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Derek Nance on Navigating the Health Field, Eating Nose to Tail, Broken Food systems, and the Terrain Model of Health
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In this week's episode, we had Derek Nance as our guest! Derek has been on a raw meat diet for 13 years. He practices beyond organic living, harvests his own meat, eats nose to tail, and relies heavily on instinct and intuition for direction.
We started the conversation off by discussing the parameters of navigating the complicated field of what truly is healthy and how that has changed over time. The conversation flowed into discussing the interfering factors of health and how connecting to nature allows us to avoid these. We discussed how nose-to-tail eating, harvesting your own food, and connecting with your food source can help in connecting with nature. This snowballed into discussing the backward food system from farm to table. We continued the discussion talking about the environmentalism movement and how many are taken advantage of because of their big hearts and steered in the wrong direction.
In the second half of the discussion, we turned to talk about microbes, which included true sources of disease, pleiomorphism, what symptoms are, and how suppressing them leads to further disease. We finished with a few notes on the transhumanist agenda, which opened a short discussion on the necessity for struggle as humans and how comfort can be a trap!
I hope you enjoy the episode!
(Around 48 minutes, Derek's video is not aligned with his audio. Don't let this distract you from his wise words!)
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Transcript
Introduction: Meet Derek Nance
00:00:01
Speaker
All right. What's up everybody. We're back. Another episode beyond terrain podcast. Uh, this week we got Derek Nance on, uh, he's 13 years strong on the raw meat based diet, uh, practices, uh, beyond organic living, which we're going to explore a little bit more
Instinct, Intuition, and Critique of Materialistic Biology
00:00:16
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here. Uh, he harvests his own meat, eats nose to tail, relies heavy on, uh, instinct and intuition for his direction, uh, in health and in general. And, uh,
00:00:27
Speaker
I think we agree on a lot of the same principles here. He's very critical of the molecular view of biological and of the biological aspects of science in the physical realm. It's more than the physical realm. It's not just a concoction of chemicals. So yeah, Derek, thanks for coming on.
00:00:56
Speaker
added a few things in there with your view on biology there. If you want to clear anything up there, you can do that now. No, it's just, yeah, I am a critic of the molecular view of biology. The idea that everything is just materialistic and that there's nothing for us as individual human beings to just
00:01:19
Speaker
add to it with our spirit, with our aspirations, where we see where the human race and life on earth should evolve. I think it's a creative effort. And I think that we as individual living human beings have much more to us than what the scientific worldview and the materialistic ethos have to offer.
Paleolithic Consciousness in Modern Life
00:01:41
Speaker
And so here I am, a throwback, calling back upon the archaic
00:01:47
Speaker
paleolithic consciousness, the consciousness from which we came, saying, wait a minute, maybe we should go back and explore some of this and not just go headlong into this scientific, let's just create this new cyborg human and not even worry about the ramifications.
Personal Health Aspirations and Challenges
00:02:06
Speaker
kind of on a different level. And from the perspective that I have, you know, living this way that I've lived for the last 13 years, it's quite unique. And I just want to give other people an insight into what I've learned over the last decade or more studying things from a very unique perspective. That's fantastic. I don't think we could have started the podcast off better than that. So I like to ask my guests, I like to say, I like to ask them,
00:02:34
Speaker
kind of define health, you know, so we can get a little baseline and work from there. So what what is healthy? What does it look like? What does it feel like? Well, health is a it's my life goal and aspiration. And it's something that I had to
00:02:51
Speaker
lose to appreciate. And so when I was going through a lot of health challenges in my early 20s, you can imagine why somebody in the prime of life is going through these struggles. And this can't be right. This can't be what we were designed to do and how we were designed to feel.
00:03:11
Speaker
And there's a lot of pushback from society and maybe there's a lot of people who are resigned to feeling bad. And just that is what they've become accustomed to. And I just could never be okay with it. And I always thought, well, there's got to be where there's a will, there's a way. And you can find a way to health and wellbeing.
00:03:32
Speaker
on your own. And so I was always into looking into things. And maybe I've gone straight, maybe it's led me down some very wrong roads when I first had my health challenges. Oh, maybe I'll try vegetarianism. Maybe I'll try taking a bunch of supplements. Maybe I'll try to drink nothing but reverse osmosis water. So like all these little
00:03:56
Speaker
efforts of mine to gain health, regain health, and then fail time and time again, I think we're part of a learning process. And so it's constantly in flux. Every stage of your life development, you need different things to be optimally healthy. And then when you reach a certain age of reason, it's not necessarily just about optimal physical health. It's about spiritual growth, deeper meaning, a greater connection, all these other things.
00:04:26
Speaker
kind of equate to health because if you don't have that satisfaction of a life purpose, what does it matter if you just feel good? There's not really a meaning behind it. It's just this great euphoria of an experience and then you pass on, you know, I mean, might as well live like a mat might as well live like the moth fluttering around until you hit the flame if you have
00:04:49
Speaker
that mentality is like, no, no, you have to crystallize that experience and use it to evolve and to grow and to develop. And so that's where health is. If you don't have that underlying health of the biological being that can interface with the mind and the greater system of the cosmos, then you don't have
Evolving with Technology and Health
00:05:10
Speaker
what I think is the full spectrum of human experience. And so I tried to cultivate that by making my body healthy so that it can be the vehicle from which the spirit can move through this world and thrive even, regardless of what the circumstances on the ground are, regardless of what terrain the technological
00:05:35
Speaker
society seems to be throwing at us and it is coming fast. So you better prepare. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like you can kind of get that protection to through the spiritual realm and, you know,
00:05:50
Speaker
Tapping into it, I get where you're coming from, how having that vessel in perfect condition to be able to tap in as good as possible. But I do feel like there is that aspect of, you know, once your mentality and you're, you're, you're tapped in, you know, things even in the physical realm. And like you said, in the train here that we're being bombarded with electromagnetic frequencies, like you become more resilient. If you're resilient in your mind, your body will follow too, right? Yes, we will adapt and we will evolve. It's not always ideal.
00:06:19
Speaker
but maybe nothing is, it's a creative process. And sometimes you have to have challenges in order to learn and grow. But as a fundamental principle of maintaining your body as a temple and maintaining a strength and a constitution that will carry you through whatever challenges the environment throws your way. And I think this is our birthright as human beings. We've been able to do that in a way that no other living creature on this planet has.
00:06:49
Speaker
And so we've been elevated to a certain level. And what I'm saying is, let's not stop here. Let's keep going. And yes, we are going to have to deal with challenges that are a product of our high technology. But let's evolve with it symbiotically.
00:07:07
Speaker
let's use it as a tool for further growth and not let it take total control over the human endeavor.
