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Cy-Hawk Recap + RAF03 Recap - Session 96
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We cover all the action that went down in the Iowa v Iowa State dual. The historical dual that snapped a 20 year streak had several notable matches. We then move on to the action-packed Real American Freestyle card that went down this weekend.
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Introduction and Theme of Wrestling Discussions
00:00:05
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back, everybody, to the barn session. We're back. We've got some wrestling to talk about.
00:00:14
Ryne
Like we never left.
00:00:15
Cokeley Brothers
And I think BK is bk is ready. so ah
00:00:19
Reese
There wasn't even that much wrestling.
Cyhawk Duel Analysis and Highlights
00:00:22
Cokeley Brothers
No, but the wrestling that went down was pretty exciting to me, at least. um And I want to talk about I want to start off with what happened most recently, the Cyhawk duel.
00:00:34
Cokeley Brothers
Tell me your thoughts.
00:00:38
Reese
You knew it was going to happen eventually.
00:00:38
Ryne
I thought the clowns the clowns looked the clones looked really good, and the Hawkeyes did not look so good.
00:00:46
Reese
Sackhones looked real nice. Real nice.
00:00:48
Cokeley Brothers
I feel like... I think...
00:00:49
Reese
Attacking. MJ Guyton looked really good, bro. but how did He looked like he's jumped levels.
00:00:57
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:00:58
Reese
He buckled down in that match.
00:01:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but...
00:01:00
Reese
I've just never seen his defense that good.
00:01:02
Ryne
i think it was i think it was just a little bit of a Cyclone magic.
00:01:08
Reese
What do you mean? He looked good, dude.
00:01:11
Cokeley Brothers
i There were... I think we can get into some of the wait-by-wait stuff, but like, the overall dual experience, it felt like you saw lots of little things happen that we're going to be the reason ultimately why Iowa one, you see Ben Keeter get out of, uh, get, get an escape and, and keep it to a decision in the last moment.
Iowa's Wrestling Strategy and Individual Matches
00:01:32
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Steve O'Pool and have Dean Peterson dead to rights and Peterson finds a way to win that match.
00:01:37
Cokeley Brothers
Um, that Kyle and over erases the bonus point wins by getting a tech fall of his own. Um, Yeah, I mean, it felt like somehow iowa's Iowa was going to win it in typical Iowa fashion, ah but Iowa State found a way to to shut the door.
00:01:52
Ryne
Iowa State just, they kept, they kept, a you know, they won some key matches that they weren't supposed to win. You know what I mean?
00:02:02
Cokeley Brothers
Right, and I think their good guys looked really good. And, huh?
00:02:09
Reese
Except for one.
00:02:12
Cokeley Brothers
Except for one.
00:02:15
Reese
Are you talking about Iowa?
00:02:17
Ryne
Yeah.
00:02:17
Cokeley Brothers
Iowa State.
00:02:19
Reese
Iowa State. Yeah, yeah. Except for one.
00:02:21
Cokeley Brothers
Which one didn't look good?
00:02:22
Reese
de niro
00:02:24
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I don't think Panera's not going to be their starter.
00:02:27
Reese
I'm saying you said they're good guys and he's the number two guy. He was the number two guy during that match. And why wouldn't he be their starter?
00:02:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:02:35
Reese
If he wasn't their starter, why would they wrestle him?
00:02:37
Cokeley Brothers
he lost a he lost a he lost to Frost and both Marissa lost, but Frost was sick.
00:02:39
Ryne
Frost beat him and some wrestle-offs. And then I guess...
00:02:43
Reese
why wouldn't they wrestle him?
00:02:44
Cokeley Brothers
He's sick.
00:02:46
Reese
He's sick.
00:02:47
Cokeley Brothers
That's what was told.
00:02:48
Ryne
that's what That's what Dresser said.
00:02:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:02:49
Ryne
He said he didn't wrestle due to illness.
00:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
Said that his brother had it earlier and then he gave it to him and here we are. And I
Heavyweight Wrestling and Title Contenders
00:03:00
Cokeley Brothers
think definitely after that match, you want to say Frost gives ah frost gives a better look than that.
00:03:06
Cokeley Brothers
we we can Let's start getting into the into the the actual matches.
00:03:07
Reese
Oh, yeah.
00:03:10
Cokeley Brothers
Let's start at 285.
00:03:13
Cokeley Brothers
Ben Keeter, I'm a little worried about. and he's probably going to be fine.
00:03:17
Ryne
He's little banged up.
00:03:19
Cokeley Brothers
I think he's... Yeah. And I think he's still going to find a way to finish on the podium. But Yonger Bastida looks like a title contender.
00:03:25
Ryne
ah Yeah, of course.
00:03:27
Cokeley Brothers
I mean...
00:03:28
Ryne
looks He looked like won a couple years ago, too.
00:03:28
Cokeley Brothers
Like, really good.
00:03:32
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah. Yeah. I mean... Right.
00:03:35
Ryne
So he's I mean, we know he's good.
00:03:35
Reese
What about you?
00:03:37
Ryne
He's been he was my preseason pick to win it. and I'm sticking with it.
00:03:41
Cokeley Brothers
You should. I mean, i don't think anybody's looked... as good as him. Now it does make me wonder like his offense was, was very crisp.
00:03:49
Ryne
He did almost lose to Braxton Amos.
00:03:52
Cokeley Brothers
He almost lost a Braxton Amos, but in, in that match against Keeter, his offense looked crisp. He moved, moves better than pretty much any other heavyweight in the field right now. Uh, but he had that close match with Braxton Amos. So that makes me wonder how good is Braxton Amos.
00:04:09
Cokeley Brothers
It's a, it's a good question to me.
00:04:10
Ryne
He definitely put the size on, I'll say that.
00:04:13
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:04:16
Ryne
He's a big boy now.
00:04:18
Cokeley Brothers
But I think, I mean, yeah, Keter's hurt and it's obvious that people were ready for like, like a step up from Ben Keter. And I just didn't really know how that was going to happen whenever he's getting through hip surgery and he's still got time.
00:04:32
Reese
Thank
00:04:33
Cokeley Brothers
It's not March yet. So he's can, he can still find a way to feel even better, but that's generally not how people trend throughout the season.
CKLV Tournament Teams and Wrestlers
00:04:40
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:04:42
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, but yeah, it, Younger got three takedowns, even though he gave up the escape at the very end to to lose the major. Just set the tone for the duel.
00:04:56
Cokeley Brothers
And yeah, he looks good. i I put him up there with Feldman and Ferrari. And I mean, I guess maybe Trumbull if he ends up being a name eventually.
00:05:11
Cokeley Brothers
But I guess maybe Amos. Who knows?
00:05:16
Cokeley Brothers
All right, 125.
00:05:16
Ryne
Ohio is Ohio State at the CKLV No It's down this year That
00:05:21
Reese
Dang.
00:05:21
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:05:21
Reese
Is
00:05:23
Cokeley Brothers
No. The CKLV is a little bit of a skeleton crew this year.
00:05:29
Reese
that because of the NDI?
00:05:31
Cokeley Brothers
well Well, I mean, it's to be expected from national duels.
00:05:31
Ryne
stinks they're killing the killing the sport I love
00:05:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:05:37
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it's it sucks to see tournaments.
00:05:40
Reese
ah Who else is not going?
00:05:40
Ryne
I Love tournaments
00:05:42
Reese
Oh.
00:05:44
Cokeley Brothers
Oklahoma State isn't going. um
00:05:46
Ryne
Nebraska.
00:05:47
Reese
Oh.
00:05:47
Cokeley Brothers
Nebraska is not going here. I've got the college wrestling report put together a list of all the notable names that are starters.
00:05:57
Reese
For now, are they still going
00:05:59
Cokeley Brothers
Cornell still goes. So to me, Virginia Tech, Iowa State, um just Northern Illinois, Oregon State, West Virginia, Princeton, Cornell, um Stanford.
00:06:01
Reese
going?
00:06:09
Ryne
It's still a good field.
00:06:12
Cokeley Brothers
Still a good, still the best regular season tournament.
00:06:15
Reese
No Michigan's?
00:06:16
Cokeley Brothers
Cal Poly will be there. Michigan. that doesn't no Michigan to be there. has Has Ragason not wrestled yet this year? don't think he has.
00:06:30
Cokeley Brothers
Anyway, back to the Cyhawk. 125. There's not...
00:06:38
Reese
I didn't see that much.
00:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
I mean... So, Steve O'Poulin was kind of putting...
00:06:42
Ryne
What?
00:06:44
Cokeley Brothers
kind of pressing the issue of ah creating an exchange. But nothing nothing really super committed until towards the very end of the match, Steve O'Pooling gets in on a a shot that he's he's got Dean Peterson dead to rights.
00:06:59
Cokeley Brothers
And
125-Pound Class Strategy and Insights
00:07:00
Cokeley Brothers
for the second match against, I think it's an All-American from last year, Dean Peterson finds a way to snatch victory from the Jaws of Defeat. And I think that's sort of a testimony or a testament to...
00:07:13
Cokeley Brothers
what kind of wrestling we should expect from Dean Peterson this year. I think that's a good sign for the Hawks.
00:07:20
Reese
What do you mean? Like, so like counters? Yeah.
00:07:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So, uh, Poulin was, had Peterson on a head inside shot is what Poulin took. And then he had him knocked off to his hip, bottom leg hooked and popped his head out.
00:07:36
Cokeley Brothers
And somehow Peterson and who held onto the far ankle and like rolled him through to get his hips up on top and
00:07:42
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:07:42
Cokeley Brothers
And then, you know, he's in a, he's in a leg hook cross face situation. Very, I didn't, I really did not understand how Peterson was able to pull it off in that position, but I rewatched it ah earlier today and I was like, yeah, that's, that's pretty miraculous stuff. Now, if you're an Iowa fan, you probably want to see more fundamental standard, get a shot, get a takedown from Dean Peterson, but he's showing He's fighting. He's not going quit in every single position.
00:08:14
Cokeley Brothers
That means something, especially in a dual situation.
00:08:20
Reese
he's ah He's actually ah ts a transfer that's actually showing heart.
00:08:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:32
Ryne
Are you saying there are other transfers who are not showing hard race?
00:08:33
Cokeley Brothers
I mean.
00:08:36
Reese
Yeah, I am. on that On that very team...
00:08:43
Ryne
We'll let you get to it race here in a minute.
00:08:45
Cokeley Brothers
Well, yeah, let's get...
00:08:46
Reese
Go, but wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:08:46
Ryne
Right after we just have right after we discussed my least favorite match of this whole duel.
00:08:48
Cokeley Brothers
Let's handle one...
00:08:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. very Very interesting match at 133 here. Trey Caiala, it felt like he was in control of this match. He felt like the more dangerous wrestler in most of the positions for the first two periods of the match.
00:09:08
Cokeley Brothers
And then i don't know what changed. or It might have even been before the end of the second period, but Frost... Something I was worried about with him was the weight cut and his, you know, the first time being down at one 33, how was he going to look?
00:09:25
Cokeley Brothers
And he looked good. He looked healthy.
00:09:26
Ryne
looks fantastic.
00:09:27
Cokeley Brothers
He looked ready. he wrestled the whole match. He got to his shots. He scored. Um, yeah, it was interesting to see Ayala kind of falter towards the end of that match.
00:09:41
Ryne
It's in a slump.
00:09:43
Cokeley Brothers
That's what happens.
00:09:44
Reese
So you think, like, Drake, I don't know, like, you don't think Evan just kind of I don't know.
