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World Team Trials Preview - Session 79
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We preview the World Team Trials, which are going down this weekend in Louisville, Kentucky! 8 MFS weights with plenty of exciting action and anticipated matchups. We also briefly cover the Kyle Snyder news at the end of the episode.
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Transcript
Introduction and Session Overview
00:00:01
Speaker
Yeah, we're ready. ready Welcome back to the barn session. I'm Sammy Coakley and Ryan and Reese Coakley are here too. Hello. Coop will join us here pretty soon.
00:00:12
Speaker
Coop will join us. He's also a Coakley. He's eating. Well, so is Lennon. Lennon joins us now. She's waiting for her bottle to cool off and then Coop is finishing his dinner. here he's He's going to come join us this episode.
00:00:23
Speaker
Lennon, not a fan of a hot bottle.
00:00:28
Speaker
Okay. You guys want to just jump right into it? What is what think? Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah. Uh, I just want to, i'll put this out there right now. Not really interested in talking about Kyle Snyder. feel like everything that's been, you know, that people need to say has been said.
00:00:44
Speaker
Um, so there's that. And, uh, yeah, let's get onto the actual wrestling. The U S open already happened. And now we're moving onto to the world team trials.
Kyle Snyder's Controversy
00:00:55
Speaker
and and i know to start that We're not talking about the biggest thing to happen to wrestling in a long time. Well, I don't like that the biggest thing to happen in wrestling in a long time is What does it mean that he's facing a temporary suspension by SafeSport?
00:01:10
Speaker
It is in, they are like pending the investigation. So they're, they're getting more of the details surrounding the actual situation and probably going to, uh, see. He's gonna be fine. Safe sport really cares if you're, if you're sexually abusing children, that's all safe sport really cares about. What can safe sport do prevent you from competing?
00:01:35
Speaker
yeah yes if you have If you're in violation of SafeSport, then you will be suspended yes from USA Wrestling. so But I'm guessing they're going to dig through as much as they can within the next month, and then they'll make their decision. He will probably be fine.
00:01:48
Speaker
All right. Everyone say goodbye to Lennon. Bye, Lennon. bi re model ah Bye, Bye-bye. Hi, Carly. Hi, Carly. Bye, Carly.
Wrestling Strategies and Predictions
00:02:02
Speaker
Okay, Reus, 125 kilos. Why are you starting the top? We're starting from the top because the bottom is where it's the most interesting. Okay. Is that fair? I like it. You like that idea?
00:02:14
Speaker
outside going to split screen here. Okay. 125. seeds are out, and I'll read them in order. Demetrius Thomas, Trent Hilger, Jordan Wood, Christian Lance, Lucas Stoddard.
00:02:26
Speaker
ah Don't even have Hayden Zillmer anymore because he dropped down to 97 So it's probably a... Aiden Zomer dropped down to 97? Yeah. yeah yeah That's big news.
00:02:41
Speaker
Did you say why? Yeah. Pending investigation, right? Plus, he... can why he but took So he does not think he can make the team at heavyweight anymore and when he's already done it once?
00:02:54
Speaker
I'm guessing the performance that he had at the U.S. Open was discouraging. my guess, right? He took third, didn't he? Yeah, beat by Demetrius Thomas. It's not terrible loss. like The dude's kind of been figuring it out slowly here and there. I don't know.
00:03:12
Speaker
I just think he's maybe, I don't know. But I also know that he like walks around at like what, 235, think is what they said. Yeah, I don't think 97 is a crazy drop for him.
00:03:25
Speaker
No. I mean, it' so it'll be... be He's going to have to maybe not eat quite as many... I'm not putting in as many calories as he's used to, but that'll be nothing.
00:03:35
Speaker
ah Yeah. So i think it's a good I think it's a good choice in my mind for him ah because I really don't think anybody's beating Wyatt Hendrickson. But out of this group, I'd see like Jordan Wood and Demetrius Thomas being the top two guys.
00:03:51
Speaker
Whoever wins that match moves on. Who else is there? Trent Hilger, Christian Lance, Lucas Stoddard.
00:04:02
Speaker
Give me Wyatt Hendrickson versus Christian Lance, baby. ah rematch? Wasn't that a match back in Blood Round 2021 or 2022?
00:04:14
Speaker
Did Christian beat Wyatt? No, I think I'm thinking of Luis Hernandez. Yeah, Christian beat Wyatt. Yeah, yeah But was it in the blood round? No, it was round of 16, I think. Okay.
00:04:27
Speaker
I might be wrong. i would
00:04:31
Speaker
Give me a second. I'll figure it out You got it. I'm quick. I'm quick with the fingers. But yeah, I mean, just i don't see any of these guys really throwing their...
00:04:47
Speaker
Hat in the ring? Throwing their name in the hat? Their hat is already in the ring. hat Yeah, but in a way that like is really competitive with Wyatt. ah Yes, he did beat Wyatt Henderson at the 2022 NCAAs, but I think it was the round of 16. I think you're right, Ryan.
00:05:03
Speaker
I'm pretty sure you beat Luis Fernandez in the blood round in sudden victory. Okay. ah yeah Preventing Cornell further. I just remember him winning Christian Lance and winning him and then Yeah, that was really cool. Really cool moment.
00:05:21
Speaker
Tough for Cornell. They still don't have a heavyweight All-American, but... People talk about... All time? People talk about... They had one, like, way back in the day. Like, 50s or 60s, I think?
00:05:34
Speaker
1850s.
00:05:38
Speaker
I don't think far back. The way it didn't even exist, then. Pre-slavery.
00:05:48
Speaker
ah Okay, sure. But I guess i talk about not really pre-slavery, pre-emancipation proclamation. Yes. Pre all of that.
00:06:00
Speaker
People talk about Penn State. Slavery's been around forever. People talk about Penn State having like a drought at 125 or having an issue there. Cornell far and away has the that has one of the most long stretched issues with a with a singular weight class and it's a heavyweight.
00:06:16
Speaker
Never had an All-American there ever. Never. It's crazy for a team that has finished in the top two, what, like three times in the last 15 years, right? Obviously, they have some kind of discriminatory issue. They they so they discriminate towards heavyweights.
00:06:35
Speaker
Those big guys. They don't coach their heavyweights up. No. It's a coaching issue. Definitely a coaching issue. ah <unk> You're right on that one, Reece. That's why Gwiz left.
00:06:48
Speaker
He's like, i see yeah I see how it is here.
00:06:52
Speaker
You know, it's crazy. It's crazy how you're hitting the nail on the head every single with every single take here. yeah I'm trying to figure out like their best heavyweight recruit that they've had since I've been paying attention.
00:07:05
Speaker
It's either Luis Fernandez or Brendan Furman. What was that again? Luis Fernandez.
00:07:13
Speaker
and You guys are children. Grow up. We're Brennan Furman. Brennan Furman was super 32 champ and Luis Fernandez was a blood rounder for them. Wow.
00:07:29
Speaker
Sammy, have your balls dropped yet? No. I'm going to be eight feet tall. going be eight feet tall and nothing but hair.
00:07:38
Speaker
Nothing but hair. Just because you guys always talk about comma butt hair. the I want to move on 97 kilos. Big Harry monster.
00:07:50
Speaker
Are we going to reverse? Yeah, because I want to go from like generally least interesting to most interesting. ah Well, I'm most interested in Wyatt Hendrickson.
00:08:01
Speaker
He's not in this tournament. so True. Good point. Checkmate, bitch. 97 kilos ah starting from the top. Hayden Zillmer, Jonathan Aiello, Justin Rademacher, Eric Schultz, Gavin Hoffman, Christian Knott, Ethan Laird.
00:08:17
Speaker
Yeah. Roughly. Sure. Christian Lance to make the final X. That's what I predict. Give me, give me wood. Jordan would. Hell yeah. Lames. that what you did too, Sammy?
00:08:29
Speaker
Yeah. Lames. Lames. I know that's rude of me to not pick Christian Lance. No love for the four Hayes guy. I get it. All right. Give me Christian. money place Did he place for Fort Hayes?
00:08:42
Speaker
No, he went. He was blood round. He was one match out. And then he left. he did leave. Well, he didn't leave. Well, all right. So and then he was going to he came back. He tried to leave.
00:08:54
Speaker
Chaz wouldn't release him. He came back, blew his ACL first term of the year, second term the year, something like that. So he got that year back and then transferred to, man, he was going to go to NDSU.
00:09:08
Speaker
um ah Roger Kish was all over. Kish, yeah. and And after he tore his ACL, Kish dropped, like stopped talking to him or whatever. He had built a relationship with Dom Bradley, who was at Nebraska at the time. So he went to Nebraska with Dom.
00:09:25
Speaker
Dom Bradley was at Nebraska? Yep. Training, right? Wasn't he training there? Yep.
00:09:32
Speaker
Weird. Super weird. So, all right. You know, Dom, Dom competed well into his forties. So well into his forties.
00:09:42
Speaker
He's not that old. Sorry, Dom. I know you're not that old. You're barely older than me. I just wanted to say that. Dom Bradley, 88 years, still wrestling. 97 kilos.
