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Season 3- Episode 22- Everything Spins Backwards in the Southern Hemisphere (Champions Cup QF & Super Rugby Round 8)
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It is those silly Americans that think they know a thing or two about rugby. On this episode we discuss a bit of player movement, including a particular Munsterman going home to reunite with his old club. We dive into a bit about what Jess Hayden wrote about with the Welsh Rugby Union not giving their Women's programs the proper attention they require if they are to be serious about being competitive and not give lip service (it's not just money either). We dive into the matches from the 6 Nations this past weekend and why you can never get away from Emily Scarratt as your captain. We give the wrap up of the matches both in Aotearoa and the Champions Cup, including the two, less than entertaining matches, we were forced to deal with on Sunday. We do a bit of Champi-Yanks League catch up, Start or Sit and lots more in between. Crack a cold one, kick the feet up and have a laugh with us.
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Transcript
Introduction and Sports Recap
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, welcome back. It is a fancy Ruby. It's my name's Jared Dyke. I'm Daniel. Let's suck in. We got not too much Ruby to talk about per se, but there's going to be a lot to turn through here. I have a feeling some certain matches give you a certain things to talk about. Yes, they did. Oh God. I'm not really into that. Yes, but I'm also very happy with some of the results. Oh, I am too. Totally. Totally. I'm totally with you. All
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00:00:33
Speaker
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00:00:36
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You know, I need one. Yeah. Now we've had this conversation. Gimme, gimme. Uh, I have mine. Maybe both have locals, which is good. Yeah. I got, um, the, the night shift of the night. Um, just frog swamp. Yes. To our turtle swamp. Excuse me. Turtle swamp, which is in JP. Okay. Yeah. Another small one.
00:01:00
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And I chipped his up in Everett, so a little further away, a little important. Still local. We like it. Everett's kind of local. It's more local than freaking St. Louis. That crap. All right.
00:01:17
Speaker
Make sure that you're buying our boy, George, the fancy where we get your coffee. He's going to be invaluable for the running for many of you that are in FRD playoffs and trying to get to the top of your TRM Premiership teams. And obviously, this past weekend was a critical week for those that were in Champions Cup semi-finals as well.
00:01:36
Speaker
So grab your wallets and get that man some. FRG, a coffee beer thing. Yep, that thing. And speaking of, grab your tiara and upgrades. We're on the running. You're going to want them, OK? Now, like, a lot of teams, and we'll talk about it later, but a lot of teams have their, like, nothing left to play for except the prem. So nobody's saving their players. So, you know, it's going to be a rotation sometimes, but they're all trying to get top four.
00:02:04
Speaker
Absolutely. So yeah, TRM upgrades are vital to knowing who's starting because you never fucking know. Some of them, some of my, some of your best players might be starting and sometimes he might not. Yeah, you know, you don't want to go to sleep on that one. Um, and of course it supports the, the restart rugby as well. All right.
Social Issues and Accountability
00:02:21
Speaker
Um, black lives matter and all we've got fucking happened again. Yeah. We got another sad one again. I mean, it's all, it's always sad, but this is just ridiculous. Like,
00:02:31
Speaker
The difference between a taser and a gun, like, come on, man. And she trained other police officers. She's the one who they went to to be like, this is how you're going to teach people how to do this. Wow. That's just so shameful in so many ways. And I'm glad she's already been arrested. That's great. But as people have said, the fact that she wasn't arrested on the spot
00:02:58
Speaker
That is problematic. That's where we need to get to is immediate accountability and real accountability. Yeah. Immediately, gun and badge should be gone. Right. Right there. Immediately, gun and badge. No, no, no. She shouldn't get her pension. She shouldn't get a lot of things.
00:03:16
Speaker
Yeah, well, she's if she's arrested, she's not gonna get it. She's convicted. Yeah. She's not gonna get it. That should be out of the question anyway. Right? No, I don't. I mean, it's hard as fuck to get a conviction. I don't even know that they're good. Like, this. So again, the job and the Derek Chauvin, sorry, I almost called it George Floyd. Sorry. trial. I don't want to remember that fuck's name. I want to remember George Floyd's name. But
00:03:41
Speaker
Either way, the prosecutor is just fucking up the defense. And so hopefully that works out, but you still never know because it's America and all it takes is one juror to be a frickin' maggot chud and say, no, cops are good no matter what.
00:04:00
Speaker
to fuck it up. So you never know. You know, we don't know that there's going to be accountability there. No, it's too fucked. No, we do. One thing I do want to say is one of the biggest supporters of Black Lives Matter. Ashton Hewitt had a successful surgery after his injury. So we wish him all the best. We like it. We love you, Ashton. Chin up, buddy. You'll be able to see out there soon.
Sports Player Movements
00:04:23
Speaker
Okay. Uh, new cycle slash player movement. We have some interesting stuff we haven't talked about. Some of it just broke this week. Um, but, uh, the biggest one I think is coming home. The most coming home. That's the wheel wheels going back to Munster. I think he saw what, um, James Lowe did in his Jersey for Ireland and said, no, no, no, no. I'm not having that shit for a while. At least for you.
00:04:46
Speaker
I mean, yeah, he definitely should. I would assume he slots into the back three somewhere for Ireland. And, you know, it's it is interesting, you know, he kind of has taken a not dissimilar path from section section played for Rossing for a couple seasons, and then went back to Leinster and the Leinster crew will tell you he was much improved playing in that league so and for that team as well. So plus it helps that.
00:05:11
Speaker
A lot of the Irish teams are playing more open now. They're trying to make it a little bit more expensive. So it'll be good for him, I think, if he can help advance that too. Yeah, I think with the likes of the guys that have stepped in over there at Tillman Park, along with Joey Carberry playing 10, as long as he's playing 10, I think that helps tremendously. So that gives them options over there a monster. So it'll be cool. Yeah, it's great to see you on a lot of fronts.
00:05:40
Speaker
So I'm moving on from was not the probably one of the worst kept secrets out there going to Leon. He had a rough go. I do feel terrible for him because I know he's a quality player. There's no doubt about that in my mind. Everyone knows people know that.
00:05:56
Speaker
So it's hard. It's hard in England. Sometimes, you know, that is not an easy, that's not an easy adaptation to get to. Like, remember he used to play at Forsyth bar, which is under a roof. Like I was just home pitch. So, you know, he got half a season of that every year. Like, and that's, that's perfect conditions. You can never, so to go to that and frozen ball every other week and I'm kidding.
00:06:21
Speaker
Yeah, so it is it is a trip and some people just can't make the transition as successfully. We'll see what Leon looks like form. It just seems to be a place for that. That's a big need for them. Yeah, it was new. He's not quite there. And you know, and
00:06:38
Speaker
it's yeah they need they need a little bit more help there uh something we didn't talk about but a little old news but we haven't talked about yet mikey brown heading towards the tune and leaving quinns that's they you know and hearing his side of the the the quinn's departure story makes it seem kind of shitty um
00:06:57
Speaker
more than shitty. So yeah, just not not well handled by the quins, unfortunately, but it happens, right? I mean, I think even he's like, yeah, look, we're gonna have a it's rough right now. But
00:07:10
Speaker
He's like, you know, I'm always gonna feel at home with the Quinn, so. Absolutely. Like, yeah, it's just, yeah, it wasn't done disrespectfully on purpose. I don't think it just, they fucked it up. Yeah, it's such a good old pooch screw on that one. Right, and their loss is Newcastle's game. 100%. That's a team that needs a presence like Mike Brown, so. Yeah, just that veteran presence alone is worth so much to that team right now.
00:07:38
Speaker
So there there's no reason to sit there and think that that's going to be anything but good. They're very, you know, they're young in spots and then really could use a veteran like him. Yeah. And Toby Flood's going bye bye soon. So right then. And then you tell me, basically, you saw the club, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the last time we saw him. I think I thought he got hurt, but I think he also sucked.
00:08:03
Speaker
Yes, yeah, he was he was not good. Certainly towards the tail end here. Elton Yanchis is leaving South Africa and going to pow like.
00:08:13
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know why people don't want to go to a place like that. Like I get it. It's probably nicer. It's not exactly, you know, the highest quality of 10. Certainly outside of South Africa, you can't fucking tackle at all. Yeah, he has an issue with tackling. That's for sure. You know, that's that. So and his.
00:08:34
Speaker
you know, ball handling, he can kick, certainly, no, no question about that. Yeah, he'll attack. But he did. Yeah, his defense is always questionable. Yeah. And that's, you know, so yeah, go to France, get your money, dude. Yeah, I mean, he's like, go, go, go bank. And yeah, and he's the kind of, but you know, that's the kind of player that that would be attracted to power, right? You know, not seems it. Not a top program, not a, no,
00:09:03
Speaker
Yeah, like, no, he's going there to make money. He's not going there to win. He's not going there to better himself as a player. He's going there to get a paycheck. Make some dough. And good for him. I would be preferable if he would go somewhere to become better.
