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Lisa Frankenstein Featuring Madison Smith!
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It's a new week! A new movie and a new GUEST! Director and horror aficionado Madison Smith (@mudisonsmuth) joins Emma and Katie as they discuss the 2024 Horror Rom Com Lisa Frankenstein! Tune in as they discuss Cole Sprouse, the 80s, and for some reason Tom Delong and the kids these days.
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Privacy Reflections & Online Identity
00:00:20
Speaker
One of the first podcast episodes that we did, I told a story that I completely cut out because I realized I'm that it is not something that I had any good. Yeah, welcome to consent from you to the pod. share on the podcast. And I mentioned your last name, and I was just like, oh, I can't share all of that. Yeah, we haven't edited the last episode where we announced that you're going to be on it. So I think we say you're last name on that. Oh, yeah. No, I don't care. You can say my last name.
00:00:47
Speaker
I don't know. The thing is, is that it's very difficult to Google because that's true. Madison Smith on the planet is like roughly 11 year old and is like in like dance or cheer or something. Madison Smith. I'm very hard to locate on the Internet. There's another playwright named Katie Coleman, but she does really. Yeah, she does like children's plays or something. I don't know. oh Hmm. My gut instinct was like, we should kill her. Yeah,
00:01:20
Speaker
yeah just creep in on that territory. Cutting all of this out, obviously. We also love to say ever cut something out and then don't cut it out. We don't. It's good content. The only other podcast I've ever done is Elliott Lerner's podcast. I'm going to use for some last name because we all know who Elliott Lerner is. I don't. You. You don't know Elliott? You've definitely been in a room with Elliot Lerner. Yeah. OK. Huge, chaotic. Yeah. He was in the radio play. He was the soldier. OK. Fair enough. He looks like Tom DeLong from Blink 182.
00:01:58
Speaker
And I texted him this past weekend. Is that the one with the voice or the other one? Which one believes in aliens? That's Tom DeLon. That's Tom DeLon, yeah. And so like Charlie was forcing me, because we're going to a Blink concert next month. And so Charlie had realized that all of this concert that he had saw at Reading Festival in the UK was on YouTube. And so he forced me to watch chunks of it while we were waiting for SNL ah last weekend. And so as we were watching it, I was just like, wow, Tom really kind of looks like
Blink-182 Anticipation & Doppelganger Discussion
00:02:28
Speaker
Elliot. And then I was like,
00:02:29
Speaker
does that look like Elliot? It was like, yeah. And I was like, I'm a text Elliot. So I texted Elliot and he goes, Yes, Emma. Actually, let me actually read the text. That's the thing about looking like a celebrity. You can't ever tell somebody, hey, do you know you look like a select because they've heard it a million times. Yeah. Elliot just texted me out of the blue last month, and we hadn't spoken in like, maybe a year. And he was like, what's your email address? And part of me was like, you definitely know my email address. Yeah. And then I was like, here it is. And he goes, OK, great. And then I opened the email he sent me, and it was just six plays he had recently read that he liked. anyway And he titled the email, Plays to Shake Your Fist To, because he thought I would have some sort of like this so visceral reaction when I read that. Yeah.
00:03:10
Speaker
Um, so I got to read those plays for Elliot. No, i well, they were either, some of them were plays that actually read before, but a couple were placed by like playwrights. I know whose work I really liked. So I feel confident. I'm going to like them. Like one was like a Jen Silverman play. Oh, nice. Yeah. So I was like, I'll read these, Elliot. These look great. And I think he wanted me to be like upset about it. Yeah. I'd be like, no. Elliot. Well, i I said, Elliot, has anyone ever told you you look like Tom DeLong? This is last Saturday at 11.29 PM. You know, before the alien stuff. And he said, yes, Emma, period. I've gotten that many times. And I said, are you a time traveling Tom DeLong from 1998? And he said, no, I'm just a guy who had a period when I looked really good.
00:03:54
Speaker
When I said, nah, you still look like 1998 Tom DeLong. love elliot I like that you specified before he got into alien stuff, indicating that Tom DeLong took ah made made a massive change in his look before and after the alien stuff. Is that true? Look at him in the 90s and you look at him now. Also, I would say there's like like he looked so healthy. He probably was not realistically speaking. Very healthy. in the way Yeah. But like, he's so young and like, you know. worried. I think that the aliens aged him a lot like it was the stress of the government lying to us. Probably also like, you know, just be that he's pushing 50. Yeah, that too. But, you know, Travis Barker looks the exact same. Well, he's married to a witch. So is he married to a Kardashian? Oh, all that money.
00:04:48
Speaker
Like we yeah royal fair keep on socialized he speaking travis speaking of and staying young forever. That brings us nicely into our movie today.
Introduction to 'Go Get Your Girl' & 'Lisa Frankenstein'
00:05:01
Speaker
yes What is this podcast, Emma? Who are you? Yeah, that's right, guys. that This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Katie and Emma, and sometimes their friend Madison, um fall in love with a cemetery bust, and then dream him to life, and then fall in love with him all over again, but also while trying to get banged by a real human only to realize that men are scum.
00:05:27
Speaker
That's right. This is go get your girl. I'm Emma. and I'm Katie.
00:05:34
Speaker
And who are you? I'm Madison. Yeah! Special guest for Madison Smith. Hello. Hello. Welcome, welcome. Today we are talking about the film, Lisa Frankenstein, the very, very new Lisa Frankenstein, which was a wreck from Madison. So we thought we would bring Madison in to guest and give her opinions and thoughts and feelings on the movie. um Yes. Yeah. And honestly, like, if there's anything that, like, if there's an aesthetic that the three of us share, it's it's this movie. Like, the yeah the combination of um death and horror and cute sweetness. um If the three of us, I think I'll share this in common, yeah. Yeah. It's the perfect blend of, like, all of our interests into one movie. And then just done so well.
00:06:31
Speaker
Yeah, so this is Lisa Frankenstein. It is from 2024. 2024, right? Like February of this year, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Directed by Zelda Williams. And this is her first movie. And written by Diablo Cody, who of course wrote Juno and Jennifer's Body and Young Adults. Oh. And other films. And other films. You don't like Young Adult? No, I started to watch Young Adult, but it was too real for me. Oh, sure.
1980s Influence & Charlize Theron's Acting
00:07:04
Speaker
I've not seen i've only seen Juno and Jennifer's Body I've never seen other than Lisa Frankenstein. That is the third Diablo Cody I've never seen. anything So she has a movie called Tully with which I watched because it has Mackenzie Davis in it whom I love very much.
00:07:19
Speaker
And it's okay. It's one of those things yeah where it's very obvious what's happening and you want it to like twist out of that, like what you think is going to happen and then just the thing happens and it's just kind of over and it was really disappointing. But it's not like a bad movie. Yeah. Yeah, no. Young Adult is all about Charlize Theron, who goes back to her hometown. um And she wants to prove to everyone, because she had like moved, to I think, to LA. And she wants she wants to get back together with her like high school sweetheart, but he's like engaged or married or something. And so she spends the entire time just trying to break up his current relationship and like prove that she's in a really good place, but really, she's in a really shitty place.
00:08:01
Speaker
I don't think I like don't buy Charlize Theron as that type of a character. Like I think it's like she's so beautiful and put together in poise that it's like she can't act her way successfully out of being who she I know she truly is. I don't buy it. I don't buy it Charlize. I'm so sorry. I don't buy it. I don't know, I think she does a good job. I mean, Tully is the same thing where she's this, yeah um you know, she's she's had, she's just had a baby and she it's all a very like, you know, she's disgusted by her body and there's this like young woman who is like the babysitter who she's so jealous of and um I think she pulls it off as far as being one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood. Yeah, but what is Lisa Frankenstein about Katie?
