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Season 2- Episode 14- Saint Matthew (Premiership Round 5)
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For being a sandwich weekend, that was pretty good stuff in the Premiership. Your favorite American rugby boneheads are back to bring a smile to that face...well at least a giggle we hope. We start with a tip of our caps to the Rainbow Laces campaign that we saw quite prevalent all weekend. Next we dive into what in this universe is going on down at Welford Road? We dip into the responsibility of the downturn of the mighty Tigers and where to go from here. Do you have a bit of a headache in choosing players for your TRM team? We do a little either or down each position to give you some help on that decision. Of course, we go through all the action this past weekend and look ahead to the start of the home and home rounds of Champions Cup. Kick back, tune in and laugh along with us.
Have a question about your lineup on as the clock ticks down for game week start? Ask us questions via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar, or by using #AskTFRY. Send us your thoughts for the show and questions for upcoming shows via e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via e-mail, twitter or by rating/reviewing the pod on Apple Podcast.
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Transcript
Introduction and Rugby Matches Preview
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, how's it going? It's the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Contain yourself over there, young man. No, I will not. I hope everybody is ready for the back-to-backs coming up in Europe and everybody enjoyed what good rugby there was, especially the one match on Sunday there, that draw.
00:00:26
Speaker
I stand corrected. That draw that we saw with Rossignan Munster was definitely not the only draw we've seen in Champions Cup rewind last year, Beth, and Wasp drew. So my brain was clearly scrambled that day. Just that day, I don't know. Nobody pays attention. Yeah, nobody knows those facts. But yeah, anywho.
Platform Announcement and Rugby Mag Updates
00:00:47
Speaker
So let's make sure that you are checking. Let's crack some beers, first of all. I'm itching to do it. Yeah, I know. I can see you and I'm with you.
00:00:55
Speaker
before I spill shit. Oh, yeah, not over the computer. Yeah, probably not over computers, but also like every time I try and like do the one handed thing.
00:01:06
Speaker
with like beer it goes awry if i do it with like seltzer water no big deal you know soda no big deal beer just it either blows up everywhere or it just spills everywhere i'm like yeah anyway make sure that you that you guys subscribed on apple podcast google play spotify we're on tune in now which i believe is the amazon one i don't know that for a fact but anyway
00:01:31
Speaker
It was one that was listed heavily for a lot of people that were listening to podcasts. So I was like, all right, I guess we got to get on that. Just give us one more avenue. If you're trying to listen to us, you have no excuse. We're pretty much everywhere. Yeah, I think we got one or two more things we can probably submit to. One final frontier. But yeah, I mean, so it's everywhere. So go look us up on your favorite podcast app. We're probably there.
00:01:55
Speaker
Um, so make sure that you're getting your rugby mag upgrades. Obviously it was a big help this weekend. There were a lot of names that got changed out because of Europe. Some teams are competing, some teams aren't. So, you know, a lot of big names ended up in the boys in black. Yeah. And also didn't help. Uh, you know, thanks a lot saints for, uh, I know all the early drops. Yeah. You kind of had to see the laws you should have seen coming. Yeah. Bigger was a surprise. Bigger was a surprise.
00:02:23
Speaker
Yep, for sure. Big thanks to our friend, we should be mentioning more often, but big thanks to our friend George.
Fantasy Rugby and Inclusivity in Sports
00:02:32
Speaker
The fancy rugby geek, he participated in our Ask TFRY and gave us a little bit of a hand there this past Friday. And it sounds like we gave people some pretty sound advice, so you're welcome. Yeah, that was the one you said, Captain Thacker. Yeah, listen, I wasn't that wrong. No, I mean, there's no wrong answer.
00:02:51
Speaker
51 and 65. It's like that's like yeah, that's really just beggars being choosers. Exactly. It's like oh my god, kind of one of the Like oh, I have a problem Do I? Very good question. It was a good it was a legit question asking about Pia Tal versus stacker Who does who to captain and it's like what whichever one you want? It worked point is it worked right? But yeah, thanks tank. Thanks for George as always he put he pumps out great content. So if you
00:03:20
Speaker
Don't want to listen to us, but you want to read something or you're sick listening to us and you want to go read something Go read fancy rugby geek. He's got loads of good content on on his website Thanks a lot George
00:03:32
Speaker
So just a little acknowledge to the Rainbow Laces campaign this past week. I continue to love this. This is something that you don't see here in the US really. It's not something that is prevalent. And I very, very, very much believe in it. This is an all inclusive sport. This is not just for the few, it is for the many. So we believe in inclusivity here at TFRY.
00:03:56
Speaker
And I love it. I love seeing the rainbow going down the stripes of the referees. I love the rainbow flags. I think Rory Hutchinson had some of the rainbow come off on his jersey this past weekend because it was on the field. Still really awesome stuff. So yeah, my hats off to Gallagher Premiership for putting that out there and promoting it.
00:04:17
Speaker
I know the I think that primarily usually does it a little bit too. So that's usually fun to see soccer. I just I think there there should be more movements like this. You know, unfortunately here in the U.S., we are kind of stupid when it comes to this stuff. There's also a bit backwards. There's also a lot of machismo around our sports.
00:04:36
Speaker
And that that's yeah that that inclusivity is not you know, it's not Everyone's welcome. It's more of a fit in or gta. Yeah I don't like it. No, I don't like that so much either. It's but that culture is changing um In sports certainly because especially when you don't have much of a choice Yeah about who you play with and a lot of times and so you just have to end up loving the person you're playing with and oh
00:05:02
Speaker
You're not so bad just because you're different from me. You know, we see a lot of, you know, the sports end up driving a lot of our changes long, but it's a long term rather than trying to celebrate our differences over in the US. So good to see other places are a little bit better about that. Yeah. So we support it 100% over here. Big time. So hats off to you guys.
Coaching Changes Critique
00:05:27
Speaker
Well, all right, so let's get into this. I don't want to get too much into the game itself, but I do want to talk about welfare grow and what the fuck is going on there because, you know, say what you want about the guys that are playing in the Tigers uniforms or whoever there is something up there.
00:05:45
Speaker
But here's the thing that I want to just kind of throw the caveat into. I hate the fact that there's so much fucking turnover in the NFL and the NBA and the Premier League. There is an average now of one to two clubs a year in the Premier League that will change their coach twice.
00:06:02
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's so you know i'm a huge fan of let's let's see if we can get this thing to work give it a shot and and Murphy's only jordie's only had a year A little more a little less than a year or a little more than a year now actually Yeah, because he took over after a week right after we won. Yeah, so yeah
00:06:19
Speaker
It's not something I'm a huge fan of. Give them time, and yes, they might go down. Deal with it, you know? Newcastle didn't get rid of... Why am I planking on his name now? Dean Richards? Yes.
00:06:35
Speaker
So I I I don't know why People are so and I get there's there's money loss and that's part of the thing now once you start affecting the bottom line Yeah, that's you know, there's there's talk of uh, uh an nfl owner who had just bought his team um
00:06:54
Speaker
kind of starting to feel his way around the game, and goes to a game kind of mid-season or whatever, looks around, and there's nobody in his stadium. And it's like, ah, I've got to fire the coach. That's the first thing to think of, is this guy is, there's no fans here. I'm losing money. He's got to go. It's unfortunate it's got to come down. It's not one person's fault. It never is. Never is. So that's unfortunate that it has to go that way. But moving past this,
00:07:23
Speaker
What's wrong with, and there's certainly coaching issues at Leicester. I have an idea. Buy Mike Ford. Done. There you go. You fired a coach and you don't have to get rid of Jordan. Maybe it's not Jordy that needs to go. He's doing the best he can, but there's like, watching the game, I mean, we got to that one stat.
00:07:45
Speaker
Oh, yeah, the the playmaker stat the balance but that goes to and that has nothing, you know that That can only work the playmaker stat when you look at you know, nine the plays off the nine off the ten off the twelve You can only get off the twelve if you have a structure in place. Yes, or you just chuck the ball around Those are the two options. Hopefully not the second have a structure in place. Chuck the ball around. Yeah, hopefully not the second one
00:08:08
Speaker
Please they're not chucking the ball around and they don't have any structure in place. It's the first guy gets it He looks okay. Where's my support inside outside? All right. Good. We're just gonna tack the line with these three Yeah, and I'm sorry, but you know that might work at some of the lower levels of you know of rugby over over some time I mean works pretty decently for Ireland, but
00:08:29
Speaker
That's and that's but that's it also at a much higher level the the players that they're using and they're they're tailored to that I don't want like 95 pound fly half You know 20 times a game I'm interested in that
00:08:46
Speaker
So it's like that they they need to develop some sort of structure you look at their their players off the ball And there's a first receiver. There might be a second receiver, but there's nobody else out wide Everybody's kind of they're like a little kitty soccer team. Everybody's kind of chasing the ball around
00:09:01
Speaker
Throw a net over
Leicester Tigers Issues and Player Rumors
00:09:02
Speaker
them and these are good players. We're not you know, I as much as I shit on Lester a lot They don't have bad players. They just don't use them. Yeah Well, you have a select few players that you dislike but it's not on the whole it's not all it's not the whole team obviously No, it's not But you know, I have players I like and dislike on every team it's but Lester I just don't like cuz they're they're
00:09:22
Speaker
I can't figure them. What the hell are they? Yeah, well, they have no identity. That's for sure. Yeah, they definitely don't have an identity. You know, there's there's definitely players on that team that I really like. I like Guy Thompson. I like Callum Green Callum, a phone. He's an excellent player in my opinion as well. You know, he definitely is a solid do the work type of guy. They have Jonah, Jonah Holmes, unfortunately, Jonah Holmes. We'll get to you in a second. I really like him. So they have some good stuff going on with that team.
