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Bassett and Miller commit + All-Star Classic matchups and more - Session 92
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The boys dive right into the many different ongoing storylines of the current wrestling landscape. Looking into the commitments from Bo Bassett and Melvin Miller, the people's reaction to it, and what it means for wrestling. The All-Star Classic lineup was announced, Who's Number One is this weekend, U23 entries announced, and more!
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Introduction to Current Wrestling Events
00:00:00
Cokeley Brothers
and we go Welcome back to the barn session, everybody. Got a full slate of wrestling to talk about today. Lots of news on all different levels.
00:00:11
Cokeley Brothers
All-star classic lineup. Who's number one lineup that's going down this weekend. U23s is happening. Big recruitment news. Real American Freestyle. Lots of stuff is happening. It's very busy for what we would normally expect out of October.
00:00:29
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not going get to all it today.
00:00:32
Ryne
October can get busy.
00:00:32
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:00:34
Ryne
Yeah.
00:00:34
Cokeley Brothers
It can. i don't know. just it was like It felt of like a very slow and quiet time. but i mean, obviously, because...
00:00:41
Ryne
September. Yeah, that's that's September.
00:00:42
Cokeley Brothers
Right? Right?
00:00:43
Ryne
September is your, you know, wake me up when September ends.
00:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
and But then then it all we just got punched with All-Star Classic. Who's number one suddenly is happening. It feels like we didn't really know a whole lot about it, and then all a sudden it's this weekend.
00:00:56
Cokeley Brothers
Bo Bassett Mel Miller dropped their commitments kind of out of nowhere. um But yeah, what what do you want to start with? Where do you want to go?
00:01:05
Reese
Bassett.
00:01:06
Ryne
Um, you want to start there? You want to start with the good stuff or
Commitments to Virginia Tech
00:01:09
Ryne
let's talk about, uh, I kind of want to, yeah, we can do whatever, I guess.
00:01:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:01:13
Cokeley Brothers
Let's crush the news. Bo Bassett and Melvin Miller are going to Virginia Tech. That is what, number two and four, pound for pound, in high school right now?
00:01:27
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:01:28
Cokeley Brothers
I think per
00:01:29
Reese
Which one's which?
00:01:30
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:01:32
Ryne
Bassett's two, Melvin's four.
00:01:34
Cokeley Brothers
pretty sure. I think Dreshawn's three and Jack's forest is one.
00:01:37
Ryne
yes
00:01:38
Reese
Mm-hmm.
00:01:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:01:39
Ryne
according According to Willie.
00:01:42
Cokeley Brothers
According to Willie, who is, I mean, in my mind, the leading source for high school stuff, he knows them kids. Knows them better than I do.
00:01:53
Ryne
but Now, if you if you ask Flo, then it's two and three. They have Melvin above Dreshawn, which is insane.
00:02:00
Cokeley Brothers
Dreshawn. It's also fair.
00:02:02
Ryne
No, insane.
00:02:04
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
00:02:04
Ryne
and Insane.
00:02:04
Reese
Dude, i'm not going to lie.
00:02:06
Reese
I think of, I think Melvin, I might think Melvin's better than Bassett.
00:02:12
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe a better prospect.
00:02:13
Ryne
Oh, he definitely has, yes, a higher ceiling for sure.
00:02:16
Reese
Yeah.
00:02:17
Ryne
But when you look at pedigrees right now, Bassett definitely is the number two guy. Sorry.
00:02:24
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, Wolverine.
00:02:27
Ryne
I'm sorry.
00:02:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:02:29
Ryne
um page you
00:02:29
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, like accomplishments and all that. I mean, I w w but if you consider it that way, I mean, I feel like Drayshon and Melvin have kind of run the same.
00:02:40
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, wait, no, no, Melvin Miller has a world title.
00:02:45
Ryne
Yeah, but I think Dreshawn probably would have a world title had he not been hurt. A. And B, he's got some pretty good wins, dude, domestically.
00:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:02:58
Cokeley Brothers
He does. He does.
00:03:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I don't know. I feel like it's a, it's a debatable topic. Um, but yeah.
00:03:08
Ryne
why aren't we getting Why aren't we getting Melvin Miller, Jaden James at who's number one?
00:03:14
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I guess Jane James.
00:03:14
Ryne
Don't get me wrong. I am glad that Max DeBolt is wrestling, since especially since it's in Iowa this year. But I really wanted to see Melvin and Jaden.
00:03:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:03:28
Cokeley Brothers
Me too. That would have been like, that would have been the match.
00:03:33
Reese
I'm a little underwhelmed with the card, but that might just be my lack of knowledge.
00:03:33
Cokeley Brothers
Well, that and Rainey. look
00:03:40
Cokeley Brothers
There's some solid matchups in there. ah the The big one now is Bassett-Rainey.
00:03:44
Reese
No.
00:03:45
Cokeley Brothers
It pretty much always was, but it's kind of...
00:03:47
Ryne
Yeah, but I mean, I feel like there's going to be a size discrepancy there. Is Jordan that big? Is he going to be big enough to wrestle with Bo?
00:03:56
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Maybe.
00:03:56
Ryne
I almost feel like it's like Bo's a pay to match one. That big of a discrepancy, but I don't know. Maybe not.
00:04:06
Cokeley Brothers
We'll see. I don't know. I mean, Jaden's got some length. Jordan.
00:04:10
Ryne
Jordan and Jaden, they both have length.
00:04:11
Cokeley Brothers
Jordan. Yeah, but Jaden just wrestled 55 kilos, right?
00:04:15
Ryne
Jordan Rainey has pinned both Jax Forrest and Bo Bassett.
00:04:22
Cokeley Brothers
So, there's that. But, back to the the initial news.
00:04:27
Ryne
In the same news.
00:04:28
Cokeley Brothers
Bo Bassett and Melvin Miller are are committed to wrestle for Virginia Tech.
00:04:28
Ryne
In the same news.
00:04:33
Cokeley Brothers
They're going to be in the ACC... You kind of assume that in a couple of years, we'll be hearing similar news about Keegan Bassett. kind of seems like it's one big happy family.
00:04:47
Cokeley Brothers
But ah what do you think about this?
Impact of Commitments on Virginia Tech
00:04:52
Reese
It's great. I love it.
00:04:54
Ryne
Yeah, I mean, it's good for parity, right?
00:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
I think... Yeah, you saw a lot of people saying this is good for wrestling on Twitter when the news got dropped, and I think it is. ah I think that...
00:05:10
Ryne
But I mean, and and and I do think it's good for Virginia Tech, but I don't know if...
00:05:19
Ryne
I don't know. I don't know if they're going to help Virginia Tech to yeah beat Penn State or Oklahoma State or anything like that.
00:05:27
Reese
At the very least, you know, it'll get them, they'll make them a trophy contending team. Am I coming in okay?
00:05:33
Ryne
Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, you are.
00:05:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:37
Reese
Okay.
00:05:38
Cokeley Brothers
Um, I, and I agree with that. I think this, this can give them some real momentum in the recruitment space of things. I think that, especially if you get, i mean, I don't know what Bishop McCourt is going to look like moving forward, but if you can kind of like, like if you get Keegan Bassett, obviously, and like Eli Herring and some of the other names that really know, um,
00:06:05
Cokeley Brothers
kind of have that set up and tack on some additional recruitment along the way ah you you can definitely become a ah pretty substantial team i probably with sam doing that but maybe not i don't know we'll see maybe maybe sam transfers because i
00:06:16
Ryne
Eli will be a Nittany Lion.
00:06:24
Ryne
Yeah, maybe not. Maybe not.
00:06:28
Ryne
ah Here's the thing. Here's the other thing, too. I do think it will probably help draw in some recruits. I don't know if it's going to help them as much as you think, though.
Rumors of Nepotism at Virginia Tech
00:06:38
Cokeley Brothers
It really, it to me, it really depends. It depends on like, well, the rumor is that there will be some subsequent news that Bill Bassett is involved with the program in some capacity at the father.
00:06:54
Cokeley Brothers
If that happens, that kind of sours everything to me. I don't know if that's the case for everybody else, but if that does happen, then
00:07:03
Ryne
Yeah, it's net like nepotism, right? A little bit, kind of, in a way.
00:07:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. It's reverse, it's reverse nepotism in a way.
00:07:08
Ryne
Reverse nepotism.
00:07:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. And, and so, uh, and it just like, it just feels, feels weird. Uh, cause it doesn't feel like you, like you've made a choice based on merit.
00:07:19
Cokeley Brothers
You did, you did a deal. Uh, I don't know if that's going to happen. That could be total conjecture.
00:07:27
Cokeley Brothers
I kind of, we, there were plenty of sources that were talking about the fact that Bill Bassett was interested on being, being involved in the in the college space, some in some capacity.
00:07:36
Reese
Maybe he'll be like Dayton's dad.
00:07:37
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:07:40
Cokeley Brothers
yeah, and in that, that doesn't feel like that big of a deal, right?
00:07:44
Reese
Nope.
00:07:44
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:07:45
Ryne
Well, no, seeing as how, you know, yeah, Oklahoma State did it with Dayton. Iowa State did it with the cars.
00:07:53
Cokeley Brothers
Missouri did it with Ironman, right?
00:07:57
Ryne
I guess. I don't know.
00:07:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:00
Ryne
How much was...