00:09:19
Speaker
That's just not his style. Seems it not. I'm not, you know, I'm not good. Get your money, man. I don't care. It's your professional athlete. Like, yes, not everybody has to pass one, you know, you don't need to be the best in your position. You don't need to be, you know, there's no shame in not being the best. I don't think either of us can claim to ever be the best at positions. No, have fun. Make your money. Go for it.
00:09:42
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. It's, it's your poison, dude. Have fun. All right. So let's talk a little bit about a respected member of the media. Jess Hayden wrote a very interesting piece on rugby pass about whales and the complete disregard for that women's program. And it's just, it's, it's really sad to read about it because you saw that we saw the results on the field last couple weeks. Yep.
00:10:11
Speaker
Yeah. It seems like the, yeah. Okay. They've injected some sort of money, but they have no development programs and their development programs are, you know, what, what there is seems to be very scattered at best. So it's making the U S development program look, look good. Although you and I had a conversation about that, but yeah, not good. So it looks all right that way. It's just,
00:10:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's really, these are, you could see the freaking heartbreak on the Welsh faces. Yeah. They're not, they know that they're better than this, but cause they are, but it's just, you can tell the resources that other teams put in and the results bear that out that, you know, they, they know how to play with each other. You know, the Welsh just don't, it's not their fault. Um, they, they just, you know, it's, it's,
00:11:08
Speaker
You know, you can take an all-star team to like, you know, a big tournament and still just fucking, you know, if the other teams though, you know, you've other all-star teams that like play together all the time, it's not, or clubs that are just really good clubs that play together all the time. You're not going to do all that well. If you, if you just show up for like, Hey, here's two weeks of getting to know you part time. And then.
00:11:33
Speaker
Let's go play an all professional team from England. Yeah. That's not fair. Or, you know, this, and we'll talk about the Irish squad that they played and then the French quad, they played, obviously it was two, it was just two different, two different things. Really? It was apples and oranges in so many ways. And it's just.
00:11:53
Speaker
It takes more than just a little bit of money. That's like hush money basically is what it comes down to is what it feels like and that's insulting in so many ways. So I feel awful for the Welsh women that have played the last two games.
00:12:10
Speaker
And I think the Welsh Rugby Union really needs to take a hard look in the mirror and understand that they are fucking up. I don't care if the Welsh men just did what they did. You can't have one do so well. And the other one just be a shamble. Yeah. And you can't get 98 points in two games without scoring a single one yourself.
00:12:31
Speaker
not know. If that's acceptable, then you need to quit. Yeah. End of story. And I guess that also, you know, they definitely have a point where it's like the reverse of the situation where the, you know, soccer team here in the US, like the men, yes, the men are this like powerhouse team and get all the, you know, they get all the attention, they get all the funding.
00:12:55
Speaker
And they're, you know, and, and, and go into what they, they were in the semi-finals of the world cup and the women get fucking nothing. Um, you know, you, you can, obviously you're not, you're not treating either team, you know, we've never made the semi-final. We've only got to the knockout round at best. And it's like, you're just not, you know, it.
00:13:18
Speaker
Obviously, you show that you can do it, but you refuse to do it for the women. That's really what, to me, is the most fucked up. That you can't just pattern the... Even if the funding isn't the same, that's not the ideal situation. But at least if you have certain programs that aren't, even if they're not well-funded at first, I can have them. The development programs, the U20s sides,
00:13:48
Speaker
all these things where you're developing a national, you're developing a national team from the start for literally from the ground up. Yeah, like, and take it seriously, don't have pathways programs, half asset, right? If it's not there, how do you how can the players be expect? Yeah, it's just it's and I get that they're embarrassed. And that's, that's the worst part is that, you know, you're, you're, you're embarrassing your own, not just not your country, because fuck, obviously, you don't care enough for you clearly.
00:14:17
Speaker
Yeah, you're just putting these players out there to embarrass themselves and that's not fair.
00:14:23
Speaker
No, it is not at all. So I feel pretty, pretty awful for their for their sakes as well. Let's jump over to the Six Nations anyway, just for sure. We laugh.
Rugby Match Recaps
00:14:35
Speaker
You know, Italy three in 167 doesn't quite do it justice. Three to 17 at halftime. Right. So like, and then there was a point about 20 minutes in where I think I texted you. I'm like this, this Italy team ain't that bad. No, they're not bad.
00:14:51
Speaker
They're not, they're not fucking around. No, Franco was was a was a monster. She was everywhere. Yeah, it's just you can see the gas ran out after a while. And that was the problem. Well, and also England put on the cleals and that also helps put on the gas a little bit. Yeah, they threw some gas on the fire. Thank for sure. A little bit.
00:15:16
Speaker
Uh, that's not fair to break. Like, and it was really good to see Sarah Hunter back for, for England as well. You know, the, the, the smile on her face there at all. Um, but yeah. And it's not like she played, it's not like the, you know, I'm not shitting on the starters because they, they played well. It was at Italy in front of up. They did. And so it'll England had to bring on their, their best, their a ciders, uh, to really create that separation.
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, apart from the two, the two scampers for England, you know, this, that was a dead even game, you know, and that's, that's the difference of professionalism or not quite professionalism and not there yet, you know, pass out the, out the back doesn't go to hand. Yeah. It's going to be one of the defense defensive players who's charging up. That's going to get their hands or a foot on it.
00:16:05
Speaker
Peace. That's like, oh, that's not she's not coming back. Bye. No, that's like the last person. And like, you don't you don't put it. Yeah, don't put it right. You scare its hands. Good lord. Right. Anywhere near her. Bye bye. Yeah, she pleased. Yeah. But the difference between, you know, again, as you said, the professionals and the professional team would know just to take care of the ball around her.
00:16:27
Speaker
100% and it's yeah it is and I you know loads of credit to the Italians and and what they did with that that was you know the first half better team for sure but they just don't quite have what it takes to get over that line and they'll get there one day I feel but this this was good stuff for them considering their opposition and then just England England had way too much fun after that
00:16:53
Speaker
I was like, oh, just stop. Stop. Stop. He's dead already. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. I felt so bad. I was like, nope, nope, they're done. Just stop. Please stop. Damn towel. Right. It was the towel. It's all right. Well, at least at least the English woman went for the jugular and got her by the throat finally. So that is a good killer instinct at the very least.
00:17:20
Speaker
And then the aforementioned Welsh and Irish, you know, it's funny, we talked about how ill prepared the Welsh rugby union, more or less made the women, you know, Irish women didn't really play a whole lot recently and they seem to come out with some sort of fire up their ass, my goodness. Not only that, but I'm not going to attempt to pronounce her first name because I think, you know, Parsons though.
00:17:47
Speaker
But I butcher Irish names, so I'm not immune to that. Anyway, yeah, she's what, 19? Yeah, she's a wee baby. Yeah, she's a kiddo. So she's like their LRC and she's ready to go. Like there's no holding her back. I mean, you know, it helps when you're in a program like that that doesn't have established
00:18:09
Speaker
players that you have to win over. It's more like, oh, this, this girl can fucking fly. All right. And oh my, could she fly and, and throw the, the, the fence around too. Yep.
00:18:25
Speaker
She was good and at that age, so but there's obviously been development and work done with her. You know, there's she's been in roughly programs and that's didn't because they've talked about like our Lancer and Munster having women's programs should be great. I see no. I see no downside to that whatsoever. Considine played pretty well as well. Yes, she did.
00:18:45
Speaker
And then Hannah Tyrell got hers at the end. You know, she kicked quite well off the tee. She was leading the chart. She was steering the ship quite well. And then she got her try. And at the end, I was like, yep, that's well, that's nothing but dessert. She she told her in that for sure. So it's it's going to bring up a very interesting clash this coming weekend with them and France. So that'll be very, very interesting to see. I will be Ireland. I obviously when we did our I don't remember. Oh, no, I put them pegged around three. So this will really
00:19:15
Speaker
This will be, let's see how on point you are, sir. Yeah. But there's definitely, there's a shot. I mean, Ireland are better than I expected. Flat out, I'll lay that out there. So, and France are really fucking good too. So, should be a cracker. Yeah, should be a quite good match. How did you, did you answer this? Did you get away from Emily's carrot captain?
00:19:41
Speaker
No. Yeah. Nobody did. Oh, wait. No, I, I, um, I used, uh, I think I went with, um, shit, the wing. I lost. I used breach. Did you? Oh, you fell into that trap. You and Duncan both. Yeah. I fucked myself. Um, yeah.
