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Tumblereads 10: Chores

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We're talking about characters doing chores in romance books today: what purpose they might serve, and if we like reading about them. 

If you know if a romance book where characters clean the toilet, please tell us about it.

Full show notes at smutreport.com/podcast.

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Introduction and Podcast Format Overview

00:00:00
Speaker
na na na smut report hello welcome to the smut report podcast this is tumble reads aaron was making a face in my my announcer voice i won't start no it was a pop-up it wasn't my bad my bad Anyway, i Holly, will be emceeing us today.
00:00:22
Speaker
i hope you guys are ready. We're so not ready. I'm not ready. It's fine. Ingrid's ready for anything. I'm ready for anything. I had a nap already this morning, so I'm feeling pretty strong. How? Nice. How is that possible?
00:00:35
Speaker
I am a champion napper. It was a good 40-minute speed nap. Feeling fresh. I'm so impressed. I'm so impressed. Sorry, I don't mean to brag. Anyway, I'm our fearless leader today, and I'm Holly.
00:00:48
Speaker
I'm Ingrid. The nap queen. yeah And I'm Erin. All right, so let me set our timer. As a reminder, Tumble Reads is where we just like...
00:01:01
Speaker
do whatever, talk about whatever, no plan, no anything. Okay. But I, so here's my, I have a tiny plan. Kind of.
00:01:13
Speaker
And I was going to say, we'll see if we fill up the time, but like we always fill up the time because that is our problem. And so this Sky.
00:01:24
Speaker
bar by thing i saw on blue sky Uh, so apparently in a recent episode of Fated Mates, uh, Jen and Sarah who run Fated Mates, uh, which is another romance podcast, um, that is more established and famous than ours, but really good and and really good.
00:01:47
Speaker
It is really good. yeah um recently talked about chores and romance books and how they don't like them. And maybe this wasn't recent.

Chores in Romance Books: Initial Thoughts

00:01:56
Speaker
Maybe this was actually an old episode that like,
00:01:59
Speaker
ah started a little conversation. um You know, but chores, like, and how they don't like watching characters do chores and the drudgery of it. And i i and there was a response to that that I think I'll bring up later, but I wanted to get your guys' take on that. And I will admit that I have not listened to and any of their conversation about chores because it takes me so long to listen to a podcast, which is really funny since we do one. But like, I listened to their Gorilla Twins episode, which came out like a month ago, and it took me like five days. And, um...
00:02:38
Speaker
And it did make me a little bit rethink this book and how it might be better than I thought it was, but I can't reread it because I just got so angry on behalf of the baby gorilla that they orphaned for stupid reasons.
00:02:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, but that's, a problem when you get hung up on one tiny thing that's not even supposed to be, like. Yeah, but I'm just, like, so mad about the gorilla about the gorillas in this book that i I, like, can't deal with, like, the twin swap stuff. Yeah.
00:03:10
Speaker
Anyway. right. Anyway.

Analyzing 'Getting My Goat' by Jessica Olin

00:03:12
Speaker
chores. Okay. But let's talk about chores. And romance. And romance. And, you know, especially I feel like in like playing house books, there's this oh yeah trend of we are going to show us just living in the house together and washing dishes or cleaning toilets Really? I've never seen anyone clean a toilet. I've never seen anyone clean a toilet. get what you're saying, though. what you're saying. but I have seen washing dishes. Yes.
00:03:41
Speaker
And I recently read um Getting My Goat by Jessica Olin, which is like a paranormal he's a satyr kind of romance um hence the goat thing um but they spend she's been they spend a lot of time talking about like laundry and ah litter boxes and just like the basic domestic stuff and i was like this is kind of a drudgery slog so
00:04:11
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah. So ah I'll ah go ahead and say short answer. What's it there for? And if it's not there for reasons, then.
00:04:23
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Obviously, like who wants to read that? um And what I mean, let's see, I guess I can expand on that. So something that's just like so I think with respect to food prep, cooking and washing dishes. Right.
00:04:36
Speaker
That is probably what I see primarily is it in books in terms of daily upkeep chores. but But that is... so like I think the challenging thing about that is the kitchen is a community space often.
00:04:51
Speaker
Not my kitchen. No, that's not true. Everybody comes into my... I'm like, this is my calming space. I'm just going to sit here and chop these vegetables until i feel calm again. But the...
00:05:02
Speaker
Do you want to come live in my kitchen? can listen to Fader Mates together. and It's just like, let's just process this right now. um But, you know, it's like, ah usually it's a center of the house area.
00:05:18
Speaker
People are coming and going. You sit and stand in there and have conversations. Like even if you're the only one cooking, That doesn't prevent you from having a chat um or frequently it's presented as like a team activity. I mean, I was

