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9. The One Where the Body Spoke Louder Than Words
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In this powerful and deeply insightful episode, Victoria chats with the vibrant and wise Hollie Wild – a woman whose personal journey has taken her from a strict cult-like religious upbringing to becoming a police officer, then evolving into a deeply intuitive practitioner in the healing space.
Hollie now works with spinal energetics, a fascinating body-based modality that goes beyond mindset and affirmations to help the body physically release stored emotional tension. Together, they unpack the science, the woo, and the wild (pun intended!) truth about how our bodies hold onto past experiences – even ones we think we’ve already processed.
Victoria also shares her own experience as a “guinea pig” client, and they dive into big questions like:
- Can trauma show up in your body as physical pain?
- What happens in a spinal energetics session?
- Do we carry emotional wounds that aren’t even ours?
- How can we help our children grow up with emotional awareness?
- What’s one simple practice to reconnect to yourself today?
Whether you’re a curious listener, a parent trying to break generational patterns, or someone who feels a little “stuck” – this episode is a beautiful blend of real talk, education, and hope.
Connect with Hollie:
🌐 Website: www.holliewild.com
📱 Instagram: @holliewildd (yes, that’s a double D – not her bra size 😆)
Connect with Victoria:
IG: @the.victoria.r
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Transcript
Introduction to Holly's Journey
00:00:37
Victoria R
Hello everyone, welcome to the Mindful Educator podcast. I have a beautiful friend of mine, Holly, joining me today. um I've known Holly for a few years now. We were part of a group a few years with Brianna May, so the Level Up Your Life group, and yeah, it was an insane WhatsApp chat that that happened during that round.
Holly's Career Evolution
00:00:59
Hollie Wild
yeah
00:00:59
Victoria R
um But I've known Holly since then and just seeing her transformation and the progress that she has made in those years has been beautiful to witness. So Holly started off doing human design not long after we finished that.
00:01:12
Victoria R
Then she moved into root course therapy and now she's doing spinal energetics. And yeah, it's amazing how much you've kind of done in the last few years, Holly. It's yeah, pretty, pretty outstanding actually.
00:01:21
Hollie Wild
no and
00:01:24
Victoria R
and So welcome. Thank you for joining me today.
00:01:26
Hollie Wild
um thank you so much. What a beautiful intro. um I'm honestly honoured that you're having me on your brand new, absolutely exciting podcast. Seriously, I'm honoured. So thank you for having me, Vic.
00:01:37
Victoria R
Oh, thank you for joining me. I appreciate it.
00:01:40
Victoria R
Because, yeah, there's so many things I want to ask you about today because your work that you have been doing is just, it's amazing. And um especially with the spinal energetics, it's something I'd kind of seen on Instagram I've kind of been stalking the person who created I like, oh, what's all this about?
00:01:40
Hollie Wild
Thank you.
00:01:56
Victoria R
And then to find out that you were studying it and were actually offering it, i was like, oh, yes,
00:01:57
Hollie Wild
Mm-hmm.
Leaving a Strict Religious Upbringing
00:02:01
Hollie Wild
yeah
00:02:02
Victoria R
let's do this.
00:02:03
Victoria R
So do you want to just tell us a little bit about yourself, a bit of background so people listening kind of get to know you a little bit better and then we'll get stuck into the what you're doing now?
00:02:13
Hollie Wild
Yeah, for sure. Look, I don't know how far back you really want me to go, Vic, because we could be here all day. So I'll give you like a shorter version.
00:02:21
Victoria R
Cool, cool.
00:02:21
Hollie Wild
um But yeah, well, i think because I think it does lead into what I do. But but growing up, I was actually raised in a very um not not your average kind of nice religious community, a very kind of crazy religious community, to be honest.
00:02:38
Hollie Wild
um It was a very strict, very cultish religious group in Launceston, Tasmania. And I was raised in that from basically birth and I didn't leave that group until I was
Personal Growth through Career Changes
00:02:50
Hollie Wild
25.
00:02:50
Hollie Wild
So for big chunk of my life, I was a part of this group. And when I say it was crazy, like it was it was out there. we We were taught that we were like the elite, that we were there to save the entire world.
00:02:57
Victoria R
All right.
00:03:03
Hollie Wild
This is why I say it's not like your average, normal, cute community. That's why I'm not at all against religions. I'm not against religious groups. If someone's listening and they're religious, I'm not against you. It's just, we were taught that we were there to save everybody. So we looked down upon every other church out there. Like another Christian church to us was, was seen as, oh, they were lukewarm was how it was taught to us.
00:03:26
Hollie Wild
And we were there to save the world. So Yeah, it was a lot of um mind control. We were constantly, we were part of this group every single day. So we went to regular schools, but we would meet with the religious group every single morning, um like literally Monday to Friday before we'd go off to school.
00:03:45
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:45
Hollie Wild
We'd meet with them Wednesday nights, Friday nights, Saturday nights, two times on Sunday.
00:03:49
Hollie Wild
It was our entire existence. So it's all we knew. and it might sound crazy because when I tell people that that was my upbringing, like I have a beautiful family, absolutely beautiful family. My my home life was incredible.
00:04:02
Victoria R
yeah
00:04:03
Hollie Wild
But that religious group was nuts. And people are like, why didn't you just leave? And and honestly, the reason why we why we didn't was because before that my dad was an outlaw bikie. So he was part of a bikie club.
00:04:14
Victoria R
ye
00:04:14
Hollie Wild
And my parents were separated.
00:04:16
Hollie Wild
And so then my mum found this religious group and it seemed nice and normal in the beginning. And and it wasn't until we were in deep that we realised how nuts it was. and But then my dad joined.
00:04:27
Hollie Wild
So he turned his back on the bikey club and turned his back on that entire party scene, all the drugs he was doing.
00:04:30
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:04:34
Hollie Wild
um he was with another woman, like everything. And my parents' marriage was restored and they're still together today. So like, because of that, we kind of thought, oh, this is this is the right move. This is where we should be. And we didn't realize how nuts it was until we were like full on into it.
00:04:50
Hollie Wild
So that was my my upbringing, beautiful family life, but nuts religious group. And it wasn't, oh, and I married in the group as well, because we were taught that
00:04:55
Victoria R
yeah
00:04:58
Hollie Wild
you could only marry in this group. You couldn't even marry someone from another church. It had to be within this group. And so my options for who I was going to marry was so limited, like so, so limited.
00:05:07
Victoria R
Yeah. so
00:05:09
Hollie Wild
Yeah. So like I fell in love with a man and we got married, but Sadly, when I chose to leave this group, which was when I was 25, I also left that marriage because that was the only thing that bonded us.
00:05:22
Hollie Wild
We really didn't have a lot in common. It was just we were part of the same group. So, yeah, at age 25, I had left.
00:05:26
Victoria R
yeah
00:05:29
Hollie Wild
I turned my back on on this particular group. I had left this marriage and i was pretty broken. I'm not going to lie. I had no self-trust because I was taught that I was just the most wicked person on the planet But my one sole purpose was to try to save everyone. And I just didn't trust myself. I was taught to not trust my body, to not trust my mind, to not trust my intuition, that everything was the devil, the devil, the devil. It's all that I knew.
00:05:56
Hollie Wild
So I had no self-trust. I had no self-worth. I was had hit rock bottom. And literally the day that I walked out of my marriage, I started at the Western Australia Police Academy because I had moved states in between that story. But um I started at the Western Australia Police Academy.
00:06:13
Hollie Wild
and did that for six months and became a police officer. And that was that was wild. That was life-changing and transforming and Yeah, I had to learn very quickly how to be street smart because I had no street smarts whatsoever.
00:06:26
Hollie Wild
I was a very naive, very innocent, young minded kind of 25 year old. I wasn't like the average 25 year old.
00:06:32
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:06:32
Hollie Wild
I was very sheltered. And i had to grow up very quickly and also had to learn how to trust my intuition very quickly. And so that was the biggest thing from the police career was starting to listen to that inner voice of like something, whatever's being present presented in front of me in a job.
