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Goal Line: Losey
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The boys catch everyone up on the past week of football action and the two mini-miracles we saw on Sunday.
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Craft Beer and Sports Victories
00:00:15
Speaker
what is up goal line listeners we are back with the week eight episode of the goal line Jordan what's going on man not too much man just uh yeah ready to recap another weekend of exciting football and i actually just cracked one of Seth's favorite beers i just cracked a juice juice bomb IPA from sloop brewing i still have another eight i still have eight more left so
00:00:38
Speaker
Yeah, I've been bugging our local craft beer place or not our local but the craft beer place I hit up in Memphis. It's the best one around here. I've been hitting them up like hitting on sloops distribution. So if they distribute in Nebraska, they should be able to distribute. No, this is not distributed in Nebraska. Somebody from the East Coast brought this back with them for me.
00:00:55
Speaker
Nice, yeah, they're very good man. I look pretty much anything sleep does is great, but their juice bomb. It's really excellent Yeah, I just popped the top on a broken skull IPA man.
Nebraska and Indiana Football Analysis
00:01:04
Speaker
So we're definitely gonna be getting a little bit loose tonight It's gonna be a fun one quick update on Brett's Tigers. You guys heard him last episode give that interview we did beat the the silver lines of Lakeland and
00:01:15
Speaker
Twenty-four to nothing seven and oh now that that was our sixth shutout of the season. So we're going we're averaging less than a point allowed Per game now because we're at six points allowed all season. So we got our season finale It's gonna be a tough game against a millington Trojans, but if we win, we'll be the number one Seeding the playoffs man. So it's all lining up for a run to the championship. Oh, yeah All right, man, you ready to talk some some big boy football. Let's do it
00:01:47
Speaker
Alright, as always, we're gonna put ourselves through punishment for you guys and talk about our football team. So we'll go ahead and get it started with the Huskers from Saturday. I cannot fucking believe this game was this close. They should have won it man. I was fully prepared for them to get blown out. And honestly, I would rather them got blown out than lose by four because yeah, they they should have won this game easily. There's no reason they didn't win this game. I just
00:02:16
Speaker
It's frustrating, man. Like when you're that close to beating a team and, um, breaking your streak. I mean, they hadn't, they haven't beat a team that high in the pool since 2001. And they haven't beat a ranked team in eight years. So when, when you got a chance to break a streak like that, like you got to finish the job and they just didn't, I mean, they're just, they're offensive coordinator is not good enough. It just, it just says what it is at this point.
00:02:41
Speaker
I do want to say, uh, you know, for the record, I don't think we talked about on the pod. I did think it was tremendously disrespectful that Ohio state was a, what 25 point favorites, right? Yeah. Yeah. I thought Nebraska has been a pretty tough team this year from, from what I've watched and just keeping up with a man. So I knew they were going to play them tougher than that. And yeah, damn near pulled off the huge upset.
00:02:59
Speaker
Let's uh, let's stay in college football. Tennessee didn't play this weekend. They had a bye. I do want to, there's one team I really want to talk to you about and it's the team to rascal played a week ago, Indiana. I've never seen a team go eight and O and they're still absolutely disrespected. Dude. They're in a power five conference. They are eight and O and they are not, are not even in the top 10. They're 13th in the country. What dude, what do they have to do at this point?
00:03:26
Speaker
I think it's just the path that they've had, dude. I don't think, I don't even think they necessarily got, I think they play Ohio state in two weeks. Is that right? It's the week before Thanksgiving. It's the week before. Okay. So three weeks. Yeah. I don't think they even need to necessarily beat Ohio state. I think if they just play Ohio state competitively and you know, go down swinging, I think that will legitimize them in people's eyes. But yeah, I mean they, you know, even if they lose one man, they got a solid shot at sneaking one of those last playoff spots, man.
00:03:52
Speaker
Here's my dude is pretty crazy. Cause the thing is they've been beating teams convincingly. Here's my biggest issue with it. Okay. Like we'll just start at eight. Notre Dame is eight. They're seven and one. They lost the hardest game they played all year or the one of the easiest game they played all year to Northern Illinois.
00:04:10
Speaker
They beat Navy and they beat Texas A&M, which that A&M one does look like a whole hell of a lot better. Yeah, A&M is looking pretty tough. Navy, I would say they
NCAA Rankings and Big 10 Dynamics
00:04:19
Speaker
had an impressive showing against a good Navy team, but Navy did basically piss down their leg the entire first half of that game. Five turnovers.
00:04:25
Speaker
Um, BYU should be in the top 10 A&M's and in front of them with that new quarterback they got, dude, they looked legit man. He straight up electrified on a Saturday night when he got in and then against LSU. And then the other two teams ahead of him, you got Clemsen at six and one, which they lost their only hard game of the season when they played Georgia. So I don't really agree with that one. And then Iowa state. So, I mean, I guess there's an argument to be made here for what you just said about their schedule, but
00:04:54
Speaker
I don't know, man, it just feels like they're being so disrespected. Dude, they've scored 372 points and only given up 113. That's the thing. Yeah, their, their schedule is definitely on the softer side, but they've been straight up drugging teams. Do you know what I mean? They beat a good Nebraska team 56 to seven. We saw what Nebraska did against the Buckeyes just this last weekend. And you know, Washington's obviously dropped off big time this year, but still that's a team that was playing in the national championship last year. They went out and beat them Saturday.
00:05:20
Speaker
They got Michigan State. They need to handle their business. And then I think those next two weeks are really what's going to make or break this Indiana season, both in regards to, you know, making the playoffs and even more so than that, like if people think this was like a legit, really, really impressive season, or if they just kind of got on a little bit of a lucky streak against some weaker opponents, man, they need to show out against Michigan and Ohio State.
00:05:41
Speaker
Yeah, so they got Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State, and then Purdue to close it out. I think if they beat Michigan State and Michigan handily, like they handle business, and then at least give a good showing in the Ohio State game, I think they're in the playoffs no matter what at that point. Yeah, yeah, they're definitely going to be in the conversation at a minimum.
00:06:00
Speaker
It's going to be interesting, dude. The big 10 right now has three teams in the top four, Oregon, Penn State, and Ohio State. Now, granted, Ohio State and Penn State play this week. So that'll drop one of them. But I mean, unless it's a throttling, like neither one is going to drop that far. And there's no divisions anymore, right? It's just straight up the top two teams in the conference play for the conference championship. Yeah. So you got, yeah, like I said, Penn State, Oregon, and Indiana, all three undefeated in conference play right now.
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah, and Oregon's last three games, they have four games left. They got to play at Michigan. They got Maryland at home. They got Wisconsin at Wisconsin. And then they got Washington at home to close it out. Dude, the crazy thing is, man, Indiana could lose to Ohio State. And if Ohio State loses to Penn State this week, then Indiana could theoretically lose to Ohio State and still end up playing for the conference championship. They would need Penn State to lose those problems. Right.
00:06:56
Speaker
Because Penn State, after Ohio State, has Washington, Purdue, Minnesota, and Maryland. So Penn State's home free if they get past, unless something shocking happens. Oregon still got at Michigan, which obviously Michigan's not the Michigan we'd known during the Harbaugh era. But that's still going to be a tough game. Then they go to Wisconsin, which that's going to be a tough place to win also, man. Yeah, dude. The way this shakes down the last couple of weeks of the season is going to be really fun to watch. It does suck that we're really winding this down now.
00:07:26
Speaker
Dude, we got four rounds of playoffs though, dude. That's the great thing about it before, you know, but yeah, true of three. Well, no, no, no. Yeah. Four rounds. Yeah. You got four whole rounds of playoffs. Look forward to man. So I think there's still a lot of ball left man.
NFL Team Performances and Strategies
00:07:39
Speaker
We still got the conference championships. If you're Indiana, dude, like
00:07:42
Speaker
Do you, are you, are you content to take, you know, a one loss regular season record and, and, and, you know, see where the chips land or are you, you know, or do you feel like you dodged a bullet if you avoid playing in that big 10 championship? No, I think they're going to do everything they can. That coach, he runs his mouth and he backs it up, dude. He just, that dude is not writing checks that his ass can't cash. He's, he's definitely throwing down the gauntlet at everybody.
00:08:10
Speaker
I think I heard you mentioned it before too, but in there, some sort of language or something put out that there's not going to be a penalty for teams losing the conference championship games, you know, compared to teams that aren't playing in it. Yeah. So unless you're, I thought it said, unless you're like, if you're in the top 15, there's not going to be a penalty for losing conference title game. Like, so, I mean, basically it kind of sounds like almost like they're, they're basically locking in the seeds before the conference title games.
00:08:38
Speaker
And assuming the teams win that they think are going to win, they'll already have the top four locked in before the conference championship games even happen. Yeah, that makes sense, man. Yeah, like I, yeah, like you said, maybe go ahead and lock in the field and just let the conference championship affect, you know, possible seating and stuff. Yeah, I think that's what they should do.
00:09:00
Speaker
Dude, the only team that's on the outside looking in right now, well, there's two. So for non-power five teams, you got Boise State and SMU is the only two you got left now. Dude, if Boise State keeps winning, they are gonna be a problem for somebody in that playoff. Yeah, they're tough, man. Don't you agree? Oh yeah, definitely, dude. They can play, man. I mean, they're running backs, one of the probably the top four or five best players in all college football.
00:09:27
Speaker
Yeah, they're gonna be, they're gonna be really tough to beat. That's it, man. That's all I wanted to really touch on for college football. Oh, I guess we should talk about Texas squeaking by Vanderbilt. Jesus, dude. I thought Texas was just gonna come on handle business. I was shocked by that.
00:09:47
Speaker
Yeah, I mean did I think very what's a tough team they're inside they've had enough performances now that I don't think that reflects as poorly on Texas as it would have if the game happened a month ago, man I think you know, they're there already, you know, they're so far licking their wounds a little bit from that Georgia game dude and they came at it that you know, they
00:10:03
Speaker
They withstood it though, man. I kind of liked how a little bit of the moxie that they showed, man. Hey, before we move off college, dude, got to get some props, man. Colorado, bowl eligible, dude. Yeah, that's crazy. We wrote them off, man. But, you know, like Geno Smith said, luckily they didn't read any of the letters, man. So freaking... Didn't write back.
00:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, they didn't write back, man. Dude, say what you want about Deion, man. He's took a team, they were 1-11, and now they've gone to, you know, he took them to 4-8 last year, now they're at 6-2, man. And playing some pretty good ball, dude. I don't know what happened, because after that, I mean, it's right on the air. You can go back and listen to it, dude. After that Nebraska game, we thought this team was maybe going 1-11 again. It looked bad.
00:10:41
Speaker
but they short up the front on offense and defense and they're playing some pretty damn good football. Travis Hunter, probably the best player in the nation. You got to remember, dude, when we said that though, the big 12 had six teams ranked in the top 25 and they out of those six, the only one that they played out of those six that were still ranked was Kansas state and they, they lost to him. The big 12 is a dumpster fire.
