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The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society
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This week Emma and Katie dive into the 2018 not so much Com but definitely Rom movie The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. Tune in as they chat all things WW2, sexy pig farmers, the nazi of it all but ALSO the 2024 horror movie Longlegs, the aristotelian elements of drama and much much more!
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Valentine's Day Movie Picks and Awkward Slang
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well happy
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Oh, yes. So perfect. Brilliant.
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I mean, all of our movies are perfect for Valentine's Day. Yeah. Just our pod on Valentine's Day. yeah just binge our pod on valentine's day Yeah, binge our pod. don't like that.
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I don't like that either. That makes me sound really not... and sounds like I'm trying to be down with the kids. Well, it sounds like a dreadful euphemism is what it sounds like. i don't necessarily like... Binge our pod.
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Yeah, she'd binge on my pod till i and't cast. I don't know. Till I cast? yeah Like witch? I don't know.
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News flash in from the youth. Coming is now called casting. ah Yeah, so that's the first that's the first minute of this show.
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Amazing. That's right, guys. You guessed it.
Introduction to 'Go Get Your Girl' Podcast and 'The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society'
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This is Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Emma and Katie... first struggling to deal with their ptsd for world war two and um start a little pen pal relationship and get inspired to go to the this random weird island that somehow is part of england uh it's not actually it's not yeah we'll get into it continue oh okay
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uh and um they go we go and we meet a hottie mcaut pants but oh no we're engaged to katie's boyfriend glenn howell who's kind of a dick sometimes but also not so bad like he just wants the best for us uh but we can't get over world war ii and we love books That's right, guys.
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Thomas, did you not like that intro? I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. um Did we say it's go get your girl? Yes, we did. Okay.
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And today we are talking about, I'm going have to read it, the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. Yes. um Which, like, I can't believe they let them call that this.
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I also cannot believe that either. This, that. yeah I couldn't even write the entire name for this ah but this recording room.
Background of the Film and Its Unique Writing Collaboration
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I just called it Literary Peel. Well, even my notes, I couldn't get it out all the way.
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Like, I had to, I cut off at Peel. Yep. ah ran out of space. So this is from 2018. It is directed by Mike Newell, who this is the second Mike Newell we've done on this podcast. He he is directed Four Weddings and a Funeral.
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Oh my gosh. He also directed Mona Lisa Smile and ah The Goblet of Fire. oh And Pushing Tin. He's like just all over the place. Like just a director has directed a lot of random shit. A journeyman director, we would call that.
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um It is written by Don Roos and Kevin Hood. And also... um Thomas Bezcalin.
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um And Don Roos wrote Marley and Me and Single White Female um and has thought a lot of kind of all over the place credits. yeah it's like What is going on in that boy's brain?
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A lot of TV. A lot of a lot of TV as well. Okay. Yes. And this is based on a book written by Marianne Schaffer and Annie Behrens.
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They are an aunt and to niece who wrote the book
Challenges of Adapting an Epistolary Novel to Film
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together. and the aunt died before the book came out. Oh, that's very sad. um And she was a librarian and a bookseller and like like that kind of person. i i'm at And the other part the the niece, Annie Behrens, was so a writer who wrote children's books. So I think that you know she probably did most of the writing and it was like a yeah like a project they worked on together. you know um It was an epistolary novel, which is kind of all over this movie. Like it's very obvious.
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um It's so hard to film epistolary novels. i think That's where it's letters, right? Yes, the whole book is made of letters. And I remember this book, I said in a previous episode, I think I was working at a bookstore when this book came out. That's not true. um Oh! I was, well, because it came out in 2008.
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um So it came out before I was um working at a bookstore. um Or um on my own. And...
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So I
Geographical and Historical Context of Guernsey
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must have just seen it because the title is so like yeah evocative or maybe that like it was a new edition or like a new cover or something because yeah. Yeah. um Or like it was in a book club or something. So it got like an end cap or you know what i mean? Yeah. um Bookstore stuff.
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um And it is about Guernsey. Which, a little history about Guernsey. Guernsey is a self-governing protectorate of Britain.
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ah It is not a part of the UK. it is not governed by the UK, but the Queen, or the Prince Charles, or whatever his name is, is the monarch.
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Yeah. I'm not going to say it. um Much like like Canada or Australia or, you know, any of those other kind of places. ok i but yeah I don't know if it's part of the Commonwealth. It's a protectorate.
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Um, oh so it is not, it's technically not part of the United Kingdom. And it is, it's right off the coast of France. Like it's a channel Island, but it's, yeah, but it's much close. It was part of Normandy for a long time. Um, yeah until it's right next to Jersey, which is another one that's like very similar.
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um yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of weird channel islands. Yeah. Yeah. Um, there's a really great movie that takes place on Jersey, um, called beast. It's a little bit, Oh, ah yeah Charlie just sent me his Charlie's Corner in a text.
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Is it about Guernsey? Has he been to Guernsey? He has not been to Guernsey. um He has been he's gone past it I think. I don't know. He did a cycle tour in France and he was in his youth.
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Believe it or not. In Bicyclete? yeah Bicycle it. Yeah, and in high school, he did like a little cycle tour as like a field trip, you know.
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Walk those on. Yeah. Walk those on. But ah but he he had seen it, like, you know, the really awful looking lookouts that the Nazis build on Guernsey?
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He had seen some of those in France and he was like, they're awful. They're terrible. They're sure Yeah, and there are museums and stuff now, I imagine. Yeah. Oh, yeah. ah But, yeah, he didn't have a lot of insight on Guernsey. He just told me that it is an island, and it's next to Jersey, and then there's a third one where there are no cars.
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cannot drive That's nice. That's so nice, right? right um Yeah, there's a couple places like that. Yeah. um It's like Venice, you know, like there's, I mean, I guess there are cars in Venice, but it's, it's still like most of the streets are like in in the, in the, you know, in the piazzas and the place like right on the canals and everything. There's no cars and and down there.
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um It's great. There should be more places with less
Plot Overview: Nazi Occupation and Book Club Formation
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cars. Boston like put their highway underground and now this whole area is car free. It's really nice. Really?
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Oh my goodness. Yeah, it took them like 30 years or something, but they ran the highway under and and like freed up all that space. yeah That's so nice. Yeah. but Yeah.
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yeah but So the the Guernsey
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see Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society ah starts off with...
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We start off with a little snippet from the past, which is... Yeah, this movie is constantly moving back and forth about five years from nineteen from like the middle of the war to out right after the war, yeah.
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Yes, because the war is World War Two. france Yeah, the war is World War Two. Yes. But because Guernsey was so close to France, Guernsey got occupied by the Nazis, which is obviously not great.
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Nobody likes Nazis. Well,
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I wish we could say that. I wish we could say that, too. If I say it enough, maybe it'll make it true. Unfortunately, ah Elizabeth and plenty of other people, especially in this country, seem to have no problem with Nazis. Yep.
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Yep. But we'll get into that. Continue. Yes. um I did forget that little tidbit about movie. I knew you had forgotten it because i knew because Caitlin and I were watching it and she was like, wait, what?
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And I'm like, there's no way Emma remembered that.
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Why of all time would I recommend that we watch this movie? I i was just like, yes, because you're going to fight against the Nazis in their own way by having this one of them by fucking him. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, calling it Nazi fucker, like would be, i guess, and also provocative title, but oh yeah definitely it's a little less cute than the Guernsey literary and potato peel pie society.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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um But yeah, so we start off with the creation of the Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society um because they're trying, there's a group of friends that are trying to get back home after curfew during the Nazi occupation and they get caught by the Nazis at trying to get home and they're like, why are you breaking curfew? And they said, we have a society.