00:09:44
Cokeley Brothers
So,
133-Pound Class Challenges and Performances
00:09:54
Reese
I don't know how to say it. I feel like you don't think Evan stepped up in that third period?
00:10:00
Cokeley Brothers
what do you mean i stepped up?
00:10:02
Reese
Just stepped up his game that third period, ramped it up, started front attacking him.
00:10:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. I, I guess maybe i'm I'm wondering like what got him so like what got him so comfortable, um, taking those shots because it really felt like with the way I was wrestling anytime Frost took an effort towards taking a shot, making it, making a, taking a risk.
00:10:26
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Ayala was ready to put him in an uncomfortable and a dangerous position. And Frost just pulled the trigger anyway in the third period and it paid off. So, yeah.
00:10:37
Cokeley Brothers
And that that was, I mean, that's a huge match. Obviously, every single match in this duel had big time implications for the result of the duel.
00:10:48
Cokeley Brothers
But that was probably a ah ah major dagger for the Hawkeye faithful.
00:10:54
Ryne
Yes.
00:10:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. so a alwaysas got i mean So the Iowa schedule is they have...
00:11:02
Reese
i I think that's a match. Sorry, i think I think that's a match that will be all it'll be ah a coin flip eternally.
00:11:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, probably.
00:11:12
Ryne
Eternally?
00:11:13
Reese
Yes. Until Frost, know, is no.
00:11:15
Cokeley Brothers
for the rest They're going to wrestle for the rest of time, Ryan. and It'll always be 50-50.
00:11:20
Reese
Yeah.
00:11:22
Ryne
no
00:11:22
Reese
Unfortunate for them, but it is what the gods want.
00:11:23
Cokeley Brothers
We're going to put them in an hourglass. and They're just going to have to... wrestle
00:11:28
Ryne
It's going to be a bad year for Iowa.
00:11:30
Reese
I didn't.
00:11:33
Cokeley Brothers
Did you see what Ben Askren tweeted?
00:11:33
Reese
Yeah.
00:11:36
Ryne
Silly Ben Askren.
00:11:38
Cokeley Brothers
He said, and he said, after watching Iowa lose for the first time in 20 years to Iowa state, I'm officially giving, offering my services to the Hawkeyes, something about them returning their style.
00:11:47
Reese
yes
00:11:49
Cokeley Brothers
And it was interesting because he was describing their style as what Iowa Hawkeye wrestling is. And that is not how Ben Askren wrestles at all.
00:11:58
Ryne
No.
00:11:58
Cokeley Brothers
So it was very interesting to hear that.
00:12:00
Reese
Many producers, athletes. That wrestle like that.
00:12:05
Ryne
Aiden Sinclair.
00:12:05
Cokeley Brothers
guess, yeah.
Wrestling Matches and Strategic Decisions
00:12:08
Ryne
Mitchell Messenbrink.
00:12:08
Cokeley Brothers
That's true. Yeah.
00:12:11
Reese
Paka Kekheisen.
00:12:13
Ryne
Paka Kek Eisen.
00:12:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So what do I know? I mean, obviously, iowa would benefit from the help of Ben Askren, but I don't know if that comes with strings.
00:12:23
Ryne
Anyone would benefit. Anyone would benefit with with the help of Ben Askren.
00:12:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:12:28
Ryne
Anyone.
00:12:31
Ryne
Except maybe not Penn State.
00:12:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:12:33
Ryne
Penn State might have it figured out.
00:12:34
Reese
Maybe.
00:12:36
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Okay, 141. Anthony
00:12:43
Cokeley Brothers
BTA. Over Bailey.
00:12:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Now, in Nasir Bailey's defense... He has wrestled Jesse Mendez,
00:13:03
Cokeley Brothers
Sergio Vega and Anthony Etchimendia. So one, three and four at this point.
00:13:13
Ryne
Yeah, but what happened to is i'm to is his top game?
00:13:13
Cokeley Brothers
That's
00:13:18
Ryne
his tilt His tilt game?
00:13:18
Cokeley Brothers
yeah.
00:13:20
Ryne
What happened?
00:13:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's that's a good question.
00:13:22
Ryne
It's gone.
00:13:24
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I think a thing that somebody mentioned is the fact that he is not a 41-pounder.
00:13:29
Reese
Yeah, I think that's a big deal.
00:13:33
Cokeley Brothers
He doesn't look bulked up.
00:13:33
Ryne
think he's going to go back to back down to 33 after this year? Why didn't they just redshirt him then?
00:13:38
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know, dude.
00:13:40
Reese
Why, indeed. Why wouldn't you redshirt him?
00:13:43
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know.
00:13:44
Reese
You got it. they they they have They have to have another guy, right? Or do they not?
00:13:49
Cokeley Brothers
Like, Voinovich could work down.
00:13:49
Ryne
Kel Peterson could wrestle 41.
00:13:53
Reese
Anderson.
00:13:53
Ryne
No. Kel Peterson.
00:13:56
Cokeley Brothers
Kel Peterson, probably a better option. They have options. um But yeah, I mean, it looks tough for him at 41. um Because, like, Echemendia didn't seem to have any issue just powering through whatever position he was in.
00:14:13
Cokeley Brothers
But, yeah, again, in Nasir Bailey's defense, he's lost to three of the top four. And um that's a tough set.
00:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
And he honestly, he had.
00:14:24
Ryne
OT, pin, and major.
00:14:29
Cokeley Brothers
He didn't get me got tech, I think, by Mendez.
00:14:32
Ryne
Oh.
00:14:32
Reese
tech fall.
00:14:33
Cokeley Brothers
Still, i mean, tech pin.
00:14:34
Ryne
thought it was... thought you got tech pinned, honestly.
00:14:37
Cokeley Brothers
You know, um but.
00:14:39
Reese
Almost got stalled out.
00:14:40
Ryne
Whatever.
00:14:41
Cokeley Brothers
He did have he had Sergio Vega dead rights to be able to. I mean, kind of in in a normal situation, maybe not against Sergio Vega.
00:14:47
Ryne
You never have Sergio dead the rights. Kid might win it this year.
00:14:53
Reese
He is not. Dude, I just don't see a world where he's beating Jesse Mendez. don't
00:14:59
Cokeley Brothers
He might not have to.
00:14:59
Ryne
He's funky.
00:15:01
Reese
have to.
00:15:03
Ryne
What if Hardy beats Mendez and then he beats Hardy in the finals?
00:15:05
Cokeley Brothers
Would have.
00:15:06
Reese
i mean, Hardy would have to... Hardy's only guy I feel like that can do it.
00:15:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, ah I'm like ready to. I'm ready to to discount the all star match that that Mendes had but against Echamendia.
00:15:21
Reese
Why?
00:15:22
Cokeley Brothers
um I don't know. There's like no real justification for it. I just want to. But there's probably no...
00:15:28
Reese
i mean, that match was not close.
00:15:31
Cokeley Brothers
No. No. But yeah, Etchimedia looked good in this match. He's a top four guy for sure. I don't know if he's going be able beat any like Vega, Hardy. and
00:15:42
Reese
I think he can beat anybody but Jesse Mendes. That's what I think.
00:15:45
Cokeley Brothers
So it's...
00:15:45
Reese
I think Brock will be hard, too.
00:15:46
Cokeley Brothers
it's you're Yeah.
00:15:47
Reese
would be tough matchup for him.
00:15:50
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, ah i think you i think I think with how tricky Vega is, it it'd be hard for him to find a way.
00:15:55
Reese
Probably probably that as well.
00:15:57
Ryne
When is the Oklahoma State-Iowa State duel?
00:15:57
Cokeley Brothers
I just think.
00:16:01
Ryne
Chat.
00:16:03
Cokeley Brothers
Is that happening?
00:16:04
Reese
Yeah, it's usually like February, like last week of the regular season.
00:16:08
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, it's a yeah, it's a, it's a big 12 duel, but I don't know.
00:16:13
Reese
Not a big tool.
00:16:14
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:16:15
Ryne
Yeah, yes, Big 12.
00:16:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, it is Reese.
00:16:18
Reese
Oh, did you say Iowa State?
00:16:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:16:20
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:16:20
Reese
ah thought said Iowa.
00:16:22
Ryne
No. Okie State-Iowa State. When is that duel?
00:16:25
Cokeley Brothers
Oklahoma State wrestles Iowa State on February 1st. Oklahoma State wrestles Iowa February 22nd. Look at you, Reese. Look at
00:16:34
Ryne
Bookends of February.
00:16:37
Cokeley Brothers
Bookending the best month of the year. Isn't that right, Reese?
00:16:40
Reese
Yeah, February is number one.
00:16:42
Cokeley Brothers
Number one.
00:16:43
Ryne
I always feel sad in February.
00:16:44
Reese
Black History Month.
00:16:48
Cokeley Brothers
You always feel what?
00:16:49
Ryne
Sad. Because it's so cold.
00:16:50
Cokeley Brothers
Why?
00:16:51
Reese
Why?
00:16:53
Cokeley Brothers
No. No.
00:16:53
Reese
But it's the last cold month.
00:16:56
Ryne
Yeah, but it's the coldest.
00:16:56
Reese
Like, mostly. It's not the coldest. January is the coldest.
00:17:01
Ryne
Oh. I think February gets pretty cold.
00:17:02
Cokeley Brothers
the night is always darkest before the dawn
00:17:04
Reese
January is cold and dark and filled with early mornings. Early dark mornings.
00:17:16
Ryne
He's talking your month, Sammy.
00:17:17
Cokeley Brothers
alright yeah i I love it I love it once yeah yes I love January
00:17:18
Ryne
That's your month. You don't let him talk about your month that way.
00:17:22
Reese
Do you like January, Sammy? Do you even like January?
00:17:26
Cokeley Brothers
Every single day of it.
00:17:27
Reese
I didn't know that.
00:17:28
Ryne
Yeah, well.
00:17:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:17:30
Reese
Could be my least favorite month.
00:17:32
Ryne
Put your two states together. It couldn't even do half the power that June does.
00:17:38
Reese
Yeah, we're not born in states, buddy.
Dual Meet Outcomes and Athlete Improvements
00:17:45
Cokeley Brothers
Let's get, let's get a move on to one 49. Um, have,
00:17:51
Reese
June sucks.
00:17:53
Cokeley Brothers
i have
00:17:56
Cokeley Brothers
I have a problem with this match.
00:17:56
Ryne
Reese, you love June.
00:17:58
Reese
July is better. May is better.
00:18:01
Ryne
Oh. oh
00:18:05
Cokeley Brothers
I have a problem with this match at 1.49.
00:18:06
Ryne
Oh. 49? Why?
00:18:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Did you guys watch it?
00:18:11
Reese
Oh yeah.
00:18:11
Ryne
I mean, yeah, it was to it was it was exactly what you thought you were going to get.
00:18:14
Cokeley Brothers
you couldve You could have slept through it.
00:18:16
Ryne
Yeah. I mean, what did you think was going to happen? I knew that match was going to tiebreakers before the first whistle.
00:18:22
Cokeley Brothers
it i
00:18:23
Reese
ja is doing You just hope that Pinero will at least get a lead. At least get the lead, man. Get up one takedown and then then do what you do normally.
00:18:35
Cokeley Brothers
but it's not even just on Pinero. mean, what did Ryder block try and do?
00:18:40
Reese
Yeah, Ryder Block did what he needed. You they don't shoot on you don't want to shoot on Pinero unless you're like Shane Van Ness or somebody who is confident that that you're going to get to the leg it like eventually.