00:19:59
Speaker
I can't do this. As I stated, yeah, as I stated with like, I don't know. I know Emily Scarat is going to score a shit ton of points. So I'm just going to do that. And I'll deal with the fact that I might not quite get there. Breach gets the meters. It's the it's the those meters run that are huge. And Scarat doesn't always get that because she kicks a lot. It's you know, so it's like, yeah, Scarat's going to get her points, no doubt. But like Breach way outstripped her last week. So I thought that it was kind of like
00:20:28
Speaker
I thought it was gonna be the same kind of situation here, especially when I saw the lineup. So I was like, okay, they're just gonna pass that ball to Jesper each and watch her run. Yeah, I mean, didn't really do that. They treated her like she was Ali Lawrence. Yeah, whoops. Nope. Yeah, it was it was really unfortunate. And
00:20:46
Speaker
for like the Welsh woman, like you just basically had to pick the less bad option because it wasn't a lot of points being scored. Lily crap probably is the highest score right now. And that wasn't a lot there. Yeah, right. So and good on Lily crap, though, for for gotten that shit out as long as she could. Yeah, she did. I we've.
00:21:05
Speaker
look, we've all been there. But maybe not so much in that specific situation. But I mean, you know, like taking an injury and you're you know, you if you come off your teams down to 14 because it's whatever. Yeah, because I belong to the subs, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah, that sucks. So hopefully, hopefully she she gets better and she can pick up her her club season soon here.
00:21:25
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So it'd be interesting. They're not just getting embarrassed. They're getting fucking injured because they're not. No, because they're not prepared. They're not prepared physically or team wise. Really unfortunate to play against that. Really sad. Yeah. So anger. We're going. I'd say this week we're going five Irish, five French. Are we going to go for a mix and match with the Scots in Italy or what? I think I'm well, oh, I don't know what I'm going to do. I hadn't I hadn't thought about it yet. Let me.
00:21:54
Speaker
Cause yeah, I would go five and five though. Um, cause I would assume that if, if for no other reason, um, it should be close. Right. And so that point differential thing won't kill you too bad. Yeah, it won't kill you. It'll be about, you know, where you think you can get the best, uh, you know, the best points at that point, um, for your money.
00:22:15
Speaker
I'm not sure what to, yeah, I'm really not sure what to make of Scotland, because Scotland also impressed me at first, against England. So yeah, I think it would be pretty even, but I'm leaning towards Scotland. I think I'm gonna take, I think if I can fit her in, I'm gonna take Franco, the flanker from Italy. I think I'll throw her in there. She played pretty well. Yeah, the fullback had positive, where is she?
00:22:43
Speaker
Come on now. Yeah, she was one of those one of the few that was positive for the Italian so that might be a point that might be a play. Yep. I may do that. Okay. Let's go to a terroir. Couple really good games. Both went to Golden Point Golden Point. Who knew? Yeah. Fuck. Both featured drop goals in
00:23:11
Speaker
in the golden point at the time, only one was successful. Only one found the right post. Yeah. So let's go to Forsyth Bar and Highlanders and Chiefs. You know, we said it should be an entertaining one and I don't think anybody was let down. No, that certainly entertained me all the way through the lot of good action. Yeah.
00:23:41
Speaker
I'm not complaining. Yeah, I know you're not. Yeah, he just kind of had a stinker, right? Yeah. He scored, though, didn't he? Yeah, but like off the tee, he was terrible. Yeah, he was. He was missing a lot. I was like, how are you missing these? Although fucking so is Damien. He missed a few. DMACC, yeah. So yeah, we played it. We played Golden Point for a reason. Right.
00:24:07
Speaker
Although, although I get I do, I get to get to poop on Quinn to paya, one of my favorite things to do in the world, because he does this occasionally and so I'm not and I'm not sure how injured he is so I'm not going to shit on them too much because yeah sometimes you get hurt and you just don't you don't give a fuck about the ball but
00:24:27
Speaker
You know when you're a professional that that goes out the window. I'm sorry. You're not, nobody's forcing you anywhere. He just completely just flung the fucking ball away because something happened to his knee and it's like there's no need to do that. Just fucking put it down and let it go and everything's fine. And then you can take care of it after. You had to be like all
00:24:45
Speaker
like just, you know, drama, fucking flinging the ball. Dramatic. No, no, no, I'm sorry. Just fucking take it to deck and manage your injury. And that costs. That's a big reason why the game went to extra time. That was right on the right on the line. So, fuck. Poor decision. Yeah, I was like, and he had to come off. He didn't come back. No, still.
00:25:14
Speaker
You know, I hope and yeah, I hope I hope he's okay. But I'm all right working without him for a while because it's just that, you know, yeah, he does some good things every so often, but he will just kill you like that. Right. And do something helmet like that and throw the ball away. So yeah. Do you think do you think we see I don't give him much of a I don't give him much much much of a leeway for being injured because he fucking does that anyway. Do you think we see Nickahville or
00:25:40
Speaker
I hope so. Or maybe a Trask Gatlin combo there. Kind of sorta. Yeah, I'd rather have Nankaville, to be honest. Hell, I'd rather put ALB at 12 and put like Stevenson at 13 or something, you know. Yeah, okay. There's options there. And shit, what's his name that we got from you guys? Chase. Yeah, Chase, throw him in that mix too. I don't haven't seen him nearly enough.
00:26:11
Speaker
Yeah, it's too bad to see that he hasn't been able to jump on it too much. You know, it's too bad that Josh, you only had to go and do what he did and be dumb because man, did he play really well when he finally got on the field? You know, if there's any question about who the best 10 on this team is or who should at least be in that role most of the time, it's him. I don't think there's any question at this point.
00:26:39
Speaker
So he proved why he belongs on an all-black shirt, that's for sure. You know, just taking the game. Yeah, I was not happy with his performance. Only because it was good. Right. Nothing, you know. Nothing personal in there. Right. I appreciate it. I just didn't like it. Yeah, no, I totally understand. But hey, so I'm glad he was able to recognize that he fucked up.
00:27:07
Speaker
And he took it upon himself to say, all right, I will fix this, I will make this right. And he did, so good on him. A lot of the right guys step forward for the Highlanders, Smith, Frisell, the guy that we mentioned, like, guys a monster, it's really hard to keep him out of the all blacks at this point. So, just amazing stuff from the two of them.
00:27:29
Speaker
it's it's so it's a it's there's still a fun team to watch but the Chiefs got the better of them and they I think they deserved it uh there was a lot of really good stuff the Satoro try right from the end man what control from that man yep I was like did he get that dude yeah and I but I also didn't think his foot was that close at first so like when when we're watching the replay and I'm like he's diving and it's
00:27:53
Speaker
Yeah, I was, I was like, I had to be sure it was because it was a sideline. That was like, that was the one thing that made me question his foot did kind of slide out to the right towards the end, but he was, he was in all good, just good body control all around. So it's, it's the chiefs that finally seem to just kind of wake up and get themselves on the, on the winning track here and good for them. Lots of, lots of good stuff from the, from those boys. And even though they're gone,
00:28:20
Speaker
I'm pretty pleased with the results lately. Well, you know, it's funny. They could sneak in.
00:28:27
Speaker
and take that second spot right now. I'm not saying it. I'm just hearing it. So I know the, I know the, I know the hurricanes are long gone, not nothing new. Um, so there's that. And then, uh, also on the Atturo front, they did confirm the next steps for those two Pacific rugby teams for next year, which will be, Oh, there's good. There's so much good that's going to come from this. So I'm excited to have them in the league next year. And it's going to be so much fun to watch. Uh, it'll be great. So looking forward to that for sure.
00:28:57
Speaker
Let's jaunt over to the land of the hurricanes. And it was tight all the way through. We went to Golden Point here, too. It was just a little unfortunate in more ways than one. Yeah, not a good way to... Okay, so if there... This is a fairly new thing, this whole Golden Point. So there's not really a textbook on how to do it.
00:29:25
Speaker
But we have a textbook of how not to do it. Yeah, Blackwell. What were you doing? You hammerhead. Feel the ball. Feel the kickoff. Well, that and like, he went against the wind. Like, what are you doing? Like, go with the wind, you dumbass. Like, what are you doing? Like, what is leg? Like, you should, that should be a threat. That should be an automatic threat. Right, because you're kicking. Right, yeah.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. So it was. Oh, yeah. And to start the game, you know, I get a little bit lucky. I was a little concerned with what ended up being a yellow card. I was like, are we in trouble here? Yeah, not that great discipline there. No, I was not. I was not impressed with that at all. I was like, why are you doing this? You dumbass. I get it. He's holding you on the floor, but just tell him to fuck off and be done with it. You know, it's it's a but he made it for it because he did score. He did score.
00:30:17
Speaker
I know he scored before and he just looked angry. He looked very angry running. So that is the that is the nano map that the hurricanes need to have any shot at anything ever because he is he is much better when he plays in that in that fashion. So here's the thing with Ruben Love played this game for the hurricanes and this is what this is why I wanted him. So if you didn't notice on attack, Jordy Barrett wants to play 10.
