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Cokeley Brothers: Welcome back, everybody, to another Barn Session. It's just the two of us today. Good old Reese and Sammy tag team, because Ryan is busy at the moment. um But we got a lot of exciting stuff to talk about, particularly the National Duels Invitational um and but and everything that happened there and in events surrounding it.
Cokeley Brothers: um Yeah, Reese, give me your initial thoughts. on the event and on the weekend.
Squim: My initial thoughts...
Squim: Where was Penn State?
Cokeley Brothers: Where were they?
Squim: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Those are not my initial thoughts. um don't really care that much that Penn State was there. It would have nice if they were there, but who really cares?
Cokeley Brothers: Let's get down to the real problem.
Squim: so The real issue?
Cokeley Brothers: Where were the Nittany Lions? Why is Kale scared?
Squim: Why? Why does Kale hate wrestling? And... why has he got Why does he have to make it everybody else's problem, what he does?
Cokeley Brothers: i I do have, we're kind of making it, we're making it our problem.
Squim: I'm kidding. I'm not.
Cokeley Brothers: sort of Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Squim: I don't care.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. um I, I have a bit, I have a segment that I want to I want to dig into like, not necessarily the fact that Penn state wasn't there, but that happening caused a lot of dialogue that I want to address.
Cokeley Brothers: But we can talk about the actual wrestling first. So yeah. Tell me about,
Squim: not Well, Ohio State is obviously the thing that pops into my mind first. Ohio State and basically how they're, um they kind of, they went Penn State on everybody's ass, for lack of a better term.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, they, i mean, their record over four rules was 31 and nine. I think they had four or maybe five guys.
Cokeley Brothers: i guess they went undefeated 125, 133, 141, 157, and 285. they, think half their weights undefeated. Yeah. Yeah. and two eighty five so they i think they half their weights when undefeated um yeah It was, I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: I felt like it made sense for them to handle day one. But then going into the semis up against Nebraska, I was i was like like, man, this is going to be a really interesting duel. And it was beating.
Cokeley Brothers: It was bad. it was bad
Squim: Yeah, I mean, i picked Nebraska to win that duel via criteria, 16-15 whatever. And yeah, obviously that was way I was way off there.
Squim: It didn't go that way.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah ah Dude, I mean, it was just, i you know, if you break down the duel, like Nebraska losing 25, that's not a huge surprise.
Cokeley Brothers: um But then 133, mean, did Vandy even wrestle? i don't even remember if Vandy wrestled or not.
Squim: No.
Cokeley Brothers: Vandy didn't wrestle. Brock Hardy's got a chance to beat Jesse Mendes, but doesn't get the job done. It just, their luck, they Things didn't pan out for them. And I feel like.
Cokeley Brothers: I feel like. On trail tailors overvalued. Well, it was going into this.
Squim: I mean, I definitely overvalued him. my I guess i ah it's hard not to look at him as... returning, you know, like you would look at a most returning national champs, you know, you look at them a little differently than you do the rest of the field.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't know.
Squim: Um,
Cokeley Brothers: It just... I don't know.
Squim: oh, I mean, yeah, he was not that guy, ah this weekend.
Cokeley Brothers: No, he... i mean, he did... i guess if I look at at his... Because they wrestled at the Navy Classic. And if I look at those match results, he took care of business. He didn't have any really major challenges.
Cokeley Brothers: um But looked slow um at the Army Duel. And then... Rizinski kind of caught him. um That'll happen. and but But then, I mean, just the way he wrestled Brandon Cannon.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know if it's i don't know if i should if I should be putting more stock into Brandon Cannon or if I should be taking into consideration the idea that maybe Entrell Taylor is not the same person that he was last year necessarily.
Squim: and
Squim: I don't know. I don't, I think he, I think last year he had his ups and downs too. I mean, he got pinned in the big 10 finals last year or no, he got pinned in the semis.
Cokeley Brothers: semis no yeah
Squim: Yeah. And took fourth or whatever. Yeah. yeah I think he did third. Right.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah I don't know ah because like yeah if from the returning national champs that we had from last year which is like Vince Robinson Lucas Bird Antrell Taylor ah Jesse Mendes Mitchell Mezenbrink and I think that's it
Squim: I think
Squim: and I'll be fine.
Squim: Pains.
Cokeley Brothers: Haynes didn't win it last year.
Squim: Oh, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, I think that's a, yes, that's it. Um, two of them were like, in my mind, like, yeah, these guys, you wrestle that there's a very high likelihood that they are not going to win it again.
Cokeley Brothers: And it was, they both lost this weekend. So with that in mind, yeah, I don't know. Uh, Normally you see Penn or not Penn state, Nebraska. Normally you see Nebraska do really well at this time of the year. Like when you think about them going to the CKLV, they typically look great.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, and on day one, they look fine, but on day two, they looked terrible.
Squim: Terrible. They didn't look so good ah against, what n seat was it NC State? Or who did they all and the corners i was in State.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Quarters would have been...
Cokeley Brothers: cannot remember right now.
Squim: It was Michigan. They didn't look that great against Michigan.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Brock Mantonona beat Silas Allred. um
Cokeley Brothers: LJ Rujau did not even wrestle.
Cokeley Brothers: Who else here? and um Van D wrestled. Yeah, Lauritsen and Kohler, I don't know who they're going to start between those two, but they they look they looked fine. that Just nothing, you know.
Cokeley Brothers: I guess McDaniel had a close match. That Hayden Walters kid, I don't know. I don't know about him yet. Maybe. um But the Ferrari major, Tegadalia, I was pretty impressed by that.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: But, yeah. I mean,
Cokeley Brothers: i think Ohio State's that team this year. They, you know, the rankings, the new rankings came out today. that's It's Tuesday afternoon. And I don't think they're going to be, i still don't think they're going to be even in the same stratosphere as Penn State, but they're definitely the number two team right now. they And I think, I tweeted about this. I think they're probably, they probably have the best starting three 125 141. don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know
Squim: Oh, how's it?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't know who you would put out, who who's going to be a better option between McCrone and Bousakis.
Squim: Yeah. I mean...
Cokeley Brothers: I would lean Bousakis, considering he's got the better wins.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: um But then Devino and Mendez. ah if if you If we get a final this year at 133 between Ben Devino and Marcus Blaze, that's that's very realistic, even with Bird, Ayala, Crookham, and everybody else at 133.
Cokeley Brothers: And who was the last person who's the last person to beat Marcus Blaze in folk
Squim: Yeah.
Squim: I believe that was one Ben DeVino.
Cokeley Brothers: It was Ben DeVino. So I don't know who to who to pick there. And then, yeah, Jesse Mendes, you know, Brock Hardy.
Squim: i hope I hope that isn't the final. I hope one of these other dudes steps up.
Cokeley Brothers: How come? Who?
Squim: Crookum or Bird, really. That's about it.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I think those are your two main options. Maybe... No, that's really it. And and maybe Bird. I could see it with Bird. Crookam, I just...
Cokeley Brothers: I get worried about a person who's, who's been off the mat for 11 months, you know?
Squim: I
Squim: i think, ah well, I mean, he's been off the mat for a lot longer than that and then come back and and looked took like really sharp.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that's true.
Squim: You know, I think when he's when he's wrestling, you really have to worry a a lot about him. Because I don't know he looks he's locked in like every time he steps on the mat, it seems like.
Cokeley Brothers: That's true. Yeah. Maybe, maybe, ah maybe it's not a problem. I just, I get, I get worried in general just about people who like, when you can't have a complete season or when you're, when you, when you come back in like early or mid January and it's just kind of difficult when you've been through a full season to like get yourself back into the cadence to peak in March the right way.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know.
Squim: So why didn't they have him or Stanich or Taylor?
Cokeley Brothers: I believe it's Stanich hurt his knee at U twenties. Crookham is still working his way back into it. And I think the same thing, same situation with Taylor. I think it's all just injury related.
Squim: Just precautionary.
Cokeley Brothers: pretty much is what it, what it seemed like.
Squim: Hopefully.
Cokeley Brothers: There's been a lot of that, honestly, across the board. um You know, we know Cornell Meyer Shapiro had the opportunity to compete this semester, but it's just playing it safe, which is, it's fine.
Squim: but So why did he actually choose between wrestling this semester and not wrestling this semester?
Cokeley Brothers: It's not, um
Cokeley Brothers: no, no, he he just made it. It was, it was just a choice in terms of like, he could have wrestled this semester.
Squim: why does it why Why wait the whole semester though?
Cokeley Brothers: Um,
Cokeley Brothers: I mean,
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think it's an intention of like, I don't think that.
Squim: That's just when they think he's going to be healthy.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't think I don't think it has anything to do with at semester. I'm pretty sure.
Squim: Is
Cokeley Brothers: I think it's just like, hey, we're just play it safe. We'll wrestle January, February, March. And I think actually maybe he'll come back late December. So.
Squim: it just a head concussion thing or what the hell does that mean?
Cokeley Brothers: Pitch count.
Cokeley Brothers: I think it's just pitch count. Keep them keep all the gears turning. I don't know, Reese. i'm not I'm not in the coach's seat at that at that program.
Cokeley Brothers: But that's I feel like those are the things roughly that have been talked about.
Squim: What?