00:08:00
Cokeley Brothers
But, I mean,
00:08:02
Ryne
How much was Mr. Ironman involved?
00:08:06
Cokeley Brothers
And I mean, it was kind of probably based on the fact that ah this is another thing to think about though, right?
00:08:11
Ryne
And then Jaden left, so...
00:08:12
Cokeley Brothers
Bill Bassett's not just some guy. he is he is the high school coach for the second most successful or second best high school program right now.
00:08:18
Reese
Right.
00:08:20
Cokeley Brothers
So like, it's not as if he's just like a dad in a corner all of a sudden.
00:08:21
Reese
You could call him up.
00:08:27
Cokeley Brothers
He, he to some degree knows what he's doing, but if you get, if you work your way into a coaching position at the, at the division one level through, ah your son, your son's recruitment, you know, it looks a certain way, but I don't, mean, we don't even know if that's going to happen. I am trying to look at it positively and I expect this to help Virginia tech in some capacity. Um, there have already been like well-established good relations or good associations between Virginia techs,
00:08:58
Cokeley Brothers
marketing, um like how strong they are in the in the marketing space and how that works really well for Bo Bassett.
The Strength of the ACC
00:09:03
Cokeley Brothers
um People have criticized like, oh, it's not the best conference, the ACC. It's still a tough conference.
00:09:11
Cokeley Brothers
um Probably the third toughest, right?
00:09:15
Ryne
Yeah.
00:09:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I'm a big 10, big 12 ACC and it's dense.
00:09:18
Ryne
Yes. Yes.
00:09:21
Cokeley Brothers
um Really, your only like weak, weak link is is Duke. So... ah it's still a tough conference. No, it's like, i and Ryan and I were talking about this before we started recording.
00:09:34
Cokeley Brothers
You're not going to have that same effect of like Bo Bassett wearing the Iowa Hawkeye singlet walking out into Carver Hawkeye arena. Like you're not going to have that same effect. But, you you know, what can be done from a culture perspective at Virginia Tech?
00:09:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I think it's exciting. I'm sure this will start to um encourage them to
00:09:56
Ryne
um I'm so glad you said culture. Continue with what you said.
00:10:00
Cokeley Brothers
um I'm sure this will, this will incentivize them to continue developing their RTC even more. um And if, I mean, if Genentech makes the right moves um and and puts their money in, in, in the right spots, this pays off for them in a, in a big way, I think.
00:10:17
Ryne
I think it's hilarious. People are like, oh, why are they picking Virginia Tech? And you see all these Virginia Tech people, Caleb Henson, i all these people are like, because of the culture, because of the culture. It's like, okay.
00:10:34
Ryne
I mean, everyone claims they have a great culture. You know what I mean?
00:10:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Um, the, the people you want to hear it from are outside of the team.
00:10:41
Ryne
It's...
00:10:46
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Um, so like, yeah, Caleb Henson, Caleb Henson, who's a, uh, national champ, two-time finalist for Virginia tech.
00:10:56
Cokeley Brothers
Of course, he's going to try and promote the culture.
00:10:59
Ryne
well And I have and i have no like no doubt that their culture is great. you know
00:11:04
Ryne
Same with NC State. Same with a just about any Division I program. Probably has really good culture. I mean, name a program that probably does has a toxic culture. I can't think of one off the top of my head.
00:11:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:11:21
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, I'm not accuse any of them.
00:11:22
Reese
old ones, maybe old regimes,
00:11:25
Ryne
What do you mean, old...
00:11:25
Cokeley Brothers
Old programs.
00:11:29
Reese
uh, like, you know, past, no, no, no, no.
00:11:31
Cokeley Brothers
Like dropped programs.
00:11:34
Reese
no Program was with prior previous coaches, maybe coaching staffs.
00:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
or like Buffalo made a, made a hiring change. And so their culture is probably improved.
00:11:42
Reese
Yeah.
00:11:42
Ryne
Oh, okay. Yeah, sure.
00:11:44
Cokeley Brothers
Gotcha.
00:11:45
Ryne
But i'm I'm saying that doesn't necessarily mean their culture is toxic. That's my point. You know what i'm you know what I mean?
00:11:52
Reese
I mean, depends on what your what your definition of toxic is.
00:11:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Depends. Yeah.
00:11:57
Reese
Ill?
00:11:57
Cokeley Brothers
I, I think, um, i mean, I had a very limited experience, uh,
00:12:03
Ryne
Ah, fuck. Turning this game off. God damn it Tied up. Three to three. Motherfucker.
00:12:08
Cokeley Brothers
He's talking about the Cubs for the people at home.
00:12:10
Reese
Tied up? Jeez.
00:12:12
Cokeley Brothers
um Like my when I first got to Indiana, it was 2019 and the change the change in leadership was was still ongoing, right? Because you you hire a head coach, but that does not immediately change in most circumstances. does that That doesn't immediately change how your athletes behave and the overall, the overall culture of a program, right? It takes in some cases, seasons to make that development, especially when you have ah an incredibly disruptive force like COVID.
00:12:45
Cokeley Brothers
But, um, ah so I did get to like, at least peek into what a, not a, not something I would describe as a good culture, what that looks like.
00:12:57
Cokeley Brothers
Um, um, And it's bad for development. It's bad for, for overall team mood. Uh, and just like practices don't go well, competitions don't go well.
00:13:07
Cokeley Brothers
Athlete to coach interactions are bad. Uh, people who are missing lifts, missing meals, missing time with their athletic trainers, getting bad grades, things, you know, things topple down when that kind of stuff happens.
00:13:20
Cokeley Brothers
But I think, I don't know. I'm optimistic.
Growth Prospects for Virginia Tech Wrestling
00:13:27
Ryne
Sorry.
00:13:27
Cokeley Brothers
Um, with the choice that they made, it wasn't a, like a, like a top, a blue chip program. Virginia tech is good. Um, but it wasn't like a staple, the, uh, a household name. So I'm excited to see what that looks like moving forward.
00:13:42
Ryne
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely like, it's interesting. It definitely raises the eyebrow.
00:13:49
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Cause I mean, i don't know about you. i was, i was pretty, was pretty convinced that it was going to be in Nebraska. Uh, cause just felt like, felt like all roads were leading Nebraska for them, but guess Virginia tech made a, yeah, made an offer.
00:14:01
Ryne
Well, yeah. yeah
00:14:05
Cokeley Brothers
They can't. And like, that's the other argument you can have for, for like against like the, for the culture claim is that they got like paid out.
00:14:07
Reese
It's closer.
00:14:15
Cokeley Brothers
we're We're in the time where like whatever offer they get has to go through the, not the clearing house, but something similar.
00:14:18
Reese
It doesn't matter anymore.
00:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:14:26
Ryne
Well, does that depend on, does that, and does that depend on if they're revenue sharing or not?
00:14:26
Reese
is that efficient?
00:14:36
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not smart enough. I'm not ah knowledgeable enough on the topic.
00:14:38
Ryne
I don't know. Yeah, me neither. um That's why, that's why I'm asking. That's why I'm asking.
00:14:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I don't know. Maybe.
00:14:44
Ryne
You know, you know what I know?
00:14:46
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:14:47
Ryne
I know bo Bass is not getting $5 million. dollars
00:14:49
Cokeley Brothers
Nah, that's not gonna, don't think, dude, if Virginia Tech found a way, that would be crazy. And for them to, to put it on that would be insane.
00:14:59
Ryne
Would be
00:15:00
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Yeah, because you also have to offer Melvin something. So... Okay, yeah.
00:15:10
Ryne
I just, I mean, ah really hope, I don't know, man.
00:15:10
Cokeley Brothers
That's the...
00:15:15
Ryne
I just think about it all the time. I'm like, dude, you gave up $5 million. That's so much money. That's so much money.
00:15:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:15:22
Reese
Allegedly. Allegedly.
00:15:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean...
00:15:25
Ryne
What do you mean allegedly? Allegedly.
00:15:27
Reese
Allegedly.
00:15:27
Cokeley Brothers
it is what It is the number that everybody threw around there, but did we ever hear from like, did we hear from Bo Bassett that it was $5 million? dollars
00:15:34
Ryne
No, it was $5 million, dollars guys.
00:15:36
Reese
Hey, it wasn't about the money.
00:15:37
Cokeley Brothers
Did you see the money, Ryan?
00:15:38
Ryne
He was about to, it was $5 million dollars over four years.
00:15:43
Cokeley Brothers
It's not about the money.
00:15:43
Ryne
And he was about to get his first.
00:15:44
Reese
wasn't about the money. It was about the plane tickets.
00:15:47
Cokeley Brothers
Sending a message.
00:15:52
Ryne
was about influence.
00:15:55
Cokeley Brothers
I just want my phone call.
00:15:59
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, also in recruiting news, Landon Seiden, number one of the best guys and in the country. One of the top recruits in 2020 for the 2027 graduating class is committed to Penn state.
00:16:10
Cokeley Brothers
So they get another blue chipper.
00:16:11
Reese
oh I was just about to be like, oh yeah, he's good.
00:16:13
Ryne
That's exactly what I said. for
00:16:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:18
Reese
I watched him wrestle one of the Bachmans and I was like, and he was impressive. But hearing that news is just, he's a small dude.
00:16:28
Reese
Like where they don't need, I mean, whatever. He'll probably be at 25.
