Introduction to the Chick Foley Show
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Welcome, Chick Foley show.
Wrestling's Big Weekend
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What is up, Foley fam? We are back to talk about an absolutely epic weekend of pro wrestling. Memorial Day is starting to rival mania weekend for kind of the biggest one of the year. It's going to be a lot of fun. We have a huge, huge, huge bag full of listener mail, too, that we're going to get to. But before we do all that, let's start by introducing the stars of the
Vanderpump Rules and Wrestling Drama
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show. Sheena, how you doing?
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I'm doing good, much better than last week when you guys had the audacity to have me here recording during the Vanderpump Rules reunion show. So I've got two of those under my belt now. I'm waiting for part three. Um, but yeah, so this weekend in wrestling was almost as big a scandal ball, but not quite.
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Marco, have you watched both parts of the reunion so far? I have not. No, I think. Oh, my gosh. Watch them on Peacock. They're like the pumped up episodes. Yeah. See, I watched my wife watch the one, the first one, and it was unedited. So it's like all the, you know, the F words and all that stuff. And a lot of a lot of, you know, a lot of smack talk happening back and forth. It was pretty tense, pretty tense episode. You could feel, you know,
00:01:28
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As a guy watching that, you definitely don't want to be in that position that that gentleman was in.
00:01:36
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Just just through like, you know kind of osmosis from being in the house and so much this stuff's been on through the years I Honestly think like the entire seasons of these shows are just built to make fodder for these reunion episodes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally Yeah, the reunions are the biggest I think those are the biggest viewer. Yeah, like the whole season. It's like the rest of media Yeah, it
Bravo and WWE Crossover Ideas
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is. It's like the rest of the video packages Bravo the Bravo reunion shows are iconic deed like some of the best moments in Bravo have come from from these reunion shows. So yeah
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And it's always so awkward because the cast have all seen like the season, you know, they've all watched it. And now they're all coming together, all heated up, jacked up and ready to just like F each other up. So yeah, if you love the drama like I do, you know, you got you got to get tuned in and all and I know all you guys are listening have peacocks. So go back, start with season one of Vanderpump Rules and get caught up and then catch up in season 10 and all the drama. Yeah, I think Bravo should consider
00:02:31
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you know, partnering up with our WWE and doing like a bloodline reunion two part episode when they all get back together and talk about their differences. Yeah, I would be here for that.
00:02:46
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Jordan, save us, man. How many parts of the Vanderpump Rules reunion have you watched so far? You know how David Spade tells Tommy, boy, I can actually hear you getting fatter. Well, I can hear us losing listeners. The listeners are just clicking off. They're like, oh my God, what did I tune into? Marco and Sheena are doing a Vanderpump Rules thing.
00:03:06
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I don't even know what that show is. Like I don't really want to know what it is. So, um, we're here, we're here to talk wrestling, maybe mixing some
Podcasting Reflections
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Ted last. So we are not here for Vander, whatever it's called. I guarantee there is a huge percentage of our listener base that have female counterparts that watch Vanderpump rules, dude. And I know, I know some dudes that watch Vanderpump rules too. I mean, Seth, you know, he doesn't sit down and actually watch it, but like he said, by Oz Moses, he's absorbed.
00:03:33
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this over the last 10 years. I know some of the big characters. Yeah. There's a character on there named Sheena. I mean, how can we not watch, you know? Yeah, it's true.
00:03:41
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Yeah, it's uh, you guys got to give us some feedback in the comments or in the the listener mail for next week Let us know if anybody or maybe you got a spouse or significant other that uh That enjoys the show and you're kind of in the position to me where you kind of see it secondhand Or if you're just a hardcore pump rules fan like like sheena and marco here I didn't start a pump rules podcast way back in the day with all the shit that i've watched over the years like this And I would be cashing out right now dude. The the pump rules podcast game they're getting
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millions of listens and downloads. We could have had Sheena and Jax and Brittany and all the oldies on the show. It would have been brilliant, man. With hindsight. I've thought about that before, man. If I had a time machine, I think two of the things I would do would be buy a ton of Bitcoin in 2010 and start a podcast, man. Because it would have been so much easier to break out there when there was maybe just a couple hundred podcasts out there. Whereas now, it's just an infinite amount.
00:04:35
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I think if you were one of the first podcasts to go back and rewatch shows like The Office or Seinfeld or something like that and give recaps of the shows, I feel like there should be such a market for that. Now, everybody does that, so it's not really special, but man, again, hindsight. Yeah, for sure.
Farm Life Updates
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Sheena, let the listeners know what is new on the farm.
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Oh, what is new on the farm? Oh, the garden is popping. So I got sunflowers out the freaking yin yang, dude. Sunflower is my favorite flower. I planted a boatload of them. So they're all on the verge of just exploding and creating this beautiful cascade of yellows and reds and oranges and chocolate colors back in the backyard. So stoked for that. Other than that, one of our hens is broody again. But we have no rooster. But we have no rooster, R.I.P. Norman. Can't blame me.
00:05:30
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Jordan killed the rooster. Yeah, the grim reaper of chickens in our house and chickens just started dropping dead. Sorry, Norman, we're not laughing at you, but yeah, that's pretty much what's... He was on his way out of the farm one way or another anyway, so... Is that it, Shane? I think that's it. All right.
Social Media and Wrestling Engagement
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Remind the listeners where they can find you and Marco on Instagram and Twitter.
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you can find me on so you can find me on instagram at chick foley marco running the twitter machine at chick foley show and you can join all the fun on our facebook group and our patreon exclusive facebook group chick foley.com also follow all of our pod foundation brethren over at pod foundation you got the extra cooler show coming down the aisle and all of our guys over at turnbuckle tavern so make sure that you give all them a follow and they'll have they'll hook you up with all your
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wrestling content that you need for the entire week. For sure. Anybody got anything they need to express feelings on before we dive into the weekend that was? Yeah, I do. Fully fam. We got to step it up, dude. There's four AEW pay-per-views a year and we have like a hundred comments in the Facebook group on the AEW pay-per-view. Can we step it up? Was everybody watching battleground?
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No, there was. There were people post. I felt bad because I'm a big NXT fan. I love NXT, but I felt like I was in the minority and I didn't even think about doing a dual live thread, but I forget who- Somebody asked in the group. Somebody asked, they said, where's the battleground live thread? Yeah. Apologies to you guys.
00:07:08
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In our defense, we were at a friend's Memorial Day pool party. Our weekend was jam-packed. We took the kids swimming and all that, so we weren't able to watch NXT live. I was bummed that we didn't put up a live thread for at least you guys to go on there and chat it out.
00:07:25
Speaker
Yeah, AW, maybe everybody was just burned out all the time. I think it was a combo of being, the buzz was definitely down a little bit for this pay-per-view from what it's been on some of the ones past. You did have battleground going up, so I can either have a free night of wrestling or a $50 night of wrestling. True, that's true. Dude, I really think they should go back to the Saturday night pay-per-views, man. The majority of the Memorial Day cookouts and stuff probably happened on Sunday, because everybody's got the Monday off. I know that was our big neighborhood party was that Sunday.
00:07:53
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And dude, I think people were just kind of burnt out. So if you hadn't already bought it, I don't think you're getting anybody that's coming home after drinking or cooking out all day and deciding like, hey, let me go ahead and plop down 50 bucks to watch this.
AEW Double or Nothing Highlights
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But yeah, the engagement was down. Because for a big show, like Double or Nothing is like one of the big... I don't know if we got 600, but we've definitely been up to like the 400s and stuff before. Like it's way more than 100. Yeah, you're right, Jordan. You got kind of dead, man, which is weird for an AWW show. So I don't know if that says more about the pay-per-view or more about the Foley fan.
Night of Champions Review
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But yeah, cause those live guides are fun, man. Like if you just hear the concept, like, you know, if I was on the outside looking in, I'd be like, uh, whatever, like, you know, like there, but it really does feel like you're like watching wrestling with your friends. You're watching it with your friends. You're watching it with your friends. They're just like far away. You know, it's all, it's all kind of a group, a group chat like it, like the old days, you know, you used to be in like a chat room. Yeah, you'd be a chat room. So, so NIDA champions had 158 comments and AW had 129. So.
00:08:51
Speaker
So the whole weekend was down. I think, I mean, like you said, it's my world day weekend. I think everybody was a weird one too. Saturday afternoon. You know what I mean? Oh, I didn't think about, yeah, the afternoon. I forgot that it was in the afternoon. Yeah. So we're, we're weekend and wrestling. We enjoyed it, but you know, I like it cause I got the long weekend so I can kind of, you know, drink as much as I want. I don't got to worry about working the next day after pay-per-view or whatever, man. You got a little bit of room to breathe on either side of it, but
00:09:15
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But yeah, it was a lot, dude. I would have preferred these shows happening on three consecutive weekends instead of three on one weekend. So I guess we could start the conversation there, man. What do you guys think of these super stacked weekends that we've had a few times? I want to say that weekend of, was that Clash of the Castle last year? Or was that a different weekend? I think we had kind of the same thing. We had NXT, WWE event, and AEW all on the same weekend. Was that Clash of the Castle weekend, Jordan?
00:09:42
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I'm pretty positive it was. Yeah. It was either that or one of the Saudi shows, man, but we had another weekend like that. Uh, you know, in the past few months, what do you guys think of the, the, the super sized wrestling weekends? I mean, in some ways I like it. And then other ways it's a lot for me. You know what I mean? Like just to sit down. Cause I mean, I'm usually cooking food, like even through this, like at the beginning of night of champions, I was making dinner for all of us. Yeah. I was making redneck fajitas. They were delicious by the way.
00:10:08
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But I was kind of like watching back and forth, you know, and with the kids, you know, you're constantly getting up and down and doing all the things. So to do that for, you know, three consecutive shows is a lot. You don't really get to sit down and actually like hone in and focus on what's really happening.
00:10:22
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I kind of think it's one of those things where like, you're really excited. It's really exciting to look forward to it. But then when it actually gets there, you're like, dude, this is kind of exhausting. Dude, it's I think it's just too much. I agree with Sheena. I think AW has already kind of staked the claim to Memorial Day weekend and Labor Day weekend, dude, we don't.
00:10:42
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Why are we doing this? Like battleground running? Let them have it, man. Like, dude, this is no longer a war at this point. Like, we're way past that. I mean, I think everybody's kind of already moved on from that. The only people that are at war are the internet nerds that really get way too into it. Like, dude, I just want to watch some wrestling. I don't need three straight days of it. Well, dude, they had a GCW show on Friday night, too. It's like, damn, this ain't WrestleMania weekend. Good God.
00:11:09
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Yeah, it was impact that impact impact and GCW both ran Friday night. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yep.
00:11:17
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Yeah. They, uh, and I still don't understand battleground, man. That was such a disservice to the guys on NXT and, uh, at AW put in battleground at the same time as, as Dublin, nothing. Yeah. I thought a battleground was actually really good too. It was too. I agree, man. Match for match, dude. Like it was, you could make an argument, man, that it ended up being a show of the weekend. Like it delivered, but it's just the star power is just not there like it used to, you know?
00:11:41
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Yeah, six matches, you know, like that, I mean, that's beautiful. Just six, six little clean matches. I mean, nine champions only had seven, but still felt, felt longer. Well, the WWE has gone to this, like, you know, they've been doing it before the Endeavor partnership. So maybe it's like a Nick Khan thing. But if you watch their pay per use nowadays, they've gone to like the UFC style pay per view where you'll have like 15 to 20 minutes between matches on those papers, man.
00:12:08
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All the recaps and all the... Yeah, not that their pay-reaves before that were like super snappy, like, you know, one in the next, but it would typically like the match went in, you get some replays and we'd be on to the next... You usually have like a quick backstage segment and then the next match, but now we're getting like a backstage segment, like a couple of commercials. Video packages galore, dude. Well, a lot of those video packages we're getting are because the people that
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Or not the premium They're having commercials, but we're seeing like a you know, a Bianca Bel Air highlight video or something Yeah, I get annoyed by that dude. It really makes the shows drag without a lot of action going on in between time Yeah, it is a lot but yeah, let's talk shows
00:12:50
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Yeah. Let's kick it off with night of champions, man. I was a little bit let down by the AJ and Seth match. It was a really, really good match. I thought we were going to get something that was, um, you know, like transcendent, like just, just totally game changing to establish this new championship. And I thought it was like a really good, you know, raw or smack down main event. Yeah. It was a, it was a little consolation match, you know?