Cokeley Brothers: um But yeah, and like you know Lorenzo Norman and and Nico Provo, we still haven't seen for Stanford. They're still recovering as well. like Just across Josh Barr's not healthy from his injury.
Cokeley Brothers: Rumor has it that he might be, might be more serious than what was initially expected. But yeah, even if that were the case, because Penn State did wrestle this weekend.
Squim: Mark?
Cokeley Brothers: It was against Oklahoma, which is not a challenge, but there was a couple of interesting weight classes. One of them was 197 with D'Anthony Parker and um Cole, no, Connor Mirasola went out there and majored him, put the hands on him. So,
Cokeley Brothers: Even if they don't have Josh Barr, Mirasola is going to be plenty and plenty.
Squim: What's wrong with Josh Potter?
Cokeley Brothers: Wait, it's his rib from U23s.
Squim: Is it his ankle or? Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: You remember this?
Squim: Not really.
Cokeley Brothers: He's wrestling the Iranian and got gave gave up a takedown and the Iranian started working a gut. And after the first turn, was it that was all she wrote.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But, um, back to the duels, Ohio state wins. Iowa takes second place. What do you feel about Iowa? I felt, I felt good about them personally overall.
Squim: Dude, they don't score enough.
Squim: Period.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. Yes. Agreed. Um,
Squim: They're the same issue. they They go out and they say it like in their post-match interviews. They talk about how they need to score more. Like literally, it's like a common, it's with every single one of them.
Squim: They're like, I need to score more and they don't score more. And you know what? It's not just Iowa.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: It's like all, it's like everybody it feels like, but
Cokeley Brothers: That's a lot of, yeah.
Squim: Iowa, you know, in particular has had this problem for, you know, the last 10, 15 years. fifteen years
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I, I totally understand where you're coming from. And you saw it with a couple of people like and Dean Peterson wasn't really doing a whole lot. He wasn't generating a whole lot of offense. Drake. I all, it didn't seem like he could rely reliably get to any sort of offense.
Cokeley Brothers: Angelo Ferrari was just selectively deciding, you know what? I'm not going to try and score until the third period. But anytime he wanted wanted to go out there and score, he could do it.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Anytime he wanted to to put create a position where you know so the winner is going to navigate and and and score the takedown, it's going to be him. um So hopefully he just chooses.
Squim: and even with him, dude, I'm like less like, I don't, I don't, I follow him less than the other guys because I know he's like, he's, he's just doing what he does. Like, I don't think he has in his mind. I don't think he's thinking, God, I wish I would pull the trigger right now.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Squim: unlike someone like Drake, who is, who you're, you're losing six by six points in the third period with a minute and a half, a minute to go. And you're not doing anything, dude.
Squim: You're not doing anything to win the match.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: That's, that's mostly what I'm talking about.
Cokeley Brothers: For sure, for sure. Like it, it, it, uh, even, even Caliendo was, was pretty stifled. Um, however, huh?
Squim: Something's got to be wrong with him. He's got to, he's got to have some kind of like, injury or something because he seemed off.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe. i don't know. He, yeah, I don't know. Patty Gallagher it could be like a tough, could be a tough out at 165 if he's, if he's firing on all cylinders.
Squim: He was just wasn't firing like like this weekend.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes.
Squim: Right.
Cokeley Brothers: Right. Cause like I would have expected some sort of back and forth between him and Ladarian Lockett. Um, but we didn't, we didn't see that.
Squim: right
Cokeley Brothers: Um, it was all Ladarian. in like counter position from, from Calino. It's like, okay, you have the power clearly by the way you're navigating, um, defending Lydarian shots, get your own offense going.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: But with that being said, to me, there were two major, well, yeah there were two of a couple of like four major questions that were answered.
Squim: i was born.
Cokeley Brothers: One was a one 49 and that's writer block and writer block is good. Writer block is, you know, in a weight class that is rough right now. It is not rife with talent.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, but he's showing up looking way better than he did last year at 141. Um, and it looked, he looks like a guy who can, he could who could be a national finalist or could be like around a 12. Cause that's kind of just the way one 49 is right now.
Cokeley Brothers: Um,
Squim: Yeah, i I agree. I liked i thought Ryder looked really good. um I thought it was pretty questionable. his i don't i think he had um I felt like that was like a brain fart. I haven't really watched a lot of his scrambling, but don't know how that was like pretty, ah I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: The scrambling there at the end was like, What are you doing dude? How'd you give that up?
Cokeley Brothers: With, uh,
Squim: I was more frustrated with the fact that he he was about to make it whatever, like or 21-0.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah. When he was wrestling styles.
Squim: Yeah, I wanted to see him win that match.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: And he kind of had it.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Squim: don't know how you give that takedown up there at the end.
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Squim: You gotta hustle in those scrambling positions.
Cokeley Brothers: Um,
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I think it's ah the more the more we see him on the mat, the better, I think.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: And then ah another one where i have the exact same sentiment is is in Dean at 197, that he will, the more he gets acclimated to his his opponents and the the competition that he's up against, the better he will do by the time we reach March.
Cokeley Brothers: um Seems like he's gaining confidence. Seems like he understands, like, I can i can do these things that I'm that i'm used to doing, even at this level. So both of those are generally like they're, they're pretty, they were pretty big potential holes in the lineup and they feel pretty well answered. Now it feels like they have a pretty complete lineup.
Cokeley Brothers: Now the, the problems that I still see are, can Ben Keeter get healthy? ah Can Jordan Williams consistently be on the mat and consistently generating offense? Cause all of his, well, all of what I've seen so far for him is like,
Cokeley Brothers: singular scores that put up big points and that's cool but give me give me a go-to takedown give me something consistent kind of the same thing with this year Bailey but not as much
Squim: Yeah, this year did not look, not look great.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah I yeah so I mean between that Dean Peterson getting an upset win over Troy Spratly Drake Iola could look better
Squim: Did not look like he really even wanted to be out there.
Cokeley Brothers: but I don't, I'm not like, I'm not like this is concerning because it's, it's November.
Squim: and see It's more of the same, you asked me.
Cokeley Brothers: And I mean, he lost to Tyler Knox last year. Yeah.
Squim: More of the same with the transfers, the transfer situation. such a It's like a total crapshoot with transfers, it seems. With every program, any program.
Cokeley Brothers: i I probably could have had, I had a pretty good guess of what you were getting whenever you, whenever they went after or, you know, the, the agreement came to be for Nasir Bailey and Jordan Williams.
Cokeley Brothers: I could like, just based on their, I think, I think Tom brands is, you know, he's got, I think he's got a relatively open door policy for people who are like, if you're excited about the idea of being a Hawkeye and being a part of this family, like we are, we will buy in, um, is what it feels like.
Squim: Yeah, why they do it then? What's even the point?
Squim: We will buy in as in spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on you.
Cokeley Brothers: Speculation.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. i i I don't have enough of an understanding.
Squim: that' not truth so I don't get buying these these guys through the transfer portal and, you know, placing them over, you know, guys you who have been in the room for multiple years.
Cokeley Brothers: Huh.
Squim: I just think it's it sucks for the sport in general.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: Especially when it's half your lineup.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: I mean, when it's two guys, it's not that big of a deal. But when it's four, five, six guys, it's too much.
Cokeley Brothers: No.
Cokeley Brothers: No. They have four.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Or do they have more? Is it just four?
Squim: One, two. I think they have five. 125, 33, 41, 57, 65. what Yeah. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, yeah.
Squim: but forty one
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Squim: fifty seven
Cokeley Brothers: It's five.
Squim: thirty five
Cokeley Brothers: It's peterson Peterson, Bailey, Williams, Caliendo, and Dean.
Squim: <unk>
Squim: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Yep. Yeah. i don't know. But I like this Iowa team. I like the way they look.
Squim: wow
Cokeley Brothers: I do, just like in general.
Squim: Oh, no, pretty good. I like him.
Cokeley Brothers: i you know i feel like it's a team that can contend for a trophy in the postseason, so I don't mind it.
Squim: Yeah. I mean, I think Iowa fans feel differently from from what you're feeling there.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Cokeley Brothers: who What fans?
Squim: Iowa fans.
Cokeley Brothers: Ah, whatever.
Squim: I think they want a little more than that.
Cokeley Brothers: look They're very used to to going out there and being in ah in a sort of a toss-up duel and getting and getting away with it, kind of like what they did against Oklahoma State. um But you're going to take your lumps every now and again.
Cokeley Brothers: And honestly, they might be taken taking a lump here in two weeks.
Squim: it's Iowa, Sammy.
Cokeley Brothers: The Seahawk duel. Huh?
Squim: I said it's Iowa. theyre they don't They don't expect to take lumps, period.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, I'm a man of reality, okay? And I understand the idea that they're goingnna're you're going to lose sometimes.
Squim: Well, the reality is is that they've had success in the past, like, of the same magnitude that Penn State is having.
Cokeley Brothers: You're not always going to win.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: So their expectations are, why can't we be like that?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: i
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I get it. You miss the glory days. Okay, but i don't know what to tell you. But they wrestle Iowa State in two weeks.
Cokeley Brothers: That is a duel I have circled. don't know about you.
Squim: I mean, i circle it every year, and every year, i will say Jesus.
Cokeley Brothers: Every year. ye that's true.
