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Bye, Bye, Bye with RJ Aguiar
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We’re back with RJ Aguiar, part two! We chatted about queer stand-up comedy (and butthurt straight guys), we debuted a new segment called “Bye Bye!” where we rant about things that bother us, I asked RJ about his hottest sexual experiences both on and off camera, and then we have a difficult time saying goodbye…
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RJ’s website: www.rjaguiar.com
RJ’s “Don’t Tell My Mother” storytelling performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlCanxAnCrw
The Emperor and the Endless Palace (book): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/146145975-the-emperor-and-the-endless-palace
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Transcript
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everybody!
Introduction and Episode Goals
00:00:14
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Welcome back to Two Bye Guys, Bye One Bye Guy, Season 8. We're back with Part 2 of my interview with RJ Aguirre. Part 1 was last week. If you like this new weekly format, we'll see how it goes. Not much else to say today, except I hope you enjoy the second half of our chat. I had a lot of fun chatting with RJ. One thing, I was going to save part of this interview for Patreon only. I said that last time.
00:00:41
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And the Patreon subscribers had access to it early for a week, but because I didn't plan this episode as a two-parter, it ended up being a little short when I divided it into two. So as a bonus, I'm giving you everything, even the bonus content I say on here. It's for Patreon. But today, it's for everybody. If there is stuff you would like on Patreon that I'm not already doing, please let me know. I would like to make it worth your while to help support the podcast so you get some little behind-the-scenes stuff. ah So let me know what you're interested in seeing there.
Upcoming Interviews Teaser
00:01:12
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You always get early access and full video episodes, plus some bonus clips here and there, and I'll try to have bonus content from each episode moving forward as well. I just wasn't sure I was going to split these episodes into two, which might happen a couple more times this season because I can't keep my conversations to under an hour. They always end up going longer, but I like the episodes to be a little shorter. Anyway, here is the rest of my interview with RJ, and stay tuned next week. We got some awesome interviews coming up. Lewis Oakley, Mark Cusack from Not Defining, my friends Vera and Leroy, who hosted Bisexual Podcast from Amsterdam. It's in Dutch. I was on it in English, but they mostly speak in Dutch. Anyway, they're awesome. I'm excited to have them on. So stay tuned for this season, and now enjoy Two Bye Guys, Bye One Bye Guy with a bi stepfather, RJ Aguirre.
RJ's Comedy Journey and Themes
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Okay, so the stand-up. So I've started doing stand-up this year, very focused on bi stuff and poly stuff and it's been wonderful. I'm enjoying it a lot. I have no idea exactly why I'm doing it or where it's going, but it's really fun and it's fun to get feedback and perform and write and like actually make something quickly and not have to wait years to see it through.
00:02:36
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What's your background with you lift the stand up? I know you've done it before and you are thinking about getting back into it. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, it's just sucks that like I was I was starting to really find my ah find my sea legs right before the pandemic. And then, you know, the all all that all that went. so But it was no, it was doing like the storytelling shows first, like doing Don't Tell My Mother, which is which I was, you know, sharing the stage with are already with stand up comedians.
00:03:02
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um it It was it was such a blast and especially that first performance where I was specifically telling a queer story for a mostly straight audience. It was it was just such ah an unexpected light bulb moment for me that it was just like, oh, yeah, I really want to do this ah some more yeah because it was it was a way, you know, so many so many, you know, especially straight audiences in the in the standard space love like the shock laugh. Right. And you'll see like the fucking more
00:03:34
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Yeah, whereas like, but now I'm, you know, talking about bottoming for the first trying to bottom for the first time and it going wrong in spectacular fashion and and, you know, having the the audience just like get that just get that same reaction. um But with something that was that was queer, um it was just really cool because it was one of the few times that I could lead with queerness and it wasn't something I had to apologize for it was something I could just come on the stage and be like, you know, I don't want to spoil the story if you want to look at look at it, but as you don't tell my mother RJ Agar cock blocked. And it is a, it is a true story. It is a true story. um We'll put it
Comedy, Privilege, and Power Dynamics
00:04:16
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in the show notes. But it is it's addicting, isn't it to get those laughs and get a reaction and like know that the audiences cares about what you're saying?