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um and One of them throws up because the potato peel pie is disgusting. And because of the gin. He's drunk. Oh, oh yeah. They're all drunk.
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Yeah. Yeah. They're all drunk. Yeah. But I'm sure the potato peel pie did not help. Didn't help. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Katherine Parkinson's homebrew, like bathtub yeah gin, I think. Bath tub gin.
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Right? That she does in multiple different flavors and looked delightful. It did. But yeah, so they get caught and on the fly, ah the character of Elizabeth, who is played by, um my gosh. Jessica Brown Finlay.
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Yes. Lady Sybil from Downton Abbey. Yes, there are many Downton Abbey alums in this, actually. At least two. There's three. Oh, three. Yeah, three.
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Yeah. Yeah. um I'm sure more. if we I always forget that she was on Downton Abbey because I associated her with Doctor Who most strongly. Yeah. oh I was just like, wait, which one are you talking about?
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Oh, it could be any of them. um I finally, I wrote Penelope Wilton. Penelope Wilton. never remember her name. I always think of her as the Prime Minister from the 10th and 11th Doctor. Yeah.
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Yeah. Because they had that whole bit with, yes, we know who you are. Yeah. Oh, what was her name? I can't remember. She would also always go like, blah, blah, blah. I'm Elizabeth Jones or Harriet Jones. it was Harriet Jones.
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Harriet Jones MP. Yeah. Harriet Jones, Prime Minister. Yeah. We know who you are.
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oh man i loved it when doctor who had those little bits uh it was so dumb so good but so dumb um but yeah so we started off with that and then we flash forward to london town it's 1946 and it's that forest Yeah, 1946. And we are introduced to Lily James, the great Lily James. This is the third Lily James movie we've done on the podcast.
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How have we done so many Lily James movies? Well, two of them are Mamma Mia. Oh, no, she wasn't in the first Mamma Mia. So she's only in the second Mamma Mia. So it's just the second Lily James movie we've done. so Okay, just the second.
Divergence into Broader Film Discussions: Oscars and Storytelling
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We should cool it on Lily James. Lily James is great. I love Lily James. She is an underrated actor. Have you seen The Iron Claw? I haven't actually.
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Okay. Well, one day. that the wrestling movie? Yes. One day when you are willing to have your heart broken in a million pieces, um watch The Iron Claw. It's fucking fantastic.
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It's a goddamn crime. It's not a sports movie. First of all, it's not wrestling. It's pro wrestling. So it's like, it's their actors. They're not, they're not sports. No, it's not. It's not a sport. Okay.
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I'm sure the Venn diagram of wrestling fans and people who listen to this podcast, the overlap is very, very slim. So come at me. i yeah
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It's about like, yeah, it's about performance. It's not about sports. Yeah. iron Because it's because it's fake. Wrestling is fake. Yeah. Wait, what? um I learned that on Glow.
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Yes. Yeah. It's see, it's like glow. It's not like, yeah, it's like, what if a glow were a fucking tragedy? Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Um, it's a beautiful movie. Um, Zac Efron deserved an Oscar. Um, Lily James deserved an Oscar. They're, they're fantastic.
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It's a, um, it's a really beautiful and horribly sad movie and it got no nominations. And that's another reason why the Oscars are bullshit. Yeah. It's all bullshit.
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Yeah, it's true. It's all bullshit. Have you been doing the thing you do every year and watch all the Oscar nominees? I'm trying to. ah We watch the Kiernan Culkin, Jesse Eisenberg one, which is great.
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I really enjoy it. Sure, I've heard that. Yeah. Is that nominated for Best Picture? ah Yeah. And Kiernan Culkin's like a shoe in for best supporting. That's great. I've obviously i seen Wicked.
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um So check that box off. um Was Wicked nominated for best picture? I don't even know what's nominated for best picture. and i know that Amelia Perez is nominated and that that is supposedly the worst movie anyone's ever seen.
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Like the thing is, is that some people that I've talked to love it. Some people I've talked to hate it. Like it's, there's no in between. You know the like handshake emoji meme where it's like Mexicans, trans people, hate shaking hands, hating Amelia Perez. Like apparently it's just really offensive both. Because it's like a French cis white man made this movie about Mexicans and trans people and everyone is offended by it. Yeah. Yeah.
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And also the woman who plays the lead has all these like horribly racist tweets like coming up. And like it's... Like it's a hot, hot damn mess. A hot damn fucking mess.
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I've only seen a couple of videos from it. It seems horrible. I haven't seen anything. You haven't seen the like the thing that went viral? The the like sex change surgery song? ah song oh my God. Yeah, I i saw that and ah that was it. And because it beat out Wicked and every theater kid ever was like, are you fucking kidding me?
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It's beat out Wicked for the Golden Globe. If there's anything for like like that that shows like all these things are rigged, it's it's that yeah like nobody seems... I've never met anybody who's who's liked this movie, and yet it it gets nominated for all this. It won wins all these awards. It's insane.
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Yeah, it's absolutely insane. But Substance is on my list for sure. Oh, Substance is good. The Substance good, yeah. um And I just...
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Here's the thing. I can't do another Pope movie. can't do another. I've heard it's really good. Have you seen the but table read that they did with like Ayo from the bear and what's his name from?
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Ayo Adibri. Yeah. And what's his name from um Ted Lasso? ah Jason Sudeikis? No, the grumpy British guy.
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You'll have to be more specific. Okay.
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Let me, okay, so Conclave, I'll have to send you these videos ah because it's absolutely insane. They did, like, a staged reading of the movie Conclave, but with mostly comedians.
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And it fucking rules. It fucking rules. ah But yeah, I just, I can't do another Pope movie. And I can't do another like sad Adrian Brody World War II movie.
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Like nothing in my gut wants to watch The Brutalist or Conclave. No, I mean, we've had this conversation about the Brutalist already. It's like my friend Luke was like, hey, the Brutalist is going to play at the music this is music box. It's three and a half hours long about architecture. And I'm like, why would I do that?
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You know how sometimes you have a male friend and like you kind of forget that they're a man and then sometimes that they'll let they'll remind you but something like that? The other day luke Luke made us watch a movie called Punch Drunk Love which is something that we will we will not be doing on this podcast.
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Because like the best way to describe it is like the most misogynist rom-com you could possibly make I think. Have you seen it? uh no i have not but it's the one with um adam adam sandler sandberg yeah adam sandberg that's right yeah yeah no wait adam sandler
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ah combination of andy sandberg and adam sandler called adam sandberg um boy oh boy It's from like 2003, think. um It's really, really hard to watch. um And Luke loves it.
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It's like his favorite movie. And like, it's one of those things where sometimes it's like, I don't, I don't understand. And he showed this movie to three women who hated this movie all the way through.
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And like I had seen it before. Like I saw it in the theater because I, the guy who made this movie, PT Anderson, who is, I think a pretty well documented misogynist. Like a lot of his movies are are like, just like you made Phantom Thread. And Jesus is the most recent one.
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Well, I mean, like he also made There Will Be Blood, which I think is a good movie. um And Magnolia, which I really like. um And the reason I saw Punch Drunk Love in the theaters is because I had seen Magnolia and I really loved Magnolia.
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yeah um And at the time, you know, I was like, I was a kid when I saw that movie and I was like, I don't understand this, you know, it's not really registering.
