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Cokeley Brothers: Welcome back to another episode of the barn session, everybody. it is a two-man show tonight. you know You know what I was thinking about, Reese? You know what thinking about?
Reese: What?
Cokeley Brothers: We should start doing these live.
Reese: Yeah. How would we do that?
Cokeley Brothers: Never mind. Never mind.
Reese: Should we do collars?
Cokeley Brothers: After that sound, i don't I don't want to do it live.
Reese: I was getting rid of my gum because you told me no more gum.
Cokeley Brothers: No more gum. Uh... don't Don't worry about the how. I'll handle the how. Just, what do you think?
Reese: I think that's a great idea and I would love to have Collins. I would love Collins. I would love it.
Cokeley Brothers: ah I don't think.
Reese: I think that would be amazing.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. We can have a deeper conversation about that. Well, folks, we might do we might start doing these live. I don't know. We'll see. Everybody else does them live. Why shouldn't we? ah But outside of that, there was a pretty loaded slate of wrestling that went down this weekend, and I didn't watch a whole lot of it.
Cokeley Brothers: Too busy in love, spending time, it being in love. And so, Reese, you're going to have to do a lot of driving.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm-hmm.
Reese: I'm unloved, so I watched all of the wrestling this weekend um from Ohio State and Penn State all the way to
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. All right.
Reese: um Binghamton versus Chattanooga.
Cokeley Brothers: Did you?
Reese: I think it was
Cokeley Brothers: Now Binghamton wrestled Cornell and that's it.
Reese: right. Binghamton Cornell.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, Cornell Chattanooga, same, same. It's all the same.
Reese: All of it. I watched it all and um it was it was okay. It was an okay weekend. it wasn It wasn't... I mean, there were some good matches, obviously, but I think we should start with the most recent one.
Cokeley Brothers: For sure, for sure.
Reese: Jax Seidel. The match happened. So what was the deal with...
Cokeley Brothers: Oh yeah.
Reese: like I mean, I'm a little lost on like why did when was it decided that Jax was... I mean, does anybody really know when Jax... Like, because wasn't Jack supposed to go wrestle out of tournament and get more matches?
Cokeley Brothers: So the, what was reportedly happening is Jack's forest was going to go wrestle at an open tournament to get more matches for RPI.
Cokeley Brothers: But then that didn't happen.
Reese: Yeah. but We don't know why.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, may I don't know. I don't even i don't even know what opening would have wrestled that. I'm assuming maybe they were looking at the entries and they're like, there's not even enough guys who are RPI eligible. So like,
Reese: maybe that Maybe that's what happened.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah.
Reese: No way.
Cokeley Brothers: Or they were just like, you know what? Do we need RPI to win this thing? Do we really need it?
Reese: m I mean, maybe they were like, ah what if we lose? Which they very well would have lost. No way. Did Mullen? I can't remember. Did Mullen win?
Cokeley Brothers: ah No, Jimmy Mullen did not win. It was 19 to 12, but that's a seven point difference, which Seidel could have gotten bonus for sure.
Reese: No.
Reese: And Cybele could have gotten bonus. Probably would have gotten bonus. Let's be real. it's
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, the dude is.
Reese: He looks really freaking good.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. So yeah, let's dig into that match, dude. Three takedowns to one in favor of Seidel, but ah Troy, well, Flo has it saying Troy Spratley beat Aaron Seidel, but Jax Forrest beat Aaron Seidel.
Cokeley Brothers: And 10 to nine got a, well, it got three escapes, one takedown and four near fall.
Reese: Yes. 24.
Cokeley Brothers: And that's, that's all it took.
Reese: twenty club Did you see did you see like the takedown sequence where he got the back points?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, so I was listening to the play-by-play, but I did go back and watch it. ah
Reese: Oh, you watched my whole thing.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, it felt like a, i don't know, maybe a lapse in side...
Reese: I just was like, how did he get that? How did he do that? What even was that?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. And it felt like on some of those takedowns for Seidel, it felt like there was definitely an opportunity for Seidel to keep Jax on his back and get near fall.
Cokeley Brothers: And Jax found a way to get off his back and
Reese: Good robbery.
Cokeley Brothers: he's rubbery. He's, he's got.
Reese: That first take down, that was like, that was pretty like rookie mistake by Jax.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Reaching up, fifth least what are you doing?
Cokeley Brothers: I, I, I think, I think we could see Jack's clean it up a little bit, but man,
Reese: Yeah. But those, those two takedowns that Seidel had on them were nice. The second and third ones.
Cokeley Brothers: dude,
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: seeing Seeing somebody take Jax down three times like that, you can't help but feel like he's capable of doing that against everybody else.
Reese: And the dude is like, he's got that, he's got that crab half down and he's like, that's it. That's nice. You know? And I've been waiting, I've been dying to see somebody with a good tight waist half.
Reese: Uh, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, clingy.
Reese: Crab ride. I love that.
Cokeley Brothers: So clingy.
Reese: Yeah. I love it.
Cokeley Brothers: I... I really cannot believe he didn't find a way to turn him. He was riding tough, but both picked neutral. Yeah, an awesome match.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't, I don't feel, i don't feel confident in Jax after the match though.
Reese: Oh, really?
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, who did you feel like was the better wrestler?
Reese: i don't know, dude. I think that was like a total coin flip.
Cokeley Brothers: It's pretty even.
Cokeley Brothers: it's pretty even, but like going into the match going, going into the match.
Reese: And yeah, Jax is kind of a winner to me.
Cokeley Brothers: I was, I guess I was expecting Jax to like show a little bit of separation maybe, but i mean, he needed some.
Reese: I mean, obviously, dollars yeah I know. I think Jax has benefited from better training throughout high school. And inside out now, Seidel is in an environment where he's getting better training.
Reese: And maybe he's finally jumped a level.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, and ah ah something that got brought up is the fact that Jax has only been in a college room for a month. i don't like Officially, yeah, but i mean he's been training with the league guys since like his sophomore year of high school.
Cokeley Brothers: So I don't think the effect is going to have quite as much.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: But i mean yes, he does have. He has another month before...
Reese: He was also going to Oklahoma State like well before he officially moved there.
Cokeley Brothers: Right. He was going down there with, with Zoe and fix and, uh, now he's there full time. So yes, there's definitely some improvements to be made over the next half month and and one month until NCAAs. But man, I mean, yeah, this, this group of freshmen, those two side Ellen and forest with the Vino and blaze.
Cokeley Brothers: And then you just tack on the the two seniors, Bert, Bert, Bert and Iola. And then everybody else at one 33 is going to be a good weight.
Reese: So good. I haven't been, I mean, this is about as excited as I've been for a weight and maybe ever. And it's like mostly freshmen, which is, that's the craziest part. I mean, how many will stay at 133?
Cokeley Brothers: Well,
Reese: Who knows? Probably, probably most of them I would say. Well, I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think Forest is going to stay.
Reese: Maybe not. Yeah. Blaze, maybe an not either. I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Blaze might have to. ah He'd go up to 41.
Reese: He can go up.
Cokeley Brothers: Give Ono 33.
Reese: I think Blaze is probably like...
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah,
Reese: He can go wherever he wants, probably.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah probably. He's probably got ah an edge on Ono.
Reese: Oh. Yeah, I forgot it
Cokeley Brothers: but like even still, I think he's got an edge on a guy like, Oh no.
