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Player Positions Preview - MIDFIELDERS feat Stevie Fizz from the Draft Doctors #PODPOD
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This episode kicks off the player positions with the big dogs, the MIDFIELDERS. Previously, the midfielders have been the most important players, putting up the scores that were often relied upon for coaches as their captain and vice captains. However, last season saw a drop in midfielder scores, with only one player scoring above 110. An outlier, or a change in the way the AFL is being played? Who knows! But what we do know, because of this many of our midfield premiums seem to present upside and value
On this episode, two-time top 10 finisher Harmey and special guest Steve Fizz from The Draft Doctors join Holmesy as they discuss a whole bunch of midfield premiums. Each co-host brings three premiums up for discussion, before they answer a stack of listener requests. With 2025 seeming as if we have cash to spend up in the midfield, the decisions on who to start could be crucial in getting off to a flier in AFL Fantasy. This episode is not to be missed!
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Transcript
Introduction to the 2025 AFL Fantasy Season
00:00:19
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Podpod. It's your boy, Homsey, here talking all things AFL fantasy classic for you live on this Monday, 6th of January. That's right, the first show for 2025. The fantasy season has officially kicked off and we have a big one today. We are starting off our positional previews, starting with the midfielders going all the way to the top. As always, I've got two-time top 10 finisher with me, Hami on Deck. Hami, mate, how's your how was you Christian years?
00:00:47
Jon Harmey
Yeah, really good, Holmsey. I had a good break. Just back at work today. And it was nice to sit down and have a look at a few players and punch in a draft, you know, initial team into the app. So we're away. Fantasy 2025.
00:01:04
Holmesy
Gee, back at work already, mate. Can I convince you on the the teaching lifestyle?
Guest Introduction: Stevie Fizz
00:01:08
Holmesy
I don't think I'd go back until the 3rd of February, so no no interest.
00:01:11
Jon Harmey
yeah Yeah, if I could talk to my 18-year-old self, I would have been saying that. I think most people would.
00:01:19
Holmesy
And we have a special guest on today, the golfing greens extraordinaire, Stevie Fizz, fresh off the golf course. Thanks for joining us today, mate. There's there's no Louis, so you're you're plugging a pretty big hole for us. But how are you going at the moment being, you know, into full swings with the draft doctors?
00:01:38
steve
Yeah, thanks for having me mate. Yeah, it's it's it's busy season, obviously pretty pretty busy out on the golf course and ranking season, getting the draft
Rebranding The Draft Doctors?
00:01:47
steve
kit ready. it's been it's There's a lot going on as well as was the the kids, as as you know, having kids is a full-time job in itself, but it's great to have the pod pod in my ears when I'm sitting on the mower, just keeping me entertained as we while away the day.
00:02:04
Holmesy
Ah, thanks mate. Appreciate that. It has been pretty tough. Do we call you the draft doctors anymore? Is it is it just the draft doctor all by yourself?
00:02:12
steve
Yeah, try it. It's kind of funny when you're writing out the show um notes in the podcast thing and I tend to just say we like the Royal we it's yeah, it's it's funny. I don't know whether to rebrand or not. It's I don't want to I don't want to I sort of have this idea in my mind that you know, one of the boys with someone will come back and you know, I want to do the job again and you know, it will all go back to the way it was but it won't.
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00:02:37
Jon Harmey
You've got a legacy though, don't show you? You've got to uphold, respect the traditions too.
00:02:42
steve
Yeah, well that that and Dossie's always in my ear about the SEO. So, you know, you can't you can't go ruining that.
00:02:49
Holmesy
All I think every time one of your podcasts comes on, Stevie, and the intro comes on, and ah it introduces all the boys, and I'm just thinking, you're a fraud, mate. Where are they?
00:03:00
steve
Yeah, that was, I remember we cop so much hate over the not getting it changed when like Cam and that were on. And then, um yeah, Chris, one of our listeners was just into us every week and I'm like, man, I'm not doing, someone mentioned that and and he piped in and said, don't, don't even start, don't even start.
00:03:20
Holmesy
I suppose you do hate new listeners. So any, any new person tuning in for the first time would hear that and and then just hear you and think, nah, nah, I'm out. I'm not doing this. So it's perfect.
00:03:29
steve
Yeah, it is. It is. Although I'm softening on the new listeners. I think I'm going after the WA listeners this year. You're all, I don't know. What's going on with these WA people, mate? You want the, they wanted the listener leg. I said, okay,
Goals for the 2025 Fantasy Season
00:03:40
steve
I'll come over. I'll spend the money. Fly to the other side of the world. No one's entering. Frauds.
00:03:46
Jon Harmey
Surely there's a few Mike Whitney's out there.
00:03:49
steve
There's been a couple. There's been a couple.
00:03:50
Jon Harmey
like Who doesn't?
00:03:51
steve
I've been praying for us. We need more. We need more. My goodness.
00:03:56
Holmesy
So it's going to be all-time elite banter when you come over and yeah you're here with four people, Steve. So I'll see what I'm doing that day if I can get away from the kids.
00:04:05
steve
yeah thanks
00:04:05
Jon Harmey
Surely you can get a black curly wig homesy and put your hand up.
00:04:11
Holmesy
Yeah, look, I might i might have to. we'll We'll see how we go. But Stevie, thanks for jumping on. As I mentioned, we're going to do our midfielder pod today, ah premiums and underpriced premiums. So thanks for all the listeners that got your requests in.
00:04:23
Holmesy
We're going to tackle all the mid prices and the rookies at a later date when ah some of the more roll changes become more evident and and stuff like that. So strictly premiums and underpriced premiums today.
00:04:32
steve
Yeah, thanks, man.
00:04:33
Holmesy
But before we kick off, Hami, I'm going to throw to you, what is one of your goals for 2025? What are you hoping to get out of this season?
00:04:42
Jon Harmey
I always start the season aiming to be top 100. So there you go, Hamsy. There's my goal for the season.
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00:04:50
Jon Harmey
It's bombed the last few years, but I think that's what a lot of people probably aspire to this time of year, don't they?
00:04:57
Jon Harmey
In classic.
00:04:58
Holmesy
Yeah, so top 100, that would give you your third hat and would put you in pretty illustrious company. I think Selby might be the only one with three hats. Happy to be corrected wrong there. Stevie, what's what's your goal now? It was interesting when I messaged you to to come onto the pod and you said, oh, I should probably start looking looking at some prices like you haven't been twiddling with your team since October when you first created a spreadsheet. But what's your goal for Classic this year?
00:05:23
steve
I would say not to fall away. ah I started out pretty well, like i last year's probably the first year in a... I've really had a crack at having a decent ranking and I started off pretty well, but I just, uh, made some maybe risky moves that were ill-advised through the midway point of the season, hung onto guys who were underperforming, who I backed into far too long. So maybe just not dropping out of the race completely. I'll put it that way.