00:06:49
Hollie Wild
is not the truth. Or like, let's say the person that's presenting is the victim in a situation. so Something in my gut would be like, this is not right. They're not telling the truth and and go beneath that. Or I'd have this inner knowing of this person that's in front of me, they've got a knife. And I had no idea why I thought that.
00:07:06
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:07:06
Hollie Wild
It'd be like, oh, they've got a knife, you know, in their in the back of their jeans.
00:07:06
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:07:09
Hollie Wild
I'm like, where am I getting that from? And at first I would just dismiss it and be like, you' nuts hol you're Holly, you're nuts. And And then over time I started to trust these little intuitive hits and these nudges I'd get and it gets stronger
Body-Based Wisdom and Spinal Energetics
00:07:21
Hollie Wild
and stronger.
00:07:21
Hollie Wild
And yeah, it's, it's funny. Cause that then leads me in into the work that I do now with spinal energetics as well is just, just being able to read beneath the surface.
00:07:28
Victoria R
yeah
00:07:31
Hollie Wild
And, and, and like someone might say, like, if someone says, if you say, how are you doing? how How's life? and they're like, oh, I'm good. you You can sense there's, there's something that they're not saying. There's something underneath that, that,
00:07:44
Hollie Wild
that their body is trying to tell them. and And yeah, I mean, I could go on about this for days. I don't want to ramble, but but like literally the body, the body keeps score.
00:07:51
Victoria R
love it
00:07:53
Hollie Wild
That is a hundred percent truth that we can rationally think that we're doing well in our minds. And I know this to be true for myself, but our body holds so much wisdom that until it's addressed from a body-based level, it's not, it's not fully resolved.
00:08:00
Victoria R
Thank you.
00:08:08
Hollie Wild
It's not fully healed within us, no matter what it is, things from our past, from childhood, teenage years, it could be Divorced, we've gone through miscarriage, fertility issues. It could be grief, someone passing. Like we might rationally think in our minds, we're good, we've moved on, but our body holds the score. And and yeah, and that's why I'm just so freaking passionate about this type of work.
00:08:30
Hollie Wild
I'll shut up and let you speak.
00:08:30
Victoria R
I know, and you can hear it when you speak about it. I love it. So leading into that, like, what is Spinal Energetic Sense? So for people that haven't heard of it before, how would you describe it to them?
00:08:37
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:08:40
Hollie Wild
I know, it looks nuts. It looks nuts.
00:08:43
Victoria R
I know, I must admit, when I first started following, I'm trying to remember her name, but it's escaped me, but the one that
00:08:47
Hollie Wild
Dr. Sarah Jane, the creator.
00:08:48
Victoria R
Yes, that's what it is.
00:08:49
Hollie Wild
Yep.
00:08:50
Victoria R
I remember when I first started following her and some of the comments people were like, ah, like really hard about it.
00:08:54
Hollie Wild
Oh, yeah.
00:08:56
Victoria R
But I was like, oh, this is really quite interesting. It's like it intrigued me. So, yeah, when you do it, it does look a bit odd, I'll be honest.
00:09:00
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:09:03
Hollie Wild
It does, 100%. It can look like an exorcism.
00:09:05
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:09:06
Hollie Wild
And and look, i'm I'm totally blunt about it and very upfront about that fact. I don't try to hide that fact. It looks nuts because we, in in our Western society, we just deal with what we physically see.
00:09:18
Hollie Wild
Like we we don't fully understand see. what is below the surface on things or that we are more than just a physical body. Like we understand from a scientific level, yeah, we were taught in school that we're atoms and all of that, but we don't really think about it. Like some of the Eastern countries and Eastern philosophies, they understand it so much better than we do here in the West. It's just, it's physical, what you see, that's it. There's nothing else to it.
00:09:43
Hollie Wild
especially coming from my my upbringing within the particular religious church, anything like this would have been so taboo. Like we weren't even allowed to do yoga. Like even um meditation, all of that was seen as the devil's work, completely taboo like nuts. So for me to even be doing this work now is pretty crazy. I love that though.
00:10:02
Victoria R
Going for like one extreme to the other.
00:10:02
Hollie Wild
But yeah, to explain.
00:10:04
Hollie Wild
I know, I am a bit like that. I can be a bit extreme.
00:10:05
Victoria R
love it
00:10:07
Hollie Wild
But one of the things, look, i that's why I'm i'm upfront and I'm like, look, spinal energetics looks nuts. I understand that. When I first saw the video, i I saw a video online. It was one of Dr. Sarah James, who's a chiropractor from Melbourne.
00:10:20
Hollie Wild
She's the founder of Spinal Energetics, the creator of Spinal Energetics. But when I first saw one of her videos, it intrigued me so much. And I was like, wow, because you actually see somebody's body like laying on a massage table and they're moving or maybe there's little shakes or.
00:10:35
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:10:35
Hollie Wild
Um, some people will have like noises come out, like as if, as if they're releasing years of pain, like emotional pain, whatever it might be.
00:10:42
Victoria R
yeah
00:10:43
Hollie Wild
It looks a bit crazy and it can look like a bit of an exorcism, but it's not, it's the furthest thing from that. The way that I kind of try to explain it is like you picture a gazelle that's just been chased by a lion,
00:10:55
Hollie Wild
out bush somewhere, wherever. And the gazelle magically gets away from it.
00:10:57
Victoria R
yeah
00:11:00
Hollie Wild
You see it on some like videos. The first thing its body does is it starts to shake and it just has like a, like ah a little bit of a shake. And that is just a trauma loop coming to completion. So it went through a traumatic experience being chased by a lion.
00:11:15
Hollie Wild
And then that loop is being closed. That trauma loop is being closed by its body being able to like express and and remove essentially that that traumatic experience from its body. And it's doing that through shaking.
00:11:30
Hollie Wild
It's just a natural part of of a body.
00:11:31
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:11:33
Hollie Wild
And our bodies are the same. It's just we're taught that that's weird. We're taught that...
00:11:37
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:11:39
Hollie Wild
you know, it's completely weird and taboo. So when people first see the videos, it is very polarizing and it does tend to split the group. You either are in the group of intrigue, what is this?
00:11:50
Hollie Wild
Or reject because it confronts our belief systems about we're more than just a physical body and it's confronting for people's belief systems.
00:11:50
Victoria R
yeah
00:11:58
Hollie Wild
But essentially all it is to explain what spinal energetics is, let's say I'm doing a session with you. First of all, I'm not calling in anything. I'm not calling in any, like as a practitioner, I'm not calling in any energies, any beings,
00:12:14
Hollie Wild
any anything. It's nothing like that. It is literally my innate intelligence and your innate intelligence connecting. And it's the same innate intelligence that kicks our digestive system into gear when we're hungry, that tells us when we need sleep, that begins to heal a wound when we've got a cut on our hand.
00:12:26
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:12:31
Hollie Wild
Like it it's it's there. We're aware that it's there. we just don't think about what that innate intelligence is. But it's the same innate intelligence that kicks into gear to protect us when we're faced with experiences that were too much too soon or not enough, as in maybe...
00:12:48
Hollie Wild
as a young person, we were neglected or we were abandoned, or maybe we faced really traumatic situations in life, or maybe it wasn't even what most people would deem as traumatic, but it was a breakup that still lingers in our body today, or it was a miscarriage that we still haven't processed properly.
00:12:59
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:13:07
Hollie Wild
And it goes back to that whole thing about mentally we might've moved on, but our body, it still is stored literally in the cells in our body. in the fascia, in our nervous system, it is still stored in our energetic
Client Experiences and Reconnection
00:13:19
Hollie Wild
body.
00:13:19
Hollie Wild
And that's not woo, even though it might sound it, that's actually scientific, in the atoms, it's in our energetic body.
00:13:23
Victoria R
yeah
00:13:25
Hollie Wild
And until it's addressed from a body-based level, it doesn't matter how much mentally like mindset work we do, even though mindset work is awesome. doesn't matter how many affirmations we say.
00:13:36
Hollie Wild
does not matter how much we exercise or how many ice baths or how much breath work we do. Even though all these things are awesome, it cannot address what's stored in our body unless we address it at a body-based level.