00:04:24
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Well, and I want part of me also really wants to start disproving all of these butt hurt straight guys. They're like, you can't make fun of anybody anymore. You can't like see when it comes to to comedy. And it's like, like,
00:04:40
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First of all, shut up. um But also let us know. i I do agree that stand-up comedy needs to be a space where we can talk about things that we don't normally talk about. But yeah the difference here being that like I use my sense of humor as a means of coping with some really dark shit.
00:05:02
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And so that's where I want to be able to really like destigmatize certain things by being able to just like talk about them and be like, oh you know, we're all adults here. So, you know, hey, let's, ah you know, i ah guys can make rape jokes. Let me tell you about the frustration of having a hot rapist because God damn it, like, you know,
00:05:27
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What I objected to was the timing and not necessarily the act, motherfucker. God damn it. you know like It's being able to really you know break down those break down some of those beers. Obviously, I have to workshop that material. let's not That's definitely not it.
00:05:42
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There's something That's the goal the goal is to be able to really like Okay, y'all like shock y'all of shock value. Let's no no no like let let it let's Bring some shit out into the open that you're too afraid to confront because I bet I do think that is That's if that's the ethos of your comedy is you know forcing people to confront thing specifically if you're coming at it from a a space of being marginalized that is how you get away with it if you're undermining the power dynamic if you're undermining right
00:06:19
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The Joe shouldn't be on the marginalized thing. it yeah If the punchline is about the writer or the predator, if you know you know you know if you're making fun of of the person who's in power who's doing the oppressing, that has always been the purpose of comedy. And so like yeah the reason you're not hurt and you can't make fun of anybody is because you're in the position of privilege, motherfucker. So you know maybe maybe it's time for you to step aside and to give more people with different perspectives a chance.
00:06:51
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Agree. If you go to a lot of open mics in Los Angeles, as I have been doing for the last few months, you meet a lot of butthurt straight guys who think they can't joke about stuff. and that But I think what you said makes sense. And also another difference is that like I think a lot of comedians, like make they think of a topic and they try to make a joke about that topic. And they skip step one, which is you actually need to tell You actually have to have an insight that's personal, that you come up with, that's real, that's authentic to you. Like what's hard, for example, if bisexuality is my topic, what's hard for me about that? Or what's scary? Or what yeah what bugs me about being bi? And then yeah make it real. You have to actually say something that's true to you. And then the joke comes after that.
00:07:43
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Exactly, it's i was my myam i'm like it's always like being trapped in the end of an episode of Scooby-Doo, where they're always trying to go like, aha! You know, it's like, oh, so if you're really bi, have you also dated women? What was the last time you had sex with a woman? And they just they're just looking for a reason to go, aha! He was really just a gay guy the entire time! And I'm like, ah, if it wasn't for you male and female kids.
00:08:11
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Yes, indeed. Us buyers are like, are each trapped in Scooby Doo all the time. Yeah, and then sometimes you just want to rank the Seven Dwarfs by dick size, and that's just as bad. I feel like Dopey is number one, probably, I don't know. Look at the ears, look at the ears. I don't know why I do that.
00:08:29
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He's got, the first of all, look at the way Snow White looks at him because she has not, you know, until Prince Charming, she has not seen another man her size. And also, like, Dopey is hung like Barack Obama. Look at the ears. right Smallest, grumpy, obviously. Come on. Like, it's. Yes, exactly. No, that makes perfect sense. like It goes. I think it's like it's grumpy doc. Then it goes. Let's see. ah Sneezy. This is the important content that we need on this podcast, ranking the dwarves by name. Sorry. Can I say that? Okay. Five, six, seven. Keep going, keep going. This dwarf. No, I think that was all. Well, oh God. Yeah. That's true because they're not, yeah, the live action, they're not dwarfs anymore. They're not. What are they? Seven? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
00:09:25
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Well, okay, we're canceled now.
