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Cokeley Brothers: All right, welcome to, uh, is that? No, it's not. Welcome to another episode of the Barn Session Podcast. We're here with a lot of wrestling because guess what?
Cokeley Brothers: It's starting to ramp back up. College season is this week. The first duel is in four days, three days from when you'll be hearing this. Uh, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: We got some wrestling to talk about.
Ryne: It's back. It's back, baby.
Cokeley Brothers: It's back. ah But freestyle season, the freestyle season just wrapped up today.
Reese: we're jam-packed
Cokeley Brothers: ah Real American Freestyle had another event happen this last weekend. And then we could talk about some college wrestling.
Ryne: It was a, and it was, dare I say, better than the first.
Cokeley Brothers: i i was um unavailable for the viewership of it. Did you watch?
Ryne: That's what most people are saying that production-wise better than the first one.
Cokeley Brothers: Interesting.
Ryne: I've seen, um seen a I guess I say most people.
Cokeley Brothers: The.
Ryne: I don't, I mean like I've seen people say that.
Reese: ah You didn't watch it.
Reese: Sammy, you watched it.
Cokeley Brothers: Didn't watch it.
Reese: You didn't watch it.
Cokeley Brothers: I didn't watch it. I checked the results and watched some of the highlights, but.
Reese: Neither did none of us watched it.
Reese: We're bad fans.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I was busy. All right. I was busy hanging out with a bunch of dudes. Okay.
Reese: That is not so none of your none of your.
Ryne: I've watched matches.
Ryne: matches
Reese: Cornell buddies were watching it either.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, this is a thing that I've learned. There is it um a majority of the time. Once you're done with wrestling, you're done with wrestling.
Reese: Yeah. We're not, we're, we're not exactly and the majority.
Cokeley Brothers: Plus we had, we had priorities. We had different priorities whenever we were in Arizona.
Reese: You're talking about, you're talking about golf, talking about the house.
Ryne: golf.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, we were at the golf course for like we're at the golf course for like six hours, which is too long.
Reese: Nice.
Ryne: Yeah, it sounds terrific.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, i have I don't even know if you can see it.
Reese: The wet dream run.
Cokeley Brothers: have ah I have a triangular tan line here now, wherever.
Ryne: Yes, sick.
Reese: Yeah, what is i see that.
Cokeley Brothers: It's brutal.
Reese: Why is it? Is it because you had a collared shirt on?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, because you got to have golf etiquette.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: Was Cam Simons just shitting on your inability to hit the ball?
Cokeley Brothers: No, he was actually, a he was, I would imagine he implemented the same coaching style that he does for his athletes. Cause it worked.
Reese: What was he saying?
Cokeley Brothers: I was picking it up, dude. i was picking it up. So.
Ryne: Sammy is a changed man. He used to think Greco-Roman wrestling is better than golf, and now he's now he's different.
Cokeley Brothers: Still do. um
Ryne: No, you don't.
Cokeley Brothers: i I, would rather, i would rather watch Greco, Greco Roman wrestling than golf.
Reese: I would too.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: You wouldn't, though.
Cokeley Brothers: Watching and playing golf are two two insanely different things.
Ryne: You wouldn't if you watched...
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: If you watched... If you watched what I watch, you wouldn't.
Cokeley Brothers: If you watched it the way I watched it, you'd understand.
Ryne: No, no, not the way I watch it.
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Ryne: gotta watch the Ryder Cup, man.
Cokeley Brothers: Let's get out of the golf.
Reese: We...
Ryne: You gotta watch the Ryder Cup.
Cokeley Brothers: want I don't want to get out of the golf.
Ryne: Lame.
Cokeley Brothers: I want to talk about U23s.
Reese: I never, you know, you don't, don't come at him with any, any other sports.
Cokeley Brothers: You bring other sports, it starts to piss me off.
Reese: Speaking of other sports, football.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay?
Reese: What about these football teams?
Cokeley Brothers: You wouldn't like me if I'm angry.
Cokeley Brothers: If you guys want to talk about Kurt Signetti, I'll do it.
Reese: Kurt Signetti. How about Kurt Signetti? Yeah.
Ryne: Future national champion right there.
Cokeley Brothers: i want I want the Hoosier smoking cigs for the rest of his life.
Ryne: Well, he did sign a nice hefty ah contract extension.
Reese: now
Cokeley Brothers: Eight year?
Ryne: yeah they they were
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: But it's he's about to...
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: those Those rumors were swirling about him going to Penn State and he's and they were like, nope.
Reese: Oh.
Cokeley Brothers: were canned They were canned. Basically, James Franklin got fired and then three days later, that contract got signed.
Ryne: Yeah, of course.
Reese: Yep. They laid their balls right on the...
Ryne: that I mean, that's what you do, right?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: We win.
Reese: Plopped them right on the desk.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: They're like, we have the money.
Ryne: that's
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. But yeah twenty three s ah
Ryne: we win
Cokeley Brothers: We win. So we we do this the sweep of age group ah team titles. ah USA does. We had ah let's count them up. One, two, three, four gold medal finishes in men's freestyle.
Cokeley Brothers: And then we had one bronze. So four golds, a bronze, and then bunch of other guys doing some other stuff.
Ryne: Man.
Ryne: Man, and honestly, it really ended up being a lot closer. Like, um with the way it was going, i was like, dude, we are going to destroy this team race.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: We took some lumps. We took some lumps with Rocco Welsh and, well, Josh Barr getting hurt, obviously.
Reese: yeah Okay, so I didn't know what happened to Josh. I couldn't find anything.
Ryne: It's a rib thing.
Reese: right
Ryne: Yeah.
Reese: What happened?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, he could he might have cracked a rib.
Ryne: He got gutted hard.
Reese: Was it the first round or what?
Cokeley Brothers: No, yeah I think it was...
Ryne: Nice. Semis. Semis.
Reese: You guys?
Ryne: No, quarters. Quarters. It was quarters. it was quarters.
Cokeley Brothers: quarterfinals.
Ryne: It was quarters.
Cokeley Brothers: It was a quarter cause it ended up putting him at 10th place.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, he's up three to one against, ah ah Iran and, uh, gives up a go behind with about a minute and a half left.
Ryne: Yep. Not fifth.
Cokeley Brothers: And on the first gut, when he turns back over, you can see him signaling for injury time and grabbing his rib and the Iranian just turns him into a pinwheel.
Ryne: You...
Ryne: kept going.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm.
Ryne: rat rent rent And honestly, some of those, I was like, all right, he didn't exactly go completely back over into a defensive position.
Reese: yeah like a shock
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I think it was mercy rules from the ref. I think the ref was just like, just get it over with. Because, ah you know, Josh wasn't goingnna going to try and defend it after that.
Cokeley Brothers: And i have I have my criticisms of the whole parterre situation, but I think I've been kind of talked down from them a little bit. Yeah.
Ryne: What were your criticisms?
Reese: what you mean
Cokeley Brothers: I feel like, and it's not fair to to only say that this is ah that you can only apply this to Nittany Lion Wrestling Club because they represented seven of the ten weights for us. But Parterre is insanely underutilized.
Cokeley Brothers: And then on top of that, our defense, if we come up against a guy who is particularly savvy on top, our defense is not um equitable to that.
Reese: It's not there.
Cokeley Brothers: So... I feel like we did see that. the The only guy who was really utilizing work on top was Jax Forrest. And the rest of the guys, like Mitchell Mezenbrink had a lot of opportunities to to transition from ah from a takedown to a turn.
Cokeley Brothers: And he was... It's like he was trying to hit three different turns all at the same time. He was just jumping from thing to thing and not really committing to anything. It's like...
Ryne: Mitchell Messenbrink has wrestling ADHD, I feel like.
Cokeley Brothers: you If you have...