Reese: about him. Oh, there's a little dude. He's a little dude.
Cokeley Brothers: He, yeah. Like he's definitely more of a 33 than he has a 41. Um, and like, I, I really don't think on I know scoring is as strong in folk style as it, as it is in freestyle,
Reese: Probably not. Probably not.
Cokeley Brothers: but we'll see.
Reese: Who knows?
Cokeley Brothers: um But yeah, the match before that, Ventresca beat Troy Spratley in a very 125 match.
Reese: Why is 125 so buns? Why is it so bad?
Cokeley Brothers: had i
Reese: It's so bad.
Cokeley Brothers: I think all the guys just know how to wrestle each other, and they are trying to win chess matches rather than...
Reese: what you're saying is nuke the way, just nuke it.
Cokeley Brothers: than ah
Reese: and get a fresh batch of
Cokeley Brothers: You just need somebody you need somebody to come in and throw a stone and really really shake shake things up
Reese: I mean, because it's brutal.
Cokeley Brothers: You need a Spencer Lee. Yeah.
Reese: It is brutal. I mean, why do guys like Spratly, who I feel like Spratly is kind of like probably a notch better than a lot of the guys. Why do you, why would you, I mean, like Ventresca is tough to score on, obviously, but just letting it go to those right outs, not That thing, hate those writeouts so much.
Reese: I hate those writeouts.
Cokeley Brothers: theyre I think they're becoming a problem. There's a couple of things that are very clearly becoming problematic for the sport at the college level. Rideouts, reaction time, stalling, those are three things that definitely jump out to me.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: And stalling, I thought, was going to be a huge issue by the end of the season. It's kind of fallen, taken a little bit of a backseat to reaction time, which is all refs seemingly are completely changing their definition of what that is.
Cokeley Brothers: And I don't know why, but
Reese: Yeah, there was a match in that duel where there, yeah, there was a big call. There was like a call where it was like, what match was that? I think it was maybe Sasso.
Reese: Sasso and who's there? Oh, Merrill. I can't remember who. I think Merrill had takedown.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm-hmm.
Reese: I can't remember who challenged, but it was like one of those situations where, don't know, he had the takedown the guy just got to stand up. Ah. Man, I got to really – I can't remember if it was that match or not.
Reese: But, yeah, it was a situation where, like, fully behind him and, like, yeah, they're giving guys, a um ah like, a whole, like – Like, enough time to react to a guy.
Reese: This guy spun behind me. I'm on all fours. And they're giving me enough time to react to, like, hit a stand up to my feet and, like, clear out or whatever. i don't know. It feels –
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Feels weird, but I don't know I don't know how i feel about it. i'm like I'm not as, I don't think I'm as upset about it as a lot of other people are, but I don't know
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. um And Sasso won that match against Cody Merrill. That's ah that's a big win for him.
Reese: know. Oh yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: a little surprising that this dual Oklahoma state, Virginia tech, 19 to 12. This is close. Now, Oklahoma state did have backup in at one 49 with Bo Hickman and a backup in at one 84 with Trevor Dobbs. But I mean, i don't even know if, I don't know if Zach Ryder is going to be,
Cokeley Brothers: ah capable in March.
Reese: Dude, it was interesting listening to the the guy, Rock Harrison. I can never remember the other dude's name, but he's the man.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. He's really good. He's, I can't remember his name though.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: They were talking about Trevor Dobbs having a conversation with David Taylor about what way he could go that would, you know, where he could potentially like be a starter. And he was like, go 184. And I don't know. They were just talking about it casually, but in my mind, I was thinking, interesting.
Reese: That tells me that David Taylor does not have as much faith in Zack Ryder and, you know, company or whoever as like I would have thought he he would, you know?
Cokeley Brothers: Well, yeah. but So there's some guys that are off the Oklahoma State roster. It's Braden Thompson and somebody else, right?
Reese: Jersey Rob.
Cokeley Brothers: Is it Jersey Robb?
Reese: Pretty sure.
Cokeley Brothers: I think a third person as well.
Reese: Pretty sure.
Cokeley Brothers: Person whose name I did not recognize quite so much. ah So that kind of leaves like if Zack Ryder does fall through, which he's had shoulder issues in the past, I'm pretty sure. um Yeah, this, this, yeah, that makes sense. That tracks.
Reese: Yeah, I wonder if that, I mean, go ahead.
Cokeley Brothers: um At least give yourself.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, like if there's nobody else at the weight other than Zack Ryder, then you're automatically the second string.
Reese: Yeah, I guess so. I wonder if that conversation was prior to or after Ryder got hurt.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I don't know.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know. But I mean, you know, Dops went out there and lost a 2-0 match to Jaden Bullock. becauses not That's not a bad result.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: um So he could at least go out there and try to make some noise.
Reese: Dops, Kansas boy.
Cokeley Brothers: Kansas boy.
Reese: Have we talked about that He's a Kansas boy.
Cokeley Brothers: He's a Kansas boy. Goddard.
Reese: I mean, good how long – I swear to God, I feel like that dude – how long has he been in college?
Cokeley Brothers: We don't love him, but they represent.
Reese: I feel like he was – yeah, I feel like he was in high school.
Cokeley Brothers: It's been a while.
Reese: I mean, he was like – he graduated like 67 ago.
Cokeley Brothers: he He might have been a freshman when I was a senior. I think he was in Cade Lout's grade, which makes sense because Cade is also a senior this year. Yeah,
Reese: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: I think so.
Cokeley Brothers: But yeah, um other than that, I mean, Landon Robidoux had a close match, 3-2 match with Ethan Miller outside of that.
Reese: Miller, bro. He looked huge. Did you see him?
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, no, but I've seen him earlier this year.
Reese: no think why He looks big.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Suspiciously big.
Reese: wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Cokeley Brothers: think Wink, wink.
Cokeley Brothers: um Okay, let's put him on my watch.
Reese: Put him on my watch.
Cokeley Brothers: Where do you want to go? There's a couple other duels that i would I would like to take a look at, but drive for me.
Reese: And I'm just kidding. Of course I'm kidding. I would never say that about a Park Hill boy. Beck, if you're listening.
Reese: All right. Anyway.
Cokeley Brothers: Hi, Beck, if you're listening.
Reese: what Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: miss Miss you.
Reese: Yeah. Back to the man.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Where do you want to go next? What duel? The big duel?
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Reese: Truth be told, that's actually the only other duel I watched.
Cokeley Brothers: Let's take a look. Okay.
Reese: That's... Yeah. Well, actually, no, I watched...
Cokeley Brothers: there's There's still some...
Reese: What was after that duel? I watched that duel, too.
Cokeley Brothers: Iowa, Michigan?
Reese: I watched that whole duel, too. That was a good duel.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. that why I want to talk about that one. Okay.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: All right, big duel, probably one of the bigger duels of the year. Penn State, Ohio State.
Reese: Thank
Cokeley Brothers: Now, it could have been it could have been a spectacle. It was a little hampered by injuries for Ohio State, which is unfortunate. um Penn State wins 36-5, so an ass-beating.
Cokeley Brothers: so an ass beating um They didn't have Ohio State did not have Ethan Stiles at 149 or Brandon Cannon at 157 or um Carson Hartschel at 174. So missing three of their 10 guys and ah all of those matches are matches. Well, maybe not 149 so much, but 157 to 174. You definitely look as an Ohio State fan to say, this is where we can find an opportunity.