Straight Men's Reactions to Queer Comedy
00:09:30
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A lot of these straight guys will come up to me after an open mic and like, they're always into what I talk about, about like cruising and like, come, getting covered in cum and like sucking dick. They always think it's shocking and funny. And then sometimes they'll come up to me after and they'll be like, like Dude, you're bi, and you're poly, and your wife is trans. like Your story's so unique. You're going to get booked everywhere. like They're jealous. And I'm just like, obviously, why do you think I started sucking dick in the first place? like Yeah, I'm career focused. That's why this is why I did it, to to get ahead and stand up. It was the long day. 10 years ago, when I first sucked a dick, I was like, someday I'm going to go to open mics and kill.
00:10:16
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This is going to do wonders for my stand-up career. Yeah, that's exactly why I do it. Yeah, that was why I did it. So to those straight guys, I just think if they're feeling left behind and out of the culture, they should try sucking a dick. It's important work.
00:10:32
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100%. And if, and if they need help, I'm available so help to help. Well, I'll take it one step further, because I'm always well, the way to straight men is through straight women. And and I'm like, my whole thing is like, ladies, you want your dating, sex life,
00:10:51
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you know, et cetera, to improve tenfold overnight. Do not let a man inside of you until he has been fucked. Do not, like, like there is, first of all, yeah yeah nothing will, nothing will disabuse someone, a man of his machismo bullshit quite like getting pee-stimmed so hard that his voice goes up an octave. Okay. Like that is no better cure for toxic masculinity. There is no better education on stroke game, rhythm, like all of that. Then having to take a dick yourself and going for the first time, Oh my God, slow down. It's not a rate. Oh, that's what my high school girlfriend was talking about. Yeah.
00:11:34
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Right. I know you want to go fast, but you need to ease into it. I like a peace, peace stemmed. I never heard that abbreviation is that's a good one. Oh yeah. Is that, does that work? That comes up often enough that you came up with the abbreviation. I wish, I wish I came up with that. No. Peace stemming. I'm going to put that on my, uh, list of likes on Sniffy is peace stem. Is that how I say that? Okay. Okay.
00:12:04
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Well, no, not unless Sniffy's is paying you. There we go. No free promo. No free promo. We should be institutionalized. Even when I talk about Sniffy's on here, they really should be advertising or sponsoring this episode or something. And I don't even have an account. That's the weird part. You don't on Sniffy's life. I don't. I don't. like I don't. How do you see a map full of dicks then? Where do you go when you want to see all the dicks in your neighborhood?
00:12:32
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uh my dms oh not on the map yeah but but you can see them visually like the sniffies app is just a because you can put dick and now like you can put and nsfw pics on there because it's a website not an app so the map is just a sea of dicks and assholes kind of like a trump rally ah ah Look at you, workshopping material. Yeah, I was trying that one out. It's not my strongest, but I like it. It's like, eat it, don't be it. Eat ass, don't be an ass. Eat pussy, don't be a pussy. Eat dick, don't be a dick. I like it.
00:13:14
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And more people should eat ass. I mean, I feel like a lot of people do eat pussy and dick, and like, we're good there, but more people should be eating ass, don't you think? um ah it's what's my favorite It's one of my favorite things. It's literally, it is one of my favorite things. To do it or take, have it done. Yes. Both. Both. Yes. yeah Yes, and that's a bad question for a bisexual person. Which do you like better? like Come on, you should know better.
00:13:45
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50-50, right? You equally enjoy them both? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, can you assign a percentage on your... Jesus. I think we've completely lost the plot. We've completely lost the plot. We are running out of time, unfortunately, and we have so much to talk about. We're going to have to have you back to
Queer Trends Rant Segment
00:14:07
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finish the eating ass discussion.
00:14:17
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so let's try something maybe we'll edit it out maybe we won't but i'm obsessed with floss culturistas they do a segment called i don't think so honey uh we can't really just steal their segment names so i don't know what we should even call it this is the first time we're trying it nevermind it's taken two um keep it yes Bye bye bye bye babe I don't know i don't know if that works something no that's it we're gonna say bye bye to something we're gonna say bye Okay, lovely. So I don't know if you have anything in your yeah head, but I'd love to give you a minute to rant about whatever it is that is bothering you these days that you'd like to say bye-bye to. All right, are we ready? Yeah, I'm starting a timer whenever you are ready. And this is RJ's bye-bye, baby. Your time starts
00:15:15
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Okay, let's time it's time to say bye-bye to this demure trend, alright? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that the creator of it can afford to, you know, finance her transition now, love that for her, but let's talk about how the demure trend is rooted in respectability politics. Let's talk about how being demure and being cutesy and being mindful is catering to the tastes of straight people, is being is catering to heteronormativity. It is discouraging people from let letting their freak flag fly, which is what brat summer was supposed to be about. What the fuck happened to that? No, forget Demure.
