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Enchanted
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Hoppy Spring!! Sing and dance as Emma and Katie learn about the magical world of Andalasia. They chat about why you shouldn't watch this movie under certain substances, Amy Adams and how Disenchanted sucks. That's right this week is all about the 2007 Disney Rom-Com Enchanted!
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Love for Theater
00:00:21
Speaker
what feels like years seems like forever yeah it's like forever um and i love it very much it has now become a place where i feel like i go home every time i get to that theater oh that's nice and you're probably gonna start tech this weekend right Yeah, we start tech on Sunday.
00:00:41
Speaker
Yeah, it's a very tech-heavy show. um But we are, so we're in, like, the final week of rehearsals before tech, so we're really sort of, like, getting down to the nitty-gritty and sort of, like, really cleaning up and working really precisely.
00:00:55
Speaker
So was a lot of start and stopping. And um there was, there's like, this big dance scene in Act 2, and so there was a lot of downtime. Was it dance in Yeah, there's a dance. What does this show not have?
00:01:09
Speaker
It has everything. It's got six-month-old baby. It's got fire. It's got... um I have a fight call, an intimacy call. Well, this is because Jeremy and I decided because we ah can never remember our choreo.
00:01:24
Speaker
uh i have a fight call a dance call and then just sort of like a choreo intimacy call so just sort of like marking the movements because that's all of the intense things that happen have to be like an hour before every show right pretty much um yeah we said that we were going to do that but then the last run we didn't do any of that and then we got to the dance and we were like uh oh yeah um but yeah the show it's gonna be amazing it's gonna be a fantastic show I'm really excited to see it I'm very sad for it to end because it's become such a part of my life um and I love these little is it a long run too no it's only three weeks so it's like we're in rehearsals longer than we're we're running three months ah rehearsal for three week run yeah
Challenges in Play Production
00:02:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, to be fair, we have ah six months old six month old a a six-year-old, nine-year-old, a 13-year-old, 14-year-old, a 15-year-old.
00:02:27
Speaker
Did I say a 13-year-old? We got one those. And there's like 25 people in the cast, too. Like, that's just crazy. The royal court, God bless them. I was looking at Jez Butterworth's other plays, and like every single one of his plays has like 25 people in it. I'm like, I can't even imagine.
00:02:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like, like, Jeremy put this perfectly, because memorizing this play has been so it has been a challenge.
00:02:55
Speaker
Because yeah there are so many lines that I say that are like, similar to other lines that I say, but they're not. They're different by like one or two words. And like those one two words make the difference. And it's like, you're talking to a playwright here. Like I get it. Yeah.
00:03:08
Speaker
um But he was like, Jess Butterworth, he writes... Sometimes important. Yeah, I get it. But Jess Butterworth, he writes plays that are fun for audiences to watch, but not fun for actors to do.
Humor in Rehearsal
00:03:20
Speaker
sure. um And I wouldn't know anything about that myself. No, you write plays that are fun for actors to do and for audiences to watch.
00:03:32
Speaker
I like to think so. Yes, check and check. Anyways, this is a long roundabout way of me saying we were doing this nitty gritty bit with chairs and the 13 year old turns to me.
00:03:47
Speaker
The 13 year old, bless his heart. He's very sweet. He's very wonderful. Is this the same 13 year old who wanted to watch our podcast and you told him no? I said, please don't.
00:03:58
Speaker
And then everyone else around was just like, what's the big deal? It's just bad words. And i was like, please don't. Okay, here's the name of it, but like, don't do it. um don't Don't ever do that. I'm too much of a people pleaser, Katie.
00:04:10
Speaker
He turns to me and he goes, I listened to your podcast. And I went, no! And he goes, and I was like, I think that's great, boys.
00:04:24
Speaker
Which episode did he listen to? I have no idea. He said, I listened to it for five minutes and then I got bored. And I was like, good. Oh, that's good. Okay. He continued on and said, but I'm going to tell my mom to listen to it. And I went, no.
00:04:45
Speaker
I get canceled. Um, hi, voices, mom.
00:04:53
Speaker
We hope you enjoy the podcast. Your son's a great actor. We're having a great time. i did tell him not to listen to this podcast. There's an explicit tag on it. Yeah.
00:05:04
Speaker
So boy, oh boy. i just, I thought it was so funny. Cause I was like, oh my God, I'm going to get like kicked out of this cast for this 13 year old listening to my podcast where i talk about rock not to you're an adult.
00:05:19
Speaker
It's a different thing. It's not on i still told I still told him the name of the podcast. Well, you probably shouldn't have done that.
00:05:29
Speaker
I'm dumb. This is like kids finding their teachers like ah Tinder profiles or whatever, you know? Yes. Yes. I don't work with kids very often.
00:05:40
Speaker
this all very new. The internet changes everything. It's so hard. Yeah. Yeah. hu You have to like watch what you say and stuff. And like they're all, all the kids in the show are so sweet.
00:05:51
Speaker
Yeah. I know. mean, he's 13 in the year 2025. Like, he's been on the internet his whole life. There's probably nothing he hasn't seen or heard, you know? Exactly.
00:06:02
Speaker
and then the 15-year-old in the cast... He knows what DPs are. like hope not. I hope not. I really hope not. Well, I hope not, too. But I'm just saying that's the status of the world, you know? Like, I certainly didn't when
Cultural Discussions
00:06:16
Speaker
I was 13. That's true. 23, probably.
00:06:18
Speaker
That's true.
00:06:21
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't, I mean, i didn't know what a couple transment was until this past year. Tig Notaro. Until Tig Notaro. Until our episode on warm bodies.
00:06:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So there you go. yeah I remember things that we talk about, but I never remember what episode it's in. So, yeah, the good for you. I'm picking that up, yeah. Yeah, I... I thought I was real good at memorization until this play.
00:06:49
Speaker
Well, it's also like, it's probably in dialect too, right? Is it like... Yeah. Yeah. yeah it's in You say feckin' a lot? ah Well, it turns out feckin' and fucking are two different words in northern and Irish.
00:07:04
Speaker
So feckin' is fucking for kids. Let me explain. I'm sorry, what?
00:07:11
Speaker
Gotta be a better way to say that. Let me explain So fecking is like a less intense, it's like, oh darn it versus oh damn Oh, okay. Okay.
00:07:23
Speaker
So it's like fricking. Yeah. But it sounds a lot like fucking. It does. Well, especially in an Irish accent. Yeah. Yeah. back a um But yeah, I do. i have to do a Northern Irish accent.
00:07:39
Speaker
And so there's a lot of... Which is different than an Irish accent. It's very different. It's sad. And that's now. she can go to your room now. Oh, dear. Yeah.
00:07:52
Speaker
and that's now um oh she' go to your room night um oh dear but oh dear i feel like i feel like that'll be hard to parse in the audience maybe yeah well there's moments that charlie yeah he's already really irished out like everything because i like constantly i'm like trying to for the past three months watching like irish cinema watching um sure you know a bunch of irish tv or northern irish irish cinema specifically i would guess yeah yeah dairy girls is northern ireland i'm trying to think of what's a northern irish movie
00:08:29
Speaker
I mean, I guess a lot of the Troubles movies. Oh, God. I've never seen it. didn't want to text you about it. But like I didn't know. i didn't know what it was about. I thought it was just about Northern Ireland.
00:08:42
Speaker
Wait, really? You didn't know what it was about? That's like the only thing anybody knows about it. Yeah. The whole plot of that movie has been completely forgotten except for the ending. Yeah.
00:08:55
Speaker
Not for me. had heard about it because I was listening book on tape. About the Troubles. And they had mentioned this like woman who was very like key in the beginning of the Troubles in the 70s, Dolores Price.
00:09:09
Speaker
And she was married to an actor who's the actor in that movie. And her character in um inspired Miranda Richardson's character in that movie. Sure. And so I was like, oh, I should watch this movie.
00:09:19
Speaker
So I put it on my letterboxd list. And I um then I had like a night where Charlie was like, I'm going go to bed early and I got to watch whatever the fuck I wanted on TV. It was great. um And so I was like, well, I'm gonna watch um go watch the crying game.
00:09:34
Speaker
Yeah. and And so it like starts off and, you know, it starts off how I think, which is, you know, about like a bunch of Northern Ireland or a bunch of people in the IRA kidnapping a British soldier.
00:09:45
Speaker
um is it Stephen Ray? Is that who's in it? Who's the guy? It's Stephen Ray. Yeah, Stephen Ray is the one who was married to Dolores Price. Very interesting. Forrest Whitaker. Yeah, he's the British soldier. Yeah.
00:09:59
Speaker
And he's really into cricket. And so like the first half an hour, i'm like, oh, this is, I know what this is. This is, yeah you know, they're going to become friends. It's going to be like the Green Mile.
