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5. Silent Sabotage: Social Media’s Hidden Effects on Your Healing Journey

S1 E5 · Spiraling Together: A Mother-Daughter Healing Journey
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In this eye-opening episode of Spiraling Together: A Mother-Daughter Healing Journey, we uncover the subtle but powerful ways social media can hinder your healing process. "Silent Sabotage: Social Media’s Hidden Effects on Your Healing Journey" dives deep into the psychological impacts of constant online engagement, from comparison culture and FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) to the emotional toll and negative interactions.

Join us as we explore and help you navigate and mitigate these hidden effects:

  1. Awareness and Acknowledgment: Learn to recognize the negative impact of social media on your mental health and identify your triggers and patterns.
  2. Mindful Usage and Boundaries: Discover strategies for mindful consumption, set healthy boundaries, and curate your online environment to support your well-being.
  3. Digital Detox and Alternative Healing Practices: Understand the benefits of taking a break from social media and explore alternative healing practices like mindfulness, physical activities, and creative outlets.

Through real-life examples, expert insights, and practical tips, this episode equips you with the tools to reclaim your healing journey from the grip of social media. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed by online interactions or simply looking to foster a healthier relationship with technology, this episode offers valuable guidance to help you heal and thrive.

Tune in now to start reclaiming your healing journey from social media’s silent sabotage!

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Introduction and Podcast Mission

00:00:04
Speaker
Aloha, friends. Welcome to Spiraling Together, a mother-daughter healing journey. I'm the daughter, Chloe, and I'm the mother, Valerie. Our mission is to create a safe, nurturing space where mothers and daughters can begin a journey of healing and empowerment together. Through heartfelt conversations, shared experiences, and our personal insights, we aim to foster deeper connections, strengthen bonds, and inspire growth. Before we dive into today's conversation, we want to take a moment to express our heartfelt thanks to all of you who are tuning in. Your willingness to expand and grow with us inspires us each day, and we are honored to have you as part of our community. If you haven't already, please check out our links below and follow us on your favorite platforms so you never miss an episode. Let's get ready to unravel the spiral. Together.

Episode Title Reveal: 'Silent Sabotage'

00:01:01
Speaker
Howdy, everybody. We are back. This is Spiraling Together, a mother-daughter healing journey. We're on episode five.

Reflecting on Self-Love

00:01:10
Speaker
The title of today's episode is Silent Sabotage, Social Media's Hidden Effects on Your Healing Journey. Ooh, it's gonna be a pretty pretty wild episode. But before we get into it, we did want to ask if you guys were here last week. Our episode was on self-love and we were wondering if anybody
00:01:38
Speaker
took any of our suggestions or if it made an impact for you to start your self-love healing journey, we'd love to know in the comments. Yes. And just know that it is a daily practice. All of this healing is a daily practice. Yes. I also want to ask you, is there anything new that you've been doing recently as a practice? well so in the process of slowing down even more it's not necessarily something that it's i've been baking sourdough bread finally i really did not want to do that but well
00:02:33
Speaker
Well, cause you know, we live on a farm and there's a lot, there's a lot of things that since we've been here, it's like, I've tried so many things and we have a lot of plants and trees and animals and flowers and plants and all the things. And, um, I really had to scale back a little bit and figure out what I really enjoyed so that I wasn't constantly doing. Hmm. And I know the sourdough is doing something, but it's like ah it's a process and it really helps me like stay in the house. And on those days where I'm doing my stretch and folds and all of that, I'm just kind of in between relaxing and I have my hands in the dough and it just gives me a different kind of connection.
00:03:17
Speaker
Yeah, and I would say for those who don't know how to make sourdough, it's a pretty lengthy process. It's a process. I just think it's one of those things as far as self-love goes that I know that I'm putting something into my body that is literally just water and organic flour and salt. And the process takes long, but I'm not having to put a lot of preservatives into my body or even go to the store to do it. So there's kind of like a ah balance, I guess.

