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World Team Trials Recap - Session 80
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We cover the World Team Trials, highs, lows, and all. From Slippery mats, to controversial finishes. This years trials had it all!
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Introduction and World Team Trials Overview
00:00:06
Cokeley Brothers
Welcome back to the barn session. I'm your host, Sammy Coakley. I'm joined by one brother today, Ryan Coakley, assistant coach at Iowa Central.
00:00:19
Cokeley Brothers
How are you?
00:00:20
Ryne
That's me.
00:00:21
Cokeley Brothers
That's you.
00:00:24
Cokeley Brothers
It's Sunday, the day after world team trials. There's... There's a lot to discuss from this event. Unfortunately, it's not all just the actual wrestling, ah but we're here to talk about it.
00:00:36
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, Ryan, what are your, give me your, your go-to thoughts post world team trials.
00:00:48
Ryne
I feel like
00:00:53
Ryne
we've entered a new era.
00:00:57
Ryne
We're going to have a lot of new, fresh faces on the team this year, I feel like.
00:01:02
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay.
00:01:03
Ryne
and Just the world team, the national team as
Era Transition in Wrestling: Burroughs and Taylor Legacy
00:01:05
Ryne
well. um But yeah.
00:01:10
Ryne
A lot of youth. Let's put it that way.
00:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:01:14
Ryne
lot of youth.
00:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
I think, I think we had the, the way we could define the previous era is Jordan Burroughs, David Taylor, Kyle Dake, Jaden Cox. um And we still have Kyle Dake around. We don't know if he's going to make the world team necessarily.
00:01:28
Cokeley Brothers
ah But David Taylor's gone. Jordan Burroughs didn't compete. James Green didn't ah didn't make it to Final X. Kyle Snyder, his well he's up in the air.
00:01:41
Cokeley Brothers
There's definitely a lot of... we're We're in transition and it's kind of exciting because it's it's some ah it's fresh meat. So it's exciting.
Nittany Lion Wrestling Club at Final X
00:01:51
Ryne
There is i saw, you know, the whole, the seven Nittany Lion Wrestling Club members at Final X.
00:01:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:01:59
Ryne
Just shouting out of a make it.
00:02:01
Cokeley Brothers
There's yes, there would, they're all at different weights. Otherwise, if there was one setup where they're both at the same weight, then there's a guarantee. But yeah, I mean, Luke Lilladol's got Spencer Lee, ah PJ Duke's got Yanni Dak Mahalis.
00:02:17
Cokeley Brothers
Dake has Valencia, Snyder. We don't know.
Trent Heidley: Competitor Insights
00:02:20
Cokeley Brothers
ah Haynes.
00:02:20
Ryne
bar Barr has...
00:02:23
Cokeley Brothers
Barr has Heidley. Haynes has Wick. Yeah, I mean, none of them are the favorites, I don't think.
00:02:32
Ryne
I mean, other than Snyder, if he wrestles, I would say Wick and Haynes is going to be a three-match series, I feel like.
00:02:32
Cokeley Brothers
Snyder.
00:02:35
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he's up against a tougher opponent.
00:02:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that and maybe Barr and Heidley.
00:02:48
Ryne
No.
00:02:49
Cokeley Brothers
Really?
00:02:51
Ryne
I think Trent is too savvy right now.
00:02:55
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:02:56
Ryne
I think he's just going to overpower Josh in certain positions. and
00:03:03
Ryne
I don't see it going to three.
00:03:05
Cokeley Brothers
You don't see it going to three? Okay.
00:03:06
Ryne
I don't. I see it maybe being close. i just Trent is kind of on another level right now.
00:03:17
Cokeley Brothers
All right. ah
00:03:20
Ryne
We're talking about a guy who's who's been doing it for a while, who's taken down some of the best in the world.
00:03:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:03:27
Cokeley Brothers
So something that i didn't realize happened last year ah quietly at the Olympic trials was Trent Hidley beat Carter Sriracha. which is like i total, total, I guess, side fact, but that win kind of gives you an indication of, you know, where Trent Heidly is on the, on the ranking.
00:03:47
Ryne
Took David Taylor down
00:03:47
Cokeley Brothers
And yeah, he, I don't think a lot of, because he kind of, he will wrestle down to his opponent's level more often than he should.
00:03:48
Ryne
twice
00:03:58
Cokeley Brothers
Like an example is he, got an early lead against Aiden Sinclair and then just kind of settled in and said, all right, um I've won this match rather than just going for the tech fall. Cause he probably could have teched Aiden Sinclair.
00:04:09
Cokeley Brothers
So I don't, you know, that would be the way that Josh Barr wins is if highly, you know, gets his lead settles on it and then gives it up late.
Freestyle vs Folk Style Wrestling
00:04:20
Cokeley Brothers
But yeah, dude, I mean, i remember, I remember 2019, 2020, lot of us were looking at him as the guy who's going to take out Jaden Cox.
00:04:31
Cokeley Brothers
It was like, that's, that's, that's what it felt like Trent Hyde. That could be. You remember that?
00:04:36
Ryne
At what weight?
00:04:36
Cokeley Brothers
92 kilos.
00:04:37
Ryne
At 92? Okay. Well,
00:04:39
Ryne
okay
00:04:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:04:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. Cause he was, i mean, it was like, i think they wrestled each other at the, I don't remember what event.
00:04:49
Ryne
who beat him at? Who beat Jaden Cox at Olympic team trials that basically put him into retirement? Was it Trent?
00:04:56
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, no, no, no, no. was Colin Moore. I think.
00:04:58
Ryne
Oh, Colin Moore. That's right. That's right.
00:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And then Colin Moore briefly after retired. After losing to, I think, Snyder.
00:05:10
Cokeley Brothers
Or somebody. Maybe Trumbull. I think he lost to Trumbull.
00:05:13
Ryne
Yeah, because Snyder beat... No, that was this past... In 21, he beat Colmore. And then 24, he beat Trumbull. Okay.
00:05:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. But yeah. So World Team Trials... I mean, where where where do we where do you want to get started?
Real Woods' Journey to Final X
00:05:31
Cokeley Brothers
I'm
00:05:33
Ryne
Start from the bottom.
00:05:34
Cokeley Brothers
going to dive right into it.
00:05:36
Ryne
Started from the bottom.
00:05:36
Cokeley Brothers
sixty
00:05:37
Ryne
and Now we're here.
00:05:37
Cokeley Brothers
65 kilos. ah Real Woods takes out Brock Hardy.
00:05:40
Ryne
What weight.
00:05:42
Cokeley Brothers
Like, what was the score? The final score? It was 11 and 13 and 9, something like that.
00:05:46
Ryne
nine.
00:05:49
Cokeley Brothers
I can pull it up since I...
00:05:49
Ryne
think was 11. He
00:05:51
Cokeley Brothers
me go brackets. But, so...
00:05:54
Ryne
was up 9. He was up 9.0 at one point.
00:05:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, ah Real Woods... He had quite the quite the path to winning this this tournament. he If we start from the very beginning, it was 10-6. He won 10-6.
00:06:10
Cokeley Brothers
His very first match is Aiden Valencia, who he lost to twice at the US Open. He's losing to him on criteria or losing three to five ah late in the match and just falls into a low single and gets the takedown.
00:06:23
Cokeley Brothers
And then he gets up big on Jesse Mendez, beats him 11 to nine, and then takes out, takes out Brock Hardy, 12, seven or 10, six in the finals.
00:06:27
Ryne
That's the match. It was 9-0.
00:06:34
Cokeley Brothers
And that's, that's that. And yeah, real woods is in, in final X now. And I don't, I don't think you can look at that or his, you know, the, anticipated matchup with him and Joey McKenna and say that Joey McKenna has this locked down for sure.
00:06:53
Cokeley Brothers
think this is going to be some good wrestling. I mean, real woods looks amazing at the start of his matches. If he can extend that for the full six minutes.
