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Ep. 202 – Sunday Morning Service: Peeping Pastors Make the Worst Accountability Partners
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This week we’re chatting the accelerated aging cycle of Goodwill stores, the looming disaster that is the presidential election, a Wisconsin pastor with idle hands and a Net Nanny skeleton key, and finally we’re dusting off an old prophesy trick that I’ll bet you’ve used yourself in the past. Enjoy the show!
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Just tell me when to stop. I'm moving my finger all over the page. Tell me when to stop there. All right. Then putting him to one side, he ordered them to bring the other. And he said to him, you offspring of Canaan and not of Judah, beauty has begilded you and lust has perverted your heart. See, I, it might've worked. I've been struggling.
00:00:44
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Grown Up Christian. I'm Casey. I'm Sam. And, uh, yeah, it was a special Sunday morning service edition. Uh, so for, for my company, like the end of the year is, you know, we, we end September 30th. So first bit of October is like kicking off a new year. It's always kind of crazy. So we had trouble getting, getting together earlier in the week this week, but, um,
00:01:14
Speaker
One of the things that I did this week was I went up to Kansas City for like a class thing that I had to go to. yeah And depending on when time of the week it is, you know, like sometimes April will come up with me and just hang out. And we don't typically do anything too crazy. It's just like go do some shopping or something at night. And we, so before we came back the other day, we went to, went to Shields, which is,
00:01:43
Speaker
shields is the greatest store. ah have not We don't have those around here. What's the shields? It's like, uh, it's just like an enormous. Like outdoor store. Okay. It's kind of like everything. It's kind of like, uh, it's like if you put four Dick sporting goods together, but it was actually like cool stuff and nice brands and things like they have everything it's so cool. And mine has this, has a bronze statue of Ronald Reagan in front of it. Oh.
00:02:12
Speaker
Well, at least do you know, they're on the right side of history. Right. It's like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, um a man cowering in front of a bear. That was funny. when When the one in Wichita first opened, to like I went in there the one day just to like, see what it was and you know how big it was and stuff. And, uh,
00:02:36
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When I came out, it was packed. And when I came outside, there was a line of old ladies waiting to take each other's picture with the Ronald Reagan statue. No way, dude. That's hilarious that that was like their biggest like draw. They're like, opening day, we're cutting the ribbon. And they're like, this is going to be a big day for sales. They see the line just fucking down the street.
00:03:01
Speaker
and then They open the doors and all the old ladies go in and take a picture of the Reagan and leave. Yep. That's awesome. Monumental. I love how old ladies love Reagan. That's so cute. i would It would be fun to just go to the nursing home and be like, all right, everybody, today's assignment, you're going to write you know a 200 word essay on why you like Ronald Reagan and just see what comes back.
00:03:29
Speaker
you ah You could probably make a pretty good living off of doing like um like a Ronald Reagan, being a Ronald Reagan impersonator and just brightening up nursing homes. just ah what's like What do they call those people who just like usher you to death? Half the people in the nursing home are our late stage Ronald Reagan impersonators. yeah
00:03:55
Speaker
Everybody's trying out the Reagan impression. yeah
00:04:00
Speaker
and So after we went there, we, you know, we, we always go to like thrift stores and stuff like that and poke around. And so, uh, they just opened this new Goodwill, like up there and close to shields. So we decided we'd stop in there and, and then check it out. It's nice, you know.
00:04:19
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real It's all fresh and new and it's pretty big and stuff. and ah That never lasts too long at a Goodwill. Well, they age 70 years. like It's like they age in dog years. I don't know how all thrift stores age in dog years. Well, I know exactly how this one's starting off the aging process.
00:04:39
Speaker
so We kind of came in and like, uh, let's, I gotta, I gotta use the bathroom. Let's, let's go to the, go to the back, you know, and they've got like a bathroom section back there and it's, uh, it's, uh, like the individual stall bathrooms. Right. So there's like a communal sink thing, you know, with the mirror and stuff, but then like the big vault door individual stalls, like the gender nondescript ones or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Which Hey, so you and abraham to take a shit right next to each other.
00:05:10
Speaker
Yeah, well, we shared one. We thought that'd be more courteous. Yeah. Do you ever her spider on the, uh, on the swing set? Yeah. That's what we like to do. That's how it's done. It's not sexual. Yeah, no, of course. It's practical. It's not sexual.
00:05:29
Speaker
Double down on it. I don't know how I feel about those individual stalls because in one way, I'm like, dude, it's got the door like all the way to the floor. i mean it's like a It's your own little apartment in there. It's sealed off, which I think is great, but I feel weird about like a lady sitting in there next to me like listening to my pee.
00:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, you know, I don't know. Maybe you have yeah just have those traditional values, man. It's hard for you to ah hard for you to accept progress and change. And isn't it funny how like, I know it's different when it's like, you know, it's strangers, which I don't know why it's different, actually. But like, if you anytime anyone if your bathroom in your house is near a living room area, like,
00:06:15
Speaker
You can hear people pee and no one's like, no one's like, it's just something you're used to. oh No one's like, Oh my God, this is so embarrassing. Or like, I don't know. You don't really think too much of it until you're out in like public.
00:06:28
Speaker
And then you're like, why? It becomes instantly weird, even though you're all in there for the same reason. Like it's not, I don't, what's weird about, why is that weird? Is it just, it's gotta be just a social, I don't know. I just worry that there's like an old lady in the stall next to me with her ear pressed against the wall, like rubbing one out. Oh, is that what you're worried about? Oh, I'm peeing. Yeah.
00:06:50
Speaker
And that's not sexual. I don't want her to use my urine stream for her sexual gratification. I see. So you're worried about being objectified when you go to the bathroom and that's what you don't like. Exactly. Okay. I would like one space where I'm not objectified i constantly.