00:15:50
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I want to rub like my queerness in this in the face of every hetero person. i love I love the word faggot. I love just using it right in front of them to watch. their just I can hear the sound of their assholes clenching. I love going to my regular hetero ass gym in a crop top and just watching people's jaws hit the floor. Fuck being demure.
00:16:15
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Fuck being cutesy. I want to be as loud and obnoxious as possible. I want to be like and like i want my queerness i want to wear my queerness on my sleeve at all times.
00:16:27
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time up amazing time's up Beautiful. Lovely. Wow. What what a, what a bye-bye baby. The very first bye-bye baby on but on two bad guys. yes Are you kidding? So, okay. So wait, this is like ah a specific creator started this Demure trend. I missed that. What is that about? Tell me, a she briefly tell me about that. Cause I agree with you, but I didn't know that.
00:16:54
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Oh yeah, and no, no, no. so So it was started with a TikTok where she's just like, let's talk about how, I don't have my chuches out. I only show a little bit of cleavage, all right? I dress for the job the way I dress for the interview. Varied Zamir, very mindful, very cutesy. um Which again, I support her. I support her journey. And actually some of her other posts have actually been really funny because she's like, see how I only disappear for three days because of depression? Varied Zamir, very mindful. I'm like, okay, that's funny.
00:17:22
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Um, but like the, it it just, it was one of those things that just caught on like wildfire. And it was, it was just, it was as it caught on as quickly as brat summer, but, and and but was like the opposite ethos. And I'm like, I'm sorry. No, I'm so we're, we're, I can be demure when it's cold outside and I have to bundle up and then we can, then we can be, you know, coy about stuff. Like, but, but it was, um,
00:17:48
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yeah It was one of those things that now everybody is like trying to like rinse and repeat because it's such an easy trend. This is, it represents a lot of ways, in a lot of ways also the TikToktification of social media, which in many ways is kind of the final form of the transition from social being the operative word in social media to media being the operative word. Because now you know you look at the you look at TikTok and you know but you look or actually Look at social media before. like you You were incentivized to be much more of an active participant in the the social media that you consumed. you know you want with You commented, you participated more, and that was also how you found new content because when you followed someone, you didn't just see you know who you know what they were posting. You saw who they were liking, who they were commenting on, like what they were engaging with. and so Social traffic actually funneled through social networks.
00:18:42
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in those days, whereas now you are turned into a completely passive observer. You don't have to think at all beyond just, do I swipe my thumb or not? Do I maybe double tap? Leave a comment? What is this? you know Oh my God, you know so much work. Unless like something really pisses me off or triggers me enough that then I have to start you know posting in all caps in the comments. like it really it It completely takes away um it It takes away your a lot of your agency as a viewer and the and it just puts all the power into the algorithm and also just incentivizes the most just easy rinse and repeat model for people to then just kind of regurgitate and pretend that's culture. um And so it's it's not like, I'm a child of the internet, I love a good meme, but the the purpose of a meme back in the,
00:19:38
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Back in the day, God, I sound old. was to It was like poetry. It was like poetry in that you wanted to distill ah you wanted to distill something in the most succinct, snackable way possible, right? Whereas so it's now it is just about like, okay, fill fill in the blank here. you know Blank, very demure, very mindful. you know and it just And it's just about like the repetition of it.