00:05:54
Jon Harmey
I tell you what, that that's always trading and um and that the looping on field with non-playing players, that's really changed things the last few years and those that have been successful have have been those coaches that have been really good at it. What about you, Holmesy? What's your goal for the year, you didn't say?
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00:06:13
Holmesy
Yeah, that's just before you. That's a great point. I mean, I hope that's become a little bit more evident in some of the homes files episodes that I've been doing. And it's definitely something I'm trying to to get better at because you're right. the The game has completely changed from when me and you were competing, when there was the fixed lockouts and not the rolling lockouts and 23, 24 premiums and and whatnot. So there there definitely is a different way to play the game now. and I do have a very special guest coming on the the homes files this week that i'll I'll sort of tease a little bit, and I'm sure we're going to deep dive into the the nitty gritty of the strategy and how the blueprints changed as well. But my my goal, Army, I'm calling it now, it's Holmes' redemption. ah So it's going to be my redemption year. Ever since I got on the podcast, I've ah i've dropped off a bit and it hasn't been easy, but I'm calling it now. It's going to be a good year. I'm just trying to put a bit of respect back on my name. I'd love a ah third hat, but
00:07:05
Holmesy
um I just need to to get back up the ranks because the last couple of years haven't been as as good as I'd like. Let's put it that way.
00:07:12
Jon Harmey
do Do you feel as though um the Dossie curse has shifted from the Dow brothers to you and I?
00:07:19
Holmesy
Mate, 100% and that's why I'm hoping a full pre-season without Dossie in my ER. I mean, I have ah been listening to him a little bit on the Super Coach podcast. I should probably stop, but I think if we can get through this year without any Dossie influence, I think the curse might finally
Midfield Premium Players Deep Dive
00:07:36
Holmesy
be lifted. Steve, what do you think about that?
00:07:41
steve
I think it's just, ah he's talking you're stuck in your old ways, mate. You're not up with the new school.
00:07:46
Holmesy
Yeah, well, you know, you know the Dossy Curse more than anyone else. I don't know how you managed to work with him for so long. But anyway, let's get starting. So, Hami, what we're going to do, we've got three players each that we're going to sort of deep dive in and discuss, and then we've got a whole bunch of listener player requests as well, Hami. So why don't you kick us off with your first midfield premium that you're looking to potentially target in 2025?
00:08:09
Jon Harmey
Okay, i'll um I'll start with somebody, and we we did a draft team. We we drafted ah a classic starting team a few weeks ago, Holmes, and that was a bit of fun, and I ah threw somebody out there, and Louis and yourself shot him down. That's Christian Petrarca, still sitting at 7.7% ownership at the minute.
00:08:30
Jon Harmey
But the thing is, I sort of over the break, I wrote down who ah you know I think could be um the starting midfielders for each team. With Melbourne being one of the weaker teams potentially, I think that this is going to stick pretty strong with Petrarca, Oliver Varney and the Rivers.
00:08:48
Jon Harmey
And I think that bodes well because last year he got thrown around a little bit and he comes in averaged, it priced an average of 90. But the years before that, I mean, he went 106, 103, 111, like this is a guy that could very well average over 100 for the season. And if he's putting in a sound pre-season, someone I'm quite interested in.
00:09:12
Holmesy
Steve, does a ah Melbourne decline scare you a little bit off someone like a Christian Petrarca? I mean, you take out his injured game last year, he averaged 95. It seemed that, you know, Melbourne were dropping off and because of that, he was required a little bit more forward and he was finding it a lot tougher to get the ball. And if you did go into the midfield, the tag issue is always there. What are your thoughts on a Petrarca?
00:09:35
steve
Oh, when I opened my team, like when I opened the app, I just did a quick team and I thought, and I just put in who stuck out as value. Just five minute team who stuck out as the best value from highest price to lowest. And Petrarcha was in there because he stands out. I like the player. He scores in a number of ways. The role is king. If you're going to bounce back, ah I don't have a problem with it.
00:10:01
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah, he's he's definitely shown it in terms of he's got pedigree. He's in a team now that he's going to be relied on as as one of the main guys. that That would be my only concern is that Melbourne very clearly dropped away last year. Was that because he wasn't there in the back half of the year? Are they going to change their system a little bit? Who knows?
00:10:20
Holmesy
um But I would just be a little bit worried. They went from what, two years ago, they had Vaini, Petrarca and Oliver all go over 100. And then this year they didn't have a midfield at average over 90. Well, Petrarca was at just above 90. So is it is it game style? Is it cattle? I'm not too sure. But yeah, don't mind that. Harmin, he's definitely someone I'm considering and watching in the preseason. Steve, who are you going to kick us off with?
00:10:42
steve
Oh, my number one midfielder, like I mentioned, doing the rankings. I've got Nick Daikos at the top of the tree. I think it's a really easy pick to make, 104 average last year. And the reason I like it is what's happened to Collingwood's back line. So if you're one of the top disposal winners in the game,
00:11:01
steve
um over 30 touches, you're basically going to average, you should average over a hundred and probably closer to 110. Collingwood fell from mid table to dead last in marks per game. And you think about who they had and they couldn't score out of the back line. They were one of the worst teams at scoring from the defensive half. They addressed that, went out and got one of the premier ball movers off half back, if you like, in Dan Houston. So any return to some sort of mid table
00:11:33
steve
average for for marks per game. If Daikos gets one of those, ah maybe he gets half a tackle a game, with a mark comes a possession. He's 110 plus very, very easily. If there's anything on top of that, it's even better. So I find it really hard to assign players a 110 average um just in terms of, oh, he did this good or he can do this good. I think with this case, it's really, really clear.
00:12:01
steve
how the improvement in his average comes via what the team has done.
00:12:08
Holmesy
Just a bit off the cuff here, Steve, just because I know you're someone who loves to jump into your team stats and and and into the real nitty gritty. Do you think last year was a bit of an outlier with only having one midfielder average 110? And do you think we're going to see the return of these players that that push that mark quite significantly? Or do you think the game might have changed a little bit in terms of these distributors off half back and trying to play that slingshot footy where the midfield kind of get skipped over a bit?
00:12:35
steve
Yeah,
Importance of Starting Strong
00:12:36
steve
it's it's a great question and I don't think there's any right answer, but I will say I think ah the 110 midfielder isn't dead, but with fewer tackles, ah you're probably going to see fewer 110s over the years. like I was doing a bit of a dive on how you know what a 30 plus touch average looks like and there was a lot of 110 plus, 120 plus midfielders as frequently as five years ago. so It's um yeah, I don't think it's dead, but it's certainly something to keep an eye on.