Squim: So at least they got that going for them. They got that 20-plus year streak.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, but they own the state.
Squim: Like KU K-State football.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: But yeah, that's Iowa. um All right. Third place, Oklahoma State.
Squim: They look good.
Cokeley Brothers: it's It's the season of the freshmen. This is actually, this ties into, we saw this this summer. The senior level of freestyle wrestling, a lot of the older talent started to work its way out.
Cokeley Brothers: And we saw a changing of the guard. We saw a young team, newer wrestlers, and they had success. ah And we're seeing the exact same thing happening this season.
Cokeley Brothers: Not just with Oklahoma State. We're seeing it across the board. um But particularly at Oklahoma State, there are
Cokeley Brothers: three true freshmen in the lineup. And every single one of them, I think, is in the top three right now. Sergio Vega, Landon Rabideau, and Ladarian Lockett.
Cokeley Brothers: And then Ronnie Ramirez might be the guy at 133. Because Richie Figgs, after he didn't get the nod to start against Iowa, I think he dipped. I didn't see him for the rest of the event.
Squim: Really?
Cokeley Brothers: um I mean, i don't know. But those those freshmen are good.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: They are very good. And they were a they were about five seconds away from beating Iowa. If Troy Spratley wrestles that match a little bit smarter for about five to ten more seconds, they win that match.
Squim: What a ding dong.
Cokeley Brothers: what It was a ding-dong situation. i I mean, it was he he's in on the leg. There's short time left. Keep control of it and drive, elevate...
Cokeley Brothers: Move the position around in a way that doesn't compromise you. And hats off to Dean Peterson for finding a way to snatch victory from the jaws of a defeat. Cause that was, that was what he did. And it was impressive, but Troy Spratly, uh, Ramirez or, um, or figs, whoever gets the nod Vega, um, Swiderski who have some concerns about Rabideau,
Squim: Picks, dude. Honestly, i'm I'm more... I would lean more towards taking Swiderski out than Figgs, if anything.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. I want to talk about Swiderski and Zack Ryder. um I think that I think they should play around with 133 and with 149. I don't know what the deal is with.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, maybe this is what I was.
Squim: got Thompson and and Rob waiting in the wings.
Cokeley Brothers: This is what I was worried about. This is what I was worried about at 184 with Zack Ryder prior to the All-Star Classic because I went back and I watched his matches from last year when he was redshirting at Penn State He's wrestling at the Southern scuffle. And I'm like, he's winning the matches, but it's a lot of pushing.
Cokeley Brothers: It's a lot of hand fight. It's not a lot of offense. Uh, and people like he pinned all American TJ Stewart. I'm like, did you watch the match though? What did you watch the actual events that transpired?
Squim: You know, if you don't try to throw him.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, TJ threw him and got the takedown. And then like on a scramble in the second period, which is the next scoring exchange. Um,
Cokeley Brothers: Ryder just catches him, holds him on his back and gets the pin. Uh, but like it's, it's get to the under hook and push. Uh, I kind would have thought David Taylor would have been like, Hey, yeah have you ever heard? i think we've talked about this. Have you ever heard what turbo the log nev, why he prefers collar tie over under hook.
Cokeley Brothers: So he said the world's best under hook faced off against the world's best collar tie. And every single time, except for once, the world's best caller tie won. That's why i go caller tie. He's talking about David Taylor versus Sasan Yazdani.
Cokeley Brothers: So I figured David Taylor would have been like, the underhook works. yeah we see it we We see it with Yazdani. We see it with Trent Heidly. But this is better. This is going to get you more. We didn't see that. Zach Ryder, he lost a very problematic match against ah Christian Hansen.
Cokeley Brothers: um He looked, he wanted, Chris Hansen, you have a seat?
Squim: Chris Hansen?
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, the Twitter went nuts because Zack Ryder is also the name of a ah ah w WWE star. So people are like, who wrestled who? What happened?
Cokeley Brothers: ah Which was funny. but So he he loses to Hanson. ah He wins a very close 2-1 match to a Donald Cates from NC State who like hasn't done anything.
Cokeley Brothers: um he's got He's got nothing for Angelo Ferrari. And so, and he and he's got, ah he had nothing for for Silas Allred.
Cokeley Brothers: And it's like, okay, we need to change something. yeah You need to just start shooting more ah because this isn't working. Do whatever you did against Jackson Smith, get back to that.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know how you do it. That's not my problem, but you need to figure it out. That's what I see. Or throw in Braden Thompson, throw in Jersey Rob, give your, give your other guys other shots.
Cokeley Brothers: Put a little fire under Zach's ass. Do something.
Squim: A lot of fire owners, I ask.
Cokeley Brothers: That's my estimation. Put a fire under his ass. um
Squim: Same with Swiderski.
Cokeley Brothers: What? Same with Svodersky?
Squim: Same with Swiderski.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, i agree.
Squim: Put in or Young maybe Hughes.
Cokeley Brothers: Kale Hughes. Anybody. Anybody.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Anybody. Teague Travis?
Squim: Take Travis.
Cokeley Brothers: Sure. i don't know if he can make the wait anymore, but...
Squim: Bring back, you know, bring back old ah Jordan Oliver. Somebody in there.
Cokeley Brothers: Somebody put... this but the gi me Give me a little Sam Smith.
Squim: little Sammy Smith.
Cokeley Brothers: little Sammy Smith. ah You know what's weird? ah Because when ah when when we when we saw Casey Swiderski at Iowa State, and even before that, the first time watched Casey Swiderski wrestle, it was against Jesse Mendes at Who's Number One.
Cokeley Brothers: And every song every single time he went out there and wrestled, it looked like he was trying to kill the person he was wrestling. And he was and incredibly passionate, very animated, and always... Like every time he went out there and wrestled Casey, it it was going to be an absolute war.
Cokeley Brothers: Things feel so stifled in his matches. Now they feel so soft, softened, not soft, softened, um which is weird.
Cokeley Brothers: Why? What happened? You know,
Squim: Maybe the injuries have gotten to him. Maybe he's afraid to push his body. I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: that's what I'm, That's like the only thing I can really think of because like even looks tired in his matches.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: It's like, you're getting tired. Isn't this the guy I felt like every time I saw him wrestle, it's like this guy could wrestle for 20 minutes and keep going. But it looks like he's getting tired in his matches. What's going on with that? Is is it a weight cut for one 49?
Squim: I don't know. I'm really just shocked that, i mean, is Jamison hurt?
Cokeley Brothers: ah Yeah, Jamison's not 100% healthy right now. I believe I've heard that.
Squim: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: um So I'm guessing we'll we'll we'll see some other guys get some get some looks in the starting lineup. Unless Widerski can kind of shape things up a little bit. But don't know.
Squim: Now, find some kind of happy medium or, you know, something.
Cokeley Brothers: Something, done dude. Because what's happening right now isn't working. it look, he's wrestled at the All-Star Classic. He wrestled at Stanford Duel. And he wrestled at National Duels. It's three events. Six matches. He's got time.
Cokeley Brothers: However, his record right now is one at four. So it's not pretty.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Including a a hammering from Aiden Valencia.
Squim: know
Cokeley Brothers: So. We'll see.
Squim: Who's like one and one on the season?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but. Dude. why i Have you looked at 149 lately?
Squim: It's bad.
Cokeley Brothers: ah From last year's All-American finishers. There are. Two in the top 10. Two. Shane Van Ness, Lachlan McNeil.
Cokeley Brothers: That's it. Styles is out. Well, Styles might be back in it now. I don't know.
Squim: And Lachlan does not look very good.
Cokeley Brothers: But those those three. Yeah, and Lachlan got destroyed by Caleb Larkin. So it's really going to be Shane Van Ness and then like between two and maybe 15.
Cokeley Brothers: when Because like guys who are in there who haven't really done a whole lot right now are Panero Johnson, ah Michael Joffrey, um ah Chance Lamer, who hasn't wrestled at all this year. Same with Joffrey.
Squim: is Michael Joffrey different from Jack Joffrey or is that the same guy?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm
Cokeley Brothers: pretty sure it's different. There's was one in Missouri.
Squim: there are two Joffreys.
Cokeley Brothers: there's There's a Logan Joffrey. There's a Michael Joffrey. There's a Jack Joffrey. And I think there's a fourth.
Squim: Are they all the same way too?
Cokeley Brothers: ah Roughly around the same area, I'm pretty sure.
Squim: I didn't know there was a Jack Joffrey at Oklahoma and he's fifth in the country. How is that? How is that possible?
Cokeley Brothers: Wait, Jack Joffrey? I thought it was Michael.
Squim: There is a Michael. He's down at 31.
Squim: How is Lachlan McNeil still at three in these flow rankings?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: That's crazy to me. How is he not drop?
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, i don't know. ah Jack... Wait, is it Jack?
Squim: These rankings are crazy.
Cokeley Brothers: Is it Jack?
Squim: There's two of them. There's Michael and Jack.
Cokeley Brothers: I thought it was Michael.
Squim: There's two. They're both here.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, is Michael the Illinois one?
Squim: Yeah. Jack is at open-door door.
Cokeley Brothers: That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. They were both at Virginia at some point.
Squim: Dude, you know who I – what a a name I remembered.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, okay. Whoops.
