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8. Bridging Worlds: Mother-Daughter Psychedelic Experiences
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Welcome to Episode 8 of Spiraling Together: A Mother-Daughter Healing Journey – "Bridging Worlds: Mother-Daughter Psychedelic Experiences." In this insightful episode, we explore the transformative potential of various psychedelics and their role in healing. We discuss personal experiences and how these substances can bridge different dimensions of consciousness, offering profound insights and emotional release. Join us as we bridge worlds and share our journey of healing through these powerful experiences. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes of Spiraling Together!
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00:00:00
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I was stuck in this loop and I remember him saying that to me and he recommended that I try ketamine and all I could think of ketamine I was like special K like the drug that people used to take
00:00:17
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All right,
Introduction to Mother-Daughter Psychedelic Journey
00:00:18
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everybody. Welcome to episode eight of Spiraling Together. Today's episode title is Bridging World's Mother Daughter Psychedelic Experiences. o I'm excited about this. I know this one's gonna be pretty out there. I don't know. Yeah, might be a little Flashy. Flashy. Yeah. It's just real. It's what's going on.
Personal Psychedelic Experiences and Safety Messages
00:00:47
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It's the truth of what we've experienced and what has helped us and helped so many others. Yeah, I guess. um Well, I kind of wanted to dive right into it. Yeah, um I do too. But ask you.
00:01:06
Speaker
questions because you have a lot more experience in this aspect than I. um And I think this journey well might have started before COVID but I feel like your main thing that happened with psychedelics was during COVID. It was. And before we even dive in What we're going to share is the experiences that we've had to heal. And we are advocates for finding what works for you for your journey. And obviously we encourage you to always be safe and to even have help if you're deciding to use any type of psychedelics. So,
00:02:02
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Yeah, I forgot a little disclaimer, I guess you would say. We're in no means trying to tell you that this is what you should go do to change your life and... But it is an option and it is something that has greatly greatly helped me and many other people that I know. And of course it's pretty mainstream now psychedelics are it's right. It's not like this is like an underground thing. It's it's it's being used to help and it's being researched. So and the difference is using it for recreational or medicinal. Exactly.
00:02:47
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So do your research. But these are our experiences. Yes. Back to it. Okay. Let's do this. Yes. Talk me through COVID.
Mother's Ketamine Experience and Mental Health Struggles
00:03:00
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Okay. Well, huh I was already struggling with my mental health before COVID even hit. So when,
00:03:17
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2020 rolled around i I was already experiencing I was in a loop and I was getting very burned out in my career and I decided to finally go to a doctor which is something I didn't want to do. I didn't want to be on any type of prescription meds because I didn't have a great experience with them when I was a teenager. I actually overdosed on a bottle of my own antidepressants, so I was trying so hard to not go to a psychiatrist.
00:03:56
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But I had a friend that was like, hey, this psychiatrist is different. He works with psychedelics and he works with other medications that could possibly help you. And I remember going in and meeting with him and I was at such a low point that I couldn't even really understand the words he was saying because I remember him saying this to me, you're stuck in a loop. And I didn't know what that meant until later.
00:04:27
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throughout my healing journey. So whenever you are stuck in a loop, you're basically your nervous system has been so unregulated for so long that you are just stuck in these repeating patterns and these repeating thoughts and these repeating themes of consciousness And a lot of them can be things like guilt, just feeling a lot of guilt and just like because you feel so low, because you haven't taken care of yourself, you're just feeling all of these things. So anyway, I was stuck in this loop and I remember him saying that to me and he recommended that I try ketamine.
00:05:06
Speaker
And all I could think of, ketamine, I was like Special K, like the drug that people used to take clubbing. Like I didn't, I was just like, you know, I'm gonna trust this. It does sound like something that's pretty crazy. And when you boil it down, ketamine, you think horse tranquilizer? Exactly. Like what?
00:05:28
Speaker
Right. So I just remember being so desperate and not wanting to go on prescription meds and just going like, okay, let's do this. I mean, I'll be honest, when I was younger, I did LSD and things like that when I was young, but I didn't, I never did it in a way that I thought was anything other than recreational. To escape. to a As a kid. Yeah, absolutely. Everything I did was always to escape.