00:09:56
Speaker
but yeah ninety seven
Deep Dive: Wrestling Athletes and Techniques
00:09:57
Speaker
kilos um So this way it's a lot more interesting with the addition of Justin Rademacher and Hayden Zillmer.
00:10:05
Speaker
I don't know what to pick here because I don't know if Zillmer is going to look worse at this lower weight or if he's going to be just too strong and too powerful for all these guys.
00:10:19
Speaker
think anybody outside the top three between Rademacher, Aiello and Zillmer, that's who you're going to get out of this. But to I don't know who. going to take Zilmer.
00:10:33
Speaker
He was ah rusty, you know. He was rusty at the open, and now he's he's probably got that rust knocked off. He's ready to go. Ready to kick some butt. Rust-ees. He took some rust-ees.
00:10:46
Speaker
Rust-ees. Nope. Oh, jeez. Nope.
00:10:55
Speaker
Oh, jeez. jeez. Oh, jeez. oh ah Give me Justin Rademacher. He just beat... Justin Rademacher? Yeah, he just beat the Cuban, who's pretty tough.
00:11:07
Speaker
Who? Arturo Silo Torres, I believe is his name. Never him, dude. He's pretty good. Cuba's washed up. All right. here He's are those an Olympian.
00:11:20
Speaker
Are they not washed? They're definitely not what they used to be. They used to be a world-level powerhouse, and they were just like... me here and there, you know? Yeah.
00:11:32
Speaker
They've got the greatest wrestler of all time, but no i ran probably not. Rinsed. Rinsed thoroughly during prep. But yeah, give me Rademacher. That's crazy. of h Age-level world medalist? with there There's nothing crazy about that.
00:11:46
Speaker
He's just a little boy. just Just a little boy. And I mean, it's it's an uphill battle definitely against against Hayden Zilmer, against Aiello. Those are two men.
00:11:57
Speaker
I'm a little sad that we're not seeing Trumbull. He would have been cool to see at this weight. Bumbly, bumbly. Where's he at? I'm guessing just sticking to trying to win an NCAA title. He was hurt, wasn't he? He was hurt in the postseason. Yeah, his knee.
00:12:11
Speaker
He was limping off the mat against ah Henderson. That's right. he' been Wasn't he hurt pretty much all year?
00:12:20
Speaker
I don't know, but he goes he forfeited it. He he wrestled at ACC's and then I don't know if he forfeited or what. I think he forfeited at ACC's. Yeah, something like that, right? Well, he got banned, didn't he?
00:12:36
Speaker
Oh, man. He beat him at ACC's. Someone beat him. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he got b lost to ACC's and then like forfeited out, I think. Maybe not. Yeah, he went 0-3. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he yeah he lost 4-1 to Dayton Pitzer and then ah wrestled two seconds of his next match against Neves and then medically forfeited to Conor Barkett.
00:13:00
Speaker
Needed a bid to get and then what? He took like fifth or sixth? No, fifth. yeah Fourth or third? Second? Fourth. It would have been either fourth or fifth. Fourth place. Because Schultz, he took he took fourth. He took fourth place.
00:13:14
Speaker
Schultz took third. Fifth place was Ben Keeter. Sixth Kirk? That makes
00:13:24
Speaker
Treffen. it Treffen was fifth. Keter was seventh?
00:13:32
Speaker
I don't remember. Either way. 97 kilos. Give me Rademacher. Ryan, who do you got? I also got Rademacher. yeah you ah you That's crazy. Are you going to win are you goingnna get a victory royale right now? I'm trying. trying but i I wanted to pick Rademacher the moment I saw him enter.
00:13:51
Speaker
Just so you guys know. Make me sick. You two make me sick. You can't do one thing. i like You can't do one thing. It actually helps me concentrate and think better when my brain is distracted with other shit. that Constant stimulation.
00:14:06
Speaker
Scientifically, i don't think that makes sense. Yeah, it does. All right. Freaking science, bitch. It does. Try again, Jamie. Okay.
00:14:19
Speaker
Reese, you want to move on? I would like to move on as well. Can we go down to the next weight class? 92 kilograms. 92 kilograms. One seed. Josh Barr. Aiden Sinclair.
00:14:31
Speaker
Mike Machiavelli. Dustin Plott. Patrick Brophy. ah Oh, did he not enter in on time? Jacob Cardenas is also in this weight. But is he not? So he's...
00:14:44
Speaker
You know, he's entered 100%. one hundred percent Sinclair, Cardenas, and Barr. Those are the guys. Those are the guys. Yeah. I mean, maybe Plot and Machiavelli can... Oh, yeah, yeah. Machiavelli,
00:14:56
Speaker
Throw him in there, too. Yeah. Yeah. Plot's a little small. I don't know, man. According to Cowboy Hasdani, Machiavelli, he might be getting past his prime. ah Yeah, he might be.
00:15:08
Speaker
Way past his prime. He's so old. Like me. His prime was like when he beat Colin Moore. There's nothing after that. so Scientifically speaking. scientific Right.
00:15:22
Speaker
I'm going to do a little bit of a bias for this one. Give me Jacob Cardenas. Three time U23 world medalist. So there's history to back it up. Aiden Sinclair.
00:15:34
Speaker
Two second places. eating He wants it. He's hungry. Very hungry. Dude, so he took he was runner-up at U20s last year. Runner-up at the U.S. Open in two age divisions this year. Yeah, he was ready. He was ready for the gold.
00:15:52
Speaker
I mean, he's gonna he's going to win the World Team Trials and then beat Trent Heidly? Probably not. No, he will win the trials. Okay. He will win fourth place.
00:16:04
Speaker
I'm picking... What? Semi-pro. Come on. yeahp yeah yeah I knew where you were going. yeah yep yeah Come on, Sammy, you JT. You're a freaking JT.
00:16:16
Speaker
Did you just call me a JT? Nobody called anybody a JT. Called you a cocksucker. That's honestly probably Will Arnett's best scene of all time.
00:16:30
Speaker
Name a better Will Arnett scene. I dare you. i need to I need to watch that movie. Dude, I have been... In a movie, actually, because he's got plenty of great scenes in Arrested Development. I have been on a ah Breaking Bad binge over the last three weeks.
00:16:46
Speaker
oh I have one episode left. Nice. One episode left? The best episode. You have the best episode left. Sweet. Looking forward to it.
00:16:59
Speaker
God bless. Oh, they're coughs. Never mind. rescind.
00:17:06
Speaker
sh rescind my blessing. All right. So I got Cardenas. Reese has Sinclair. Ryan has Sinclair. No, I didn't pick. who you got?
00:17:20
Speaker
I'm picking Barr. Pick a bar? Surprise, surprise, surprise. you bar i was working I was a bar guy during the season too. that's why i'm vi You Bible quoting Penn State loving Billy. Yeah, you and Flo, dude. Just love Josh Barr. I do love me some Josh Barr. And therefore all of Penn State.
00:17:42
Speaker
Yeah. and my But you collect Pokemon cards too, don't you? Big Sandusky guy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Pause. Stop there. That's where we draw the line.
00:17:57
Speaker
i like Penn State whenever they had Nick Suriano. Those were the days. so Yeah. That was pretty crazy when you think about it in hindsight. In hindsight, for sure. It doesn't match at all.
00:18:12
Speaker
ah Okay. 86 kilos. Kyle Dake, Chance Marsteller, Carter Starachi, Parker Keckisen, Marcus Coleman. that's a That's a nice weight right there. it's That's compact. Like the two seed.
00:18:27
Speaker
That is short but strong. Short but strong. Yep. how do we All right. So I'm gonna just going to ahead lay out. This is what I think going to happen.
00:18:38
Speaker
think Kyle Dake is going to walk to the finals where he'll wrestle.
00:18:46
Speaker
car' Chance Marsteller. And he's got Carter. I want him in ca one them to wrestle Carter. i want scar too i just don't think we're going to get it, guys. yeah know it's gonna suck out we don't get we get We only get one or the other.
00:19:00
Speaker
Freaking Parker couldn't. What? Did he lose to Chance? He did lose to Chance, yes. How could you do that, Parker? here's Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
00:19:12
Speaker
I don't know if Dake's necessarily going walk. I think Kekai's still a tough match. like He'll push it. he he won't Dake won't lose that match. He already wrestled him. I know, but wasn't it like four one or something like He pushed him out a bunch of times. like No problem. Got got two on one and then pushed him out like 4 times. Okay. don't know. I could see Kekai's giving him fits in one way or another, but he's still going to win that match.
00:19:39
Speaker
He was i'm not marching them all over the mat. I'm not super confident picking one way or the other with Marsteller and Starachi. Starachi's obviously gotten a lot better, but Marsteller seemingly has improved as well. So it's kind of like a... you know when you got When you think about the match tactics that both of them typically employ, Starachi's great at his reattacks, but Marsteller is very particular about the offensive opportunities that he capitalizes on. So...
00:20:08
Speaker
It's a pretty great matchup. The thing that I don't like the idea of is actually watching a Starachi Kyle Dake match. I don't think that that's entertaining. Why? Because they practice together and they both are very low scoring human beings.