00:09:52
Speaker
They just need to figure out they need to figure out who they are. They really do and unfortunately and I I do not like Mike Ford myself and that's why I said his name to begin with I really don't and I don't think people understand what it is that so
00:10:10
Speaker
Here's the thing. Unfortunately, the likely thing that's going to happen is Jordan Murphy gets fired. And that sucks. And especially in this day and age, because that's how it goes. I still believe heavily in give the guy a few years. If he really screws it up hard, if like if Lester go down, but they don't bounce right back up, all right, can him. Fair enough.
00:10:29
Speaker
All right. I understand. Dean Richard is more than likely going to be bouncing right back up with new castle despite All their all their leavings because you know, the championship is kind of top head is what it is Yeah, you know, it's three teams that are racing for it usually and it's usually the team that just got dropped that ends up going right back up I'll be I'll be kind of cheering when there's a day that happened that the team doesn't go up but mike ford forced out
00:10:52
Speaker
God help me. I can't remember the bass coach, the bass coach name that he forced out, but he forced a guy out at Bath when Ford was there, when George Ford was there. And then, you know, took that team over. Yeah, they got to a final and win it, you know, and then he went to too long. They
00:11:10
Speaker
hated him there right oh my god did they hate him there yeah he went I think it was too long they went to France either way and he went to France and whatever team it was it was either too long or harassing I think it was too long they hated him there either way it doesn't matter who it was they were all like get the fuck out like they were just sick of him so
00:11:28
Speaker
But it's, and it sounds like that might be the same case here. I mean, I'm not saying it's, it's Ford's problem, but look at, I mean, they're, they're having a, the same issue that wasps had and are continuing to have with players leaving. I mean, just this week and the past couple of weeks, we've seen, uh, rumors and pretty solid rumors around, um, managed to a lagi leaving. We see rumors around Johnny May. Where's he going to end up? Um, we see, uh, Alice Genge.
00:11:55
Speaker
On the you know on the verge of a premiere version. I mean switch. Yeah there I think there's one more that I'm missing too and But that's three keep not only you know, what's three big players for them? There's a three nationally, you know, three three England England players. Yeah, and they're saying yeah, I'm looking to move on that that's
00:12:16
Speaker
That was his last match. He's just hanging him up. He's done. I mean, the money's in France and Japan. And if you don't see yourself as a part of the 2023 team in France, why are you going to stick around?
00:12:35
Speaker
Here's the thing, if you have an attachment to that club that's very deep, you have no reason to bail. And you see that with a lot of the clubs, that there is definitely a deep attachment to some of these guys. Like, you know, Joe Launchbury back for an extension, Ted Hill re-signed for Worcester. Ted Hill's very young, obviously, but Launchbury being an older guy,
00:12:54
Speaker
could have easily just said, later, I'm going to go make some boogoo bucks because he could. He could. Believe me, French teams just throw money at players. It's a name. Oh, it doesn't matter that he's long past his prime. It's that, no, he's a name. We'll take him. Right. So that is a thing. And the fact that he said, no, I'm going to stay right here. I like this place. So that's good on him. And obviously, Woss have done something to convince him.
Player Loyalty and Contract Extensions
00:13:21
Speaker
So if you really have a culture and a team that your players believe in, they're not ready to bounce that early or that fast. And apart from looking for playing time, which none of these guys are definitely looking for playing time. I mean, but like, yeah, L.S. Kench is 24. And he's a baby. That's why he's doing a premiership switch. You know, he's not looking to go cash in. No, but I mean, why?
00:13:43
Speaker
Yeah, and you know, maybe he's assuming that the team's going to get relegated, but you can wait till after the season on that one anyway. You would think so. Yeah. But he's already looking at where was he looking? Gloucester, Gloucester, I believe.
00:14:00
Speaker
If you're Lester, if you're the Tigers, you're saying, why is this young, promising prop looking to go somewhere else? Yeah, it's terrifying. Johnny May's 29. Yeah, he's maybe looking on... We'll see. That's kind of a we'll see thing. That's on the edge. If he's really committed to England, then he'll find a place.
00:14:18
Speaker
Even if it's not lost her to go right into a laggy 28. He might be same idea Yeah, he's played for England. He's played in the World Cup a couple He's probably not gonna play in the next one So that kind of makes sense that he's moving on and switching codes even but yeah, possibly switching It's one thing when you're looking at guys who are later in their career and they're looking to move on Okay, that happens, but you're looking at a young up-and-coming stud joining them in
00:14:43
Speaker
Getting the fuck out. That's there's something wrong there with the culture of the team. Yeah, so it's it's on the field and it's apparently off the field Yeah, so there it's a multi-prong issue. It's not as much as I don't like Lester. I feel bad for them I want to like them, you know, they're they should be like they're a legendary club, right? People know the name Lester Tigers if they know rugby for their the majority of it, you know, it's a shame where they are and and that that
00:15:08
Speaker
you know i i like having teams that i don't like that are foils not like i hate this team and oh they're just gonna get their shit kicked out of them that's not fun that's no fun there's no fun in that definitely no fun in that i'm not having fun this year watching wasps and lester get the shit kicked out of them every week yeah i know it's just not it's not amusing yeah it's much more amusing when there's like hope it's now sad for them let's crush it it's now sad it's like ah
00:15:34
Speaker
I can't help but feel bad for you. I don't like this. It feels gross. What is wrong with me? So there is definitely something going on at Wellford Row. It probably doesn't stop and end with Jordy Murphy. It probably cuts a lot deeper. And I even, I think even could he said, yeah, you know, I'm a friend, a friend of Jordy's, but I don't believe this goes. And I believe this goes much deeper than him. And I think that's true. I mean,
00:15:56
Speaker
This team put had that big score put on him by I think it was north hampden in that opening weekend Was that where it was last year? Yeah, I don't remember who's north hampden, but they got they got smoked. I remember that uh You know that and that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't him at all, right? It was that matt taylor. Was that who that was? But yeah
00:16:16
Speaker
There's a problem. There's a problem. It doesn't stop in them with him. It's much much deeper Let it let him try and milk it out and kick Mike Ford the fuck out of that trust me. It'll be better for ya
00:16:28
Speaker
Injury news. Lots of injury news. Yeah, some unfortunate injury news. Just kind of alphabetical here. Dan Thomas came off early for Bristol with a groin injury. He's going to be out for a couple months, it looks like. Month minimum, I'd say. Yeah. So you can, I mean, if you had him on your team, I commend you because I love Dan Thomas, but he's just not somebody that performs in and out. But either way, don't blank on him being on the field any time soon. I guess Juan Deong picked up an injury in training.
00:16:55
Speaker
I think that's what it was. So either way, he's out for about a month or so. And so that's bad news for me. I think I had him on one of my FRD teams. Obviously, it's going to be a problem for for wass as well. You can see it in the in the matches past weekend. Jonah Holmes left the left Luster Luster's match earlier. We we mentioned him already. He left their match pretty early and he's probably going to be out for a little bit. So keep keep your eyes peeled on that.
00:17:25
Speaker
Uh, love joy the best name in rugby. They say it in the broad. Yes. Love joy. He's out. He's out for a little bit. Looks like he, uh, he left his match early, which caused problems, which we'll talk about, but that happened. Uh, Jackson Ray left the Saracens match. I mean,
00:17:41
Speaker
If only they had a guy that replaced him. Oh wait too late. Yeah, they're okay there. Yeah, they're okay there But yeah, he did lead the match. I think it was he left for concussion didn't he? Yeah, okay So hopefully he's better if not after this week next weekend, right? I think so you'll probably see him back in time if you have him in your team and in general get better jacks we love you, but
00:18:02
Speaker
Will Rowland's, oh man, heartbreaker, he had to leave. He is such a good young lock and you could see it. That changed the game. It did. There was so, like, because he is such a good ball carrier for them and we'll get to them in a second, but you know, just a good young lock and you'll love his workout. It's weird to say in a 38-3 game, it changed the game. Yeah, it definitely had an impact, no doubt about it.
00:18:24
Speaker
So hopefully he's all right. Charlie Matthews got subbed off too, so that didn't, I'm not sure, convinced that wasn't entry related, but maybe it wasn't, and I completely missed the boat on that. Either way, this problem's at wasp, so spoiler alert. Let's get to...
00:18:43
Speaker
The battle at the wreck, the battle at the bog, good lord. This field keeps getting turned and turned and turned, poor groundkeepers. We talked about it, starting week one. We were talking about this field and it getting torn the fuck up. It did not look good. I mean, you saw at one point, I think, didn't Elliot Daly went to kick the touch and he had to like figure out a place where he could actually get a solid... Yeah, T.T. was trying to help him out and stamp some ground back into the...
00:19:11
Speaker
Get back into it. That was just falling apart. Yes, it was. But there was a match being played at the same time. Unfortunately for the players who had to play on that. This was a full noise team from Saracens, and it was definitely a little bit of shaking in the boots from the Bath men, because they were like, oh, that is a full noise Saracens team. That is not good. And I felt like Bath kind of turtled a little bit.