Cokeley Brothers: So that's unfortunate. But let me let's just start at 125. sudden victory win for Luke O'Dall. Honestly, I'm, i I'm content with that. If I'm an Ohio state fan,
Reese: Yeah, he went the distance.
Cokeley Brothers: that tells me that, that Bousakis will not fade in period two or three off a one hour way in.
Reese: Yeah, it would have been like watching him.
Cokeley Brothers: So give him a two hour way in.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: I mean, there was a part of me that was worried that maybe he could like potentially get picked apart. And that didn't happen.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: So that's good.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. 100%. Uh, I look, Nick Bousakis has been a treat.
Reese: I don't really remember the match. Did he ever get to any like good attacks?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm going level with you Reese. I didn't see this duel. I was driving at the time of the duel.
Reese: Oh, that's right.
Cokeley Brothers: So yeah.
Reese: I forgot. You already, you already announced that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Reese: Yeah. I can't remember if that match was, they kind of just stood around or but but they probably just stood around if I don't remember the match.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Cokeley Brothers: Most likely, but you know, Luke Lillard all he's capable of opening up his ah offense and, and, and doing a lot more than what he's shown so far this season.
Reese: You think so?
Cokeley Brothers: I, I mean, i guess maybe I'm just leaning too much into his freestyle accolades, but I don't know. That's my thought.
Reese: don't know either.
Reese: i don't want i don't want to think that he's that much better, but he might be.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Okay.
Reese: I don't know. He can be.
Cokeley Brothers: i Sometimes i gotta to remind myself colleges. It's just a different beast.
Reese: Right.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Yeah.
Reese: Yeah. Get sucked into the beast of it.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yes. 100%.
Reese: Especially apparently at 125, which is you know, a weight you wouldn't think would be like that, but it is apparently.
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Reese: 125 and 197.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Willie, Willie sailor.
Reese: You sound salty. You see
Cokeley Brothers: went on a diatribe about it one time about how 125 used to be like the weight of weights because there was all this motion and high activity and high level wrestling because you have to be at like a technical mastermind to excel at that level at that weight.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Reese: um he's smell haty me?
Cokeley Brothers: What do you mean?
Reese: about the You sound like you don't buy it. You don't believe what he's you don't believe in what he's saying.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, i look, i don't i don't have like I don't have doubts, but I think ah I'm a little too late to the scene to really say how things used to be like prior to Spencer Lee, really. like I saw some Thomas Gilman times, but that was really it.
Reese: those little dudes used to, I don't know, there there used to be a lot less standing around for sure.
Cokeley Brothers: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Reese: I mean, it's just the truth. Matt McDonough was not standing around ever.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah, there's a whole conversation that needs to be had about Iowa.
Reese: Nico Megalutis was not doing that shit.
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Reese: Sean Garrett? No. No, sir.
Cokeley Brothers: Couldn't, couldn't, couldn't, he couldn't be found standing around.
Reese: No.
Cokeley Brothers: It just doesn't work for him.
Reese: Impossible. Impossible.
Cokeley Brothers: No, not, it's not in his, in his, in his bones. 133. Marcus Blaze gets a reversal in tiebreakers to be Ben Dovino three to two. who who
Reese: Well, yeah, I mean, that was also just a terrible match, but whatever.
Cokeley Brothers: note No, so ah no, no. So I did record a preview for this duel.
Reese: probably.
Cokeley Brothers: ah But for some reason, the ah video just completely did something didn't work either way. ah What I said would happen in this duel ah was that um
Cokeley Brothers: neither of these two guys were going to try and win this match. with like the idea of the duel on the line. They were going to use this matchup as an opportunity to assess each other and themselves and the matchup to figure out what is going to work and and what has changed since the last time we wrestled.
Cokeley Brothers: It was going to be a chess match so that they could figure things out for big tens and for nationals. That was my, my estimation.
Reese: That would have been a good video.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: But that's OK.
Reese: That's what happened.
Cokeley Brothers: ah
Reese: Well, I mean, if that really, i mean, they barely did anything.
Cokeley Brothers: And yeah, that's that's exactly what happened.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: it's hard I mean, dude, I i can't imagine wrestling Ben Dabino or Marcus Blaze for that matter. And like, I can't imagine wrestling them and feeling confident in like my ability to get through their head and their hands. So, I mean, I don't blame him.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: I don't know what to say.
Cokeley Brothers: mean, they're very very defensively stout. Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Hopefully, yeah, I don't know. I mean, Al got to Davino's leg that one time, he and he he had him taken down. he would if he had a little more time, he probably would have taken him down.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Has Davino taken down this season?
Cokeley Brothers: And and he. you know, I think so.
Reese: No, okay.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not.
Reese: using our I would have thought somebody would have mentioned him if he hadn't been taken down.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe not.
Reese: or so if Either way, Mark's first win.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: um Yeah. it's A lot of people are talking about these two guys and the other two guys from Virginia Tech and Oklahoma State. I'm telling you right now, there's something something stinks about this weight that like just tells me that an Iowa wrestler is going to win it.
Reese: What?
Cokeley Brothers: Yes.
Reese: Why?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I don't know, Reese.
Reese: there's only one eye on it.
Cokeley Brothers: Something about it smells like Drake Ayala is going to win the weight.
Reese: Interesting. So it's just like gut feeling.
Cokeley Brothers: i It is 100% like I feel it. I feel it in my bones.
Reese: Well, you know, i'm a pretty superstitious guy.
Cokeley Brothers: And look,
Reese: so that, i mean I'm sold, but I also am like, no way.
Cokeley Brothers: I There's no, yeah. And, and you know, you know what Reese, I think a lot of people at the end of the year, he's going to win it and they're going to be like, that's a fraudulent champ.
Reese: think he's going to win it fraudulently.
Cokeley Brothers: But, but you know what we say? We say Iowa needs this.
Reese: Fraudulently like, you know, like a butt like a bus is going crash.
Cokeley Brothers: Like, ah no no no no no no no, no, nobody's getting a tire iron to the shin in the, in the tunnel race.
Reese: Oh, fraudulent anyway.
Cokeley Brothers: No, I'm saying like, I'm saying like Max Dean 2021 NCAA title 197 pounds.
Reese: Bad call.
Reese: You just threw him right out there, right over the bus.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, I mean, we can, we can be real open and honest. That was one of the most insane series of events.
Reese: No bias there. No bias whatsoever.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Definitely bias. Won't even hide it. And you know what? I'm happy for him to have it.
Reese: I don't even remember the match.
Cokeley Brothers: No, no, no. Matches. Match. Plural.
Reese: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Quarters and semis. And then he had Jacob Warner in the finals.
Reese: That was forever ago. Oh, yeah, Jacob Warner. That dude deserved to lose. No shade to Jacob Warner, but that dude was fucking, oh, my God, cancerous to watch.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh my goodness. Yeah. Well, we all have our opinions, right?
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: I didn't.
Reese: My opinion is...
Cokeley Brothers: I think. I think.
Reese: Don't shoot.
Cokeley Brothers: i think
Reese: you don't shoot. You don't deserve to win. That's my opinion.
Cokeley Brothers: i think I think Jacob Warner was a treat he was a treat to watch in high school.