00:11:04
Speaker
Yeah, big 12 has been a lot weaker than we expected, but I still Colorado still look pretty impressive to me, man I'm looking hopefully they get a I don't think they're gonna sniff the playoff obviously dude, but I hope they get a pretty interesting Bowl game because I really want to see what she door does against some different top-level talent. Yeah That's the thing. I don't know about this team like
00:11:24
Speaker
They've played two, I mean, if you want to call Nebraska a good team, they've played two good teams this year with Kansas state and Nebraska. And that's their two losses. I just, I don't know what I did. I think this team in Cincinnati was five and two coming in, dude. And they took, they took Kansas state to the wire, man. They, I mean, they probably should have beat Kansas state. I'm a huge Cincinnati basketball fan and I pay attention to their football team. That team is not good.
00:11:49
Speaker
They lost, dude, since they beat Towson, Miami of Ohio, Houston who's terrible, UCF by six in Arizona State. That's not a good football team.
00:12:00
Speaker
All you can do is play the teams. No, I agree with you. I agree with you, but I'm just kind of defending us a little bit. Like at that point, we, everybody thought the big 12 was going to be good. Like dude, Utah was supposed to be good. Kansas was supposed to be good. Arizona was playing well at that time. Oklahoma state was in the top 25 dude, the big 12 outside of the top three teams is completely tanked.
00:12:22
Speaker
Yeah, it's not, it shouldn't be called the big 12 anymore, man. We need to bring back freakin bring back the whack or something like that, dude. They don't deserve the big 12 name. I agree. Yeah, it's, it's not good, but yeah, I agree. Good on them. I still don't think he's the coach. You know, you already know how I feel about the heads. It's not plugged in, man. His heads is not plugged into anything. There's no way dude. He's not a coach. He just, he's streaming Shannon sharps podcast, man. It is hit while the game's going on.
00:12:49
Speaker
That would be the greatest thing ever if somebody could prove that. All right, let's move into NFL. We'll start with the Falcons. It wasn't pretty impressive game, dude. I don't know how you aren't happy with it, dude.
00:13:05
Speaker
I'm not even a Falcons fan anymore. I just follow vicariously through you, man. And I was thrilled seeing Kirk Cousins gotten tossed another four touchdown passes, man, to take away the absolutely moronic play that Kyle Pitts made, which probably should have changed the outcome of that game. I thought that was a good one, dude. Tampa Bay's banged up, but they're still a tough, well-coached football team, man.
00:13:25
Speaker
And they went in there, dude, they brought out the freak in the bucko jerseys, man. And the crowd was fired up and they went in the lines in and got a windy to sweep them. So they basically have like a two game lead in the division. Yeah, they're four and oh in division now. And all they got, they got to play the Saints one more time, I think in two weeks. Yeah. It's the week after this Cowboys game. And then they got the Panthers to close out the season. Like, dude, they're already going to be basically done with their division by the time they hit their bye week because all they got left is the Panthers at that point.
00:13:54
Speaker
I don't, I looked at their schedule the other day. If this team finds a way to piss away this division, there's going to be some problems. Like I don't, they have the statistically, they have the easiest schedule. That's the way I mean, dude, the rest of the NFC dude, the nobody in the NFC North, I think it's going to come out with a really, really great record, man. I think as great as the lions look, I see them dropping a game or two to the Vikings and the Packers over the second half of the season. I think that slugfest is going to keep
00:14:20
Speaker
whichever team, you know, we may end up with three teams coming out of that division and making the playoffs. I don't think any of them are going to be the one seed man. Atlanta could end up being, uh, you know, similar to the, the 2021 Titans, man, where you're not necessarily a world leader, but you kind of just, you know, you're, you're the last man standing with the best record and you end up being the number one seed. And then dude, it's two wins in Atlanta and they're in the super bowl, man.
00:14:40
Speaker
I know we're getting way, way, way ahead of ourselves. And I know you're a way bigger pessimist than I am, but I think it's out there, dude. I think that, I think that pathway is there, dude, that they can just stay consistent, man. I think the big thing is just the inconsistency. I still stand by what I said last week that this is a team that they could beat the absolute best of the best and they can lose to the absolute worst of the worst in the NFL, man. I just think they just a high variance rate for this, this year's Falcons. Yeah. It's, I will say cousins has been,
00:15:08
Speaker
After that first game, he has been way better than what I expected him to be, honestly. He's been worth that. He's been worth that outrageous contract. I think he's earned his paycheck so far. He's bald out, dude. And I'll give him credit. Seems like he's infused a lot of spirit in the team also, man. I'll give him credit, man. I did not think this receiving core was good enough. Mooney has played his ass off, dude. That dude has really turned into a really good number two receiver. London has been- Kyle Pitts is looking like the rookie version of Kyle Pitts again.
00:15:36
Speaker
I don't know what it is about that dude. It's like he gives like 10% effort on half the plays a game. Dude, when that dude puts in effort, he just blows by his guy in the secondary like nobody can guard him. He's fucking gigantic. And he runs like a four or five like, I think he's definitely got a little bit of bitch assness to all he does from watching him the last four years, dude, I think I think he's a hell of an athlete out
00:16:00
Speaker
You know, he's a freak really with his size and speed, but there's definitely a little bit of bitch assness there, dude. He's not a dog, I don't think. Here's the thing for the Falcons. And I was excited for Judon and he has not performed at all. Part of that is they have no other pass rush.
00:16:16
Speaker
they have to get someone else on the other side of him. They cannot create any pressure against the quarterback. And it's causing them problems. I mean, that game shouldn't even have been close. They didn't have Godwin or Evans. And there was times where the Bucks just looked completely out of sorts and Falcons defense looked decent. And then there was just times where the Falcons defense looked like they weren't even on the field. So
00:16:38
Speaker
I don't know. I still think they need another pass rusher, but dude, I can't really complain with the offense. Here's my only complaint and me and you have texted back and forth about this numerous times about whether they should have taken Bijon or not.
00:16:52
Speaker
This dude, when they give him the ball and they feed him the ball and let him get into rhythm, he's unreal. I love Tyler Algier. Tyler Algier is not holding a candle to Bijon. I've watched it with my own eyes enough this season to know Bijon is the dude. If you need him to make someone miss, he's going to make someone miss. Algier is just he's there to run you over, and he's there to get yards. That's all he's there for. He's not going to make a flashy play. It's just that's who he is.
00:17:21
Speaker
But I just, I feel like they got to get Bijon the ball more. I just, I don't know how you do it or cause I said it last week, dude, cousins is a rhythm thrower and that's what he is. Like if you get him into, yeah, if you get him into a good rhythm, he can chuck it all over the yard and get it going. But the problem is if they lean on the run game too much, then cousins gets out of rhythm and then who knows what their offense is going to look like is they're in a weird situation.
00:17:47
Speaker
I think that as long as everybody stays healthy, man, I really Kirk cousin specifically who I'm talking about there. I think, I think there's a very high ceiling on what this team could do this season, man. I'm excited for you. Yeah. All right. Now let's talk about your team. Um, I don't even know where to begin with.
00:18:04
Speaker
What happened yesterday like good that you just got smoked by a much better team and as just did sloppy Lack of preparation likes dude special teams is like 90% effort man, and they were just getting rocked on special teams I think the I think the Lions were like maybe like 25 30 yards away from set the all-time record for punt return yards in a game man that
00:18:25
Speaker
Dude, the way it's going, man, I really think that Callahan is, there's potential for him to be one and done, man. That's how bad it's getting. Cause they invested a lot of money, dude. Titan spent a lot of money this off season, man. And yeah, dude, maybe they try to pin this all on Will Levis, making the scapegoat. But if he was this bad that, you know, a month plus into the season, you're, you're determined this dude like cannot play for us anymore.
00:18:48
Speaker
That's on the coaching staff if they didn't identify that in the offseason. You know what I mean? It's one thing if you get through the whole season, you're like, yeah, you know what, this guy's a thumbs down. But if it's this much of a failure out the gate, the coaches should have identified this in the offseason, man. And maybe the Titans are trading for Russell Wilson or bring Tana Hill back for one more year, God forbid.
00:19:08
Speaker
But yeah, that was a pitiful showing man. Really disgraceful, dude. I feel bad because, you know, the Titans do got a passionate fan base, man. I think the fans deserve better than that. And dude, there's some good ass players on that team, man. Look at freaking Jeffrey Simmons still flying around. Even them getting their asses kicked like that, he was still standing out and making plays and stuff off the D-line. But it's only so much one D-line than can do, you know, when you're getting a beat down like that. So impressive showing from the Lions, man. That's exactly what you're supposed to do if you're an elite team, is beat the shit out of the piss-poor teams.
00:19:36
Speaker
And that's what they did, man. So I sent Jordan the picture yesterday, man. I should do or already photoshopped until Oilers Jersey. That's kind of where my head's at right now with nine weeks left to go in the season.
00:19:49
Speaker
I mean, at this point, the Titans have to trade anyone on defense with any value. Like they don't really have a choice. They just- It's taken like a long ways away. I think we're, I think there's, you need like a good like two, three years rebuild. So yeah, if you can get my first, if you can get a second round pick for Jeffrey Simmons, why not? Bro, that game was 14, 14, 38 seconds into the second quarter. They lost 52 to 14 and the Lions did not score a point in the fourth quarter.
00:20:17
Speaker
that's been the weird thing man why I don't know if it's if it's the coaching scheme or what do you think that's kind of been the the script for the Titans this season man they're not really getting like necessarily smoked out of gates they're hanging with teams for a little bit I mean last week they hung with the Bills for basically three quarters
00:20:33
Speaker
Obviously I got out of hand way earlier this week, but I mean, dude, it looked like the first quarter and a half, dude, Mason Rudolph was making, and he had some picks, but he was bouncing right back, making some big plays, had a really nice touchdown run. And it looked like, you know, maybe this is going to be some kind of wild slugfest, dude. And it, you know, it ended up being a slugfest, but all the slugs were being thrown by one side. I just, I don't know what you do if you're the Titans. Like you said, they invested a ton of money in the off season.
00:20:57
Speaker
They spent money like they were going to be back in the mix this year, and it's their farther than they've been since at least like 2014, the year for Mariota got there, dude. I mean, Mariota made the playoffs a few times in the years that they didn't make the playoffs for Mariota. They were kind of right in the mix. You know, they'd be that team playing in week 17 where, you know, a winning endgame.
00:21:16
Speaker
And then obviously Tana Hill had some great years took him to the conference championship. They were the one seed in the AFC one year. Uh, so yeah, I mean, this is the worst off the Titans have been since probably the 2014 season. And it's a, it's a bummer, man. I mean, dude, at this point, like there's their ceiling is three wins, right? Like that's like the absolute highest they can go. The season is three wins to me after
00:21:37
Speaker
I'm sure they'll sneak one out, man, because it's enough tough ass players left on that team. But I would not pick them to win it. I don't think I'm going to go into another Sunday this season expecting them to win. Like I said, I'm sure they'll sneak one or two more out. But yeah, man, I don't think you would get anybody to put money on the Titans winning four games this season. No, I agree.
00:21:58
Speaker
Okay. Let's go back to Thursday night. Um, the Rams beat the Vikings, dude. I mentioned this last week or two weeks ago on the podcast. I said when the Rams got healthy, they were going to make a run at this.