00:19:40
Speaker
Probably I mean you got to know that you know, you're playing at Harrison's at home It doesn't it doesn't matter where you are. But even even at home Place that they've beaten Saracens pretty much every time it's not but it's not you're not gonna win without getting over the line Oh, yeah, you gotta get over the line. No doubt
00:19:55
Speaker
And they went for the four penalty kicks rather than trying to go for the corner and trying to score. They kind of, they cheaped out. There was a point where I think after the, I think probably after the second, because they went tit for tat, and then I think by the time, I think it was the third one that Priestland hit, I think by that time,
00:20:15
Speaker
Hit I was like, I think I would try and figure out something else to do here, right? I can't remember. I don't think that was right in the front of the post So at that point it's probably worth going for the corner anyway So it's in yeah, it's where games change when you make decisions like that against a team that
00:20:31
Speaker
Sorry, Beth, is probably better than you. I don't think anybody's gonna argue that. I'm not trying to be arrogant here or anything, but you just have to know what's in front of you. Objectively, they're better than you. You have to know what's in front of you. Right. And I think Beth realized a little too late. And to not even bring on Freddie Burns is a bit of a head scratcher for me. Yeah. I don't think...
00:20:59
Speaker
I don't think priestland had his best game outside of kicking. So Yeah, the that well saris's defense suffocated. I did well, I mean, so I want to I want to give a shout out here, uh to uh Someone i've been following on twitter recently and I all of you should be too. Uh, and i'm probably gonna butcher his name because it's welsh
00:21:18
Speaker
And so I'm sorry. They have funny things going on over there. I think it's Geraint Davis. He puts together clips, and it's fascinating to watch some of their coaching clips. And I'll make sure he gets a shout out in the one way tweet out the link to the thing.
00:21:42
Speaker
He's, but he shows that like little clips and then shows what's happening and why things are happening the way they are. And one of them was that there was the duality of the attack. He was showing Beth when they got there.
00:21:59
Speaker
They had like 20 phases, right? Or, you know, probably between 30 meters and like 15 meters from the Saracens try line. OK, they had like a shitload of phases and didn't really go anywhere. Like they went in that. I remember that. 15 years. And it ended with the penalty that I didn't. I do. I definitely disagree with. But whatever. Chudley did a good job of selling it when he swapped over. Yeah. And the referee gave it to him. It was a little bit cynical, but the ref gave it to him anyway.
00:22:30
Speaker
Showing that there's really nothing happened Beth have no options. They did same thing. We were just talking about with Lester They're just kind of throwing a guy in and maybe making a tip-off pass and saris are all set They're like, okay, like you want to do this. We're set for your attack. We're ready. No big deal You're not getting through us and then you showed the Saracens attack I think it was shortly afterwards when they finally when they got the try and it was all this
00:22:51
Speaker
the changing of You know of patterns and and saying okay We're gonna attack short and then attack wide and then attack short here and then attack wide and then moving the Beth players all around the pitch rather than just trying to find a gap to force their way through the Saracens Smarted their way through for a trust and that's the difference is and that's kind of again what I was talking about with Lester is you got to be able to
00:23:18
Speaker
To show that variety and attack and have all your options because that's because the gaps are not going to be in tight The gaps are going to be wider and then it's not till you attack with that with the gaps appear in tight, right? So that's what he shows there in the clip. It was fast. It was fascinating really good stuff that you can see you as you're watching but sometimes sometimes it's stuff you don't but I liked the comparison you put together a clip of
00:23:40
Speaker
one right after the other. And just having multiple levels when you're on attack is makes such a huge difference. And even if you're just not a wide passing team, but still having multiple levels in attack makes such a difference. And and again, going back to the whole not bringing on Freddie Burns, bring another playmaker on, you know.
00:23:58
Speaker
Homer Ruck and Do uni and McConaughey are all good back three guys But you need to bring somebody on that can make that extra play and if one of them's having a bit of a stinker Which I guarantee you at least one of these guys was and Homer was dangerous He had a couple line breaks and then it looks and shut them down like that defense that Looks looks like the old deli did a really good job there So did uh, how was it?
00:24:21
Speaker
Was that wiggles worth at the time? I think um, basically shutting down the homer's Homer's line break, right and not only that but shutting down the options so he had nowhere to pass too and daily was just able to make the tackle like Little things like that are what separate, you know that that's what bath are missing there. They have the players They just don't have the structure in place right now. Um, so the players players are making their plays but
00:24:47
Speaker
Let's talk about two guys and then we'll move on. Nick Tompkins was like a pinball as he usually is, just breaking tackles left and right and still finding ways to get forward. He got on front foot, we didn't score off of it unfortunately, but getting darn close and it's because he's able to break tackles and make people look silly.
00:25:05
Speaker
Because you know, he you think you have him and he just wriggles out and or bounces off you and he keeps going Love the kid. Obviously we you know, I've I've very much confessed my love for Nick Tompkins over over the over the past year plus But the but then how about like people have made a lot about Owen Farrell's tackle technique How about the pop he put in? Whoo?
00:25:32
Speaker
I was like- I even used his arms. There was nothing wrong with that technique whatsoever. And it's, who's that, you stop cold? I think so. I was like, ooh, that's a good hit on a big boy too. That's not on some little scrum half. That's a big dude to be smacking backwards. So much for that tackle technique right there. Right. That's well done. Saracens take care of business 25, 12, and they start to inch themselves towards the black and trying to get themselves out of the red.
00:25:57
Speaker
We'll see what kind of team they put out this weekend and they'll kind of be very telling us to what they plan on doing going forward between the two competitions and first game on Saturday
00:26:11
Speaker
I know you didn't watch that one. So, uh, let's go right to it. Okay. Worcester. Worcester sale. Um, this turned on a dime with the jail Dupree or red card. Luke Pierce was the referee in this game and he was excellent. He even, and it was a, here's the thing. Here's the problem that I understand it was a bit of a soft one.
00:26:31
Speaker
Um, if JL Dupree is not in front of the runner to begin with, then this becomes a non issue because he doesn't have to throw the, he doesn't feel like he has to throw the shoulder. He ends up putting it right into the beak of, I think, um, Kitchener. Uh, just like, yep, that is right off the old schnozola. There is no denying that. I have to try to hit someone who's Kitchener size. Yeah. I mean, I realize Dupree's not short either. Right. He's not short, but still do. Yeah.
00:26:58
Speaker
So that kind of is where it turned. Faf obviously started this thing off hot for sale with a try and then getting up and getting a little bit unnecessarily scrappy. And I understand Weir went down on him a little bit unnecessarily too, but you've made him pay with the ultimate price by scoring a try. Show your boots. There's no reason to keep going. I think Pierce wanted to reverse the decision really and be like, you know what? You don't get the effing try. You're going to give a penalty against you instead, shithead.
00:27:24
Speaker
Yeah, that's there's no need for that. It's just if you want to give him like a little bit of a shove or something like that That's fine. But to like grab him like pull the back of his jersey like dude try and dump him over the Fafis is not he's a good scrum half but
00:27:42
Speaker
He acts as though he's like god's gift to rugby and definitely not and he's not that he's not he's not he's not nearly as good as he acts like he is and It's it's really annoying to have that to see that ego. That's that's very not rugby I guess is where it comes down to right is um He's just kind of starting shit just for the sake of starting shit. So i'm glad he fucking lost this weekend after that There you go. Um Worcester did start to turn through the gears a little bit better
00:28:10
Speaker
Ashley Beck scores one right through the middle, but basically Looked really good. I thought it looked like Mills. I think Mills adventure was gonna have no I think it was Mills Mills was gonna Mills came on for venture. That's why I had them confused I think Mills was gonna have one and then but then they said there was an obstruction on general against John Ross Remember who they said yet in front of him
00:28:31
Speaker
Anyway, and one more note, we'll move on. I would dare say that Steve Diamond would be smart to make Acavander River earn his spot back. He's not played that well. We talked about some of his issues that he's having come line up time.
00:28:48
Speaker
Really, Rob Weber looks like he's useful in the loose and he's also a much better line-out thrower I know Akker's big thing is he's useful in the loose and he can you know, he's a pretty good ball carrier Rob Weber doesn't look nearly that bad. He looks pretty
00:29:03
Speaker
Certainly serviceable is not South African. I know right seems to be a theme with this team But yeah, I think the I think they see down would be served well to at least give Rob Weber a little bit of a run because ocker I think has had his run and I don't think he's done that well in that time. So I think it's time to
00:29:22
Speaker
go back to the guy that started for you last year and did pretty well last year if I remember right. I don't think I'm making this up in my brain. So I would go back to Rob Weber and make Akbar and remember earn a starting spot or wait for Rob Weber to really screw up. Hopefully that isn't the thing that happens because that just sucks. Yeah. So Worcester take care of business and they get themselves I believe they're fourth now in the premiership.
00:29:44
Speaker
Oh, I had 20 to 13 20 to 13 over over sale say oh, what's our fourth? Yep Wow Who knew I mean early days still yeah, there's a week five, but I used to go who I mean to see Still getting back into it. Yeah, so there's yeah this it's early, but hey, you know you're there Yeah, I mean if you can stay there, it's good on you, right? Let's go to a very unfortunate kind of an unfortunate result Exeter was Yikes
00:30:14
Speaker
This was not it was close wasps really I mean, it was 10 three at half, right?