00:30:43
Speaker
And if we're going to do that, I don't care with that. The problem is Ruben loves a way better person that can attack out wide than Orban Ledger. No doubt about that in my mind. I'm just seeing it this weekend and you saw the one little burst that he got. Yes, right off the bat.
00:30:58
Speaker
yeah he's like i got this you gotta show that threat you know especially to a team like the crusaders you know you it's like uh you know the whole uh bull Durham you announce your presence with authority you gotta show him right off the bat and you're a threat and yep right off the kickoff yeah okay all right this kid can excellent all right he's a problem
00:31:20
Speaker
Yeah, so with that, you know, that's the better option at this point at 10 than Ledger. So there's a reason he's not even on the lineup at this point. Yeah. So I'm okay with that. I liked the way they ran it, right? Because they basically ran a 2-10 system because, you know, Jordy was on one side. Essentially, one side is the first receiver and Love was on the other when they were in attack. So I kind of liked how they worked it.
00:31:44
Speaker
and love was you know for a fly half who's this what this is first start this is first start if not his first game i thought he played last week maybe the previous match
00:31:56
Speaker
But yeah, first start, like to not be a glaring fuck up. Oh, yeah, totally is like nothing wrong. Yeah, like he and by that, I mean, like there's nothing that I was like, oh, man, list love kid might be mad at him. I just you just didn't notice him any either a good way or a bad way. It was just that that means he did his fucking job. Yeah, absolutely. Especially as a as a, you know, pop in that cherry. That's.
00:32:25
Speaker
There was a good game for him. George British seems to be coming back into form. Found himself on the line twice. Quite good, quite good as well. Yeah, I mean, she's, I saw, I was like, oh boy, this was the first one at 11 or so. I was like, uh-oh, this is gonna be a fucking long night, isn't it?
00:32:46
Speaker
They fought back. I was like, wait, they were like reviewing it. I'm like, I didn't think and then no, like little thing. You just got it down. I was like, oh, did he get this down? Shit, bollocks. That's how that's but that's how good he is. So you saw that we saw the strength of him. You know, it's really a couple more things. I want to move on here.
00:33:09
Speaker
It's unfortunate that this game went into extra time because it shouldn't have. That restrive was a forward pass. And I don't know what it takes to see that, but. Kiwis. Yeah, apparently that's a thing that Kiwis don't see. It seems like they treat a pass almost like a kick. I feel like, if I remember the TMO talking about him,
00:33:36
Speaker
about the play. He was like, oh, no, he's behind him when the pass is thrown. And I'm like, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It matters where he catches it. How about you look at the line that's painted on the ground where the one guy throws it from behind.
00:33:51
Speaker
Apparently referees don't want to use that thing. I don't know what it is. Apparently referees are just like, yeah, lines, fuck it. I don't know what that is. Use the things on the field that tell you whether or not the damn thing's forward. That's really easy. You're never going to have all the camera angles. Yeah, the pass was never backwards.
00:34:09
Speaker
Whatever. Yeah. And, uh, Artie Sevilla was an absolute hero for this team. Um, was totally was ended up doing his MCL. So he's out for about eight weeks. That will be done for the rest of this comp and probably for the trans Tasman matches as well. But hopefully he's back for in time for the rugby championship. Yeah, he should be all right there. So hopefully hope to see him there. Uh, let's jump up to champion Scott. We had two.
00:34:33
Speaker
You know, it was, it was just a complete, you talk about a mixed bag. This was a complete mixed bag. It really was. I was pretty fucking happy about a couple of the results. Right. Good Lord. I mean,
00:34:50
Speaker
Yeah, so the first the first match number one peacock you're a bunch of fucking idiots got the time got the time listed wrong and next time I see that I'm just like, you know what? I'm trusting my brain. Yeah, that's shit idiots. He both did the same thing. Totally half out of the match. He's like, fuck. What the fuck?
00:35:13
Speaker
And at that point the match was fucking over. Cause yeah, I know, you know, I had, I didn't even look in. I was like, I'll see it later. But sailhead, you know, muscled their way kind of back into it, but really in the end, like a lot of Rochelle was too good in a story.
00:35:30
Speaker
You know, this, this team was way better than the, than the team sale played last week. And it was clear that they did not know what was coming at them. And, and, uh, by the time do my Ru got over for his first, I was like, this thing's over.
00:35:44
Speaker
And that was the end Ramon rule, not great defensively, but fantastic. I mean, what he was on, uh, was he on yards side? I feel like he was involved in the plays. He missed one tackle, I think on the, uh, on the score near the near halftime on, um, on Sam James for Sam James that, Oh yeah. I think, I think McWiggin offloaded to him. So yeah. Yeah. Um, no, but I'm, yeah, I'm just thinking, you know, if you're on, um,
00:36:11
Speaker
If you're on yards side of the field, you can you can you can be okay if you're not great defensively, you're not going to be that much of a liability. No. So against sale who don't really have much in the way of back three for outside backs, or better than a little bit of pop, for sure.
00:36:29
Speaker
So, and yeah, and then the blades try where he just didn't quit. So, and that's lesson for all the kids at home. Don't fucking quit. Just keep going. Never know. So yeah, if you didn't learn that after the fucking England try for off reach, damn it, then you better learn it now. Yep. And everything was fine. Yeah. He pulled it back where everything was great about that. And that was like, that's a good, you know, all of that.
00:36:52
Speaker
good lesson for kids because he goes and he rips the ball. He rips it backwards so it's not a knock, you know, it's not like slapping it out of the hands. He's actually actively pulling it, especially against a tiny puny person. It's very, it's very effective. You know, when their arms can't really even fit around the ball, it's hard. It's hard to not necessarily that Tyrion Jamie crossover. Yeah, exactly.
00:37:23
Speaker
Oh, sorry. Sorry. I'm not sorry. Um, so yeah, it was, it was lower shell all the way. There wasn't really after a few minutes. It was almost no question. Yeah. I mean that all G try was pretty good. He's pretty good as well. Just an amazing offload and just him be, I thought it was, I thought he was a center.
00:37:48
Speaker
I was like, which, which I was like, which was that a 12 or the 13? I couldn't, I didn't get the number. Neither. Nope, neither. Neither. Well, yeah, Gregory Aldridge. Amazing. And then, so let's start. Excuse me.
00:38:04
Speaker
got a little bit of a dose of their own medicine, really, in some ways, started fast and then had the opposition roar back against them and just kind of put the kibosh on them. With, you know, Leinster, it took him a little bit to wake up. Oh, yeah. I know, Florida got the best of them twice. And that'll happen.
00:38:28
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, this is, as I, you know, as I said, coming into the match, you know, in last pod, like Exeter can be had, they're not, they're not what they were. I don't know what their problem is this year, but they're certainly not as strong as they have been, and they're just patience for them until they won.
00:38:50
Speaker
As far as their forwards as of right now, if you can neutralize Sam Simmons, which is a task, don't question that. If you neutralize Sam Simmons, I don't have a lot of forward guys that are shocking teams right now. But that's why I'm wondering, is it that much of a task? And when I say that, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Sam because that's not where I'm going with it. It's not that he's easy to contain.
00:39:17
Speaker
if you look up and down Exeter, it's it's the the day viewers, right? And as much as you know, and you're right to dislike him as a beginning the praise that he was getting from the what the fuck were they talking about anyway? Yeah, if Dave viewers is scoring your tries, you got a problem anyway. So and so yeah. So who else do you really have to worry about though?
00:39:48
Speaker
Like Johnny Gray and Johnny Hill are kind of tough to tackle, but you say, okay. So, you know, they're not going to break the line. Your double tackles there. Other than that, you put your fastest forward on, on Sam Simmons. You say, look, that's your job. You follow him. You help make the tackle every time he's, he gets the ball. And you can do that. You can take one of your guys out of defense and just mark him because they don't really have much else as a threat.
00:40:15
Speaker
Right. And, you know, back, Baxter, like you got to get away from number one, you got to get away from Ian Whitten. He is useless. That was just
00:40:25
Speaker
You're taking Woodburn off for him, like what the fuck? First of all, why is he even on your- Why is it? Where is fucking no Cordero? Like what the- Josh Hodge, like some of these two guys can turn it on and give you that spark you need because they needed it. That's by the time Leinster kind of took control of this thing, they needed that spark. Ian Whitten is not going to give you that by any means whatsoever. Like what the fuck? I mean, just absolutely stupid. Right. I'm sorry.
00:40:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And then, so your pack features Vermeulen, who I can respect. Yours, who is just a caveman. Sam Skinner, who's a bit of a hybrid sometimes. He can play second row. He can play six. And Kirsten, who's basically a second row. And again, same mold is almost a similar mold as Skinner. So where is your true seven? Where is your seven?
