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Season 5- Episode 3- The Yanks Have the Answers (Premiership Round 1)
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Well, we crammed quite a bit in to this one. On this episode of TFRY we are all about how to solve the woes of the Premiership and rugby in general (yes still). The main driver of the conversation stemming from the clip from BT Sports chat with the Prem Chief Exectutive and his less than satisfactory comments. Oh, there was some rugby too! We look back at the opening weekend of the season and try to unhatch what happened at the two non-televised matches. Grab something cold and come along for the fun with us!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Housekeeping
00:00:02
Speaker
It is the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. A collusion. A collusion.
Premiership Opening Weekend and Broadcasting Issues
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Hello, everybody. It is the Fantasy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:30
Speaker
I'm Ben Glauser. Let's get to it. Opening Weekend of the Prom. It's in the books and we got a lot to talk about. It was mostly on TV. Yeah, unfortunately it wasn't all on TV, but it's still in the books and we've totaled everything finally and yes, many things. And I do have to apologize. I do have to apologize to the poor peacock.
00:00:53
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customer service reps that had to deal with me being tough but firm on why I couldn't see Bears versus Bath. Well, they were giving me the runaround. Right, they were giving me the runaround. But okay.
00:01:07
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they couldn't say was that dumbass, this isn't even being televised in England. So we don't have a broadcast to give you. Fair. And I also understand why they didn't know that. So I, I mean, like I said, I wasn't being a day, I wasn't, you know, I'm, I'm nice to people like that, because they don't, they have to deal with people who aren't happy. And it's not their fault. They're not the ones responsible for it. No, they're not the ones talking. It was just one of those, like, the one I got timed out because
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He didn't respond to me in time. He's like, let me check on that. And then five minutes passed and it booted me out. Dude. So the second time around, every so often, I'd be like, hey, do you have an update? Just to make sure I didn't. And I was like, he had to deal with that. But I was only doing it because I didn't want it to happen. Yeah. So anyway, apologies, guys. But damn, sucks that those weren't broadcast. No, I totally does. That makes me thirsty. We'll get there. Yeah, let's get some beers.
00:02:06
Speaker
Find us on your favorite podcast app, which you're probably listening to on right now. But share, download rate review, all that good stuff. What you got there, chief?
Halloween Beers and Neighbors' Gifts
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I got a Doom Sauce from the makers of Boom Sauce because it's the Halloween season. Right. The Hobo of Lords. Lord Hobo.
00:02:26
Speaker
I saw the Doom sauce and I was like, Oh, you know what? I got to try that. That's funny. Yeah. My neighbors gave me, um, a gift for watching their dog. And I, I told you the story about the dog almost falling out the window. Didn't I?
00:02:40
Speaker
Yes. Making sure the dog didn't fall out the window. So my gift was a nice little four pack of really good beer. Nice. I'd like to think that if Taz was in trouble, they would have done the same thing. Yeah, exactly. We'll go with one day just return the favor to make sure he doesn't die, please. Right. I mean, although I could easily imagine Taz falling out of window.
00:03:02
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He's crashed through. You know that like gate thing that we were talking about that my wife was putting together? He's crashed through it. He saw a squirrel and BAM right through the thing. I was like, I told you that wasn't going to hold him. Anyway, that hasn't seen my dog.
Dog Tales and Listener Shoutouts
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He is a 60 pound chonk and he moves like the wind. So he's just a bowling ball waiting to happen. And he has no regard for himself. He just says, fuck it.
00:03:32
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everything. It's funny like any and he's super friendly and and um and good natured he's just yeah he's just an oaf and like because it's funny we have like two kind of similar type personality dogs except mine's way more timid Kylie has always been like very uh
00:03:49
Speaker
You're like, I'll try stuff, but if I know what's wrong, I won't do it. Whereas Taz is more of a, yeah, I don't give a shit, right? And although, you know, he's still got that puppy in him. Yeah, he's still got a little puppy in him, but no, he's, he's mostly good. But yeah, so that that's the story of the dogs. Getting back to the more important things or semi more important things by our good friend, George, the fantasy rugby geek, a beer, because if you won your fancy week this weekend, I would wager that
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Speaker
He had something to do with it. And also he, uh, he definitely was stressing about getting that thing up because of certain things going on with his own travel. So buy the man a beer so we can relax. Okay. So we can chill out. Um, but yes, uh, give him, give him a beer, coffee, whatever the hell you want to call it. And we, and I'm sure you'd appreciate that very much. Yes.
Inclusivity in Rugby: Policies and Criticism
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As always on this podcast and in rugby, there's no room for discrimination or, or in life at all. Um, so we were talking, we were talking about, um, one thing we'll talk about later is, um, a clip from BT sport. But, uh, unfortunately, uh, the Laleos got it wrong where he's saying, and maybe he just didn't understand what he was saying, but in which, which case he needs to be slapped. But, um, the inclusivity of the sport, it's,
00:05:07
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especially in England and a few other places. I don't think we can say that's really the case because we have inclusivity with our trans players and that's happening globally, unfortunately, as well. Initially, the movement towards the band was rejected by a lot of rugby unions and now it seems to be being accepted slowly. I don't understand what the change happened was
00:05:31
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Um, so now I'm getting really annoyed. Um, yeah, RFUs kind of stayed, stayed Pat where they were, which fuck them, but you know, yeah, still just the same USA rugby is kind of moving backwards and backwards in a way to, I mean, well, USA is moving backwards. So that's in general. Um, yeah. And it's just like the worst part is you ask the women's teams.
00:05:53
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And they're all, as far as I have seen, I have not seen a single women's team. I mean, maybe some individual players who are like, yeah, I don't like it because that's the whole political angle. But the players, most players that I've ever seen are like, no, this is for everyone.
00:06:14
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like this is not we're not scared, but it's always and it's generally men who are like, well, this isn't fair. And it's like, right. Fuck up. But you really don't get this. Like if you really think it's that bad, like you don't get the sport at all. No. And a ball. And we said this back when we talked with Jess as well, like the the
00:06:37
Speaker
people they did not talk to about this whole thing were women's players in clubs like right did you actually ask the people that this affects the most right no you didn't you just said screw we're gonna do it anyway because we're a bunch of old white angry motherfuckers
00:06:51
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Right. And not only that, but you are, you're speaking for them. Like you didn't listen to them and then you claim to be speaking for them. And how, like, I don't know how you, you can say it's inclusive when you're like, well, well, these people feel this way. And it's like, well, do they?
00:07:07
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No, like, do they really? Yeah, it's just a bad excuse for a bad policy and they know it. So. Right. Yeah. It's just really silly. So at this point, it's up to people like.
00:07:23
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Dalalio to speak up, especially in the position he was in, in that particular individual. To say, if we're inclusive, this needs to be part of the inclusivity. Even if it's at very least a little like a light-handed slap of it, because there were more important things to talk about there. It's just that when you bring up inclusivity, it's got to be brought up.