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um But it is pretty. like it's shot It's really beautifully shot and like adam saying Adam Sandler is good in it, which is like the appeal that like the thing about that movie. It's like the first time he did something that wasn't a stupid comedy. you know Yeah, that was like um his like drama debut. Yeah, yeah. what's that And again, it's it's still kind of a comedy. It is kind of a rom-com, but it's about like this... Well, we don't need to get into what it's about, but it's... it's
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I can understand the artistic appeal in the visuals of that movie while I find the the the act of watching it repellent. And I think one of the big things about...
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film bros and a lot of people who are really into film as opposed to theater or something like that is storytelling is secondary to these people versus the visual art form and I have never been able to get behind that and I'm not saying that they're wrong um I'm saying that I don't understand it I don't see film that way I think film and theater and novels it's all story right Yeah. And the the, I mean, it's like the Aristotelian elements of drama, right? Like, yeah, spectacle is never number one.
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You know, when you put spectacle first, you get shit, you know, Starlight Express and cats and stuff like that, you know, Starlight Express.
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And, you know, a song from Starlight Express. Yeah, I mean, I assumed there would be a song called Starlight Express, but I don't know it. There was. um And it is the only song I know from Starlight Express. Yeah, I think the other, you know, the other things, like, it tends to be like the writer. Like, when I teach playwriting, the first thing I talk about is the Aristotelian elements of drama, which I know that you know, but I guess I should explain to listeners who Yeah, explain to listeners.
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So Aristotle came up with, ah like, wrote an essay about, a series of essays about, like, hey, what makes a good play? Because it's ancient Greece, and we all see a lot of plays.
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So, and he kind of laid out white is what is, what makes a good play. And he came up with the seven elements of drama, which are plot, plot, ah character theme um oh no uh music which is like language you know that kind of thing um you can do it huh oh no embarrassing you started off so strong katie spectacle yes as mentioned and then some other ones
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Oh, because there's six. There's six. That's why I was saying... I kept saying seven. It's not. and There's six. Okay. um and ah and And language. Yeah. So it's plot, character, thought, diction, spectacle, and song. So, yeah. Sometimes they're translated different ways. Like, music is... like I mean, they that a lot of them were musicals, literally. But it's... it's yeah How do you mean different things the way the way you translate it?
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um But... you kind of have to rank these things in terms of the story that you're telling or the production that you want to create. Like, what are the most important elements of this story to you?
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And I think that a lot of times modern filmgoers and theatergoers too, um put way too much emphasis on the way something looks and not enough on on on on the story, on the character, on what's being said.
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yeah um And that's just a ah different way to view things. Like in my in my writing, I write character plays. Like yeah the characters are more important than the plot in all of my plays, I think. yeah um So it's just different ways of of writing and telling stories.
Importance of Storytelling over Spectacle in Drama
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um And all of this has very little to do with the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. Well, mean, the listeners just learned something new. I think that's very valuable.
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Yeah, i had to Google it, but I got it out. I have a master's degree in playwriting, by the way. so Yeah, there we go. ah Put that master's degree to use, baby. I'm just saying, I should think I should have the six Aristotelian elements of drama memorized. Yeah.
00:24:57
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maybe your brain's being used to hold other information yeah it's it's a sunday afternoon you know exactly um but yeah i i agree with that i think that that also brings up a really um excellent point as to why you didn't like so i emma and charlie watched the movie the horror movie long legs which is also not the guernsey literary potato beel it sure isn't um But we watched that last night and I immediately texted like all of my friends that love horror going, have you watched Long Legs?
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Have you watched Long Legs? Have you watched Long Legs? While watching it. And each and every, I will let you know that each and every single person responded with, um have you finished it?
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Yeah. Mm hmm.
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Literally each and every single one. And yeah all three, because I say all my friends that like horror, I texted three people. Yeah. um all They responded with, talk to me when you finish it.
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And you didn't. have thoughts. But we were recording this, so I assumed that we would talk about it, yeah. Yeah, exactly. um But I think I really enjoyed Long Legs and sort of overlooked the sort of, spoilers for Long Legs, sort of departure in the third act.
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to that they yeah you sort of It's sort of very realistically set up as like a thriller for two-thirds the movie. And then the last third... they sort of like change the script and you're it's a supernatural thriller all of a sudden um when that was like that's not problem i had with it okay what was what was the problem you had with it ah Well, the problem is, first of all, I think that it it it it think it thinks that the audience is is stupid or not following along, which is like one of the things that makes me the most mad in movies.
00:26:49
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They basically have this whole scene where, what's her name, takes like 10 minutes to explain literally everything that's happened in the movie direct to camera.
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And it's kind of embarrassing. It's like, okay, like we get it. Like you don't have to do this. um I think that it's anticlimactic. And I think that, and I think that it's silly. I think it's so silly to be. I do think it's silly. And I think that's why I liked it.
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To be, to be, to be shot the way that it is. And to be like, kind of. um so full of of dread and and everything for the first like hour, the last like half hour, loses all of that goodwill by being like, it's the devil.
00:27:38
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It's literally the devil. I'm like, I think we've talked about this on the Exorcist episode is that like, that's not going to get me. Like, I don't believe in the devil.
Critique of Supernatural Elements in Films
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know what's worse than the devil? People. Yes, absolutely. yeah um and it's not And I don't have a religious upbringing. And I think that that people who do probably have, even if they're no longer religious, have an easier time kind of accepting that.
00:28:06
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But I just found it, Caitlin and I both found it very silly and hard to take seriously. And then just very, very over-explained and over-wrought. Yeah.
00:28:17
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Things that are mysterious are scary and the more light that's thrown on them, either literally in the case of like some monsters and stuff and figuratively in the case of like over explaining the whole story.
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um I think it loses all of that. I, yeah, I can see that. I think that the the reason I really did love it was that it was shot like, like seven. um Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:46
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But it was like written like a horror comedy and i loved it. I thought that it was ridiculous and insane. And I was here for every single like awkward, ridiculous line and moment that they gave yeah make a what's her name. Yeah.
00:29:06
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Um, and I just, I thought that it was so dumb, but so fun and so pretty to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like, and his other movies are, are, are kind of similar. I mean, he's got a new one that's more explicitly a comedy.
00:29:21
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yeah Um, and maybe that will be, um, more successful for me, but like his other movies, I think all three of those movies I find kind of like meh. Um, yeah like I don't think that they're like awful,
00:29:32
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Um, but I just a kind of like M. Night Shyamalan. Um, yeah, I think that he's a much better director than he is a writer. And I would like to see like him direct something that was like a stronger script.
00:29:45
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Yeah, agreed. Anyways, this was horror movie corner.
00:29:54
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A little mini October in the middle of your February. You know, sometimes we just need a little
Complex Portrayal of Nazi Characters
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bit of that. We need to give our thoughts, get our thoughts out, get our get our feelings out, talk about movies that inspire us and excite us and, you know, take away from some of that time of talking about Nazis.
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Yeah. Because who wants to talk about Nazis for an hour? Yeah, this this movie... Tell me your thoughts. This movie has kind of a strange relationship with Nazis. It does.
00:30:29
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We should hate Nazis. But... One of the Nazis is a good guy? Okay, Well, first of all, not in any understanding that I'm ever going to have of any movie.
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The...
Romantic Entanglements and Character Dynamics
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the The problem, so this is this is an interesting story. Like we said, it's an epistolary novel. So in the book, it's all in letters.
00:30:55
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All of this is letters, which is very hard to film because it's all stories. And it reminded me of A Very Long Engagement, which I don't remember if you've seen. Have you seen it? for No. It's so, so beautiful.