00:18:43
Ryne
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:54
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. it Neither guy took a, took a serious committed offensive attempt, except for the body lock that Pinero got to. Um, It sucked to watch.
00:19:06
Cokeley Brothers
It made total sense that it went to tiebreakers.
00:19:06
Reese
you
00:19:11
Cokeley Brothers
With that being said, i understand Block's position within his season, within the year. He's getting wins under his belt, gaining that confidence, getting traction.
00:19:27
Cokeley Brothers
Does it look better by March?
00:19:31
Ryne
I think so. I think he's only getting better.
00:19:34
Reese
What is he at?
00:19:34
Cokeley Brothers
I hope so.
00:19:35
Reese
Is this his third year or second year? Okay.
00:19:40
Ryne
sophomore year.
00:19:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:19:41
Ryne
So it's third.
00:19:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Yep. Yeah. And he looks, he he's definitely much, much better and more capable and healthier at 149 than he was at 141 last year.
00:19:55
Cokeley Brothers
And yeah.
00:19:55
Reese
He looks big.
00:19:58
Cokeley Brothers
And Iowa should be happy with what they have 149, Now, i think
00:20:07
Ryne
He's much better at 49 than he is at 41. That's for sure.
00:20:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. 157. Iowa probably has a right to be upset.
00:20:19
Reese
I mean, dude, why are you even using him at this point?
00:20:25
Cokeley Brothers
You know, that's a good point.
00:20:29
Cokeley Brothers
i'll I don't know.
00:20:30
Reese
It's like the same thing with Cooper Flynn last year. him.
00:20:34
Cokeley Brothers
Bench him. don't
00:20:38
Cokeley Brothers
i i don't I don't really know what happened in that match because Jordan Williams might've hit his head, but also just
00:20:48
Ryne
No, no, he just broke.
00:20:52
Cokeley Brothers
dude, the way he gave up that takedown near the out of bounds or near the edge of the mat.
00:20:58
Ryne
Broke.
00:20:59
Cokeley Brothers
This is crazy. was crazy to see happen.
00:21:00
Ryne
He broke. He broke.
00:21:02
Reese
What happened? I didn't see it.
00:21:04
Cokeley Brothers
He... Like, Zerbin circled back in from the out-of-bounds line and like grabbed his ankle, and Jordan just like kind of started walking out-of-bounds and then just fell to his knees and gave up the takedown.
00:21:14
Ryne
fell to his knees.
00:21:17
Cokeley Brothers
Like, made no concerted effort to not give up the takedown.
00:21:17
Reese
I gotta to see this.
00:21:20
Ryne
Yeah.
00:21:21
Cokeley Brothers
It was bizarre.
00:21:22
Reese
Did you post it on Twitter?
00:21:22
Ryne
you should You should have seen the look on his face too.
00:21:25
Cokeley Brothers
No, I didn't post it.
00:21:25
Ryne
It was just like...
00:21:26
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, the whole duel is on YouTube. People record the whole thing and load it up there.
00:21:28
Reese
Yeah.
00:21:33
Cokeley Brothers
But Vinny Zerbin...
00:21:35
Ryne
look good
00:21:35
Reese
He's good.
00:21:36
Cokeley Brothers
yeah While not all of his stuff...
00:21:38
Reese
lika He's ah interchangeable. Him and Brandon Cannon. They like look the same.
00:21:44
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm.
00:21:44
Reese
They wrestle the same.
00:21:46
Cokeley Brothers
Kind of. Serban's a little bit more wacky, a little bit more wild. ah
00:21:52
Reese
Wacky.
00:21:53
Cokeley Brothers
He... Yeah, I mean... He definitely takes an unconventional approach to a lot of positions that he wrestles. I'm just...
00:22:03
Cokeley Brothers
You know, if people want to beat him, they got to take clean, fundamental, quick shots straight to the finish. The top at 157 are able to do that. So, I mean, he's probably going to be an All-American again this year. I don't see him being any more than that, though.
00:22:21
Ryne
You don't you don't think he could go on a run?
00:22:21
Reese
Vinny?
00:22:25
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:22:26
Ryne
He seems like the kind of guy who could go on a run make the finals this senior year
00:22:30
Reese
You think he can beat PJ Duke?
00:22:32
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:22:36
Ryne
Yes Yes, I do yeah I know PJ too strong
00:22:36
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:22:40
Reese
He ain't doing that wacky stuff to PJ Duke.
00:22:40
Cokeley Brothers
Nope.
00:22:45
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, did you guys?
00:22:45
Reese
Too strong.
00:22:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, let's take a quick, let's take a quick intermission here. Uh, did you see,
00:22:56
Cokeley Brothers
well, really all the nitty lines at the black knight invite, but two primarily two primary, primarily two things. PJ Duke was destroying people. Like he put up 20 points and I think like two minutes against somebody.
00:23:14
Cokeley Brothers
And then he had a two to one match against Joe Seeley, which is whatever.
00:23:17
Ryne
Just teammate.
00:23:17
Cokeley Brothers
I think Joe Seeley is getting better and it's his teammate. um But then speaking about teammates, Nate Desmond beats Luke Lilladol.
00:23:29
Reese
But didn't we talk about this already? Didn't we talk about this last week?
00:23:32
Cokeley Brothers
Did we talk about this?
00:23:33
Ryne
I don't know. I wasn't here.
00:23:35
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
Broader Talent in Wrestling and Potential Insights
00:23:37
Reese
We didn't talk about this?
00:23:37
Cokeley Brothers
Did we? No, we did. Oh. Never mind then. um Okay, then back to the duel.
00:23:48
Reese
I don't remember what we said at all, but I have had to figure we talked about it.
00:23:53
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, um' here's i'll so if I didn't say it the first time, I'll say it again. if Nate Desmond wants to have an opportunity to start at 125, then he's earned it.
00:24:05
Cokeley Brothers
He deserves a look. um
00:24:08
Reese
Yeah, they should yeah think you throw a couple duels his way.
00:24:08
Ryne
Yeah, they'll probably use them a few more times.
00:24:13
Cokeley Brothers
But, okay, do you guys consider him as as somebody who Penn State could ultimately end up starting at the end of the year?
00:24:19
Reese
Yeah. I do.
00:24:22
Ryne
Over Luke?
00:24:22
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan? Yes.
00:24:26
Ryne
No.
00:24:27
Cokeley Brothers
Why not?
00:24:29
Ryne
Because...
00:24:32
Reese
Unproven?
00:24:33
Ryne
Yes, and Luke well luke is like guaranteed top three where Nate Desmond could make the finals or could DNP.
00:24:35
Reese
giving me shot.
00:24:42
Ryne
so
00:24:43
Reese
But how how will he ever be able to prove himself if they don't start him?
00:24:43
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Well, yes. So.
00:24:47
Ryne
No, that's what I'm saying. Throw him some duels, but use the five dates rule.
00:24:55
Reese
Well, he's not a true freshman, is he?
00:24:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yeah, he is.
00:24:57
Ryne
Nate Desmond is yes.
00:24:58
Reese
No.
00:24:59
Cokeley Brothers
um But what if, you know, what if one of those dates is against Dean Peterson and he beats Dean Peterson two takedowns to none?
00:25:08
Cokeley Brothers
That kind of proves it proves a lot, doesn't it?
00:25:10
Ryne
Well, then if Nate wants it, then Nate's got it, i guess, you know?
00:25:10
Reese
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:14
Ryne
I'm sure there's a that's a the kind of conversation that Kale has with those guys.
00:25:14
Cokeley Brothers
That's, that's what I'm thinking about.
00:25:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And I, and I imagine.
00:25:19
Ryne
But i would I would also imagine they would give Luke and not and another opportunity to wrestle him off.
00:25:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, probably.
00:25:30
Ryne
Which ultimately would lead to Luke starting. So this conversation is over.
00:25:34
Cokeley Brothers
Well, well, well, you really, you really think that there's no chance that Nate doesn't beats him again.
00:25:40
Reese
How many times did they wrestle high school, I wonder?
00:25:41
Ryne
uh no they were practice partners yeah
00:25:45
Cokeley Brothers
They were teammates.
00:25:47
Reese
Yeah.
00:25:47
Cokeley Brothers
So a lot.
00:25:50
Reese
True.
00:25:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:25:52
Reese
He could beat him again then.
00:25:52
Cokeley Brothers
But anyway.
00:25:53
Ryne
you buffoon i will say no because it will be lightning luke lilidal
00:25:54
Cokeley Brothers
I think he could.
00:25:56
Reese
Why would you say no? How could you say no?
00:26:03
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I mean, either way, continues within lineup and across teams.
00:26:09
Cokeley Brothers
us within a lineup and across teams 165, gotta eat my own words here. Michael Caliendo beat the brakes off of Conor Uten.
00:26:23
Ryne
Yeah, but Yudin, man, that was that was kind of a weird match for Yudin. Because last year, he had he was having a close match with him before he blew his knee out.
00:26:31
Reese
Is back?
00:26:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and this time, Caliendo, yeah.
00:26:35
Ryne
He was winning at one point.
00:26:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But this time, Caliendo was... He looked good. He looked so good against him.
00:26:45
Ryne
Crispy.
00:26:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, I mean...
00:26:48
Ryne
That tech fall happened.
00:26:49
Reese
is he back
00:26:49
Ryne
I was like, all right, we're back. We're in this duel still. We got Patrick Kennedy.
00:26:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and it...
00:26:53
Ryne
He's going to win. Angelo Ferrari, he's going win.
00:26:55
Reese
yeah
00:26:56
Ryne
And then Patrick Kennedy did not win.
00:26:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But... fool I mean, if Caliendo can get to that confidence and that rhythm against a guy like Ladarian Lockett, I don't see any reason why he's not able to beat them
00:27:12
Reese
Well, what do you mean rhythm?
00:27:15
Cokeley Brothers
him. That's the hard part, right? is
00:27:17
Ryne
You're saying Caliendo has no rhythm, Reese?
00:27:17
Cokeley Brothers
Ladarian moves well, moves better than Newton does.
00:27:22
Reese
I mean, no. Yes.
00:27:26
Cokeley Brothers
when When you're getting to your offense in in the way that he was, you can tell that there's like... not a beat, but, but he's, he's moving in, in, in an order like, and he's moving intentionally.
00:27:37
Reese
Yeah. I don't think Lidario Lackey is going to give him that opportunity.
00:27:38
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:27:42
Cokeley Brothers
that's, that's the thing is, is can Caliendo find it against the guy who moves as well as Ladarian Lockett does easier said than done.
00:27:53
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah, I mean, Caliendo, he wrestled with a chip on his shoulder and he looked really dang good doing it. And, Michael, I'm sorry for doubting you.
00:28:06
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah. 174. Duel, or match of the duel. MJ Gaitan, maybe with the... One of the most surprising upsets of this of the the season so far.
00:28:15
Reese
and again
00:28:20
Ryne
Yeah.
00:28:22
Ryne
Yeah.
00:28:23
Cokeley Brothers
And you know...
00:28:23
Reese
I mean, how can you not say that he looked like he jumped levels?
00:28:29
Cokeley Brothers
Because I think if they wrestle again, that doesn't happen.
00:28:32
Reese
What did he do to go up? i Because I missed that part.
00:28:36
Cokeley Brothers
Let me yeah let me let me lay this out for you.
00:28:37
Ryne
He was scrambling.
00:28:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. So patrick kennedy Patrick Kennedy kind of charged at Guyton like a bowl seeing red.
00:28:40
Ryne
Scrambly bambly.
00:28:47
Cokeley Brothers
He just kind of wanted to get his hands on Guyton and get to his offense. um And he was not...