Cokeley Brothers: A little bit, a little bit. And and then somebody somebody on Twitter was like, well, yeah, I mean, I imagine it's pretty hard to be proficient on top in folk style and freestyle. And I'm like, yeah, but Mitchell Mezenbrink isn't proficient in top in either.
Cokeley Brothers: He's only takedowns. That's all he does. ah And that's fine. And and and what the the thing that the argument that I was given is that you start on your feet. So...
Cokeley Brothers: you can have the world's best gut wrench, but if you can't take somebody down, then it doesn't mean anything, which which does have some value to it.
Reese: In freestyle.
Cokeley Brothers: But if you have one of the world's best gut wrenches and you're pretty good at getting takedowns, then all you need is a takedown to get it to end a match.
Cokeley Brothers: That like, don't, do you think James green would have the, the international success that he had if he didn't have the leg lace that he had?
Reese: Yes.
Ryne: He didn't. Yeah, because he didn't always have that leg lace.
Reese: No.
Cokeley Brothers: He didn't? I feel like he had it back in 2015.
Ryne: Now.
Reese: It was, I think that was, that was just like a bonus for him really.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Reese: I mean, he, I don't feel like he really used it internationally.
Ryne: He was pretty prof. He was pretty proficient on his feet.
Cokeley Brothers: okay Maybe that's not a good example then.
Reese: think I can think of like
Ryne: Same with Burroughs.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know who would be.
Ryne: Burroughs later developed a leg lace, but he was mostly double legs when he first started, you know.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. Yes. ah Dude, he did this. I told Reese about this. He would do this thing. where he would get a takedown. This was back when it was the three period system.
Cokeley Brothers: He would get a takedown and then he would do something on top that encouraged his opponents to try and reverse him. And then he would use that to get a step out. And so we would turn his takedowns from, two points to three points.
Cokeley Brothers: It was very bizarre what he was doing.
Ryne: Well, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: he He did it to Dennis Argus in two individual and two separate matches.
Reese: Burroughs?
Reese: It's so weird that that dude's name is Dennis.
Cokeley Brothers: And like multiple times.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. That, that and in David are the two most normal names to come from that.
Reese: David Bave.
Ryne: David, babe.
Reese: At least David is a biblical name.
Cokeley Brothers: Baev.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: the heck is Dennis?
Ryne: Dennis, isn't Dennis the menace?
Cokeley Brothers: But it's like
Ryne: Isn't he biblical?
Reese: Dennis the Menace. Philippines.
Cokeley Brothers: like, they had had the Dennis system in the Bible.
Reese: From the Book of Damascus. Is that a book?
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think so. I think that's a, I don't think,
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: You should know you went to Catholic school.
Reese: Phoenicians.
Ryne: Deuteronomy.
Reese: hopefully Hopefully Mr. D'Amico isn't watching this.
Cokeley Brothers: let me just, let me just glance over some of the, some of these results. Jack's for our, uh, Luke Lillard, gold medal finish at 57 kilos. That makes him, uh, the triple crown winner of age group world titles.
Cokeley Brothers: He's won you 17, you 20 and you 23s, uh, Jack's forest, one gold, huh?
Reese: Dang.
Reese: Jax?
Reese: Who'd you say? Mitchell?
Cokeley Brothers: No, Luke Lilladol.
Reese: Lou.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Jack's forced one gold.
Ryne: the first
Cokeley Brothers: It's his first world world title. um honest I was nervous about him. He teched his way into the finals and then he won a 17 to 14 barn burner. at the it's a very big
Ryne: Jackson when you 17th.
Cokeley Brothers: He took second. He got thrown in a headlock twice.
Ryne: ah Oh, that's right.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, I was like, this guy this guy is having a mental issue in medal matches at Worlds. Because he, early on in this match, in the finals match, um he just basically...
Cokeley Brothers: over under whips this guy over to his back and probably hasn't pinned, but he could have, he could have maybe pinned him. Um, and then the guy just drove him out and got takedowns to get the lead back. And then Jax Forrest got the lead back. There were probably like five lead exchanges.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, but Jax maybe has some issues closing, closing the door. We saw it against yes and guilty and that's high quality competition, but it's,
Reese: Easy. i feel like it's an easy thing to fix.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Especially like him.
Cokeley Brothers: Tightening up your defense, just train with Marcus Blaze a little bit and then you get it figured out. I don't know how he would train with Marcus, but he figured out.
Reese: Now, why him?
Cokeley Brothers: Huh?
Reese: Why'd you say Marcus?
Cokeley Brothers: Because he's like one of the hardest guys to take down.
Ryne: He
Cokeley Brothers: and Okay.
Reese: That's true.
Cokeley Brothers: Train with Dayton Fix. There we go.
Cokeley Brothers: That'll be easy.
Ryne: He does.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm? Yeah.
Ryne: he does
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: That's why you said it. i
Cokeley Brothers: yeah ah mar is Speaking of Marcus Blaze, he went 0-1. A little bit little bit of a surprise. ah ah maybe um Maybe considered an upset. It was a ah not an ideal matchup for him.
Cokeley Brothers: This ah guy from Kyrgyzstan just...
Ryne: just He was undersized.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah he Yes, one, Marcus was undersized, but two, this guy from Kyrgyzstan wanted to wrestle a 2-1 match, and that's what he got. He kind of got the flip coin of like passivity, step-out situation. ah And yeah.
Reese: These Kyrgyzstanis, tough.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, they're they're kind of...
Ryne: Was it not another Ulu guy?
Cokeley Brothers: Yes, well, I mean, I think they're like...
Reese: Ulu?
Ryne: Are they brothers or cousins?
Reese: How many are there?
Cokeley Brothers: I think a lot of them are. I think it's the same way that how like a lot of guys from Georgia, their last name, Anton Shvili, it's like the same thing.
Reese: and And that dude lost the next round.
Ryne: Oh, and Russia's Magomedov.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. ah they The ah Ulu lost, ah or Sharip Ulu lost in the semis to Jalalov.
Reese: oh that's right.
Cokeley Brothers: Umidjan from Uzbekistan.
Reese: John.
Cokeley Brothers: That was, i mean it was the same situation, but Jalalov had the size to be able to drive him around. Dude, and it further accentuated the fact that ah Part or grounded needs to just, you cannot use it to say, oh no, he dropped to his knees is not a step out.
Cokeley Brothers: It's like, it's very obvious what's happening. He was literally getting pushed out of bounds and he just like plopped down to his knees and slid out. It's like, what are we, what are we doing? Is, are we not rewarding that?
Cokeley Brothers: Are we just allowing for him to evade this position? and and that's it. That shouldn't be the way it happens to me.
Reese: How do you stop it? How do you fix it?
Cokeley Brothers: Redefine what grounded is.
Reese: Okay.
Ryne: You redefine it.
Reese: How?
Cokeley Brothers: Give me some time.
Ryne: Redefine it right now.
Reese: it
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, okay.
Ryne: on the On the spot.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Reese: Five, four, three, two, one.
Cokeley Brothers: Grounded can only be established. Grounded can only be established as a position ah whenever the ah whenever both wrestlers are down on more than two supporting points.
Ryne: That's it.
Reese: Wait,
Ryne: If one guy is on his feet while the other guy is trying to ground himself and then get, and he gets driven out, then it's one point for the guy on his feet.
Ryne: Simple.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, there's probably there's probably some loopholes to that, but...
Reese: So I rambles. That's always think about like scrambles and like when when action takes them to the the edge, what do you do?
Ryne: Like what?
Cokeley Brothers: Right. i saw i mean I saw a position that was like that went out of bounds they didn't score it, and I'm like, that's fair. I understand not giving a point in that position because it's also not fully clear who went out first.
Ryne: Yeah.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: So, like, just leave that be.