00:30:22
Speaker
So it's, um, yeah. And, and Roland's was struggling even before then. He had to come off in the first half. It was, I don't know. I didn't see what happened, but he just, yeah, he was struggling. Yeah. Who's, um, not good. He was struggling. And, and to be fair, um, Exeter did put out kind of a depowered team. So no Slade, no hog, no Johnny Hill, uh, both Simmons started. Um, yeah.
00:30:47
Speaker
Yandl has a broken forum. Oh, that was that's one of the guys I want to say thanks news that didn't seem to make it to our shores that Yandl actually broke his forearm. Yeah I did see him last week and actually commented on it didn't right I obviously didn't recall no and seeing it I didn't see any follow-up to that though. That's the that's the thing is really you know true that that I'll give you So I I wish I wish I'd remembered that that was happening. Yeah, but that was that was that was a rough one to see for sure and
00:31:19
Speaker
Anyway, I mean this game this game was was a game until basically the 50th minute And then the sequence there so it's 10-3. Mm-hmm Exeter you have a lot or in a penalty driving mall scores that the Luke Howard Dickey try and
00:31:36
Speaker
Um, well so They're down 17 three now Wasps respond because you know, you want to score real quick right afterwards. What is what do wasps do? They kick the restart directly to touch right? Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh god. What a hammerhead and now Here here's uh, I mean, sorry to interrupt. Yeah. Um, here's my like, you know, otherworldly baffling question What the fuck was jacob? Um, how are you doing starting in this game?
00:32:02
Speaker
They like him. I know, but like better than Lima. So I guess so. That's so either Lima. So has become the biggest bus signing since they basically since they got him or I'm seeing I think there was even I thought I saw something where even soap log is like, no, I actually I do like it here. Everything's cool. Like nothing's bad. Is there a rumor that he's going to leave? I think there's yeah, I think there's a rumor that that or whatever that it's not working out.
00:32:27
Speaker
Um, I that that's I mean just hearing things i'm just i'm seeing whispers That's all i'm saying. I heard things the rumor mill. I don't know about that. Ah, man, like But he's so he's he's an all black 10. Yeah if if he's not working
00:32:44
Speaker
Which and I don't think it's him. I like as far as attitude and you know, I know he's a he wants to play He's a guy that loves to play. It's why he actually was sick of not playing for the all-box. He's like I can't sit here and be A backup 10 for the rest of my life. So I'm gonna go, you know and just play right? Maybe it's maybe it's that they want to see what Umaga is gonna do against
00:33:08
Speaker
a top tier competition. This was not this was not the right time to roll that out. Oh boy. So he takes it directly to touch um again penalty at the scrum and guess where we are? Exeter taking all the such going and then they end up um oh yeah that then they have the so uh so this is all after the the try that makes it 17 three kick directly to touch penalty at the scrum
00:33:32
Speaker
They... Exeter kicks to the corner. Exeter get over in the mall, but it's held up or in the whatever in the play right afterwards. In the scrum, the wasps collapse and Kieran Brooks gets his yellow card. In the next scrum, penalty to Exeter and penalty try to Exeter and it's 24-3. So that sequence, you know, you can't respond like that. That's very poor response. Kicking to touch, penalty at the scrum.
00:33:57
Speaker
There's no other way around it. That's that's that's the game. That's a terrible sequence. There's no other way around it That that is poor like i'm, sorry if there's they so here's the thing I see the the wasp Squad and I think
00:34:14
Speaker
This looks like an awesome squad. They've done some good stuff. I'm not saying luster squad is any worse But there's just some better pieces that are in in place here with the wasps and they're Just as bad if not worse like I test, you know, I know score scoreboard says one thing and or another but just I test i'm like What is going on here? Yeah, I don't know I can't begin to answer
00:34:39
Speaker
Steenson steps in for his first prime action the whole year, which says a lot about Joe Simmons and the job he's done. Something like he hasn't missed a kick yet. Maybe he's missed one. Like he didn't miss one until like last weekend, maybe. I was like, woo. And if we're talking on the Exeter side, I have to make up for a player that I've been trashing. I didn't trash, no, I'm sorry. That's not fair to me. To be fair to me. I've been, I kind of rode Tom of Flaherty a little bit.
00:35:07
Speaker
um for a while for a little bit because i saw him getting the ball a lot but not doing anything with it uh that has changed yeah he figures slightly he's figured out where the trial line is right and he's figured out where the gaps are yeah also and so i think that you know maybe they were trying to to sort him any again young guy um
00:35:25
Speaker
Still sorting himself out at this level And and yeah that that so to me that maybe you know It's a different perspective now seeing what he's doing here and it maybe it was Get him busy early and have him learn and now he's not he's not getting the 10 to 20 carries or whatever the fuck It was that that other week when he had like 15 carries for 30 like not much. Yeah
00:35:44
Speaker
Now it's, uh, or 30 meters. Sorry. Yeah. Whatever fucking metrics. Same idea. Now he's like finding those gaps. He's maybe taking, you know, nine to 10 carries, but hitting those gaps and getting over the tri-line. So, uh, real development at a time of clarity. I want to make sure I point that out.
00:36:03
Speaker
Yeah, he's, he's definitely come on big time for this team and they need it. You know, they're, you know, Phil Dolman, Phil Dolman played in this game, but he's trying to saying bye-bye soon. You know, we know, we, we know what we see and yes, he's quality and not to knock him in any way, shape or form, but we know what's going on. We know that they need some, some youth coming through here.
00:36:23
Speaker
I want to I want to see a back three there of Armand, Covess, Armand at six, Covessic at seven and seven at eight. Yeah, that's what I want to see. Or, you know, even even Covessic at six. They love they love yours. Let's see. I don't get it. I like yours. But those three, how could you not want to just try it? Just try it on. I'm sure there'll be a point where give it a shot. Rob Baxter can't do anything but help himself and play the play the three of them.
00:36:51
Speaker
So long story short, Exeter take care of business big time, 38-3. They have got themselves firmly in the playoff hunt obviously as they usually would be.
00:37:01
Speaker
in third, which is a weird place for them, but there's still plenty of time, as we said, so they'll come good. And they're still sorting themselves out. Like I said, I've been saying, and we even saw it a lot this game, their attacking structure has been, they have their plan of get the penalty kick to touch, maul it in, or whatever, shove it in. But they also are able to play a little bit of open field, and I like it. So I think that they'll creep their way back up the standings. Yeah, for sure.
00:37:31
Speaker
Ooh, welcome to the premiership, Matt Proctor. My goodness, what a day. He had, what, two tries and a try assist? Something like that. Yo, baby, what a day for the guy. Yeah, so much for New Zealand. He looks pretty at home right here. He looked really good in this game, Northampton and Leicester. This is a huge game for the two teams, obviously, as far as rivalry goes.
00:37:57
Speaker
Lester have been I've definitely been the big brother for a long time, but they are definitely now sitting on the bottom of this thing. It's It's not pretty We had that we had the two injuries that happened at pre-match, which kind of threw everybody off like mer you happened, right? But yeah, what are you laughing at so freaking hard over there what a piece of candy in your pocket
00:38:18
Speaker
No, so I may have been high while I was watching this match. I was reading through a note that I completely forgot that I wrote. The Ratuniarwa penalty reversal after a stupid late hit on Ben Young's. My comment on that was, I do understand the sentiment.
00:38:40
Speaker
I want to hit Ben Young sometimes too. Yeah, so yeah that I just saw that and I was like, oh shit that I lost it. So sorry That's all right He did he got over to yeah happy. Oh, that was an amazing try like they I mean the big boy trains just had Text like highlight tries
00:39:00
Speaker
They were, I mean, this is probably, this is definitely a knock on the lesser defense. They were finding space everywhere. They really were. Furbank was just finding half gaps and making things look good. I'm like, dude, there's a problem here. Obviously, Nairavaro, he's looking every bit the part that he, that everybody thought he was when he was at war toss. But obviously, you and I both know that he was probably a little bit on the overweight side, probably needed to shed a little bit of timber there. And he did, he got to- He got to the- Put him on the well-scotten plan.
00:39:28
Speaker
Yeah, he got to England and shed some, you know, he didn't start well. No, but this is a guy who he was playing at, they would bring him on defense, they would bring him into 12. Right, he's a big boy. Because he couldn't, he couldn't move at wing, he couldn't, he legitimately could not defend at wing, and now he's... He's getting the head of steam, which is terrifying. Yeah, it is. It's like, oh no, this could be a terrible decision I'm about to make right here.
00:39:56
Speaker
Uh, so that was it was it was um, it was pretty Commencing from north ampton, you know, I I know luster tried to fight back a little bit and they got the guy thompson try Um, if anybody on this team deserves a try it's guy thompson. Yeah He he plays his ass off every week for this team doesn't get a ton of notice Um, I want to point out waller how to for you know, this is a prop
00:40:22
Speaker
Um, he had himself a hell of a match too. I mean the saints just top to bottom. Yeah, they really had some good games The you know, the ritini aroa had a couple of brain farts So like I said the penalty he had a couple of balls that just bounced one off of him and one like he looked at it as it was Not something you think from uh, look at that. It's not not something you expect from the big phageans No, I know they liked having the ball last time I checked. Yeah last I checked Um, uh, so yeah that that uh, the um
00:40:49
Speaker
You know hutchinson proctor collins for a bang all those guys just Just killing it. Um rhinoc obviously great match himself You could just go through basically one through 15 plus, you know, plus a few plus the rest of them Plus a few sounds played really well. Yeah. Yeah
00:41:06
Speaker
So, Northampton, take it down. 36-13, Lester are scrambling to find their footing in the Premiership. They have one win, and that was not even the prettiest one that they could have had. So, it's an uphill climb for these boys. I know there is for our guys, but
00:41:24
Speaker
they it's almost like they have the same type of climb to go there they have the climb but they also I think have the a little bit of the the Quicksand where it's like possibly, you know the one it's one thing when the you look at this, you know our guys and they have the Reinforcements coming there the cavalry has arrived and they're ready to turn it around a little bit
00:41:42
Speaker
There's no cavalry coming for Lester. They got a This is what they have. This is this is it. Yeah Look for you guys here and there missing but really yeah, this is this is their team. So we'll see what we'll see what they can come up with
00:41:55
Speaker
to the stoop The hell's going on with Gloucester number one. What the fuck was with those kids? Good God my eyes hurt Yes, I think I wrote that down too. It's like yeah, those glossy degrees are awful. They're god-awful. Yuck barf. Yeah, yeah all of them D all the above yeah. Oh, yeah
00:42:21
Speaker
What's going on? The continuity. I don't know what's going on with it. Do we need to put the Lloyd Evans into 10 for seps?