00:41:20
Speaker
where's where like capstick but that is it that's that's the guy like you need that he has no balance to this back row right if it's Sam Simmons and everybody else you need some balance to this back row and that is the problem right there and Leinster knew it why they said you know what we're gonna pick on Sam Simmons and if somebody else can beat us cool yep
00:41:41
Speaker
And then Tommy O said, yeah, I'll step up and take that challenge. And then they're like, oh, okay, well, we'll just make sure you don't do anything again either. I mean, there was like, even HOG was fought by. Well, Ghosty, yeah. Yeah, just a...
00:41:57
Speaker
But that, that all comes down to, you know, that, that no, no fetchers in that pack, except for, you know, obviously the exception of Sam, no disrespect, but right. You can always stop one. So you got to have some, some attacking in that lineup. And that's really the exit or pretty much all year is that the fact that they can attack, you know, can't really challenge the defense. Some of them, they can. Yeah. Some, some of them, they don't know to stop Sam Simmons. They don't care if they just play their normal defense and they're stupid like that.
00:42:25
Speaker
Those are the ones that get torn apart. On the other side of the coin, the boys in blue, loads and loads and loads of credit needs to go to Ross Byrne. Clangers. When Sexton went down,
00:42:45
Speaker
there are a lot of people that may have worried. And really, if you know, this lancer team, you shouldn't have because Ross Burns been doing this the whole time. Like this is he's been controlling this team and running this team for quite a while now. So that shouldn't have been worrisome to anybody that wanted to lancer to win this match. And he showed it for sure. So I applaud him and
00:43:08
Speaker
Obviously, there's a lot of other guys that stepped up huge in this match. Larmor with two tries. And he just found he found ways to get a bolt down. I was like, that works. Got him. Yep. Got it. Yep. And and you saw James Lowe had a couple of hammer hammerhead plays, but he he he knew he didn't have a good six nation. So he's trying to impress again, or all over again. He knows he has to. He's kind of back to that square one, which sucks, but still RV. So he knows it.
00:43:36
Speaker
And, you know, good credit to him. Hugo Keenan looks every bit the form he's been the whole time. Yeah, this, this, this Leinster team played quite well at the same time. So don't take anything away from them at all. I mean, it's, it's, it's easy to make it sound easy. But that, yeah, Leinster played their balls off and all credit to them. You know, Vanderflair was amazing. Yes, of course.
00:44:03
Speaker
So they had all the pieces that you need to beat an extra team. And as soon as they finally woke up, they started to do everything they needed to do. And it was easy to do. And it also helps when you have a, you know, I recall Ruddock, Van Der Fleer and Conan all taking significant carries. Yeah, 13, nine and 11. Fuck, you do that and you look across the board. Dave Uwers had 21.
00:44:31
Speaker
Dave Ewers is your leading carrier. Dave Ewers was your leading carrier. There is a problem. You are not winning a match with him having the most carries. Right. Vermilen with five. Simmons with seven. Johnny Gray, Johnny Hill, nine and ten.
00:44:47
Speaker
I mean, they had more than doing. Yeah, it's not good. Three players, three year forwards have more carries than Sam. Yeah. What are you doing? So I like these stats. These are great. But yeah, but that's how you beat a team like Exeter and our Leinster, both with great defenses, but you throw, you know, you split whatever 40 carries between three players, not
00:45:11
Speaker
Dave Ewers. Yeah. Jesus. What the fuck are you doing? Why is he carrying that much? Like that doesn't make any sense. I mean, in a sense, if Leinster's game plan was let's make one of these fucking idiots carry it a bunch. It worked. Yeah. The thing is, if you're if you're Leinster and you're looking up and down that cheese roster, who do you want getting 21 carries? Which one are you picking? He's probably near the top of the list. No doubt.
00:45:39
Speaker
Right. I don't want LCD getting 21 carries. No, I don't because he will do damage. Yeah. So and although maybe, you know, maybe Jack Monder is probably bad if you're strong. Yeah, you don't want that either. But, you know, different than that. Right. Fuck. Okay. Jack Monder having more than a couple of carries usually indicates that something went wrong.
00:46:00
Speaker
So anyway, it's the right team one, end of story. And I'm sorry, yes, England get no semifinalists in this case. That is deserved. Neither team rocked up. Oh, yeah, which goes on to ask, to beg the question. I know that's not really the term, but fucking, how much better is England rugby? And I'm putting on my troll hat here. How much better is England rugby as a whole when Saracens were the premiership?
00:46:28
Speaker
Obviously it's, it's got something to it. I don't think there's a, I don't think you can question it and say there's nothing to it. Right. No, no team makes it past the quarterfinals. The, in the, in the, um, champions cup. There's what, what they finished fourth, fifth in six nations, um, because they're playing, because their best players aren't really prepared. No, they weren't prepared at all.
00:46:54
Speaker
Well, not to mention the coach fucking sucks, but that's that's a different story of a different day. They still went to the World Cup finals with those players. So and now they're they're dropped like a fucking stone in the Six Nations because they're not ready. So there it is. Yeah, there. I said this.
00:47:13
Speaker
I think it's obvious. We'll see how it goes from here out. Sunday's matches, there was so much bad about this. This was an opportunity for top 14 and rugby in general to have good adverts, and it was not good at all, at all. 160 minutes. No tries. Zero tries, more than 160 minutes. And there was not like,
00:47:39
Speaker
The rugby wasn't that good. You can manage that and have good rugby. The rugby wasn't that good. The team that played the best was probably Toulouse. And that's it. They were a bit of a shell of their normal selves. And I understand these are two teams or four teams that all know each other quite well. And it was just, wow. It was just awful. But that's the thing. None of them tried to score tries.
00:48:06
Speaker
No, none of these teams. They got a penalty and they said, OK, I'm going to kick for points. And that was it. There was no, hey, let's go for corner this time. Let's let's let's try to because you need somebody to do that. If nobody does that, this is what you get. You know, if nobody if nobody decides that they want to have some balls, this is the kind of rugby you get. And that's just not this is this is why I hate.
00:48:29
Speaker
taking the points, you know, that the whole, you know, going by the book of taking the points when, you know, the flow of the game and say, you know what, this is our game. Fuck that. We're going to score. Try. Yeah. Um, you know, to, you know, Bordeaux and Bordeaux, it sucks that Camille shot had to leave this game early. Um,
00:48:51
Speaker
Jelly Bear had the Clangers to hit the winner. But really, in between that, there wasn't much. There really wasn't. And that's why I'm kind of happy that Rossing didn't win. No, they didn't deserve it. No, fuck you guys. As much as I love the players, the individual players. That's your match. This is your match to lose. And they totally screwed it up.
00:49:18
Speaker
And you didn't try to win. Yeah. Baloney played quite good in shots place. And I understand playing 80 as a, as a hooker is not a picnic, but at the same time, like there was a lot more they could have done as a team. And it was really, really unfortunate to see that, that whole thing. So, um,
00:49:37
Speaker
Yeah, the players that they have did not do the job they needed to step up and do. And that was him on the field. I like right. That was one guy I was waiting till he can score out of nowhere. Where the fuck was he? Right. He just took the day off.
00:49:53
Speaker
Good Lord, like when I see that much it's it's the day viewers thing if I see a lot more of currently bill, including him having to. Did he yeah he he right he had a blood sub. So he was off for 10 minutes. Even so I saw him doing a lot more and more involved in him off and that's not.
00:50:11
Speaker
I love currently Beal, but I want you as a center better. Yes. Yeah, exactly. And as a person. But right. Yeah. Where the fuck is him off? Where the fuck?
00:50:25
Speaker
Yep. Not good. Joseph too. Didn't, it was, was. Yeah. He could, he could have easily taken over this match had he decided to. And really it just, it was as if they, this team, this, this Rossing team decided they didn't want to take this game by the scruff of the neck. Yeah. Cause that was really sad. He's the guy you want running in the loose inside the other teams 22. And they just didn't really.
00:50:51
Speaker
That's not the game they played. Nope. So yeah, you just basically took your best player, one of your best runners in the forward, certainly just right out of the game. Yeah, why not, right? And then over to Marcel Michelin. Yeah, just not a whole lot better, honestly. You know, we lost Camille Lopez early and that was unfortunate for Claremont.
00:51:18
Speaker
The players that you read on all four of these teams vote. On these two teams, I see Penno, Matsushima, Moala, Raka, Yato,
00:51:33
Speaker
Fritz Lee, and then even, you know, going to the bench, Bessie, and Eteria, like, for Claremont, and then Toulouse, you have the names like Marchand, and Cano, and Tolofoa, and Yup, and Dupont, and Intimac, and, you know, LaBelle played pretty well the other weekend, he disappeared. Chelsland Colbay was more or less a ghost.
00:51:58
Speaker
It's very unfortunate to have, and even Malvaca off the bench for Toulouse as their backup worker.