00:13:11
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Just for the consolation title. Yeah, dude. I think out of the weekend, that match is completely forgettable. Honestly, like I don't think anybody's going to remember that match by the next pay-per-view, honestly. I thought it was weird that it went on first too. I mean, at first cause you're hyped cause you're like, Oh shit, Seth Rollins is coming out first, you know? And like that, like it's a good way to kick off the show. But I feel like the fact that they crowned a new champion on the first match of the show, it just kind of like, it felt displaced. You know, it didn't feel as important cause it was kicking off the show.
00:13:40
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It felt like they were going out of their way to make sure we know this is a consolation prize. Exactly. Definitely. This is not a main event. Don't confuse it for a main event. In no way, shape, or form shall this be a main event. I do think the belt design looked a lot better seeing it in person in action around somebody's waist. How about you, Jordan?
00:14:01
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Yeah, it definitely looked better. Um, I'm still not a huge fan of it, honestly, though. I just, I don't know, man, just, it's just a rip off big gold to me with a WWE logo in the middle of it. So it is what it is, but yeah, it definitely feels like a consolation championship to me still. Yeah. It just seemed like it made all the sense in the world to have it go on last man. It's night of champions. We, um, you know, we're crowning a brand new champion. It's supposed to be a new world champion.
00:14:30
Speaker
And you got it going on first, dude. Like, it feels like, you know, the Roman, you know, Roman must go on last is like the Hogan must pose of this era. I think arguably the most shocking result of the weekend was, was Asuka against Bianca, you know, actually taking the belt after the year plus reign. Marco, man, what do you think of this one, man? Especially that, that unique ending with Asuka just, you know, going to the second attempt on the mist.
00:14:59
Speaker
Yeah, it was a I like the I like the pacing of the match. Obviously, we weren't expecting Bianca to lose. But, you know, we talked about this on raw down that, you know, Bianca definitely needed some type of
00:15:15
Speaker
Some type of change, not like a heel turn or anything like that, just a little bit more of an edge to her, kind of like a little upgrade to where she's at now. And I think the only way to do it is to take the title off of her and kind of get it back the right way as opposed to the last time when she lost in, what was it, like 26 seconds or whatever that was.
00:15:38
Speaker
Yeah, so I think her losing, she didn't lose. It wasn't a clean win. Asuka cheated to win, so it's not like she's protected in that sense, so it's not like it's a huge loss on her sense. Arguably, she lost one of the greatest, not even women, wrestlers in the world in Asuka. I mean, check the accolades if you need to.
00:16:05
Speaker
I'm interested to see where it's going. I think there's definitely room for improvement when it comes to the women's division right now on all fronts, including AEW. But I think they need more intriguing storylines. And I think something like this can definitely do it if they put Bianca in that position where she's kind of like her back is against the wall. And now she has to work her way back to that title.
00:16:32
Speaker
Sounds like it's been kind of interesting. Shaking it up a little bit. You know, I was listening to cheapy earlier in the week and they made a good point because I was like, I couldn't believe it. I didn't think there was any way that, you know, Oscar was going to beat Bianca. And they were talking about how it was a good time to do it because they weren't at home. It wasn't like, you know, because Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce.
00:17:02
Speaker
Bianca, you know, she's the biggest baby face. That's a lot of bees. The biggest baby face Bianca and Bad Bunny had a baby. No. But she's the biggest baby face here and the biggest baby face in the women's division. And it made sense to take it from her in front of an audience that's like not like, you know, her hometown crowd, you know, like, I feel like we're all her hometown crowd, right? Because we all love Bianca. And so, you know, kind of doing it in a low key way at Saudi was just, it was better than doing it somewhere.
00:17:31
Speaker
here in the States, I think. See, I agree with you. It was a good idea for doing that, but I think the different reason. I think the Saudi, one thing about that crowd, it's been very kayfabe friendly, right? Since they've been starting one over there in 2018, that crowd will cheer the baby faces and boo the heels. Backlash, Bianca was getting booed out of the building, man. Yeah.
00:17:52
Speaker
And I think if it was in the States, you know, Oscar still got in positive reactions, even when she's been a heel. I think the crowd would have popped for it. I think they wanted to get that good, like, shocked, like, kind of sad crowd reaction out of it. Well, that makes sense, too. What did you think of it, Jordan? You're the women's wrestling expert here.
00:18:05
Speaker
So I'm going to kind of go back to something I said last week of it. They're just doing so much with the women's division just to try to get, um, a cheap pop, like with bringing Trish back and stuff. I kind of feel like this is the same exact thing. Like, dude, they're just trying to get people to talk about the women's division because quite honestly, there's nothing to talk about. Um, I was definitely shocked that they decided to pull the trigger in Saudi on this. Um, cause dude, I agree. I, I,
00:18:32
Speaker
Bianca getting booed in a backlash
Ted Lasso Finale Discussion
00:18:35
Speaker
was, I thought that was cool, man. It just, it was different. Like I do think people were getting tired of her being just the baby face champion and just running over the whole division. Jane Cena. The only thing I have a problem with is
00:18:50
Speaker
Man, dude, I really thought we were going to get like a Bianca and Rhea match title versus title kind of situation, whether or not it was going to be a Smosh finish or not. I don't know, but I just felt like that's where we were headed. And I don't know, man, I feel like this takes a little bit of shine off Bianca. Honestly, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but dude, Oscar has not like felt like the strongest person since she came back. I mean, she's lost a handful of matches here and there since Royal Rumble when they brought her back as evil Oscar.
00:19:20
Speaker
I don't know, man. I had no idea or even like an ink length like this was going to happen just because it was a time filler match. I was shocked. Why do we got Oscar with
NXT Battleground Recap
00:19:31
Speaker
another shot? Bianca beat her clean as a sheet at Mania. Exactly. I was shocked at people that in the picks league picked Oscar. I was like, are you guys, are you just trying to give your points away? I don't understand. Why would you pick Oscar? Sure enough, dude.
00:19:43
Speaker
Yeah, I just, I feel like they're just trying to get like a crowd reaction for women's matches right now. And it's sad because they have talented people. It just doesn't seem like they know how to look at people. Yeah. It's wild. Speaking of trying to get a reaction, did you have tears? Were you turned on? What were you feeling is when you saw your dream girl, Trish get the big victory at night of champions?
00:20:08
Speaker
I definitely wasn't turned on and I do not understand this at all. Is she seriously going to be an active wrestler for the rest of the year? I think she's going to have a little run, man. I don't think it's the last little year. I think she's definitely going to be there through summer slim. I was actually reading that they did say her schedule, she's going to be at every single Monday day, Rob.
00:20:30
Speaker
Uh, dude, I can't believe they got her to go to Saudi. I mean, cause she doesn't even like doing a bunch of traveling to the States because she's got two kids. Like he's a mom, dude, that bag is fat. I know, but dude, she's straight up. She was doing, she just put her kids, she just put her kids to college. Like, you know what I mean? Like it makes sense.
00:20:52
Speaker
She was doing like, Canada's Got Talent or whatever. She was recording that show. Oh, god, like a judge. Yes, she was a judge. So I
AEW Women's Division Analysis
00:21:02
Speaker
don't know, man, Trisha's like, turned the page and is going back into her 30s again. Apparently, like, I mean, I like seeing her looks like it. Oh, yeah.
00:21:12
Speaker
Them fucking calcium canons are really showing out. The words of Jordan Wells do not reflect the thoughts and opinions. I have never, listen, I've breastfed two babies and I've never heard calcium canons. That is spectacular.
00:21:32
Speaker
You guys are off the chain, man. Oh, really? Let's go to the main event. The latest episode of, uh, uh, you know, as the bloodline turns, we saw pretty good match. It almost felt kind of like how shows how show esque with how much they were stalled and stuff, but it was classic tag team match. And then we get the drama, the freaking usos show up and, uh, and all hell breaks loose, man. Like she, you know, what'd you think of the latest chapter of the bloodline storyline?
00:22:01
Speaker
I mean, I thought it was gonna be wild. I did not see Jimmy giving freaking Roman two super kicks to the head wild on my bingo card. I was pleasantly surprised and, you know, I mean, I mean, me and Seth were just sitting there with our mouths wide open, just like, holy, you know? So, loved it. Jordan, were you surprised that Jimmy was the one to finally turn on Roman before Jay?
00:22:31
Speaker
No, I thought this was a cool way to do it. Just like Jimmy telling him this is what you should have done from the start. Like, yes, the dialogue was king. It was almost like Jimmy was saying, you know what, man, I should have listened to you from the start. And this is what you should have done from the start. And this we should have never even went down this road with them. Like, I thought it was cool. Personally, I thought Jimmy doing it made it even more impactful to me.
00:22:57
Speaker
We said, I got you. Got you. We kicked him the second time. The one kick you could, you could have played the one kick off as like, you know, fucking crime of passion, right? Like he the moment. I just saw him shove my brother. He just showed me. But the second. Did it for the family. Yeah. The second kick was fucking calculated.
00:23:14
Speaker
Yeah, it was wild, dude. I love the Jimmy involvement because Jimmy's been hesitant since day one. We're actually going back.
Four Pillars Match Analysis
00:23:23
Speaker
Our son is obsessed with Backlash 2021, the zombie match between, the Lumberjack match between
00:23:30
Speaker
um, Damien Priest and the Miz. And there's a segment in there where, you know, Jimmy's like calling Jay Roman's bitch and like all this stuff, dude. And so like, it's funny to go back and see that and like, see where we are now. And like, Jimmy's finally like, you know, he's had enough. He's played his part long enough. He's done. It's over. Like the gig is up.
00:23:51
Speaker
We should have watched the, uh, it's still on, uh, I'm not sure if they updated it, but on YouTube, WWE put out the bloodline storyline. Uh, it's like two hours long, but it's like, it's literally, yeah, it's all, it's everything from, you know, Romans return, uh, at summer slam all the way up to, I believe, like I said, I haven't checked it, uh, recently, but the last time they cut it off was like, I think it was before WrestleMania this year.
00:24:17
Speaker
Um when they're going to defend against uh k.o And sammy but just going back and seeing like, you know, all the it's all the a lot of people forget the jimmy storyline was During like the jimmy era. It wasn't it wasn't watched We watched the hell in the cell match roman and jay last week because brett was on You know, we told him about he wanted to watch it and dude go
Owen Hart Cup Criticisms
00:24:36
Speaker
back and watch it right now It's mind-blowing dude knowing everything that comes after dude, like how well they yeah, they planted all the seeds man Like this is like a two-hour movie. Would you watch it on youtube?
00:24:46
Speaker
Let me just tell you, my son loves Roman Reigns. Acknowledges his- He loves the whole bloodline. Acknowledges his tribal chief, like nobody's business, right? When we watched that Hell in a Cell match, when freaking Roman is beating the shit out of Jay and then Jimmy comes in, he starts beating the shit out of Jimmy and makes Jay submit or makes Jay say I quit or whatever. Brett was physically sad and he yelled out, I hate you, Roman.
00:25:15
Speaker
He was so hurt, dude. He's going backwards. He's kind of picked up this bloodline storyline as the bloodline or the baddest faction in the freaking WWE. So he's seeing them roll together. And so we're kind of going back into the origin story. He just turned three when that was happening in real life. So he was watching wrestling at that time, but it wasn't really digested. He's getting an hour where he can really keep up with these storylines. He'll ask me, why did Sami Zayn leave the bloodline and stuff like that?
00:25:43
Speaker
And I asked me like a Jimmy and Jay are leaving now. So and so for him to see that dude He was he was hurt. Yeah, it was it was really neat to just see him like take that in That's like my son with the same thing. He was like he's like the same thing acknowledges a tribal chief like loves a bloodline hates the cheating though, not a big fan of a He loves it all but he hates when like, you know They having a good match and everything and then Jay and Jimmy will jump in or so Yeah jumping like he loved the the you know Cody Rhodes
00:26:12
Speaker
And Roman Reigns match at WrestleMania, he's all into it. And then Solo comes in and totally took him out of it. He was like, why do they have to cheat all the time? I don't get it. Yeah, he's a man of integrity. That's a good job. That's a parenting win. He's like, I love them, but they don't need to cheat. I'm like, well, that's how Roman keeps his prestige. He hasn't got his work.