00:13:48
Hollie Wild
And so all it's doing is, yeah, my innate intelligence is connecting with yours.
00:13:48
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:52
Hollie Wild
And somehow it is creating the space for your innate intelligence, the very intelligence that protected you at some point in life or several points in life.
00:14:03
Hollie Wild
It's now completing that cycle. And that's why you see people sometimes will shake or have like involuntary movements. It's just literally unwinding that tension pattern. because I don't like to overuse the word trauma.
00:14:16
Hollie Wild
It can get overused a bit these days, but ah trauma is a real thing. But just think of of it as tension. There's tension stored in our body, in different parts of our body that relate to different emotional experiences that we've gone through.
00:14:28
Hollie Wild
And it's just allowing the space for that to begin to actually unwind naturally. It's not me or another spinal energetics practitioner doing something to you. We're not healing you. i don't I don't believe in that. I don't even particularly like the word healer because I think it's a little bit pedestalling of like oh look at me I can heal you it's it's not that it's just creating the safety and the safe space for your body to unwind what is still stored today that you might not even mentally be aware of and it's pretty profound
00:14:46
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:14:58
Victoria R
yeah Yeah, and I mean, I know i did a few sessions with you when you were just before you kind of released it to everyone.
00:15:04
Hollie Wild
you're my guinea pig yeah
00:15:06
Victoria R
um And it was really interesting because I mean, I went in with no expectations whatsoever. It was just like, okay, yeah, cool. Like I'll lay on the bed and yeah do you do your thing through the computer and because we did it remotely.
00:15:18
Victoria R
And it was really interesting because I'd be laying there and yeah, I realized that my body was moving in different ways. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was obviously just doing its thing. But I think just having that space where it could release whatever needed to be released.
00:15:32
Victoria R
And I know that as the sessions went on, obviously, I did start recognizing that I was having a lot more movement.
00:15:33
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:15:38
Victoria R
So my body had become accustomed to recognizing, yeah, cool, let's go.
00:15:43
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:15:43
Victoria R
So, yeah, it was quite fascinating um just kind of experiencing that as well because, like I said, I went in with zero expectations um and even in that very first session I know that, yeah, there was definitely releasing of something because I had started moving.
00:15:51
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:15:56
Hollie Wild
yeah
00:15:58
Victoria R
So, no it was, yeah, it was interesting. It was interesting to experience as well as to able to see the videos that you also put up of showing what you do, you'd like to see it from both sides.
00:16:07
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:16:08
Victoria R
So, yeah.
00:16:08
Hollie Wild
And one of the things that they taught us that really stuck with me is movement's not the goal per se, as in like, I never want people to feel like, oh, you're my, my guinea pig of like, you have, you have to do all these movements to make my ego feel good.
00:16:16
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:23
Hollie Wild
My my goal is not to make somebody move. It's whatever their body needs in that moment is going to happen. For some people, it is a lot of movement.
00:16:29
Victoria R
yeah
00:16:32
Hollie Wild
Like for me, I'm a, I'm a big mover. My body does tend to move. I've cried in sessions.
00:16:35
Victoria R
yeah
00:16:37
Hollie Wild
um I've had some sessions where I'm more still and then others where I've moved a lot. For some clients, they can be still the whole time, but they'll be having a real internal experience.
00:16:47
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:47
Hollie Wild
And they'll say things like, oh, I felt tingling and I felt hot, like heat. And then i just started crying and I didn't know what i was even crying for. Like everyone can have quite a different experience and that can be based on who they are and how they process things.
00:16:58
Victoria R
yeah
00:17:01
Hollie Wild
Like some people do just process more internally and some are more externally, almost like some are extroverts and some are introverts like we're all different but also i do find that some people it can take a little bit of time to build because you think about it we live in a society where we're taught to override our instincts all the time it's like numb this don't feel this um just And I'm not dismissing medication.
00:17:28
Hollie Wild
There's absolutely a time and place for medication. But there is an overuse for it in our society. if It's like it's numbness. Maybe it's numbing with food. Maybe it's numbing with porn. Maybe it's numbing with our phones. Like, God, I often will realize, man, I'm picking up my phone a lot.
00:17:38
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:17:41
Hollie Wild
Why am I even holding it in my hand? and like
00:17:42
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:17:43
Hollie Wild
but' We're constantly numbing. So we're taught to override the messages that our bodies are telling us already. And maybe it's, oh, I'm really tired, but we don't go to bed. We override that instinct and we'll stay up another three hours watching Netflix, which sometimes that's awesome.
00:17:57
Victoria R
Just another episode.
00:17:58
Hollie Wild
That's what we need. Don't get me wrong. When my daughter's in bed overnight, sometimes I just want to watch Netflix. But we are taught to override these instincts all the time.
00:18:03
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:18:06
Hollie Wild
So then they'll come into a spinal energetic session, and they're laying there.
00:18:07
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:18:10
Hollie Wild
And it can take a few sessions for them to even start to begin to trust what their body is telling them or trust that it wants to move or trust that the sensations that they're feeling and it can take a ah few sessions for them to be like, Oh, I can feel it.
00:18:23
Hollie Wild
Oh, my gosh, I can, I can understand what's happening now. as they begin to listen more to their body. And and that's what it's all about.
00:18:29
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:18:30
Hollie Wild
It's about creating that mind-body connection that has been numbed for so long, sometimes out of survival. Sometimes it is pure survival just to get on with our day.
00:18:37
Victoria R
yeah
00:18:40
Hollie Wild
And and I'm not dissing that. I think everything has a time and ah and a place. Sometimes we do just have to crack on and get on with life and ignore the instincts. But yeah, I think that when we have the time and the space, like in a spinal energetic session, it's amazing when we begin to listen and reconnect with our bodies, what it actually can tell us.
00:19:00
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:19:00
Hollie Wild
Like, it yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:19:03
Victoria R
I mean, yeah, like I said, it was very interesting. and Even like I know I just like, I think it' was just my finger started flickering or like pulsing at one point. That was like the first thing I was like, oh, okay, like this is interesting.
00:19:13
Hollie Wild
you
00:19:14
Victoria R
But yeah, you were right because all the other sensations as well, I think I did feel tingling and and whatnot too. So once you kind of do pay attention to that, it's intriguing.
00:19:19
Hollie Wild
yeah
00:19:22
Hollie Wild
And hands and feet can be a real big one.
00:19:23
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:19:24
Hollie Wild
They they can say that, um again, I don't like to overuse the word trauma, but let's just use it in this instance, that hands and feet can be a big one for during sessions to almost feel like ah it's a trauma release because your hands and feet sometimes will want to like really shake or there'll be
Maintaining Body Connection
00:19:39
Hollie Wild
a lot of tingling.
00:19:39
Hollie Wild
And it's quite common when things are being um unwound, like your body's unwinding, your spine, your fascia, like everything's unwinding in your body.
00:19:45
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:19:49
Hollie Wild
Hands and feet can be one of the first places where you really start to feel it. Although like curl up, i've I've had moments in sessions as a client where my hands are like in fists and I'm like, God, I'm really holding onto to some anger from a long time ago.
00:20:01
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:20:02
Hollie Wild
And in sessions, I'll have like memories come up that I hadn't thought about for a really long time. And it's like, obviously my body is ready to begin to heal.
00:20:07
Victoria R
oh
00:20:10
Hollie Wild
It's ready to begin to process stuff that I thought I'd moved on from, but clearly I didn't.
00:20:13
Victoria R
Yeah, it's fascinating. Yeah. So obviously like the spinal energetics, it deals with a lot of stuff that we have may have held onto from the past. Going forward, is there anything that we can do, like if we do experience something without having to have a spinal energetic session, is there some way that we can release whatever needs to be released if we have gone through something throughout the day or whatever might happen?
00:20:36
Victoria R
Is there any kind of suggestions for that side of things?
00:20:40
Hollie Wild
Oh, for sure. And I never want someone to feel like they have to rely on outside sources to connect to themselves. Like at the end of the day, you just need you and yourself. Obviously it helps to have people outside of us as like our support team, just the same way someone goes to a therapist or the same way someone goes to a naturopath or a chiro, like they're all our support team.