00:07:09
Speaker
So I go in your only safe space. The last frontier. They took it. if You're gonna go so far right now. It's ridiculous. You're just it's Like good to just hijack the whole like transgender bathroom like argument, but just make it all about Women trying to hear me pee or just yeah, I mean in general just making it about yourself is how politics goes these days anyway Yeah it's but it's all about yeah So, I picked one of the stalls in the middle, right, because the door was open. so walk in Okay, but that already, given what you've said, was a bad choice because now you could be listened to from both sides. It is true. You just opened yourself up to twice as much objectification. Well, I feel like the ones on the edges, the doors were closed, so you couldn't go in those. okay Were people in there? I think so. I think there was somebody shooting up in one next to me. yeah
00:08:10
Speaker
But so I walk in there and shut the door and like immediately I'm like oh oh God, what is that smell? You know and wasn't wafting in from the glory hole in the wall whispering eye up next to the the People
00:08:40
Speaker
like it it is yeah Okay, so everybody's walked into a bathroom probably in the last week and been like, Oh God, somebody just dropped on in here. You know, but there is, there's a distinct difference in like,
00:08:58
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note and intensity when the thesis did not end up in the water. ah you know Like those times you go and it just like, it doesn't fully submerge and just flops onto the side of the toilet bowl, you know? Yeah. Like you got ah you got a turd and dry dock. Like everybody's going to know it is immediately apparent. and So I'm like, I'm like,
00:09:27
Speaker
God, this is, this is bad. Like what is going on here? And you know, you're kind of like looking around like, uh, and I mean, there was some, there was some shrapnel on the, on the side, but nothing like immediately. It wasn't immediately clear, like where this smell was coming from. So I'm like, all right, just get this done and get out of here. So I'm like peeing, I finish up and the whole time I'm just like, Oh God, I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here.
00:09:54
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And I just could not tell like where it was coming from. And then like, I looked down and there is just a smear on the floor, like right in front of the toilet.
00:10:09
Speaker
How do you miss? I don't understand. Like, how do you miss? What sort of acrobatics are you doing that you, that you miss the bowl? And then I don't, I guess they didn't pick it up or something. I mean, it looked like somebody had stepped in it.
00:10:23
Speaker
Someone may have they maybe Maybe after they go to the bathroom. They do that like dog rubbing their ass on the carpet move that's how they came Or yeah, maybe they're out of toilet paper, you know, it wouldn't be unlike a good will to be out of toilet paper, right? Do you think when they do it they do like like because some dogs keep the the feet the rear feet on the ground and some of them they like They hoist them up in the air. Do you think a person would have theirs, like, pointed at the ceiling? Wait, what? Yeah, like, if you're doing the scoot, I mean- Yeah, yeah. Do you- I mean, are you- Oh, yeah. Like, you're, like, you're, um, it's almost like you're, like, breakdancing, you know? NBA Jam style. Yeah. You do some laser beam move. Was that her name? Was that the Olympic, uh, breakdancer? Reagan. Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:11:19
Speaker
Maybe also inspired by Ronald. It's a possibility. Dude, Ray Gun costumes for Halloween must be pretty high. I i imagine there'll be several. There's got to be. i i would I would certainly imagine that's going to be a popular one this year. yeah Have you looked at any lists to see what the big 2024 trendy costumes are? No.
00:11:43
Speaker
I haven't. Should we pull it up? Should we see? I wonder. A slutty late late Ray Gun might be a good one, you know? It's all just variations of Ray Gun. Let's see. no Top 2024 Halloween costume ideas. Here we go.
00:12:02
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I don't know. I don't want to go to Party City. Men's Health seems to have done an article on it. That's probably less than inspiring. 59 best Halloween costumes for men. I got 40 Halloween costumes for 2024 that are instant cloud preasers on Cosmopolitan. Okay. I got one from ah USA Today. They seem like they're um maintaining cultural relevancy pretty well.
00:12:30
Speaker
Cosmo is not cuz number one is mr. Bean. Yeah is he back why Oh, yeah ray guns number two on this list ah your head number two I have shrunken head Bob. I guess that's from Beetlejuice. I don't know. Okay ray gun catnap Which is the kids at my school talk about that and I definitely don't think it's for kids but most of the what they Watch isn't Dolores from Beetlejuice, Envy from Inside Out. Who's dressing up as this? Dr. Doom, Lady Deadpool, whatever. These suck. Nothing crazy. Yeah, this is not good. blows Oh, pet costumes. Top 10 pet costumes. A dog dog pool. A Stegosaurus. A hot dog. Clever. Yeah. I got one for Phoebe with the little cowboy that rides on her back.
00:13:25
Speaker
Oh, those are always fun. I love those pretty great edie anyie thing. I'm a sucker for costumes that look like you're riding something, uh, like a dinosaur, like the ones that like for people, not just like for dogs, uh, like the ones where like you put the costume on and it looks like you're riding something. Yeah. I think, uh, well, having been to a lot of comic cons, I think.
00:13:49
Speaker
the inflatable t-rex is yeah that that's what she said of the costume world yeah that one that one's definitely had it's uh it's heyday at this point i i just saw a um I might have been from Zillow Gone Wild, I think is it was a Zillow Gone Wild post, but all of them yeah it's so good it's ah but all of the pictures for the house were taken with like there's like several people dressed up in those inflatable T-Rex outfits.
00:14:22
Speaker
So it's like just doing stuff. So they might be like having a cookout and on the back deck or they're just like sitting in the living room reading like every but every picture of the house had like the T-Rex family enjoying the house. And I thought it was quite funny.
00:14:41
Speaker
Just little a little cute way of being like, this is a cool like, I don't know, to me, you see that you go, I'll check that house out. I want to see where these T-Rex is frolic. So, but now, okay, like now, let's say you're gonna buy that house and you get to closing and these people are just pricks, nickel and diamond you over every little cent.
00:15:00
Speaker
That would make me really hate them. It's like, oh, you're the fun laid back T-Rex family, huh? And now you're busting my balls over closing costs. But how would you feel about it if they did it in full costume? And and then the lawyer that you're talking to was also in a T-Rex costume. Can you? Oh, I'd like i'd I'd soften the blow for sure. I'd act like I was going to go to the restroom and then I would like wrap my belt around the doorknob.
00:15:27
Speaker
and set the building on fire. yeah I think all terrible situations that you have to be involved in should like be handled with people in T-Rex costumes. like you like like You know it's a bad sign when you're a doctor. like he leaves you he He takes all these tests, he talks to you for a while, he leaves, and he comes back in an inflatable T-Rex costume. You're like, I'm fucked.