00:26:37
Speaker
That's quite the damn conflict, dude, if you love the bloodline, but hate cheating. At least in Romans matches, that's trademark, man. Like if I was the Usos, man, I would go back, if I'm Jimmy, I would go back and tell Jay, like, think of how many times we've interfered for this guy, dude. How many times has he ever helped us? I can only think, only time I can think that Roman interfered on behalf of the Usos was when he helped them beat Randy and Matt Riddle to unify the tag belts, man. That's the only time I can remember him doing a run-in for them.
00:27:06
Speaker
I was actually talking to J-Bone about this. I think some of us need to get together and do a bloodline deep dive of all the psychology behind it and all that stuff. You just brought up a good point. They do everything for him and he does nothing for them.
00:27:24
Speaker
And at the same time, like, would they do everything for him? It's never enough. It's always like the next thing. That's classic narcissist behavior, dude. I mean, he's, he's in God mode. He doesn't, he, that's beneath him to help them, right? He expects the help from them, but like, he's definitely not going to show up for them. And then when they disappoint, he, he puts it all back on them, right? So it's all, it's all on them whenever they don't live up to his expectations.
00:27:52
Speaker
I'm going to be sad when the storyline's over, man. It's been such a great run. Yeah, I love it. I feel like there's going to be a huge void in WWE once this thing finally goes kaput. You think when the bloodline finally implodes, do you think, or like, you know, majorly implodes, do you think Roman's going to take a break, like a hiatus? Yeah, probably. I think he'll probably take a break and come back as a babyface, you know? I think that's
AEW's Pay-Per-View Strategies
00:28:16
Speaker
typically what you do after a monster heel run.
00:28:19
Speaker
All right, so let's just kind of quickly put a bow on Night of Champions. Everybody thumbs up or thumbs down. I give it a thumbs up. I give it a thumbs up. It was entertaining. Yeah. I'll give it a thumbs up. There you go, man. All right, let's do the beverage break before we move on to Sunday. Sunday.
00:28:48
Speaker
Alright, it's time for the weekly beverage break where we tell you guys what we are sipping on as we pod. Jordan, you can go first.
00:28:56
Speaker
All right. I am drinking a Tommy knocker blood orange IPA brewed in Idaho Springs, Colorado at 70 or sorry, 7,526 feet. Um, absolutely. Yeah. It's this is really, really good. Um, I, the can was what attracted me to it and I bought it and I was like, did I really just buy a blood orange IPA? But yeah, it's really good.
00:29:22
Speaker
Didn't we have, didn't I have a beer like a couple of months back that was like an altitude IPA or something like that? That Alex Eubank broke down what it actually was? I think so. Yeah. I think you're jogging my memory a little bit. I can't remember if it was like an altitude IPA or what it was. It was something like that.
00:29:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah, because I remember we ended up having a discussion about like high altitude coffee changes like the fermentation or something like that. Yeah, and it's it's healthier because it prevents like, you know, I'm sure hops and stuff are subject to like mold and mycotoxins and stuff just like coffee beans and stuff are so it probably helps with like the the
00:29:56
Speaker
health and toxicity or non-toxicity of the process. Sounds like you just said this beer is healthy for me. Keep rolling. Drink up, pal. I got to say, dude, I do not like blood orange, man. I think the biggest reason is the opening of Dexter. Do you guys remember when he would cut into that blood orange when he was making this breakfast?
00:30:14
Speaker
Something about that just always looked kind of gross to me, man. And like the couple of times since I saw that, that I've been offered up like blood orange or like blood orange flavored drink. I've just it's been an intense flavor. Like it's it's nothing like actual just like regular working class orange. Like it's it's definitely an intense flavor profile. I like it in some things. And in some things I feel like it's just it's too it's too overpowering. Marco, where are you at on blood orange?
00:30:40
Speaker
I'm not a fan of it. I'm on the same train as you. Yeah, not a huge fan. They're beautiful though. A good slice of blood orange. It just looks really, really pretty. Marco, what are you drinking, man?
00:30:55
Speaker
I am drinking a... I actually messaged this to our group chat a few weeks back. My first ever sour beer, because I'm not a huge fan of sours, but the mega sours explode. Wow. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Actually, the can looks like the poster of the mega powers explode, which is pretty cool. It's made by
00:31:19
Speaker
Two Weeks Notice Brewing Company. It's West Springfield, Massachusetts. It's actually pretty good. It's Citra and Galaxy. It has some, I think, tangerine, pineapple, puree, and some coconut in it as well.
00:31:37
Speaker
Not like the sours I taste before. Tropical AF. Yeah, so it's not as like, it's not as tart as the ones I've tried where I've just like, you know, not tried it. This one's actually like palatable for me. So I'm gonna look for more sours that are, you know, fruitful. We love a good sour.
00:31:56
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I'm drinking a... It's the Grindhouse Creme Ale. This is the official beer of the Memphis Grizzlies. It's by Ghost River Brewing Company right there in downtown Memphis. Definitely recommend hitting up their spot if you're going to any type of live event at the FedEx Forum in Memphis. They got a huge back patio that
00:32:18
Speaker
You can literally, they'll open up the gate and you can walk right across the street to the FedEx Forum. And they have a wrestling inspired wing joint that's attached and run out of the brewery called the New Wing Order. So that's enough of a reason for a visit right there. All right. I am drinking a Voodoo Ranger Juicy Hayes IPA. It's by New Belgium Brewing. It says out of Fort Collins, Colorado, Asheville, North Carolina, and Comstock, Michigan. So, you know,
00:32:45
Speaker
Lots of footprint here for new Belgian Brewing Company. But yeah, Voodoo Ranger, it's really good. I'm kind of picky about IPAs. Sometimes they're a little bit too much for me, but this is really good. All right, before we get back into the wrestling, we'll take a little detour and briefly let you guys discuss the series finale, question mark, of Ted Lasso. In the arms of the angel.
00:33:16
Speaker
Oh my gosh. So I know we jumped on the Ted Lasso bandwagon a couple of weeks ago. Seth made fun of me for dropping like four Ted Lasso references in the episode. Um, cause we were like right at the peak of like binging Ted Lasso and Seth was like, you know, this isn't a new show, right? I was like, I don't care. Like it's, it's new to me and I love it so much. It's just like a show that gives your heart a hug. Like it's just, it's a, it's a feel good show. Um, it laugh out loud. There's.
00:33:46
Speaker
drama. There's dramedy. There's comedy. It's just, uh, it's awesome. So, and the finale I thought was really good. I thought it was, it was pleasing without being overdone or underdone. Like it was just enough to keep you like, make you satisfied, but keep you wanting more.
00:34:08
Speaker
Yeah, it was a usually series finales are I mean, you either hate them or you love them. There's usually no in between because I mean, a lot of times they leave you just kind of on a cliffhanger, right? So this one, they did it right. Like it ended the way it should have ended.
00:34:26
Speaker
Um, everything came full circle and man, there were so many callbacks to the first season on the last episode. I loved it. It was just, it was really well done. Um, Jason's today kiss did a phenomenal job with that show. And I hope we get some spinoffs because you just kind of fall in love with the characters on that show more than anything. Like you just, everybody likes a certain character on that show.
00:34:47
Speaker
I like so many of the characters for different reasons. I love Roy and I love Jamie. Higgins is hilarious. If you don't watch the show, you're probably bored out of your mind right now. But definitely go watch the show. It's worth getting an Apple subscription just for the sheer fact of watching the show and then you can cancel. But yeah, it's good shit, pal.
00:35:10
Speaker
I love Danny. Danny's like one of my favorite characters. Oh, I love Danny Rojas. We are not brothers. Yeah, we are brothers. We are not brothers. Mark, I can't remember, dude. Are you a Ted Lasso watcher? I have not hopped on it yet. I definitely intend to. So she said. I definitely want to watch it. That's one of those things I haven't been able to sit down and actually
00:35:33
Speaker
Watch it so. If it makes you feel any better, Jordan told us about it. He kept poking us about watching Ted Lasso. We were like, okay, it's on our list, it's on our list. Then finally, we just started it and then it created this binge-worthy experience where we're just watching two episodes a night. You could breeze through the first two seasons in probably three or four days, man. They picked up the runtimes the last season.
00:35:59
Speaker
But yeah, it's still a pretty quick watch. I think it was about three weeks from start to finish that we watched the whole series. Yeah, and the cool thing is there's such a good story, like an overarching story arc, but you see all the characters have their own little arcs throughout the season, and I think everybody comes to, like you said, a comfortable circle at the end, and just the evolution of the characters has been phenomenal. So are we all in agreement we're gonna get it back in some form? I think in some form, yeah.
00:36:28
Speaker
I don't know. I've heard a lot of people talking about Ted lasso. And so it leads me to believe that there's still, there's still meat on the bone. Yeah. I appreciate a Keely Jones show. Oh my gosh. Seth, Seth was not impressed with Keely in the last season. He, her story line was just kind of a chase. Yeah. I don't know. I enjoyed her the first. I enjoyed her when she was like the clubs, like PR agent, but I could have done without the whole everything she did away from the team. I could have done without it.
00:36:56
Speaker
I don't know, man. I like a diamond dog show. I like Barbara a lot. And she was funny. She's hilarious. Like the blood part. She's like, yeah, finally. Yeah, I did. I did get a kick out of that. She was she was pretty funny character. Yeah, like I said, I totally appreciate what the you know, what Jason Sudeikis and Brendan Hunt and Brett Goldstein have said, you know, that they felt like they
00:37:20
Speaker
They told a really good story with this, but we know how it works, man. Where there's money to be made. Money trumps creative always. I know, which is so sad because I hate when my favorite shows just start to get like drugged through the mud. I'm just like, oh my gosh, what's going on? This is super morbid to say. Sopranos is by far my all-time favorite show.
00:37:40
Speaker
Same thing would happen if James Gandolfini hadn't had died. I have no doubt they would have, you know, they did the one little spin-off movie, it was like Sons of Newark or whatever. We'd probably be four deep on that or maybe even a total reboot of the show by now. Or you know, like you'd pick back up five years later on the show by now if he wouldn't have unfortunately passed away, man. Yeah, there was no way to replace James Gandolfini, so yeah, they just couldn't keep on.
00:38:07
Speaker
All right, let's go to Sunday. We'll start, we'll quickly get Battleground knocked out. Because Sheena, Jordan, have you guys watched Battleground yet? Or me and Marco the way to NXT fans? I watch it. I watch it. OK. Yeah, I thought it was a fun show, man. Like I said, I've been championing NXT for the last few months. It's the light on star power and the talents. Some of them are good. Some of them are still kind of on the improvement angle. But I just think it tells a really consistent story week to week, man. And it's like it's.
00:38:35
Speaker
kind of low stakes, man. I feel like it's a, I don't know if like lighthearted is the right word, but I don't feel like it's as epic as AEW or like main roster WWE. And it just makes for an easier, lighter watch. And I really enjoy it. I thought this was the closest they've come to a takeover since the black and gold NXT kind of died. Um, I mean, it definitely wasn't a takeover, but it came the closest to it in my mind so far.
00:38:56
Speaker
Yeah, die jacking just made me sad thinking about the takeover days. Die jacking, die jacking dragon off was outstanding. Like definitely gonna go back and watch because I love Ilya dragon off and I heard that he may have freakin like shoot broke his arm or something. So like I'm really sad if that's if that's true. Because I love that guy. He's freakin awesome, man.
00:39:20
Speaker
I've kind of gotten the vibe that they're going to work at angle like we saw with like Seamus and Cesaro where these guys beat the shit out of each other so hard that they eventually start to respect each other and see that for a tag team. And when they do like who the fuck could beat them in case at least at the NXT level. Nobody. No, no, they can put them on the main roster and nobody's beating them.
00:39:38
Speaker
Yeah. Cause DJ can go man. Like he, you know, he had his detour as T-bar or T-bones, whatever he was, man. Just think at the same time that the bloodline was starting, retribution was starting also, man. Talk about, talk about fork in the road for David to be creative, man. He had like one of the worst all time stories and one of the best all time stories launched by the exact same team at the exact same time. How the hell is that possible? I have no idea.