Reese: Well, sorry.
Reese: Yeah, exactly. I remember watching the fire.
Cokeley Brothers: and And then that went away.
Reese: Yeah, what happened? What is it? Yeah. Anyway. 141. 141. and forty one
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. ah Back to the duel. Penn State up 6-0. Jesse Mendes gets a tech fall over Brayden Davis. Felt good.
Cokeley Brothers: Felt good. Felt great.
Reese: Yeah, you like that, huh?
Cokeley Brothers: ah that's so That's the last good feeling you get.
Reese: We never got to talk about ah Davis and Brock Hardy. what What were your thoughts on that whole deal?
Cokeley Brothers: oh yeah. I mean, know, there's both sides of it, right? you Like, look, Brock Hardy. Brock Hardy's a good guy. Most people are going to say, like...
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I deserve that. ah But Brayden Davis is a sore loser. About as sore of a loser as it gets. ah And so when you pat him on the chest after he was beating you and then you pinned him, yeah, that's going to happen.
Reese: I agree.
Cokeley Brothers: But you know what? Just makes Penn State look more villainous. Is there a cap? What's happening?
Reese: Wow. These cats eat, they eat, uh, they try to eat these. They steal these and they like them a lot for some reason. They like packing food a lot.
Cokeley Brothers: That's not it's not good for their diaries.
Reese: Not good, dude. I don't know why, but they like, they love it. Um,
Cokeley Brothers: Interesting.
Reese: I did. i was like, yeah, who gives a shit? You get, I mean, who cares whether it was or wasn't disrespect who like that's, I mean, Braden Davis's reaction fund.
Cokeley Brothers: You got.
Reese: I don't like that. Didn't bother me that much either. I mean, he could have maybe hurt Brock like with those kicks.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Probably not.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: I mean, it was sore loser behavior. Yeah. Sure. The, the people like that actually upset me were people like Don Bishada, who, who like, Don like tweeted some shit like that was, uh, that was very, uh, that was like, exactly said it was like, it was the wrong thing to do. And you, you know, you would expect more from an elder statesman. That's, that was his exact, uh, verbiage was called Brock and elder statesman saying it was the wrong thing to do at that time was pat him on the chest after he had just pinned him. Like what? Shut up, dude.
Reese: your mouth.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, the look.
Reese: That was one of those sweet where drafted a reply and then deleted it, obviously.
Cokeley Brothers: I, I, I can't, I can't handle that guy on Twitter anymore.
Reese: But yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: So I have.
Reese: Yeah, he's been pretty active lately. You bought him, is what you said?
Cokeley Brothers: That's good for him. No, i didn't block him, but I just.
Reese: You muted him?
Reese: You're not going to say what you did?
Cokeley Brothers: i keep myself I keep myself uninvolved because you know it's not there's not a conversation to have. It's just
Reese: Well, he's definitely like, he's baiting. It's been like confirmed that he'sri he's rage baiting. That tweet, though, I felt like wasn't, that was like him just like being a Penn State meat writer.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh.
Reese: I'm just like, me why would you twist why would you twist that thing? and like why would you twist it like that?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, because he he was saying he was saying like you did that to a guy in his home, like with a home crowd that big, like like you knew that you knew what kind of reaction you were inciting.
Reese: up.
Reese: shut
Cokeley Brothers: And like Brock Hardy apologized for it and ah in an interview like a week later. But fuck Brock Hardy, you just you don't have you don't have any ah responsibility in that situation.
Reese: No.
Cokeley Brothers: So.
Reese: I mean, dude. Yeah, that that was a that was just like a one a little not contained incident, obviously, but I just like with that kind of thing, I'm almost like, I almost feel like some people don't deserve to have an opinion that they can share in the public.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah
Reese: That's how I feel.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Sometimes.
Cokeley Brothers: This is why you just got to Got to keep your. Right.
Reese: Obviously, I didn't Obviously, it's not bothering me anymore. Right. Anyway.
Cokeley Brothers: not ah Not one bit.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: 149. Shane Van Ness gets a tech fall over Brogan Fielding. Sorry, Brogan. 157. PJ Duke gets a pin over Daxton Chase. Sorry, Daxton. Mitchell Mezenbrink gets a major over Patty Gallagher. ah People are calling for for Ethan Burden to be the guy at this weight.
Reese: ah you What did Mr. Maren get? He got a major?
Cokeley Brothers: Major.
Reese: I think burden would have been teched. So don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Patty... Yeah, maybe. Did you did you notice something? Because I saw this clip. Patty, like, towards the end of the match, they're going they went out bounds went back to the center of the mat.
Cokeley Brothers: And Patty, like, taps him on the back of the... Or, like, does, like, a double back, like, pat as they're going back. Kind of not too dissimilar from, like, what Mitchell was doing to Jordan Burroughs when they wrestled.
Cokeley Brothers: and And Mitchell, like, like flew his... Flung his hand off.
Reese: Really?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm like, interesting.
Reese: didn't see that.
Cokeley Brothers: Interesting to me. ah I don't know. It's just an interesting little little wrinkle. Probably doesn't mean anything, but don't know.
Reese: Man, I just want to say this one thing. Like, football, when you watch a football game, the amount of like little shit that they do, like the chirping and the little, the little chubs, like it's like, there's no comparison between football and wrestling.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Reese: And like those dudes, when they get like a little like shoulder, you know, like if someone's chirping in their ear or if they get like, you know, shoulder checked or whatever, they just can, they just keep walking.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Reese: They don't let it bother them. So I, I think wrestlers should maybe you know have a little bit more discipline and a little bit thicker skin.
Reese: That's kind of where I'm at
Cokeley Brothers: think I think it also it comes with the sport, right? In football, there there is like trash talking and chirping. it is If you aren't doing it in the sport, then you're not really in the sport.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Wrestling...
Reese: You don't think that's a part of wrestling?
Cokeley Brothers: ah Dude, i can't I can't tell you...
Reese: It's not, really.
Cokeley Brothers: i think I don't think I've ever said like a negative thing to my opponent in the middle of a match. Ever.
Reese: You know, has Ben Ashburn.
Cokeley Brothers: You?
Reese: He did it all the time.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh.
Reese: Apparently he was like, we're finallying right here
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, and Gable Steveson apparently would like like well they have somebody when i have somebody on a front headlock, he's saying stuff to them.
Reese: So some people do, it some people do it.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Not everybody.
Cokeley Brothers: Whatever. i don't know. i
Reese: it's It's definitely less of a of a thing than and compared to football. I mean, cause like, yeah, I mean, I didn't watch a lot of football. I mean, you know this, I didn't watch a lot of football at all until like really a few years ago.
Reese: And, you know, those last few years, like I was like over the last few years, I've just like, i didn't realize how much shit talking there was in between plays in football.
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Reese: And now I've, now I realize that it's just a part of the game. And that's because, you know, I only wrestled pretty much my whole life and there really isn't a lot of shit talking in wrestling.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: No, there's not, not like not on the map, not before match, not after a match, not when you see the guy on the street, like it's just not that kind of sport.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: it's not like we're like, we're better than football players.
Reese: Doesn't mean that.
Cokeley Brothers: No, it's just different. Yeah.
