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Season 2- Episode 28- The Show Must Go On (Super Rugby Round 7)
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Yes we did get a recording in this week, so those favorite rugby dopes from America are here for you. Amidst all the chaos the world has spun into, we try to provide you some comfort with our pod this week, simply by being who we are. On this episode it's a special birthday message from a friend of ours. We talk about ways to solve that whole finishing the season issue (some decisions have been made since we recorded). We go through the bit of rugby we can from Super Rugby round 7. We are thankful for that. Then, (around 29:30) we get into some problem solving on how to put in the best team we currently can, for our fantasy Premiership team on The Rugby Magazine site. So, if you wanna hear us make fools of ourselves, more than normal, listen to that bit and have yourself a laugh. We look forward to working on content to bring to you guys as often as possible until the matches get back underway. Thanks so much for your listening, we'll still be here and hope you will join us.
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Transcript
Opening Banter and Beer Enthusiasm
00:00:20
Speaker
We're not really practicing what we preach here, but no
00:00:28
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my table we said that's not six feet long can't help it but we're essentially family so so if we if we get if we're one of us is going down we're both getting fucked out anyway so yes not it's not a new thing we always knew it in this way Jared yeah
00:00:45
Speaker
All right, so no beers for reasons that I'm not willing to go into right now So don't worry about it. Trust me. We're we're still we're still beer fans. Don't worry about it Yeah, and by the way that knowing that free Jack's IPA is very good. It is delicious. Yes Before we get too deep into this This shit show wait, that's not what it's not a
00:01:10
Speaker
We just started the shit show. Well, the shit show has not yet begun. Well, it's gonna be in a way it has begun But it has not yet begun Here we go. Wait rewind what rewind What George
Thanks and Friendly Rivalry
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Speaker
Thank you so much, George. Love you, buddy. Thanks to our friend George. Obviously a great guy. And when things get back on track here, we need to definitely make sure that we keep giving him our thoughts and make sure that we keep giving him our love.
00:02:10
Speaker
We appreciate you George. We also appreciate our friends at the rugby magazine They take care of us and they do and they do a great job of running a really good website. So They we have fun with that. That's for sure George tuned me the hell up this weekend I don't think I want either one of my matchups either
00:02:26
Speaker
Beat me by like 50 or so. No big deal. I need to play George. I think that's what I came down to. I need to play George. Well, yeah. And this is good. I'm glad George has finally won against us. It's been a long time coming. Probably. We've kind of let him know about it, I think, each time. Yeah, I kind of pointed that out.
00:02:47
Speaker
But I'm glad, you know, a rivalry where we're both sides win is fun. And it's obviously all it is more of a rivalry than not. And it's all in good fun. Yeah. Obviously, we wouldn't give him shit if we didn't like him. No, I mean, he does great work. It was an honor to be beating him to be undefeated against him. Yeah. For a little while. So but obviously all all good things come to an end. Yes. But not our friendship and not our our mutual respect and admiration and fantasy. Oh, and the borders.
00:03:14
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when the borders open up for both sides, maybe we can make that happen. Yeah, we'll have to have we'll have to figure out a way to have a beer with yours. Yeah, for sure. So we appreciate it.
COVID-19 Impact on Rugby
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Speaker
So let's go to let's just quickly run through some thoughts on each league. Obviously, COVID-19 has just caused havoc for a lot of things rugby amongst others. Six Nations, we're probably gonna finish in October. State Lobby. So this is how it goes. Prem.
00:03:41
Speaker
It's the ideas that are being floated are obviously getting rid of the summer and nationals. I think that's going to happen either way. Yeah. And then pushing the calendar back a little bit.
00:03:52
Speaker
That's a thought. Also the draws, like giving each team a draw. I don't love it, but it keeps everybody on the same level playing field. It lets us finish out the year on time, which is semi-important. It's not important, but it's semi-important. It is. But yeah, it depends on when we can resume normal life. Yeah, that's the other thing. We don't know. The world is on pause right now, including the rugby world. So we're kind of in a...
00:04:17
Speaker
wait and see mode for the next few weeks for 30 days, whatever everybody said, which hopefully it doesn't go beyond then. But in all likelihood, this is just, this is just the, the, the beginning. Um, it could be extended. No. And we, yeah, it's time to be a little bit prepared for that. Yep. For sure. It just, it's, it just sucks without having that this distraction. Yeah, I know. Right.
00:04:41
Speaker
It uh, it's definitely it's definitely sucks. But that's why we're here.
Creative Solutions for Sports Amidst Pandemic
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Speaker
We're trying to provide a distraction of something But my preference honestly for you know, the champions cup has its draw for the for the knockout stages I think there that can kind of go it depends on how long this lasts um But I see no reason why they can't just go ahead with their draw um for things like the premiership and even super rugby which is which is shutting down um
00:05:08
Speaker
the proposal that i've seen from for american sports specifically for basketball when it comes back is to have a march madness style tournament everybody didn't know there's everyone's in the playoffs and it's one and done go for it so you start yeah the the first uh the the number one seeds get a buy first round and then two plays 15 three plays 14 on all that stuff on and on and you uh you you have brackets i mean how amazing would that be i mean it's one thing when it's college basketball but in the nba
00:05:38
Speaker
Where you did the best players and yeah, some of the scrub teams are pretty shit But at the same time you still get you still get a chance. Yeah, all you have to do is win one game That's all you got to win and and you're through That that changes things and I think that that's the kind of thing that will will need to get through this is something fun like that and
00:05:57
Speaker
Yeah, I would like to import that to uh to the prem and to super rugby depending on the length of the layoff Yes, if we get past if we really get past when the season was supposed to be over I think that would be a good way good Six weeks way to be done with it, right? You're you know, you're in you're out you're done. Um, we can we can crown a champion for uh for 2019 to 2020 or just 2020 for super rugby, right? Um
00:06:23
Speaker
And and every I think that's the the satisfying way to go about doing it might be on the other hand We have to get creative either way on the other hand if you know, this goes on too long and the prem needs to just cancel What was your idea?