00:20:04
Speaker
and Yeah, like like there's it's too it's gone too far in that direction, as far as I'm concerned. Interesting. I agree. I think we're all too demure, even though I didn't know about this meme or trend. but i And to each his own, if you want to be demure and wear a lot of clothing, fine. But you know we should also not stigmatize to wear less of it, especially at the gym. That's a good place to wear less clothing. or on a on a podcast. you know some Some people used to wear a collared shirt for their podcast in season one, and now they might want to wear a tank top, and that's okay, and that's to be encouraged. It is. Yeah, yeah, i mean ah yeah. Well, hey, there's a quote, somewhat ah modesty empowers some, promiscuity empowers others, it's not up to you to decide.
00:20:52
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so You know, yeah, I, I, of course, I'm doing my internet hot take for, for, for the purposes of the segment, but like, um, i love that edie ham love but this is good one. Good. Thank you. Good job starting us off. Uh, okay. I have, I have one that I would like to rant on
Support for Porn Performers
00:21:12
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for a minute. do God, can I time you? Let's do this. Yeah, please. you and I'm going to pull up my stopwatch.
00:21:22
Speaker
All right. Robert Brooks Cohen. What is it that you are saying bye, bye, bye to this week? Your time starts now. I would like to say goodbye to people who never, ever pay for porn. No. Bye-bye. No more not paying for porn. I was just hanging out with someone this weekend, a straight man, who told me that he is never in his life paying for porn. Ever. No. Bye-bye. Go away. No. Pay for some porn.
00:21:57
Speaker
so many people do this and i was part of this for some time in my life before i came out and stuff they never pay for any of their porn and you don't have to pay for everything you watch maybe you do a mix maybe you try out some new things for free on porn up and whatever but don't put time like porn is not a big part of your life you love porn we all love porn you watch a lot of it it does not grow on trees performers need to survive If you're only paying by watching the ad-supported content, you're only supporting the big studios, support some porn performers, buy some OnlyFans, follow RJ on OnlyFans. Fuck! Right there at the buzzer.
00:22:34
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and and sad yeah it's done and
00:22:41
Speaker
Thank you, thank you. the A lot of these people, they don't know what they're missing either because it seems like a lot is available for free, but there's stuff that you might like that you don't know what you're missing that's being created by an individual. and it and and and You should get an alt Twitter and you should find that and then you know you'll find where the only fans are.
00:23:06
Speaker
but But it's always like a getting off on the preview and not paying for it. Bye-bye. Hey. I don't think so. No, I like bye-bye. like bye by that's This is brilliant. it's brilliants Especially because it's two bye guys. so i Bye-bye. We're going bye-bye. That's it. Bye-bye, man. No, it's still right. but But it's like I i remember being the... I mean, when you're young, right when you're a teenager, it's you know sneaking up your... you know, sneak in your little previews or whatever. Yeah. I agree. i I can totally see when you're broke and young being, you know, okay, just watching the free previews, getting off on the free reviews. Lord knows I can come in 60 seconds because of a free preview. But yeah, it it is the more, especially nowadays. You're right. You want, you want your fair trade organic, you know, homemade, ah homemade stuff. Vote for your dollars. to Vote with your dollars. Exactly.
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah, your money is your speech and your so your support. And and like you don't have to like give them tons of money. You can subscribe for $10 for a little while and see see what you like and sample different people out. Netflix and and Hulu and Disney are all jacking up their prices. So right now, like my subscription price is less than all of them, all right? All I'm saying. Exactly. If you're paying for a cable bundle and not for a little OnlyFans,
00:24:28
Speaker
your priorities need to adjust a lot. Do you do you want do you want your hard earned dollars to buy another yacht for fucking David Zaslov or fucking Reed Hastings?
Bisexual-Friendly Events
00:24:38
Speaker
Fuck no. like Let's help some indie creators pay their fucking rent. Exactly.
00:24:45
Speaker
Exactly. So good. Thank that. This has been bye bye. The new segment on two bye guys, where we rant about stuff. I like it. Beautiful.
00:25:07
Speaker
Okay, I want to ask you a few rapid-fire questions for our Patreon subscribers, just a few, and then we'll wrap it up. And then we'll come back because we had other stuff to talk about and we didn't talk about it. I know. That was a two-part explanation. Maybe I'll throw in one of the topics we didn't get into here. Okay.