Social Media's Dual Nature

00:03:50
Speaker
It takes long, yeah but it's good for my gut. And it's delicious. yeah I am very grateful. You know how to make sourdough. So so that's that's a way I'm incorporating more self-love to myself and self-love to the family.
00:04:06
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Especially knowing how bad the food quality is in America. It's really awesome when you make things from scratch. Yes. Because you know exactly what's going in and it's not scary. Exactly.
00:04:24
Speaker
and I found that on social media. I finally like saw this friend of mine on TikTok that she, I don't know, it was just like, okay, I'm gonna do it finally after years of putting it off. So social media can be very beneficial because there are so many different resources and inspirations.
00:04:48
Speaker
It's really funny though, because um I was gonna say, I think, our
00:04:59
Speaker
Our... What am I trying to say? Our, um... I don't even know what I'm trying to say. Were you talking about social media? on I love it. I mean, um, well, okay. We just talked the other night and I was talking about how social media right now for me is really detrimental towards my healing journey. Okay.
00:05:32
Speaker
And so for us, I was trying to link it back to the self-love thing. That's why I was like, what am I saying? It's okay. But yeah, right now for me, social media is just not doing it. And so I'm trying to take more of a social media break. And I think I've always had like a weird relationship with social media, because a lot of the time,
00:06:00
Speaker
or it's like I would go through phases of posting stuff and then I wouldn't for a really long time. And there's there's just so many opinions, not only when your stuff is out on social media, but also of the people you're around, what they post, et cetera, et cetera. It's like really There's so much controversy with social media. And it's really difficult to find the people that you want to consume their media from, not just family and friends. It's just a hard topic. It's very vast and is in our faces every day. And you're right. it's

Impact of Social Media Metrics

00:06:57
Speaker
There's a lot of judgments on it. There's a lot of like these pressures that we feel. Like ah I know for me, i I do create some content. You know, especially my favorite is honestly, I really love TikTok, I'm not gonna lie. That's like my favorite. i have It's interesting because I feel like the people that I have met on TikTok have supported me more than a lot of my friends and family do. And that's like a really weird feeling, right? Yeah, another thing I was gonna bring up too. It's hard to really know when people really support you cause
00:07:47
Speaker
I can admit it's like sometimes when I know someone who puts stuff out there, I'm like, whoa, what are you doing? And I know that's not right. Because it's like an ego thing. And I, I honestly think to be completely honest, there's like an ounce of jealousy there or envy, however you want to say it. And I think that's what it is for a lot of people. When you see someone you know working and putting themselves out there, part of you is like, eh, like I hope you don't make it because I don't know if I would. And I'm too scared to even try. So there's almost also that sense of like, I don't even have the confidence to put myself out there. And you're like full force, like you got it.
00:08:45
Speaker
And now look at you sweetheart. Look at what we're doing right now. It's crazy. You're putting yourself out there. We're putting ourselves out there and it's a slow process. And I think it's just one that we're, we're really committed to. And even if it takes us a long time, I know that we're, for me, it's like, I just want to make a difference in the things that I'm saying. And if we don't have a lot of support, that's okay because
00:09:21
Speaker
The people that we are impacting is what really matters. And you're right. Like it is an ego thing. Like when you go to social media and you're like, how many likes did I get? How many followers do I have? All that all doesn't truly matter when you're wanting to put content out to make a difference. Exactly. Yeah, I agree. But it still is. sometimes it's painful when you are putting it out because you don't have