00:40:06
Speaker
Um, we, we got a dude, the, the main event that better be the last time those two wrestled it. I just get no, like, I don't know. Maybe I'm just like overlooking it. Cause I we've seen this match so many times, but I don't know, man, that, that match did nothing for me for them as the main event. Yeah. I agree. It is chemistry. Yeah. They don't think chemistry at all. That's all I was going to say. Yeah. So both, both times they're both epic wrestlers. Yeah. Yeah. It's just there.
00:40:36
Speaker
Their styles don't match up. The other thing is they've been so slow on the call-ups over the last like really two years, man. Like if this was the black and gold, NXT, Carmelo and Braun would both already be in the main roster. Like Braun's, I feel like Braun, you know, Carmelo still got a little bit of, you know, a little bit of rope left to go. There's still some cool things he could do with the championship, but dude, Braun's story in NXT has been told, man, like this dude's ready to go.
00:41:00
Speaker
If you got to put him on ice for a little bit before you have some creativity on the main roster do it but he's just taking up air time and taking up space in the next year to be fair. I mean, the, you're right the call ups were more frequent and with like, you know,
00:41:16
Speaker
like they happened quicker in these guys careers in the in the golden black days but uh dude what happened to those guys once they got to the main right you're right it was like it was like like horrible dude i mean think about freaking tamasso champa and freaking gargano when they freaking came to the bobbie rue was the hottest wrestler in the world when he got called exactly and he was dead on arrival
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah, he became a fucking diamond dog or whatever it was called. Dirty dog. Dirty dog. Dirty dog. I mean, that was actually semi interesting. That was after years of doing nothing after he got caught up. The Dirty Dog was like three years later. Even like, you know, Shinsuke, I mean, he ended up winning the Rumble and had his stringing match with AJ, but Shinsuke, you know, he should have been automatic main eventer like Samoa Joe. Yeah, pretty much
00:42:01
Speaker
There was a very low hit percentage on next to call-ups during the black and gold time for as awesome as black and gold was so You may be onto something Sheena. Maybe they're just trying to be more thoughtful with it But yeah, I do feel like it hurts that main event picture in NXT You know cuz they like I said, Bronn was pretty much presented as a main eventer from the moment he came in So what are they gonna exactly do with him now? Do you like take him back to the NXT midcard after you've been at the top of the mountain, you know, I mean supposedly he's moving up to the main roster because it looks like
00:42:31
Speaker
Uh, Baron Corbin is, uh, back at NXT. That was the best thing that happened. That was the best thing that happened in NXT this week. I'm not, not even joking. Baron Corbin coming back is a good thing for NXT. Yeah, I think so. His wrestling style is perfect for NXT, dude. He is good, dude. I just, I haven't been entertained with him since he shaved his hair, dude. I liked the lone wolf character I dug.
00:42:56
Speaker
Like between Constable Corbin and happy Corbin. The problem is, if he grows his hair back out right now, his hairline is going to be in the middle of his head. His hair just looks like venom. It's thin and wispy. It just looks like it's trying to wrap you up in its evil intent. It's horrible. Go ahead, Jordan. He's like Undertaker, but like 15 years younger when Undertaker was rocking the eight head.
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah. The scallop. But even Undertaker's hair that he did have, though, was thick. It wasn't all wispy and thinned out. Yeah, it was thick with two C's. You know what I mean? It was Baron Corbin. He did the right thing when he shaved his head, dude. You get to a point where you just gotta be like, all right, it's gotta go. I agree with Seth. The gimmick flopped after he lost his hair, but yeah, it had to go.
00:43:53
Speaker
I think you're dead on though, Jordan. I do think that the main event did end up being the weak point of the show. Moving to NXT Weekly TV, man. I don't know if you guys kept up with that as well. The masked attacker that's been taking out all the ladies was revealed. It was Blair Davenport. I've never been so heartbroken in my wrestling life, man. I didn't even want to speak it into existence because I was like, I'm not going to get my hopes up. But yeah, dude, I just know it's like Mandy's coming back, man.
00:44:21
Speaker
That was the official wet fart of the week. That's a throwback Jordan. Shout out to all of our listeners that have been here since the wet fart days. I mean, just think of how crazy would have been if it was, that would have been the perfect way to bring Mandy back. They had to know that they were going to cause speculation that it was Mandy, which, you know, ultimately it does nothing good for Blair Davenport. Like that would have been so crazy if it was Mandy.
00:44:42
Speaker
Mandy Rose was not coming back. She's doing OnlyFans content with Paige Van Zant right now. She's making millions of dollars right now. Well, not even that, like her. Yeah. I mean, obviously the imagery that she portrays now is way beyond what they can bring back from WWE. Oh, really? She's gone hardcore. We lost our free feed, man. It's gotten racier?
00:45:08
Speaker
Oh, no, no. The feed's back, bro. Like, we're back in action. You've been holding out on set. I deleted that whole shady app that Phil Dunnett had us set up with, man. I need to get back in the game. We're back in action. Okay. I need to redownload. Wow. I didn't want to say it because I don't want to get shut down. Mandy's getting racier by the week.
00:45:30
Speaker
Yeah. OK, because yesterday getting bored with it, man, it was like it's only it's only so long. You can see like the like, you know, skin and max level stuff before it's like, all right, what are we doing here? I know. I know. We're on soft core porn level now. Like she's shown the old beaver off and everything. Oh, those are natural reaction. Yeah.
00:45:55
Speaker
She's got her buckies out. She's showing the rose petals. Oh my God, that's funny. All right, let's get to what was, without a doubt, the most hype, the biggest event of the weekend. Arguably, AEW's equivalent of WrestleMania, double or nothing. What did you guys think of AEW's big show?
00:46:17
Speaker
There was some surprises. The fact that Jade won and then her dumb ass freaking smart Mark Sterling put her up again, caused her to freaking lose. Never shoot an open challenge on a pay-per-view. That's cursed. Yeah, that's instant loss. As soon as I could start to like, you know, it came into focus on what's happening, I was just like, no, no, do not do this.
00:46:45
Speaker
As soon as the stats music hit, I know it was a wrap. It was cool seeing Chris Statlander back, but yeah, my girl Jade, finally her reign came to an end. I hope she's on to bigger and better things, but just much like WWE's women's division, AEW's women's division is severely lacking in storyline and just
00:47:09
Speaker
interest. Yeah. Jade and Tony is going to be good though. Like that's going to be it. They'll make that a good match. Like there, there's no way. Do you think that's, do you think that's where they're going though? Cause I feel like, I don't know. I'm a huge Jade Mark man. I feel like Britt Baker is going to get that belt back, dude. You know, I think the only reason Tony won is cause
00:47:27
Speaker
Jamie Hader was hurt. I see brick in that belt. I think they're gonna have Jade take down Brit to get the belt. Yeah That would make it that would make it mean more I think but also like I just feel like At what point are we just gonna be like shit man, like we're even Britt Baker the belt again like come on
00:47:44
Speaker
Whoa, she's only had it once I know but she had it for a long time She's been the most prominent woman in the freakin division. I just feel like I don't think she's really had many She hasn't had any attempts at though. They've kind of kept her. I mean, she is definitely without a doubt She's the most hyped woman in a W. But yeah, I thought there's a good job keeping her away from the belt though She's been in like, you know, Jamie Hader shadow for a while, but I
00:48:06
Speaker
Because yeah, I thought they were going to, when Jamie Hader started getting the big time face reactions, I thought they were going to do the, you know, if it was WWE, Britt would have been healed three months ago just being the jealous chick. I guess it's just because like she was like the only like meaningful woman in AEW for like the first two years of their existence, you know? Yeah, true. I mean, maybe that's why you guys weren't Reho fans.
00:48:29
Speaker
No. I mean, dude. A resounding no. Brit is there. I mean, Brit is their OG like homegrown talent. So I mean, I get it like. Yeah, she's the single. She's the single women's pillar. I just feel like I think and no shots at Tony Storm. I love Tony Storm. It's awesome. But Tony's awesome. I think I think Jade went in that belt is a huge moment. And I just think you could you know, I feel like if it's Jade versus Brit, if Jade can
00:48:57
Speaker
you know, continue to improve. That could potentially may have been a pay-per-view. You know what I mean? That's one thing AW's never done. They've never had the females made of in a pay-per-view. So that, you know, that would definitely be a feather in their cap to kind of put that check in the box sometime down the road. I think Jade still, she's still got a little bit of an improvement to go. So I don't know. It'd be interesting to see like, I'd be all for it, man. I definitely wouldn't complain if they immediately just pivot her towards going for the world title. But
00:49:21
Speaker
I could see them maybe doing some side feud for a little bit to just kind of bide her time. But that was definitely, obviously that wasn't the best match. That was definitely the most shocking part of the pay-per-view though. Yeah, I was legit shocked. I feel like the highs on this pay-per-view were really high and the lows were real bad. Jamie Hader obviously wrestled injured. So her and Tony Storm did not even really have a match. So that was obviously a pretty big low.
00:49:50
Speaker
shout out to them for just pulling off what they did dude the fact that hater went out there with what they said is a really serious shoulder injury is wild why didn't she why didn't she bruise it up and then like reveal a giant bruise yeah on her shoulder well you can see like you can see like you can see purpling when she pulled off the tape yeah she did pull off the tape and that was bruising yeah yeah she was definitely fucked up but yeah
00:50:13
Speaker
They've had too many forfeited belts in AWS already TK was like, you got to fucking go. Yeah. Yeah. We're not doing another interim. He's like, I can, he's like, I cannot go on TV and announce another forfeited belt. The opener, the battle Royal phenomenal. That was my favorite match of the night.
00:50:33
Speaker
I agree man. I don't think it was the best match of the night. There's other stuff that was, you know, technically way more impressive and better, but that was my most entertaining match of the night, man. And normally God of warriors suck, dude, but that was awesome. No, Orange Cassidy is.
00:50:47
Speaker
He's their MVP, dude. Weekend and week out. I don't care what anyone does. Legend, man. He's fighting every week to defend his title. Then he goes into this one versus all type deal. I'll have Roman Reigns back at the Royal Rumble when he had his title. It was awesome, dude. From the start to the finish, man. Like I said, that was my favorite match of that whole time. Yeah. The finish with Swerve was just awesome. Me and Seth were just going back like, oh.
00:51:16
Speaker
No, it was great. If I was running a wrestling school, man, I would show my students tape of orange casting and be like, look at how much response and reaction this guy gets from doing so little. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:31
Speaker
It's pretty wild him in swerve. I'd be down for like a three month story with them to just wrestling every other week like swerve is so fucking talented. That dude is 100% bro. He's one of the most underrated guys in the game right now. Did you guys watch any of the media scrum that they did?
00:51:48
Speaker
You know I'm totally into this. I love a good media scrum. Gina just watches the event so she has some context for the media scrum. Did you see that? It's like the reunion show on Bravo. It's like we're all getting back together and we're just going to rehash everything that just happened. Orange Cassidy, they had them out there. They asked them. They're like, oh, so you're defending your title volleyball every week.
00:52:13
Speaker
You came out victorious tonight. Do you consider yourself one of the best wrestlers in the world? Adios.
00:52:20
Speaker
Nope, not even close. I love it. I love, I love this self-awareness and you know, speaking of the media scrum, you know, MJF and the media scrum basically said like, you know, I'm not getting paid to fucking get out there and break my back and like, you know, I have discussions and you know, and I mean, that's, that's orange Cassidy dude. Like he is out there winning matches without having to like, you know, I mean, granted, I love a good high spot match. I'm not going to just sit here and, you know, pretend like I don't love
00:52:48
Speaker
a bunch of freaking suicide dives and a bunch of high flying moves and all kinds of things, right? Love it. But at the same time, work smarter, not harder. And I think Orange Cassidy is proof of that, that you can find your place in the business where you don't have to absolutely annihilate your body and your brain to get over and be a freaking champ.
00:53:10
Speaker
Dude, he, he has really elevated that belt. Like, I mean, it was already like the second biggest belt may W, but I mean, he has made it like one B to the big goal. Like, I don't know, man, just it being on, it's going to be a moment when someone finally beats him for it, man. Yeah.