Historical Context and Chores

00:05:34
Speaker
gifted book called I don't even remember what the title is. Maybe I'll find it if you want to put put it in the notes, but it's like um date night.
00:05:43
Speaker
sat home kind of cooking a meal and it's like got a meal plan and it's like partner one does these things and partner two does these things and you prep the meal together and then you enjoy the meal together and this is like your date activity okay spoiler my husband and I have never actually done this on account of like On account of it's not calm when someone else chops your vegetable, Aaron. Yeah, it's not calm when somebody else comes in and tries to cook in my kitchen.
00:06:12
Speaker
And he's just like, yeah, i would eat peanut butter and bread all the time. So he doesn't he's not as excited about it as me. But if both part if like both parties are kind of in the same space of like, let's do this together, it can be ah kind of an intimacy exercise.
00:06:26
Speaker
So I feel like that is one set of chore activities that kind of... Makes sense. Makes sense, especially in a playing house scenario in a book. As for the rest, like when you're talking about cleaning litter boxes and stuff, it's like, what does that serve? I could see a ma like a ah maid or servant or some kind of characterization.
00:06:46
Speaker
element that would call for chores like if we think back to the spoon book for example and we're thinking about how she's presenting her work like this is her job of and the ways that it was contributing to their marriage and like what it was building in comparison to what the other characters were doing you know right it was it was doing something yeah Just the process of doing chores. Yeah. Like, what is that doing? I think a lot of authors who don't have strong dev edits get lost in that kind of minutiae and it doesn't get cut.
00:07:23
Speaker
And then we end up with, you know, 400 page books that don't have a lot of grabby yeah stuff. well and i feel like also if there's just maybe i'm speaking too broadly but i feel like there is this trend is in these like vibes only books where the vibe is we're in this together and we're playing house and we're supporting each other and everything is nicecy nicey nicey feel like that's kind of where i'm seeing them but yeah well and also i think that i think that there's
00:07:55
Speaker
So I think the dishes and cooking, cooking probably first, then dishes. But I'm looking at it more like ah in a historical context that, um you know, we are looking for.