Abundance Mindset vs. Competition

00:09:53
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the support and you're like it's almost it's just unmotivating I guess well you know I mean especially if like the people you care about aren't supporting you you're like damn do you like me yeah so
00:10:16
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It's kind of a hit. You take a little bit of a hit until you're like, okay, well. I'm gonna do this anyway. And maybe what you just said earlier, the way you feel when you see someone else, they're feeling that way. So now you've got that mirror that showed you. Oh, I know. Yeah, showed you that. Oh, I know. Yeah. So I really do appreciate that. you're being vulnerable with admitting like the way that you you really feel inside, because I know I've felt that way and so many people have. I mean, when you put yourself out there on social media, you are just like, it's like you're putting yourself out in this like place for the whole world to see you and you really don't know what's gonna come back to you.
00:11:06
Speaker
And I would also say on on top of that, it's this like almost competition feeling that you can have. Because you can see like mutuals doing the same thing, but you're kind of like, oh, but I hope I do better, you know. But the important thing, like I've noticed now is like, I i don't think like that anymore. And You have to become aware that, do you want to be that person? Do you want to be unsupportive? Do you want to hope that someone doesn't do as good as you?
00:11:51
Speaker
It's a very lack, hole it's a lack mindset. There's enough abundance in this universe for us all to have a million followers or for us all to do well. You know, it's an night it's abundance really. And that's part of healing in itself is supporting everyone out there that is on this journey and knowing that they're coming from the heart and wanting to make a difference and we all use our voices in a different way but when you when you're sharing your story and when you're putting yourself out there it's like good for you sister good for you brother like i am happy for you because when we can be happy for others they can be happy for us too right

Social Media Detox Experience

00:12:43
Speaker
But let's like get into the impacts of like when we spend too much time on social media. I personally, like I was saying, um I kind of go through these phases with social media where I'm like, oh yeah, let me post some stuff. oh Who's liking my stuff? ooh Who's watching my stuff? you get addicted because those likes it's a dopamine hit and it makes you happy because you feel validation yes social media is yeah the the validation from it like
00:13:35
Speaker
i Everyone loves to feel validation. You you can't say you don't, I feel like. um And a lot of the time, that's the reason why you're posting anyways. I'm not saying for everybody that's true. and But I think that plays a big role in posting, especially, you know, when when you take selfies and stuff and you we want to post those, You just posted a picture of your face. You want people to like it, you know? And then if they don't, you feel horrible about yourself. You're like, oh, am I actually ugly in this picture? Should I delete it? I've deleted stuff in my past because not a lot of people liked it.
00:14:26
Speaker
And that sucks because I think when you have enough confidence to post something, it's usually because you think that you look good and you post it and you don't get that validation. That's like crushing. It hurts. It does hurt. And also now we don't really understand the algorithms of everything. Sometimes it doesn't get pushed out. Sometimes our friends aren't on social media those days or they're taking a break from it and they don't see it or there's a whole lot of things going on but we really make it very personal. And I know for me like talking about the dopamine
00:15:07
Speaker
so I have watched myself go through these spirals of posting a whole lot because you know I'm feeling really good and I'm posting a lot and I'm just getting lots of comments and lots of feedback and lots of validation and it just feels good and it's like dopamine after dopamine after dopamine and then I finally am like whoa I have got to step away from this and get some real life chemicals Like I need to put my phone down and go outside and actually feel real. Like what but real dopamine is, what real serotonin, like all of the different chemicals, I need something else. But I've noticed that those times where I pull away, I will have like a withdrawal, I will have a literal body withdrawal. Like I will feel not right.
00:15:59
Speaker
I will feel bad if I just say I'm not touching any social media for a day. It's like a withdrawal happens. Yeah. And that's kind of scary. Because it is ridiculous.
00:16:17
Speaker
and they just keep making more of it. I mean, good gravy, like, good gravy. I don't even remember the last. Good gravy. Good gravy. What is the last? I mean, like, how many social media platforms are there? I i can't even keep up. I mean, probably at least 10. And what we're doing right now for this podcast, it's like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Well youtube YouTube and then of course there's Spotify and Apple and all of these different places and and as in their threads off of Instagram and X or whatever whatever whatever it is I mean it's there's so much and it's like I
00:16:59
Speaker
At what point is it enough? I don't. Yeah. And you have to make sure that you're putting it out. Like some people aren't on TikTok. Some people are this, some people aren't that. So you want to make sure you like how much it just takes a lot of time and energy. It really does. It is our every day now. Yeah. there There are very, very few people I know that do not have social media that I've met before. Maybe two people that I can think of off the top of my head. And I'm like, I'm proud of you. I hope you never get sucked into it. But then, because it's like, I also have those days where I'm like, I just want to delete everything.
00:17:54
Speaker
But then the hard thing is, is I'm like, well, my best friends post on social media.