00:22:09
Speaker
You nailed it. Dude, this team with Puka and cup is, they are just a way different team. And by the way, I'm going to go ahead and call said that on the air. This motherfucker was trying to tell me Puka was not a top 10 receiver before the season started. When that dude is on the field, he is a top 10 receiver. That dude balls out. He had, he practiced one time in the last two months and they came out there and did that. Like
00:22:33
Speaker
I love the the blocking dude, dude is a freaking beast in the the run game, man He was nailing some nasty crack back blocks All night, man. So yeah, I was I was pretty impressed with that part of it But yet with with cup and puka back dude, the Rams they look legit dude puka cup and Kyron Williams is a nasty little trifecta for your offense and
00:22:57
Speaker
I will never understand how puka naku was the lowest graded player at the combine last year. Like, how the hell did McVey see this dude and they drafted him in the fifth round. And people were like, why the fuck would you draft this dude, he you can easily pick him up as a free agent, dude, pick the dude and
00:23:16
Speaker
Dude McVeigh just has something about him and that that dude just knows what he's doing when it comes to offensive players It's it's unreal and everybody talked about how bad this Rams defense is gonna be this year There's his young they fly roll all over the field like dude
00:23:31
Speaker
I had no thought of them beating the Vikings. I mean, I didn't know puka and cup. We're going to play. That might have changed. Even if you knew they were coming in, man, I still think it'd be iffy at best. Yeah. Cause I didn't think puka was going to play full snaps or cup and they both played full snaps. Like
00:23:47
Speaker
I do. This team is about to go on a run now. I think like they're, they're dangerous. They're a dangerous team and they've got almost all their NFC West games left. They already beat the 49ers once. So yeah, they're going to be a dangerous out when it gets close to playoff time, as long as they stay healthy Vikings dude, two losses in four days after being undefeated.
00:24:09
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, they're fine. This sucks dude. But yeah, I think that was obviously the game Sunday, then it's the lines was an awesome game against another top tier team and a couple of balances that goes either way. And that was in a tough spot, man, coming off that and having to go Thursday night to play a fired up Rams team with getting to their best players back, man. I kind of called, I think that was kind of just, you know, the schedule kind of handed them that L. Yeah.
00:24:33
Speaker
We'll see what they do, though, man. It's definitely a little bit of a turning point now, man, because you have this charm start to the season. We've seen you get punched in the face, man. If they end up dropping three straight, I think I'm kind of fading on where I'm at with the Vikings. Yeah, I agree.
00:24:47
Speaker
Um, this is going to be the last time we mentioned this team on the podcast. The jets are dead. Dude, they, they thought they tried to do, uh, you know, what with Aaron Rogers, what the Lakers did when they brought in LeBron, dude, you bring in a guy.
00:25:04
Speaker
and let him basically just take over the organization man another thing with the brand new obviously he's a freak he's able to keep it going it basically the same level you know into yes he's not in the doors on the door is forties and they got a championship out of it man if you want to put an asterisk on when and you know the bubble championship you can but the end of the day they want a championship.
00:25:24
Speaker
with LeBron there. It seemed like the Jets did the same thing. They basically handed over the keys, man. Look how many of Aaron Rodgers friends are on the roster. You know, he's, his, his hand picked offensive coordinator is there. He, I don't care what anybody says. He ran the head coach out of there.
00:25:41
Speaker
and it's just a failure dude if there's I feel like the Titans are probably the worst overall situation in the league right now dude maybe you know you got the Titans and Panthers down there I think the Jets are right there with them dude they're maybe a half step above because I do think they've had some pretty good drafts you know to kind of help stop some of the bleeding but dude it is bad man the on field products bad the vibe seem horrible like
00:26:04
Speaker
It just does not look good. And like I said, I'm I really think that this is going to end up being the last season for Aaron Rodgers, man. I think he's out the league.
00:26:12
Speaker
Dude, here's my thing about this team. And yeah, I was way more on board with this team than you were. Obviously, like there's no denying that. I just- I think you still had him at like nine and eight. That was what you were thinking. Yeah. I think this was my biggest thing. I just thought if Rogers was average, this team would be good. He's not even- The defense was great last year, dude. That was, you know, Zach Wilson, obviously self-destructive once he got in there, man. But there was a, they won a few games with him in there, you know, like 15 to 14 and shit games like that.
00:26:40
Speaker
They beat the Eagles when the Eagles were undefeated. Like they looked like, uh, last year they looked like a team that was a quarterback away, man, but it's, uh, it's just not the case. Yeah. Their defense doesn't look good. Aaron Rogers doesn't even look average at this point. I did see a stat before that game started though. And this is fucking embarrassing. Aaron Rogers had 10 touchdown passes going into that game. He was the first quarterback since 2020 to throw for 10 touchdown passes in the season for the jets.
00:27:09
Speaker
Yikes, dude. That's embarrassing.
00:27:12
Speaker
That's horrible. It's been bad, dude. This is the curse of Joe Namath, man, ever since. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Oh, my goodness, dude. So we haven't really touched on it, man. We're watching the Monday Night Football game, Steelers and Giants. And it looks like Russell Wilson just coughed it up with four minutes left to go as the Steelers were trying to salt away the wind, dude. So now the Giants are getting it back, man. It's out. Yeah, it's definitely out. Russell Wilson's not even arguing with the refs, either. Oh, no, it's out. They punched it out. It's 100%. OK, yeah, I'm seeing a replay now. Yeah, that's definitely a fumble, then.
00:27:42
Speaker
Dude, here comes Danny dimes, bro. The peanut punch has really made a resurrection this season. I've seen people punch the ball out more this season than I think I've ever seen. Jesse Bates did it twice yesterday in the first quarter of that game. I was like, they have a button for it on Madden now, dude. That's how much of a factor it is.
Game Highlights and Coaching Decisions
00:28:02
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Yeah, that's crazy. But yeah, this could be a good ending here.
00:28:05
Speaker
But yeah, the Jets horribly just what a disaster think about how high the hype was last year the season opener when Aaron Rodgers came running out on 9-11 with the flag That's now a meme man for any time something's about to go bad quick That picture of Aaron Rodgers, that's how bad it's been
00:28:26
Speaker
It literally is basically Aaron Rodgers was the dumpster on fire. That was him running out on 9-11 last year. And that's what the organizations looked like since then as a dumpster fire. Yeah, man. They're not good. They're not good. Okay, let's move over to our favorite player on the NFL, James Winston. He did it. Jesus, dude. He did it, man. I don't even understand how this is possible.
00:28:51
Speaker
Dude, the football gods are funny, man. It's a real thing, dude. I think the football gods are a very real thing. I think we'll talk about it another game later on, dude. But nah, man, cannot be more happy for him, dude. It sucks that it happened this late in the season because at two and six, that's just a really, really deep hole to climb out of. And, you know, every game is not going to be like that one with James, man. The James experience, you're going to have some games where he goes out and tosses three picks, man, even though he's just slinging it, dude. That's what he does.
00:29:19
Speaker
for one day everything worked right man he got to hit the long touchdown pass to win it like uh i'm it was just awesome dude you love to see it man yeah james is awesome and that was a good win for the browns too and i'm not gonna read too much into it like dude it's any given yeah i mean but seriously though two of the ravens losses are to the browns and the raiders like how is that even possible this season i didn't
00:29:43
Speaker
I think the Browns are a lot better team than they've shown the Raiders one. I still think that's probably the most puzzling individual game result of the season so far, man. I don't know. I don't know how that happened. Okay. Let's move on to that. I wouldn't call this quality football, but one of the best settings you're going to get of the season, uh, bears commanders, dude, one of the most unreal plays that that even happened. Two things.
00:30:08
Speaker
the dumb ass on the bears that was celebrating in the middle of the play and mocking all the fans and stuff. That dude doesn't end up tipping it. He doesn't deserve to get to be able to give an apology. The dude should have been cut on site for doing that. That was embarrassing. Like his name, Stevenson, Tyreek Stevenson. Like I got, I got firsthand embarrassment watching that happen. And then I sent it to my bears friends and I was like, dude, are you kidding me? You should be cut for doing that. Like that's,
00:30:37
Speaker
I don't what the fuck was he thinking? The play was going on. I mean, I don't know, dude. I I saw what happened without I've seen some people actually broke down the X's and O's and say he should have been covering the guy that caught it. I didn't think it ended up being that big of a deal, man, because he ended up getting back to make a play on the ball. I think it was a little bit of just freaking bad luck, man. But he's still still horrible. He made a play on the ball. All right. Tipped it right to the guy.
00:31:06
Speaker
Yeah, I again dude we talked about the football gods man. I think that was the football gods, you know being spiteful man punishing dude This dude's making an ass of himself and I've never I've seen a helmet obviously we've seen how Mary's connect before but most times it looks more like It looks more like that Virginia Tech Miami game that we saw man where it's just something ugly and somehow like there he goes man coughing it up somehow
00:31:32
Speaker
Yeah, he's the man, dude. It ends up being something ugly and somehow, you know, a guy comes up with the ball. This was literally like if you saw it on a video game, you would say, oh, that was cheesy or tacky, man. Like it literally got tipped directly to a homeboy standing in the end zone, man. What a win. No, dude, that happens to me on Madden. My controller is going through the fucking TV. Like there's no, man, what a cheap win. No, my controller is going through the TV if that happens. Yeah. You would think the computer straight up cheated you the way the ball just went directly to him. So.
00:32:03
Speaker
I've been hesitant to buy into this commander's team just because I know how Dan Quinn is. He does the raw, raw thing. We've talked about this before. He can wear it in the NFL. He buys in the roster. Dude, this team seems different to me though. Yeah, they're good.
00:32:18
Speaker
Not to mention Jane Daniels is an absolute superstar. That dude's unreal. I don't like we don't even need to even finish the season. He's rookie of the year already. There's no question about it. I hope he stays healthy, man. I get so nervous every time he takes a hit, dude. He's just he's so slight, man. He said just a small frame guy. He
00:32:38
Speaker
really in the off season. He needs to work out and put on about 10, 15 pounds of muscle. Yeah. But then again, a lot of those guys, man, they put on too much muscle and it fucks with like their throwing motions. So maybe this just works for him. Slows him down half a step. Yeah, I'm with you, man. But he's just, dude, he takes some, he doesn't seem like he's really, you know how like you like never saw Peyton Manning really get like hit hard his whole career for the most part. I feel like I see Jaden Daniels take like two or three shots every single week.
00:33:03
Speaker
He'll get smart, dude. He's a rookie. Like rookies learn eventually. I mean, it's just part of it. Um, so as what I just said about the commanders, like that team is they're good. They actually might be for real.
00:33:17
Speaker
On the other side of the wall, dude, the bears defense is absolutely outstanding. Like they have an excellent defense. Their offense looks like absolute dog shit when they play anybody of any note, like Caleb Williams had 36 yards passing through three quarters.
00:33:36
Speaker
Like, I think he ended like 10 for 24 for what like 112 yards or something like that. Yeah. I mean, it looked better in the end, but he's, I mean, that's still a shitty stat line, but yeah, it was absolutely abysmal through three quarters. I I'm from watching him play, man. I do think he's going to end up being something in the pros, but it's not been a pretty rookie season, man. Everything
00:33:56
Speaker
From a, just a strictly a production standpoint, everything Jayden Daniels has been, uh, Caleb Williams hasn't been so far this year, man. And if the bears do end up making something out of the season, it's going to be off the back of that defense. Dude. The other thing I keep seeing is that the bears, somebody was talking about him training for miles Garrett.