00:05:56
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even into my adulthood, things were to escape. Yeah. But I remember my first session of ketamine. I went in and they, you know, injected it or put it in Ivy or something like that. Um, I, I don't remember exactly. Cause again, I was really, really, really in a low state. Um, but I sat back and I just remember that I found myself and it was like, I was flying up over the world and it was like this message that just came to me that was like,
00:06:31
Speaker
you're stressing out about nothing. You know, it was just like this, like all of these things you're worrying about, you don't have to, like let let it go. And I remember coming out of it and I just felt a sense of relief relief immediately from that.
00:06:53
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But then it was like going back home to all the same things and still seeing all the same patterns. So it's not like it just cured me in that one dosage.
Exploring Psilocybin as a Healing Path
00:07:03
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But I had a few sessions and then my doctor also told me, he was like, you know, honestly, psilocybin is what I recommend. If you can get some or go somewhere that you can find psilocybin, psilocybin actually rewires your brain and connects your neurotransmitters, your neuro receptors.
00:07:31
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And so I was like, okay. Yeah, I remember watching a YouTube video about that. It like connects things in your brain that aren't usually connecting. Exactly.
00:07:46
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Yeah. And there's so much research now on psilocybin and there's even, yeah, there's just so many different studies on, they're doing studies on veterans right now. yeah And there's a clarity Hawaii, I believe, who is someone that I follow on Instagram and they're doing really good work.
00:08:07
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to educate the benefits of psilocybin and how it can rewire your brain and help you with PTSD, depression, everything like that. So yeah, psilocybin's probably one of the only psychedelics I've done that I've experienced like a ah healing, I would say.
00:08:34
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Funny enough, the first time I did shrooms was with you. Yes, because you also experienced during COVID. My lowest point, yeah I would say.
00:08:53
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Yeah, I think for me, I was a high school grad during 2020, right when it all started. And I think I had this pathway for my life that I had seen since I was a kid, but so much had changed in between.
00:09:15
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you know, being a kid in Texas and having these thoughts about going to college in Texas and this whole life that it finally all caught up when I was here and graduating and I wasn't getting my prom and I wasn't getting the graduation I thought I would have. And then I was like,
00:09:41
Speaker
Well, my whole life has led up to this. And I had put these experiences that I'm not going to get on a pedestal. And when that fell through, I was like, what's the point? And now who knows what's going on with the world anyways? And I kind of just let everything crumble. And I didn't know how to crawl out of it.
00:10:12
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And I feel like I kept trying to, and I kept like trying to implement things, but that I feel like I cried every single day of quarantine. Like there was not a day that I didn't feel horrible. And I was smoking weed every day, which is something else. It's not a psychedelic, but It's a drug. It's something to escape. Right. Exactly. Escape. And I smoke so much and I like felt so bad for myself so much to the point where I made myself sick from weed. And I started greening out, like throwing up from smoking too much all the time. And then one day I realized like,
00:11:13
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I'm purposely doing this now. And so I just was going lower and lower for quite a while. Yeah. And as a mom.
00:11:29
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When you know that your child is struggling, the only thing that I feel the only thing that is super present in our current society is take your child to a therapist and get them on drugs immediately or get them on prescription meds immediately. And that's like the only option.
Daughter's COVID Struggles and Psilocybin Experience
00:11:50
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And because of my own personal experience, I was like, nope, we're not doing that. I would much rather my child and I experience a psychedelic trip on a mushroom that literally grows out of the earth, that that has been used for thousands of years as a ah treatment You know, it's it's a medicine. They're little Santos Ninos they're called. But I was like, you know what? I am going to be that mom that does something a little bit different.
00:12:31
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Because I almost didn't make it. You know, I was in a coma for five days. I was read my last rights. I was told that my parents were told that I was not going to make it because most prescription antidepressants actually make the symptoms worse.
00:12:50
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And I was like, you know what, Chloe, I i did this and I want, I would like you to, well, I just offered it and said, would you, yeah, would you like to try this? Would you like to do something a little bit different? I'm obviously going to do whatever it is that you want to do. But from what I know, these are the things. And so. I still remember that day. Yeah. Well, I remember.