00:16:31
Ryne
That's what I said. That's exactly what I said.
00:16:34
Ryne
He's small.
00:16:34
Reese
yeah
00:16:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Ryan's like, how's it going to work? Luke Lilladol's going to bump up, and then and then Nate Desmond's going to be there, and Nate Desmond's pretty good. i don't know. I have no idea what it's going to look like. Here's the deal. And this is, Reese, you you've flat out said it Kale Sanderson over over recruits or recruits over his guys always.
00:16:53
Cokeley Brothers
So it doesn't make sense to me for people for me to hear from people that Penn State wasn't interested in Bo Bassett. That doesn't make sense to me. He is the biggest recruit, not necessarily the number one best guy you can recruit, but the biggest recruit in the last 10 years or whatever.
00:17:15
Ryne
Yeah, we all know it had nothing to do with Bo. It had everything to do with something else.
00:17:21
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And so then you can kind of like, you can kind of put some pieces together and connect
Penn State's Recruitment Strategy
00:17:27
Cokeley Brothers
some dots. Like the fact that Penn state wasn't an option.
00:17:34
Cokeley Brothers
suggests that coaching staff, right.
00:17:35
Ryne
Someone else wants to be relevant to...
00:17:38
Cokeley Brothers
The coaching staff is airtight. So, you know, the, the red, the red lines are, are coming together and we're figuring out who Pepe Sylvia is.
00:17:49
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:17:54
Ryne
That was a good one.
00:17:55
Cokeley Brothers
Thanks. ah Okay. That's that. Where do you want to go to next? want to all-star? you want to do number one? Real American freestyle, all-star classic.
00:18:04
Ryne
Let's do All-Star.
00:18:07
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Let me, let me pull that up also.
00:18:09
Reese
I made my picks. Should we just do our picks now?
00:18:13
Ryne
i don't even I don't even want to do RAF card number two, to be honest with you.
00:18:13
Cokeley Brothers
Sure.
00:18:18
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:18:18
Reese
It feels like our civic duty to talk about it.
00:18:19
Cokeley Brothers
It's it,
00:18:23
Cokeley Brothers
it it actually isn't final.
00:18:24
Reese
though I don't really want to talk about it either.
00:18:26
Cokeley Brothers
It isn't final to, to kind of give you guys a little bit of breath.
00:18:31
Ryne
The RAF card? I heard it was.
00:18:33
Cokeley Brothers
A match is falling out.
00:18:34
Reese
thought I thought it was.
00:18:35
Cokeley Brothers
And then it's... Willie was talking about it on with Bash today. That a match, I think, is getting dropped. ah But it's being replaced. And there's word of Nico Megalutis.
00:18:47
Ryne
Is it Henschel and Muggsy? Is that match getting dropped?
00:18:50
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea. I don't know which match.
00:18:53
Ryne
I hope it's that match.
00:18:53
Cokeley Brothers
The fact that Nico is being thrown around as a name makes me think that Tomasello...
00:19:00
Ryne
or RBY.
00:19:03
Cokeley Brothers
Or RBY. Yeah, just that match is getting adjusted. um Okay. All-Star Classic.
Previewing the All-Star Classic
00:19:14
Cokeley Brothers
um Yep. 125, Eddie Ventresca versus Sheldon Seymour. Didn't we already see this? Isn't this just a ah ah rematch of last year's fifth place match?
00:19:26
Ryne
Yeah.
00:19:26
Reese
Yeah, that happens.
00:19:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:31
Ryne
where what do ive I would have liked to have seen um Little doll Vincent Obviously we're not getting that Because of little dolls at U23s But that's what I would have liked to have seen Or Iowa guys Or Iowa guys
00:19:43
Reese
Yeah, we got no Penn State guys.
00:19:43
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So, so yeah, let's put that out there, right? No Penn state guys, no Iowa guys, no, no Nebraska guys, so none of the top three teams.
00:19:50
Reese
Or I guess.
00:19:53
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:19:53
Reese
um
00:19:54
Cokeley Brothers
And then only two from the top four with Iowa state.
00:19:54
Reese
They're still pretty good matchups.
00:19:58
Cokeley Brothers
ah You still have some good matchups, but ah Penn state, give them a little bit of grace.
00:19:59
Reese
Is that
00:20:04
Cokeley Brothers
A bunch of their guys are going to you 23s like the week before or whatever it is. So you're not Luke Will at all.
00:20:15
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Mitchell Mezenbrink, Levi Haynes, Josh Barr, Rocco Welsh. I think that's a mirror solo. Maybe no, not mirror solo.
00:20:24
Reese
is that seven
00:20:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, they have seven guys on there, but yeah, like blazing Duke wouldn't be at the all-star classic anyway.
00:20:27
Ryne
There's seven.
00:20:34
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but yeah, so
00:20:35
Ryne
They should be. They should they should consider them.
00:20:39
Cokeley Brothers
and yeah, it's not, I mean, they, they do have, At 184, they have Zack Ryder wrestling.
00:20:42
Ryne
Give me on No. give me Give me Blaze versus Oh No.
00:20:47
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:20:51
Cokeley Brothers
For an all-star classic classic matchup to be a wrestle-off for Penn State.
00:20:51
Reese
I don't
00:20:53
Ryne
Yes. Yeah, why not? Why not?
00:20:56
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, they were talking about how last year there was a golden opportunity to have Penn State like Dapper Dan style, which is Penn State versus the the best from the rest of the country.
00:21:09
Cokeley Brothers
Because i they they've had 10 All-Americans. Yeah. they were It was at Penn State last year. um That would have been the way to do it. ah But yeah, no Penn State, no Iowa, no Nebraska.
00:21:23
Cokeley Brothers
um Eddie Ventresco, Sheldon Seymour.
00:21:25
Reese
you
00:21:25
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know. Probably Ventresco.
00:21:26
Ryne
Give me Eddie.
00:21:27
Reese
um I'll be right back.
00:21:30
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay. We're losing Reese.
00:21:31
Reese
Nope.
00:21:36
Ryne
He said no. Where's he going?
00:21:39
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. He's right there.
00:21:41
Ryne
Blowing his nose, maybe.
00:21:43
Cokeley Brothers
It could be.
00:21:47
Ryne
What are you doing, Reese?
00:21:47
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:21:52
Ryne
To the bathroom.
00:21:53
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, goodbye. 133, Lucas Bird, Dylan Schauber. These two wrestled each other last year. Big surprise. Two guys from the Big Ten wrestled each other last year.
00:22:01
Ryne
Yeah, I was to say.
00:22:03
Cokeley Brothers
ah I'm trying to remember.
00:22:08
Ryne
Again, give me Blaze versus Ohno.
00:22:12
Cokeley Brothers
I'm trying to remember. I feel like it wasn't it was that it was an interesting match. Now, I think it was interesting because it was at Rutgers. However, this year, the All-Star Classic is at Rutgers.
00:22:25
Cokeley Brothers
Also, Ryan, you hear that? Do you hear that noise?
00:22:30
Ryne
Are you talking about my washing machine?
00:22:32
Cokeley Brothers
No. My keyboard.
00:22:33
Ryne
No.
00:22:34
Cokeley Brothers
You don't hear it, do you?
00:22:34
Ryne
Yeah, I do.
00:22:35
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:22:35
Ryne
No, I don't.
00:22:40
Cokeley Brothers
Dylan Schauber. Where are you? Yeah, it was 6-5
Highlight: Mendez vs Echemendia
00:22:43
Cokeley Brothers
last year. So this this could be a good another good match. um Entertaining at least. Even though Bird National Champ Schauber, I believe was around a 12. If I recall correctly, maybe around 16. Yeah,
00:22:58
Cokeley Brothers
yeah good match. 141. is probably the match, the best match. It's going to be Jesse Mendez versus Anthony Enchimendia. which tells you Echemendia 141.
00:23:08
Ryne
Yeah. I don't, yeah.
00:23:10
Cokeley Brothers
one forty one Yeah, I just, I don't think everybody understood that.
00:23:12
Ryne
Well, yes, that was always right. And frost is going up to 49 or, or Panera frost or Panera at 49.
00:23:21
Cokeley Brothers
you You know what? this is This will be a good time to bring this up. Have you seen Zone on Twitter is trying cradle zone on twitter is ah trying to Not promote, but he is mentioning the idea that Gavin Sachs is like still around and is in talks with somebody within the NCAA to get another season.
00:23:41
Ryne
He's young. He's young.
00:23:45
Cokeley Brothers
i know. I just keep letting the kid know like this would break all um prior precedent for what eligibility is.
00:23:54
Ryne
it would. It would open up a can of worms.
00:23:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And and he he's not.
00:24:01
Ryne
But you know what if he's got a good enough If he's got a good enough lawyer, it could happen.
00:24:01
Cokeley Brothers
He'll get it.
00:24:01
Reese
What are we talking about?
00:24:01
Cokeley Brothers
He'll figure out.
00:24:08
Cokeley Brothers
Now there's no way. I hope not.
00:24:09
Ryne
No, it could. It could, especially since the NCAA is already considering doing that.
00:24:15
Cokeley Brothers
I know. but I don't want them to. Reese, Jesse Mendez, Anthony Echemendia.
00:24:19
Ryne
I do. I do want them to. You want Carter Starachi to be the only guy to ever win five forever and ever? No. Go ahead and give everyone else five years of eligibility.