00:34:13
Speaker
Your offensive line is absolute dog shit and can't block anybody. If you're trading for anybody, it better be some team that needs to get rid of an offensive lineman because your line cannot block at all. Yeah. I mean, even with that hail Mary, they held one of the best offenses in the NFC so far this season to.
00:34:30
Speaker
to 18 points yesterday, man. For all intents and purposes, they held them to 12 and then just gave up. You know, it was really impressive, but I'm still going to call it a little bit of a fluke there at the end. I mean, dude, I don't think the defense is the issue. The commanders had 481 yards in that game, though, like their offense moved the ball. They just always fizzled out when they got into the red zone or close to the red zone. So I'm not. Yeah, I get what you're saying, but it's just it's the Bears are a weird team, man, like.
00:34:58
Speaker
They look really good against the teams they should beat. And then the teams that it's a toss up or one you think they're going to lose. They just, I don't know, man, their offense for everything. Everyone said coming into this season about their offense and having all these weapons, like, dude, I'm just not seeing it at all. They can't block. They literally cannot block. And Matt Eberfloos is a fucking terrible head coach.
00:35:21
Speaker
I don't know if you saw it, but they handed the ball off to their backup center on the one yard line and he fumbled the ball going into the end zone. What the fuck are you doing, dude? You're losing. Like you don't run one of those plays when you're losing. That's something you do when you're up like 14 points and you're like, yeah, let's just, let's, let's try to get the big fellow touchdown. Cause Dan Quinn or Dan Campbell does that shit all the time, but it's usually when they're ahead. It's usually not when the games on the line.
00:35:46
Speaker
I I don't know what the hell they were thinking but I'm not a Matt you were Fleece believer and I I don't know I mean he was looking like a lock to get fired last season man, and then they ended up You know getting hot enough down the stretch that he kept his job in but uh, but yeah, I'm with you You don't think he's a great coach. No, that's all I got man All right. Let's do some college football predictions Oh
00:36:30
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And his old rap single must be the money
00:36:35
Speaker
All right. Uh, so kicking off first Saturday, 11 o'clock, the big noon kickoff on Fox number four, Ohio state travels to happy valley and face the number three Penn state. I think we get a classic big 10 slug fest, man, like a low scoring defensive game. I think Ohio state edges them out though. How States actually a three and a half point favorite going into this one, man. And I'm kind of with Vegas. I think the Buckeyes get the win.
00:36:59
Speaker
I do too. I hate that they keep doing this to Penn State though. Nobody wants Ohio State to play at a disadvantage because if this was a night game in Happy Valley, this is a completely different game to me. Playing at night in Happy Valley is completely different when they white out the stadium and stuff. I think Ohio State wins. I have not been that impressed with Penn State.
00:37:24
Speaker
I mean, really they're Indiana, but with pedigree, dude, if you look at their schedule, like they USC took them to double overtime and they be Illinois, which Illinois is a pretty tough team, man. I think they've had a relatively easy path as well. The difference between them and Indiana though, is Indiana is punishing teams like Penn State's like limping by teams.
00:37:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think Penn State's a little bit over. I think they're just a little bit like, you know, they're just the last man standing. That's it, dude. They're just so happy to be the, you know, one of the last few teams left undefeated. But I think Ohio State goes and puts a blemish on that record on Saturday.
00:38:01
Speaker
All right, the other one we got is, let me find here, Pitt and SMU. So I actually watched SMU and Duke on Saturday night.
Uniform Changes and Historic Winning Streaks
00:38:10
Speaker
That's so much of a degenerate. I'm getting beaten into college football, man. I'm staying up late night watching it. Dude, Duke should have beat them, man. Duke turned the ball over. I want to say like five times, dude. SMU did everything in their power to lose that game. So I think Pitt's going to go down there to Dallas. They're seven and a half point underdogs, man, but I think Pitt pulls off the upset and stays undefeated and beats SMU.
00:38:30
Speaker
I'm going to go SMU. I know what you're saying about the dude game and they did look bad in that game, but I just. Dude, how the hell are they a seven and a half point favorite? Like usually when Vegas is that far on another team.
00:38:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's a long trip for pit. It's probably gonna be pretty fucking pretty hot. They'd like I think it's gonna be a pretty significant home field advantage, man. But I guess I'm looking at pit schedule right now. I mean, they're undefeated, but it's not good. Yeah, it's not you know, it's not a murderer's row that they got going here that since an eddy team that you took a shit on earlier, they pit only beat them by one. Yeah, it's just I just don't know what to think about pit. I'm not saying SMUs like world beaters, but
00:39:13
Speaker
I just, I don't think pit is that good. I mean, dude, SMU lost to BYU by three points. That's their one loss of the year. And I don't know if you look, but he's pretty fucking good. It's pin the ACC. What conference is pinning? They're both in the ACC. No, both DC. Oh yeah. So I'm an idiot. They really need to go away from the, uh, the geographic, uh, conference names, man. It really throws you completely out the window.
00:39:39
Speaker
Yeah, so I'm an idiot, by the way to earlier I said, because I was used to SMU being in a non power five. So the only team the top 25 that's in a non power five is Boise State at this point, they're the only ones with a shot at Oh, I guess army to army and them are the only two. What's his Boise independent hour? What's Boise? They are in the Mountain West. So they'll be in the pack 12 in two years.
00:40:06
Speaker
When the pack 12 comes. Hey, speaking of that, I just, I meant to mention this last week, but I forgot and I just remembered it now. Cause I, we brought pack 12 Oregon state released their schedule for next year for their college football schedule. They're playing Washington state twice because those are technically the only two teams in the back 12. So they play Washington state like week six, and then they finished out the season with them in week 12.
00:40:32
Speaker
Yeah. We'll never see that again. That's college football at its finest, dude. Just nonsense. Play the same team twice in the regular season.
00:40:41
Speaker
Yeah, the the mess that the pack 12 that it's just dude there's so much history there I mean, I guess in the day it really doesn't fucking matter because it's a conference But dude, I just I grew up back like in the pre even it's going back like the pre BCS era dude The Rose Bowl was always a big deal dude the pig the big ten against the the pack 12 that was always such a big deal man I just feel like
00:41:03
Speaker
That tradition is just completely dead now, man. Well, yeah, I mean, especially when the big 10 took four of the Pac-12 best teams, if not their four best teams. I still got the, on my NCAA dynasty, I restored the Pac-12 to its full glory, man. So it's still alive and kicking in my world. You restored the order. Yeah. All right. Let's get to UniWatch.
00:41:45
Speaker
All right, we'll start with the team on the TV right now man Steelers rocking there I don't know if this is necessary a throwback or just like a color rush deal man, but the all-black unis He's always look pretty tough man. I'm a fan. Yeah, I like these a lot. These these actually look really good Do you think Danny Dimes has got a touchdown and a two-point conversion in him in this two-minute drill? I do not I
00:42:08
Speaker
But you're about remember, you're about eight seconds ahead of me, dude. So no spoilers. Got it. All right, let's go to college, man. We got a couple of black for black sakes jerseys, dude. We actually got three of those this week. We'll start off in college. Miami debut in their Miami nights uniforms. I thought these look nice. They're cool looking, but again, like why, dude? Like I just bring back like the O2, like Willis McGee, he can Dorsey throwbacks. Yeah, just mad to me. I mean, they're fine.
00:42:34
Speaker
They have such nice jerseys just their regular stuff. I believe it's a team that doesn't they don't need the alternate same thing with A&M They look cool. But like the A&M they're maroon and white man Like why why does A&M need black jerseys because they ain't doing this for me and you they're doing this for recruiting
00:42:49
Speaker
Yeah, I guess so, dude. It's just... It's Grootin' Brothers. Yeah, even, you know, Tennessee is bringing their black... They made a big job bringing their black jerseys back this week for that night game against Kentucky. Not a fan. Not a fan. Dude, I don't know why... If they want to wear dark jerseys, why not wear those beautiful smoky mountain variants that they had earlier this year? Why do you need those and an all-black jersey? You already have... Now, having said that, the commercial they did for those jerseys this weekend was sick.
00:43:17
Speaker
But outside of that, I hate these. I do not like Tennessee wearing all black. It's not Tennessee. They don't even need the Smokey Mountain. Tennessee, they're a team. They're like the Packers or like the Bears. They just have some of the most beautiful, unique baseline jerseys there is. They really never even have any alternates. But if they want to wear one, the Smokey Mountain ones were pretty cool, man. These are just, again, black for black sake, dude.
00:43:42
Speaker
Yeah. Notice how Nebraska, one of the most classic Jersey helmet combinations, the amount of times they wear alternates is, I mean, they hardly ever wear an alternate Jersey. Like they just go through, dude, there's some teams don't need them. Like I just, Tennessee does not need an alternate Jersey. I fucking stupid that they have to
00:44:02
Speaker
And I think part of the recruiting for them, dude, is Tennessee is one of those teams that you could be flipping through on a Saturday. You're immediately going to know it's Tennessee game comes on. You're going to look at it. You're not going to have to look down at the bottom of the scoreboard or the TV guide or anything. You're going to know exactly who that is on the field. Yeah. There's a lot of teams. You can't say that about them. Yeah. It's just there. There's no point to it at all to do these alternates of your Tennessee. Like I just, I liked their base unis.
00:44:25
Speaker
Yeah, so I think we're both same verdict on A&M in Miami. Look cool, but pointless, right? Not a fan. All right, the Bucks brought back the Cream Sickles. These are great, dude. Obviously, I think they're right for going with the pewter in red, like the Tony Dungy era look for like they brought that back as their baseline jersey when Tom Brady came to town.
00:44:46
Speaker
That's a great look had a lot more on field success and it's really really cool. So pretty unique man with the red and pewter But I love these as a one-off once a year, man These are just they're really really fun jerseys The team was so piss-poor when they were wearing these that I don't think you'll ever see these brought back on like a full-time basis But it's a fun throwback because dude, it was such a drastic departure like think about it, man But we were kids the bucks were like
00:45:10
Speaker
one of the like, just like straight up lame teams, right? You never had anybody that liked the Bucks. And then as soon as they switched to the pirate flag with the red and pewter, all of a sudden you had Tampa Bay fans coming out of the woodwork, dude.
00:45:20
Speaker
Yeah, dude, whenever they wear these, it just reminds me of them going winless. Like that's all I can ever picture when they wear these. And it hardly ever seems like they win when they actually wear the alternate. So yeah, maybe maybe trash those. Yeah, the red computer was sick when they went that day. Like any time I see those, I mean, we just think about like work done and Mike all stop being on the same team. Yeah. Danny Dime just threw a dime man. That was a nice one.
00:45:46
Speaker
All right, the Giants are driving. We got a minute and five to go there at the 50 or we're at four yard line. Yeah, we're at four. They're at the 47. Yeah. 47 got to get a touchdown there. Two point conversion, no time out. So that they, uh, the deck is stacked against Danny downs right now, but he's, he's matriculating the ball down the field. All right. The bangles rock the, uh, the white tiger.
00:46:07
Speaker
Some might say it looks more like a zebra. I like these, dude. I think it's pretty clean look, man. I'm always a fan of the all white jerseys. I know last season you weren't a fan of these. Did they grow over you in that? And did they grow on you in a year's time? They're better. I do like that. They do the white field as well. All the logos are white on the field. I do like that. But again, another team that I like their classic helmet and uni, like I don't, I don't think they need to do anything different.