00:07:48
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You brought it up. It wasn't part of the discussion, but now it is. As soon as you open your mouth and say that word, you now have to at least have some sort of offhand mention of it at minimum. And then maybe you can
00:08:04
Speaker
Talk about it off camera. Hey, maybe we can discuss this another time. Right. You know, let's let's get to it. Let's get to. Yeah, exactly that. Or even say that right there. It's like, well, no, the inclusivity discussion is for another, you know, like even just say that out loud, like, let's not have that, you know.
00:08:20
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Yeah, put it on the table for everyone to see so they can hold you accountable. Exactly. That would be that would be a hell of an idea, but they call me crazy. But I also feel like it was a little weaselly to bring it up in a in a discussion where that really was not because you're trying to grow that you can't have a fight.
00:08:37
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in a panel where you're trying to talk about growing the game. You can't have two guys going at each other. No, you don't want that. So I so it's kind of like I can say whatever the fuck I want in this space kind of thing. So that that I don't appreciate. Yeah, you just hope that he's he is more mindful of it and looks back on it and says, oh, shit, I really spit the bit when I open my mouth on that one.
00:09:00
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It's all you can hope for at that point. Otherwise, somebody's got to talk to them and say, hey, remember this whole thing? We need to actually talk about it next time.
Podcast Patreon and Support Call-out
00:09:14
Speaker
less less unhappy things. Grab our Patreon because we're going to start putting out some content soon here. Data should be coming next week, if not the latest the week after. Right. But it's not too valuable this week anyway. So no, no, it's not going to be a big deal this weekend. You can I'm sure everybody can. You can see all the planes that are there. They've a sample size of one. Right. I am doing for that. I am actually doing my damnedest to at least compile meters and tackles and tackle stats.
00:09:44
Speaker
So we'll see what happens with that. There may be a point where it's like, this is too much, but I will do my damnedest to compile that in a nice, easy place for it to be seen with, cause FRD does do it. Like you can sort it in those ways, but you only get 20 odd at a whack. And with our, hopefully with our sheet, we can, you can see the top 50, a hundred tacklers if you just sort it right. So that's my plan. And I know there's a lot of stat nerds out there like Ben and I, so.
00:10:13
Speaker
I'm sure they would be anxious to see some of these numbers. I'm excited to see that. I'm excited to see, yeah, that and if, you know, other numbers like tri-assists and... Yeah, those can be fairly easy for the sake of like who's at the top. That's right. I'm looking for, yeah, not so much the top, but like that's the problem. You only see the guys at the top if you go to the prem.
00:10:35
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Yeah, that I don't like about the front page like you see the top what five? Yeah, sometimes like sometimes I've seen to ten or so. All right, that'd be nice That'd be nice. But anyway, so grab our patreon. There is a new post up there from this guy right here booms bus and
00:10:56
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whether I'm right or wrong, I don't know, but that's just what I see for now. But yeah, there's that. And then welcome to our newest patron Stewart. We appreciate you Stewart for
00:11:09
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diving in and hanging out with us and supporting us because every bit of support we get from you all helps. We don't expect this to be a paid gig unless somebody from American Sports wants to give us a phone call, other than that. I'd be okay with that. I'd be okay if they don't, honestly. Some of these networks blow. But otherwise, yeah, we appreciate the little support we can because we do this because we care and it is helpful for us to know that we're making a little change here and there.
00:11:39
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All right, I'm speaking of change Worcester and helping people.
Worcester Rugby's Financial Woes
00:11:46
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Yeah, Worcester rugby
00:11:48
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could have a lifeline. Nothing is a hundred percent sure, but the news looks good so far. Let's put it that way. It started yesterday and it's tripled into today because they were talking about like at the end of the month, they need to have a solution. And obviously nobody wants to see this club go into administration because whether they get a new owner or not, because you lose so much, you really do. And, you know, unfortunately the last club I can think of
00:12:18
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that went into administration was London Welsh unless somebody else can.
00:12:22
Speaker
correct me, but, and that was a total disaster. They are not even, they're just, they're just an average bang on club. Now they are not, they're not a professional club. They're not semi professional club. They're in, as far as I know, they, they barely exist. So, um, nobody wants that again. It was, yeah, that was a man. I still remember that season, that, that second season they were in the premiership and they were horrid. It was, it was at one point.
00:12:50
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And that was just like the tip of the whole iceberg. I don't remember. I was one of those like I was able to follow the pram a little bit at some point and then that wasn't. And then by the time I came back to it, like I or maybe it was even the Champions Cup where I would see them. So I knew that there was only an Irish from London Welsh. And then when I actually started like following like the pram, they were they were gone. Yeah, they were.
00:13:17
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that whole thing was just the tip of the iceberg. Wooster has a lot more to hang on to, I would say. And thankfully, it looks like they're going to be able to. And yeah, it's only good things. And it's not like.
00:13:32
Speaker
this is just a bad owner. It really is that they're getting away from. So hopefully, you know, whatever problems they have, we'll turn things around and these new investors will see, you know, opportunity and they will see the good that this club brings to a lot of people. And, you know, we talked, we were talking about last week about put butts in seats. All right, that's fine. We know we got to put butts in seats at six ways. It can't be done, but they don't have the opportunity.
00:14:01
Speaker
But yeah, that'd be helpful. That is helpful. So hopefully that turns around. But in any case, you know, the fact that there is a lifeline seemingly coming is only good news and hopefully, well, you know, it's hard to play with. You have that over your head. It really is. Yeah, it is. It is. And you can see that there was a and we'll get to that match, but it was it was emotional. The Worcester players were were extra dickish.
00:14:28
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or I shouldn't say dickish. That's not right. They were extra sensitive. So they overreacted to things good and bad. It was, you could, yeah. They're on edge, you know? Right, exactly. That they're certainly playing on that kind of on it, like with very, yeah, very raw. From what I read and understand, this week, all the back wages will be paid.
00:14:54
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Yes, that's what they're saying. So even if things don't quite get the dotted line signed on, at least they can sip these, the staff, the players can all sit back and say, all right, our checks are here, you know, I'm no longer worrying about how I'm going to feed my family, all that shit. That is an awful feeling. So that is the upside to that. And hopefully,
00:15:16
Speaker
The good news continues to come, but all the good juju out there for them guys, cause you know, as bad as their rugby might've been, they, we do not want this club going under. No, we want to finish the season with 13. I think it was Nick, Nick Mullins had said something
Growing Rugby's Audience
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about it. I was like, yep, exactly. The most important thing right now is that we finished the season with 13 teams, regardless of who finishes where. Right. Um, we also have on the docket here, we had, um,
00:15:46
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What was the guy's name? Jeez, I just saw it. The Prim Rugby Exec. Come on to be T-sport and I got to see, we got to see the interview because they tweeted it out. Simon Massey Taylor. Yeah. So we, and it was, there were lots of bits that were tweeted out and the one bit that caught my attention the most was talking about growing the game. And I feel like he's kind of going,
00:16:15
Speaker
on about the same things they've been going on about for a while. And there's not been a whole lot of results. So my thoughts obviously were a little, you know, I was a little annoyed. I was like, so you're not really changing your policy. It was what it sounds like. The same topics, the same problems still face the league and rugby in general. We're obviously talking about the league specifically right now. And I know a lot of people are talking about, you know, more free to air games. And I don't argue with that. I understand the need to make a buck.