00:20:23
Speaker
Correct. It'll be interesting to see who controls the center though. Who controls them? Probably going to be a Starachi if I had to guess, honestly. Dude, I don't know though. Cause Dake was, he was really controlling Parker.
00:20:39
Speaker
Yeah, but Carter does, I mean, at least, you know, it's against college guys and it's folk style. It's a little bit different, but he does a great job of taking control of the ah space on a mat.
00:20:51
Speaker
um So yeah, it's going to be kind of a clash in that ah facet. But yeah, I think a Mar-Stellar-Dake match would be great. As a matter of fact, haven't they wrestled before?
00:21:06
Speaker
Probably. Didn't they wrestle like way back in the day and it was like a close, close match? Marsteller Dake? Right? At 79 kilos they wrestled, right? I thought it was 74. Oh, it could have been. Either or.
00:21:19
Speaker
I have no idea. I might be way off the mark though. No, I think they have wrestled. I'm thinking of Daringer-Dake back in like oh the 2017 US Open.
00:21:30
Speaker
Whoa. Or something like that. Yeah, they wrestled a very close match in 2017. What did you say, Ryan? Did 79 exist in 2017? No. They wrestled 74.
00:21:42
Speaker
Yes. Dakin, I'm thinking of when they wrestled...
Community and Event Insights
00:21:49
Speaker
When Yanni and Zane wrestled and Dakin Daringer wrestled. That's what I'm thinking. When they were both one and two in the world.
00:21:56
Speaker
Yes. That was at 79. That was It me rooted against Alex. that was ah that was in twenty nineteen calm yes because tim rooted against alex Oh my God, guys.
00:22:09
Speaker
You did break. Give me a break. Give me don't remember the last time Kyle Dake was at your house. I do remember when Alex Derringer was. I actually do remember the last time Kyle Dake was at my house. It was to play Super Smash Bros. No, no, no, no, no. That wasn't your house.
00:22:22
Speaker
Yeah, that was not your house. That's where I lived. That's where I lived. That's where you lived. That wasn't your house. <unk> one in your house No, you're you're you're you're what you're trying to differentiate is between a house and home. That was my house.
00:22:33
Speaker
No, it wasn't your house. That was my house. Your name was not on the lease. Not the lease. My name wasn't on the deed of the house in Kansas. Your last name was?
00:22:49
Speaker
Checkmate, bitch. You got me there.
00:22:54
Speaker
No, I mean, i dude, i was I was in the same room don't remember Kyle Dake getting pissed ah because he lost shuffleboard. To my brother?
00:23:05
Speaker
But I do remember Alex Neringer getting pissed because he lost shuffleboard. The crazy thing is they would both they both would they both actually behave exactly the same way when it comes to playing stuff like that. Yeah, they're uber competitors, dude.
00:23:16
Speaker
Like, it's ridiculous. ah But yeah, man, look. With that said, I got Dake to win this weight.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah, that's it. ah I'll probably pick Kyle Dake too.
00:23:34
Speaker
i What are my other options? Here he goes. Chance Marcella, Carter, Sirachi, Parker, Keck Eisen, or Marcus Coleman.
00:23:43
Speaker
Yeah, give me Marcus Coleman. Shut up. Come on. I'll take Kyle Dake. All right, that's three dates. I just remember that one time Marcus Coleman was down big and he came back and beat this kid in high school. i can't remember who was.
00:23:56
Speaker
Who was it? No, don't I do remember this one time. Will you refresh memory? do remember this one time where Marcus Coleman beat Aaron Brooks and that was cool too. What was his name?
00:24:06
Speaker
I think that was his name. Sammy Cochley. You guys suck. Blew it. You suck. I didn't blow it, dude. It was not it was not meant to be Not meant to be? Wow. Yeah. Even now, you just totally expose yourself and your mindset during that match, before the match.
00:24:28
Speaker
It wasn't meant to be. no I think I'm coping. But whatever way you want to look at it, that's your opinion. You've already said it. you've You've already outright said that you didn't think you could win that match.
00:24:39
Speaker
Listen, I wasn't there. Okay? So it doesn't really matter what I say. And yet you judge. You know what, Ryan? Read the Bible. But I did see video, and Reese, you know, was there.
00:24:53
Speaker
And yeah, you blew it, dude.
00:24:57
Speaker
You got greedy. why Why not go for more when you can? I'm moving on to 79 kilos.
00:25:08
Speaker
At the one seed, starting from the one seed, Levi Haynes, Dean Hammity, Simon Ruiz, Carson Harchla, Muhammad McBride, Kennedy Monday, and then Ethan Riddle.
00:25:20
Speaker
If you pick Levi Haynes, Ryan, I'm picking DJ. Okay. Okay.
00:25:27
Speaker
That's more like it. I'm picking DJ. You know who I think is a sneaky pick here? Simon Ruiz. If you pick Levi. You know what? Now I might.
00:25:40
Speaker
You might as well just move to Austin, Texas and apply for a job. That's what wrestling did. you pick Levi. Show up. Show up at the front door. they please They will take you right in.
00:25:53
Speaker
Yeah, they'll eat you up, man. Fan club. there you will Levi Haynes fan club. Yep.
Public Reactions to Kyle Snyder's Scandal
00:26:01
Speaker
Maybe I'm trying to infiltrate Reese. Have you ever thought about that?
00:26:07
Speaker
No, I never considered that. What a weird desire. Well, will you consider it now?
00:26:15
Speaker
I don't think so. Don't race refuse. Refuse the notion. who's Who else? So DJ, Levi, Muhammad McBride, whoever you said. Simon Ruiz, Carson Hartzla, Kennedy Monday.
00:26:29
Speaker
I do kind of want to take Simon Ruiz, but I'm not going to. I'm taking Simon.
00:26:38
Speaker
Give me the freshman. I'm taking Levi Haynes.
00:26:45
Speaker
Kidding, kidding. I don't think he's like that like spectacular in freestyle. He's better in freestyle is what they say. Really? I don't know. Why, though?
00:26:58
Speaker
Why did they say that? He went out and lost to Facundo after winning a national title. That's what ah right.
00:27:05
Speaker
That's what ah matthew matthew Matthew Sarbo told me.
00:27:11
Speaker
He got smoked by Mitchell Messenbrink. Then got smoked by Alex Facundo. thought it was Facundo first. Both guys better at freestyle than they are folk style.
00:27:22
Speaker
Messenbrink? I mean, I guess. Well, he beat David Carr in freestyle but lost to him in folk style. Your part. ear part and Your part uh, that match was crazy.
00:27:37
Speaker
Both matches were crazy, frankly. You wrestle that, you you wrestle five folk style matches and five freestyle matches, you're going to get completely different results every time. um Yeah, Mitchell Mesenbrink also thought that he was tied.
00:27:51
Speaker
Thought he was tied. The difference between criteria and writing time.
00:27:57
Speaker
So you might be right. He might be better freestyle. Maybe. Okay. Okay. Did we pick all of our picks? and j did You DJ?
00:28:09
Speaker
Go DJ. That's my DJ. Speaking of DJ, DJ Washington texted me at like nine o'clock last night and said too easy with a screenshot of Gable game. And it was a number that I didn't recognize because he has a new number.
00:28:24
Speaker
He followed it up with DJ Washington, by the way. said, okay, cool. Was the guest his name that day?
00:28:34
Speaker
No, it was yesterday's. i can't remember who it was. i can't remember who was. either I want to say it was...
00:28:44
Speaker
have no idea. Gone with the wind. And just like that, we're gone from 79 kilos on our way down to 74, starting from the 1C. David Carr, Quincy Monday, Jarrett JQ's Michael Caliendo, Terrell Barriclaw, Peyton Hall, Joey Blaze.
00:29:04
Speaker
Honestly? Getting pinched, tough weight.
00:29:08
Speaker
This is like an even weight, except for probably Carr. I think Carr is a couple of steps ahead of most these people. I'm interested to see. You don't think Cali and I think he's, that's ah um i'll probably the my most interesting one that, that and like, based on what he plays based on those matches, he wrestled those last two matches against a mess break and how he is kind of annihilated everybody, everybody else. He wrestled just never seen him wrestle freestyle.
00:29:38
Speaker
Yeah, so that that'll be interesting because the last time he did, I think he took he lost he took a loss to some nobody in freestyle. but This was like three years ago or four years ago or something like that. That was the last time he wrestled freestyle?
00:29:51
Speaker
I think so. I thought he wrestled freestyle. I'm shocked that Caliendo's even entered, honestly. Also a little surprised. Let's see if I can find some video. I love It does kind of point to maybe, all right, he's keeping his weight down all summer. Is he trying to get down to 57?
00:30:13
Speaker
Right. That is something that people suggested. Like, hey, does this tell you that he's sticking at 65 or maybe he's going down 57? Go for it. i think it's right I think it's a non-indicator of it.
00:30:27
Speaker
You're a skeptic. What do you mean it's a non-indicator? It would be an indicator. I don't think it indicates that he's that he's particular about one way or the other. It could indicate.
00:30:40
Speaker
Yeah, but I... So it could. Sure. i just don't think it's like solid evidence one way or the other. It's solid evidence. I disagree. What would be solid evidence towards the other direction with him being wrestling would wrestle 79?