Chores as Literary Tools

00:08:06
Speaker
i think I think it's this. I think that this is part of the. So Aaron's looking at it from a literary tool standpoint, which I think is like the the the bar that like this should be used for. Yeah. Like we're doing a mind swap right now.
00:08:18
Speaker
Right. so So, yeah, right? I i know, right Because I don't do history here. So, like, i don't know what's happening. It's my nap. Something happened to me. Anyway, um but I'm looking at it in terms of history because I'm sitting here thinking, like, well, you know, we're also trying to define what a good hero would look like.
00:08:37
Speaker
Back in the day, it was, like, protection. It was... earning potential, it was providing, it was, you know, firmness, it was that, you know, and over time, you know, it turns out that the slog of daily housework is what really kind of dulls a lot of the shine from women nowadays.
00:08:56
Speaker
So it makes complete sense to me that we're finding more examples of heroes who will roll up their sleeves and without being asked and will do work do you know what i mean and the the easiest because i don't think i don't think i think it's really hard to make cleaning a toilet sexy i mean i'm sorry it just it there's just okay but do you remember there's that scene in the movie chocolat like that for with juliette bono and johnny depp like so it's so it's like 20 years old right yeah but
00:09:27
Speaker
Oh, it's more than 20 years old. It was already old when I was watched it in college. But anyway. Okay, whatever. thirty i watched it I remember watching it in high school and it being kind of new then. So i i I'm only 35, obviously. yeah But like there's a scene where that it's a secondary character. like She's like, my marriage is dead. And Juliette Binoche is like, here's aphrodisiac candy.
00:09:52
Speaker
And she goes home. And she's like... I don't believe in like throws them in the trash and then her gross husband eats them out of the trash and then comes in and sees her scrubbing the toilet and is like.
00:10:04
Speaker
Yeah, because her butt's sticking out of the bathroom and she's like wiggling it. yeah So. ah All right. All right. Holly, you have found an example. And I know it's like kind of played for laughs and like like he you know, he's like this like gross guy who doesn't appreciate his wife.
00:10:23
Speaker
So anyway. Yeah. Well, so I'm not saying you couldn't make it attractive. I'm saying that it's not top of mind for like sexy household chores, you know? And like even vacuuming, I could see being attractive. Like but when you push the vacuum back and forth and there's rippling muscles, like, you know, i get it.
00:10:39
Speaker
and There are things that you could do, but it feels like cooking in dishes, and feeding someone, nourishing someone, and then cleaning up afterwards. You could just sit like a little whale belly. Like, I just think that that is very common in books.
00:10:51
Speaker
And so, um But yeah, I think that there, maybe this is one of those tools where there's kind of a line in the sand and it just doesn't, it's not hot anymore it's, you know, we we don't want to think about the day in and day out drudgery when we're reading, you know.
00:11:07
Speaker
now I will say this, we've had conversations when we did other deep dives where there are niches of books where there's a lot of housework and chore work. And those are like Westerns and historicals and, and. um Well, not Regencies though.
00:11:21
Speaker
Like if there's like a Regency with chore work where it's like, what? Well, but the work is different in those books and that's why you don't see it because they don't do chores. They don't do it. Right. So um there's that. But like, let's say you have a ah couple who is on some kind of quest or they're, you know, running for their lives. Well, the chore work of staying alive then and becomes relevant.
00:11:42
Speaker
So then it's in there, you know? Mm-hmm. So it's just interesting what kind of work we're talking about here. And maybe they were specifically focusing on contemporary because if that's the case, like, yeah, hard agree.
00:11:53
Speaker
I don't really care. All I want to know is I want some proof that they're going to share the housework because for some reason that really, i don't, I like it when in contemporary couples, it's very clear that they're going to have like I just don't buy the happily ever after if the guy doesn't know how to like, you know, clean a