00:53:26
Speaker
They're going to have a choice to make on who they want to beat him because it's definitely going to need to elevate somebody when they do it. I'm hoping he goes a thousand days like Robin with that title. Just beats everybody and goes with the longest rain ever.
00:53:43
Speaker
The low key, one of my most wanted AEW figures right now is orange Casti with the backpack with the, uh, with the belt, man. I got our buddy Dan turquoise made me that belt already. Maybe I can just get on, uh, get on eBay and find a little miniature backpack to put the belt in. Maybe they'll, uh, maybe they'll let we'll Osprey come back and we'll also pray when the title, I think if there's, if there's bent nods, I think he's probably got a very good shot at being the guy to take the, take the belt off of. That would actually make a lot of sense. Yeah.
00:54:10
Speaker
One match I was, in addition to Battle Royal, another match I was really surprised at how entertaining I was by it was Wardlow and Christian's ladder match, man. I thought that was way better than it had any business to be. Wardlow looked great, man, and it's a pretty dang good match.
00:54:26
Speaker
Yeah, they've definitely put it down. You can definitely tell there was a lot of thought that went into that match because there were some cool spots in that match. The latter spot obviously is the one that stands out the most where Wardlow did the Swanton, which
00:54:41
Speaker
Dude, that dude is way too big to be doing that. That was like the Jeff Hardy ladder. Well, it was the Jeff Hardy ladder. It was a tribute to him who was his favorite wrestler, but they had to have all the refs come out and hold down the ladder. Just like, bro, this is a, we're really getting up there on the danger factor now. Yeah. The, uh,
00:55:07
Speaker
The four pillars match was about what I was expecting, man. It was really, really good. Some entertaining spots, some really nice sequences, but I don't think anybody had a snowball's chance in hell of beating MJF for that belt. I did love that MJF was yelling every time somebody was doing like a flip or anything. He's like, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit.
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah, he's like the perfect mix of technical expertise while still mixing in some comedy and just being like an old school heel, man. I've been on record, he's not my favorite, but dude is talented out of this world and for what he's trying to do, he executes it pretty much perfectly every time he's on screen. Yeah, 100%. His media appearance afterwards was amazing.
00:55:53
Speaker
And I don't know why Tony Khan sits out there because it just makes Tony Khan look like such a little bitch dude I mean I know it's all like worked and whatever but still at the same time like I'm like Tony is that that is that the character you're trying to portray is like a little you know baby back bitch because that's what's coming across every time that he told him hey Tony calm down calm down
00:56:12
Speaker
Calm down. Calm down. It's his reactions. I just watch Tony Khan's reactions mostly do that whole thing. It's just... Yes, same. He just looks like he doesn't want them to say... Like him saying anything or he's... Yeah, he just widens his eyes and shakes his head. And he'd be like, gulp and see Adam's apple.
00:56:32
Speaker
It's hilarious. Even Tony, even Tony Storm punked him out, dude. Tony Storm came out there and was like, you know, let's be real, Tony. Like this, this interim thing that you tried to do was bullshit. And I was like, dang. They always shit on Tony every time. Yeah, everybody's shitting on Tony. I mean, even Martha Hart shit on Tony by making him come out and wear that fucking fedora. We didn't even need to talk about that. Good.
00:56:57
Speaker
the own heart cup has got to be one of the things that when it was originally announced last year, I had super duper high hopes for that just ended up being a total wet fart. Like the last year it sucked. Like I would call that just being a one time thing. Exactly. And you know, we I've defended Martha, like through the years, like I feel like I've been on both sides of the spectrum. Like, you know, yes, I understand her position. Yes, I understand the fans position, like Brett's position, like all of it. Right. But
00:57:25
Speaker
Dude, whatever she's trying to do with this Owen Hart Charity Cup situation, it is absolutely not for wrestling. I mean, she was like, everybody come out here and you're a fascinator. Do you think there are more than three fucking people in that audience that even know what a fascinator is? What's a fascinator? The only reason I know what a fascinator is is because I'm from Kentucky and all my friends go to the Derby shit and they wear those fascinators on their hats. It's like an adornment on your hat. Those fancy little ribbons. I didn't fucking know that.
00:57:55
Speaker
Yeah, I think that thing that I thought it was like one of those like Spanx things No, that thing that Martha was wearing on her hat is like a fascinator like you make like big feathers and like Yeah, exactly dude
00:58:10
Speaker
Nobody here, like you're talking to the wrong crowd. Like we're not, we're not a charitable crowd, dude. You know what I mean? Like get your ass out of here. I mean, I think we are. I mean, I think wrestling fans are charitable. Not in a charity, exactly, but not in like a charity ball foundation type of way. You know what I mean? Wrestling fans freaking come together when it's needed. You know what I mean? We do what we have to do.
00:58:29
Speaker
We put our money on the line, put our money where our mouth is a lot of times, and support good causes. But we're not sitting down at a buffet dinner, or a catered dinner with our fascinators on, and doing silent auctions and shit. You know what I mean? That's not the wrestling dance. I'll show you. See, I always thought they would do something with Brody Lee, with the TNT.
00:58:51
Speaker
championship to like a, like a Brodie Lee invitational tournament and whoever wins. This is how, if this is how they treat, this is how they treat, you know, the, the dearly departed then at Brodie Lee's better off, just like, you know, not, not being mentioned and you need further. Well, yeah, I thought they always did me. I thought they did good by Brodie Lee.
00:59:08
Speaker
during that, all of that stuff. I just think dude, so Martha Hart's been weird on camera every time she's been out there. TK is always weird. And then the tournaments didn't really make sense, right? Like Adam Cole went on the men's side and you had like fucking undisputed era, like interfering in the match. Like that's a tournament like this should be like all class, like prestige. Yeah, exactly. Like let's go out and put on some good wrestling and you know, may the best man win. Like they just, they booked it. Like it was just a series of regular AW matches. Yeah, I figured they would do something like, you know,
00:59:37
Speaker
for Brody Lee since he was like, you know, they, you know, they kind of, they kind of retired that the red TNT championship with him. Like, you know, maybe do like a, you know, to find a contender for the TNT championship for Wardlow. So like you have like a, you hold like a tournament over like the course of a few weeks. And then that person gets a shot at Wardlow, like just to keep like, you know, cause that, you know, Brody's kind of in tune with AEW and AEW Dynamite. So like, I don't know. I think
01:00:05
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good idea. Like once a year, the Brodie Lee Invitational winner gets a shot at the TNT belt, man. Yeah, that'd be cool as hell. They do it like on a pay-per-view or like, what are their, um, those like, what do you call it? Those like pumped up shows. Brodie makes sense. You know, Owen and AEW was already a Jace, but we were willing, we were willing to let it go because we were like so, just so happy to have like Owen's memory, you know, be alive again and you know, to get figures. Yeah, that really good figure.
01:00:34
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. The figure sucked. The Owen Hart cup sucked. All of this has been not great, but, uh, you know, I mean, what would redeem it all is if Brett presents the, uh, the belts to the winners that they got to get Brad involved in. It's just a missing piece, man. It just, it feels, it feels weird not having Brett at all involved in this man. Cause he's done more than, or at least give us an Owen Hart hologram, right?
01:00:57
Speaker
Oh, they said that would be cool too, man. You know, I know I'm sad. I feel like we're just scratching the surfaces. What we could do with the holograms in wrestling. So yeah, I'd be there. I want him in hologram and like the caution tape, uh, singlet and everything. Yeah. We just see it. We just see the AI and AI Owen heart. Yeah. Are they still at odds? Like Brett and, uh,
01:01:23
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's I don't think it's like, I think it's like a cold war. Yeah, it's not fiery. But yeah, you know, Brett held a lot of animosity towards Martha for all the years for just completely turning her back on the wrestling industry and kind of shutting out, you know, the fans from being able to really celebrate Owen the way we'd want to. And then she holds a lot of animosity towards the hearts because she believes that
01:01:45
Speaker
They all, you know, she believes there's basically a conspiracy that they kind of worked against her in the lawsuit against, you know, Vince McMahon and WWE to try to, you know, stay in WWE's good graces. Oh, yeah. You know, obviously, it's a mess, man. That's why, like I said, I don't really got anything bad to say about Martha Hart as far as her stances, man. I kind of I kind of get both sides of it. Really, really just watch the dark side of the ring, you know.
01:02:11
Speaker
Was that you can watch the dark side of the ring and get the backstory if you're not familiar. No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're right I was thinking wrestling with shadows man. Yeah. Yeah, the dark side of the ring did a pretty good job breaking it down. It's uh Just an absolutely horrible nightmare of a situation. Yeah tragic tragic all around for all parties involved Yeah, so yeah, I'm not gonna pass judgment anybody involved what I will pass judgment on is
01:02:35
Speaker
No, AEW has basically four real pay-per-views a year. If you want to count Forbidden Door, maybe say we'll have five, we'll see what happens all in. But for the most part, they have four traditional pay-per-views a year. And you're going to end one of those four shows with Takeshita turning heel, man. Nothing against him, man. I think he's a solid performer, really good mid-card. But I don't know how that's your big reveal and how you end your main event of one of these four pay-per-views, man. Where are you guys at on that one?
01:03:02
Speaker
That's what I want. OK, I want to make it sound a little more wet. I'll say this. I wouldn't have had as much of a problem with it if we didn't just watch a match where there was exploding shoes and Matt Jackson getting his foot in tax and stuff. It was just a normal match like whatever it is, what it is. But dude, it was an anarchy in the arena match and you end it like that. First of all, he blew the spot and accidentally tackled Don Callis first.
01:03:29
Speaker
So like already not off to a great start, like, I don't know, man. It's just that match should have ended. I mean, it wasn't going to clean obviously. Cause it was a fucking no holds barred match, but for it to end like that on a knee to Kenny Omega's face, like really, that's what we're ending that match on. Like out of everything that happened in that match, a knee is what ended that match. Like, come on, dude. Yeah.
01:03:56
Speaker
It's just kind of hard to suspend disbelief sometimes with AW. They do some dumb shit like you'll have a 40 minute match and they're like, all right, let's end it on a roll up. Dude, I will say I fucking loved Kenny Omega's gear. I didn't see for sure, man. I thought it was I read that as like a true like a tribute to the British Bulldogs, man. It was like Captain America gear, bro.
01:04:17
Speaker
That was Captain America. What is Captain America worn white? The elite. It was written in Marvel writing and everything on his trunks. Like, dude, it was he had Captain America knee pads on, bro. Oh, yeah. Well, I was already like I was on our, you know, 11 of an all day bender dude at that point, man. But I actually have not thought it was British Bulldogs. It was Captain America because they did the spot with the
01:04:42
Speaker
Hey, he had the shield as the trash can. Crash, trash can and shield. And he did like he did like the fight scene with Thanos. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. Right. Man, you really were cooked. I should have known it was something way more lame than the British than the British Bulldogs. You know.
01:05:01
Speaker
Damn. I must got suspended on Facebook for telling Seth I was going to beat his ass for saying it was British Bulldog and that captioned American. Bro, you got our whole group in trouble because you're an admin of the group. I woke up and there was like red flags all over my Facebook and I was like, what the fuck did somebody do? And it was like, it was like Jordan Wells. It wasn't even that bad either. No, it's that I was going to beat your ass. I mean, that was totally something that Jordan would say. And like we would all just like laugh at.
01:05:28
Speaker
It would have been a big deal if you were just a regular member, but because you're an admin, our whole group is flagged and like under caution now. Yeah. And so when people come to search for our group, it's going to say like, you know, this group
Broadcast Issues and Group Chat Drama
01:05:38
Speaker
has problems. Yeah, there's hostility in this group. So if everybody else keep it, keep, keep it Tronquillo, man, or they use code words. If you're going to kick somebody's ass, like, you know, like hit the at dollar sign, dollar sign. Come on, man. Everything that we've said in that group, that's what almost gets me taken out. Like really?