00:46:34
Speaker
Alright, and lastly we had the the commies the commanders looking suspiciously like the Steelers look tonight Did you think the NFL because NFL has okay any of these alternates do you think they would have had them spaced out these? Uniforms because they look almost identical to have the Steelers look tonight with the they were rolling out there black and yellow jerseys as well. Yeah These are cool. Yeah, they're fine. Yeah, they're cool. Same. I don't think Washington's another team I don't need to see them anything other than the maroon and yellow but uh, but the jerseys did look cool, man They look good
00:47:04
Speaker
All right, let's get into our week nine picks.
00:47:23
Speaker
All right. Admittedly, I have been busy as hell today. I'm seeing these games for the first time, dude. So I'm going in raw on these men. We both went 10 and five last week going into the night, by the way. And we both have the same team. So so it's going to be a tie. Yep.
00:47:39
Speaker
All right, week nine, Thursday night, yuck.
Game Predictions and Team Evaluations
00:47:44
Speaker
Six and two Texans going into the two and six jets. That's another classic Thursday night stinker, man. It's probably the least watched game of the season, I'd say. Halloween night, man. This is definitely going to be a trick, not a treat. I think, oh, Danny Dimes, man. I was rooting for you, dog. I think the Texans win this one easily.
00:48:05
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I told you I'm completely off the Jets now, which means they'll win this week. The Jets are actually two-point favorites, dude.
00:48:15
Speaker
Wow. I don't know if it's just a short week, man. I think they're going to be in desperation mode. Maybe it's just a lot of love for Aaron Rodgers. I'm looking at the spread right now. The Jets are two point favorites against the Texans. I mean, the Texans did, I think they're a soft six and two, honestly, man. I mean, they're winning, so hats off to him, dude, but they have not looked that great, man. They need to get Nico Collins back. Their offense is not the same without him.
00:48:42
Speaker
Yeah, the Texans I mean they had a they're most they really haven't had an impressive window The only team they've blown out this year is the Patriots. So we'll clear run through it, dude So they beat the Colts twice by a combined five points. All right, that's across two games And we know what the Colts are this year beat the Bears by six. They got beat by the Vikings by 27 they beat the Jags by four they beat the Bills by three and
00:49:05
Speaker
They lost to the Packers man. I'd say that Bill's wins impressive dude. The bills look better. It was a tough team. Yeah, the bills are a tough team, but those ones are good. I still think that loss to the Packers wasn't bad. They played good enough in that game to win. I mean, shroud wasn't great, but they played well enough to win that game. Just lost on the last second field goal. It just is what it is. But yeah, I agree with you there. They're not playing how we all thought they would play.
00:49:30
Speaker
They have their six and two, their point differential for the season is plus nine right now. We can talk all the shit we want. They're six and two and your record says what you are. Like, dude, they're six and two and they have not played well. So if they start playing well, I mean,
00:49:46
Speaker
just a building block for the rest of the season for them. And we said that about CJ Stroud as well, dude. He's not the most impressive guy numbers wise, but he's got the winning magic, dude. He's got the clutch gene. So he's gonna lift them up in some of those close games, yeah. All right, two and five dolphins, two a back, didn't matter on Sunday, heading up to Buffalo. Tough spot, man, really tough spot. You'd love to see two get a win on these first ones bag, but dude, I think the dolphins are staring two and six in the crosshairs. I'm picking the bills, man.
00:50:13
Speaker
I'm going bills to I watched some of that dolphins game. Their defense is so fucking bad, dude. They just cannot get a stop when it matters. I thought to have played well enough for him to win. I think it's good. I think he'll even be better this week. But it feels like the NFL is caught up to to Mike McDaniel scheme a little bit though, man. It's not the same anymore. All right. So you're going bills as well.
00:50:40
Speaker
Interesting game and sneaky good Broncos team did playing good defense run the ball pretty well and that stuff travels heading into Baltimore to face a pissed-off Ravens team I think this line dude if I'm Sean Payton, I got something to fire my team out, dude They got the Ravens in his nine-point favorites, man. These teams got the same record, dude I don't know if the Ravens are covering man. I think they win I do not know if they're covering a nine-point spread though against this Broncos team, which is playing pretty decent man
00:51:04
Speaker
I still don't know how good Denver is though. They, they put up 28 against a terrible Panthers team on offense yesterday. I just, I still don't know. I don't think they're world beaters, but they're a solid team, dude. I think they're just as good as the Cleveland team that beat the Ravens on Sunday. I would agree with that. Well, I don't think the quarterback plays as good, but yeah, I would agree with that outside of that. I think James is better than Bo Nicks, but I'm going Baltimore as well. But I do think this game is going to be closer than that spread.
00:51:35
Speaker
Break up the Browns man. They were surgeon Cleveland Browns got the Chargers coming into town I mean, it's a good spot for James to go to and oh do do we think he can have a second straight game without turning the ball over? I don't know. I definitely wouldn't bet my house on it man Chargers have been solid but unimpressive so far I'm letting you go first on this today. That's it. This is a tough one to pick for me man It's stuff to like and stuff to dislike about both of these teams
00:52:01
Speaker
I think charges are two point favorite on the road. I think I'm gonna go Cleveland. I think James keeps it going at least one more week. Yeah, I think they'll keep the momentum going another week to the Browns were not playing horrible football. It's just Watson was just not good and like the games they were losing. They were losing because they couldn't score an offense like it.
00:52:21
Speaker
I don't know, man, I just, I, I refuse to believe the Browns were as bad as they were playing with Watson as a quarterback. And now you can tell they're fired up having James out there. They have no receivers and look what he did on against a great Ravens team. Like, I don't know what else there is to say. And like you just said, the chargers have not been impressive at all. I just, they're just kind of there.
00:52:44
Speaker
Did you see that play where Nate Shepard from the Saints tried to put a leg bar or heel hook on Justin Herbert? That lineman was about to kill that dude. I know. Justin Herbert being the great guy, he had actually pulled him off of him, dude. What was that Saints guy doing, man? Did he just crash out for a minute? Like, there's dirty plays that happened in the course of the game. I mean, that was, I don't know how the refs didn't, like, eject him, dude. I mean, you just answered your own question. It's a Saints player. That's all they do is dirty shit.
00:53:13
Speaker
That was horseshit dude, like it's one thing to I don't really mind somebody following through and putting a lick on the QB But you literally like rolling around and like Gator rolling on the yeah on the guy's knee dude when you know He's one of like the best young quarterbacks in the league. Like yeah, that's just it's an asshole to do that to anybody much less freak quarterback, man So he got he got everything deserved man. That was do you see Harbaugh gave that offensive lineman the game ball man? The one the freakin choke slam that he deserved it man. I
00:53:41
Speaker
Yeah. You love this. You look stuff like that lets me know that, um, you know, the team's heading in the right direction, man. I remember there was years where you'd see somebody take a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and like no Falcons lineman were like jumping up to like getting a grill, the guys and shit, man. So I don't know. I read in a lot on the culture of team when I see stuff like that happening. I agree. All right. Two and six say that game.
00:54:07
Speaker
I'm gonna go charge or stand. I love Jamis. We are, you know, if you listen to this, you already seen it, but we picked Jamis for the cover this week. We've been rooting for him to start all week, man. He's such just an awesome personality in the NFL, but I don't think he can do it two weeks, man. I think we get the other side of the coin. I'm gonna say right now, I think Jamis throws for 300 yards, two touchdowns, and three picks, man. I think that's the kind of stat line we're looking at on Sunday, dude.
00:54:35
Speaker
The worst thing is, is it would not surprise me at all if that's actually what he did. It would not. I think he's going to be tossing it all over the yard to both teams, dude. I fucking love James, dude. He's like the greatest person ever. Me too, dude. Dude, you need a quarterback like that, man. I don't want all these freaking ice cold robots, dude, that are just all about the efficiency, man. Like, dude, give me some straight up gunslingers, man. There's a white boy up in Detroit.
00:55:03
Speaker
Dude, they just flashed a stat up on them. You know, the Steelers didn't end up putting the, the finish touches on. They, they posted a stat up. The Steelers haven't lost in Pittsburgh, a Monday night football since 1991, dude. Oh my God.
00:55:18
Speaker
22 straight home wins on Monday night football. That is nuts, man. I turned on basketball. Also, we have to mention today's the sports equinox day. Every four of the, uh, major sports are playing today. So NHL had games day, NBA games were today, world series game was today and NFL game was today. Who won game three of the world series? Uh, it's four zero Dodgers going to the bottom of the ninth.
00:55:46
Speaker
All right Toilet Bowl man Saints at Panthers. I think the Panthers went man. I think the Panthers have been playing a little bit better This is dude. It's just a shit fest man. Like there's absolutely no Predicting this one Saints have lost six straight the Panthers are the Panthers but it's in Carolina You know, it's a chance we could get any Dalton back dude
00:56:08
Speaker
I think they cannot bench Bryce Young again, dude. They have to play him the rest of the season now. You bench that dude twice. His everything he has is gone. Yeah, he may be right. I think Carr is playing this week, too, for the Saints, if that changes anything.
00:56:24
Speaker
No, I think young actually looked functional on Sunday. Also, he went 24 for 37 for 200 yards and two touchdowns. He did have two picks, but like I said, he was able to move the ball somewhat on offense. Yeah, they cannot bench him again, dude. I go Panthers, man. I think the Panthers just suck slightly less. I'm going to go New Orleans. Not that I think the video team is good.
00:56:45
Speaker
Raiders and Bengals in Cincy. Jordan is completely off the Bengals this year. I'm staying on. I'm not abandoning ship, dude. I still say the Bengals are the single greatest threat to end the Chiefs reign over the NFC man. And I think they're going to go on a run. I think it starts this week, man. They beat the Raiders.
00:57:01
Speaker
They get to four and five. It's been an absolutely horrible start. But as bad as it's been at the end of season, if you look up, you're like, we're one game below 500. I think you can live with that, man. And you can get it cooking over the second half. The defense has been atrocious. You got to shore up a ton of stuff, man. But I still believe in the coaching staff there, man. And I think Burrow's good enough that he's going to lift that whole team up. And we're going to see the Bengals going to run this year. I'm not bailing on it. I'm going Bengals this week, but I'm out on this team. Their defense is so bad that
00:57:31
Speaker
I cannot just keep going at this pace with this team. They better win this week because the Eagles just made them look like shit on Sunday. That was an embarrassing performance from the Bengals on Sunday. I agree. It was bad. We get a good solid fork in the road here, man, that we can argue about. We're going to be arguing about this. You'll be able to clown me about this for the rest of the season, man.
00:57:55
Speaker
I'm doubling down on my pick for the Bengals to win the AFC. I don't know. It doesn't make much sense right now, but come January, you're going to be like, God damn, Seth is a genius. Well, they're going to have to break their home losing streak this weekend too, because they're 0-4 at home this year. If they lose to the Raiders at home, we can stick a fork in it. It's done at that point. I may waver a little bit, man. My knees might get a little bit wobbly if they end up losing to the Raiders. I would hope so, because they got the Ravens at Baltimore next Thursday night after that.