00:13:21
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we took shrooms and then we went outside because we were like nature and then our neighbor came out and was like talking to us and we were like oh and do you remember the little mushroom like we looked down on the ground and there was a little mushrooms growing out of the ground but it it that's one of the beautiful things about psilocybin is it really connects you so much and you can see and feel the oneness of everything. yeah And then when we went back inside, that's when I think it kicked into where it was the healing of it. yeah
00:14:05
Speaker
which do you want to talk a little bit about the things that you experienced or? I remember when we went inside, I laid down and I was staring up at the ceiling and we had wooden ceilings and you know, you look at the like pattern of it and it was like, you know, kind of like looking interesting. And then all of a sudden I just like, there were just tears coming out of my eyes.
00:14:33
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And I was like, I don't know why I'm crying. I'm just like crying. And then it was like, I got hit with a wave of like more emotion and I just started like talking about, I guess stuff that I was realizing about myself and
00:15:03
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. It was really weird because again, if you listen to the podcast or not, I have always had a hard time about like speaking up about myself and my feelings and emotions and stuff like that. And all of a sudden I was just spewing all this is stuff to you.
00:15:28
Speaker
And you told me some very deep things, some things that as a mom, I was like, oh my gosh, you know, I just felt so much compassion for you. And just at that time, I didn't know some of the things that you were going through. And for you to admit those to me and like be able to cry and to ah release those emotions, that is part of healing.
00:15:54
Speaker
That energy that gets trapped inside of us is what causes our depression or anxiety or anything like that. And having Silasai been there to help you clear that out and and speak and tell me what it was you were experiencing.
00:16:13
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And then do you remember when you also, you like looked at the carpet and you were like, it's so beautiful. And you were just like, it's so beautiful. I've never seen anything this beautiful. And it was just so, it was really sweet because it was beautiful. Like life is beautiful. And we forget get that as humans because we get so caught up in our mind and our daily grind that we forget to stop and really ah appreciate the carpet, the carpet or just life or yeah who we're with. Exactly. We're so focused on the the future of like what we need to do and where we need to get or we're focused if we're like depressed we're on the past and the mistakes we might have made are the things that have happened to us and we're not enjoying the present moment and psychedelics can really help with that.
00:17:11
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Definitely. And also, I don't remember, I don't know if you remember this part, but you were like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom and you came back and you were like, mom, I looked in the mirror and I'm so beautiful. I don't know why I think I'm not beautiful. And I
Integration and Lasting Effects of Psychedelics
00:17:32
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was like, you are so beautiful, sweetheart. it's it's It peels the layers back so that you can see your soul.
00:17:40
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And you can realize that you're not just the skin. You're so much more. Yeah. throwback. I really, that was a good journey. That was, it was very healing. And, um, and what you'll feel after the days after is you will still continue to feel the connection and the way that your, your brain had was rewired during that session. yeah And you can do more research on psilocybin cause there, there are different dosage levels.
00:18:15
Speaker
Yeah, which I was gonna say I have never done like a really like yeah, so there's a hero's dose and That's when you experience ego death Yes, you do you want to talk about that because I've never done that Yeah, so I've I've done probably so I've done three hero doses and that is actually what my doctor recommended to really get the benefits of the rewiring of the brain and and that's not something you need to do very often and it's also something that
00:18:58
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is good to to not do alone have a sitter with you. So somebody that can hold your hand during the journey and what I did with that is I was blindfolded and I laid in bed and I was in a safe place and I knew that I didn't need to do anything else or be anywhere else. I had nothing to take care of because it can last like five to seven hours. But during that time, it is it feels like there's an intensity.
00:19:33
Speaker
things just come up and you in that moment if you try to hold on to them it it's kind of like you just can't you just let it go and then each thing that comes through during these journeys just gives you an opportunity to let things go so kind of like that what you said the ego death each time you feel it you'll see something and and you just let it go and When you're done, like I said the next days you just feel so connected and you have these huge Realizations that the things that you were worrying about are not worth Worrying about anymore. It's unnecessary stress that we just take on. Yeah
00:20:24
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00:21:37
Speaker
It's really, really good medicine, especially if you are struggling with your mental health, ah whether that's depression or PTSD or anything like that. Obviously, I know there's contraindications. um So don't go into any of this lightly. I know there's even um places that you can go to like facilities if you don't feel comfortable with, you know, just taking But yeah, if you haven't done it before, it's.