Controversial Matches and Unexpected Results
00:07:01
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. He'll be pretty good.
00:07:03
Ryne
um Some other good matches in here, some controversial matches as well.
00:07:07
Cokeley Brothers
Oh yeah. I mean, you
00:07:11
Ryne
Everyone was talking about the Bo Bassett-Bo Bartlett match for a while.
00:07:11
Cokeley Brothers
you know
00:07:15
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Even before that, Carter Young and Marcus Blaze in the pigtail match, basically. ah Carter Young goes up four one going into the second period and then and and loses 9-4. But, um you know, a lot of a lot of matches and ah scores and results that are just counterintuitive to what you would expect based on folk style results.
00:07:36
Cokeley Brothers
um And, yeah, we can get into that.
00:07:39
Ryne
14. 14. We
00:07:40
Cokeley Brothers
But Bo Bassett, Bo Bartlett, let's talk about this. Bo Bassett takes out... Bartlett, 1-0, which is really a score that it shouldn't really happen, but I guess it is possible.
00:07:51
Cokeley Brothers
John Kozak said he's got a spreadsheet of some ridiculous number of matches and only like 15 of them are 1-0.
00:07:58
Ryne
fourteen
00:07:59
Cokeley Brothers
14 of them are 1-0.
00:08:00
Ryne
fourteen
00:08:01
Cokeley Brothers
So he's got like thousands of matches.
00:08:01
Ryne
we Yeah, we did the math.
00:08:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:08:05
Ryne
It was like, what did we say? was 0.05%, something like that.
00:08:08
Cokeley Brothers
Like... like
00:08:11
Cokeley Brothers
something like that. Yeah. There's some ridiculously small number of matches that happen or that end out with this result. ah And the I mean, even though even the step out itself was crazy. So Bo Bartlett very early on in the match, like in in the first moment of the match, gets in on a shot, gets but gets to rear standing, ah tries to break Bo Bassett from a quad pod down into a parterre to get a takedown. And as he's trying to do that, he steps out of bounds.
00:08:38
Cokeley Brothers
And so Bassett gets the step out. And I think Bartlett saw.
00:08:41
Ryne
They let it continue we let it continue for a while, but after they realized he wasn't going to get it, and they awarded the Matt Raff awarded ah Bartlett the one, and then the chair and judge awarded Bassett the one.
00:08:45
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:08:48
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:08:54
Ryne
And supposedly, allegedly, Bartlett was confused, didn't know he was losing, I guess, or don't know.
00:08:55
Cokeley Brothers
which was correct.
00:09:02
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, based on the way in the final, like in the final three seconds, he realized he was losing, which is kind of insane. yeah Even the coaches, like the coaches should know that, Hey, you're losing.
00:09:15
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. It was, it was a super weird result. um Yeah. And Bo Bassett wins one to zero and yeah,
00:09:20
Ryne
once It was exactly how I predicted. Bo Bassett would win because Bo Bartlett does something dumb.
00:09:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, dude. And let's go to the backside because Bo Bartlett's next match is Carter Young. He gets teched 10-0 in two minutes.
00:09:36
Ryne
it's stomped on. Yeah.
00:09:38
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, like... And this tournament, more than ever, kind of has just... It has me convinced that... that there's There is such a vast difference between the way matchups go down between folk style and freestyle.
00:09:58
Cokeley Brothers
there's just There just is a
Impact of Mat Conditions on Matches
00:09:59
Cokeley Brothers
difference.
00:09:59
Ryne
Well, not only that, but you know you can kind of see it sometimes in the way guys are moving or wrestling.
00:09:59
Cokeley Brothers
It's real.
00:10:07
Ryne
like Your mentality shifted. His mentality shifted. I don't want to say that he was i phoning it in um but he definitely didn't look like the same Bo Bartlett that we've seen you know darn near take out Nick Lee.
00:10:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:10:27
Ryne
You what saying?
00:10:28
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So it could be some sad boy hours for sure. I'm not.
00:10:31
Ryne
Yeah. Which is strange for a guy like Bo Bartlett, honestly, in my opinion.
00:10:38
Cokeley Brothers
No, because he is so consistent across the board.
00:10:38
Ryne
because
00:10:40
Ryne
And the the dude is the dude is like, one he's one of my favorites because of how positive he seems to be most of the time.
00:10:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:10:51
Ryne
So I appreciate that in my athletes, I guess.
00:10:51
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:10:54
Cokeley Brothers
I agree for sure.
00:10:55
Ryne
so But it was, yeah, that was that was a weird result.
00:10:57
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:11:00
Ryne
That was a weird result.
00:11:01
Cokeley Brothers
Very weird. So back, back onto the front side, Bassett beats Bartlett one to zero and a match that's happening basically at the exact same time as Brock Hardy and Seth Gross.
00:11:12
Cokeley Brothers
Brock Hardy wins 19 to 16. So, you know, 35 points put up on the board. There was about, I want to say there was like, I'm looking at it right now.
00:11:20
Ryne
19, I think 1913. Oh, okay, okay,
00:11:23
Ryne
ah like okay okay
00:11:23
Cokeley Brothers
It's 1916.
00:11:24
Cokeley Brothers
So the way it happened is Brock Hardy's up 13 to 11. And he's consistently getting in on shots and then just scrambling through and not, you know, giving up exposure, not scoring.
00:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
And I'm watching it and I'm like, this is, I've seen this play out too many times. Like this is not going to go well. And with about 15 seconds left, he gives up an exposure going out of bounds. So he's losing on criteria 13 to 13.
00:11:47
Cokeley Brothers
They challenge it. They lose the challenge. I'm pretty sure. um or maybe they didn't. I really, can't fully remember.
00:11:51
Ryne
i don't think they challenged it.
00:11:54
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, But then Brock Hardy gets in on a shot, gets the takedown, but then also throws him for four and then gives up exposure. And so like in the final nine seconds, you know, eight points go up on the board or something crazy like that.
00:12:06
Ryne
Yeah,
00:12:07
Cokeley Brothers
And Brock Hardy wins 1916.
00:12:07
Ryne
it was insane.
00:12:08
Cokeley Brothers
I didn't get to see any of the exchange live because an ad played on flow, but however you ah pay the bills over there in Texas.
00:12:16
Ryne
That's another problem. That's another issue. We'll save that for another time.
00:12:20
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. More than happy to do that. Yeah, and then and then Brock Hardy takes out Bobass at 12-7 and Real Woods beats Brock Hardy 10-6. And there's your there's your weight class. Marcus Blaze.
00:12:29
Ryne
And you know, i want to go back to this, to that Brock Hardy, Bo Bassett match because um Uber competitive match that I felt could have been even better.
00:12:31
Cokeley Brothers
Go ahead.
00:12:41
Ryne
Had we had ah the correct surfaces for these um athletes to wrestle on, you know, we're watching guys like, I mean, a young guy like Bo Bassett, who shouldn't have to worry about blowing his knees out on a wrestling mat because it's slippery, you know, and it's,
00:12:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:57
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So this, there's a combination of things that are going on here. ah They're Dolomer mats. And, you know, Rudis, since they're it now the USA wrestling sponsor or partner, whatever it is, ah you know, they have these new mats and it was, I believe it was in a barn with like like he was humid.
00:13:21
Cokeley Brothers
I think that was part of the problem is just how warm it was. ah So it was hard to keep the mats dry. ah But if, if you listeners are ah familiar with, what was it like 2018 beat the streets?
00:13:35
Cokeley Brothers
ah Jordan Burroughs, Frank Chimizo.
00:13:37
Ryne
I was multiple beat the streets events where they had slippery mats.
00:13:39
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right. Well, they were, yeah, they were outdoors, which obviously you're already running into some trouble. You're, you're by the, by the water and it's hot. And ah yeah, it's it does it does not work.
00:13:51
Cokeley Brothers
ah The mats get slippery. They try to keep them dry. I thought, you know, hey, you're at a tournament where you have all of these other wrestling mats. Just go swap them out. It's not going to be the end of the world if your Rudis logo is on the mat.
