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Speaker: Welcome back to the barn session, everybody. Just two of us. but What? What's so funny? That was so loud. Welcome back.
Speaker: you Right before he pressed play, he was all quiet. He was he was talking like this. i'll pull I'll pull it back a little. No, wait. No, you're right, because my volume probably is pretty high. Welcome back to the barn session, everybody. It's just two of us today.
Speaker: Reese will be joining us later. now. And we're going about some wrestling. We actually, we have a lot to talk about because we have not been keeping up with recordings. And so we got to play a little bit of catch up here.
Speaker: Yeah, we we into god we had, we had plans to do an episode, last weekend, but things happen. Life is complicated.
Speaker: Life is complicated. It just didn't, It didn't work out. you know i knew It was going to be a good one. It was going to be all of us in the same location. and Everybody loves that. Everybody loves when we're all in the same spot.
Speaker: I think so. It would have been a It's happened once. It's right. It'll happen again. Do you think we can do one? We'll be all in the same location here in a couple weeks. i think we can do one then. Yes. Probably. Probably should.
Speaker: We should try. But yeah, we we missed, ah I mean, honestly, we missed previewing and recapping U20 Worlds. So we'll we'll do it we'll do a recap of it when Reese gets back.
Speaker: But for now, we can talk about some real American freestyle. There's 10 matches. They go down this weekend in Cleveland or on the Fox Nation streaming service, whatever it is.
Speaker: ah if you are not going to be in Cleveland like like I am and like Ryan is and like Reese is. So we will be watching it from the from the air.
Speaker: And some of these matches are interesting. Some of them are interesting for other reasons. That's how I see it. Yeah, was going say they're all like, and they all have like interest, I think.
Speaker: Nah, disagree. You don't think so? Mm-mm. Like, I don't, this is not me saying I'm not interested in women's wrestling, but I think Sarah Hildebrandt and Kennedy Blades are going to torch their opponents.
Speaker: I thought Hildebrandt had a pretty decent opponent. Well, i know Kennedy Blades, her girl, her opponent is like a two-time Pan Am medalist, and that's it.
Speaker: And Sarah Hildebrandt's opponent, I don't think has ever medaled at Worlds. Uh, I thought she was decent though, but I could be wrong.
Speaker: I might've, might've miscalculated my research, but let's get, let's get into it. Let's talk about it. Let's start from the the match order. So let's start from the top and that's going Nathan Thomas, Selvers, Matt Ramos. And this is a relatively interesting match.
Speaker: Yeah. Uh, Matt Ramos just took, uh, shoot fifth or fourth.
Speaker: uh, fourth, right? He got pinned. Yeah. For third, he got pinned for third. couldn't remember if he lost a little on the conces or for third little doll, the ventresca and then Ramos beat somebody else trying to think who was on the other. Sheldon Seymour. Oh, Seymour.
Speaker: I should have known that. don't know why I forgot. So, um, but yeah, so, and Nathan Tomasello, he's been on the senior level for a while. He's, Made the finals of world team trials at 61 kilos, which is close to what this weight is. And yeah, I think Nathan Thomas is probably closer towards the end of his career and Matt Ramos, if he's going to be sticking around rest and freestyle for a while, this will be a pretty good test for him.
Speaker: They both have dubs over Spencer Lee. This is also true. And folk style. Yes.
Speaker: Yeah, I think I think I'd lean Matt Ramos for this one. Really? Yeah.
Speaker: Why? Because you think just because NATO's at the tail end of his career, you think Ramos is kind of entering his prime? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. what I don't know what Ramos, what his career is is going to look like, but Yeah, Nathan Tomasello to me is a guy that's kind of been little a little wishy-washy in terms of does he actually want to compete at the senior level? Because I feel like we've heard that he was done wrestling in the past, or and he's he's moved around the country a fair amount.
Speaker: so I think a lot of that was due to injuries, and you know and then when his body got back to feeling good. I mean, this happens all the time with guys, is they start to feel good again, and And then they're like, you know what? I'm not done. I got more to give. and Yeah. who Who beat him at the open?
Speaker: This year? i don't know. He, I think it might've been, was it Jack's? I think about it might've been now.
Speaker: Maybe it was, maybe he was blaze. I got it.
Speaker: Okay. We're back. We had to fix some technical difficulties. Like always, every episode, But yeah, Marcus Blaze beat Nathan thomaseler Tomasello in the quarters?
Speaker: Yes, quarters. yeah Two to one. or
Speaker: Two. One more time? Two to one. Two to one, really? Close. That's not bad. but How did he do on the backside?
Speaker: Beat Megalutis six to three. And then it says he was DQ'd against DeSanto. Really? Really?
Speaker: And I can't play the match. That might have been like ah I'm not weighing in for day two situation.
Speaker: Okay. I'm going to guess that that's what happened.
Speaker: you probably Okay. I'm going roll with Matt Ramos against my instincts, against my gut of and my obligation to never cheer on somebody from Purdue.
Speaker: but he's probably the guy who's going to win. so I've got my money on Tommy. Tommy Sello. Okay. Match number two. Probably the second most, yeah probably the most interesting match of the night ah is going to be Yanni Diakmahalas versus Bottering Puna.
Speaker: This will be the third time that we've these two. Yeah. This will be the the second third third time we've seen these two wrestle. wrestled to beat the streets in 2019, and then they wrestled at Worlds in 2022. Yanni won both matches. The first one was back and forth and contentious, and the second one, Yanni won ten zero tech ball.
Speaker: So, probably going to see more of that. um Bajrink's been off the mat for a while. I believe there was some sort of doping violation going on for him. was like, why hasn't he wrestled?
Speaker: I mean, i think I think he also was... thought he's soft or tired, to be honest. Yeah, but he's like protesting against the Federation, the Wrestling Federation in India, maybe, or something like that. i feel like I heard that, but that could be total totally fabricated. i have no idea.
Speaker: But, uh, and I think honestly, might've been a situation where he was like told to get, take a drug test. And he was like, no, I'm protesting you guys. and And then he was suspended. I don't know. I have no idea. I, what I knew, what I do know is that we haven't seen him wrestle for a while. Uh, but he's an Olympic bronze medalist. He's, he's good.