00:15:54
Speaker
Yeah, like eventually the inflatable T-Rex becomes like the harbinger of doom. He's like seeing the Grim Reaper in the shadow behind you. I could live in that world.
00:16:09
Speaker
Uh, so I texted you about this earlier in the week. I don't, I, I don't have a tally. But I can't tell you how many people I've talked to in the past two weeks that have been like, so, uh, do what's up with these hurricanes, huh? i think there's light going on there Everybody, everybody is saying something like that. The, uh, the weather control devices. Yeah. And obviously whoever's controlling the weather has it out for Florida big time.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, which I mean isn't florida is Florida still a swing state or is it pretty pretty resolutely red at this point? I feel like it's pretty resolutely red but that's why we have to get rid of it. yeah yeah I think that's what the working theory is. I just find it hilarious that we have like 75 years of data On climate change or more and it's like it's been actively studied for decades ah closely monitored thousands and thousands of peer reviewed journal articles have been written on it and for some the most plausible explanation is that someone has developed a weather control device.
00:17:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's just not convenient to think that, you know, the earth is getting warmer and it has some some measure to do with human activity like that. And even if you want to like put your head in the sand and say it has nothing to do with human activity like and you want to ignore all of that evidence, the evidence that the earth's climate is shifting is it's just obvious.
00:17:50
Speaker
um Yeah, it's just like even if you want to say that humans aren't responsible, it's still seems easier to be like, yeah, the place is just warming up, you know, and we don't know why in this. But now they're just like, oh, it's whether it has to be weather control. And it's it's maybe it's a is it like a control, it like it gives you a semblance of control to think that this is deliberate.
00:18:14
Speaker
and that it's done for some sort of nefarious purpose and there and and in theory at least could be stopped rather than thinking like like li basically and ah it's like that's the same fucking thing it's like i mean nobody's stopping climate change i know but that's the frustrating thing right you go it's being done for nefarious purposes and it could be stopped like this I feel like this say you could just layer those two arguments on top of each other, whether it's climate change or weather control device. I guess, but like nobody is proposing any actual like solutions. like okay Let's say the entire world gets together at this point and is like, let's get serious about stopping climate change. They're not going to do anything.
00:19:00
Speaker
like I mean, maybe there's some small measures or whatever, but it's it's it's as out of it's as out of control as just about anything at this point. But I do wonder if like maybe that's part of the motivation is like one, it's more gratifying to think that this is being done to someone. like There's a purpose behind this, and it's it's like some sort of ugly you know tactic that they're using.
00:19:28
Speaker
It is funny, like how many people have been like, you know, look at the path. I mean, look at the pathway of the, of these storms. It's hitting red States, clearly hitting red States artists. And it's like, to what end, like, to what end would that be the case? Well, because they want to suppress the vote. It's like.
00:19:45
Speaker
But we have the you have the electoral college like south carolina is still gonna go bread Right. It's just gonna be a soggier red. Yeah It doesn't matter it doesn't matter if like not as many people turn out to vote if it still goes red like it's the the result is the same if this was like some sort of like uh tactic to repress republican votes or something, which is a god At this point, even pretending that there's like world arts altering differences between these two morons. Oh my God. I know. Although I did just see a real, I did just see a fun breakdown of Trump's proposed tax plan. And if you make under $360,000 a year, it kind of fucks you.
00:20:34
Speaker
If you make 360,000 or over, you get some substantial ah tax benefits tax credits. Well, there's a real simple answer there. Don't be a loser.
00:20:44
Speaker
Yeah, work harder. Don't be poor.
00:20:50
Speaker
yeah it's it's lot dude It's funny because like the two big things that that that people talk about, right first being immigration, and it's just so hilarious watching the two sides like argue about it. Well, I think Trump goes after like the Democrats more for their quote unquote loose border policies and shit like that. Like he's continually harping on that. Every chance he gets, every question he's asked, he brings it back to immigration. Like I don't think he's answered a question without bringing up immigration in the past like four weeks. And like the Biden administration kept pretty much all of his border policies in place. And as like a percentage and a a number has deported more people than Trump did.
00:21:43
Speaker
And you're just like, and then you hear ah Kamala going off on like, basically using right wing talking points to talk about the border. And it's just, it's the same, like they're pretty much like they both are pretty hawkish about the border. And I just think that's funny that they're like, that people are fighting about it as though there's any difference between what's going to happen at the border based on who gets elected. Yeah, like the only the only The only real like difference in policy, I think between the two administrations was just like the asylum seeker thing. Like they had to yeah yeah apply for asylum elsewhere. They couldn't come into the country and then apply for asylum, which I don't know. That makes sense to me, like apply for asylum first. But yeah, I don't know, man. It's just, God, what what are the real differences?
00:22:36
Speaker
Okay. The real differences would be abortion. That's a big one. That's a big one. And it's so funny watching like Trump try to walk back, like the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Like, I don't know. He's trying to like really soften his approach to abortion, walking up to this election. And he's, uh, for any, like the vote religious right that, uh, has any sort of, um,
00:23:04
Speaker
I don't, who haven't abandoned their quote unquote standards, uh, should care about that. And some do, uh, but most are just hear what they want to hear still. Yeah. Well, I mean, and he does not like, he has no like moral or ethical commitment to no, like this issue. I mean, he would, I don't think.
00:23:28
Speaker
absent like major pressure from his like, you know, primary voter base. Like, I don't think he ever would have even tried to get that sort of stuff done. But, you know, that's what his base wanted. And he did it. Now, he you know, there's no hiding from that. Like, you've got the pieces in place. You made it happen. So my biggest concern at this point is that um it looks like whoever is elected will get at least one or maybe two more Supreme Court ah picks. And I'm not excited about having like, I mean, at that point, you'd want to have to you'd have to consider, you know, was a court pack when they call it ah when they um
00:24:11
Speaker
When you have to basically make more Supreme court positions available. So that way, I don't know. oh really like expand it There's been a lot of talk about that. It sounds like that might be a thing that they do in the future. Yeah. Well, and it all depends on who's in control. Right. All of it is going to actually push that change through.