00:14:04
Ryne
Oh,
00:14:06
Ryne
You know what I think they should go back to? The tarps.
00:14:08
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:14:10
Ryne
The tarps never got slippery.
00:14:13
Cokeley Brothers
The tarps don't get slippery. I mean, dude, there's honestly, there's a lot of answers to it. And the biggest one, the biggest solution should be that Dolomar shouldn't make mats, you know, with decals that do that anymore.
00:14:23
Ryne
Yeah, no shit.
00:14:24
Cokeley Brothers
i
USA Wrestling Event Critiques
00:14:25
Cokeley Brothers
don't, I don't know.
00:14:25
Ryne
They've been doing it for years.
00:14:27
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know what they need to do to adjust their system, but it, or their, their production process, it doesn't work for wrestling. So you need to have something else in place.
00:14:35
Ryne
Yeah, I don't know. And honestly, the having cool mats, cool looking mats is like, ah yeah, like whatever.
00:14:41
Cokeley Brothers
No one cares.
00:14:42
Ryne
But it's just one of those things that, yeah, we'd rather have surfaces that guys can get a grip on.
00:14:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, absolutely. I don't, dude, I don't care if, I don't care if, you know, uh, we're wrestling, the kids, the guys are wrestling at final X and it's on a plain black mat. I don't care.
00:15:00
Ryne
Yeah.
00:15:00
Cokeley Brothers
As long as the out of bounds is is, is well-marked and center is, is there. That's all that really matters. It's all you need. So, and I guess you need your indication of where the danger zone is or zone, whatever, but
00:15:11
Ryne
Here's zone. Zone. Give me ye the tarps back.
00:15:18
Cokeley Brothers
So there, there's a, USR wrestling received some criticism over how, I mean, a lot of things, right? yeah This is the world team trials. This is some of the best, right? This, this is a, one of our strongest, you know, highest quality events of wrestlers in, you know, the, at the senior level across the board in the country.
00:15:40
Cokeley Brothers
And we're having it happen in Louisville, Kentucky. The promotion is not high level. The ah venue is not, you know, set to be set up in in a successful way.
00:15:50
Ryne
Fan friendly. Mm-hmm.
00:15:52
Cokeley Brothers
there's just There's just not, you know, enough to promote for this to happen. And like, that's why like's that's why I do like Final X is because you have all of these ways that it is it is brought into
00:16:06
Cokeley Brothers
you can promote it and it is it is brought to the people in a way where it's like, hey, this is easily digestible. ah it does not It did not feel like World Team Trials was that way at all. It felt like there was, I mean, you had...
00:16:16
Ryne
Well, you've kind of said it
Freestyle Wrestling Rules Explained
00:16:18
Ryne
you've kind of said it in the past. like USA Wrestling feels that like the Open and Final X are there too. and
00:16:25
Cokeley Brothers
and's That's, yes.
00:16:27
Ryne
And then World Team Trials is just kind of this thing that they might be even trying to get rid of.
00:16:32
Cokeley Brothers
Seemingly, but here's ah here's the thing. ah So we know that we know the rules and we know the way wrestling works really well. However, if somebody is just watching it off a flow account, they don't really know the rules behind freestyle. And they're like, you know, they like a college team and they're just trying to get into watching on trail Taylor, go out there and wrestle for Nebraska, whatever.
00:16:53
Cokeley Brothers
And they're like, wait, why are there three reps? And wait, what's this shot clock situation? Why did he just get a point? Like there was no activity clock. There was no, there was no, uh, understanding. Like you can't even see what the, what the chair and the judge are are scoring either. So, uh, and then you have the issue with the, the production issue of, of the clock is out of sync on the stream with the actual clock, uh, on the, on the mat. And the, and so everybody's like talking about 86 finals and saying that that that that was rigged and,
00:17:21
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, Dom Pichotta went on a whole rant and then finally recanted this morning. Thank God. But there, I mean, there's so much happening.
00:17:27
Ryne
He did? What did he... the what what did he um cause It just has seems silly to me that you're going to say something is rigged when you have two guys from the same club wrestling against each other.
00:17:30
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:17:38
Ryne
How do you rig Donnie.
00:17:41
Cokeley Brothers
Right. So let me pull up, uh, what he said, if I can find ah Can I even find his Twitter account?
00:17:51
Ryne
Donnie.
00:17:52
Cokeley Brothers
Is it shadow band?
00:17:54
Ryne
Donnie.
00:17:57
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, but basically this morning he said something that I'm working on is, is like I, or is, is correcting myself or pointing out when I'm wrong. Uh, oh my God, I can't, I can't find his Twitter account.
00:18:10
Ryne
I mean, somebody got to him.
00:18:13
Cokeley Brothers
What does that mean?
00:18:14
Ryne
Somebody got to him.
00:18:18
Ryne
don't know. Someone from the NLWC saw his stuff and was like, listen, if you went back in our good graces, you'll recant.
00:18:19
Cokeley Brothers
Where?
00:18:26
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:18:27
Ryne
No? Okay.
00:18:28
Cokeley Brothers
ah When you're wrong, you should try to admit it. A concept that I've been working on. After looking at the freestyle rules and a bunch of comments on here, my take on the Dakes-Darachi match was not correct.
High School Talent: PJ Duke and Others
00:18:36
Cokeley Brothers
We aren't Russia. The USA Wrestling Officials' white paddle ah was a nothing, and it wasn't too.
00:18:41
Cokeley Brothers
Which is, that's all true, and we'll get there when we get there.
00:18:42
Ryne
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he was saying. He was trying to say that the judge was trying to wave the white paddle well before time was out. I remember seeing that now.
00:18:49
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:18:49
Ryne
Okay.
00:18:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah,
00:18:50
Ryne
Which, and the clocks weren't synced up, so.
00:18:53
Cokeley Brothers
Exactly. And then was like, why did it just jump from four seconds to zero seconds? That's, that seems really sketchy. And why is this the only match that happened? It wasn't the only match that happened.
00:19:01
Ryne
Yeah, no.
00:19:02
Cokeley Brothers
the The clock was all met, was messed up the entire tournament.
00:19:04
Ryne
I mean, you see the...
00:19:05
Cokeley Brothers
It's messed up. It's messed up today at Southeast regionals. Like it's just happening all the time.
00:19:07
Ryne
you see the You see the referee blow the whistle and the clock on like doesn't start for us, for online viewers.
00:19:13
Cokeley Brothers
Exactly. Right. Yeah. And you'd think, right. There's hundreds of people there. If the refs blew the whistle early to fool the stream, the people there would know.
00:19:26
Cokeley Brothers
They would be like, wait, what just, what?
00:19:26
Ryne
Yeah.
00:19:28
Cokeley Brothers
So that's just a dumb, it's very, whatever.
00:19:33
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, yeah, that's my rant. Do you want to get back to the wrestling? Maybe 70 kilos.
00:19:38
Ryne
70 kilograms. Get dookied
00:19:41
Cokeley Brothers
High schooler, high schooler, PJ Duke wins this bracket full of studs.
00:19:45
Ryne
on. Runs the gauntlet.
00:19:48
Cokeley Brothers
So, Where to even start?
00:19:52
Ryne
How many NCAA championships were there that didn't even...
00:19:53
Cokeley Brothers
First of all, we got, we have one title, two titles, three titles, three titles, three titles, and probably one of the greatest to never win it.
00:19:59
Ryne
Three titles.
00:20:04
Cokeley Brothers
James Green.
00:20:07
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, plus, I mean, Bryce and Bryce and Donian, Brayton Lee, Jackson Arrington, Parker, Will Luan.
00:20:08
Ryne
Shoot, never even made a final.
00:20:16
Cokeley Brothers
mean, this was a great bracket. So, um But yeah, PJ Duke, let's start in the quarters here. ah James Green up, I think he was up 5-1 on Caleb Henson with about 30 seconds left. And Caleb Henson just rattles off two takedowns, just just out, just pressures James Green into into two positions and and gets the takedown both times and wins 5-5 on criteria to to win that match.