00:30:56
Speaker
but the fact that he's willing to go down lower than his than his college weight class points towards him possibly going down to 57.
00:31:09
Speaker
I don't think it's low enough.
00:31:12
Speaker
Lower. i don't think it's low enough. You can't even admit that it's like... at least evidence pointing towards him possibly going down 57. It is.
00:31:26
Speaker
I guess, I guess if you had to like put it in a, if you had like a chart and you said, this is a fact, would you put it towards hit? Would you say that this suggests that he's doing 65 or did you see, think that this suggests he's doing 57?
00:31:41
Speaker
Again, i still don't I don't feel like it suggests that he's wrestling 57. I think it suggests that he's – He's never done it in the past. And now all of a sudden we're talking about maybe shifting people down so that we can fit all these guys in the lineup.
00:31:54
Speaker
you know And now it's like, oh, and now you got Mike Caliendo, the only Hawkeye, wrestling. And he's wrestling close to his normal weight but actually lower than his normal like competitive weight.
00:32:06
Speaker
Mm-hmm. if If we didn't know about this rumor, if this wasn't even, there was no rumor about him going down, i wouldn't, it wouldn't make me suddenly think that he was going down to 57. Right. So, so I think it's, I think it's not, it, it doesn't say, Hey, he's going 57, but it doesn't say, Hey, 57 is a, is a shut door.
00:32:27
Speaker
Right. That's, that's where it feels like it is in my mind. So I am interested to see a match with him and David Carr. ah But I think David Carr's selectiveness with his shots and how how strong he is at finishing them, I think is pretty strongly in favor him on top of the freestyle savviness and what he can do on parterre.
00:32:53
Speaker
David Carr probably wins this match pretty easily. Pretty easily. think.
00:33:01
Speaker
Did Caliander did call under wressell Carr last year in Folkstyle? Yes. So he started... Yep. Was that... did they Was it a tech or was it a major? i think he majored him.
00:33:18
Speaker
Yeah. He's gotten a lot better. I will say... i mean, both guys have gotten a lot better. I'm still picking David Carr, too. so Yeah, I picked David Carr. I don't think anybody here beats him.
00:33:31
Speaker
But... Tell you what. thing no one here is paying you to think, Sammy.
00:33:37
Speaker
um I mean, I guess I am doing this for free. You're not wrong.
00:33:43
Speaker
what is What a dis. All right, next one. 70 kilos. This is where things are starting to get juicy. Starting from the top, James Green, PJ Duke, Ian Parker, Will Luan, Bryce Andonian, Ridge Lovett, Entrell Taylor, Caleb Henson, Brayton Lee.
00:34:04
Speaker
Why is this weight you're so loaded?
00:34:08
Speaker
ah yeah I mean, yeah, an inclusion of a lot of guys from NCAAs. Do they know that? Like, yeah, you win, you get Yanni. why Why is this weight class so loaded? I mean, I guess...
00:34:20
Speaker
Cause like you have the addition of from, you know, NCAA is, Ridge Lovett, Antrell Taylor, Caleb Henson. And then PJ Duke bumps up from, from you twenties to seniors. I mean, so i have I think Yanni is a better opera, like a better option than Mitchell Messenbrink.
00:34:39
Speaker
Yeah. i I mean, like the only guy in here that would wrestle 74 kilos is Antrell Taylor.
00:34:45
Speaker
65. Who you do we think could go? six Ridge could maybe, but probably not. Probably not. a Really, none of these guys. as Ian Parker would be your most likely candidate for 65. Who? Ian Parker.
00:35:00
Speaker
Yeah, Parker. Yeah. Him being up in 70 is kind of crazy. He took third at the U.S. Open. and You know what's funny? Him and Gomez wrestled at Pan Ams at 70 kilograms, and they were teammates at 33 and 41 at Iowa State.
00:35:15
Speaker
That's funny. Small world. Funny stuff.
00:35:21
Speaker
Jimmy James Green over Bryson Donian. That doesn't make any sense. and I love it I'm going to take a five seed.
00:35:33
Speaker
somebody Somebody doesn't make weight and he gets bumped up to four seed. Two people don't make weight and he bumped up. Give me a PJ Duke.
00:35:47
Speaker
Dude. I don't think so. I don't think so. Well, again, I, I'm not paid to think whatever. Shut your mouth. Who'd you pick? Here's what I want to do.
00:35:59
Speaker
He picked PJ. Duke. Yeah. The Duke love. Everybody loves PJ Duke. People are, people are, in a lot of picturess talk about this is strictly off of gut. This is gut.
00:36:11
Speaker
Where's Pentelio? Is he taking a break? I think he might be done. have no idea. No, not done. All my homies are retiring. Dude, I think i think like ah like Miles Amin is done, i'm pretty sure.
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah, I think he retired. Yeah. ah Alec Pantaleo, give me your Instagram. Tell me what the latest is, brother. Why wouldn't you wrestle? off Why would you wrestle the US Open and not wrestle Charles?
00:36:41
Speaker
Maybe got hurt again. That's a great question.
00:36:45
Speaker
What in the world? Croatia bound. Oh, wait, no, he wrestled. He wrestled like the ranking series and stuff. He, uh, who? Miles? Alec. Alec Pantelio. Oh.
00:36:58
Speaker
That's weird. Weird, weird, weird. Maybe he got hurt. He beat Duke pretty soundly, I'll say. Yeah, it was chippy though, wasn't it? It was chippy, but he soundly beat P.J. Duke.
00:37:11
Speaker
Right. I mean, I do. I think P.J. Duke's going to struggle with like I think he's already beating Andonian. He smashed Andonian at the Bill Farrell, but I think he'll struggle with Montrell Taylor.
00:37:25
Speaker
I think he'll struggle with... Why will he struggle with Montrell Taylor? ah and you i feel like I think he's a good matchup for Montrell.
00:37:36
Speaker
I think Taylor's gotten a lot better, and he's good at freestyle. yeah he's he's been he's got he's had some freestyle savviness in the past, um and I think...
00:37:48
Speaker
PJ Dukes, one of his bit one of his bigger advantages is strength. And that's why like I think Alec Pantelio did a great job of handling him is because Alec Pantelio is also a horse himself. ah But I think that's why he was ah able to like smash through everything that Bryce Antonian threw at him because...
00:38:02
Speaker
There was no funk. There was no leverage. There was just raw strength. ah Now, is that going to work against some of these older, more seasoned guys? Yes, but not all of them necessarily. I think i think it's going to you know fall short against James Green, ah probably even Will Luan.
00:38:17
Speaker
if they if They won't wrestle each other most likely, but sure that's another guy where I don't see it really working well for him. And then I think even though Ridge Lovett is is kind of in the same bucket as Bryce Andonan.
00:38:29
Speaker
yeah I think Ridge Lovett is better than Antro. i Yeah, I think Ridge and Antrell on the bottom side for PJ are his biggest obstacles in terms of making the finals. Antrell Taylor pretty good at freestyle.
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah, but Ridge is, you know. When was the last time Ridge wrestled freestyle? this but's been ated Out of curiosity. It's couple of years. I think he wrestled at like… He smashed his way to what?
00:38:55
Speaker
Was that a… Did he make… I know. I mean, he made the junior team. Did he make U23 team ever? I'm trying to think. I don't know. I'm trying to... Here, let me see if they have it on his Nebraska profile.
00:39:11
Speaker
He hasn't lost it. It's not like you know he's going to be rusty at freestyle. dude Dude's got tons and tons of accolades in freestyle. ah Yeah.
00:39:23
Speaker
I don't see anything...
00:39:28
Speaker
about freestyle don't know they have nothing about freestyle on his profile which sucks uh yeah dude i mean i what are the what's the seeds the seed is so james green is the one pj duke is a two pj will have uh probably on trail taylor in the quarters as the seventh seed and then the winner between ian parker and ridge love it
00:39:52
Speaker
i mean got tough to throw Yeah, I could see Ian beating Ridge based on his results at the US Open. ah I don't think so. I don't know. I think we're underrating Ridge.
00:40:04
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what we're going to see with Ridge, but you know once we see that, then it can then I can make a choice, I guess. ah I'm going to go all this said being said, i'm going to go with James Green.
00:40:16
Speaker
I think he's... James Green over Ridge Lovett in the finals there. give me Give me James Green over...
00:40:26
Speaker
Yeah. No. I'm going to go with Entrell Taylor.
00:40:31
Speaker
Are these guys competing with each other in the room, do you think? Entrell Taylor, Ridge Lovett, and James Green? Yeah. Probably at least a little bit. It's in Nebraska U right here.
00:40:43
Speaker
Dude, they got a squad together. Maybe that's why brian Snyder won't answer my phone calls. so That's probably it. I started sending him handwritten letters. That's a good idea.
00:40:56
Speaker
No, I actually have not reached out to him just because it's a busy time.
00:41:02
Speaker
ah Okay. You we guys want to move on to 65? No, and No, you to stick around to 70 for a little bit longer. I want to go back to 74. You want to talk about Brayton Lee? Because I think Brayton Lee's got a real shot here.