00:20:59
Hollie Wild
But at the end of the day, as long as we have that connection with ou ourselves.
00:20:59
Victoria R
Oh my
00:21:02
Hollie Wild
So one of the biggest things with me, i would, that I recommend is Like honestly, just sitting it's as lame as it sounds, sitting with ourself and reconnecting back with our heart space and with our breath.
00:21:15
Hollie Wild
I'm not a breath work practitioner. I don't profess to be some expert at breathing, but like I've breathed my whole life. So I kind of know a little bit about it.
00:21:22
Victoria R
God. oh
00:21:25
Hollie Wild
I know enough to be able to like connect with my breath.
00:21:26
Victoria R
love it
00:21:29
Hollie Wild
I honestly, if I'm feeling overwhelmed, I literally just take some time to myself and just breathing and slowing down my breathing. and reconnecting with that. Another thing I'm a big fan on of is meditation, but not in a lame way.
00:21:42
Hollie Wild
i think I think a lot of these things can just become like tools that are just a bit boring. And it's like, you just check the time and you're like, awesome, I did another minute today. And it's like, yeah, but you sat in fight flight the whole time and and we achieved absolutely nothing.
00:21:55
Victoria R
put my time up yet.
00:21:56
Hollie Wild
Yeah. So what I recommend is like literally you just sitting and playing music and just close your eyes with no expectations, no goals of how long you're going to go for. And as weird as it sounds, when your eyes are closed, if you actually pretend that you're looking through your forehead, like focus on a dot in your forehead with your eyes closed, it just helps you to like center on something.
00:22:19
Hollie Wild
And the more that I've practiced that, the more sense of like calm and peace and the more I've been able to listen to my body and my intuition has even gotten stronger just through that connection with myself. So I would say breath, meditation, exercise, honestly.
00:22:33
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:35
Hollie Wild
Again, but they're all simple things.
00:22:35
Victoria R
That is.
00:22:36
Hollie Wild
I think exercising is one of the best ways to reconnect with our bodies again and to just have that
00:22:37
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:22:43
Hollie Wild
that love and that trust in and what our body is is capable of doing. um Yeah, anything that I come, like anything that I recommend, I come from a place of of love, not of like when I talk about exercise, it's not in a punishment way. It's purely just love and devotion for ourselves.
00:23:00
Hollie Wild
Really just simple things, going for a walk, being in nature. You can't beat being in nature. All of these things are helping us to reconnect back with ourselves and And a big one also is just talking with friends.
00:23:08
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:12
Hollie Wild
Again, might sound really simple and really lame, but like if you have a support network of people that you trust, people that actually have your back, people that aren't fake supporting you, but actually are big supporters of you, I think just being able to talk and have someone to process with and someone to ask you the right sort of questions to guide you back to yourself, I think you can't beat that as well.
00:23:35
Hollie Wild
But, yeah, just in everyday life, just taking time out for ourselves and and showing ourselves love but not just in going and getting your nails done, going and getting your hair done but actually, like, connecting with yourself.
00:23:35
Victoria R
yeah
00:23:45
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:23:46
Hollie Wild
Although I love getting my nails and hair done too.
00:23:47
Victoria R
yeah ah yeah I know, right?
00:23:49
Hollie Wild
with More of that, please.
00:23:53
Victoria R
Okay, no, that's good to know because I know you're so tough, like, obviously a lot of us kind of end up, you know, suppressing a lot of the stuff that may have happened in the past you know, we've just got to get on with it, it's fine, like, you know, and this is, I guess, where your work comes into it because it has obviously, you know, it's like, okay, well, obviously we can't keep going like this.
00:24:02
Hollie Wild
Sure.
00:24:11
Victoria R
Our body does need to release all this in some way.
00:24:11
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:24:13
Victoria R
So it is good to know that, yeah, on the daily as well we can...
00:24:17
Hollie Wild
Yeah, in simple ways.
00:24:17
Victoria R
and of try those little things yeah and they are they are really simple ways and it's says a lot of stuff that i try and teach as well um but oh i wouldn't say that i'm the expert
00:24:24
Hollie Wild
Yeah, you'd be the expert at all of that way more than I would be. Take it, yes you are.
00:24:31
Victoria R
oh yeah yeah that's right
00:24:34
Hollie Wild
Actually, one thing I will say just just on ah like about how our body like tries to get our attention, it actually starts first in like a, let's say something happened in our lives and it tries to get our attention from like a a spiritual soul kind of level.
Unprocessed Emotions and Physical Ailments
00:24:48
Hollie Wild
And let's say we don't pick up on the cues, we don't pick up on on what's going on, and then it will come through on more of like that that mindset level and then in our emotions. And the last the last layer it actually hits is physical.
00:25:02
Hollie Wild
And this tends to be the one that gets our attention the most, especially in the Western world, because that's when it hits us like a ton of bricks and we're like, oh, was about to swear, I won't swear.
00:25:03
Victoria R
Okay.
00:25:11
Hollie Wild
And we're like, oh, crap, oh, crap. Oh, sugar. Oh, sugar. good Now it's got our attention. I've been practicing not swearing because my daughter. I don't want to swear. for Oh, sugar.
00:25:23
Hollie Wild
Sugar Matimbus. It's now gotten our attention.
00:25:24
Victoria R
yeah
00:25:25
Hollie Wild
and And it's true because if if we we don't quite get it when it's like mental, we might... numb. And then maybe it's emotions.
00:25:33
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:25:34
Hollie Wild
We're still numb. And and i've I've done this many times. I'm putting myself in this category.
00:25:38
Victoria R
i think I think we all have.
00:25:39
Victoria R
It's yeah, everyone.
00:25:39
Hollie Wild
Every human being, right?
00:25:41
Hollie Wild
Especially again in the Western world.
00:25:41
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:25:42
Hollie Wild
And then finally it might be physical. And that can play out as maybe it just starts as we don't sleep very well. And then maybe as women, it's our periods that get affected. Maybe it's our hormonal health.
00:25:54
Hollie Wild
Something's up in our hormones or it becomes, oh, we've got unexplained pains. I see this common with clients where it's unexplained pains
00:26:00
Victoria R
aye
00:26:01
Hollie Wild
They've gone to doctors, they've got you know tests done, nothing makes sense. Everyone's like, there's nothing that that makes sense. It'll just go away on its own. And it's it's trying to get our attention. Maybe it is actually chronic illness.
00:26:13
Hollie Wild
You see that a lot with you know people that have, oh my gosh, what's it called? Oh, it's just escaped my mind. Where they're chronic fatigue and-
00:26:22
Victoria R
yes, yeah.
00:26:22
Hollie Wild
Like all of this, yes, I understand that life just happens and physical ailments just happen in life, but often they're linked to something that is stored in our body emotionally and mentally from something to do with our past.
00:26:34
Hollie Wild
And it's just, ah and i've I've seen things change drastically when it's actually addressed from the body-based level. Drastically, things can turn around quite rapidly for people.
00:26:41
Victoria R
yeah.
00:26:44
Hollie Wild
And I've seen that even within myself with with different conditions within within myself. I was diagnosed with polycystic ovarian syndrome as a teenager. I don't have any symptoms of that in my body at all now.
00:26:54
Hollie Wild
I've had blood tests done and the doctors have said, whatever you are doing, keep doing it. And it's honestly from addressing emotions that I thought I had moved on from. I thought I was good, but it was still living.
00:27:03
Victoria R
yeah
00:27:04
Hollie Wild
It was still active. That that cycle had not completed like that gazelle being chased by the lion had not been completed in my body.
00:27:11
Victoria R
yeah
00:27:12
Hollie Wild
And yeah, so it also gives hope to people to know that when you actually address it in our body, things can turn around quite quickly for people too.
00:27:20
Victoria R
Yeah, yeah, and that's it.
00:27:21
Hollie Wild
gives hope.