00:20:39
Cokeley Brothers
ah Bryce Andonian takes out Will Luan 8-3. Ridge Lovett, Tex Ian Parker, and then Entrell Taylor and PJ Duke are in a great back and forth match. ah I think the scoring was right across the board.
00:20:54
Cokeley Brothers
PJ Duke wins nine to six.
00:20:54
Ryne
It's, yeah. course I that match twice, and I was, like, trying to find discrepancies, and I couldn't really.
00:21:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it it all felt as it needed to be. ah the big The big exchange here, so it was five to four.
00:21:03
Ryne
mean.
00:21:08
Cokeley Brothers
ah On trail Taylor was winning with about 30 seconds left. They're locked up in an, in an upper body position, uh, near the out of bounds line. And it looks like on trail Taylor's trying to like kind of pull him backwards a little bit. And Duke senses that. And he goes for like, I think he went for an inside trip at the same time or some sort of exchange like that. And he gets four off that on trail Taylor comes out on top and,
00:21:30
Cokeley Brothers
That's basically that. so um PJ Duke wins that 9-6. That was a great match. Entre Taylor goes on to the backside and probably another ah case of sad boy hours and loses to Brayton Lee
00:21:47
Ryne
and
00:21:47
Cokeley Brothers
Or Brayton Lee is just that dog.
00:21:48
Ryne
Dude, wouldn't say that was a case. Dude, Brayton Lee is coming back, dude.
00:21:53
Cokeley Brothers
He's pretty good.
00:21:53
Ryne
Slowly but surely. Slowly but surely.
00:21:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Brayton lost on the front side, 4-4 to Caleb Henson. And another one of those situations where the ref, their short time left, yeah Caleb's kind of avoiding the the the situation.
00:22:06
Cokeley Brothers
He's kind of not fleeing, but it's it's borderline.
00:22:07
Ryne
He has his head... He has his head buried, is the deal.
00:22:10
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:22:10
Ryne
That's why they call it. is' They called it because his head was buried and blocking. But, I mean, he...
00:22:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:22:15
Ryne
Dude, Brayton Lee had him right where he wanted him. He, won you know, in the zone. All he needed to do was maybe... take a, take a shot to not even like get to a takedown, but like just get to a leg barely with your fingertips just to drive them out of bounds, get that step out with short time left.
00:22:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:22:33
Ryne
I mean, he would, you could kind of tell that that's what it looked like he was setting up. And then the ref blows the whistle for fleeing the hold or attention for fleeing the hold, brings them back center.
00:22:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:22:42
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:22:42
Ryne
And then it's like, well, I mean,
00:22:45
Cokeley Brothers
That's just got to not be a rule anymore. There's got to be something different that they do with that because I don't think anybody out there agrees.
00:22:51
Ryne
Or just don't don't call it don't call anything like that when they're in the zone.
00:22:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so you can either you can either not call anything or you can change the way you address that situation because bare minimum, of them nobody wants to see the action stop with 20 or fewer seconds left.
00:23:07
Cokeley Brothers
And we are in a situation where the guy that's losing is in position to either drive him out or get in on a shot or anything.
00:23:07
Ryne
No.
00:23:15
Cokeley Brothers
any Any stop in the wrestling in that time frame sucks. It's not good for the sport.
00:23:19
Ryne
no No one was happier to get that attention than Caleb Henson. You know what I mean? like
00:23:25
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Right.
00:23:26
Ryne
He was like, oh, I'll take that attention all day long.
00:23:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:23:28
Ryne
like
00:23:28
Cokeley Brothers
Absolutely.
00:23:28
Ryne
Take me back to the center? Sure, thanks.
00:23:31
Cokeley Brothers
Take me out of my precarious position. Cool.
00:23:33
Ryne
Yeah.
00:23:34
Ryne
It was...
00:23:34
Cokeley Brothers
I didn't want to be there.
00:23:35
Cokeley Brothers
at this So yeah.
00:23:37
Ryne
I was disgusted.
00:23:37
Cokeley Brothers
Frustrating.
00:23:38
Ryne
I was disgusted, to be honest.
00:23:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. It's, it's.
00:23:41
Ryne
I was disgusted. I was at work watching it, and I gave one of these.
00:23:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. You, you, you texted, you texted me.
00:23:47
Ryne
My co-workers were like, You're right, right? was like, no, I'm not all right.
00:23:50
Cokeley Brothers
you, You texted me you're like, Brayton Lee got screwed. And I like didn't, because I just know that that's the way they do the rules. And so i I'm just jaded, I guess. I don't know. It happened and I was like, yep, you got to be able to work with that.
00:24:04
Cokeley Brothers
so ah But yeah, Brayton Lee's pretty good. hes I do think he i I want to see him you know sort of work his way back into being one of those contenders.
00:24:17
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah. ah The semis.
00:24:19
Ryne
Brayton Lee, if you're listening to this, we're big-time fans. ive At least I've always been. I was a fan when you were Minnesota. Obviously a fan when you went to Indiana. Big Brayton Lee guy right here. This guy.
00:24:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Yes. ah Semis. Bryce Andonian takes out Caleb Henson 3-2. This is a battle of the brothers and ah in the Hokie room.
00:24:42
Ryne
Southeast RTC boys.
00:24:43
Cokeley Brothers
and And PJ Duke takes out Ridge Lovett 3-2. It's kind of insane.
Final X Matchups and Predictions
00:24:52
Cokeley Brothers
Like, because just thinking about it,
00:24:55
Cokeley Brothers
Um, like looking back, looping the matches back in my head. I don't remember very many times where people were in on PJ's legs and he's a high schooler.
00:25:06
Ryne
He's solid. and And, he's like, you know, you get, you not, not that I'm, not trying to throw shade at people for being older than their grades are or whatever.
00:25:08
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy.
00:25:15
Ryne
You know what I mean? People are throwing shade at Bassett and, forest and all that, whatever.
00:25:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:25:21
Ryne
I'm not trying to throw shade here. I'm just saying it's pretty impressive that Duke, who is probably but at the right age for his grade and is doing the things that he's doing to these NCAA champs.
00:25:33
Ryne
you know i mean And rich Ridge Lovett's a six-year guy.
00:25:34
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:25:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's...
00:25:38
Ryne
so And he's savvy.
00:25:40
Cokeley Brothers
Now, these... Again, these matches will... they This is a good indicator of what P.J. Duke is going to look like in the college season, but it you you do have these different...
00:25:55
Cokeley Brothers
different positions, different situations, different issues that you're going to come up against in folk style. But the time being for freestyle, this, the way PJ wrestles is it works. He's powerful. He's confident, uh, and comfortable in, in upper body ties. He can use that. He can use his strength to move his opponents around the mat, um, defensively sound.
00:26:15
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, just the way he wrestles works for him. So, uh,
00:26:19
Ryne
Yep. yep
00:26:20
Cokeley Brothers
yeah. And then he goes on to beat Bryce Andoni and four to one in the finals. I kind of, you know, I I'm a little impressed that Andoni and kept it this close. Cause it was a, um, well, he gave up a takedown with short time left in the, in the first period.
00:26:35
Cokeley Brothers
But, um, like Andoni got teched by Duke at the, at the, uh, Bill Farrell earlier this year. So to keep it this close was impressive. And I got, I kind of thought for a moment, i'm like can, can Bryce do it?
00:26:46
Ryne
The, the out of bounds situation
00:26:47
Cokeley Brothers
But,
00:26:53
Ryne
where they only awarded one point for Andonian. Do you think it should have been more where it kind of, you know, PJ looked like he was trying to like, maybe hit a throw on like a bail, but didn't exactly like go straight to his back.
00:26:59
Cokeley Brothers
Um,
00:27:03
Cokeley Brothers
right.