Reese: Yeah. little More of whatever honor. not That sound that makes it sound like we think we're better, but Hey, I do think that guys should maybe have thicker skin.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I mean, for sure.
Reese: That was my, that was the bottom line there.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah
Reese: I'm going to go back and watch that match though. Cause I want to see what you were talking about.
Cokeley Brothers: I think there's a clip of it on Twitter. Because, again, I didn't watch the duel, so i have I must have seen this on Twitter or Instagram, something like that. I'll see if I can find it. But back to the duel. 174, Levi Haines gets a tech fall over TJ Sherrill.
Cokeley Brothers: Now, 184, this match surprised me. Didn't shock you, I don't think, because I think you were expecting this. But it surprised me.
Reese: Don't fish back, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Reese: I was surprised by how easily he was able to get to Rocky's, Rocco's legs because he got to legs like three or four different times.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, so so Rocco Welsh wins this match 7-6,
Reese: And then he stole the match.
Cokeley Brothers: but I think he needed... Did he get two takedowns in the second period? Or a third period?
Reese: Rocco, yeah, he got two.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: He got one with like a minute left probably and then one with literally like 13 seconds off.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Reese: And both of them, both of them were front headlock go behind. Like,
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, and and and Fishback had riding time. Like...
Reese: yeah, right time secured.
Cokeley Brothers: So fish.
Reese: He had a stall he could give. i mean, the first, the first takedown he gave up, he gets in on the leg in a low single somehow.
Cokeley Brothers: Crazy.
Reese: somehow loses the leg completely and on all fours, easy go behind. Rocco climbs the arm and then just spins behind basically. And then, and then in the last 30 seconds, Rocco isn't even trying to like really shoot or like go behind him, but he is snapping fish back.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Reese: He's snapping his face into the mat.
Cokeley Brothers: to the ground. yeah I saw this.
Reese: Yeah. several foot Yeah. And it was like insane. And yeah, and finally, one like on the final one, he's just like, all right, I guess I'm just going to run behind him now.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: And that was the match.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. I mean, is is this like a, is this like a stock up for, for fish back? Is this a stock down for Rocco? And do like, what, what,
Reese: This is an investigation. This has what this is. This is investigate this match because that was, that was weird. That was a weird match to me.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Reese: It's just back.
Cokeley Brothers: Because like i was I was being offered the idea of like, well, if there's a team that is going to prepare their 184 pounder for Rocco Welsh better than anybody else, it's going to be the team that he used to wrestle for.
Reese: Maybe he didn't want to win. I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: But like, you know, I guess maybe they're like Rocco, you know, when he hand fights, because that's what he does a lot of. He really leaves this open. ah Maybe, i guess.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't know.
Reese: I think Fishback is really good, i like, from Space. And I think maybe that's, like, just something – that's a style matchup thing, maybe. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, this this is what ie this is what I need to work on this summer that I need to like kind of devote some some significant time to. I want something that is able to like take in a match and then give me the statistics on it.
Cokeley Brothers: You know, like who, how long of a match was somebody controlling the center of a mat? How many shots did they take? How many shots did they finish? Like those type of statistics, dude.
Reese: Did you, by the way, did you just quick, quick thing here?
Cokeley Brothers: Cause like, huh?
Reese: Did you ever look up or count the amount of times? i don't even remember what it was.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Between on trail and PJ, it was pretty even.
Reese: Yeah, it was even.
Cokeley Brothers: It was pretty, I think PJ, PJ had one or two more, but yeah.
Reese: they yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. But I was like, I was like this conversation. um This isn't, we're not getting anywhere here.
Reese: No, you must tell Ryan. You must tell Ryan. You must drive it. You're digging it, dig it back up. Bring it back.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay.
Reese: He'll hear He'll hear in the podcast.
Cokeley Brothers: We're bringing it back.
Reese: yeah All right.
Cokeley Brothers: We'll bring it back.
Reese: Does he listen?
Cokeley Brothers: He doesn't listen to this, none but like Rocco Welsh or not Rocco Welsh, Dylan Fishback and Alex Fakundo have got to have two of the lowest finishing percentages in the sport outside of like guys who literally just can't finish any shot.
Reese: No, he does.
Reese: Really?
Cokeley Brothers: Cause like Fakundo will spend, will spend five minutes of a match
Reese: Facundo gets in on light. I didn't even... know he got in on legs.
Cokeley Brothers: who
Reese: Facundo. I didn't even realize he could get in legs that much.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, that's all he does. He gets in on shots and he never finishes them. Ever.
Reese: Interesting.
Cokeley Brothers: It's crazy. And it's like it it makes total sense why he struggles against a guy like Chris Minto. Because I'll tell you what. Minto, you can get on at his legs. You are not going to finish.
Cokeley Brothers: You are not going to finish unless you are very clean. um Yeah. ah that's some That's some type of data that I would just love to have. Because like...
Reese: guys haveve gun so then Guys have gotten so good at that.
Cokeley Brothers: I mean, the only... What?
Reese: Like when a guy's in on the head inside single, you bury their head between your legs. Like you kind of just sit. Like guys gotten so good at that. Like it seems like you don't get a lot.
Reese: You don't get to them. I mean, even when guys do get to the waterfall toadstool position, they're not.
Cokeley Brothers: They seem like they're like I can't move this leg.
Reese: Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Weird. yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: yeah weird
Cokeley Brothers: brutal but that was 184 197 josh barr gets a major over luke geog and then 285 cole mirasola beats nick feldman so is it time to have a conversation about cole feldman
Reese: Cole Feldman.
Cokeley Brothers: is is he i think he's he's at least shown himself to be a guy who can place i don't think he's quite title threat
Cokeley Brothers: especially with some of the other results that we're seeing. I don't think he's ever going to beat a, uh, an AJ Ferrari and Isaac Trumbull, a younger Bastida. And at this point, I think a tag, a dolly.
Reese: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to think about that match. Nick Feldman is such a tough dude to like, he's such a tough like variable or whatever.
Cokeley Brothers: Some people, some people want to use this idea that I'm going to float out to you to explain both Ben Keeter and Nick Feldman's losses to call me or Sola that you just watched your entire team get annihilated.
Cokeley Brothers: And so you're pretty deflated.
Reese: Oh, it could be that like that.
Cokeley Brothers: You know,
Reese: That makes sense. And i mean, it's BJC, right? I'm assuming it was.
Cokeley Brothers: I think so.
Reese: Yeah. I could see that. And again, I mean, Feldman's like due for some weird matches and that was kind of a weird match. And Mirasol is someone I really just don't even know what to think. I definitely don't think, I guess I don't think he's, I'm like i'm with you. He's not a title contender, but I certainly think he can AA it, but.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: I think at Penn State, like, I mean, I don't know. I think Penn State's probably gotten him to as good as where he can be.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: oh
Cokeley Brothers: With his, with his pedigree of being an aspirin wrestler and being at Penn state, he'll find a way to get on the podium is my expectation.
Reese: Yeah.
Reese: yeah
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Okay. That's the duel 36 to five. Penn state, uh, continues their streak. Um, their, uh, reign of terror and dominance over this sport will continue for another hundred years.
Cokeley Brothers: And, uh, we will be lucky to get the scraps. They're like the Targaryens man to use a house of a game of Thrones reference. These, these, yep.
Reese: Are you watching that new show?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I am. And these M efforts have dragons and we can't kill them.