00:42:30
Speaker
He honestly like the game had a decent game of the but of the stuff I've seen from the two of them I'd say he's been the more lively of the two So that's the terrifying. Yeah, I don't know. I honestly don't know Yeah, well a lot of breakdown penalties for a foster in this one. They were not disciplined at the breakdown at all No, you know, I don't love Craig Maxwell keys, but when the referee says don't put your hands in there Don't bloody put your hands in there and there was somebody I think there was one that was Moray and he was
00:43:00
Speaker
He has hands on it, but he was really long. And I was like, I don't think he's holding his body weight there. So I think that's a fair call. And they didn't like it. And I was like, yeah, I don't think he has his weight there. He's reaching over. I think it was mustard. I was like, if you're reaching over that dude and you got your hands on the ball and you're as short as Franco Marais is, you probably don't have control of your body weight. So fair point.
00:43:23
Speaker
Like can we talk about resammit real quick? I like the kid how fucking fast is he? Oh super like he took that ball and like it between you hadn't had the angle on him had you know was should have been Ideally running stride for stride with him and resammit's like
00:43:38
Speaker
bye you're funny unfortunately kicked it directly to touch right afterwards but he really had no he was going he was honestly going to that ball was going out the either out the back or directly to touch he was going too fast to actually kick the ball yeah all right
00:43:53
Speaker
Uh, it but holy shit those wheels that that he's going to be a fun one to watch in the coming years And then on the other side the guy we are we already know and love For glosster ollie thoroughly with a pair. Yep, um getting sneaky going around the ruck for one and then one way out wide Oh, not way out wide but a little wider than than that one. That's for sure at least then it's
00:44:16
Speaker
Uh, obviously and don bran cut over which is surprise surprise people have been saying where the fuck's this been the whole year because you know People are waiting on him to really turn on he will and we know he will um ross schism got a little get a little creative around the ruck not unlike thorley, so um, and there was another cheeky little shit so this was the week of this this weekend was the the week of the cheeky little shit nines because we had um Fath being a cheeky little shit after his try chudley
00:44:43
Speaker
We had Chudley with a cheeky little shit. Oh, I fell. Even though fucking Barrett had his hair. Like, he already had the ball. So it's like that. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't like that penalty. Nope. And then we had Danny Care throwing it right into a Gloucester player who was actually rolling away. That really annoys me. And the referee's like, oh, yeah, nope.
00:45:01
Speaker
Yeah, you got a little duped in that one. Yeah, that that's come on We gotta these are things that that I feel like especially that penalty rugby has been trying to take out of the out of the game Yeah, like if he's on if he's on his stomach or side or whatever. He's not trying to get up or anything like that. So it's
00:45:16
Speaker
He was he was he was that he was getting he was kind of on his hands and knees But he was doing it to move out of the way and care just like he like everything was settled He was looking to pass it out and he just kind of picked up and threw it right at him real quick like that fail was going nowhere but into the
00:45:32
Speaker
The player on on the deck. Yeah, um, and you gotta there's no need for that um, the very cynical that I thought the uh The referee should you know that pass was not going to a player that passed it going into the the the gloster player And that's they got to get that get rid of that. There's no it kills the game. Yeah, 100% Uh, I thought I mean we there was plenty of good, you know, ebitoya doesn't look terrible. No, man He's not the guy that we thought he was he looks actually a lot better. Uh, I was
00:46:01
Speaker
I want to go back to Gloucester for one second, then we can finish up on anybody else. Is Mark Atkinson underrated?
00:46:11
Speaker
Yes, I think so. Oh, he's he's he's I mean at least He's not getting the love he deserves this year. He has been amazing this year And he's he he can he's not the best distributor But he can be the distributor that you need at 12, right? If you're trying to get a little expansive, I think they have a good transition plan It looks like in Gloucester. I mean, you know 12 trees is kind of bye-bye tail end of his career They have Atkinson ready to step. I mean it was 12 trees in Atkinson I like that combination a lot, but I also like the combination of Atkinson and Harris
00:46:41
Speaker
Yeah. That's a good group right there. And I think Atkinson's only going to get better. Yeah. No argument out of me. Back to the match though. That is a whole, every score was a lead change.
00:46:56
Speaker
Yeah, um, I think until the very end was it law that was on the comms back a ce saw c. Yeah, it was back and forth It really was until that last score by twins. Um, which they which was already in red, which didn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, but uh, and the 12 trees honk Oh, how painful was that? Well, and also I guess at this point, uh, respect the kicker kind of goes out the window in that situation Oh, man, I guess so. Well, I mean you gotta give him a little bit of
00:47:23
Speaker
Raz for having the ball fall off the tee I suppose. Yeah, you can probably quiet back down if you Yeah, I was unfortunate. Yeah, I was really it was just really rotten luck for 12 cheese That's where they all came down to right like oh, there's no way he expected the ball to fall off the tee so
00:47:38
Speaker
It was just bad luck. Gloucester are a little disciplined when they didn't need to be, and they paid for it. So 2319 to the Quinn's. Gloucester, again, another team that definitely need to start finding their footing real quick here. Yeah, that was one. I mean, yeah, it's at Quinn's. It's a tough one. That's forgivable.
00:48:00
Speaker
If they, if Gloucester are where they need to be, where they want to be, they win that match. So they got a ways to go.
00:48:09
Speaker
And then to the match of the weekend, Ashton Gate. Are you on Wayne? Yeah, indeed it was. Oh, my. I your guess was good as mine in this one. So, I mean, spoiler alert, let's let's go right down to it. Kicks killed Bristol. They were missing. They missed at least what, three or four kicks? If they had two of those, this game's over. Yeah. You know, yeah. They gave up that last. Obviously, they gave up that last one. She kind of spit the bit there.
00:48:36
Speaker
Yeah, just a bit. And it says a lot that they've kept going to him and then Owen Lloyd.
00:48:45
Speaker
He's a freaking baby too. Yeah. It says a lot that they keep going to the likes of those two. And I think they still have Ian Madigan in their ranks, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, he's somewhere in there, but I don't know if he's broken or if they're just not really into him. So if they're not, then if I'm Madigan, I'm ready to go like Japan or something. Start making make myself some money. Right. But either case, you know, Bristol played their expansive game. They looked really good.
00:49:11
Speaker
Obviously, Harry Thacker, he's back. He has returned. This is the return of Harry Thacker. Good God. That try at the end just kind of. Was that Hugh's first try for Bristol? No way. He's like, he's got three or four. All right. Oh, yeah, no way. He's a bully. I just couldn't remember. He's a bully, too. Yeah, he scored. I think he scored two in opener. OK. Yeah. Either way, he looked great. I was glad to see Alapate, that you would come back.
00:49:37
Speaker
But then we had a strange incident with this one where we had Ollie Hoskins leave for a red card. Yep. And then we had Lojo Chatwama get sent or have to come off for an injury. So we had depowered scrums and I haven't seen depowered scrums in a long time. We saw them. Oh, shit. We saw uncontested scrums.
00:49:57
Speaker
Wasn't the world cup wasn't there a match in the world cup that had uncontested? I think there was supposed to be one but they went the captain some tested I know it was close. We've seen uncontested scrums in a recent match and I can't remember when it was but yeah It's yeah, you just don't see it. I was like even then I was like, what the fuck am I see?
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, and they just basically took turns with guys hanging off the side of the scrum because they want you know, I think bonds he was the referee in this match and he said Yeah, you need to be attached because yes, this is a deep heart scum But we're not going to just let you hang out loose. You need to have eight guys in there You don't get rewarded for having having having your prop go out and then a prop go down So so two two things that I want to I want to bring up one one for the referee and the other for The team because I think I think this was huge for the team
00:50:44
Speaker
First, with Barnsy, there was a not straight, a very not straight line-up by the Irish in the second half, and early in the second half, shortly after Hughes tried, and that he allowed, because the Bears didn't contest it.
00:51:00
Speaker
And I was like, thank you. It was like, just let the game play. There's no need. They're not. The Bears aren't contesting it. So just let the play go on. Assuming it doesn't just like end up going right to the scrum half. No, it was it was it wasn't. Not not straights can probably be a little bit more lenient when there's no comp. Right. Put it this way. This was a clear not straight if the Bears had contested. Right. But because they didn't, it was like, OK, play on. Yeah, I'm a fan of letting those go.