00:27:22
Victoria R
I think, yeah, we do spend so much time kind of focusing on those quick solutions and a lot of the time it's not going to be a quick solution, is it?
00:27:27
Hollie Wild
Yeah. No, no.
00:27:29
Victoria R
It does, you know, obviously it can be, yeah.
00:27:31
Hollie Wild
It can be, it definitely can be when the right thing is addressed.
00:27:32
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:27:36
Hollie Wild
But also, it's yeah, it's not always just an overnight thing.
00:27:40
Victoria R
Yeah, yeah. so with regards to that, how would you recommend ensuring that our children kind of grow up, being able to recognise this a little bit better?
00:27:52
Victoria R
Because obviously, you know, I do a lot of work with children. We've got our own children as well.
00:27:55
Hollie Wild
Hmm.
00:27:57
Victoria R
Yeah, like how, like what would you suggest to assist them so that I suppose when they get to our age, they're not trying to unravel everything the way we are?
00:28:07
Hollie Wild
Yeah, I would say a few things because I, yeah, I've been deep, deep in this. I am a mother myself of of a daughter. And so I get it. I've been deep in this. I would say the first thing is on us as parents is to take our shame away of being crap scared that we're going to ruin our children.
00:28:26
Hollie Wild
I just want to start with that because I think that's one of the biggest things.
00:28:28
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:28:29
Hollie Wild
Sorry if you can hear my dog barking. She's going nuts up the hallway. Okay. um But yeah, one of the things is like we tend to just, especially more conscious parents, you know, conscious parenting, we tend to really judge ourselves as if we're going to destroy and ruin our children.
00:28:45
Victoria R
Because
00:28:45
Hollie Wild
And I just think, just get rid of all that.
00:28:48
Hollie Wild
Just get rid of all that.
00:28:48
Victoria R
that brings a lot of guilt, a lot of.
00:28:49
Hollie Wild
Yeah, like get rid of the guilt guilt, get rid of the shame.
00:28:50
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:28:52
Hollie Wild
That's not going to help us.
00:28:53
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:28:53
Hollie Wild
And we're just going to store that in our bodies too. So let's just get rid of that for starters.
00:28:57
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:28:57
Hollie Wild
Second of all, I think honestly, it's done through modeling. I think who we are and how we show up as a parent, they're going to learn more from watching us than from just what we say. So for instance, I think it starts, there's a couple couple rabbit holes I could go down here, but one is when we stuff up as parents is owning it and honestly getting down on their level. So for instance, my daughter's young.
00:29:19
Hollie Wild
I literally get down on my knee. So I'm eye to eye with her. And I will say,
00:29:22
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:23
Hollie Wild
what I've just done wrong, how I've reacted wrong. Maybe I lost my temper. Maybe I really lost my cool. I, you know, didn't respond in the most loving way to her. And I will tell her and I'll explain to her, you know what, mommy really shouldn't have reacted that way. And I'm really, really sorry. And this is what I'm sorry for.
00:29:39
Victoria R
yeah
00:29:39
Hollie Wild
And they, they are the most forgiving little things on the planet.
00:29:42
Hollie Wild
If we just acknowledge what we're sorry for. So then they learn that from us. Second thing is I think let's take from different generations what worked and just dismiss what didn't.
00:29:53
Hollie Wild
So I, for instance, the boomer generation, they get mocked a lot, but I also think there's some awesome qualities about them that we can take into our parenting and help our kids with.
00:30:03
Hollie Wild
One being they just get on. They just get on.
00:30:06
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:30:06
Hollie Wild
They went through a lot and they just kept going on. Yes, there was a downside to that. that that, ah for instance, trauma was never acknowledged. Like that was never a thing that was talked about. There was some horrible situations that people overstayed in, all of that.
00:30:20
Hollie Wild
But what I take from the boomer generation is they're, especially in Australia, they're hard as nuts. They are tough. They get on and they get they get on with it. And we can teach our kids that.
00:30:28
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:29
Hollie Wild
But then also from the generation now, we can take on the fact that they are more understanding of, okay, you know, we do store things. okay, we might've mentally moved on from something, but it's still stored in our body.
00:30:38
Victoria R
yeah
00:30:42
Hollie Wild
There's more of this understanding around it. The pendulum does swing too far and people can wallow in the the trauma route, right? Just the same in the boomer generation, they went too far in their hard as nuts way.
00:30:53
Hollie Wild
I think let's take the best from all different generations and bring that into our children. And we can teach our children that, There's a time and a place where we do just have to get on with things. There's a time and a place where we do have to suck it up.
00:31:05
Hollie Wild
There's also a time and a place where we have to acknowledge that maybe that wasn't fair. Maybe the way that we were treated wasn't right.
00:31:09
Victoria R
Yeah. Yep.
00:31:11
Hollie Wild
And maybe it has caused harm and how to process that. And I think that if we take that. that mentality in with our children, that can really help as well. um But yeah, I think honestly, just having that open communication constantly with our kids, constant, a be their safe space so that they can talk about anything.
00:31:26
Victoria R
yeah
00:31:30
Hollie Wild
So if something happened at school, something happened in their friendship circle, they can come to us and they can talk about it. And our instant reaction isn't judgment, it's it's curiosity and it's understanding and being their safest space.
00:31:43
Hollie Wild
So we are the first person they think of to run to if something has happened and help them to process it and and help them to ah to to understand that that you can talk about things with me.
00:31:45
Victoria R
yeah
00:31:55
Hollie Wild
I'm your safe space. I think that's ah that's a really big one as well.
00:31:56
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:31:59
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:31:59
Hollie Wild
I don't know if that answered your question properly.
00:32:00
Victoria R
No, no, it has definitely because, yeah, I think probably, a lot yeah, a lot of what you're probably coming through and um having to, I suppose, address when you are doing these sessions are probably things that have come from childhood or have come from teenagers and, you know, the stuff that you carry from that time.
00:32:00
Hollie Wild
I went off the table.
00:32:13
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:32:17
Victoria R
And it's not saying that anything was right or wrong or, you know, yeah it's just is what it is. Like people are doing the best they can with the knowledge that they have at the time.
00:32:21
Hollie Wild
Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
00:32:25
Victoria R
um And, yeah, it's the same for us as well. Like we're hoping that what we're doing as parents and as educators is the right thing.
00:32:29
Hollie Wild
yeah
00:32:32
Victoria R
Whether it is, who knows? But, yeah, we've we've got this knowledge and we're doing the best with it that we can at the moment. So...
00:32:38
Hollie Wild
Yeah, and i I did really want to acknowledge that because, as I said before, I think we can be so incredibly hard on ourselves as parents of like, oh, my gosh, I lost my temper today.
00:32:39
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:50
Hollie Wild
Oh, my gosh, I didn't react in the best way today. oh my goodness, I just checked out today and just needed to be on my own. And, yes, that is the reality of parenting. There are times and spaces where we lose our cool. There are times and and spaces where we you know may not have said the nicest of thing or whatever it might be.
00:33:08
Hollie Wild
And I'm not saying that that's okay long term, but if that does happen, it is a part of life. We are human. And I think if we own up to it and we, as I said, like get down on their level and explain, you know what?
00:33:15
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:19
Hollie Wild
I lost my cool. I lost it. And that really wasn't nice of me. I raised my voice at you and that wasn't cool. And And I want you to understand that the I'm really sorry. i think that has such a profound effect on children.
00:33:32
Hollie Wild
And as I said, they are really, really forgiving. And I think that that just plays a massive part instead of pretending something didn't happen. I think that's the worst thing because then our children don't feel seen, they don't feel heard and we're no longer their safe space.
00:33:40
Victoria R
yeah
00:33:43
Victoria R
yeah
00:33:45
Hollie Wild
It's not about pretending that we're superhuman. It's about acknowledging that we're flawed. We're flawed and and that's okay.
00:33:50
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:33:52
Hollie Wild
Tomorrow we do better. Like we're not here to try to be perfect.
00:33:54
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:33:56
Hollie Wild
We are humans that are still carrying our own stuff and and we're working through that while being parents and I think yeah that's that's a big thing like
00:34:03
Victoria R
Yeah.