Reese: I heard it's really good.
Cokeley Brothers: Reese. Yeah, it's good. It's good. I had to do something. People, I watched a Game of the Thrones. ah Like, I guess we finished it up right before Christmas. So it took like, i don't know, however many months.
Cokeley Brothers: ah And I've never been like so, like I lost sleep over the ending.
Reese: So...
Cokeley Brothers: Like it just, it was, but couldn't, couldn't, couldn't. I couldn't live with it. Uh, and so I had to watch house of dragon and i'm watching the new, ah the new show just to kind of, yeah.
Reese: these I mean, would you say the new show is better than either one of them or is different?
Cokeley Brothers: Different, just different, just different.
Reese: Isn't there like more comedy and whatnot?
Cokeley Brothers: It's light heart, more lighthearted, more comedy.
Reese: One of my coworkers was like trying like hard trying to sell me on it.
Cokeley Brothers: It's fun. It's fun. That's how I phrase it. Now, I don't I don't think it's like, oh, like awesome, you know, but there's only four episodes of it out so far. So.
Reese: Okay. Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. OK, now that we've gotten our cinema out of the way, ah let's move on to the Iowa Michigan duel.
Cokeley Brothers: Iowa. so narrowly avoids a disastrous loss to Michigan wins 19 to 17. And it took, it took everybody doing their part, uh, to manage. Um,
Cokeley Brothers: let's start at where they started at one 41 Dylan Raggason gets a major over P Cale Peterson, known to see her Bailey. ah this is the biggest concern. The biggest element of like, man, what is Iowa going to look like is the fact that we don't see Nasir Bailey.
Cokeley Brothers: We don't see Angelo Ferrari. And obviously they lost in Dean. So
Reese: And we got Tom Ryan saying things like, oh, the spot's open. 141 is open. It is not – like, you know, I don't feel like I normally hear – you normally hear him say that.
Cokeley Brothers: Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom brands, Tom brands.
Reese: Tom Brands. Who would I say? Ryan?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Tom Brady?
Cokeley Brothers: Tom.
Reese: We got Tom Ryan talking about Tom Brands.
Cokeley Brothers: Tom brands.
Reese: God damn, bro. This is bad. I was like Tom Ryan. Yeah. Head coach at Iowa.
Cokeley Brothers: Well, well, Reese, maybe.
Reese: Tom brands. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I feel like I don't, you don't typically hear him. At least I don't, I don't can't think of the last time I've heard him talk about a weight like that, where you kind of feel you you go into the season, assuming that it's going to be Nasir Bailey. And now you got him saying,
Cokeley Brothers: What was Nasir's last match? Was it Minnesota?
Cokeley Brothers: Do you know?
Reese: Nasir?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: have no idea.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm going to pull it up real quick. Give me one second. One second. One second. It was Vance Vaughn Barr. Now, okay. So this...
Reese: I don't know.
Cokeley Brothers: this Yes. ah Like 30 seconds into the match, Nasir had to take injury time because one of his hands, I think his right hand was bothering the hell out of him.
Reese: I got smoke. What's up with his hands, man?
Cokeley Brothers: So yeah ah apparently this has been an issue for a while, but I think it got elevated from whatever it was like in in some manageable state to what it is now, which is, i mean, he's.
Reese: Do you think that's always been why he taped his hands? Do you think that's what it really boiled down to? it wasn't It wasn't actually for for an advantage.
Reese: It was just because he had hurt hands. Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: No, I want 100% think that, um uh, he's got busted up fingers, but also that he definitely gets a little bit of an extra grip with the tape.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: I think both can be true.
Reese: hit cause Hurt hands like that, that's a rare that's rare that i ever heard that that's ever a lingering issue.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude. I mean, i but I have a feeling with the, with the way people describe like how he's able to tilt that, like, are his hands are his tendons and his fingers just too strong to like keep themselves together does he is he tearing his tendons his grip strength is so strong i don't know don't know that'd be crazy but uh so raggason ragdolls kill peterson uh lachlan mcneil beats writer block who so okay hang on actually i need to look this up real quick because
Reese: know either.
Reese: Good thing that he beat Ryder Block because was ready to text to you guys. I was ready to text. was ready to be like, Lachlan Neal might be, just might be were like worst.
Reese: like you know most and heat You got the most improved. you got your most improved wrestler. Least or whatever. Whatever vice versa is.
Cokeley Brothers: Most regressed.
Reese: hear that us Most regressed wrestler. And I was ready to to give him back award until he beat Ryder Block.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. Well, do you know what he did today?
Reese: Lachlan McNeil?
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Reese: He wrestled today?
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. Michigan wrestled Wisconsin.
Reese: I knew that. um i've Obviously, I knew that.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. And he lost to Joe Zargo.
Reese: That's a fine loss. That's fine.
Cokeley Brothers: Who lost to Joey Butler? fellow Fellow Hoosier.
Reese: that and you'd say that You say that as if... I mean, he's a Hoosier, dude.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, that's what i'm talking about, baby.
Reese: They're tough. oh
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Cokeley Brothers: um
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. ah Wisconsin beat Michigan.
Reese: shit that's okay I mean it's tough all around for the Big Ten these days it's really like I mean it really like it feels like what could feel like um like competitiveness and like
Cokeley Brothers: Rough weekend for Michigan, dude. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, a lot of cannibalism happening right now.
Reese: high level, it feels like what's happening, you know, hit the hit the alarm, or like, you know, sound the alarm, like, we need to fix something immediately.
Reese: It feels that way because of one team specifically, or maybe two teams this year with Ohio State.
Cokeley Brothers: And that's. That's Iowa.
Reese: I'm
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, what what are you saying?
Reese: talking about Penn State. I'm saying because Penn State is so far ahead of every other team, it feels like
Cokeley Brothers: Oh...
Reese: All of these other teams, when they are losing to each other, it feels like they're competing out of really, it feels like they're, I don't know, inconsistent when when it's more just like competitiveness, maybe.
Cokeley Brothers: Right. Right. It's like, that's the way the sport's supposed to be.
Reese: Right.
Cokeley Brothers: Meanwhile, you have these Nittany lions, the bourgeoisie of the sport.
Reese: Exactly. who have just i don't I don't even know what to say anymore at this point.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: I'm over it. I'm over it.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude.
Reese: it's It's mainly because of the Nittany Lion pundits. It's not even the team. It's not the team's fault. It's these. It's because I hate thinking about, and I'm sorry.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah.
Reese: i'm you this I know this gets put out into the like internet, the infosphere. i just, bash, I don't like the thought of him being happy.
Reese: i hate it. And I hear – I listen to his podcast. to podcast. I do because I want to listen to – I consume wrestling media or whatever. And when I hear him say – he said something like, Iowa, you know, they they bounced back and they got a good win over whoever – they wrestled well against – oh, no, no.
Cokeley Brothers: Michigan.
Reese: He was talking about the Hawkeye Wrestling Club, that how they had a good tournament at the –
Cokeley Brothers: Oh yeah. They did have a good ranking series.
Reese: Yeah, there's a grab. He's like, and then they really needed that good.
Cokeley Brothers: Yep.