00:24:29
Cokeley Brothers
Well.
00:24:32
Cokeley Brothers
When you put it that way.
00:24:35
Cokeley Brothers
That's a good point, Reese.
00:24:37
Reese
I'm going to carefully grab my water here. Not bump anything.
00:24:40
Cokeley Brothers
job.
00:24:43
Cokeley Brothers
Mendez Echemendia.
00:24:48
Ryne
Who do you got, Reese?
00:24:49
Reese
we doing picks?
00:24:51
Cokeley Brothers
Eh.
00:24:52
Reese
No.
00:24:52
Ryne
I guess we... Not really. Well, yes.
00:24:54
Reese
right. We don't have to picks. Save them.
00:24:56
Cokeley Brothers
I don't want to do them official yet. I want to be like ready to write these down whenever we do them officially.
00:24:58
Reese
Okay.
00:25:00
Cokeley Brothers
And there's probably going to be some guys drop out between now and then. So like, we'll wait.
00:25:03
Reese
That's true.
00:25:04
Ryne
Who would you... Who would you pick, though, right now, Reese?
00:25:07
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm.
00:25:07
Reese
Theoretically, i would pick I would want to pick Echemendia. But no, I would pick Mendez.
00:25:11
Ryne
Theoretically, why?
00:25:13
Cokeley Brothers
Mix it up.
00:25:13
Reese
because it Yeah, mix it up. yeah Exactly what he said.
00:25:15
Ryne
Okay. Okay.
00:25:16
Cokeley Brothers
Mix it up. It's like Bo Bassin going to Virginia Tech. It shakes things up a little bit.
00:25:21
Reese
Yeah. And regular season Mendez is different.
00:25:22
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan.
00:25:23
Reese
We all know this.
00:25:25
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, put the knife away.
00:25:26
Ryne
It's not a knife.
00:25:28
Cokeley Brothers
Put the multi-tool away.
00:25:30
Ryne
It's a Allen wrench with multiple sizes.
00:25:33
Cokeley Brothers
Allen wrench key. Um... Okay, 149, Lachlan McNeil, Casey Swiderski, the return of Casey Swiderski, wrestling for Oklahoma State.
00:25:43
Ryne
This is actually, ah this is also a very good match, in my opinion.
00:25:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it's interesting for sure.
00:25:47
Reese
Hopefully.
00:25:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:25:51
Ryne
Well, Lachlan's been training with Logan Stieber, so...
00:25:51
Cokeley Brothers
I want to see Casey. but
00:25:56
Ryne
And Jay Jaggers.
00:25:56
Reese
What do you say?
00:25:57
Reese
I mean, I think Lachlan is the is the favorite like.
00:26:01
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan. What school do you think Lachlan's at?
00:26:05
Ryne
Isn't he at Ohio State now?
00:26:07
Cokeley Brothers
Michigan.
00:26:09
Reese
Oh.
00:26:09
Ryne
Oh. I thought he went to Ohio State for some reason.
00:26:10
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:26:12
Ryne
Oh, Styles.
00:26:12
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:26:13
Ryne
Styles did.
00:26:15
Cokeley Brothers
Gross.
00:26:16
Ryne
Lachlan's been training with my boy Alex Derringer.
00:26:17
Cokeley Brothers
That's what you just did.
00:26:21
Cokeley Brothers
Good pivot.
00:26:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, I mean, they both...
00:26:26
Reese
I think Lachlan is the the favorite, aren't we? Don't we agree?
00:26:28
Ryne
But give me Casey Swiderski.
00:26:29
Reese
and Yeah.
00:26:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Hawkman's the favorite.
00:26:33
Reese
I'm worried about Casey. You know, he's, you know, he hasn't really wrestled for a while and he hasn't been like on in a really long time.
00:26:40
Ryne
What do mean? He just wrestled against China.
00:26:42
Cokeley Brothers
in China.
00:26:43
Reese
He did wrestle China.
00:26:45
Cokeley Brothers
Whatever.
00:26:46
Ryne
China.
00:26:48
Cokeley Brothers
157 Cardenas versus Ty Waters. Daniel Cardenas of Stanford.
00:26:53
Reese
Good match.
00:26:53
Ryne
Also a good match.
00:26:55
Reese
Hopefully Healthy Thai waters.
00:26:58
Cokeley Brothers
Healthy Ty and
00:27:02
Cokeley Brothers
daniel carddaus he's just He's just pretty fun to watch.
00:27:05
Reese
Yeah, he is fun.
00:27:05
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, that'll be a fun match. ah People now, a quick break.
00:27:07
Reese
Give me, give me a, I'll take the over.
00:27:09
Cokeley Brothers
People were complaining about, go ahead.
00:27:13
Reese
The over. I will take it.
00:27:16
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:27:17
Ryne
Oh, on points? Nice.
00:27:20
Cokeley Brothers
People are complaining about like, man, the all-star classic. where's Where's the number ones versus the number twos? And, you know, it's still a lot of really fun matchups against high-level guys.
00:27:20
Reese
You wouldn't take the over?
00:27:32
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:27:32
Ryne
Yeah, but we're just not getting those Kendrick Maple versus Logan Steber type matchups anymore.
00:27:38
Cokeley Brothers
Do you, was that at the start of the year?
00:27:38
Reese
Did we get that?
00:27:41
Ryne
What do you mean?
00:27:44
Cokeley Brothers
Because the All-Star Classic wasn't always at the start of the year.
00:27:47
Reese
Yeah, it is.
00:27:47
Ryne
he said what it was Yes, it was. What?
00:27:49
Cokeley Brothers
I thought it was in the middle of the season at one point.
00:27:50
Ryne
No, never.
00:27:52
Cokeley Brothers
No?
00:27:53
Reese
You don't remember watching it at like preseason nationals?
00:27:53
Cokeley Brothers
am I insane? Preseason Nationals. Yeah. I guess that was like 2011, wasn't it?
00:28:01
Ryne
No. What? No.
00:28:01
Reese
Yeah.
00:28:04
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:28:07
Ryne
Logan Stieber versus Kendrick Maple?
00:28:07
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:28:07
Reese
It's just. talking about the year.
00:28:08
Cokeley Brothers
No, no, no, no, no. no no no no no
00:28:09
Ryne
Oh.
00:28:10
Cokeley Brothers
I'm thinking of ah DT versus KD.
00:28:13
Reese
That was 2012.
00:28:14
Ryne
That was 2012.
00:28:15
Cokeley Brothers
2012. I was close. I was close. So cut me some slack. Mr. Mr. Sandman, Mr. Timekeeper. All right.
00:28:22
Ryne
Well, I thought you were talking about Stieber, Kendrick Maple. That was like, that was, it was a great match.
00:28:25
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, i don't remember seeing that.
00:28:26
Reese
When was that?
00:28:26
Cokeley Brothers
That was kind of, that was, I remember it.
00:28:29
Reese
um don't even remember that. Okay.
00:28:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Again, i was only, only it would have been two years off if I was guessing 2011.
00:28:33
Ryne
Because then Kendrick, because then Kendrick, because then Kendrick went up to 149 that season, 2014. twenty fourteen
00:28:42
Cokeley Brothers
Was that after he won a title?
00:28:42
Ryne
Kendrick was, yeah, he won it in 2013 at 41 and bumped up to 49 and Stieber bumped up to 41.
00:28:44
Reese
Yeah.
00:28:47
Ryne
and steamer bumped up to forty one
00:28:49
Reese
And he just had a good time.
00:28:49
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:28:50
Reese
You know, he was, he was just there for a good time.
00:28:53
Cokeley Brothers
yeah he said sooner as i got you a title i'll take it okay uh yeah because there's two number ones and no number twos but like whatever penn state's busy i guess iowa is i don't know not interested in neither is nebraska sorry uh 165 hunter garban max pergnola Two wild cards.
00:29:20
Reese
no
00:29:20
Ryne
Only the good die young.
00:29:22
Reese
but So where's Pinto at again? That's
00:29:25
Ryne
Rutgers.
00:29:25
Cokeley Brothers
Pinto is, yeah.
00:29:27
Reese
right.
00:29:27
Ryne
And also wrestling at U23s.
00:29:31
Cokeley Brothers
Is he?
00:29:32
Ryne
for For Puerto Rico, isn't he?
00:29:32
Reese
Really? Oh.
00:29:34
Ryne
I heard that. Is he not?
00:29:38
Reese
I believe it.
00:29:39
Cokeley Brothers
That'd be tough as hell for him to go wrestle at U23s and then go wrestle at the All-Star Classic and be like, look at that, Nittany Lions.
00:29:45
Ryne
Oh, he is wrestling at the All-Star? He is wrestling at the All-Star Classic?
00:29:48
Reese
Yeah.
00:29:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yeah.
00:29:50
Ryne
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:29:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. He was one of the first two guys announced because Rutgers was like, we've got our guys representing representing the Scarlet Knights at home for the All-Star Classic.
00:30:03
Cokeley Brothers
And it was Dylan Shauver and Lenny Pinto. And i was like, oh, okay.
00:30:05
Ryne
I follow Scott Goodale on Twitter, but I don't follow Rutgers Wrestling.
00:30:08
Cokeley Brothers
Boom!
00:30:11
Cokeley Brothers
I'm sure he retweeted it. I'm almost certain he did.