00:08:49
Speaker
Um, Lisa Frankenstein is, uh, first of all, set in the eighties, which we love. Um, I have a lot, I mean, none of us remember the eighties, uh, right? Madison, I don't think you remember the eighties. We were all there briefly. We were all there. Very briefly. Charlie likes to remind me of that constantly. Very constantly. Was Charlie not born in the eighties? Oh, wow. wasn't He's a nineties baby. And so he loves to tell me how old I am because I was born two years before him. Uh-huh. Well, he's also a huge infant, so that could be his confusion. He's a huge infant with the soul of a 95-year-old man. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. i We went out with my cousin in Hartford of like a month ago. We went to like meet her new boyfriend. And we were on this like double date. And we went to all we unfortunately went out on a Saturday night. And like all these places were popping. And it was St. Patrick's Day weekend.
00:09:44
Speaker
and Charlie stood in the corner of many crowded loud bars just with his little beer corn. like but but but but but ah did he Did he not have a good time? No, he had It's just you couldn't tell. That's just what he did. Oh, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, that's just what he does. I think that our generation has a lot of fondness for the 80s because there was like a big 80s revival in the 2000s, especially with like music and aesthetic and everything. So I know that's probably why I love the 80s so much. And this was before like Stranger Things and it was kind of a second wave of that, but like in the in the mid to late 2000s.
00:10:27
Speaker
and you know, starting with the killers and like Franz Ferdinand and a lot of that kind of like new wave revival stuff, it got really, um I know in my college, we had a lot of 80s dance parties. And so I have a lot of affection for those unremembered years. We did that as well. Yeah. A lot of like 80s themed dance parties, which I don't know. That's very strange, isn't it? Well, the Cure released an album while we were in high school. So I feel like that's true as well. The one so the cu with Blink 182 on it, right? Yeah. Well, says do on that album and he produced the blink 182 self titled record. And then I think at least one or I think at least those boys were on the pure album at the same time. I don't know. I could be wrong about that. I love it. He definitely produced the blink 182 self titled. Yeah. Well, do you guys know what the new 80s dance party is, though, for like tweens and teens? It's like 90 thousand.
Generational Social Dynamics & Technology Impact
00:11:21
Speaker
It's the 2000. Oh, God. Yeah. Like they're just like they dress emo.
00:11:28
Speaker
That's. Yeah. Throwback to my. They were. And yeah. Or they pop their collars. Oh boy. You know. Oh no. Are they wearing multiple polos? Surely not. They're not doing multiple polos again. Oh God. I hope so. I hope so. Like they're dressing like American Pie. I see those like TikToks on Instagram because I don't even use TikTok because I'm an elderly person of like these influencers whose whole thing is they like do videos of themselves in high school. And then there's they like, they go to Target and they're like, these are the things I was wearing in 2006. And they're like, for sale at Target right now. yeah Like what is happening? They are. It wasn't a good time for fashion. It was a bad time for fashion. It was a very bad time. It was a very bad time. It's because fashion is cyclical and because we are in the age of the internet, things just keep like filtering through ah and deeply confusing. Yeah. If you think about it and tie belts are coming back now, like it's it's dire.
00:12:25
Speaker
But like, if you think about it, it's like... 20 years ago, right? So when we were in high school, that's as if someone was like really, and I'm sure, I mean, think about the popped collars, think about a lot of things. People of the 80s, like 1984 to like 2004. I guess that's true. I mean, that's what we that were doing. so A lot of like the polo stuff, that preppy stuff is just 80s preppy stuff recycled. Yeah. i called And including like the stereotypes that people strived to be.
00:12:57
Speaker
Yeah, it's just 80s stereotypes. I will say now that I'm like, it's still an education at this point. The teens that I'm working with, the like concept of like group cliques that you would have seen in the 80s or when we were in high school, they don't exist anymore. The the people that I see hanging out with each other, i part of me wants to be like, no, get away from each other. You're wrong. You don't have and you're wrong. That's not your person. But they don't have that. Don't you bully each other? They're clicky, but the clicks are not defined by like their fashion or their interests. It's very difficult to be done. What are they defined? When I see people who are friends, I'm like, what do you two have in common? I genuinely can't tell. I can't figure it out. Is it a therapist?
00:13:45
Speaker
Maybe that's maybe maybe they're maybe they're onto something. Maybe they're deeper than we ever were. Well, there's so much kinder than we ever were, too. Yeah. And thank God, which is which is really nice. Yeah. But then they're also, I think, dumber in many ways, like the stuff that I feel like we knew at that age, we had more. They have more maybe like emotional intelligence than we did. Yeah, less like common sense. Yeah, if that makes sense. I mean, there's everything is like you have to understand like,
00:14:18
Speaker
The generations ahead of us were obviously went much further in this direction, but we did have a lot more freedom in some ways than kids now because kids now are not getting their driver's licenses as often and or as young as we did. None of them can drive. yeah their parents track them on their phones. So like we could sneak out and we could go we could go places, we could tell our parents we're going somewhere and end up going somewhere else and have like independent lives, but these kids' parents track them everywhere they go. yeah And so they end up being a little bit more sheltered because of that, I think, in in in some ways and not others because they also have the breadth of the internet. They never have to like learn or remember something because all information is in their hand.
00:15:05
Speaker
yeah Yeah, they were never told that, like, what are you gonna do without accomplishing? We could just not know something. And then we just, you know, what it like, we wouldn't know it, because there wasn't a way to know it. Yeah, for them that barrier is gone. So they don't ever have to remember anything. Because why would they have to? It's all in their hand, in their pocket. It's very, very strange interacting with them, because I feel not too dissimilar to them, you know? I'm not that much older than them, a decade or 15 years older than them. But it's like, it is significant when you think about their access to technology versus our access to technology. Yeah. Oh, for sure. We just had the internet, we just had to go home and get on the computer to look something up.
00:15:45
Speaker
Yeah. And no one could make a phone call. Yeah. was Yeah. If you were out with friends and someone was like, yeah, so that on that album, it was made in such and such and such and such. And you were like, no, that's not true. And then you got into an argument about it. There's no one to be like, hold off, guys, let me Google this. It was an argument. We're older than Google. I said that to a classroom and they were like, what? And I was like, yeah, we're older than Google. And like and now Google is dead and it doesn't work anymore.
00:16:15
Speaker
And the next generation is not going to have it just like we did. It's like that zombie in that movie we all watch. Just be like, yeah. And Lisa Frankenstein. So in 2024's Lisa Frankenstein, my first note is love an animated opening. Boy oh
Film Review: 'Lisa Frankenstein' - Themes & Characters
00:16:28
Speaker
boy. Me too. That's also what I wrote. Yeah. So cute. I like that a lot. And I like that it keeps popping up too. We see the sort of motif more than once. I think it's really nice. Yeah, and I love like all the dream sequences. I think that all the sequences are done so smartly to where they actually do feel there's that element between horror and like whimsy and like things in her actual reality in her bedroom that make you feel like it actually is a dream. Like these are things that like you would actually dream about this just like, well, that's so random. Why is the yeah the moon silent picture in this? Oh, because she has the poster on her wall.