00:58:24
Speaker
Commanders at Giants man. I feel like this could be a little bit of a trap game dude Giants coming off a heartbreaking loss commanders coming off a super emotional win Up in New York I think the command you know DQ needs to get them up for this one man because this could definitely be a letdown game and I think the Giants have shown enough scrappiness so they could sneak up and and Steal one from a good team this year that being said I do think the commanders managed to keep it rolling man and get to seven and two Seven and two
00:58:51
Speaker
Lord. Yeah, I'm going to saw that coming. I'm going Washington as well. Cowboys and Falcons in Atlanta. Dude, I am going to throw something through my tee. I'm not even a Falcons fan anymore. I'm going to throw something through my TV. If the Falcons blow this, the Cowboys should not be three and 40. They're one of the worst three and four teams I've seen, man. This team is soft as Charmin tissue, like
00:59:13
Speaker
I think the Cowboys are very, very, very bad, man. I think they could end up being like a five win team this season. You know how I feel about the Falcons though, dude. They could totally go out there and get beat, man, but I really hope they don't, man. I hope they go out and handle business. I don't just want to win. I want the Falcons to kick their ass. Start to get some more home field advantage going, man. Let's take it to these Cowboys. You put them in their place, man.
00:59:37
Speaker
The only thing that makes me really nervous about this game is I feel like Michael Parsons is going to come back for this game. I don't like that for the Falcons, but I'm going seems like the kind of guy that could give Kirk Cousins fits. Yeah, I'm going to QB fits really. I'm going to Atlanta just because I feel like they're playing. They're the better team right now. They're playing at a higher level right now, but I mean, this one can go either way. Yeah. Patriots and Titans in Nashville are fighting toilet bowl.
01:00:05
Speaker
That's another bad one, dude. Titans are three point favorites. Do we know if Drake may is playing yet? I know he left with a concussion or possible concussion yesterday. I mean, dude, if you're the Patriots, you slow this as much as possible. You do not put him back out there after you just got a concussion. Like, I feel like we're seeing Bruce at this weekend. Yeah, I agree, man. I
01:00:29
Speaker
It'd be a lot more exciting if Drake May was playing. I don't think it really matters though, dude. I think the Patriots win this one going away, man. I don't know how the Titans are favors, dude. I don't know how anybody would pick the Titans over anybody at this point, man. I'm not picking the Titans, but dude, New England's not good either, but yeah. The Titans are fucking awful, dude.
01:00:52
Speaker
I thought New England's been, I mean, they have very, very low talent level. I thought they played pretty well though, weekend and weekend. Gerard Mayo's doing a good job with that team. Yeah. I think they're playing pretty good. For what their level is, I think they're playing pretty good football, man. I would agree.
01:01:08
Speaker
This is gonna be a good one, dude. Bears and Cardinals in Arizona, man. Cardinals are only a one point favorite. Dude, when you watch the Cardinals, man, it feels like they should be better than four and four, dude. Like, Kyler Murray's been really great this year. Like, Marvin Harrison Jr's been pretty dang good, man. Like, they've been an exciting team to watch, dude. They just, it seems like they just can't find a way to win. Kyler Murray so far this year, 11 touchdowns against three interceptions, man. Yeah, I'm a fan of this Cardinals team. I think they get the win to get above 500.
01:01:39
Speaker
It's in Arizona. If that counts for anything, it's probably, it's probably a shitload of bears fans are going to be there. They need to, because they're going to get beat up so much in the division. They got any winnable, any half ass winnable game outside the division is damn near a must win for them. If they have any type of playoff aspirations, dude, if the bears lose this game and they're four and four going into the end of their schedule,
01:02:05
Speaker
Yikes. I'm going to say the bears win just cause I, I, I don't think they can afford to lose this game. All right. Uh, Jaguars and Eagles and Philly, Philly's a seven and a half point favorite. If they were 17 and a half point favorite, I'd still pick them to cover the spread. I think the Eagles role, man. And yeah, it would almost be poetic, dude. The Eagles go out and hang a 40 burger on and maybe this ends up being Doug Peterson's last stand in Philadelphia. Dude, the Eagles are starting to put it together offensively. Like,
01:02:32
Speaker
I still think they got the best 53 man roster in the league, dude. I would, I would say if, you know, if take all the jerseys off, just give me all the group, show me all the rosters, dude. I think I'm probably taking the Eagles, man. If you can tell me I can pick anyone I want. They're, they're getting smart. They're starting to lean on say Quan, they're letting Jalen hurts, do more play action and it's working. AJ Brown's still a beast, man. I feel like every time I see the Eagles come on red zone, I'm expecting AZ, AJ Brown to just make some incredible freaking touchdown. Dude, since their bye week, I'm pretty sure Hertz does not have a turnover.
01:03:01
Speaker
He's been great since they're playing really, really good right now. Yeah, he has no turnover since they're by week. So yeah, they just need to keep doing what they're doing. It doesn't always have to look beautiful or pretty just hand the ball off to say quantum play off of him like that. That's what this team was designed to do. You don't need Jalen hurts doesn't need to throw for 300 yards a game.
01:03:23
Speaker
Alright really really good game and I don't know they must have I'm thinking Fox had to a cock block this from getting flex, you know I know the the Fox and CBS are allowed some protections like basically like expansion draft style They can pick some games that absolutely can't get flexed man lines and Packers in Lambo D 3 o'clock kickoff like let's
01:03:43
Speaker
Let's go dude. This is what football is all about man. Six and one lions going to green Bay against the six and two Packers. This game is going to be a ton of fun, dude. I think the lions get it
Lions' Journey and Super Bowl Aspirations
01:03:54
Speaker
done, man. They're three and a half point favorites. And I think that's accurate, dude. I think it's going to come. I think it's going to look similar to that, uh, that Vikings lions game. It could go either way, but I think that the lions are going to make just, you know, a couple more plays more than the Packers and ended up sneaking out of Lambo with a, with a close win.
01:04:09
Speaker
So I think I read this that if Fox deems Fox or CBS deems, whatever game it is, their game of the week, they can't flex it. Clearly this was going to be their game of the week. Four weeks ago, we knew this was going to be awesome. This is the game Brady's calling. I agree with you. I think the lions just keep rolling, dude.
01:04:29
Speaker
I, I, we obviously know I, I really liked this team and I like Campbell a lot. The word glazing has been used. Dude, I like, are we watching the same fucking thing? Dude, they just know the new thing. I did inject like the post game, Dan Campbell, like talks in the locker room, inject that stuff right into my veins, but I've watched it the last few weeks, dude. And it's great. He, the special teams coach and the punt returner got the game balls.
01:04:54
Speaker
last thing, dude, the special teams coach was fucking awesome. I never even heard that before. And yeah, he was so fired up though, dude. And then you could just see the respect and the reverence he has for Dan Campbell. Like, yeah, they got something special in man. Green Bay's had a great season too, dude. It could have got bad for green Bay big time losing Jordan love those first couple of weeks, man, but they weathered that storm and I've been impressed with them also, you know, there's, they're my pick to come out of the NFC. So I like both these teams a lot, but I think that, uh,
01:05:22
Speaker
I think the Lions go in and handle their business on Sunday against a pretty good Packers team. They seem like they're on a mission, dude. They just, the way they play football, they just, they look like they're on a mission, dude. It's almost like Dan Campbell listened to everything everyone said in the off season. And he's like,
01:05:38
Speaker
You know what? Fuck it. I'm doubling down on what I do. And I'm going to make it look even better next year. And dude, the fact that they convinced didn't even need to convince Ben Johnson to come back. That dude could have got any open job in the NFL this offseason. Whatever job he wanted, he was getting it. And he turned them all down to go back to Detroit because he felt like they had unfinished business. They're going to finish it this year, dude.
01:06:02
Speaker
There's no freakin loaded man. I saw I saw a meme yesterday. It said if either it said Either David Montgomery or Jamir Gibbs would be 2006 LeDangian Tomlinson if only the other one didn't exist man Like the only reason that those guys aren't like MVP candidates is because they're both happen to be in the same backfield man. I
01:06:21
Speaker
They lost Jamison Williams for two weeks. Couldn't tell this week. They lost Hutchinson. You can't even fucking tell like, dude, who else can lose players like this and just keep playing the exact same way? This team's completely blown in there. They just completely bought into what Dan Campbell does. And yeah, I'm not through eight weeks. There is nothing that tells me that this team is not going to the Super Bowl. I know it's Detroit, but
01:06:47
Speaker
They're so good, dude. And they play, they just play fundamental football too, man. I think they're still going to end up breaking everybody's hearts in January. I'm not saying they're, I'm not going to say they're not going to break people's hearts, but I think if they break it in the super bowl, I seriously think they get there. I just, I'm not saying they win, but I think they get there. I'll go ahead and give my way too specific prediction right now. I think the Packers go into Detroit and beat the lions in the NFC championship, man. And since you're going to just see Eminem and
01:07:15
Speaker
you know, everybody else, all the other Detroit royalty walking out of there with tears in their eyes, man, is they get their hearts broke a little more time. And I think it's going to be, however bad it was last year against the Niners, I think it's going to be even worse, dude. It's going to be some, you know, Dan Campbell fourth down call or a missed field goal at Doyksoff. I think I just see it happening in the most heartbreaking, heartbreaking fashion possible, dude.
01:07:37
Speaker
I'm not saying that's not possible. But I think if they do get home field, I just I don't think it's gonna have I do not think they're losing that Cowboys game completely fucked them last year because I think if they play the Niners in Detroit, I think that game ends differently.
01:07:53
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, definitely man because they seem like they wouldn't have uh, you know, the niners got so much momentum going there Yeah, you're probably right. All right, big nfc west matchup. Also, man We got some fun game with two fun games in the afternoon window, man Do we only have now we got three we actually got four games. So we got bear It's pretty good afternoon slate bears and cardinals should be pretty good Jags and eagles is gonna suck but we got lions and packers and then the rams and seahawks in seattle, man like
01:08:16
Speaker
Rams should win this one, dude, but, you know, dude, Seattle's no pushover, man. They've been, they've been pretty solid, dude, a little up and down, but still a tough team. And this is going to be for, uh, for first place in the NFC West. Cause did, you know, the Niners showed a little spark on Sunday night, man. So I think, you know, I think both these teams try still see the Niners kind of creeping up, uh, there in the rear view mirror, man.
01:08:38
Speaker
I think I'm going to go Rams though, man. I think the Rams keep it going for at least another week, dude. Hopefully, you know, they got a lot of very injury prone guys, but I think they stay healthy one more week and they go up to Seattle and get the dub. I'm going Rams as well. Um, DK's got a hyper extended knee and Seattle does not look the same when he doesn't play. They need him on that offense. Tyler Lockett's a good player. He's fine. Um, I like JSN a lot. I think he's going to be really, really good, but
01:09:06
Speaker
and Kenneth Walker's a stud, but I mean, it's just not the same team without DK. And I just, I feel like the Rams are just going to start rolling. All right. I still have no idea how this game didn't get flexed out. Even if this game got flexed in, that's nuts. This was not the Sunday night game. This got what was it? What was it? Do we know what was the original Sunday night game? Hold on. I'll tell you right now.