00:28:57
Cokeley Brothers
delicate. He wasn't elegant about it. Now that allowed for Guy Tant to kind of wrestle through positions, give Kelly or Kennedy a couple of scares, putting him on his back briefly.
00:29:11
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:29:11
Reese
right.
00:29:13
Cokeley Brothers
And what he what ended up happening is i think, yeah, Kennedy got the first takedown and then Guyton gets away and Kennedy gets right back in on a shot and a scramble ensues and Guyton holds him on his back for a three count and then quickly backs out of it and gets, so it gets the takedown and it's four to four off of non-control or neutral, neutral danger zone takedown.
00:29:39
Cokeley Brothers
And then another shot from Patrick Kennedy and Guyton, Kennedy splits the middle guy. Ton secures one of his arms and flattens it back out and just bends behind for the takedown. And then the match continues to happen.
00:29:51
Ryne
Excuse me.
00:29:51
Cokeley Brothers
And the only reason we go into overtime is because guy. Ton is fading and he gives up a ah stall point from backing out of bounds at the end.
00:29:57
Reese
he gives a huge stall points.
00:30:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But the final point was in the last three seconds of the match.
00:30:05
Reese
Yeah.
00:30:05
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:30:07
Reese
what what What about that match tells you that it can't be replicated?
00:30:07
Ryne
How does Kennedy not get a takedown in overtime? That's what I want to know. How how does he not do it?
00:30:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah because Because all of Gaetan's two takedowns...
00:30:20
Reese
icon almost took him down in overtime.
00:30:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Gaetan's two takedowns, though, were off of Kennedy's offense. So since Gaetan is not able to do the scoring himself, I don't feel comfortable assuming...
00:30:27
Reese
okay
00:30:33
Reese
you This is coming from a guy who never shot.
00:30:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and look how much success I had.
00:30:40
Reese
You had success until a certain point, but look look at Gaitan.
00:30:44
Cokeley Brothers
Right. And, it but we're at, we're at, yeah, but I, I would feel better seeing Guyton get to his own offense because we've seen Kennedy and how he's able to finish on people.
00:30:44
Ryne
Yes. yes
00:30:44
Reese
He's proven it. look what he's he's he's proven it
00:30:59
Reese
Yeah.
00:31:04
Cokeley Brothers
And they were at the same weight last year. So you think from last year,
00:31:08
Reese
yeah Yeah, they did not... I think last... Or two years ago when they wrestled in the duel, I compare that, Guyton, to this one, and I'd say this one is clearly better.
00:31:16
Cokeley Brothers
okay
00:31:21
Reese
He was able able to...
00:31:22
Cokeley Brothers
I'll give you what I'll give you is it seems like he cares way more.
00:31:23
Reese
He only gave up one takedown.
00:31:28
Reese
Neat. Right.
00:31:29
Cokeley Brothers
Now, I don't know how much he cared in the first place, but it's the, I guess maybe the, yeah.
00:31:30
Reese
Yeah.
00:31:32
Reese
He seems like he cares more about position, holding good position. and yeah Wrestling position.
00:31:38
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. It's at least the effort is more, more obvious to the fan, the viewer. I don't know. I don't think it's irrational to be more comfortable with the person who's scoring off of offense.
00:31:54
Reese
Well, I don't, I think you're, I think you're, You're saying you're more comfortable, but you're also saying it won't happen again.
00:32:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. If, if, if these two wrestle each other again, it would have to be at NCAAs. Um, I don't expect Guyton to win again.
00:32:17
Reese
That's...
00:32:17
Cokeley Brothers
Now that could be really dumb.
00:32:21
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:32:22
Reese
It could happen again, is what you're saying.
00:32:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:32:26
Ryne
Guyton's gonna call you out, Sammy. Just like he called out the the Casey's guy.
00:32:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i'm I'm actually the guy that he ran into at the Casey's gas station.
00:32:34
Reese
What? Oh.
00:32:36
Ryne
didn't hear about that story?
00:32:36
Reese
What are you talking about?
00:32:37
Cokeley Brothers
I was hooded.
00:32:38
Ryne
Tell him the story, Sam.
00:32:40
Cokeley Brothers
he at right after Guyton wins, he said. that he was at, he was at a Casey's the other day and that somebody came up to him said, you're not going to win later this week. And that was it.
00:32:53
Cokeley Brothers
And I'm like, wow, that's, it's kind of crazy.
00:32:55
Reese
how would you Why would you say that to him?
00:32:57
Cokeley Brothers
Right. to That's, that's a Hawkeye fan.
00:32:58
Ryne
as It's cutthroat cut throw it up in here.
00:33:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:33:03
Reese
We do that, huh?
00:33:04
Ryne
We do it like that.
00:33:05
Reese
When are we going to – yeah, when are guys going to start being mad at our picks?
00:33:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:33:11
Reese
When are going to start getting called out?
00:33:13
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, I've been called a stone-headed dummy for a couple of the things I've said.
00:33:14
Reese
That will be the day.
00:33:19
Reese
By – who? Your former teammates?
00:33:23
Cokeley Brothers
Just Twitter people? Nah, just Twitter people.
00:33:25
Reese
Oh, Twitter people. yeah
00:33:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:33:27
Ryne
One guy called.
00:33:27
Reese
They're not directly told that calling you that.
00:33:30
Ryne
One guy said Sammy's tweet was the dumbest thing he's ever seen in wrestling Twitter.
00:33:35
Reese
I did see that. Yeah.
00:33:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:33:38
Reese
It was fine. It was a fine tweet.
00:33:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:33:39
Reese
Good question.
00:33:42
Cokeley Brothers
There's evidence. There's evidence. we'll get We'll get to it. But before we move on from 174, do you think this kind of cracks the door open a little bit for Gabe Arnold to put his foot in and be like, hey, I'm not telling you guys to make choice right now, but I'm making my way down to 174. Think about Tom.
00:34:01
Cokeley Brothers
think about it tom
00:34:02
Ryne
Making my way downtown.
00:34:04
Reese
I think ah think ah
00:34:05
Ryne
does it and It's PK.
00:34:09
Reese
and makes it makes PK seem a little more vulnerable, but I think PK is definitely going to be the guy.
00:34:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know what to think of the idea of Gabe Arnold down at 174.
00:34:20
Ryne
PK's going to turn it on at Nationals.
00:34:24
Ryne
He's going be like, yeah.
00:34:24
Reese
I think Kennedy has looked great this year, and the this match did not make me think Kennedy looked – I didn't think Kennedy looked bad.
00:34:32
Ryne
That's because that's because iowa Iowa looked bad overall.
00:34:33
Reese
I think NJ looked good.
00:34:37
Ryne
race The whole team just looked bad.
00:34:40
Reese
What about Kennedy looked bad, though?
00:34:44
Ryne
I mean, how you've got the kid like stumbling over his own feet, dead tired in the third period, and you don't you don't get a takedown in overtime?
00:34:50
Reese
Dude, but he was...
00:34:50
Cokeley Brothers
the
00:34:51
Reese
he was
00:34:55
Ryne
Come on, brother.
00:34:55
Reese
he was He had goods good sprawls and like good defense. He like would hustle. He was hustling. He was husling might have been stumbling, but he had good defense.
00:35:01
Ryne
Yeah, but that's...
00:35:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it it is
00:35:01
Ryne
Why wasn't he... Why wasn't he trying... Why wasn't he trying something different? Why wasn't he trying to get to different angles or... You know i mean?
00:35:09
Cokeley Brothers
it It's a testament to how of and how much of an impact Gaetan's shot defense had had on him
00:35:10
Reese
Well, this is
00:35:12
Ryne
He was just like, push, push, push. Shoot, shoot, shoot.
00:35:16
Reese
That's all you've got.
00:35:20
Reese
How what?
00:35:21
Cokeley Brothers
that it was, it was a testament to how much of an impact I tons shot defense had on him. He was that hesitant by the end of the match to take a shot. Um, yeah, very interesting.
00:35:33
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:35:34
Reese
Gaitan is undefeated. On the season. um' yeah I'm interested. I'm interested to see. You say Iowa State doesn't go? or do do they go?
00:35:43
Ryne
They do go.
00:35:43
Reese
To the CKL? They do?
00:35:45
Ryne
They'll be there.
00:35:45
Cokeley Brothers
They are, they are listed for it. Yes.
00:35:48
Reese
That'll be exciting. You'll see, what does NC State go?
00:35:51
Ryne
Hi-ho Silver.
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
NC State does not go. 174, he'll see Simon Ruiz, Danny Wask, Bo Mantanona, Dashiell Lamer, Brody Conley, Nick Fine, Brody Bauman.
00:35:55
Reese
wow well, so he'll see Ruiz, right? He should at least.
00:36:02
Ryne
ASU's not going either.
00:36:10
Reese
Okay. That'll be good. That'll be good. Good measuring stick.
00:36:16
Ryne
I was thinking Nico Ruiz when you said Ruiz. was like, I don't think ASU is going either. And there are different weight classes.
00:36:21
Reese
Nico Ruiz is at 165. think. think
00:36:25
Ryne
Yeah, I think you're right.
00:36:26
Cokeley Brothers
Arizona state is also not going and he is at one 65.
00:36:28
Ryne
Yeah.
00:36:30
Cokeley Brothers
No, no. Arizona state is going nevermind.
00:36:31
Ryne
Oh, they are?
00:36:33
Cokeley Brothers
Nevermind.
00:36:34
Ryne
okay.
00:36:34
Cokeley Brothers
Purdue will be there.
00:36:35
Ryne
some reason, I thought they were not on the list.
00:36:35
Cokeley Brothers
Arizona state.
00:36:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Um, okay. 184 Angelo Ferrari wins a two to one match off of the strength of a stall point, which is really funny based on how the people describe Angelo Ferrari.
00:36:54
Cokeley Brothers
What did you guys think about Dean's very impressive ability to shut down and prevent any takedown?
00:37:03
Reese
Impressive. Very impressive.
00:37:08
Ryne
But he couldn't get one either.
00:37:09
Cokeley Brothers
It left me...
00:37:10
Reese
We couldn't get one.
00:37:10
Cokeley Brothers
No, I don't think he tried.
00:37:11
Reese
Not even close.
00:37:14
Cokeley Brothers
But it did...
00:37:14
Reese
But how do you? How do you take him down? I mean, if anybody can take him down, it's probably not going be that dude.
00:37:22
Cokeley Brothers
no probably not gonna be him but he tried
00:37:24
Reese
have to do a flying squirrel on him or something. do Just really think outside the box.
00:37:29
Cokeley Brothers
nitra
00:37:29
Reese
Somebody's going to have to really just send it.
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
he he hit a flying squirrel Angelo like posted up on his hips and put him to the ground and Dean somehow got an angle in Funk World and didn't give up the take yes yes
00:37:41
Reese
He did hit him with a fight he had a flying squirrel in that match.
00:37:46
Reese
Wow.
00:37:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. um Yeah. Just a ridiculous match.
00:37:56
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah, I guess there's there's not really too much to say about it.
00:37:59
Reese
was kind of like laying in bed while this match was going on. So I was like in and out.
00:38:06
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:38:07
Reese
It was the Pinero block match. blame I blame them.
00:38:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that all that'll do a number on you. All right, 197.
00:38:19
Cokeley Brothers
Rocky Elam, when he's healthy, he's pretty dang good.
00:38:21
Ryne
He's back.
00:38:23
Reese
He looked tough.
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
And yeah, I mean, he had strength, leverage, length.