Reese: That was good for them. Because you know, they've been struggling. And in my mind, I'm just thinking,
Reese: think dude, shut up. Like you had anything to do with like you have anything to do with Nittany Lion, you know, whatever.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm
Reese: It's not they over there.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, like because... I recognize the fact that with all things, there an
Reese: I just wish I just we could just have some more, you know, like some more comp like, you know, I just wish it wasn't just the Penn State show.
Cokeley Brothers: end.
Cokeley Brothers: i recognize the fact that with all things they there is an end
Reese: Yeah, I mean, it's not like this is the first time, right? This isn't the first time we've had these.
Cokeley Brothers: and Maybe one day.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: maybe Maybe one day Indiana is better than Penn State.
Reese: Yeah, who knows? and the end of they they do they have
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe.
Reese: Are they one of the 15 teams with titles? They don't have a title, do they?
Cokeley Brothers: Yes, they do.
Reese: They do.
Cokeley Brothers: 1937 or something like that. Yeah.
Reese: All right. That's what I thought I, know.
Cokeley Brothers: We hold on to that because that's all we got.
Reese: It's just the whole, the Penn State thing, it went from really cool and impressive and awe-inspiring to it's just tired now. It's tired. Play it out.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. yeah So like i do, there is an element of, of the whole situation that my mind interprets and says, Kale Sanderson with what he is doing, which is being ah a coach and a, and a good coach because he's elevating his wrestlers to a, to a higher level.
Cokeley Brothers: Awesome work. And now as a sport, the other coaches have two options. elevate themselves to challenge that or get lost.
Cokeley Brothers: Some, some of them are getting lost because it's really hard. It's really hard to get to to elevate. You're say that high, you know, you're getting the recruits, you're getting the money, you're getting the development.
Reese: Yeah. I mean, I
Cokeley Brothers: What was left for us?
Reese: know. Yeah. I mean, at some point the the work is the recruiting thing that has to change. feel like more than anything.
Cokeley Brothers: It's not gonna though. It's not gonna.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, you you have you have so many.
Reese: mean,
Cokeley Brothers: You have... Connor Mirasol is losing eligibility this year. He could be on the podium.
Reese: yeah. Yeah. I think the, I think my, my opinion about what makes a team like what's made Penn state, like win all their titles, like the the, like biggest factor is the fact that they're back half of their lineup is like really, really, really good.
Reese: And I think that's what like you need more than anything is a really, really good one 65 through your heavy weight. I think like, here yeah, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, and they've always had that.
Reese: Because it's just easier to be consistent at those upper weights than it is at the lower weight.
Cokeley Brothers: It is 100%. one hundred percent
Reese: and
Cokeley Brothers: ah Indiana won it in 1932. And then they were runner-ups in 1940. So we weren't one-hit wonders. And we were runner-ups in 1934. So...
Reese: when was Indiana's like last, did do you have their whole like results or their whole like finishes pulled up or?
Cokeley Brothers: so
Reese: Oh, okay.
Cokeley Brothers: What are you looking for?
Reese: I was like, when was their last like top five finish?
Cokeley Brothers: Probably 1940.
Reese: Seriously?
Cokeley Brothers: Probably. I mean, maybe early two thousand s I don't know, dude. I'm not a historian, so you can't you can't ah lean on me for that.
Reese: I know from when I started paying attention, it was like 2010, 2009 ish. Like, you had like Wisconsin, Minnesota, Cornell. I just remember wiscon like Wisconsin was like the big one worked for me where like they were like really, really good.
Reese: And you know, they haven't been that level and and in a long time, but yeah, that was that was pretty cool when they were like top five, top four.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Right.
Reese: I miss that. I miss like dance in Wisconsin was that good.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Indiana, Indiana took eighth in 1990.
Reese: That was their highest finish in the last whatever.
Cokeley Brothers: So
Reese: Modern era.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm just kind of clicking, clicking through some results and that's what I'm finding.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: Uh, so yeah. Okay. Um,
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, Michigan, michigan Iowa. ah Cam Catrabone beats Jordan Williams.
Reese: Okay.
Cokeley Brothers: came Dude, 157 in the Big Ten is going to be a lot of fun. You have your Tier 1s. You have Entrell Taylor, PJ Duke, Brandon Cannon, and that's it.
Cokeley Brothers: ah But then you have your Tier 2, which is Cam Catrabone, Charlie Millard, Kanan Webster, who might be a Tier 1 guy. I mean, he was he was an exchange away from beating Entrell, which I mean, I guess a lot of people have been.
Reese: He's a terrible guy. Come on.
Cokeley Brothers: So...
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Yeah, 157 is going to be a lot of fun ah within the country and at one band a big 10.
Reese: For sure.
Cokeley Brothers: So that's awesome. um Cam Catrabone's right in there. I mean, he was super close to beating um Peter Duke, but then also he goes and loses to Luke Mechler.
Reese: You can't, you can't, you can't eat.
Cokeley Brothers: so ah Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess people just don't understand, which is fine.
Reese: Cut some meat for your little tweet
Cokeley Brothers: They they just don't know.
Reese: tweet. There's not high level minds like some of us.
Cokeley Brothers: Some people don't know that periodization is a thing.
Reese: Yeah. And that's where it separates.
Cokeley Brothers: i didn't know that's what it was called. but
Reese: That's what, yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: but ah But also, like I flat out i flat out watched ah watched Iowa do it to us, to Indiana in 2019.
Reese: What did it look like?
Cokeley Brothers: So like ah it looked like, oh my god, this Iowa team doesn't seem that good. like we We were like right there to win like three or four matches.
Reese: I see what you're saying.
Cokeley Brothers: And then we wrestled them at Big Tens and they paid the shit out of us.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah.
Reese: Yeah, yeah, yeah. i thought you were saying you want to practice like before the rule of thumb.
Cokeley Brothers: So, yeah. No.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: No. No, no, no, no, no. But, yes, Bo Mantonona beat Patrick Kennedy. Gabe Arnold beats Brock Mantonona. And, yeah, here's the deal. If we don't see Angelo Ferrari again for the rest of the season, that sucks.
Cokeley Brothers: But Gabe Arnold, he hasn't wrestled since Rocco.
Reese: Wait, you think that's possible?
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Where is he?
Reese: Something else may help you back.
Cokeley Brothers: I hope so. hope so. But if he's not, Gabe Arnold is great. Gabe Arnold is a great option.
Reese: That's a good win. He needed that win big time.
Reese: And that's the guy that's the guy to get the win over, Brock Manton.
Cokeley Brothers: dids Did he?
Reese: No, no.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, Brock Mantonona. I mean, he's also got a win over Silas Allred. So he's lost to McAnally and Fishback.
Reese: Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: And Wask.
Reese: You should, I mean, that's like a matchup. Like I really can't ever see Brock Manthino debating Gabe Arnold because he's just too, you know, he lets it fly.
Cokeley Brothers: Flimsy.
Reese: And yeah, Gabe will capitalize.
Cokeley Brothers: It's too flimsy. ah Harvey Ludington beats Hayden Walters. that's ah that That is the win. That is the win to take away from this duel for Iowa.
Cokeley Brothers: And then take a dolly. Majors Ben Keeter.
Reese: Yeah, he body locked him. He bodied him. Right. I mean, I'm like thinking Ben Keeter is obviously not right. That's where I'm at.
Cokeley Brothers: yeah Dude, I have said this since it was announced last year.
Reese: yes
Cokeley Brothers: hip surgery in March, you are not going to be okay. The next season you like, you can wrestle.