Premiership Champions: The Asterisk Debate
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Speaker
Cause they yeah, it was to give Exeter the title. Yeah, with an asterisk. Oh man. Yeah, I saw that. It was like, oh, imagine if they canceled the season right now and just said that the Exeter champions and gave an asterisk. I was like, justice right there. You assholes get the asterisk. That's your, that's your own fault. Frigging Tony Rowe. Um, so yeah, we'll see how that goes. Super rugby might be able to do like some sort of local Derby.
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Um
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um comp either to continue super rugby until we're beyond this or um, just in general as to keep the rugby going in some fashion and that actually might be a decent way to handle it knowing that Yeah, they need that the players or the people traveling especially I mean this was ultimately it feels like decided by new zealand Because as soon as they put that two-week quarantine period in for anybody traveling to new zealand that basically killed the super rugby season
00:07:34
Speaker
Because you can't travel that far in advance, the matches are scheduled, yada, yada. It was like almost simultaneous that those two things came out. It felt like from an American standpoint. But maybe the idea is that you say, look, we're going to crown a conference winner in each of the three conferences. And you play local derbies until you can move on.
00:07:59
Speaker
And then you suck it up and say, look, we're going to maybe like a some sort of round robin type thing where it's, you know, um, each of the three teams playing in some ways, you know, champions go to travel to Australia or something and they, they play there to, to determine the winner, split the, the, all the revenue, the revenue between, between every single team, all these teams. Yeah. And, and you work with it that way. Um, and that way everybody gets to, uh, you know, you still get an end of the season.
00:08:27
Speaker
Yeah. One thing I will say is an MLR is probably going to be okay because they don't have a lot in their way in terms of finishing the season for the most part. One thing I will say, I don't.
00:08:37
Speaker
I am not one that's going to go out and cancel my free Jack season tickets and expected refunds. Cause in this situation where the teams need the financial help right now, and yes, they have millionaires that back them, but there won't be millionaires for very long. No, if, you know, we continue, if, if they continue to dump money in and they're willing to dump money into a sport we love. So that's the other thing. Like I'm willing to give the guy a benefit of the doubt.
00:09:02
Speaker
Now if this is 10 years from now and the guys are jerked like Jerry Jones, that's a different story. I'll be begging for my money back. So for me, freejacks, you can keep my money. I want you guys to keep going. And the freejacks are actually hosting
00:09:17
Speaker
uh remote Coaching sessions. Yep for that for I I unfortunately couldn't call in the last two nights. Of course I had other things No, I just I didn't know about the first night and the second night. I'd rather I just kind of wanted to chill out Yeah, I don't know feeling um
00:09:33
Speaker
But it's getting to the point where it's like, OK, well, you know, but I like the idea of saying here's what we expect from coaches and players and let's let's go through it. I'm trying to work through similar ideas with our staff at our club level.
00:09:48
Speaker
I I just I like that that everybody seems to be handling this Well, most everybody seems to be handling this pretty well from a rugby standpoint, right? We still have several hardos Well, let's just play through it. Whatever we're going to be healthy. No, it's not about These are us. It's about the people that are really freaking small kids and elderly parents elderly parents are the big ones that are that seem to become too light because the kids seem to be able to
00:10:12
Speaker
for the most part seemed to be all fired off. So that's I think it's now down to elderly and those with shit immune systems.
Rugby Clubs' Community Focus
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So yeah, that's that's different thoughts there for
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Speaker
and they're all getting thrown around and meetings are happening right over Skype and Zoom and whatever. So hopefully a good solution comes out of this. Let's ramble down the table. There's one match I think we should pay a lot of attention to and then we can ramble down the table the rest of the way.
Match Highlights: Chiefs vs. Hurricanes
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Speaker
Uh, that'd be the opening first match here for our first Super Rugby this past weekend. Last match we'll see for a while. Um, the Chiefs and the Hurricanes and, uh, shame somebody lost this match because it was, um,
00:11:05
Speaker
It was a damn good match. It was a great match. Especially the ending, but I mean, all the way through. Yeah. I mean, everything outside the ref was fantastic. Yeah. Jekyll Piper is definitely an orator. He was just terrible. I don't know what he's watching. A lot of bad decisions. Whatever he's looking at is not what I'm seeing. And there was times I was critting my teeth both ways. I'm like, mm.
00:11:26
Speaker
Okay No, but okay. Yeah, I mean the the I thought the parinara try was a little much he's trying to tackle Stevenson Stevenson's much taller than him. There's no way the parinara tackles high While he's lowering his body height to make that tackle. That's that to me that was all on Stevenson. I
00:11:52
Speaker
But- Yeah, at least he tried to route. Right. And what was the other one? Yeah, yeah. I thought that Piranhaar was doing everything right. And ultimately what he ended up doing was high because Stevenson dropped his body height. And there was something else where- Geordi.
00:12:11
Speaker
Oh, Jordy Barrett's try. That was a try. What are you looking at? Just because Damien Mack has a finger on it doesn't mean it's signball possession or any of that shit. I don't know what rule. Mack had no possession of that ball. That was Jordy Barrett's try. Fucking idiot. Yeah.