00:17:07
Speaker
Why is the serial killer coming out from under the bed? Oh, because her mom was murdered. By an axe murderer, yeah. By an axe murderer. I want to circle back on that very quickly. Yeah, me too. Because I have some notes. Let's get into the plot, Katie. On the axe murderer? Yes. So yeah, so I said it's the 80s and then we did 10 minutes about the kids these days. So it's, it's set in the 80s. Um, is there a specific time? Is it like 1985 or something? I don't, 1989. Oh, it's 89. Yeah. And you can tell in the change in fashion from and the bulk of the movie until that like sort of epilogue bit with her sister. What her sister's wearing is very Babysitter's Club. It's very like 1990s Babysitter's Club. And I didn't realize it until this watch. I was like, they're showing the 90s in the costuming. Wait to go. Taffy gets a clue. Yeah. She does get a clue. She does. I love her. She's my favorite. She's my MVP of this movie.
00:18:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So yes, it's the 80s. And um Lisa swallows, which is her last name. Horrible. um Is her mom died killed by an axe murderer. She lives with her dad and her terrible stepmom and her step sister, Taffy, who is doing her best. Like she's doing her best. She's such a refreshing kind of character because she's like the popular girl but she's, she's not mean to Lisa like she wants to help her and she I think she cares about her humble bragging she's constantly she doesn't know how to not humble brag, but she also knows to shut her mom up when her mom's being a bitch.
00:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. She's oddly sweet. She's like dumb as a box of rocks. Like I don't think that she I really think she's operating at like her optimum level the whole time. I don't think she's any smarter than she is. But she's so sweet. And I think she genuinely I think you're right. She genuinely likes Lisa. And I think that that's nice. You expect her to be awful. And it's so great to see her as an ally. Right. It's it's a really refreshing take on that stereotype. Like you're saying, Katie. um Well, first of all, I guess we get an animated opening, which is very Tim Burton, which yeah is about a little golf boy in the 19th century who woos a lady with his piano playing and then immediately loses her to a guitar playing asshole to a chat with a guitar. Yeah. yeah And then gets struck by lightning and dies. Yeah, immediately gets struck by lightning and dies.
00:19:46
Speaker
Yeah. And then and then his his gravestone says unmarried. I know. It's a bachelor's cemetery, which I guess was a thing. i This is a no research podcast, as listeners remember. I thought that was just the name of it. No, I think it's i think it's a ah ah cemetery for, it's called Bachelor's Grove. I think it's for unmarried men. Yeah. At least that's how I took it. Oh, you know, I assumed it was the name too. Cause I'm familiar with the concept of like a popper cemetery. Yeah. I had never heard of the concept of a bachelor cemetery. Although, I mean, everything is so on the nose in the movie. I think you're probably right that they're intending it. Even if it's not a real thing full of single dudes. Yeah. Even if it's not a real thing in history, and the intention in this, in this world. Um, so, uh, yes.
00:20:41
Speaker
Lisa Swallows. So now it's 1989, Lisa Swallows. And she likes to do gravestone etchings, rubbings i look really cool in the cemetery. Like, yeah you know, like cool kids do and did. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I don't know how you guys felt, but like on my rewatch of this movie, I saw a lot of my high school self in Lisa Swallows. I was like, yes, been there, done that. Like, you get that cool girl, you badass makeover because you're just like, fuck it. And then you automatically change all of your personality and you're into weird shit because nobody likes you. And like, you just sort of really lean into that. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ. We've we've talked about our differing high school paths on this podcast before. So Katie was a press.
00:21:37
Speaker
I was, sadly. I regret to inform you. Madison, what was your high school self? I honestly have had the same personality since I was a toddler. Nothing about me has been altered. That's very unsurprising, honestly. I know. Grumpy, elderly person. I love that. Let's see. How did I identify? I went to a huge high school. My graduating class in high school was like almost 1,000 people. Jesus. But that being said, I feel like I was neither popular nor unpopular. If that makes sense. I was like a fairly good student, but not like a really good one. Yeah. I did theater. I did chamber choir. We had a cable TV show as part of our like journalism department. So I was I was in with a small group of people who did the cable TV show.
00:22:30
Speaker
um I don't know. I feel like I had friends in sort of every echelon. Yeah. And we're floater. Yeah, I was a floater. But here now on the other side, I have like zero friends from high school. So I feel like that's not like in a negative way, not like I'm like, I hate them and they hate me. But like, I just didn't necessarily form close attachments yeah in high school specifically. I don't either, really. I mean, I think people are like that. Yeah, Charlie is the minority and that his group of high school friends, 90 percent of them have are now engaged and we will have been at all of their weddings. That's so weird to me. They've known each other since they were 11, like Hogwarts. Wow. But it's also like such a classic Charlie move to be like, I like this thing and then never get a new thing. And that is people in his life.
00:23:23
Speaker
You're going to do well on this pod. Just keep bashing Charlie. It's my favorite. Charlie is the unofficial mascot of Go Get Your Girlfriend. He is. He was sassy with me in the group chat yesterday and I'm still mad about it. What did he do? You asked, i you were like, ask Charlie about our travel plan. I tried to ask him and he was like, well, read the message. And I was like, fuck you, Charlie. Did he spell wat W-O-T? In my head, that's how I read it. It doesn't matter how he spells it. He hears funny little voice. Except he's probably saying, what?
00:23:59
Speaker
Oh, Charles. I'm going to get a text message. yeah Charles likes yeah to text me as he live as he's listening to the podcast to, as he says it, defend himself from Emma's allegations and misattributions. We've known Charlie for like a decade, so I know that no matter what he's saying, it's a lie. It's a lie. It's a lie. I've met him, I know. and i usually And that's usually how I respond to him, too. I'm like, okay yeah okay, Charlie. Okay, Sure, Charlie. Okay, Charles. Good, Charles. Good boy.
00:24:42
Speaker
And his white knit jumper and his baby blue shorts. that's Oh my god. That's my favorite memory. Prince George. Yeah. Oh my god, Katie, did we tell you about the Renaissance, the Renfare story? We told you the runs. i think guys are having it i think I think I've heard several stories from the Renaissance Fair, but I'm not sure. with the this bi Oh, but he was wearing a sweater and it was way too hot. Yeah, a sweater in July. yeah In July to the Renaissance Festival in Bristol, Wisconsin. And we all went and it was because Charlie didn't have anything clean and our friend Mark was in town staying with us and they had gone out. I smartly went home. They went out with my cousin to a rooftop bar and got wildly drunk. So the next morning they were both hung over and I was like, la da da da da.
00:25:24
Speaker
And we took the train up to my parents to borrow my mom's car. And the entire ride, Charlie was complaining about how long his hair had gotten. And he goes, Oh, my hair, my hair's too long, my hair's too long. And he goes, Emma, Emma, can you can you Can you make me an appointment to go, can you drop me off to go at a haircut place so that they can cut my hair before the Renaissance was born? I was just like, I don't think we're going to have time to. her You wanted to get a haircut the day of? The day of, like as we got, it I was like, I think it was like some holiday weekend. So everywhere it was booked. You wanted like a sports clip, clips, sports clips, clips, sports clips.
00:26:06
Speaker
like or you want like Yeah, to just go there, but it was like fully booked. It's for men who want a haircut who are not gay. who are not gay, don't worry, not gay. Sports. And so he had no other shirts except for this giant H and&M like cable knit white sweater. so stupid And then he wore these blue shorts, these light blue shorts to sort of off play it. And it was 90 degrees. And then it started to rain when we were at the ranch office as well. And he was walking around, he had longer hair so he was miserable. He was hungover so he was miserable. And he had a sweater on so he was miserable.
00:26:42
Speaker
and people were turning around people in like chain mail were turning around going dude i don't know how you're doing that props to you for wearing that sweater man he had so many opportunities to just like buy a t-shirt they're trying to yeah he wouldn't do it because he didn't like them he didn't like any of the t-shirts i'd rather suffer complain I took him to go buy a t-shirt. And he was like, I'm not spending $30 on a Renaissance festival t-shirt. This story makes my blood boil. That's insane. i want tola i've never been I've never been to the Renaissance festival. I would like to go. I think i might maybe we'll go this year. It's fun. I think we got like, what, two sentences into the plot? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Lisa swallows.