00:22:11
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Yeah, and you just need people or are you being around people. Not just going out and like taking it and like driving or definitely don't want to drive, but knowing a dosage or just so yeah you you.
00:22:29
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need to know what you're taking, setting intention behind it, if you're not somewhere that's facilitating it to you. Yeah. it I love that you said that it's setting the intention before that you're going into this for healing yeah purposes, that you're not doing it just so that you can see all the cool things and like, you know, I mean, I'm not saying that I haven't done that before. Well, yeah, I have. we Yeah.
00:22:59
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But I think there's something beautiful in that too. I mean, it might not be like a personal healing thing, but I would say that
00:23:09
Speaker
another time that I took shrooms and it might not have been for healing but was with like a group of my friends and if if you do it with people that you love and everybody has good intention behind it and it's not just to take drugs and whatever You're still gonna have a beautiful experience and the unity that I felt with those people and the love that you feel for those people is so a immense and It's like you don't want it to end but like of course, it's it's an experience and you do have to Remember that
00:23:56
Speaker
that is the purpose of this thing you're taking it is for the beauty of things and to get more connected with everything with nature the people around you and not to get stuck in that world though right because I It is a very beautiful thing. It can not be very beautiful, but if you get lost in the bliss of it and you want that all the time, that is where it can go wrong. Yeah, I love that you're talking about this because
00:24:33
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There needs to be an integration period after you experience psychedelics so that you can integrate what you learned during this experience into your life. Because the point of healing is actually becoming aware of the cycles that you repeat in your life and wanting to make changes. And so not just going from experience to experience to experience, because i've I've definitely witnessed a lot of people that do that. And I just really don't believe that that's healing. I believe, like I said, it's just like chasing that bliss, chasing like living in this 5D,
00:25:21
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consciousness or whatever all the time, which is not true healing. And it's not real anymore. Right. Unfortunately.
00:25:34
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Yeah, and there's also, when you're talking about psilocybin, there are different, like we talked about earlier, dosages. There's even microdosing where you don't even have a psychedelic experience. And so some people will start there because maybe they do have a bit of a fear of the psychedelic part of the psilocybin that happens with larger doses. doses yeah Whereas the microdosing, you don't have any of the visual effects from it.
00:26:04
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um And a lot of people have actually had a very... ah Like they have had a lot of healing just doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah. Do we want to move on to something crazier?
00:26:24
Speaker
that you've done. Oh gosh, something crazy. Is it crazy? Maybe not. and Well, you know that I'm, I would say it's not as common. I'm open to discussing because my journey, there isn't anything that I don't want to share because if it could possibly help someone the way it's helped me, then I am willing to discuss.
Ayahuasca and Spiritual Revelations
00:26:48
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ayahuasca ayahuasca ayahuasca yeah the grandmother so yeah do you have anything you want to know about or do you just want me to go into it yeah talk about experiences what led you to doing it so again during
00:27:16
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It was like once I had an awakening to the traumas that we face as humans and the amount of things that went on during my life and the things that I know that have been passed on generationally, i it was like I was on a mission.
00:27:38
Speaker
to just being able to feel better and come back to peace within myself or even not even come back to it, just experience it. I really wanted to feel peace and I wanted my life to feel differently and I didn't want to fall back on Western medicine. So.
00:28:03
Speaker
When I was trying everything that I could, I had a friend say, have you considered ayahuasca? And I was like, no, I don't even know what that is. And so I did a little research on it and I was nervous, but there was something inside of me that was just like, try it, you know, you're,
00:28:31
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person that goes all in like I'm I am I'm not someone who just like oh I jump in like I'm doing a healing journey watch this like I'm gonna go all into this right I'm doing whatever it is I want to do it yeah I'm not scared of I'm not scared of trying to become a better me and so I I had an opportunity to go to this ayahuasca ah retreat and so I went and it was very intense. Not gonna lie. It was extremely intense. The first night, that was it was a three night, the first night I was purging the medicine after you drink it.