Navigating Conflicting Information and Community Support
00:07:16
Speaker
And so it takes that balance and that nuanced approach, I think, to live in today's society and have a degree of health and have a degree of optimism for where things are going. Well put. Yeah.
00:07:33
Speaker
Yeah, and it can be confusing too. Like you said, like when you were going through your health challenges in your earlier years there, you know,
00:07:40
Speaker
you may turn to vegan, a lot of people turn to veganism, a lot of people turn to vegetarianism or supplements or even pharmaceuticals, who knows what will take over people's mind, right? Because it's just, we're in the age of information, you have everything at the tip of your fingers constantly, right? Navigating that is quite a challenge. And so what advice would you give to somebody getting into the health field and seeing all of this information that's conflicting and it's just so hard to navigate?
00:08:11
Speaker
yet. And it's hard to maybe communicate with people from the generation coming up in front of me because I have a completely different background. I learned a lot through book learning and just spending hours and hours in the library as well as just direct experience living out in the community and
00:08:32
Speaker
working in the everyday world. So there's a lot of just experience that you need to have in life to be able to have that perspective. And I think a lot of the younger generation isn't quite getting that full spectrum of experience. So it's much harder to relate some of these lessons. And at the same time, when I was doing my research digitally,
00:08:54
Speaker
back in the early 2000s, it was the wild, wild west. For better or worse, there wasn't the degree of censorship that there is today. And so you had access to unfettered information. It was unfiltered and there was huge amounts of it, but if you had a discerning mind, you could kind of
00:09:15
Speaker
Get the Shise from the Shinola and you can distill lessons, learn from various different disciplines in a way that is more and more difficult in today's social media society. And so I was going on old online forums, you know, dietary forums where
00:09:34
Speaker
expertise people would come to discuss talk shop with each other and so people with very focused interest you could meet with in these old chat forums and it's somewhat different on the social media with the endless threads because these chat forums you could develop rapport with the individuals and actually have a more direct connection and so I was in contact with these people over in Europe
00:09:59
Speaker
the Philippines, Australia, all over the world, like in early 2009 and 10 when I was starting my transition. And they had lots and lots of personal experience and research that I could use to guide my own path and to make my own decisions on. And when I had struggles, I had people I could rely on for advice, like a community. And
00:10:23
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That seems to have evaporated for me personally since maybe 2015 or so. A lot of our groups just disbanded and the global crisis emerged and all this division that we see now makes my endeavor pretty difficult the last few years. For me to continue on doing what I'm doing, I've had to do it basically in secret and on my own.
00:10:47
Speaker
and trying to reach out where I can trying to find others and so I've been able to do that and there's other people out there like our friend Wes that you spoke with and I think he's the one who gave you my contact so yes there he did yeah so I still keep in contact with a lot of people and I'm still learning but advice to people who are just finding this and it's
00:11:12
Speaker
I don't want to be that person. That's it. I didn't ever want the responsibility because other people's health is very individual. And you have to take a lot of time and a lot of patience and go through a lot of information before you can even begin to advise other people. And so my advice is to learn and to understand your own needs and develop your own instinctive capacities.
00:11:41
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taking experimental approaches can help. And so I'm not dogmatic. A lot of people can thrive on many different things. And so, you know, first of all, if you're having problems with food and health, you know, then you're not medically frail to where it's something that might put you in risk. You could do a pretty good long-term fast, you know, three to five days and a water fast, you know, don't try to drink good spring water.
00:12:09
Speaker
and incorporate other aspects of life practices, good sunshine, fresh air, healthy levels of activity, interpersonal connections, like all these basic principles I think are a good place for you to start with.
Personal Responsibility in Health and Food Sourcing
00:12:24
Speaker
If there's certain aspects in your life that you're not happy with, just take those aspects one by one and look and see how you improve those incrementally.
00:12:34
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and day to day and a source matters like where you get your food. It's not only what you eat, it's
00:12:42
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the quality and the purity of what you eat and the combinations of foods that you eat. And so experiment and be more open-minded. There are so many people that are so closed and they could never think of themselves as somebody who identifies as this or that. And don't even think about the labels or the identities, just something new and then see if it works for you. And sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. And you'll learn from the times that it doesn't.
00:13:11
Speaker
if you're open and if you're in tune. But getting rid of all the interfering factors, and there's a lot of interference going on, you know, whether it's fluoride in the water, electromagnetic frequencies, trace levels of heavy metals, basic depletion of the essential minerals,
00:13:32
Speaker
the soil through the strip mining process that is a modern industrial agriculture. So there are all these different levels of interference that prevent you from seeing with clarity and prevent you from being able to chart your path to a better health, no matter where you are, no matter where the starting point is. And other people, a lot of people in this society are inundated. And I can relate to that because I was at one time too, and I didn't realize what it was.
00:14:03
Speaker
That's the scary part. When you start to wake up to it, you can get freaked out and you can start taking drastic steps that might not be in the right direction. So that's where I wanna help people as well, maybe to not have to do the same things that I did that led me to make a lot more mistakes than I should have. And so it's a process of discovery and I wanna be able to
00:14:30
Speaker
help guide people on that after years and years of my own struggle and be able to teach others to find their way. Amazing. Yeah. It's like, uh, it's about being honest with yourself and learning from yourself, right? Like you are your primary healthcare provider, right? You got to take the little responsibility for your own health. And yeah, I like that you say that you're not dogmatic because, um,
00:14:59
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You know, a lot of people try different things and they all, they see results and some people try the same things and they feel worse. So yeah, that was very well put. Connecting to that intuition and, you know, getting back to nature.
00:15:17
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seems fundamental, uh, when you're learning about this stuff and, you know, could you speak a little bit more to that to, you know, connect into nature and connect into your intuition to, you know, because you have all the answers within, right? And it's about kind of tapping in with, with, with what's real and what the truth within you. Yeah. The development of these higher instincts that go well beyond that of the lower animal kingdom is something that human beings
00:15:47
Speaker
we're born with, it's innate. And I think that at some level, it becomes dissipated in modern societies, and it becomes actually almost taboo, you know, to be connected to such a deep level. So there's different levels of nerve connection that go beyond the five senses. And so we have, you know, extra sensory perceptions, we have
00:16:12
Speaker
something called memory, the projection of time and space, all these different abilities that we have are quite remarkable and the inter ability to connect and read other people. But that's also part of the conditioning process of people in modern society is to limit that because people who have such developed powers of intuition and knowledge and sensory perception are
00:16:40
Speaker
sometimes troublemakers in the modern hierarchical societies because they don't do well with domestication. And so what's happened is in order for humanity to be able to live in big cities have these huge national
00:16:55
Speaker
entities where millions and millions of people have to be basically on the same level in order to coexist. We've had to sacrifice a lot of our higher sensory perceptions that were necessary for survival in a more tribal world where
00:17:13
Speaker
we had to live and survive in much harsher environments. And so as the environments become softer and as the need for homogeny between disparate populations becomes greater, I think that individual intelligence, individual intuition, the ability to chart your own path in life becomes more and more diminished. And so
00:17:40
Speaker
And that connection with nature, that connection with the umbilical cord of the Earth that gives us that information and that guides us becomes diminished because we no longer are reliant on that flow of information. We're reliant on this flow of information, the screen world, the development of higher technologies and social control systems that feed us this technological cocoon, this womb that we live in that's
00:18:09
Speaker
completely cut off from that nature where we came from. And as adaptive beings, we cope with it. And it's quite remarkable what humans are capable of doing now.