00:31:09
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We'll have to watch that at some point. um Again, not a comedy, but very romantic. Yeah.
00:31:16
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So um where both of those movies concern a woman who is kind of digging through the past, trying to solve a mystery by talking to people and getting flashbacks.
00:31:27
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That is, that's what the two movies are, how the two movies are similar. Hers is about World War I. This is about World War II. um And that's, ah that's, ah it's Amelie. It's um Audrey Tutu and same director of Amelie. It's the movie they made right after Amelie. Yeah.
00:31:42
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Oh, fantastic. Yeah. um Yes, so we've got Lily James is an author who has a best-selling book, and she's very famous.
00:31:54
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yeah And Matthew Goode, who is her publisher and gay best friend, which is kind of a an odd fit for him. um But happy to see him.
00:32:06
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Yeah. Right. ah And we... Oh my God, Matthew Goode was on Downton Abbey, too. Oh, shit. Yeah. Everybody was on Downton Abbey in this. Wow. Yeah. it was yeah mean, Downton Abbey was a real powerhouse.
00:32:21
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It was. It's like Harry Potter. Every British actor was in it at one point. Yeah. I mean, if you can get good work. um That actually brings me to the first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts.
00:32:32
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So um this movie takes place in Guernsey, island off of France. Literally none of this movie was filmed in Guernsey.
00:32:45
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oh no way. Caitlin and I really assumed it was. it wasn't. Was it like on the Isle of Man or something? None it. Well, exteriors for Guernsey Island were filmed at the Charter House in London, which was also a location used in Downton Abbey.
00:33:03
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And then, um, in London. Yeah, I know. i know. oh and then the harbor scenes were shot in Cloverley in North Devon. And then filming took place on Saunton Sands in North Devon.
00:33:16
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Uh, yep. So North Devon is where they filmed a lot of this. So none of it was filmed in Guernsey. Devon is in Western England, I think. I don't know where Devon is.
00:33:29
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Uh, Eastern. want to say. Yeah. Eastern. yeah Well, this is taking me to Devon in Chicago. i know. Devon. So here's London right here. No, Devon devon is devyn is always West. Yeah. Devon is just next to Cornwall. Yeah.
00:33:48
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Oh, what's West? Is that Exeter? i don't know. Or East. I don't know. It doesn't matter. ah i will be there in June. So watch out. In Devon? uh not in devon but around there we're going to the like the coasts we're going to um bristol and bath okay and then okay um i i think our friends kyle and laura are getting married on one on the on a coast and i cannot remember where but we will be going across doing bristol is very close to devon
00:34:28
Speaker
Yes, we're going to Bristol and then some other places. um But yeah, irrelevant. Anyways, so we get Lily James and her gay best friend.
00:34:41
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And you, Lily James, she she likes to go to nightclubs with her very handsome American boyfriend. And they love to make out. And he loves to send her flowers.
00:34:52
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And you're led to believe that everything is so great about Katie's boyfriend, Glenn Powell. So this is an early Glenn Powell. This is a pre-set it up Glenn Powell even. yeah And um yeah, so he was basically just the random American in this movie at this point.
00:35:10
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Yeah. um And he is in that Glenn Powell douchebag mode. Like to be so like charming and and sweet, he can also play an absolute douchebag. And that's kind of the mode he's in in this movie. Yeah.
00:35:23
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And yeah I mean, you you can tell from the beginning that like, this is like something. Yeah. This isn't, this isn't working out. Yeah. And that actually brings me to Charlie's Corner.
00:35:35
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Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner has had a theme song. I know. I don't think he he has one. He believes that Glenn Powell was miscast.
00:35:47
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He, he thought he was like, he he doesn't sound like forty s He thought that he sounded too contemporary to be for this period piece. Interesting. Interesting. um Yeah. He also said. I disagree. I don't have. I think that he was good in this. Yeah.
00:36:03
Speaker
I thought he was good too. Um, but I can see. is my boyfriend though. So, you know, yeah, you're a little biased. Um, he also said there was no calm. Where's the calm? No, it's not a comedy at all.
00:36:13
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No. And I said, don't worry about it. And then he said, but a wonderfully brilliant film and Catherine Parkinson is always a delight.
00:36:25
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She is a delight. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. We like Catherine Parkinson. Yeah. We like her. She's not the one that sleeps with the Nazi. Yeah. No, she's not. um she ah She's never had a passionate encounter.
00:36:39
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No, she hasn't, which is really sad. She's a spinster, like witchy lady who's all about herbal remedies and making gin. And she loves Jane Eyre.
00:36:50
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But like her whole, but she like she lives on Guernsey and like boys are limited and she's, there's no dudes. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:00
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understandable um get it the um she uh yes juliette who's lily james um start receives a letter from huisman huisman
Filming Locations and Island Life Dynamics
00:37:15
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white huisman don't know how you say it i don't know it doesn't matter h-u-s h-u-i-s-m-a-n was gonna say i really hope it's not whitesman No, I don't believe so.
00:37:27
Speaker
That would be very bad for a movie where someone sleeps with a Nazi. That's right. Yeah. um He is ah so hot um in this movie. Oh, hot.
00:37:39
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Oh, my God. He is on he's on Game of Thrones. um yeah He's in horror movie called The Invitation, which I think is pretty good. yeah. And also he is in what I most associate him with Hill House, The Haunting of Hill House, the Mike Flanagan miniseries from Netflix, which you've seen. Yeah.
00:37:58
Speaker
Oh, my God. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Love, love, love that. He plays a terrible character in that, but he's really good in it. Yeah. But he's so great. He's so great. and he's so hot.
00:38:09
Speaker
He's so hot. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. Like I love Glenn Powell, obviously, but like Glenn Powell, like closely shaven in the tuxedo versus him on the pig farm with his scrap. Like it's no contest. Like him standing in that doorway.
00:38:22
Speaker
seems like seven feet tall. Jesus. um Him looking passionately into Lily James's eyes, pretending that you're Lily James and being like, Oh my God, should we kiss? Oh my God. No. Here comes Glenn Powell, my boyfriend.
00:38:36
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He pulls a flower out of her hair. ah at the end when he's kissing her hand, when she like holds his hand and he kisses it as he's reading to his not daughter.
00:38:48
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oh my God. I'm here. He's got a, he's got an adorable little toe headed baby. Jesus. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's not really his kid, but he, but he's even better. It's even better.
00:39:01
Speaker
Because he's a kind soul. ah Okay. I will say, okay. So we, so yes, we meet him and he's incredibly hot. And then he, it he asks for a book because there's no bookstores on Guernsey. And he found. Well, because the Nazis destroyed it.
00:39:20
Speaker
Yeah. Cause the Nazis destroyed the books. Right. It's what they do. Yeah. Nazis suck. And this movie sometimes reminds you that of that. Well, one thing I find odd, and so I think, that I believe that it's historically accurate that the British people wouldn't call them Nazis at the time period. They called them Germans.
00:39:40
Speaker
yeah um Nazi is kind of, I mean, they they were definitely Nazis, um but the the Applying the term Nazis to the Nazis didn't really happen until a few years after the war, like during the um the Nuremberg trials. It was just Germany and the Germans. I mean, all German, because Germany was the Nazi party, you know, it's it's like one in the same. So, ya um into like, while it was happening, I believe that it was more historically accurate to call them Nazis.
00:40:07
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you know, the Germans. yeah Which is what they do in this. um Although they do seem a bit like they seem like a bit afraid of the Nazi of it all.