Ryne: Man.
Cokeley Brothers: Whatever. Okay, that's fine. um But... I think you know there needs to be some sort of, it doesn't have to be a major adjustment, some sort of mitigation of people abusing the grounded rule.
Cokeley Brothers: And Americans do it too. And I don't like seeing it because it doesn't it's not good wrestling. i don't It's not eye-pleasing.
Reese: David Taylor.
Cokeley Brothers: So I want it to go away. um But I mean, honestly, a guy that I was ah guy that i was particularly calling out was Yanni.
Ryne: He's talking about Jaden Cox. so a
Reese: Yanni.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, when when he when he wrestled Amuzad at the World Cup, he would just drop into a front headlock and hold an elbow on the underhook and just go ahead, push me.
Reese: Dirty dog.
Reese: Yeah. I
Reese: um don't even remember that match.
Ryne: Nothing will ever...
Reese: yeah They were at the World Cup.
Ryne: Yeah, Yanni definitely should have won that match.
Reese: When we were there.
Ryne: Yes.
Reese: Oh yeah, he hit that. Sick duck.
Cokeley Brothers: That duck.
Ryne: Mm-hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. Yes. He definitely could have. I mean, yeah, it's a match you could have
Ryne: No grounding situation will be worse than Jaden Cox, David Taylor.
Reese: Oh, dude.
Ryne: Nothing. Ever. Nothing ever.
Reese: Sickening. tom Tommy or tom william Thomas Williams. I don't know how he liked. I don't know how he preferred it.
Cokeley Brothers: was
Reese: Thomas Williams. Remember him? Benedictine coach?
Ryne: From Benedictine. Yeah.
Reese: Yeah, yeah,
Ryne: I just saw him this weekend at, at, uh,
Reese: Oh, I thought you were talking about Thomas.
Ryne: No.
Ryne: um talking about Thomas.
Reese: Tommy. thank you jump to Tommy Williams.
Ryne: No, no.
Reese: but Thomas.
Ryne: Thomas Williams.
Reese: He was like, dude, this guy, he was like totally impartial when we were watching it. And he goes, he was like beside himself that they didn't call Jaden. And that that was just proof enough for me that like, you know, it was it was not right.
Reese: It was not the right thing to do.
Ryne: Egregious. Yeah.
Reese: Degrigious, erroneous.
Ryne: Egregious.
Cokeley Brothers: So um I'm going to say this. I'm pretty sure Grounded wasn't a thing back then. Back in 2017. I don't think it was.
Reese: be What?
Ryne: What do you mean? It was a totally a thing. Yes, it was. If you were down on a knee and you got pushed out of bounds, it was no points. Yes.
Cokeley Brothers: In 2017.
Reese: I mean, he wasn't getting, he wasn't, du I think the the main thing was like how he was wrestling from his knees and riding around.
Cokeley Brothers: And sliding all over the place.
Ryne: And then sliding, sliding out of bounds.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: And then what happened is they went out of bounds, but David went out first on his feet and they gave a point to Jaden.
Reese: Negative wrestling.
Cokeley Brothers: That happened.
Reese: Yeah,
Ryne: Well, yeah, that's, that's fine.
Reese: that did happen.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm pretty sure grounded was not a thing back then.
Reese: That's not fine.
Ryne: Pretty sure it was.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm trying to look it up right now.
Ryne: It just wasn't called that.
Reese: Chat.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe.
Reese: When are we going get this chat going, man? I guess we would have to do it live.
Cokeley Brothers: but you want to have a live show? would need to do it not at 830 at night.
Reese: So soon you're saying.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, hang on. I'm looking this up in the meantime. Um, Marcus blaze lost. He went on one PJ Duke took bronze. He lost a Kanan Haybatov in, in the semis 14 to four.
Ryne: Yeah, that was kind of a lopsided loss for the Duke star.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I think, I think the, uh, I didn't, I didn't get to see this when I was traveling at the time.
Reese: It was like a one exchange, wasn't it? Kind of thing.
Cokeley Brothers: What I heard was that he, ah it was a closer match than the score shows and that, um, if they wrestle again, it's going to be a tight one.
Reese: He gave up, he gave up like three or four turns, I think, in one, off of one takedown. Like three turns, I think.
Reese: And that's what, in Parterre, he gave up like three or four turns.
Cokeley Brothers: um Okay. Oh wait. Partair. Ooh. Hmm. Interesting.
Reese: Hey, but Top got like a trap, trap arm gut.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm.
Reese: I don't remember how he took him down.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm. Interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. More parterre problems.
Reese: I'm surprised you didn't see that. that was I think SNL Wrestling tweeted that.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe. I mean, i i don't see I don't see everything, but we talk basically every day.
Reese: you follow You love that guy.
Ryne: I like him.
Reese: Exactly.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: ah And he comments on all of our podcast episodes, so we love him.
Reese: He's a dog.
Cokeley Brothers: ah You know, despite his collegiate allegiances. That's okay.
Reese: Here it is. I found it.
Cokeley Brothers: Mitchell Mezenbrink, gold medal finish, including a win over 70-kilogram senior world champ Yoshinosuke Aoyagi. 7-4 in the semis.
Reese: Aoyagi. So we, that's how we pronounce it, huh? I hate that.
Cokeley Brothers: I believe so. I don't think it's Aoyagi. I think it's Aoyagi.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I think I could be wrong.
Reese: I mean, that's what I heard. I heard, i heard a Spey saying that or whoever, you know, and he's kind of the arbiter. Spey's the arbiter of pronunciations, I feel like.
Cokeley Brothers: to
Reese: What you doing there, Ryan?
Cokeley Brothers: um I'm um'm going to have to look up this situation with parter later.
Reese: Ryan.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, but yes. Um, He won in the semis. And then other than that, he teched everybody 12 to 10, Oh, 12 to 12, two in the finals. Um, looks phenomenal.
Reese: Who talking about?
Cokeley Brothers: We've got, we're going to have, we're going have a selection of great wrestlers, um, at 74 kilos in 2028. And they're going to be young.
Cokeley Brothers: Cause I think Levi Haynes is going to work his way down to it to down the weight class too. And the kid's only 21. We haven't even gotten to the fact that he also won a world title.
Reese: Down to 74? You think Haynes will?
Ryne: or where Where else is he going to go?
Cokeley Brothers: I think he'll work his way down.
Reese: You think Haynes is going...
Ryne: Where else is he going to Reese?
Reese: I don't know, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think 86 is for him.
Reese: I think he's too big.
Cokeley Brothers: I think he'll slim down. I do, but I could be wrong. I i think it's an option. that's That's what I'll say. um I don't know if 86 would be a better fit for him.
Reese: on
Cokeley Brothers: And I guess I'm kind of in the same spot with O'Toole. I don't know what he would want to do. But like if it was David Carr, Mitchell Mezenbrink, Keegan O'Toole, and Levi Haynes 74 kilos,
Reese: Yeah, probably go to 74. Oh,
Cokeley Brothers: That would be a gnarly set for the trials.
Reese: oh baby.
Cokeley Brothers: And James Green says he's staying up at 74 kilograms.
Reese: Throw in D Lockett. Freaking Meyer, maybe.
Cokeley Brothers: Meyer Shapiro.
Cokeley Brothers: If he can get it together. ah But yeah, and then Levi Haynes.
Reese: Who else? I mean, who knows?
Cokeley Brothers: Who?
Reese: I'm just saying there.
Ryne: he said He said, who knows who else?
Reese: I mean, et cetera, et cetera.
Cokeley Brothers: Huh?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, right.
Ryne: The Dukester?
Cokeley Brothers: Absolutely. Duke, BJ.
Ryne: Yanni?
Reese: Duke, fricking Duke, Kasich.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't think Yanni's going to do 74. Maybe, but I'm not. I don't think so. um Levi Haynes.