00:25:30
Speaker
Feel free to not answer this, but this is this is our special bonus content. What's your hottest sexual experience recently or ever, either in your personal life or or since you've been performing? Oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God. God, that's hard. I mean, they're all so fucking hot. i Yeah. i mean ah to I there well, I will say a recent sex party I went to ah with my partner was was quite the blast. It's been um it's been one of the one of the highlights of the summer although although as far as collabs go, um I'd say my favorite one thus far was a four way we did with Persian Prince and with Kyle Michaels, who are both
00:26:23
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incredible behind the scenes. Like they're so lovely. It's such nice guys. And it's and it's so funny how I'm like, oh, now that I know you're a nice guy, I want to suck the soul out of your dick. Yeah, great. Nice guy. de this is disaster to suck It's the best. It's the best.
00:26:42
Speaker
They're so appreciative. I mean, I say they, like it's not me. I'm so appreciative when it happens. It's also hard. ah It's true. Yeah. It's also hard because I'm like, there's so many ones coming up that I'm really looking forward to too. Are there any like fantasies you've always had that you have not yet lived out that you would like to someday?
00:27:02
Speaker
I have still not been part of an MMF threesome. This is bullshit. This is fucking bullshit. I'm frozen. My screen isn't frozen. My face is.
00:27:16
Speaker
No, I'm like, how long is it gonna take until we remedy this situation? There's especially, okay, I'm really gonna put this out into the universe now. Christian and Cassie, I think are the names. Christian and Cassie are these two creators who I love to watch, because they're specifically devoted towards double vaginal penetration. And every time I see one of those video previews, I'm like, I wanna do it so bad. I wanna do that, I wanna do that, I wanna do that.
00:27:47
Speaker
yeah hot hot well okay a a year ago i was in your boat i was this was something i was always interested in and never ever had a chance are you gonna focus on me right now i will say that i've had a few opportunities this past year that have been amazing a number of those opportunities happened at bff this year you need to come to bff next year have you heard of bff I have i fuck heard.
00:28:15
Speaker
i It's funny because I didn't even know what BFF was. I've just heard it in passing and it was one of those where I'm like, I don't know what it is and I'm too afraid to ask at this point. but so Well, I can get you an invite. And I was actually invited by a listener of this podcast. And I went to my first BFF in June, Palm Springs, 250 bisexual people, maybe like 60, 40 men and women, and a lot of couples. And a lot of the couples are looking for the third man. Like it's the rare place where a couple isn't looking for a woman to be the third. They're looking for a man to be their third, or two or three men to be their fourth and fifth.
00:28:56
Speaker
like That happened at once. Look to me, there was a husband who won husband and wife and then three other guys that she wanted to ah enjoy her body while the husband was sort of watching and participating. That was fun.
00:29:12
Speaker
I'm really glad the camera's angled up right now. Like, holy shit, that sounds amazing. One of the hottest things that happened there was the she was sucking my dick while the other two guys both ate her out at the same time. So they were kind of making out with each other while eating her pussy. And so I was watching that while getting my dick by her and it was very hot.
00:29:37
Speaker
Yeah, you need to you need to you need to start recording this, man. like I don't know. like like I was like, this would make a lot of money if we were filming this. Not you putting me to shame, because I you know i'm i have i've yet to shoot any of my collabs with women yet, ah but that is that is coming. And we do have, I mean, luckily there is a there is a collab coming where we are gonna work with a ah you know a female creator and my partner's gonna join in the mix. and that's gonna Like that, I'm really, really, really, really looking forward to. That's gonna be fun.
00:30:09
Speaker
I was going to ask how by your stuff is currently or where you want to take it. So that's that's cool that you're going to move toward that hopefully. And maybe you'll get to do the, this is the thing of like living out your fantasies because you're making content. It's a good excuse to create an MMF threesome.