00:24:30
Speaker
No, because if you're outnumbered, then like, that's why you'd want to do it. Like if you only have two liberal Supreme Court justices and you're like, we need to get a few more. And it's just funny because like, to me, it seems like the obvious answer. One, I mean, everyone on is on board with ah this getting rid of this lifetime appointment and bullshit. like No one thinks that's a good idea. I don't think you could ask. I think maybe 20% of Americans might be like, well, I could see, what like no one likes this idea of, it like you get picked and you do that job until you die. That's so dumb. You need a set term and you can't re you can't run for Supreme Court again if you've served your term. You know like you need to do your term 10 years or whatever and be gone.
00:25:17
Speaker
And then you just have an odd number, right? You have a and then you just you have ah equal amounts of conservative and liberal judges, and then you have to pick like some fucking center of the road loser to be in the middle. It just seems like these there's just very easy ways to be like, we can work together, we can make this work for the people and it ends up just being like some, it's not. I mean, obviously whoever, whatever administrations and power is just some attempt to to have more power um and it sucks. It feels like ah ah ah if we should just split the difference and make things equal, ah you'd think the highest court of law in the
00:26:05
Speaker
country should just be that should just be equal. ah Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is it's sort of designed to make it tough to put large changes into practice easily, you know, but I don't know, man, it's better than this. all i'm ever forty It's just this back and forth every four years and then the the the sidelining of like an You know, Obama obviously should have been able to pick ah someone for that. It's like, I don't know, i just this constant sidelining of like, we're not gonna like, of of not, when it comes to like the vetting, whatever it was, I honestly forget what it was at this point, but it's just like,
00:26:47
Speaker
The party that gets to pick the other party just does everything they can to railroad it and not play by the rules, which I guess is part of the rules at this point, not playing by them. But it's just an annoying. It's aggravating as fuck. ah And it feels like that that should be able to run a little bit more smoothly. And it might give a little bit too much power to the person in office when they get to to pick the judges for the fucking highest court in the land.
00:27:17
Speaker
So you got abortion in the Supreme Court. Those are two important ones. um I don't, i do I see people arguing back and forth over like foreign policy. i i I seriously, I don't know if you could do a worse job with foreign policy than the Biden administration has done. And I don't think that Kamala has signaled any sort of meaningful change from the current policy, especially in regards to Israel. Now, maybe Trump would just, you know, greenlight whatever Israel wanted to do. Sure.
00:27:51
Speaker
Sure. Uh, I, I mean, has Biden not done that? I mean, I, the the whole idea that like there's that, you know, continuing the Biden policy on Israel and on, you know, the war in Ukraine is like somehow drastically more responsible than like Trump. I mean, I, I don't want Trump to be in control of this stuff.
00:28:15
Speaker
But dude, you've got, you've got no legs to stand on here. Like, no, he literally pushed us to the brink of war in, in two major world theaters and show no signs of change in anything. I mean, did Kamala has not said a substantive thing about either the war in Ukraine or Israel since she took the, uh, took center stage here. I mean, nothing.
00:28:40
Speaker
no And the rapid, terrible interviews that she's doing are so frustrating to listen to. It's like, I think we need to remember the context, the the moment in which we are living. And in that moment, where do we find our place building consensus?
00:29:02
Speaker
We need to be consensus builders. It's like, you are not saying anything. ah Say something. say Just say anything. Make one definitive statement, not this like garbage, like this gobbledygook nonsense. Yeah, it's infuriating. and I think it's also particularly frustrating because it's like, I know that you're the vice president, but you're running for president. And now it's time for you to delineate yourself from the Biden administration. Like she hasn't done anything to she on no, no topic, no policy, nothing has she been like, well, here's where we differ. Like she, it's like been her job to be lock step with Biden from the start. And now she like can't balance having to
00:29:47
Speaker
Do that as vice president and also be her own person. We're like, we're not looking for Biden 2.0. That's not what anybody wants. We don't want you to just double down on everything he's done as though it's, and I get that she has to walk a tight rope, right? Because if you, if you start talking about where you think you could make effective change and do something better, now you're going to have to field all these questions about you being part of an administration that did something that you don't actually agree with.
00:30:17
Speaker
So she is kind of stuck between that rock and hard place, ah which is why she's only sat on things like ah ah child tax credits and like basically like the things that Biden has done. ah She can be like, well, we just I want to do more. So all of all of her talking points are about.
00:30:39
Speaker
doing more of the of the good things that have happened since in the Biden administration, but she's not grappling with where things have gone south. And I think that's where we would have been better off with really any other candidate who isn't already part of the administration, at least to the degree that she is, because they would be able to be critical of it. And she's just stuck having to cosign everything that Biden does. Otherwise, they go, oh, you changed your mind on this, or Well, what you're working for an administration that you think is making, why haven't you been vocal about what, like she's just been so supportive and doubled down on all of the Biden policies that she can't she can't create for herself her own presidential pathway. But she's basically been and invisible for most of his term. I mean, she has been such a passive participant in every single aspect of his presidency. like
00:31:37
Speaker
There were months at a time where, like, nobody heard anything from her. I mean, she was just gone. Vanished into the ether. And like anything that she did have an active role in, like you know whatever she was doing with the border, or you know they put she was I want to say that she was ah put in charge of like the reconstruction plans for Gaza after the war ended. I've never heard anything about that afterward. And don't quote me on that. I don't know exactly what her role was that she was design designated there. but
00:32:08
Speaker
it's i think like When you think back to that period where Biden was forced to step down, which all right if if you're still running this this narrative that like you know he stepped out of the way because he wanted to make room for the next generation of leaders and yeah he like selflessly gave up power, like i don't dude, I don't know what to tell you, but that's insane.
00:32:34
Speaker
yeah But I think like him endorsing Kamala was like his last, it was like him flipping the bird on his way out was like. Like, okay, well, you want me to leave? All right, well, I endorse Kamala. Undo that. Because you you see, like, the Obamas and, you know, Pelosi and, like, the king makers that pushed Biden out yeah didn't endorse her right away. They were pulling for some sort of, like, ah DNC, you know, primary runoff thing.