01:09:30
Speaker
I want to talk about it. We got the Colts and Vikings, man. I think Vikings win by 30, dude. This Colts team is somehow four and four. I've seen these guys with my own two eyes. This is not a good football team, man. They're closer to two and six than they are to four and four. It's not a good team at all, man. We saw Anthony Richardson actually take a play off for being tired. I've been watching football for 30 plus years. I've never once heard of a QB taking off a play for being tired. That just tells me that there's just a weird vibe on this guy, because that's just not
01:10:00
Speaker
That's not quarterback behavior, dude I mean like I know you don't like Patrick Mahomes you but what would happen that won't have to happen to Patrick Mahomes for him to like I willingly take a playoff Tom Brady, you know taking a playoff that was embarrassed. Yeah, they flexed out Eagles Jaguars out of Sunday Night Football Okay. Yeah, I guess I guess this gives marginally better if you look at the records I'm going Minnesota as well. Like I just
01:10:28
Speaker
this Colts team is not good, man. Anthony Richardson looks like one of the worst quarterbacks I've ever seen in my life. He cannot complete a short pass, save his life. He's he's dude. We have a group check going with our, with our buddy Hawk. And I jokingly said Anthony Richardson was going to go like 12 for 13 for 29 for 170 or nailed it. I almost fucking hate it. You had 175 yards and he was 10 for like 29. And I was like, Holy, didn't he start off, I think he started off like two and 13 or something like that. And he's like, he's not
01:10:58
Speaker
good. Yeah, it's bad dude. All right. Monday night,
Chiefs' Undefeated Potential and Betting Strategies
01:11:03
Speaker
we've got a scrappy bucks team four and four heading into Casey. Are you actually going to bring yourself to root for the chiefs, man? Or are you still going to root for the bucks to get the win? Cause you hate, this is like two of your most hated teams along with the Niners, man. Like what are you doing here from a rooting standpoint?
01:11:17
Speaker
Well, I want the Bucks to lose because I need the Bucks to keep losing at this point. Yeah, I would like to win that division. So I get that from a pragmatic stance. I just didn't know if your emotional hate for the Chiefs would keep you from doing. Here's my thing. Like I'm watching this team play and like
01:11:35
Speaker
I don't know why, but I don't feel like as hateful towards this team this season. I don't, I don't know what it is. Like I obviously want them to lose, but I don't feel as hateful towards them right now. I don't know why. And especially now that they're the only undefeated team left. I don't know. They're just, they're a weird team this year. Like when I watch them play,
01:11:54
Speaker
They are always, they're always, they do win. Yeah. And they are. They do. All they do is win, but they're always one play away from the other team winning too. It's wild. Like they're not blowing anybody out. I mean, the Raiders stayed in that game, which I don't know. I don't, I don't know.
01:12:14
Speaker
dude the chiefs are picking the chiefs to win this one they're gonna get to eight no man like dude they're on a death march dude look at their schedule dude look at i mean dude they're gonna be basically they're gonna be two games up on everybody else man like dude they may they may fuck around and go undefeated man but i think they're definitely like they're getting close to freaking just nailing down that number one seed man to where like
01:12:38
Speaker
one, either they can go for, you know, really have the date with destiny, dude, and go for 17 to know on the three-piece season, or maybe they get to shut it down the last two freaking weeks of the regular season and be fully rested, ready to go. When Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes just get in the lab and cook some stuff up, man, like,
01:12:56
Speaker
I think they're going to end up having like a pretty, you know, they're going to have to win two games in Arrowhead and they'll be back in the Superbowl playing for their third straight, man. It's nuts how this is played out for the Chiefs. When I would say this is probably the weakest team of the, I don't know, last season looked pretty bad. The first half man is between this season and last season are definitely the two weakest of the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs teams, man. No, this is worse. Dude, Mahomes has thrown a pick in
01:13:20
Speaker
every single game he's played in this season. This team is definitely worse than last season. That's nuts, dude. That's so weird, because he's never been an interception thrower like that, man. Dude, he has eight touchdowns to nine picks this season. And the other thing is, last year, even when the offense was struggling the first half, the defense was still just smothering people. And the defense has been pretty decent this year, but it hasn't been overwhelming like it was last season. Yeah, you're right, man. It's crazy that they're 7-0.
01:13:48
Speaker
they got a pretty soft schedule man like they get it they do get everybody's best shot so maybe that's part of the reason why maybe they haven't looked as impressive but you know it's been a relatively soft schedule so far and yeah you're looking at they got the in two weeks they play the bills in Buffalo and then they got the Texans coming to town December 21st man like
01:14:08
Speaker
I don't know, dude, it's pretty, pretty relatively easy schedule, man. Like I could, I'll be shocked if they're not 13 and 40 and Steelers game on Christmas is going to be a tough one. Yeah, that's going to be tough for them, dude. That's going to be a tough one, man. But even then dude, like they're close, like I said, man, I think worst case scenario, these guys are 13 and four, dude. I don't think any other AFC team is going to touch that, man.
01:14:31
Speaker
their close to the season is going to be tough, like going to Cleveland, then Houston at home, then at Pittsburgh and at Denver. That is not an easy defense is down the stretch. Yeah. But like I said, the number one seed, Mary to be wrapped up when they go to that Steelers game Christmas, man, they may, they may have a, that may be a Christmas party of a game for them, man.
01:14:51
Speaker
It's gonna be interesting, man. But yeah, I just like I'm watching this team and it's just doesn't look impressive. But in the day, you said it earlier, dude, and we've always said it on the show. Yeah, you are what your record says you are, man. They're seven and freaking out. And that's, that's been the one thing that we really saw it, you know, late into the 2022 and especially last season, man, the team just got a belief that they got the Brady thing with the Patriots that
01:15:14
Speaker
They just feel like they're going to win, man, and the fourth quarter. It seems like the brakes always freaking go the chief's way when it gets to the fourth quarter. This is my thing about this team, too, is like this is the one thing about like if the Lions would get to the Super Bowl.
01:15:29
Speaker
that team has just like a not giving a fuck mentality that they don't care who's on the other side of the field. To me, that's the perfect team to play the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Because they don't care like they don't do not intimidated. They do not care who's on the other side of the field. Like they literally are just going to play their football and whatever happens happens at that point. So yeah, yeah, I just
01:15:51
Speaker
I agree with you. It's, it's wild that we're watching the chiefs play like this. Cause I mean, it has not looked good a lot of times like that. They have not looked good on offense. A lot of this, they've had like quarters or, you know, halves here and there. I look pretty good, but yeah, dude, it's, they, they haven't played. That's also kind of the scary thing is that they're seven to know. And I feel like we haven't seen close to their best game yet. I agree. Yeah. All right. Let's get to me and dollar bets.
01:16:33
Speaker
All right, we did not cover ourselves in glory last week, man. We both lost all four bets. So I had a five team against the spread, or a four team against the spread parlay with the Lions, Packers, Chiefs and Bears. Lost 25,000 on that. And then I had Texans against the spread. Obviously, they let me down, letting the
01:16:33
Speaker
Okay, okay
01:16:51
Speaker
letting the Colts hang around as long as they did. Uh, Jordan had a parlay with a couple overs and he lost a hundred thousand on and then had a 14 parlay with the lions Packers chiefs and jets, 150,000. He lost. The big news is that after being down by over half a million dollars earlier this season, I've come all the way back to not just take the lead. I'm up almost 200,000 on Jordan at this point, man. So hey,
01:17:13
Speaker
It's a, it's not a sprint. It's a marathon, man. As we approach halfway point, I'm back on top, but Jordan's got some big money bets this week. I'm going to go first, man. I played it a little bit more conservative, man. Just trying to hopefully get back on the green side of things. Cause dude, you realize I had a stretch where I actually hit five consecutive bets, man, at one point this season.
01:17:31
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I so starting off man three team parlay money line bangles bills ravens not the uh Not the sexiest out there. But hey, dude, I think it's going to be some solid money thrown down seventy five thousand to one one hundred and fifty five thousand. Okay
01:17:48
Speaker
My first one, I'm just going to go Commander's Moneyline. These bets have not been fruitful this year, David, when we've been laying down heavy chatter on the Moneyline. Tell them what you're putting down on this one. I'm going $200,000 on the Commander's just to win. It'll win $314,285. It seems like a smart play because you're literally just betting on one thing, one thing that's likely to happen. But like I said, it's not been fruitful when we've gone the big Moneyline bets, man.
01:18:17
Speaker
And I think it's a sneaky game, dude. Jane Daniel still not close to a hundred percent coming off a miracle win against the team that's going to be pissed off from last on Monday night, man. I feel like this one's got heartbreak written all over it, but we'll see, man. My second one, I'm taking the Pat's money line, dude, the emotional hedge, man. I think the tight, you know, if the Titans end up winning, I'll be happy to actually be a little bit sad, man, just because at this point I kind of want to get a high draft pick, dude.
01:18:42
Speaker
I think the Pats win man. I was surprised that you know, the Titans are favorites on this one day This is a twenty five thousand on the Pats money line pays out sixty thousand five hundred All right. My second one. I'm gonna go back to the old overs parlay If this one hits dude, I got a holding. I got a one over hole to climb out of man I got bangles Raiders over forty five and a half. I
01:19:04
Speaker
I got Cowboys Falcons over 52. Then I got lions Packers over 47 and a half. I'm laying a hundred thousand dollars on this to win $714,362. I like that input to output there, man, but did Vegas just as such a freaking good job of dialing in that over under number, man, it's hitting three of those bets on the same side. Then it was like,
01:19:28
Speaker
It's tough. It's basically, it's the same as when like three coin tosses in a row to me, man. I'm just playing like the odds on this one. Like the Raiders and Bengals defenses are so bad. I think the bangles are going to score enough points and I still think the Raiders are going to score. Not worried about that one. The Falcons are in high scoring games every week. So not worried about that. And then shit, the lions might be able to cover over 47 on their own, the way they're playing. Like I just,
01:19:51
Speaker
I, this one to me, like I looked at this all day yesterday for this week. I just, I don't know. I think this one's going to hit. I feel you,
Football Fundamentals and Player Futures
01:20:01
Speaker
man. And you're smart on these dates. So I'm definitely never seen it, man. Like I said, I'm already planning what big bets I'm throwing down. I'm already planning what big bets I'm throwing down next week to start making up some ground. Cause I got a feeling I may be, I may be trailing after this one, man. All right. You ready to hit some listener mail?
01:20:18
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Alright so first off we'll go via text message first and most importantly, we got from the your beautiful wife Ari man got a question from your daughter Zoe man just can you please please explain football to me, because I do not know what happens most of the time so when I am watching it, I can understand so for me dude.
01:20:36
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I think if I'm showing to a kid the way I got Brett to where he'll sit down and watch a game with me, man. I think you got to start and Zoe may actually be past this already. I'm pretty sure she's kind of just asking this tongue in cheek, man. But I just start off with the downstage four downs to gain 10 yards, man. And it's super easy with the TV presentation nowadays. Cause you just say, Hey, they got, they got four tries to get it across this yellow line. And if they don't get it on the fourth try, they can either go for it or they can kick it to the other team to give them
01:21:02
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them a chance man. So I think just start with that and then maybe, you know, focus on the difference between running the ball and passing the ball. If I was, if I was a parrot trying to get my kid into it, that would be the first mechanics I would show you just the four, 10 yards for a first down and you got four plays to do it.
01:21:16
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So we've already had this conversation prior to this, me and Zoe have, she just doesn't get the whole four downs thing. Just is not, not making sense to her at all. So, um, but yeah, and usually she doesn't want to sit out in the living room and watch it either with me. So, which I don't blame her because I'm usually yelling at the TV the whole time.