00:52:05
Speaker
There the spark possibility was there. Yeah. Fucking hell. He is like even him. I was like, we might get something out of this. Nope. Nope. And I was impressed by Zach Holmes. I'll say that I thought I liked, I liked what I saw of him, but I just didn't see like, you know, but that's, that's okay. Put it this way. That's what I would want from him is his performance. Right. But, um,
00:52:31
Speaker
It's that everybody else kind of, so I want to give him credit for playing up to his standard, being one of the few who. Yeah. Right. It's like, good job. You did everything you were supposed to do. Sorry. Your teammates didn't fucking help you out. Right. So it was shit. Yeah, it was, it was quite, it was quite shit, but we have our semi-finalists. We have, yeah, this feels a little bit like champions. Cup of old with Leinster and a bunch of French teams.
00:52:56
Speaker
So we have Toulouse playing Bordeaux on Saturday, May 1st, and then we have La Rochelle and Leinster playing on May 2nd. Should be very interesting. I think we know the likeliest outcome here, but we'll see. With Toulouse playing Bordeaux, that's probably more of a problem for Toulouse.
00:53:16
Speaker
then La Rochelle playing one star, I think one star could take over. But if La Rochelle played like they did last week, who knows? Yeah, who knows? That was a fucking yeah. So we'll see what they got. It'd be kind of a very much like you said, from from day to day. I think the the all French match is going to be like the two all French matches last week. And La Rochelle Leinster is going to be like the Saturday matches last week. Fucking crackers. So we'll see how that goes. But yeah, I I test.
00:53:45
Speaker
Toulouse and Leinster will be our finalist, but we'll see what happens come. Leinster will be playing kind of gaming matches almost or, you know, exhibition fixtures and obviously Toulouse and the other teams are gonna be all tucked into top 14 and trying to battle for that. So we'll see how that goes.
Critiques and Commentary on Rugby Coverage
00:54:06
Speaker
Okay, quick on the whip around and oh, good Lord. I'm sorry if you watched MLR this past weekend.
00:54:14
Speaker
I can't tell you what the fuck is wrong with the commentary team that did the LA and arrows game as well as the Austin and Nola team. This is the commentary team that is home. That is the home commentary team for Nola. They are awful. Oh, they are awful. They are terrible. They are there is grass growing that is way more exciting than these guys. And yes, that's true too. And just
00:54:42
Speaker
or even the teams, even the plug, like, you know, can't even barely do the homework to identify players. Right. Yeah. So they're they're awful. But as far as the scores go, L.A. beat Toronto 4316. Austin scored a scored one at the death to be NOLA, San Diego, Wausau, Houston, 32, 34. Hey, Houston scored points. Who knew? Rob Shaw separated his shoulder in an active match. Unfortunately, Seattle beat
00:55:10
Speaker
Utah 20 to 15 Seattle finally woke up and then New York Utah is not terrible, I guess. No, they're not bad. We put a good stick on them. And then New York beat Atlanta down in ATL 27 to 17 free Jackson back in action this weekend. It's gonna be awesome with does he in Tembo on cards that will be pleasant. Yeah, we've been talking about their their back row being
00:55:36
Speaker
A little bit more bolstered. A little, yeah. Should be nice. I'm looking forward to it. I will enjoy it. Same. Is it on fucking NSN plus again? Might be.
00:55:47
Speaker
I'm really annoyed by this. Why bother going with the rugby network when NSM just over, like, steps in and fucks us. Flacks it out. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. Yeah. I agree. But yeah, if you're out there and you can watch the rugby network, please do so. It's free. And actually, what I have tended to do now is just VPN around it. So move. Yeah, do that to the best of our abilities over here. Right. Okay. So watch for the other rugby network, so. Yeah. Not illegally. I just VPN into it from
00:56:20
Speaker
Yeah, right. All right. That starts it thing that we'd like to do over here. Let's do it. Let's do it. Do I start your baton up first here? Yes. All right.
00:56:36
Speaker
These teams are kind of mediocre defensively, but they're, you know, that means more fun for attack. Uh, but the Highlanders are strong against the fly halves, loose forwards and locks, but they're weak against the front rows, outside backs and centers, which is probably not a great place to be in super rugby. Um, the blues are strong against locks and outside backs. Um, they're weak against the front rows, the centers and the scrum halves. So, uh, for the Highlanders, um,
00:57:01
Speaker
Front row is a go in this one. Mitch Hunt, Tom Tio Tompkinson, and Scott Gregory. I kind of like how they're doing this because they're keeping Gregory away from the wing where he can't. Where he screws up a bunch. Right. But they're keeping him on for his attack. And he is actually a pretty ballsy defender. So good for him and Josh Ioani. So, yeah, I like what I'm seeing from my center, from the centers of the Highlanders team this week.
00:57:25
Speaker
On the other side for the Blues, their front row, Caleb Clark, of course, Reiko Ioannoni, Mark Talea, Parafetta are all good to go. Right. Chiefs Crusaders, Chiefs are obviously, Leakey Crusaders are a little bit stronger in defense for fantasy purposes. For the Chiefs, Caelan Bosheer, the other Bosheer, but pretty decent.
00:57:50
Speaker
Even against, yeah, he scored some points. So even against this tough crusaders team, I would give him a thumbs up, especially since some people are going to be looking for things to get away from, like Artie, you know, you gotta find an option besides him. Brad Weber is absolutely 100% still worth the play, even though crusaders are one against half backs or near the top of that either way. He's a different type. Yeah, he's a completely different mold. He's one of those one that's almost indefensible. So if he's in the lineup, you're playing him.
00:58:17
Speaker
Chiefs front rows are gonna have a tough matchup this week I'm not saying sit them. But man, again, we talked about last week with the whole thing where you can't really set a front row but man, those expectations, you know, maybe if you can set up a home run on another position try and do so. Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker
on the other side of it for the Crusaders. Colin Grace, good performer at Loose Forward for the Crusaders and Chiefs are worse to cancel Loose Forward or at least down there. So whoops, fine Ganukku. After last week, I think the Crusaders would be smart to find him a spot in the 15 from here out. So I would play him for sure. Jack Goodhue, if he's healthy, he came off injured.
00:58:52
Speaker
He is not the same center. He was for fantasy last year. So I would go ahead and find somebody else. Maybe you can probably trade bait. That's that's a name. So just here you go. Jack good you who wants it. You'll find somebody worthy of grabbing a hold of that.
00:59:08
Speaker
Over to the Aussies, Force versus Warataz. This is interesting. It'll be Force hosting the team that they've already beaten. That'll be the first time in a while for them. But they're also two just godawful fantasy defenses. They're eight and ten in the comp.
00:59:26
Speaker
But they're also not, these aren't great scoring teams, so it's not like there's much to choose from here. So for the force, start their fly half, whoever it is, if it's McIntyre, Miyati, go. Kane Koteca, Byron Ralston, everyone else, yeah.
00:59:44
Speaker
Um, on the other side for the Waratahs, the guys who do score for them should, should score very well. So Harrison, Foketty, Newsome, Maddox. Um, those, those are guys who I'm hoping to open up points. Newsome, um, um, is Viren towards show me territory. So this is like the last time I'm going to, this is, this is his last go. Your last chance. Yeah.
01:00:06
Speaker
You're on warning. Oh man. All right. Um, rebels and Brumbies. This will be very interesting, uh, concerning last week's results for both teams.
01:00:18
Speaker
Dan Haler-Petty sounds like he'll be available soon. So keep your eyes peeled for that one. If he's out there, play him. Michael Wells, probably the most consistent loose forward for the Rebels. So if you're in need of that, that's a good spot to go. Back to the Stacy Ealy shit show. Without Hodge, and God, I hope he's okay. That was a nasty injury. Without him, he becomes irrelevant again. So that goes by by especially against Brumby's.
01:00:47
Speaker
Sorry Stacy for the Brumbies. This will be interesting because they don't have a whole lot to play for right now. They're firmly the home team for the semifinal right now. They can't get above the Reds and they really can't be caught, so we'll see how this goes.
01:01:03
Speaker
Anyway, so Tom Banks, he's definitely been the back on fire, outside back on fire for Brumby. So if he's in, you're playing him, duh. Isaac Fiennes might be your halfback this week for the Brumby's because he's, again, we talked about, as I mentioned, this could potentially be a nothing game for them. So they may just rest guys. On the other side of it, Ryan Monaghan, who's the other halfback, not the same type as Fiennes. So I'm not sure I'd be really excited to play him.
01:01:34
Speaker
Uh, of the weeks of the weeks, uh, my start of the week, I mentioned him kind of in passing. I focused on the guy that I'm.