00:12:27
Speaker
Your guy boss here wasn't on the on the field to the at the end I mean you're you can't tell me that in one of those 30 phases. He's not picking up He's not picking up either a turnover or a penalty right fucking No, yeah him him him having to come out really was was I I think what decided to match for the hurricanes
00:12:45
Speaker
It was a big one. Um, and that's no disrespect to bushy or you know, it's not he got hurt. It happens. Um, he had to come out. He got pained up. Yeah. Shit happens, man. When you, when you make as many turnovers as he does and you put yourself in position to get the shit kicked out of you. So you can only do that for so long before you have to come out. Yeah. I'm credit to both teams to go 30 phases, not have a fuck up. And I know again, the hurricanes weren't trying to overplay it, but it's really, really hard.
00:13:14
Speaker
Because the Chiefs penalty wasn't even like at the breakdown. It was just a silly no-arms tackle that, you know, it happens, but it wasn't. You're trying to go low and you can't really. It was no arms. It's just how it is. It sucks. But, you know, but up until then, both teams just do a really good job hanging up, hanging on in possession and not and also making their tackles and not get, you know, every every once in a while the Hurricanes look like they get like a couple of half meters and then and then they go backwards and then just, you know, it was a good back and forth for about twenty nine thirty phases until
00:13:43
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The penalty came, and Jordy Barrett had the Cajones to knock it over, and hey, I'm not sad about it. I can tell you that much right now. But this
Blues vs. Lions: Player Improvements
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could have easily been a draw. It would have been a worthy result. So Chiefs 24, Hurricanes 27, both teams look like they're in position to get into the knockout, assuming we can finish this sucker. Blues Lions, Blues 43, Lions 10.
00:14:09
Speaker
The big take-away for me was the two fly-halves that have stepped in since Bowden Baird hasn't been able to play, and that's Parafetta. And Terry Black, obviously Parafetta's playing fullback in this game, but still very good.
00:14:23
Speaker
Yeah, he played an excellent match at 15. And Otero Black has been, as you said, he's been extremely consistent. His service has been awesome. Speaking of service, Sam Nock, what a step up. Much better. I mean, this is, in a way, a bastardized version of Harry Randall versus Andy Uren.
00:14:43
Speaker
Except definitely bastardize. Yeah, because both of those are decent scrumhaves. Yeah, knock and ruru have just been god-awful For many seasons knock is somehow playing above his station You ride it until if the wheels fall off. Yeah, basically
00:15:00
Speaker
And they basically did that too. I don't remember Ruru coming into the match. I remember seeing it late in the match and Nock is still playing and supporting line breaks. And I was like, oh, there's a nine, still another 21. All right, 21 is Ruru? Leave him on the bench. Leave him there. Leave him there. I mean, it was somewhat surprising only because it was just a wash at that point.
00:15:27
Speaker
Yeah, I that that just goes to show how little confidence they have in Ruru. Yeah. And I share that lack of confidence. You think you're the one. One more guy will mention and we'll move on. Hoskins to two to given giving the blues options at eight, man, where Akira you want. I don't think you miss it. He missed one game maybe last year. Yeah. In a bit of a grueling season. Super rugby is not easy. Right. All the travel. Yeah. It's in some of the hot weather as well.
00:15:54
Speaker
And then after the world cup, it's no wonder he might get a little banged up. Yeah, so it's uh, so, you know give him Give statute to credit. He's given them a great option to Pivot from yoani when they need to yeah, but they can put them you know when they're both healthy and both fit I mean they can put them they could put them at six and six and eight if they want to yep And that would be a terrible idea. Yeah, it'd be horrible idea for their opponents. It would be
00:16:17
Speaker
It would be. So, Blues 43, Lions 10, and Blues are looking pretty snazzy on the top of that conference right there. Real strong. Yep. Give them a lot of credit. This was the laughing stock of this conference for a while. Let's go over to Australia.
00:16:34
Speaker
They were the trendsetters in the COVID-19 epidemic, so they've actually been in Australia for a few weeks now.
Crusaders' Dominance Despite Disruption
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Speaker
They play in Australia, they play through Crusaders, and the result is basically as if they had played them in Christchurch. It was not good. Crusaders are depowered, but Crusaders are still very good. They have a system that they can lay into very easily.
00:16:54
Speaker
It's hard to call a team depowered when they have flying in a coup thing. I get it right. Playing on a coup. Yeah. Seven recent George Bridge in their in their back three. Yeah. I and Braden Nener in there. Thirteen. Yeah. And Todd Christie and that back row is great. I have to say that.
00:17:11
Speaker
You know and I thought wetsie douglas would be the guy that really made it makes a difference It's been christian sanders that really make it go. I know have really played a sienna have really played in this game But christian sanders have made that back row go colin grace has been a great player. I see a black shirt in his future at some point. Yep Jeez, this is it's very good. Um, but on the somos. Um, darth april is gonna have a job after this season I don't care if he's playing for the somos or somebody else. He's gonna have a job
00:17:35
Speaker
Yeah, I mean somebody in South Africa is going to snatch him up. Uh-huh. Uh, bulls might be one, one team to think of. Right. They're not great right now. Lions, uh, maybe. Just a thought. Just a thought. Lions, I mean, the Lions do have a Springbok. Is there 10?