00:18:21
Speaker
It's just, I believe that we should at least keep a few of us heirloom variety around, you know, to hold on to that, to keep these latent powers within the human species in case, just in case or for whatever reason they might be needed. And I think they're needed now more than they are ever.
00:18:40
Speaker
I think if enough of us were to reactivate these latent powers, these ability to perceive and project and to envision a path forward through whatever environment we find ourselves in, I think that it would be a great strength to all of us, and it will help us through whatever problems the future holds. But that connection with nature, you have to go back to it.
Critique of Modern Agriculture and Sustainable Practices
00:19:10
Speaker
I think it starts with diet and lifestyle. And so that's where I make my base, my stand. Like if you can source your own food, if you can have food that's raised naturally, if you can have clean, pure water and fresh, clean air and limit your exposure to all the interference mechanisms, then that life force will come alive in you naturally. You don't even have to force it. You just have to let it be, let it happen.
00:19:39
Speaker
and let it go through you. Yeah, I really like the way you put that. Yeah, and connecting to your food source was one of the things for me that really helped, like, even just, you know, it's so different going grocery shopping versus driving out to a farm and picking up your food, right? The experience is just, you know, it's incomparable, really. Although you're doing something that kind of the same, you're getting food, but just the experience and how you feel and
00:20:09
Speaker
you do connect and when you're talking to the farmer, you know, you could see the animals out and you could see the quality, you know, you could see the soil, you could see the grass growing and, you know, just connecting to that I find has really helped me. So I really like the way you put that. And, you know, I have a dream of, you know, like starting my own farm and raising my own animals and things like that too.
00:20:35
Speaker
Um, but you don't necessarily need to take that far if that's not what you're necessarily interested in. You know, like you get your animals and, and I have a great respect for how you harvest your own meat and use the entire animal. So maybe we can kind of shift the conversation and speak a little bit about more about that there.
00:20:53
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, and to the basic principles of nose to tail eating and knowing where your food comes from. I think, yeah, that's the source of this life energy. And I think it's a very good place to start with any discussion. So I eat my own fresh harvested raw meat. And so I have a ram here at a process a couple of weeks ago. So this is a,
00:21:21
Speaker
bits of liver. I got some good liver here. These are the fat trimmings, the call fat from the gut and the suet. I've spoken with many, many people who follow this way of life and I'm probably one of the few who eats as much animal fat as I do. I think it's probably 70, 80% of my caloric intake is raw animal fat.
00:21:49
Speaker
I know there's a lot of people who eat, you know, higher fat, but just what I do is just seems well above and beyond because I just eat it just pure fat, like gobs of it. But in order for me to do that, I have to basically harvest my own animals because of.
00:22:08
Speaker
Yeah, the fat at the store is questionable. I go out to these farms, it's pure pasture, like these animals haven't gotten the vaccine, they haven't gotten the dewormer drug. So a lot of the chemicals, a lot of the pollutants will store in the fats. And so if you're going to eat a fat based diet, and if you're going to eat something like I do, you know, eat two, three pounds of meat a day, you know, consistently, then you have to be sure of the purity or the
00:22:36
Speaker
whatever contamination is in the factory farmed animals or the animals that are raised in pure land, it's going to trikulate. It's going to get into you. And it's going to cause issues down the road long term. And so I go through the source and I go through great links. I mean, extreme links to find what I'm looking for. And it's very rare. It's a boutique market, not too many people.
00:23:02
Speaker
you know, raise large scale sheep operations that are of up to my quality. And especially I eat older animals. So I like to have mutton and not lamb because it gives more time to accumulate fat and nutrients on the frame. I think that mature animals just taste better. They have a richer meat. And so three, four year old mutton is what I'm looking for. And so I go up to the farms and I have to
00:23:31
Speaker
pick and choose, you go off a site, you go off the senses, you go off and after you've been to enough farms and enough places, I guess you get a general feel for what a well run farm looks like. So I have a lot of experience doing that because I've been doing that for the last 13 years.
00:23:52
Speaker
And I've seen the good and I've seen the bad and I've seen the ugly of it all. And there's a lot of well-intentioned people that try, but just the way that their land set up or just the way that general farming practices are these days and people follow a lot of just the standard practices, you know, vaccines, you know, at birth and then
00:24:14
Speaker
deworming regularly and if they have some type of cut or problem, they'd treat it with antibiotics just automatically. So there's a lot of just practices that people do now that I don't personally want to eat the animals that have been subjected to that. And sometimes it's because of economy. Most of it's because of economy. It's just not economically feasible for most places to raise animals in a way
00:24:45
Speaker
that I would appreciate because if you keep an animal on the land for three, four, five years old, that's just taking away from the land, taking away from the production capacity of the farm.
00:24:59
Speaker
And these people are in it for money because if they can't make money, they can't operate. And so the basic monetary system of food production is actually what drives things. And so this industrial agricultural complex is kind of at the root of it. And we can't produce food economically and at large scale
00:25:23
Speaker
and have the type of quality that our ancestors 200 years ago before any of this industrial agriculture was around could do.
00:25:32
Speaker
And on the flip side of that though, we don't have the famine cycles and we don't have a lot of the natural pestilence that they came across. So there's trade-offs. And what I'm saying is in order to feed the industrial societies, they've ramped up production and they've really tried to squeeze every ounce of life out of every square mile of farmland, but it's coming at consequences. And I think that we need to begin to remedy that. And I think we can.
00:26:00
Speaker
with our knowledge today and with our degree of technology, I think we can remediate a lot of those damages done through agricultural pollution and we can bring back the land and I think that we can rehabilitate the land and farmers can incorporate
00:26:16
Speaker
more integrative practices, if not full holistic organic permaculture, they can have some type of in between. And so there's room for improvement, no matter what the scale of the operation is. And so I'd like to work with farmers and encourage other people starting out to go in that direction, because I think that's where the future of sustainable, healthy food comes from.