00:10:10
Speaker
They're going to become friends. And then Stephen Ray's going to be sad. Stephen Ray's going to be sad because he has to kill... Forrest Whitaker and and then he's going to like learn something about morality. I don't know.
00:10:23
Speaker
like That's where I thought the movie was going. But then Stephen Whitaker gets hit by a truck and things take a turn.
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah, i mean, again, I don't... yeah The only thing I know about that movie is the is the the ending. the um The whole like like transphobic kind of yeah ah climax of that Oh, you mean how he forces his girlfriend to um but like go back to dressing like a boy for her own protection?
00:10:58
Speaker
Are you talking about that? No, no, I don't know that. i didn't even know that much. The only thing I know about is the scene where like you find out that she's trans and he throws up. That's the, that's the only thing know about it.
00:11:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's when I knew that this movie was not going to be a positive light on the trans community. And I was like, I guess I won't tell Katie I watched this. You know, it's like the early nineties. Um,
00:11:23
Speaker
Yeah. don't know. I know some people who've seen it and think that it's like, think that it's like a good movie, like despite all of that. But you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. I mean, it's hard.
00:11:35
Speaker
Cause it's like, there's some positive things cause it's like depicting a romantic relationship between cis man and a trans woman. And in the early nineties, which, you know, wouldn't have been seen probably. She is of course played by a man though in the movie.
00:11:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:11:54
Speaker
She's not actually. No, no, that's the guy from Stargate.
00:12:06
Speaker
I knew nothing about this movie. Uh-uh, Emma. See, this is what happens when you go in to watch classic movies blind. was like, oh, this is obviously crazy.
00:12:18
Speaker
I think that that's like pretty much, and then he was in Stargate like two years later, and I'm pretty sure that's like the end of his career, really. um What's his name? Was it because the crime game? Because in Stargate, he's like, Jay Davidson is his name.
00:12:35
Speaker
In Stargate, he's like the the pharaoh of the you know science fiction world or whatever, and he's really androgynous. Yeah, in the movie, right? In the movie.
00:12:47
Speaker
in the In the movie Stargate, yes. Because they made a TV Oh, right, right. They did make a TV show, yes. I have not seen the TV show. um In the movie. Neither have I. is but i've seen He is gay um and just femme. And he's only got like, yeah, that's it. It's the crime game, Stargate, a TV movie, and a documentary where he plays himself.
00:13:11
Speaker
He's a model. yeah Huh. Well, there you go. Well, I'd like to apologize to the trans community for not knowing about the crying game and
00:13:25
Speaker
you said not knowing enough about it. It's one of those movies that was like me out really big. And I guess the reason, the only reason i know about it was like people making fun of it on like,
00:13:38
Speaker
in the nineties, because like when I was a kid, I would, um, I would come home from school and i would watch comedy central in like the afternoon. And so a lot of it would be like old Saturday night lives from the nineties and like stuff like that. So I, I, my assumption is that a lot of the pop culture, like stuff that I know about for like people, a generation older than me is because I watched Saturday night live for people, a generation older than me when I was, you know, eight years old.
Podcast Introduction
00:14:06
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Which is why I get very confused about being my casters. Mary Kay Letourneau and John Bobbitt and like all of the early 90s. like The Will Ferrell, Anna Gasteyer, like Molly Shannon, all of that.
00:14:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I mean the earlier stuff than that. I mean like Dana Carvey. Oh, even earlier? Chris Farley and Mike Myers. Yeah, because it was like, Comedy Central would would would show them like in the afternoon. like the one in like yeah It was 2000, but they would show ones from 1990 in the afternoon. So those are the ones that I watched a lot. Oh.
00:14:43
Speaker
a
00:14:46
Speaker
Okay. The Menendez. like All the true crime documentaries that are coming out now, like I know about them because of Saturday Night Live. Which is... Probably not a great ah way to learn history, but you know.
00:15:01
Speaker
I mean, it's way to learn history. i also introduced. It's more than kids now are learning about history because of. um Exactly. Well, I just introduced the 15 year old who is in love with um millennial culture, which is a weird thing. She's wishes that she was born emo and I love it. And I am.
00:15:24
Speaker
She I love her so much. ah She she made me a play. Born and The title of your memoir. Yeah, born emo. um However, i love i was like all in on this and I was like, oh my God, I love this so much. And then Jeremy was like, I was telling my wife, Bree, about this and um the math is this is the exact same as like when we were growing up and we were like obsessed with the 70s. And I was like, shut up!
00:15:51
Speaker
Get away! I hate to do that math. I mean, that's the thing. Like we just, so this movie we watched today, which we'll have, I mean, 16 minutes in, we haven't even said the name of the podcast. I know, right? um But like this movie is, um is, is, you know, 18 years old.
00:16:08
Speaker
um And it's, it's, it's just crazy to think that that is something that, that is so far away, ah so far away now. It's like, um you know, when I,
00:16:21
Speaker
when I was watching, like when I was, when my, when my grandmother was showing me like Star Wars for the first time, like Return of the Jedi was not 18 years old yet. You know, like this movie older than the Star Wars movie was when I was a kid. Yeah.
00:16:36
Speaker
Yeah. And that's an excellent segue. That's right, guys. ah This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where M&K'd he come from a Disney world.
Discussing 'Enchanted'
00:16:49
Speaker
um I meant for that to sound more Disney, but it ended up just sounding generic and boring. um Anyways, we we are both wearing big princess dresses right now and have birds on our shoulders.
00:17:01
Speaker
Exactly. And tiaras. In fact, Katie has a bird braiding her hair. um It's a very talented bird. Yeah. Hey, we get it where we can get it.
00:17:12
Speaker
You know, we can't all reach all the way back there. um ah But yeah, this is the podcast where Emma and Katie are Disney princesses who fall through a well and end up in, guess what?
00:17:29
Speaker
New York City. New York City, baby. New York City, who some might say, once again, as yet another character and this movie. Yeah.
00:17:44
Speaker
That's right, guys. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie.
00:17:51
Speaker
And we're talking about Enchanted. Enchanted from 2007, which is longer ago than I thought. I would have said like 2011. That's when I thought. i mean, I guess that's not that different.
00:18:04
Speaker
Yeah. Directed by Kevin Lima, who directed the millennial masterpiece, a goofy movie. ah yeah Tarzan. Tarzan.
00:18:15
Speaker
And 102 Dalmatians, which we've talked about on this podcast before. I don't remember. somebody we we so we Somebody we talked about wrote both Tarzan and 102 Dalmatians, but I don't remember which movie it was, which person it was. Does this mean that we have to watch 102 Dalmatians? Because we've hit like two out of the three, ah to two boxes have been checked.
00:18:37
Speaker
Does not mean we have to watch 102 Dalmatians. And written by Bill Kelly, who wrote Blast from the Past. Ah! I can see. And he wrote this movie and then nothing else.
00:18:48
Speaker
And then Kevin Lima is an he's an animator. He directed this movie and the movies I mentioned and then hasn't really directed anything since. Like he did some shorts, but he's done he's done work in animation since then. So he's probably like directing a movie is too much, which, yeah, I agree.
00:19:03
Speaker
Yeah, I completely agree. Wait, so did neither of them were involved in Enchanted 2? Yeah. No, it's um because Adam Shankman directed Disenchanted disenchanted and ah Bill Kelly has a character credit. That's all.
00:19:19
Speaker
Oh, wow. And the thing about Disenchanted 2 is it's not very good. I have not seen it. I refuse to see it because yeah I love this movie.
00:19:30
Speaker
Yes. Oh, I love this movie too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it has a special place in my heart. I remember seeing it as a freshman in college and um being obsessed with it. And I have it on DVD.
00:19:42
Speaker
um Listened to the soundtrack over and over and over again. Watched Amy um Adams perform at the Oscars because and it just like filled my heart.
00:19:56
Speaker
Yeah, I love this movie. This is the Slumdog Oscars? No, it's the one before that. It's 2007. This is... Well, it would have been 2008. This is No Country for Old Men.
00:20:09
Speaker
No Country for Old Men. ah ya Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then I remember No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood was the same year, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker
Because I remember a lot of gritty... gritty like Daniel Day-Lewis for Best ah ah Actor and Marion Cotillard won Best Actress for yeah the Edith Piaf movie. love you Yes, and her Oscars dress that year will always go down in my Criterion collection of Best Oscar Dresses all time.
00:20:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah. um I don't remember that part. Yeah, sorry. um I looked it up yesterday. That's the only reason why I knew. like, wow. Because I'm like, was Amy Adams nominated for best actress for this? And she wasn't.