Realism and Chore Depictions in Romance Novels

00:12:12
Speaker
bathroom sink. Just kidding. But like, clear like share the housework. yeah But how much i wonder, how like, how much of this is just like the vibes romance?
00:12:22
Speaker
Like, how much is this coming into play? Because it's kind of like, it seems like it would be something along the lines of um the Oh, God, I lost my train of thought. It's something along the lines of um like other daily functions. Right. Like, right. I don't need to read about the characters putting on deodorant into every morning.
00:12:43
Speaker
But there is a romance where this is where i think this is where I think other podcasts and our podcasts perhaps diverge a little is that some other podcasters may discuss this question and just discuss it. ah you know But we, with our brains, are like, well, how many romances have ever done this?
00:13:02
Speaker
How do we categorize this? but Let's track this and see if we can understand exactly how often this is happening. Yeah. But so like going back to Erin and the deodorant, it's like we don't need to see them bathing every day.
00:13:14
Speaker
Right. But you know how often I've seen that happen? But some people get irritated about that. Yes. Sorry, Ingrid, what? No, I so we ever since we discussed that, ah which podcast was it? We were discussing the Was it in the spoon book where she was like, let's poke? And I was like, blah. Maybe that's where it started. But it was were talking about this book that I read where she's a teacher and he well, she's being like a temporary governess and he hauls bath water in for her every night. That's very cool. Oh, yeah. We were talking about like books that give us the ick. Yes. Thank you. You remember. we were talking about bathing. Yes. Right.
00:13:49
Speaker
So ever since we had that conversation, I've been paint i've been kind of like I had this little mental flag and I'll be i'll be darned Like, what book am I reading right now? Or I was, I was just reading.
00:14:00
Speaker
Is it that I'm reading right now? I, I'm reading too many books. i I just have been pounding them one after the other. Anyway, I was reading it. It's romanticcy, obviously, but there's a daily bath. Someone, and it's, it is literally mentioned every day when my daily bath is here.
00:14:15
Speaker
My daily bath is here. My daily bath is here. See, that sounds like a tedious chore to me. Yeah. Well, she's a princess. So like someone else is hauling it up. It just appears and she's like, oh, it's for me. But the point that trying to make is if you've established, if you establish in chapter one that she gets a daily bath, then like, why does, why do we need to talk about her daily bath?
00:14:32
Speaker
I'm assuming I think it's what I'm reading now because I now that you mentioned I'm assuming that it's gonna come to light that he's hauling it up you know what mean oh we're doing we're doing a like princess bride as you wish kind of thing that's what I think but like but you know but point I'm trying to make is that now that you're mentioning it like I'm seeing more and more books where the frequency of bathing is coming up and I wonder if it's because it's becomes kind of a joke that like oh they never take baths and now it's like well we better mention that they're bathing right Well, so that is the thing. Some people get so fixated on stuff. And I will say there are times when I'm like, okay, now you're doing this and you did not say word one about like even a throwaway, oh, I cleaned up. It doesn't have to be like a whole sentence even.
00:15:18
Speaker
But like just the indicator that something happened. It's the same with the marriage problems. Like just give me an indicator that you talk to a lawyer about your assets after you die. But but so I can see how some people would be like, you know, I read a lot of Romance this night and whenever they get into rimming, I'm like.
00:15:40
Speaker
okay i hope that we cleaned up first or like or like like that's fine um you know what i've done before is sometimes if i'm like they just throw on a horse and now they're getting down and he's right and i'll be like sweating after exercise like i just pause and i just tell myself they cleaned up i just put it in my own head but okay but there is yeah see But I feel like then we're running into this balance. Okay, so say we're talking about, you know, like Alexis Holland for real has that scene with the lemon meringue pie.
00:16:16
Speaker
And it's ah all about him making the lemon meringue pie and all the mess he makes. and But there's not a scene where he cleans it up. And I don't want the scene where he cleans it don't need that. That's unnecessary.
00:16:27
Speaker
But maybe some people are like, ah, but I... i want to My OCD needs to know that you you didn't leave lemon meringue mess all over this beautiful, pristine kitchen.
00:16:40
Speaker
and and And also then you did some sexy stuff and did that sting or did you wash your hands first? Right? like Yeah. Well, and so bringing it back to cho household chores, right? It's it's just, i mean, I think that, ah so for me, I don't, I like it when it's like ah they're in a survival situation because it's deb at the purpose of that shows that they're working together. to There's intimacy being built through shared labor, right?
00:17:10
Speaker
Right. Which I think there's something to be said for that in contemporary novels too, just in a different way. um I mean, but i think I think you're right. There's kind of like an almost invisible line in the sand and everybody has a different one. So like finding that perfect line in the stand that nobody's going to have a problem with how frequently they mention wiping down their kitchen countertops is...
00:17:32
Speaker
Not something I think authors should be too concerned about. But, um you know, yeah, I completely agree that I think that it's just, you know, sometimes we need the information and sometimes we don't. And you know it when you see it.
00:17:45
Speaker
Yeah. You know, I think fixating on a line in the same. Yes. Some people are going to be like overthinking stuff no matter what. But. And we all have our different things that we overcome no matter what. So there's nothing that, yes, Ingrid's right. You can't like guarantee that it's nothing is going to be a problem 100% of the time, if you even if you are the most careful that you've ever been.
00:18:07
Speaker
But there there are opportunities to think about whether or not Some level of acknowledgement makes sense in the context of the story and the characterization.
00:18:21
Speaker
And if it doesn't, then it shouldn't go there. And if it does, then it makes sense why it's there, even if you don't. And that's like kind of across the board, right? So if it's... You know, the character has OCD, for example, and part of their thing is wiping the countertops every morning, then okay.
00:18:40
Speaker
That's in there for a reason because it's one of the ways that we're seeing the OCD manifest on page, for example. But... but Just in and even just like the throwaway line of cleaning up like right like I said there are going to be times when an author is going to be like yeah I should probably acknowledge that XYZ happened just to prevent that brain glitch in a reader because it could go smoother if I just say this one little thing right whatever that is if it's cleaning up the lemon meringue pie or taking a quick shower before getting down or whatever.
00:19:15
Speaker
um but but yeah if it's just like gratuitous chores then why is it there like what is it there are other ways to show intimacy yeah or to show the characters supporting each other than that so interestingly there's one author i'm thinking of god and i'm you guys have read her i don't think it's ali winters although maybe it is it's the one that i talk about where it's she She writes and she builds tension, but you don't know what it feels like so low-key that you don't think tension That's eie Winters. Yeah.
00:19:45
Speaker
So she adds so much of that kind of detail to her books. And if you just said like, oh, you know, then she cleans up and she goes to the fair or whatever, you know, um you'd be like, well, that's probably gratuitous, right? That's probably not necessary. But while she's doing stuff, she's thinking.
00:20:01
Speaker
So a lot of it is kind of like, she's kind of like processing while she does it, but not in a way i like, it's very, it's, she processes in a very show don't tell way. i don't know how else to put it. So I have, I think that she is somebody who she has her characters clean more and do like daily household stuff. Like she doesn't, she'll, if her character goes from point A to point B, you will almost always in my experience, see the person like do something to prepare to go.
00:20:28
Speaker
Or like when they come back, there's like all this daily transition life that's in her books more than anyone else I've seen. But she has this like really kind of slow creep of suspension and tension. And I think she adds those cleanup daily drudgery things in really key places so that it kind of slows down the pace.
00:20:47
Speaker
you know what i mean? While she's kind of processing. And I think that's really interesting because I'm this is just coming to mind right now while we're talking through this where it being a tool not overtly but like in service of another tool. Do know what I mean? So like she'll add the drugud the slow drudgery like, okay She's cleaning up.
00:21:05
Speaker
Should I go to this thing? I don't know. Maybe I should text someone so that I'm leaving. No, it's okay. I'll just be really fast. Gramps your keys and walks. You know, it's like slows it down a little bit and then something bad happens. It's about the chore. It's about the processing. Right. It is about the processing, but she's using the chore because if she just processed, I would not like it because I would be like, stop with the being in her head all the time. It makes it so instead of just being in her head all the time, she's doing something else. And it feels more realistic to me.
00:21:32
Speaker
You know what i mean I don't just sit there and think about my problems. I'm doing stuff, you know? Yeah. It's like that how people do TikTok videos now where they talk at the camera while they're washing the dishes. Exactly.
00:21:44
Speaker
Or putting makeup on or whatever. yeah Yes, whatever. Yeah. And so like in that respect, because I i'm i was sitting here trying to think of of books where there's a lot of that kind of like household drudgery and stuff. Yeah.
00:21:56
Speaker
And that is one where like there or like, for example, in university, doing homework, constantly studying or walking from point A to point B for classes. And there's all of that stuff that I don't normally see in books like that.
00:22:07
Speaker
But it's ah when I was thinking about it, it's almost always doing something else at the same time. And it slows it down so much that there's like this creep and you're like, oh, what's happening? Something's going to happen. It's like in a movie when the um soundtrack in the back stops and the character's doing something really like benign and you just know something bad's going to happen.
00:22:27
Speaker
you know It's like that.