Building Self-Trust and Personal Growth
00:34:05
Hollie Wild
it's a big big thing and some people have been through very traumatic childhoods I haven't some people really really have been through very traumatic experiences and now they're parents and they're learning as they go like we don't get a manual
00:34:05
Victoria R
yeah
00:34:13
Victoria R
yeah
00:34:20
Hollie Wild
when we give birth, this is how you, you're a mom, this is how you, like no one, we learn as we go and we fumble our way through.
00:34:21
Victoria R
No.
00:34:26
Hollie Wild
And sometimes we we're winging it. In fact, I feel like I'm winging it all the time. And sometimes we really get it right and sometimes we don't. And I think just own up when we don't get it right. And that teaches our children so much more than pretending we're perfect, honestly.
00:34:39
Victoria R
Yeah, I love that.
00:34:41
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:34:42
Victoria R
Definitely. So my thoughts just go in totally interesting places when we talk about this.
00:34:46
Hollie Wild
Because I ramble. Mm-hmm. but dadty anying
00:34:50
Victoria R
I was thinking, so obviously we're talking about like our childhood and all the rest of it. Are there ever things that we're carrying that aren't ours?
00:34:59
Victoria R
So are we ever holding on to, as you said, like where trauma can be used different ways, but are we ever holding on to trauma that perhaps was never ours to begin with, but we've carried through? Like I know you did the root cause therapy and you bring that into your work a little bit as well, but does that play a part in spinal energetics too?
00:34:59
Hollie Wild
first floor
00:35:19
Hollie Wild
Oh, yeah, for sure. I think often we are carrying stuff that isn't ours. It's like generational stuff. Like that's huge. Like we can be, ah let's just say somebody was the strong one of the family. Like let's say let's say you, Vic, you were the strong one of your family.
00:35:36
Hollie Wild
Let's just say your siblings relied on you. your Your parents knew that you... this is fictitious, I'm making this up, but let's just say your parents knew that you were always the good one, the the reliable one, you were the strong one, they never had to worry about you.
00:35:52
Hollie Wild
You can be carrying so much more than the one who is outwardly rebellious or outwardly um maybe, you know, dabbling in drugs or dabbling in this, dabbling in that as a teenager.
00:36:05
Hollie Wild
Usually the ones that are deemed as the strong one, which can either be the eldest child, it's quite common, or or just a sibling that was, you know, always calm, always regulated, always the rock of the family.
00:36:06
Victoria R
Yep.
00:36:18
Hollie Wild
And they had to be because mum and dad weren't or one of the parents weren't. You can be carrying so much in your body still today that technically is not yours. You have inherited it technically from your parents or from your grandparents. It's come down through the line.
00:36:32
Hollie Wild
It can often come down through the female line. So grandmother, pass it on to mother, pass it on to us, and we will continue to pass it on unless the buck stops with us. And again, no shame.
00:36:43
Hollie Wild
It's just becoming aware that that this is a reality. And often it's the strongest ones that carry the most.
00:36:47
Victoria R
yeah
00:36:49
Hollie Wild
It's the ones that had to push through no matter what. It's the ones that... um, weren't often checked in on how are you doing? Cause it was just seen as you were always good.
00:37:00
Hollie Wild
You were always reliable. You were always there. You were always the rock of the family because somebody had to step in for mom or someone had to step in for dad. And I find that I have had clients who outwardly are so incredibly strong.
00:37:12
Hollie Wild
They can, can handle anything. The most resilient people, But their body is holding so much. and That's why I say it comes out in physical aspects. Their body is holding so much and maybe it's playing out as really bad anxiety now and they don't know why.
00:37:21
Victoria R
Interesting. Yeah.
00:37:26
Hollie Wild
They're like, my life is great. I don't know why I'm so anxious or whatever it might be. Often it is stemming from stuff that has been passed on through the family lineage that is not even theirs to carry anymore, but they've been holding it their entire life, their entire life, which is pretty heavy.
00:37:41
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's so fascinating how you say like how it is manifesting in different ways. And I love that you mentioned that as well, because obviously, you know, I've explained my history in terms of hitting burnout, all the rest of it.
00:37:54
Hollie Wild
and
00:37:54
Victoria R
And as you said, you know, recognising those little niggles, recognising those signs and then being aware of like, oh, OK, yeah, where's this anxiety coming from or whatever it might be that it's coming through as and actually paying attention to that and going, all right, well, you know, let's address this.
00:37:58
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:38:05
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:38:09
Victoria R
Let's find out.
00:38:11
Hollie Wild
100%.
00:38:11
Victoria R
what's going on yeah because i think a lot of the time we we always just try and ignore it don't we like especially as women are like oh we'll be right like it'll be fine okay let's just yeah yeah get going or i don't have time for this yeah
00:38:16
Hollie Wild
Yeah.
00:38:19
Hollie Wild
Yes. Because we're tough as nails. Yeah. We can endure it. Yeah, we can endure childbirth. So we are very resilient human beings, like let's be honest.
00:38:28
Victoria R
yeah
00:38:30
Hollie Wild
We are tough as nails. um And one of the things that that I do say, and I've said this to clients before, is sure, there is a time and a place where we do have to crack on. We do have to get on with life. There is a time and a place for that.
00:38:40
Victoria R
yeah
00:38:42
Hollie Wild
An example is when I was a police officer, if I was on my period and I went to a crazy domestic violence situation, I couldn't just sit on the floor and cry and say, can someone just give me chocolate? Like I had to just back on.
00:38:53
Hollie Wild
if i If I just had a really bad um argument with my partner and then I went to a terrible domestic violence situation,
00:38:54
Victoria R
No. Yeah.
00:39:02
Hollie Wild
I couldn't just give up. I couldn't just walk out of the job. Like there's a time and a place where we do have to just crack on and get on with it. And maybe ah maybe you're a coach and you have ah a client session next and you've just got to to crack on.
00:39:11
Victoria R
yeah
00:39:17
Hollie Wild
You've just got to to be someone's safe space for a moment. But what I say is that doesn't just go away. So let's just say you've just had ah a really confronting morning or a really or you're processing something
00:39:25
Victoria R
Hmm.
00:39:30
Hollie Wild
um from your relationship with your mum, from your relationship with your dad, whatever it might be. Maybe a family member has has really just gone off on you out of nowhere and was abusive to you, whatever it might be, right?
00:39:42
Hollie Wild
You can crack on for the day and be like, today, I've just got to put it to the side. And that's well and good. But that doesn't go away. We tend to think that then the next day, yeah, I'm still not going to address it. Eventually, oh, it's gone. up It's all good. We won't address it. It does not go anywhere. It stays in our body. It has to be resolved at some point.
Healing through Spinal Energetics
00:40:02
Hollie Wild
But the beauty and the thing that I love about spinal energetics is, and what drew me to this modality so much, is you don't have to consciously know what it's linked to. You don't have to talk about it.
00:40:13
Hollie Wild
So spinal energetics, you're literally laying down and you're not talking. You're not talking about your past. You're not talking about your childhood. You're not talking about something that that is really painful for you if you don't want to.
00:40:25
Hollie Wild
You don't even have to talk about it and your body will naturally unwind it anyway.
00:40:25
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:40:28
Hollie Wild
And I think that's really beautiful because, as I said, like We might have mentally moved on from something, but it doesn't mean that it's gone. It doesn't mean that it's resolved. It's still in our body, but you don't even have to technically talk about it for it to be able to be resolved.
00:40:41
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:40:43
Hollie Wild
that's That's a beautiful thing because everyone wants to talk about the past all the time.
00:40:45
Victoria R
It's fascinating.
00:40:47
Hollie Wild
like It's like, God, we've done all the inner child healing.
00:40:48
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:40:51
Hollie Wild
We've done all the
00:40:51
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:40:53
Hollie Wild
whatever till the cows come home it's like we've mentally done it all and we're strong-minded and all of that it's like I'm i'm done talking about it and now it's like okay here's a way to actually address it from your body without you having to link it back to oh this happened when I was three and this happened when I was 10 and this you don't have to do that just let your body do what it naturally is designed to do like an animal oh
00:40:58
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:41:09
Victoria R
yeah
00:41:12
Victoria R
yeah
00:41:15
Victoria R
Love it. So what are some of the kind of results that you've seen since doing spinal energy? It's like, yeah, I'd love you to tell us some of that.