00:26:46
Speaker
Yeah, like there's no incentive at all for this quality of food. But like when I talk to the farmers, you know, they tell me about how most farmers can't even afford to seed their fields. And so you rely on a government grant for that, at least this how it kind of works in Canada or my province at least.
00:27:07
Speaker
rely on the government grant but when you get the government grant it comes with the seed but you need to amend the soil with fertilizers and you have to put this specific amount of fertilizer on and you have to put this specific amount of pesticide on and if you don't if you don't put this on your field you won't get the grant next year and you can't steal the field and obviously
00:27:27
Speaker
you're out your firm and now you have no job. And so there's absolutely no incentive, if anything, it's just the incentive to keep the big ag going. But it's different too. Like you mentioned 200 years ago, 99% of the population was produced in their own food.
00:27:45
Speaker
versus now you have, what is it, maybe 5% producing for the other 95%. So like, I like the way you put it that, you know, we have this system in place to support the society that we've created, right. And it's, you know, people in the cities don't really care about the quality of their food for the most part, right. You obviously have your outliers, but yeah, I, uh,
00:28:09
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that's always the drift that I get from farmers is that, you know, I have a farmer that produces high quality stuff that would be up to my standard. And I'm not sure about your standard, yours is pretty high, but I feel like it's similar, right? It's like, like, I don't like the vaccines that you don't, you can't find that. You can't find no vaccines, dewormers, whatever, but he doesn't even sell his stuff at all because, you know, he produced enough from his family and he supports a group of people that he heals and
00:28:39
Speaker
Um, like he told me if i'm gonna sell ground beef i'm gonna sell it at 25 bucks a pound and who's gonna buy that like if Like he does it as his retirement. He worked his whole life And he's built up his wealth and then he retired on his farm fairly young but you know He loses money every year farming that doing it, you know, the biodynamic and and proper organic you know, so it's just there's no incentive at all and and that kind of ties into why I want to produce my own food is because you know
00:29:08
Speaker
you can really control the quality at that point. So I'm wondering, you ever think about that raising your own animals or?
00:29:15
Speaker
Yeah, but the economics of it aren't feasible. And so yeah, and not only that, it's very difficult to find the type of pristine land, like the land that hasn't been over farmed and overused. And a lot of that's just not available. Or if it is, it's so far out that it's not economically feasible to just move out there to homestead, you'd have to basically be the doomsday prepper type to go
00:29:43
Speaker
to these remote locations to raise the really premium pristine food on land that's never been touched by industry. And so I, as a man of industry, a very industrious man, I work as an electrician.
00:29:58
Speaker
And so I can make 10 times as much money staying in the city and then buying $25 a pound beef if I need to. But see that that's where economics are flipped up. It is completely insane that for school children, the school lunch program will allocate $1
00:30:20
Speaker
per meal, per child. And every year, there's some well-to-do Congress people that are like, can we get a nickel increase? Can we get a dime increase? And they're like, no, we can't afford it. We need billions of dollars to build bombs to go kill people over there. Our kids don't need an extra buck 50 so that they can have organic vegetables and meat that doesn't have antibiotics and chemicals in it. And this is the absurdity that I face every day.
00:30:49
Speaker
with having small children. And it just eats me up inside that the stuff, and it's been tested now. They have independent tests on the school food program and the prison food and the government food and the hospital foods. The glyphosate is in everything. It's in everything. What the hell? Why aren't we starting here at the base level of human health with what goes into the children that are now diseased at a higher level than they've ever been
00:31:18
Speaker
and since we've been keeping track. And this is subterfuge, complete subterfuge. They don't address the issue. And instead we have regimes of health management that spend trillions of dollars on the ass end of the problem. And if you just invest a little bit more in sustainable agriculture, maybe turning some of the Midwest into free range operations where you can have tens of thousands of cattle
00:31:47
Speaker
raised organically without any destruction to the land. Much in the same way the old buffalo herds would crisscross the Midwest, you could have open swaths of land, you could have the Army Corps of Engineers develop these mega ranges, and you could raise organic free-range cattle at scale.
Microbes, Disease, and Environmental Factors
00:32:09
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For a fraction of the cost that they're spending on health care for these sick individuals that are eating the subsidized food,
00:32:18
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And I've been aware of the subsidized food racket for a long time. My grandmother lived in South Dakota and they were paying farmers back in the sixties and seventies to grow bunches, a bunch of corn, nothing else. The kids in these sparse communities, no other farm would grow anything else so that they were malnourished. They were eating cornmeal, mush and oatmeal and places like the Midwest and Appalachia and a lot of poor
00:32:48
Speaker
America were eating gruel because the farms were subsidized for growing grain and nothing else. And then when the grain became so
00:33:00
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They had such an overstock of it and they couldn't afford to get it to market. My grandmother told me they were dumping truckloads of corn just on the side of the road because they already got paid from the government for it to grow it, but they didn't have enough money to take it to market. And it was just cheaper for them to dump it on the side of the road. And this is, this is the industrial food matrix at work.
00:33:27
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And if you look at Google Maps, if you look at the industrial mapping of a lot of the big agricultural estates, it's just we're strip mining the soil for corn and soybean and this making fuel from corn. It's just insane levels of mismanagement. And where's the green movement on this? Where's these greenies that are actually, oh yeah, they're eating their processed soy and the processed corn and they're,
00:33:57
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Well, they're too concerned with carbon dioxide, so. I know. And the carbon cycle is just, it is the part of life that we exhale and then the plants breathe in and that more carbon in the atmosphere leads to more organic growth of life and a more sustainable ecosystem.
00:34:17
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And so the carbon, the way that they disconnect, you know, the people who care about the environment to actual environmental problems, right? Because the environmentalists don't care about regenerative farming. They don't care about it. They just care about carbon dioxide and getting, you know, and I can appreciate that, you know,
00:34:38
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I think cars and planes, the real problem again is that we're being disconnected from is that they spray heavy metals. Heavy metals come out of exhaust. It's not the carbon dioxide. That's the problem in my opinion.
00:34:52
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Yeah, the rubber off the tire. Exactly. They said that's going into the streams and there's these new additives and a lot of the synthetics that are actually causing disruption in the aquatic life and they probably cause disruption in human life too. So it's really not the CO2, it's the petrochemicals and the additives and then it's the metals.