Speaker: So there should be an interesting match. It's at 155 pounds. So both of them are, are going to be pretty healthy. Not too much weight to cut, but I mean, I take Yanni maybe by tech.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about tech fall just because don't know. I mean, Yanni, do you really think he's going to be at 100?
Speaker: Why not? He's been battling stuff, know, for a long time. Yeah. I mean, he told me ah things are good.
Speaker: they I mean, here I don't even think he took that much time off. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker: I trust. Otherwise, i don't don't even I don't know if he would be taking this match this this early. so I trust. Yeah. I take Yanni, and I take him by tech.
Speaker: Moving on. 155, Lance Palmer, Austin Gomez. This is one of those one of those weird ones. I don't know what to think of this. Gomez by a million. Yeah.
Speaker: Like...
Speaker: I mean... I don't see any way that Lance Palmer can make this match interesting.
Speaker: No. Just, I mean, what year was the last time he wrestled? Has he wrestled the last decade?
Speaker: i don't think so. 2015? twenty fifteen No.
Speaker: mean his last college match was 2010, I think. Okay. Yeah. and think okay yeah he he yeah I don't think he, I don't know know if he wrestled on the senior level. I think his last match was, was in 2010.
Speaker: Maybe. Against Brent Metcalf in the NCAA finals. Yeah. So he did do a grappling match with Richie Lewis not that long ago and Richie beat him. Yeah. all right. Here's the deal.
Speaker: If Lance Palmer makes this interesting, then he should come back to the mat. He should make a return. If not, If Austin Gomez that does what Austin Gomez does to him, then we need to evaluate. He's a deal. with you He's as old, if not older, than Jordan Burrows.
Speaker: Right. I think we need to evaluate who we who we include and in the premier wrestling league. You got Darian Caldwell in there too.
Speaker: ah that's we'll get there. Whenever we get there, we'll get there. So yeah, Austin Gomez. Moving on. 175, Jason Nolfe versus Evan Wick. Jason Nolfe, who was previously retired, but made the Olympic Trials Finals at 74 kilos last year. Evan Wick made Final X at 79 kilos this year.
Speaker: i think this one can be this one can be a little fun, but Jason Nolfe probably has just too much in the tank for Evan Wick.
Speaker: been over a year for Nolf. We'll see. Yeah, he's been... he's I think he's running some sort of wrestling club down in Texas, and he's he's competing in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He's got the whole... ah He's pretty in deep with the ocean athletes. Ocean athletes. or ocean athletes Yeah, too.
Speaker: His baby. yeah so i mean he's He's been on the mat. And Ebenwick's good, but Jason Nolfe has a lot of bullets in the chamber. a lot.
Speaker: Yeah. So I'll take Nolfe. Take Nolfe. Say eight to two.
Speaker: And I don't think as far as I know, I think the rules are just flat freestyle. I don't think there's any. don't think there's any change to the rules. Yes. ah Oh, yes. Yes. Criteria is first.
Speaker: First point scored, not last. Yeah. And that's the only criteria. Yeah. No, it's not best, worst, last. It's first. Yep. Yep.
Speaker: So, forgot about that part. Okay, 120, Sarah Hildebrandt versus Zeltson Hernandez. It's an Olympic champ.
Speaker: Yeah. She's probably going to win She should win it. She should win it. She hasn't wrestled for a year, but she should win this match. She should win that match.
Speaker: 145 Real Woods versus Darian Caldwell. This should be Real Woods. Bloodbath is what it should be. Yeah, Darian Caldwell. His last match was against Luke Pletcher in 2020.
Speaker: And it was an 8-2 loss, I think. Something like that. Something like that. Since he graduated college. So he won a national title in 2009. ah two thousand and nine um beating Brett Metcalf in the finals.
Speaker: ah huh ah Redshirted or injury or ah medical redshirted the next year and then came back 11 was the one seed, but like, i don't think he was ever fully healthy because he ended up injury defaulting out of the tournament and got me by Gerholas on the front side and injury defaulted.
Speaker: And that was the year like he was the one seed. And I think Dake was
Speaker: four. ah happened to Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right. Right. That sounds right. That was the year he wrestled Molinaro. So, yeah, he was the four seed. but And we're and this is we're talking about, man, something that helped Kyle Dake win a ah national title.
Speaker: Darian Caldwell going roller skating. Right? Isn't that what hurt him? Yeah. Allegedly? I mean, that is what hurt him, yes. But, like... I mean... It's not the reason that Dake won.
Speaker: Even a fully healthy Darian Caldwell at that time, I do not think beats Kyle Dake. Not at the national tournament. it if Viewers, if you want a treat, go look at some some young Kyle Dake wrestling.
Speaker: it's He's good now, but the things that he was able to do with a...
Speaker: just ah with an un unimpaired body, he was he was crazy. He was crazy good. ah But yeah, Give Me Real Woods by Since Darian Caldwell graduated college, he has he got beat by... think at the last chance qualifier for Olympic trials, he got beat by ah Jason Sertzitz and then Destin McCauley.
Speaker: at that tournament. He got pinned at Midlands by Rylan Lubeck.
Speaker: And then,
Speaker: who else beat him? And then, um I think there's ah two more after, I think there's one match in between that one and the Pletcher match. I can't remember though, but he, I mean, he seriously, he hasn't won a match. He hasn't won a wrestling match a long time.
Speaker: Yeah. Oh, it's it was Jordan. You know,
Speaker: At the very first, who's number one?
Speaker: Oh, they did they were they like they were the team captains and they wrestled other at the end. Yeah, the ultimate fighter whatever. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. So, yeah. I'm curious because. He is. You might. Old too. So. Yeah. You might be asking. What is the point of doing this?
Speaker: i think Because. the the intrigue in the actual match should be pretty low. There's not really much of a way for Darian Caldwell to have a shot in this match, at least on paper.
Speaker: One of the things that was talked about and was promoted for Real American Freestyle was following the storylines of these guys. I don't know about you.
Speaker: i haven't seen a lot about that. Or am I just not looking?