00:40:18
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You know, like it's they talk about a lot of the like terrible things they've done, like the slave labor and and all of that. But there's not a lot of there's not a lot of swastikas in the movie, which I know is like a thing that certain movies don't want to like highlight or show or anything, but like, it's, it's what they had, you know, it's what that was their whole deal.
00:40:43
Speaker
Yeah. So, um, it was, it seems like there are a couple of them, but it does seem like, I don't know. It's just, maybe just because I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark not too long ago. There's not way more swastikas that.
00:40:56
Speaker
There is nothing sexier than a man killing Nazis. Like Harrison Ford in that movie is maybe the hottest anyone's ever been.
00:41:09
Speaker
If I could time travel. Right. Oh man. That's a movie that I think I should rewatch at this point in our history. That would make. Yeah. It's a, it's a good time.
00:41:19
Speaker
Yeah. Gotta watch Harrison, hot Harrison Ford punching a Nazi. You love it. Murdering them, honestly. Murdering. Yeah. Hundreds. Yes, yes, lot of them. He doesn't.
00:41:32
Speaker
Technically, God does. Well, the wrath God kills a lot of them. That's true. The wrath of the Old Testament Jewish God kills a lot of Nazis. Yeah, but he kills And that God's a mean God.
00:41:43
Speaker
Yeah. That God, he he does not take any shit
Character Struggles and Coping with Occupation
00:41:47
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from any of these. Um, remember partway through that movie when God, um like burns the swastika off the outside of the box that the Ark is in that rules.
00:42:00
Speaker
Yes. And then melts all the Nazi faces. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That rules. Um, but yeah. a So anyway, Glenn Powell, uh, so, so, uh, yeah, yeah. So not Glenn Powell.
00:42:16
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She gets a letter from who ends up being Michael Wiesman. um And he wants his he says that he got this book used that it had her name and address in it.
00:42:27
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yeah And he wanted to know if she could get him another copy of the book, which I imagine in the letter, it's probably a little bit more artfully stated in this. It seems odd.
00:42:38
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It's like, hey stranger, will you send me a book? And he said that he's a member of the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, which they had to come up with that name because of a roast pig.
00:42:50
Speaker
And she's like so interested in this. She's like, okay, slow down. Hold on. What? Yeah. I'll send you this book. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. As she's, I, it has to be said that as she is reading this first letter from him, she is sitting in her beautiful gown. She has just come back from a date with Glenn and Powell and she's sitting in her room and basically orgasming as she is reading this letter. Yeah.
00:43:18
Speaker
Um, yeah. Uh, she, she about slides out of her chair. Um, yeah. slick. So just like, woo. Yeah. Because she loves books. Like she's horny for books. So much books.
00:43:36
Speaker
ah Not what I thought you were going to say. of So she is intrigued by this and she's like, okay, so I'll send you this book. It's ah it's Charles Lamb's book of Shakespeare stories for children that he wants. He ends up, he wants it to read to his not daughter, but we'll get there later. Yeah, we'll get there. We'll there.
00:43:56
Speaker
ah She's like, okay, but answer me three questions. Like, what what what on earth is potato peel pie? yeah Which I just assumed, before I saw this movie, I assumed potato peel pie was just an English thing because, like, of that country, you know? Yeah.
00:44:10
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No, no, just because of England. Because England has bad food. yeah Well, they have a lot of bad food because of World War II as well. Sure, but they had bad food before World War II as well.
00:44:22
Speaker
Let's be real. I mean, some of the best food I've ever had has been in England. I'm not going to lie. Okay, yeah, but what was it? Was it curry? Was it like imported food into England? Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:44:32
Speaker
yeah um Anyways. The... the um ah So he's like, okay, so what happened was, and he tells the story of them on the beach. like like they So pigs, he used to have a pig farm. And when he came in, and when the Nazis came in, they took all the pigs because that's what the Nazis do. And he's like, hey, you grow potatoes now. Fuck you.
00:44:57
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yeah um And he's like so pigs were illegal. Okay, cool. Yeah. And he has a friend. um and then we kind of introduced to all the characters in the literary society who are...
00:45:09
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Jessica Brown Finlay. Yep. And her not mom, Penelope Wilton. um and and then um And the postmaster general.
00:45:22
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The postmaster, Tom Courtney. yeah And his grandson. adorable grandson. And Isola, which is- yeah Yes, yes. And Isola, which is the spinster played by Katherine Parkinson. Yes.
00:45:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And then as we are introduced to this, ah all of the characters, so he shows up, he gets a letter, and it says, bring your carving knife to...
00:45:51
Speaker
um harriet jones's house that's not her name but that's who i'm talking about penelope yep and so he shows up and he's like why do you need this and they're like don't worry about it and it's elizabeth and penelope wilton and they go to our barn i think her name is is her name aurora in the movie I have no idea.
00:46:16
Speaker
It's something like that. Aurelia? something like that. Aurelia? Something like that. And they're like, um come to this secret back barn. We don't have anything fun to show you. And there's a pig.
00:46:27
Speaker
And we get this very heartwarming scene where where he's like, hello, old girl. And he's like petting this adorable, beautiful pig and giving this pig so much love.
00:46:40
Speaker
And it's just, and then immediately cut to that pig's corpse being taken out of the oven. Yeah, it was really upsetting. I was so upset.
00:46:52
Speaker
I wrote poor pig multiple times in my notes. Um... Pigs are smarter than dogs, y'all. Yeah, exactly. Charlie, on the other hand, was like, oh, look at that crackling.
00:47:04
Speaker
Oh, oh, look at that roast pig. Oh, oh. And I was like, why would they do that? Why would we spend a good minute looking at this adorable, alive pig only to be then shoved with its dead corpse that they're eating immediately after?
00:47:24
Speaker
it was It was very hard to watch. That's my thought on that. That's true. But they also read books. Yes. And that's kind of... So because they gave their
Elizabeth's Relationship and Narrative Choices
00:47:35
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name to the Nazis as the Guernsey Literary whatever... Yeah. They had to create a book club because then the Nazis wrote them on the books as an approved meeting.
00:47:46
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And so once a week, they have this book club where they talk about books and stuff. Tom Courtney, the postmaster, tried to make a potato peel pie because they don't have... anything. Everything's rationed.
00:47:58
Speaker
Yeah. And they make he makes it's disgusting, obviously. Yeah, it's just potatoes. So it's a joke. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's not good. But he still makes it for every single meeting.
00:48:10
Speaker
I don't, I didn't get that. I think that, that I thought that they they just made it the first time and then he made it for her when she came to restaurant. maybe. That would make more sense. I don't think they actually eat it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:22
Speaker
yeah We don't have to worry about it in in in the second one because the war is over. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's still rations, though. Because um when Lily James arrives... Yeah, he's got his pigs back, for example. yeah Oh, yeah. He's got his pigs back.
00:48:33
Speaker
But when Lily James arrives, she's staying at this um this lady's house who's, like, super Christian. And ah she's, like, renting a room. I'll it correct about Nazi fucking.
00:48:49
Speaker
They try to make it so complicated. it's just, like... Why did he have to be a Nazi? Why couldn't we... He could have literally been anything else.