00:17:54
Speaker
But he's not a good springboat and it might actually be like i'm wondering if if it might be better to move yankees anyway out A little wider like what if you put it at 13 or something? I mean, he's not still not gonna tackle out there, but at least it won't Yeah, he's not gonna get ball kill you because he'll be scared of contact from a 10. Yeah
00:18:11
Speaker
that is true um so that there's that and then ben hein um scoring big that's a big thing for him because he's yes a rough rough go of things uh for his career so that's and score against the crusaders is uh feel good moment for him right that there's no small feat no no so that's a that's a great thing for him uh submals 14 crusaders 49 crusaders still are the crusaders although they're not in the
00:18:37
Speaker
Position they're used to in the in the ladder, but we'll see how that plays out assuming we get to keep going at some point here Yeah, I mean they're they're number one. Yeah, but they're not number one overall. No, it's still pretty good though The other game that was played at Suncorp Reds 41 Bulls 17 Bulls had
Reds vs. Bulls: Back Row Highlights
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Speaker
this game for about 15 20 minutes in their favor really I mean Reds didn't have fuck all for possession for the most amount first half and the yellow card on
00:19:04
Speaker
uh fayo'i satia didn't didn't really help no um i didn't really like that to see i that was a love hate i have a love-hate relationship with that yellow guard um i i good tone setter good tone setter but i thought that that was kind of a a soft yellow um it wasn't high he was shoulder to shoulder it was a little late but he'd already committed to making the contact
00:19:29
Speaker
He could have pulled out though. He probably could have pulled out. This is a good Red's team though. I have to say, you know. It is. They're very good Red's team. The Bulls are in trouble. They have some
00:19:44
Speaker
Good pieces. We know Roscoe Speckman knows where the tri-line is finally sorted his shit out. I'm figured it out But yeah, really that's that's the best part of this team Probably the front row is decent with the likes of Vinyakanya and Visagi and you know Brits if he ever gets healthy Liza Gabbaka is out He did not look good. No, so that's not good. But really the Reds the Reds
00:20:08
Speaker
You know, and there's the back row of Liam Wright, Lucan Solokai Lotto, who I have bagged on before, but I actually like the way he's playing now. He's playing like a second row that can play loose forward right now, and that's scary. That's like Maro type stuff that I'm looking at. And he's playing a lot better. So I'll give him loads of credit. And Harry Wilson just got a whole shitload of praise he'd done by Scott Robertson, who was a pretty good player in his day. So a little bit. Yeah. So loads of credit to him.
00:20:35
Speaker
The back line. I look it was a shame to see wilson have to go out though He was he was playing really well and then he was banged up and that knee Yeah, that knee wasn't it wasn't bad, but it wasn't it's not great. Great. He couldn't continue on it No, so they strapped him up, but it wasn't enough. Um, but that was a shame. It did only because it's it's so much fun watching Yeah, he's a he's a good player. He's playing well. Yeah, he's a nightmare. He's a nightmare. Um, so yeah reds 41 bull 17 that was uh
00:20:59
Speaker
This is the red scene that needs to be very excited no matter what happens the rest of this year. We'll say that. They have big things ahead of them, hopefully. And James O'Connor still continually rewriting his story. Yes. So much admiration for him doing that.
00:21:15
Speaker
bounce him back from basically a player that just probably got a little too much of the limelight and didn't know how to deal with it. And now he's responded well. That's really what it is. It's how you respond. Anybody who's that young gun can get a big head. It's just how you come back from it. Can you bounce back?
00:21:33
Speaker
And he did. He did really well. Over to South Africa, the game that gives me the lead and pick them. Sharks 24, Stormers 14.
Sharks' Potential in South Africa Conference
00:21:43
Speaker
I'd say mostly Sharks for the most part of this game with the exception of the... There was a point where the Stormers led, but it just felt like the Sharks were waiting to blow up.
00:21:53
Speaker
And Yanchi's try was great. He still lights out. Holy shit, this kid's good. I like him a lot. There wasn't an incident at the beginning of this match that I think we can consider.
00:22:10
Speaker
a certain Johan Dutoyo a little lucky because uh an incident like that where he gave no fucks about what he was about to do a little shooter yeah and really like took zero care in this like just went in and said fuck it i'm i'm already in and you know really for a penny in for a pound and yeah i was like oh man that's that that that was no
00:22:31
Speaker
No concern for the player in the air whatsoever. No, that should have been yeah sherbin red What was he the tmo was saying it landed on his back or was it the reference? The tmo was trying to convince him at sherbin red. Okay Yeah, tmo was really trying to talk him into a red, but no he landed on his back. It's no no, it doesn't matter It's not it's it's that you have a duty as as uh as the guy on the ground to take care of the guy in the air Make sure that he's not good
00:22:57
Speaker
Come close to breaking his fucking neck. Right? Fully loose shooter is okay. He had a concussion test, which he failed obviously, but that's it. Um, so that, that is, uh, that's an experience on the AJ Jacobs part in my view. Um, the bull, the bulls continue to have a back three. That's very dangerous. Obviously.
00:23:15
Speaker
with the likes of Fosse and Cosi, Mepimpi, and then you pull a tomboy off the bench, although he didn't play in this match, but still. And then, I will say, the kid's gonna figure it out, his service is garbage, but Sonelli Nohamba is gonna figure this thing out, who's the backup nine, obviously, he played a shit ton in this match. When he figures out what to do with the whole passing the ball thing, because he's got all kinds of skills elsewhere,
00:23:42
Speaker
he just needs to figure out how to have good service or they're gonna have to convert him to like a wing. Yeah. Because he's got skills out the wazoo. He just needs to figure out how to be a nine. You know, so I'll give him loads of credit for that. You should just watch the guy across the way. Yeah, Herschel's pretty good, unless I checked. So yeah, but other than that wasn't
00:24:00
Speaker
No, I didn't like the way it ended, to be honest. With the scrum, yeah. That scrum. To me, it looked as though the sharks were not scrummaging legally. I'm not sure how else to describe it. It just looked like the scrum kind of fell apart. And the ball seemed to be on the stormer's side. And somehow the sharks got it. And it was right in front of the ref. All these things, I'm like, that's not right. You got a ref game. All of that looks wrong. You got a ref game.