00:27:09
Cokeley Brothers
Like in retreat.
00:27:10
Ryne
And it was,
00:27:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I don't, I don't think, I don't think you can determine exposure, at least from the, the camera, the camera angle. One is one is probably the right call there.
00:27:23
Ryne
I agree. I mean, i I just wanted to get your ah take on that.
00:27:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, i think I think they made the right call. ah kind of expected them to give ah Duke points there, but I think one for Andoni makes sense.
00:27:39
Ryne
Yeah, so that sets up all New York Final X at 70 kilograms.
00:27:39
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:27:42
Ryne
We got Hilton High versus Minasink Valley, baby. who's who's gonna Who's going to come out on top?
00:27:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:27:49
Ryne
We got Yanni, who's 26 years old versus the 19-year-old high schooler in P.J. Duke.
00:27:58
Cokeley Brothers
No kidding. No kidding, dude.
00:28:00
Ryne
I love it.
00:28:01
Cokeley Brothers
And these backside matches were, I mean, there's, there's a good, there's what a handful of forfeits here. Like Caleb Henson forfeited Ian Parker and James green forfeited to Jackson Arrington, but Jackson Arrington goes on and, uh, loses.
00:28:15
Cokeley Brothers
So he loses. He gets teched in the opening round to Entrell Taylor. ah receives a forfeit from James Green, beats Will Luan 7-3, then loses to Ridge Lovett Ian Parker beats Brayton Lee 6-5, gets a medical forfeit from Caleb Henson, and then beats Ridge Lovett 5-4 after getting teched by him in the quarters.
00:28:34
Ryne
Yeah.
00:28:35
Cokeley Brothers
So, Ian Parker is tough on the backside, seemingly.
00:28:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:28:41
Ryne
It just, Ian's one of those slow starters, I feel like. Kind of always has been, right?
00:28:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. But once it gets once it gets rolling, you better get out of the way.
00:28:46
Ryne
Like, yeah. Yeah.
00:28:51
Cokeley Brothers
So.
00:28:52
Ryne
They should bring, they should bring a, they should bring a, like a dummy match for him before the tournament starts.
00:28:52
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:28:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. ah
00:28:59
Ryne
Yes.
00:29:02
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. 74 kilos. You want to get rolling?
00:29:05
Ryne
74,
00:29:07
Cokeley Brothers
Not, I mean, and really not too much to say about this weight.
00:29:10
Ryne
No, pretty much chalk.
00:29:10
Cokeley Brothers
David Carr... ah makes his way through it. He, he had some close matches and I, and I don't know if that's props to those guys or if, if it's like David Carr, what's going on with you? um
00:29:21
Ryne
No, I think it was just kind of, I don't know. Like sometimes that's just, David will sometimes wrestle enough to win.
00:29:28
Cokeley Brothers
down. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:31
Ryne
From time to time. It feels like that's what he against Jack Hughes.
00:29:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:29:36
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So he, he beats Bearclaw 6-3 in the quarters. David Carr does. And then takes out Jared JQ's 2-0 in the finals. JQ's beat, uh, huh?
00:29:43
Ryne
Meaning the semis. he'd be He beat Bearcon the semis.
00:29:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. What did I say? Quarters?
00:29:50
Ryne
Quarters.
00:29:51
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, my bad. Uh, JQ's beat Quincy Monday in the semi 62. That was a good win for him. Uh, and honestly, Jared has Jared looked good this entire tournament. ah Joey Blaze comes out the backside and takes third, beating Quincy Monday seven to two after losing to him 3-1 on the frontside.
00:30:07
Ryne
so So Joey will get an opportunity to wrestle for the national team spot at Final X, correct?
00:30:14
Cokeley Brothers
Third. Yeah, yeah i i mean I think we'll be seeing national team spots wrestle at a handful of these weights. I'm not sure you know the full number, but um yeah we should be seeing a solid number of true third matches.
00:30:29
Ryne
Isn't that another reason why you should wrestle fifty seven and sixty one too?
Transitioning from Folk Style to Freestyle
00:30:33
Cokeley Brothers
Well, you already have those set up from the US Open.
00:30:36
Ryne
and
00:30:37
Cokeley Brothers
Like Provo and Cronin are going to wrestle each other, I believe.
00:30:40
Ryne
Okay.
00:30:42
Cokeley Brothers
I believe. Don't quote me.
00:30:44
Ryne
No, I believe you.
00:30:46
Cokeley Brothers
um Okay.
00:30:47
Ryne
I'm quoting him.
00:30:50
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, I mean, 74, David Carr, we get another matchup with him and Mitchell Mezenbrink. I don't know what to think yet. I don't know what to think yet. It's
00:31:00
Ryne
It's going to go to three. That's what I think.
00:31:03
Cokeley Brothers
going to go to three. That'd be exciting. I would love if it goes to three. um
00:31:09
Cokeley Brothers
And with the news that ah Jamalov is not going to wrestle from from the international perspective, Jamalov's wrestle. We probably won't CC the Cobb. 74 is kind of ah losing its quality.
00:31:22
Cokeley Brothers
And so I feel better about ah our U.S. rep being able to medal. It's still going to be tough. You've got Sherman Valiyev. You've got the Iranian rep. You've got whoever Japan's going to send.
00:31:33
Cokeley Brothers
um And the Azerbaijan wrestler, I can't remember what his name is.
00:31:37
Ryne
We'll be alright.
00:31:39
Cokeley Brothers
74 is tough, but I feel better about it because, dude, if you had Sita Kavan Jamalov in there, dude, that's a ridiculous weight.
00:31:49
Cokeley Brothers
so
00:31:50
Ryne
Yeah. Jamalov's having surgery. Is that what I read?
00:31:54
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, it's like his... I can't remember. I feel like I've seen different numbers every time I see a tweet about it. It was like his eighth surgery in five years or something like that.
00:32:04
Ryne
Yikes.
00:32:04
Cokeley Brothers
on his On his knees or maybe his knees and shoulders.
00:32:06
Ryne
i Look how wrestles.
00:32:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I know. I know. Okay.
00:32:13
Ryne
The body can only take so much.
00:32:17
Cokeley Brothers
It's true. 79 kilos. Levi Haynes takes out Dean Hamity. 10 to 2. Looked pretty good. ah Looked like he just had the answer to every position that they were ah ending up in.
00:32:31
Cokeley Brothers
ah Maybe he was starting to frustrate. um Dean Hamity a little bit, but comes out on top, wins that. Now he's got a matchup with Evan Wick.
00:32:45
Ryne
here's the Here's the nice thing about about all these. I feel like a lot of these are going to go to three.
00:32:53
Cokeley Brothers
I could see 65, 74, 79, 86, sixty five seventy four seventy nine eighty six
00:33:04
Ryne
it. That's four.
00:33:05
Cokeley Brothers
92 could go to 3.
00:33:07
Ryne
No. Maybe. All right. I'm not going to say no, but I don't i don't think so.
00:33:10
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
Kyle Dake vs Carter Starachi Controversy
00:33:11
Ryne
I don't believe so.
00:33:11
Cokeley Brothers
i don't think...
00:33:11
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think... I don't think Jax can... I don't think Jax can get a match off Vito. I don't think PJ can get a match off Yanni. I mean, that's total bias, but whatever.
00:33:22
Ryne
Well, who's more likely to get a match?
00:33:22
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:33:26
Cokeley Brothers
Jax or PJ?
00:33:27
Ryne
Yeah.
00:33:29
Cokeley Brothers
who Probably...
00:33:31
Ryne
I feel like it's Jax just because Vito's coming off of surgery.
00:33:32
Cokeley Brothers
Probably Jax.
00:33:36
Ryne
Vito's coming off of a little bit of a hiatus.
00:33:36
Cokeley Brothers
Right. This will be Vito's first competition since Worlds.
00:33:40
Ryne
Yep. So I feel like it's Jax.