00:16:45
Speaker
But putting on one free-to-air game a week could easily get you, you know, a few more fans every day. Right. And to me, that video was a lot. And as you're saying, even if it wasn't something that they'd been talking about forever and it was saying the same things that they've been saying forever.
00:17:07
Speaker
I, there was no, here's how we're going to do it. There was no, you know, we need to get people more involved. We need to make it an event. Okay. Well, what do you make? How do you make it an event? How do you make it special? How do you do that? Like, how do you make the games big? Like they really need to start following the NFL model of.
00:17:25
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of how they do that, which is, and as we were saying before this comes on, you go to, you follow NFL Twitter, you follow any NFL account or whatever on Twitter. On Sunday, you go on there and there's just tweet after tweet of, oh, look at this amazing touchdown pass. And it's like, hey, yeah, he caught the ball. Like, okay. Yeah, that's a nice move. Yeah, but they're building it up and it's a big thing.
00:17:50
Speaker
And and that goes to I will say, you know as much as we I have a very love-hate relationship with rugby inside line, which is Certainly, but I think better than your opinion towards them, but they this is why yeah, right? They put out this
00:18:10
Speaker
the views on the club accounts, where was Ellis Ganges first try had 190k views, 190,000 views, you know, the Anyanwu try had 180,000 Ganges second try had 102, like just right there. And it's like,
00:18:25
Speaker
But you have to, like, I only was fortunate enough to stumble upon the Genj tries. Like they just happened to come across my feed, even though I follow Ferd and Crij every, like I interact a lot with, with Rugby Twitter. The Anyanwu, I just, I saw it live. It was fucking amazing. It was ridiculous. I didn't even see it on Twitter, but I also didn't even see it posted on Twitter. So I,
00:18:48
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England rugby has to post them, premiership rugby has to post them. Yes, I know the content, whatever, may be licensed, but you got to own that license and get that out there and boost engagement with the sport. And there's the other thing, even if you don't want to make all rugby live to watch, I come from a time, and it feels weird considering the culture that we're in now, I come from a time when you had
00:19:17
Speaker
You could watch maybe three football games on a Sunday. You'd get, you know, from Philadelphia. So we get the Eagles, whatever game they're playing, you pretty much get. And then at most you got the late before PM match. There was no Sunday night football. It didn't exist. So you either got to watch the Eagles and then another team after that or before it, whatever. And then one team, one broadcast on the other one and then Monday night football. So you could watch a total of four games in a week. Now,
00:19:45
Speaker
Like you get all you have access to all these things. You know, there's the NFL network. I know the prem network is. Yeah, that's not going to happen. But at least you can do something on it. You don't start producing certain videos like that. Smaller scale. Yeah. Right. But make and make it an event. Something like what's the best football game of the week?
00:20:04
Speaker
The one that they build the highest is Sunday Night Football. Sunday Night Football. And that's free to air. That's on NBC, over the air. They make it accessible. And they try to make it so that it's the best game. They can flex games into it. Yes. Yeah, after what, week five? I think maybe 10 or so like that, because that way they know who's good. They know who's good at that point. That makes sense.
00:20:30
Speaker
Like, do that. Make a game that's free to air on a night. Make it a night game. Make it something where you're like, it is an event and it's special. And then also to me, I'm sorry, I'm going to go off on this. How many game weeks are there this year? 26?
00:20:53
Speaker
Yes, I believe so. How important can any one match be if it's one of 25 or 24? The answer to that does lie within the premiership's control and that is we have to bring back relegation and promotion.
00:21:14
Speaker
because then matches get really important. Now, as somebody that's a Premier League fan, I can tell you I am cheering for every fucking full-on goal because I want to survive and stay in the Premier League. That means I am watching every match that I can possibly watch for full-on. Thankfully, I have Peacock, so as long as I'm in front of the TV, I can watch it.
00:21:37
Speaker
It's the same, you need, you might not get the same exact type of thing, but you'll get damn close to it. And the fact that they've just kind of relegated all these teams to not being worthy of being premiership ready.
00:21:51
Speaker
Do some fucking work to get them ready. Help them. Don't just sit on your hands and say, you're not Premier League ready. Premier Shep run you ready. So we're just going to sit on your hands and wait for you to be ready. Help them. Bring them along. The whole point of growing the sport is to get more teams to be better, you know? It would be nice that, you know, if we have, when we get back to this, whatever team that drops out of the Premier Ship isn't such a fucking automatic go right back up. It really would be nice, you know? I can tell you, and again, speaking from experience with Footy,
00:22:21
Speaker
Every time Fulham drops, I'm like, can we get back up? And I am just like, so on pins and wheels, can we get back up? And there was a point where they dropped and they didn't get back up for like freaking six years. And trust me, I was the most annoyed person. So, you know, do you need that type of competition in your second tier and you don't have it right now? You really don't.
00:22:41
Speaker
But to me, I'm also thinking, like, how many do we, you know, they want to they want to hype heroes of the game. OK, how many matches overall aside rivalry matches are every sport has them. You still got to find a way to make them bigger than they are. And that's that's failing right now because there's only there's 24 matches. So it's not a huge deal to me. Start with, you know, bring in divisions like our conferences where you're playing each of your your opponents.
00:23:10
Speaker
you know, each of you people in your division twice, and then you play the other teams once, and then it's instead of 24 matches, now you're talking at like 17, and everything's a lot tighter, or 18. Or even maybe less than that, because you're only playing once on the other side. So whatever it is, I haven't done the numbers. But like, then expand the playoffs.
00:23:35
Speaker
Cause you only have a semi-final and a final. And it's like, how many guys playing in big games, like big players play, come up with big play. Like they'd come up with the, that's where the plays matter. Like if somebody scores an amazing, like all the tries that Marcus Smith scored two years ago, nothing compared to what he did against Bristol. And then again, against that.
00:24:00
Speaker
But he's only played in a few of those match. That shouldn't be the way it is. He should be in multiple playoffs. You want to highlight these guys. You don't want to just be like, yeah, they'll play really well against Bath. Yay. But it matters more when the winner go home. That's when you really see hockey is too long. Nobody really cares about the regular season.