Podcast's Narrative Style & Film Edits
00:27:30
Speaker
I don't know if you, have you listened to the podcast before Madison? It's always like this. I, yep. I'm familiar. Okay. Yep. Yep. I, I listened to Dungeons and Daddies pretty religiously, which I love that. If I'm familiar with the movie, I'll listen to your podcast. Thank you very much. Put it up a Lindsay Lohan movie, lu Lohan movie. And I was like, no, I'd rather eat gravel. So I didn't listen. Oh, but it was bad. It's a good episode. It's a good episode. like You don't have to see the movie because we'll tell you everything that happens. Yeah, the movie was really bad, Madison. i believe Well, I saw the poster.
00:28:08
Speaker
Maybe I'll try it. Maybe I will get it away. It's a public service that we provide. Yeah. I'm listening to Gothic romance novel books on tape. That's what I'm doing right now. To prep for my thesis. And right now I'm listening to Wilkie Collins's The Haunted Hotel. Three chapters in and he has never spoken about the hotel. We have yet to talk about the hotel. I hate that. I'm near leader chapter four. They're mostly talking about this countess who they're like, she's Italian and therefore a whore.
00:28:40
Speaker
um yeah So andre hopefully we get to the haunted hotel soon. We'll see. I mean, we've seen Moonstruck. Did you do Moonstruck? You should do Moonstruck. We did do Moonstruck. Charlie famously hated it. Charlie is- And I'm not over it. I'm i'm in a beef with Charles over Moonstruck versus- What do you think about what he likes versus what he doesn't like? I just want to hit him with a car. The decoy bride? The movie that he loves is the decoy bride, which is the most like anodyne fucking fake Irish bullshit.
00:29:17
Speaker
Charles. That's embarrassing. He's got a big Scottish constantly, constantly is um sort of rating all the movies that we watch compared to the decoy right now. Oh my god, I'm gonna call the police. I hate that.
00:29:36
Speaker
So Lisa swallows. Yeah. So, yes, she is sad because her mom is dead. Murdered obviously her. OK. While we're talking about the axe murder. Yeah. Let's just go ahead. Let's go. Yeah. That's biggest problem with the movie is like, what is that? It is. Do we think Dale did it or do we think it was evil stepmom? It had to be one of them too. You don't think it was either of them? I think it's like a totally, so I've heard, this movie was filmed here in New Orleans, where I've watched it. I've read that, that was gonna be one of my, Emma's Fun Facts, Emma's Fun Facts. That was beautiful. You're so very well. So I've heard through the grapevine of the local folk that there, so there is another cut of the movie that's like an X-rated cut of the film.
00:30:28
Speaker
And then when they showed that to producers, they were like, we cannot show anyone this movie. And then they cut a bunch of stuff out. And then what we got is the PG-13 version. So what the what I've what I'm told, sort of, is that there was more information about the axe murderer and its significance in the script and in the original cut. But it's not seen in the finished film. Because for me, I was like, oh, this is going to obviously matter in some way. And it doesn't. It doesn't matter at all. So I was just like waiting for that to happen. So I don't know. But that's my problem. It is like I feel like like she could they could have killed her any other way. Like it didn't matter that it was an expert. Yeah. And it felt like it needed to pay off and we never got it.
00:31:10
Speaker
Exactly. Yeah, I agree about the payoff thing. I think that one thing about it being an axe murderer is that it's it puts us in the like, this is kind of like the sequel to a an 80s slasher movie kind of. Yeah, that's very tropey for sure. Yeah. And like I get that and that was sort of the vibe the first time and like I kind of wanted it to tie back to Dale or to the um the stepmom because of all the little things that Taffy says she's just like, you know, yeah
00:31:42
Speaker
that how many like husbands her mom has had. And then the fact that Dale married her six months after the murder happened. It was just like all of these were like red flags for me to think that like, this was orchestrated in some fashion by this bitch lady. Yeah, Karla, maybe we'll get a director's cut, you know. Yeah, I really wanted to. I would love that. It just was like if you want it to be like an irreverent, like 80s like trope thing, it needed to be even more irreverent. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so that was my problem with the film overall, was that like I would be loving something and then they would do something that tonally just didn't match. Yeah. The rest of the film. And it would be like, oh, what is this? If they had just not done this thing, I feel like the movie would be perfect.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah, I totally agree. It doesn't quite match. Yeah, everything doesn't quite fit together perfectly. I think it's it's messy. It's a messy movie. Yeah. She's messy. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. um I'm sorry about elect... My next note that I wrote is I'm so sorry about electrocuting you, Lisa, which is Taffy. Okay, yes. For Taffy. I love her. Kathy convinces Lisa to use her tanning bed that she won in the Miss Junior Hawaiian Tropic beauty contest. But they're not in Hawaii. Well, Hawaiian Tropic is like the baby tube company. Oh, the sunscreen stuff. Yeah, yeah, the sunscreen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sunscreen, yeah. They used to have a restaurant in Times Square, which was basically like hooters with girls in bikinis. Yeah. I hate that. It was disgusting. What was the food?
00:33:20
Speaker
Because who I mean, I don't, like you know, Madison, I never, I never, I never made it there. I didn't go in. I'm so curious. But Katie, I feel like sliders and a lot of pineapple, but like, maybe is it Hawaiian themed food? And if it is, well, what does that mean? What do they think Hawaiian food is? Like, is it a hot pig? Like what hamburgers with pineapple on it? Pineapple pizza. Yeah, it's probably that I would imagine. Yeah, that's probably what it is. But bring it back. Never made it there. I don't know if it's still there. Probably not. Like all of Times Square is. Yeah, no, it is over now. I mean, I was just in Times Square, guys. Humble breath and. um
00:34:04
Speaker
But not really, because it's the least, the worst brand of a brand we've had on this show yet. But um you know that like that like ah mall pizza place that's far everywhere? Sparos. Even Sparos in Times Square was closed. It had fur closed. Yeah. They still got the Olive Garden, the three-story Olive Garden in Times Square. The Olive Garden's still there. A Hard Rock Hotel has popped up. That's there. When I was living in New York, I had a friend from college.
00:34:37
Speaker
um coming to New York for an audition ah for, um, for something. I don't remember what it was, yeah but she was like, let's let, and, you know, and she's this, you know, kind of innocent girl from the South. She had never been to New York before. And she was like, well well, let's meet for dinner. And she's with her dad. And I'm like, okay, great. We'll meet for dinner somewhere. Where do you want to go? And she'll meet you at the Olive Garden in Times Square. And I'm like, no, really in the Midwest. That's pretty good. Yeah. ah You have all of New York to eat in and you eat at the Olive Garden in Times Square. I mean, to be fair, as someone who has just been to Times Square. Oh, my God.
00:35:15
Speaker
um There is not a single good place to eat in Times Square. It is all Chuck E. Cheese, the M&M store. I mean, we didn't have to go to Times Square at all. And you live there. um it Yeah, it it was hell. But anyway, so Lisa swallows. So. This episode is going to be as messy and disjointed as the movie itself, because I'm going to have to cut 90 percent of this out. Exactly. um So she Taffy takes her to a high school party. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she gets electrocuted in the tanning bed first, like shot. Yeah. Not, you know, killed. chance something so Just Just gently wrong with the tanning bed. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:02
Speaker
And they go to a high school party where um she gets drugged and assaulted. I was like, what, number one, I would understand like if someone accidentally gave her alcohol or like if that was just like a really strong drink and she just got like super buzz.