Squim: And I was like, where where did this guy go but from Virginia? Marlon Yarbrough. You remember him?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: i was like, where did that guy go? And I looked at his – I looked at – yeah, he was injured last year, and he's got one more year this year.
Cokeley Brothers: Did you figure it out?
Squim: just remember – I thought he AA'd a couple of years ago, but he didn't.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: He went like 2-2.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm-mm.
Squim: I don't know why i thought he AA'd.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm-mm. Did he beat? He beat somebody, though.
Squim: Maybe somebody, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: To you, too, buddy.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Um...
Squim: Anyway.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, ah but as Connor Doucette looks good. Cody Merrill is so-so. um
Squim: He's another guy.
Cokeley Brothers: All the freshmen look good.
Squim: paul the Pull the freaking trigger, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, little bit, right?
Squim: Yeah, big time.
Cokeley Brothers: um Facundo went one and four.
Squim: He had a good one. I felt like he looked good, though. Like, His one win against Muto.
Cokeley Brothers: He didn't look bad. He was against, he was against, yeah, did you see how he won against Minto?
Squim: It was not good.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, okay. ah Let me, let me, let me, let me lay out.
Squim: Does he also need to pull the trigger?
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Squim: you know does he I mean, he's never really had offense.
Cokeley Brothers: Let me.
Cokeley Brothers: No, he definitely should have more. Let me lay out how his event went. He wrestled Simon Ruiz, lost close. He wrestled Matt Singleton, was keeping it close, and then like went for an ill-advised switch off bottom and got pinned.
Cokeley Brothers: ah So that's, that's like number three and then number four in the country. Next, he has number two in the country, Pat Kennedy, and that was a close match. Uh, I think sudden victory maybe or two, one or something like that.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, and then he has Chris Minto for third. So he's wrestled number two numbers or number three, number four, number like six in the number two in the country. So he didn't exactly have, a lot, a lineup of opponents that anybody would wrestle on any given weekend ever.
Cokeley Brothers: That's, this is like, like you don't, you don't even get that at NCAAs. You get some schmuck and then you get, you know, whoever else. Um, And the way he beat Chris Minto was off of an illegal head scissor.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: Oh, that's right.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Squim: Hey, let him touch.
Cokeley Brothers: So, you know, can't do that. Rules are rules. Yep.
Squim: Not even for a millisecond.
Cokeley Brothers: What?
Cokeley Brothers: Not even for. Yeah. And it was like at the it was like like up here. it was like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. But i think I think it's more wait and see with him. yeah he he can He can do more.
Cokeley Brothers: but Also give him more time. he's like been he was so off He was off the mat basically for two seasons.
Squim: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: His last full season was 2022. Or 23.
Cokeley Brothers: 23. 23. So give him give him some time. Grow into the weight a little bit more. Whatever. But yeah, that's Oklahoma State. Overall feel good about them.
Cokeley Brothers: We'll see.
Squim: yeah good and I feel like um i mean the Iowa duel, it's crazy to me how they found a way to lose to Iowa again. Them and Iowa State are You know, perpetually, Iowa's little brothers.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: But now, we'll see.
Cokeley Brothers: They wrestle again. that the Yeah.
Squim: Something's got to give with the Oklahoma State situation. They won't lose them forever.
Cokeley Brothers: Right. Right. Um...
Squim: Iowa used to have a chokehold on the like on all all of the Big Ten except for Penn State, obviously, but that seems to have been broken.
Cokeley Brothers: with iowa With Ohio State.
Squim: I think and they they lost to Michigan last year too, right? I think that was two years ago.
Cokeley Brothers: Two years ago. Yeah, when Sergio Lemley beat the brakes off Real Woods.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. And and D'Agostino beat Drake Ayala at 125.
Squim: Yeah, yeah,
Cokeley Brothers: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. um
Cokeley Brothers: And then Nebraska.
Squim: yeah. Yeah, tough tough adding to them.
Cokeley Brothers: Fourth place. Fourth place. They went like $75,000. Yeah. $75,000. And mean. Ugly, ugly duels against Ohio
Squim: They get a cool, 75,000? 75 That's the 20th or number whatever. is it 10 for sure? seventy five gs
Cokeley Brothers: State Oklahoma State.
Squim: the twentieth for so number right
Cokeley Brothers: But.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah seventy five thousand dollars
Squim: a
Cokeley Brothers: ah and i mean ugly ugly duels against ohio state and oklahoma state
Cokeley Brothers: but Who knows? Who knows what things will look like moving forward? AJ Ferrari took a loss, lost to Nick Feldman. Nick Feldman might be the guy at 285. twenty five 285, kind of becoming a weight class. That's that's kind of up for grabs.
Cokeley Brothers: It's open to anybody right now. Nick, uh, uh, Isaac Trumbull is not, um, not healthy. Seemingly, he's not wrestling yet. Uh, AJ Ferrari loses and to Nick Feldman.
Cokeley Brothers: Ben Keeter didn't wrestle at all this weekend. I'm guessing he's Having recovery related issues from his hip surgery this summer. um Tiger, take a dolly loss. So it's really like younger Bastida, but he had a close match with Braxton Amos.
Cokeley Brothers: Christian Carroll kept it kind of tight with, with lots of quality competition this weekend. Lots of options here at two 85, kind of fun. And you get a mass exodus of, of world level talent.
Squim: I forgot that. creature Carol, who did he wrestle?
Cokeley Brothers: You wrestled Feldman.
Cokeley Brothers: And then he wrestled Virginia Tech, Jimmy Mullen.
Squim: Jimmy Mullen.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep. Yeah. yeah I don't know.
Squim: Big Jim.
Cokeley Brothers: Big Jim. ah
Squim: What happened with Hardy in that against Vega? Was that a classic Brock Hardy just like ah bat he was in a bad headspace and just had a bad match?
Cokeley Brothers: ah you could it could be a little bit of Sad Boy Hours.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe.
Squim: He seems to affect him more than the other guy.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: It kind of seemed like Vega beat him at his own game.
Squim: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, maybe. I think a more prepared Brock doesn't get i doesn't let guys in on him that deep.
Cokeley Brothers: It wasn't necessarily about how deep they got in on shots.
Squim: I think it was like he would get in on his shots and then and then two seconds would go by and then Brock would start to wrestle. started He would be like, all now time to try and counter versus just immediately getting into his counter stuff.
Cokeley Brothers: I know if I agree with that.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe. i don't know. Maybe.
Squim: And also, I mean, did you take any shots?
Cokeley Brothers: But.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes, i I believe it was a you shoot, I score, I shoot, I score situation. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure. ah Vega just looked really good. I was just, i was kind of just in awe. i was like, man.
Cokeley Brothers: Because honestly, after this summer, I was like, Vega's probably going to be the guy out of this group of recruits at this weight class area who ends up riding the bench with like, with, with Ronnie Ramirez and Jack's forest and, and the rainy brothers. Like I think Vega is going to end up being the odd man out.
Cokeley Brothers: Not anymore. Not anymore.
Squim: Yeah. it So, he you beat Jack, right?
Cokeley Brothers: Good God. He's good.
Squim: Two. There's another guy he beat. Two to zero.
Cokeley Brothers: He beat, don't know, let me look at my stats that you aren't very interested in.
Squim: Well, shit, bro. I can just...
Cokeley Brothers: I can tell you. he beat He beat Josh Saunders 5-0, Ryan Jack 2-0, Nasir Bailey in sudden victory 3-0, and then he majored Brock Hardy 13-2.
Cokeley Brothers: So, yeah. take Take that and do with it what you will. ah
Squim: I think he's a high – I think he's a – or I think he's an all-American contender.
Cokeley Brothers: Probably the
Squim: I don't – I wouldn't put him in the the champion. i mean, I wouldn't – I don't know if I'd put anybody.
Cokeley Brothers: If he wrestles Ben DeVino, you think Ben DeVino's just putting belt to ass?
Squim: Well, he's not at Benavino's weight.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, whoops. My bad.
Squim: He's at Jesse.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Yeah, i don't think he's beating Jesse Mendez. Probably not.
Squim: I mean, but i think he can – probably be just, I mean, he obviously can beat anybody else. I don't know. Stanich will be interesting, but I think he can probably beat Stanich.
Cokeley Brothers: Stanch will be interesting. There's names at 141. there's names at one forty one Let me of these rankings like 141 I think is one of the deeper weights, but maybe I'm just, it's neighbor at 149 is making it look.
Squim: Pearson Manville is kind of interesting. Did he go in peterly on the weekend?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But like,
Squim: think he did.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah, but i think it was like two and oh, I don't think they wrestled more than two duels. I think he beat the Michigan kid and then
Cokeley Brothers: he might've only wrestled once actually. and i don't know, but,
Squim: Maybe Carter Bailey and Michigan, right? Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I think you might be right. Yeah. Okay. I mean, 141 is Jesse Mendes, Sergio Vega, Brock Hardy, Luke Stanich, CJ Composto, Anthony Echimendia, Seth Romney, Ryan Jack, Corey Land, Vance Vaughn, Nasir Bailey, Dylan Ragas, and Aaron Nagau.
Cokeley Brothers: that's pretty That's pretty good. That's a pretty solid top 13.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: um And like I could see him taking losses to guys like Echimendia, like Composto, like Romney. Maybe not Romney. Um, but like Dylan Ragason, I could see it.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not blown away by that.