00:38:31
Reese
he just He just made this a two-horse race, in my opinion. Title.
00:38:36
Cokeley Brothers
That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like.
00:38:37
Reese
Yeah.
00:38:39
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think...
00:38:40
Ryne
Two horses, you say.
00:38:43
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think anybody in the group of Indean, Stout, McDaniel, Little, Novak, Sasso, I don't think any of those guys are going to...
00:38:50
Ryne
Little. Little could for sure jump into that.
00:38:54
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:38:55
Reese
What about Rademacher?
00:38:55
Ryne
I think.
00:38:57
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I forgot about him.
00:38:58
Ryne
And Rademacher.
00:39:01
Reese
Has he lost yet?
00:39:02
Cokeley Brothers
No, but it hasn't...
00:39:03
Ryne
But Little and Rademacher, that match is about to be fire when it happens.
00:39:09
Reese
Man, if Rademacher can like comfortably win...
00:39:10
Ryne
For the...
00:39:14
Reese
I might might say it.
00:39:16
Cokeley Brothers
and and That makes it a three horse.
00:39:16
Ryne
Okay, okay, so what if Steve what ah what about Steven little Steven little comfortably wins You suck Right marker just he's just red shirting
00:39:17
Reese
I might put him in there.
00:39:23
Reese
Nah, because Rademacher has not proven himself.
00:39:29
Reese
but did he last what Was he hurt last year? Is that why he didn't wrestle?
00:39:33
Cokeley Brothers
Little or Rademacher?
00:39:35
Reese
Rademacher.
00:39:36
Cokeley Brothers
He redshirted. Yeah.
00:39:38
Reese
What about the year before?
00:39:39
Cokeley Brothers
He was a true freshman. National qualifier. Yep.
00:39:42
Reese
ah
00:39:43
Ryne
Duh
00:39:45
Cokeley Brothers
Idiot.
00:39:45
Reese
I don't remember. That's the thing. is like he
00:39:47
Ryne
idiot right up no after his true freshman year idiot
00:39:49
Reese
Did he have like ah his breakout summer the before his true freshman or was after?
00:39:49
Cokeley Brothers
<unk>
00:39:54
Reese
my God.
00:39:54
Cokeley Brothers
After his freshman.
00:40:00
Reese
Suck my dick.
00:40:07
Reese
You've called me a buffoon and idiot twice.
00:40:08
Ryne
sammy you know
00:40:16
Cokeley Brothers
That was good.
00:40:17
Ryne
You're
00:40:19
Cokeley Brothers
That was good. um
00:40:20
Ryne
going to bleep that, Sam, or are you going to keep it in there?
00:40:24
Cokeley Brothers
Pat Kelly, I'm sorry. You're going have to listen to that one.
00:40:30
Cokeley Brothers
Pat Kelly.
00:40:31
Reese
Oh, yeah.
00:40:31
Ryne
Yeah.
00:40:32
Reese
Sorry, Pat.
00:40:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Rocky Elam looked good. Indean didn't have anything for him. Doesn't really change my opinion of Indean. He's still a rock-solid wrestler, 197. Just Rocky Elam is...
00:40:48
Ryne
Rocky Elam.
00:40:48
Cokeley Brothers
special when he's healthy.
00:40:49
Ryne
Yeah.
00:40:49
Cokeley Brothers
So, yeah. Okay. That's Cy Hawk. Closing thoughts on that?
00:40:59
Reese
Kevin Dresser is a dog. It's
00:41:02
Ryne
Kevin Dresser did something not even Cal Sanderson could do.
00:41:06
Reese
true.
00:41:08
Cokeley Brothers
How long was Kale the coach?
00:41:08
Reese
That was the best. That was the best the team's ever looked, my opinion.
00:41:16
Cokeley Brothers
How many years did Kale lose to Tom?
00:41:19
Ryne
Every year he was at Iowa State.
00:41:19
Reese
Five? Four?
00:41:22
Cokeley Brothers
How long was he there until?
00:41:23
Reese
Like four years?
00:41:25
Ryne
Yeah, four seasons, I think.
00:41:26
Reese
Or five?
00:41:26
Ryne
Maybe five.
00:41:28
Cokeley Brothers
Way to go, Big Kev.
00:41:32
Cokeley Brothers
dude and he got to see he After the duel, gets up, starts walking towards the Iowa corner to shake hands. They go back into the locker room. and He he just puts his hands up, looks up at the crowd, and then they get to party a little bit.
00:41:44
Reese
Yeah.
00:41:45
Cokeley Brothers
yeah that was That was good for them.
00:41:47
Reese
his post His post interview was good too.
00:41:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. he's
00:41:51
Reese
He's a cool dude.
00:41:52
Cokeley Brothers
He's good on the mic.
00:41:53
Reese
Yeah.
00:41:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:41:55
Reese
Yeah.
00:41:55
Cokeley Brothers
All right. It's time to talk about some real American freestyle.
00:42:01
Ryne
real American freestyle.
00:42:02
Reese
Your freaking nephew, dude. He... After I left, he just didn't... he I sent the code or whatever that you sent me and...
00:42:14
Reese
He's like, i don't want to watch you anymore. He's like, I'm not interested.
00:42:17
Cokeley Brothers
he he He gave you a taste of your own medicine.
00:42:17
Ryne
Cooper.
00:42:19
Reese
Yeah. What
00:42:22
Reese
does that mean?
00:42:24
Cokeley Brothers
That is so you You are the type of person to just kind of be like, never mind. don't want to.
00:42:31
Reese
What?
00:42:32
Ryne
I don't know. I don't know Reese has ever done that before.
00:42:34
Reese
Yeah, when have I ever done that?
00:42:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Maybe not with login information, but to say that you want something and then later on be like, never mind.
00:42:44
Reese
Maybe. Possibly.
00:42:46
Ryne
don't know.
00:42:47
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe I'm, I'm, I'm reaching, I'm reaching, but yeah, whatever. That's fine. ah If Cooper doesn't want to watch wrestling, I don't care. Uh, it was good though.
00:42:55
Reese
you care.
00:42:55
Cokeley Brothers
The event was good. Huh?
00:42:58
Reese
You care.
00:42:59
Cokeley Brothers
I care a little bit, but for this, for the sake, what'd you say?
00:43:00
Ryne
He'll catch the clips on TikTok.
00:43:05
Ryne
He'll catch the clips on TikTok.
00:43:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I got a funny story about that.
00:43:09
Reese
Well, the barn session took that.
00:43:10
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Yeah.
00:43:15
Ryne
Nice plug.
00:43:15
Cokeley Brothers
But the the overall... The production of the event, the actual matches, and the action in the matches, I was happy with all of it.
00:43:26
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:43:26
Ryne
Yeah. Seem to be, uh,
00:43:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:31
Ryne
how everyone kind of felt.
00:43:33
Reese
I want to see Henschel wrestle someone tough now.
00:43:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I'm sure it'll happen. Probably...
00:43:39
Reese
what Is Clay Guida, was he wrestled, right?
00:43:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he wrestled at, I think, Harper State.
00:43:47
Reese
Where is he from?
00:43:48
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:43:48
Ryne
Harper State.
00:43:50
Reese
Jersey? Jersey?
00:43:51
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know where he's from.
00:43:52
Ryne
Where's Harper State?
00:43:53
Reese
Is he related to Will Guido?
00:43:54
Ryne
There's a Harper Community College.
00:43:56
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe it was Harper Community College. I don't know. I don't remember.
00:44:01
Cokeley Brothers
I did brief research for it. um Let me pull up the actual results.
00:44:05
Reese
He's 43. Dang.
00:44:08
Reese
da
00:44:09
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:44:12
Cokeley Brothers
Starting at the bottom of the card, Bo Bassett pinned Darian Caldwell in a minute.
00:44:18
Ryne
Yeah, shocker. Can we stop giving Darian Caldwell matches now, please?
00:44:20
Cokeley Brothers
Pinned him in a minute.
00:44:23
Ryne
Please.
00:44:24
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, what you know what people are starting to say?
00:44:26
Ryne
Darian Caldwell versus an eighth grader.
00:44:29
Reese
Thank you.
00:44:31
Cokeley Brothers
Just keep making him younger until he wins. ah People are saying, oh the event's run by wwe WWE producers. Of course it's fixed.
00:44:42
Cokeley Brothers
No. I can guarantee you that match was not fixed. In the slightest. That is just how a match between Bo Bassett and Darian Caldwell would happen.
00:44:54
Ryne
Can you guarantee it?
00:44:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:44:57
Ryne
You can guarantee it.
00:44:59
Reese
taking their dance.
00:44:59
Cokeley Brothers
I can give you...
00:45:01
Cokeley Brothers
like it's It's free real estate.
00:45:07
Ryne
and don't believe you.
00:45:08
Cokeley Brothers
I guarantee.
00:45:08
Reese
What?
00:45:11
Cokeley Brothers
Um...
00:45:14
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, what'd you change?
00:45:14
Reese
I didn't do it,
00:45:16
Cokeley Brothers
I can hear myself now.
00:45:21
Reese
I didn't.
00:45:23
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:45:25
Ryne
I can still do it.
00:45:27
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. That's I'll just talk quieter.
00:45:31
Cokeley Brothers
And then the next match was Alexis Gomez taking out Bellamere seven to three. Um, Gomez was down in that match and then she, uh, she made comeback and that was awesome to see for her and her hometown.
00:45:44
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Pat Downey went out and did what he needed to do in that match, which was put on a show against Joaquin Buckley, a guy who I don't think has wrestled since high school.
00:45:58
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:46:00
Ryne
Couldn't tell.
00:46:00
Cokeley Brothers
But he went out there.
00:46:00
Ryne
You look pretty good.
00:46:01
Cokeley Brothers
he he He bombed Buckley, took him down, turned him picked him up, and put him on his back again.
00:46:07
Reese
Berkeley
00:46:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Reese, you'll know this Buckley guy. do you remember the clip of a UFC fighter who he kicks...
00:46:18
Ryne
Spinning in the air and kicks the dude.
00:46:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, well, so what happens at first is he tried he kicks and the guy catches his foot. And so what Buckley does in response is he like does a spinning back kick and like dislocates the guy's jaw and knocks him out with his heel.
00:46:33
Ryne
With his heel.
00:46:34
Reese
I've seen that.
00:46:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so that's...
00:46:36
Ryne
Everyone's seen it. it's the It's one of the top UFC clips of all time.
00:46:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it's like that and ah that one heavyweight.
00:46:44
Reese
Anderson Silva snapping his leg in half.
00:46:47
Cokeley Brothers
no
00:46:49
Ryne
That one's probably up there too, yes.
00:46:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:46:53
Ryne
I don't need to go to YouTube for that. That thing lives right up here.
00:46:55
Reese
That was scientific. That was just like, yeah, that was just amazing for science.
00:47:03
Ryne
Just like watch his leg bend around his leg. It's like, oh sick.
00:47:08
Reese
Science rules.
00:47:10
Cokeley Brothers
No, thank you. oh yeah. Buckley was a replacement for Corey Anderson. That's right. That's why that match happened. Okay.
00:47:18
Ryne
For who?
00:47:18
Cokeley Brothers
ah next match. It was a catch weight matchup. Caden Henschel, Clay, Clay Guida. Henschel was, I think, giving up a decent amount of weight wrestling one 60, uh, and teched him 11 to zero in the third period.
00:47:27
Ryne
Didn't matter.
00:47:29
Reese
Thank you.
00:47:33
Cokeley Brothers
Um, just looked like the better wrestler.