00:30:13
Ryne
maybe he might he He might have. I just didn't see it.
00:30:17
Cokeley Brothers
um Okay. Uh, 165, Hunter Garvin, Max Brignola. We'll get to see like, what is Max Brignola really made of?
00:30:25
Reese
One of.
00:30:27
Cokeley Brothers
Cause he had a solid red shirt season last year, but i don't know if you guys saw him at the U S open.
00:30:27
Reese
You
00:30:32
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I saw one match.
00:30:34
Reese
had to get a US Open, right?
00:30:36
Cokeley Brothers
He wrestled at the open and he wrestled Mitchell Mezenbrink. He got tooled up. Uh, but I mean, Mitchell,
00:30:43
Reese
You look good. You look good. Getting tooled up. It was like Pat glory.
00:30:48
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, hey, tough result, but hey, you look great out there.
00:30:51
Reese
Yeah.
00:30:52
Cokeley Brothers
I
00:30:53
Reese
It was like a good tech, you know? It's like where you're like, wow.
00:30:56
Cokeley Brothers
i feel like i feel like I gave him a good look on those shots, you know?
00:30:58
Reese
Yeah.
00:31:00
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, and like i mean I guess maybe we won't know if we really get a good look because it's Hunter Garvin who is the wild card of 165 and we'll see.
00:31:10
Reese
I think Hunter Garvin is a great litmus test for all wrestlers.
00:31:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, can you... what do How do you describe Hunter Garvin?
00:31:21
Ryne
Mark only.
00:31:21
Reese
He
00:31:24
Reese
I think ah i think ah like he tests your wrestling IQ. I'm
00:31:30
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Sure.
00:31:34
Reese
not saying his IQ is super high.
00:31:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:31:36
Ryne
Mark Man. Mr. March.
00:31:39
Reese
he he he I feel like he he looked good all season last year.
00:31:42
Cokeley Brothers
He looked good all season for at least the first two periods. He would jump up to to big leads against like Bearclaw and Hall and then he would fade.
00:31:45
Reese
Yeah.
00:31:51
Reese
Could not beat Hall.
00:31:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, couldn't do it.
00:31:54
Ryne
Well, to be fair, there wasn't very many people last year that could beat Hall.
00:32:00
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:32:02
Reese
What place did he take?
00:32:02
Cokeley Brothers
Small group.
00:32:03
Reese
Fourth?
00:32:04
Cokeley Brothers
Fourth? No, third?
00:32:05
Ryne
Yeah, fourth. Fourth.
00:32:08
Cokeley Brothers
You sure? I thought Minto took fourth. Or did Minto take fifth?
00:32:10
Ryne
One. Oh, you're right.
00:32:13
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, so Minto fourth, Hall third.
00:32:13
Ryne
No, you're right. Hall, fourth. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
00:32:16
Cokeley Brothers
Not bad. That's pretty good.
00:32:17
Reese
Not bad.
00:32:20
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, 174.
00:32:20
Ryne
That's what I'm saying. Not a lot of people could be beat beat the man.
00:32:26
Cokeley Brothers
Simon Ruiz versus Lenny Pinto.
00:32:31
Reese
you're alo You're all over this one, aren't you?
00:32:31
Cokeley Brothers
That's pretty good one. Well, they've they wrestled each other twice last year. six four for Ruiz at the CKLV and then like 2-1 for Ruiz at NCAAs in the blood round.
00:32:44
Cokeley Brothers
so But Pinto will be representing Rutgers. going to go out there probably guns blazing and all that. ah Yeah, we'll see what this looks like. I don't know. Simon Ruiz has looked pretty good this this offseason.
00:32:57
Cokeley Brothers
This be a good match.
00:33:00
Cokeley Brothers
184, Jackson Smith, Zack Ryder.
00:33:05
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:33:06
Ryne
A lot of intrigue.
00:33:08
Reese
Jackson Smith, I just, I just, how did he finish last year?
00:33:09
Ryne
Just because...
00:33:09
Cokeley Brothers
Where is
00:33:13
Ryne
Seventh?
00:33:14
Cokeley Brothers
Jackson Smith?
00:33:15
Reese
He took seventh.
00:33:17
Cokeley Brothers
Sixth.
00:33:18
Reese
Okay. I didn't even remember if he placed.
00:33:20
Cokeley Brothers
I think sixth.
00:33:22
Ryne
No, he did.
00:33:22
Cokeley Brothers
think it was it was Starachi, Keckisen, McAnally, Plott, Foca, Smith, Allred, Washington.
00:33:23
Ryne
I knew he plays...
00:33:28
Ryne
McAnally.
00:33:33
Ryne
Ah, yes.
00:33:33
Reese
Dang.
00:33:34
Cokeley Brothers
I still got it.
00:33:35
Ryne
Good job.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
I still got it. I paid very close attention to that bracket, all right?
00:33:40
Ryne
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:42
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, I mean where is Zack Ryder?
00:33:44
Reese
why?
00:33:47
Cokeley Brothers
Where is he in the landscape of 184? If he beats Jackson Smith... then you're probably going to say, okay, now he now he really does belong in the conversation of AJ Ferrari, Rocco Welsh, Max McInerney.
00:34:01
Cokeley Brothers
Can he wrestle with these guys? Jackson Smith is the new Dustin Plott of 184.
00:34:08
Reese
I think Ryder, you know, i'm just gonna go ahead say, I think Ryder is the favorite in my mind.
00:34:15
Ryne
Well, yeah. He's the favor in my mind, too, but also... Oh, yeah. He's the favor in my mind. He's been trained with Zahid Valencia. He's the favor in my mind.
00:34:26
Cokeley Brothers
He'd been training with Zahid. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:30
Ryne
Untouched at world, Zahid Valencia.
00:34:34
Reese
Untouched.
00:34:36
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not sold yet.
00:34:36
Reese
Can't touch me.
00:34:36
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not sold yet.
00:34:39
Reese
He also beat, I don't think he, has he ever lost to Gabe Arnold? At least recently.
00:34:44
Ryne
No.
00:34:44
Cokeley Brothers
Who? Ryder?
00:34:46
Reese
Ryder.
00:34:46
Cokeley Brothers
Ryder?
00:34:48
Ryne
Ryder beat him two matches to zero and also beat him at the open.
00:34:54
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, you know what? Sidebar. Gabe Arnold. You guys hear what Piles said about him?
00:35:01
Ryne
I don't, yeah, and I don't care to talk about this.
00:35:06
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:35:07
Reese
What did he say?
00:35:07
Cokeley Brothers
Dumb idea, right?
00:35:08
Ryne
I mean, I do see Pyle's point, but also, yeah, i I mean, Christian is just so...
00:35:09
Reese
ah one ninety seven
00:35:17
Ryne
He's such an elitist without being an elitist. You know what I mean?
00:35:21
Reese
So we're talking about the fact that he wants him to go up to 197. Is that what we're talking about?
00:35:26
Ryne
Yes, because he thinks he's a better And, yeah...
00:35:26
Cokeley Brothers
He thinks...
00:35:31
Ryne
ah
00:35:32
Reese
And Dean?
00:35:32
Cokeley Brothers
Massima.
00:35:32
Ryne
and yeah And you know what?
00:35:35
Cokeley Brothers
and
00:35:35
Ryne
He might not be wrong, but also like the the fact that he's trying to be like, ah well, just because he won D3 titles doesn't mean jack. It's like, come on, dude.
00:35:46
Ryne
give the Give the guy his flowers.
00:35:49
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's insane to say Gabe Arnold, guy that didn't look very big at 184, guy who looked maybe a little small at 184, should go up to 197 and he won't have a problem.
00:36:00
Ryne
Yeah. And we're talking about... Dean's... He's a U23 team. It's not like... Yeah.
00:36:08
Ryne
it's not like yeah
00:36:08
Cokeley Brothers
And he's in the Iowa room with with Stephen Buchanan and AJ Ferrari and and eventually Ben Keeter.
00:36:12
Cokeley Brothers
you Yeah, things are going to develop for him pretty quickly.
00:36:20
Cokeley Brothers
Christian Piles doesn't understand weight classes, evidently, because he made this argument that weight didn't matter for Kyle Dick against Zahid Valencia. And now he thinks that Gabe Arnold would would be effective 197.
00:36:31
Cokeley Brothers
None of it's making sense. So...
00:36:32
Ryne
Well, I mean, to be fair, Christian Piles just doesn't understand because he's just never really, you know what I mean?
00:36:44
Ryne
Like, and
00:36:46
Cokeley Brothers
never, you know... and know
00:36:48
Ryne
at any level, at any level, he doesn't get it because he hasn't lived it
00:36:51
Cokeley Brothers
Sure. I mean, i feel like you i feel like you could still. feel like you could still, even without having lived it, like you could still understand to some capacity.
00:36:59
Ryne
No, my question is, what do the other dudes think? The other guys on on the flow radio, what do they think?
00:37:09
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, sometimes sometimes they they're just a bunch of yes men and they're just like, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.
00:37:12
Ryne
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of.
00:37:13
Reese
I think they just I think they they just don't feel as strongly as piles does about a lot of stuff.
00:37:14
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:37:18
Cokeley Brothers
That's probably what it is. that's that That to me is like why, dude, because they were also debating the whole Japan situation and like, yeah, Japan's just, it's not a long-term thing, blah, blah, blah. And you know what? Maybe they're right.