01:01:44
Speaker
putting, waving a stink eye at, um, but lolly kyford kettie, uh, the Warren has, um, has a very good matchup and he's been scoring fairly well recently. So that's the start of the week. Okay. My, my guy, uh, students team to near possible victory last week. And I think he's got him to find another big performance, uh, with a much weaker side and some big things on the cards for his club. So for my start of the week, first round,
01:02:11
Speaker
9 of Super Rugby. It's former Jack Haggewatt race and current force fly half Diego Miyati. There you go. And yes, I was saying to start him if he's starting. Yep. Agreed. For the sits of the week. This is a
01:02:28
Speaker
I'm nervous about this one, but you mentioned that the other way around, but the Chiefs are number one in the comp against the front row. My sit of the week is the Crusaders front row. That's ballsy. I like it. They also haven't been scoring all that well.
01:02:45
Speaker
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, Cody Keller has been himself for whatever reason, and he's, he gets it done. For my solo week, he's been pretty good this season. I'm not picking on him and saying he's been awful, but I'm picking on because of the opposition. He's about to play and his popularity. His position is going to take, yeah, his opposition is going to take the hammer down because it's going to help them secure a home final if they do. And I have a feeling they do, they're going to just,
01:03:12
Speaker
kill his position and that sucks. So I might say the week for round nine of super obese chief flyer in a nice tutorial. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I don't disagree. We return to the prem.
01:03:27
Speaker
Oh, what is this English rugby? What is this thing that we do here? Full noise. Yeah, full noise. I'll be good. I haven't seen these teams. I can't remember the last time we saw these teams. All these teams going full bore, we'll see. Right. So yeah, but I'm excited for it, obviously, as one is. So, but I kick it off with Saints versus the Irish.
01:03:53
Speaker
Saints, so what I'm interested in is the Saints have had their week off. No, no, they played didn't they? They played last week. Okay, right. They still lost. Oh, they lost. That's right. Nothing to play for. So, you know, everything's going into the into the prem at this point. So,
01:04:12
Speaker
They'll score. They'll give up some points, but they'll score as we've seen recently. Yes, they will put up points. So basically the whole back line, you know, whoever's at nine, I'm guessing it'll be Mitchell, bigger, Slide Home, Nair Voro, Francis Hutchinson, Collins Freeman for a bank. It's just just fucking play them. On the other side, for the Irish, you know, it's the usual suspects, you know, the
01:04:36
Speaker
that Ollie Hassell Collins, Theo Murphy Clues, Curtis Rona, Ben Loader, Parton, like if they're playing, yeah, go for it. Because, you know, maybe not so much in the forwards, but the Saints will leak in the backs. Yeah, no doubt. All right, Exeter and Woss. Exeter, tough outfit as usual, Woss are a wee bit leaky. And we'll see what this Woss attack looks like. That's kind of going to be the question mark in this match, I believe.
01:05:01
Speaker
For Exeter, Gray is just 5% owned. I'm actually surprised about this. He's super consistent. I would absolutely pay the price for him. He's a little expensive. That's the only problem. But man, he's every bit that you need in the second row. So there's worse off. Anyway, if you got him, play him. Joe Simmons is back to being Mr. Consistency at FlyApp, especially in the FRD department. So I give him a thumbs up, especially in this match.
01:05:25
Speaker
Guy kind of poo poo'd on before Giannis Kirsten, too highly owned, not consistent enough at all. If you're in a pinch in FRD play him, he's a lock so that you could do worse. On the other side of the coin for the wasp, Adaglu despite the opposition still gets the green light for me in this one, and he absolutely should. Tom Willis gonna be a forward heavy match because it's Exeter. He's one of their better ones, so I give him a thumbs up.
01:05:49
Speaker
And then, man, on the other side, I love the kid, but Umaga, another two highly owned guy, not having a good year, wrong opposition on top of all that. So I'd put him on the pond. Yeah, give him a seat. Off to what's sure to be a cracker of a match sale versus Gloucester sale. It could be interesting. Actually, this could be interesting because Gloucester, again, have shown that there
01:06:14
Speaker
they're capable of putting shit together. And sailors have shown that they're capable of falling shit apart. So, you know, I make fun, but it could be actually a cracker of a match potentially. But for the fantasy-wise, Acker, Dendupriya, AJ, Quirk, and FRD, I think, even if he's a backup.
01:06:37
Speaker
He seems to have it in him. I don't know. There's enough scrum hats that aren't so much scoring points if they're starting Faf. Whereas Quark will put up like, you know, close to 10 even in just a 20 minute patch. So worth a start even if he's a backup. On the other side,
01:06:59
Speaker
You look for Gloucester, you're looking at Slater, Barton, and Louis Reesamot are the guys, they're really the horses that I think you're going to be relying on this the rest of this year. Give a sit to one Jonathan May. Yeah, definitely. No, not against sale. Yeah, that's the worst opposition for that for sure.
01:07:17
Speaker
All right, Quinn's in Worcester. This will be interesting. We'll see what both these teams look like, especially off some rest. For the Quinn's, Lina or Green should be an auto start at this point, especially this week. Give them a thumbs up. James Chisholm, I'm actually gonna recommend this week.
Fantasy Rugby Insights
01:07:36
Speaker
It could be, I know, right? How's that taste coming out? It could be an option with the soft opposition this week. That's the one thing.
01:07:44
Speaker
Um, on the other side of the coin for the Quinn's Garcia Botta props are tough to nail down. He's not the one I'm going to go look for. If anything for your Quinn's prop, you're going to go for low. So that's, that's the guy I would be looking for. Not Garcia Botta, uh, for the warriors, Venter, Francois Venter.
01:08:01
Speaker
Lawrence returning provides balance to that midfield. Not expected to do much necessarily this week as Quinn's are tough up the middle. But good long term, however long term that is at this point. I play him either way, honestly. I have him and I'm going to play him in a couple of leagues. So we'll see how that goes. Billy Searle could be the potential option at 10 this weekend. Oh, some people are going to be a little desperate for 10s. Some are hoarding them. And that's just how it goes. He's been playing. So yeah.
01:08:27
Speaker
So he's, he's probably going to be the starting 10. So I'd give that a thumbs up. Um, and on the other side, Ashton, avoid it. Not a great option unless you're super desperate. Isn't he suspended? Is he suspended? I thought he got banned because he needed a red card. Keep it that way. Yeah. Good. Keep it that way. Either way. But yeah, yeah, just, he's, he's not an option. I even want to go seek out like in FRD. I don't want to raise a rock, waste a roster spot on that. Right. No, thanks. Nope.
01:08:55
Speaker
over to, oh, sorry, not over, up, way up, Newcastle versus Bristol. You're the tune! Bristol are just...
01:09:06
Speaker
So speaking of teams that have really nothing to play for at this point and are arrested, that's Bristol, who lost two weeks ago and had a week off to stew about it while preparing to take on the prem and maintain their top position.
01:09:26
Speaker
I'm not sure I want to be Newcastle and I'm not sure I want to start anyone from Newcastle. So it's really the guys who are going to get their points no matter what, because of what they do. Byron McGuigan, Peterson, in the rugby mag will still have line outs and whatnot that'll be okay. And then Stevenson and Penny in the backs, certainly Stevenson from as a midi in FRD.
01:09:50
Speaker
Um, this is, but then get to the other side. It's fucking everybody. I mean, I was just going up and looking at that, you know, up and down where this, you know, this full noise Bristol team that we have, I don't think we've seen once this year.
01:10:02
Speaker
with because they have injury and all that stuff. But like Thacker gets back even that'll help too. Right. And then Vooey, Lewa to a Ben Earl, Nathan Hughes, urine, sheetie, red, radro, Connor, whoever the fuck is at wing, and mail ins is probably playing just going somewhere for sure. Oh, yeah. And sorry, Newcastle.
01:10:24
Speaker
Yeah, I love you guys. Thankfully, there's no relocation this year. Yeah. Oh, man. All right. To the Sunday match. Bath and Lester. Bath, obviously, we know are leaky and Lester actually fairly strong. So with that, we'll mirror. He's a middle. He's a midi playing outside back as we talked about Stevenson. And he looks good on top of that. He passes the eye test by far. So I'd give him a I'd give him a go if he's if he's in lineup. Can't read path is back. Give him a go if you have him. Go for it.
01:10:53
Speaker
No, don't even bat an eye. On the other side of it, Josh Mattivacy gotta see it now. Absolutely, I gotta see it, I'm sorry. I love him as a person and a player, but that is not fancy worthy right now.