Ryne: Julian Ramirez? Julian Ramirez?
Cokeley Brothers: and you're like Okay.
Reese: Julian Ramirez.
Ryne: Says he's back.
Reese: He's wrestling for Puerto Rico, Portugal, Cuba.
Ryne: Oh, that's right.
Cokeley Brothers: it would be Cuba. He would be Cuba, if anything. He is Cuban from Florida. Levi Haynes won 79 kilograms. Pretty much handled everybody. he The most notable match is a 7-0 win over Madi Yousefi from Iran.
Cokeley Brothers: The same Iranian that beat ah Will Henkel at U20s.
Ryne: Oh, that match was going to be so close.
Cokeley Brothers: Ryan, what did you say?
Ryne: People were saying that match was going be close.
Reese: He was mocking.
Cokeley Brothers: um i I mean, i think this this was this was Levi's toughest challenge.
Ryne: It wasn't. And it wasn't.
Cokeley Brothers: And I think a lot of people, myself included, did not give Levi Haynes the credit that he's clearly shown that he deserves with how good he is.
Ryne: Yeah, I mean, he he pretty much earned it at Senior Worlds.
Reese: but was this What was the score?
Ryne: Just saying.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Ryne: I'm just going to go ahead and say that I knew he was going to crush that guy.
Cokeley Brothers: But I think...
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Okay.
Reese: Yeah, Sammy, you're sounding like it's like, it's like Indiana.
Ryne: There's levels. There's levels.
Reese: It's like Indiana football, you know? All these people, like, you've seen, people just won't give Indiana the credit they deserve. Levi's Indiana football. He's already earned it.
Reese: He's earned it, and you need to just accept that. He's he's a contender at every tournament he's in.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, i'm um I'm all for it now. I would genuinely ask the question, if Kyle Dake were to drop to 79 kilos, would he beat Levi Haynes?
Reese: I don't know anymore.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Ryne: E yes, yes.
Cokeley Brothers: i don't know.
Reese: What was up with that?
Cokeley Brothers: It's much more of a question now than one.
Reese: co-op match.
Cokeley Brothers: like i wouldn't have ah had i wouldn't I would have said absolutely Kyle Dake is going to beat Levi Haynes at the start of the summer.
Ryne: hundred percent 100% I'm with you. I understand that the match would be extremely close. I would put my money on take.
Reese: Probably I would too.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but
Reese: What do you think about that Makov match he had? It felt like he, ah I don't know, he just left points out on the table.
Cokeley Brothers: I saw I heard zero takedowns were scored.
Reese: Yeah, he just pushed them out the whole time.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, he wrestled, he wrestled, uh, cruiserweight, which is like one 90, right?
Reese: was so lame.
Reese: Yeah, I guess it could have been a little too too heavy for some, so like, to, like, you know, finish explosively or whatever.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: for some dake bombs.
Cokeley Brothers: i think I think the weight was a bit of an but like ah was a factor. We'll get to Real American Freestyle. We'll talk about that. ah Let's just wrap it up because that's that is kind of the...
Cokeley Brothers: Well, there's there's one more notable thing to so to say. um Rocco Welsh went two and one He lost to Rahmani from Iran 7-3. The same Rahmani that Max McInerney beat 5-5.
Cokeley Brothers: And so now we have a data point to to work off of. Ryan, what do we think about that?
Reese: You upset somebody on Twitter when you posted that.
Cokeley Brothers: Hmm?
Ryne: But
Cokeley Brothers: What?
Reese: You didn't see, you didn't read the comments in that post.
Ryne: what was the data point?
Cokeley Brothers: Uh-uh.
Reese: You said maybe an early indicator of the pecking order at 184 and somebody was like, you didn't need to include that last sentence.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't remember seeing that at all.
Reese: Some softy, you know, some guy who's
Cokeley Brothers: Some soft Nittany Lion fan.
Reese: probably a Nittany Lion fan.
Ryne: So wait, Zack Ryder beat somebody that beat Rocco Welsh?
Cokeley Brothers: Max McAnally.
Reese: Yeah. Yeah.
Ryne: Oh, Max McAnally. Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: ah He said, you don't have to say the last sentence.
Reese: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Most people, though, were saying stuff like, I think Rocco beats Ferrari. And yeah, the pecking order is Ferrari, Max, Welsh, Aiden.
Reese: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: 184 is going to be a killer weight this year. I love it. Max over everybody. so
Reese: I wonder what Ryder, I would include Ryder in that commenter.
Cokeley Brothers: I would include Ryder before Aiden, I think.
Ryne: Oh, hmm.
Reese: i don't know. Aiden should have beat, he was right there to beat McAnally and Barr, really.
Ryne: He beat McAnally once.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, my my my my problem, and I think it could be tainted data, ah but my problem with Aiden is the fact that he didn't have a great college redshirt season.
Reese: He did beat, he beat McAnally.
Ryne: And he's beaten Barr before.
Reese: He's beaten Barr before. him
Reese: In a while.
Cokeley Brothers: But I guess it was at 197.
Reese: Well, he had to wait to losses. How
Cokeley Brothers: So...
Reese: many losses did he have?
Reese: I'm pretty sure he only took. He only took losses at Midlands, I think.
Cokeley Brothers: ah He went So
Reese: Oh.
Cokeley Brothers: so do you want to retract that?
Reese: Well, I have to. I have no choice.
Cokeley Brothers: By the way, how do we feel about WrestleStat?
Reese: but So I don't know what's happened with WrestleStrike.
Ryne: ah They just changed look. look
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. um Okay, so two things. rees He never wrestled at Midlands. um He wrestled at the Soldier Salute.
Reese: Oh, I was thinking the Soldier Salute.
Cokeley Brothers: he lost He had one loss at Soldier Salute, three losses in the duels.
Reese: Same thing.
Cokeley Brothers: He had a 12-9 loss to Andy Smith, an 8-5 loss to Wyatt Volker.
Reese: Ouch.
Cokeley Brothers: ah He got majored by Steven Buchanan, and he got majored by Dustin Plott.
Reese: Dogs. Those are dogs.
Reese: Interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: He got majored by Dustin plot, but Dustin plot lost to Max McAnally.
Reese: Dustin Plott majored him.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: What was the score?
Cokeley Brothers: 18 to seven.
Reese: I think he just needs to clean some stuff up. And yeah, don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: I agree. Yeah.
Reese: We'll see.
Cokeley Brothers: Now he had, he beat Isaiah Salazar and he beat Zach Bronicle. So he had some good wins at one 97 well. um We'll see what he's like at 184.
Cokeley Brothers: It could be a totally different story, but it's also going to be there's.
Reese: Well, I mean, he wrestled Plot in 84, right? and That was at 84.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but I that's that's where I think the freestyle versus folk style difference is going to come into play. i think that favors Max.
Reese: I agree. Probably.
Cokeley Brothers: But we'll see.
Reese: Even though you would think that it wouldn't, but, know.
Cokeley Brothers: We.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: i don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: ah just For some reason, some guys in freestyle, they just wrestled differently. they just they're They're more open, which is weird.
Reese: Well, you think that Aiden, like you can make more mistakes in folk style versus, real I mean, not necessarily. You can expose, get exposed in folk style without giving up points, but I guess.
Cokeley Brothers: You can be positionally looser in folk style, but in freestyle, you can mount a comeback more easily.
Reese: Right.
Cokeley Brothers: There's your trade-off.
Reese: It seemed like Aiden had a tough time. ah He just gave up a lot of points.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Reese: A lot of back and forth exchanges.
Cokeley Brothers: Can't, can't do that too much.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Can't do too much of that. um And then to wrap it up, Josh Barr went two and one injured his rib. ah Jervis, Jervis. I want to say it's Jervis.