00:47:37
Ryne
The D two kids got it.
00:47:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and and I mentioned that in my preview. It's like he hasn't had the success that people expect expect upon him for his social status and his notoriety, whatever.
00:47:54
Cokeley Brothers
um He's a good wrestler. he's He's fairly competent. he's not gonna nest I don't think he's necessarily going make a world team, but he's solid.
00:48:02
Ryne
might.
Real American Freestyle Event Recap
00:48:04
Ryne
He might. What are the odds?
00:48:04
Cokeley Brothers
No, no. He would have to represent Great Britain.
00:48:07
Ryne
What are the odds?
00:48:10
Ryne
No, give me the betting odds.
00:48:12
Cokeley Brothers
what ah he if ah Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna say.
00:48:17
Ryne
500 to 1?
00:48:20
Cokeley Brothers
500 to one, Caden Henschel.
00:48:20
Ryne
500 to 1?
00:48:22
Reese
Who?
00:48:24
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Caden Henschel is not going to make a US senior world team.
00:48:25
Ryne
To make a world team.
00:48:28
Ryne
Ah, son of a... All right, so 700 to 1? Ooh.
00:48:33
Cokeley Brothers
A thousand.
00:48:35
Ryne
oh
00:48:37
Reese
At 70?
00:48:38
Ryne
All right.
00:48:38
Reese
seventy
00:48:40
Ryne
I'll give you $20. I'll take that action.
00:48:43
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. What does that mean? I owe you 20,000? Is that
00:48:50
Ryne
If you made a US world team, you'd be you'd be pooping yourself.
00:48:50
Cokeley Brothers
how that works?
00:48:54
Cokeley Brothers
I'd be in trouble. ah Yeah.
00:48:57
Reese
Big trouble.
00:48:58
Cokeley Brothers
Jordan Oliver is a new champ.
00:49:00
Ryne
Where's my money?
00:49:03
Cokeley Brothers
within within real American freestyle, he takes out real woods two to two on a very, a very tight match two to two, obviously no takedowns.
00:49:14
Cokeley Brothers
Real woods is in on a shot late in the match. And Jordan Oliver not only defends it, but uses the sprawl head in the hole position or front headlock position to work ahead in the hole to drive a step out and win in the last moment, two to two.
00:49:29
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:49:30
Ryne
I thought he was on a single leg and drove him out.
00:49:33
Cokeley Brothers
He went, he stuffed, head in the hole, grabbed a single leg, drove him out.
00:49:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:49:41
Ryne
That sounds better.
00:49:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. um Austin Gomez beat at Austin O'Connor nine to one I would be interested to see O'Connor competing more frequently.
00:49:51
Ryne
I thought that match was going to be a lot closer
00:49:52
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:49:55
Cokeley Brothers
It was, it was then what the score depicts.
00:49:58
Reese
Dude, Gomez is tough.
00:50:01
Ryne
Yeah, whatever.
00:50:01
Cokeley Brothers
Gomez is tough.
00:50:02
Reese
And also, I mean, O'Connor.
00:50:03
Ryne
Sammy says, Sammy says, Yanni's going to cook him. So it's Amy said on Twitter.
00:50:07
Cokeley Brothers
I do say that. Yep.
00:50:10
Reese
Who?
00:50:10
Cokeley Brothers
And I stand by it.
00:50:11
Ryne
Yanni, he says, Yanni's going to cook Gomez.
00:50:12
Cokeley Brothers
Yanni.
00:50:13
Reese
Oh, Yanni.
00:50:13
Cokeley Brothers
They wrestle. They wrestle at the next one. So it's that's in 19 days.
00:50:17
Reese
That's exciting.
00:50:20
Cokeley Brothers
That's ah that that is something that I enjoy about this is they're pumping them out.
00:50:24
Reese
What's Nomad have to say about that one?
00:50:26
Cokeley Brothers
He dropped a whole YouTube video. I haven't watched it. I don't know if I'm gonna.
00:50:29
Reese
about about the next ref like when did he just a couple days ago or like what a punk ass
00:50:29
Cokeley Brothers
it No, I think just about the whole thing.
00:50:33
Ryne
about that late How about we don't watch it?
00:50:38
Cokeley Brothers
like this morning.
00:50:45
Ryne
Don't give them the views.
00:50:47
Reese
shit is so disappointing yeah I would I you just know 100% know that if Flo was involved he wouldn't be saying shit
00:50:48
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah. Yeah, i don't I don't understand the motive behind the...
00:50:54
Ryne
Why does it... It is... it is
00:50:59
Ryne
Well, and it is so successful, like, excuse me, why would you even shit on it?
00:51:04
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, i did I did have a guy...
00:51:06
Ryne
Wrong.
00:51:07
Cokeley Brothers
I did have a guy like quote tweet something I tweeted about real. Oh, I i said, I have three looked awesome. Um, and I'm super excited for the next one, even, even more so because I liked the matchups and the, somebody quote tweeted it and said, and no one will be watching.
00:51:22
Cokeley Brothers
And I'm like, they sold 5,500 tickets.
00:51:24
Ryne
Wrong. wrong
00:51:27
Cokeley Brothers
They had, I don't, i don't know what the numbers are, but they're having,
00:51:28
Reese
Let's use a Twitter card.
00:51:31
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, that's Twitter turds. You guys, I think about this more often than you probably expect me to probably on a daily basis.
00:51:35
Ryne
Bert turds. ah Sammy loves thinking about the haters.
00:51:39
Cokeley Brothers
I think about the fact that you know, no, no, no, no. What this, what I'm talking about is when you guys texted me and said, Sammy, you can't get Twitter head or Twitter brain.
00:51:50
Reese
but Twitter, brand Twitter, Twitter derangement syndrome.
00:51:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. And so I, I, I try to use that to keep myself grounded. Um, but yeah, a Gomez looked good.
00:52:03
Cokeley Brothers
O'Connor, again, if he wrestled more often, I'd be interested to see what happens, but yeah.
00:52:09
Reese
Which is why
00:52:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:52:13
Reese
Oliver, J.O., that's what makes his match all the more impressive.
00:52:20
Cokeley Brothers
The fact that he has been wrestling very frequently and he beat a world bronze medalist.
00:52:24
Reese
The fact that he – what was his last?
00:52:24
Ryne
Everybody's J.O.
00:52:26
Reese
His last match was in three years or three years ago.
00:52:29
Ryne
No, he wrestled recently.
00:52:30
Reese
why did that Where did I see that?
00:52:33
Cokeley Brothers
That was again, no Matt who was, he was wrong. 2024 non-Olympic world team trials.
00:52:36
Reese
Why did he say that?
00:52:38
Cokeley Brothers
Cause he just was wrong. People are wrong.
00:52:40
Ryne
He loves to be wrong.
00:52:41
Cokeley Brothers
It happens. um
00:52:44
Reese
That's just uncharacteristic though.
00:52:45
Cokeley Brothers
J.O. J.O. wrestled at non Olympic world team trials. And he, he he's had these, um, or he had at least one match with and Donia and unlike the UFC fight pass after like, I think Virginia tech Campbell duel or something like that.
00:52:52
Reese
Yeah, he'd beat Andonian, right?
00:53:03
Cokeley Brothers
Um, so, so J has been around and he's obviously still savvy on the mat because I think he's helping coach a club and he's training for MMA.
00:53:03
Reese
Well... Nevermind.
00:53:06
Ryne
He's the man. And he's got the raft belt, baby.
00:53:14
Cokeley Brothers
Um, um And it's the same deal with O'Connor.
00:53:17
Ryne
He should retire.
00:53:18
Cokeley Brothers
He's he's at Illinois.
00:53:18
Ryne
He should retire with the belt. That would be hilarious.
00:53:21
Cokeley Brothers
well he Did you see what he said? He's like, give me the winner. I want to be double champ between Gomez and Yanni.
00:53:26
Ryne
Oh.
00:53:28
Cokeley Brothers
No, it's too early for a double champ.
00:53:28
Reese
I like it.
00:53:29
Ryne
Yes. No, it's not. It's never too early for a double champ.
00:53:32
Reese
What do you mean?
00:53:33
Cokeley Brothers
Give me give me ten
00:53:33
Reese
yes Too early.
00:53:36
Cokeley Brothers
give me 10 events before we talk about a double champ.
00:53:37
Ryne
Uh,
00:53:38
Cokeley Brothers
Who was the first double champ in the UFC?
00:53:40
Ryne
poos, poos.
00:53:41
Reese
hit an event.
00:53:42
Ryne
It was
00:53:44
Cokeley Brothers
And how deep were they into it?
00:53:47
Reese
That is just a poor comparison.
00:53:51
Cokeley Brothers
Why? Why is it? Why?
00:53:53
Reese
Because you're comparing the UFC to Real American freestyle. it has It doesn't have the legs to sound like Nomad. It does not have the legs to be able to bank on building that type of thing up long term.
00:54:14
Reese
My opinion.
00:54:17
Cokeley Brothers
So you don't see Real American Freestyle being here in like 10 years?
00:54:18
Reese
listen no Dude, it'll i mean it's not going to be making money like the UFC does.
00:54:21
Ryne
Oh, it'll be here.
00:54:26
Ryne
Willie will never let it die.
00:54:29
Reese
And it's not – it's also not – the UFC had the luxury of of being around in a time where you could afford to like you know do something new or put yourself out there in the sense of like – it's on TV. People – everybody watches TV. Everybody is going to be like – everybody watches like – watches like television, satellite, cable, whatever, you know, there's only one, i don't know how to like, I'm having a tough time articulating this, but do you get what I'm saying?
00:55:05
Cokeley Brothers
You're talking about the fact that the the the entertainment ecosystem is so fractured now that it makes it difficult for any new thing to bank on the idea of having massive success.
00:55:20
Ryne
Counter.
00:55:20
Reese
Exactly. You have all of these streaming services that you have with what,
00:55:21
Ryne
Counter.
00:55:24
Ryne
Counter. Power slap.
00:55:29
Reese
Yeah.
00:55:29
Cokeley Brothers
Funded by va dana White.
00:55:31
Ryne
not It wasn't at first, though. Not until it got big.
00:55:34
Cokeley Brothers
No, but i do think I do think it is a ah terrible thing that needs to die.
00:55:35
Ryne
Not until it got big.
00:55:42
Cokeley Brothers
But that's okay.
00:55:43
Ryne
Cornhole? Cornhole is also on ESPN frequently.
00:55:45
Cokeley Brothers
Corn, yeah, like therere there are things that I would say, i would assume the people would enjoy watching more, would enjoy watching wrestling over that stuff, and I could be wrong.
00:56:01
Cokeley Brothers
Very biased. I think one of the benefits that real American freestyle is providing that we're not necessarily always cognizant of is the fact that we see a Joaquin Buckley wrestle Pat Downey. We see a Clay Guida wrestle Caden Henschel, and it gives you an idea and an understanding to the fact that there are extreme levels to how
00:56:32
Cokeley Brothers
You know, UFC fans always talk about how these high-level UFC guys can be right there with wrestling. he can Oh, he can go win world title next year.
00:56:43
Cokeley Brothers
We're going to see in this next event with David Carr, Balal Muhammad.
00:56:45
Ryne
What was that? What was that?
00:56:47
Cokeley Brothers
Huh.
00:56:47
Ryne
What was that just now?
00:56:49
Cokeley Brothers
Was what?
00:56:50
Ryne
What was that little... Did you do an accent?
00:56:53
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:56:55
Ryne
Sounded like you did an accent.