00:24:29
Speaker
Um, yeah, and and obviously well he was consistent at least through the end. That's true. Um, you know, it's fun to screw up one screw up another. Right. It's fun. And don't get me wrong. It's a lot of fun to watch my pimpy run. Um, yeah, yes it is. But, uh, I don't think he should have been in position to get that ball. No.
00:24:48
Speaker
Uh, you know scrums a lottery, especially with a referee that doesn't necessarily know what they're doing, which is most of them. Yeah. That's a lot of them. It's true. That's true. Um, sharks, 24 stormers, 14 sharks definitely look like teen to beat in South Africa conference. So heads up everybody. They can then the, and they can find ways to score tries from a lot of places, right? They're fucking dangerous. They have no problem doing that. No, I mean, with those, those runners that they have shit, my pimpy and cozy Fosse tomboy. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to good stuff back there.
00:25:17
Speaker
You can't fuck around with that. No, you should not. I agree. Let's go to, obviously Jaguars and the Highlanders got called off for good reason. They want to get the Highlanders back so they could
00:25:30
Speaker
get inside the New Zealand borders before the shutdown. Actually, Mike Fraser, who was referring, I think the Reds match. Yeah, he had to leave right away. They were going to have him do the Brumby's match. I said, you go home. Yeah, you're going to be out of your locked out of your country.
Brumbies' Tactical Excellence
00:25:42
Speaker
You don't go home. So go home. So that's what they did for him. So that was kind of them to think of him in that way. And then Brumby's war toss, 47, 14 Brumby's over the war toss. Very good stuff for the Brumby's, obviously. Can I try it? Oh, Marky Mark.
00:25:58
Speaker
Noacatan Owasi. There you go. Boom. I'm getting it. Did you practice that? No. Trust me, that's a tough name. Yes. You can't say it without practicing. I don't envy the commentators that have to say a name like Martin. Noacatan Owasi. Yeah, because I, it's, and just to do it on the snap and not have, not be able to practice. No, yeah, I couldn't, it's going to take a long, I mean. Loads of credit to those guys that could do that at the job of a hat. That's why they get paid to do it, right? I suppose so. They need to be able to say those names and know them right away.
00:26:28
Speaker
Yeah. But the other wing. Merehead. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. No. I was thinking I was going the other way. Yeah. His opposite of Kata doing doing forward work. Yeah. The peel off the scoring off a peel off a mall. Holy shit. Get out of there. Who's teaching them that? Like, seriously, who teaches a wing to do that? Flofyinga maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I was I was obviously impressed because that that was just
00:26:56
Speaker
The textbook uh, peel and and flop over the line. He knows he knows what the trial line is It seems he's he's figured it out five this year so far I think and that's after kind of having a shaky start coming over from leek. So yeah loads of credit to him Uh, although his second try was kind of off of a forward right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but um They they said nah the traditional inside ball off the 10 that goes forward about a meter or so no big deal They just kind of let that go they let it go
00:27:24
Speaker
I don't love rasta. So to to be fair to be fair. Um, I don't I don't love rasta He is a much better sevens ref than he is a 15 and that's a sevens pass right there that you just kind of let go and it's a little forward Yeah, but he did he did call out. I think it was michael mcdonald from the from the war toss for
00:27:41
Speaker
throwing a pass into a retreating Brumby's player on purpose and trying to milk a penalty. He's like, don't milk it. So he just awarded a scrum. He's like, you never scrum. That's it. I like it. I think the Brumby's did jump on it. But yeah, I don't agree with stuff like that. I'm not into that. Just stopping a dick.
00:28:00
Speaker
And it did all kind of fall apart or just after halftime. Yes for the ties Literally in the case of currently Bill's hamstring. Oh good Lord. Yeah, I was a sniper Yeah You're done you're done you're done. Yeah, he that was clear you pulled up like right wasn't even Yeah, it wasn't close Yeah, no It does but that's put him out of position and yes get hurt. Yeah
00:28:30
Speaker
All right, I'm not saying yeah, whatever it is leave that there Not that I've been saying anything about Beel at fullback. Yeah something like that but the I mean
00:28:41
Speaker
There's, there's a lot to like about this Brumby's team. This is an Australian team. That seems like they're not going anywhere. 12 13's a great combination. Um, both their wings. Yeah. Both the way we talked about Kata, but more head, mere head in this game. And you know, Tom writes, he plays a lot of wing as well. He played really well. This game when he came in, um, there's a lot to like Thomas Tom Banks, right? Tom should be fit for an Australian Jersey.
00:29:03
Speaker
And Lola CO is pretty handy for a fly half. Yes, two young halfbacks for this team between 9 and 10 there. And both very good. They're back row solid. Yeah, they go. Yeah, it's solid. It's not like spectacular. No, but Pete Samo can carry the ball well. So if they have somebody they need to lean on,
00:29:23
Speaker
for a good ball carry, they can lean on him. So, yeah, a lot of good things back there. Brumby's 47, Morata's 14. Brumby's definitely looking like they're in the driver's seat for the Australian conference, assuming we can get this whole thing rolling at one point or another. Okay, let's have a little fun.
00:29:41
Speaker
I don't think we do that on this pod. Never. Never. No fun allowed. All right. I'm going to do my best not to fuck this up. There's no fun in fantasy rugby. Yeah, no. OK, so I sent you the sheet earlier. Got it. Open. And we need to finagle this. So I was trying to do.
00:30:00
Speaker
the best possible team you could field for a premiership magazine based on current prices, old prices. You could probably get the best team if you want to. There have been some players that have blown up by 30 and 60 pounds and you could probably squeak in most of them except for maybe the last two positions. And I tried to use twenty eighteen twenty eight player roster because it's the minimum you need in TRM. Right. You know, I have thrown out some I was I had to trade out
00:30:29
Speaker
I have already traded out Blair Cowan for Albert Tuosui.