00:20:52
Speaker
She should have. She should have. She was so fucking good in this. Like some of the nuances that she brings into Giselle from all the other like, character like, here's the thing about this movie is that like, it is obviously made and written and done with so much care and love, but also just a dash of cynicism.
00:21:13
Speaker
for the grown-ups and well i mean just yeah oh i was gonna say it's that you can tell like there's just sort sort of like there's so much just appreciation for the source work um i mean obviously it's produced and made by disney and there are a lot of easter eggs which we'll get into later with emma's um fun facts um but like there it it's done in not a mocking way, but an appreciative, loving way, but also makes you question, what was it that I was watching as a child?
00:21:54
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. um This and um just real quick before we get off Amy Adams, like this is kind of the beginning of her like big career because before this was her first big movie. She had done. yeah um She'd done Junebug, which I had seen. That was a movie that I like made my parents take me to Asheville to so to the art theater to see.
00:22:17
Speaker
um yeah And they were like, because Ben McKenzie. Yeah. What is this crap we're watching? Was because Ben McKenzie was in it yeah but Possibly part of it. um But ah mostly because I just read about it in Entertainment Weekly because I got yeah every um Entertainment Weekly since I was like, you know, eight years old and like yeah ah was obsessed with them. Like when I was ah kid, like I wanted to write for Entertainment Weekly. Yeah.
00:22:43
Speaker
Yeah. So she had done some other some other things. She's in Drop Dead Gorgeous. ah ah She's in um um a Catch Me If You Can. She's in an episode of of the Vampire Slayer, obviously.
00:22:56
Speaker
um But Junebug was the first the first like movie where she really hit. um And she is um where it's um it's a Southern... like Have you seen the movie?
00:23:11
Speaker
I haven't, but i know a lot about it. Okay, it's like this this Southern movie, this artist, she goes to um to North Carolina to meet her her in-laws, like her boyfriend's family, and she like kind of falls in love with Amy Adams, her sister-in-law.
00:23:26
Speaker
um it's It's really cute. Yeah. um I don't think she was nominated, but she got a lot of critical attention for it. And then she was in um Talladega Nights and then this. And that's that's pretty. um And then after that, it's like A-list.
00:23:38
Speaker
So this is what and launched her career. And then she's been nominated for a bunch of Oscars and she's never won because there's no justice in the world.
00:23:47
Speaker
It's absolutely insane. She's an amazing, talented actress and everything she does is gold. And I fucking love her. Well, I wouldn't go that far. stuck it. um I wouldn't say that everything she's done is gold because the thing is like since arrival and she was nominated for an Oscar, she deserved it. She should have won for arrival. One of the best movies of our generation. um She's been in almost exclusively bullshit nonsense.
00:24:11
Speaker
um Just want to read it out. Okay. So nocturnal animals, same year as arrival. I wouldn't call that bullshit nonsense. I don't think it's a great movie, but she's good in it. Wouldn't call it that. Here's what she's been in since then.
00:24:23
Speaker
Justice League, Vice, Hillbilly Elegy, The Woman in the Window, Dear Evan Hansen, and Disenchanted. That's what she's done since 2016. And there those are all god-awful bullshit nonsense.
00:24:39
Speaker
yeah according According to me. yeah I have not seen Justice League, to be fair. um But she was just in that movie where she turns into a wolf.
00:24:51
Speaker
Oh yeah. Night Bitch. Yeah. Night Bitch. Yeah. Which is Mariah Heller, I think. Yeah. want to see that. It's based on book. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's based on a book that I've also wanted to read for a while.
00:25:03
Speaker
Cause it's in like, I constantly get it recommended for like books about unhinged women that are super fun. it's like Bunny, Night Bitch. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:14
Speaker
Despite sounding like a 30 Rock um ah movie, it is it is supposed to be good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um Katie, you'll know this because I texted you last night.
00:25:29
Speaker
The listeners won't know this because they weren't there. Yeah.
00:25:36
Speaker
Emma thought it was an excellent idea because I had a night off from rehearsal and I'm tired and I had a lot of emotion. I felt very emotional yesterday.
00:25:46
Speaker
i and I felt like I needed to relax. So what do you do when you relax and you're a millennial and you have no kids? You take an edible. oh Yeah.
00:25:58
Speaker
And you sit down and you watch one of your favorite movies, which is exactly what I planned on doing. and And so I did that. And the beginning was fine. Around the time that I stopped taking notes is the time that the edible hit.
00:26:15
Speaker
um And that's when I started texting Katie. And let me just, I'm just going to read the texts that I sent you. um And i was i was I was at a game night with some friends and I was not ah immediately responsive, so I apologize for that.
00:26:32
Speaker
That's okay, because then I just felt the need to immediately text eight more people. um
00:26:40
Speaker
ah Here's what I said. I said, might I suggest not taking an edible before watching Enchanted? I'm currently questioning the ethos of this whole cinematic universe. Like, which is the real world?
00:26:53
Speaker
The singing Disney one or gross New York? Because in my mind, I was like, but everyone knows all the songs. So because is is Patrick Dempsey the only one not in a Disney musical?
00:27:03
Speaker
And in which case, is he the one that's crazy?
00:27:09
Speaker
Well, you really got into the lore of this. I really um To which I responded, all were all worlds are real. yes And then I said, this might have been the perfect new lens to watch this movie. And Katie said, I watched it stone sober at 9am this morning with some nice Ritz crackers and peanut butter. Delightful time.
00:27:29
Speaker
To which I went, bah, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then I typed out eight different jokes, deleted them. oh yeah. Yeah, because you weren't there. So you don't know. I was like trying to think of a funny thing to say.
00:27:42
Speaker
And I kept like changing my mind. um To which I wrote completely different experience.
00:27:51
Speaker
Was the one I went with. And then then I started having a realization that Giselle was basically a toddler in this situation. And I was like, yeah, is this charming or is it gross?
00:28:05
Speaker
Am ruining Enchanted by watching this on an edible? By thinking about it too deeply? Yeah. I was thinking about it too deeply. and then i And then I went down this whole like path, more morality path where I was like, but I didn't have an issue with Hot Frosty.
00:28:21
Speaker
Why do I have an issue with Giselle? Is it because Hot Frosty was a boy and this is a girl? Am I sexist?
00:28:30
Speaker
You can't be sexist against men, first of all. The people who hold the power can't be discriminated against in a... ah and i um and and it wow i'm i'm trying to try hate you I don't know what I'm trying to say here.
00:28:46
Speaker
um ah So yeah, well, yeah, basically. That's not the word I was looking for, but that's what I mean. um yeah A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. But it's She also matures so quickly once she's in the real world, kind of like Hot Frosty.
00:29:03
Speaker
um Because she's almost...
00:29:09
Speaker
she's she's so single. She's, I mean, here it is. She's, she's a two dimensional character that becomes three dimensional by the end of the movie by interacting with three dimensional characters. Like that's what happens. Yes. Um, but there are some, I do have some notes about it, which, um, which I guess we'll get to like in the restaurant scene. That's where it dawned on me. Yeah.
00:29:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Um, where he's doing the magic trick and she's just like, Oh, yeah. yeah And was like, this is like a man showing his two-year-old daughter a magic trick.
00:29:39
Speaker
And we're to think this is romantic? Yeah, the making a salt, to does the he head of a salt shaker disappear is something you do for children. um That's... Yes.
00:29:49
Speaker
Awkward. um But again, like, yeah, but as as it progresses, she does kind of become, she does mature. i am wouldn't necessarily say into like a 33-year-old woman, ah but... Closer, for sure.
00:30:04
Speaker
closer less gross I guess yeah like I mean she hasn't had sex in the cartoon no she had I don't think she's even kissed somebody yeah yeah um so that's awkward um yeah you gotta think about the like the logistics of that you know it's she's pushing her fingers together um Let's back up, though.
'Enchanted' Film Analysis
00:30:34
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Let's let's start from the beginning.
00:30:36
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had to let the audience know the lens in which I rewatched this film. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um Yeah, sometimes sometimes you don't... There's some movies that you don't want to watch inedible with. But again, I wouldn't have thought that this one is one of those movies.
00:30:48
Speaker
Same. I didn't either. We like a lot of times we do movie night and um i I actually don't, I don't smoke that much. i I don't smoke at all, but I don't really take edibles that often um anymore because it kind of like, I don't know, they're too strong for me. I'm such a, I'm such a fucking lightweight.
00:31:08
Speaker
Well, and like when we were in Virginia, and we went to um we went to the like the weed markets, like a farmer's market for for weed. um Because they're, I mean, it's legal in Virginia, but it's a lot it's a lot less regulated than it is in in Chicago.