00:30:31
Speaker
It is the perfect excuse, but like there's so many, ah what else? Oh, Durden is another creator who I know is also like married to a woman and he does a lot of like gay content too, but he also has ah ah a woman partner who he also does content with and I'm like, I want, I want, yeah I want, I want a joint, please. I love how that's a common complaint that I've heard heard from bi people too. have Like I hate it when, you know, ah guy girl couples are always trying to recruit me and I'm like,
00:30:57
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um that happens to you because that doesn't happen yeah complaining about like my dream fantasy i am okay being objectified a little bit if you know people are people doing it are hot that was fine Being subjectified or objectified. It's Michelle Wolf one. Yeah. Where she's like, yeah, you want to guarantee you'll never get me to just be hot. And I'm just like, Ooh, that's not true. But it is not true, but it is funny.
00:31:33
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Yeah, no. Well, tell us the truth, though, RJ. Are you really just doing Onlyfans so that you can have an MFF threesome finally? Is that the whole game here? You found me. you found you Shit. I figured it out. I would have gone up to two if it wasn't for you meddling podcast hosts. Yeah, you found me.
00:31:53
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I mean, it is like there is there's it's another it's also an excuse for me to um to get more involved in the king space, too. um You know, thanks. It is somewhere where I've played. and And thankfully, I got to share my first like really kinky scene with someone who I have, um you know, me and my partner have have done a lot of exploring and playing with behind the scenes first. ah Haskell, who's a very, very good boy. um And yeah, I get it. And like,
00:32:21
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very, very good. i'm Yeah, like on Twitter for a while. Yeah, like, like, it is the stuff he is able to to withstand is just mind boggling to me. But at the same time, you know, it's It's fun being able to like have a hard day and to have someone at the end of it just asked for you to beat the shit out of them. And I'm like, all right, let's do it. Daddy's got some pent-up rage. Let's do this. yeah um That is a funny way to describe a porn performer. like that there They can put it up with the taking a ton of shit or whatever you said. He's astonished. I'm astonished at like just what. and and i'
00:33:04
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I've seen him take even more like extreme shit than even I'm willing to to inflict on him. He's so impressive in so many ways.
00:33:15
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Wow. Cool. I love it. There's so much more we could talk about. We could do another episode. I think that we should another time and we'll get into it more. But we're at our time limit. I'm trying to keep this thing manageable these days. Yeah, I gotcha. Did you not have to read 10 books last season? I read 10 books to do 10 episodes.
00:33:39
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It was great, but it was too much work.
Humor in Podcast Preparation
00:33:42
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I said, now we're going to do porn. Now I just watch porn and then get on the interview. It's much easier for me. See how we're only, see, we don't have to read as many books. See how we're keeping it to time. Very demure, very mindful, very cutesy.
00:33:58
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Yes. I'm just being authentic and following my authenticity and like reading is hard and masturbating is not hard. And so I choose to masturbate instead of read and so sue me. It's you because I am reading a book where that is letting me do both at the same time. So anyways, we can talk about that. You're writing a book. We can start, we can tell us that and then we'll end. I'm reading a book. yeah I say I'm reading because i'm reading a book.
00:34:26
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Oh, okay. And it's like, hi. And also it's reading. Yeah. The emperor and the endless ballast written by a friend of mine. Um, but it's also quite good. Um, so far at least, um, but it's, it's called a, it's, it's a gay smut novel that takes place in three different time periods. Um, and yeah, and it's just so far, it's been a really, really cool read.
00:34:48
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Lovely. Cool. Well, pick it up. Check the show notes to find out all about RJ's stuff. I would love to have you back because there's so much more we could talk about. I had a list of stuff. We got to like three of those topics of the list. You know me. You know, you know how I roll. Okay.
00:35:06
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I do. And we didn't even get to everything about about the porn. So, you know, we'll have to get back to it. Oh, okay. Here's my last question. You said, you said you would never do certain things and then like porn and then now you're doing it. So what, I would like to ask you now, what what is something you would never do so that next time I can ask you about doing it. doing it Oh, God, yeah, like, ah i i'm I've never ever, I'm never ever gonna make six figures a month pedaling this month forever. I'm never gonna make it into what we want to do that too i'm never going to make it into a a six or seven figure tax bracket doing this. That's never gonna happen. I will never, that's never gonna, no, never, ever, ever.