Chores in Queer Romance: Nathan Burgoine's Viewpoint

00:22:29
Speaker
Okay, sorry, I gotta derail this conversation because we're 24 minutes and I want to know what quote Holly was going to bring in later. Oh, yeah! Okay, so came to this um because Nathan Burgon was talking about it and that because for him he is a queer man who writes MMRomance his home with his partner is his safe space where he doesn't have to check over his shoulder. Mm-hmm.
00:22:59
Speaker
And that... um And I'll link... He wrote a great piece several years about ago about the checking over his shoulder to see if he's seeing The shoulder check problem that I'll link to in the show notes.
00:23:11
Speaker
um And that the act of showing... these kinds of relate of daily drudgery things in queer romance for him is about establishing this zone that is just for us. And that it might read, like, and it doesn't seem to have the same, like, a literary merit, like, what's the, how does it progress in the story, but like a kind of a bigger...
00:23:38
Speaker
and big I think that's right, though. Showing that. Well, that's part of like the relationship. bill Yes, I 100% get where he's coming from, having read ah thousand of these books, too. And there is definitely that element of this is this is our space or like, yes, I get that.
00:23:57
Speaker
But I feel like it's not necessarily about the chores. It's about the intimacy that the couple or throuple or whatever they has built to identify their safe space together, if that makes sense. And that chores are just one tool that yeah an author can use to identify this space together. I will say that that's where a lot of the cooking and dishes stuff definitely comes up in my reading, is in like queer playing house books, where they're like, you know.
00:24:27
Speaker
Look how great this could feel all the time.