00:49:02
Speaker
Anything else. There's this... There's a book called All the Light We Cannot See, which is also a Nazi fucker book. yeah That's what that is about? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. um it's So you get his perspective of it, and he's kind of forced he's he's forced into service. I mean, to be fair, a lot of Nazi, especially like inscripted people, there they were drafted, just like people in Vietnam and and everything else. So like I do understand that not all of those people were
00:49:35
Speaker
um you know monsters uh at that point like the officers and like the nuremberg trials like all of that like we were just following orders obviously like that is that's the nuremberg defense that's that's not a real defense like you everybody's responsible for their own actions regardless of which but you know lower ranking like enlisted men who were inscripted like you're just born in germany that's not your fault so i do understand that we get a lot of more of that in a book like all the light we cannot see and i assume this book also then we do in this movie where it's just like he's a nazi but he's nice you know yeah exactly he's a nazi but he helps deliver a cow yeah because he he was ah he's a doctor he was a doctor and then they were like no doctor now you are nazi
00:50:26
Speaker
Yeah. Which ah we don't know. Maybe. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? We're just led to believe he's a nice Nazi. Yeah. It would have been nice if we had like gone into like a little bit more of like he was just sort of like forced into this. He's not terrible.
00:50:40
Speaker
Because Elizabeth, the character, is such an advocate for, you know, um like human rights and for ah the Nazis to go away. The slave labor that they have there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she like saves, that's her whole downfall is she saves us like a slave laborer that she finds who's sick and she like feeds him and is taking him to the hospital when she's caught by the Nazis and then he is shot and she is shipped off to just the continent we are led to believe.
00:51:14
Speaker
um Concentration camp. yeah yeah Yeah. And then she dies at the, spoiler alert, she dies, we find out later, at that concentration camp for defending a girl who's being beaten um so like that's her whole character is that she is this advocate for like humanity and she's a good person so then why did we give her why did we get her pregnant with a nazi baby Mm Yeah.
00:51:46
Speaker
Yeah. So questions. It's kind of the central problem of this movie. Yeah. It is hard to especially now. Like, I don't know, maybe in 2008 when this movie came out, it was a little easier. But especially now, as you know, Nazis are marching through the streets and stuff.
00:52:01
Speaker
Yeah. It's a lot harder to have any sympathy ah for her. Yeah. Yeah. So you're like, most of them, that's very hypocritical. Yeah. Sorry. Continue. most Most of the movie is Lily James like starts hearing these stories and she's like, I want to write a book about these people. The times, you know, newspaper has asked me to write an article about reading and I want to write about this, this book club. So she goes to Guernsey and Glenn Powell proposes and she says, yes.
00:52:28
Speaker
yeah And she goes to Guernsey and kind of learns about the occupation. And it's like, it's something that's very unique in British history because, you know, yeah England, you know, very famously like escaped occupation by, you know, they had the Blitz, you know, they were bombed for years and, but survived and didn't fall to the Nazis, unlike France.
00:52:49
Speaker
But there were Channel Islands, like pieces of, if not necessarily like the United Kingdom, there's certainly like, it's it's it's a British protectorate. It is a part of England or you know what i mean a part of this this country so to speak that that did fall to the Nazis and all of these people lived on this island and were unable to leave they were unable to to grow what they wanted to grow or do what they wanted to do it was that it was a prison for for years under this occupation much like a lot of Europe was yeah um So that is not something that you read about or hear about a lot um yeah in regards to World War II.
00:53:26
Speaker
It's interesting because there are so many books and movies about World War two yeah but there are still like stories that can be told about it that we didn't know and our in are and are interesting, even even if we're completely full of information about World War two right? You think that you know everything.
00:53:46
Speaker
ah but, uh, no, you don't. Because when I first saw this movie, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. whoa Hold on. England was never occupied by the Nazis.
00:53:57
Speaker
And then I had to look it up and I was just like, oh, I guess. Cause they're so close to France. It was a hop, skip and jump. Um, wow. Wowza.
00:54:08
Speaker
Uh, So yeah. um Also a great recommendation of a film to watch if you are interested in learning different stories about um World War II, particularly the Blitz on London. If you watch Blitz, it's a fantastic movie with Saoirse Ronan and...
00:54:28
Speaker
um other people but it's it there's a i saw a lot of stories and and like learned a lot of things about living in london during the blitz and it's yeah stuff i just did not know so highly recommend
00:54:45
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um yeah uh so i think we've kind of mentioned it but elizabeth jessica brown fenlight like we said we start to get so she starts to talk to these people and get stories in pieces and not in chronological order about like what happened and who these people were and what their stories were yeah so nobody wants to talk about it Yeah, Penelope Wilton had a daughter who ah was pregnant and ah they got, the the Blitz you know happened to Guernsey first and say she was injured, the ba lost the baby and died. yeah um And Elizabeth was her daughter's best friend and she kind of adopted her sort of after that, even though she was an adult, but like she started living with her and stuff.
Protagonist's Determination to Write and Face Resistance
00:55:27
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Yeah, and she was from England, the mainland, and she would like yeah just come over to like visit, but then she gets stuck on Guernsey. Well, she stay she had the chance to leave, but she stayed. Oh, yeah. like She could have left when the when the children left. Yeah.
00:55:41
Speaker
Yeah. Because they evacuated the children. Yeah. So I have this note. I was like, wait, who's Kit's mother then? Because Kit, the little girl, is calling Michael Huesman daddy. And I'm like, well, what's the story there? And then immediately they answer it. It's like, oh, Jessica Brown Finlay was fucking a Nazi.
00:55:56
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was like, okay, never mind. And she gets pregnant. Yeah. So there was a Nazi. So Michael Wiesman meets him. um There's a cow, a Guernsey cow.
00:56:08
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If those for cow lovers out there, Guernsey cows are the the brown and white speckled cows. They're very, um very iconic form of cow. Katie loves cows. I do love cows. Yes, they're adorable.
00:56:21
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um And this sweet, this sweet mama is, um is pregnant and the baby is stuck. And so ah the Nazi officer who's there is like, okay, fine, let me help.
00:56:32
Speaker
Or he's not an officer, but he's ah the the the soldier who's there is like, okay, fine, let me help. I used to be a doctor. And so he and Michael Wiesman bond over like giving, like helping this cow give birth. And the little baby yeah cow is so cute.
00:56:46
Speaker
It is a very cute cow. And they tie a rope to its legs and pull him out. Like, Jesus. Well, it's, I think it's like sunny side up. The cow does, the like calf does not want to leave the uterus of the cow.
00:57:00
Speaker
Yes. Yes. So they have to use creative methods. It's breached, I believe. Yes. Breached. So um then she, they're walking back drinking milk, like palling around with this fucking Nazi. Yeah.
00:57:14
Speaker
And and to be to be fair, people under occupation in Guernsey, they did not know about the Holocaust. So that's something we can also say. We didn't have the internet then. They didn't even have the radio in Guernsey during occupation. Yeah, they didn't have any information coming in or out.
00:57:32
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um but um they still knew they were bad ah yeah i mean because ah as you see later they the nazis build these little not little but these concrete lookouts which look watchtower watchtowers um and they ship in um slave labor essentially prisoners of war yeah Yeah, to do it. And they starve them and they beat them and they are horrible to them. And so the Guernsey people see this and so they can see what type of people the Nazis are firsthand
00:58:10
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um as they are watching these poor human beings starve to death or succumb to injuries or just die dropping left and right in front of them um while they build these stupid fucking...
00:58:27
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watchtowers which just sucks so I really hope that ah Ralph or whatever the Nazi's name is Christian oh sorry yeah Christian um so they're palling around and they run into jessica brown finlay and she's like oh it's okay he's a friend it' was like bitch what do you mean he's a friend what was the meet cute there what was the mean we don't know and then like he comes to their book club meetings and like everybody is like and like so penelope wilton is like still mad about it which fair enough yeah but
00:59:02
Speaker
like It seems like everybody else just kind of accepts this fucking Nazi into their book club, which yeah under no circumstances. Yeah. um And he, they get caught, or no, they don't get caught, but she gets pregnant, but he doesn't know.