00:51:27
Speaker
And the other is about Ollie Hoskins. Ugh. Hammerhead. Hammerhead. But did you see his face? As soon as the TMO buzzed down. Did you? Oh, shit. He looked distraught. He's like, oh, I might have screwed up. He's like, oh. He like, because he knows he's going off. He doesn't know what color it is. But he knows he did something. And that's that kind of reaction.
00:51:48
Speaker
is so helpful to the team because you see, you know, we talked about some of the other guys was the wasps player who got red carded. Oh, no. Oh, I'll talk. Was it wasps? Yeah. The kung fu kick. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like freaks out. And that first off, as a teammate, I'm looking at that and be like, dude, you fucking kicked a guy in the face. Fuck you.
00:52:14
Speaker
Get the fuck out of here, right? Like that doesn't make me want to play hard That makes me want to be like, you know what? Fuck this and I realized that was the game was over So it didn't matter but at the same time like, you know you do that that happens at halftime like this Hoskins and And i'm like I had to play another 40 minutes With a man down because this fucking asshole decides to do something stupid and then goes off like he hasn't done anything wrong, right? Like no, you did something wrong. Don't act like you didn't don't act like this is a surprise Hoskins
00:52:40
Speaker
Immediately is like almost in tears on the field as soon as the TMO, you know Oh, we're gonna check TMO and then they cut right to Hoskins. I'm like, yeah No, she did something he knows it's gonna and he's upset cuz his team got hurt by it
00:52:56
Speaker
Mm-hmm. He knew it. He didn't don knew it and that's that's I think that alone Changes how the Irish played the rest of the match because I mean they definitely rocked up You can't take it away from them, right? So it's for having be like, I'm sorry guys like, you know, I told her for the second. That's my dad. I'm so sorry
00:53:13
Speaker
Sorry, that makes me want to be like, you know what? I want to back you up. You made a mistake. Let's pick you up. Yeah, pick you up a little bit. And I think that really was a catalyst for how the Irish played the second half and ended up coming back and tying this game. That was a huge event for them. Yeah, absolutely. And then let's talk about, oh.
00:53:37
Speaker
At home's try just noped three guys That film that film this weekend was like yesterday or today was probably not pretty watch that film review was probably just like
00:53:52
Speaker
Oh, like those three guys were just like hiding in the chair, like where can I hide from this? This is bad. Yeah, I couldn't get any smaller. No, you can't. It was almost like the water boy with the coach when he's watching the, oh, he gets time to pick up the, oh, he drops the ball and he has time to pick it up and dust it off and carry it.
00:54:11
Speaker
Yeah, Holmes had it like the ball like dribbled to him He went he went to a knee to pick it up and he turns around. There's still nobody on him and I'm just gonna go for a run He burns one guy like steps the other and then just gives a little fin at the end. Yeah free himself like dude I mean, I realized they were a man down at the time but to have nobody there on the lock on the wings
00:54:37
Speaker
So it's a 27 27 tie from Ashton gate between Bristol and Irish and that is a big one but Bristol still stay in the top top four and Irish Again, we said before their team to not be messed with don't sleep on them question. She though
00:54:52
Speaker
So I want to take you to the very end of the match though, where, um, you know, the, um, probably the penalty kick, they get the ball and they kick you right to touch to end the game. Would you have put in putting on your, your, your, you're the coach of the Irish right now?
00:55:12
Speaker
Or the captain, I guess, who's making that decision. Do you try for the win? No. Having been a man down and knowing that this could have been a game where we got humped and in an away game. That's the other thing. It's an away game. If it's a home game and we have the crowd support, right?
00:55:29
Speaker
Might give it an old college try for at least a few phases and then be like, alright, this is not going fucking anywhere. Right. And hoof it. But in an away game, in an away game that you probably had no business winning and had no, definitely had no business winning once you went down up to a prop and down to fucking uncontested scrums.
00:55:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's one of those ones you just count your blessings and take the two points and run away. Yeah, fair enough. Just a little thought experiment as to, you know, what if you go for it? You know, that's one of, like, trust your players a little bit, because they had played their hearts out for all that match. Yeah, the poof. That would have been a big ask.
00:56:02
Speaker
Yeah, I kind of I would have liked to have seen them try. That's all. I mean, I I appreciate the decision. I would make it myself if my job is on the fucking line, of course. Definitely. But as a fan of the game, I want to see them give it a shot and try to win even against, you know, I I really like Bristol. Yeah. And I want the best for them. But at the same time, I kind of want to I think for what would be best for rugby might have been an Irish win instead of a tie. Yeah. Fair point. OK.
00:56:31
Speaker
Let's do a little either or. So I've got two players from each position in TRM, and I could categorize this as back rows and back three as well. But we're going to go by position specific, because on these guys, you need that exact position too. So it's like, OK, well, these guys are the ones that play that position out and out. So here you go.
00:56:55
Speaker
And I'm going through this completely blind. Yeah, I've given Ben no heads up on this one. Start with centers. Hutch or Atkinson? Hutch.
00:57:07
Speaker
Okay. So here's a fun fact. They're the top two centers in TRM. They're very similarly priced. Yeah. Very similarly priced. Right. 230 ish. Okay. Both. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. Start two. So I went hutch.
00:57:27
Speaker
Fast obviously touch because it's hot but also if the Saints backline is just Ridiculous right now and they're gonna he's gonna get so many opportunities even if he's not scoring the tries He's gonna get a bunch of try assists just from right by virtue of being in that back line
00:57:42
Speaker
No, I uh, and they just talked about clusters backline is kind of shaky right now. Yeah Yeah, I think hutch is 35 and Atkinson's 231 Wow, they're they're very similarly priced. Um They've all played they've both played five games Um, they both have some good games and some me So yeah, it's pretty much a dead-even split. So it's just it's a matter of what you which team you think's gonna do the best
00:58:07
Speaker
I don't oppose Atkinson and I'll know my counter argument to it only because he's probably going to be a he's such a big piece right now and they have a hard time sitting him. Yeah, so that's the other thing and I know hutch they're gonna have a hard time sitting too, but still He's such a big part of the 261
00:58:24
Speaker
Oh, okay. So the the changes have been made just 261 Atkinson is 251. Okay, so they're still right about the same price. Yeah. Damn. Okay. Yikes. Um, I'm just going off my spreadsheet. Yeah. Yeah. Not off. Uh, uh, cause I, I can only look at so much in front of my face. Um, fullbacks Simon Hammersley from sale or Chris Pinell from Worcester.
00:58:53
Speaker
Uh, so I feel like sale are the first off sale. I think of the better team. Yeah. Um, no argument on me. And, uh, but so with Worcester, you're going to get a lot of playing time for panel. Um, now neither one of them's had a great start to the season. Um, Hammersley even had a minus game and yeah, but pen out MPL missed a game as well.
00:59:21
Speaker
Right. So I, fuck, I don't, I don't like, I honestly don't really like either of those options. So it's just draw. We're going from a both to a neither. Um, but I'm going to go Hammersley. Okay. And he's probably the cheaper of the two. So I guess if you have to have a distinct difference right there, that's probably it right there. I think he's, I think, uh, Hammersley is a little bit less than him than, um, uh, than Pennell. There's the word. I knew the word somewhere in there. Oh, here's a fun one fly half.
00:59:51
Speaker
Duncan Weir, Joe Simmons. Oh, that's tough. And they're almost dead even in points. Yeah. They're almost dead even in points. They're 78 and 77 apiece. I mean, that's. And Weir's missed one game. Right. Actually, and obviously Simmons didn't play much this game either.
01:00:10
Speaker
No. But I think Simmons is going to get that a lot more. I don't really like Worcester this year. I don't like them as much as I did last year. I think they're like I think I've been texted you. They're missing him. Well, some reason that well and Josh Adams.
01:00:26
Speaker
And yeah, that kind of helps, too. That part. Yeah, that part. I just don't know that I don't trust Weir. Fair enough. And I don't particularly like Simmons for fantasy value because of the way Exeter play. He's not going to get as many opportunities to be a scorer
01:00:45
Speaker
Um or or really go for a run himself. Um So then it comes down to the kicking difference and I think he's going to get a lot more opportunities to kick Um, so yeah, i'd go simmons. Okay, I think I take weir because they just seem to kick kick my point A lot and he usually finds a way to nail him just you know, and he's also got
01:01:07
Speaker
Neither one of them have a super quality backup to say the least. So that's also that kind of that kind of either one of those you're doing Simmons is probably the cheaper of the two only by a touch. So That's your drawing. But if I have those three and I do actually have weir and I don't have Simmons, uh, but I'm going with option three
01:01:25
Speaker
I'm gonna go behind door number three with Callum Sheedy at that point. Who's cheaper than both of them and has like double points. Yeah, but you know, sometimes you... But if you already have Sheedy, then I have Dunkin' Weir, but I'd rather have Simmons. Simmons, yeah, fair enough. Fly half, or no, not fly half. We just did fly half, dumbass. Sorry, my brain had a fart.
01:01:55
Speaker
Chris Robshaw or Rowan Ackerman? Ackerman. Man, you said that with no hesitation. Robshaw, I don't think he's a... One point difference. Ackerman's played more games. Yeah. Robshaw had a 40 point game.
01:02:09
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's the difference. I think Rob Shaw is going to get his points and bunches. Yeah, he's got he actually the of the I mean, if you toss out the two lowest scores for each player, Rob Shaw has the next lowest, which is a 16. That was the first week.