00:33:05
Speaker
Right where they can put their own little stooge candidate in place. I mean, I don't think in all the polling at the time showed her as being like such a bad choice for the role. She got the big bump afterwards after she was nominated, you know, because I mean, who wasn't relieved that Biden wasn't this one in the hot seat anymore, but.
00:33:24
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I don't know. I mean, I just – there's just – I cannot get excited about any aspect of her campaign because she's just not speaking to any of the things that I care about, you know other than this couple of things that we named there, which are – I don't know.
00:33:42
Speaker
I want to hear about how we're going to get out of this situation in Ukraine. like yeah Make a definitive statement about how we're going to bring this conflict to a close without a major exchange of like fire between world powers or without you know slow motion ceding Kiev to Russia. Because i mean there's just no path to victory here.
00:34:04
Speaker
And as far as Israel goes, dude, they have thwarted the Biden administration at every turn during this conflict. Oh, yeah. and And we're also not being told the same, you know, the full story about like their endorsement of the ah the invasion of Lebanon and stuff like leaks keep happening, saying that like US officials behind the scenes were encouraging them to do that.
00:34:28
Speaker
it ah yeah i'm I'm just so beyond like frustrated and disgusted with how Biden has handled this whole conflict. And I mean, God, I just I just have no confidence in either of those two to manage this conflict going forward. No, I don't. And it's rolling into what we're not that many weeks away from election. I just it's it sucks that it as we've been saying since Well, since they decided to run Biden, ah since they originally decided to run Biden again, it was like, this should be like a shoe in for a democratic candidate. Like Trump has obviously lost some of his steam, not all of it. Um, his like, but he's slowed down a lot, right? He's not like on the move. He's not constant. Like I know he's doing his podcast circuit and shit like that, but he's not, he doesn't have the same fervor and rigor that he had.
00:35:27
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uh, last time. And I think, you know, people like the, i you know, conservatives who are gonna vote that way anyway, right? There, there's no point in trying to change certain people's minds, right? And we know that based on where people campaign, we know that they're not going to areas that are just a lost cause for them. but like I don't feel like the branding and the cult-like movement around Trump is as rigorous as it was previously either. um Now he's just the guy they're going to vote for because they think he'll do the things they ah care about. so
00:36:07
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I think he when you factor in that, like just some of that slowdown, and that's not a huge, I mean, I don't think it's a huge shift. and I don't think he's going to lose a lot of voters by any means, but I think there's more people who are just like, I don't know anymore. This is getting old. We're just getting tired of the same old Fox running for the same old shit. And yeah it should have it felt like it should have been a shoo-in for any ah DNC candidate like that could have been nominated. And you just go,
00:36:37
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We had Biden and then we we moved to Kamala. And now, like, there's just no confidence that it's just up in the air. Like, no one can tell either way. I know you never really can in a presidential election, but this feels like you should have a clear idea of where things are. And I feel like any other candidate would have gotten us to that point of being like, I think they got it.
00:37:03
Speaker
like um But to be this unsure, this close to the election, ah and seeing the same old shit we've been watching for the fucking 12 years, it's like exhausting. It's so exhausting. We all just want a fucking change. We want to feel like we have a say in who gets to run for the highest office. it And we just fucking sit here and get to ah theorize about not even like you don't even get to really know what any like to have zero idea of what anyone's going to do once they get to office. Like, yeah, that won't even running like I know what they're saying, but there's no reason to believe them. And I know that's always part of politics to a degree, but it feels exacerbated right now. And
00:37:52
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I don't know, it's concerning, it's frustrating, it's demoralizing, and I think people just, it's, it's ah people are just giving up on giving a fuck.
00:38:05
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And it's hard to even do that, you know, cause I mean, I feel like in the past I've definitely had those bouts where I'm like, this is like the president just seems like such a ceremonial position that barely matters in the end of the, at the end of the day. Like when it comes to actual policy, you know, that's, that's like comfort food sometimes is to think like, ah, what do I, I don't know what, does this even really make a difference? But like the.
00:38:29
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You know, Ukraine and Israel has kind of like killed that notion because yeah the lunatics that they appoint to, you know, the state department, the the CIA director, all those guys, you know, like John Kirby and um Matthew Miller and Anthony Blinken, like these lunatics are the ones that are driving the ship now in these conflicts. Because I mean, Biden certainly isn't, dude, he is gone.
00:38:58
Speaker
I mean, he is vegetative state. I can't even imagine, ah I think you sent me a an article about a conversation Biden had with Israel's prime minister or whatever, and you're just like, you're reading it and I'm like,
00:39:16
Speaker
It's hard to believe Biden's having this conversation. like no he's He can't be. It has to be someone like on behalf of Biden. you know I can't imagine him like fielding some of these like phone calls right now and actually engaging in presidential duties. It's it's he it's concerning. Yeah.
00:39:38
Speaker
I mean- Yeah, and on top of all of that, I mean, the Jews are shooting lasers into these hurricanes. I know, dude. It just never stops. It's crazy. Give it a rest. All right. I'm trying to think, do I, well, okay. I'll go through this news story quickly.
00:39:57
Speaker
All right. Uh, I got a story for us. I just learned about it today. So the information is pretty fresh to me too. Uh, but in Kenosha, Wisconsin, I believe is, uh, nothing bad's ever happened there. No, I mean, there's nothing usually there enough for anything bad to happen. Uh, but there's a, uh, a cool mega church pastor.
00:40:20
Speaker
Who was charged with some cool things. Um, apparently he's already been accused of doing what he is being accused of doing again, but he got off the first time probably on a technicality. Um, but he listened to people pee and jerk off. Yeah. ah He's already been accused of sending himself revealing photos of a parishioner from that parishioner's husband's phone. Like, so he got this, like, he got a parishioner's phone and sent himself pictures of that guy's wife ah to himself.
00:40:59
Speaker
Well, yeah. What? i It seems like there's way less complicated ways to. ah Is this some sort of like accountability thing where he's like, let me see your phone. um I got to make sure you didn't, you know.