Plot Analysis & Supernatural Elements in 'Lisa Frankenstein'
00:36:22
Speaker
But then she was like dosed. She was dosed with like PCP is what the like her crush says. He goes, she just went from diet P to PCP. And I was like, I'm sorry, who's putting PCP in this yet? I don't think that's what it was actually was. I think he was just like making a,
00:36:41
Speaker
It makes you feel like an acid? An exaggeration. What kind of a liquid would have been put in a cup? Well, I remember Taffy was saying in the car, she was just like, so-and-so is bringing all this booze. And then so-and-so got the nitrous from his dad's dental office. And I was like, what? Kids are doing nitrous. So I guess anything's possible. Yeah. I guess acid. I don't know. Or just I don't know. And then, yeah, she gets sexually assaulted by, of course, as we all would predict, predict the nerd. Always. It's always the nerds. It's always the nerds. I was sort of hoping that we're going to set him up to be her, like, sad. Right. he Like, I love you, Lisa. And he was going to follow her like, like her like ducky. or Yeah, ducky.
00:37:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I assumed that she would be the mad scientist and that he would be her Igor and then he assaulted her and I was like, kill him. but Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Which does end up happening. Yeah. Yeah. So she gets sexually assaulted and then freaks out as anyone would and walks home um only to then see her reflection. And because she is super drugged, she punches the mirror. And also because her mom was murdered about a year ago in front of her and she had to hear it. So girl dying over a lot of stuff going on in her brain. um So i I would not be mad if she punched my mirror. I would completely understand. But that's not how her stepmom takes it. Her stepmom, the next morning, ah Taffy wakes her up, which, number one, I laughed because this was the first time I realized that she this was the fun, like weird dream sequence.
00:38:25
Speaker
where she dances with Cole Sprouse as like his like stone self. As a bust come to life. Yeah, as a bust come to life. And then Taffy comes and wakes her up and she totally, she's been jerking off. And she goes, it's okay, everybody does it. That was like old Kathy. You're glossing over the fact that while she's in this drug-induced coma, she passes through the cemetery where a magical lightning storm hits the bust of unnamed, unmarried, dead guy. Unnamed, unmarried, dead guy. And then she goes home. Which, of course, as we know, when a lightning works, brings him back to life.
00:39:07
Speaker
Yeah, right. well And before she's just like, she's so upset that she says to the grave, she goes, I wish I was with you. And then she says later, no, no, no, that's not what I meant. I didn't mean like with you with you. I meant like, I wish I was dead. Yeah. I was like, well, so that's the inciting incident. We're at 46 minutes and we've got yeah The plot. Perfect. And we're roughly 13 minutes into the film. Yes. This is how this goes. But yeah, so then the next day she wakes up, you find out she's got this sad job where she, well, not sad. I think it's actually a really cool job, but she works as a waitress. I think she likes it. Yeah, I think she likes it too. She's like, she works as a waitress as dry cleaners and she comes home and she's tired and her stepmom's being a bitch again.
00:40:01
Speaker
because she did not get her. or She's a vegetarian and she did not get Lisa vegetarian pizza. She just got meat lovers because she had a coupon deal for a free orange crash. Which is real, real happens all the time. God. and um And so poor Lisa doesn't get any pizza, and then they're all off to the movie and she's like, no, I'm too tired. So she stays home, and then there's there's a knocking at her door, and then a knocking at the window. And then Cole Sprouse comes through the window. Or probably like an underpaid stunt double. Yeah, probably an underpaid stunt.
00:40:40
Speaker
Someone I know locally. Yeah, probably. Probably someone you actually do know. Well, someone I know is in the movie. Really? My name is Wendy Michlovic. Yeah. Yeah. She's a very small woman. She's a stunt lady. And she's an actress. She was in a show with Nick. And she's credited as a mysterious figure. So I wonder if she's that thing. I think it's her from the window. Yeah. I don't know that for sure. But that would be my guess. That would be amazing. He's a very slight person. physically. He's teeny, tiny Cole Sprouse. But yeah, so he comes to the window and he's covered in gunk and he's gross and chases her around and she's, well, not chases, but like follows her around and she's thinking that she's being chased. So she's like throwing random shit of her stepmoms at Cole Sprouse. And then she escapes upstairs, goes out the window and she's dangling off. The neighbors all see her and there's a jogger and nope. That's my favorite thing about this movie is that nobody does jack shit. No.
00:41:39
Speaker
But that's there again, very tropey, very yeah killer trope that everybody's like, oh, that weird neighbor next door while they're watching her be attacked in the front yard. yeah Oh, no, not weird girl. Lovely. Not Tavi, the other one. I like that. I thought that was very clever and very stupid. but Yeah. And the same thing happens at to Taffy at the end when she is walking out and she's like in shock. And there's a guy in a car that's just like cruising by and he just passes by her. and She's like covered in blood and like horrified.
00:42:17
Speaker
Real. um Yeah. And he's not he's he's he's not complete. He's he's fucked up. Yeah. And he knows it. Yeah. He's missing a hand, can't talk. He doesn't have an ear. Yep. and I know about that until later. Right. Spoilers, Emma. And then she like falls on him and realizes that he's not trying to kill her. She immediately flips a 180 and then is like, well, let's give you a shower and give you a makeover. And it is one of the cutest sequences after the shower was kind of gross because he's got bugs that like come off of him.
00:42:58
Speaker
But, um, but the makeover montage. Very ladies trope. Yes. Dress him up. Absolutely. Yes. And she's going, yes. No. Doing all the things. And then he lives in her closet for a while. Yeah. He lives in her closet for a while. And the next day he picks out her outfit for school and she's like, no, this is too slutty. And he goes, no, no, no. But like not in a weird way. I think it's like this. It's a little in a like be confident way. Yeah. Yeah. But in a way that's charming. Exactly. Yeah, she looks great. Like, I honestly, rewatching this movie think that the reason that he picked that dress was because it's like the most similar to
00:43:40
Speaker
things that he would be used to seeing a woman wear. yeah Like, yes, it's like shorter, but like the neckline and like the dress and like the sleeves and everything. Yeah, it's like a full lace ensemble. Exactly. Like versus anything like jeans or anything that she would have in her closet. So to him, that's something that she should wear. um That's me thinking way too much into this movie. But no you're right. It's also like very feminine. Yeah. Comparatively, even though like we read it as like 80s goth to him, he'd be like, this is how women dress in 1840. Exactly. Exactly. So put on this dress and go be confident and beautiful.
00:44:15
Speaker
And so she is and she like goes and she's like feeling herself. And she also you find out earlier on that she has a huge crush on the guy who runs the li mag, the literary magazine, ah who is very 1990s, 1980s, pretty. He's got the floppy hair. He's got the jawline. He's got all the things. He wears the leather jacket. And he's got a goth friend. So cool. but complete He's very Jess from Gilmore Girls. That's his deal. Yes. Yes, exactly. But while she's at school, Cole Sprouse comes out of the closet and sort of follows around her stepmom, who's just listening because she's an intuitive person. And she's listening to like more of her seminars on tape.
00:45:08
Speaker
And she's walking around the house cleaning and doing stuff in like very jazzercise outfit. And he has seen her be terrible to Lisa. So he decides he's going to just spit out some of the bugs that are in him onto her food, which is very gross. Yeah. And ah that sort of like makes the situation way worse. Because then Lisa comes home from school. And I don't even remember what Carla what's her name's character's name is the stepmom. Carla did you know is the stepmom and her character's name is Janet.