Cokeley Brothers: You're not going to be the same guy. It's like, yeah, but he's going into football the next year.
Reese: What kind of hip surgery did he have?
Reese: You have any idea?
Cokeley Brothers: That's a good question.
Reese: Did you get the Ben Ashburn thing?
Cokeley Brothers: That's a good question. Uh, I don't think then, didn't Ben get a hip replacement.
Reese: Did you get anything replaced?
Reese: Yeah, he did.
Cokeley Brothers: I don't think he got, I'm thinking it was like a torn labrum or something like that.
Reese: Hmm.
Cokeley Brothers: ah Let's take a look here. Ben Keeter won't play for the Iowa football team. who but blah bla Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. An arthroscopic hip surgery that will require an extensive recovery process.
Reese: That's like they go in there and like clean it or something.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, no idea. But I think, yeah, scoping is that.
Cokeley Brothers: arthroscopic, minimally invasive outpatient surgical procedure used to diagnose and repair joint damage.
Reese: Like clean the not right.
Cokeley Brothers: All right. So his hip was hurting him and he needed it to feel better. That's what we know.
Cokeley Brothers: But he just, he just doesn't, he doesn't look right. He doesn't look like, Yeah, he's not the Ben Keeter that you could have in the sport. And he's moving on to football after this.
Cokeley Brothers: So this e next year, he's going back to football.
Reese: What you mean? He's done for good.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.
Reese: He's no more wrestling.
Cokeley Brothers: ah could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure. I don't think I made that up. But maybe I misunderstood something.
Reese: Yeah, I have no, I don't know. i have no idea.
Cokeley Brothers: I'm not sure, but Dean Peterson beats Diego Sotelo in some victory and Drake. All it gets a tech fall over gauge, but tarot to win the duel.
Reese: Poor Gage.
Cokeley Brothers: shaking your head at Dean?
Reese: He had nothing. Oh, and I said poor Gage Botero.
Cokeley Brothers: Huh?
Reese: He had nothing. had nothing.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Reese: There's, there there's like, is there, I feel like, is there another Botero kid?
Cokeley Brothers: No kidding.
Reese: there a Gage Botero?
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe.
Reese: I don't know. It's just a name you saw a lot in high school.
Cokeley Brothers: Maybe.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah, I'm familiar with the name.
Reese: Well,
Cokeley Brothers: Okay, Reese, what's left?
Reese: Nothing much really. are
Cokeley Brothers: we're we're at We're at about an hour.
Reese: the lady
Cokeley Brothers: First dates?
Reese: The Lady Thunder qualified four girls, five, four girls.
Cokeley Brothers: for states
Reese: it's Yeah, our best wrestler, Gianna Puala, literally Wednesday, Wednesday and night practice. when We're running sprints. We never run sprints, whatever. we were running sprints and she breaks her foot.
Reese: Yeah, I know. It's tough.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, sprints like this close to the postseason.
Reese: I know, dude. I know. i don't want you to...
Cokeley Brothers: Hey, you know what? While we're talking about high school wrestling, shout out to Kalil White from Saraland, Alabama, ah first state champion in Mobile County history, reportedly.
Reese: Kal-El?
Cokeley Brothers: Mount Olympus Wrestling Club wrestler.
Reese: I mean, the amount of Kal-El's... There are so many Kal-Ls these days, it feels like. And Jor-Ls.
Cokeley Brothers: ah He's the only one that I know of.
Reese: I just keep seeing them, man. I keep seeing them in tournaments and whatnot. I don't know. Just getting nerdier and nerdier, this this country.
Cokeley Brothers: You would know more than than I would.
Reese: I'm
Cokeley Brothers: All right.
Reese: just kidding.
Cokeley Brothers: Oh, there's a Matthew Botello from North Carolina.
Cokeley Brothers: Similar to Botero.
Reese: That's true.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. you were You were looking at me like, oh, okay. Dude, wait. Do they have this backwards? Who won between Northern Illinois and and Northwestern?
Cokeley Brothers: I'm pretty sure Northern Illinois did. Flow, come on.
Cokeley Brothers: Dude, sometimes sometimes they're... they're ah Yeah, Northern Illinois beat Northwestern. 28 to 9.
Reese: Nice. Whoa, shit.
Cokeley Brothers: And flow has it backwards flow has it backwards, which.
Reese: What were Northwestern, dude? Their athletics are drowning. Yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Just drowning and and it's tragic to see, but flow, get your, get your box scores together, man. Come on.
Reese: Dude, I saw – I was hearing this pod, Josh Pate, this football guy, he was talking about Northwestern's football schedule this year.
Cokeley Brothers: Um,
Reese: Brutal. Brutal. Just like nightmarish.
Cokeley Brothers: like tough.
Reese: Yeah, like just disgusting.
Cokeley Brothers: where where are Where are the Hoosiers next year?
Reese: The Hoosiers are like week three for them, i think, or four.
Cokeley Brothers: No, not for Northwestern, just nationally.
Reese: extensive
Cokeley Brothers: Like, are they?
Reese: are you saying Are you asking if they're like – if it's coming up with rankings?
Cokeley Brothers: Well, don't don't don't they like drop new rankings like the moment that the national championship is done?
Reese: Like two-year-old rankings?
Reese: I think they they do have like portal and recruit rankings. Indiana's portal, don't remember what their portal rankings are.
Cokeley Brothers: 2027 football rankings. ah Indiana is not. They're twenty second so yeah
Reese: Man, there's Northwestern, but they got Oregon, Iowa, and Ohio State. Three, they yeah they're at Oregon. Iowa at home, and then at Ohio State.
Reese: That's back-to-back-to-back. And they played Indiana and then Penn State earlier. Just that stuff.
Cokeley Brothers: They're in trouble. They are in trouble.
Reese: That's true. All right.
Cokeley Brothers: oh Okay, folks. We're at an hour.
Reese: We did it.
Cokeley Brothers: Got any closing words, Reese?
Reese: No, I don't.
Cokeley Brothers: Okay. ah Look, folks.
Reese: Goodbye.
Cokeley Brothers: The college wrestling season is almost over. And i think there's one thing we actually haven't talked about.
Reese: how low the subscriber count is.
Cokeley Brothers: We're going to lose... we're going to lose, uh, we're going to lose a wrestling program at the end of this year.
Reese: shit. You're
Reese: getting heavy.
Cokeley Brothers: CSUB.
Reese: Oh yeah.
Cokeley Brothers: Um, there's an effort to save the program. And so if you have time, money, any resources to devote to it, do that. Uh, but more importantly, or just as importantly, if you have a program that you like,
Cokeley Brothers: If you have a team that you support, whether it's Division 1 through Division 3, NAI, high school, club, whatever, do what you can. Go to the duels, support the team, talk about them, bring a friend, introduce people to the sport if you enjoy it.
Reese: Make a donation and the barn session will match that donation.
Cokeley Brothers: Even if it's...
Cokeley Brothers: it No. Even if it's $5,
Cokeley Brothers: Even if it's $5.
Reese: can match that.
Cokeley Brothers: Even if it's $5. We can match one $5 donation. We can't match $105 donations.
Reese: We'll match the first $5 donation. The first one will match it.
Cokeley Brothers: Yeah. Okay. All right. Have a good one. Goodbye.