00:24:26
Speaker
But then fucking half the team at the league makes the playoffs, but it's still awesome. The hockey playoffs are the best playoffs. Rugby needs to. Yeah, I know. Like the playoff expansion has got to happen because they need to get more. That's where the intrigue really happens. That's where that, you know, you put your balls on the table and see who's got the hammer. Right. I think I think.
00:24:46
Speaker
For me, I could meet I mean, I could meet halfway with the playoff expansion and then I would be able to have some sort of compromise with having the Champions Cup be eight teams. If that were the case. Yeah. And then and couple that with let's bring in a 14th Premiership team. Right. And
00:25:05
Speaker
and make sure we have promotion and relegation, I think. Yes. And maybe we can cut down the schedule to like 22, 20. I think that's probably where you're going to probably land in that semi-sweet spot. 20, I think, would be right where you want it. Because you're not going to be able to play every team. If you have 14 teams, you're not going to be able to play everybody every week, every other week, twice. Simple as that. You're going to have to figure that out.
00:25:28
Speaker
especially where it's week, especially where you only play on Saturdays and you have to fit the champions cup in. You know, Premier League has something a little bit easier where they have a lot of midweek games. That's why they're able to shove in 19 games, you know, our 19 opponents home and away. So that'd be 38. That's a lot. Would never, would never work, would never work for Premiership. And I totally agree with that.
00:25:50
Speaker
So, yes, I think if we got to the 14th team, whoever it is, Bedford, Donny, Ealing, you cut the schedule, too, in terms of number of games, regular season-wise, to about 20, 22, somewhere in that sweet spot. And then you had six teams that make the playoffs. And you're probably just gonna have to... Honestly, you probably have to go straight up standings, but that's how it is. And then eight... I will live with a 14-team league and eight teams making...
00:26:18
Speaker
champions cup. I will, I will, I will compromise with that. So I think that is one model that could, could work going forward. So I think we've there, we've just solved, solved all your problems PRL. So come get us, but also have something like a Sunday night football, like Saturday night, every, you know, right. The two, the two, you know, the matches that we see and it like,
00:26:39
Speaker
You know what, dinnertime? Like maybe 7 p.m. That is what I think. I think a 12 because Premier really has a 1230 game on Saturday and that's like usually that's usually a big game. Yeah. You know, it's it's it's definitely usually one of the big ones. So I think similar.
00:26:56
Speaker
you know, 12, 12, one o'clock somewhere in that neighborhood. Not too, I think going on the earlier side is better because you still want the kids to be able to go. You still want families to be able to go and not be too late. So like start at like 7pm or so. Don't have it be, don't have everything be at 10 o'clock window. Right.
00:27:14
Speaker
So it's like, yeah, and it isolates one match. And like you said, with the Sunday Night Football, where they, you know, the league flexes, they make it a high, you know, high profile match. Like you want, like, and that used to be Monday Night Football. It used to be like, Oh, you got to play on Monday Night. Your team got to play on Monday Night Football. Everybody in the country is watching your team play. And, and that was a big thing. And that was also free. Like they did the free to air special games. So.
00:27:41
Speaker
And it worked. It's it's huge. And rugby needs to. You know, that's how you create the mystique. That's how you create these moments that that that that. That everybody watches, everybody sees and everybody talks about. Right. You know, that's exactly what they do. So to your point, to your point, when did OBJ break Twitter? Oh, fuck with that catch. It was Sunday night, wasn't it? It was it was it was either Sunday night or Monday night. I think it was Sunday.
00:28:10
Speaker
It was a Sunday night game in Dallas or against Dallas. It doesn't matter. Right. Antonio Freeman before the Twitters when everybody saw that. Yes, I remember that one. I had a friend that was a Vikings fan and they were so pissed. I thought you'd like that one. That was a good one. Yep. You did what? These moments are made like you know the call. You know the call. Yeah. Right. Like that's as much of the moment as anything. Yep. Agreed.
00:28:42
Speaker
Those don't just happen. They don't happen at a fucking 10am or 10am start game. Nobody gives a shit about the early games. You can have all the highlights, you see them, whatever. It's that one match that everybody's... Or the one game in football where everybody's like, oh, this match. You play big on this game and it matters. You're making yourself your next contract. All sorts of shit. You're getting endorsement deals.
00:29:05
Speaker
This is what creates the stars is the spectacle, create this, create the spectacle. It's right there. The game is right there. Yes. Yeah. And and they and we'll we'll wrap this up as as brief as we can here.
00:29:19
Speaker
And they hit on the youth. And I'm sorry, the youth isn't necessarily about entertainment. They want fantasy sports. Every fucking kid plays the fantasy Premier League. They play fantasy football. They play fantasy basketball. Not so much baseball. But point being, those games are played by kids because they see it as their chance to put their favorite players together. Whether or not it makes fucking sense is a different story.
00:29:48
Speaker
That's still what they love about it. So, you know, and shit, that's what I did when I was a kid. I was like, at this point, it's a fucking hobby. It's super passive, too. It's not that hard. It's not super hard. I mean, unless you're nerds like you and I, it's pretty fucking passive. It's like, yeah.
00:30:03
Speaker
Well, like, geez, I do our Wankball League and I don't watch the game. So but you don't and you don't even have to because all the information is right there. Like we're nerds because we're like, I'm I'm mad because all the shit that I'm used to with fantasy football, all those amenities, none of them are present for rugby. So it's like, all right, let's just make it. Fuck right. Somebody's got it. Like I'll do it myself. Fuck you. Fuck you. I'll do it myself. But that's still like, again, then we get back to the stats and the stuff we've gone over before, like you make the stats.
00:30:33
Speaker
available sacred and you make them available and you make them something that that you know the point of achievement and they've been and they're not available. Premiership does highlight certain aspects of the stats but you need to make them more available you need to make beyond top five top ten you need to make everybody know like
00:30:52
Speaker
you know, where is my favorite player in meters game? Where is my favorite, you know, blanker or midfielder in terms of tackles like, right, that stuff, you know, we got you and I were gushing over the free jacks guys that were all top five and tackles like, that's the type of shit you want. Right.
00:31:09
Speaker
So just take note. We have all your problems over here. PRL. Yeah. It's fine. It's right in front of you. So all this, this is what we want to do. Okay. Well, here, if two fucking knuckleheads like Jared and I can see this shit, how do you not see it? Where the hell you been? Right. Wake the fuck up.
00:31:28
Speaker
So it's almost like they don't want like they would rather be like, oh, we're in the struggle. We're still up with it. Chip, chip. Yeah. Some people just love to talk about the struggle. It's like, shut up. Just stop. Let it go and just do the thing. It's right there.
00:31:41
Speaker
True story. I apologize to all my England haters right now who are mad at me for what I just said. That was a really bad impression of English attitude, but whatever. I'm American. They know you suck at it, so it's okay. They're aware of it. I have a lot worse to say about our country, so. Yeah, no kidding. Same here. Same. Putting it all in the perspective.