00:13:11
Holmesy
Hami as the the classic man and not the draft man, is Nick Daikos someone we could start with that early season by? He he has the round three by where we've got a lot of popular players, especially in the back line. Is Nick Daikos someone you've looked at?
00:13:25
Jon Harmey
Yeah, well, when I um when ah i did my five minute team on the app, as Steve sort of spoke to, I had Nick Dacos in as my M1 originally. i'll just And look, when you go back through the stats, there's no good reason um why he got 104 instead of 114 last year. There's no injured stuff really. um He had a great role. I just feel as though he's just about the best fantasy player in the game, good inside, outside game. He loves the pill.
00:13:55
Jon Harmey
um So, but the reason I have gone cold really is that early buy at the moment I'm trying to set up um with next to no early buy players if I can and then if they pop a big score in round zero then I can make make some changes and bring them in.
00:14:15
Holmesy
Yeah, I think one of the things that also scares me off about Nick Daikos having a look at the early run and clearly the data is not going to be as accurate as we need it to be, having just basing it off last year's scores. But Colling would have one of the toughest runs to open up ah the year. I think they have in round one, they play Hawthorne early, I think. So they got Port Adelaide round one.
00:14:37
Holmesy
Round two they have, ah where are we, the Western Bulldogs, which isn't the toughest, but then they go into their buy. So you'd really need Daikos to come out with some skillings ceiling scores and you'd think there's probably a tag from Port Adelaide coming round one, which ah might mean that you're in a bit of strife early with the cash, but no doubt Nick Daikos has huge potential and and has the all the tools to be the number one scorer in the game.
00:14:59
Holmesy
ummi
00:15:00
Jon Harmey
that round zero if he yeah So they got GWS in round zero, so he could potentially get Toby Bedford if he's running that tagging role again this year.
00:15:10
Holmesy
Yeah, well, there you go. Potentially two out of three tags to to start. And who knows, it might not eventuate, but ah definitely around zero watch. My first player, um been a bit of the talk already this preseason. A a lot of the podcasts are are on this guy, but Andy Brayshaw priced at about 104 after back to back years of 110, 112. So he has the has the pedigree. um there was There was talk that he was playing a little bit injured um to start the year and post by when it ah close to 108. So there's ah about four points of upside there and and puts him close to being one of the top midfielders.
00:15:48
Holmesy
With Sorong getting the attention these days and Freo hopefully taking a step up, potentially we'd hope that he could go back to those sort of one 10 days. I do kind of worry that now that Hayden Young is in that midfield, ah the whole market share idea of, you know, as Freo get better, does Brayshore not need to to do as much? Or when they get better, can they go better? I'm not too sure, Steve, but what are you thinking about Andy Brayshore? Do you think he could be there the M1 and at that price, be the highest scoring player in the competition?
00:16:17
steve
Well, he's in the conversation. Absolutely. He's a fantastic player. He's a top tier midfielder for me. um It's just whether he can, you know, like I said, it all works out and clicks and and he goes to the top. I got no doubt he can.
00:16:32
Holmesy
He also has a ah fantastic run to start the year. So he starts off with Geelong at GMHBA, which Geelong were traditionally pretty good for midfielders. And then as Sydney, which is a bit tougher, but then goes Eagles, Bulldogs, Richmond, and then Melbourne. So probably as as good a run as you could get for inside midfielders to start the first six rounds. And that's what we need from our premiums to start. We just need a huge, huge start so that the cash gets going. And then everyone else is trying to jump to these players when we've locked in the scores. Army, but what do you think about Andy Brayshaw?
00:17:01
Jon Harmey
look ah yeah Yeah, he's a very good pick. I mean, um out of those top-end guys, I think he's as good as any. Similar to Daikos, he's got a good inside-out. So a game, he's a good runner. So he's going to find space, doesn't just rely on those CBAs to get his points up. So yeah, I
GWS Midfield Setup Analysis
00:17:20
Jon Harmey
think he's a good pick. And as you sort of said, Sorong should really get the tag. So um yeah, I can see why you'd be attracted to him.
00:17:31
Holmesy
Beautiful, Hami, why don't you give us your second plier?
00:17:34
Jon Harmey
Okay, um another guy that's, I guess, similar to what you have just said, probably slipped down the tagging order at Port Adelaide. ah He's Connor Rosie. He's got 11.5% ownership at the moment. And there was just periods last year where he was playing injured.
00:17:54
Jon Harmey
He came out and smashed, I think I started with him last year and he killed the first five rounds, and put some really big scores. He's got a ceiling, he's got ah you know he hit 147 last year and he's got two injured scores um in there. So no early buy, I think um he should maintain his key role in the midfield there with Port Adelaide and you know um if he can sort of stay injury free, there's no reason why he can't be over 100 average for the season.
00:18:26
Holmesy
Steve, in your draft kit research, if you've got to Port Adelaide, I'm not sure, but how do you see the the Port Adelaide midfield lining up this year? Because they they went to a very clear five this year with Ollie Wines returning into the side. So Rosie, Butters, Wines, Drew, and then Jason Horn-Francis was in there as well. The whole market share idea. Do you think Port Adelaide has room for two sort of 105 plus midfielders with that tight five man rotation, considering we assume Butters is going to keep doing what Butters is going to do?
00:18:57
steve
It's really interesting that I kind of like Rosie. I don't see any reason why they'd change. I like Rosie in the same way I like Tim Toreno in that he's going to be in the midfield. Um, but he's not, like he's not really that, that great, is he? Like he turns it over a bit. He can find it a bunch of different ways. If someone's going to kill you, it's Butters, it's Horned Francis. It's not Rosie. Like he might do it every now and again, right? But it's probably the other guy. So if I'm an opposition coach,
00:19:25
steve
i If I was playing an unaccountable midfielder, they'd go to Rosie and they'd probably both just rack it up.
00:19:31
Jon Harmey
isn't that Isn't that like um all the best fantasy scorers? That's what we've seen, you know, like Dain Swan, like, yeah, Mitch Attich, you know, like they they're never the, clipt like the pinpoint cleanest, but they sort of seem to rack up and yeah.
00:19:41
Holmesy
Gonna cry.
00:19:51
Holmesy
Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind Rosie. I just am a little bit skeptical. um It's not our forward podcast, but if you're picking a Jason Horn Francis because you think he's going to go and take his game from 90 to 95, 100, whatever it is, there's just only so many points to go around. But if there's an indication in the preseason that a ah wines is going to be out of the side or or playing a different role or or even a Drew, I think I'd be all aboard Rosie. I just think With that midfield, how it changed from the year gone by, where when Butters and Rosie both went well, Wines wasn't there. I think they've just changed their game plan a little bit. But he's definitely someone I'm keen to watch. And I do love him. I started him last year with at 106 with Yihami. So I ah definitely like the like the pick. Steve, who's your second player?