01:02:26
Speaker
Um, but yeah, ockerman's been pretty consistent. I think the one low score he has off the bet is off the bench. Um, the other one's 29, 20, 22, and 24 Rob Shaw didn't play one game and then they got 21 40 27 16. So yeah, it's, it's there. Right. They're, they're, they're right there. I think, uh, over the course of the season, who's, who's cheaper? I don't know.
01:02:52
Speaker
Do you know Akerman's at 310? Mm-hmm. Oh, they're right. They're next to each other. They're 315. So rock Rob shows 315 Akerman's 310. So they're basically the same So big but pinch over 300. I'm probably saying neither. Yeah. Yeah You hope for something you hope for something for a little bit more expensive. Yeah there and I would get but I'd say those two because I think Akerman's gonna write I
01:03:15
Speaker
Yeah, their balance per point is not pretty neither one of them's over over What's the word I know the words neither one actually ruptures over three by a touch. Yeah But yeah, you're hoping for like three and a half to four in that case
01:03:32
Speaker
Hookers, Tom Dunn, Tom Cruise. And while we're on Hookers, there's a problem where Tommy Taylor has less game time than Ashley Johnson for Woss. That's another thing that- They brought Ashley Johnson in at Flank.
01:03:46
Speaker
He belongs nowhere near the back row. Right. Nowhere near it. And that's Die Young's number one problem. And I know he's got a couple, like Thomas is hurt. But yeah, like, and, you know, Vellano just went down and Shields is not 100% healthy and I get it, but still, like, Ashley Johnson should be your last resort. I put me in a flank for him. Right. Die Young, roll out there and go play flank. I know you were a prop, but it's all right.
01:04:12
Speaker
So it was done and who uh, it was done and uh tom cruise tom cruise Um, I mean For me that that's easy. I have tom cruise. I don't have tom done. Um I'm looking at them. I mean that's a major disparity in in money though Yep, but the points are about dead draw. Yeah cruise is actually cruises 100k cheaper. Yep, and he's probably
01:04:39
Speaker
Where's the words he his his um, no competition for wasps. Yeah, although don is pretty much That he's best. He's best starter. They're not going anywhere. Um But yeah, I I would I would go cruise. Yeah need the value and um Yeah, I mean they both average around 1920 points. I mean, obviously there's other guys that you can pick but just if you're stuck on something and you gotta you gotta pick between them and this is what we're doing it for
01:05:08
Speaker
one thing i would i would i'm wondering though is we it would be nice to know what um roland's injury and what his status might be that'll be a huge thing because that that that could hurt cruz and in the line out in the long run absolutely yeah i agree hopefully it's nothing too bad right
01:05:23
Speaker
Um eight men I don't know eight men There's a there's a number of them in the league and i'm gonna throw two big names at you right here. Uh, sam simmons ben morgan They're about five points. They're about five points of separation. Wow. They both played four games Um Simmons and morgan one is I got more or less. Yeah, so one's more or less cheaper than the other but
01:05:47
Speaker
I like Simmons a lot. I like Ben Morgan a lot. I mean, I like both of them a lot, but and Simmons is significantly more expensive. He's 60k more. But there comes a time where you're willing to pay that premium. Right. And he's he is their out and out eight man. And Ben Morgan. Love him. He's not going. He's not the same dynamic person. Yeah, he's not going to be taken a 40 meter try. No.
01:06:11
Speaker
Definitely not sam simmons might yeah sam didn't play in the black back line this weekend That alone right there that there's your difference um again though I have ben morgan I don't have sam simmons, but it works right. I yeah Ultimately, if i'm choosing between the two and that's that's my choice. Uh, yeah, I would I would go i'd go simmons. Yeah
01:06:36
Speaker
Props and obviously you can pick both these guys if you really have to some props Jamal Ford Robinson or Ross Harrison Yeah, right and they're dead even on points
01:06:51
Speaker
Harrison yeah Yeah, Ford Robertson's cheaper, but I don't know. I don't know what he's got it So here's the thing. They both have a minus game in their bag. Mm-hmm, which is not great. They both have played five, right? He's And he guesses us do as the high score of the two. I know I'm looking at it now. They're tied No, the high school. Oh high scores high score of the week Harrison had a huge game didn't he? Nope. Oh, wow. It's about Ford Robinson in this past game 28
01:07:18
Speaker
Okay. Well, I mean, that's, that's the thing though. He's so they're, they're tied. He's got 28. That's, I mean, out of a prop, you get what you get. Yeah. Oh, he's got, and he's got two stinkers. He's got, cause he rotates. That's the thing. They are rotating him a lot. Yeah. He's, he's, he has the backup. Yeah. Cause I mean, you let, you know, for, for, for Gloucester.
01:07:38
Speaker
You have Balmain, you have... You have a couple of bodies in there. They actually had a problem with props last year, but this year they seem to be okay. I like Harrison, I have Harrison. So do I.
Player Performance Analysis
01:07:52
Speaker
I have no problem with either one, honestly. Obviously, Ford Robertson's the cheaper one, but I think Harrison's the more consistent starter, I know Steve. Oh yeah, the Honec and Balmain are the guys... Well, Honec is older, so he's kind of working his way out. Yeah.
01:08:06
Speaker
Um rapava russians in there too. I mean, but I mean those are obviously different different sides of the scrum, but yeah Yeah, um harrison's definitely steve diamond's boy though. So yeah, so i'd go with the guy who has the uh Certainly has the back of his of his coach and he's gonna or backing from his coach and right is gonna have the you know You're looking at the guys. They get in long term who's going to be playing a lot more and and I just don't know right now if jimall ford robinson is going to be getting significant minutes throughout the the season, right?
01:08:33
Speaker
All right, here's a fun one both return to the prem this weekend scrum half Reinach or care Reinach. Yeah He's a slightly more expensive option, but he did score more weekend obviously I dropped 20 points to pick up right And
01:08:53
Speaker
captain's in two. Yeah, that's true. There you go. Yeah. I mean, neither are bad options. Obviously, care does find ways to get points very easily and obviously he is such a huge leader in that Quinn's team but Rhynak again, if he turns into anything, if he turns into what the half already did last year, he's gonna be an unbelievable play for for this format and for FRD too if you have him. Um so yeah, neither one of them is bad. Uh again, Rhynak's the slightly more expensive but he did also score slightly more this week. So, there's
01:09:22
Speaker
Not a lot wrong with you, though. No, no, no. It really isn't. But right. OK, so also now maybe I'm I'm. What is it?
01:09:35
Speaker
Me let me see real quick. Sorry. I'm gonna take a minute to check use your brain some some statistical's static sticks Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Holy shit? Yeah, Danny kept through 99 passes this weekend That's crazy. Yeah, I thought it was ridiculous. Let me then let me check the other step for for for rhinoc So care through 99 I thought rhinocle through through fewer But he still threw an impressive amount. Yeah, he threw 67 passes
01:10:05
Speaker
So those are both very, very nice fucking high. A whole lot, whole other level. So that kind of tells you where their points are coming from. So, yeah, I mean, and if you have your rugby mag upgrade, it tells you where you get your points, offensive defense. I mean, you know, Reinach had to try assists big time. Yeah.
01:10:23
Speaker
He only had 16 meters, but it's still like oh he has the potential to get a lot more and he's going to yeah He's gonna have those little chips over and he's gonna score. I think number one He loves an inside line for a scrum half-line and he loves a pic so does care, right? But they both and they both love intercepts. So yeah this line us for the back line For Northampton is is fucking sick So he's gonna get more than his chances as far as that inside line res for Harlequins. I
01:10:54
Speaker
I'm just not sure it's going to be there. Consistently. Consistently. You're probably not wrong. All right. Here's one. Second rows. Out notes, second rows. We're on both of them Irish or Johnny Hill from Exeter. There are five points of difference. Yeah. Johnny Hill's played four games and both of us played five. Right.
01:11:19
Speaker
I mean, you got to. So here's here's where I'm I'm I'm thinking galaxy brain here. You got to wonder if Johnny Hills on on on the in the eyes for for six nations. That both is not definitely won't be. Yeah, he's the he's their captain, right?
01:11:38
Speaker
So i'm gonna go with both uh, because I like the way he's been playing Um, I think he can pick it up and keep it up. Um, how many he's cheaper He's cheaper but pretty a margin good decent amount. I'm just not sure. Let me see I want to see how many tries so he scored two tries And hill has scored
01:11:58
Speaker
See what it is? Three. So that, to me, like, and the reason that I'm looking at tries are that obviously there's a big scoring opportunities. And also locks don't get that many opportunities. So what I'm wondering is if Johnny Hill was in position for a lot of tries early, especially with the internationals missing. And I think he's going to come down to earth a little bit as far as production. Fair enough. Fair enough. Especially when you have, you know, Kovacic and fucking all the guys we were just talking about. Right.
01:12:28
Speaker
Um, whereas Botha's there's no reason to assume that his production is going to drop and he's probably he's well, I mean he's like club captain for you know He's a big part of that team. They don't have it I mean then they still have sean O'Brien coming back They still have a couple other guys who are going to come into the mix. But yeah, colman's probably going to be playing a lot but um kind of nervous is going to be going away soon, I think I think he's alone so Yeah, that's a that's a thing. So I go botha
01:12:54
Speaker
There you go. And finally a wing and I've been I was hoping that would be something worthy of like comparing and it it definitely is. Gabriel Obatoye or Tom O'Flaherty. They're a point apart.