00:45:47
Speaker
Janet. Oh yeah. Because at one point she goes, damn it, Janet. And this is another Emma's fun facts. Emma's fun facts. That was on purpose in the script because, uh, yeah, it was on purpose in the script because it, it is a, an Easter egg to record your picture show. No, no, no. I knew that. I was saying, is it fun? Is it a fun fact?
00:46:10
Speaker
Or is it just like ah I've seen a film and I can deduce this fact? Yeah, that's most of the IMDb trivia shit. It's like these people were in a movie together. Which is where Emma gets her fun facts. I do actually have a really fun fact that ah I'd love for you guys to know about Cole Sprouse and his preparation for this film because I didn't pay a lot of attention to his characterizations the first time because I was too busy being charmed.
00:46:41
Speaker
but ah So to prepare for his role as the creature, Cole Sprouse trained with a movement coach and a mime coach ah named Lauren Eric Salem for several months in Los Angeles. Salem helped Sprouse to develop the creature's movement. And because the character doesn't speak in the film, he used mime techniques to help Sprouse learn to express his thoughts, emotions, and personality entirely non-verbally, which I had never really paid attention to. how well he does do this is his physicality and how like characterized all of his emotions are and like his standing and everything until I rewatch it because the first time you just sort of like time right and you're like that's really quirky but like then I was like oh that was a choice
00:47:26
Speaker
Yeah, he's good in this. And like, I like Catherine Newton, too. I like um yeah both of them a lot. Catherine Newton. yes I've been a fan of her since she was on Halt and Catch Fire, the TV show. So I'm i'm glad that she's getting some some good roles. She's great. I just saw her in, was it Abigail? little yeah Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen that. it good yeah I liked it a lot. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, If you've seen the trailer to the film, you know what they structure as the like midway point surprise twist. Yeah. So I was like, why did you guys tell us the big twist anyway? But other than once you've seen the trailer, there's no more big twist. That's the big twist. yeah But it's fun. It's very fun. The little vampire child is incredibly impressive. I don't know who she is. It's Matilda Matilda. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's great.
00:48:20
Speaker
Um, what's his name? It's the guys who did ready or not. And that would be why it's so good. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I would recommend it. We saw it in the theater. Nick bought me a large popcorn. I had a lovely afternoon. Amazing. Cute little date night. Yeah. Afternoon. Date afternoon. The only afternoons. Because we go to see movies at two on a Sunday as if we were an elderly couple. I love that. I love that. Yeah. What other way is there to see a film in your 30s? No other way. Yeah, that too. um So anyways, so then you get Cole Sprouse and Lisa, lisa they discovered that, ah oh, Cole Sprouse kills um Janet because she's threatening to put Lisa in the Looney Bin, AKA in asylum. Well, she apparently which works.
00:49:16
Speaker
yeah Which I'm like, what's the what's that all about? I have some questions about that sort of like structurally. What does that have to do with the movie? Why is that? It's like awfully convenient. Right? I do think it's funny that like Taffy brings it up several times that she's like, Mom, you work there. Mom, you can't say that. You work there. You're a mental health nurse. Maybe she like released the patient who was the serial killer who killed Lisa's mom. Like maybe it was intentional. Maybe that's what that is. I love that. So many questions. Yeah. We need to find the script or like the director's cut of this movie because we got it now. Cole, listen, Cole, I feel like based on what I'm led to believe, you Google yourself a lot and maybe you're going to listen to this podcast, Cole. Cole, could you just like let us know? Can we look at the script? We have some questions. Send us an email. Go get your girl plot at Gmail dot com. Yeah, please. Yep.
00:50:12
Speaker
Shoot us a text, Cole. Yeah, or s sign to our DMs. We love all these ways of connecting with us. Please. Please, Cole Sprouse. But yeah, so they use the opportunity of killing Janet to, well, Cole Sprouse does, to chop off her ear and gives it to Lisa, who's just like, I don't know what you want me to, you want me to sew it on? OK, I guess I'll sew it on you. And so she does. She knows how to sew. She's a seamstress. She knows how to sew. But he still can't hear out of it. It still doesn't work. It's not alive for dead ear. Exactly. And so he gives her the hint by like drawing a lightning bolt on her hand being like, we need some electricity. because see like he He knows it all. And so she's like, oh, oh, the tanning bed. So then she puts him in the tanning bed, and it works. And he can hear. And each time he goes into the tanning bed, he looks better and better and better, less dead.
00:51:08
Speaker
which is really- And he's got like a little diamond stud earring for the rest of the movie too. Yeah, which they keep alluding to because um Taffy was supposed to get those diamond stud earrings for like nailing her back tuck, which she did. Oh Taffy. And she wanted to tell her mom. and But um mom has disappeared and Taffy thinks that mom's been- Yeah, she was supposed to go to a conference. She's supposed to have come to Milwaukee, yeah and she never made it. And I love the scene where they're on the phone with the police. And and too, it's so funny. Taffy's describing her to the cop. And she goes, she's got hazel eyes, but she wears green contacts to really bring them out. She's got brown hair. her She smells like white diamonds by Elizabeth Taylor. and mean You don't hear what the other guy says, but she goes, yes, she is a bitch.
00:52:03
Speaker
That's like a bit. Oh, she's really great. Like literally, she doesn't have that many lines, but every line that she has, she nails. Like her delivery is just so good consistently throughout the whole movie. Lisa Soberano is Taffy. Oh, I love her. Lisa's like, he's an intellectual. And Taffy goes, oh, he's in a wheelchair? No, she says, he's cerebral. He's cerebral. He's in a wheelchair? Like, oh, bless you. Right. Right. Oh, my God. I love her. Just all the, like, one-liners where she's like, uh-huh. Yeah. Me too, Lisa. Wink. I know. It's like, oh, my God. So we've got to speed this plot up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They start murdering people and using the body parts, giving the body parts to Cole Sprouse.
00:52:55
Speaker
um The guy who assaulted her, they murder in the cemetery. She lures him to the cemetery, they murder him, cut off his hand, he gets a hand, now he's got a hand. Yeah. And he plays the piano. And he gets to play the piano. Wow. We're learning about each other. But then here's my issue with the film is that like he clearly is so in love with her from the drum. And it's yeah I don't necessarily buy that she doesn't get it. Yeah. like like The film wants us to believe she's like unaware that he's desperately in love with her until the very end. And I'm like, what's wrong with you?
00:53:29
Speaker
What are you talking about? He so obviously loves her. And it's just sort of like, is she just so blinded by like the fact that she's got like this like friend and she doesn't understand that he's like crushing on her or do they just, do the actors have too much chemistry? I guess the idea is that she can't, she can't tell like because he can't talk and because like, you know, um, She's just oblivious in the way that some people are oblivious when people are flirting with them. But yeah, it is it's very odd. Also, we know we're watching like a movie with a romantic like subplot. So it's different.
00:54:11
Speaker
Oh, fuck off. That's how you sneeze, really? How have I never heard you sneeze? I've heard you sneeze before. I did have a thought though in the scene when towards the end when she's just like she she knows that the cops are sort of gaining on them because the guy that sexually assaulted her that they murdered has gone missing and obviously he his parents are freaking out and he's presumed kidnapped or murdered. And so the cotton they find his body in the cemetery. Oh, yeah, they find his body. And um the goth girl witnessed Lisa putting the note into his locker to meet up. And then people at the lake where they met up like she didn't really cover her tracks very well. She's not good at murdering bad murder.