00:32:09
Speaker
All right, let's jump into the opening weekend.
Exeter vs Leicester Match Review
00:32:13
Speaker
So we'll go to Candy Crack, Sandy Park, Exeter and Lester. We'll get this out of the way. Unfortunately, it seems Exeter is still a bunch of racist motherfuckers despite the logo change.
00:32:27
Speaker
Yeah, you're always going to have the people who are who are there was a point where a lot of the stadium was doing it, unfortunately. And that's really sad to hear. So I got I got a little pissy with that one. I was like, oh, fuck you guys. Anyway, but to the Rutgers, it wasn't an especially, you know, entertaining match for the most part. But this is kind of what we're used to with Exeter. And turns out what they do. Right.
00:32:56
Speaker
So it was kind of a, ooh, hello moment to wake everybody up. And obviously they, they beat the champions. So that's, that's a huge landmark in some ways. Yeah, you beat the champions, but it's not the same team and especially this team. Like, so, so here's my thought coming into this is that this is a match that Exeter needed to win a lot more than Lester did. Um,
00:33:23
Speaker
just, you know, Lester don't have their A side. I mean, they don't have Freddie Burns. We love Freddie Burns on the pod. Don't get us wrong.
00:33:37
Speaker
It's a shadow of Freddie Burns that we're used to seeing at this point. And it's not bad. He's not in like Roethlisberger territory where you're just like, this guy can't do it. No, he can play. I mean, he was a fly half for the championship and won the match. So he can do it.
00:33:54
Speaker
But at the same time, you know, again, that was a championship match where he's going to step the fuck up. This is a week one match. And it was very much week one all around. But especially in this. And yeah, so the team that really needed it and wanted it more won. Yeah, I thought, yeah, the rugby wasn't so great, but I honestly good on Exeter for winning it because they really needed to.
00:34:20
Speaker
also not the most impressive way, because, you know, no Genge, no...
00:34:25
Speaker
You know, the real fly. Yeah, the fly half isn't the international quality. You know, Jasper's away right now as well. Right. Right. Toy is away. Mm hmm. So this is a little bit and I know actually, but yeah, Nick Dolly's heard that sucks. He'll be up a little while longer, unfortunately. Yeah. But the selections didn't make sense for I mean, you still fucking dealt with Diddy and went and get 80 minutes. Yes. What the fuck? I mean, come on. Yeah. Kata came off her. Why?
00:34:55
Speaker
I got it was excellent. That was, I was, that was impressive. That try was good. Yeah. And it was like, you know, I still, I still don't know what the hell people see in Jack Knoll. No shocker there. I mean, I saw him on the lineup. I didn't really see him on the pitch. He didn't do a whole lot.
00:35:15
Speaker
Capstick, very ordinary, unfortunately. And he's my guy. And that sucks. He's our guy. Yeah. But we both like him and he was not. Very ordinary. So, yeah. When it feels like dumbass Dave is making a huge impact on the game, you know it's gone wrong. Yeah. And I didn't even think he was, but he was around. Shickerling, I thought, this kid. Helmet.
00:35:40
Speaker
I don't like him. I'm not a fan. He puts up big tries. That's because of the team he's playing in, honestly. I think he's a complete buffoon. Like, nope, pass. Hard pass. Him touring with England this summer was stupid. But while we're on props,
00:36:05
Speaker
Dan collection had a pretty good day. All things considered. All things considered. Assisted on the Leibnberg try and charged down the kick on top of it and had the way with all to gather it and get rid of it. So I credit to him.
00:36:22
Speaker
not going to be back in the England team anytime today, but certainly a huge piece of what Steve Barthwick is trying to do with this team. And one thing I'll throw out there, and when I mentioned it in my column, not a huge fan of this guy by any means whatsoever, but George Martin was all over the place in terms of defense. So I got to give him props and just say, all right, if you keep turning into that type of performance and you start to do other things on top of it,
00:36:51
Speaker
All right, now you're definitely international worthy. So we'll see what happens. We'll see that. All right. Jumping around. Not that I was a pain. We'll go over to Community Stadium over in Brentford, the G-Tech. I don't like that name. That's stupid. But anyway, I'm just going to call it Brentford anyway.
Worcester vs London Irish Highlights
00:37:13
Speaker
Barnes, he had the whistle. And it was a nice reception for Worcester from the Lin and Irish supporters, which was great to see. You know, it's good to see that everybody recognizes what this club is going through. And so I was just really pleased to see that in terms of, you know, just general support that these guys really need. So I enjoyed it. It was a good hearted moment for me. That's for sure.
00:37:42
Speaker
And then the game happened and things went kind of sideways. Yeah. I mean, like I said, when we were talking about Worcester, like you got to score tries. They, there was a time where they had, had like multiple entries into the 22 and like not a point. And it was, if I remember correctly, yeah, no. Cause like, um,
00:38:05
Speaker
what's his name? Shilcock got down there pretty early and then turned it over. It was just like that same business, trying to do too much. Like, yeah, he tries to get up and reset and then gets called for holding on because the ruck was already there and all he had to do was fucking chill out and they would have kept going. They always, they're trying too hard to score tries rather than letting it happen. And fuck, it's annoying. And I didn't watch past half because I was like, oh, it's,
00:38:33
Speaker
This game's over. It's like, I mean, it was like 19, nothing. And I'm like, no, they're not. They don't have 19. Worcester don't have 19 points in them. So no, that's not really the thing. Um, show clock did get one over in the, at the end of the game. Um, yeah, it was really just, it was really just the, the, the, the London Irish show for a little while. Um,
00:38:55
Speaker
Harry Arendelle came on and scored two tries in 33 minutes or something like that. Like, absolutely absurd. Absolutely absurd. It's like, okay, this is why he toured. And we saw it, obviously, when he scored for England against Australia as well, and that he was the first test he scored in.
00:39:13
Speaker
Yeah, let's be honest. Ben, Ben Donald scoring the opening try this game. That game's over. It's like, oh, Ben Donald scoring in the sketch batch. OK, it's going to be that kind of, you know, I see where we're going here. Yeah.
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah. So I mean, of all the people who can score tries on the team and who did, I mean, fuck Hassell Collins. Will Joseph got one over? Yeah. Are dealt with to Ben White is a is good and creepy score. Yeah. OK. All of those people score and tries. Yes. OK. You got the Ben Donald scoring. No, you got no. You folks. Yeah.
00:39:46
Speaker
Um, I thought so for me personally, um, two guys that kind of stood out in terms of just making stupid plays for Worcester. And I'm sure this was somewhat down to emotion was Joe Batley and their quote unquote new captain, Cameron Neil, that I don't get white.