00:29:24
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There was a period where I didn't even think it was really working. And then once it started working, I was like, wow, and the visuals are very powerful.
00:29:38
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And then I started purging and I just remember I was just crying and it was like I was seeing all of these things coming up from my father's line. It was like I was experiencing the things he experienced. and My father, he took his life when I was four and so I didn't really know him much.
00:29:58
Speaker
But there were it was like I was experiencing and I was just purging out all of these things. And I was crying and moaning. And one of the helpers came over and just said, Valerie, this this is what the medicine does. And if you can just breathe and allow it to happen, it'll be a lot easier and i because I was trying to fight it. But the medicine was helping purge it out.
00:30:26
Speaker
so um We live in Hawaii and there was a nap bug just landed on my forehead. We try what um as I'm also looking at a lizard on the wall right now. Um, but the thing that I really want to talk about is the second night. Okay. This night, once I purged more,
00:30:51
Speaker
It was like a light how came on and I saw this beautiful glowing rainbow ball and it was like both masculine and feminine were talking to me. And and it was saying, we've always been here with you like a mother father figure.
00:31:18
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We've always been here with you. and And what that meant to me was growing up, and I know this is a very, like we live in a very patriarchal society. i We grew up in Texas and I thought that God was only a father. And that never felt right to me. It just never did.
00:31:44
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Like, where's the where's the mother in that? Where's the birther? And so that experience helped me on my spiritual journey so much. I can't even explain how much healing that was for me to know that it's a mother and a father.
00:32:07
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and not just a father. It just felt so comforting. So without ayahuasca, I wouldn't have been able to heal some of the spiritual trauma or not spiritual, but the religious trauma that I had. And ah so I did ayahuasca a total of six times and I feel complete with the medicine, but it did help me immensely.
00:32:35
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And I believe that if you go to a facility and you have the right people there, it can be life transforming.
00:32:53
Speaker
Some people go to Peru, some people go to Costa Rica, some people go to different parts of the world to experience the experience this medicine. And again, it's not something that you want to do every week. Right. Yeah, it's something that you can use as a medicine and integrate it and even have people help you with that integration of what you experienced because it is intense, but it is also something where, you know, part of healing is releasing control.
00:33:35
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And what that medicine really does is it it does, it's not that you're gonna be out of control, but if you ah really allow the medicine to do what it's meant to do and you do release control and you do surrender to it, I believe that is where you get the most healing. Right. When do you, or like,
00:34:05
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Yeah, when would you say, like if someone wanted to do it and asked your advice, like when should I do this? At what point in my life? Because I mean, obviously it's anybody's personal choice. I feel like when you feel called to do it, I don't feel like there's a right or a wrong time to, well,
00:34:26
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There could be a wrong time, yes. yeah If you're just like invited to go do it at someone's house on a Friday night and you you're not being led. No, I don't believe that that's the best choice.
00:34:39
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because I mean, to me, it's like you said the word intense. I was thinking that it seems so intense.
00:34:49
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that like, I don't think I could fathom doing it like right now, just cause I, I mean, I don't feel ready, I guess. Cause it does seem something that's like steps above other things like shrooms.
00:35:07
Speaker
Yeah, and i don't i okay so if you're someone that's really struggling and you just cannot get out of the loop and you're just really stuck and mentally, I think a lot of people go at that point and they because they have tried everything and nothing is working and they really need a breakthrough. yeah um I did Chapibo ceremonies, so they were led by Curenderos, and it was um a shaman there, and so it was something I trusted. Like it felt legit. Oh, it was absolutely. Yeah, it yeah it was legit.
00:35:51
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But i don't I think it's just if you're if you're called to it and you can trust where you're going and who you're with. But it's not something to take lightly. It is intense, but it's also, again, it's made from nature, two different vines. And it isn't a pharmaceutical. It's something that comes from the earth.
00:36:23
Speaker
Yeah. Plant medicines. Another thing I wanted to bring up. So you brought up LSD very early on. Oh yeah. Thoughts.