00:41:18
Speaker
It's got be Caleb Henson. But once he gets to that, then he's the 8th seed. He's got James Green in the quarters. so if As long as he gets past Brayton Lee, which is not the easiest thing to do.
00:41:32
Speaker
ah so yeah Ryan, did you lose your your victory royale? What are talking about? I've gotten 7 of them since we've been on here. Okay. Just kidding. 7 dubs. 0 dubs.
00:41:44
Speaker
just got place, it's got sixty ninth place actually oh Well, that's that's a victory. It's the first. It is. It is in its own way. It's the first time i got outside the ah top 15, though, tonight.
00:41:56
Speaker
So kind of salty about that.
00:42:01
Speaker
OK. All right. Give me PJ Dew. Who would on?
00:42:07
Speaker
Over. Oh, do I have to pick it over somebody? Yeah. James Green. OK. 65 kilograms.
00:42:19
Speaker
Starting from the top, Jesse Mendez, Brock Hardy, Bo Bassett, Aiden Valencia, Real Woods, Bo Bartlett, Seth Gross, Marcus Blaze, Carter Young.
00:42:30
Speaker
Jeez. Oh, When did Bassett get such a high seed? Or is it off of pin rating? It's got to be the pin. Yeah, yeah. It's got to be what it... That's what all the USA Wrestling events do now. So... ah Yeah, man. I don't know.
00:42:47
Speaker
don't know what think here. You got, here's your quarterfinal matchups. Jesse Mendez and Marcus Blaze. so Brock Hardy and Seth Gross.
00:42:59
Speaker
Bo Bassett and Bo Bartlett. Then Aiden Valencia and Real Woods. Dude, these are so good and I'm going to be at work. So sad. I'm sorry.
00:43:11
Speaker
So don't spoil them, please. I want to say a word. want say a dang word.
00:43:18
Speaker
But give me Mendez over Blaze.
00:43:24
Speaker
Give me... Oh my gosh. Give me Gross over Hardy.
00:43:32
Speaker
Bartlett over Bassett. And Valencia over Woods.
00:43:37
Speaker
Keep going. here Valencia 3-0 over Real Woods. Yeah. Yeah. ah So that puts in the semis. Mendez versus Valencia. Oh man, that's a good match. Pick Mendez. If you're going to pick him over, boys. Bartlett, Harty.
00:43:55
Speaker
Bartlett, Hart. Bartlett, Gross. You got Gross beating Hardy? Yeah, I got Hardy over Gross. I got Bassett over Bartlett. Oh.
00:44:06
Speaker
I got... How does Bo Bassett beat Bo Bartlett? It doesn't happen. But it's going to happen. It doesn't happen. And then... And then I've got ah Bassett over Hardy, but then I got Mendez over Bassett.
00:44:19
Speaker
sort of Bassett over Hardy and then Mendez over Unless he's gotten a lot stronger, he's going struggle. Yeah, do... This is going to be a tough time for Bo Bassett.
00:44:32
Speaker
Because he got little Boyd against... Matthew Klogic. You guys remember what else you know a year ago Anthony Ashnail did, right? um Exactly. So he did that to when he what he did. He did what he did to Anthony Ashnail and then Klogic did what he did to Bo Passett.
00:44:50
Speaker
who Who in here is as strong as Matthew Klogic? Who in this bracket? Who this way? Bo Bartlett is as strong as Matthew Klogic. ah He looks really strong.
00:45:01
Speaker
He does look really strong. don't think he looks quite as strong as Klaadzik. Klaadzik is a brick, dude. Yeah. And Bartlett kind of has a little bit of like, not soft is the wrong word, but for lack of a better one, i'm going to say he's like, he looks a little, he's got a lighter touch to his style. A squishier look to him than Klaadzik. do not see any squish.
00:45:25
Speaker
it's all the It's all that chest hair that Klaadzik has. Makes him.
00:45:30
Speaker
Scary. he's got a bigger He's got bigger shoulders. Bigger chest. For sure. He can do more flips. But Bartlett, no. I'm talking about oh the other one expand shoulder the other way. Bartlett is compact.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah. i just i don't see I don't see a lot of what Bo Bassett does working on Bo Bartlett. Yeah. I just don't see it. He's not going to gas him. What happened to Nick Lee?
00:45:57
Speaker
He bought bret he backed out backed out of the tournament. He backed out? Is he retired? I don't know. ah Dude, a lot of people were like, are you seriously going to wrestle against your own cook your own athletes? I'm like, shut up.
00:46:10
Speaker
Shut up and let him wrestle. I don't care. you know? i don't care either. like If he wants to wrestle, just let him wrestle.
00:46:23
Speaker
I don't know. It was weird to me for people to be like, wow, I can't believe a coach is going to go out there and wrestle against his own guys. Who cares? Twitter's stupid, dude. Dude, I just... Yeah, there's been a lot lately that is just... Twitter's dumb.
00:46:40
Speaker
it's It's the foreign Twitter accounts that are like... twitter Like King, King Jamal of, and, and that type of stuff. It's just like cowboy as Donnie cowboy dude, cowboy as Donnie. He was
00:46:57
Speaker
neither. i mean, was just, i don't know. That was a whole thing. The other guy, we, the other guy we were talking to, he he's been, he's like, Hey, check out this fight, this cage fight I did with Anthony Casar's brother. I was like, but yeah. Yeah.
00:47:09
Speaker
yeah I don't know. He's, he's been on one lately. But back to the weight. Thanks to you, he's all over my feed now. Yeah, he's all over my feed. Yeah, same.
00:47:21
Speaker
Same. You're welcome. I will take, for my picks in the quarters, I'm taking Marcus Blaze over Jesse Mendez. I don't think I can... I'm taking Real Woods over Aiden Valencia. I'm taking Bartlett over Bassett and Gross over Hardy.
00:47:37
Speaker
What is more likely to happen, Sammy, in your opinion? Between which one? Blaze over Mendez or Bassett over Bartlett? blazer That's what I'm thinking about right now. I think why think Blaze over Mendez. Because Blaze has beaten ah you know really, really high-level guys. He might be too small.
00:47:59
Speaker
He may be too small. now here's and they also You know they've wrestled before, Mendez and Blaze. Here's the other thing.
00:48:10
Speaker
Who makes more mistakes between Mendez and Bartlett?
00:48:15
Speaker
Mendoza Bartlett I guess I don't know Mendoza made a bunch of mistakes over the season against oh I know I know I'm just saying like and like don't know I guess who is more susceptible to giving up points and bunches and having a harder time coming back He's just not going to – I don't see Bartlett giving up. He's not going to score in bunches against Beau Bartlett, dude. I just don't know how that's going to happen.
00:48:40
Speaker
and Yeah. And Blaze can sting Mendez or you know sting him early and you know Mendez won't be able to come back. How? I don't know. and I just can't see how Blaze is going to score on Mendez. I just can't see. I don't know how he scores on anybody. It's those reattacks.
00:48:59
Speaker
he's He's very – But I don't think that dude – i don't think I don't think he's there yet. I think Jesse Mendez is... He might be too small. That's the one thing. he was really He looked really small at NCAAs when we saw Oh, Blaze?
00:49:15
Speaker
i really I really don't remember seeing him. He was not tall, that's for sure. where were we? We were walking down to the to our seats and there he was. sammy do you remember seeing Nico Megaloudis? No, he wasn't there. just I think he was busy getting ready for the US Open.
00:49:31
Speaker
How do you... Oh, under never mind. Yeah, those are my picks. Yeah, dude.
00:49:39
Speaker
Gross Hardy, I mean, honestly, that's toss-up. Give me freaking Aiden Valencia over freaking Seth Gross in the finals.
00:49:50
Speaker
Dude, and you know who's never lost to Aiden Valencia? ah Bo Bassett. They're just never going to, they're not going to wrestle each other though. They're on opposite sides of the bracket. Bo Bass is going lose to Bo Bartlett and Bartlett going to lose to Seth Gross. I don't know.
00:50:08
Speaker
I just don't, I don't know how once he is navigating that whole field. Dude, I don't know, but did you see his match against Joey McKenna? McKenna just lost to freaking Destro Batts.
00:50:20
Speaker
Destro Batts, I think we need to I think we finally need to admit Destro Batts, not bad. He's good, obviously, but McKenna should not be losing to him.
00:50:30
Speaker
Well, he got choked out in the middle of the match. i don't know if you saw that. He did get choked out, but he shouldn't be getting get like you know shouldn be putting himself in those positions to get choked out.
00:50:41
Speaker
The guy's good. simple so Yeah, Yanni does that though. That was a little bit. that that was The guy almost beat Yanni. Yanni was a world silver.
00:50:53
Speaker
Joey also beat Yanni. Multiple times. um just The Destrobatz-Yani match was a little bit of home cooking. Just a little bit. I'm just saying. Not a lot. There's still some credibility to the Destrobatz performance in that match. The guy is legit. He's good. We're taking it away. What has he done? And Reese is over here taking it away from the guy.
00:51:12
Speaker
Dude, you know what else he did? Yeah. Because you're saying he's not like that. You're saying Jeremy can't lose until it. He hasn't medaled on the world stage. He rattled at the World Cup. Yeah.