Squim: Yeah. he'll take some He'll take some losses you ask him to
Cokeley Brothers: um It'll take some lumps. Some guy. Now there are, in my mind, there are two people from this weekend who like these two guys probably have the most, the best argument for like outstanding wrestler.
Cokeley Brothers: And it's Brandon Cannon and Landon Rabideau. Rabideau? Rabideau. However you say it. Um, Brandon Cannon, uh, bonuses way through the tournament.
Cokeley Brothers: Got a tech over Jared Hill and major Charlie Millard, Ontario Taylor and Victor Boinovich and the land and Robin do, uh, tech Benny Rogers, uh, decision to Jackson Arrington, major Victor Voinovich and tech fall, uh, Des cartrell.
Squim: Man, Oklahoma State versus Ohio State, I would have – I'm so mad that Iowa and Oklahoma State were on the same side of the bracket because out of all those teams that Oklahoma State could face in the Big Ten, they got stuck with freaking Iowa.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: the The team that are already... I mean, they're they would they're already going to wrestle both the teams that they wrestled from the Big Ten. Right?
Squim: That's what saying.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: and Whereas they could have wrestled Nebraska or Ohio State.
Cokeley Brothers: Like, they're not going to...
Cokeley Brothers: Well, no, they're wrestling Nebraska.
Squim: I guess they wrestled Nebraska. They could have wrestled Ohio State.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: That's really the only one.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that Ohio State would have been money. But we didn't get it, Reese. um
Cokeley Brothers: Now, there's a rumor. This came out yesterday. And the way it was being delivered was it's a thing. And it's going to happen. Jacks Forrest to Oklahoma State.
Squim: Yeah, i heard I heard Willie talking about that.
Cokeley Brothers: Willie's talking about it. Now there's some people coming out today that are like, no, this is not happening. It doesn't make sense. David Taylor's smarter than that. Personally, um don't really see how it makes sense.
Squim: That's a bunch of BS.
Cokeley Brothers: What?
Squim: I think those people coming out and saying stuff are liars.
Cokeley Brothers: You feel like it makes sense for him to go?
Squim: I don't see why i it wouldn't make sense for him to go. and I think he's going to go 133. I think he could make 33. What weight he at now? 32? 38? He's at 32 now.
Cokeley Brothers: Is it...
Squim: That's
Cokeley Brothers: but What's...
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, well, he wrestled 61 kilos.
Squim: he's at thirty two now
Cokeley Brothers: He wrestled 61 kilos this summer, which is... 122 plus which is 134.
Squim: like
Cokeley Brothers: 134, 134 and thirty four hundred thirty four hundred thirty four and a half pounds, something like that.
Squim: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: ah So he... Yeah, he can make 133 probably. Is he going look great? I don't know. Might have grown a little bit more.
Squim: He'll look fine.
Cokeley Brothers: but But... Think about... Okay. What kind of impact does that have on the quality of your team? Cause currently you have Ronnie Ramirez and Richie figs, those guys, national qualifier level, when you some matches, maybe through some stroke of luck, get to get, get on the podium.
Cokeley Brothers: What does Jack's forest get you?
Squim: what do you What do you mean, what does Jax Forrest get you?
Cokeley Brothers: Do you think Jack's forest is going to go out there and win 133 pounds?
Squim: you get to He gets you a top three finish. He's placing in the top three, just like Marcus Blaze is either in the top three.
Cokeley Brothers: He's placing in the top three.
Squim: He's top three, and he's probably not three, and he's probably not two. He's probably one.
Cokeley Brothers: I just putting them out there in a weight class where it is. It is Marcus blaze, Ben DeVino, Ryan Crookham, Drake, Iola, Lucas bird, everybody else at that weight.
Squim: I don't see him losing to Ben DeVino.
Cokeley Brothers: a
Squim: I don't see him losing to anyone outside of Bird, Crookham, or Blaze.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Squim: And I just don't think he's losing to Bird either, really.
Cokeley Brothers: Probably not. Now,
Cokeley Brothers: does, do you think that they're not going to win a title off that Oklahoma state's not going to be Penn state off that, right?
Cokeley Brothers: Is it, is it worth it?
Squim: No.
Cokeley Brothers: Is it, is it, is it going to, is it going to bump them from, from four to three or from three to two?
Squim: Worth it and in the sense of what, that you're burning a year of his for him or what?
Cokeley Brothers: Right. Yeah. You're, you're, you're, you're,
Squim: Those guys are all going to be back next year except for Lucas Byrne.
Cokeley Brothers: Sure. i don't, I don't think in it in any way is Jack's forest long for one 33. Well, he is long for one 33.
Squim: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: That's the problem. I think he's a 41 pounder, maybe even a 49 pounder. If you wanted to put some muscle on the kid.
Cokeley Brothers: And that is something that needs to be embraced.
Squim: Well, they're going to have guys at 141.
Cokeley Brothers: I think you need to.
Squim: Like, their problem doesn't go away next year if he comes in at 41 next year as a freshman.
Cokeley Brothers: No, no, but he can red shirt. I don't know. I just... I don't... What's the rush? what What is the rush?
Squim: I mean, what's ah where's the harm? and And I don't think it's rushing at all. He's 19 years old, bro. He's ready to go. He's ready to rock and roll.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't always think about like...
Squim: He's been in the room, obviously.
Cokeley Brothers: One of those... Yeah, he was... Yeah. ah One of those coveted goals, ah coveted achievements that you really you only get one shot at is being a four-timer.
Squim: i agree with that.
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Squim: I totally get that part. I wouldnt i probably wouldn't do it if I were him. I'd be like, no, I'm going to chill with my homies.
Cokeley Brothers: right that
Squim: Walk, do the walk, even though who gives a shit about walking?
Cokeley Brothers: think I don't know I'll believe it when I see it. I'm just skeptical. I'm skeptical on like it. If it was like, yeah, this is a slam dunk. This makes a ton of sense. Uh, you know, we just watched, uh, both of our 33 pounders that we had wrestle this week and we just watched them both lose both of their legs. Like we need somebody.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, sure. Makes sense.
Squim: They don't need anybody and but and they're not going to need anybody for a long time, but that's the I think that's the idea.
Cokeley Brothers: Put them out there.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Okay.
Squim: They're never going to need anybody, especially at those lower weights or just probably any weight, period.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah Okay. Okay. I don't know. I'll believe when I see it. I'm just skeptical. I'm skeptical on it making sense.
Squim: Yeah, I mean, it seems pretty ah far-fetched, but I feel like a Willie's seeing it, I don't
Cokeley Brothers: i Right. i don't I don't distrust the idea that Willie Saylor was in Tulsa, Oklahoma this weekend and was hearing words come out of people's mouths and people who have an actual like stake and impact in the program.
Cokeley Brothers: I believe it. But is one of those what it is one of those events that if it were to happen, I would need to see it happen before I'm like, this is happening.
Cokeley Brothers: I think that's my thoughts. Any other ideas? Any other thoughts about national duels? We had four. We had, I think, four number ones go down.
Squim: You know, yeah. yeah um who Like ah Bird, not Bird.
Cokeley Brothers: No, Bird didn't lose.
Squim: Wait, Bird, yes, Bird. Wait, did he?
Cokeley Brothers: Bird lost?
Squim: He didn't lose?
Cokeley Brothers: Bird didn't lose.
Squim: Okay, Bird didn't lose.
Cokeley Brothers: We had...
Squim: Who was it?
Cokeley Brothers: Did Bird lose? Did Bird lose?
Squim: I don't think so.
Cokeley Brothers: don't think Bird lost.
Squim: But did he?
Cokeley Brothers: ah Vince Robinson.
Squim: He didn't. Oh, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Vince Robinson.
Squim: What did he say?
Cokeley Brothers: Entrell Taylor.
Squim: I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: AJ Ferrari. Was it only three? I felt like it was four.
Squim: No, there's another one. 80... 84?
Cokeley Brothers: Who else was it? Not not 74. Oh, 84. Max McAnally.
Squim: eighty Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: oh eighty four max mcinel
Squim: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Max McAnally lost to Aiden Sinclair. Aiden Sinclair had had Angelo Ferrari beaten. I think Aiden Sinclair has, I think he's unlocked, he's got the game plan in terms of how you beat Angelo Ferrari.
Squim: Not do anything also?
Cokeley Brothers: Well, people get in on on Angelo's legs, right? Not everybody. It's not that easy. But if you if you take a well-set-up, accurate, correctly timed shot, you get on Angelo Ferrari's leg.
Cokeley Brothers: Now it's going to be a head inside a sweep single type position and you're going to pressure in and elevate. And when you step up, what's Angelo going to do? He's hit that funk roll and you drop on it.
Cokeley Brothers: And, and Aiden did that, but he, but he lost the leg as he did I don't know if Angelo like funk rolls and like kicks his leg out or what he does.
Squim: He's so fast.
Squim: maybe Maybe that's the but caveat to to maybe it's just a 100% foolproof strategy.
Cokeley Brothers: it
Squim: It's either he misses that leg, you lose his leg.
Cokeley Brothers: he just like flops like a fish when he does it or something.
Squim: Yeah, exactly.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Squim: he's that He goes full.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know.