00:40:02
Speaker
I don't know. I have a problem with Dimes, him as captain. Well, you know, I know I understand Hills out, but like Mac of Essex, you're one of the like heart and soul guys. Yeah. Why wouldn't you name him as the captain? Right. And Neil isn't good. No, he was just falling all over the ball, left and right. And then he then he got. Yeah. Started yelling at Barnes. He was like, no, that's not the thing to do, buddy. Right. Not going to do that. You're not going to win that.
00:40:29
Speaker
Nope. Especially against Barnzy. Right. Give me a break. Give me a break. I don't know why you'd make him a captain of that team. He's a new signing. You don't bring somebody in. In this situation, you got to know better. So this is where, as much as Diamond made himself a sympathetic figure recently, no, fuck him. That's unhelpful there. This is where you have the wrong coach.
00:40:58
Speaker
Yeah, poor, very poor. Let's go to the team. Newcastle match. Holy shit. Yeah, this match was everywhere. For all money, I thought freaking Newcastle had this actually. Right. And they totally bottled it. Yeah, they did. Totally. Well, OK, I don't know if they bottled it or if Harlequin's just decided because I thought Harlequin was walking for
Quins vs Newcastle Game Analysis
00:41:22
Speaker
a little bit.
00:41:22
Speaker
And then it was like, oh, wait, you know, we can get over and Radwan goes for his run. And then, OK, I think once once Nathan Earl scored, I think Tyler Goodes are like, fuck, OK, no, like nothing against Nathan Earl. But like this is probably his first try in like five years or something like that. So it's been about. Yeah.
00:41:44
Speaker
Like, that's when you got to be like, oh, OK, Nathan Earl is popping it. Like, it's kind of like the Ben Donald thing. Like, oh, wait, no, we're in this situation. Fuck no. This ain't happening. Right. Right. Yeah. Lockerbie will pull a fellow. Yeah. Well, right. Much of the crowd's delight. The crowd loved him. He they he's a little guy. He's even mature when he came in. Like, yeah. And then let alone when he scored. He also might be done at the end of this year. Yeah, probably. Which wouldn't shock me in any way.
00:42:14
Speaker
there. And we said we talked, you know, unfortunately, in terms of like, you know, the fantasy game and such, anyway, that picked a back three player for Quinn's usually does well. Well, if you pick Kaden Merle, you pick the wrong one because the other two had days. Right. That's the entire green.
00:42:32
Speaker
Yeah. That's the. But you have to take that chance, honestly. Right. Right. One of them is not going to have a day. Right. That's what happens. There's only there's only enough ball for two of them. Well, there's a ball for three of them, but it's just the two of them are going to go off. Well, Anyanwook took the other one. So we did all that. I mean, literally coast to coast. Yeah. Just the hard way.
00:42:54
Speaker
Definitely the hard way, but, hey, he got it done. I was like, oh, yay. So so so the quints have Luke Northmore. They have Joe Martian and they have Andre Esterhazen. That's not fair. That's not fair. That was. Yeah, this. I mean, they, you know, and then they also have, you know, Dom Brent and Kenningham and yeah, wev. And like it just goes on. Yeah.
00:43:21
Speaker
Yeah, it's Wilco Lowe, who's apparently now he's back in form. BB-8 is active again. Two balls on top of each other, the head and the body. One person I want to point out for the sake of Newcastle was the guy that started at Scrum App, Josh Barton. I thought he performed very, very well and showed some good quality.
00:43:43
Speaker
Hopefully this means the end of Mickey Young because I see nothing beneficial about continuing to play this guy. Honestly, you know, he can bring the pups along and wipe their noses, but that is about the most use he's going to be right now. So especially where you have a problem at 10 where you don't have anybody super high quality.
00:44:00
Speaker
Yeah, let's have let's let the quality show out in one of the halfbacks, at least where you have three viable options in most people's opinion with telemedi. This kid and then Sam Stewart, I don't think Sam Stewart's healthy right now. But point being, you have quality options. Don't bring in a non quality option when you have, you know, Brett Connan and Chien Schumann, who
00:44:24
Speaker
Neither is going to light the earth on fire by any means. Right. So you got to just, you know, let's play the kids that are shining well and not worry about, you know, hurting feelings at the moment, especially if you're Newcastle and you want to get somewhere away from the bottom. It's just a shame that they're. Yeah, the shame of their best 10 is now with wild and not going to play there. So I don't get it. I don't get that move.
00:44:47
Speaker
He was obviously, I would say he's probably annoyed about something. That'd be my guess. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That'd be my wild shot in the dark. Um, we won't be able to talk about this much. Oh yeah, but Adam Radwin is also very good. Yeah, that helps. That definitely helps. I think. And so is George McWiggin. Yeah. Who put you over. Keeping Blomire out of the front row, out in the back row right now. And I thought Blomire showed pretty well. He did. So, fuck.
00:45:17
Speaker
Not bad in a pinch. Not bad at all. So, yeah, I'm sorry for gushing over Quins as much as I did, but no, Newcastle definitely deserve a shout because, yeah, I thought they were going to win for a while there. Same. Yeah, let's jump over to Ashton Gate and
00:45:39
Speaker
Not much we can really get over, get into about this because obviously we didn't watch it. Yeah. Um, we know some of the things that happened. Obviously yellow's gun. Again, happens. Thought would happen. Um, there was a bit of a brouhaha on the sideline in which nylon that started his bath career by getting red charted without seeing a minute on the field. That's not really how you endear yourself to fans so much. That'll, that'll sting and he's, and he's going to be out for at least another game. So.
00:46:07
Speaker
Yeah. But I think in a match like this, you kind of, you don't be might into yourself. You're not, you know, you're going to, you're going to, Oh yeah. The red card's not good, but, um, the, uh, the whole, like, you know, I'm sticking up for my team against the bears. Yeah. That, that, that it's one of those, like, you shouldn't have done that, but good on you kid kind of thing. Yeah.
00:46:28
Speaker
Yeah, you stuck it to was not your brightest move, but no, not not smart in general. No, not not not like, here's my question, because we've seen this before. We saw Joe Marlar get sent off from the from the touch line. I don't remember if that
00:46:47
Speaker
caused, so did Bath have to go down a man? Or is that just a red, like he can't play? He's off. He can't play because he's been sent from the bin. He's never appeared on the field. So I think it's okay. Because I remember this happened, Saracen's against Exeter, if I remember right. They didn't lose a player, but this player also got suspended. So that's being really the consequence of it is you're not allowed to come in. So if Exeter had a problem in the front row,
00:47:16
Speaker
Yeah, they would have been fucked. So same with bath. If they had gotten a problem. Yes. Same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Dunn had to play 80. That's just how that landed. Although he can do that. So it's ultimately not the end of the world. No.
00:47:30
Speaker
Although that haircut cannot play 80. I'm sorry. I cannot wait. It's like what supposed to be cut soon for charity. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think it's around this time in October. So I hope so. I love you done. But God damn, that is some barf somebody threw up on the back of his head. So and then, of course, our boy A.J kicks the winner after of course, he does over try.