Speaker: Yeah. I mean, i haven't seen any of it. I guess maybe maybe we'll see what what comes to us at the event, if it's going to be like a... There's been some back and forth between Gomez and Palmer online I've seen. that's Yeah, that's really it.
Speaker: And then I think think Woods and Darian had some Instagram comments between each other. Yeah. I mean, Kyle Dake and Dean Hammond aren't going to be trash-talking each other. That's that's not what we're but we need to lean on and for this, so...
Speaker: And that's, i mean at least for Dean, that's like not in Dean's character. No. Kyle Dick only really does it if it's Jordan Burroughs.
Speaker: I don't think that would happen anymore either. So, yeah, that's that's an interesting element to me. I i mean, we'll see. they've They've already got plans in the works for their next event and what that's going to look like and how it's going to be better. But Their social media game plan has is kind of something to look at for a while.
Speaker: But anyway, moving on. 190 pounds. Kyle Dake versus Dean Hammity. At 190 pounds. Yeah, that's just bad for Dean.
Speaker: It's not good. Kyle Dake doesn't get up to 190. So why are they wrestling at 190? Because if neither of them get up to 190, you really don't think Kyle Dake gets up to 190? Dude, what I was told but i was told whenever he's wrestling 86 kilos is that he gets up to like 184. And that's it.
Speaker: Okay. And that's six pounds below 190, right? But that was how long ago? I was told this for 2016. twenty sixteen And then he was underweight for the U.S. Open this year. I know. Okay. My point is his whole goal has been to keep putting weight on. I think he's probably touched 190 then. I mean, I would think has. It's not hard. I've done it. I initially, because what I was hearing was from people who I was like, how do they really know what Kyle Dake was weighing at 2016 trials?
Speaker: And then I reached out to some people that would know, and they're like, yeah. this like he said one thing and was probably a couple pounds more but either way I mean maybe maybe so but and and then you would say Kyle Dake agreed to 190 and they found him whenever he was going to wrestle Aiden Sinclair and Aiden Sinclair probably weighs 200 pounds so that makes sense ah so Kyle Dake is like I agreed to a fight to a wrestling match at 190 so they got to find somebody who's going to roll with that and Dean Hamity said I'll wrestle
Speaker: I don't care what weight. And maybe he gets a little bit heavier, but he he I don't think Dean Hammity is getting too close to wide. I can't imagine Dean really being that much bigger than 180. I don't know.
Speaker: He's got a frame, and he cuts weight. Well, 16 over 174 is He's probably like
Speaker: i Maybe. he just doesn't i look I picture them in my mind and Dean to me is smaller than Kyle Dake. They wrestled a weight class apart this is this summer. so Kyle Dake by chest wrap or something. i don't know Four points.
Speaker: I don't know. Dean Hammity might be able to finish. him i and Dean Hammity is not going to finish any shots. Four points. Kyle Dake win. 4,000 points for Kyle Dake. Kennedy Blades versus Alejandra Rivera.
Speaker: Kennedy Blades. Kennedy Blades. By suplex. Oh, dude. That was just sick. Now, that they might be saying Kennedy. We need this for promotional material moving forward.
Speaker: You're going to need to find going to have Izzy in her corner. Well, I don't know. He probably won't be cornering Willie. He'll probably be behind the mic. Did you Well, no. there's comment The commentary is... ah Willie? Sonnen.
Speaker: No. no No. Sonnen. ah Bubba Jenkins. Anthony Robles. Wow. Wow. I believe. I believe.
Speaker: What a spectrum of characters. I... Because you're going... We got Robles who will be you know the pinnacle of professional.
Speaker: You got Bubba... You got Chael Sonnen who's going to be... All over the place. Probably not super professional. you know And then Bubba J is going to be somewhere in the middle.
Speaker: Probably leaning more towards Chael, I'd imagine. but Yeah. Let me see if I can find what I'm talking about.
Speaker: Chael Sonnen is a commentator analyst.
Speaker: itda
Speaker: Maybe I'm... Oh, wait, no. Kurt Angle is involved. So maybe maybe it's not Robles. Maybe it's Bubba, Kurt.
Speaker: Chael. What do you know? i don't remember, dude. I don't remember.
Speaker: i don't know. Maybe I pulled Robles from no nothing. I don't know. Okay. let's Let's get through these next two matches. 205, Bo Nickel versus Jacob Cardenas in the co-main event of the night, I guess. I don't know if this is really the way they picked the order, but This match,
Speaker: personally, I'm pulling for Jacob a lot for a lot of reasons. so Also, people were talking about him wrestling for Cuba. Not happening. Why not?
Speaker: He's sticking with the States. I don't know. He wants to wrestle for the U.S. I don't know if he... yeah There might be a situation where, because of his U23 medals, he like it would cost money. I don't know.
Speaker: ah and he's not, he and Cuba are not super interested. Crazy. Cuba doesn't want to put up a lot of money. Weird. ah So Cuba wants him to wrestle, but they all but they don't want to put in the work.
Speaker: I'm not necessarily saying that. I don't know what, I'm total speculation here. But also Cuba, Cuba's not a ah country known for their wealth. This is speculation? I thought you heard something. I heard that people were, the the rumor mill was talking about Cardenas going to Cuba.
Speaker: Now, why he would or wouldn't, total speculation. I have no idea. okay I texted him. He's like, yeah, I don't know why people are saying that. I said, okay.
Speaker: Left it at that. But yeah, Bo Nickel, Jacob Cardenas. I'm going to go on the limb and say Cardenas wins this match. Bo's been off the mat. He
Speaker: probably isn't ready to actually wrestle a real match. And Jacob Cardenas has some pretty mean double legs. So
Speaker: going to go with Jacob. Ryan, what's happening? Is Reese texting you? No, no, sorry. um Yeah, yeah. I got Cardenas.
Speaker: Okay. Speaking Reese, what where is he? I don't know. i am I was actually, that is what I was going going to do is text him. So hold on. Okay. I'll talk about the Final match of the night.
Speaker: Final of 10 matches. It is Wyatt Hendrickson versus Egypt's Mostafa Elders, who is an Olympian from last year. This... Yeah, but it's going to be a bloodbath.