00:41:13
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yeah It's possible. So Journey Church fired 41 year old Gabriel Mills in light of the first set of allegations he faced. And now prosecutors say that he sent himself intimate photos of different women sometime between October 23 and September 24.
00:41:30
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ah Mills was arrested on September 30th in regard to the first set of ah accusations. At that time, the Kenosha Police Department issued a public alert and indicated its belief that there may be additional victims, one of those victims identified in criminal but Jane Doe.
00:41:48
Speaker
um It says prosecutors spoke to the victim's husband. He said he met Mills through the church and considered him a friend. And the two often got together outside of church. He grew concerned when Mills was not at church on September 29th. But the two got together the next day before Mills arrest. During that meeting, per the complaint, the man said Mills admitted to going through the man's work laptop to gain access to his cell phone. OK, so that's how he did it.
00:42:17
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which I don't even know how he got his work. hated Yeah, Mills said that he then sent himself intimate photos of the man's wife, which why are those on your? Oh, not those aren't on his work laptop. That's ones like iCloud or something. Yeah. ah The man also said he never shared or discussed the photos existence with anyone. Yeah, because it's that's the kind of thing that gets you caught. It didn't help them. But um The victim told police that her husband informed her of Mill's confession per the complaint. Detectives searched the husband's work laptop and personal cell phone as part of the investigation. They also searched Mill's cell phone and found an intimate photo believed to be Jane Doe 1. But now there's like a dozen other allegations against this guy that he's been doing this with several other men's phones, getting pictures of their wives and shit like that. It's really fucking wild. Jeez. How humiliating for
00:43:12
Speaker
those women. I mean, and the bond is low as fuck though. It's only $5,000 for the set of new charges and was set at 7,500 for the previous case. they don't They don't think he's going to flee the country. Yeah, I don't think he's much of a flight risk, I guess. So what is he being charged with?
00:43:29
Speaker
ah ah um I'm not sure what the specific charges. sneakery yeah I mean, i I don't know what the kind of charges you would get for that are. um This is ah this was just a real brief article about the um ah the secondary set of charges. I could do some more digging and discuss this in greater detail on our next episode. Look at the original charges, but um he's a little creepo. Another megachurch pastor.
00:44:01
Speaker
goes creepo you know he thought he was so slick that he figured out how to do that he felt like a hacker he was like and we know that that's like probably a good feeling like any everyone loves the idea of being a hacker i think ah or maybe it's just a white male thing it's possible but i feel like when you watch any any show or movie with like CIA shit or ah like hacktivist type things you're just like you're it's super it's just intriguing because it's a language that people don't understand at all like oh you just type these symbols into a computer and you gain access to the entire world it's crazy it's super cool
00:44:42
Speaker
ah And you know, this guy felt like such a fucking badass while he was doing it. Like that that's such a sneaky guy. And, uh, what a weird thing to find out, right? ah that Like we were friends for a long time. And it's like, you find out that like a good friend of yours has just hacked, gained access to your work. I don't even, how would he gain access to his work computer? That's super weird. There's some sort of dumb.
00:45:12
Speaker
accountability thing here or something like that, yeah you know, like he has remote access to his computer to keep him accountable or whatever. I mean, something along those lines.
00:45:24
Speaker
has to be involved. Yeah. I ah and that would it's like i think it's like 10 to 12 other people have come forward now. what <unk> that's a lot That's a lot. And I would guess it might not even stop there. um But I'm not sure how people find out. like how I don't know how anyone found out about it either. ah So I want to actually look into that too. because Maybe somebody saw a sent message or something like that that had all of them in there. Yeah, he forgot to delete sent messages. Yeah, it's the cookies, bro. It's a rookie mistake.
00:46:00
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ah yeah Well, considering this is a Sunday morning service episode, I ah i wanted to do something to close us out. And I don't know if you did this as a kid, but I feel like everyone I ever met has. Where you're in a crisis of some sort, whatever your um overly emotional teen crisis is. Maybe a girl doesn't like you even though you have feelings for her. Like, doesn't have to be serious. And you pray, and you ask for a sign from God, and you're just desperately hoping ah that things will work out for the good of those who love him. And you
00:46:38
Speaker
Maybe you start reading your Bible more because like that's how you make good things happen to you. You just have to do the things that your youth pastor told you you got to do. um And I can remember on multiple occasions when I was looking for that sign, you would just like randomly open your Bible and thumb your finger, scroll your finger across the pages with your eyes closed and stop. And then you'd open your eyes and you would read that verse and you would hope that that was, that God was leading you to what you needed to hear in that moment. Did you ever do that? Yeah, absolutely. You just kind of like hold it and hold the Bible in your, closed in your hands and you just kind of go ah ah and see what it is. And it's usually like,
00:47:26
Speaker
And so-and-so, we got so-and-so, we got so-and-so. What are you trying to tell me, Lord? It's 10 verses of lineage, you mean? Yeah. Are you telling me you want me to have a large family? So I thought it'd be fun to do that together right now and see what we come across and how the Lord's speaking into our lives, and if we get a sign.
00:47:54
Speaker
I'm down for that. I prefer to stick with the New Testament usually because I think that, uh, you know, it's generally easier to, uh, apply that to your life in a way that works for you outside, regardless of the intent or context, because that's ultimately what we're doing with this thing. Most of the time is right. You're just like, Oh, how do I read myself into the story? and yeah true ah Which is what we talked about earlier too, even, uh,
00:48:24
Speaker
it's how oh how do how do I make this about me so I don't know I don't know if you just well I could I can this is a big boy I got a big boy Bible right here look at that yeah I was trying to stick with two C's I know I've got one close by I'm trying to think of where it's oh one sec I'll grab you'll get it And I have, I think the Bible I'm working with here is, it's gotta be almost three inches thick. Well, maybe two. Sometimes I'm bad at judging inches. And I'm working off of the New Interpreter Study Bible, the New Revised Standard Version with the Apocrypha. Now we know the Apocrypha is useless and can't speak to our lives at all, but here we go. Do you want to tell me when to stop, Casey?
00:49:12
Speaker
Yep. Let's do it there. All right. Uh, oh man, we're in the Apocrypha. Fuck. you know That's what I was hoping for. We're in the book of Susanna. You just tell me when to stop. I'm moving my finger all over the page. Tell me when to stop there.