Squim: he goes full ah well How do I? What's the politically correct term here? He just, yeah. He just spazzes out, basically.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know, but Aiden Sinclair is, is, is gotten just about as close as anybody else has for, I think even closer than Carter Starachi did to taking down Angelo Ferrari. Uh, it hasn't happened yet.
Cokeley Brothers: And there's people out there. justifiably saying it, nobody's going to take down Angelo Ferrari. It might not, he might not get taken down in college and it would, yeah it would piss me off.
Squim: He'll give up and take down eventually. Shit, dude. That would be... i mean, he's going to have to wrestle these dudes a lot.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. he He has to wrestle. Dylan Fishback is a name of one 84. He's tough. Dylan Fishback, uh, Max McAnally, Silas Allred, uh, all of the, all the names one 84, uh, Rocco Welsh, um, Zach Ryder,
Cokeley Brothers: who am that maybe not so worried about him, I guess not anymore. Yeah.
Squim: It's kind of the top six or top five guys.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah He's going to to wrestle all these guys.
Squim: i wouldn I don't think I would include Jackson Smith.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But, um, yeah, I think Max McAnally has got a pretty good shot just because his offense, I don't know.
Squim: been well
Cokeley Brothers: It felt, it was Aiden Sinclair surprised me this weekend. I was, I should have taken what I saw this summer
Squim: so he had he He beat Max McAnally over the summer.
Cokeley Brothers: I know. I know. I don't know. I thought I was applying the idea that it's freestyle. And for some reason, everybody, people wrestle different between freestyle and folk style, even though on your feet, it is 90% the same.
Squim: Pretty sure the only reason Max beat him in the for the second or third match is freestyle bullshit.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, it was,
Cokeley Brothers: uh, well, I was, I was sorry. bad. I was thinking about the U S open finals when they just gave ah crazy fast restart.
Squim: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Right. But then, yeah, I don't remember. i didn't i don't remember what happened in the series, but.
Squim: It was like some kind of crazy exposure. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Squim: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: ah But. Aiden impressed me. He looked good against everybody. He's the number two guy, probably number three.
Squim: Missouri Dugas. Missouri as a whole impressed me. I thought, i didn't, I think they, they wrestled up. I mean, they were right there with who, who beat them in the, I think Minnesota beat them or Virginia Tech beat them on the backside.
Cokeley Brothers: On the backside?
Squim: Um, and, but it was a close duel.
Cokeley Brothers: don't remember who.
Squim: They taken, uh, place in top eight was, I think pretty, um pretty good for them considering they're kind of down right now, but, They wrestled really well. They got some really good dudes who like you might have thought were, I think they did.
Cokeley Brothers: Did they beat Michigan?
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: they del might They kind of smashed Michigan. They won seven out of the ten matches. one was ah Lachlan had a sudden victory win over Josh Edmonds.
Squim: Got it.
Cokeley Brothers: Dylan Gilcher beat Max Mayfield and take it all. He'd be Jair Stoner. that That one's not a surprise, but like Aiden Sinclair tech fall Brock, man, to know. And oh my God. And Cam Steed beat Mack. Maga beat Diego Satello. Max Mac looks good. ah Cade Moore does not look great, but Zeke Seltzer at one 41.
Cokeley Brothers: That kid's a dog. um
Squim: Morden, he didn't look too bad.
Cokeley Brothers: He had, he had some, I think he had some losses. I'm pretty sure he had some losses ah at the tiger style.
Squim: he had a couple times.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but last weekend, i'm I'm pretty sure he took some lumps.
Squim: Well,
Cokeley Brothers: But um Missouri, yeah, hopefully Cam Steed's healthy.
Squim: hopefully a Cam Steed's okay.
Cokeley Brothers: um Seth Mendoza's at 157. I don't know if that's going to be like a pull in the red shirt type thing.
Squim: I'm assuming he's right, Shredeem.
Cokeley Brothers: People are like, I can't believe he's at 150. He's way too small for the weight. And I watched him wrestle. He's not that small.
Squim: He's thick. He's a thick boy.
Cokeley Brothers: He filled out. he went He went to college and he ate. He gained some weight.
Squim: know um'm I'm going to assume it it would mean it would definitely behoove the Tigers to redshirt him and not wrestle him at 157 because he does not have...
Cokeley Brothers: because he
Squim: he's He's like one of the few guys I feel like in in these times that needs a year because he's got that little baby face.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah baby face for sure.
Squim: Little baby body.
Cokeley Brothers: Give him some time, give him some time to develop and he'll be ready. You know why Reese has, he probably hasn't even freaking turned 18 yet.
Squim: He
Cokeley Brothers: Cause he decided to follow, follow the freaking rules.
Squim: followed the rules. He hasn't turned 18 yet.
Cokeley Brothers: Follow the rule. I don't know. I'm making that up. I don't, maybe he's, maybe he's, maybe he's turning 20 this year.
Squim: He's probably 18, at least.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. But, um, yeah, Missouri, Missouri looked like a solid team. They're, but they're putting it back together. know, everybody was like, man, this is a, this is This is a shell of what they used to be last year.
Cokeley Brothers: you know they had They had good guys in redshirt. They had um Rocky Elam who was injured and he's gone, which sucks.
Squim: Terrible.
Cokeley Brothers: that But like i mean think of think about it. If Rocky was on the team still, that's a pretty freaking good team. Now they have a they they got they got a solid guy in the in the transfer portal out of Evan Bates.
Cokeley Brothers: um But yeah, it's a solid team. It's a good team. um Illinois impressed me. Cornell kind of showed out in the first duel and then, you know, Northern Iowa put, put it on them after that, but they had some, they had some, some matches against Oklahoma state.
Squim: Oh, like, um they're missing who else? But Sergio was there, right?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. So, so they, they have, uh, guys coming back that could potentially be the starters, which is, uh, Greg Deak Mahal is at one 25. Brett Unger at one 33, but, uh,
Cokeley Brothers: Ferrara looks good. And and and given that at 125, Marcelo Milani looks good too. um Saunders is at 41 right now, but Vince Cornell is probably going to end up being the guy. Jackson Joy, I think is going to be the guy, but also Ethan Fernandez in in the second semester at 149 could be an option.
Cokeley Brothers: Meyer Shapiro will come back in at 57. Sergio there at 65. Ruiz is there. Delegata is not wrestling this year 84 and 97 in heavyweight.
Squim: Not wrestling. He's not wrestling at all.
Cokeley Brothers: He's injured.
Squim: Oh.
Cokeley Brothers: He's injured. Yeah.
Squim: Who's there at 97? Is Hanning their guy?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. For this year. Yeah. I don't know what it'll be like in the future, but did you know, Oh, did you know that the, the but Bo Bassett and and Melvin Miller wrestled this weekend?
Squim: They wrestled each other?
Cokeley Brothers: No, they wrestled at a tournament, a college open this weekend.
Squim: I did not.
Cokeley Brothers: They wrestled at the, um, the shorty Hitchcock. Melvin Miller wrestled 165 and ah he won it. He beat Alessio Parenton in the finals.
Cokeley Brothers: Bob Bassett like teched his way through 149.
Squim: Do you wrestle anybody?
Cokeley Brothers: Not really.
Squim: He's got me thinking. I'm like, man, would he win this 149? I mean, he would definitely be top five.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Squim: Definitely.
Cokeley Brothers: He would be top two.
Squim: Probably top three.
Cokeley Brothers: He would be top two. Top three.
Squim: I mean, Larkin and Van Ness are interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm. i I feel good about Larkin. I think Larkin's going to be our... He's going to bring some consistency back to the land of 149.
Squim: I mean, him and Van Ness will be...
Cokeley Brothers: Hopefully.
Squim: ah He can...
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, Larkin might want it.
Squim: Might win it, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: He's good. Yep.
Squim: ASU's always good for some champs here and there.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Squim: Sprinkle in some national champs.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm going to get poached. yeah We'll get into that.
Squim: negative get click Looks really good.
Cokeley Brothers: We'll get into that. um
Cokeley Brothers: What do you think about Brandon Cannon at 157?
Squim: He looks really good.
Cokeley Brothers: Looks pretty good.
Squim: I wish we would have seen him against Robidoux. ah would have been awesome.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, man.
Squim: I'm worried that nobody can beat Robidoux.
Cokeley Brothers: Why are you worried about that?
Squim: I mean, this weight it is also, i mean, Duke, I guess.
Cokeley Brothers: It's a dude.
Squim: Duke is going to be, it's not as bad as 49, but it's not great.
Cokeley Brothers: It's a dumpster fire right now.
Cokeley Brothers: No, but it's rough.
Squim: You got, you got some, you got some heavy hitters in here. You got, I mean, Waters is good. Robidoux, Cannon is, Taylor is, has just proven that he's, that he can be good.
Cokeley Brothers: water
Squim: Durbin's good. Webster, Webster's good.
Cokeley Brothers: As much as I hate to admit it, Stoney Buell from Purdue mike might sneak his way into that podium. He might. Maybe.
Squim: Stoney Boole.
Cokeley Brothers: He's pretty good.
Squim: Boole.
Cokeley Brothers: Buell, maybe?
Squim: How good is Rosinski?
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know.
Squim: Who knows? i mean, today lo you did he lose?
Cokeley Brothers: ah He lost.