00:41:22
Hollie Wild
Pain, so pain going is a big one. Those unexplained pains, a lot of people it's with um neck pain is a big one where it's disappeared and it's completely gone.
00:41:24
Victoria R
Yeah. Okay. Yep.
00:41:29
Victoria R
Okay.
00:41:31
Hollie Wild
um A big thing I find is resistance. So where people had a lot of resistance around having big conversations that they needed to have with maybe their spouse or a family member that they've been putting it ah off for ages and then all of a sudden after a spinal energetic session that resistance is gone and they go and have the conversation and it goes a million times better normally than what they had imagined in their mind
00:41:53
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:41:53
Hollie Wild
Or resistance around starting projects in their business or doing something in their career. Resistance around whatever it might be. Resistance is a big one. It's like all of a sudden, whatever was like clogging up energetically in their body has disappeared and it's made space for the new.
00:42:10
Hollie Wild
Another one is anxiousness. I've seen anxious states that were quite severe be drastically reduced from their body being able to unwind because anxiety is not the problem.
00:42:23
Hollie Wild
That's just a messenger.
00:42:23
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:24
Hollie Wild
it's just It's just telling us something is not quite right. Something's not quite working in our life. And normally underneath it is is grief or fear or sadness. That's normally what is actually underneath the anxiousness.
00:42:37
Hollie Wild
And when so when that is addressed, the symptom, which is the anxiety, can disappear. It can fade. It can go from drastically high levels to really low. um For myself, I've had a lot of clarity come through sessions relating to relationships, relating to business, like clarity around what I'm doing, um even like how to structure things.
00:42:57
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:00
Hollie Wild
I had a lot of resistance around for myself having a big conversation with someone that I'd been putting it off. And then literally the day after I had a spinal energetic session, it was like, I was just like, wow, I can have this conversation.
00:43:11
Hollie Wild
Yeah, little, little everyday things. um But I think, yeah, big one is, is that, that resistance and feeling just more at peace and more like centered in yourself where,
00:43:21
Victoria R
yeah
00:43:23
Hollie Wild
You don't feel like you're just trudging through mud day in and day out. It's just like this there's weight, this weight has been lifted off because you think about it, if we're storing emotions and unprocessed things from our past, that is a that's a weight to the point that I've even had
00:43:41
Victoria R
yeah wow
00:43:43
Hollie Wild
had clients say that they have lost physical weight from their body without changing anything. Because when you address things from an emotional level, that that is baggage and that that can correlate to physical baggage.
00:43:57
Hollie Wild
So it all is it's all connected. Everything connects back to the body.
00:43:59
Victoria R
wow that's very fascinating i love this stuff
00:44:01
Hollie Wild
Yeah. Yeah, it really is. And there's so many more I could say that I could honestly talk about this all day. it's It's different for everyone.
00:44:11
Hollie Wild
But I would say the main thing it comes back to is that resistance thing, that resistance of where there was a lot of resistance before and now that's gone.
00:44:11
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:44:19
Hollie Wild
And that can play out different for different people depending on what they're doing in life. But um I think that's a real big one. And then, yeah, the physical pain, the physical ailments, that one, that one shocked me, even though I knew it, because in our training, they talked about it. And and of course, they never say that this is a treatment. We're not doctors.
00:44:38
Hollie Wild
We're not here to diagnose people. we're not dishing out medication, nothing like that. Like, still see your doctors, still see your naturopaths, do whatever you're doing.
00:44:45
Victoria R
Yep.
00:44:46
Hollie Wild
This is just to complement whatever you're already doing in your life. But yeah, physical pain literally disappeared from people's body because it was stemming from energetically, like what they're storing in their body and physically what they're storing in their body. And sometimes it can be like, for instance, I had a client who tripped over and who um who hurt herself.
00:45:09
Hollie Wild
who hurt her ankle. And yes, that is a physical thing that happens in life, but through spinal energetics, through being able to address emotions, that actually helped to heal that ankle. Because so you think about it, we might just be like, yeah, like things happen in life, we trip over whatever.
00:45:25
Hollie Wild
But sometimes that can be from we've been carrying a load for so long emotionally that it plays out in a physical way to get our attention to address what is still stored in our body.
00:45:33
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:45:34
Hollie Wild
Yeah, it fascinates me.
00:45:35
Victoria R
It's interesting because I know like if I'm, yeah, not fully grounded, like that's when I find like I'm dropping things, I'm running into things like, you know, so of course it, yeah, I guess it's, yeah.
00:45:42
Hollie Wild
you know there's a heaviness and and there's a there's a resistance in everyday life yeah for sure and we're more we're more clumsy or we get hurt more often and yeah it's trying it's just trying to get our intelligence our our attention and our bodies are just so incredibly intelligent like they're so wise they they're not broken and I want to make that clear they're not broken nobody needs to fix you there's nothing wrong
00:45:48
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:55
Victoria R
yeah like yeah
00:46:00
Victoria R
Yeah. They are. Yeah.
00:46:09
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:46:09
Hollie Wild
it's
00:46:09
Hollie Wild
incredibly intelligent and wise and and it is able to unwind whatever is stored and to um yeah unwind those tension patterns it just needs the safe space to do so that's all it needs yeah
00:46:22
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:46:24
Victoria R
I love it. if people come into a spinal energetic session with you, what um what are the expectations in terms of how quickly they may see results? Or is it going to be dependent on just themselves? It varies for everyone, I'm guessing.
00:46:38
Hollie Wild
Yeah, it does. It does vary.
00:46:39
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:46:39
Hollie Wild
It is hard. And i I don't like this fact. I like to better give people straight answers. It is hard to say what someone is going to be able to expect straight after a session, because you think about it, it depends on one, their connection to their own body that plays into it.
00:46:56
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:46:58
Hollie Wild
the how easy they they have the ability to um be less in their mind during a session and just be able to relax into it and to learn to listen to the cues of of their body.
00:47:10
Hollie Wild
um Like so many factors can play into it. But I would say people can start, the this is why I talk about the resistance thing, people can start to pay attention to that pretty quickly.
00:47:21
Hollie Wild
Because if I say to them, If they've just had a session and I say, pay attention to where you had a lot of resistance before, where maybe over the next few days and weeks, it's a lot less. And when they're aware of that in their minds, they start looking for, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, i had that conversation.
00:47:35
Hollie Wild
Oh, yeah, I just ah just made that um new, I don't know,
00:47:36
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah, man. Mm-mm.
00:47:41
Hollie Wild
business decision or created a new program for my business. Whereas before I've been thinking about it for five months or whatever it might be. And they start to pay attention. Some people it's instant. They come into the session, they're in chronic pain and the the pain goes during the session. It's instant for them.
00:47:55
Hollie Wild
For others, they will literally be crying during the session and have memories return um that they hadn't thought about for so long.
00:47:55
Victoria R
yeah
00:48:01
Hollie Wild
And so they instantly are like, oh, wow, like this was an instant visceral, I felt this instantly. For some people, it takes a little bit of time to build that mind-body connection.
00:48:10
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:11
Hollie Wild
So it is different for everybody. But I would say if you aren't noticing changes, this is just personal, if you're not noticing changes within three to six sessions, if you're not, if you're like,
00:48:19
Victoria R
yeah
00:48:23
Hollie Wild
no, I'm getting nothing out of this within three to six sessions. Maybe it's not the right modality for you. Does not mean that individual is broken again. Does not mean they're doing something wrong. It just might not be the modality for them.
00:48:34
Hollie Wild
Just like chiropractic is not for everyone.
00:48:34
Victoria R
yeah
00:48:36
Hollie Wild
Just like yoga is not for everyone. Like it doesn't mean that this this is the the right thing for every single human being on the planet. um
00:48:43
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:48:44
Hollie Wild
But also i will say, there is no requirement on that individual to perform anything. They're literally, whether it's via Zoom or in person, they literally are just laying down and relaxing.