00:35:14
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Yeah, the metal pollution that is just not talked about and what it is is there's so many of these environmentalists that my heart goes out to because their heart is in the right place and they've been deceived. They've been misled and then they've been
00:35:30
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used as a weapon against people who are trying to do real sustainable environmental activism and so what they're used as a scapegoat to just look at these wacky extinction rebellion types that are doing these extreme protests and blocking the roads and then they they distract from people like you and me saying no the real
00:35:53
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way to get environmental change is to start with your body to start with the human environment where you live around the clothes you put on your skin the products that you use if you start there then you'll have a strong base of operations to go out further from that and so I don't know it's just a there's so many paradoxes and the environmental movement that
00:36:19
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I love the environmental people. I actually have a lot of good friends that are a part of it that actually truly believe that carbon is bad and that a lot of the propaganda points, you know, they're good people at heart. And so I don't disparage. I mean, we laugh about the absurdity, but you can't disparage. You just try to reach out to them.
00:36:42
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Yeah, well, that's the thing that people with big hearts get taken advantage of all the time, right? It's like... More so, yeah. People care about health and they don't even realize that microbes aren't the cause of disease, right? It's kind of the same notion again and again. You care about the environment and they focus you in on the wrong piece of the puzzle to
00:37:08
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Obviously, because there's agendas at play here, right? There's incentive in the higher ups, of course. We don't have to get into that. That's fairly obvious if you follow the money.
00:37:18
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Yeah, you know, it's just disconnected us from true purpose and meaning and nature in itself, right? Because when the bison were here and, you know, before the colonizers came over, millions and millions of bison, you know, well, one, they weren't vaccinated and dewormed. And, you know, I'm sure they were the healthiest animal you could have ever laid your eyes on. But, you know,
00:37:41
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there was also no carbon problem or they may say, oh, well, we couldn't measure it back then. But you know, it's like, it's like, there's no reason we can't kind of mimic that way of, you know, and I don't even want to reduce it to farming, but way of raising animals, right? And letting nature raise the animals, right? The human in the, in the farm,
00:38:05
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is there to try and support the natural processes of allowing nature to raise the animals, right? So that's kind of how I look at it. Yeah, the old school way of raising cattle on big
00:38:19
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expansions of ranch land, hiring a few cowboys, basically just to guide and protect the herd. Very minimal invasiveness to the environment, very low footprint, as they say. And then the ranchers and the farmers, the cowboys, they get all the profit off of that. And then they have smaller processors at the time where they could distribute it. And then
00:38:46
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But now with everything being so industrialized, every single aspect of the process has to be maximized profit. And so in order to do that, they squeeze the ranchers and they squeeze the farmers and the cowboys and they basically manage the land to the point where it's unaffordable for people to produce that quality of natural food. It's done.
00:39:12
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It almost seems like it's done intentionally. I just don't see why they don't have federal grants and subsidies for people who are raising cattle the way that people did 200 years ago, while at the same time, they're growing moon corn, like all over the world. It has to be deliberate. I can't see it being just by accident.
00:39:40
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But into that, yeah, we're talking more about, what were we talking about? Yeah, just germ theory. I mean, we could jump over into a lot of the other misconceptions about wife and where sickness disease comes from. Yeah, definitely. And like, I think a big part of it is the way, just the way the food is produced, right? And like you said, all of the, what's the word you use, but all the factors that tie in
00:40:10
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to reducing the quality of the food. Like you say, there's no minerals in the soil and no, right? So, and yeah, we could certainly get into the germ theory and things like that. Like we've talked about it a little bit on the channel here before and, you know, but at the end of the day, it always, it just comes down to proper nourishment and lowering your toxic environment, right? Lowering the toxins in your environment.
00:40:41
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Yeah, I mean, if you want to say anything on that, absolutely, please. Yeah, well, the strip mining of the soil, what happens is when they cut hay, cut hay, even grass fed, you know, beef out operations, a lot of them run off of silage and hay. And so the animals don't really have the direct connection to the land.
00:41:00
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or if they do it's just seasonal and so that I think can limit the quality because what happens is is when they cut land off a lot of the essential minerals the selenium the iodine the calcium phosphorus magnesium gets taken away from the land and what's left is the heavier metals like cadmium and lead and aluminum and so a lot of these other metals get up taken in higher levels and what's happening now is I think
00:41:27
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large portions of the populations are inundated with low level metal toxicity and the regulators and all their infinite wisdom have just obfuscated.
00:41:40
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testing, they just won't test for it. And so they've had these basic thresholds for lead, you know, going on for the last hundred years saying like, well, we're actually lower than we were when they were putting lead in the gas and lead in the paint, but it's still ubiquitous. And so maybe we're not as high as we used to be in some things, but there's other things as well that they don't even measure for, like cadmium is a real big one.
00:42:04
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Like cadmiums have taken it from the soil from soil that's been mismanaged and a lot of the vegetables, you know, green leafy vegetables and herbal products and stuff like that are high in cadmium and then that can have a detrimental effect on the body and that medical tests don't really
00:42:20
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test for it. You can have a pair analysis or you can have deep tissue spectral analysis, bone analysis, but they don't do that. They don't offer that, the medical testing, when they're looking for why people have cancers and why people have just completely wrecked immune systems and mental fog. They don't look there, but I think that's a good place to start.
00:42:43
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And I'm not saying everybody has to be scanned and analyzed, but you can just maybe take a little extra effort to find food that you're more convinced has a less load of industrial pollutants. Like don't get your food from an area that's next to a strip mine or next to a big industrial plant or next to a big Monsanto field. I mean, there's common sense things you can do to limit your exposure.
00:43:12
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And so, and then why do people succumb to sickness? If people are exposed to these negative elements of industrialization at the same time they're depleted, maybe that's the real cause of a number of these diseases and conditions that they attribute to disease pathology and infections and viruses and all these other things that they say are the culprit.
00:43:40
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and i think that they're not they're symptomatic and so that's where we get into the terrain versus germ theory and uh are you familiar with the pleomorphism absolutely yeah yeah we talked about in episode three and four a little bit yeah we went over Antoine Bichon's work and Gunther Enderlein and a little bit of Gaston Naysan so yeah i love the pleomorphic cycle honestly i think it's a viable theory for
00:44:07
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improved microbes. It's and a lot of the stuff I was reading back then it's been so many years since I've and I can't find it anymore like a lot of the smaller in-depth articles just have disappeared but the pleomorphism as I first read about it from some of these forum sites was more in tune with Agenus von der Plannet's theory of pathogens and how like
00:44:33
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They're seated within us. These organisms and these groups are part of a biofilm, part of a symbiosis that we are exposed to and we give and take. And they're in us. They're embedded into our tissues and our gut and our cells and even into our DNA through the viral process. And what causes them to change form and to activate and to cause these so-called overgrowths
00:45:01
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It's environmental, right? It has to be environmental because everybody can test positive botulism for salmonella, for E. coli, all these things. And then all these other viral things they call viruses, they're embedded into us and they can be measured in some scientific way. But the fact is that they don't cause anybody any harm in and of themselves only when there's an imbalance. Do certain
00:45:30
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pathogenic organisms activate and they overgrow or they call it an overgrowth and that's where this number as well. I think that when people are inundated
00:45:41
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with biological waste or sugars they can't metabolize or excess to cook proteins, then their systems of elimination get bogged down. And so they get inundated with this toxic backup. And so what happens? Well, the yeast organisms activate and they enzymatically can break this stuff down. Now it's not a clean process. There's a lot of waste product, a lot of
00:46:08
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these enzymes like botulism, you know, where if you get botulism, yeah, watery diarrhea, you know, inch of your life could die even. But that's part of the cleansing process. You're cleansing your body of sick and diseased tissue. And that is the process that you have to go through in order to cleanse and to purify.