Speaker: I think this is going be a pretty ah pretty one-sided match. think Wyatt Hendrickson wins this pretty pretty handedly. This a tune-up for Wyatt and for Real, honestly. It's a tune-up for... For Wyatt, for Real, for for Gomez, and...
Speaker: Blades? Blades. Yes. And Blades.
Speaker: All four of those people are going to Worlds. And this is going to be what will be two weeks out from Worlds at this point. So this is basically going to be a paid simulation match.
Speaker: And I think Wyatt Hendrickson goes out there and kind of smashes this guy. So and you calling him? Yeah.
Speaker: So yeah, that's Real American Freestyle. Again, August 30th, 7 p.m. Eastern. It'll be in Cleveland if you're going to go. um recommend it because that's the best way to support it.
Speaker: If not, stream it on Fox. Use code RAF whenever you sign up so that they know who sent you. And... think
Speaker: I don't think he's coming tonight. Whatever. It'll just be the two of us. It's fine. Just the two of us. We can make it if we try.
Speaker: All right. Then I'm going to pull up U20s.
Speaker: Sorry, Riley Tubbs was asking me what the Packers would have to give up in order to trade the Cowboys for Micah Parsons because Micah Parsons wants out.
Speaker: I was like, i don't know. some Some picks, some players, maybe some ice cream for Jerry Jones. don't
Speaker: I want to start this conversation off with a stat that is impressive on one hand and pretty disappointing on another.
Speaker: Are you ready? I'm ready.
Speaker: The men's freestyle team lost as many matches for team USA lost as many matches, which was six as the Greco Roman team one, which was six.
Speaker: Tough showing for the for the Greco-Roman team. Outstanding showing for the men's freestyle team. And the women? Somewhere in the middle.
Speaker: They took third or fourth? I think they took fourth. Good luck trying to find the team score.
Speaker: What? No, you can find it on www.org. That's where I go. That's right.
Speaker: Because I'm smart, right? I'm not some stupid dummy who uses Flow Wrestling for everything.
Speaker: They got me. Take that. They got me. Take that Flow. They got me hooked. You guys are good for some stuff, but not for everything. They hooked.
Speaker: ah Here, I'll pull it up. Team rankings.
Speaker: Women's wrestling. We took fourth. Japan, India, China, United States. we definitely could have We definitely could have beaten China. I think India would have would have been too much of an ask.
Speaker: And Japan definitely would have been too much of an ask. We were nine points behind China. There were definitely two medal matches that we could have won. ah some points Some points were definitely left on the table from our women.
Speaker: But that's okay. That's okay. Let's talk about the men's freestyle team. We had five champs, a runner-up,
Speaker: Two bronze medalists, a fifth place. An 11th. And a DNP. 11th. eleventh Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11th place, Anthony Knox. Won a match, lost a match. and he didn't have He doesn't have the freestyle feel yet.
Speaker: His weight was kind of tough, too. The dude he lost was good, and then the dude that got the dude that beat him in the semis was also good. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, and I just don't think... I just don't think Knox quite has that freestyle acumen that you need for bracket in a tournament like this. You think so i don't think? No, I think Knox is more of a folk style guy.
Speaker: Yeah, he lost to Itanov from Kazakhstan who
Speaker: teched his guy for bronze. And I believe it's the Russian beat that beat the Kazakh in the semis also took first. So nice.
Speaker: Was he the one? Was he the one that hit the arm lace? The head and arm lace? Maybe. I don't know. Chechen railways. cheese was and That was dirty.
Speaker: It was disgusting. Was discussed is that at U20s? I think it was. or not you It was at U20s. It was at U20s. But I can't. It might not have been 57 kilos. I don't know. I feel like it was 65. You could be right.
Speaker: Either way. 61. sixty one Move up from there. Yeah, 61 kilos. Marcus Blaze. Tech fall. Disqualification. Tech fall. Tech fall. Tech fall. Absolutely ran through this field.
Speaker: and And the disqualification was the closest match. He was winning when the guy cautioned cautioned out by giving him what I what i called an Armenian neck massage.
Speaker: I don't know if you saw it, but basically just slapped the shit out of his neck at the very end with like eight seconds left. this is This is something that I noticed overall.
Speaker: Team USA, i don't know if it's just the guys in particular on the team or if there was something that Jaden Cox talked to them about. some of the Some of the most collected group of 20-year-olds I've ever seen.
Speaker: They didn't get hyped. They didn't get too upset. They didn't get too upset. They didn't get too emotional. I mean, I think the biggest celebration was Luke Stanich winning his first match, from what I could tell.
Speaker: Which was an exciting match, but like, we had five champs and all of them were kind of just like, yeah. And that was it. Mad Max was hyped. Yeah, when he won in the semis and and, but he even still, like, it was, it still felt like it was kind of just a simmer and not like a boil. Nothing was boiling over, you know?
Speaker: Yeah. I don't know. They'll see in the way some of the other countries, like their, their representatives, the way they reacted and when they lost, I get it.
Speaker: It's, you put everything into it and then you lose and that sucks, but it was also. Dude, that's how the, that's how it has always been at every, at every level. It just, if I guess it felt excessive this, at this event. i think so.
Speaker: Hmm.
Speaker: or more than i um then I'm used to seeing. Here's what I think. I could be wrong. When you know, when you're going into a tournament and you know that you're the best team there, that ever every guy on the team is a dog, and you know, youre youre yeah you read i'm I'm a dog and I'm wrestling with other dogs, it's like, it's easy to kind of keep keep those emotions a little bit leveled, you know?
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fair. And I think that that was part of it. Right, because Marcus Blaze had been there before. PJ Duke has been there before.
Speaker: and Luke Stanich, this was his first time, but he, I mean, he clearly, he had a lot to prove and he wanted to prove it. ah But also, like, Will Henkel came up, came really out of nowhere and navigated ah an insanely tough bracket.
Speaker: And also... I'm going to stop you there. I've been a critic of Will. yeah Or mainly of his commitment to Penn State and their already limited room and around those weights.
Speaker: Yeah. Maybe I need a backtrack. Maybe me Will's going to be the guy. He'll be the guy after Haynes, I think, at 174.