01:21:34
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yeah you get pretty intense dude i mean you haven't even seen intense like the motherfucker the game you saw was uh less than intense like i was on elation on that one like it turned into intense but it shouldn't have been
01:21:52
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All right, our buddy James Maudsley, he's at the Tampa Bay Lightning game tonight. He sent us this one. He said for his upset special, he thinks Louisville will beat Clemson. I could see that, dude. I could totally see Louisville beating them. First question, should Aaron Rodgers retire or go to Minnesota next like Brett Favre?
01:22:09
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I think if he would have found a way to worm his way out of the jet steel, uh, last, after last season, even with the torn Achilles, I think the Vikings would have been in play and it would have been just poetic man to see him go to the Vikings to complete the far, you know, storyline. Um, but after as bad as it's been this year, dude, I don't think anybody's touching Aaron Rodgers with a 10 foot pole.
01:22:29
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Not even remotely worth touching. Maybe the Raiders did maybe I guess maybe see the Raiders doing it But even then they're probably you know, they got Brady in the ownership now He's probably like no like I'll come out and play quarterback before we go out and get this guy I think he's still probably one of the 32 best quarterbacks in the world right now But just the overall the whole deal with him just seems toxic right now, man. I feel like his
01:22:52
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his leadership. I don't know if he was ever truly like a great leader, like a Brady or like a Peyton Manning, but I feel like at this point, whatever, whatever was there has completely gone off the cliff. And I just, I think for me, obviously we only know what we see, um, what's presented us on TV, but I got a feeling a lot of this dude's teammates, but I think he's a fucking asshole. I mean, his family hates him. So why wouldn't his teammates
01:23:16
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All right, let me pull up the the rest of the mailbag man All right. So first off we got a question from a buddy Sam Rosenthal. Why do you think teams were foot refused to run so much lately?
NFL Trends and Management Critiques
01:23:28
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It's crazy to me see a running back have 10 cares for 50 yards and then just not get the ball anymore Even if it's a close game
01:23:35
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That's a great question. Absolutely great question. And I asked myself this question every week as I watch Bijon stand on the sideline while we're leading and they're running Tyler Algier into the back of the center. So we were talking about this earlier. I don't get it. Everybody's just so throw happy in the NFL now that they don't even try to run the ball. It's, it's crazy, man. The devaluing of running backs is absolutely wild in the NFL right now.
01:24:01
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Yeah, to me, I blame it on analytics, man. I think that if you really do the math on it, you're going to end up getting more yards. You're going to end up getting more yards per pass play than you are per run play. And I feel like if teams just don't feel like they have a true advantage in the run game, they're just much more apt to just totally abandon it and go basically running just absolutely enough to keep the other team honest, man. Yeah, that makes sense.
01:24:32
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All right. I also wants to know where kickers kick are struggling so much this season. I have noticed, dude, it's the, it seems like the 50 plus yard has been a lot less of a sure thing. This is so far this year, Justin Tucker, he used to be close to one of the most automatic things in all the sports. Dude, he has really been struggling this season on the longer kicks. I think it's just a one off though, dude, kicking's kind of, you know, kind of random in a lot of ways, man. I think that's just, it's just been a bad year. I don't, I don't think there's any, you know, I don't got any big conspiracy theory for why
01:25:01
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why we've seen field kicker struggle a bit more this year than in years past. Kickers are weirdos, dude. That's just, that's all there is to it. Kickers are just weirdos and they, they have moments where they're going to absolutely bring your team to the highest of highs and they're going to have times where they're going to bring your team to the lowest of lows. It's just the beauty of a kicker in the NFL anymore.
01:25:22
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Zach Hertzer says, why is Dak Prescott so terrible? To me, I think Dak's just been miscast as like a straight up franchise quarterback. And I guess mispaid at this point also, cause he's grabbed some pretty big bags during his time with the Cowboys. I think he's always been, you know, a good, not great quarterback, dude. He had that one year where the year when he broke his leg, dude, I think he was on pace to put up some gigantic numbers, man was playing, that was probably his best season besides his rookie year.
01:25:48
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I think he's kind of says what he is, man. He's good, not great, dude. See, I think that there's been a lot of just kind of crumble on that roster around him this year, dude. Like you see the guys, they got it running back, man. You know, I didn't think it'd be that big a deal letting Tony Pollard go, but that's been a huge drop off. CD lamb and Nate Ferguson are really the only two. Jake Ferguson.
01:26:08
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Jake Ferguson, yeah, really the only two reliable targets he's got on on offense. It's just, I think he's supporting cast is a little bit weaker than it's been in years past. Yeah, I don't think I don't think it's necessarily all on him either. I agree with you. His supporting cast is garbage. Jerry Jones fucking sucks, dude. He needs to get out of out of the way because
01:26:28
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him making all the decisions by day. It's killing this team, dude. I mean, it's, it's the Al Davis theory. Like all Al Davis wanted to do was draft fast people in the first round. It was killing the team. It's just, dude, this is not 1985. Like you have to adapt to the NFL now and he's not. And the other problem for the Cowboys, man, they just paid CD and Dak. Now they got to pay Michael Parsons. Like this team is about to be in cap hell forever. Like I just,
01:26:57
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They got us they got a Stars and Scroggs roster man You got you got a handful of really high-end really really good players and then there's nothing in between back and about man It's just it's kind of crazy because I felt like
01:27:12
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two years ago, man, that team that lost the year to, uh, to the Niners when Dak Prescott slid and the clock ran out on them. I felt like that was a really, really strong team that year, man. Like they had a chance to really go on a run last year. I wasn't really as impressed with the man. Like I was still surprised that the Packers straight up tearing their ass out the frame in the playoffs, but I didn't think the Cowboys really as good as their regular season looked last year, but that the year before that, man, I thought they were really, really strong team.
01:27:38
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And it just didn't work out for him, dude. I still think going way back, man, obviously it's a totally different team now. That 2014 team, they got robbed at Lambo when Des Bryant had that touchdown catch. That was a team that probably should have made it to a Super Bowl, man. That was a really, really good Cowboys team and probably the best that they had during the Tony Romo era. Yeah, that team was really good.
01:27:59
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Yeah, it's been it's been bad, dude. I mean dude, there's we're at the point now man that there's entire an entire grown-ass Generation of sports fans that have never seen the Cowboys make a conference championship game 96 was the last time they made it use we're going on 28 years since they've been in the final four of The NFL that's insane
01:28:17
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Yeah, it's very very bad I Should draw may have been straight made for a while due to concussion concerns and save his career This is from our buddy Johnny GB. He says our offensive line is terrible and I'm afraid he'll get whacked in the head again He's the future for New England. I think they should preserve him Yeah I was in favor of not even playing him at all dude this year because I think that team's so bad that I think you're gonna end up getting a little bit of like mental scar tissue going man from just how bad the protection and
01:28:41
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and everything else is around it. But I definitely think we need to, you know, set him down for a little bit, let him get fully recovered. Cause dude has looked good, man. I was big on him in the off season. I thought he was going to be the best out of all the rookie quarterbacks. Obviously Jane Daniels has set that bar super high, but I'm a Drake Mayo fan for what we've seen so far. Yeah. Drake May is good, man. That kid's going to be
01:29:02
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he has a future in the NFL. So I hope he does not play this week, but I'm also glad they did play him just so we could see what he was going to be like. Cause yeah, dude, he's been everything he was advertised to be. He's a good with almost nothing around it, dude. Like you get him a couple of weapons. Like, yeah, I think he's going to be an absolute stud. Yeah, I agree. And then your buddy, Tony Barker says, why are the bears so garbage and always get embarrassed?
01:29:25
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I've made the mistake of accidentally texting him yesterday. I said, well, I mean, that's a win for the bears. I don't know if it's a good win. Like they looked like dog shit through three quarters. And then I got, he texted me the same too. I was watching the rest of the text to me. He said, well, they did not deserve to win this game. You were right, dude. They didn't. Whoops. My bad. I felt so bad after two. I was like,
01:29:51
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Well, God, dude, what a heartbreaker. The Bears, yeah, they, they just never had the QV, dude. I think it's, I think it's something, you know, they talk about, they call that wind that comes to that stadium, the Hawk, dude. I think it's something about that that just completely fucks any quarterback in there, dude. We'll see if Kayla Williams can overcome it, but like,
01:30:09
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dude you know Rex Grossman showed a little bit of promise obviously he flamed out in spectacular fashion um i mean dude think think about when they got Jay Cutler dude when they traded for Jay Cutler he was like the hottest young quarterback in the NFL dude he had just come off that 2008 season
01:30:27
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with the Broncos man I mean like it's really insane dude I just let you know you would have trained right Josh McDaniel's is dude that he gets the job with Denver and then they get rid of Jay Cutler man cuz like the that 2018 see that 2008 season he looked absolutely unstoppable and then he goes to the Bears and
01:30:44
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I mean, I think they made the NFC championship, his second year there. And then it just, dude, it all went downhill from there, man. Like they never even came close to recapturing that. And it was ultimately, I think, a failure, man, that, you know, seven, eight year run he had there in Chicago. Yeah, dude, it's really tough. And I get it, man. I've been on the other side of this with just
01:31:10
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not having a franchise quarterback is just brutal and maybe it is just the Bears. So Caleb Williams needs 2552 yards over his last 10 starts to be the first Bears quarterback to throw for over 4000 yards. He's averaging 206.9 a game right now. Let's put each other on the hot seat here. Does Caleb Williams cross 4000 yards?
01:31:37
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I say no, I think he fades down the stretch, man. Yeah. Even if he, even if he did go ahead. I was going to say playing the teams, he's going to play it on the stretch is going to be brutal for him. Yeah. And I thought even if he did, I feel like that would almost say more about just the current state of the NFL than it would about like Caleb Williams. You know what I mean? Cause like 4,000 yards used to be like a super duper achievement, man. Now it feels like if you just, if you just chuck it enough, you're going to get to that number. Yeah, I don't.
01:32:04
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Like I said earlier, I have a lot of doubts about whether or not this bear seem is actually good or not. And I feel like a lot of that's going to get answered here. Um, they got these two next, these next two games here, but, uh, the, the next eight weeks after that, we're going to find out if this dude's actually good or not.
01:32:24
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All right, that's a wrap for the week nine episode of the goal line. We're coming in at just in over 90 minutes, man. Jordan hit us with some closing thoughts and we'll get out of here. Yeah, just again, thanks for listening and enjoy your football week and we'll talk to you guys next week.
01:32:56
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If it's cleaned up, shined up, pedal down all night and you can bet he's picking up some pretty country thing. If it's covered up in red mold with a worn out warm wind, there's a good chance that that man is a pretty damn good friend. If there's horns in the back, there's a gun in the front. If there's pants on the side, he ain't scared of nothing. And if the 12 facts in the passenger seat,
01:33:24
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Well, he probably worked his ass off all week. Yeah, somewhere where I'm buried in a cabin town, there's a red bottom blue collar, driving hands around, turning hands and burning dread, and stirring up dust clouds like a sun-hauling eyeball. Yeah, I'm talking about his truck, his dash, the county on his tag, the songs on his radio.
01:33:55
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You can't judge, but look by his cover But you can judge a country's boy by his truck