Cokeley Brothers: Jervis lost or went one and one. He lost to Rizabeck Aitmukhan, who is a senior world champ. So it's a,
Reese: Did iMucon win it?
Cokeley Brothers: It's a good loss. No, I'm a con loss to rush.
Ryne: well
Cokeley Brothers: Yashida and the semis.
Reese: Oh, that's right. Who is is it?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Yoshida? Is this the guy that beat Snyder?
Cokeley Brothers: Yes.
Ryne: Mm-hmm.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: He is Japanese with an Iranian father. So every time he's out there wrestling, the Iranians are cheering him on, which is cool.
Reese: turn
Cokeley Brothers: Except for probably against the Iranians.
Reese: Whoa, wrestling style looks crazy.
Cokeley Brothers: And then Daniel Herrera took fifth. He made it to the semis, got tech by Azerbaijan and then lost 14 to three in bronze medal match. not Not a bad showing, though. I'm pretty sure um this is this is some newer experience for Daniel Herrera.
Cokeley Brothers: Andy's in redshirt this year. so Solid stuff for Iowa State.
Reese: Herrera was the guy. don't know why I thought it was one of the...
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah
Reese: one of the... yeah
Ryne: he Herrera won it.
Reese: I thought it was one of the Nittany Lion...
Ryne: At U23s. Excuse me.
Reese: one of those twins.
Cokeley Brothers: Wasn't Mirasola. Nope. But I do think...
Ryne: It probably would have been if Marisolo was on the third on the ladder, but he wasn't.
Cokeley Brothers: Did he even wrestle at seniors?
Ryne: I don't know. Probably not this year, huh?
Cokeley Brothers: don't think so. um I do think we probably won't see Josh Barr for maybe the first two weeks. I bet he'll still be healing up and recovering. And so we'll see. Connor Mirasola...
Cokeley Brothers: Get the nod at 197. um And who knows? Maybe that opens the door for... There's a little bit of... Who's going to be the starter here? Probably not. ah I'm not ruling it out.
Cokeley Brothers: That is...
Ryne: I think we'll probably see more of Mira Sola earlier until Josh is healthy.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes, 100%. You got um
Ryne: And then if Mira Sola is doing really, really well, then they're going to give Josh they're goingnna give josh some some goes too, and then I have to rest off.
Cokeley Brothers: to ask the question.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm-hmm.
Ryne: Close doors, you know? And if word gets through Pat Minio, he'll post it and then delete it.
Cokeley Brothers: one fifty s
Cokeley Brothers: yeah That way and 157 are Penn State's too. I mean, unless they have a plan at 157, but I'm not going to ask him.
Ryne: they can they can play with red shirts we can play with red shirts at 157 at least
Cokeley Brothers: Huh? Yeah. Yes. um
Reese: you got a contemporary way
Cokeley Brothers: ah Does Ono get a red shirt?
Ryne: you're you're the one in on that that's that's uh it's on you brother yeah i thought you knew that information
Cokeley Brothers: Me? To know that if he gets a red shirt?
Cokeley Brothers: I don't. I don't think I know that.
Ryne: I thought you were saying he wasn't earlier.
Reese: room
Ryne: You said that he only has two years of eligibility with no red shirt.
Cokeley Brothers: I think...
Ryne: I thought that's what you said. Maybe you didn't.
Cokeley Brothers: i think the situation was if they get him two years of eligibility that he won't red shirt. I think. I don't know. I don't know. I'll have to inquire.
Cokeley Brothers: and don't know who to ask.
Reese: Dude, I like russ i like this this change in WrestleStat.
Ryne: When did that?
Cokeley Brothers: It's a very.
Reese: I'm a fan. ah wish you could I wish these pickems were for money. That would be cool.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Willie tweeted today that. ah He's working on getting betting lines for college wrestling.
Reese: Yes. I mean, we've had them before.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: we I mean, we do have them, don't we? there They sites. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: think it's for very specific stuff.
Reese: sites
Cokeley Brothers: Select stuff.
Reese: yeah There was one there was one there were years where like it was full fledged betting and I have made like 300 bucks and never got never got the money back.
Reese: It was on bet DSI.
Cokeley Brothers: Tough.
Reese: That was the website.
Ryne: can i
Reese: Give me my money.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes, i remember that.
Reese: All my money.
Ryne: Can i circle back to the grounding stuff?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Ryne: I have asked Grok on Twitter.
Cokeley Brothers: Sure.
Reese: What?
Ryne: I have asked him. and two separate In two different ways, I asked, when was the grounding rule established in freestyle wrestling? He says 2013 and then sent me a link. And then I asked him another. way I said, stepping out of bounds results in one point being awarded to the wrestler who stayed in bounds.
Ryne: When was it established that being on your knees or grounded and going out of bounds will not result in one point being awarded? Again, he said 2013.
Reese: right when they changed the, when they went to
Ryne: The new weight classes.
Reese: the new rules or whatever, yeah, two point takedowns and et cetera.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: But it's been in like the last six years that they've done it differently.
Reese: What makes you say that?
Cokeley Brothers: Something has changed because that is when I really started to hear the the bitching and moaning about Grounded.
Ryne: Yeah, I don't...
Reese: would say sometimes it just picks up steam.
Ryne: That's because that's because it just became. yeah that's because more and more people started like figuring out like, oh, I can wrestle this way and not give up a point. No, yes, yes.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, but...
Reese: And sometimes people, it takes like a few people like have to point it out and then it catches on like, you know, 2018.
Cokeley Brothers: what What was the first year that Siedekov beat Burroughs?
Reese: twenty eighteen
Ryne: no
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Ryne: yes yes
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, when he drove Burroughs out of bounds, Burroughs was sliding on his knees. With the way they currently implement grounding, that wouldn't have been a step out.
Reese: He was not on his knees, bro. He was like dragging his like his, he had like laces down.
Ryne: he was kind of He was kind of in on an attack there, wasn't he?
Reese: <unk> not on his knees.
Cokeley Brothers: I could be wrong. Now I have to pull it up.
Reese: He was like sprawling, but like up from what I remember.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, he was in on a single leg and and Burrows had sprawled and yeah.
Reese: wasn't.
Ryne: and That'll be one point every time.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: No, it wasn't. I watched Jalalab do it to this Sharif Ulu guy and he slid out on his knees and they said, no, that's grounded.
Reese: I want to see that. Where can I find that?
Ryne: I want to see that as well.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, i will I will get these pieces of data pulled up for the two of you.
Ryne: Because then that is a gross mis...
Cokeley Brothers: if it If it appeases the...
Ryne: That is a yeah is gross... That is a gross misrepresentation of the rules then.
Cokeley Brothers: No, but he's on his knees, so it's grounded.
Reese: But if OK, if it's the same, if it's
Ryne: But it's always been if you've been in on a leg Yeah.
Reese: If it's like what Burroughs, what Citicorp did to Burroughs, then it's Bridges.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: It's I think it is two different things. I think it is two different things, but i don't know, dude.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: It, I gotta, I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask some people.
Ryne: Here's, here's what I'm gonna, here's what I'm gonna, here's what I'm gonna tell you though, too.
Cokeley Brothers: Cause I think, historical I think our historical information is off. Okay.
Reese: He doesn't believe you.
Ryne: Interpretations, interpretations change all the time.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm.
Ryne: Not the necessarily the rules themselves, but the interpretation of the rule.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. And so I think, I think we're getting closer to what it is because there was a point where they decided like grounded, I think has been a thing for a while, but defining what grounded is, I think has been redefined recently.
Ryne: Since 2013.
Cokeley Brothers: think the, what, like where, where they drew the line at what is and isn't grounded was changed recently to make it clearer.
Ryne: Sure.