Speaker: I just think he's going to be bigger. I just feel like he's going to be an 84 pound. I might be wrong. But anyway, what I'm trying to say is that the dude like who was basically shot down by everyone.
Speaker: No one really was giving this dude a shot. No. But like if you actually went and watched his matches... At the open at you at you 20s or even honestly in the past, like you so could see this kid's like, oh, this kid's got it. He's coming.
Speaker: He's coming. And then he finally he was able to do you know put it all together. I mean, I think the one time I was I was kind of like, ah maybe I'm, you know, maybe i I'm a little bit too high on this kid. It was when he got beaten the Fargo finals by skulls.
Speaker: By brand skulls. But after that, he's been caught fire. Yeah. yeah
Speaker: Yeah. and And so he beat, he beat, uh, I got a 50, 50 shot here. He he beat Bo Mantenona in the finals of trials.
Speaker: Maybe. Yes. Oh, okay. Reese. Okay. receive a test yes yeah You coming? um making fun know That's all right. If you got to skip out tonight, and then skip out, bud.
Speaker: We're already 30, actually 45 minutes into this bad boy. Yeah, was kind of feeling that situation. Yeah, herere go you're all good. You're all good. We've pretty much decided it was just going to be a two-man show tonight.
Speaker: Okay. Tell the viewers you're sorry, though. Right now? Right now. All right. Say, I'm sorry, viewers.
Speaker: Say it. like so No, say it. All right. Enjoy your food.
Speaker: All right. Yeah. We'll handle. He's, he's pretty legit and he could definitely fill into a higher weight class than 79 kilos and one 74. But dude,
Speaker: but dude he was in some battles for sure. I mean, he had one match where he got a 10 out tech, but he, he won eight, five in his first match, 11 to five in the quarters and five to four and in the semis against, uh, uh, a meet from India who ah India is just known at this point for being the country. That's not necessarily going to have any technical superiority, like any, any, they're not going to have some,
Speaker: crazy skill, but they are going to make you wrestle 100% for six minutes. So Wilhenko was able to to navigate all of these ah all of these challenges.
Speaker: And then he had this guy from Iran in the finals who there were two Iranians that were being hyped up a lot by Iranian Twitter and just from their past achievements. I think i think both of these guys were senior Asian gold medalists.
Speaker: I think, or at least one of them was. And the other one had like won ranking series event, something like that. Will Henkel lost eight to six to, the to Madi Yousefi from Iran. So, and the other one lost to U S rep, but we'll get to that.
Speaker: And I mean, yeah, I think we're, I think we're in pretty good shape. was going to come back next year and probably win it.
Speaker: Yeah, as long as he's he should be eligible. Yeah.
Speaker: Should be. Might have two more years. I think he was at U20 trials in 2023. He was eligible for that year. U17.
Speaker: You can do that? Yeah. Really? Yes. Yes. I didn't know you could do both. I thought of but i thought i thought it was a thing where I don't have to like get up get a waiver signed or something like that. don't think you do anymore.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay. I mean, Villasenor, he was at U-17s and then made the finals at U-20s. Ignacio, that's right. So anyway, 65 kilos.
Speaker: Yeah, 65 kilos. Like we said, Marcus plays Smash 61. ah Luke Stanich, 65 kilos, wins it. He gives up some points, but he doesn't give up any matches. He's down 8-0 in the opening round to Abdullah Toprak, a guy that that we we've seen in the past. Two years ago, he wrestled Jesse Mendez, I think in the semis at U20 Worlds or quarters, something like that. And it was a tough match.
Speaker: ah So I knew that this guy was going to be a serious challenge for Stanich. And he almost took Stanich's entire tournament and just ended it in one match basically was was probably just a little bit more effort on a gut wrench away from it being a tech for him but that didn't happen they get to a restart and Luke Stanich just starts chipping away takedown take down take down take down until he gets it Toprak almost blew his whole wad in that first series in that first eight points because he started and he started fading fast after that
Speaker: Right. if you're goingnna If you're going to blow your wad, you better make sure the match ends.
Speaker: I don't even know what I said that time to activate her. Put her in check i now. I have no idea what I even said that activated her. That's crazy. I said Top Rack, and she was like... Talking about talking about Top Rack and blowing wads, Ryan, and you get you get her active?
Speaker: Unbelievable. But yeah, so he wins 18 to eight. And I mean, there's an, i there's an iconic scene from this match where top rack is just laying on the mat, just ah half conscious and, and Stan is over top of him. Just like, get up, get up.
Speaker: And like the refs aren't doing anything about it. i'm like, maybe they should not let Stan do that, but it's awesome. Did one of the refs, did the chairman yell at him? He yelled at one of the coaches. He said, one of the coaches, one more time, my yellow card. Oh, okay.
Speaker: but he must have been Yeah. So he must've been yelling at Zach Ray then I'm assuming Zach Ray was probably also up on his feet saying, get that kid. can' can't get you you You can't get out of your chair when you are coaching at UWW event.
Speaker: Also total side note at the last ranking series, David Carr was wrestling and Brent Metcalf was in his corner. I think Brent was getting yelled at for wearing a hat.
Speaker: Because I'm pretty sure like it was to the point where they were like, take the hat off. And so the ref on the mat told him to. And so he took it off. And then once the ref turned around, he put right back on. And the reason Brent is wearing a hat is because he has frosted tips right now. Now, I don't know what bet he lost for that to happen. But...
Speaker: I'm pretty sure this... I've been only witnessing this through through tournaments and Final X and all that. This is the narrative that I've put together. So I haven't confirmed it in any way. but But yeah, back to Luke Stanich.
Speaker: Wins that first match 18-8. ah Beats his next opponent 9-3. He's in a tough match in the quarters against Alessandro Nini from Italy who wrestles for Rutgers. But wins that match 3-3.
Speaker: Now he's in the semifinals against... I believe is easy. UWW wrestler, but I think he's the Bella Russian. think he's from Belarus. I don't think this is the Russian that he wrestled in the semis.
Speaker: ah But this one had beaten Top Racket Euros. And so this is another name where it's like, crap. Like, he's really got to have it put together to win this match. He gets the job done with a 3-1 win. And then he he beats Reiji Uchida of Japan in the finals, 4-3. I think Top Rack teched his way through in the back door, too. I didn't tech that Russian.