00:31:22
Speaker
um And everything there is so strong because it's just people who, a lot of people grow this themselves. mean, there's companies who have the gummies and everything, which is what I bought. But a lot of it is just people who grow it, selling it at this yeah farmer's market for for weed farmers.
00:31:38
Speaker
Um, and, but I, and I got these edibles that just absolutely just like send me into outer space. Um, but I would tell people it's like, yeah, I usually take like five milligrams and they're like, okay, baby.
00:31:52
Speaker
Like, yeah. I'm not like a weed person, you know? Yeah. I mean, am not either. i enjoy an edible, but I always, the edibles I buy are like five milligrams. They're like teeny tiny little baby edibles.
00:32:06
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Katie and enjoy the same level. At this market, they didn't even have five milligrams. The smallest one I could get was 25. The smallest milligram edibles I could get were 25. So I have to like take like a little tiny piece of it.
00:32:18
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And if I get too much, I'm screwed. Because I'll be high in the morning the next day. like or i'll be or I'll get weed hungover where I just feel drained. Anyway, it doesn't matter.
00:32:30
Speaker
um Yeah, because we had movie night the other night and and Cassie picked Inland Empire, which is a three-hour David Lynch nightmare of a movie. like i think it's I think it's good, but it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, there's no way we should get high for this. like There's some movies that you don't want to be high for because that's going to like... yeah It's going to just destroy you. Yeah.
00:32:52
Speaker
I honestly thought it was going to be a fun time. I was like, this is one of my favorite movies. I've loved it since college. Like it, it means a lot to me emotionally. um And it's just like lighthearted, like a love letter to Disney.
00:33:06
Speaker
ah What could be more fun? ah It was not fun, Katie.
00:33:15
Speaker
Well, I had a great time. I'm glad that you had a great time. So the movie starts um with the, you know, the Walt Disney logo. the i guess it's I guess it's not the one they're using anymore. i i You know, honestly, I couldn't tell you the last time I saw is a new Disney movie. like They do it.
00:33:34
Speaker
It's a little bit more like CGI now. because Yeah, but this one is the one. Cinderella's castle. Yeah, this is the one where it shows the train. This is the one from the early, to from the mid-2000s. Like, I think it was probably new in 2007.
00:33:46
Speaker
It shows the train. It's playing, know, the best song from any Disney movie ever, When You Were Should Call a Star. Yeah. And it goes into the window of Cinderella's Castle, um and it shows the book there, which is how Sleeping Beauty starts.
00:34:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. ah And I believe Snow White as well, and maybe Cinderella. All of the original princess movies started this way. They have the the blue ah capital Gothic font on the screen that says Walt very old school.
00:34:16
Speaker
Love that. And then the book says Enchanted. And Julie Andrews starts narrating. And then she disappears for the rest of the movie. Until the ending. She comes back at the end.
00:34:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, her voice comes back at the end. But yeah, she's she it's she's got like maybe three lines in the whole movie. um But it's still it's still nice. It's always nice to hear Julie Andrews' voice. Oh, of course.
00:34:39
Speaker
Yeah. um And we're introduced to to the world Andalasia. Andalasia. Andalasia, which i I never thought that was a good fantasy world name.
00:34:54
Speaker
Well, it's too close to a real place. I mean, Andalusia is a um is a region in Spain, and that's that's one letter away. Yeah. Well, that's so confusing. Why couldn't you name it like... Okay, boys, seriously?
00:35:09
Speaker
Seriously, you need to stop. Mom's on... Mom's recording. Stop it. Hey.
00:35:19
Speaker
I'm a rowdy voice. My rowdy voice. Um... back under your hair
00:35:29
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um but yeah I just I never thought that it was a good name yeah well no I'm editing this one oh right right right yeah yeah um yeah but yeah it's I just have never really liked that name for like a fantasy world I just think I think Disney has done better I thought that that was like the laziest writing Yeah, yeah.
00:35:50
Speaker
Well, another thing that's interesting, this movie started as an R-rated script. So in the 90s, in the 90s, it was, I think, I, again, i someone might be able to find the screenplay. Apparently you can find a bunch of screenplays online if you're into that sort of thing. That's beyond the scope.
00:36:05
Speaker
This is not a research podcast. um I don't think we've said that in a while. want to read it. um But yeah, there is, um it is built Bill Kelly's original screenplay from like 1995 or whatever, um probably around the same time he sold Blast Women Pass.
00:36:23
Speaker
It is an R-rated script about a Disney princess falling into New York. And it's I think it's a lot seedier. um Apparently she's mistaken for a stripper. um There's a lot else going on in that, I would imagine.
00:36:36
Speaker
And it was not, you know, it wasn't Disney themed because it was, you know, not Disney hadn't bought it. So think more like Cool World, I guess. Yeah. And it got bought and rewritten a bunch of times and changed studios.
00:36:52
Speaker
It got, it was completely rewritten by like four different people. And then by the time it came back to Disney and um the the producers, um Barry Seinfeld was the producer on this movie. By the time that they got back involved, they brought Bill Kelly back and he rewrote the script to be a- family movie himself so he's the only credited screenwriter um because it is him rewriting his own script so those other scripts are are in between somewhere so insane that's so but yeah that's the that's the origin of the movie yeah
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah. um This movie also is chock full of Disney Easter eggs because, you know, obviously they love themselves. and which is It's just straight up thumper um in the in the Woodland Critters scene. like it yeah Oh, yeah.
00:37:38
Speaker
Straight up thumper. um But did you did you know this? This is the first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts. um There are several OG Disney princesses that make cameos in this movie.
00:37:53
Speaker
um Oh, I recognize. Well, go ahead. Sorry. who Oh, I was going to say, can you guess who and where they are? I was about to take credit for I didn't recognize it. Caitlin recognized um um Jodi Benson.
00:38:07
Speaker
Ariel is his assistant secretary. Yeah. Yeah. Jodie Benson is the assistant secretary. um There's a scene where um Prince ah James Marsden.
00:38:23
Speaker
What's his name? Prince Edward is ah in New York watching a soap opera on TV. And that's where you get Paige O'Hara, who is the OG Belle.
00:38:35
Speaker
She is in that soap opera. we have That's a correction from a previous episode because I think we got confused at some point. we were There was someone in another movie that we were saying was Belle from Beauty and the Beast, but she's not. Paige O'Hara is Belle from Beauty and the Beast. It's this woman.
00:38:48
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember we knew- don't remember what episode that was in. We did like a broad- There was a Broadway Belle that we had from- um
00:38:59
Speaker
Oh, it was Anastasia. It was Anastasia. Oh, Anastasia. Anastasia. Okay. Yeah. um So yeah. So you get Paige O'Hara in the soap opera. So when Prince Edward is in the Upper West Side apartment, he is looking for Giselle and he knocks on a bunch of doors and he gets to one door where it's a lady with 80,000 kids.
00:39:18
Speaker
And she goes, you're too late. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. Um, that is played by Judy Kuhn, who is, believe it or not, the singing voice for Pocahontas.
00:39:30
Speaker
But, but Emma, she's not Native American. Um, yeah, so we're in Andalacia. Woodland Critters are helping Giselle, who is a living in a in a tree. Does she live in a tree? She lives in a little house. It's a hollow tree.
00:39:45
Speaker
It's a hollow tree. Oh, yeah, it's a little house. Yeah, no, she just says, that's where she says she wants to just rest her head for a moment. yeah um and all the animals are are helping her like get dressed and and do everything that she needs to do in her house she sings like her little her little trill and the the animals come to help her um she's she's friends with a little chipmunk uh named pit who has like a
00:40:16
Speaker
who has a New York accent. So we have to assume that like in in the overlay of Andalasia, like their region, like just sits right over Manhattan, right?
00:40:26
Speaker
Like, yeah. Yeah. So, so it's just fairytale Manhattan.
00:40:32
Speaker
Yeah. Except, ah you know, rural instead of, uh, or, um, pastoral, I suppose. Although, although she's relatively close to the palace because he's hunting a troll nearby. So maybe there is a big city nearby. Exactly.
00:40:45
Speaker
We don't get a lot of lore on Andalasia in this movie. No, we don't really find out a lot about it. So we know that she's waiting for a true love's kiss and she sings one of four songs in this movie.
00:40:57
Speaker
Yep. This thing where like, they're a little afraid to make it a musical. They kind of want to like ride the line between is this a musical or is it not? So we do four songs.
00:41:12
Speaker
One of which is like, is a diegetic song that's sung by a performer in the movie. um So really only three musical theater songs, all three of which were nominated for best song at the Oscars and all three of which lost to Falling Slowly from Once. What did they lose Oh, okay. I'll let that go. I'll let that go. Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:34
Speaker
Yeah. That's, that's a once. Love it. But they also changed the rules in the Oscars after this, because I think there was another movie, maybe even the year before that it also had three songs because they all compete against each other and they lose.