00:46:29
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And so these organisms are part of that purification process. They're not alien entities that are here just plague us for no apparent reason. And just like being struck by the gods, smited with the plague, it doesn't happen that way. There are always environmental factors. And if you're wise enough and if you're aware enough, you can see you shouldn't drink your own cess water. You shouldn't smelt.
00:46:59
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these big iron furnaces and have heavy metal runoff into your water, like in the iron age. And while some people had the plagues back then, I don't know if you heard about like, yeah, the ice man they found, they found like he was like heavy metal toxic. Like this ice man they found about, uh, 5,000 from 5,000 years ago, he had a copper axe.
00:47:24
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And he had like worms. He had rheumatism. He was 40 years old and he was a, you know, actually died from an arrow wound. He was actually attacked. There's a lot of other hazards back then, other than just smelting bad ore.
00:47:39
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But the fact is that they were already engaged in the industrial process. When the plagues of the past happened, when the Aztec were wiped out, they were into all types of metallurgy and alchemy and using unnatural substances. And so we can't always know the source of the ancient plagues of antiquity, but we can have a good inclination that they probably weren't eating holistic and organic and they probably weren't
00:48:08
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minimizing the effects of their fascination
Viruses, Immune System, and Medical Interventions
00:48:12
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with metal smelting so they had a lot of runoff and a lot of diseased environment and they're drinking their sess water and that's where a lot of the cholera they finally found that yeah it came from the sess water that they were drinking but then they still blamed the organism this is where this is where they went wrong
00:48:32
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by saying, well, there's these cholera in this putrid cesspool that people are drinking out of, but maybe there's also the biological metabolite toxins of thousands and thousands of people that are just
00:48:46
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living on top of each other in these cities that don't have adequate sewage. So those people are probably inundated with all types of stuff. But it's so much easier to say, oh yeah, but look at all these little organisms, and that must be the problem. And oh yeah, when these people drink this water, they proliferate with this organism.
00:49:07
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But you can isolate the organism, put it in some clean, deep water, aquifer, spring water, and you could probably drink it by the gallon, just as many of the organisms they say it takes to inoculate somebody with the disease, and nothing happens. And so that's the whole point. They're using germs as a scapegoat to distract from the disease environments and the malnutrition and the toxicity that causes sickness.
00:49:36
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Yeah, so and then when six you on using the top they can continue using their toxic, you know, petrochemicals and heavy metals and all that stuff, right? But, you know, we've been talking a lot about on my Instagram there, we've been talking about like sexually transmitted diseases. And, you know, one fella was telling me about how he thinks that herpes is caused by, you know, the herpes simplex virus. And, you know,
00:50:01
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You can do a quick Google search and even Google says that 67% of the population tests positive on any given day of the week for herpes simplex virus, but not everyone has warts, genital ulcers and cold sores and all that stuff.
00:50:21
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a lot of the times microbes are present and they're not causing the said diseases, right? So there's a million ways to go about dismantling it, right? Like it's like, there's, it's, it's all comes down to the environment. Why does 12% of the population have the symptoms of herpes and you know, 67% of them have the virus, right? There's an environmental factor that's there causing the microbes or whatever to
00:50:47
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be virulent to mobilize toxins and they're biotransforming toxins. So microbes may produce these toxins, but at the end of the day, they only produce the toxins because they're consuming toxins. We've just disconnected in that way too.
00:51:09
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It's terrible that the toxin that toxins of misnomer and there's there's a taxonomy of pathology to worry. Okay molds yeast bacteria viruses like there's all each one of these kingdoms.
00:51:24
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you know, has a biological function and they produce the precursors to neurotransmitters, these enzymatic compounds that are necessary to break down some of the dead and diseased tissue from our body inside out, you know, their internal exfoliation through cataboluses. And so we need to go through these processes
00:51:46
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Now, on a day-to-day level, if you're more or less in homeostasis and your body's level of toxicity is within the manageable realm, then day-to-day small amounts of bacteria, yeast, and the gut microbiome
00:52:03
Speaker
can operate incrementally and lock step with the other biological elimination processes. So you may get a little queasy every now and then. You might have like a day where you just have a headache or just don't feel good. And then that's it. That's absolutely it. But then you hit a certain threshold where you go beyond what your body's natural capacity and what the average flora in your gut can handle, then there are other systems.
00:52:33
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that are activated. And we can talk about the virome, what these things they call viruses are. I think that they're latent mercenaries.
00:52:43
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of Gaia that go in and eliminate like sometimes they have to go in hardcore but they go in like Sherman through Georgia just scorched earth okay you're you're so you're causing problems you've got to go through the process and so you get BAM and then the viral replication sends out the the exosomes which
00:53:05
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facilitate the cytokine storm and the antigen release that target other cells for destruction because they aren't part of the program. They have deviated. They've become intoxicated. They don't replicate properly.
00:53:23
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And so these cells, if they don't replicate function properly, have to be eliminated. And viruses are part of that process of elimination. And so you have coronaviruses of the stomach that cleanse the stomach lining and then they're genetically engineered now.
00:53:41
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affect other parts of the body. And that's a different story. But it's not a weapon. It's not a disease in the natural state. In the natural state, it's part of the body's innate immune system. It's a symbiosis with us and other organisms. And very well, we could pass these exosomal information packets back and forth between organisms and the environment just as messaging signals and to coordinate
00:54:10
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whole species of immune responses so that we can maintain genetic viability and homogeneity between diverging populations. And so it's a very, very nuanced process. And it's something that
00:54:27
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the modern view of virology just misses by a mile. Like they don't want to go into the actual purpose of why every single cell and every single animal species has viral processes. And maybe, just maybe it's an essential process. And if you try to interfere with it, try to suppress it, try to
00:54:49
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label it evil and just say we'd be better off without it, you're doing a detriment to life. You're doing a detriment to our evolution. Because if these cells aren't allowed to go through viral mutation, viral processes that eliminate
00:55:05
Speaker
the dysfunctional cells from the body, then what happens? Well, I think what happens is what we're seeing happening, an explosion in cancer, an explosion in degenerative diseases and autoimmune conditions and arthritis. This is the consequences of a hundred years of tinkering around with forces they do not understand with virology and inoculations.