00:20:35
steve
It's a good question. I'll have to just let that show. So I've actually got a pod for you. 1% pod pod. Steve Canelio. So again, this is where I um run into trouble is there's just so many of the guys I like on this buy. Steve Canelio.
00:20:52
steve
Um, I think he's an interesting player because people will have a bias against Steve Canelano because he's, he tended to get injured a bit in the past, like he did last year. Uh, prior to last year, he's put together 46 games in the previous two seasons. He's locked into the midfield. There's, you know, they're not going to move him out of the inside midfield because there's not many other options. I don't think, um,
00:21:16
steve
He can score inside, he can score outside, he's a good tackler, he can find space, he can push forward to kick a goal. There's no way he's playing forward with all their small forwards they've got. He's had his shoulder surgery, ah the facial thing at the end of the year.
00:21:30
steve
That's bad luck more than like a recurring hamstring or anything like that. So I've got no doubt, Steve Canilio will be locked into that GWS midfield. At the first CBA, he printed Vince massive value to anyone selecting him. The only question will be, Tom Green is going to be super highly owned. um Nick Dacos, like so many of these guys, where does Steve Canilio fit into that and can you start him as well?
00:21:57
Holmesy
I suppose the interesting thing is so pre-buy he had 78% of the CBAs and then post-buy he was 57%. Now, the question we need to ask is clearly that was because of injury. a Some of it would have been because of injury, but that's also coincides when Toby Bedford went into the midfield and became that full-time tagger. So if Toby Bedford is going to continue in that role,
00:22:20
Holmesy
and eat up 80% of the CBAs because he's tagging the best midfielder. If we expect Tom Green to be going 70 to 80% as well, that means then you're you're putting Canelio, Kelly, Callahan and whoever else shaking your head, Stevie.
00:22:33
steve
but Kelly and Callahan don't play in there. They don't play in there. They play outside mostly.
00:22:38
Jon Harmey
yeah Yeah, yeah, look.
00:22:40
Holmesy
yeah Josh Kelly still had on last year's data 50% of the CBA's pre-buy and then what post-buy he wasn't in it, but then in the finals he averaged 46% as well. So I'm not sure they're quite done with Kelly, but you are right. He should be playing midfield. ah I just think the Bedford inclusion changes things a little bit. We don't see too many full-time taggers in the midfield these days. And that just eats up a lot of a lot of time, but who knows they might go away from that this year. So it's a pre-season watch army.
00:23:09
Jon Harmey
Yeah, Pete Legan was taking up a few of those CBAs at the back end of the season too, when they were trying to retain him, they were trying to suck up to him a bit, I think. But I quite like Cogs, like his price at 76, there's a few, like there's a Will Day, there's a Cherro, like there's a few around that price point that are um definitely worth a look. The thing with him is he he seems to get injured quite a lot and he's 31 so I think the GWS will play him in the midfield so I think he should go up in value and he's under priced but that buy again does really um put me off a bit.
00:23:48
Holmesy
Yeah, look, ah I've got a soft spot for Cogs. I've had him many times over his journey. I just yeah i just want to say that GWS midfield and see him fit and healthy, but no no doubt he should be under priced
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00:24:00
Holmesy
on that 76. It'd be pretty hard for him to to not put at least 15 points on that average um if he was a full-time midfielder. and and healthy. and And with that, I'll switch over to his Giants teammate, Tom Green. Now, I just I need to talk about him. Steve, you put out that interesting stat on Twitter. Was it today or yesterday about Tom Green being the only player to average more than 30 disposals, but not average 100 fantasy points? Did you find that interesting?
00:24:26
steve
Yeah, no, I loved it. it should it just should The only way should be up, right?
00:24:31
Holmesy
Yeah, well, I mean, you take the injured seven out, which we're allowed to do, apparently. And there's a 104 there. And everyone could see that when he did come straight back off that ankle injury, that he wasn't right. He wasn't able to cover the ground as well as what he normally does. And the scores were a little bit lower, I suppose. Mitch from the ball boys put it out there that he's so obviously the tag target now for GWS. And with that midfield,
00:24:58
Holmesy
you know, if you can stop Tom Green, you go a long way to beating GWS. But, Hami, what can you can you, can you honestly see Tom Green as being the highest averaging player in the comp, or do you think he's more that sort of inside midfielder that you might have the year out of the box to get to that 108, but he's more of a Patrick Cripp style in an under player?
00:25:20
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I think I've sort of changed. I don't know if i if I'm um jaded by the fact that I brought him in that week. He got the seven last year, but I just look at him and think, oh well sorry, you're talking about the real top-end guys, right? So you're Breshawn and the day costs. I just feel that they've got more a more well-rounded fantasy game. I do feel like Tom Green He's a little bit one-dimensional and he's not as fast as those other guys. So he really relies on the clearance and he's a bit handball happy. So I'm not sure whether he can be the number one scorer in the game at the moment.
00:25:58
Holmesy
i just I just say the number one scorer because if you are paying 100 for a player, you got to be pretty confident that they're going to be able to push it with the best. You know, ah going from 100 to 105, it is a good pick, but you'd really be hoping that they they get right up there. And he had the year of 108 and he seemed like he was getting more marks around the ground and had a little bit more of an outside game. But then last year, it didn't seem like GWS wanted to play that way and pretty hard to get the outside ball when Whitfield was was taking all of it. but if if they're going to play that way off the half back and then just slingshot it forward through the ah through the tsunami, then Tom Green is just an interesting one. i just um i'm not I'm on the fence at the moment, but I think the early bye probably turns me off at least. I can have ah have a watch and see how he goes early days. Hami, can you give me a third player, please?
00:26:47
Jon Harmey
Okay, and I think Steve might have mentioned it earlier, but Tim Taranto, he just is the guy that should always be around the ball this season. It should be him and Hopper, and they've only two real midfielders that they've got. And I just can see myself starting with Taranto and just see him kicking the ball off the ground, getting those scrubby plus trees, and I just love it as a fantasy coach.
00:27:13
Jon Harmey
So again, Richmond, they've been dumped from the round zero games because they're not going to be very good. So no early buy for them, which is a plus. He comes in priced on an average of 96. And look, he had some poor scores last a year. He missed a lot of games, um but he still hit 145 as a season high. So he's got a ceiling. um But if you look back, so last year average of 96,
00:27:40
Jon Harmey
um The year before that, 112, then it goes 96, 108, and there's a 113 in there. So he certainly could be over 100. And I know, Holmsey, you have said in a previous pod that we did that he's got to have a really high market share in order to get over 100. But if it's not Hopper, who is it at Richmond? Like he should have the number one market share um at the Tigers this season.