00:51:25
Speaker
That doesn't count. He took bronze. ah But no, listen to this. Listen to this. Who did he wrestle with at the Olympics? Destro Batz? Didn't he go in one? He, no.
00:51:37
Speaker
He wrestled, round one, he wrestled Kotaro Kiyuka. Nine to eight.
00:51:44
Speaker
Yeah. Seabass also almost beat Kiyuka. Right. Seabass is a world Olympic medalist. Olympic bronze medalist. Yeah. Kiyuka also got teched earlier that year.
00:51:59
Speaker
Okay, dude. I'm just trying to give some some credibility to the Destro Bot's capability. He's good, but ah I'm just saying he's not um he's not on that upper rung guys, and neither is Joey McKenna.
00:52:12
Speaker
Yeah, and I don't think Joey McKenna has like done anything to really prove that he is. Right. So saying that Valencia saying boier almost McKenna is like It's impressive in comparison to the rest of this field because have any of them beaten Joey?
00:52:29
Speaker
Probably. Bo Bartlett beat him.
00:52:33
Speaker
Jesse Mendez beat him. ah Dude, honestly, Bo Bartlett's – because I put out a ah set of sneaky picks. Bo Bartlett's one of the sneakier ones. I mean, yeah bla are all these dudes are sneaky. All of them. Yeah, but i don't i mean I think a lot of people are talking about Marcus Blaze, Jesse Mendez, you know Seth Gross, even Bo Bassett and Brock Hardy.
00:52:50
Speaker
I don't really think a lot people are counting Bo Bartlett in. I think they're just saying this is a really tough obstacle, but somebody's going to get past him. But I mean, if Bo Bartlett wins this, am I blown away by that? No. Are you blown away by anyone winning it?
00:53:03
Speaker
Bo Bassett would be crazy. Bo Bassett, Marcus Blaze. Bo Bassett would be crazy, but not Aiden Valencia. Yeah. I was about to just say Valencia. Honestly, like Bassett, Valencia, maybe even Brock Hardy and like Marcus. but ah hard he Probably Seth Gross, too, because um mean, i don' make could dude I could see him doing it.
00:53:23
Speaker
I don't know. I could see him doing it, too. God, this is such All of these guys could do it. yeah I don't think Real Woods could do it. Who? Maybe Real Woods could do it.
00:53:34
Speaker
Real Woods could do it? What? 100% could do it. They could all do it. Could Carter Young do it? Carter Young probably couldn't do it. Alright, we found the line.
00:53:45
Speaker
It's the top eight. And I'm going to go i'm going to go with whatever I said. Aiden Valencia over Seth Gross. Sure. Run it. Give me...
00:53:55
Speaker
bla Blaze over Woods to make the finals and on the opposite side um i guess Gross over Bartlett and then Gross over Blaze Seth Gross champ
00:54:15
Speaker
yeah when you look at the individual matchups it's like this can go either way and so when it plays out it's like heyto you just have nah what are you gonna do
00:54:27
Speaker
Bo Bassett. Got Bo Bassett? Let me think about this a little harder. You picking with Bowen? I think I want to pick Brock Hardy.
00:54:37
Speaker
ride Ride with the party, Ryan. Party Hardy. Party on. Party Hardy. I want to pick Hardy to come out on that side, but I think I'm to take Mendes. Never stop partying in it. Yeah, this is where he gets it.
00:54:50
Speaker
This is where he gets it done. This is where Brock Hardy's like, finally, I'm putting my i'm putting the the foot down on you, Jesse. Putting my foot down on you. I'm putting he put my foot down on beat Jesse, though?
00:55:04
Speaker
At Big Tens? No. Oh, yeah. Yes? Yes, he did. um ah so i was I was like, don't know, Vince... Vance Vombard beat him, but that's a different weight. No, that's the same weight.
00:55:16
Speaker
Vance Vombard beat Bartlett.
00:55:20
Speaker
Brock Hardy, Vance Vombard, Bo Bartlett, Jesse Mendez. ah but but ah but Brock Hardy is saying, I'm putting my foot back down on you, Jesse Mendez. Yeah, my foot's coming back down. Foot's coming back down. Get ready. All right, I'm picking Hardy to win it all.
00:55:35
Speaker
Okay. We've got our picks. Terrible picks. Maybe you should tweet them out. They're all... I mean, you can't really... Your best pick is probably Jesse Mendez. He's probably the most consistently... You know... Fuck it. I'm back on Mendez. I'm going back. Not freaking hard. God damn it. I mean, I pick pretty pretty plain and boring for most of the other weights. So I wanted to mix it up, get a little weird for this one.
00:56:03
Speaker
And yeah, that's the World Team Trials that happens this weekend. It's starting on Friday. This will be up Thursday morning, maybe afternoon. We'll see how quickly I get it out. Seeing how good some of these weights are, does it not... Well, I guess i mean that would it would be a detriment to 65, but also do you kind of wish that the other two weights were there?
00:56:24
Speaker
Absolutely. 57 would be a snoozer. 57 would probably be a snoozer, but 61...
00:56:35
Speaker
But then we did get a lot of 61 guys going up. Yeah, lot yeah and like we had a lot of 61 action at the US Open. I i really think... that the idea of having the world team trials for all the weights is a fine idea. i don't think it improves the, uh, the world team trials process. I think it's just along the same. You're talking about U S open the idea, the the idea of having the winner of the U S open, if there's somebody sitting in final X, having the winner of the U S open sitting in the finals of the world team trials.
00:57:10
Speaker
Um, think it's I think it's just basically the same thing, just a little different and not necessarily better or worse. so Different. i think Not better, but different.
00:57:23
Speaker
I think having monetary compensation for winning something like the US Open is a good idea. i think that's great. I just don't know what that looks solves most problems. Money solves a lot of problems.
00:57:35
Speaker
I don't know if money will solve Kyle Snyder's problem, but... Oh, he didn't want to talk about it And then he just takes a totally unnecessary jab. No, I hope mean, I was going to say, I was going to say God will.
00:57:53
Speaker
There's no, there's no jab. You didn't hear him. a jab. I took a jab at Snyder. It's my bad. I didn't really mean it that way. I was listening, but I guess I didn't hear. I must've missed what you just said about I said, I said maybe, you know, his money probably won't solve Kyle Snyder's problem. Yeah.
00:58:07
Speaker
yeah
00:58:10
Speaker
because we were saying money will solve money solves a lot of problems. Right. I heard all that. I guess I just did not hear you say the part about Kyle Snyder. You were too busy getting a victory royale. No, I'm actually working.
00:58:21
Speaker
Thank you. but Working at 9.42 p.m. at night, huh? ah Yeah. Sometimes recruits text you at 9.40. Never off the clock, huh? you just text them back because, you know, that's what you do. Recruits are more important than your brothers, right?
00:58:38
Speaker
yeah why That is it doesn't even make sense. Why does that even have to be a thing? Would would would money solve this problem, Ryan? what What problem is there? don't have a problem. You're not... I want You just hit the hour mark, gentlemen.
00:58:52
Speaker
I want you at full attention.
00:58:58
Speaker
Look at that. It just helps me. Yeah, we're going wrap it up. We're going to get out of here. Let's talk about house money. Ryan and I... We need to have a, we need to meet you. You're going to, you, me and HR, we're going to sit down. We're going to go on a performance improvement plan. All right.
00:59:11
Speaker
How I'm going to say my piece about Kyle Snyder right now. I'm putting you, I'm putting you on the pip. Go ahead, Reese. saying it right now. um Not that big of a deal. Only people who you know you really feel for and you know feel like he wronged in this situation are his family.
00:59:28
Speaker
So the people on Twitter who expect him or are disappointed in his his statement and expect him to, you know, apologize to you know to the kids or to the fans or to whoever are dum-dums.
00:59:52
Speaker
And i don't know why they got to be like that. Why they got to, you know, why you got to analyze situations, you know, so critically. What do you mean analyzing critically? how what What does that mean? it's it's It's not, you don't have to analyze it critically at all. It's pretty right there on the surface. It's like, you know, this is i mean i kind of the brand you've built.
01:00:13
Speaker
You've built yourself up on. And then, ah you know, now you look like a liar.
01:00:21
Speaker
Why does he need to ah come out and apologize publicly, though? I mean, I had to come out and apologize publicly, Reese. All I'm saying, though, and was but So I was just make saying, what why did you like yeah you jumped in and like saying like I what I said was wrong?
01:00:38
Speaker
Well, I mean, what you said is it's not that big of a deal, but it is. Why? I think it's a big deal for a spy. I think it's deal for a spy. All right.
01:00:54
Speaker
I think that's a different subject. um It's legal in like pretty much... Most countries. else in the world. Yeah. And in even in parts in the United States. That does it make it right though. When, especially when. Obviously doesn't make it right. But is it really anybody's business other than his family? Trafficked women. So.
01:01:14
Speaker
Exactly. I think that's the biggest concern for sure. And I think that's, I think that's where like wires got crossed on this thing is because like. the sting operation was in retaliation to an increase and in trafficking.