00:33:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah, i don't I don't hate that. um It just feels like, it kind of feels like if PJ is going to beat Yanni, he's just going to beat him.
00:33:48
Ryne
And also...
00:33:53
Ryne
What do you mean?
00:33:55
Cokeley Brothers
Like it's just going to be two matches.
00:33:57
Ryne
Oh.
00:34:00
Ryne
I don't know.
00:34:00
Cokeley Brothers
I just don't think that's going to happen. Like, i don't I don't see it happening as a back and forth.
00:34:04
Ryne
Oh, OK. Yeah.
00:34:06
Cokeley Brothers
Like, if Yanni is able to get to his legs and score takedowns and and like, he's just going to win the match both times.
00:34:10
Ryne
Yeah, I agree.
00:34:14
Cokeley Brothers
ah So, yeah. And then, yeah, but like 97, if Kyle Snyder is going to wrestle, he's going to, he's going to smash Zilmer. Wyatt Henderson is going to smash ah Trent Hilger, which was a surprise.
00:34:28
Ryne
My Lance. Lance, no.
00:34:28
Cokeley Brothers
Uh,
00:34:33
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Now 79 kilos. I don't think we'll see true third here because Simon Ruiz takes third, but he lost to Dean Hamity.
00:34:39
Ryne
No, you won't.
00:34:40
Cokeley Brothers
So I believe that just sets it up the way we see it.
00:34:40
Ryne
Yeah. Dean's on the national team.
00:34:45
Ryne
National team Dean.
00:34:46
Cokeley Brothers
National team Dean.
00:34:48
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Okay. The weight everybody was talking about this weekend, 86 kilograms. Kyle Dake wins three to three on criteria over Carter Starachi. Dude, I had a tweet queued up for the result of this match and I changed it four times because there was so much deliberation between the final exchange.
00:35:07
Cokeley Brothers
ah So like let's get into it a little bit here. The score was one to one. I think I can actually look at the score sheet here. ah The first point went to Kyle Dake for passivity.
00:35:19
Cokeley Brothers
And then the second shot clock point went to Carter Starachi. So was one-to-one. Carter Starachi was winning on criteria with about a minute left. Kyle Dake gets in on a shot and and scores a takedown. Very clean finish, dude.
00:35:31
Cokeley Brothers
You just, it's so...
00:35:33
Ryne
low Not that clean.
00:35:34
Cokeley Brothers
Go ahead.
00:35:35
Ryne
Not that clean.
00:35:36
Ryne
There was there was a scramble.
00:35:36
Cokeley Brothers
well clean
00:35:38
Cokeley Brothers
Well, clean in clean and relation to... I mean, that that's the thing is i just I've seen Carter Starachi wrestle folks off for so long.
00:35:42
Ryne
No, he's so he's hard to take down. I understand what you're saying.
00:35:45
Cokeley Brothers
He's so hard to take down. Yeah. Like, I don't know. And so like, there's, there's only so much you can do to extend a position and freestyle, but, but that was, that was, I mean, even, even, even though it's Kyle Dake, it's still just, it's still impressive to see that now.
00:36:00
Cokeley Brothers
So there's about 45 seconds left on the restart. ah Kyle Dake is wrestling around, wrestling around, evading the positions, you know, trying to not ah let Carter Strachey get in on a shot.
00:36:12
Cokeley Brothers
ah he gives up a step out. Well, the first they go out of bounds grounded. And then he gives up a step out. He gives it up so willingly with about 10 seconds left or even six.
00:36:25
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, whatever, however many seconds left, 10 seconds left. And it's a, it's a one and a caution one. And so it's three to three.
00:36:33
Ryne
Six seconds left on the restart.
00:36:36
Cokeley Brothers
Three to three, six seconds left on the restart. And um Carter Stracci gets in on a shot and picks up Dake and puts him on his butt.
USA Wrestling Controversies Explored
00:36:44
Cokeley Brothers
And the time runs out. Now, a lot of people think that Carter Stracci should have gotten takedown there.
00:36:53
Cokeley Brothers
And in folk style, I believe that that is a takedown. Correct?
00:37:00
Ryne
Yeah, if there's time on the clock.
00:37:03
Cokeley Brothers
If there's time on the clock... He's got them on his butt. He's got the legs collected. All Dake has is a is a chest wrap. And I believe Carter's head has even popped out to the side. um So takedown.
00:37:17
Cokeley Brothers
Or that is a takedown in folk style, but no takedown in freestyle.
00:37:19
Ryne
It did seem like Dake was only on one cheek.
00:37:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, so let me read what United World Wrestling has defined as two points. You award two points to the wrestler who overcomes and then controls his opponent by passing behind, uh, three points of contact, two arms and one knee or two knees in one arm or head or elbow that basically breaking them down into parterra behind or to the wrestler who applies a correct and complete throw that brings his opponent into a prone position or a lateral position or a position with three points of contact.
00:37:50
Cokeley Brothers
Basically correct. ver That's is what we see.
00:37:52
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:37:54
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, two points to the wrestler who executes a hold that places his opponent's back at an angle of less than 90 degrees. ah including when his opponent is on one or two outstretched arms, two points to the attacking wrestler whose opponent rolls onto his shoulders, basically back exposure, two points to the wrestler who blocks his opponent in the execution. So this is, ah we're getting into more ah ah specific positions, basically. So basically their definition of a takedown is you have to be behind the guy. You have to be a up behind your opponent and they have to be broken down into part-chair position.
00:38:26
Cokeley Brothers
So, there's not really any way in the rule book that defines that the position that they were in as a takedown for, for Carter's to Rachi.
00:38:35
Ryne
You've just seen it so many times where guys get in that position and they just don't award it.
00:38:40
Cokeley Brothers
Right. Because not a takedown.
00:38:42
Ryne
You know?
00:38:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:38:43
Ryne
Yeah.
00:38:44
Cokeley Brothers
So, I mean, honestly, what Carter should have done is tried rolling, rolling rolling through.
00:38:48
Ryne
ah It's honestly what he should have done.
00:38:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:38:51
Ryne
They probably only would have given him two.
00:38:51
Cokeley Brothers
But I mean, dude. Yeah.
00:38:53
Ryne
I don't know if they would have went two and two, depending on how Dake would have reacted, I suppose.
00:38:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:38:58
Ryne
But I don't know.
00:39:00
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Just so that's, that's that. And there was a desync with the stream clock and the actual clock. There was, uh, you know, people saying that USA wrestling is handpicking their team, which is kind of insane because this doesn't even determine what the two, two is going to be the rep.
00:39:24
Cokeley Brothers
You still have final X.
00:39:25
Ryne
Yeah. yeah
00:39:26
Cokeley Brothers
um I mean, I guess it suggests like they they want Kyle Dake, so they're going to put him in position for it. but
00:39:33
Cokeley Brothers
this is This is kind of where everything this weekend came to a head because, I mean, even the the slippery of slipperiness of the mat, it wasn't super obvious for this match, but it you would expect them, both wrestlers, to have been a little bit more...
00:39:46
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. like Kyle Dake probably would would actually engage in up in a tie-up and try and defend from head-hand position. But if you just get driven, you're just getting driven out of bounds and you're sliding.
00:39:57
Cokeley Brothers
There's nothing you can do about that. um So that's that's kind of where the slipperiness plays into and to the match as well. it just Everything kind of came to a head here. and And then, dude, people got to the point where they were like posting about Rich Bender's salary on on on Twitter. And, and ah dude,
00:40:16
Cokeley Brothers
and were getting, they were getting, they're just getting angry at USA wrestling and I get it. They, does USA wrestling have some room for improvement on how they produce events at this level?
00:40:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, absolutely. Um, are they going to actually improve the the production of those events? I hope so.
Emerging Wrestlers Spotlight: Josh Barr
00:40:39
Cokeley Brothers
I really hope so because it could be so good for the sport.
00:40:42
Cokeley Brothers
Um, I don't know what it looks like. I don't know what it looks like. so But Kyle Dake wins this match. And that's that.