00:55:31
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And they have these Pyrrhic victories where they say, we eliminated this such and such disease. Oh, yeah, you eliminated polio. Well, why are more people crippled now than ever with neurological disorders? What's this thing called cerebral palsy? What's this thing called developmental disorders that are just through the freaking roof now? OK, yes, maybe it's not called polio anymore, but it's definitely a lot of sick and diseased people. And so don't fool yourself.
00:55:59
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They're just changing the names of the conditions and some of the symptoms might be different, but they still manifest. So you can suppress a symptom on a temporary basis, but you can't just
00:56:14
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eliminate the underlying cause. So that symptom will be suppressed and the underlying cause will lead to some other form of disease pathology because it has to manifest. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It's just a basic law. And so they don't understand those basic laws. They think they can violate those laws with magic potions and just all the way to the bank.
00:56:39
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and create this global health syndicate based upon the magic potions, but it's the wrong way. Yeah. And I'll stand on that and I'll speak it from the mountain top. Yeah. Well, it's like, you know, I, I kind of have a very similar view, you know, and we've reduced virology to it being that ready because it could be very useful to study to and understand these processes. I think I'm supporting them because, you know, viruses are made from the cell. They're not.
00:57:08
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exogenous either. And like you mentioned, there may be a communication aspect of it. I speculate that all the time. And, and even from, you know, people in proximity, I may be singling my family, but at the end of the day, my, if I have a, you know, whatever we call a virus go and, you know, extracellular vesicles signaling other people to, you know, detox or whatever it may be.
00:57:33
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If they don't need to detox, they're not going to either. So it's still, it's like, you know, and I think this is one of the reasons why there is a perceived contagion because often people who live in the same house have the same toxicities. So yeah, you know, we're all producing.
00:57:50
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you know, we all, we're all shedding with, we're all shedding, you know, viral particles, whatever you want to name them, like extracellular vesicles is what I usually just call them because they're just little vesicles made from the cell. But it's, it's, yeah, it's just, it all comes down to, you know, your internal environment. And if, you know, people share
00:58:11
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the same external environment while they're going to have similar symptoms and similar disease processes or healing pathways, so-called symptoms. I also like that you mentioned acute diseases leading to chronic diseases. I think the big problem is when you reduce the symptom, when you get rid of the fever and you get rid of
00:58:37
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inflammation and you get rid of the healing, the natural healing processes, the toxicities build up, right? And, and that's what I think leads to these chronic diseases. I think that's what you were getting at there, right? It's like, if you're not going to support your body when it's acutely trying to heal, like you said, you get that one day headache or the, you get a little fever or whatever it may be, you want to support your body in that because there's a reason
00:59:01
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that's happening. But if you suppress that for 100 years, you see the highest amount of chronic diseases. And, you know, we, yeah, we, we can get rid of symptoms all day. That's what the pharmaceutical companies do very well is they minimize symptoms, but that could be very problematic in healing. Yeah, information is a warning sign. It's a signal. And a lot of these symptoms are signals and what happened traditionally in a
00:59:31
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ancient times, people would heat those signals and maybe they use methods that were more or less effective than today's methods. But I think today's methods are so focused on just alleviating the signal immediately without questioning, well, what does the signal signify? And so when you suppress the symptom, yeah, you lead to further and further problems down the line because you never uncover the underlying cause of the original signal.
00:59:58
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And so it perpetuates this cycle and it's generational. These systems of immune development have to go from generation to generation in order for us as an organism, as a species to adapt and to evolve continually without having to come up against a wall. So what's happening is
01:00:24
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they've separated us from the breast. They began formula feeding 100 years ago. And so a lot of people don't even get the essential maternal antibodies. And then each generation now for the last three generations is being
01:00:39
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fed a completely different concoction of chemicals and so-called foodstuffs. And so it is causing chromosomal chaos, absolute chaos within our genetic structures. And these viruses and these other types of symptomatic conditions are actually our body trying to mutate, trying to adapt, trying
01:01:02
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to evolve solutions to this ever cascade of new problems. I think that we're doing a very poor job of it through the medical system because instead of accepting that for what it is and adding supportive nutrition and alternative healing protocols, they're going further into the intoxication.
01:01:24
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I don't know, like I'm not the one to say that what's right and what's wrong because maybe this storm that we're entering into now is preparing us for the merger with machine and technology for the adaptation to higher and higher levels of environmental toxicity so that we could actually live in a cocoon and be shipped to some other galaxy one
Transhumanism vs. Natural Evolution
01:01:50
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day. I don't know, but I have a,
01:01:53
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abundance of caution and going down that road, saying like, yeah, we'll go down that road eventually, but let's do it on a more even keel. Let's not go head first into the transhuman thing just yet.
01:02:06
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develop a little bit, let's mature and let's have some type of a slow process where we or those of us who by volition want to go into those other places and live in cyberspace or wherever it is, they can transition into there and then we can stay back as the heirloom of don't put all your eggs in one basket humanity. And so that's my plan.
01:02:32
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And so like, yeah, we can have room on this world for different modalities of life. And I think that we need to have people that are more nature-based and more earth-centric. And I think that that would be very beneficial to hold on to and not just give up yet.
01:02:47
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The problem is, is these great machinations, these great systems of control and finance, they don't want alternatives like us because we make them look bad. Like, wow, absolutely bad. You're like, yeah, these people over here are growing their own food and feeling good and not having to be hooked up to machines and injected with stuff. It just doesn't look good for them trying to sell the other alternative. Yeah.
01:03:16
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I really liked the way you put that honestly, you know, because a lot of people like, you know, they're not going to want to move away from their comfort, you know, especially generationally getting more comfortable all the time. Right. So it's like, you know, a lot of people want to stay in the convenience and the comfort and the, you know, a lot of people love the transhumanist agenda. They want to be on the forefront of it. They want to be, they want to be the test dummies and
01:03:45
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You know, so I just, I like the way you put that it would be nice. I always said this would be nice if, you know, we could truly live and let live, you know, if, if people could just respect always a life and, you know, because you get a lot of pushback for eating raw meat. I'm sure you've had your fair share of that, right? It's like, who cares? Like, let's just, you know, move on. You're not force feeding other people to eat raw meat around you, you know, like, so it's, it's, uh, yeah, we could just live and let live, but
01:04:15
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It does, it makes them look bad, right? Because it's, you know, people live in a simple life, getting back to nature and living peacefully and, um, they're very happy and healthy. And, you know, that definitely doesn't bode well for the modern lifestyle where you may, you may be overrun by pleasure constantly and, you know, scrolling and, you know, quick modalities of getting pleasure, but you know, you're also inundated by disease. So.