00:54:54
Speaker
Yeah, she was a bad murderer. And and so the cops are closing in on her and she's just like, well, I just I can't die a virgin. I don't want to die a virgin. So she wants to beg her crush, to which Cole Sprouse is like not really not cool with, but like he still is around because he loves her. And there was the moment in the car when she is sort of like telling him off, that she's just like um she's like, no, stay here. You know what? You need to such and such and such and such. I do all the talking and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She's just sort of like telling him out how it is. And it's just so reminiscent. I feel like I've seen that scene in so many different movies where it's sort of flip-flopped, where it's the guy who doesn't realize that the girl is in love with him.
00:55:39
Speaker
and that he's just sort of like telling her to like cool it and to like chill off because she's being too protective of a friend. um But because it was like flip-flopped and it was the girl telling the guy, it was just like, it was kind of refreshing, but also like, I think that it was just a little bit jarring because we've never really seen that sort of reversal before or like that common in film. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, I just think that I was like, are you stupid? He's clearly in love with you. Like by that point in the film, I was like, Lisa, what's wrong with you? This hot zombie is so here for you. What's wrong with you, Lisa? He's so and then And then once she gets it, and well, first they go to her crush's house where you find out Taffy's been banging her crush. Oh, Taffy. Taffy. Taffy, Taffy, Taffy. Poor, stupid Taffy.
00:56:33
Speaker
And her crush is like, I don't have these feelings about you, Lisa, even though he's been flirting with her through the movie. I'm like, fuck you, dude. And then Cole Sprouse comes in and he chops off this guy's dick. Big time. but And then attempts to murder Taffy. But Lisa says, no, don't murder Taffy. And she takes Taffy into the car. And ah she says to Taffy, she gives her this beautiful speech, which is looks like, you actually wanted me to be my sister. And you actually like, you know, introduced me to people and were really kind to me. And I want to thank you for that. And then she's like, gotta go. Bye. And she runs after Cole Sprouse, who's at the cemetery.
00:57:17
Speaker
and discovers Cole Sprouse doesn't have a dick. And well, number one, Cole Sprouse loves her, which we all knew. Number two. Well, she's gonna kill him. She was yeah the creator who was willing to kill the creature. yeah And then she's like, oh, we you love me. And then, oh, no, you don't have a penis. Yeah. Oh, you love me. Oh, you want to bang me. Oh, you don't have a penis. Oh, wait. You cut off my crushes, penis. And you just cut it with you? But you brought one. You don't have one, but you brought one from home. If you don't have one, store-bought is fine. BYOB penis. Oh, this brings me to an excellent note that I... Well, I think it's an excellent note. Why doesn't she use thread that blends with his skin tone? She uses, like, red and green. But you know, it's what she's got.
00:58:08
Speaker
She's at a time crunch. Yeah, maybe. How much like flesh colored thread do you have laying around at your immediate disposal? I mean, I've got a ton. I'm in my sewing room. That's true. She is. She does have a sewing room. She's not into. um Oh, God, never mind. I can't think of the word I want to use. What's that shit you do? He gave us the pillow. Needle point? Cross stitch? Needle point. Needle point. Oh, and I said, close process, two hands. And then I said, LOL, I can't fight this feeling that I stopped taking notes because I was too into the movie. I just read that that's a cover by early 2000s songstress Jojo. What? Jojo is singing Ario Speedwagon? Yes, I read that.
00:58:59
Speaker
like ah And I was like, what a strange choice. what reason Very strange, but that's what I read. I love that so much. Also, fun fact, I'm sure you guys know, but this movie, there's no actual tie to it, but it has been confirmed by Diablo Cody that this is in the same fictive universe as Jennifer's body. Well, what does that mean? I don't know mean Diablo. Clarify that. They take place 30 years apart from each other. Oh, my God. Hold on. I figured it out. I know why JoJo did it because Zelda Williams' previous directing credits include music videos by JoJo. Ah. This was just Zelda Williams being like, nepotism. I'm going to make a movie with my friends. Yeah. And then she did it. There is a really cute, and this is going to be my final, Emma's Fun Fact, Emma's Fun Fact.
00:59:56
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it over every time. At the very end of the movie, you see Cole Sprouse with Lisa after Lisa has committed suicide. And he is reading over that part. Yeah, we'll get back to it.
01:00:18
Speaker
It's the most chaotic episode of the most chaotic podcast of all time. She sews on a penis. She puts him through the machine. He comes out, and he's like fully realized, flesh human man, Cole Sprass, with his floppy Victorian hair and his cute face. Yeah. They bone. But we don't see that because we get that lovely cartoon sequence, which is so cute and so clever. and Instead of like showing weird teen sex, we get this lovely cartoon sequence. Yes. And then, uh, she kills herself and gives him that lovely note, which I think is in the tanning bed. She gives them she kills herself the note. Yeah, because she just know the cops are coming. The worst way to die. Like, couldn't you just like, she was in the head or something instead of self emulating in the The only thing that she has at her disposal is the tanning bed.
01:01:12
Speaker
Or an axe. Jump off something. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Like, you've got a car and a garage. There's many ways to kill yourself. She could have just, like, she could have put that car in the garage and, like, gas or something. Like, there are so many less physically horrifying, painful ways. Just jump off the roof.
01:01:35
Speaker
Thematically, yes. It makes sense. That's where I was like, you don't have to kill yourself. Like, you could just be on the lamb. Like, it's okay. Yeah, but no. Victor Frankenstein doesn't kill himself. No, he survives. But like, yes to the artstic feminism. What? That's true. The creature goes. That's the only place he can live. Oh, in the actual Frankenstein. Because he's sad. Yeah. Do you think that the creature read Frankenstein? I would hope so. I mean, at some point, I mean, like he's reading, what is he reading? So he's reading to her. I was gonna say, why didn't he quote Frankenstein? Well, because that would be a little too long. He's reading a Mary Shelley poem. Oh, okay. It's a Mary Shelley poem. I was gonna say, why didn't he read like bits from Frankenstein at the end? I think that that would have been really sort of full circle. Well, it's Mary Shelley.
01:02:30
Speaker
she wrote Frankenstein. So I think instead of them being like, do you get it? Instead, they can be like, they love each other. Yeah. Do you get it? um you good So he brings her back to life. And she's all burned. And he's reading to her and assuming like, she'll get better and they'll live happily ever after. But he doesn't have a tongue at the end of the movie. Even though he's like a fully human realized flesh man, technically he's got a penis, but he doesn't have a tongue at the end of the movie. like That's like one of the pieces he's missing. Maybe he got a tongue in between. He had to go out and get one. Yeah. And like put it in. And like he's been working on this for some time. He's self-actualized. It's either that or like going through the tanning bed so many times made him grow back his tongue.
01:03:19
Speaker
I hope that he like took the tanning bed out of the like burned remains of the garage yeah and then used that same tanning bed to bring her back to life and to continue reviving himself. That would be it. poetic, I think, if that were to happen. But the ending for me was when I was like, what is this? I'm unclear on what is yeah happening here. Are they both dead? Well, I'm sure Cole Sprouse in his contract was like, I got to have some lines, guys. You got to give me something. Please. It's me. Disney Channel's Cole Sprouse. Riverdale's Cole Sprouse. This completes our Riverdale trilogy, actually, because we've done. Yes.
01:03:57
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This is the third movie we've covered featuring a primary cast member River at Riverdale, which means KJ Appa needs to do a rom com so we can get all four. That's really weird. Yeah. Well, they all have a lot of downtime in between seasons. Well, they're also like all kind of in that great nebulous age range where they could be any age. Yeah. In reality, they're all like over 30. But yeah. Yeah. but really they could play any age. But- You cut you off doing your last Emma's Fun Fact like six times now, so please- I was gonna say- What is the fun fact? This brings me to Emma's Fun Fact. Emma's Fun Fact. Every goddamn time.