00:59:17
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He gets sent back for something. Because I think they do get caught, and he gets sent back to Germany. Oh, right, right, right, right. right And he his book gets torpedoed, and he and he dies, to which I wrote, yeah good. Yeah.
00:59:29
Speaker
yeah um and then we don't know why so so we don't know why she she gets sent off to the camps yet uh that's part of the mystery of the movie like no one will talk to her about it and so lily james is like trying to dig and find the answers tell me about elizabeth yeah who's kid's father And so she learns a little bit more about all of them. And so, so Michael Huesman basically took this, this girl, the, the baby and started raising because when she left, she was like, would you watch her while I go save this, this, this poor child who um has been, you know, working on this thing.
01:00:07
Speaker
And he's like, you have a child, you can't do this. And she's like, I have to, you know, if he nobody else is going to save him, what am I going to do? And so the Nazis catch them immediately. um the the kid gets killed and she gets taken off the camps and he's left with the baby. And so he's raised this child as his own. Like she calls him daddy.
01:00:25
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And she's adorable and very, very cute. And they don't want, and then you find out that the whole reason why nobody wants to talk about Elizabeth and the reason why they don't want to like,
01:00:36
Speaker
find out what happened to her um is because they, they still, there's a tiny nugget of hope that she might still be alive and that she's just in Europe somewhere.
01:00:49
Speaker
Cause it's never confirmed that she's dead until the very end. ah But like ah they don't want to, to like dig deeper or talk about it because then make It might be public. It'll be public knowledge that Elizabeth had this Nazi baby.
01:01:09
Speaker
And the um the. Why they don't want her writing about it. She wants to write a book about it. And they say that that she can't because. Yeah. yeah Because of that. And because the the um the soldiers family in Germany.
01:01:24
Speaker
Are technically the only. Like blood relatives that this child has. And they'll try and take this child away. If they find out about her. Right. And they don't want So, yes.
01:01:36
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So she's like, okay, well, I can't write the book then. um And she's there and she's learning
Decisive Romantic Choices in the Climax
01:01:41
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all of this. And then Glenn Powell shows up and he's like, hey, ah hot stuff. um Hey, hot stuff. kind youlet has so He's found the the records. like he um He went and found like what happened to her. And he found the record and he found someone who saw her get get murdered. Yeah.
01:02:00
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Yeah. Yeah. And so he's there. She was trying to help. ah she defended it. Yeah. She defended a child at the camp and was murdered for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um And so and while what whenever he first arrives as well, he goes, hey, you hot stuff.
01:02:15
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Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's up with this sexual tension here on this pig farm? Well, why aren't you wearing your engagement ring? Yeah. The giant rock to which I was like.
01:02:28
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bitch she is working on a pig farm do you want her to wear that diamond while picking up pig shit well i think it's mostly like it's that she like the first thing is like when she meets the woman who's running the place the woman keeps looking at it and looking at her it's like you know yeah she doesn't want to like flaunt wealth in front of these people who have had this like such a hard life these past few years yeah under the occupation yeah so she just doesn't wear it yeah yeah Um, but he, you know, yeah to be fair, like he's kind of a, he's a little bit more well-rounded. Like he's not like a horrible person or anything. Like he did like go out and find this for her, yeah but like she doesn't love him and he's like not the right person for her, you know? Yeah.
01:03:12
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They just don't click the way that her and Hottie McHotpants pig farmer does. Dossie is his name, by the way. Dossie. Dossie. Dossie. D-A-W-S-E-Y They just stare at each other's eyes and they read books and he kisses her hand all sexually and he wears sweaters Uh-huh Like real real open collar like Yeah um So she is about to get on a plane she gets ah She's saying goodbye to all of them She's getting on a plane to go back to London with um got it with Glenn Powell And this is where we have Caitlin's Corner
01:03:50
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Oh, Caitlin's corner, Caitlin's corner. And she, her corner is literally this direct quotation. She goes, you go back to that man who does not know how to shave and tear that dick up, girl.
01:04:05
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Tear that dick up. Tear that dick up. tear the dick up like i don't know what that means and it sounds painful for joss like are you like are you grinding on it like what's the what's the what's tearing it up ah like like tear it up inside you i guess but like you mean like tear it off and stick it inside no this is not teeth um my but but yeah i mean i'm
01:04:40
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misunderstanding what exactly she means there the sentiment i agree with yes yes i i also agree because the entire time you're like you're making the wrong choice you dumb bitch Yes, yes.
01:04:52
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And she goes back to and to London and there, again, he's in a tuxedo and he looks ridiculous. It's one of those things where like men's formal wear is so strange because like women's formal wear is like the best you've ever looked in your life, right? And men's formal wear looks like they're uncomfortable.
01:05:11
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you know what mean? And it's a uniform. Everybody looks the Everybody looks the same and like they're, and I, and and and don't get me wrong, like women's wear can be uncomfortable, but I don't know something about like the ties and like the, like the vests and like, like a, especially if there's like a cummerbund situation, like yeah none of that is sexy. Like, and you're supposed to wear that to go dancing.
01:05:36
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Yeah. Yeah. Goodness gracious. So it's it's no competition for the the torn sweater that Houseman is wearing with his like, it's cut down to his chest. Yeah.
01:05:49
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Yeah. And he doesn't he doesn't know how to shave. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. No, he doesn't know how to shave. He's too sad. He's too sad to shave. He's too sad to shave and he's too busy parenting this not child.
01:06:02
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Not his child. um Also, i did laugh um where they find out exactly how Jessica Brown Finlay died. And he's like, all right, well, I better go tell the little girl. Like, Jesus Christ, dude.
01:06:15
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Chill. And everybody else is like, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And he's like, well, I got, she's got to know. Got to crush those dreams. She's four years old. Better go tell her her mom's dead immediately. don't even like think about that. is so good Listen, like, yes, you have to tell her, but like,
01:06:32
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Maybe you should take like an hour and like... Yeah. Process. Like prepare your thoughts on how you're going to do this. So that you know, don't traumatize the child.
01:06:45
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Yeah. Wild moment. Basically just like, all right, gotta go tell the All right. And then it's a shot of him picking her up, putting her on his knee. And then you don't hear what he says, but you just see it from afar. Thank God. Explaining.
01:07:01
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Yeah. yeah I mean, he's not exactly a wordsmith in this movie, you know? No, he's more there for the looks and the vibes. um ah Yeah. So um then we like go back and forth. She writes up the the manuscript. She's sad. Matthew Goode goes to visit her and he's like, you got to write it. Like maybe you don't publish it, but you have to write it. It's what you want. Like, yeah, you have to do the thing that like where your heart is drawn.
01:07:26
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Just like Elizabeth's heart was drawn to that Nazi. You, your heart is drawn to the story and you have to write it. Literally. He says that. Yeah. And also, by the way, your boyfriend sucks.
01:07:37
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Yes, yes. um So she breaks up with Glenn Powell and yeah again, it's like they resist like making him like a complete monster. like yeah He's annoying. and he's put But he's also like he he kind of gets it too. it's it's a it's a It's a bit of characterization that you don't normally see in something like this.
01:07:59
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Yeah. They had to make up for the Nazi of it all. Right. And and So she writes the story. She gives a copy to Matthew Goode and she's like, this is just for you.