00:41:48
Speaker
So now the rule at the Oscars is you can only have two. songs from the same movie. I feel like you should, you should only pick one. I mean, you would think so, right? but Yeah, that's the thing that makes sense.
00:42:01
Speaker
But, you know, who am I? Whatever. Not part of the Academy. Well, I think that there's a lot lot there's not a lot of Best Song. like Did you look at the Best Song cat ah nominees from this year? They were all garbage.
00:42:14
Speaker
Well, and the winner was not great. Well, every time there'll be a musical, they'll have... they'll have it ah you know to at least two songs in there and then there'll be like one other random song from a movie. There's not a lot of songs in movies anymore.
00:42:27
Speaker
um Yeah. i am I'm kind of surprised they still have the category. Yeah. just Despite how much I love the best song Oscar. I know. That's one of my favorite parts of the Oscars is when everyone comes out to perform their songs.
00:42:41
Speaker
Yeah. And some years are really good, but some years are just really dry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Understand. Oh. oh So we're 45 minutes into this episode and like maybe one minute into the movie, I think, like just at the beginning scene.
00:42:59
Speaker
Anyways, moving um So, yeah. so we meet ah Prince Edward, who is on a troll hunt with who is James Marsden. Again, they're all animated at this point um with Timothy Spall, who is his like manservant, Sebastian, who has such a great arc in this movie. Honestly, like, yeah, it's.
00:43:20
Speaker
He really does. He's kind of like the the supporting actor. He's a bigger part than James Marston almost. Yeah. He has a bigger transformation because James Marston has no transformation. Pretty no. James Marston is just that typical 2D like Disney Prince sort of, I'm in love with myself and every single joke is, oh, you miss me?
00:43:42
Speaker
You love me? All about me? That sort of thing. But it's it's not it's not quite... he's not a villain. Like he's not guest on. He's not.
00:43:53
Speaker
um It doesn't ever fall into that kind of thing. He's still really good natured and sweet at the end. um And that's true of like all, all, all of the characters really. Cause Idina Menzel is also not a villain. Like Idina Menzel is a very sympathetic character.
00:44:09
Speaker
oh for sure. Which is nice. Which we also get Idina Menzel who is, you know, um Elsa from Frozen. ah And she gets, zero song zero zero songs which is wild it's kind of like one of those things where it's like victor garber shows up in all these movies and tv shows and i'm like why do you not make him sing like there's yeah there's a um i think i've talked about legends of tomorrow this bizarre uh cw show that i was really into they have a musical episode and victor garber doesn't sing in it like he's a regular on the show and he doesn't it's yeah absolutely insane neither here nor there
00:44:49
Speaker
The songs are by Alan Menken and um Stephen Schwartz. Yes. um Does Stephen Schwartz have an Oscar? Maybe.
00:45:00
Speaker
Oscar winning, at least definitely Tony winning um yeah composers and composers and lyricists. um yeah Stephen Schwartz wrote Wicked, which, you know, amazing. Idina Menzel. And there's like this bit where they land in Times Square and there's a huge Wicked poster. There's a Wicked poster. There's a Rent poster. There's Hairspray. yeah And then, of course, everyone's favorite musical, Lestat, the musical.
00:45:23
Speaker
Lestat. I know. I was looking. one of my favorite things about watching movies where they have Times Square is looking at all the posters to see like where in Broadway history are we right now? um So we have And we're at Lestat.
00:45:36
Speaker
Yeah, we're at Lestat. um But also The TKTS stairs aren't there yet Like it's a very Oh shit Yeah it's it's Times Square of 2000 I imagine they probably filmed this in 2006 But um yeah Times Square of 2006 Was a different place I mean all of those stores are gone Like the Big Virgin Records store like Yeah All of that shit has completely changed Times Square is a good marker For what's happening in New York Yeah I don't know if this was the edible making me think too deeply about this.
00:46:10
Speaker
um But and so when Prince Edward enters into New York city, he is riding a bus around New York city and he stabbed.
00:46:21
Speaker
And yes he thinks it's a dragon. And then the bus driver yells at him and like gets off the bus, stops the bus and like yells at him. The bus driver is unfortunately, this is 2007.
00:46:37
Speaker
And I feel like this is a bad stereotype. And I felt bad for this actor who had to audition for this role. Because I imagine it is something that she would have walked in and they would have asked her to do it for urban.
00:46:51
Speaker
um Yeah, she's a sassy black bus driver. Yeah. Yeah. And so as I'm watching this and cringing, she's giving this
00:47:02
Speaker
stereotype monologue in front of a giant poster of the color purple. And I was like, oh yeah this feels bad.
00:47:15
Speaker
I don't like this. I'm so sorry. i' yeah There are times it does remind you that it's almost 20 years ago. um Not that necessarily like big Hollywood movies have completely abandoned that kind of thing, but it was definitely more prevalent.
00:47:32
Speaker
18 years ago than it was now. Oh, for sure. And then it is like bookended by like two homophobic gay jokes. And, uh, I was just sort of like, Ooh, wolf.
00:47:45
Speaker
Ooh, wolf. Ooh, wolf. It's hard. It's in that, it's in that kind of in between period where like, they wouldn't do that now, but it's not straight up, like on its face homophobic. It's one of those things where, um, he comes out and the guy, uh,
00:48:01
Speaker
he So but what happens is Susan Sarandon's character, which is James Marsden's stepmom in the cartoon world, is an evil stepmom, obviously. She doesn't want him to get married because that would usurp her power as queen.
00:48:16
Speaker
So she's trying to stop their relationship. um Oh, yeah. James Marsden meets Amy Adams in the cartoon world. And they yeah he's like, let's get married tomorrow. I saved you from this troll. So we'll get married tomorrow. she's like, of course. Yes.
00:48:30
Speaker
At her wedding, she's in this big poofy wedding dress. um Susan Sarandon disguised herself as a witch. She's like, look into this fountain and go and you'll have a wish for your wedding. And she pushes her in. She comes out in Times Square.
00:48:43
Speaker
Yes. In a big wedding dress, live action now. And she's in New York. James Martin, the squirrel... Pip sees this, goes to get James Marsden, and the two of them go through. James Marsden and Pip go through the the the well, come out in New York.
00:48:57
Speaker
Pip, who could speak in the cartoon world, can no longer speak. And he's a CGI squirrel. And he's like... He goes... He goes... Like, he can make syllables.
00:49:09
Speaker
Yes. He's very good at charades, but James Marsden is an idiot and cannot understand. Then... then Susan Sarandon sends Sebastian, who's in love with her. This is Timothy Spall's character, who is supposed to be James Marsden's like friend and like, you know, butler or whatever. Yeah. Like a little assistant boy.
00:49:29
Speaker
His boon companion. Sends him down in there to to stop him from um finding Giselle. And so he's like the villain for the first like two thirds of this movie.
00:49:44
Speaker
And he's because he's trying just to screw up James Marsden the whole time when he comes out of the because they all come out separately and people see them each time. It's a little bit like Glass from the Past. Like the first thing I thought about was leave my elevator alone at this manhole in Times Square.
00:50:01
Speaker
Leave my elevator alone.
Giselle's NYC Adventure
00:50:04
Speaker
Because they keep talking to people like there's a whole bit with the construction workers with James Marsden and the squirrel. um And he says he's looking for a princess. And then when Timothy Spall comes up later, James Marsden isn't there. the construction workers say, are you looking for a princess? And he goes, no, I'm looking for a prince.
00:50:20
Speaker
And he just kind of like, was like, okay. So it's like this weird period where like 10 years earlier, that would have been like a, Oh, get a load of this guy. um kind Homophobic joke, but we're not to acceptance yet where it's still supposed to be like funny that they think that he's looking for a man.
00:50:40
Speaker
But it's not quite... Yeah, that he's gay. Yeah. But they're kind of accepting that he... They're like, okay, sure, you can look for a prince. So it's this weird yeah like gray area of homophobic gay jokes in movies, you know? It's interesting. It's an interesting time.
00:50:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it's very bizarre. It's... and Because like there would be like moments, and it's like not blatantly like super homophobic, but you watch it in hindsight or on an edible where you're questioning every single line of dialogue.