Squim: Yeah. Who beat him?
Cokeley Brothers: Who did he lose to? I had it here just a moment ago.
Squim: I don't think he did lose because it only shows he lost Squishle.
Cokeley Brothers: No, he did. Cannon Webster beat him 8-2. Cannon Webster. That's a guy at 57. Yep.
Squim: Webster. Yeah. Webster's not a bad loss.
Cokeley Brothers: Webster's webster solid. And then you throw in Duke. You throw in Shapiro. It's a hell a weight class.
Squim: Okay, yeah, I forgot about Shapiro too. Yeah, this weight class is just fine.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah Yeah. Pretty solid. No.
Squim: you think Lockett can challenge Messenbrink?
Squim: I do.
Cokeley Brothers: You know who I'm most interested to see at 165?
Squim: They wrestled a couple years ago and it was not that bad of a match in freestyle.
Cokeley Brothers: At the Olympic trials?
Squim: Oh, style it would be even better. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Wasn't it a tech fall?
Squim: That was what?
Cokeley Brothers: Wasn't it a tech fall?
Squim: That was a year. i mean, it 14-4 maybe or something like that.
Cokeley Brothers: ah The numbers are fuzzy. i it was It was a long time ago. um
Squim: year and a half ago and Ladarian was a junior in high school.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. ah yeah i I don't know. You know who I'm really excited to see at 165?
Cokeley Brothers: Connor Uton.
Squim: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. Anyway.
Squim: I'm going to shoot down Lockett against Messenbrink and then bring up Connor Uten.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Yeah, I i know. i understand that i'm you're like talking about beasts and I bring in like a pup.
Squim: You're bringing in Uten.
Cokeley Brothers: But maybe...
Squim: What's Uten? He's maxing out at seventh place.
Cokeley Brothers: you remember that he was beating Michael Caliendo before he had to injury default out of the match last year?
Squim: Michael Caliendo almost lost to Sparks that like ah not that long after that or before that either.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, the soldier salute. It's valid.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: It's true. It's fair. Um...
Squim: Blaze. Blaze is also interesting. What's Joey Blaze going like?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh God, i forgot about Joey Blaze.
Squim: He's Nittany Lions slayer.
Cokeley Brothers: He is the lion slayer.
Squim: That's
Cokeley Brothers: Lions don't like fire, Reese. They can't handle the Blaze.
Squim: right.
Cokeley Brothers: Except for they have a a little fire of their own now. Just a little one. A little guy. Can we explain to Ryan that Marcus Blaze and Jax Forrest are not the same size?
Squim: Dude, I mean, I've never seen Jax Forrest in person.
Cokeley Brothers: I think Jax's arms might be twice as long as Marcus's, actually.
Squim: and
Squim: if If Jax is a as small as Marcus Blaze was, then, I mean, Marcus Blaze was shockingly small.
Cokeley Brothers: That would look weird. I know. and I was like, okay, you are like, you're not going to.
Squim: They both look lanky. I've seen them head-to-head in matches, and they both look pretty similar.
Cokeley Brothers: Right. I don't know.
Squim: Like lanky dudes.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. i don't know, dude. I don't know.
Squim: Forrest is up at 38 in high school.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know
Squim: That's what he's ranked at.
Cokeley Brothers: So, I mean, dude, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle 150.
Squim: That's what Blazers ranked last year, I don't think Marcus Blazers cut in weight.
Cokeley Brothers: Don't cut any weight. Are you out of your mind?
Cokeley Brothers: What, to wrestle 133? I was talking about Forrest.
Squim: Yeah.
Squim: Well, they're both, I mean, yeah. I don't know. I think they're similar size. I don't know. I'm not sold yet. I haven't haven't sized up Jax Forrest.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe you're right.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe right. Now, talk about somebody and weight. ah Reportedly, this is a rumor. This total rumor. I have zero confirmation or validation on this. Reportedly, PJ Duke weighed in for the OU duel and didn't make weight.
Squim: Yeah, you know, i didn't really think about this, but he's got to be too big for 157.
Cokeley Brothers: He's got to be. ah And so what i then I did here separately, but before I heard that he missed weight from a different person that, yeah, PJ Duke's not ready yet. He's got it. He blew up after worlds.
Cokeley Brothers: Like he got really big. And I'm like, the weight cut's going to be a problem.
Squim: Could be a problem.
Cokeley Brothers: Weight cut could be a problem. 154.
Squim: but So 40 or 70 kilos, 154.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Cokeley Brothers: one fifty four
Squim: um four Okay. So he gotta he gets he gets a couple pounds.
Cokeley Brothers: he could he He's probably gonna be fine. He's probably going to be just okay. um But after this, he he wrestles this year. He redshirts. He's 165. Maybe he's wrestling 74 kilos moving forward.
Squim: It's wraps.
Cokeley Brothers: Wrap it up. That's what's happening. Unless the kid decides that he wants to alter his physical kind and construct.
Squim: show the g plan. I'll
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. um
Squim: pay the deal.
Cokeley Brothers: God, I had other... Do have other stuff? I know I want to talk about Penn State, but i want to get I want to get through everything else before I get to the mud. um <unk> Yeah, 184 is f freaking fireworks.
Squim: My name is Mud.
Cokeley Brothers: Patrick Kennedy looked good.
Squim: My name is Mud.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Let's talk about Penn State.
Cokeley Brothers: i
Cokeley Brothers: There was a lot of conversation... for over the last months and I was part of it and I I've moved, I've moved amongst the opinions on this. One thing that is being said by ah group of people is that Kale Sanderson owes it to the sport to, to grow the sport by attending this event, uh, by sending his, his wrestlers to wrestle with the national duels. so I disagree with that.
Cokeley Brothers: The way I see it as a head coach, And this applies for every single head coach, probably beyond just wrestling, but I'll just, let's just think about that. The wrestling head coaches, their singular sole goal for the, the growth development and improvement of the sport is to college coaches is to take high recruits, high level recruits, take your athletes and make them better wrestlers and better people point blank.
Cokeley Brothers: That's it. That's all you have to do. It doesn't get any more complicated than that, really.
Cokeley Brothers: However, there are people that are defending Penn State and saying, oh, well, you guys want to talk about growing the sport. Let's talk about how how Kale Sanderson ah isn't isn't enacting these, i you know, isn't attacking smaller programs and taking athletes through the transfer portal.
Cokeley Brothers: And, ah you know, you see these programs like Nebraska are taking Cal State Baker Bakersfields, only all American and and taking.
Squim: Mitchell Messenbrink, hello.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, Mitchell Mezenbrink, Aaron Nagau, Greg Kirkfleet, Kyle Cannell, Bernie Truax.
Squim: Bernie Truax.
Cokeley Brothers: You want to talk about the transfer portal. Don't even get me started on the transfer portal. Everybody uses it. And that's okay because it's there. It's part of the game. You got to play by the rules. That's just the way it works. Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: everybody's Everybody's playing Monopoly. Everybody's got money. Some people have more. Some people have less. And here's the other thing that I've that i've discerned from the fact that that Penn State didn't go to this event.
Cokeley Brothers: Because I'm pretty sure, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that if the prize money for winning this event was big enough, make it 10x, $2 million. dollars If it's $2 million, Kale Sanderson says, yeah, we'll take that check.
Cokeley Brothers: But it's not big enough for him to say, yeah, we're going to go to this event. And so because of that, he doesn't go, which means Kel Sanderson has money. If Kel Sanderson has money, you know, he's paying his athletes.
Cokeley Brothers: You know, the guys at Penn state aren't there just because of the culture and the love of the sport and the fact that they want to be world and Olympic champions.
Squim: True, true.
Cokeley Brothers: They're getting paid too. It's happening. Don't, don't try and convince me otherwise.
Cokeley Brothers: Third point.
Squim: trotro
Cokeley Brothers: If you want to really talk about,
Cokeley Brothers: Ethics and the way coaches operate their programs and the way they, they put their teams together. Kale Sanderson. And I've heard this from people who have been recruited by Kale Sanderson.
Cokeley Brothers: Kale Sanderson pulls no punches when it comes to recruitment. And that's the way a coach has to do it. And I understand that he will see that a kid is committed and he will talk to that kid, ask about the program and then give his opinion on the coaching staff and and the program, and the way things are handled, and explain to the kid why it's better if they just go and wrestle Penn State instead.
Cokeley Brothers: And we've seen it happen. We've seen kids flip come in commitments. So don't get me started and try it. Don't tell me that Kale Sanderson is this patron saint who commits no sins in the sport of wrestling. And he just brings, you know, he shepherds wrestlers into the Penn State room, and he makes them makes them better people. And it's all, everything's good.
Cokeley Brothers: Because that's just not the way it is. It's not the way it works. Okay. Kale Sanderson explicitly said in an interview that what he was interested in from the national duels was if I want to be involved, I want to have, you know, I want to have a say in how it, how it's put out, how it's operated.
Squim: He wants control.
Squim: Give him control.
Cokeley Brothers: We saw that with the all-star classic last year.
Squim: but Did the other coaches have control? Any any level of control?
Cokeley Brothers: No, but Reese, because they're not the dynasty, because they're not the one team, the big dogs, they can't.
Squim: but don't Why would they expect to have any kind of control?