00:56:57
Cokeley Brothers
No. But um ah where was I? Brother.
00:57:02
Ryne
Yes, you did.
00:57:03
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:57:04
Ryne
Yes, you did. You totally did.
00:57:04
Cokeley Brothers
He... Like, Bilal Muhammad and and David are going wrestle each other. And what we know what to expect. But m MMA, UFC fans...
00:57:15
Reese
Who's Bilal Muhammad?
00:57:19
Cokeley Brothers
Pretty... Did he fight for a title?
00:57:22
Ryne
Yep.
00:57:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:57:24
Ryne
Might have held it at one point.
00:57:24
Cokeley Brothers
he's He's been in a title fight in the UFC.
00:57:25
Ryne
Can't remember.
00:57:26
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Maybe.
00:57:28
Ryne
You wanna know something funny is we have a Muhammad Bilal on our wrestling team.
00:57:35
Reese
Nice.
00:57:36
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:57:36
Cokeley Brothers
did Who did he fight for? Was it Leon Edwards?
00:57:43
Ryne
Sounds right.
00:57:43
Cokeley Brothers
Gilbert Burns?
00:57:45
Ryne
That also sounds right.
00:57:47
Reese
Gilbert Burns.
00:57:49
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. he's He's been a notable name within UFC.
00:57:50
Ryne
Can we...
00:57:52
Cokeley Brothers
ah a and
00:57:53
Ryne
I'm ready to rip the bandaid off. Let's get to this next match.
00:57:58
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah. Okay, let's talk about it. Spencer Lee got pinned.
00:58:01
Ryne
Oh, such a sad, sad weekend for the Hawkeyes.
00:58:02
Cokeley Brothers
By a Ukrainian who hasn't wrestled seriously since like 2020. Yeah.
00:58:10
Ryne
Whoops.
00:58:12
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:58:13
Ryne
Thrown.
00:58:13
Cokeley Brothers
It...
00:58:14
Ryne
Outside tripped, whatever you want to call it.
00:58:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Dude, so, I mean, Spencer... He ended up in a couple positions and gave up some scores in the match. But still was winning. He was winning 9-4 prior to the throw.
00:58:27
Cokeley Brothers
And... It was interesting because he kind of froze in that upper body position. um And yeah, Yatsenko took the opportunity of putting Spencer on his back and Spencer's got magnets on his shoulder blades.
00:58:45
Ryne
Oh, yeah.
00:58:46
Cokeley Brothers
He's not familiar in that position, which is understandable.
00:58:49
Reese
with one second left on the clock
00:58:51
Cokeley Brothers
Like three. he But he was, I mean, he was a pancake. It was very flat.
00:58:59
Reese
Dude, that is an underrated throw if you ask me.
00:59:00
Cokeley Brothers
um The...
00:59:02
Reese
The Polish throw.
00:59:04
Ryne
It's hard to get to.
00:59:05
Reese
Shit's awesome.
00:59:05
Ryne
It's not as easy to get to as you think.
00:59:07
Reese
Bro.
00:59:08
Cokeley Brothers
It's just being able to trap that
00:59:08
Ryne
It's a lot easier when they're down on their knees, but high schoolers.
00:59:09
Reese
I hit it. hit it on everybody in the room in Fort Hays in that last year when I finally was like, it's probably you.
00:59:14
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:59:16
Ryne
Oh, Brandon Ball.
00:59:22
Ryne
Yeah, you definitely didn't hit it on me. I'll tell you that.
00:59:25
Reese
Yeah.
00:59:26
Ryne
What about Brandon Ball? Did you get Brandon Ball with it?
00:59:29
Reese
Maybe. I did hit Brandon Ball in a sick elevator one time. Like the most clean elevator I've ever hit in my whole life.
00:59:39
Ryne
Gator bacon, you mean?
00:59:41
Reese
Yeah, Gator B. Well, it was a high flyer more because I was on my feet.
00:59:42
Ryne
You just...
00:59:45
Reese
It rear standing and I like...
00:59:49
Reese
Rear standing. From a rear standing.
00:59:52
Ryne
I'm proud of you.
00:59:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i mean, I'm guessing the...
00:59:54
Reese
But anyway, Nick Lee was great at the Polish, bro.
00:59:55
Cokeley Brothers
the
00:59:56
Reese
He hit that shit had on tons people.
00:59:59
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he... Yeah, it's basically being able to pin that that elbow of of your overhook.
01:00:07
Reese
Dude, you get that elbow cinched and step around it.
01:00:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:00:12
Reese
There's nothing they can do.
01:00:15
Cokeley Brothers
It's just the first part is easier said than done.
01:00:20
Reese
know. Yeah.
01:00:20
Cokeley Brothers
Um, but yeah, uh, that happened. And then something interesting started to happen in the next match, uh, between Ahmed Tazudinov world and Olympic champion prior pound for pound. Number one, I believe, uh, against Anthony Cassiope, who did not wrestle competitively for the last calendar year.
01:00:43
Cokeley Brothers
Cassiope was kind of putting them in danger a little bit in the match.
01:00:48
Ryne
He was winning 8-2, wasn't he?
01:00:49
Cokeley Brothers
Um, No. No. oh No.
01:00:53
Ryne
I thought he was up big at one point. And then he got pinned. Hmm.
01:01:02
Cokeley Brothers
Not that much. No, I don't remember exactly how the match was playing out. Cassiopeia was either about to get the lead with the next turn or had gotten the lead.
01:01:15
Cokeley Brothers
um But then Tazudinov just stepped over. I don't... I don't know what the how the coaches in his corner do it.
01:01:27
Cokeley Brothers
Because the guy just seems like he he goes out there and kind of kind of just like slumps to wins.
01:01:27
Reese
like deal with him.
01:01:36
Reese
I love it. I love, I love seeing this because it just proves me so right.
01:01:45
Cokeley Brothers
How would would you...
01:01:46
Reese
vind Indicated because I was like, why is everybody after his Olympic run?
01:01:46
Cokeley Brothers
would you
01:01:51
Reese
i was like, Why do people need to chill on this? They put him at number one pound for pound immediately. It's like, bro, like he's you're going to call him the best wrestler after one tournament, one year?
01:02:02
Ryne
Beating Kyle Snyder and Sadulayev?
01:02:04
Cokeley Brothers
ah ah The Sadulaev and Snyder wins puts you in a place.
01:02:06
Ryne
Yeah, he deserved it.
01:02:11
Reese
but yeah on Just because you dethroned the pound for pound guy means you're number one pound for pound automatically?
01:02:11
Ryne
and At ah at of time
01:02:12
Cokeley Brothers
Rarefied air.
01:02:13
Ryne
and at a time when... Well, I mean, look at look at ah the other guys that won Olympic titles. You know what i mean? Who else were were you going to make pound for pound number one?
01:02:25
Ryne
Who else were going to make pound for pound number one at that time? Seriously. Seriously. It would have to be Taz.
01:02:31
Reese
I don't know.
01:02:32
Ryne
The only answer is Taz.
01:02:33
Reese
it a pal?
01:02:33
Cokeley Brothers
Jamalov.
01:02:35
Reese
Or, yeah, a malabia. Or, like, I mean...
01:02:37
Ryne
And he was number, I think he was number two.
01:02:39
Cokeley Brothers
Kiyuka.
01:02:43
Reese
Kiyuka?
01:02:43
Cokeley Brothers
But Kiyuka lost earlier the year earlier in the year. Tazudinov had the best wins and the longest undefeated streak of that group.
01:02:53
Reese
Either way, people still talked about him as if he was on the level of, like, like as if his legacy was that of Asadulayev.
01:02:53
Cokeley Brothers
It makes sense.
01:03:06
Cokeley Brothers
It was definitely one of those situations where it felt like that's where it was going.
01:03:06
Reese
People talked about him.
01:03:07
Ryne
it was It was on that direction. Yeah.
01:03:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:03:11
Ryne
It was definitely in that going in that direction.
01:03:13
Reese
Based off one tournament, dude. That's what's just crazy about it to me.
01:03:15
Ryne
Two tournaments?
01:03:16
Reese
It's just...
01:03:17
Cokeley Brothers
Two. Yes.
01:03:18
Reese
too Dude, he he looked...
01:03:18
Cokeley Brothers
Worlds and Olympics.
01:03:19
Reese
he looked okay the next year at Worlds.
01:03:24
Cokeley Brothers
And I, and I don't, I don't disagree with that. It was either that or like Kyle Snyder had made some very significant adjustments. Um,
01:03:33
Reese
Yeah.
01:03:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. hi lady Yeah. I don't know. But but like this feels like ah even... He got teched at the at the Islamic Solidarity Games by Mukan, and he gives up a lot of points to Cassiopeia. It just feels like there's even more regression.
01:03:54
Cokeley Brothers
But... don't know.
01:03:58
Ryne
He was also up at heavyweight though, for wrestling cast, just saying.
01:03:58
Cokeley Brothers
Um...
01:04:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but I don't know if Cassiope...
01:04:03
Ryne
Giving up a little bit of weight.
01:04:05
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so. I mean, Cassiope... When I saw him at NCAAs, he looked slim.
01:04:12
Ryne
Well, he did get down to 97 kilos, but i' not um I'm saying he's probably bigger than Taz still.
01:04:15
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
01:04:21
Cokeley Brothers
don't know. I have no idea. I don't know. um Next match, Blades, Tech Falls, Rivera ah definitely wanted to definitely wanted to suplex her, and Rivera just wasn't letting it happen.
01:04:36
Ryne
No, she was like, no, no, thank you.
01:04:39
Cokeley Brothers
She was scared of it. I understand that.
01:04:40
Ryne
I am buying no airline tickets.
01:04:43
Cokeley Brothers
Nope. And then the the match, the main event of the card, um Michael Chandler beats Chad Mendes 4-1. don't really know.
01:04:58
Cokeley Brothers
don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. It's like, it's probably fine.
01:05:02
Ryne
Who cares?
01:05:02
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Michael Chandler and Chad Mendes. Yeah. Okay.
01:05:10
Ryne
Sammy, that was, I was, I don't know why that was the main event.
01:05:11
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm.
01:05:16
Ryne
going be honest with you.
01:05:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:05:20
Ryne
Why was that the main event?
01:05:21
Reese
Yeah, what happened that much?
01:05:21
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I said.
01:05:24
Cokeley Brothers
ah ah Basically, the biggest thing that happened was a head pinch from Michael Chandler. 4-1.
01:05:31
Reese
Nice.
01:05:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:05:32
Reese
Who would? taylor
01:05:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:05:34
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
01:05:38
Cokeley Brothers
I feel like Mendez was giving up some weight in that match too. But maybe not. Yeah. Yeah. and And that's that. They've got, like we said earlier, were my Real American Freestyle 4.
01:05:53
Cokeley Brothers
And we've already got some matches lined up for that. Yanni versus Gomez. David Carr versus Bilal Muhammad. Evan Wick, Dean Hammity. That'll be a fun rematch. Parker Keck, Eisen, Zahid, Valencia. Jacob Cardenas, Trent Heidly.
Upcoming Matches, Outcomes, and Connections
01:06:05
Cokeley Brothers
Bo Nickel, Yoel Romero, and Wyatt Hendrickson, Mason Paris will be the main match of the card. Even just with those matches. Sarah Hildebrandt and Maria Prevola-Raki.
01:06:15
Ryne
We committee. I like that.
01:06:18
Cokeley Brothers
yeah Yeah, it's a rematch of the U.S. Open.
01:06:21
Ryne
Yeah, I like that.