Ryne: i'm just I'm just saying that's why Jaden Cox went down on a knee to avoid David Taylor taking him down or going out of bounds. It's because he knew. I'm going to slip and slide out of bounds on my sweaty knees and not get called for it.
Cokeley Brothers: be i just don't remember i don't know i don't remember my my mind is slipping
Ryne: My mind kept being like, don't call him for going out of bounds, then hit him for passivity. flee in the hold, something.
Cokeley Brothers: no fleeing yeah fleeing uh let's let's kick it on over to real american freestyle Because I have some thoughts about these results. I have some some some praises I want to sing.
Cokeley Brothers: Some...
Ryne: seeing them Sing the highest of praises to the man.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Nate Jackson. Making the Hoosiers proud.
Ryne: Kram. Kram, baby.
Cokeley Brothers: Making the Hoosiers proud, baby. That's what I'm freaking talking about. All he does is slay Penn State greats. That's all he does. That was awesome. ah He beat Carter Starachi
Ryne: he's You know, he's not even... He's not the first Hoosier to do it, though. Hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: No, DJ did it. DJ Washington also did it. But I was thinking like, because I drooop i drew a parallel between...
Reese: Bone nickel.
Cokeley Brothers: uh, Nate Jackson beating Bo Nickel and DJ Washington beating Carter Starachi. Cause they are two very similar, ah storylines within college wrestling. Um, but that was probably my favorite result of the night.
Reese: Oh, Sammy. Oh, Sammy.
Cokeley Brothers: Huh?
Reese: You are so dead wrong about the Sitikov. He had Burroughs picked up in the air.
Cokeley Brothers: He had him up in the air.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe it's a dip. Maybe it's the other match then. I feel like there was one where it was like he's trying really hard to be on the ground.
Reese: We'll see the next year. Let's see if
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe. Or I'm just fucking wrong. That could be it too.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, let's go through the rest of these, um the rest of these match results. Caden Henschel beat Keelan Jimison, AKA Muggsy bowl junk, teched him 11 to one in 30 seconds.
Cokeley Brothers: So the people didn't need to see any more of that than they needed to see.
Reese: In 31 seconds, you said?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh no, no, it was in the third period. That's my bad. Third period, 30 seconds.
Ryne: Third period.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, they do two minutes, two minute period, three, two minute periods.
Ryne: I guess I didn't realize that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Okay. So, he he, in the second second time they wrestled Burrows and Sitikoff, he was sliding back and kind of on his knees up until he got to the very edge.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know why they do that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Sitikoff got him up to his feet.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Interesting. um So I'm just wrong what is what the deal is. Yep. Yes. Confirmed. um
Reese: challenge
Cokeley Brothers: Helen Maroulis beat Samantha Stewart 6-0.
Reese: lost Of course he is.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, Austin DeSanto beat Nico Megalutis, 10-0. Nathan Tomasello beat Matt Ramos for the second time, 5-3. ah Sal Kazanov beat James Green 4-4. And this is something I want to stop and talk about for a second.
Ryne: the to Oops, sorry.
Cokeley Brothers: I think James Green, I think James Green is a real thing at 74 kilograms.
Ryne: Duh.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Yeah, but like better at 74 than he is at 70.
Reese: Hmm.
Ryne: We am.
Reese: Maybe.
Reese: maybe
Ryne: Maybe. Yeah, I need more data to agree with you there.
Cokeley Brothers: i just I remember him working his way up to 74 for 2020 and then deciding last minute to get back down to 65. Well, when they delayed it, not so last minute. But I think his body does better at 74, especially now.
Cokeley Brothers: and I think the people were like, oh man, this is a washed world medalist for you the US wrestling. One of the better guys at 74 kilos. This is going to be a ah ah nightmare.
Cokeley Brothers: It was four to four.
Reese: Four to four.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, not bad.
Reese: So he, did he win he lost?
Cokeley Brothers: He lost on criteria.
Ryne: No, he lost.
Cokeley Brothers: There's a criteria loss, but I still think it's a notable result.
Ryne: He lost.
Cokeley Brothers: And a...
Ryne: Lost a big sock.
Cokeley Brothers: ah a good sign for James green at 74 kilos. And he said something to the effect of love, you know, was great to get to wrestle up at this weight. This is where I'll be staying. 74 kilograms is my home,
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: which I love to see also at that weight. David Carr, um, teched, uh, Hussein from Egypt, 18 six.
Cokeley Brothers: Again, Nate Jackson beat Carter Starachi We love that. Kyle Dake beat Boris McCoy of seven to one Jake Varner beat Pat Downey And Mason Paris teched Alexander Romanov 10-0.
Cokeley Brothers: So two of these matches were title defenses. Or no, title bouts. One was a title defense. David Carr wrestled for the 165-pound title Which is interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: Was that... Did somebody vacate that weight or something?
Cokeley Brothers: Now I have to look.
Reese: Heck if I know wasn't NATO, the title defense.
Ryne: hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Nathan Tomasella was the title defense. David Carr wrestled at welterweight.
Ryne: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Was there a welterweight at RAF01?
Ryne: Maybe not. Mm hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: No, there was not.
Cokeley Brothers: There you go. um Yes. So there were two title bouts.
Cokeley Brothers: um Let me look up. And they've also announced Real American Freestyle 3.
Cokeley Brothers: It's going to be in Chicago. There have been two and a half matches announced. announced The first is...
Cokeley Brothers: Michael Chandler first Chad Mendes.
Ryne: Chad Mendes.
Reese: Who's Chad Mendes?
Ryne: Yeah. They both are NCAA All-Americans.
Cokeley Brothers: Who's Chad Mendes?
Ryne: Chad Mendes was an All-American for Cal Poly, I believe. And Michael Chandler for Missouri?
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: What years?
Ryne: Mendes, I want to say, it was like 2008, 2009, maybe.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Okay.
Reese: Chandler was like right after, right after asking was there, it was like oh six or seven or something or no, no, like Oh eight.
Cokeley Brothers: Now, uh, yeah, he wrestled for Cal Poly.
Ryne: They're around the same.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, he was an all American at 125 and then 141 as a senior. So two time all American.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, he took second at 2008 and at 141 lost to Jay Jaggers.
Ryne: That's right.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Ryne: i Yeah, I remember that match. I remember sitting by this old lady who was like, come on, Mendez.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Ryne: You can do it. And I was like, no.
Cokeley Brothers: Where were you, Ryan?
Reese: And then he got jaggered.
Cokeley Brothers: Wait, what, what, what location?
Ryne: Uh, that was St.
Reese: Philly.
Ryne: Louis.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes, sir. Man, look at that memory.
Ryne: That was 2008.
Cokeley Brothers: 17 years ago.
Ryne: That was my very first one.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't remember where my very first one was. I want to say St. Louis, but maybe not.
Reese: Mine was St.
Ryne: Do you remember what year?
Reese: Louis.
Cokeley Brothers: ah So that was the first match.
Ryne: you remember what year, Sammy?
Cokeley Brothers: Huh?
Ryne: Do you remember what year?
Cokeley Brothers: No, I have no idea. I don't.
Reese: Wow.
Ryne: Really?
Reese: How are you? What? What's wrong with you?
Ryne: Wow. That's shocking.
Cokeley Brothers: Because i don't know.
Ryne: Which one was your first one?
Reese: 2012 St. Louis.
Ryne: So Sammy's sey's samy's
Reese: I remember it cause it was awesome.
Ryne: first one had to have been shortly after that.
Reese: I mean, 2013, where you in Des Moines?
Cokeley Brothers: I think it was 2013.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, because then I had to, I was there for like the first two sessions and then I had to go back for sub-districts.
Ryne: But Dad, but thats that's right. Dad took him for sub-districts. That's right. I remember that.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, yeah.
Ryne: That was your first one.