00:49:29
Speaker
All right. Then putting him to one side, he ordered them to bring the other. And he said to him, you offspring of Canaan and not of Judah, beauty has begilded you and lust has perverted your heart. See, I- It might've worked. I've been struggling.
00:49:51
Speaker
Alright, this is how you have been treating the daughters of Israel and they were intimate with you through fear. Ooh, that's intimidation. that's ah that's ba I mean, that's that's rape. Yikes. This is a message for P Diddy.
00:50:07
Speaker
but But a daughter of Judah would not tolerate your wickedness. Now then tell me under what tree? Well, okay. God already spoke to us through this. I don't need to keep going. um And i'm goingnna I'm going to read into this in a couple of different ways because we were also just speaking ill of Israel ah and and the way that they're conducting themselves globally. And I think maybe this is God trying to tell us that um we have been treating the daughters of Israel
00:50:38
Speaker
ah with maybe a level of contempt that he doesn't find appropriate for his chosen people. um So i'll I'll look at this more as a metaphor for how I talk about ah the genocide that they're ah currently enacting in the Palestinians and think
00:50:59
Speaker
how i You know, we're America, and America is clearly in the Bible. ah You have to look for it in its subtext, but it's there, trust me. And I think that, you know, we're talking about our next nation's leader and how we want them to handle what's going on in Israel. And it says right here,
00:51:22
Speaker
That, uh, they were intimate with you through fear. And I, you know, I'm afraid that that's what we need to avoid. I think that's what, uh, so I think personally, like I could have been, I should be, I'm going to go back. I'm going to become a pastor. I think I'm just going to start making shit up. Um, so basically, like if we were to personal application, personal application, uh, I'll deal with my lustful thoughts, uh, broad application. Uh, we need to elect a leader that's not going to.
00:51:50
Speaker
ah make Israel intimate with us through fear, but rather friendship, right? And I think Trump's the guy for that job because he says he is. So I got what I needed out of this, Casey. That's pretty good. Yeah. Pretty good. Divine message. I feel a little rebuked at this point. ah Like, Lord, I'm sorry that I spoke ill of the most moral military in the world.
00:52:15
Speaker
yeah luckily they like half great and exhibit yeah and like I know they drop leaflets or something before they napalm a you know children's hospital or whatever.
00:52:25
Speaker
And, uh, I don't always give them the credit they deserve for those, those slight gestures. Those leaflets said you need to leave before we carpet bomb your ass. And, uh, it, look, yeah, they only had 35 seconds, but they didn't even hustle, you know? And I think that's. Yeah. And who else but Netanyahu, the Supreme Leader, you know, ordained by God.
00:52:48
Speaker
gives a a targeted address to the Lebanese people in English, telling them to overthrow Hezbollah before he kills them all. I mean, you know, it's kind of like ah I'm going to close my eyes and count to 10. Yeah. And then go. What is it, Professor? With your fingers cracked.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yeah, I feel ashamed and ah you know what? I will endeavor to do better, oh, Lord. Well, maybe he will speak to you. through your uh your little journey here you got a bible right you found it i didn't find a bible but i do have another message that i'd like to share with you kind of enclosed in here oh i thought you're gonna flip through your pocket constitution you should have i can i can flip for you i can flip for me okay for me all right
00:53:45
Speaker
So this one will be for you, right? i'll I'll call the verse, but we're going to assume that it applies to your life. No, to your life. I already applied the one to my life. Oh. Well, I feel like I'm double dipping now. Why? i don I don't want any more than one moral moral rebuke at a time.
00:54:05
Speaker
you okay so you've you felt like see that's that's all you know i think the word the the lord is stirring your heart right now brother because you're you're being you are being convicted by the holy spirit and when i was i was just reading the good word of the lord and it was uh the word that has convicted you i was convicted too uh so i thought it was for me uh but I guess that's what's so what's so beautiful about this book. It can be anything to anybody at any time whenever they need it. Yeah. And I think it's a sign of like spiritual maturity that you can find, you know, the the you can figure out how to apply every possible message to yourself. All right. Tell me when to stop. Stop. All right. Now tell me when to stop. Stop. All right. Then King Hezekiah. We're in Second Chronicles here.
00:55:00
Speaker
i personal Chapter 32. Then King Hezekiah and the prophet Isaiah son of Amos prayed because of this and cried to heaven. And we don't get to know what this is so we get to apply our own meaning because we're not going backwards. We're reading from where my finger landed. And the Lord sent an angel who cut off all the mighty warriors and commanded and commanders and officers in the camp of the king of Assyria. So he returned in disgrace to his own land when he came into the house of God. Some of his own sons struck him down there with the sword. So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of King Sennacherib of Assyria.
00:55:44
Speaker
Sennacherib of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies he gave them rest on every side. Many brought gifts to the Lord in Jerusalem and precious things to King Hezekiah of Judah so that he was exalted in the sight of all nations from that time onward. Yeah so as far as the this at the beginning of the passage I want to say that it was like a bad omen, and if I remember, right King Hezekiah went to charge his phone and the cable was frayed. Okay. Yeah, that that mean that's a bad sign. i had
00:56:23
Speaker
I know what that's like. I have a, uh, auxiliary cord in my car, uh, because I don't have Bluetooth in it cause it's old. And the little port that I plug into my phone, my last phone, it was, uh, it didn't have a good connection. So sometimes when I'd go over a bump, it would stop and I'd have to re wiggle the wire. So I get it. That'd make me very angry.
00:56:47
Speaker
Yeah, it was infuriating. i so I would scream a lot in my car trying to make sure that it didn't, like I had to get it just right and lean my phone in the right spot so it didn't loosen up. It was, so I know what it's like to get a ah ah to have one of those bad omens like that. ah I'm struggling to apply this passage ah to our life right now. I feel like uh, politically speaking, we can connect it there again, right. Um, with our unwavering support of Israel, I'm not super worried about my kids murdering me at this point, but I do still have enough time to fuck them up. Uh, so I'll take that as a warning from the Lord that I will, um, you know, live by his commandments so that, uh, my children, my children don't kill me.