Body Image and Unrealistic Standards

00:18:01
Speaker
And like, I do love seeing their stuff. It's just, then I get sucked into everything else. and it's a lot and it is a lot and then you just get stuck on it and you just like mindlessly scroll it's like brain rot you think that you're I'm just gonna go rest and then you just pick up your phone and you just mindlessly scroll scroll scroll scroll and then you're two hours later you're like
00:18:34
Speaker
What did I do? Even the other night, I like watched an episode of the TV show I was watching and then their episodes were like 40 minutes long and I was like, I should go to bed. But then I picked up my phone and I started scrolling and I scrolled for a whole hour and I was like, I could have just watched another episode and I wouldn't have just been mindlessly not even, you know, it's
00:19:04
Speaker
So let's talk about doing a social media detox or taking a break. And I, if you don't mind, I will tell a little story because I've done a couple of pretty hefty detoxes, you would I guess you would say. go for it I decided to take an entire month off social media. So a whole 30 days. And the feeling of like, oh my gosh, I'm going to take like I felt like I had to tell everyone like I made a post on all the platforms that I was taking 30 days off. And, you know, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to lose followers because I'm not posting content. And oh my gosh, like I'm going to miss out because, you know, a lot of the world, like the information we get comes from social media. I don't watch the news, but I will learn something if I'm on Facebook or anywhere else.
00:19:59
Speaker
or people post their wedding engagements they post all of their big events like that's how you know what's going on so I had that fear of like oh my gosh I'm not gonna know anything that's going on but then I was like you know what I like I really need this for myself I need to have a breather from all the information coming in or from the pressure of putting out content. I need to walk outside and not go, oh, I need my phone to take a picture of that bee in the flower so I can show the whole world, you know, this bee. I needed a break so that I could truly be present and so that I could feel what it was like not to have things inundated. And I'm going to tell you,
00:20:46
Speaker
that that month was so freeing for me. Like it felt like I had chains unlocked and taken off of me. Like I was out of a cage. Like I was flying around like a butterfly and just like not having that worry.
00:21:05
Speaker
So I highly recommend it. I mean, I know it 30 days might seem extreme. I'm kind of an extreme person. i I do the things like I go all in when I do something, but even just a day, half a day, a week, try it, see how you feel. Which we said that we were Well, I don't even know how long we said we were going to do that detox. But well, I also was like, what was that a couple of days ago? Started like noticing that social media is making me feel a certain way about my body, which is a big thing for everybody because
00:22:01
Speaker
social media is full of filters, all kinds of, you know, fitness gurus, et cetera, et cetera. And I was like, you know, I should probably just stop looking at my Instagram because
00:22:25
Speaker
I never really felt a certain like negative way about my body until more recently because I've been on Instagram more. And when your explore page starts filling up with, you know, these beautiful people that have like an i quote unquote ideal body type that society has created. And you're like, you look in the mirror and you're like, I don't see the same thing. It's aggravating. But I was like, yeah, I need to stop looking at an Instagram. And I think you hit on a really big key point that there are filters and now there's AI. And sometimes you don't even know if the person you're looking at is actually a person or not. True. I mean, there's literal AI run accounts now that they're not a person.
00:23:24
Speaker
So for us to compare ourselves to that is so unrealistic. And so it's just being able to have the knowledge and also having the awareness that if something is triggering you or if it's too much, it's okay to unfollow that account. yeah And it's also okay to to know that, yeah, we
00:23:55
Speaker
Not everyone wants to put their best self forward. When we know that there is not a single person in this world that doesn't have like a flaw on their skin somewhere or, and I don't even like to use the word flaw, but they may have a scar or cellulite or acne or any of the things like, but you can airbrush it. You can make it look perfect. Yeah. Which is.
00:24:24
Speaker
It sucks that and the people that do post and you know that do use filters, and it sucks that you feel the need to do that because eat I mean you're not I don't know it's it's not real yeah, and it isn't if like let's say you go out into public and You if you have a social media account and all you've ever done is use filters and wear makeup and put your best self forward You have to go out in the world and present yourself that way and I know for me like I'm wearing a little bit of makeup today for this me too and but like