00:47:56
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think Sheedy did himself any favors now that AJ McGinty's in town. It sounds like he didn't necessarily play particularly well. Plus he got binned, which was stupid. Right, in the same, you know, same vintage that got him. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup.
00:48:24
Speaker
Let's head over to King's home.
Gloucester vs Wasps and Scrum-half Debates
00:48:26
Speaker
Yup.
00:48:26
Speaker
This was a game match on Sunday. God damn, we were entertained. Only points were scored at one end. If you were on the other end of the pitch, you never saw a point. You never saw anything happen in your tries. Field was tilted a little bit. Yeah. Still a wee bit. Yeah. I mean, was came out firing and, you know, they've had their own problems in the off season, obviously. So good to see them kind of just shake it off and come out with some gusto.
00:48:55
Speaker
Charlie Atkinson might have just claimed that 10 shirt because right now it is completely, in my opinion, it is really up for grabs at wasp. Jacob Mubaga has not done enough to claim that 10 shirt. Will Hadenwood obviously came here with a point to prove. So he's there. And Charlie Atkinson was there 10 riding out the end of the year last year. So lots to claim just for all three of these guys. And right now Atkinson's the front runner. So, and with good reason.
00:49:25
Speaker
Right. And I really want to see Umagga at 15 there because I thought he played excellent at 15 with with Atkinson at 10. So I I can't wait to to get that out. I'm not sure why that we're not going to see that for a little bit. Nice. I think he's got a calf problem. Umagga does. Well, then that's why we're not going to see that. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully better by next month. Because like I thought Joseph, you know, going back to that, Joe Simmons, I thought played really well from 15. Yes, I agree. I agree with that.
00:49:55
Speaker
I totally agree with that. And then ordered the burger.
00:50:03
Speaker
Burgermeistermeisterburger. Yeah. And, you know, not a not a known entity to you or I and not necessarily to a lot of people that are premiership fans, but anybody that's been watching the Blue Bulls will tell you that he's been doing it and he showed it. And, you know, certainly worth the billing coming in now, at least for now. But, you know, damn, that was pretty good. Just the same. So I give him give him loads of credit for coming in and trying to stand in certain shoes, you know,
00:50:31
Speaker
There's this guy. He's really fast. I don't know if you've heard of him, Lewis. Oh, my God. And you and I, you and I were saying like.
00:50:50
Speaker
Is he well? He got caught. Yeah, he got caught. I hope he's all right. I couldn't believe it. I was like, how the hell did he get caught? Usually, they're all running towards the tri-line, but he's getting further away from the other guys, which is the opposite. He knew that was happening and still didn't hit that next gear, so I hope he's okay.
00:51:16
Speaker
Maybe he's like, this is week one. I'm not going to have some of the gas for later. Yeah. The gas don't need down the line. So and he didn't need it for that. He was. Yeah, obviously he scored anyway. So yeah, just just absolutely coasting. Absolutely crazy. Freddie Clark is still putting his hand up. Yeah, I still I still love Freddie Clark. You're not going to get me to say otherwise right now for for Gloucester.
00:51:41
Speaker
I'm overbend me in. I have to say I'm overbend me in. I don't really love a lot of his game. Everybody's like, well, he can kick with two feet. Honestly, if that's his best asset right now, it's not enough for me. I think Varney's hurt. So that's probably, and I know skips has got a crush on this kid and I know he brought him over from London Irish and I get that.
00:52:04
Speaker
somebody's got to slap him in the face and be like skips. We have better. Chapman definitely needs to start, number one. Yeah. And I think Varney's better. Yes, he is. I could be nuts, but I really think he is. Yes. No, you're not nuts. He is.
00:52:19
Speaker
So yeah, I'm overbend me in, you know, there are other clubs that could probably use, you know, some sort of halfback, you know, reserve. I think you get two really good ones with Varney and Chapman. So should they both be healthy? They should both be in the team, me and be nowhere. Put it this way. Chapman and Varney should be starting for Gloucester. They are starting in the reserve. That's your one-two punch right there.
00:52:45
Speaker
And yet me and should be starting for Saracens. Right. Anyway, that's just my bitch about Saracens. Anyway, because we're not going to talk like, yeah, they got out there on by. So, yeah, nothing to talk about. So it's the biggest comeback about Saracens. It's the biggest comeback for Gloucester ever, I believe they said. And that is like, holy shit moments. Twenty seven on each of points.
00:53:13
Speaker
Lee Black, it's going to be real fucking pissed. I can tell you that much right now. Of course he is. Of course he is. He's going to be given the two yellows back to back. Unhelpful in so many ways. Right. Because like the first yellow. Yes, that had to come. And then the second yellow had to come because it was it was a clear, clear.
00:53:31
Speaker
like, you know, scoring opportunity and, and, and, yeah, you fucked it up, but no choice, zero choice. And I have to get it. So we were talking about, we, we've talked about some, some.
00:53:44
Speaker
up and coming refs that we kind of like don't have any time for anymore. I thought Anthony Woodthorpe did very well in this game. I did too. I don't have anything bad to say about him and I'm sure both teams have something bad to say about him. But from a neutral side, I don't have a lot bad to say about them. And I can't say that about some of the other ones like Ridley, Ike had problems with this weekend. We know CMK is not our favorite referee.
00:54:09
Speaker
Well, yeah, I think I think we can use a few more games and see what he does. Maybe he talks one. OK, but I'd like to see what we do because we have some we have some referees that need replacing in this league. They also need to they need to tell. So here's the other thing about, you know, tying this match in back in with our points earlier about growing the game. You cannot have Austin Healy whining and moaning about every
00:54:39
Speaker
goddamn call by an official or play or this or that and expect the game to grow. All he does is mourn things and whine about them. That's not going to get butts in the seats. All that's going to do is be like, wow, this league must suck if everything they do is wrong and everything the refs do is wrong. No, you can't do that.
00:55:01
Speaker
And so, yeah, Healy's got, and his performance was bad, because this young ref needs support. And all Austin Healy did in the first half was second guess every decision he made. And that's, it's so bad for the product. You want to talk about having a good product, it's bad for it. Yeah, not unhelpful. Okay. And not, we can't lose sight of the facts, no pun intended on that one, of as much as all that is the problem.
00:55:32
Speaker
Holy kit, no kit, wasps. I did not, it took, I didn't, for the whole match, I was like, I don't get who this team is. Like, it's not wasps. Like, who is, like, I couldn't recognize players. I couldn't recognize what they were. Cause I was like, Oh no, put those away and no.
00:55:52
Speaker
It's not you. Like, seriously, it's a good kit overall, but it's not Wasp's kit. No, probably not. Yeah. We can find somebody else. I kept thinking I was watching like Wooster or something. Right. Right. Because I was like, it can't be Wasp. It's got to be Wooster. It's like the ones that freaking Tigers were wearing a couple of years ago. It looked like a pack of food strike gum just exploded all over it. Yeah. I was like, what is this? Yeah. Change now.