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
But like the way they went about it was just, it's very frustrating.
00:37:38
Reese
Yeah.
00:37:38
Cokeley Brothers
It was very frustrating for them. It's just whatever. It's fine. um Okay. Sidebar over. 197. Joey Novak, Steven Little.
00:37:49
Ryne
I actually love this matchup.
00:37:51
Cokeley Brothers
This is a good matchup. It's... It's 197. It's 197.
00:37:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:37:56
Reese
Could be, yeah, it could be like a ultimate tiebreaker whatever, whatever it was last year, and which was actually really exciting.
00:38:01
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Steven Little, Zach Bronicle.
00:38:05
Reese
Yeah.
00:38:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:38:06
Reese
Like tons of action, but no scoring really.
00:38:06
Cokeley Brothers
lot of exchanges. Mm-hmm. No scoring. Not to be confused with Lucas Bird's match against Nasir Bailey, which was no scoring.
00:38:18
Reese
No scoring.
00:38:18
Cokeley Brothers
No scoring at all. Very boring. And then finally to wrap it up, another, but like another, like I'm just super intrigued because we didn't see the, either of these guys at all last year.
00:38:29
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, and one of them's got a new home. It's younger Bastida versus, uh, take a dolly.
00:38:34
Ryne
Yeah, this is my second favorite match of the whole thing.
00:38:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. For me, it's, it's one 41 and then it's two
Anticipation for the All-Star Classic
00:38:41
Cokeley Brothers
85.
00:38:41
Ryne
Yes.
00:38:41
Cokeley Brothers
And then like, don't know after that, but yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for this for the set of matches, and I do want to do picks eventually. For now, going to hold off.
00:38:53
Cokeley Brothers
Figure out later.
00:38:57
Cokeley Brothers
But that's the All-Star Classic. There's also... There's a D2-D3 matchup. um There's a... There's four sets of women's matches. But we're idiots, so we don't know what's going on there.
00:39:10
Cokeley Brothers
So... um Other pieces of info. Other things going on. Real American Freestyle has an event coming up. It's not final. U23 entries are out.
00:39:24
Cokeley Brothers
I haven't done really enough research to kind of give the down low on it. um
00:39:31
Cokeley Brothers
And who's number one is happening this weekend? We can look at that. I don't really have... I probably have more to say about this year than last year, actually. Ryan, do you want to get off your phone and talk about it little bit maybe?
00:39:43
Ryne
Sorry, I was reading reading something really funny. It was actually hilarious.
00:39:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:39:49
Ryne
But, I mean, i before...
00:39:50
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. That's cool.
00:39:53
Ryne
I'm also always checking the the update to the Cubs game and the Chiefs game. Chiefs are tied 14-14 right now, by the way.
00:39:59
Cokeley Brothers
No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Whatever.
00:40:03
Ryne
So maybe maybe maybe I was too hard on the Jaguars. But...
00:40:07
Cokeley Brothers
and Maybe you were. Maybe Trevor Lawrence is starting to figure some things out. Maybe he was pretty good when he played for Clemson.
00:40:11
Ryne
Yeah...
00:40:13
Ryne
Michael Moreheader- Sure, I already knew that but.
00:40:15
Cokeley Brothers
Was it Clemson?
00:40:15
Ryne
Michael Moreheader- yeah you had it right you got it.
00:40:16
Cokeley Brothers
He played for Clemson? Okay. I was like, maybe it was Auburn. I don't know. An orange team. Syracuse? Anyway.
00:40:24
Ryne
Moreheader- you had a right Clemson.
00:40:27
Cokeley Brothers
Let's just run through some like some matches with some names that I recognize for who's number one. was like, that's a good idea. And it's actually... The first one, Rockland Zinken versus Dom Unoretto.
00:40:41
Cokeley Brothers
Who's number? Oh, so it's super strange. Wait. Oh, okay.
00:40:47
Ryne
No, that's a three-way, that's a three-way right?
00:40:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:49
Ryne
listen't it
00:40:50
Ryne
Isn't Dom...
00:40:50
Cokeley Brothers
Because I was like, Landon Sidon, where is he?
00:40:53
Cokeley Brothers
late So the winner of...
00:40:53
Ryne
Isn't Rocklin and Landon wrestling the wrestling and then the winner gets Dom? Isn't that how that one is?
00:40:59
Reese
think Landon...
00:41:00
Cokeley Brothers
Dom and Rockland. They're two and three, or three and two. And then the winner gets Sidon.
00:41:08
Ryne
weird to me.
00:41:09
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
00:41:11
Ryne
I don't know. I don't know. It just is. Because Dom, because, yeah, but Dom has all those world titles.
00:41:13
Cokeley Brothers
Don Monoretto took some losses.
00:41:17
Ryne
I don't know. But I also haven't been paying that close attention to the high school scene, so.
00:41:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah Yeah. It's always fun to see to see the the little mini brackets, even if it is half a mini bracket. Melvin Miller was supposed to wrestle Jaden James. i wonder I do wonder what happened. Maybe...
00:41:39
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe Jaden's getting bigger. Did you guys see the goat follower on Twitter? Jaden has an older brother. Jaden has an older brother who's about 200 something pounds and like built out. So yeah, Jaden's probably going to be like 184 in college.
00:41:54
Reese
All right.
00:41:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Which is intriguing.
00:41:58
Ryne
Jaden James.
00:42:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. What did I say? Jaden Rainey.
00:42:05
Ryne
I was just, I was clarifying.
00:42:07
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, cool. Yeah, you wouldn't need to if you were off your phone, but it's okay.
00:42:09
Ryne
ah i just, I'm trying to get some context here on what's going on.
00:42:11
Cokeley Brothers
Just...
00:42:14
Ryne
I'm sorry.
00:42:15
Reese
I got to ask you guys a question real quick.
00:42:15
Cokeley Brothers
On the matches?
00:42:17
Ryne
Yep.
00:42:17
Ryne
I'm ready.
00:42:17
Cokeley Brothers
Of course.
00:42:18
Reese
What did you think? What are your thoughts? What were your thoughts on the rocks pipes video that I sent you guys? Did you watch that video?
00:42:28
Ryne
Which, what? Whose hype video?
00:42:30
Reese
The pipes in the rocks?
00:42:33
Ryne
i What the fuck? That wasn't real. That was parody, right?
00:42:36
Cokeley Brothers
No, that was like ah that was like ah like a widest kids you know skit.
00:42:37
Reese
Yeah.
00:42:40
Ryne
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:41
Reese
That yeah, that dude's like, there's a lot of random comedy stuff.
00:42:41
Cokeley Brothers
like
00:42:45
Cokeley Brothers
that ah
00:42:47
Reese
How great was that video?
00:42:48
Cokeley Brothers
i I watched that at like... When did you send it? send it Yeah, I think you sent it yesterday.
00:42:54
Reese
Maybe yesterday?
00:42:55
Ryne
Yeah, I mean, I watched two minutes of it and was like, okay.
00:43:00
Cokeley Brothers
think I watched it this morning.
00:43:01
Ryne
It was the part where where it was clearly a false rock with pipes inside of it, and I was just like, done with this video.
00:43:09
Cokeley Brothers
Like I found this rock and I'm starting to get a headache and feeling tired.
00:43:12
Ryne
I'm really tired around it, yeah.
00:43:12
Reese
really tired.
00:43:15
Reese
Okay, I was talking to the 16-year-old, but I was just trying to find a rock expert.
00:43:15
Cokeley Brothers
ah um,
00:43:20
Reese
A rock pipe expert. All
00:43:24
Cokeley Brothers
um I watched it at like four o'clock this morning in bed with no audio on because I was right right next to ah ah my sleeping wife.
00:43:27
Reese
right.
00:43:34
Cokeley Brothers
And so I'm, um' it's it's kind of funnier to watch with no audio. um
00:43:39
Ryne
That's why I'm laughing.
00:43:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Cause I'm like, wow, this is crazy.
00:43:43
Ryne
I'm imagining you right
00:43:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:45
Reese
No, it's so much funnier with audio.
00:43:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:50
Ryne
But it's also funny to imagine someone watching it without audio trying to comprehend what's going on.
00:43:54
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:43:54
Reese
Yeah.
00:43:55
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:43:58
Cokeley Brothers
Couldn't really. Yeah, Reese, that was a good video. I like it when you send stuff to us.
00:44:05
Reese
I sent that to a bunch of people.
00:44:05
Cokeley Brothers
It's like... Good. You guys didn't respond to the thing that I sent, and that's fine.
00:44:10
Ryne
That's because your videos suck.
00:44:11
Cokeley Brothers
That's... That's freaking fine.
00:44:13
Reese
What did you send?
00:44:14
Cokeley Brothers
Whatever. Something like a every burger commercial ever.
00:44:21
Ryne
I don't even ever remember that. I'll
00:44:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yep, it's fine.
00:44:26
Cokeley Brothers
I'll just... a
00:44:26
Ryne
be 100% honest
00:44:28
Cokeley Brothers
lay down prone on the street and but like let the world figure it out.
00:44:32
Reese
prone.
00:44:35
Cokeley Brothers
Antonio Mills, Paul Kenny. Is that, that's the one that we saw at Fargo, right?
00:44:39
Ryne
At Fargo, yeah.