00:28:09
Holmesy
Yeah, well, that that was just the point that I was making is that his market share last year was up there with some of the best midfielders in the comp and for him to be a good pick at that price with assuming Richmond really dropping off with their fantasy scoring, we saw it last year
Debate on Player Picks and Strategies
00:28:22
Holmesy
that he would need to have a ah season like we've seen in the past where Rory Laird was the only one at Adelaide and Jack Steele was the only one at St Kilda. I think Jared Lyons was the only one at Brisbane that was really, really scoring, even though Brisbane were a little bit higher at the time. So it's just It's going to take something special and he's definitely got it in him. Like Steve said, hes he's never going to get a tag. He can just do whatever he likes. He loves a cuddle. I suppose just the injury concern is always going to be there and the scores with and without Hopper are are always pretty stark as well. My computer's not loading at the moment, but last year, Taranto was 25 points better when Hopper wasn't in the side and I'm pretty sure the data from the year before shows something pretty similar as well. so
00:29:02
Holmesy
Hopper can never get on the park anyway, so not sure that's a huge issue, but it's just something to monitor. But he's sitting in my team at the moment, I think, of all the the midfielders priced in the mid 90s. He's the one that has the ability to to really push it up. We've seen him go over 110 in the past and it's going to take something special. But, Steve, your thoughts on Hopper before we move on. Toronto, sorry.
00:29:22
steve
Yeah, I'm really torn on Toronto. I don't know what to do with him because I love the player. I love his fantasy game, but I also remember the demons under Mark Neild and when they just went the full play the kids and they were God awful. I think their highest score was average like 82. So you, you know, you mentioned the market share thing, which is, is nice. Um, it's, I don't know what to do. I expect this team to get blown off the park most weeks. So I don't know what they're going to do, man.
00:29:51
steve
You know, everyone's saying, oh, you know, this is a great idea. Do this rebuild. I find it incredibly brave from the people who make these decisions because they get sacked before it ever comes good.
00:30:04
Jon Harmey
True.
00:30:04
Holmesy
Yeah. And, uh, who the Richmond coach has already had two years in the job, hasn't he? Or close to it? Or was it one year?
00:30:11
steve
ah One, one year.
00:30:11
Jon Harmey
Yeah, is anyone here?
00:30:11
Holmesy
So one.
00:30:12
steve
Yeah.
00:30:12
Holmesy
So yeah, he's already one year in and and embarking on it. We've seen North Melbourne, you know, embark on the, on the rebuild and they're still, still 17th. So it's going to be very interesting. But yeah, Tim Taranto in my team at the moment.
00:30:24
Holmesy
Um, but I'm just playing a little bit of devil's advocate to to make sure that all of the angles are given. My last player is, um we're going to go Adam Cherr. Now Cherr is a ah very interesting one. hany I'm just going to rattle off some numbers for you. So this was the 2023 season. Adam Cherr was playing an inside midfield role.
00:30:46
Holmesy
This was an 11 game stretch of scores. So 130, 137, 130, 62, 119, 92, 111, 82, 122, 114, 119. So there's no doubt Adam Cherr has the ability to go big if given the right role. He's in the right system at Colton. Yes, they've got a few big scorers in Sam Walsh um and Mick Newman and Docketty is coming back into that side as well, who's traditionally been a big scorer. But If he's, ah if he's getting an inside midfield role, we know Sam Walsh is going to be good, but we've also seen Patrick Cripps have some very good AFL seasons, but not ah big fantasy number seasons. There's a world here where we're getting Adam Chair at 72 and he can go 95, 100 and be a ah premium scorer for us. Yes, the injury history is there. um There was an article put out recently to say that he'd been
00:31:38
Holmesy
um, overseas in the off season to go to one of those training camps that some of the other AFL players had gone to, which is a, is a good thing that they're trying to get on top of his body. Hami, is Adam Chera someone you've, you've looked at because he has, it's high risk, high reward, but if, if a pick like this comes off when the rest of the comp aren't willing to go there, then you're a, you're a huge leg up already.
00:32:00
Jon Harmey
Yeah, yeah, look, ah I've definitely looked at him, mate, and he's been in and out of my sight a little bit at the moment, so I'm not 100% certain, but I do feel as though he's underpriced. Look, the the numbers you rattled off, um that's cool. ah The thing about that is he also has a lot of down weeks, and that's why it sort of compensates for those ceilings that you're talking about.
Essendon and Darcy Parrish Discussion
00:32:21
Jon Harmey
But i sort of I looked at Carlton and I think, well, Crips and Walsh, they should really be the the um two top dogs in the Carlton midfield. Then you know Kennedy's gone, so there's a little bit of opportunity at least. Hewitt, they like in there, so I think he'll be in there. But then I think it's Cherra.
00:32:41
Jon Harmey
So I do feel like he'll be in that top four rotation, here which he got thrown around a little bit from memory last season. So I do feel like he should have a good midfield role and he should be better than that early 70s price point.
00:33:01
Holmesy
Steve, what do you think about Madam Chair? ah
00:33:04
steve
Not a massive wrap. Um, I think a lot of that, like I had him in my draft team in that 2023 year and I feel like a lot of the good scores when Walsh was out and coming back, that's purely anecdotal. I haven't got the stats. So if someone wants to correct me on that, that's fine. Um, yeah, I dunno, just doesn't do it for me. And there's a lot of other guys in that price range who I just prefer to be honest.
00:33:31
Holmesy
I think in this new age fantasy, like in years gone by, I'd be looking at a player like Adam Cera and I'd be going, all right, he's priced at 72. Can he go 95? Get me through to the mid-season buyers and then I can flip him. That's 23 points of upside.
00:33:46
Holmesy
But I think with the way the game's played now, all you really need for him is a five, six game run where he can really get out to a flyer. He starts with Richmond round one. If you can get off to a flyer with some big scores, Colton also have a decent run up until round six. He doesn't need to be someone that I keep all the way through. He can be someone that I flick on to the next guy. It's just a different way I'm looking to to play the game. So he's someone that I'm looking at. um Yeah, I like him, but I mean, I haven't seen any preseason games yet.
00:34:14
Holmesy
umy
00:34:15
Jon Harmey
Yeah, Holmes, I was going to say, look, I sort of have sat down and written out, you know, where everybody scored last year. And there isn't that many
Evaluations of Key Players
00:34:25
Jon Harmey
plays in the game that averaged over 100. Like in the midfield, there's actually very few. like I'll get at them. You know, I'm looking at it now, but I don't know how many there'd be. It's less than 10.
00:34:36
Jon Harmey
A lot of the guys we are speaking about here, we as a group are expecting to go over a hundred. So, you know, like, what did I say? Connor Rosie priced at 96. He's got to go over a hundred really for you to, you know, say that's a good pick. If chair is coming in priced at seven, I can find out what he is priced at.