01:11:05
Speaker
Uh, for the Tigers, uh, Nandolo should be on his return if he's not there yet. If he's in again, don't hook another one of those guys. You don't want to hesitate to throw in. Um, for the pack row, Luke Wallace could be a dark horse option this week scores well when he plays, especially in TRM and he's fairly cheap. So that would be somebody I would keep my eye out for, um, usually scores around 25 30. So that's pretty good. Um,
01:11:30
Speaker
very well. Not sure if I buy this hot streak he's on at three good games in a row. I'm waiting for the bottom to fall out at this point. I think it's this week. So there's that. I don't care how leaky bath are. He just he's not that good of a player. Other weeks. Other weeks. So I went with a guy who yeah, he's pretty pretty
01:11:55
Speaker
Standard is a guy who you're going to, you're going to play, um, this time, you know, yeah, he's not Sam Simmons, but you still would go not terrible having captained him this week. Uh, cause I like his matchup. Uh, and it's Harlequin's number eight, Alex Dombran. Yep. Well, don't start them now. Cause I started the
01:12:15
Speaker
Yeah, he's rested. He's angry. He's ready to lead his team into the semifinal at this point. See what you've done, Worcester. Yeah, I think he gets off to a flyer as well. So my start of the week is also a prem for Quinn's is a big, big ball carrying number 8 out of Stombran. All right. Ooh, really? All right. Also the week. Let's see what we got here. Probably not the same. Probably not the same. I mentioned him in mine and my wrap up of it. He's going up against sale and
01:12:38
Speaker
He pisses me off in general. Um, so I'd like it when I can kind of take a dump on him because he, I know he's going to get sale and probably won't do much. So it's, it's Jonathan may fucking sit him. I mean, uh, no, you fancy everybody else.
01:12:54
Speaker
Eddie won't, um, I say the week his club were recently eliminated from Europe and I'm not saying his fault, but he's just not the guy that should be taking the helm against opposition. He's playing this week in particular. Uh, I'm not sure he turns it around either. I do like him. I swear. I do love him. I swear. I really like him as a player, as a person, but my say the week for around 16, the prem is lost. Wylie veteran, Jimmy. Yes. We love we at the fantasy rugby podcast. Love.
01:13:24
Speaker
Jimmy got birth. Just. It's not his year. No, it's not. It's not his fault. Right. It's really not his fault. Yeah, he's looking. He's looking his age, unfortunately, and hopefully you can turn around because hell, I was saying the same thing about Mike Brown. So yeah, you can turn around on the diamond.
Champions League and Rugby Updates
01:13:42
Speaker
Yeah, quick whip through on the Champions League semi final and Champions Cup. Ben managed to just.
01:13:50
Speaker
You got the better George didn't you? No, no. But yeah, you know, George got you but George is also, George is ravaged because he's lost a lot of guys, said guys getting knocked out. So that's one championship matchup. The other one is Duncan is just taking it to Anton. On the bottom half of the bracket, it's me and Mark and Mark's blowing me out of the water and it's a pillow fight between Justin and Carrick.
01:14:18
Speaker
for the super rugby thing. Um, I actually did some week, but I played Justin and Justin just put a fucking score up. Oh, this, wait, these are, um, Oh shit. This is interesting. There's two weeks of the semi-final. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I get to play George again. Oh, so I get to play George again. Oh, absolutely. Oh, it's totally not over. This is great. All right. And he got you, he looks like he got you this week in super rugby though.
01:14:44
Speaker
Yeah, fuck. Well, what are you going to do? Yeah, this is why we give him the coffee because he's the fantasy rugby geek. Right. Well, I would. You know what the city thing is? I would be everybody else but Justin.
01:14:55
Speaker
And that's just fantasy for you right there. That's 100% fantasy for you. It is. Mark beat Carrick and a squeaker, not a squeaker, but it was also another pillow high fight. And this one was Duncan and Anton as well. Coming up this week, we have prem rugby returns. We have the run-in. We have three weeks left in FRD for our premiership. So hang on to your hats, kiddos, and buckles up.
01:15:19
Speaker
I'm gonna take on George. Ben's gonna get his crack at Carrick. It's all in conference match ups for the next three weeks. You're gonna replay your conference. Justin and Anton are gonna do battle the Safas and then Mark and Duncan get to throw down. Going down to Super Rugby this weekend. It'll be, shit, I missed it. Where'd it go? There it goes. Wait a minute, get back here. I think I, yeah, I do. I got you.
01:15:49
Speaker
Yep. We're playing each other. We have each other. So the dollar is back. Although I think it's advantage you at this point. Okay. I figured we were even. Yeah. We were close to you and I think it might be an advantage you after the other week. Mark and Duncan are going to take each other on. He, he, George and Carrick as well as Justin and Anton get to do battle again. Have fun boys.
01:16:12
Speaker
You guys can make a little side bet for the Sappas. And for those that might need a wee bit of a refresher, the Prem TRM rankings right now, Anton leads the group and it's everybody else chasing, although not too many people that far behind you and Duncan are keeping it close. Eric is holding up the bottom of the league at this point. He's about 200 points behind Justin. So, and good on Mark for not, this is his first time going around with TRM and he's a, he's in six, so he's not bottom. So good on him.
01:16:41
Speaker
Good job. Way to be, Mark. Okay. Let's do pick them and we can get the fuck out. All right, then. Highlanders and Blues. This means a lot to the Blues. Yeah. And I think the Highlanders are realizing they're creaky and I think they're... Yeah. So I'm going to go. I'm going to go Blues.
01:17:02
Speaker
Okay, yeah, me too. Crusaders and Chiefs. Sorry, this is not the year that the Chiefs quite do it. I'm not picking the Chiefs. We put it this way. You know, we talked about last week, the Crusaders coming off of a loss. Do you think they're really pleased with that win?
01:17:21
Speaker
They're not amazing about it. No last place team took him to bonus time. No, so I expect that she used to feel the full wrath of the Crusaders didn't either weather weathered very well or didn't quite face. So yeah, either way to disappointing performances for the Crusaders in a row means bad news for the next team. Over to you force and war toss force can put pressure on the rebels with this one.
01:17:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think the water tons are just I think they they've packed it in after firing Penny, which was wrong, but right. And this is not the they're not going to respond the way the twins did. It's not that situation. Right. Rebels and Brumby's. I'm going to gamble that this is a depowered Brumby's team, and that's still a good team, but I still think the Rebels get it done. I'm going to stick with the Brumby's.
01:18:13
Speaker
Fair enough. It's still not terrible pick. Yeah. I think there's going to be a little bit of a, let's make sure we, you know, you don't let a team off the mat. No, I can certainly, there's still a chance potentially. So, yeah. All right. Up to the prime, Northampton and London, Irish. Saints. Yeah.
01:18:33
Speaker
Yeah, they're at home. Actually, I just realized that they're granted. It doesn't mean a lot right now, but they've been playing. They've been playing better. And they have and they've been playing. So although Irish did, too, but but the the the Saints have been playing and playing extremely well. So now they pushed all through this past weekend. I appreciate it as best we can. And they had that comeback the week before. Exeter and wasp. Sorry, wasp. Yeah. Exeter. Exeter.
01:19:00
Speaker
sale and glosser. Sanderson's gonna fucking fire some rockets up some asses. So I went back to sharks. Yeah, I'll be interested in seeing how they how they respond, but I think they win.
01:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, Quincy Worcester. Sorry. Sorry, Warriors. You're the stoop. So yeah, I knew Castle Bristol. Bristol. Yeah, stop. He's just fucking mud hole. Yeah, and they've kind of come come good and come come correct. And lambs kind of realized the error of his ways when he was a little pissy the other weekend and has taken it on the chin now. Yeah, at least you know, he accepts that. Bath and Lester. Bath.
01:19:41
Speaker
Yeah. Shit. I got to catch you anyway. I'll pick luster tigers. But yeah, I think I will still be cheering for the blue, black and white, but I'll also have it. It's just business. It's not what I want to do with what I have to do.
01:20:04
Speaker
It was it was only my job. Okay, all right. So free jacks are back in action. We're back to the problem this weekend. Six nations is on Friday. It looks like I'll double double confirm that. But that's what the website says at least seven. No, they're both on they're both 17 April. They're both on Saturday. Okay, according to the website, which I fucking hope the website's right.
01:20:32
Speaker
websites, right? All right, I keep seeing things wrong. Obviously, I can't read. I don't know what to tell you. Anyway,
01:20:38
Speaker
We'll be back next week as usual. We'll be back on our game for Saturday or Friday with our starts and sits for that whole thing. So we'll be back to that. Other than that, fancy rugby podcast at gmail.com. We are starting a second tier of Champions League for next year. So if you're interested, get in touch with us. Get in touch with one of the guys. Yeah, this has been awesome, by the way. It's really cool to have all the same guys around for one league.
01:21:06
Speaker
So yeah, I will definitely do a second one. And I would encourage people to do it. It's a lot. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. And the cool thing is, the way things are set up right now is we can see a league, but still let everybody else play in it right now. Not us. So that's the good news about all that. So yeah, second tier, if you if you were interested in and you just kind of couldn't quite commit, this is your chance. We're looking for eight more owners. So
01:21:30
Speaker
I don't highly recommend things that aren't fun. Even if it would benefit me. This way anyway. No, no, this is a lot of fun. It's pretty cool. Yeah, so we'll be doing that. Tweet at us if you want because you clearly must be wasting time before it works. Other than that, we'll catch you guys next week and thanks a lot for hanging out with us. Later. Cheers.