00:48:56
Victoria R
It's lovely.
00:48:57
Hollie Wild
Like that's it.
00:48:57
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:48:57
Hollie Wild
Yeah, right? Like you don't have to be somebody's performance monkey. There's no expectation on you to do anything or even to believe in it because it's not a belief system.
00:49:02
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:49:07
Hollie Wild
It's not a religion. it's not anything. it's not anything It's not like... yeah it's not a belief system. So it doesn't require someone to believe in it for it to have an effect on their body, which is cool as well.
00:49:20
Victoria R
Yeah. And I love how you're so transparent about all of this as well. Like you're like, literally like this is the facts. I think, ah you know, that's so refreshing, especially when people are constantly trying to plug things or push things and and you're like, you know, like it may work for you, it may not.
00:49:32
Hollie Wild
Turns me off.
00:49:34
Victoria R
That's okay.
00:49:34
Hollie Wild
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
00:49:34
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:49:37
Victoria R
yeah
00:49:37
Hollie Wild
I don't think it's the be all, end all.
00:49:38
Hollie Wild
It's not something that like, um especially coming from my very cultish upbringing, I'm against really pedestalling things or being like, this is the answer for everyone.
00:49:50
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:49:51
Hollie Wild
Cause that's what I thought I had to do growing up. I thought that I was there to, to save the whole world.
00:49:53
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:49:55
Hollie Wild
So this is why I don't use the term healer. I'm not healing anybody. I'm not, I'm not some guru. I'm not doing something to you. Like I'm really against all that language.
00:50:05
Hollie Wild
I try to really ground it and bring it down to earth because the videos themselves, when you see the spinal energetics videos, they are crazy enough without me adding anything into that to make it any more crazy.
00:50:17
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:50:17
Hollie Wild
Yeah. Right, like, let's to be honest.
00:50:18
Victoria R
I love it.
00:50:19
Hollie Wild
they They look like an exorcism. I promise you they're not, but they look like that. So I don't need to be adding in guru, healer labels and language.
00:50:28
Victoria R
Yep.
00:50:28
Hollie Wild
And I just keep it grounded. Like, if it's not for you, it's not for You you don't have to, yeah, zero expectations.
00:50:32
Victoria R
Yep.
00:50:35
Victoria R
Love it. Love it. I'm very conscious of time. probably need to finish up. I do have a couple more things quickly to ask you.
00:50:41
Hollie Wild
Oh, ask whatever you want.
00:50:41
Victoria R
Last one. If you um could leave the listeners with one piece of advice, what do you think?
00:50:46
Hollie Wild
Oh, God.
00:50:47
Victoria R
What would that be? I know that's a very broad question that I'm asking. Yeah.
00:50:52
Hollie Wild
Yeah, no. Okay. This is left field, but I think, I think one of the most important things in life is, and this is random, is building self-trust.
00:51:02
Hollie Wild
I come back to this a lot and it's because it's been probably my biggest life lesson for myself is, and is that self-trust.
00:51:03
Victoria R
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:51:12
Hollie Wild
And I think this plays into Even the work that I do now is is like trusting what our bodies are saying and don't just dismiss it. But even just in everyday life, I think if you can keep one promise to yourself every single day, it can be small.
00:51:26
Hollie Wild
It can be so small. It can. Like to me, self-trust is confidence. They are literally the same thing. The more self-trust you have, the more confidence you have. And I learned this the hard way from having none of either.
00:51:38
Hollie Wild
And so the more that I kept my word to myself, kept my promises to myself, like in little ways, if I said I was gonna do something, I would follow through on it.
00:51:38
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:51:45
Hollie Wild
If I said I wasn't going to do something, I wouldn't do it. And the more that I did that, just in the small everyday ways, my self-trust went through the roof, which meant my confidence in myself went through the roof.
00:51:56
Hollie Wild
which also meant that I knew that no matter what I could face, no matter what I would face in life, I had my back. Like I knew I would get through anything no matter what, because I have that trust.
00:52:04
Victoria R
yeah
00:52:06
Hollie Wild
Like I have the track record of keeping my word, of keeping my promises, of of building that self-trust. And that then plays in with how strong my intuition is now.
00:52:16
Hollie Wild
Like I could hear it so strongly and I listen because I have the trust to know that's not just random, that's that's my intuition.
00:52:22
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:52:22
Hollie Wild
And that's how my connection with my body has built.
Self-Trust in Personal Development
00:52:26
Hollie Wild
And so, yeah, I would say that's one of the biggest things I can say to someone is you truly want to revolution revolutionize your world in every single way possible is keep promises to yourself every single day, even if it's teeny tiny, keep, keep doing that every single day, start small and build. And especially if someone doesn't have a lot of self-trust,
00:52:49
Hollie Wild
feels like they don't follow through or lacks confidence or even feels like they don't have a lot of self-worth, I'm telling you it links back to this. It's the biggest takeaway of my life with self-trust.
00:53:00
Victoria R
Oh, I love that.
00:53:01
Hollie Wild
So i left field.
00:53:01
Victoria R
That's such a good one, Holly.
00:53:02
Hollie Wild
and I've lived both sides of it.
00:53:03
Victoria R
So good.
00:53:05
Victoria R
Yeah.
00:53:06
Hollie Wild
It's painful when you have no self-trust.
00:53:08
Victoria R
Yeah, you're like, trust me on this one, okay?
00:53:10
Hollie Wild
Trust me. Build your self-trust. Yeah.
00:53:13
Victoria R
And last question for you, where can people find you? If they want to book in with you, what are their options?
Connecting with Holly
00:53:19
Hollie Wild
oh
00:53:19
Victoria R
Let us know how to find Holly.
00:53:21
Victoria R
Yep.
00:53:21
Hollie Wild
The best place is probably just the website, which is hollywild.com.
00:53:24
Hollie Wild
Holly is H-O-L-L-I-E. My parents had to be different with the spelling.
00:53:27
Victoria R
Yeah, and I'll put this in the show notes. Yep.
00:53:30
Hollie Wild
So hollywild.com. And I'm also on Instagram as hollywild, but with a double D because someone already took the name. oh so annoying. So it's a double D.
00:53:41
Hollie Wild
My boobs are not double D.
00:53:41
Victoria R
oh
00:53:42
Hollie Wild
I wish they were, but my Instagram handle is a double D. that That'll stay in everyone's mind now.
00:53:45
Victoria R
I'll pop in the show notes too.
00:53:48
Hollie Wild
I've got teeny tiny itty bitties, but double D on Instagram.
00:53:50
Victoria R
yeah
00:53:51
Hollie Wild
um Yeah, yeah, they're probably the two best places and the links are in the bio of my Instagram and, I mean, it's all on the website. And, yeah, reach out if anyone has any questions or anything.
00:53:59
Victoria R
and i'll pop in the show
00:54:03
Hollie Wild
I'm approachable, I promise.
00:54:03
Victoria R
Yes, she's very approachable for those listening. Holly is lovely. So there's no issues with that at all.
00:54:10
Hollie Wild
no
00:54:10
Victoria R
um Oh, that's so good. Thank you, Holly. I really appreciate you jumping on and joining me today because I know, yeah, it's such an interesting modality that you're offering. And I know a lot of people probably haven't heard of it.
00:54:22
Victoria R
So I'm so thankful that you're able to explain it all.
00:54:22
Hollie Wild
marine
00:54:25
Victoria R
And hopefully it's helped people out there and they'll get a little bit curious and go and discover what it is that you do.
00:54:30
Hollie Wild
Yeah, it's pretty out there.
00:54:33
Victoria R
Yeah, but i love it. I love all that story stuff.
00:54:34
Hollie Wild
Same.
00:54:35
Victoria R
Like I said, it fascinates me. So, yeah.
00:54:37
Hollie Wild
Yeah, same.
00:54:37
Victoria R
Thank you so much, Holly. I appreciate it.
00:54:38
Hollie Wild
Oh, thank you Thank you so much.