The Role of Self-Acceptance in Healing

00:25:09
Speaker
on the daily basis out here at the farm. I don't wear makeup all the time, you know? yeah And I really try my hardest not to use filters, but man, sometimes you just look at yourself and you're like, oh, I look a little bit nicer if I just like. Yeah. I think if you have a mixture. Yeah. But a lot of people don't. They live behind that image of looking perfect all the time. um And it's it's just refreshing to see when people don't. And I think that's a that's something that we wanted to touch on was like, what kind of content are you following? What kind of content are you consuming? I know you said earlier earlier, like unfollowing the people that, you know, make you feel upset, make you feel bad about yourself.
00:26:02
Speaker
it's not that you don't support them anymore it's it's literally for your mental health it's so that you don't get stuck looking at those pictures and scrolling on that profile and looking at everything that person has that you don't because that yeah I do it. I've done it. It's hard to get out of doing that. You know, once you see that person that you think is so perfect and then you almost get obsessed with it, like, cause you don't have it and you want it, but it does make you feel bad. And I want to just say that you do have it.
00:26:51
Speaker
What you see in other people, the good parts of them, you have the same good in you. The perfect they have is the perfect in you because we truly are already perfect and we are all we are already enough exactly the way we are. So you already are all of that sweetheart.
00:27:14
Speaker
What's coming up for you? I don't know, it just makes so makes me to cry.
00:27:21
Speaker
It's just really accepting yourself and loving yourself and knowing that you are such a gift, that you are already everything. You're absolutely, you're not just gorgeous physically, but you're gorgeous on the inside. Thanks. Yeah. And I and just love you so much. too And I love that you're showing up here and being vulnerable. I just want to say that I know that a lot of you, if you've watched our episodes, Chloe, she used to not cry. Like she wouldn't she wouldn't cry.
00:28:10
Speaker
she would hold everything in. And part of this healing process is feeling it and allowing the tears to come out because when we hold them in, that's where we get stuck,

Morning Routine Without Social Media

00:28:24
Speaker
right? Yeah. It's not healthy. It doesn't feel good. Yeah. And so this is just doing so much healing, voicing these things that have probably been stuck inside.
00:28:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. So you never know what's gonna come up on an episode.
00:28:48
Speaker
I mean, I think this topic specifically right now for me is just, it's in your reality. i Social media has been sabotaging my healing journey. So it's a big thing right now for me. And I'm here to support you. And that's, I think that's why we said in the mornings, instead of grabbing our phones first and going directly into social media, which I know I've been guilty of a million times, we do something else for ourselves first. We don't let the whole world come into our reality first thing in the morning before we take care of ourselves. Yeah.
00:29:35
Speaker
because that can lead you on a spiral first thing in the morning. spiral Yeah. and And we don't, I, yeah, I, first thing in the morning, if I pick up my phone and so I start doing stuff, there's been times where I've like, like I woke up at six 30 in the morning and oh my gosh, it's like nine and I'm still scrolling through. I'm like, what in the heck? I mean, you know, what have I done for myself?
00:30:05
Speaker
Yeah. So I'm here for you, honey. Thank you. but's believe that Even though now you're now technically we have to have them, but that can be another topic of if you are creating content, maybe the creation is what's important at this time and not the consumption so