00:36:38
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Well, it is man-made and it is for me,
00:36:50
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I don't personally like the body experiences that come along with it. But I know that like, I mean, Ram Dass did a lot of LSD and he was able to really reach some places, you know, during that. So I think it can definitely be beneficial if
00:37:13
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That's the way if that's the way it does help you see things beyond this reality. um I personally really like plant medicines because I trust that more. Yeah, I know I because I I've done LSD as well. But in my experience, I
00:37:36
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have had way worse times on LSD than shrooms or... Yeah. It's a different feeling. Yeah. Yeah. it's I've gotten myself in a... The last time I did it was the last time I said I'd ever do it.
00:37:57
Speaker
Same. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like the way my body felt. um There's also MDMA, which i've I never have actually experienced personally, but I know that that's another um thing that people are using. And there might actually be something recently that came out about that, that they were trying to outlaw that or I don't, I don't want, I don't know exactly. So I don't want to go into too much, but I feel like I saw something on social media recently where someone was still wanting to fight for that as maybe it was Elon Musk or I don't remember. Somebody was trying to like really talk about how it had helped them benefits. Yeah. So yeah there, here's the thing.
00:38:48
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We have been taught
Humor and Connection in Psychedelic Experiences
00:38:53
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Like a lot of these things have been illegal, even though they are things that come from the earth. And and there's a reason why we are are cut off from these type of medicines. It's because, yeah, a lot of, can't really control it. And also, can you imagine if everyone decided to take some psychedelics and then wake up to who they really are. Like yeah then we wouldn't be controlled. So that's, that's a whole nother rabbit hole to go down and even. Yeah. Like I feel like this is just like funny to say, like when I did shrooms with my friends last time, I remember we brought a bag of chips and lychee.
00:39:51
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What did we pick to eat? you had to you don't it It's like you feel so connected. We were literally like sitting on the grass in front of a pond and like opening up this lychee and we're like, wow, like everything's so alive. like And we were just like looked at the chips and we're like, ew, processed food. I don't even wanna touch it. Like it seems so disgusting.
00:40:20
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But then it's like you get off of that and then you're like, Oh, whatever chips. Yummy. Yeah. It's, you just feel the connection. The plant medicines show you your connection to the other plants and to the earth. Yeah.
00:40:36
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It's crazy. We also, I remember my birth there was a bunch of ducks and in the beginning it was like, we were almost like freaked out by them because there were so many of them and we had food and they kept trying to come over. But then when we were like, you know, high on shrooms, like we, they were just so pretty. And then when they would walk over, we'd be like, oh my gosh, she's so cute.
00:41:06
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Yeah, the connection to the animals too. Speaking of ducks, but we just had yeah baby born on the farm yesterday. Nine little ducklings are so
Responsibility in Using Plant Medicines
00:41:19
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Yeah. So well,
00:41:23
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I feel complete. And you're going to say that I know it's like you could feel it when it's when it's time. Um, yeah. So again, the things that we're sharing are in hopes that it could potentially help someone out there that is looking for an alternative way and do your research. There is so much of it out there.
00:41:53
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and and know that there are other ways to connect and heal and come back to the truth of who you are that might not be the conventional ways that we've been taught.
00:42:10
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And even if you listen to this episode and you still don't want to to do these things, there's other ways to heal. These are just things we've decided to do. And if you feel called to do this after this episode, just be responsible. We don't condone abusing any of these things, of course. No. Because they can be abused. and we would rather these be used as tools. Yes, tools for healing. So yeah. So what are we talking about in our next episode? Because we did plan that out, but I'm blinking right now. OK, no worries. Yeah. I think we are going to be talking about mental health. Oh, yes. Yeah. A little bit more about mental health. Diving into that a little bit more. Yes. And some more deeper parts of our experiences and then other ways that we
00:43:09
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got got through it got through it. Yeah. Yeah.
Conclusion and Preview of Next Episode
00:43:12
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Yeah. Okay. Well, so thank you so much everybody um for checking us out, listening to the episode, maybe watching it um as well as subscribing, liking, following all that good stuff on social media. It really does help us out a lot. And we would like to keep improving everything for you guys um so that we can keep coming back.
00:43:38
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Don't judge her. Just love her. Bye.