01:05:57
Speaker
Yeah, it is pretty funny man. Like there's been some other like, cause you know, we get, I don't know how many of the notifications you guys have seen or maybe me shooting to get to them first, but there's some really just random things that ended up getting flat. Yeah. It'll be like so ridiculous. That day when we were complaining about Peacock when I think somebody was like, I'm like, I'm like, you know,
01:06:16
Speaker
Kick peacocks ass that we have like three people get flagged. Yeah, it's like one that really peacock David a bee paper views and it was a bunch of technical difficulties We were getting in hot water for that. But well, yeah, it's it's funny that what the Facebook bots pick up on Yeah, I said I didn't even say I was gonna beat your ass I said I was gonna knock you out next time I saw you like really that's what we're getting flagged for There's a responsibility when you're an admin dude, I'm not typing anymore in that group I'm just gonna say hello guys
01:06:46
Speaker
Does anybody have any closing thoughts on double or nothing before we get into this this supersized listener mail?
Miami Heat Playoff Struggles
01:06:53
Speaker
No, let's dive into your bag. Oh, hello.
01:07:07
Speaker
All right. Our first comment, this isn't a question, but our first comment comes in from Mike Rivera. He just says, let's go heat. That's his, this is Jordan. Jordan got any thoughts on the heat? Best of luck, buddy. It's not going to go well for you. We're recording right after game one ended.
01:07:23
Speaker
And, uh, yeah, it is, uh, it wasn't good from the start, but you know, from, I just don't, I think they're going to be outgunned van. I just think that they, uh, there's never enough to the table to take it. It's still a hell of a run. It's crazy. The heater even in the second eight seat ever, but yeah, I don't think they got a shot.
Fantasy Wrestling Match Booking
01:07:42
Speaker
Um, the OG fig kid, uh, turnbuckle taverns, the OG fig kid, Thomas Montalto says you get to book a program with Seth Rollins and Bret Hart. How do you book the program and then book the match? This question is only for one man and one man only. I'm going to give it to, give it to, uh, the heel husband, Seth Phelps is right up his, up his alley.
01:08:01
Speaker
So the story, I think it's just the classic, you know, I'm assuming this is like 97, 98 Brett against modern day Rollins. I think it's just, you know, legend killer type storyline, right? Rollins thinks he's the, you know, new kid on the block. They could, they could take down the, the old grizzled vet. I think they have a bang up match and I'm picturing an ending. You know, Brett could, could figure out a way to execute this man. Seth goes for the curb stomp and somehow Brett grabs the foot and puts him in the sharpshooter, makes him tap, man, break. It's the victory hit man goes over.
01:08:32
Speaker
There you have it, Tom. Sam Bro says, what's the first Scott Steiner elite you think they'll put out? What are your, what are your thoughts? I mean, the, the common one would be the Steiner brothers one, right? With the Michigan jackets and stuff. Like I feel like that's where you got to start. But if you're not going to start there, give me the, the metal headdress and a big pop of pump as your baby.
01:08:57
Speaker
Yeah. Anybody have any beef with those picks? Nope. I think he's got it, man. I think we're going to get a big Papa Pump first. I see the Steiner Brothers being Ultimate Edition. Yeah.
01:09:12
Speaker
Do you, have we, we haven't gotten two pack ultimate additions, have we at all? Yeah. All the policy and collections. Oh yeah. Okay. The, uh, couple of CDO comic con. You're right. No mainline. It's always been some sort of exclusive. We haven't had like, you can't go to the target and get like ultimate edition two pack. Those would be cool. Um, speaking of two packs, Sambro also says, who's each of your all time favorite tag teams? Heart foundation.
01:09:40
Speaker
Yeah, I'll go. Obviously Heart Foundation, because Brett's my favorite, scratching them off the list. I think I'll probably go with the Rockers, man. I've been going back and watching early 90s WWF and really got appreciation for the stuff they were doing. They were really ahead of their time, so I'll go Rockers number two. Marco, you got a favorite tag team of all time, besides the Usos. Besides the... Let me go with the Dudley's. Nice. I think. Not a bad choice at all.
01:10:11
Speaker
Jordan road warriors, a hundred percent. Yeah. They're, they're right up there, dude. It's, it's hard to pick against the freaking road warriors.
Jade's Future in Wrestling
01:10:19
Speaker
Um, Sambro also says, do you think Jade takes a break or immediately goes into a baby face role against Tony storm? We kind of discussed this earlier in the show. I don't think she's going to take a break because Jade does still need to get some more experience. Like she's legit had, you know, 60 matches, man. That's 16 O is for real. So I think she's just going to, uh, I think she's going to just go do some stuff away from the belt for a little bit though.
01:10:45
Speaker
All right. Sanbro says, prefer your bacon crispy or floppy. Um, I kind of like a good middle ground.
The Great Bacon Debate
01:10:53
Speaker
I don't like it to be like burnt crispy where it's like, it's kind of like you touch it and it just like falls apart and like crumbles. Yeah. But I don't like it to be like.
01:11:01
Speaker
like super fatty either. I mean I'll eat bacon no matter how it comes but if I'm having my ideal bacon I like it to be cooked kind of just slowly you know no char just cook it on like a you know a nice low medium heat and let it get all the way all the way done where it's nice and crispy but still got a little bit of chewy to it. What about you guys? Same medium bacon medium.
01:11:24
Speaker
They had to pick one or the other. I'd go floppy over crispy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like crispy. It's hard on sandwiches. You end up having bacon crumbs go everywhere. But also, if you have it floppy on sandwiches, you end up stringy, kind of pulling against it. It can slide out of the sandwich like the whole piece of bacon. I ain't fucking around when I bite into a sandwich. I'm chopping through that fish in lettuce tomato. It's getting cut, dude. You can take little soft ass bites. Maybe that happens.
01:11:51
Speaker
Oh man. Sambro, what's each of your favorite eras of Undertaker? I'm in the minority. Mine was his American badass persona and the OG fig kid says that he's down with the American badass too.
01:12:07
Speaker
All right, Jordan, what's your, what's your favorite? Yes, me too. Ministries ministries. Definitely. I just, I don't think it gets better than that. They like his, the outfits stone cold and dude, everything he wore to the ring was incredible. Like all his jackets and cloaks and stuff were awesome. Yeah. And he had like his, you know, cult of freaking, you know, minions and naked midi running behind him. It was great.
01:12:34
Speaker
Yeah, Seth, you got a different favorite. Black and purple. Black and purple, OG. SummerSlam94 to SummerSlam96. Marco. Yeah, you stole mine. I was going to say that. Black and purple is the way to go. Yeah, that's a good one. There's great things about all of ministry. It was really cool. Black and gray was badass. But when I hear somebody mentions Undertaker to me, first thing I think is the black and purple. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Black and purple, too.
01:13:03
Speaker
Sambro, who do you think would have made the biggest impact during the WCW WWE invasion angle if all of WCW was available at the time?
WCW's Impact on WWE Invasion
01:13:15
Speaker
Goldberg. Jordan, you got some thoughts? Yeah, Goldberg. Yeah.
01:13:20
Speaker
I think so too, man. At that time, he was, I mean, shortly before WCW died, he was arguably the biggest wrestler in the world at that time. I mean, everybody was fantasy booking him in stone cold. I just, I feel like him being part of the invasion would have made that angle 10 times better than it was. Sting would have been cool too. He would have been a good, uh,
01:13:42
Speaker
Yeah, but we knew that was definitely not going to happen. Like, yeah, dude, him and him is possible in wrestling. Well, I feel like I feel like even if they signed Sting at the time, I feel like Sting works better. It's just like a standalone character. Like if I'm going to be booking it, I have the invasion going on and I put Sting back up in the rafters. Yeah. And then we just, you know, he can come down eventually and
01:14:03
Speaker
You could have WWE and WCW recruiting him, but I think Goldberg would have worked because he was just a meathead, like fired up. Like I could see him totally. He would have been awesome to lead the charge for the invasion. It would have kept WWE from doing that stupid Steve Austin like turn where he joined with him. Like, yeah, Goldberg would have made a ton of sense in that time period.
01:14:23
Speaker
All right. Who's going over in a battle Royal between the four of you? This question is from Sanbro. I mean, I gotta say myself, I think we would all work together to get Jordan over first. Oh yeah. And then, and then, uh, I would just end up taking the two of you out. I'm like the big Sean tossing all three of you over at the same time. It's going to be the shortest Royal rumble ever. We gotta work the legs. You gotta work the legs. Chop, chop the big man.
01:14:48
Speaker
Yeah, Jordan's going to be hanging onto the second rope. We're going to have his legs trying to push him over, push him over, push him over, and then Jordan's going to skin the cat. All right. Now we've gone too far. Only cat on skin, never mind. Okay.
01:15:05
Speaker
Oh man. Sam Bro, on the Double J Podcast this week, Jeff said Charlotte was the women's wrestling goat.
Greatest Women's Wrestler Debate
01:15:14
Speaker
What do you guys think? I think Seth has thoughts on this. What are your thoughts on Charlotte? I think he's right, man. There's other people you can make a case for, right? There's other people in the argument. It's not an MJ situation or an MJ LeBron situation where it's just two that are head and shoulders above, but
01:15:31
Speaker
I think Charlotte's it, man. As far as entering success, the impact, like the change that she's kind of helped push along. Yeah, I go. I think he's right. Yeah, I can't argue. Jordan, Marco, you got any, got any thoughts on women's wrestling and who may or may not be the GOAT?
01:15:46
Speaker
No, I think it, I think it is an MJ and Lebron thing. It's, it's either her or Trish. I don't think there's anybody else to me. I, I, I want your blaze would say otherwise. Yeah. Sess eyes perked up a little bit. I feel like a Lunderblaze and Trish got, they, they both have the same issue, man. Like when you start to discuss them on this conversation, it's no fault of them, but it's the era they wrestled in. It's hard to judge them. Like if we could see them in this era, we'd really go stack it up. They were absolutely by far.
01:16:17
Speaker
the most dominating, defining women of their errors. But I wonder, Blaze is like, as far as stateside goes, the women's wrestling division between WWF and WCW was like eight people. And Trish's wasn't much better if you talk about actual wrestlers, not people that were just there for tits and ass. Hey, do you want to know the beauty of that statement? We are watching Trish in this era at 50 years old, and she's still throwing it down. Can't you just beat Becky Lynch? Yeah. Yeah. Fair point.
01:16:39
Speaker
Fair point, but it's a fair point. But again, she like, let's be real. She's not. She's not peak Trish. I mean, and that's no, that's no shade to her. I mean, I don't expect anybody to be the same person at 50 that they are at 30. You know, making some peaks. She doesn't look 50. I'll tell you that. I mean, that's a fucking wine that's aging with grace. Let me tell you, I feel like she did face Charlotte as well in a retirement match that match 19. Yes.
01:17:08
Speaker
I feel like if Charlotte at her peak met Trish at her peak though, I feel like Charlotte's going over. Oh, Charlotte is 100% the better women's wrestler, but I just feel like those two are the two top for me. Yeah. Charlotte, Charlotte's just a specimen dude. Like she's just strong and just brawny and yeah. Becky's got a hell of a resume, but I feel like Becky's never been that credible in ring. She's always been like the underdog lawyer and she's a heel. She's been a way she'd do it. And like, I don't think anybody's ever been.
01:17:36
Speaker
intimidated to get in the ring with Becky. Like, you know, I'm talking kayfabe now, obviously, whereas I felt like people would be intimidated to get in there with Trish or get in there with Charlotte. And Charlotte's got the whole presentation, dude. She's got the whole flair, like, like, you know, the pyro, the robes, like the entrance, like everything about Charlotte screams WWE wrestler, like, you know, like top, top performer, just everything about her presentation. Yeah.
01:18:06
Speaker
The Four Horsemen. She said, sorry, it's an inside joke between set and time. There was this horrible promo that Charlotte cut on the Miz like in 2015 where it was just... It was off. It was hard to watch. And the way she enunciated The Four Horsemen, we just use it around here. It's absolutely ridiculous, but I will always think of that. Even though she's the goat, I will always think of that any time I think of Charlotte.
Podcast Commercials Critique
01:18:36
Speaker
Sambro, what commercial on podcasts do you guys hear the most? Blue Chew, Manscaped. I feel like I hear like, it's either meal prep or mental health. Like Better Help is always on. Better Help is always on. Or it's like a various different meal plans, you know, like, here, you don't have to fucking cook, we're gonna send you your meals already in a box, you know, like,
01:18:59
Speaker
When I hear a lot that's stupid as fuck, dude, it's just a pre-script that they give to a bunch of different podcasts because I've heard like the Conrad podcast. I've heard the Ringer do it. Steve Austin used to do it on his, it's a Geico ad. Jordan, feel free to heal off on this one as well. Fuck Geico. The start of the ad read is, do you buy or rent your home? Of course you do. It's like no fucking shit.