Creating Content vs. Consuming

00:30:26
Speaker
much of it. Yeah. I'm having a lot more fun. like making the aesthetics of everything and figuring out the kinks of how everything goes on every platform. Yeah. It's it's interesting. Because I'm like, I feel like, well, I'm 22. I'm like, I should know this stuff. And it's a learning curve. There's a lot to it. And it's changing also. It's always changing, social media. It's been changing.
00:31:00
Speaker
So thank you for all of the things that you've been doing for our social media. It's looking really great. I love the aesthetics of it. I knew that you would make it look very pretty and pleasing to the eye. And that is part of your creativity. And so yeah, the creation. That's wonderful. It's a lot more fun. yeah Yeah. I'm definitely more on our work account, I guess you would call it than my personal account now, which is also better. We're following other podcasters and stuff, which is more fun seeing the com content that they put out and what they come up with support in the community.
00:31:48
Speaker
Exactly. And then learning and growing instead of comparing and just being patient with our progress um because a lot of the people that we follow have been making podcasts for like a whole long time, like 10 years or more or something. And so of course we're learning, but we're not trying to be that overnight, you know. Right. And just knowing it takes time and we're learning. So social media is, it's a necessity. I mean, in this world, it really just is. and it's And it can be very beautiful. It can be very helpful. I know that I have learned a lot and I've met a lot of really cool people that I never would have known. Yeah.
00:32:34
Speaker
We just have to watch whenever it is sabotaging us or hurting us and then being able to have that awareness of like, hey, you know, I really i really want to scale back. I'm choosing my self-care and my self-love over scrolling anymore. I'm choosing to go do a practice. I'm choosing to go outside. I'm choosing to not even have my phone in my hand. Like if you feel that feeling and if you're having a hard time with that, ask for help.

Phones and Real-Life Interactions

00:33:10
Speaker
I know that there's someone out there that you can say, hey, I need some accountability. Could we do this together? Or if they don't want to do it, say that, could you hold me accountable or whatever. And what about just the way that it like even distracts you from when you're with someone else? Ooh, that's a fun one. Yeah. yeah i have a thing with that okay tell us your thing well i don't know i just phones in general when i'm around people well okay my
00:33:58
Speaker
my love language is quality time. So phones are a big enemy for me because when I'm hanging around people, it doesn't matter who I'm with. If it's one-on-one or one, or like a small a group of people, and you know, we're like having a conversation or something, that phone goes off, they pick it up, I'm like, hmm. It's just upsetting. Because it makes you feel like you're less important than whatever is on someone's phone. And that is not a fun thing to feel.
00:34:38
Speaker
i I mean, even I've had many past friendships, relationships where that would happen. And it just shuts me down because It would be like, you know, like right now if we're talking to each other and you picked up your phone and I'm talking right now, I would just like stop talking and then they usually do that thing where they're like, oh, what were you saying? And I'm like, you care.
00:35:14
Speaker
Well, actually this is going to bridge us into the next episode where we are going to be talking about speaking your truth. Yeah. And speaking your truth sometimes is calling people out in these, these scenarios of
00:35:33
Speaker
Hi, so I see that you have your phone and I know that that was important. um Is there any way that you and I could spend some time together without any distractions from the phone? And it's that speaking our truth is being because the bottom line is no one actually knows what we need. And if we shut down, they absolutely don't know what. you need and there's definitely exceptions i would say i mean of course like if you're getting a phone call from someone important or whatever um there's exceptions but it is the times where you're like ah i know you're not on the phone or they're just scrolling through social media yeah
00:36:17
Speaker
I mean, honestly, in this day and age, it doesn't matter where you go. When you're in a group of people, ah like if you just look out, have you ever just like looked out for a second, taken a pause? How many people just are on their phones? They're not having conversations anymore. It's gnarly. It's so easy just to to cower into yourself and like not have any conversations with anyone else anymore. And I noticed it a lot at like restaurants. When people are eating and sitting together, I'm like, what? I don't know. It's it's like once again, I understand exceptions. I understand you get a phone call or you get a text from someone important, you know. But I'm like, if I see someone literally scrolling on their phone at a restaurant, I'm like, oh, my goodness. OK, I can't even not tell this story. Also.
00:37:12
Speaker
ah so we were out to dinner like a couple weeks ago and these people behind us straight up put on a youtube video out loud as loud as possible at this nice restaurant and i mean i'm sorry but is that not rude like ipad kids well oh gosh yeah it's just it's like there's no like sense of like other surroundings like we're all living together in this world together right and then it's like these devices you just you almost feel like you have this own bubble so you can just do whatever and well i want to say this yeah i i do think our devices have separated us as a community so much to the point where i feel like some people don't even think the reality
00:38:04
Speaker
of what is happening is like, oh, you're like sitting at a restaurant with people and there's other people in your community around you. And you're trying to have a nice conversation with your date that you're with or the your family and then you're hearing this blaring like a table away and it's like, whoa, okay. I don't know.