00:34:56
Jon Harmey
73 right if he goes 85 it's probably not a bad pick and I reckon he's got that in him quite easily so I just think it's not a bad starting option
00:35:09
Holmesy
Beautiful.
00:35:10
steve
Can I say is like one thing, one thing I found last year that was helpful was Papowski put out on his website, this thing with like worthwhile averages.
00:35:10
Holmesy
Stay.
00:35:21
steve
but So what a player was priced at and what they needed to average to be a worthwhile pick. And I think a 75 ish player. Yeah. And like what you're saying about tradings, that's fine.
00:35:31
steve
You had to sort of average 101 and I just don't see Adam Cherry being that 101 player. I think he's that high 80s, maybe low 90s player across the season. Now maybe if he has a hot run to make that start, it's it's worth it, but I'd just be cagey about him. You know what happens in fantasy? You go, I plan to trade him here. And then you've got three other headaches you've got to deal with.
00:35:53
Holmesy
Yeah, the worthwhile average conversation is interesting. That's to be a, to be a knockout pick though, right? We know not all our picks are going to be knockout picks in it. It's a trading game, but yeah, you're right. If he's, if he's priced at 72 and he goes one-on-one, you're not, you're not trading him until after the buyers, until your final upgrades or, or if he's coming into a ah difficult run. But yeah, Adam chair, I'm interested in and keen to see his role in the preseason. Steve, do you have one more player for us?
00:36:17
steve
Yeah, so I've got Will Day, he's coming in at the mid twenties ownership, I think from Hawthorne. Love the play. Obviously had the stretch fracture in his foot last year in the pre-season, coming on average, I think it was the lower nineties, the season before. So 20 points under on what he's done previously. He should still be locked into that midfield. I think it's a nice midfield to be a part of because you've got kind of Nash,
00:36:45
steve
who really doesn't do much other than guard a man. You've got James Warple, who is in fact James Warple. John Newcomb's a good player as well, but he's not you know one of those guys who sucks up 110 points a game. A likable day, he's got a good inside game. He's the sort of player who um can start like start off the back of the clearance, get the ball. That's the player I like, they find the free ball.
00:37:12
steve
ah And the other thing that was really nice last year was he improved his efficiency. So he's probably not someone you're going to hear a lot of in Murdoch ball because he was able to make it work. Just didn't turn the ball over. I think he's a Rolls Royce player. Don't know if he can average over a hundred because I think if he does, then other teams will be clamping down on him quick snap. But to start with, he's coming in at massive unders. They've upgraded their back line. If that they start turning the ball over, get the ball through the midfield. Will Day is going to be a big part of that.
00:37:42
Jon Harmey
Yeah, and and on his day, like he got a good tackle, he takes a few marks. like He punches a ah really high ceiling game when everything is going his way. I just feel he's a little bit inconsistent. And when you talked about going over 100, well, I'll have a look at the Hawks' midfield from last season. We had John Nukem, 86 average. James Warpool, 78 average. Will Day, 74 average. Connor Nash, 74 average.
00:38:10
Jon Harmey
But maybe they're just not a fantasy friendly team.
00:38:15
Holmesy
That was going to be that was going to be my my point, I think. they They shifted last year. Hawkball, they were calling it. They were they were up there with the the fantasy scoring team. As a team, they were bang on average, so they were still scoring, but they seemed to share ah share the ball a lot like the the sort of Geelong model. So maybe they don't want their midfielders having big fantasy, big disposal games. that They're more of a team. There's no doubt he's under. I just question where he can actually get to. There's a couple of other red flags for me as well. i think
00:38:49
Holmesy
outside of Essendon in round one, I think Hawthorne have a ah relatively tough run to start. I think it's about the fourth or the fifth hardest. um He's coming off off-season surgery, so he's not starting main training until mid-January, so I always like to at least have a bit of caution on players that have had a bit of a delayed preseason because we need them to get out of the blocks firing early and and just the, yeah, the way the Hawthorne midfield scores.
00:39:12
Holmesy
I'm not sure that's the way they play, Steve, but ah definitely someone that's unders and from a draft perspective is definitely someone I'll be looking to to bump up as well.
00:39:23
Holmesy
um But yeah, that's my thoughts on.
00:39:23
steve
Well, they were the fifth highest averaging team over the run. What's going on here? You ask me on and then you piss on all my players.
00:39:31
Jon Harmey
yes
00:39:31
steve
I try to go, yeah, no, Andy Brescia, no, he's good.
00:39:34
Jon Harmey
You boys should have a bet, I reckon.
00:39:35
Holmesy
Is there anything, is there anything more yeah is there anything worse listening to a podcast where everyone just agrees with each other and and there's no, no two sides to it?
00:39:37
Jon Harmey
You know, who averages more for the season? Cherra or Day?
00:39:48
Holmesy
I think he's a good pick. He's someone that's been in and out of my side, but I think it's just valuable to, to give all angles, Steve. And he's,
00:39:54
steve
Well, it depends who's been being agreed with and being argued with. Well, that's me. I don't know if I like it. when um When I run my own show talking to myself, fuck I get good feedback.
Episode Conclusion and Future Teasers
00:40:05
Jon Harmey
yeah Right every time.
00:40:08
Holmesy
Yeah, thanks for ruining my season last year with LDU, Steve. I really appreciate that.
00:40:13
Jon Harmey
Man, we're not going there. I don't think he's on our list, is he?
00:40:17
Holmesy
No, no, he's not on our list.
00:40:17
steve
could
00:40:18
Holmesy
All right. So we had a ah number of listener requests that that we're gonna but going to get to. And there was a, like I said, there was a lot that were asking about sort of mid prices and other positions, which we will get to on other podcasts, but we're strictly sticking to premiums and under-priced premiums.
00:40:34
Holmesy
So, Hami, I'll start with you first. The first player that was requested was Marcus Bontempelli. And you can kind of see why. um priced at 107 off the back of 117 the year before, 107 before that. So he's is' clearly at the top top end of the premiums. He's Marcus Bontempelli. What do you think? can we Can we go there? Do you think there's scope for him to to get back to above 110 or do you think he sort of is what he is now?
00:41:00
Jon Harmey
You can go there. I don't reckon he's getting back to 117. He's so is someone that I have looked at and I was quite keen early on and with the Bulldogs not having the buy in. But yeah, look, I just think that there is more chance he goes down in average than up in average if you think of it that way.
00:41:21
Holmesy
Steve, have you looked at looked at Bon?
00:41:24
steve
Matt, I haven't really looked at the teams. um I like Bond. He's a fine player. I'm sort of with Army. You should probably be in the range. If you went up three points, down three points, it's kind of the same to me.