Speaker: No? Nope. Almost faded. Almost lost it all again. Oh, he did. No. ah because i was there were two matches there were two bronze medal matches that i had to watch it was that one and then it was also uh the armenian that got disqualified against blaze i had to watch him wrestle he also blew it late in his match and threw a fit but um uchida in the finals tried to do that head up head up the butt leg lace and stanch had the solution for it so that was awesome to see
Speaker: that was all I mean, GG. Yeah, let's let's talk about this for a second, because Luke Stanage went through to qualify for the world team and then to win a world title.
Speaker: He had to have gone through what what people should consider the most impressive list of of wins. Right. I mean, he beat Zepeda. He beat ah Bo Bassett three times. He beat Toprak. He beat Jean Dubayev. He beat Reggie Uchida. He beat all these guys. And who else did he beat at the Open?
Speaker: Let me look. I mean, I got it right here. Rabidu, maybe? or There's no way Rabidu is at that weight. What happened to your camera? Dude, I have no idea. Did do we lose it?
Speaker: I can't see. It says waiting for IV cam connection. You know what? I bet you my phone's dead because I didn't plug it in. Oh, no. okay Oh, no.
Speaker: It's just a Ryan podcast episode this time.
Speaker: Uh, my phone's dead. God damn it.
Speaker: Well, we'll get back in the swing of things, people. All right. Just bear with us a little bit. Um, okay.
Speaker: Now I have to think. Oh yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. i don't know who he would have wrestled at the U S open except for Bassett and Zapata.
Speaker: Zepeda 8-8. He beat Bassett 5-2. And then he beat, in the finals, he beat Manville 6-0. That's right, Pearson. um Yeah, I think this is also a pretty, this is a pretty big testament to the skill level that we see we are seeing out of guys like Bo Bassett and Daniel Zepeda.
Speaker: Zepeda might be the guy to to roll right away for NC State next year.
Speaker: I think i think he could he could see himself starting over Koi Biskins and being a ah ah notable name in the lineup for NC State, who is going to have a pretty good team next year. Oh, Stanich also tech-fold Mason Gibson.
Speaker: Gibson's having a rough go these days.
Speaker: Stanich, U20 world champ. He's only... His only loss throughout the process was a, like a three, three or three, two loss to Bo Bassett. How do you feel about him at one 41 this year?
Speaker: I mean, he's gotta be, you gotta put him in that contender air area, right? But a a folk style match against Brock Hardy.
Speaker: i feel like he's, that's ah going to be a tough, tough one for him to navigate. yeah I feel like he a number i feel like you will have it ah better chance at beating Mendes.
Speaker: Okay. You know they wrestled, right? hardy Who? Mendes and Stanich wrestled at like whatever tournament Stanich beat Sergio Lemley at earlier this year.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. Edinburgh?
Speaker: Was it Edinburgh? I don't know. Anyway, yeah, that was a close match, though. No, it was a major decision. Okay. Well, anyway.
Speaker: He's since then jumped levels, so. I also think so. Are we back? Yeah.
Speaker: I'm back. Hang on. Like he never left. i was here the whole time. Just you couldn't see me. Had to make sure when I was getting this set up.
Speaker: I didn't show you guys anything you don't need to see.
Speaker: Like what? Oh, who knows? Anyway, that was Luke Stanich, 70 kilos, PJ Duke, world champion.
Speaker: Some, at least one, no I'm going to say two interesting matches on the way to it. He gets a ah tech, a pin, a tech, getting into the semifinals, and now he's got an i an Iranian who...
Speaker: It looked pretty decent, but we something that was noticeable was he was wrestling a guy from India earlier in the tournament, and he faded hard late in the match. So PJ Duke, ah he gets up. He's he's winning this match 2-2 on Criteria with about a minute and a half think faded? Really?
Speaker: ah The Iranian. Oh, thought you were saying PJ did. I was like thinking. I just watched his match today. i did not think that. Okay. No, I'm talking about the Iranian earlier in the in the in the tournament.
Speaker: He wrestled. I can confirm who it was. He wrestled. Yeah, Sagar from India. And the match started to get out of hand late in the match. I think it was 7-6 maybe or something like that.
Speaker: But semifinals, two to two PJ Duke is winning on criteria about a minute and a half left in the in the match. Neither guy is, is pushing the subject at all in any way. 30 seconds left.
Speaker: No pressure from either guy holding center, collar tie, collar tie, wrist control. That's it. Nothing is happening.
Speaker: Commentary for the match. It starts kind of saying, uh, what's his name? Uh, Alahi, Alahi's got to go. He's got to, he doesn't, does he know he's he's losing this match? You see the Iranian coaches, they start freaking out. They start yelling. I don't know what they're yelling because i don't understand their language, but everybody's starting to freak out because for some reason, this Iranian is not trying to win the match for for either he thinks he's winning or he's super tired and he doesn't want to try.
Speaker: who There's been a lot of reasons that people have discussed, but either way, time runs out and the Iranian is just like, yeah, I won. And then he looks at the score And then he's like, what?
Speaker: And it's a two to two match. well yeah How do you, where does the math get lost? You know, cause it was a, it was a one point, one point for the Iranian and a two point takedown for Duke.
Speaker: It's a pretty simple math. Yeah, but he must've, I don't know. Cause didn't he score last? Was the Iranian? So I'm thinking he forgot about the point value.
Speaker: And just thought he winning the last point scored. But to not, to not hear your coaches, to not look at the scoreboard. It'd be hard to hear your coach with a fricking ears like this. Cause you're in a ear to ear collar tie. And guess, mean, there were, there were restarts. I don't know. you du seen each other There's, I have a hard time giving people the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker: So that happened. And some people were like, man, P.J. Duke beat Yanni Diakamahalos 19-13 or whatever. Pinned Yanni Diakamahalos. 2-2 win over an Iranian?
Speaker: I expected more. And then he had a tough match in the finals. He won... What was the score? He won 7-5 over a Moldovan. P.J. Duke will win matches.
