression?
00:59:04
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah, I would say that he's coming down the mountain.
00:59:04
Ryne
Technically, right
00:59:06
Reese
Yeah.
00:59:08
Ryne
by definition of the word.
00:59:12
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, i have so I have Oklahoma State getting two champs, Penn State getting two champs, Ohio State gets one, Iowa State gets one, and Cornell gets three.
00:59:13
Reese
So, I think...
00:59:26
Cokeley Brothers
That is fun. Oh, and Iowa gets one with Ferrari. Iowa gets two with Ayala. Dude, I got a guy.
00:59:33
Reese
Why do you have Ferrari winning?
00:59:35
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:59:36
Reese
Why you have Ferrari winning?
00:59:40
Cokeley Brothers
Because I said at the I said earlier this year that he wouldn't get taken down and now I have to follow through and like, i don't know.
00:59:46
Reese
So that's giving you bias.
00:59:47
Cokeley Brothers
It's lame to be like i took third place, but he didn't get taken down. And so.
00:59:54
Reese
He's lost three times and still hasn't gotten taken down yet.
00:59:57
Cokeley Brothers
I know it's disgusting.
00:59:58
Reese
Who else hasn't been taken down? Vega, Vendivino,
01:00:02
Cokeley Brothers
Sergio Vega, Ben DeVino, Jax Forrest.
01:00:05
Reese
is that it?
01:00:09
Reese
Forrest hasn't been taken down?
01:00:10
Cokeley Brothers
ah I don't think so.
01:00:12
Ryne
Marcus Blaze.
01:00:15
Cokeley Brothers
ah Blaze, I think, gave up a takedown to Willishell.
01:00:20
Reese
Marcus plays has been taken down.
01:00:20
Cokeley Brothers
I think.
01:00:25
Cokeley Brothers
I think he gave up a takedown to somebody.
01:00:29
Cokeley Brothers
Bars given one up. Mezen Brink has given up one PJ Duke is given up a takedown. I think to somebody. Yeah, Brandon Cannon Jesse Mendes has gotten taken down by a better mean kid ah
01:00:42
Reese
like everybody's been taken down. everybody else
01:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
Luke little got taken down by his teammate Yeah Pretty much everybody but them dang true freshmen who'd be looking so good.
01:00:57
Reese
The true freshies.
01:01:00
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, we haven't had an undefeated true freshman national champ since like 1947. Shout
01:01:07
Cokeley Brothers
out to Cornell Kevin for that stat.
01:01:11
Reese
Yeah, but it'll probably have an asterisk.
01:01:15
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
01:01:16
Ryne
Bye.
01:01:17
Reese
I don't know. 13 matches. He'll have 18 matches by the end of the year.
01:01:28
Reese
you talking about Jax Forrest?
01:01:28
Cokeley Brothers
Screw him. Yeah. I mean, it could it could be Jax or Sergio, but ah
01:01:32
Reese
I guess if he write if he gets through, if he makes it, wait, Jax has been taken down.
01:01:38
Cokeley Brothers
I'm saying undefeated. Oh, who took down Jax?
01:01:42
Reese
twice.
01:01:44
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, three times.
01:01:45
Reese
Three times, yeah.
01:01:47
Cokeley Brothers
You're right. Forgot about that match. But he's undefeated. It was the stat.
01:01:53
Reese
Oh, that's talking about? Undefeated?
01:01:55
Cokeley Brothers
haven't had an undefeated freshman.
01:01:55
Reese
True freshman?
01:01:57
Cokeley Brothers
yeah True freshman national champ since 1947.
01:01:59
Reese
I guess.
01:02:02
Reese
I mean, it's really, he's really going to have two matches. Two matches.
01:02:08
Reese
Three, counting the duel with Seidel. He'll have three matches that really, like, you know, that'll actually have wrestled someone high caliber.
01:02:19
Cokeley Brothers
Sergio Vega is another option.
01:02:22
Reese
What?
01:02:23
Cokeley Brothers
Sergio Vega is another option.
01:02:26
Reese
Yeah, Sergio. Dude, Sergio, yeah, if he does it that's amazing.
01:02:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And I'm guessing Hodge is going to go to Mezenbrink or Mendez. Those are the two front runners.
01:02:41
Ryne
Why not Barr?
01:02:43
Cokeley Brothers
Because most of the Penn State vote will go to Mezenbrink.
01:02:44
Reese
think Mendez.
01:02:47
Cokeley Brothers
And like, I'm down to make...
01:02:49
Reese
Maybe it'll be split between Messon, Brink, and Bars.
01:02:51
Cokeley Brothers
I know. i am down to make a campaign push for Josh Barr to split the Penn State vote between those two so that Mendez can win.
01:03:00
Reese
That's a good idea. Hey, I got one question.
01:03:01
Ryne
i just think, I think Barr might might just be the best guy for the for the award.
01:03:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And then a lot of...
01:03:07
Cokeley Brothers
Cool. Good, good, cool nerd. Reese, what's your question?
01:03:14
Reese
Another totally unrelated question to what we're talking about right now. Styles, Valencia, who do you pick? Who do I pick? Styles or Valencia?
01:03:21
Cokeley Brothers
Styles.
01:03:23
Reese
Really?
01:03:23
Cokeley Brothers
Styles. Styles.
01:03:26
Reese
What about block joy? Well, you're gonna say joy.
01:03:29
Cokeley Brothers
Joy.
01:03:29
Reese
Ryan, what do you think? Ryder, Blocker, Jackson, Joy.
01:03:34
Ryne
Joy.
01:03:36
Reese
right.
01:03:38
Cokeley Brothers
Joy Boy.
01:03:38
Reese
Joy it is.
01:03:43
Reese
I'm not sold on the Styles Valencia just quite yet.
01:03:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Anything else, boys? We've just crossed over an hour. Don't need to make it too long.
01:03:56
Reese
I think we did it.
01:03:57
Cokeley Brothers
All right. Thank you everybody for listening to another episode of the barn session. We've done this for a long time and we're going to keep doing it forever. So keep enjoying, have a good one.
01:04:12
Cokeley Brothers
And thank you. And goodbye.
01:04:14
Reese
Bye-bye.