00:40:53
Ryne
I just don't think, I just, just just I mean, I don't know. Keep an open mind, I guess. Like, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but I don't believe that USA Wrestling is doing or or having the referees referee one way towards certain people to get certain people on the team, yada, yada, yada.
00:41:18
Ryne
You know what I'm saying? Like, and just don't see that.
00:41:20
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:41:22
Cokeley Brothers
I don't, I don't either. I did. It doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me to, cause like officials kind of act as their own separate entity as well.
00:41:34
Cokeley Brothers
It's not like USA wrestling has like a group of officials and it's like, I'm going to, I'm going to send my men out there to do my bidding.
00:41:35
Ryne
Yeah.
00:41:40
Cokeley Brothers
That's not really the way I, at least that's not the way I see it. That's not the way, that's not the relationship that I've witnessed between the USA wrestling company or organization and, uh, and the fit, the officials that officiate these matches, these events.
00:41:59
Cokeley Brothers
So Carter Starachi is, I think he's going to be the real deal in freestyle ah forever, forever, however long we get them. I don't know if he's going transition to MMA at the end of the cycle, or if he's going to say, I'm going to,
00:42:15
Cokeley Brothers
win a bunch of senior and and Olympic titles. I don't know.
00:42:23
Ryne
Did you see my text last night?
00:42:28
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe. Maybe.
00:42:30
Ryne
I thought it was funny that guys like Barr, Haynes, Liladol have all made it to Final X before your Carter Stracci.
00:42:38
Cokeley Brothers
That's kind of funny. But also, i mean, the people that if Starachi went up to 92 kilos, he's probably going to make Final X.
00:42:48
Ryne
Uh, yeah. I don't know.
00:42:51
Cokeley Brothers
Probably.
00:42:52
Ryne
He gives a lot of props.
00:42:52
Cokeley Brothers
Now, is he going to beat Trent Heidley? I don't know.
00:42:53
Ryne
he He gives a lot of props to Josh Barr.
00:42:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. oh Man, that'd be an interesting match. But I mean, dude, even do you think, I guess, 79 kilos would be a little bit of a cut for him? Either way, Zahid Valencia and Caldeik is ah it's a great 1-2 to be behind.
00:43:12
Ryne
I think Carter could still make 79. had heard...
00:43:17
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
00:43:17
Ryne
i had heard
00:43:17
Cokeley Brothers
He would have to he would have to like actually size down. because like Did you look at him?
00:43:20
Ryne
I heard, you know, I knew he's big.
00:43:20
Cokeley Brothers
Because he looked big.
00:43:22
Ryne
he well He always looks big, but I had heard the 84 was like nothing for him.
00:43:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:43:27
Cokeley Brothers
Probably not. I mean, he probably weighed like 190 regularly.
00:43:30
Ryne
That's kind of what I had heard. It was even less than I had heard. He walking around like 185.
00:43:35
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy. yeah
00:43:36
Ryne
Like, like ah to make weight, I just had to like miss a meal or, you know what i mean?
00:43:37
Cokeley Brothers
If true.
00:43:40
Ryne
Like eat less or that's kind of what I had just been hearing. i don't know. It could be totally off.
00:43:43
Cokeley Brothers
Sure.
00:43:44
Ryne
Just kind of what I've been.
00:43:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yep. Yeah. Maybe he's 200 walking around. Who knows?
00:43:49
Ryne
He could be. He does look like it.
00:43:51
Cokeley Brothers
Could be. Dude, he looks big.
00:43:53
Ryne
His chest and shoulders are giant.
00:43:54
Cokeley Brothers
Now, what we do get to see as a result of this is a true third match between him and Parker Kekheisen.
00:44:03
Ryne
And Kekhizen? So Kekhizen beat Marceller?
00:44:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:44:06
Ryne
Did Marceller not wrestle in the back? I didn't check.
00:44:07
Cokeley Brothers
Marstela didn't wrestle. So Keck Eisen beat ah Marcus Coleman for third.
00:44:12
Ryne
Beat Marcus twice in one tournament, huh?
00:44:13
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah.
00:44:15
Ryne
That's... Poor Marcus. So did Marcus...
00:44:19
Ryne
Wait, wait. like goodre
00:44:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:44:21
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. No, you're right.
00:44:22
Ryne
Two matches.
00:44:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:44:23
Ryne
They were both against Parker Keckisen.
00:44:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:44:29
Ryne
That's bad.
00:44:30
Cokeley Brothers
Lost five to two and then six to two.
00:44:33
Cokeley Brothers
Tough break.
00:44:34
Ryne
Yeah, that's shitty. He could have fucking stayed in Iowa for that. cause Pardon of my French. He could have stayed in Iowa for that one.
00:44:41
Cokeley Brothers
No kidding. All right. Uh, 92 kilos. Josh Barr takes out Aiden Sinclair, seven to three. We saw this matchup three times or four times, maybe even more than that last year at U twenties.
00:44:55
Cokeley Brothers
Um, Yeah, these guys these guys are good. ah You yeah ah had a redshirt freshman and a, I guess, a yeah true freshman or ah a wrestler in redshirt.
00:45:06
Cokeley Brothers
um Both making the finals with Aiden Sinclair took out Mike Machiavelli. Josh Barr took out Dustin Plott. These guys are good. And...
00:45:15
Ryne
God, the plot bar match was a good match too.
00:45:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yep, 10-4. It was great. um Yeah, it'll be exciting to see
00:45:23
Ryne
It's lot better than and the score is reflecting is what I was trying to say.
00:45:27
Cokeley Brothers
Right. get what you're saying. um It'll be exciting to see Hyde Lee and Josh Barr. i think that'll be an exciting matchup. It'll be kind of ah one that people don't really have penciled down. Like the big matchups that people are going to look at are at 57, honestly, 57, 61, 70, 74, 86,
00:45:40
Cokeley Brothers
honest so fifty seven sixty one ah seventy seventy four eighty six But like 92, 92 is going to be good too. Between, between Barr and Hailey, that's just going to be competitive. People just, you know, they don't look at them and say like, these are two of our premier guys, at least not yet.
00:45:58
Cokeley Brothers
So yeah, that's 92.
Event Summary and Reflections
00:46:02
Cokeley Brothers
We can wrap it there and move up to 97 where Hayden Zilber.
00:46:06
Ryne
I mean, we can be can basically do, I mean, 97 in heavyweight. All right, there it's just.
00:46:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:12
Ryne
The higher we get, the more boring these.
00:46:13
Cokeley Brothers
Hey,
00:46:16
Cokeley Brothers
Right. we can just We can quickly touch over on these. I was really wrong about Justin Rademacher. He lost 11-4 to J.I. Yellow, who then lost to Hayden Zilmer, And then Rademacher on the backside lost to Hoffman, 4-3.
00:46:28
Ryne
That was sad boy hours.
00:46:28
Cokeley Brothers
So...
00:46:31
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. all right. ah
00:46:33
Ryne
No, Hoffman's tough.
00:46:34
Cokeley Brothers
And then... Hoffman's good.
00:46:34
Ryne
Hoffman's good. I shouldn't say that.
00:46:36
Cokeley Brothers
Hoffman's good. And then Trent Hilger won the a Heavyweight bracket. He beat Jordan Wood 13-2. Tectum, holy crap.
00:46:46
Ryne
Dude.
00:46:46
Cokeley Brothers
And then beat Demetrius Thomas 10-4. Yeah.
00:46:51
Ryne
Yeah.
00:46:52
Cokeley Brothers
yeah
00:46:52
Ryne
How about did Demetrius beat Christian again?
00:46:53
Cokeley Brothers
Kind of surprising.
00:46:54
Ryne
That was a one-point match. Oh, a two-point match.
00:46:57
Cokeley Brothers
6-4. 6-2-4. And then Christian Lance. ah Super interestingly, Jordan Wood beat Lucas Stoddard on the backside 3-3 and then medically forfeited Lance. So...