Speaker: But it's not always going to be this... this show it's not always going to be you know dominant or high scoring sometimes it's just or below a hand fight a hard hand fight pj duke will kind of well he'll wrestle down to your level like hey if you just want to if you just want to wrestle a low scoring criteria match i'll do that and i will i will put my head hands defense at the forefront and draw this match out so
Speaker: I don't know. It was people I don't think fully understand what what to expect from PJ Duke. And that's partially because of the flair that he provided to his appearance with with winning final X and how he did it.
Speaker: So yeah, that's what I have to say about it. PJ Duke was really a three seed at the US Open. Didn't know that.
Speaker: I was just looking at the US Open to see who he kind of went through. i mean, I knew about the Melvin Miller mat. It was Melvin Miller and Landon Robito. Oh, at U20s. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, that they probably used the PIN system, and PIN system's not very not too close to perfect. How do you look at that before you put out the brackets, and you're like, hmm.
Speaker: All right, this is what PIN came out with. Now, we're gonna make a few logical adjustments. We're going to shift. It might be one of those. We're going to shift these. It might be one of those situations where, know, like at NCAAs, they can shift them, but only by so much.
Speaker: I'm saying, don't know. I mean, it would be easy to go, all right, you got these three are your top three seeds, but it probably needs to be Duke, Melvin, Robito. Yeah, I don't know if they can do that.
Speaker: Otherwise, I would assume that they would. i'm i'm so I'm saying that they should just do it. Oh, they should just. Yeah. They should just use logic. It's logic. i'm trying I'm trying to say, like, just let's be logical here.
Speaker: Look, if you want me to understand how frustrated are with these seeds, you're going to have to talk to me like Willie Saylor talks about seeds. How does he talk about them?
Speaker: These freaking boneheads who try to use their technology to do a man's job. mean, he's not wrong.
Speaker: No, and he uses probably even more colorful language than that. but He is not? He's not wrong. You've got to have ah an element of of human calculation to seeding something like this. yeah You just have to.
Speaker: All right. 74 kilograms, Ladarian Lockett, fifth place finish. Not what most people were expecting. However, he did not have an easy bracket.
Speaker: Wins his first match, Techfall. Loses his second match to Russia's Ismail Kanaev. 5-2. Kanaev's got a good underhook. He works pretty effectively from it.
Speaker: He also pulls hair, which I find but dirty and cheap. And not very honorable. But the refs didn't see it, so doesn't matter. He is not a man of honor.
Speaker: Yeah, and then he... Ladurian's in Rappershage because Kanaev makes the finals. Beats his opponent from Turkmenistan, Tenno. Has a very tough German, Manuel Wagen.
Speaker: And beats him 8-5. Late exchange. very Very thrilling finish to the match. And he's he's in the bronze medal match now against Kanata Yamaguchi.
Speaker: Gets taken down off a very interesting exchange. And then Yamaguchi puts his head up his butt. And just... Rolls them to a fifth place finish. And that was that. Yep. Yep. Yep. Bruce.
Speaker: So not, you know, not if you, if you, if you are a member of the Ladarian hype train, Ladarian locket hype train, I'm not saying get off, but I think you evaluate this as a, a bit of a, Hey, we got some things we got to fix.
Speaker: We got to get our our mind ready and right for this upcoming folk style season. Cause I expect him to be the guy that they put in right away at one 65. And you know, if there's a guy who's going to get, get the right stuff in place, it's going David Taylor ah or Cal Sanderson.
Speaker: But I got to, I trust David Taylor to handle this the way it needs to be handled. Yeah, I agree. So, yeah. Yeah, okay. 79 kilos. Will Henkel, kind of what he touched on. Willie.
Speaker: we We touched on him. We've touched Will. So he'd beat he beat Mantonona three times. Beat him. U.S. Open two times. I didn't i guess I didn't really. didn't The U.S. Open match was good back and forth, I think.
Speaker: Yeah. I think he beat him a little bit more handedly. Both of those matches were.
Speaker: by, know, he was in control, both of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Henkel had a very impressive run and tough bracket lost in the finals, eight to six to Mati Yousefi.
Speaker: It's a good loss. It's a match that you probably could have won. yeah There was a, there was a moment where he could have, his coach could have challenged it. And instead of getting, giving up one for a step out, he could have gotten two for a takedown.
Speaker: Maybe, but, That's a good match. This, think now, this next guy. I think Will's going to be back to win it next year. I think, so... Unless... How many of these dudes are still eligible?
Speaker: Okay. All them. Anthony Knox, yes. Marcus Blaze, yes. Luke Stanich, probably no not. not Stanich. My bad. Not all of them. PJ Duke. Yes. Ladarian Lockett. Yes. Will Henkel. Yes. I believe so. Max McAnally. Probably not.
Speaker: Shoot. That's two. Connor Mirasola. Neither of the Mirasolas. Okay. So, but still. Justin Rademacher. I don't think so. That's still. So. Six. No, five.
Speaker: Five and five. Five. Yeah. Henkel. Henkel Lockett. Duke. Blazin Knox. Yeah. I mean, dude, we're returning two golds and a silver.
Speaker: Right. And and Luke Stanich is gone, but who's going to be right right there behind him? Bosef. We'll pass it. Jack's force is still going to be U-20 eligible next year.
Speaker: Now he might not waste his time with it. I don't know. ah was Was Luke Lilladol U-20 eligible this year? Yes. That's crazy.
Speaker: we could have had probably another gold medal.
Speaker: Yeah. That's pretty nuts. He's going to U23s.
Speaker: He's going to U23s. That's right. He'll have some challenges. no he'll I mean, he's basically like, I've won that already. I'll go get another one at this at ah a little bit higher age.
Speaker: Right. right But Colmier Sola, has ah there will be a bunch of guys behind him Um, who are up for the task. Dreshawn Ross, Mako, Merrill, Bechtold?
Speaker: Probably. i'm Probably Bechtold. Maybe. but Didn't he beat Merrill? No. I don't know. Maybe. Um, yeah, but we're, we're going to, we're to be set for a little bit.