Personal Feelings on Chores in Romance Books

00:24:30
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I like that. that's interesting it is a good point well that's what I guess that's it' still a tool thing though because it's it's identified in a way that is building it's not just a safe space though because the safe space is there because of the built intimacy like it wouldn't be a safe space if they didn't have the relationship with each other where they can feel safe if that makes sense yeah so it's it's likes like it's like chicken an intimacy building thing as well yeah
00:25:01
Speaker
I mean, and I think honestly, and I'm probably, i can see that I may be the, you know, oddball here, but I also just think that it's really like all right when dudes do chores, maybe just. Well, okay. But i love what about if we're talking about, um, hetero romance when, when the ladies are doing chores?
00:25:20
Speaker
no I don't want to do that okay i I mean I can see it that one is more i have a lower threshold for that but I just yeah I don't know I like I I just love ah I just love a guy who rolls up his sleeves and just gets stuff done you know I just think there's just it's the best yeah I yeah probably a lot of this is just like it's too close to home there's too much mental load here I deal with the litter box on my own I really don't want to just Sorry to harp on the litter box. I'm not picking on that one in particular. its yeah no hol race
00:25:51
Speaker
I mean, i mean it I was just like, whoa, you're really talking about laundry again? Like, I mean, and she doesn't give detail about cleaning the litter box. Just like, like, this is my Saturday. i got to do my chores. And litter box is one of them.
00:26:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's I feel like I feel like anything bathroom toilet related, any animal or human. I I'm okay with less of that in.
00:26:16
Speaker
You know what I actually don't like good point because like any romance where somebody walks a dog and doesn't scoop the poop. To be fair, if I saw that in real life, I would judge you so hard.
00:26:29
Speaker
Yeah. But I've never noticed in a romance novel. Dogs don't poop in romance novels, Holly. Unless it's cute and unless it's like a cute Georgian and the dog is like pooping on the carpet and like problematic ways.
00:26:41
Speaker
No, so I, one of one of my, and this is, I know we're over, but like one of my, you know how we all have those little things we can't, we focus on and we shouldn't, but we we know we shouldn't, but we can't help it. Mine is when they find an animal and they're on a ship or like before they get on the ship or like they rescue an animal. do you know how many times this happens in romanticcy? Because they always have a little animal sidekick like all the time. And they're like, we'll keep it on board. And then I'm like, where do you think this mangy dog you just found on the docks is going to do his business?
00:27:09
Speaker
All over the floor of the ship. Like somebody is going to have to scrub, swap, and it's not going to be you because you're a princess. Anyway, point. I thought we already clarified that dogs don't poop in romance. Right. So, but listen, that's true but there's this, but there's a book that I just read. That's a Scottish one. And like the big, like action moment at the end, like, you know, where everything ties together happens in the privy on the back of the boat where like, you'd like lean your butt over and go in the water. And it's like, and it's like very clear that that's where it's happening. And that's like, she had to go to the bathroom and that's what she needed to go do.
00:27:43
Speaker
And that's when it happened. And I was like, oh my gosh. Anyway,

Conclusion and Listener Engagement

00:27:46
Speaker
so you never know. What happening? I think that is a good end to our discussion. You're welcome. Tie it up with a bow. Tie it up with it off the side of a boat.
00:27:57
Speaker
charming charming anyway uh that's tumble reads thanks for joining us as we talk about all kinds of bodily functions of humans and animals be chores but things went astray things living is part of chores you know like the daily drudgery is cleaning up all the bodily functions that happened in your house true yeah true anyway or helping them happen in the case of the kitchen You know, you you got to eat.
00:28:25
Speaker
You got to eat. That's a bodily function. Okay. No. I was like, what are you doing in your kitchen? hu Yes, come join me in my kitchen. I was like, you can't eat at everybody's house. I thought we could eat at Holly's, but. All right. Oh, my Lord. Sign off.
00:28:40
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