Cultural Media Engagement: Japan vs. U.S.

00:38:28
Speaker
You do you, but also like. You do you. Yeah, it's weird we're all just so not accustomed to normal interaction anymore. yeah And we've,
00:38:54
Speaker
this is kinda not going off topic, but a little stretch. That's okay. We've both gone to Japan recently. Yes. And there were a lot of things about Japan that I like fell in love with that are different from America. But one of the things that kind of mess with me was like how much they consume in media. It's like some of the
00:39:28
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Or it's like, if you get on the train there, everyone is glued to their phone. Very few people have a book and no one talks to each other. Yeah, I think that's the culture though, right? You're not really supposed to I mean, but out loud it's just confusing to me, you know, yeah, like I don't know Yeah, and I'm not saying it's like it's just different. It's just different yeah but it's almost a little sad to me, you know, cuz like I
00:40:01
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You're just not having those heart-to-heart interactions. The human interactions, you know? And that is what... They're a very respectable culture. Of course. Very much so. I love Japan. I loved it. But I was like... It's almost... It's like an introvert's paradise there. Yeah. I guess is a way to put it. It just also makes you like... A little bit, you know? It's like... it's It's pretty widespread in our culture too here. like i mean just ah Everyone has a phone. Kids have phones. We all have phones. true We're all glued to them and we're we're we're more in tune to what's going on, not in our current reality, but what's in the phone. So yes, if you and I were sitting on the couch and I'm sitting here scrolling and youre you know I'm i' losing that opportunity to have
00:40:57
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a moment with you that could mean so much more than me seeing whatever it is going on on social media. So the bottom line is really becoming aware of your interaction with your phone and with social media, how it's really truly like coming to terms with how it's really truly affecting you and what's going on in your life. And yes, it is.
00:41:28
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Everyone's doing it, but still like it doesn't make it right to be on it all the time. If it's

Preview of Next Episode

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affecting you in your mental health or your relationships. Definitely. Yeah. So our next episode, is going to be. Like you said earlier, it's about speaking your truth and how it transforms your healing journey. Yes. Especially for those that ah have never been good at speaking up for themselves.
00:42:05
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It's a hard thing. I know we say that a lot, but it's been programmed in us, especially, I'm always going to say it, especially as women. We have really been silenced a lot in being able to speak up. And so getting that power back to be able to speak our truth and knowing that when we are speaking our truth, it's okay. It's okay

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to stick up for ourselves. It's okay to ask for what we want. It's okay to break that silence of just, I've gotta be a good girl. So yeah, I'm excited for the next episode and you're about to travel again, so. oh yes so So we'll be filming in a couple weeks. When you get back, yes.
00:42:52
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and I'm going to Oahu again, San Diego again, and then I'm going to Vegas. Nice. Well, I know that you are going to do an amazing job of all of the things that you're doing for the podcast and I'm going to miss you of course. I'm going to miss you a lot. When you leave, but also I'm going to have a little bit of that Time to my tongue, which is gonna feel so nourishing. Self care time. Self care. Okay, thank you all and we'll see you next time. But before we go, um if you guys would like to subscribe, like, comment, all that good stuff, if you're watching on YouTube, um but also find us on other platforms as well. We're pretty much on every podcast platform.
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