Speaker: Uh, this just yeah'm Probably not. I'm thinking of somebody else. I think it was a trials and I'm thinking, I'm thinking of somebody else. So trials, um, Max McAnally gold medalist.
Speaker: And if you want to go see somebody shoot single legs with unreal execution, unreal proficiency, and I think a perfect finish rate, go watch Max McAnally through this entire U 20 bracket.
Speaker: Tenotech, Tenotech, 5-5 win over Rahmani from Iran, who is heralded as very, very good. Number two guy behind Gassimpoor. They had to wrestle off Gassimpoor. 1-3-1. ah Very impressive. And then he wins in the finals 8-0 over Islam Ghariev from, believe, Russia.
Speaker: Yeah, Max McAnally. And it's crazy to think he had to... he had a Wrestle very and beat a very tough Aiden Sinclair to make this to make this team. Lost the match.
Speaker: Dropped a match to him. Did he? the Three matches. Oh yeah, it took three matches at trials. So they wrestled they wrestled four times. That's crazy. Yeah, dude.
Speaker: This... Max McAnally, this was a little bit of an eye opener. This, this kind of squarely puts him in my mind as the guy at 184 pounds next year. I think, I think he has put himself at least, at least a step ahead of Angelo Ferrari. And, and I think Ferrari is probably a step ahead of Welsh and Ryder or whoever Oklahoma state has at 184 pounds. And then the rest of the field from there, I think it's going to be interesting to see one 84.
Speaker: Yeah. I I'm excited to talk about the upcoming NCAA season. and but I will say one 84 at the top is probably going to be the most interesting weight to watch throughout the season.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. All right. 92 kilos. Connor mirror, Sola bronze medal.
Speaker: Excuse me. 10, 0 win in the, in the qualification round, lost round of 16 to Camille Karuglia from Kazakhstan. And then in repachage, it's tech fall over Georgia and it gets a tech fall for the bronze medal.
Speaker: over an R Jafar Lee, who, if you recognize that name, that's the guy that beat mirror soul of four bronze last year. So this was sweet revenge for us for a sweet third place finish. Honestly, mirror Sola probably can consider himself in contention for that gold medal.
Speaker: If he just wrestles that round of 16 match a little bit differently. Overall, good performance from Connor mirror Sola, who, when thinking about this upcoming season might be a guy that we see on the bench, which is crazy.
Speaker: Oh my God. Okay. The chances are higher and than not, right? Yeah, probably. i mean, he's, he's currently behind returning national finalist and sophomore Josh Barr.
Speaker: Justin Rademacher, 97 kilograms, gold medal finish. And he kind of smashed everybody. 17, eight pin, nine, one in the quarters, 16 to five tech fall in the semis over Konstantin Petriashvili, who is a guy to keep an eye on. Obviously he has the pedigree with his older brother being Olympic champion, again, Petriashvili, but I mean, this was a, this, he said it in the interview. This is a man wrestling a boy.
Speaker: yeah So Justin Rademacher was just, just a man. um And he wins 4-1 in the finals over Magomed Gadzi, Magomedov from Russia. And Justin Rademacher is a U20 world champ.
Speaker: Now it's 97 kilos. And if he's going to make that drop down to 197 for the upcoming season, it might take a little bit of a little bit of a lump from that. But overall, Justin Rademacher is going to be a name to look at for 197 this upcoming year.
Speaker: Okay. Last guy here. Cole Mirasola, 125 kilos. Bronze metal finish. So that's the twins. Two bronze metal finishes. Tenotech. Huh? What did you say?
Speaker: Cole Mirasola. You said Cole was at 97. Or not, or 92, excuse me. Oh, Connor's at 92. Yeah, you said Cole earlier.
Speaker: My bad. Round of 16, 10-0 tech. I can never remember which one's which. I have it down in my brain that Cole is the bigger one. Connor's the smaller one.
Speaker: 10-0 tech in the quarters, or in the round of 16, 3-0 win in the quarters. He loses in the semis, 11-0 to Kasimbek from Kazakhstan, who Mako, last year at Cadets, teched in the finals.
Speaker: But this Kazakhstan... First of all, was absolutely huge and was very tricky whenever defending shots. So I think Colmira Sola slows down this match just a little bit and is just quicker on his shot to finish execution.
Speaker: Maybe this match is little bit different, but either way gets 12 to tech in December in the bronze medal match. Caps us off with eight medals with his bronze medal finish. So.
Speaker: This was an unreal performance from our U20 world team. This I think was the largest margin of victory that we have seen in the modern US or the modern world championships.
Speaker: This has to be team you has to be the best team we've ever had right? Yeah, I don't think we've... U20s for sure. The most gold medals we'd had before this was three. We got five.
Speaker: Scored 185 points with Kazakhstan coming in at second with 112. Russia would have been somewhere in second place with more than 112 points. Let him back in. Jesus.
Speaker: Yeah. i don't know I don't know what to do there, but I would think we could let him back in. Let him in. So yeah that's that. Next thing coming up is this weekend. It's Real American Freestyle.
Speaker: That'll be a 10-match card. And then shortly after that, We have Senior Worlds. Just like that. It's already there. It's coming up. Just like that.
Speaker: We have to do a little bit of a preview. Whenever we can get Rhys back on this. We'll get him back. He'll be back next time. Yep. Okay. Closing thoughts, brother.
Speaker: Nope.
Speaker: No closing thoughts. Kind of, um I don't know. Go Packers. oh Go. um Roll Tide.
Speaker: It's the closest thing you got to a professional football team in Alabama.
Speaker: Yeah. Are they going to be the best team this year? I don't know. I mean, preseason rankings, I think it was Ohio State and Texas were 1-2, and they're playing week one. Or they're playing not week one. They're playing this upcoming week, I'm pretty sure. I was i was thinking about the the best football team in Alabama.
Speaker: Oh, are they the best football team in Alabama? Yeah. I don't know. i I literally have no idea. I don't know if Alabama is like shockingly bad. Auburn would be the only team that challenges them in the state. and they South Alabama.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: You're just fucking with me now. but What do you think about that? Okay, everybody. Thank you for listening. Have a good rest of your day or night, whatever time of the day it is. You know what to do. Have a good day. Goodbye.