00:57:42
Speaker
yeah Yeah, it seems like a good policy. i I'll agree right now is just sort of a sign of commitment to this passage and its truth. I will name my second child Sennacherib. Okay. can't Can't promise the first one though because he's already committed to being Scipio Africanus. What's that? Where did that come from? He was like a Roman guy.
00:58:09
Speaker
oh i was like is this ah is that I wasn't sure if you had like a long-running joke about what you're going to name your first child if it was some sort of like inside joke with friends, but you just pulled that one out of your ass. That's nice. i I've been listening to Dan Carlin for breakfast each morning. so Okay. brush my mind ah This is October, Halloween's coming up. I want to do a more formal, fun poll of, ah you know, why Christians shouldn't celebrate Halloween. I just didn't get, ah I wasn't happy with the clips and stuff that I found today, but I did want to just, I wanted to read you a couple of these like posts.
00:58:55
Speaker
from Coro. So this is actually, so I figured where better to go for information on how Christian should feel about Halloween than bit shoot. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. So if you're not familiar with bit shoot, it is like the it's, it's info, info wars let itself go.
00:59:14
Speaker
Yeah, it is wild stuff. It's a it's out there and it's a favorite among conspiracy theory people and stuff like that. But in bit shoot, is it like obviously info wars is curated by, you know, the the people involved with info wars. Is bit shoot one of those ones where any person can ah get things posted? like You can submit? I think so. I think it's kind of like a YouTube run amok.
00:59:39
Speaker
Okay. So I, this, I bit shoot is one step down from rumble. So if that tells you anything, but I was, I was looking through all these like video thumbnails, you know, trying to find stuff to, to, to pull. And I noticed a trend that I think holds fast here. Basically like the more words that are used in the thumbnail of a video, the more unhinged it is. I agree with that.
01:00:08
Speaker
So I found a few that had big block text. I was going to say all caps is another indicator. This guy did use a ah mix of punctuation. Um, it's the accounts called Christian Rapture. And here, let me read you a couple of these.
01:00:24
Speaker
Um, the title, the title of this video is Halloween and Valentine's day and groundhog day, part two, former seventh generation high, which exposes Illuminati NWO pedophile cannibal Satanist pagan origins of holidays that pastors use to make money and recruit church members, which feed black magic energy to release millions of COVID-19 human extermination vaccine, fallen angels. Whoa, that's incredible. That's so many buzzwords. can Is that too many characters to be the title of this episode?
01:00:59
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ah Just endlessly scrolling across your yeah screen. I want to steal that for this. That's perfect. Here's another one of his. Former top New Age Wicca witch who ruled over the millions of Earth's hidden matriarchal rulers of the Illuminati NWO exposes how pastors are feeding black magic energy to the mass child rape and torture and sacrifice and cannibalism of thousands of children on Christmas and Easter and Halloween and other satanic holidays.
01:01:28
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i That video probably wouldn't last long on YouTube. I don't think you get, uh, I think your number of hits gets limited when you put rape in the title of your video. and it's that Even though it doesn't factor into the above sentence, there is a block below the paragraph title that says Krampus and Satan Claus.
01:01:55
Speaker
Last one. um Women's head coverings rebel. Pastors defend mass child sacrifice ritual Christmas and Easter and Halloween because it is time to make huge donations from services and concerts and parties and movies and children's activities and recruit new church members and to release thousands of COVID-19 demons to exterminate the human species. That was a lot for one breath.
01:02:21
Speaker
it's And these are all over an hour long, so. Oh my god. It's just the ramblings of a madman. It's like Bill Burr's Monday Morning Podcast, but this guy. Or it's just like one guy into a mic. i don't ah when they When people start talking about child sacrifice and shit like that, you're just like,
01:02:44
Speaker
You really think that's being under reported like that there's actual child sacrifice at like in mass quantities going on And you're the only one who knows about it Yeah, and you're taking it to him by posting your video on on bitch shoot that has 300 views Let's just jump to the middle of one of these and just see what he's talking about There's one Hang on, I'm not playing their advertisement. Oh, the advertisements on BitShooter are nuts too. It's like like this lighter has been banned from Home Depot.
01:03:20
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Every single thing is like that. It's like see the the covered organizer that the New World Order doesn't want you to have.
01:03:33
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Oh, spooky music to start out with. I'm just going to jump to the middle here. He's I'm not sure what's happening, but he's burning a ah Pringles can in the thumbnail. OK.
01:03:46
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Then afterwards, they would um call upon their God, one of their first gods known as... Is that Baphomet, the Wicker Man? One thing I i forgot to mention, if they didn't have enough room inside the Wicker Man to put all their human sacrifice offering, they had human um cages made out of wicker where they could put the respite. Wicker, like basket? Mr. Man. Yeah, did you never see the Wicker Man No. is ah There was an original one and then there was like a Nicolas Cage remake when we were kids. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that. It's the one that you see the clip from once in a while where it's like Nicolas Cage and he's like, no, not the bees! Not the bees! And they're like dumping bees in a cage with him in there. Like the boo box from ah Hook.
01:04:40
Speaker
yeah Dude, that movie rules. Recently rewatched it. It's awesome. It does. It holds up. And dude, I remember as a kid watching the boo box part and being genuinely freaked out by it. Oh, you made a boo boo. The boo box. Time to go in the boo box. Dude, the one part that made me like laugh uncontrollably was There's a scene where he and where Captain Hook and Smee are like in the in the galley and he's like got all this food laid out and Smee is going through and making him a plate and he's like trying trying each piece of food before he puts it on the plate. and ah I forget what they're talking about or something, but Smee goes,
01:05:27
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cat I think I just had an apostrophe. He's I think you mean a lobotomy, Smee.
01:05:39
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It's so good. Classic film. I watched it with my kids a little while back, but long enough ago where they probably don't remember it, I should throw that one on for a movie night. It's with the kids. Ryan Williams is amazing. ah Rest in peace.
01:05:54
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Well, thank you for joining us for this Sunday morning edition of Growing Up Christian. We hope that you found the message ah uplifting and enlightening and go forth and be a blessing into your communities. And we will talk to you next time.