01:19:25
Speaker
What's the other option? I'm squatting. I'm squatting. I'm squatting or I'm a fucking homeless guy. Under a bridge, listen to this fucking stupid wrestling podcast. That just never made sense to me that that's how they start the show. Do you buy or rent your home? I wish you do. Hey, Gina. It's like somebody told him the generic, you got to get them with the hook line. They're going to listen like, oh yeah, that's me. I do.
01:19:49
Speaker
Sheen, I gotta I gotta tell you something, Naughty Bro, Geico. So you hate me as an insurance guy, you hate the government, you're gonna really hate Geico because their government ran.
01:19:59
Speaker
Did not know that. Yeah. Geico is a lizard. Is it an acronym? No wonder, no, you know what? Now it makes more sense why their mascot is a fucking lizard. Like the lizard people. I mean, come on. Hey, they also have, like, have one of the worst. It's all making sense. They also have one of the worst claims satisfaction in the country. Wow.
01:20:23
Speaker
Shocking the government would fuck you. Yeah, exactly. The government has a low satisfaction rating. Yeah. The GEICO acronym is, it's like a government employees insurance company. So it is a government rating. Interesting. Yeah. Like USA always brags. They're like for the military. Like GEICO is technically the company that's for military more than anybody. Yeah.
01:20:50
Speaker
Yeah. And insurance wrap up for the week. Yes. On that note. Go Geico. No, do not. Well, just in case there's someone listening. I don't care. If you work for Geico, you need to go work for another insurance company.
01:21:07
Speaker
Start your own agency. Sambro, who are your famed characters in wrestling that everyone loves but you
Wrestling Characters Disliked
01:21:16
Speaker
aren't a fan of? I get heat for this a lot, but I thought Gene O'Connor was so annoying. Also, when I was a kid, I thought Jim Duggan was terrible. Those are two horrible takes. We love all the questions I ask every week, but yeah, Jim Duggan is one of the nicest wrestlers I've ever met. Gene O'Connor is one of the nicest people I've ever met. Me and Gene was the man. Me and Gene is the man.
01:21:37
Speaker
I gotta hear this. How is he doing? I'll go modern era on the answer. I'll say Maxwell Jacob Friedman. Oh my God. You know, singing his praises earlier. I'm just not a fan of the guy. I don't know. Me and Jim Duggan got heat though, man. Take the lens off, tough guy. You should have taken the lens off, dude. No, he said works better with the lens off tough guy. Was he right or wrong?
01:22:01
Speaker
He was, he was absolutely right. Sheena hands me this fancy camera and says, Hey, take a picture with the lens already on. Like, I don't fucking know what I'm doing. I use a cell phone. How random was that? That she took you freaking DSLR to wrestle con to everybody else has taken phones. Dude, I got some epic photos during that weekend. Take a picture at the lens.
01:22:24
Speaker
With, uh, yeah, I got my pictures with Brett. I had all those pictures from, you know, the best NXT that ever was, or the NXT takeover that never was. Uh, I got some excellent photos from that, but yeah, that DSLR, uh, RIP, I ended up just living with my phone, but I love, I love taking pictures of that thing. I hated carrying it around. So I ended up selling that thing, um, about a secondhand. So it wasn't, it wasn't a huge loss, but
01:22:50
Speaker
Anyway, Sheena set me up. You guys got that. Everybody loves, but you guys hate. Who does everybody love that I hate? Oh, yeah. All you all you fuckers love. What's her name?
01:23:03
Speaker
Oh my God, the figure that I hate. Nyla Rose. Nyla Rose, all you mofos like Nyla Rose. Hey, it's pride. I won't talk ill of Nyla Rose in June, but every other month, every other month is open season for Nyla Rose. No, that figure was terrible, BT devs. What about you guys? Nothing?
01:23:30
Speaker
I don't know if I ever put thought into it so that I don't like, or that's annoying.
01:23:38
Speaker
Dude, mine. That's a positive take. I've already said this before. So I mean, it's nothing shocking, but I am just not a Becky Lynch fan at all. I just, I don't get it. Yeah. I just, I don't understand it at all. Like Seth just said it a minute ago, like her wrestling has never been like the focal point of her. And she's always been the underdog role. I just, I don't get it. I just had never got it.
01:24:01
Speaker
Rhonda's pretty bad too. Yeah, but at least you know, she can actually kick your ass if it comes down to a fight. That's one thing about Rhonda. I've always kind of liked Rhonda's matches too, even though I'm not a fan of her promos. I thought her matches always got a...
01:24:15
Speaker
unique style to him. I always thought Rhonda would be so elevated and like be next level if she had like her own little Paul Heyman. I feel like that. That's what she needed a little Paul Heyman. Yeah, like a pocket size like to bring hornswoggle in his Paul Heyman for a tiny Paul Heyman would be perfect.
01:24:36
Speaker
Um, yeah, because her promos always held her back. She could just stand back there and look bad-ass and, you know, just look menacing and have somebody, you know, talk shit for her. It would be brilliant. But yeah, when they put her on the mic, it just, it just kills it for me. And I love, excuse me, I love Ronda Rousey. So that's saying something. Zach Hertzler, do you prefer eating ice cream in a cone or a bowl?
Ice Cream Preferences
01:25:00
Speaker
Both. I like eating this straight out of the carton, if I'm being honest. Or in a big ass coffee mug.
01:25:05
Speaker
Dude, or a big coffee mug is the ultimate delivery device because you can crush your cone up in the coffee mug if you need to. It's the ultimate delivery device for ice cream. We've discussed this on the podcast before. I actually have a mug that I can slip a whole pint of ice cream into and hold the handle and just eat the pint. You know what?
01:25:26
Speaker
the send you the uh friends the central it's like a the central perk they have a central perk yeah it's like a huge mug yeah you can definitely put uh it's almost like a bowl you can definitely do it oh yeah well you can put the bowl mugs you can definitely like the big cappuccino mugs but i'll show you i'll send you a picture of of this um it's it's perfect size it looks like a pint of ice cream but it's a little bit bigger so you can slip your pint in there
01:25:48
Speaker
I have to hold it. Your hand doesn't get cold. You don't melt your ice cream, but yeah, any sort of delivery device for ice cream, I'm in 1000% ice cream is most likely my favorite food. Um, yeah, I mean, I'm surprised that didn't have some sort of, if it's, if it's a hot summer day, like they can fucking just throw two cups and eat or two scoops in each one of my hands and I'll be fine with it. Oh man.
01:26:14
Speaker
Yeah, Zach Hertzler also says, if you could stay at a haunted place for the night, would you do it?
Staying in Haunted Places
01:26:21
Speaker
No. I'm going to go with no, dude. You're just out of trouble. I talk a big game. I love scary movies. I love scary stuff. I'm not messing around with no haunted house. I'm not trying to bring home no bad juju. Because once you have a haunted house or you have a spirit that's following you, you can't go anywhere. There's nowhere to hide. There's nothing to do. You're effed.
01:26:43
Speaker
I'm not about no haunted house experience. Yeah, I'm out on that. I'm out. Marco? I don't know. I used to like that show on MTV a while back. I think it was called, what's it called? I've been watching the TV in like 15 years. It was like years ago. It was like probably 20 years ago. I remember that. Yeah, they made it look super legit. It was very realistic looking. Yeah, you'd have to sit. It was like an abandoned prison. You would have to stay in overnight. It'd be like you have to sleep in one of the cells.
01:27:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'd probably do something like that. I mean, I mean, just like, yeah, like an abandoned building. Yes. If I knew it was actively haunted, like there was like, you know, spirits and ghosts and, you know, whatever other, you know, menacing demons could be in there. Yeah. No, I'm not messing with that, dude. I don't need any bad juju coming my way. I'm good on that. I'm good on that. Yeah. I'm not trying to attach any sort of spirits to that. Forget it. Zach Hertzler. Favorite amusement park.
01:27:42
Speaker
Oh, that's, that's, that's a tough one. I gotta go with, um, oh, universal. Yeah, universal was so much fun. There's places with better rides, but I think the overall experience is a universal. You're right. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with universal. I'm going, I'm going to Cedar Point. I've been to both. I went to Cedar Point and universal Cedar Point is just like, it's unreal going to it.
01:28:06
Speaker
We're going for the rides. Yeah, Cedar Point's definitely best. If you're just going, like, thrill-seeking, like, yeah, I think Cedar Point's definitely the way to go.
01:28:13
Speaker
Overall day though, I'd say universal. Yeah, funny story. Seth and I, I can't remember if we've told this on the podcast before, but when we graduated high school, you know, we're 17 and 18 years old. We tell our parents, you know, we lived in, you know, like South Central Kentucky and we told our parents we were gonna go to, was it Kings Island, right? In Cincinnati. Kings Island in Cincinnati, which is, yeah, like four hour drive. So they were like, all right, we'll let you guys go, right? It was me, Seth's little brother and Seth's little brother's friend.
01:28:41
Speaker
So we were going to go up there and get a hotel. We didn't tell them we were headed up to freaking Sandusky, Ohio to go, which was like, how far was that? Like freaking eight or nine hours away. We went up there and went to Cedar Point and stayed in a little jank hotel and, you know, crashed out. And I managed to keep this lie for my parents for like 15 years. You know, Sheena just casually reveals it in conversation. But more on the story.
01:29:07
Speaker
No secret is safe. She will let a secret go just to make conversation. Like if there's like, if there's stuff I specifically like don't want her to tell somebody, I got to remind her like, Hey, if he gets like a lull in the conversation, like just let it be silent. Don't let this be the thing that you bring up. Just have something to say. Did you hear what Seth did when he was 19?
01:29:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it really wasn't a big deal, but I still felt bad, dude. Obviously, the statute of limitations had passed, but still, I could go without my mom knowing that I lied to her and kept this thing from her.
01:29:39
Speaker
But at that point, it was just funny. It's not funny, though. It wasn't funny to me. I was legit aggravated when you did that, dude. I don't think it's ever funny lying to your parents. I'm sure that at least hurt my mom's feelings a little bit. It's not. Because my brother's only 15 at the time, dude. God forbid we would have died or something bad happened. Something bad could have happened. We were not being responsible for teenagers. Not cool, dude. Again, do not tell your secrets to Sheena.
01:30:06
Speaker
Should go ahead and really express feelings on that man. Yeah, tell me I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I hurt you. Tell but tell me all your secrets. I love secrets. No, cuz she'll remember that time you told me you killed a guy and dumped his body in the woods Yeah, there's a conversation party and the conversation is running low. Like yeah, she just starts digging deep man I have kept some legitimate serious secrets, dude I if I feel like it's not important then yeah, maybe but I feel like
01:30:36
Speaker
If someone tells you a secret, you don't get to decide if it's important or not. It wasn't something that you told me, it's something that we did together. It was my life experience too. Hey guys, did I tell you about the time Seth killed two guys and buried them under the cardboard?
Revealing Road Trip Secrets
01:30:56
Speaker
Takashi six nine over here. We were driving up there. We had a hit and run and we just killed that dude and just drove off. No, there was definitely there was definitely like underage drinking and you know, the whole bitch just let it all fly. It was it was bad times, but you mean every every
01:31:14
Speaker
it was good times yeah everything worked out we're all here unless we're in the afterlife right now listen younglings brat stella don't tell your mom anything when you get older just keep keep it a secret keep it a secret i mean she wants to pull off nowadays yeah i mean nowadays we got trackers on our phone like i'm gonna have like a caller on my kid that tells me where they are and shit like no i will figure out a way to
01:31:41
Speaker
and shut it down. I won't fall for that. Gina is forever the queen of spoilers. So I would never tell her a secret. For years, for years. Yeah. Jordan called me spoiler pee because years. I mean, the shit's still going on. I haven't spoiled anything for you in a long time.
01:32:03
Speaker
And the time I did spoil it was a total accident. Okay, Sam Rosenthal, he says, when is Tony Khan's first match and who is his opponent?