00:56:20
Speaker
Harlequins with like the looks like they're bleeding down their belly. Oh, man This was this but it wasn't very entertaining game overall, you know, just kind of turn your volume down a little bit And then the game we just another game we couldn't watch and so with well now that we've got to this I do And I don't and I don't have all the
00:56:49
Speaker
knowledge of the situation. And I understand there's certain respects to be paid to the Queen's death, but at the same time, like is a day or two really that much different than playing it on Friday night and then actually being able to one, let everybody attend that was planning on attending and to broadcast it in three, have a TMO at both of them, like
Impact of Postponed Games on Viewership
00:57:11
Speaker
All those things like you you've taken a situation that was Okay, and you got a green light from what I understand they got a green light from the government to do as they saw fit, right? So if they were gonna play and do the the you know Then they did the the minute silence and the yeah, you know, so a bit of an applause in the anthem And the black armbands on many teams I don't and I
00:57:37
Speaker
At no point did any of those feel disrespectful. So why was it different would have been different on Friday night. If somebody, honestly, if somebody wants to explain that to me, I'd love to hear it because I don't understand it. I literally don't understand it because you've made what would have been a fine situation worse in terms of the game. Right. You know, I would have loved to watch both these games, honestly, because it sounded like saints decided to pull their head out of their ass after half, after Furbank came on, really. Um,
00:58:07
Speaker
And it's because the guy we're discussing who's, you know, has been on a bit of a cold streak. Right. And he got part of it anyway, too. So that was also not helpful. But, you know, and then and obviously the bath Bristol game came down to the death. So, you know, it would have been much better to see these games. You want to talk about growing the game. This is a problem. I think it's only two games, but damn, not only that, but with with the, you know, Premier League.
00:58:32
Speaker
already say, but they cut out and every like the reaction was like, what the fuck are you doing? Yes, it was. It was mostly a reaction to that. And, and prep the prim rugby made their decision after that. And it's like, Whoa, you took the temperature there and saw that it was not good. And you said, Okay, well, we'll just postpone that. No, just don't postpone. They just go out there. You can be the sport that pays tribute to the queen.
00:59:00
Speaker
First, like your first opportunity, go out there and be like, this is what we're doing. You know, we're paying our respects. I mean, does everybody said it's no it's not disrespectful. She was 96. Like everybody's like, how many times this for the last year, did you hear reports? You're like, oh, she's probably she's it's it's over. Right. And it's like we're ready for it.
00:59:22
Speaker
This isn't a thing. You know, this is it's going to happen. It's it's it's not a you know, it's it's imminent for the past. A heart attack at 60. You know, it's very different. Exactly. I mean, so just sad, but different. Right. Right. Right. But like it's not shocking and it's not earth shattering. It's it's, you know, respectful, mournful.
00:59:46
Speaker
celebrate her life and her achievements. Whatever you think of the monarchy, I'm not trying to be pro it, but I'm just saying, to respect it, you respect it. But you do what's right for the game ultimately, especially with the Worcester and the straights that they're in.
01:00:04
Speaker
Like they needed to play the financially, they need it and they need to broadcast it. They need to get the money from the broadcast. So, and the engagement, as you said, yes. CEO or whatever you are. Chief executive. Yeah. Um, so, but the game in sale was, was a game for only about 20 minutes. Cause they have to decide to pull their heads out of their bums. Um, Collins got one right at the end to kind of make it more interesting, but, and give them their bonus point.
01:00:33
Speaker
But it sounds like they just never really got out of their own way. Sale, what was the team stats here? Possession was more in favor of the Saints. They just didn't do anything with it, it sounds like. The only nine clean breaks for sale had 10.
01:00:52
Speaker
Um, yeah, that's, if you're matching, if sales matching North Hampton, something went wrong with North Hampton. So these statistics don't make sense. Okay. And only nine clean breaks. All right. 29 defenders beaten. So you beat 29 players and didn't get a clean break, which means you just dodged one person got tackled by another 20 offloads. How do you have 29 defenders beaten 20 offloads, nine clean breaks.
01:01:18
Speaker
How? And not get out of your own goddamn way until what, the 65th minute or something like that? Yep. 65th minute is when Tom Collins scored. Where's, I can't, I don't know, there's handling statistics. I don't see any of that. Nope. We had the SCOS and yellow card, which was obviously unhelpful in a lot of ways. But yeah, let's see, more stats to do. That's not helpful either. Seven scrums. So there were seven.
01:01:47
Speaker
You know, seven, eight scrums that you gave up. So not too many handling errors and then line outs were even as well. So yeah, one line outs were completely even 11 and three for both teams, seven and seven scrums, one, one and two scrums law. Like, so there's not, it's not an ordinary number of like handling errors and shit. You're just fucking, they just spit it. And so it is honestly, but yes.
01:02:15
Speaker
What did you do? What did you do? I was thinking, what was it? Tommy boy. What did you do? Yeah, it was it. So overall, I think
01:02:31
Speaker
a bit of a saints lost it and sales didn't necessarily win it. Although, you know, you got to score the tries and they did score tries. I guess score four of them. So, right. Correct to them and shit. Same type of temperature tech. Sam James fucking scored. Well, yeah, there it is again. There's that as well. So when that starts happening, it needs to be a red flag like what? And and Gus War.
01:02:55
Speaker
Oh, I have more credit for Gus Warr than I do Sam James. Like Luke James and Tom O'Flaherty. Yeah, actually. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. I'm glad for Flats to define that pay dirt on his first outing with the new team. Yep. I agree. Especially with, you know, again, I bet we didn't see the match. So I can't tell how he played, but Rob Dupree at 10.
01:03:22
Speaker
This is the fact that Luke James and O'Flaherty scored. All right. Move the ball somewhere.
01:03:29
Speaker
Yeah, obviously he was doing something. So I think I'm actually trying to pick up Sam James in one of our leagues. I'm that desperate for midfielders. Godspeed, bro. He scored. He scored one. Maybe he can do it again. Oh, boy. Oh, and they're playing back this weekend. So that's why I think they are. That's a little different. Yeah, that might change a few things here and there. All right. Well, that's week one.
01:04:00
Speaker
Hooray. Whoo. We did it. It was it was a week one. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully this is the last week we get too much of the bullshit with and we can start just, you know, finding ways to better rugby and all that and all that good stuff.
01:04:17
Speaker
Alright, cool. So we are going to head over to fancy time here, fancy corner. If this is where we leave you, we appreciate you hanging out with us. We will be back next week as usual. But if you guys see us over at the fancy corner, we'll see you over there. Until then, we'll catch you guys next time. Have a good one, everybody. Later.