00:51:08
Speaker
Sure. you're yeah and you just sort of are like o o oh oh yeah wait it's uncomfortable yeah and it i just sort of like i was like but i loved movie
00:51:25
Speaker
i don't think it's enough to ruin the movie for me um i i still had a great time with this um yeah so um she has a rough time uh in a the biggest fucking like hoop skirt wedding dress with the sleeves no idea like how you move around in this thing um and we also meet patrick dempsey uh patrick dempsey coming hot off of gray's anatomy um sexiest man alive somewhere in there um yep he is um he's he's pretty cute um yeah and he's a divorce lawyer
00:52:04
Speaker
He's a divorce lawyer. So she's looking for true love and he's a divorce lawyer. He's a divorce lawyer. and he has an adorable little kid, of course, who wants to believe in fairy tales. And he's trying to tell her that like, he gives her a book of influential women. And he's like, Marie Curie, like she died from her research. And she's like, I'm six years old.
00:52:28
Speaker
Yeah, she's like, what what about the fairy tales and things? um But like, okay, so here's my question about the mother. So that we it's never really fully explained where um little girl's mom is.
00:52:43
Speaker
It's sort of implied that she just like got up and left. Yeah, well, he says that she left, yeah. She left, but like that could also mean she died. Yeah, I think that my i again, I hadn't in't seen this movie in a while. And I didn't remember what happened to her. So my assumption was that she was dead. Because he's like, we don't talk about it.
00:53:03
Speaker
But yeah exactly I think that she left. I think that she she like left them. And so that's part of the reason he doesn't believe in true love. You know, if she had died, that's not a reason to not necessarily believe in in love, you know.
00:53:18
Speaker
Yeah. ah But then like the way that the kid's acting the entire time is like as if she died because like they go on a, her and Giselle go on a shopping trip and she goes, is this what it's like? And she goes, and Giselle's like, what do you mean? And she's like shopping with your mother. And she's like, I've never been shopping with my mother.
00:53:33
Speaker
And, ah but this is fun. And it's a very heartwarming scene, but it feels, know, Well, I think she's grown up without a mother. Like, she's only six. And, like, her mother's definitely gone for long Her mother probably left when she was a baby. She doesn't remember her. Yeah.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah. That's very true. And also, where's Giselle's parents? Like, does she not have... Yeah, and what happened? We don't get into that. Maybe she was hatched from an egg. Maybe she was hatched from an egg.
00:53:58
Speaker
um Yeah, it is. It's a Disney princess trope. um Yeah, exactly. Her mother was probably killed by a hunter or something. Yeah, which I was actually surprised that they didn't up kill off the mom.
00:54:12
Speaker
Because that is such a trope. Yeah. Yeah. Idina Menzel is Patrick Dempsey's girlfriend, who he's going to propose to. yeah and But and more Morgan, his daughter, like, it's not that she doesn't like her. It's just that she's not, I don't think she's ready for her dad to to marry somebody, I think is the point. Because she's very likable and sweet. Like, she's not- Again, she's not villainous or or kind of you know rude, or she's not even like the the classic, like the wrong girl in a rom-com where she's you know she's not all business and she's not you know too busy for for the kid or she's very sweet to the little girl. She's more of a romantic than he is. Like every time something like that happens, like she's way into it and he's not, which is kind of, they're just wrong for each other. yeah
00:55:05
Speaker
They're just wrong for each other. And like, she's making such an attempt to have a relationship with Morgan. Like she was going um, the first morning that Giselle's is there, she like comes over to take Morgan to school and she goes, what's up girlfriend.
00:55:18
Speaker
And like, obviously very much trying to have a relationship. It's just, it's very sweet. Yeah. Yeah. um So yeah, Patrick Dempsey um meets her because they're in a cab. He and his daughter cab and she's on a billboard of a castle trying to get in the door. Yes. Very sad.
00:55:37
Speaker
After someone stole her tiara. And they see her and the little girl just gets out of the cab, which like. Yeah. Terrifying. That's not safe. Yeah. um And he runs after her and then they take her to their house and let her stay there, which is.
00:55:55
Speaker
insane yeah the first like third of this movie i was watching it being like this could turn into a horror movie so easily this could be real real bad two decisions away from a murder horror movie he's trying to help her and he's like she's like i'm looking for edward and he's like okay well we can find edward like where does he live and she's like and alaysia she' obviously very disturbed um and she's wearing this big ass wedding dress um he's not gonna let her stay at their house but then he changes uh his mind um because he does say to he does say to his daughter like you're gonna come and stay it you're gonna sleep and you're gonna sleep with me tonight get it you're not staying here which is like the only like reasonable thing in this movie where it's like if you get a stranger in the house maybe maybe like let not leave the kid in her room alone exactly
00:56:54
Speaker
Yeah. um She, cause she like falls asleep and she wakes up the next morning and then she does the thing that she always does. Like their apartment is a wreck. He's a single dad who works too much and they she decides to clean the house.
00:57:07
Speaker
So she sings the happy working song. So good. And she calls out the window and all of the New York wildlife, the pigeons and rats and flies and cockroaches come into the apartment to help her clean.
00:57:24
Speaker
um And it's very cute and gross. Yeah. I've never seen cockroaches look so charming. I mostly cover my eyes when the cockroaches are on screen. I have a bug thing.
00:57:39
Speaker
ah But the rats, the rats are drying the dishes with their little rat butts. It's like, You do not want to eat any of that stuff. It's just so full of disease.
00:57:50
Speaker
All of these people died of typhoid. Like, yeah. Um, that's what happens in the sequel. Yeah. Yeah. They all die.
00:58:02
Speaker
um yeah. And uh, She makes a dress out of the curtains. um yeah She takes a shower and Idina Menzel walks in and sees her yeah shes her in a towel, of course, because that's what happens in a rom-com.
00:58:17
Speaker
Well, it looks so suspicious because they like trip and fall and she falls on Patrick Dempsey and then she straddles him in a towel. Can you blame her? Like, she's like, she's like naked. And it just like, it looks like they just got done doing it front of their kid.
00:58:35
Speaker
yeah And she's like, you never let me spend the night with your kid. but i know you I didn't know it was because it was of the crowd or something like that. Yeah, the crowd control. Yeah. And so she storms out. Patrick Dempsey's like, this woman is ruining my life.
00:58:51
Speaker
And that's when my mind was like, oh my God, this would be a great horror movie. um Because what if Giselle just slowly ruins his life ah instead of makes it better?
00:59:01
Speaker
um and ah And so he's just like, okay, well, you've got to go. You've got to go. You've got to go. And he takes her to work and ah because he's late for his meeting with this like big client.
00:59:16
Speaker
A big divorce, yeah. a big divorce exactly and asks uh jody benson if he could if she can like figure out where she's from and just like figure out how to get rid of her um to which jody benson is like um okay sure and giselle comes up to her with to say hello she's been drinking the fish tank And she leans over, fish drops out of her mouth, and she smiles like a crazy person.
00:59:49
Speaker
And again, another moment that this could be a horror movie. It's it's one of the, it is, it's like, does this, does she have like agency? Like, is she aware of her surroundings at all?
01:00:03
Speaker
Because I imagine that like- you guy had a late They have fish in bowls in Andalasia. Like, I mean, maybe it's not like an electric aquarium, but they have, like, they have, people have pet fish.
01:00:14
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like So why are you putting in your mouth? fantasy world? I don't know. Yeah. ah That part um made no sense to me. And then she, of course, like, her with her her cartoonish charm, talks to the the couple who are getting divorced, and we find out later that she convinces them to get back together, um taking the money away from Patrick Dempsey, which is great.
01:00:35
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Exactly. um Yeah. And then he takes her to the park and says, like, I'm i'm done. I can't do this anymore. Yeah. Here's money. And she goes, she goes here goes, here's some money. And he says, I wish you.
01:00:47
Speaker
And she's like, I wish you every happiness. And then Caitlin turns to me and she goes, this is what it's like being mean to you. What?
01:01:00
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yeah Like, it's just like kicking a puppy. Like, you can't yeah can't be mean to you. It's like, oh, because I'm tea i'm so sweet. happy been She's like, yeah which, like, there's worse things to be, I suppose.
01:01:13
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. um But he can't do it. And he goes back and talks to her. He's like, okay, fine. Tell me about this Prince Edward. Yeah.
01:01:25
Speaker
And then he tells her about his girlfriend, Nancy. And he she says, how does she know love her? how do you how does she know you love her And then this starts probably the best part of the movie, the best scene. The best song.
01:01:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. The best song. Um, to which we enter into Charlie's corner, Charlie's corner, Charlie's corner. i governor.
01:01:51
Speaker
That's good. It's a good button. Yeah. Yeah. Um, even though he's not Cockney, um, So Charlie didn't watch this. He had his Wednesday night video game night with his little friends.
01:02:04
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And Emma was too busy being stoned in the bedroom watching this movie. Yes. And so I asked him, i was like, because he loves this movie. I made him watch it. I think earlier last year when we first moved Connecticut, it was one of our night picks.