00:47:07
Ryne
So, Lance...
00:47:08
Cokeley Brothers
No true third.
00:47:12
Ryne
Well, oh, because, yeah, duh, duh.
00:47:12
Cokeley Brothers
Because Meech. Yep. Yep. And that was our men's freestyle world team trials.
00:47:24
Ryne
Skylar Grote darn near took out Amit Elor.
00:47:29
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:47:30
Ryne
Let's talk about that briefly.
00:47:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Let's talk about that. So I'm going to pull it up.
00:47:32
Ryne
Briefly.
00:47:36
Ryne
Briefly.
00:47:36
Cokeley Brothers
That's the wrong weight. It's a 72 kilos.
00:47:39
Ryne
Got a bunch of Grote haters out there.
00:47:40
Cokeley Brothers
So I meet Allure...
00:47:41
Ryne
We're here to defend. rocks.
00:47:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Michael Yeomans, you can kick rocks.
00:47:46
Ryne
cake rock
00:47:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, Amit Allure made it to the finals, and so did Skylar Grote, and it was a 2-1 match. All shot clock points, but... if we compare the competitive competitiveness of this match to their Final X series back in 2022, think, right? Yeah, no, 2022, 2022.
00:48:04
Ryne
Two
00:48:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, think twenty twenty two think
00:48:08
Ryne
or three, two or three.
00:48:08
Cokeley Brothers
right yeah and twenty twenty two twenty two ah i think so It is way more competitive and interesting to see. you know What do you say? Do you say Skylar Grote is making these serious jumps? Do you say Ami Allure is looking a little shaky after having... you know This is her first competition since the Olympics.
00:48:31
Ryne
Probably a little bit of everything, but here's here's the deal.
00:48:31
Cokeley Brothers
what do you What do you take?
00:48:31
Cokeley Brothers
What do you do you make of this?
00:48:33
Ryne
Here's the deal. What you can't deny is that Skylar is an excellent game planner, okay, and and has vastly improved in not only technique but strength as well.
00:48:39
Cokeley Brothers
True.
00:48:44
Cokeley Brothers
Correct. She, she's
00:48:45
Ryne
Because we all know how strong Amit is, and she was basically, ah you know, she was tying Amit up, you know, like slowing her down and yeah utilizing her strength to offset Amit's strength, so.
00:48:51
Cokeley Brothers
right there with her. Yep.
00:48:59
Cokeley Brothers
Correct. um Yeah, this this was this was a good match. This was an interesting you know development to see because, I mean, the people didn't really expect it. um But Skylar's out at the at the OTC training. I think Sarah Hildebrandt is her coach now.
00:49:16
Cokeley Brothers
um And so, you know, things are looking better for her with that all happening. So, yeah, and and what we had... two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. We also had eight women's weights wrestle.
00:49:30
Cokeley Brothers
Um, I didn't follow them. I just, I'm also, I'm out of the loop with women, which is why, like, I don't want to, I'm not going to sit here.
00:49:34
Ryne
Yeah, i am too. I need to get back
00:49:36
Cokeley Brothers
I'm not going to sit here and like give you the results and be like, this is the significance that I understand behind it. Um, cause I just don't.
00:49:43
Ryne
it. Yeah. I've also been dropping the ball. past Not just this year, just in the past. i was yeah i used to be used to be locked in on that stuff. I'm not as much as I used to be.
00:49:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:54
Ryne
so
00:49:54
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Now I will see like Felicity Taylor beat Sage Mortimer. That's a good result. That's a good result to see. Yeah,
00:50:01
Ryne
Yeah, but I think Felicity's beaten her in the past too.
00:50:05
Cokeley Brothers
it's tech fall.
00:50:06
Ryne
like college Like college, like being here in college. and so i don't know. Maybe Easier.
00:50:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. that's That's the thing is I, dude, I have no idea what the college matchups look like at at that. I want it to be something that I follow more regularly.
00:50:21
Cokeley Brothers
And I'm guessing what, cause this next season is when they're like officially an NCAA sport. Correct. So that'll probably make it a little bit, uh, streamlined. So that's exciting.
00:50:35
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Closing thoughts.
00:50:38
Ryne
Closing time. One last call for Dr.
00:50:41
Cokeley Brothers
I had like side.
00:50:43
Ryne
Pepper.
00:50:45
Cokeley Brothers
i had something on the side that I wanted to talk about, but what was it?
00:50:52
Ryne
Cheers. The doctor.
00:50:55
Cokeley Brothers
Cheers, Mr. Pepper.
00:50:58
Ryne
I love me some Dr. Pepper. This episode brought to you by
00:51:02
Cokeley Brothers
I love me some.
00:51:06
Cokeley Brothers
Gable Game. Can't.
00:51:07
Ryne
yeah Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:51:07
Cokeley Brothers
Not a sponsor. That's...
00:51:09
Ryne
Have you played today?
00:51:11
Cokeley Brothers
Did I... Yeah, I got it in three.
00:51:12
Ryne
Five. I got a five. It was tough for me today.
00:51:15
Cokeley Brothers
Well, my first guess was at the same weight, so...
00:51:18
Ryne
Ah, that'll make it easy. That will make it easy
00:51:22
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I went Steed, and then I went Skulls, and then I went Manchinona.
00:51:29
Ryne
I went see and I was trying to decide which one I should do. I was like, should I do schools or should I do man to know? Because I know it's one of these guys. I'm at schools first and then man to know. So I should have got him for but.
00:51:44
Ryne
Yeah.
00:51:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, sorry, man. i'm just built different. And apparently I bugged your system, so...
00:51:50
Ryne
Oh, that was just that one time. It only did it that one.
00:51:53
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that probably...
00:51:53
Ryne
i It hasn't done it since.
00:51:55
Cokeley Brothers
That sounds... i have no idea how to figure that one out. So, sorry.
00:52:01
Ryne
It might've just been user error, honestly.
00:52:04
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but if if I'm unable to replicate it, that's a problem. problem that I don't know how to solve.
00:52:10
Ryne
um That's what I'm saying. Well, it just might've been like a one-time thing. It might've been my network that I was on. I was at the, I was at the college when I was doing it too. And like, it might've just been taking it a while to load up.
00:52:18
Cokeley Brothers
Right, right. But you...
00:52:21
Ryne
And so I typed in the name twice and clicked it. So it just recorded it two times and,
00:52:26
Cokeley Brothers
If there's a situation where people have poor network in the future, they're going to run into the same problem. So I want to figure out how to had a curb that.
00:52:35
Ryne
ah to
00:52:35
Cokeley Brothers
Enough talk of that.
00:52:36
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you, everybody, for listening. I must leave soon for wrestling practice. So I hope you have a good one.
00:52:42
Ryne
On the Lord's Day, it's the day of rest.
00:52:46
Cokeley Brothers
The Lord can rest. We got to get better at wrestling. We suck at it down here.
00:52:51
Ryne
Not everyone. Alabama's on the come up.
00:52:55
Cokeley Brothers
yeah i done it Southern Alabama is its own different thing. We got a lot to work on.
00:53:03
Ryne
Are you technically Southern Alabama?
00:53:07
Ryne
I guess so.
00:53:07
Cokeley Brothers
right Look at me on the map, dude.
00:53:08
Ryne
No, I know. I know. I was thinking, i thought from some more, for some reason, I thought you were more like center ish, but i guess now that I'm thinking about it more, you are more. Yeah. Sorry.
00:53:19
Ryne
Sorry.
00:53:19
Cokeley Brothers
No. i am the i as south as it gets.
00:53:21
Ryne
I've only been there twice. I've only been, I've only been there twice. So like, I'm just not totally familiar with the geography of it all. Okay.
00:53:29
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, dude, we were a hop. we We drove down to the water. We drove down to it.
00:53:34
Ryne
Yeah, but there's water everywhere.
00:53:37
Cokeley Brothers
All right. People, go enjoy some water. Goodbye.