00:44:42
Cokeley Brothers
That match was fire.
00:44:43
Ryne
This will be folk style, though. Will it be more or less fire?
00:44:45
Cokeley Brothers
I know. You know what? They need to bring back, they need to bring back Freestyle, who's number one.
00:44:50
Ryne
They never will.
00:44:51
Cokeley Brothers
Those matches were gas. ah Yeah, two Mills brothers. Orion Mills is also wrestling. He's got Turner Ross, who I don't know much about.
00:44:59
Ryne
Turner's tough. Oklahoma kid. He's not bad.
00:45:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Jaden Rainey, Moses Mendoza. Apparently Moses Mendoza is becoming a force. Where's he committed to?
00:45:09
Ryne
Oregon State?
00:45:10
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:45:11
Ryne
Michigan.
00:45:12
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:45:14
Ryne
Michigan.
00:45:14
Cokeley Brothers
Which one is it?
00:45:15
Ryne
Michigan.
00:45:17
Ryne
I thought he was going to end up at Oregon State.
00:45:21
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, do you hear that?
00:45:22
Ryne
But I think he ended up at Michigan.
00:45:23
Reese
Yes. Cut that
00:45:24
Ryne
We can hear your keyboard, Sammy. It's not that quiet.
00:45:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but is it is it as loud as the last one?
00:45:29
Ryne
No.
00:45:29
Cokeley Brothers
Didn't think so.
00:45:30
Ryne
mr Mr.
00:45:31
Cokeley Brothers
Didn't think so. He appears to be...
00:45:32
Ryne
I have like seven keyboards. Yes.
00:45:34
Cokeley Brothers
He appears to be committed to Michigan.
00:45:36
Reese
cut that out
00:45:37
Ryne
Yes.
00:45:40
Ryne
Sorry.
00:45:40
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, Mendoza, Jaden Rainey, that'll be a really good one. Kobe Merrill, Michael Mako, even though it's not for number one, it's fine. It's still going to be ah pretty good matchup.
00:45:49
Ryne
Oh, no.
00:45:49
Cokeley Brothers
And then, of course, Bo...
00:45:50
Ryne
they'll Whoever wins will jump Dreshawn Ross.
00:45:54
Cokeley Brothers
Now... but Not in the rankings that matter.
00:45:55
Ryne
That's how Flo does it.
00:45:57
Cokeley Brothers
that's not though Those rankings matter, right? You want to be amateur hour, you use Flo's rankings.
00:45:59
Ryne
Yeah.
00:46:03
Ryne
I would never do that. Never to my boy, my homie.
00:46:05
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, alright.
00:46:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah And then to cap the night off, I got Bo Bassett, Jordan Rainey, which should be great. I
00:46:16
Ryne
I see all these all these burner accounts that just try to shit on Willie, and I'm just like, you guys are pussies.
00:46:24
Cokeley Brothers
i mean, I... going to get into Willie's antics on Twitter are very hot and cold for me.
00:46:29
Ryne
So funny.
00:46:30
Reese
He brings it on himself.
00:46:30
Ryne
So funny.
00:46:31
Cokeley Brothers
No, as it's very fresh.
00:46:31
Reese
He knows what he's doing.
00:46:33
Cokeley Brothers
it's But it's also... it's Yeah, i am
00:46:36
Ryne
Look, he's triggering you, Sammy. He's doing exactly what he wants.
00:46:40
Cokeley Brothers
I am pissed. I am pissed because we talked about this last episode. The fact that we are limiting competitive opportunities for wrestlers over what?
00:46:49
Ryne
I you want my honest opinion on that. I think that has less less to do with Willie than you think.
00:46:52
Cokeley Brothers
Over a...
00:46:56
Cokeley Brothers
im I'm sure it doesn't have something to do with Willie, but I, in my mind, it is at least a little hypocritical to be, to have, for him to have openly voiced the thoughts and feelings that he has about,
00:47:11
Cokeley Brothers
you know, holding onto things and not sharing things. Right. And I know we said, Oh, it's different. Cause it's media. It isn't it in it. And it isn't different it because you are limiting competitive opportunities for guys in a sport where we are already starved for matches.
00:47:26
Cokeley Brothers
We're starved, right?
00:47:26
Ryne
Listen, listen, listen.
00:47:28
Cokeley Brothers
Right. We're at the, brian we're at the food line and we're saying more, sir, please.
00:47:32
Ryne
Listen,
Concerns About Real American Freestyle
00:47:33
Cokeley Brothers
Can I have some more wrestling?
00:47:33
Ryne
what do you want Willie?
00:47:34
Ryne
I doubt it's Willie's decision. And what do want Willie to do? Condemn, condemn the people he works for?
00:47:41
Cokeley Brothers
I can, it I, in and maybe that's the problem. Maybe he's, maybe it's a situation where he doesn't feel comfortable saying I disagree with it.
00:47:48
Ryne
Yeah, because he believes in RAF and he wants to help it succeed and he doesn't want them to boot him, even if he does have feelings that are contradictory to what they're doing.
00:47:54
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. And so, and, and so I'll say, I'll be the guy who says what he thinks.
00:48:02
Cokeley Brothers
Real American Freestyle does not have enough of a presence and enough of a stranglehold on the market to be able to enforce ah non-competes upon athletes. ah Realistically.
00:48:13
Ryne
i think I think they do
00:48:13
Cokeley Brothers
Now, guys are obviously going to take the opportunity that they're providing because they're putting up a bunch of money behind it.
00:48:18
Cokeley Brothers
What that scares me by is the fact that if you turn through your money that quickly, how much longer are we going to be digging before we hit the bottom of the well?
00:48:30
Reese
damn
00:48:32
Ryne
Are you scared, Sammy?
00:48:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I mean, it's ah it's a it's a competitive league, an opportunity for more high-level wrestling. And if it is ah struck down by people working on the inside who have the wrong ideas, which is not what i I'm saying. I'm not saying that that's Willie.
00:48:51
Cokeley Brothers
Like we said, we don't know who's making the choices here. If the wrong people are making the the important choices and they're doing them incorrectly, then it won't work. and And this is, if this doesn't work, it'll be pretty hard to see anything that does work in the future, in my mind.
00:49:09
Reese
What are you doing over there?
00:49:10
Ryne
I didn't mean to. That was an accident. I was cleaning up some dust.
00:49:14
Cokeley Brothers
you just seem You just seem so uninvested, Ryan.
00:49:14
Ryne
And...
00:49:17
Ryne
No, I'm invested. i
00:49:18
Reese
what What was that?
00:49:18
Cokeley Brothers
And our viewers are concerned.
00:49:19
Reese
What good what does that?
00:49:19
Cokeley Brothers
Our
00:49:20
Ryne
i was listening to that.
00:49:20
Reese
but does yeah
00:49:21
Ryne
That was an accident. 100%.
00:49:22
Ryne
I didn't even know there was a disc in the PS4.
00:49:24
Cokeley Brothers
viewers are concerned, Ryan.
00:49:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, what was it?
00:49:28
Ryne
Big Bang Theory.
00:49:32
Ryne
that's That's why I went like this. i was like, what the...
00:49:37
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All right. I'm all out of stuff.
00:49:41
Ryne
no
00:49:43
Reese
I'm hungry.
00:49:44
Ryne
I'm hungry.
00:49:44
Cokeley Brothers
Reese is hungry.
00:49:45
Cokeley Brothers
I'm kind of tired.
00:49:47
Reese
Hunger.
00:49:47
Cokeley Brothers
It's late.
00:49:50
Cokeley Brothers
Hunger.
00:49:50
Ryne
Hunger.
00:49:52
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Closing thoughts.
00:49:54
Ryne
I think that we will be fine.
00:49:59
Reese
Yeah.
00:50:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, we'll be fine.
00:50:00
Reese
Everything's going okay. Everything's going to okay.
00:50:02
Ryne
Everything's going to work out.
00:50:02
Cokeley Brothers
Everything will be all right.
00:50:04
Ryne
There's a plan and it's all going to work out.
00:50:07
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:50:09
Ryne
Closing thoughts. you want to you want You want me to talk about the stuff I'm seeing on Twitter?
00:50:17
Cokeley Brothers
oh. What is it? What's on over there?
00:50:20
Ryne
Oh, son of a... Sorry, I'm looking at fantasy football now. um
00:50:26
Cokeley Brothers
You know what? Hang on. No, this got me, this got me into a bit because I did get, I got into a slight debate. I think this was, this was Saturday or Sunday because the all-star classic got dropped and people were complaining about the fact that it wasn't like the highest, the number one versus number two matchups.
00:50:43
Cokeley Brothers
And somebody was saying something to the effect of, ah well, to them, it's just not worth the risk. And I'm like, what risk? What risk is there?
00:50:55
Cokeley Brothers
they're They're being offered money to go wrestle. Okay? you're They're not going to have that happen for the rest of the season. And they're like, are you dumb? They're on scholarship. Clearly, they're getting paid. you're you shouldn't be this You shouldn't be this naive.
00:51:08
Cokeley Brothers
That's not how scholarships work. Scholarships are not contingent upon the fact that you will do this minimum number of competitions. Scholarships require that you remain academically eligible And that you what you you work to start.