01:08:11
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Yep. and then then they they cut to the to Guernsey and they receive a copy of it too. And she's like, I'm not going to publish this, but I wanted you to be able to read it. Yeah. And, and then he's like, gotta go get my girl.
01:08:27
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like, no gives him the speech. Like it's, I guess, I guess the book is the speech, but he doesn't read it. He just, again, just like, let's go. I got, I got, I got to go tell her how I feel.
01:08:39
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I got it. I got to go make out with Lily James. And Lily James is like, I gotta, I gotta go to Guernsey. I gotta go to de Guernsey and um rip that dick up. And Matthew Goode encourages that, to be fair. Yes.
01:08:52
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So he kind of gives her the go get your your boy speech. Yeah. And then we all we kind of we kind of have this little bit where like she's he gets to London and then she's about to leave and then she's yeah she sees him and she's getting off the boat and she's yelling after him in the crowd. It's very much like some other movie we watched. I don't remember. We watch a lot of these. Any rom-com. Like this is like a rom-com moment. Like the last 10 minutes are the rom-com moments with the tropes and all the things to which I wrote.
01:09:24
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My note for this is, you know what? I think that this is a sad British Hallmark Christmas movie because she's a business lady.
01:09:35
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She goes to small town. Yeah. she sure does yeah um yeah but there's one specifically where they're like one's on a boat and one is on the land and he they're running i don't remember which one that i don't don't remember anyway there's a lot of them yeah uh and then she goes and he goes i have to and she says will you marry me and it's like oh yeah you know yeah yes forget about the nazis And then over the credits, we hear the people in the book club discussing various books. It's very sweet. And they're like talking about Virginia Woolf. And I'm like, arrow to my heart.
01:10:11
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Do you love Virginia Woolf? I do love Virginia Woolf. Yes. um Mrs. Dalloway is one of my favorite books. Is it really? yeah I didn't know that. There you go.
01:10:22
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um It's one of those things where it's like, it has this kind of reputation that you think that it's going to be a certain way. And then when you read it, it's nothing like that at all. um I mean, know they tell they actually, they tell their home but they're talking about it to the lighthouse in um in the in the like voiceover over the credits, but it's the same basic kind of thing where it's like, yeah it's not about what happens. It's about the interiority of the characters. Cause like all of her books are written like stream of consciousness.
01:10:48
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Oh. And so you get, it's it's so much about like the way the character what the characters are thinking instead of what they're saying and like the way that they're like traumatized by the war and, um you know, gayness and stuff like that.
01:11:00
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ah ah So it's, and it's, and, and, you know, it's like, you know, 160 pages or something like that. It's really distilled, um really beautiful book. Yeah.
01:11:11
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Oh, I don't know what I would call my favorite book. of all time but i am my favorite classic is definitely the Great Gatsby.
01:11:24
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Oh sure. um My favorite book is usually I tell people Watership Down. um i love Watership Down very much. nice I knew that. I knew that one. About rabbits and is not particularly literary at all. I just really love it.
01:11:41
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Yeah. Hey, you know, you got to love what you love right now. I mean, if you were to ask me what my favorite book of all time is, I would probably say, um, from blood Nash or ACOTAR.
01:11:56
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So, uh, so yeah, that's where my brain's at. Sure. Yeah. Not some literary, like classic smut. Pure smut. Yeah. Yeah. much
01:12:09
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um But yeah, so that's the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. now you never have to get that title right ever again.
01:12:22
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Exactly. What are we doing next week? You do when you edit type the title into the
01:12:31
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um Next week we are watching um Puppy Love, a Roku original. No, no, no. It's um it's not a Roku original. it was It's a buzz it's a BuzzFeed movie.
01:12:46
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A BuzzFeed movie? Yeah, it's a BuzzFeed movie. Have you not watched it yet? I haven't watched it yet. I'm watching it literally when we finish this. I'm going downstairs, grabbing some popcorn, and then sitting on the couch Charlie and watching it.
01:12:59
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um It is Lucy Hale and Grant Gustin and a lot of dogs and it's cute. I love that. I love that. um Love dogs. Love that. And I, I, I'm pretty, I have not seen it, but I feel like I can safely say no Nazis.
01:13:15
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ah No Nazis in puppy love. cannot speak for the political of any of the Yeah.
01:13:24
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i cannot um speak for the political views of any of the dogs It's hard. I mean, like, converted yeah, it's I mean, I don't i don't know if there's a German shepherd in there or not, but it's hard to say.
01:13:38
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who Literally. Okay. And on that note, shall we outro? Let's outro. Let's cut that directly out. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl.
01:13:50
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01:14:05
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Yeah, will. Apple Podcasts, I guess Spotify probably does reviews. A lot of yeah a lot of things do podcasts. um Also, while I've got you here...
01:14:18
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A Blue Sky user reached out to me and said that she was having trouble with our podcast on, I believe it was Podcast Addict, which is a which I thought was Podcast Attic, but it's Podcast Addict. Oh.
01:14:33
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I guess that makes little bit more sense. I think both are good names. ah And because we record videos so we can post video snips on our Instagram and stuff, which we started to do again. I don't know if you noticed. Yeah.
01:14:48
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Yeah. Emma was busy over the holidays. Apologies. Totally fair. um And because of that, what for whatever reason, Podcast Addict won't let her play the podcast um outside of the window.
01:15:03
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So like if she goes to another app or like sits her phone down or something, it will it will stop. It will pause the thing because it thinks it's a video like YouTube does, for example. You know, like YouTube won't let you picture in picture unless you pay them.
01:15:14
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I don't know what the deal is. That's stupid. yeah But our we don't have the video. Like the video is not there. It's just yeah it's just recorded as a video. And so I told her um we will fix it in upcoming episodes.
01:15:25
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um I don't think there's anything we can do about the past ones because we'd have to delete and re-upload every episode. And to be honest, like ah we're just, I don't have time or
Technical Issues and Future Fixes
01:15:34
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money to do that. Yeah. And so, but I did tell her that we were going to in the future, we would fix it. However, in the only one I've edited since then, i was not able to do that.
01:15:46
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I don't, yeah I can't see how you uploaded it as anything other than a video. And I don't know, have you, did you try to that as well? I tried to do that as well. I even did for the Anastasia one. I made a new room where it didn't record have any of that.
01:16:02
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um It was just audio. um Yeah. And I uploaded it. It might be like, we might have to look into the settings of how we're sort of like as a podcast.
01:16:16
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like at that take, I need to do some research into it. So we'll fix it. Yeah. It's, it's odd. So again, i am sorry that that has not been fixed yet. I, I, I'm sure that that is an issue for other people as well. i hope ah that you don't stop listening to be fair.
01:16:35
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It seems like it's just that app that does it. Cause I know for fact that I use overcast for podcasts. It doesn't do it there. It doesn't do it in Apple podcast. It doesn't do it in Spotify. Yeah.
Credits and Sign-Off with Humor
01:16:44
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yeah um so uh i'm sorry uh that that is doing that but we will try to we're working on it yeah we're working on it um anyways thanks and we'll put the theme music in here thanks to andrew milliken and nick swoboda for our theme music and elena henderson for our artwork
01:17:11
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01:17:25
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01:17:36
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Sorry. The reason I stopped is because i I just realized that you were supposed to go first in this script because this Yeah, but I didn't want to stop you.
01:17:46
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You were doing it so well. I'm so sorry. That's okay. Leave all this in. I'm going to leave it all in. People love to hear it. They love it. Anyways, good night.
01:17:57
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Good night.