00:35:51
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Great. I mean, you don't really want that. That's like too much. Yeah. i get that that's That's off the table for you. Totally makes sense. And hopefully next time I'll ask you how that's going. Buying property could never, you know. Yeah, no. if but no one We don't want to buy property. nobody and equity we i can never I can never do that. That's never going to happen.
00:36:19
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Lovely, lovely. Well, it's been great talking to you. Uh, let's hang out in person. Let's do this again. Uh, and thanks RJ. I think we are for being on back on to buy guys, buy one, buy guy with one by stepfather.
00:36:36
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Jesus. we're ah We're stone cold sober doing this too. This is the fun part of like, ama can you imagine? Were you sober for this? Because I didn't tell you, should be you should be really high and drunk like I am for all my, I i forgot to send you that instruction. I apologize. yeah I was also drunk when I sent the instructions for doing this podcast. So, okay, that's my bad. I i apologize that you were sober for this.
00:37:06
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ah god if it is okay where we go yeah i'm kidding i'm kidding im ah totally totally yeah kidding oh like um But by the way, we should talk about mushrooms next time because that's my new favorite drug and it feels connected to sexuality and exploration and everyone should do mushrooms. Okay, but next time.
00:37:26
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see this is no this is why like yeah like even if you want to bring in a rotating cast of recurring second guys I do I like I do think it could be good to just like forget interviewing people about shit like let's to you know let's shoot the shit about um yeah psychedelics like that's ah A rotating cast of second guys is like my sex life. I'm back into a woman and then I have a rotating cast of second guys. I feel like that's that's all that that has to be I and as far as relationship configurations are concerned like that is that does that's got to be pretty ideal in terms of like you know
00:38:04
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Honestly, that I think there's a lot of bi men married to women, most bi men are married to women, but they want to explore with other men, but they're more romantically attracted to women and the situation I'm in, I think is very desirable for a lot of people.
00:38:20
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not to touch my own horn. It's difficult to work out and it's not always easy. And there's a lot of, oh, yeah, considerations and negotiation. But I do like the where where we're at. It's not bad. It's yeah, I don't know. It's so funny, though. Maybe that just is it's speaking to my experience.
00:38:37
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in the sense of like, I do feel like couples who are of like a mixed gender identity are, you know, they face certain challenges, just due to having completely different frames of reference. um You know, in terms of how they they sort of navigate the world and different mindsets and different thought patterns and stuff like that. So yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Again, yeah, but whole other bunny trail Jesus Christ.
00:39:01
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oh there And that's what I'm doing my coaching on. I'm coaching a lot of these bi men who are married to women. We'll have to get into this next time. But I do think that more women should let their husbands have sex with other men. It would you should every usually strengthen that relationship. I want to write a book that's that's like, let your husbands fuck other guys, please. That's the title.
00:39:22
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No, do not do again. Do not let a man inside of you until he has been fucked. I am. I will die on this hill. I will fucking die on this hill because like this they the the way the song A Whole New World is about doing anal for the first time, number one. And the way you're the way.
00:39:44
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your mind expands the first time you do it successfully. the but You're just like, oh my god, I thought I was coming before. But now I'm coming the way she comes with my whole body. Yeah, it's a very different type of orgasm. I did not realize until it happened that you could feel that I yeah. Oh, okay. shimering split Yeah.
00:40:13
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Yeah. Don't you dare close your eyes. Hold your breath. It's better. Every turn is a surprise. Magic carpet ride. Yeah. there it it does this it's I have a whole i have ah i have like several bits I want to do about Disney. like Disney invented furries. That's a good one. That's a good one. Disney is-handedly responsible for creating furries. but the Oh, interesting. OK, I'm adding all this to the list for next time. you will You'll be back.
00:40:42
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okay women let your husbands have sex with other men especially have them be penetrated it will benefit you in the long run uh are we still are we still in the recording portion because i feel like no we're off the rails now we're off the record we got to be off the record i don't even know how to edit this i don't know what to do with it it's it's great but this is We're done. Okay, I've ended this podcast five times and now for the sixth and final time. Thank you so much for being here. RJ, we are. This has been two bye guys, bye one bye guy and one by stepfather. And I'll talk to you again soon, I hope. Bye bye. You better. Bye bye.
00:41:24
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