Reese: Des Moines was less memorable.
Cokeley Brothers: I have a photo with Dan Gable.
Ryne: Less memorable?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I remember seeing, um remember seeing a lightweight for Cornell, like, wow, that guy's pretty good.
Reese: don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: And I found out who it was and shot me here.
Ryne: Less memorable, Reese? We sat in the in the governor of Iowa's box and watched ah Kyle Dake beat David Taylor.
Reese: Okay, that was the year that happened. But I just meant like the experience outside of the wrestling.
Ryne: Less memorable? No.
Reese: The St.
Ryne: Yeah, probably.
Reese: Louis experience outside of the arena was a lot of fun.
Ryne: Dude, yeah. you I mean, man. And then it just died. One year, it was back in St.
Reese: Dude, I know like my...
Ryne: Louis, and it was just not the same anymore.
Reese: That was like the bar was like sky high. That was like my first experience when i was like, wow, St. Louis is amazing. Like that, that ah mall was awesome.
Ryne: And it was like, it was like that. Yeah. And it was like that. And and honestly, 2012 might've been the last year that it was ever like that.
Reese: That's what it felt like because they definitely didn't have
Ryne: Cause it was like that. It was like that in 2008. And then again in 2000 and I think 10 was the next time it was there. Maybe. 10, not 11, 10. ten
Cokeley Brothers: Interesting. um
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, so the second match that was announced for Real American um real american Freestyle, because they said when they announced the location a week or two ago that Bo Bassett going to be on the card, and he's wrestling Darian Caldwell.
Ryne: I know. i I mean, I despise it with all my heart.
Cokeley Brothers: And I put it out there. Darian Caldwell won his NCAA title in 2009. Bo Bassett was three. Okay.
Ryne: That's not even the stat to talk about, really, although it is an interesting stat.
Reese: He's a toddler.
Ryne: The real stat to talk about is the fact that Darian Caldwell hasn't run won a wrestling match in ages. How old was Bo Bassett the last time Darian Caldwell won a wrestling match?
Reese: How many years?
Reese: I bet he was seven. I bet. Yeah. yeah i mean, when was it? When was last time he went at 2013?
Ryne: What a win one match at Midlands, then get pinned by Ryland Lubeck and then injury default from the tournament.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm going to pull it up.
Reese: I don't even know.
Cokeley Brothers: This is m MMA.
Reese: Well, so his senior year was what 2011?
Cokeley Brothers: This is freestyle. 2012 U.S. Olympic team trials. He beat Jacob Wadley.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: so but would have been six.
Reese: So was his last win.
Ryne: The, where was that?
Cokeley Brothers: 2012 U.S. Olympic team trials.
Ryne: There's, he didn't even qualify for team trials in 2012. So that,
Cokeley Brothers: I am telling you what I am looking at.
Ryne: so that
Ryne: Huh, that can't be right.
Cokeley Brothers: And then he...
Reese: Is he, he didn't qualify at the last chance. Is that why you said goes he was, he was at last chance.
Ryne: No.
Cokeley Brothers: This... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Ryne: He got beat by Surtzitz and then he got beat by someone else.
Cokeley Brothers: I think this is the last chance because it says he lost to Jason Sertzitz and Dustin McCauley.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: Oh, he did get beat by Destin.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: That's right.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Ryne: So he got beat by a high schooler and a like kid who had only been out of high school for one year.
Cokeley Brothers: So he's going to be...
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, so this is going to be his second loss to a high schooler. It's going to be against high schoolers.
Ryne: Oh yeah.
Reese: Old man.
Cokeley Brothers: Tough.
Ryne: I was really thinking they were going to give him like, I was hoping like, I don't know, give him a rematch against um Princeton kid Kolodzic for crying out loud.
Reese: man.
Reese: Darien.
Cokeley Brothers: you beat the brakes off of Kolodzic.
Reese: Oh, no. bow yeah. You think Bo would beat the brakes off closet closet kind of handled them.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes.
Ryne: Yeah, but that was how many years ago?
Reese: yeah but But what what has Bo really done to like make you think that
Cokeley Brothers: matured gotten bigger.
Ryne: It's not what it's, it's, it's none no, no, no, let me, Hey, stop, stop.
Reese: I guess I mean, oh, smashed Ash. No, like that's right before that.
Ryne: It's not what has Bo done. It's what Kalozic hasn't been doing.
Reese: Sure, he has been wrestling. It's a good point.
Cokeley Brothers: He's been working in that private equity.
Ryne: Making, making robots engineering.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe I don't know what his job is, but
Reese: Megan bots. He's probably flooding flooding. Social media with bots.
Cokeley Brothers: I said private equity. Why are you guys talking about bots?
Reese: He's probably he's he's
Ryne: Isn't he an engineer?
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. Maybe he could be whatever he is. He's smart.
Reese: he's moving the political needle with bots.
Cokeley Brothers: um Okay. It's crazy that Darren Caldwell has wins over Doug Schwab and Josh Turella.
Reese: He was good, like in in ancient times.
Ryne: He was until he got hurt in his roller skating.
Cokeley Brothers: He was good. 16 years ago.
Cokeley Brothers: Ryan, we can't really hear you.
Ryne: I said he was good up until his roller skating accident.
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Reese: Roller's game, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: um And then the third the third match that has been half announced, not officially, but it's it's a rumor from a semi-reliable source, I'm pretty sure, um is
Reese: That is hilarious.
Cokeley Brothers: Austin Gomez versus Austin O'Connor.
Ryne: Oh yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Good for Chicago.
Reese: Who? Austin Gomez versus O'Connor?
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Reese: Dude, that's awesome.
Cokeley Brothers: yep
Reese: they when Have they wrestled before?
Cokeley Brothers: It's...
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think so.
Reese: i bet they wrestled in high school.
Cokeley Brothers: No, Gomez was smaller.
Reese: I bet they did.
Ryne: Yeah, I don't think they've ever wrestled before.
Reese: Same age.
Ryne: Maybe. You might be right, Reese.
Cokeley Brothers: I'll ask. I'll ask around. It
Reese: Well, so I tried to get on track wrestling today and send me right to flow.
Cokeley Brothers: and redirected you? Yep. Welcome to hell.
Reese: So can I can I look up past past brackets?
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Ryne: You can.
Reese: I can.
Ryne: You can.
Reese: OK.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. Yeah.
Reese: I didn't even try because my phone wouldn't even load the page.
Cokeley Brothers: But but Reese Reese, I want you to know. Yeah, your phone definitely won't. Your phone will say your phone will try your phone.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Your phone will say I'm going to self-destruct in 30 seconds unless you get me out of here.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: to kill myself.
Reese: and Please, no more.
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Cokeley Brothers: The future is here and it is not good. Bracketing is.
Ryne: for those of you For those of you that don't know, Reese is still running an iPhone 4.
Cokeley Brothers: there's
Reese: Shut up, bro.
Cokeley Brothers: It's of six, I think.
Reese: It's a 6S. It's a 6S, and it's awesome, and you are jealous of my 6S.
Cokeley Brothers: i I admire it, but it's tough.
Reese: ah
Ryne: I thought it was an, I honestly, for real, thought it was an eight.
Reese: It's big.
Ryne: I was i was just saying, i he was like divided by two just to be funny. And then you were like, it's a six ass. Six ass
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Freakin eight eights are for losers. got a six.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Posers.
Cokeley Brothers: um And the a thing that is confusing to me
Ryne: a 17. six s to a seventeen It's going to be awesome.
Cokeley Brothers: A thing that is confusing to me, and you know what? This, I think, is not a reliable thing to look at. Real American Freestyle, on their website, they they put up the cards for the ah for the upcoming event.
Cokeley Brothers: So it ah it lists Chad Mendes versus Michael Chandler as the championship match for middleweight, which is 175, which is the weight that Evan Wick currently has the belt at.