01:04:39
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So, in that scene when he is reading poetry to her on the bench, you will notice that he's wearing some new digs. He's got some suspenders on. And those suspenders are rainbow suspenders that are purposefully in there as a nod to Morky, which was a Robin Williams here. Mork. Mork, Emma. Sorry, Mork. more more more indeed from but That's where I blended the two, Mork and Mindy. Morky. That's like their dog. From Mork and Mindy, which is a Robin Williams character and Zelda woman. Zelda Williams is paying homage to her dad. That wasn't worth it. and fact I also feel like like cute idea Zelda, but it doesn't read.
01:05:29
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I don't know. But that's what that like, it is so unspecific to Robin Williams. Like, I get that in her mind that she's like, everyone's going to get this. But no, you're wrong.
01:05:43
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Also, Robin Williams never did any horror. I mean, yeah, he was a comedian. But I mean, he I'm thinking a lot of comedians have done horror films. Well, I mean, he did one hour photo where he's like, that's a thriller. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would consider that a horror though. Like it is obviously a thriller, but it is horrifying. Yeah.
01:06:08
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Yeah, but he didn't do like any, he didn't do like any sort of like campy horror. So like he doesn't fit in this realm. If she were to do something that took place in the 90s, that was like very 90s of five. I feel like that would be more put your amounts to your dad than that. The pictures wearing a t-shirt with the genie from a lab. Yeah, exactly. There you go. You're playing Jumanji. They're playing Jumanji. Somebody's watching Mrs. Doubtfire in the background. yeah you know There's a big poster for Good Will Hunting.
01:06:39
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yeah
01:06:41
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We're traveling through time and space. With Robin Williams. I love that. Charlie is sending me texts, and he wants me to say things on the podcast. No, Charles. You mentioned that you love Enter Shikari. Oh my god. I don't know what that is. What is that? It's this band that Charlie loves and Emma hates, that he is upset that we have. They're an emo band, apparently. I've never heard of emo. Oh, sorry. They're not even emo. They're post-hardcore, according to Charles, because he got upset that we called them an emo band.
Enter Shikari Fan Moments & Birthday Plans
01:07:18
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Gross, Charlie. I couldn't possibly care. My friend Gia, who- 100% of your pod listeners enjoy them. My friend Gia likes Enter Shikari, but she did clap. I'm sorry to tell you, Charlie, she did call them an emo band, so.
01:07:30
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ah Yeah. We're spending his birthday weekend, or our birth, because both of our birthdays are in October. He has already purchased an Enter Shikari ticket. He's not forcing me to go this time. I'm going to go see a show or something. But like I still have to drive us to New York so that he can see Enter Shikari. Where they playing? Madison Square Garden? God, no. Yep. They're doing a 12-night run at Madison Square Garden. They're probably just yeah they're just playing in the middle of Times Square. They're playing in the middle of Times Square with just like a top hat. They're busting at the 34th Street end. They're playing Times Square. They're going to be dressed as Elmo.
01:08:20
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So watch out. I hope that they listen to your podcast. I hope that they do. Boy oh boy. We're not emo, we're post hardcore. well Rawr! Does anybody have any other thoughts, feelings, or opinions? I think we got it all out in the first 30 minutes before we got to the plot.
Film Aesthetic Review & Future Plans
01:08:45
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Um, this movie is fun. This movie is fun. It's not super fun. I think it's messy. And, but I think the aesthetic is really cool. It's definitely like, I mean, it's got big timber and vibes, obviously, which is impossible to ignore, but yeah it is, it does have a visual aesthetic, which is better than most movies that are coming out nowadays. Yeah. Yeah. So it's hard to fault it. It is. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's violent and romantic. And that's the kind of thing that we like on this podcast. It's all the things I like that it can't decide if it's going to be a slasher or if it's going to be just like a really pure rom-com. Yeah. And it's I wouldn't even necessarily call it like a horror comedy because it's not. It's really a horror rom-com. Yeah. Yeah. So specific. Yeah. Yeah. It's really fun.
01:09:36
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Uh, the, the chemistry between the two leads, I think is like why it works yeah when they're on screen together. Those are the best moments for sure. Um, and again, special shout out to Taffy. Everyone's everyone's fave. Everyone's MVP of this movie Taffy. Um, so we do the white sweater on this podcast. Um, does Madison, what would you say your white sweater is? Is it Taffy? What does that mean? and What does that mean? The white sweater is something. So it comes from When Harry Met Sally, which is our first episode where Billy Crystal has the famous white sweater. So it's the thing, an object, or it can be anything, really. The one thing that you think is like. Yeah, it could be it could be a place or a person or a thing or any kind of a noun and then some kind that you want to like take out of the movie and and have and and and hold like your favorite little bit, your favorite little guy. Yeah. Oh.
01:10:33
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The piano scene is playing the piano is my favorite. I think that that's like, if I were going to rewatch a section of the movie, it's that because it's so sweet and so silly. yeah So that's not really a noun, but it's that point of the film. yeah yeah Absolutely. I like her bedroom a lot. Yeah, her bedrooms. and Yeah, I like that. Um, I think my right white sweater is taffy. I would watch just a smash cut of just the taffy scenes. Yeah, she so good. She's so good. And she's so funny. And just she makes every single line every single line if it was like a less actor, it wouldn't work. But she just she nails every delivery. It's just yeah so good. Absolutely brilliant. yeah
01:11:21
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Um, so the Charlie's Corner for today's film is and you want yeah Charlie's Corner. Um, we do ask Charlie every film on a rating from ozone to baseball where he finds this movie.
01:11:39
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ah Sometimes it's a number. Sometimes it's just a vibe. Baseball, of course, Madison being Charlie's favorite movie and the top of the list. I know. Again, I'm going to call the police.
01:11:55
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um charlie Charlie said he really loves this movie. His favorite thing about this movie is the colors. Okay. Yeah. the color It's got some good colors. It's got some good colors. i He did study lighting design. I get why he loved the colors. That's true. Yes, he is a lighting designer. What movie are we doing next, Katie? Okay, next we are um actually um I think I want to stay in the 80s vibe. But I think it's it's different enough that it'll work. Because we've never we haven't done a Sandler and I want to do The Wedding Singer.
01:12:37
Speaker
Oh, yeah. OK. I was worried. I was worried. You were worried. I was worried. That's a great movie. The Wedding Singer is great. I was worried that you were going to make us do like Happy Gilmore or something. No, God. That's not a rom-com, is it? I know. But I don't know. No. No. I think the only, well, I'd say 51st Days and The Wedding Singer. 51st Days and The Wedding Singer, which are both good. And they're both Drew Barrymore and Adam Sandler. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good combo. It's a good combo. I love that. I love that. Amazing. Madison, do you have anything to plug? Oh, well, um, not till October, but in October, I'll be directing Jen Silverman's The Moors, which if you like Lisa Frankenstein, you're going to love The Moors. It is another female focused Gothic romance music. Um, there's a lot of murder.
01:13:30
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And there's gay love. It's super great. So if you find yourself at the University of New Orleans or in the area of New Orleans this October, come check us out. Yeah. And we're where can people follow you on socials? They can follow me at Madison Smith on Instagram or my website, madisonsmithdirecting dot.com. Amazing. Go check her out. She's great. Yeah. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate interview us on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it. Thanks to Andrew Milliken and Nyx Fabota for our theme music and Alana Henderson for her artwork. You can follow us on Instagram at go get your girl pod or email us at go get your girl pod at Gmail. You can follow me on social media at Emily M pizza.
01:14:23
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and me at Katie of the Lake. Until next time, we're just two girls. Standing in front of the internet. Asking it to love us.
01:14:35
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Goodnight.