01:04:43
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But yeah, it's all up. Yeah. And what made us human was that struggle and it was not being comfortable. And so what I'm afraid now is like we lose our incentive. And so what they're doing now is creating these artificial incentives and these all artificial modalities of life, like a carrot, you know, in a stick where
01:05:10
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If you don't follow through, if you don't become accepted into that, then you are outcast. And so they're creating different classes. And yeah, why can't we just live and let live? Why can't we have a dynamic between those of us who want to go that route and others who want to stay back and explore a more traditional humanity? And I advocate for that. And I think there's plenty of room and plenty of time for people to
01:05:40
Speaker
live and let live and just enjoy what time we have. Because yeah, we're only here for so brief a time. And don't worry so much about, you know, if the world's gonna explode in 2050. Let's do what we can today. And so what happens then happens then and let them live with it. Today is for us. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, well, I mean, on that note,
01:06:08
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It might seem like a great time to wrap it up. I think if you have any final words or anything you'd like to share, now's the time to do it. No. I mean, I would share a bite of this with anybody, but it doesn't transmit. We don't have the replication technology yet to replicate this. I'm waiting for the day a 3D printer can make some of this.
01:06:37
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and then I might change my mind. Yeah, we might have to test the nutritional qualities of that though and see if they can 3D print live microbes as well. If they can get the full spectrum. Yeah. And one day they can, okay. Star Trek, yeah, 2024, maybe that's being optimistic. But until then, you know, please just let me have some of the natural stuff and
01:07:06
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Don't begrudge me too much or don't try to tax it towards unaffordable and just basic. But yeah, it's absolutely great. It's wonderful. It's delicious. It might be an acquired taste. So not everybody can just jump right in, but don't be afraid to. I guess that's the message. Like you don't have to be afraid as long as you know, it comes from a clean place. See it for yourself. See the animals in the field. Do they look happy? Do they look healthy?
01:07:35
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See the farmer, does he look like a caring person that actually takes care of their animals? So there's just basic common sense stuff. And yeah, I can ramble on for forever. And there's a lot of stuff that I'd like to talk about that I'm not going to talk about, but maybe at a later date, we could revisit. Yeah, we should do this again. This has been great. All right. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, how can the listener help support you or reach you? And, uh, I don't know if you're,
01:08:04
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into that social media stuff, so. Right now I'm not. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for some things to go down in life and see what happens. And so in the meantime, I'm just trying to keep a low profile. But I mean, I think this, we might get a few hundred views here and maybe a couple more thousand. And so whoever's part of
01:08:29
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this way of life and is interested and truly interested in reaching out to me. I'm open to it.
Conclusion and Contact Information
01:08:36
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My name's Derek Nance. You can probably look me up on Facebook. Or yeah, just leave it at that. I don't want to give too much out there because I can get inundated. I got a lot on my plate. But trust me, I'm working for the cause. And if anybody's truly interested in speaking or doing more interviews, I'd be open to that as well. Great. Well, we need more people like you, Derek.
01:09:02
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Yeah, and good luck up in Canada. So you've been doing this for how long? I just started. This is like episode six here now. So, but doing the like eating raw foods and you know, maybe a year, two years now, I've been kind of dabbling in it for two years and getting a little more into it as I go to it. I'd like to get into it more like, you know, and the way that you kind of process your animals and
01:09:29
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have access to every part of the animal. I can't get my hands on that unless, you know, you're butchering your own animal. Like I can't get gallbladder and pancreas and I can't get it. You just can't. I've talked to so many farmers. They just won't sell it or, um, and obviously you can't get it at the store. It's so regulated up here, man. I got to drive an hour and a half to go buy raw milk. So it's like, it's a little bit of a grind up here in Canada with the regulations, but yeah, it's about building that. Yeah.
01:09:59
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For all Kentucky's problems, we don't like regulation as much. There's a lot of people here that just community-based. We have some food buyers clubs and a lot of people that just sell the raw milk, even though it's still technically illegal. Kentucky's one of the few states it's still illegal, technically illegal to buy raw milk, which is just
01:10:22
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It's laughable. But the good thing is, is the absurdity is counterbalanced by their incompetence and their lack of care. So they don't really care. They have these laws. They don't really enforce them. If people peer to peer, like I process my own animals and there's no real regulations here that prohibit that. So, you know, it's, it's kind of good. I like, I like the community I live in and I like the people, even though, you know, I,
01:10:49
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go toe to toe with the government sometimes. They, at least, they know how to leave alone, probably more so than where you are. Yeah, I'd say, yeah, they love to overstep here. But yeah, that well, you got to work within your community and, you know, just even with your government, right, you got to kind of
01:11:13
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You got to kind of know the people, man. You got to work with them, because if you're just going to be an asshole and you're going to rub them the wrong way, well, they'll find a way to screw you over, too. So there's a little bit of balance. I mean, that's why I wear the white rose. It's a symbol of peace and truth. And so you do have to reach out. And there are good ones in there that are trying to do what's right. And you got to let them know you support them. And so you do have to reach out the olive branch.
01:11:43
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and say, look, there's a better way here. Let's work together on this. So that's what I'm doing, reaching out where I can and speaking to who I can. So it's got a lot of good things happening in life. Still learning, still researching, and maybe one day, you know, this will hit a certain level of awareness that it'll take off and a lot more people will be able to have access to this type of information. Yeah, hopefully.
01:12:10
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That's great. Well, Derek, thanks for coming on. I really appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. It's been fun. Yeah. Great. And I want to thank you listener. Uh, of course you guys should know that this is not medical advice. It's for general informational purposes only, of course. Uh, but we should all remember that we are all responsible, sovereign beings, capable of thinking, criticizing and understanding anything.
01:12:33
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We, the people in the greater forces are together, self healers, self-governable, self-teachers, and so much more. Please reach out. If you have any questions, comments, criticisms, I'll have to chat. You can reach me beyond.terrain on Instagram. I really appreciate you guys listening today and taking the time. Derek's been a great guest. We probably could have taken this a thousand different ways and have a thousand different discussions, but I thought it went really well today. So if you enjoyed the podcast, found it informative anyway,
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