00:30:32
Speaker
not too far apart in points, but very far apart in price. So I put Tuosui as the 24th man. So what we need out of this, and we need to somehow for an angle from 382 pounds. Three positions. So that's not really possible because we'd be at like 120 a position and there ain't nobody worth a fuck. Either of those positions anyway. So we need another backup prop and then we probably need
00:31:00
Speaker
One more forward and one more back as well. One more front rower, I should say. Especially like a proper hooker. So let's talk about the names we have. The people out there following along at home can sort this out. Yeah, absolutely. So we're looking at the 1 through 28.
00:31:19
Speaker
Ollie Hoskins Franco Moray Benno Obano Johnny Hill Chris Vuey Dan Dupree Ben Earl Sam Simmons That's that rounds out you're starting forwards. Yep Dan Robson Marcus Smith Ollie Haskell Hassell Collins Rob Dupree Charles Pietow. I think we can probably work around him. I
00:31:42
Speaker
He's very versatile. He's got he's center wing and pull back. Yeah, so and that was the thing I was trying to get around with him in a bit toy a and more Yeah, more hand and you would tell you I'll have either one or two positions only right and asshole Collins is definitely a wing only So that's yeah, that's the other problem
00:31:57
Speaker
And the obviously the between a and more hand on the next two. Yeah 14 and 15 then starting at our reserve hooker Mike Haywood reserve props open Then other reserves forwards Nick is equally and Ted Hill halfbacks Reese Priestlin
00:32:16
Speaker
Are both are both fly halves, right? Callum and Callum sheety. We do have another skyrm half on the roster though, right? Umaga kiburigi that rounds out our 23. Yeah outside of the one um, then on the bench, uh tuisui hugard Yeah, and louis reese zamit louis reese zamit. So we need to Re-rejig some of this um for uh
00:32:41
Speaker
Probably on the back. I want to say on somewhere on the back end. We can probably reject some of this Yeah, I mean I'm looking for guys that are a little bit lower price that we can trade out without sacrificing a ton of points, right?
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00:32:56
Speaker
I'm trying to find one here So doing this live is it's kind of fun actually it is kind of fun. Um, I
00:33:06
Speaker
Is because I'm looking I'm looking at our fly half situation. Mm-hmm and seeing that we have the top three full. Sorry top four scoring fly halves Which are right? They're all over they're all well over 300 points
00:33:21
Speaker
Let's look at scrum hats though. We have so the three scrum hats were who guard Brinek and Robson and then the next best one is Danny care who's also not that cheap so right that's that's kind of the problem Yeah, that kind of hurts us there and then fly half
00:33:37
Speaker
You kind of you do get some cheapness, but yeah, there's there's that cutoff right under robert duprea I mean duncan weir is the next highest scoring he's 80 points behind duprea. So yeah, it's quite that's quite That's not where we're gonna write. What's the price difference between the two of them? But um, it's Between duprea and duncan weir. Yeah, it's um 20 25 points 25k. Oh really that's it. It's not it's not worth it. No, it's not nearly worth it Nope, that's definitely not worth the 80 points in my book
00:34:06
Speaker
No. Okay. So then from there, hmm. So yeah, again, we're looking at the, we're probably looking at re re re jigging the back end here a little bit. Yeah. Um, it's hard with centers though. Cause shit, you look at the, the top two scoring centers are dupria and pia tau. Yeah. Um, and they're eligible elsewhere. Right. And then the next one is Marshall.
00:34:27
Speaker
And he's not cheap either. No, he's 252. He's actually pretty cheap, but he's 69 points behind Pietal. Yeah, that's not it. That's not the answer there. So you're saving 140k, but you're losing close to 100 points. OK. So what about somewhere in our back row we might be able to make some sort of sacrifice? I mean, I'm looking at one I'm looking at specifically is
00:34:56
Speaker
Yeah, Luke Morahan. OK. How much is he? So Morahan at 15. You two have him at 15. He is 276k for 300 points. Right. What's the next fullback?
00:35:10
Speaker
The next wall. Oh, I'm looking at wings. Oh, OK. So he's at full back, but he's there. So yeah, I guess it would have to be a full back. But you could put me in. Yeah. Which sucks. Hassel Collins and Nabatoa are wing only. Yeah, you're looking at there Tom Marshall, who is 40 points behind him and only 20K cheaper. Cheaper. Woo. So it's not. Yeah. Yeah. So again, we're going to have to look towards the 20s on our roster. Right.
00:35:39
Speaker
Although if you want to look long term i'd look at joe simmons instead Being that he is 30k cheaper and he's 60 60 points behind him, but that's gonna change I see joe simmons being uh over over moran over moran, but that's again that long term where uh, he'll I think he'll score more by the end of the season rather than Immediately, uh-huh
00:36:01
Speaker
Um, man, this is a pain in the neck. But at the same time, if we're talking about, you know, we're trying to build a full team, um, that might be the better option or, or even just cutting the 25 and going with Marshall or putting Pia Tal back there and removing Morahan entirely and subbing in someone else. Uh, do we have, do we have another fullback in, do we have another fullback in our midst? Um, yeah. What if, what if we did, what if we chopped?
00:36:32
Speaker
What if we chopped more hand input? Cause who's our, who's our backup back three guy? Um, well, no, we could do, uh, what if we put Jacob Umaga in there? Who can we chop? How much dough can we save by putting Jacob Umaga in for more hand? Cause Jacob Umaga is pretty cheap. Yeah. I'm looking for him now. Oh wait, I just saw him and I lost him.