00:41:39
Holmesy
Yep, fair enough. Steve, can I throw you a a Darcy Parrish? So priced at 92. He's gone 107 and 100 in previous years. I suppose the question we need to ask is, well, A, is he fit and healthy, but B, can we see Essendon's midfield changing up? Because we know that for Parrish to be an elite scorer, um he needs sort of 70 to 80 percent CBAs because he needs to rack the footy where he he doesn't really mark and and tackle very much.
00:42:05
steve
Yeah, he was in strong consideration, uh, for me to on this show, just to use low ownership. He is a high possession winner. That's a good thing for fantasy. I'm not, despite them drafting a lot of inside mids, I'm not convinced he's being kicked out of there cause he is, he's a premium player. Um, and I'd find it hard to believe he wasn't the second highest CVA player for that team. So I, I got no dramas with.
00:42:32
steve
Um, Parrish and then, you know, look at Caldwell, he's had hip surgery. He's not running. He's not in full training yet. So is it, is that who's the player that's kicking him out?
00:42:43
Holmesy
We'll throw to the Essendon man, then. Harmony, is Paris someone that's on your radar?
00:42:49
Jon Harmey
ah I've looked at him. Look, he'll definitely be in the midfield. I love him as a player, but when he was at the top of his fantasy game, he was racking up 40 touches in a game, and I just don't feel like that's the style of play that they're going to go with. So um I think he's probably about what he's at, even though he'll have a good midfield rotation at the Bombers this season.
00:43:13
Holmesy
Yep. And another player with an early buy, albeit with Hawthorne, where the players aren't as relevant and it's round four, but still something that needs to be taken into consideration. Hami, sticking with you, our favorite of the pod pod and a a premium fantasy score of years gone by, Sam Docherty coming in priced at 74. You know, he's perennially been someone that's been above 100 scoring as as best as anyone in the comp. What do we think of Sam Docherty for this upcoming season?
00:43:40
Jon Harmey
But when you look at all of these plays, you think, what is the role that they are going to play? And I look at Sam Docherty these days, a bit older, a bit slower, and they have more options. I feel like he's going to be on the wing. Now, that's not conducive to that nice half back roll.
00:44:00
Jon Harmey
ah or the key CBA roll. I don't feel he's going to be either of those. And because of that, I don't think that he's really an option for us. um So price is 74. Look, if he has a really good run there, um I think Ollie Hollands has gone to the back flank. So there's a spot there for him. Maybe he's 85, maybe 80. I don't know, but I just don't feel like he's going to be the knockout pick we're looking for. And, you know, it clogs up a midfield spot for us.
00:44:29
Holmesy
Yeah, I think Blake Acres averaged 88 this year from the wing, so he's ah another one that gets a little bit of ball on the wing as well.
00:44:32
Jon Harmey
And.
00:44:35
Holmesy
But yeah, he's he's interesting. He's definitely under someone to to bump up on draft day, I would have thought. but where he gets to in that system. I'm not too sure, but definitely a pre-season watch. Steve, this one's for you. Ed Richards has been requested. So priced at 86 after a move to the midfield. Now, when I was thinking back of last season, I thought that the move for Richards in the midfield was a bit later in the season, but it was actually around six. So most of the midfield move is already baked into his price point. I think I looked at all of the games where he had more than 40% CBAs and the average jumped up to 88 and a half. So not a huge
00:45:10
Holmesy
huge jump. I suppose the question would be if if he can push past a Libba to be that sort of M3, then what what can he get to? But when we know Bont is going to do Bont things and and Trelore, if he's fit and healthy, has shown over the last two years that he's a 105 plus averaging midfielder in that system. Hami said that there's not that many players in the comp that average 100. I think it would be tough for Ed Richards to really make that jump as a mid only, but to see someone that sort of piqued your interest,
00:45:37
steve
I like the player and I like watching him play, but I wouldn't have thought he'd be moving up enough to justify paying for him in classic.
00:45:48
Jon Harmey
Hey, Holmesy, just on that, there was a, I saw a Herald Sun, someone, they had an article and it was like about the Western Bulldogs' Intro Club and I had a shot of the, like, Bevos' coaches' board. They had, like, all the players. So Ed Richards was in on the B-Sides midfield playing on ball and I just feel like he's still a bit far down the pecking order. It was like Riley Sanders was still on the A side ahead of him. I just think he's going to be a bit too far down. I love him as a player, like that burst of pace out of there. But I just think he's like the sixth or seventh in line probably for the Bulldogs um when they line up in their CBAs.
00:46:30
Holmesy
Yeah, i'll I'll push back on that one a bit, Hami. I think he is going to be in the midfielders that fourth or fifth. they They clearly put him in there last year and he played some very good footy at times. And with those match sims, as Stevie famously likes to say, there are two sets of midfielders and What's the point of a match simulation game in November we or December where you have your top midfielders, one, two, three, four, smashing the kids? So I think they often switch the midfields up at time where they have half of their best midfielders in one side and half in the other. So it's a little bit more of a
00:47:01
Holmesy
and even kill. So I wouldn't read too much into that yet, but um yeah, we definitely need to see how the team lines up in the in the practice matches. I think he's a good player, but I think he's more of an impact player rather than that accumulator, which means he's going to have some floor games at times despite playing some pretty good footy. So not someone I'm looking to start, but ah who knows.
00:47:21
Holmesy
ah We'll stick with you, Hami. Zach Merritt, priced at 109. He's been around that mark for as long as he's been in the competition. So one of the most consistent players. There's been talk of him going off the half back line in match sim, which I don't necessarily believe is there. One would is there. He's everything to them in the midfield. So as is he as good a starting pick as any of these top end premiums, knowing that he's he's safe and he does have the ability to go bigger?
00:47:44
Jon Harmey
He's the best player that you've listed today, Holmes. He is a legend.
00:47:50
Holmesy
Steve, I'll get an unbiased tape.
00:47:50
Jon Harmey
ah look na now like If you did have the early buy, you'd probably um be a bit more keen.
00:47:52
Holmesy
yeah
00:47:56
Jon Harmey
But I don't know, if you're paying $109 for somebody that's got a buy coming up, you've wanted to start ah pretty amazingly in round zero. So yeah, look, um I think he's probably $109.
00:48:09
Jon Harmey
And nine and that's that's a great result. But um whether you're paying that in in round one, I'm not too sure.
00:48:17
Holmesy
I do love, I do love Zach Merritt. He's someone that finds his way into everyone's teams at some point, but he's always been a player where you can generally get him at a lower price point. He has ah a tagged game here or there, which which puts his price down a little bit, which generally is the the time to jump. So he's not someone I'm looking to start, but at the same time, if it's round five or round six and Zach Merritt's come out with a 115, 120 start and he's blowing everyone out of the water, that absolutely wouldn't surprise me as well. So absolutely trust your gut with that pick.