00:51:20
Reese
you
00:51:21
Cokeley Brothers
right Those are like the two things that you have to do to retain your scholarship. And I don't know what n NIL looks like. I'm too i too old to know what that looks like. But
00:51:32
Cokeley Brothers
i don't I'm tired of like the whole it's not the worth the risk defense for people not competing anymore. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. It's one match.
00:51:43
Cokeley Brothers
You can get injured at injured at Nearly, maybe even a higher risk of injury in the practice room.
00:51:53
Ryne
Oh, 100% higher risk.
00:51:55
Cokeley Brothers
So, so if that's, if that's the case, well then maybe, maybe the people who ah are limiting themselves in the practice room, maybe they're the smartest people because it's just not worth the risk.
00:52:09
Cokeley Brothers
I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. It's not worth the risk. I'm tired of, of, and I think generally we're moving away from this idea that people should compete less. I think the fact that our top talent is younger is forcing the idea that they want to compete more often. They want to go out and have matches and therefore the top level is competing more often.
00:52:26
Cokeley Brothers
And it's just a good thing for the sport, at least right now.
00:52:28
Ryne
Well, yeah.
00:52:29
Cokeley Brothers
see see, what it looks like in the future, but yeah, I don't know what you guys think.
00:52:32
Ryne
Good thing for us.
00:52:36
Cokeley Brothers
I'm just sick of the, it's not worth the risk defense for people not competing, particularly state college.
Importance of Frequent Competition for Wrestlers
00:52:44
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, you know, we we're only going to wrestle what matches we have to wrestle because seemingly that's what it's like.
00:52:48
Ryne
No, I know, I know. I mean...
00:52:53
Ryne
I agree, but also, Kale's job is to is to bring home national titles individually and as a team.
00:53:03
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. and And that's, but so,
00:53:07
Ryne
What'd you say?
00:53:07
Cokeley Brothers
I guess you're right.
00:53:08
Ryne
You're cutting in and out, sorry. Hmm.
00:53:10
Cokeley Brothers
No, I mean, I was, I was in real life cutting in and out. Uh, just you're right. You're right. Because like the all-star classic doesn't actually matter. And then making, this is probably where the real issue resides.
00:53:20
Reese
Thank you.
00:53:23
Cokeley Brothers
The amount of money that the all-star classic is offering is probably not equitable to the amount of money that people are making through NIL and scholarship. And therefore they say, no, thank you.
00:53:34
Ryne
What about national duels though? Now that, that is where I'm kind of like, come on, Cale.
00:53:37
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:53:41
Ryne
Come on.
00:53:42
Cokeley Brothers
How much is it for first place?
00:53:44
Ryne
I don't, it doesn't take the money out of it.
00:53:47
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, but again, it doesn't, you got to win a national title.
00:53:47
Ryne
Take the money out of it.
00:53:52
Cokeley Brothers
National duels don't matter.
00:53:55
Ryne
But would it matter if it was sanctioned, if you were winning and you know what I'm saying?
00:53:58
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Yeah. I think that would be a different conversation and hopefully we're working our way towards that.
00:54:04
Ryne
Yeah, me too. But like, but so you're talking about what is something you're talking about the, n c you know, you just want it to be sanctioned by the NCAA for it to be real for you.
00:54:06
Cokeley Brothers
So,
00:54:16
Cokeley Brothers
Right, because because then then then he gets another tick in the win column for him.
00:54:17
Ryne
Come on now.
00:54:23
Ryne
It's a tick no matter what though.
00:54:23
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, God.
00:54:24
Ryne
You know what I mean?
00:54:26
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:54:26
Ryne
It's, it's all, it's,
00:54:26
Cokeley Brothers
First place at National Duels gets So 12 or 14. Who?
00:54:34
Ryne
divided by 10 is so 20,000 per starter or however many I guess well but let's say you have different guys wrestle huh
00:54:38
Cokeley Brothers
right so
00:54:41
Reese
But the wrestlers don't get the money.
00:54:41
Cokeley Brothers
twelve or fourteen
00:54:45
Ryne
we
00:54:45
Reese
The wrestlers don't get the money.
00:54:48
Cokeley Brothers
Well, they can.
00:54:49
Ryne
but the you distribute it my but you know what I mean obviously
00:54:49
Cokeley Brothers
It's up to the coaches. Yeah. Yeah. um They would for sure make money. like They would lose. It would cost some money to fly down there and stay and all that.
00:55:01
Cokeley Brothers
But they would ultimately make money.
00:55:03
Ryne
No, they wouldn't lose.
00:55:03
Cokeley Brothers
Now, is it worth the risk of injury?
00:55:04
Ryne
what do you mean? They wouldn't lose money. The school would pay for that.
00:55:07
Cokeley Brothers
Well, yeah. But like it comes out of the budget, traveling for that and everything.
00:55:11
Ryne
Dude.
00:55:13
Cokeley Brothers
It's middle school.
00:55:13
Ryne
You think?
00:55:13
Cokeley Brothers
All right. i'm I'm not, I'm not making, I'm not saying like it's an, it's an excuse.
00:55:14
Ryne
Yeah. No.
00:55:17
Cokeley Brothers
I'm just like factoring in all of the, the, the the digits.
00:55:18
Ryne
Feels like it.
00:55:21
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but, uh, yeah, it's free money for Penn state.
00:55:23
Ryne
Yeah.
00:55:27
Cokeley Brothers
They would take first pretty easily. Um, yes.
00:55:31
Ryne
Ooh, pretty easily.
00:55:34
Reese
Probably.
00:55:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:55:36
Ryne
I don't know.
00:55:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, for sure. Yeah.
00:55:39
Ryne
I don't know about that.
00:55:41
Cokeley Brothers
Who's going to challenge them?
00:55:43
Ryne
I think David Taylor is going to challenge him this year.
00:55:46
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:55:49
Cokeley Brothers
Their, their team, at least right now, their team is not looking amazing.
00:55:55
Ryne
Why? What do you mean not looking amazing?
00:55:57
Cokeley Brothers
Because we don't know what Alex Fakundo is going to look like. We don't even know if Lederian Lockett's going to be in the lineup right away. And if he is ready to go immediately. um I still think there are some questions around, Merrill. I still think, um, they haven't figured out what's happening between one 33 and one 49, one even.
00:56:19
Ryne
He's good. They're going to have a good team.
00:56:21
Reese
Mm-hmm.
00:56:23
Cokeley Brothers
think have a good team, but like, especially early on national duels are, um, they are November 15th, 16th, those two days.
00:56:34
Cokeley Brothers
It's very early on in the season.
00:56:34
Ryne
Have you, ye of little faith with the magic man.
00:56:38
Cokeley Brothers
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, and you know what? This is going to get dropped on October 7th. This episode is, they won't necessarily have their lineup fully figured out now on October 7th, which is tomorrow, which, so if you're listening, it's today.
00:56:52
Cokeley Brothers
ah The seats, they'll they'll be seating the top four teams for the national duels. And then everybody else will get randomly drawn in. The show to announce the seeds and announce the bracket will happen on the 7th at like 7 Eastern. and Flow is broadcasting it.
00:57:10
Cokeley Brothers
Flow has all of the duels except for the finals. yeah ESPN has the finals. um
00:57:16
Ryne
Are you guys going?
00:57:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I want to, Rhys. Rhys, can we make it happen?
00:57:24
Cokeley Brothers
Please?
00:57:24
Reese
Maybe. Maybe.
00:57:25
Ryne
How about this?
00:57:26
Cokeley Brothers
Please?
00:57:27
Ryne
December 21st, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, and Lincoln. Can we make that happen? December 21st.
00:57:34
Reese
maybe
00:57:36
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, for sure.
00:57:38
Ryne
I'm forcing Zach Hensley to go with me. I'm going to drag him down there.
00:57:41
Cokeley Brothers
I feel like he would be more than happy, wouldn't he? This is all modern.
00:57:45
Ryne
Uh, yeah, but I mean, all right. I basically got to tell his wife.
00:57:48
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, alumnus.
00:57:49
Ryne
I got to be like Sydney. I'm taking your husband with me this weekend.
00:57:51
Cokeley Brothers
My wife.
00:57:53
Ryne
He's mine, not yours. He's mine.
00:57:58
Cokeley Brothers
And you can hold on to Roman. and
00:58:00
Ryne
And Winnie, they have two now.
00:58:02
Cokeley Brothers
And Winnie.
00:58:04
Ryne
Winnie page.
00:58:06
Cokeley Brothers
Winnie Page. ah
00:58:08
Ryne
She's adorable.
00:58:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:58:09
Ryne
She's a little cutie.
00:58:11
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:58:15
Cokeley Brothers
The season's coming. It's coming quickly.
00:58:20
Cokeley Brothers
Be ready for it. And yes, we will figure out what we are going to, because I do want to go to stuff this year. I'm going to try and go to an Indiana dual and a Cornell dual, at least one each. Um, and be a good fan of the sport.
00:58:32
Ryne
Ooh, which Indiana duel should you go to?
00:58:33
Cokeley Brothers
So,
00:58:35
Ryne
Let me look it up for you, Sammy.
00:58:37
Cokeley Brothers
all right, while you look that up, we're going wrap things up. Have a good, good rest of your day, whatever it is that you're listening. um Do all the things, liking and subscribing and sharing and tweeting and twatting.
00:58:50
Cokeley Brothers
Goodbye.
00:58:52
Reese
who