Ryne: Yeah, there's still they're still working out some kink, Sammy.
Cokeley Brothers: So I'm confused.
Ryne: All right.
Cokeley Brothers: they're They're working out having a... a I'm to be rude. ah dumb a site developer. Site maintainer.
Reese: We talking about RF. Why
Cokeley Brothers: Yes.
Cokeley Brothers: Their social media game and and just in general news cycle is... it could it could use some polish.
Reese: don't you hit him up? Let him know.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Cokeley Brothers: I might.
Reese: Tell him how it is. You say, look at my account.
Cokeley Brothers: I might.
Reese: Look, look at the things I'm doing.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, look at how great my stuff looks.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Look at how great of but of a front-end developer I am.
Reese: Now, look at yours.
Cokeley Brothers: But that's Real American Freestyle.
Reese: I'm so lost.
Cokeley Brothers: I quickly want to just mention, I'll do a later video on my own that goes more in-depth for the upcoming week of... college wrestling, but I just wanna cover real quick um what we have coming up because wrestling starts in four days. The the first event is on October 31st.
Cokeley Brothers: it's I'm pretty sure it's Cal Poly versus Purdue. pretty sure that's the first duel that we have of the year, if I am not mistaken. ah If I'm scrolling through here, that's what I see.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. That is what I see. But other things to mention, there's also the... I mean, there's going to be a pretty healthy selection of duels for you to look at.
Cokeley Brothers: But the Navy Classic is going to be happening. um That's obviously hosted by Navy. It's going to have a handful of teams there that are pretty solid. Like ah Pittsburgh's going to be there.
Cokeley Brothers: I believe no Nebraska attends it. Yeah. yeah There's going to be a good number of teams that that that are pretty solid. The Southeast Open is also going to be happening and the Clarion Open.
Cokeley Brothers: solid Solid group of teams go to that. Some other Division one teams are going having non-dualal non-Division I duels like Missouri and Chattanooga. um yeah This is going to be a a good week.
Cokeley Brothers: However, the real action happens the following week, which...
Ryne: In Rochester, Minnesota.
Ryne: That's where I'll be. Sorry.
Cokeley Brothers: Why? Is that junior college?
Ryne: That's where my where my team will be wrestling.
Reese: Don't piss Sammy off like that.
Ryne: That's where my team will be wrestling.
Cokeley Brothers: Fucking cut me off for that.
Ryne: Yeah, I did.
Cokeley Brothers: you stop You stop me for that?
Ryne: Yeah, I did.
Reese: Miss him with that shit.
Cokeley Brothers: While on your phone.
Reese: All on your phone. Not even paying attention.
Cokeley Brothers: No, then the, the, the real action starts next week.
Ryne: I am paying attention.
Cokeley Brothers: One of the, one of the biggest duels prior to really the national duels invitational is going to be Stanford versus Oklahoma state. There's I think five or maybe even six matches in that duel that are going to be pretty awesome and pretty telling for the season.
Cokeley Brothers: So I'm looking forward to that. Um, Princeton Open is also happening this week. And I think that might be it in terms of tournaments, which that's a good number of tournaments.
Cokeley Brothers: Navy Classic, Southeast Open, Princeton Open.
Ryne: Yellow Jacket open.
Cokeley Brothers: The Yellow Jacket Open.
Ryne: Yeah, in Rochester, Minnesota.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that's that's next weekend, isn't it? Oh, that's this weekend.
Ryne: That's this weekend.
Reese: So when is how many weeks away are we from national duels?
Cokeley Brothers: Three. It's 15th.
Ryne: November 15th.
Cokeley Brothers: fifteenth
Reese: So are we... do Do you want to go, though?
Cokeley Brothers: I do, of course.
Reese: I want to go.
Ryne: I want to go.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm sick of traveling, but I'll do it.
Reese: Ryan, you want to go?
Ryne: I do, but I can't.
Cokeley Brothers: Ryan will be at the Yellow Jacket Open.
Ryne: No, no.
Reese: Oh, shit.
Ryne: i'll beit That weekend, I'll be at Grandview.
Cokeley Brothers: I'll have dumped his body off a dumpster for interrupting me.
Ryne: The Grandview Open.
Reese: Being a dumpster.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, okay.
Reese: Prom night dumpster, Ryan.
Cokeley Brothers: Prom night dumpster, baby.
Reese: Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Cokeley Brothers: And then, yeah there's just
Reese: And I'm taking a stroll.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm going to share this spreadsheet with you guys.
Reese: He's taking a
Ryne: So stupid.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm going to share this spreadsheet with you guys. um Fantasy College Wrestling. I think they always do it, but this year they made a ah a master schedule and it's super awesome and super useful for looking at it what happens.
Reese: one WrestleStat?
Cokeley Brothers: ah It's just a Google sheet.
Ryne: When are we going to do a league?
Reese: Oh.
Reese: Yeah.
Ryne: Should start our own league and we should make it a dynasty league.
Reese: Sammy.
Reese: What does that mean? Like, like, that it just carries on?
Cokeley Brothers: Where the teams carry over.
Reese: Or,
Ryne: Yep.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Would it just be the three of us? We need more people.
Ryne: No, obviously we would invite more people, but
Cokeley Brothers: Like who?
Reese: David Taylor, Willie sailor, just the boys, you know, just the homies, the day ones.
Ryne: whoever...
Cokeley Brothers: The four Hayes boys?
Cokeley Brothers: Christian Piles.
Cokeley Brothers: I want. to
Cokeley Brothers: I want Chad Richardson in my league.
Reese: Chad Richardson.
Cokeley Brothers: Chad, $2 million. dollars i win this week.
Reese: I want Kurt signetti in my, in on my.
Cokeley Brothers: Chad, give Indy... Endow Indiana if I beat you this season.
Reese: Endow them.
Ryne: Yeah, yeah, endow them.
Cokeley Brothers: Chad...
Cokeley Brothers: Chad, won't you endow me?
Ryne: Endow him real good.
Cokeley Brothers: Chad, I need to be endowed.
Reese: Just lay it on him.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. Anything else?
Ryne: um Matthew Kolodzik is going to become a doctor.
Reese: He's a doctor.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, yeah, he needs to keep he needs to keep his brain healthy then.
Reese: we were We were way out.
Ryne: Well, we weren't way off. He did do like some engineering. I'm looking at his LinkedIn right now. So
Cokeley Brothers: Some some bodily engineering.
Reese: You think he's, you think he's specializing in nanobots nanobot technology?
Ryne: may add I don't know. He was a medical assistantent ah medical assistant in December 22 to December 23 the Princeton Brain, Spine and Sports Medicine.
Reese: Oh yeah. Nanobots dude. He's working on nanobots.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, regardless, Ryan, thanks for.
Ryne: Most recent experience CST post baccalaureate student basic core health sciences at temple university for one year and one month.
Cokeley Brothers: thank Thanks for looking all that up. I'll be on your freaking phone the whole time.
Ryne: i I actually was looking at football score. i was getting updated on that on my phone. I was looking at Matthew Kladzik stuff on the computer. So suck it.
Reese: What's the score?
Ryne: 21 seven. Jeff's.
Cokeley Brothers: to seven.
Cokeley Brothers: Chiffs.
Reese: Chaffs.
Ryne: ches
Cokeley Brothers: All right. If you guys got nothing, I got nothing. All I have is.
Ryne: Chefs are burnt.
Reese: I have stuff.
Ryne: Go for it.
Reese: Wait for it.
Reese: You want to talk some. Ah, nevermind.
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Reese: I was going to talk about, i was going to talk about.
Cokeley Brothers: Have a good day, listeners.
Reese: Oh yeah. Forget it.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. Goodbye.