Cokeley Brothers: Right. Mark Manning, what do you want? Just show up.
Squim: You shut up and be happy about your invitation, Mark.
Cokeley Brothers: Send your wrestlers. So, I don't know. It's very it's very frustrating to me.
Squim: Hey, you want to know something?
Cokeley Brothers: Sure.
Squim: they'll be They'll be there next year.
Cokeley Brothers: and' I'm not betting on that.
Squim: They'll be there next year.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not betting on it, but here's the deal. Whether they do or they don't show up, Kale Sanderson owes nothing to the growth of the sport other than making better wrestlers.
Cokeley Brothers: um Don't talk to me about poaching athletes. Don't talk to me about ah money, recruitment, all that stuff. Kale Sanderson to make better wrestlers. He's going to do what's best for his program.
Cokeley Brothers: Cool. That's fine.
Squim: You know what?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not worried about any of that.
Squim: maybe Maybe this is what he was thinking the whole time. I don't want to go there and absolutely annihilate every team and take away from the fanfare.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep. And you know what?
Squim: I'll wait until next year.
Cokeley Brothers: It was better. It was better that they weren't there. And people said that and and they're right.
Squim: It was bad.
Cokeley Brothers: It was better that they weren't there. And that's cool too.
Squim: Ohio State did went went ahead and just did that. Yep.
Cokeley Brothers: Ohio State filled in the position and my God, I am excited for that duel in February.
Squim: Exactly.
Cokeley Brothers: However, it's probably going to go, probably going to go the way we expect it to go.
Squim: You got us excited for that duel. Hey, you know what? This is how I see it. It's two it's two matches they're favored in. Three matches.
Squim: No, no. Five matches Penn State are favored in. Three toss-ups.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. They're favored at heavyweight. They're favored at 41.
Squim: Three toss-ups.
Cokeley Brothers: Probably expected to get bonus at 41. It's a toss-up 133. It's a toss-up. It's a toss-up 157? Okay. What are the three... it's a tossup
Cokeley Brothers: tossup at one fifty seven
Squim: um No. It's toss-up at 33, 74, 84.
Cokeley Brothers: sort of the three
Squim: Why wouldn't
Cokeley Brothers: It's a toss up between Fishback and Welsh.
Squim: why wouldn't it be?
Squim: More a toss-up than Haynes and Hartstuck.
Cokeley Brothers: That's that's the next one that i was. Yeah, but I had think back to their match last year and I'm like, oh, Carson could have done it.
Squim: Could have
Cokeley Brothers: Oh. um um I don't know.
Squim: done it. Other, yeah, the other real problem with this is, you know, it's probably at BJC, I'm assuming.
Cokeley Brothers: think I might.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, you know what we need?
Squim: Or maybe it's at Rec Hall, which is actually worse for them.
Cokeley Brothers: We need a boozy bomb to kick it, kick off the duel, lock up that cradle pin Luke Lilladol.
Squim: Busy can bomb? Yeah. i think You have to wrestle Busakis in that duel. You have to.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, hold on. Well, when you say that, but then also Brennan McCrone pinned him last year.
Squim: Brennan McCrone did pin him, but there's just, I give that 0.5% chance of happening over again.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. I'd, I'd, I'd throw out Buzakas. I'm sure by that point, the starter will have been determined and they will have made their choice.
Squim: i mean, they're going to just back and forth the whole season until, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Probably. It's probably going to be Shakur Rashid, Anthony Kassar situation.
Squim: I mean, with Buzagas, yeah, unless Buzagas just decides to not wrestle, just like throw throw out all the data from the Previous three seasons he's wrestled.
Cokeley Brothers: if It feels like he could be fundamentally a different wrestler at 125, but...
Squim: It could be.
Cokeley Brothers: We'll see. We'll see. um Yeah, and then 41 and 49, it's going to be rough. Like Ethan Stiles just needs to do damage control. Brandon Cannon. I'm giving Brandon Cannon a chance.
Cokeley Brothers: Patty Gallagher. I'm not giving him a chance. But Patty Gallagher, please keep it to a major. Please. um
Squim: Mm-hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: Carson.
Squim: I think I'm
Cokeley Brothers: Carson could be a toss-up. Carson could give a bonus.
Squim: going to give up on this.
Cokeley Brothers: who I believe my hands gets a little too mean on top. I don't know, dude.
Squim: Carson's good on bottom.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't know. its It scares me. ah Yeah, and then like 197. 197 could be rough.
Squim: Yeah, 197 could be rough.
Squim: Yeah, I mean, even with it yeah i got them winning even if with them winning the toss-ups, I still had it Penn State.
Cokeley Brothers: It would take. It's a bonus.
Squim: But hey, that's close.
Cokeley Brothers: you would need You would need a sick wrestler. You would need a throw. You would need some sort of...
Squim: some kind of ah Some kind of fall.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. You need something big. um Okay. I think that's like all that I have from this weekend. I know that there was other wrestling going on. Oh, Pitt.
Cokeley Brothers: Pitt had a crazy come-from-behind over Princeton. Did you see that?
Squim: No?
Cokeley Brothers: They were down 19-10.
Squim: Wait, I'd lose a lot.
Cokeley Brothers: Going into the last two matches. Max Stout gets a tech fall.
Cokeley Brothers: Or I think it was nineteen to nine Max Stout gets a tech fall. And Dayton Pitzer gets a pin. And they win 20-19. Or 21-19. Something like that.
Cokeley Brothers: Pretty miraculous stuff.
Squim: Pretty cool.
Cokeley Brothers: um I think all the Ferrari brothers wrestled this weekend. And AJ was the only one to lose.
Squim: How embarrassing.
Cokeley Brothers: How embarrassing. um
Cokeley Brothers: There's two 5-0 dual teams right now in the Big Ten. It's Purdue and Ohio State. Which one do you think is better? I don't know. It's a toss-up. Yeah, that's pretty much all I got.
Cokeley Brothers: There was a whole There was just about a a complete Ouroboros tale. um Or Ouroboros. Got 125 this weekend from national duels.
Squim: There are three teams from the national duels that – I'll throw four. Four teams from – five. Five teams from the national duels that excite me. Lehigh, Minnesota, Missouri.
Squim: lee you I already said Lehigh. Ohio State, Minnesota. Did I say Minnesota already? Virginia Tech.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, it's there's four teams.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, yeah, Virginia Tech. That's fair. That's fair. They got some guys. um Yeah. Did you say NC State?
Squim: I did not.
Cokeley Brothers: That's fair. That's fair, I guess.
Squim: I don't feel like they're, I don't, I feel like they're not, i don't know. Are they, can they really do anything with their lineup to,
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. i was I was kind of expecting more from Arrington and Jack.
Squim: I mean, yeah, for sure.
Cokeley Brothers: um Biscons looked fine. Biscons looked better than I thought he was going to look.
Squim: This is a they got
Cokeley Brothers: Will Denny kind of surprised me a little bit, but then they're, until they get Patrick Brophy and, and, and Isaac Trumbull in there, they are rough.
Squim: they they got they got an right now.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. And two 85 is until Trumbull shows up.
Squim: yeah yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But yeah, Virginia tech fire, Minnesota fire. Um,
Squim: Yeah, i mean, Minnesota, Virginia Tech, those are teams that, I mean, Virginia Tech for sure, especially like next year, they're going to be so good.
Cokeley Brothers: dude. It's a trophy team. It's a trophy team right there.
Squim: They're going tough. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I do wish, I wish we could have seen like a healthy Stanford there. I wish we could have seen a ah healthy Iowa state there, but I get it.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, I'm interested to see what kind of adjustments the national duels make this upcoming year. Um,
Squim: As far as what the process is,
Cokeley Brothers: process The the selection, the seeding, are they going to bump it up from more than 16 teams? Are they going to... I would keep it where it is. Are they going to change the prize pool? Are they going to... You know, is there... is there a what What adjustments are going be made, basically?
Cokeley Brothers: Because I'm sure they're going to change some things.
Squim: ah looking for those adjustments.
Cokeley Brothers: I want to see some adjustments. I want to see some more sequencing in their action, you know?
Squim: More sequencing.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Okay. Okay.
Squim: I would like that too. And that's what we're going to get.
Cokeley Brothers: We would like to do more of that.
Squim: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I think that's all I got.
Cokeley Brothers: You good?
Squim: I'm golden.
Cokeley Brothers: Hopefully, we're back with the with the third stooge next week.
Squim: Yeah. He was not at all sad about missing this podcast.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Cokeley Brothers: Dude. We'll talk.
Squim: He sent me a text.
Cokeley Brothers: We'll talk.
Squim: He sent us. He sent the text to the group. Did you see what it was?
Cokeley Brothers: No.
Squim: There's a link to buying a new MacBook.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh.
Squim: i hate I hate that so much, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: Why?
Squim: Don't send me, don't tell me I need to buy a new computer.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, because... Because...
Squim: Don't send me any links unless you are going to buy me one yourself. So my response was Christmas question mark? Nothing, got nothing back. What a surprise.
Cokeley Brothers: right. All right. Thank you everybody, for listening. Let us know what we missed. Because we missed something.
Squim: We did There was too much to get to.
Cokeley Brothers: And we don't know what it is. Too much to get to. Have a good day. Goodbye. Where's my stop button?
Squim: Bye.