00:37:01
Speaker
And then we'll replace jacob umaga with somebody a little cheaper. That's either um wing or center umaga is 173. Okay. Okay and 232 232 and one so that's 60 points. What's the difference? Well, hold on a sec. Um, I lost I Lost me you lost it. Uh, I totally lost it. So we have Because we're looking at morhen who's not center eligible. Nope
00:37:28
Speaker
Um, so more hen is at 300 points Um, um, um, um magga, where'd he go? I lost him. He's at 232 Okay, so we're talking about 70 points difference, but what's the price difference? The price difference is 272 i'm, sorry 276 and 173 and
00:37:49
Speaker
Oh my god, 173. Yeah, that's worth it. 100 pounds to shave off some. For 70 points? Yeah, for 70 points. I would trade that totally. So there we go. So that frees us up another. Let's see.
00:38:03
Speaker
So more hands out. So do we. That frees us up almost another 100 pounds. Yeah, but where do we put, where do we put a MAGA? Oh, we put it. Either send it or fall back. Right. We put it in my full back. We just plug it in my full back, it doesn't matter. Fair enough. So yeah, there's that. So that gives us, looks like we got another, so that brings us up to like four, mid fours here. 382 plus like 99, yeah.
00:38:30
Speaker
So 41, so there's that. So 41 for three more spots, see we can, yeah. But now we gotta add, we actually have to add a fourth, but at least we've saved ourselves a little bit of coin there. That's the other, oh wait, what about, there's one more, yeah, there's gotta be one more I can do, hold on one second.
00:38:58
Speaker
So we moved that up and so we moved him into the lineup. Um, yeah. And then it's not the big T is not the answer to that. Um, in terms of price savings on that one, uh, do, to do, to do, we can save points. Let's see. Jack Willis is not on your team.
00:39:18
Speaker
No, he's not because he can't he's not super cheap, but he's also like the tenth. He's 250. Oh, yeah. He's looking at the other loose forwards. Yeah, he's like the tenth loose forward down, which is crazy to think. Yeah. Cowan's actually a better deal right now. Yeah, slightly better deal. So yeah, I actually so I wonder. Can we move? Who is our
00:39:45
Speaker
Can we maybe trade Cowan for, and I love, I love the kid, but maybe trade Cowan for, uh, Nope. Actually, nope. Cause we need a lot. We need a lock at that spot and Cowan's not lock eligible. Damn. Um, what do you think about Cornell? For, for who? For.
00:40:04
Speaker
A lot of these guys. I mean I'm just looking at um He's he's 229 K. So he's very cheap and he's 288 points Okay, so when we're talking about guys like well, let's see. Who are we? Well, we are back up Samson is Yeah, yeah, but it's hard to take away the best score in the right the whole thing But I'm thick looking at where's Tui Tui Tui is like one something
00:40:31
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, he's way down the list, but he's won something he's won 91 and then what about a zquae? The sequel a see the problem with Cornell de Prius. He's not lock eligible. We need a lock Maybe maybe we get what's the difference between? To a suey and a sick way in points that maybe that's the question I want to ask cuz okay a zquae is at 341. Mm-hmm and I have to go to the eight for two suey and
00:41:01
Speaker
There he is. 282. So you're looking at. 60 points. 60 points and. Give or take. 110k. Oh really?
00:41:18
Speaker
Cuz your friends cuz his equals 300k. All right, and to a suey is 191. All right, so let's let's bump that once let's bump to a suey from our 24 to our 18 Put a sequel 18 so that frees up a little bit of Scratch we need another play we obviously we need another player But you know, you got to figure out where you can save the save the coin man. Yeah, I
00:41:51
Speaker
Saving phrasing saving phrasing. Um, all right, so that gives us So would you say a hundred and something? It is 300 to 191 so 109 All right, so now we have 590 to get five guys. All right So let's see what we can do here doing a lot of getting rid of guys. Not a lot I know pulling them in I know but we've we've found some options that are cheaper and we can go to the back end a little bit better here and at some point Oh wait, we were looking at uh
00:42:09
Speaker
It's all about the coinage saving.
00:42:20
Speaker
Hold on let me go back to this because if you're looking at a backup prop, I think I got one for you and I'm not mistaken Yes, this is tough Yeah, I'd look at it will Stewart
00:42:42
Speaker
Yeah, what's he what's he what's his price he's 191 And he has 155 points. Okay, so we we can probably throw him into that one I think we're gonna have to find some more savings elsewhere. But yeah again, but that's right. Where's where's Obano? So we'll store and was he 191? He's 191 k and 155 points. So we're down to 399 And we said yeah, we're gonna have to make some tradeouts. Um, actually let's look at um
00:43:11
Speaker
Who can we what is the next highest scoring wing from Zach Kimberly not named Reese's Emmett? Well, he's cheap he is kind of cheap
00:43:27
Speaker
He's only 169. He is? Yeah. That's it? Yeah. Jeez. Although he's out for a one... Right, but I mean, one more time. Yeah. I'm doing this a little bit in the vacuum too, so. But you're looking at Rona. Yeah, they all get more expensive after that. Oh, man. Okay. So what about... What's the difference between... Oh, jeez, that's a hell of a falloff. Between... That's 50 points. Yeah, if you're going Rona to, like, Ybetoye or something, I'm just looking at the...