01:01:28
Speaker
And so that's how Snyder got caught up in it. But I mean, I agree with what Reese said in terms of like this really, I initially thought that this was a bigger deal than it actually is. Like it really should just be like him. Do you feel like he owes you an apology, Ryan?
01:01:42
Speaker
but you feel like he owes you an apology ryan Do you feel like he owes oh owes me personally? As a fan, like, do you think he owes his fans an apology? I think he can, i I think he can say like, I've set a bad example for the kids that look up to me and he can be apologetic towards that. Sure.
01:02:00
Speaker
But I mean, like, I think there, yeah. Yes, Sammy. Correct. There has to, I think there does need to be probably at least a level of. Sure. Yeah.
01:02:11
Speaker
I think that's, I think that's a good, a good, uh, a good step in the right direction. But like in terms of like the people, to grown ass men with the, with the, people or Twitter accounts that are saying like, is the point.
01:02:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's not and like i' like telling him, but how many times would he have made this mistake until he got caught? i know Exactly. It's his business. That's between him and his family. It's not like, you know, it just, right the fact that it's been made a public thing, you know, it's not necessarily, you're a public figure.
01:02:46
Speaker
I know you're a public figure. Exactly. You represent more kyle Snyder. What Kyle Snyder, the name represents is more than, you know, just himself, the person, but he, dude, I mean, obviously
01:03:01
Speaker
he's obviously, you know, he's ashamed. It's not like, i'm not gone oh you shouldn't overanalyze a statement. People were, people were never going to be,
01:03:12
Speaker
whether he apologized or not, people are always going to criticize, you know, and look for something wrong in what his statement was. was or Yes. And I don't think more or less of the guy.
01:03:23
Speaker
All right. I, mean, me neither i do. it's disappointing. the And the biggest disappointment for me is like, it's the hypocrisy, man. It's the, it's the brand you've built.
01:03:34
Speaker
You've put yourself up on this pedestal as this guy, a spiritual guy or whatever. And then, but like, You know, in the shadows, that's not who you truly are.
01:03:45
Speaker
i think I think, you know, the saints, saints are saints because they know they're sinners, you know? And everyone sins. Everybody makes mistakes. It's not hypocrisy. It's called being human. You build brand, Rhys. The point is that you... It's not like he's like openly attacked other people for this stuff. He just preaches. didn't practice what he preaches. And that's... Sure, that's...
01:04:14
Speaker
But i think I think that's the case for a lot of Christians. I really do. I mean, that's the whole point of being a Christian. You're not perfect. You make mistakes. And I mean, that's it's just a part of being human.
01:04:26
Speaker
yeah but Correct. and it's not So don't build your brand on it. That's my point. Why? I mean, if if he if he wants to use his plays platform to like spread the word of God, i think he has I think he has every right to be able to do that, whether or not he has you know ah sinful acts that that are you know happen behind closed doors. That just feels like you're doing it all in vain.
01:04:48
Speaker
No, you're saying he's trying to i don't know he's trying to say, like speak it before he does it. That's like the whole process of, you know, being a better person. You have to, like you know, know what it takes to be a better person before you can become a better person.
01:05:04
Speaker
So he's just trying to tell people, like all he's doing is just telling people, you know, This is how I think – this is what I think it takes to become a great person or a good person or whatever. are You build yourself up on this pedestal and then you sin on purpose?
01:05:21
Speaker
I don't know if I would even want to call it a pedestal. Yeah, why – What do you mean? He's not – why do you say he's – like are all Christians on a pedestal? no Because they're Christians?
01:05:33
Speaker
I mean, like literally every interview, dude, every interview, he is, you know, all glory to God. or Glory to God. Yeah. does that deal oh You don't hear that from from a lot of other guys.
01:05:45
Speaker
I mean, I think a lot of guys, especially ones that train at Penn State, you you hear that from from a lot of them. Like Jason Nolfe did a lot of that. Aaron Brooks. ah Others that I have not popped into my mind.
01:05:57
Speaker
i think I think that there are valid points on both sides of the argument in terms of like, I can't believe you've done this after everything you've said, ah like practice what you preach.
01:06:09
Speaker
ah But I mean, a lot of people are like, drop the drop the the act. I don't think it's an act. I think he think he believes everything that he says. ah I think you know if he wants to you know be a Christian, there's not there's not a better time for him to like lean into that than right now.
01:06:27
Speaker
ah I mean, because what would we... What would be the conversation how if this was Kyle Dake? hello do It'd be funnier. What would be the conversation if this was Kyle Dake?
01:06:45
Speaker
It would definitely not be like rooted as deeply in the religious aspect. um It would be holy-centered... being holy centered who Who comes across as more putting them themselves putting themselves on a pedestal between Kyle Dink and Kyle Snyder? It's the religious pedestal, though, that I'm um'm talking about. I'm talking about one factor here.
01:07:08
Speaker
think I think – I don't know if I agree with religious pedestal. I just don't. I just don't know if I do you just Honestly, like car like he gets up on the podium, but then he then he'll say glory to God. And so it's like God's on the podium. I'm not.
01:07:22
Speaker
like This is what I did for him. I don't know. I mean, I think it's an interpretive thing, most likely. All right, all right. His brand. There's going to be consequences to that brand.
01:07:35
Speaker
His brand is built on his achievements as a wrestler, and he just uses his achievements as a wrestler. to his rootest page Reese. I know. I'm just saying didn't become who is specifically. i know i'm just saying i'm saying he didn't he didn't become who he is you know by preaching the word of God. He became Kyle Snyder, the you know Captain America, by winning gold medals and being ah ah great wrestler.
01:08:03
Speaker
Yeah, but but Ryan, i mean like his brain is going to ting that brain is goingnna take a knock. While he was doing that, he was building building this image, his brand, as this is who I am. This is what I believe. This is why I do these things.
01:08:21
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. And like. It's the hypocrisy though, man. Like it just feels like you're doing. you I don't. You're doing some of the stuff that you do and say is in vain.
01:08:36
Speaker
I don't know if I i don't know. i mean if you I mean, I don't. I don't. If it makes him a hypocrite, then everyone in the entire world is a hypocrite. Unless you're, unless you don't make mistakes and do things. Why you don say why why would I be a hypocrite?
01:08:51
Speaker
do you Do you feel like you like you feel like everything you you you feel like you you do everything right and like you do everything like the way? not talking about doing everything right and doing everything wrong, Reese. That's not what I'm talking about. Do you feel like you practice what you preach?
01:09:08
Speaker
and For the most part, yeah. that's what most um what i'm faithful to my I'm faithful to my wife. I take care of my kids. i'm i'm The big ones. And I don't do it. I do it all without quoting the Bible or saying all glory to God. That's fine. That's your prerogative. And ask for forgiveness for my sins. But at the same time, I'm putting out this image like I'm not doing these horrible things.
01:09:41
Speaker
And let's not, it's not a horrible thing. It is. It's horrible. What he did, it it was it was, it was horrible. What did was a horrible thing. Why is it horrible? Dude, he's got a wife and kids. and okay I think it's horrible for his family. Yeah, for his family, right?
01:09:55
Speaker
But the brand stuff, like his image. So you're saying has like people on Instagram. You don't think he's built this image as a family man too? and a good hikeman in a good fiy I He betrayed his family, his family, and not his. It's going to take yeah to take ah take some damage on his on his brand and his image. his well Hang on. His family is not, his family's business is not our business. It is whenever you're whenever you're talking about it all the time or posting it on ah on a public forum like Instagram.
01:10:28
Speaker
Was he really posting about his family that much? I mean, not ah kind of went done he does. He'll post his wife and his kids stuff like that. I still just don't think it's our business, dude. I still am not going to say it's my business.
01:10:40
Speaker
and And like what he does in his free time, you know? Don't think that his image isn't going to take – His image is going to take ah like a serious – It won't be the same.
01:10:50
Speaker
he yeah Nobody will regard Kyle Snyder publicly as the same person. I'm just saying like he does – I mean – he does deserve some, of some of what's coming to him. Reese is saying that he doesn't.
01:11:02
Speaker
I'm saying, no that's not what I said. i so I just was talking about people overanalyzing and being overly critical of his statement on Twitter. That's what I, that was my whole first thing.
01:11:12
Speaker
Yeah. And there are definitely people out there that are, that are going expect him up an apology from him. They expect him to apologize to them. Like, No, he doesn't owe you an apology for being his fan. For being deceitful? But that's what we get out of Twitter all the time, is we get the full spectrum of people.
01:11:33
Speaker
Does it not feel deceitful? this I don't know. I don't know. i i mean It feels like we didn't expect people. He deceived people. He deceived people. I mean, dude, that the whole point of being a Christian is you make mistakes, you ask for forgiveness, and you try to be a better person after that.
01:11:54
Speaker
That's the whole point of being like a good Christian. So how many times did he make this mistake? Is he now only going to try to correct it because he got caught? well Maybe. i don't know, dude. it's not We don't know. We don't know the details.
01:12:07
Speaker
Yeah. yeah i've i that's i mean, that's a good question. But like does it feel deceitful? I don't feel deceived. I feel let a little let down.
01:12:19
Speaker
i feel surprised, which is like... don't but i don'tynoym So your image of Kyle hasn't shifted at all? No, it has. I just said I feel let down and I feel like disappointed for sure.