01:06:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:06:24
Ryne
I wish they would rest on folk style.
01:06:24
Cokeley Brothers
Hamidi lost. Hamidi lost to a Frenchman.
01:06:28
Ryne
They're both badgers. I'd like to see them wrestle folk style.
01:06:32
Reese
When did he lose to a French guy
01:06:34
Cokeley Brothers
ah This weekend.
01:06:37
Ryne
He was the only one to lose in that duel, wasn't he?
01:06:37
Reese
of guy?
01:06:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was Itaev. He's not bad, but kind of a...
01:06:44
Reese
Is he really French? He doesn't sound French.
01:06:48
Cokeley Brothers
I mean... Does Rakim Magamadov sound French?
01:06:53
Reese
No, that's what I'm saying.
01:06:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
01:06:57
Ryne
Is he really French?
01:06:57
Cokeley Brothers
um
01:06:58
Ryne
He doesn't sound.
01:07:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But yeah, this... this Real American for real American freestyle is something. If you are a fan of wrestling, it is worth your time to watch. It's good wrestling. It's a good presentation. It's entertaining.
01:07:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. It has elements of w WWE with the flair and and and the way they present some things. Um,
01:07:24
Reese
Good. That's good.
01:07:26
Cokeley Brothers
That's not, yeah, that's not a bad thing. I don't have any suspicion of matches being fixed or rigged or so or of like things being predetermined.
01:07:38
Cokeley Brothers
um And if they do, then then we'll have a real issue. But that's all I got.
01:07:47
Reese
Everything's pretty good.
01:07:49
Cokeley Brothers
I'm done.
01:07:51
Reese
No, in in SDSU, Minnesota,
01:07:54
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I forgot about that one.
01:07:54
Ryne
yeah yeah what i was about to say the same thing reese
01:07:55
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:07:57
Reese
Nice.
01:07:59
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I forgot about it. um Brady Rourke beat Jory Volk. Started things off right.
01:08:04
Reese
Brady Rourke. You think he's the brother of Will Rourke?
01:08:09
Ryne
they are definitely related did they both go there they're both from seneca yeah i'm almost positive they're brothers
01:08:10
Reese
trying to look it up. They're from the same high school.
01:08:17
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
01:08:22
Reese
Yeah, I couldn't find it.
01:08:24
Ryne
Look, look it up on his profile, Reese.
01:08:27
Cokeley Brothers
that's I'm doing.
01:08:27
Reese
Well, bet his profile didn't have any personal info.
01:08:31
Ryne
Family.
01:08:33
Cokeley Brothers
No personal? They don't talk about personal over there?
01:08:36
Reese
Maybe Will Rourke's personal or profile will have stuff. Nope.
01:08:44
Cokeley Brothers
I'll reach out to my contact.
Rasmussen's Comeback and South Dakota State's Victory
01:08:46
Cokeley Brothers
um Brady Rourke beat Jory Volk.
01:08:48
Ryne
Cam, Cam Samus.
01:08:50
Cokeley Brothers
ah Julian Tagg beat Vance Vombar. ah
01:08:55
Ryne
Keep going. Espinosa beat.
01:08:59
Cokeley Brothers
Espinosa beat Sparks.
01:09:01
Ryne
Riddle.
01:09:02
Cokeley Brothers
Riddle. Look
01:09:04
Reese
Here we go. Got it. Missouri didn't have, but Marysville did. And he is. He is the older brother to Max and Brady Rourke.
01:09:14
Ryne
Told you so.
01:09:16
Cokeley Brothers
at you guys. And then
01:09:18
Reese
Look at that. Look
01:09:22
Cokeley Brothers
Luke rass Rasmussen beat Koi Hopke.
01:09:26
Ryne
You nailed it.
01:09:28
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
01:09:29
Ryne
Describe the final seconds of the Rasmussen-Hopke match.
01:09:33
Cokeley Brothers
hop keys up he's winning the match by one and he's on top rasmussen is like kind of trying to like like flop his hips over on top of him and in the waning seconds of the match it happens and he holds him and he holds hop key on his back and he gets a reversal he gets too near fall
01:09:52
Ryne
Two and two.
01:09:58
Cokeley Brothers
South Dakota State wins the duel. The crowd is sad because it's at Minnesota. um And yeah, that that
Past Events and Team Performances
01:10:10
Reese
Is Rasmussen a transfer?
01:10:11
Cokeley Brothers
is...
01:10:15
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
01:10:15
Ryne
No, he's not. Rasputin?
01:10:20
Ryne
That's what it sounds that's what it sounds like to me.
01:10:23
Reese
Rawr, rawr, Rasputin!
01:10:27
Cokeley Brothers
um
01:10:27
Reese
Rasputin is love machine.
01:10:30
Cokeley Brothers
Max McAnally looked good. The Minnesota team is interesting because like it feels like some of their guys should be...
01:10:37
Reese
This is like
01:10:39
Reese
This is pretty surprising because this is like they one of their better teams for sure.
01:10:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i just feel like some of their guys in the middle are just kind of faltering a little bit, wavering.
01:10:51
Reese
I say that this is one of their better teams, but then I think back to like 2013 when they were That was 2013. And 15 too, yeah.
01:10:56
Cokeley Brothers
I think back to 2015 when they could have won a title.
01:10:56
Reese
Well, 2013 would have won –
01:11:02
Cokeley Brothers
That was 2015.
01:11:02
Reese
in fifteen two yeah well they no twenty thirteen they would have won
01:11:04
Ryne
Yeah.
01:11:07
Ryne
If the Dardanes didn't fumble.
01:11:07
Reese
if ah
01:11:11
Reese
Yeah.
01:11:12
Ryne
Oh, no, that was twenty fourteen
01:11:12
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
01:11:13
Reese
front was Something happened in 2013 that was like, you know, oh, was it, what's his face?
01:11:21
Ryne
was 2014. 2014, Nick Dardanes was the two seed and he got beat real early at 49.
01:11:27
Reese
I don't remember what it was exactly, but Jimmy, what's his face? That 2014, wasn't it?
01:11:34
Ryne
Mm-hmm. Jimmy English.
01:11:34
Cokeley Brothers
Jimmy Gillibon?
01:11:36
Ryne
No.
01:11:36
Cokeley Brothers
James English?
01:11:37
Reese
Jimmy, James in English.
01:11:38
Ryne
James English.
01:11:38
Reese
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was 2014.
01:11:41
Ryne
2014. That was the year. Minnesota should have upset them. Because I think in 2013 was when ah e Oklahoma State could have upset Penn State.
01:11:49
Reese
They were in 2013 too. In 2014. 2014.
01:11:52
Ryne
But the heavyweight didn't didn't win.
01:11:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Penn State won 2014. Penn State with and a half in Minnesota took second with one oh four
01:12:02
Ryne
Nick Dardanes.
01:12:03
Reese
twenty fourteen
01:12:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. 2014.
01:12:10
Ryne
Nick Dardanes.
01:12:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, South Dakota state. What a win for them. That's big for their team. Um,
01:12:20
Ryne
Bring back J-Rob. Yeah, I said it.
01:12:24
Reese
Damn.
01:12:25
Ryne
I'm just kidding. Eggum's doing a great job. i was i was That was just a joke. It was a joke.
01:12:31
Reese
I don't know.
01:12:31
Ryne
I really do like Eggum.
01:12:32
Reese
We don't believe you.
01:12:36
Ryne
Okay, Mom. Mom does that.
01:12:36
Reese
Clip it. Clip what he said.
01:12:40
Cokeley Brothers
Chat.
01:12:43
Cokeley Brothers
ah Yeah.
01:12:44
Reese
don't believe this guy.
01:12:44
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
01:12:45
Ryne
clip your wings, Reese.
01:12:45
Cokeley Brothers
is that Is that the show?
01:12:47
Ryne
No more flying for you.
01:12:51
Cokeley Brothers
that the show?
01:12:51
Reese
What?
01:12:52
Ryne
said, i'm going to clip your wings, Reese. No more flying for you.
01:12:55
Reese
with my wings? You can't, dude.
01:12:56
Ryne
Yeah.
01:12:57
Reese
I'm a peacock.
01:12:58
Ryne
You got to reply. Is that the show for you, Sam?
01:13:01
Cokeley Brothers
All right, everybody. Thank you for listening.
01:13:04
Reese
This is all for you.
01:13:05
Ryne
You don't have anything to say to the listeners slash viewers?
01:13:06
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you for watching.
01:13:08
Reese
You have nothing else.
01:13:10
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, I get, once again, Michael Caliendo, I beg for mercy.
01:13:10
Ryne
No updates? No big news? No big news you want to tell anyone?
Sammy's Personal Milestone
01:13:18
Cokeley Brothers
I bought a car.
01:13:19
Ryne
Sammy bought a car his first time. Congratulations, Sammy.
01:13:22
Reese
Woo!
01:13:26
Ryne
It's a big, it is a big deal.
01:13:26
Cokeley Brothers
Thanks.
01:13:28
Ryne
Buying your, using your own money, like buying the car. You know what I'm saying? You had minimal help from Faja.
01:13:42
Ryne
That's what I mean. It's a big deal. You didn't have any help.
01:13:44
Reese
Big deal.
01:13:44
Ryne
It's like, you know, it's step in into adulthood.
Adulthood Jokes and Farewell to Listeners
01:13:51
Cokeley Brothers
I'm 26 years old.
01:13:54
Reese
I'm a man.
01:13:54
Ryne
I know.
01:13:54
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you everybody.
01:13:56
Ryne
I'm a big boy.
01:13:56
Cokeley Brothers
I'm in a...
01:13:57
Reese
I'm 26. I'm a man.
01:13:57
Cokeley Brothers
I'm in a... Oh, dude.
01:14:00
Ryne
Do I look like a real boy now, Papa?
01:14:02
Cokeley Brothers
No, I'm thinking of... I'm thinking of love The Lonely Island.
01:14:04
Reese
You can't talk to him that way. Talk to me that way. I'm a man.
01:14:09
Cokeley Brothers
I'm thinking of the lowly islands when he, when, uh, no, uh, when I took it and threw it on the ground, uh, he's like, you come here.
01:14:09
Reese
Oh, he's
01:14:12
Ryne
I'm on a boat.
01:14:16
Ryne
Chis in my pants.
01:14:20
Reese
he's talking about like a boss.
01:14:21
Ryne
Oh, like a boss.
01:14:23
Cokeley Brothers
i i go to my favorite hot dog stand. He says, you come here all the time.
01:14:26
Ryne
Like a boss.
01:14:28
Cokeley Brothers
Here's one on the house.
01:14:28
Reese
Like a boss.
01:14:31
Cokeley Brothers
What do you think I am?
01:14:31
Reese
That's like.
01:14:33
Cokeley Brothers
A charity case? I took it and threw it on the ground. And then says, I'm an adult or something like that.
01:14:37
Ryne
Like a boss.
01:14:38
Reese
Like a boss. question
01:14:40
Cokeley Brothers
Whatever. It's okay. Have a good day, everybody.
01:14:46
Ryne
Like a boss.
01:14:46
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching.
01:14:48
Ryne
Like a boss.
01:14:49
Reese
Flew into the sun.
01:14:51
Ryne
Like a boss.
01:14:51
Cokeley Brothers
Like, share, and subscribe.
01:14:51
Ryne
Like boss.
01:14:53
Cokeley Brothers
And stay tuned for hopefully some cooler, newer stuff.
01:14:54
Ryne
Like a boss.
01:14:58
Reese
Take the shit on my desk.
01:15:00
Ryne
Like a bug.