00:43:58
Speaker
Cheese, yeah All right, what's the difference between I Think he's a hundred I think we can get rid of who guard on the bench Yeah, and what are we gonna do for who we gonna replace him with on the third as the third sculptor? So let me look at the second, but yeah, well, you know, he's he's always he yeah He's only we only have two. Okay, but that's fine. If we can find another scrum half because he's 354 I
00:44:27
Speaker
And and he has 324 so that's like a that's not bad. We've had yeah, we don't we lose 70 points by going down to bend me and But it's also next Well, you have to go to danny care who's more is about the same price. Oh, yes. He is. Oh jeez. Yes. He is
00:44:43
Speaker
Um, and obviously you don't want to go run it because he's more right. Um, yeah, I mean me and You're dropping. Oh jeez. You're dropping freaking 70 points 70 points, but over about 111 Yeah, okay as as your backup Right. That's where i'm looking at. Maybe that's maybe that's worth it Yeah, that's your backup because obviously dan robson's the best score you got him in there, right? Ben mian Plays most games too, right? So
00:45:08
Speaker
So that's why I would go with that, only because it's, you know. So Huard is 354, and Mian is 243. Yeah. That gives us another 111 just by changing that out. Right. Okay, that's pretty good. That helps. That'll help us a lot.
00:45:30
Speaker
Yeah. And he's not even technically, because also you're thinking about in this, you're thinking about the bench points that score. So it's okay to not have an actual nine at that sub nine spot, as long as it's a half back of some sort, whether it's a flyer or a scrum. So you only need, you really only need to, I only have two scrum halves on my team. And it's fine. I mean, it works as long as you got guys that play a lot.
00:45:53
Speaker
Right. All right. So we're back up to 510 with 1 2 3 4. Okay. This is more do getting there. This is more doable You want to see so divided by 4 Yeah, we still have to make one more sub I think to write get a get a slightly cheaper option And what about fly out because we have to fly out sitting on our bench as well What's next what about
00:46:18
Speaker
Here's me. I mean, I'd almost with four with four with four ten eligible guys already on the field. I wonder if maybe in that same light we can make another concession by going not even to Duncan Weir. I'm thinking about going all the way down to James Grayson. Who's one eighty nine? I mean, look. Grace, how do you see points? It's a it's a it's a steep drop off from who are we getting rid of?
00:46:48
Speaker
sheety It would have to be sheety. I know it's a steep drop-off, but we already have we have marcus smith. We have priestland I wouldn't go grace and only because he's not going to play I mean he when he plays he scores Okay, but he's not going to play that all that much um if anything
00:47:08
Speaker
If we're going to if we would do that, I would just say we're going to drop a fly half and not pick up another one because look at what we say because how many fly house do we have on here? We've got we have we have four, but we have one playing center and we have one that's serving us as the next half back. Yeah as well. And that's worth it because they're they're scoring more than centers anyway.
00:47:28
Speaker
I might not look there because we're not we're not going to get much value in exchange for you know points wise in exchange for The money yeah, so I don't think that's the place I'm Trying to see where the other expensive guys are on this team and really the big one that I see is is Sam Simmons and
00:47:50
Speaker
But he's the top scorer. He's also the top scorer by far. And we don't save a lot by going down to like Dom Brant. Right. And then looking at. Yeah, I mean, you got to keep. Yeah, you don't save a ton by going down to unless you put Dan Dupree at lock because he qualifies there. Right.
00:48:15
Speaker
And that way you can take out Johnny Hill. I started that there, but then Vooey and then Earl and Vooey reared their ugly heads and I was like, oh shit. So I had to finagle that one. But yeah, because then we're looking at a different six. Like if we can sub out Johnny Hill at lock, but he's 295.
00:48:39
Speaker
Let me give it a flank real quick 295 Um, uh, yeah, actually blair count kind of jumps out at me at that point, right? How much how much is how much is uh, johnny hill 295 johnny hill is 295 What is what order is points 350?
00:48:56
Speaker
Which is a lot, but it's only a 20 point drop though. Yeah for Blair Cowan. So that's not bad actually and we're gonna that'll be I Mean there'll be a 60 point drop 60 pound drop just about so right and it's 30 so 30 points Yeah, so you could you could manage that 20 points even if you shoved
00:49:16
Speaker
Um, even if you shoved like that's 60 pounds for 20 points. Yeah, so I I would do that Yeah, definitely All right. So we have 5 11 And we trade out The most outrageous thing johnny hill for Cowan, right? So that's 295 Put ddp in there. Yeah, and then we're putting coward on the flank
00:49:43
Speaker
Yep. Okay. So, and then you said 60 points on top, 60 pounds on top of that to get back. 39, 295. So it's 50, 56. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me get that right. Yeah, 56. Okay. So we're down, we're up to 567 and we have one, two, three, four guys to fill in.
00:50:06
Speaker
That's more doable right because now we can start at like four and 40s at least right. So now we're looking at guys who are you know, we can look at some some cheaper options as well as Some guys we don't expect points from honestly like sometimes you put a guy who's like not going to score your points on your bench or you're not gonna play too often, right like Let's see who's back who's in there
00:50:33
Speaker
I mean you can oh man. Yeah, this still just there's still so much that we need to There's still so little there. Oh, man. This is so hard We might this might be a tbd. Yeah, um, damn, dude We've had we're stuck on this one I'm gonna have to give this a good think. Yeah, so yeah, so if anybody has ideas on this one We're up to 556. Did we say or 565? It was 511 plus 56 pounds. Yeah
00:51:04
Speaker
It's up to 567 with four players to plug into. And we still have to continue to make some alterations here, I think. So we're going to keep ourselves busy. Yeah. This will keep us busy for a little while. Yeah. But thanks for hanging around with us for a little while. If we come up with a little solution, then we will certainly share it with you all. Right. But until we get to do this again, maybe in a couple of weeks, we'll come in and just
00:51:30
Speaker
fuck about for a bit. And until then, everybody stay safe and keep everybody else in mind. Be kind to each other. We have to work with each other right now. All right, this is not going to be a white knuckle deal. Everybody has to work together on this one. So until then, thanks for coming along, guys. We appreciate you listening and catching you guys next time. Good one. Later. Cheers.