01:13:10
Speaker
Flaherty. Oh, Flaherty. Yeah. They're not much different in price. Flaherty's a little bit more expensive, is the one point less. But his number in the pounds per point isn't that bad. I reversed it when I said that before. Like, you want it higher? No, you want it lower. I'm an idiot. Sorry. Didn't mean to confuse everybody out there that might be listening to that small, weird, minuscule fact. But yeah, anyway.
01:13:40
Speaker
Yeah, it is costing you a little bit more per point, but. We obviously saw what I mean. If it's always most his best game was the first game and he's best game. He actually seemed to be getting better. He had one decent game and then thirteen, thirteen, twenty seven, thirty nine. It was always been a little bit all over the place. Thirty nine, thirty three, nineteen, twenty three, twenty seven, fifteen.
01:14:06
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So he's he's definitely dependent on how Quinn's are doing right and are they able to move the ball, right? Yeah, because obviously he can do damage, but it's kind of cute Yeah, and I look at guys who kind of who are building and and so a flattery had a decent he had 24 points the first week Kind of trailed off against bath and Worcester But shit the last two weeks he's been he's been really picking up in this week. Yeah
01:14:33
Speaker
He did a fantastic job. I see him as getting himself sorted out. I think the returning internationals help O'Flaherty because that opens things up for him.
01:14:49
Speaker
Whereas in between is kind of you kind of get what you're already gonna get and I'm not I love them both But if I'm you know, the answer is not wrong. I'm being harsh here because Trying to be trying to pick one and right the answer is not wrong either way
01:15:06
Speaker
Okay to pick them and we can get the hell out of here. Um, I say the hell out of here. I like doing this.
Rugby Matches Predictions
01:15:11
Speaker
Um, bath opening up again on Friday night, once again, but, uh, Claremont coming to town. We saw what Claremont did when they went away last time. It wasn't pretty, but this also might not be the same team. Right. Well, it's also going to be interesting to see what the pitch is like. Yeah, I know it's going to be destroyed and how Claremont respond to that.
01:15:31
Speaker
Um, I think the likes of Yato and Fritz, uh, Fritz Lee are gonna be enough to get them of wine, so I'm gonna take the French. Yeah, me too. The French, the French club there, Claremont actually gonna win away from home. I agree. Um, okay, to Saturday, Leon and Benetton. This will be interesting, I have to say. Um, I backed them once, and they kind of let me down, but they didn't. I mean, God, they lost to the kick of the death.
01:15:59
Speaker
but I Haven't seen a lot out of leon that I love and i've seen much more out of benetton than I like So i'm gonna take the Italian team and go benetton especially if tommy uh tommy allen's playing fly off. Yeah, you know what i'm gonna do the same because I kind of talked me into it, but um
01:16:20
Speaker
I was gonna pick Leon cuz they're at home But I do like you said, I like the way that the Benetons play but in Benson fuck I mean both these teams have had a hard ask To play against Lester in Northampton. So yeah, it's not it's not it's hard to know which one you're you're taking but I
01:16:39
Speaker
Benetton, I thought have been putting up fights. They looked better against both Northampton and Leinster than I thought León did. León looked really scrappy and it was really ugly and you know at home against Leinster you would think they'd be scrappy but still it's like eh.
01:16:55
Speaker
Well, I mean, to me, also, you've got to look at points for versus points against. Benetton have 51 points for. Leon only have 20. And Leon's giving up 38. Benetton's giving up 68. So there's disparity there. But if Benetton can make it their game and make it as far as a higher scoring game, then they'll win. Whereas if they keep it low scoring, then obviously, we don't have a chance because they're at home. But I'm going to go with Benetton.
01:17:24
Speaker
I'll get it right one of these days Possibly the game of the weekend Saints and Leinster at Franklin's Gardens at Saints. Yeah It's hard to pick against them though in the form they're in assuming they're gonna go full noise I don't think laws will be back yet, but that's okay. They'll say maybe he is I'm what if that was uh, yeah He feels all right, but he's but that he's ready to go then definitely back to school
01:17:49
Speaker
I feel like they he might they thought he might have been ready to go but the last minute This past weekend they said no because they wanted to play in this next one fair enough La Rochelle and Glasgow Well, if la Rochelle can manage to not be a bunch of idiots and not get I gouged somebody Then I would I would pick the Frenchman because class go have a hard time away from that's a good point I'm picking Glasgow
01:18:16
Speaker
Okay, fair enough I'll take the French at home and you can I mean neither team has looked stupendous in this competition. No, they haven't Glasgow you gotta win against sale La Rochelle got hosed while that when they went to Selvard, so, you know me Ulster Quinn's Ulster. Yeah, especially at the Kingspin. Yeah Yeah, so I don't have these backwards
01:18:46
Speaker
Yeah, ho ho ho. Yeah, the other game of the weekend. What team was Sarri's bringing to this? That's always the question. That's going to be the question for the entirety of this season, as long as there's both Europe and Premiership to be played. Right.
01:19:04
Speaker
Well, I think this weekend is going to tell us a lot. Yes. So we don't not knowing who they're playing, who they're going to bring to the table. It's hard to say. I think, though, based on their last lineup that they're going against. Fuck, who was it? I have Osprey's against Osprey's.
01:19:23
Speaker
Yeah, that's hard to tell because it's ospreys Um, they brought they brought brought plenty of firepower, right? There's no question They brought enough that they like so at the beginning of this at the out So I thought they were gonna bring full noise the whole time, but they didn't in their first match against rossing They they did a little bit against ospreys to work their way back in I think they're gonna go full noise at this point I do think they're gonna go for it Because they're gonna want it I mean, I think this weekend will tell them a lot about what they're gonna do
01:19:53
Speaker
I think they go full noise. I don't know that it's enough. Yeah, I mean we saw what it took for Rossing to tie Munster and that was a great match that Rossing played and Munster somehow still found a way to draw. Right. Like at Tillman Park it's tough. I got a picking with my brain and not with my heart. I'm gonna go and pick the Munsterman. Yeah I am too.
01:20:21
Speaker
uh russing and ospreys doesn't matter where it is we're gonna go russing yeah hopefully fen Russell plays and just dances circles around him because he's my fly half an frd um Gloucester and Connick oh this is an intriguing one i'm tasty on this one this is a this is intriguing Connick have got their one and one Gloucester oh and two um Connick didn't i only got to see them play the once um i wasn't terribly impressed so i'm going Gloucester okay well i will
01:20:54
Speaker
I'll back Darragh and go with Connick. New England fly half's brother, tag leader's brother, dog leader, plays fullback for Connick. And they constantly switch their names in Irish media. It's ridiculous. Tig's always posting about it. I'm like, dude, how do they fuck that up? He's like, dude, we actually don't look that much the same. I mean, they look the same, but they look similar, but they don't look, they're not twins by any means. So it's like, and one's older, one's younger, so it's like,
01:21:24
Speaker
They're both ginger. Oh, that's a shame. Solace. Oh, sorry. Just kidding. Sail and Exeter. Ooh, Exeter. Yeah. I mean, it sounds, it's the champions cup I know, but Exeter have got their formula, I think.
01:21:43
Speaker
And Exeter need, they really need to... So, Sail doesn't need this. They want it, obviously. But Exeter, they need to prove themselves that they can get out of the... Yeah, it gets in the knockout round. It gets in the knockout round. I don't know that Sail had that same desire. I'm not sure if that's still on there. Either way, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to make it in as a wildcard team. But Exeter really want to make, I think, put their stamp on this tournament.
01:22:09
Speaker
Yeah, they want to they want to say we are going to be a competitive team in Europe from here out So yeah, give me the Chiefs and then to lose and won't pay all French Yeah, an all French class. I'm gonna go with to lose. Yeah me too the hosts And not only that but they just they're playing such a better brainer rugby than Montpelier
01:22:29
Speaker
One other note though, it's fucked me up while I'm watching the NFL this past weekend.
Rugby vs NFL Perception and Podcast Wrap-Up
01:22:33
Speaker
I've watched so much rugby and so little football recently that now when I'm looking at the scores on the scoreboard for football, I get the home team fucked up because it's everything's backwards. Yeah. Well, because we're the ones that are backwards. You haven't figured it out like the rest of the world does home team first.
01:22:52
Speaker
We're idiots and like, yeah, let's just hope that you suck because we won't be funny. Yeah. Fuck you. It's your guest. You're being polite. Yeah. No, no, no. Just make it easy, please.
01:23:01
Speaker
Oh man, okay. Well, we have a massive round of Chabiot's Cup. This is pretty much gonna dictate how people go from here out. The clubs that win will probably continue to fight on, and the clubs that lose will probably consider packing it in, depending on which one it is. Northampton, Munster, they're gonna keep fighting on because neither one of them lost. And I think even Saracen's Munster, that's a tight group, so they'll keep pressing forward.
01:23:29
Speaker
But other than that, thank you very much for listening. Find us on Google Play, Apple Podcast, Spotify, that's the one. Tune in, all that stuff. I'll get some starts up for everybody this week. Fancy Rugby Podcast at gmail.com if you have a question. We're not gonna do STFRY because it's just me that plays FRD right now. So that's okay, sorry. Well, we'll give you a break for a couple weeks. And then, yeah, so we'll be back next week to recap the
01:23:59
Speaker
first half of the home and home of the of Europe and until then everybody have yourself a good week stay safe for those of you that are dealing with a friggin bullshit snow they're out there everybody have a good one cheers