00:48:46
Holmesy
Uh, Steve, Jake Selego, so priced at 77 after moving into the midfield last year, there was talk that he was getting a little bit tired mid-season where the role kind of shifted around a little bit, but in games where it was above 40% CBAs, he had a 82 average, which isn't great, but another year, another year of development, uh, potential of Rory Laird moving out of the midfield. So many moving parts at Adelaide. Is Selego someone you'd look at?
00:49:12
steve
ah He's not. And again, I love the player. I really, really like watching him play. I think he's a massive point of difference for their midfield, but I can't have him in classic, unfortunately.
00:49:25
Holmesy
Yeah, I echo those thoughts as well, Steve.
00:49:26
Jon Harmey
but what' times he Let's have a look at that. like Adelaide is one team that I've just been really torn on. They they should um have luck ah a whole bunch of people that we're looking at for more opportunity that could be on the up. As a team, they should be on the up.
00:49:45
Jon Harmey
But that midfield, it's so uncertain, isn't it? Dawson, Crouch, Laird, Neil Bullen, even, Sulego, Peatling, Berry, Rankin, Sid Draper. Like, that's ah that's a pretty even group. So I've got no idea who's playing on board start season. and
00:50:05
Holmesy
Yeah, they're going to be a ah massive pre-season watch, but at the same time, Matthew Nix is is quite clearly coaching coaching for his career now. He has been for for some time and if they come out slow, um he's in ah he's in a world of hurt.
00:50:19
Holmesy
None of us would be surprised if they come out and have a slow start and he's sacked mid-season like we've seen over the last couple of years.
00:50:20
Jon Harmey
Yep.
00:50:25
Holmesy
So i would I would think personally that Dawson's the main man and then all of the other guys are are sort of your part players around him. But yeah, it's it's impossible to tell and they are they are one of the biggest watchers of the pre-season with some of these cheaper guys to to look at. I think if you were taking anyone, it would be Peetling over Selego just because Peetling's priced at 61 and Selego's priced at 77 and they not they're not going to be premium keepers for us. So you're looking for as much upside and it's a lot easier to get upside from 61 as it is from 77.
00:50:56
Holmesy
But yeah, definite definite watch on the Adelaide midfield. Steve, i'm goingnna I'm going to go to you for this one because you've been the number one ticket holder for this player for a while and it still hasn't come to fruition. But Finn Callahan, is he ever going to come to the party?
00:51:08
steve
Oh, fuck. Man, it should, right? He should. He should, but it hasn't. I'm worried. I'm nervous. This is the reason I picked Steve Canelio, because I'm like, it's so much safer. And I was talking, we had Tea Better on my show and we were sort of basically discussing like, did GWS just value wings?
00:51:29
steve
so much higher than we in the fantasy community give give them credit for, right? Because they just, it's Kelly out there, it's Callahan out there in a smattering of, you know, O'Halloran, etc, etc. but he went And even when he goes into the midfield, he doesn't really produce and they've given him chances and then they go back to the Peatlings and they go back to the Bedfords and they, you know what I mean?
00:51:54
steve
Like they're finding every excuse not to playing him in there. So he should, he should break out, but I'm not convinced. I'd i'd much rather take him in draft.
00:52:02
Holmesy
I said you
00:52:05
Jon Harmey
Yeah, it's sort of like the it's the Josh Kelly thing, isn't he? He's great on the outside, so if they need something a little bit different, that's where they go. They put him back out on the wing and and um you know try and link up, you know get wi Whitfield kicking the ball down the back flank to somebody on the wing with the Kelly or Callahan.
00:52:25
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I just feel I think was it was a Phil Davis. or so I think was Phil Davis said is the best junior that they'd seen come to the club. Yet they're not playing him as the on ball or like he's not getting the best opportunity to show he's the best midfielder there.
00:52:39
steve
I'll give you a nice stat of the top 20 midfielders for handball receives, aside from Steve Canelio who got injured. He was the only one to average under 93 fantasy points.
00:52:52
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:52:54
Holmesy
Far out state you have you have gone date you are you are worried you are worried
00:52:59
steve
Mate, I gotta give the gold on the pod pod, don't worry about that.
00:53:04
Holmesy
Beautiful. Well, that's it for for us on ah on a big episode of the for the midfielders where we're going to continue with our positional preview. So up next, we have the forward line, I think. Maybe the rocks. I'm not sure. We keep switching it up here. Who knows where where Shambles. But Steve, before we before we finish up, can you just give the listeners a little bit of an update on the draft doctors when you plan on having the draft kit out and what do we have in store for 2025?
00:53:31
steve
ah Yeah, it's it so it's funny every pods got something bigger and more exciting. We got more of the same yeah at best ah So the draft kit generally around Australia Day January 26 invasion day Whatever you want to call it to be around then we got the weekly podcast. So we're doing the forward ranks or release on Wednesday ah That's already in the can very exciting. The writers are all here state. Oh, he will have his um 22 under 22 in the draft kit. I know a lot of people are big fans of that. Sato's still doing the kit ah with all the rankings and yeah, it's just, it's more of the same. There's there's its there's no bigger, there's no better.
00:54:08
Holmesy
and It's pretty hard to improve where you're already are at the top of the tree at what you do, mate. So just just consider it that way. See it that way. But, Hami, where can the listeners find you on all the socials? And what do you have? You're 20, 25. You win, you're out. You win, you're out to give ah the listeners a bit of an update.
00:54:26
Jon Harmey
Oh yeah, no, 2025. I look, I'm being a bit poor on socials, to be honest, mate. I've just been making the time for the podcast and that's all I've really had. But ah thanks for coming on, Stevie. Always value your insights. it was um It was good to have a chat today.
00:54:44
steve
I enjoyed it. It's always interesting talking classic because it's just such a different mindset. it just It's fascinating, fascinating. Learned a lot last year, always learning.
00:54:57
Holmesy
Yeah, look, I'm personally, I'm just waiting for Stevie Fizz to win his first hat before, before Dossie. I think that would be, that would be a lead. And let's be honest, Dossie's nowhere near it, Steve. So just continue trucking along. But with that, we'll, uh, we'll wrap up the podcast here. Make sure you're following us on X at Pod Pod AFL. I'm at Homsey's Heroes.
00:55:18
Holmesy
Make sure you're subscribed on Spotify, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content. And if you could leave us a rating and review to make sure we are up rolling again, that would be greatly appreciated. I'll be back this week with a ah special edition of The Holmes Files. This guest is probably the biggest in the business, so really looking forward to that one. And we'll be back next week with a our positional previews continuing. Enjoy. it