01:02:22
Speaker
And it was like one of his few five star reviews on Letterboxd. Okay. okay He loves this movie. And ah so I asked him if he could watch it when I went to bed and then give me his notes in the morning.
01:02:36
Speaker
And his notes and my notes, we had the same note. which is in the scene where Giselle is running around Central Park singing How Does She Know? And everyone's singing with her and she's having a great time. And then you just see Patrick Dempsey in the background just being like, what are you doing?
01:02:55
Speaker
You know, people can hear you. What's wrong with you? Yeah. um We both said, that's what it's like being in public with me and him. Aww.
01:03:08
Speaker
ah Both of our partners compared us to Giselle. Like, I think we win. like that's think we win. we obviously win, right? We are Giselle and our partners are grumpy Patrick Dempsey.
01:03:23
Speaker
but We are peak grumpy sunshine trope. What's funny about Caitlin is that Caitlin vacillates wildly between Giselle and Patrick Dempsey, though. It really depends on her mood. Like she can be either one at any time.
01:03:40
Speaker
Charlie is always Patrick Dempsey. That's true. That's true. Just wanting to take the magic out of life. Oh, God.
01:03:52
Speaker
I'm kidding. don't like that. He's a realist. I mean, every now and again, you gotta, you gotta have a partner who's a little bit of a realist so that you don't go around singing in New York city and, you know giving money to strangers because they seem nice.
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. um they ah She gets all of Central Park on her side. like It becomes a big dance. There's big dance number in this. like She infects all of Central Park to join her in this song. She gets like these um these like steel drum players involved in the song. Yeah.
01:04:31
Speaker
It becomes a huge musical number like in the middle yeah of this of this movie and everyone is there's they all these people are dancing and Patrick Dempsey is like but what is happening? Did y'all rehearse for this? Right?
01:04:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um Which brings me to the next of Emma's Fun Facts, Emma's Fun Facts. So there's some like elderly men and women who do a cute little like dance number.
01:04:57
Speaker
um And the guys, the dancers that are playing, I don't know ah ah this is true about the women, but I know that the men in that, um those elderly men, I think there's like four of them, were all chimney sweeps in Mary Poppins.
01:05:12
Speaker
Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Little Easter egg there. a little Disney any reference. Yeah. um Meanwhile, James Marsden is looking for her and Timothy Spall is trying to distract him.
01:05:25
Speaker
ah Yeah, and poison her. Yeah, Pip the chipmunk is constantly trying to tell James Marsden what's happening and not to trust Sebastian. But James Marsden's terrible at charades.
01:05:36
Speaker
um you just't And Pip is great at it. um Yeah, so Timothy Spall is kind of in love with the evil queen, um Susan Sarandon's character, and she's talking to him through like water, ah like reflections, right? Like a magic mirror.
01:05:51
Speaker
Yeah. And she gives him like three three poison apples. And it's like, kill this bitch, right? Kill this bitch. Do it. so throughout the court throughout the course of the movie, he appears in increasingly racist disguises,
01:06:06
Speaker
um to try to get her to eat an apple. ah um yeah First, he offers her a caramel apple. It's a free caramel apple day!
01:06:18
Speaker
Yeah, which she flings away in a grant making a grand gesture, which is fair. sir Later on at the restaurant, he is dressed as a racist Italian stereotype um and tries to get her to drink an apple martini, which Pip knocks away.
01:06:37
Speaker
And then at the end, he's like an Arab cab driver. Like it's yeah wild that they let him do that. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, 2007, we'll put it in the category of things that did not age well.
01:06:53
Speaker
Yeah. He is slowly kind of um realizing that she ah the woman he loves doesn't respect him ah by watching soap operas.
01:07:05
Speaker
Yes.
01:07:08
Speaker
And he he says to James Marsden, he goes, do you like yourself? And James Marsden goes, what's not to like? um So Sebastian is having this ah this this arc of ah self-actualization throughout this movie, and he realizes that she doesn't deserve him.
01:07:25
Speaker
Yeah. And then there's... So he explains to to Amy Adams what a date is. Like, he says, you met this man yesterday and you're already getting married? you haven't even gone on a date.
01:07:38
Speaker
She goes, yeah, but like, that's just how things work in my world. Yeah. What is a date? It's like a date is where like you go have dinner and talk about yourselves. And then like, they go on a date and it doesn't, it's like we skipped something. Like, why are they going on date?
01:07:53
Speaker
There's a few moments that I feel like the script was like, either they had filmed stuff and they cut it for time. Cause obviously kids, you know want to make this more closer to the 90 minute round range. Yeah. um But like,
01:08:06
Speaker
There's a whole scene where we don't find out how James Marsden finds out that she went down the well um and then runs down the well himself. That's right.
01:08:16
Speaker
There's that in between the date and then them at the pizza place. on and And then there's a... Oh, go on. no No, no, no, you say, yeah, yeah. Oh, I can't remember. i actually didn't. Oh, oh yeah. The third one for me at least was when she takes his daughter out shopping.
01:08:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where does he think his daughter was all day? Like where was she just alone? She's six. Um, it's, and she just like walks into their apartment.
01:08:48
Speaker
Like, how? Yeah. And then he do he doesn't know she's back at that point. Like, it's, yeah, there's yeah that's a big, um that's a big plot hole there. Yeah, yeah.
01:09:00
Speaker
So, ah so yes, they go to this, attack they go to the restaurant's called Bella Notte, because of course it is. Yeah. um You know, Lady in the Tramp. Yeah. um They, and they have this dinner and this is where he does the magic trick for her. And she's like, ah she's three years old. It's weird.
01:09:17
Speaker
Yeah. It's very uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable. But then like they start talking about stuff and she's like, you know, is it, is it hard for, for her? Like, tell me what happened to her mom. And like, they have this like real conversation.
01:09:31
Speaker
um She's starting to like become more of a, of a woman at this point. Yeah. Yeah. And then poor Pip just keeps getting tortured by this this ah horrible man. Pip.
01:09:45
Speaker
I know. Pip is trying to so hard. he he He crucifies Pip on a clothes hanger by pinching his little paws on the like pants clip things.
01:09:57
Speaker
And then Pip escapes and rides it like a zip line. That's incredible. This is Pip's movie, really. Yeah. I want to see Pip's story. I want to read Pip's book. He tries to throw him in a... um in a pizza oven, but he gets caught in a glass, and then later he shits out a nut.
01:10:14
Speaker
Which is
01:10:18
Speaker
very like you' were reminded that this is a children's movie. um
01:10:25
Speaker
I love the fact that they like very dramatically kill Pip, to which the entire restaurant cheers because they think that it's this like insane rodent that's gone rogue.
01:10:38
Speaker
news like i guess it's new york one you know like new york one is just following these people around throughout this whole movie reporting on it minute by minute and they're like this chipmunk was in a restaurant like this is on the news really it's like are you how do you feel how do you feel that this rodent is still alive he's like he's one of my best friends Yeah, because they have to explain to the audience that Giselle knows that Pip isn't dead.
01:11:06
Speaker
um yeah Because she has this very like heartbreaking like emotional because she thinks that Pip got exploded in the pizza Yes. Which is traumatic. like I was like, this is so traumatic. Why would we even have this?
01:11:19
Speaker
I feel like we could have cut all of this and done this in a better, less traumatic way. James Morrison has to find out where she is because she tells him on the news report on this chipmunk at the pizza place says the word on 116th and Riverside.
01:11:35
Speaker
Yes. 116th and Riverside! It's like Morningside Park, I think, is where that is. Yeah. almost like Almost Harlem, basically. Yeah. Westside to Harlem, yeah. yeah um Then they go on...
01:11:53
Speaker
So she's suddenly relaxed. She finally meets Prince Edward. He comes to the, they have this argument. um yeah And that's kind of like, it becomes kind of sexually charged argument. yeah She does it in a men's button up.
01:12:09
Speaker
Yeah, that's right. And they're like yelling at each other and he's, um and then Prince Edward gets there and he's like, I'm here after he knocks on every door in the apartment, we presume. Yep. He finally finds her and she goes off with him. And I think Patrick Dempsey and and she both are a little sad.
01:12:27
Speaker
um Also, we should mention is...
01:12:31
Speaker
Oh, I was going to say, um there's the moment when Patrick, ah when James Martin finds her and he sings, starts to sing her duet. And like, oh she's started to realize that she who really loves um Patrick Dempsey.
01:12:47
Speaker
And so she can't finish the duet because she's no longer feeling, you know, musically connected to Prince Edward. Exactly. They're not in sync, which I thought was a really lovely moment.
01:12:59
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. um We should also mention that she's kind of fixed his relationship with Idina Menzel. She yeah gets these doves to fly flowers to her. He's like, they're doves. They're not going to know where she lives. And she goes, oh, just trust it.