01:32:16
Speaker
Yeah, I can see them. I can see him fighting MJF or CM Punk. Not a straight up match, but it's like an angle type deal. Maybe, you know, Mox or whoever's going to be the returning babyface comes in to kind of help him out. But I'd almost be healing. I thought the crowd's really going to want to see him get his ass kicked. Can you imagine the pile of coke he's doing before that match? That's going to be like fucking a dinosaur droppings pile of coke.
01:32:42
Speaker
He's going to be juiced up before he goes out for a match. It's going to be wild times. I have no doubt that it's in the future, dude. He is waiting for the opportunity to get out and get out on camera for that. Sam Rosenthal, it's the year 2030. Who is in the main event?
01:33:02
Speaker
for WrestleMania. I think Tom said Brock and Roman. I'm going to say the final time. That's a safe bet. I mean, I mean, I would not put that past 2030. So we're talking seven years from now. I'm just going to put an eye to the future. I'm going to say Solos Nicola and Montez Ford.
01:33:26
Speaker
Ooh, that would be dope. I'd be here for that. I don't know. I don't know how Solo and Montez's skill sets would match up. I mean, it's seven years. They can figure it out between now and then. Well, probably Braun too. Braun might be running for... Braun could be in the mix. Awesome Theory might be in there. At that time too, guys like Seth and Roman are going to be like the nostalgia legends acts. They're coming back for like one more match, you know what I mean?
01:33:52
Speaker
I'm like really make us feel old, but yeah, like they're going to be like the John Cena, Triple H, Undertaker type. Yeah, Roman will have already done a couple movies, been in a couple of Marvel films and he's going to come back and wrestle at Mania. I mean, seven years isn't that far. Think about it. 2016, that was seven years ago. That was Roman and Triple H, man of any. God.
01:34:13
Speaker
You know, that doesn't seem like that long ago. So I don't know. I, I don't, I will go non legend and assuming it's like a, not a legend slash the style Jack, I'd say Montez and solo though. Boys. Y'all got any, uh, any match ups that you think for 2030? Hmm. I'm going to go Montez and Carmelo. That would hit.
01:34:36
Speaker
I think seven years is a good enough grace period. Let's, let's run back. Oh man. Yeah. Maybe by that time and then we'll have all the footage from, um, you know, uh, battleground to, uh, to play back. Cool. Tony Barker, best road trip snack. Ooh.
01:35:01
Speaker
I gotta go. I love, I love a bag of beef jerky and like a trail mix. I like a trail mix cause you get a little bit of different stuff. You know what I mean? Like you're not just, it's not just like eating a bag of M&Ms or like a same bag of chips. Like you can, you know, you get a handful of pretzel, you get a little, some peanuts, you know, a little bit of M&M in there. Like I feel like a trail mix is a perfect road trip snack.
01:35:23
Speaker
30 pack of chicken nuggets from Chick-fil-A. I thought you were gonna say a 30 rack of bush light and I was gonna go, hell yeah, brother. I don't really do the road beers, man. Just not worth the risk. I like getting a 30 rack. A couple of times I've taken a kit, like me and the kids, we're going up to Kentucky. We'll stop at Jackson, Tennessee, about an hour up the road, man, and hit the Chick-fil-A there. We'll get a 30 pack and just kind of all munch on them the whole trip. Yeah, it's a good one.
01:35:54
Speaker
Marco? Yeah, definitely a trail mix. My go-to is always Cheez-its as well. You can't escape the Cheez-its. I like Cheez-its. Yeah, Cheez-its on the road. I do like Cheez-its. I never buy Cheez-its for the house, but for some reason, when you're road tripping, Cheez-its are the perfect. Yeah. You got the perfect crunch. They're not super messy.
01:36:14
Speaker
Like, so, uh, yeah, a cheese. It's a good call. I legit thought Margaret just said cheeses. I was like, what are you taking the snack box on the road? Get him some Greer. Go back to the archives, man. Find her things club dude. Cheese and cheesecakes. I said this thing, this like, it was like a couple of months ago. It was like called the snackle box. It was like a fishing tackle box full of cheese and meat. And I'm like,
01:36:43
Speaker
Next time we go fishing, brother, you better have this. Dude, I'm totally making a snackle box for the next time we all get together. That is like so money, dude. Yeah, it's like a portable charcuterie, dude. That's amazing. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. Yes, that's going to happen. I'll go beef jerky just because I think it's been on every road trip I've ever been on. Yeah, got to have a good beef jerky. Tony Barker, what is one dance from the past
01:37:12
Speaker
Do you think that needs to make a comeback in current day life? I'm going to say, I'm going to say, uh, in honor of Ted Lasso, I'm going to say the running man needs to make a comeback, dude. I want to see, I want to see some coaches in the NFL and the NBA get down when they, when they win the championship or win a big game, do that, do the running man. I'm going to go the Humpty dance. Yeah, that's a good one. Yep.
01:37:39
Speaker
Brett had a little short stint there where he was obsessed with the Humpty Danes. Really? He loved it. Yep. That was him. Tony Barker, in your opinion, what was the most underwhelming return in wrestling history? For example, Big John Studd in 89 or the Ultimate Warrior in 96, just to name a couple. I'm gonna take it to our historian here.
01:38:09
Speaker
and see what he thinks. And then you guys have any thoughts? That's a good, that's a really good question, man. I, I hate to say it, Brett Hart's come back in 2010 was pretty freaking weak, man. I was not a fan of how that went down. I think he would have been better off. Just, you know, do a little reconciliation. Did not need to have a match at WrestleMania though, for sure. Marco Jordan, any thoughts? Anything to add?
01:38:37
Speaker
No, I got the old nowhere. Come back was so bad. I don't really want to touch on that. Outside of the match at WrestleMania 12, it went downhill quick after that. He just didn't. He was just like a man at a time, man. He did not fit. And same thing that we see that he did not fit in the, you know, the mid to late nineties. Yeah.
01:38:56
Speaker
Tony Barker, I started watching the American gladiators documentary on ESPN. Did any of you watch and did you have a favorite gladiator and did you have a favorite event? I watched American gladiators growing up, but I, it's like a, it's like a vague memory. I don't like, I didn't have a favorite. I don't remember anybody's name. Um, I remember the big, like when they were on the balance beam and they're like jousting. Yeah. And they're like jousting each other. That's the one that sticks out of my, uh, there was one named nitro.
01:39:23
Speaker
I remember my favorite game we used to play in the living room at my grandma's house, I think it was called Powerballs, one where they had two barrels and you had to just run and try to put the ball in the barrel, but the other person could tackle the shit out of you because you were doing it.
01:39:39
Speaker
Yeah, that was awesome. What was the Nickelodeon equivalent? Was that guts? Guts, global guts. Yeah. Guts and global guts. Yeah. Those were my American gladiator viewing experiences. Who else? It was like Turbo, I remember. Viper. There's a dude named Turbo. Turbo and Nitro. Really, really original for the early 90s. Really, you know, we haven't been able to see your talk. There's a really great action figure line, too, based on the American gladiators from the early 90s.
01:40:06
Speaker
I am. That's cool. I'm interested to watch the American gladiators documentary. That would be something that I would definitely watch. Even though that was a thing. Yeah, it's a two part. It's a 30 for 30. The first part aired on Tuesday night. I'm watching it either. That's who was blaze. She was like, kind of like Jack, Jackie.
01:40:24
Speaker
Blaze, yes, I remember Blaze. I love that show, dude. It was always on syndication, so I never really had it nailed down, like what time and channel it was coming on. But anytime I'll slip through the channels, and American Gladiator was on, I stopped and watched. Yeah, definitely. Great show. Mike Rivera has a request. He wants to know if we can stop doing NXT pick-ups. He had the lowest score of any single event. I think he scored one point for NXT. Pretty abysmal. Oh, man.
01:40:53
Speaker
We're going to end it on a weird note with our buddy Tyson, Neil Trevino. He says, thoughts on Seth Phelps saying I'm the father of Alexa Bliss' baby. Congratulations to Alexa Bliss and Ryan Cabrera on announcing their pregnancy. We were poking fun at TNT.
01:41:08
Speaker
I wasn't poking fun, I was being dead ass serious. The pimp. I think he's the baby daddy. The pimp-ticey Neil Trevino being the Alexis Bliss' daddy. I mean, have you seen or heard the music of Ryan Cabrera? I mean, why would you pick him over TNT? It's true.
01:41:23
Speaker
You know, come on, dude. Easy choice, man. It's no contest. Yes. I read an article after that, after that came out and it was calling Alexa Bliss and Ryan Cabrera, a power couple. And I was like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Like, first of all, like as much as I love Alexa Bliss, I don't even, I don't know who she could even be with where I would call it a power couple. She's not even a C-list celebrity. Yes. And Ryan Cabrera, like he's on the same level as like Ashley Simpson.
01:41:48
Speaker
No, no. Ashley Simpson had some bangers, dude. Don't do that to Ashley Simpson. Ryan Kabur is not even close to her level. If they're in the same category, he's at the very bottom of it. She's at the top. As far as like C-list. This is no shade to either of these two people as individuals. If they love each other, it doesn't matter your celebrity status. None of us on this podcast are celebrities in any way, shape, or form.
01:42:13
Speaker
I was calling him a power couple. I was like, wait, no, let's back it up here. So yeah, if you're out there and you wrote that, shame on you. And that wraps up. There's a bonus question that was private message to me that this is specifically for Sheena that I was supposed to ask. So Sheena, I hear you're trying out a new form of tanning. Any insight?
01:42:41
Speaker
Okay, here we go. So I've been wanting to do this for months.
01:42:52
Speaker
If not years. If not years, yeah. So this is something that like actually it's been since like 2020 when I first discovered it and then I really just kind of like went down the rabbit hole literally.
Unusual Health Practices
01:43:04
Speaker
So I've heard like that it's really beneficial to your health and really um really like energizing and detoxifying and all of this if you sun your genitals. What?
01:43:22
Speaker
So you go out into the sunlight and then you like get in baby pose, like a yoga pose where you like, you know, spread eagle and you, you sun your, your butthole and your genitals. Aren't you a tad worried that it's going to burn? No. I mean, you don't like stay out there for hours or anything. You just go out there and get a nice little glimpse. You know what I mean? Like I just, an eclipse, you know?
01:43:49
Speaker
So you go out there and you just look it up, look up, you know, the benefits of genital sunning or butt hole sunning or, you know, whatever you want to call it. Sheena's out there winking at the sun. Bro, I'll tell you, I did it and I immediately felt better about myself. And then Seth did it.
01:44:06
Speaker
I said didn't do it. I tried to get him to do it. But you know, he didn't he didn't do it. You know, our kids were taking a much a much needed movie break. Like, you know, we've been playing outside all day. We're taking a movie break inside. And we were out in the little, you know, blow up pool out in the out in the yard means that just having like some peaceful adult time. And I was like, you know what, now's the time I'm going to sign my butt. And so
01:44:32
Speaker
And so I did it and I felt better. I felt less stressed. I felt more energized. I felt healthier and cleaner on the inside. So, uh, all right. People get out there and do some, some perineum, uh, sunning. Okay. Yeah. That went better than I thought.
01:44:51
Speaker
All right. On that note, I'll remind you guys, use code ChickFully to save 10% on all your figure purchases at Ringside Collectibles. Hit chickfully.com to find all things ChickFully. And Sheena, hit us with the trivia question for this week. I'm going for three straight. All right.
01:45:09
Speaker
Oh man, I think you're going to get this one. Why are you sad that I'm going to get it? You should be rooting for me. I'm happy. I'm happy that you're going to get it. But I feel bad because I feel like when Jordan and Marco always get questions, they're always like these obscure crazy questions. And then I feel like I'm lobbing you softballs. So I don't ever want it to seem like I'm being biased. It is. We randomly generate these questions. So at the 1991 Royal Rumble, the ultimate warrior's opponent was
01:45:37
Speaker
Sergeant Slaughter, one of the all-time most pissed I've ever been at a wrestling match. I would have answered that wrong just to act like I don't remember it. Yeah, I want to black that out. I mean, I was so fucking mad as a kid that Sergeant Slaughter, I don't know why they couldn't just have Macho beat him for the belt or something. Anyways, all right, Sheena, hit us with some closing thoughts. Get out there and sun your buttholes.