01:12:30
Speaker
But I don't feel like he betrayed me or that he owes me anything. like yeah He doesn't owe me any kind of... like apology or anything like that. And that's fine for you to feel that he doesn't, but it's also fine for other people to think that, that they, I think there's a limit. I don't think that there's a limit to Twitter and just explaining, like, I'm just talking about this Mike to Ray, Oh dude, did you see his tweet? That's what I was talking about specifically where he tweeted a long tweet about how
01:13:02
Speaker
no, apology like, what is this statement? No apology to fans, to the kids at the camps too. And it's like, dude, who made you like, who made you like, it's not your decision to make whether or not, you know, he he must, maybe he's got a kid who feels greatly affected by this. And so he feels he's got to voice his opinion.
01:13:28
Speaker
and i don't know father And the father, that's totally okay. Sure. i don't i mean, but and that's the thing. I'm just saying what how I feel about the situation. Sure. I mean, i obviously, I'm not going act like i also i didn't say it begins and ends with me, but I'm saying how I feel about the situation. He doesn't owe Mike Torreiro an apology. That's how I feel. You're going to get the full range. Anyone specific? No. But, mom mean, maybe a general people.
01:13:59
Speaker
that's I mean, if i think i think it would be that's what he feels like he needs to do, then yeah. I just don't think it' would be better i don't think it's right for us to also disparage people who think that they do need an apology or would like an apology. Like, I feel like it is their right to feel that way.
01:14:15
Speaker
and yeah I just don't think you need to disparage Kyle Snyder further. He's already, you know, I'm sure he already feels terrible about this whole situation. Why do you have to take to Twitter and further criticize his opening, his immediate statement?
01:14:32
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, shouldn't more negativity to the he just of made a ah ah statement to begin with. Why not? Interesting.
01:14:47
Speaker
Because why, why, why not? I mean, i mean like you said, it's only going to hurt, right? it only it only makes it worse. So why say- I don't know. I mean- It made his intentions clear. My focus is on my my connection with the Lord and my family. like And like that is what the focus should be.
01:15:05
Speaker
yeah it's not He didn't say anything negative. That's um but that's important to me the whole Just don't say just don't be so further bring negativity to this situation. Just be supportive and be and so try to be understanding. try to be ah What a good Christian would would do is be understanding.
01:15:24
Speaker
Yeah. Cause like, what, what would you want in it? Like put yourself in Kyle Snyder's shoes, you know? Uh, I think the best thing for him would probably be some degree of support. Um, and so I think, you know, I mean, it's Twitter, you're going to get the full spectrum, but Yeah. I think at some point during this whole debate or did discussion, the, the great question of what would Jesus do came up in my mind.
01:15:51
Speaker
Uh, and it's like, yeah, you gotta just forgive and find a way to help. that's, you know, and do you, do you have a right to feel deceived?
01:16:02
Speaker
Yes. Do you, um, do you want to say that, uh, Kyle Snyder has people that he should apologize to.
01:16:13
Speaker
Sure. sp mean, particularly the kids. That's, that's, you know, the biggest thing in my mind is he's got a lot of people who look up to him as a role model and he wants to, I'm guessing probably continue to be able to do things the right way to, you know, encourage them to live the right lives. so So it's just trying to take as much positivity as you can from the situation.
01:16:37
Speaker
So, yeah.
01:16:40
Speaker
But hey, I think we did this in the right order because ah if people really wanted our thoughts on this. They got we' gonna a great 20 minute bid at it. I mean, why what do you think? I don't know. I think it was totally fine.
01:16:53
Speaker
Oh.
01:16:56
Speaker
Andy's back. Who? Me? you You popped out there for like two cent i don't know. you I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, we leave it in. it's absolutely good that's That's fine. Yeah. I think it's totally fine. I don't know.
01:17:07
Speaker
think it was a great discussion.
01:17:10
Speaker
on, on, on a set of different viewpoints about the situation. The only, the only reason i would think like that to say not leaving it in is this like, I feel like, who am I, you know, to even.
01:17:28
Speaker
We're just, I mean, it's just three brothers given a, given the people a discussion on ah a subject that has. What? Who is anyone who is anyone to give their opinion on anything?
01:17:40
Speaker
Exactly. Yeah. ah What was I going to say? gone.
01:17:51
Speaker
Whatever it was.
01:17:55
Speaker
Oh, I do think that, like, i don't want see the i don't want to see the police footage. I don't want to... i don't want i got the news, and that's all I want.
01:18:06
Speaker
Like, okay, this happened. Dude, I mean... I saw like the Twitter video of it and I'm like, all right, yeah I don't want to see. I saw the one with the TMZ watermark.
01:18:17
Speaker
Yeah. It does bring me great joy to, it did bring me great joy to watch the police have to put his pants back on him.
01:18:26
Speaker
They just got a face full of Kyle Snyder balls. ah um ah Yeah, you guys wouldn't even let the man put his pants on himself. So yeah, now you guys have to do it.
01:18:37
Speaker
You sickos. Stare right at his balls while you do it too. It's serious. It was a serious, serious thing. So serious. Very serious. Well, you never know. Yeah. And like hiding a gun in his pants and he could have reached down. I'm sure this is what the police were thinking, by the way.
01:18:55
Speaker
ah Just be as safe as possible, right? You just never know. You never know. That's just fine. But I definitely did, like when I first was hearing the rumors about this, I definitely did blow it up in my mind in terms of the gravity of the situation. Well, when Ryan told me about it, I swear that he said um sex trafficking, dude. that's That's part of what people were saying. I never said that.
01:19:24
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know why heard that. That might have been me. That might have been me. No, Ryan told me on the phone. I said, prostitution sting. I just for some reason went right to sex trafficking and I was stunned. I had i had no words at that point. I said,
01:19:41
Speaker
right no Dude, I was i was ah talking to some other guys about like the the defense that some of the Penn State wrestlers were coming to. And I'm like, yeah, like if this happened with an Iowa wrestler, some of these guys would be clowning whoever. was I said if this happened to – I'm like if mike if this happened to Austin DeSanto, these guys would be all over it. I don't agree with that. way funnier if it happened to Austin DeSanto. I don't agree with that.
01:20:07
Speaker
What? I don't think the Penn State guys would come be coming down on that if this was an Iowa person. You don't think Carter would – You don't think Carter like – Maybe not immediately afterwards, but like a year later. Josh Barr and like all these other guys. Yeah, Josh Barr wouldn't say anything, but Carter Sturacci would probably have something to say. Yeah, I don't expect Carter Sturacci to do the right thing ever.
01:20:28
Speaker
Dude, it's crazy that he he puts out like we like whatever Bible quote he put out and then Pat Downey did something and then right immediately he goes right back to being Carter Sturacci. Yeah.
Social Media and Podcast Engagement
01:20:38
Speaker
Holy shit.
01:20:41
Speaker
That's crazy. ah But yeah, people... don't think any of the athletes went outside of Carter. I don't think that anyone would any of them would say anything. Probably. Publicly, at least. Dylan, I love why... like Why is Dylan Plesio... He is so confused as to why he like got blocked by Kyle Snyder. That is just... I mean, dude, you're super smart. like How can you not understand why he's blocked? Oh, no. That's how smart he is. is he Dude, he has this persona that he puts out on the internet, and it's just...
01:21:11
Speaker
yeah I don't want It's great for social media interaction. because I did not feel like I wanted to disparage him. ah Meanwhile, in other tweets, you have the article screenshotted, you know, and posted and retweeted. And then you call him baby Dick King. And then you call and then you put in a freedom of information act to get the body cam footage. And like, which is I don't think that's I don't think he did that.
01:21:34
Speaker
You don't think he really did it? I think as soon as you saw that the TMZ thing, he was like, I did this. He was like, put in a FOIA. Yeah, I FOIA'd that shit. I wanted to see my my BDK.
01:21:49
Speaker
I don't know. Whatever. i mean, Dylan Palacios is his own person. One of a kind. And ah our show is one of a kind. So if you like it, be sure to subscribe and share with all your friends and and do all the good things for retention and all that stuff.
01:22:05
Speaker
Closing thoughts.
01:22:09
Speaker
Good wrestling this weekend. The Rainy Twins. Rainy Twins. Rainy Twins tomorrow. They'll probably be committed by the time. What are you guys guessing? um What are the top five?
01:22:20
Speaker
Illinois, Iowa, nok ohio state Nebraska. Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State. Thank you. I don't know. Iowa. Give me Ohio State.
01:22:31
Speaker
is either I it was going to be Iowa or Illinois, but I am hearing that ah Oklahoma State and Ohio State are making big pushes for them. ah you me Give me Ohio State. Oklahoma State wouldn't make sense to me.
01:22:46
Speaker
Oklahoma State wouldn't make sense unless they get way bigger. ah my guess is my My real guess is probably Iowa, but I'm just going to say Ohio State just for fun.
01:22:54
Speaker
And yeah, we'll see. And we'll see you. We'll see you on the next episode. that tells anything. Goodbye. so just chill. Bye-bye, people.
01:23:05
Speaker
Till the next episode.