01:13:13
Speaker
And she just says, go to Nancy. Yeah, to Nancy. Yeah. Yeah. um they get tickets for this ball, um yeah that he's going to take Idina Menzel to. Um, yeah and then, so then, um, when Prince Marsden, when James Marsden, um, ah finds her, she's like, he's like, let's go back to Indonesia and get married. And she's like, can we go on a date first? And he's like, what's a date? Yeah.
01:13:41
Speaker
And so they walk around New York. it looks like they're walking across the Brooklyn Bridge, maybe. Yeah, and he's covered in New York, like, ah paraphernalia. Like, he's got the little Statue of Liberty, like, foam hat. He's got, like, an I love New York everything.
01:13:54
Speaker
um To which then Hi Emma started to question, where does he get money? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, i mean, he's got, like, Thornton's or something.
Ball and Climax
01:14:06
Speaker
Exactly. like I don't think that the New York tat shop is going to take gold coins. Yeah. Yeah. So I just had to question that.
01:14:18
Speaker
A couple of things we got to look over in this movie, I think. Yes. Um, yeah. Yes. So um she's like, oh well, there's this ball. Let's go to this ball. And so they also decide to go to the ball. So she needs an outfit.
01:14:32
Speaker
So she, yes I assume Patrick Dempsey is at work or something, leaving a six-year-old child alone with no babysitter. No supervision. Anyway. Yeah. In an unlocked apartment.
01:14:42
Speaker
and they have yeah she just barges in she yeah they have a shopping montage um where they go they they gotta get ready for the ball and she has this like bonding moment with with morgan and i do like that they're like they go to i mean they're expensive stores but they're not like crazy expensive they're not she's not going to like fifth avenue they're not going to like you know, the most expensive. They're not going to you know Prada and and Gucci and and whatever. They go to Calypso and they go to Elie Tahari, which are like yeah upper range, mid range, like stuff, like stuff that would like, um you know, like,
01:15:23
Speaker
Low end designer, I guess is what you would call it. Yeah. ah Yeah. Yeah. Which is exactly, which is nice. Yeah. It is nice to see that. Something that he would probably be upset that they used his credit card on, but it's not like, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars, you know?
01:15:38
Speaker
I mean, did you see how many bags? That's true. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Yeah. um And then the she gets her hair and makeup done. um That's true. that's true like But it looks like an Ulta. So I bet it wasn't that expensive.
01:15:53
Speaker
No. Yeah. Or like a Fred, was going to say a Fred Siegel.
01:15:59
Speaker
Fred Siegel. What year is this? um
01:16:05
Speaker
And my favorite line that um the little girl says is she goes into her dad's room and she grabs the credit card and she goes, well, this is for emergencies only. And this is an emergency.
01:16:18
Speaker
Of course it is. course it's an emergency. Yeah. get that she's on it great yes morgan is on it morgan is they go so meet and then susan sarandon decides that uh she can't trust um sebastian anymore because he's starting to like fight back on her and then she so she finally comes to new york yes um and she's just like blasted magic everywhere all over time square people like she does not care pretty blocked I mean, that that's very New York. that's That's the most realistic depiction of New Yorkers you can you can have. yeah Somebody just ignoring somebody doing something insane. Yeah. um
01:16:58
Speaker
We go to the ball, which I'm not sure where this is supposed to be. It's somewhere in Midtown. don't know. Yeah. um And Patrick Dempsey is... suddenly like way into dancing and like being yeah romantic. Like he started to like get into it, which is nice. Because of Giselle.
01:17:18
Speaker
Yeah. But he's not dancing with Giselle. He's dancing with Idina Menzel, who is like. Yes. Super into this. Yes. She loves it. int Until Giselle and Edward get there and he can't stop staring at Giselle, which like. Yeah.
01:17:33
Speaker
Okay. Of course. Yeah. And she's like, the chemistry's there. And then they have this beautiful... And then they... Okay, this is very much a... Formulated by the movie so that we can have this moment sort of thing.
01:17:47
Speaker
Because the DJ or the like conductor goes, all right, guys, it's that time of the night. It's time for you gentlemen to ask a lady who you did not bring to the ball. Right, yeah. To dance.
01:17:59
Speaker
Everybody dance with a redhead closest to you. um Pretty much what he said. wait I don't know. So he has to dance. So um and James Marsden and Nancy dance together and Amy Adams and Patrick Dempsey dance together.
01:18:17
Speaker
And then like that they're singing the song, the fourth song in the movie, which is sung by some dude at the ball. But Patrick Dempsey starts singing But boy, I listen to this so many times. Yes! But Patrick Dempsey starts singing it to her.
01:18:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And it's like the sexiest waltz I've ever seen. Like it's so sexy charged. and here And this is where we get to the part that I don't understand.
01:18:41
Speaker
um So she Susan Sarandon shows up. She appears as a witch. she um like Patrick Dempsey and Nancy Idina Menzel are dancing together again. um Amy Adams is watching them and you can you can see that she's like you know she's yearning. right And she doesn't know that Patrick Dempsey isn't feeling it with Idina Menzel anymore because they kiss and Idina Menzel can tell that he's not into her anymore.
01:19:07
Speaker
yeah um But Amy Adams doesn't know that. She's watching them dance. And then Susan Sarandon comes up ah disguised as ah as ah as the witch with the apple. And she's like, oh, so you've been left behind or whatever.
01:19:18
Speaker
And she's like, you you'll never know the the love with them, right? Yeah. my My question is, why at this point, why does she care? Because her objective was to get Amy Adams out of Andalasia and to break them her and James Marsden up.
01:19:36
Speaker
The reason she was going to kill her is because James Marsden came after her. Yeah. If she knows that that she's in love with somebody else and wants to stay in New York and doesn't want to doesn't want to come back to Andalasia, why does she now want to kill her?
01:19:51
Speaker
Wouldn't there therere ah their paths be aligned at this point? Isn't that what she wants to? You know what, Katie? Sometimes you just got let yourself go on the wild ride.
01:20:07
Speaker
Yeah. Timothy Spall has a hero turn, of course. Of course. But it's, ah it's, um she, Amy Adams eats the apple, takes a bite out of the apple because she's like, you'll forget everything. Everything will go away if you take a bite out of this apple.
01:20:21
Speaker
She bites the apple. She's going to, she falls into a coma. She's going to die at the stroke of midnight. The only thing that can save her is true love's kiss. James Marsden kisses her. It doesn't work. so Yeah.
01:20:32
Speaker
And then everybody realizes. Yeah. And even Idina Menzel is just like, just kiss her, Patrick. Yeah. Kiss her. He's like, did you call by the actor's name instead of my character's name?
01:20:45
Speaker
She's like, yes. Don't worry about it And so he does. And of course works. And he takes his sweet ass time. The clock is already tolling 12. And she's like, if it tolls midnight, she's going to die. And it's like, toll number six, toll number seven. he's like, very slowly. Like, what the fuck, Patrick? Come on. Dive in there. You got to dive in.
01:21:12
Speaker
It doesn't have to be good kiss. It just got to keep her alive. You just don't like good. Bach. Or sorry, Bartok. I turned into Bartok.
01:21:24
Speaker
You just gotta to keep her alive, dear. Just kiss Kiss um And of course she wakes up, and then yeah Susan Serena's like, alright, fuck this. And she turns into a big CGI dragon.
01:21:40
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Grabs Patrick Dempsey and goes out the window. So so he saved her and now she's got to save him. So she grabs James Marsden's sword and starts scaling the building after the dragon. It's crazy.
01:21:54
Speaker
Absolutely terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. And this is completely because you know someone at Disney was like, well, we can't. It's 2007. We need to have some girl empowerment movies.
01:22:09
Speaker
moments and there's nothing nothing of that sort here so we gotta have her and we also see how she's changed right she has to go from a two two-dimensional princess to like ah ah a three-dimensional like modern woman woman you know modern woman who's gotta fight for her man with a sword yeah but she isn't the really who saves the day um you saying pip is I'm saying Pip saves the day.
01:22:40
Speaker
That's right. yeah yeah Pip loves nuts. And Pip knows that Pip's a little heavy and little fat.
01:22:50
Speaker
Yeah, there is the bit where like it starts to like she's on the tip of like the the radar the radio tower, the radio on top of the thing that starts to lean when he gets up there and he's like looking at himself. Yeah.
01:23:04
Speaker
Yes. It's ridiculous. um She, he, the dragon drops him. She throws the sword, piercing his suit sleeve into what I presume is iron, like part of this roof.
01:23:24
Speaker
Throws a metal sword with the accuracy to pin him to this iron railing. It's incredible. She's superhuman strength. Yeah, this never done any, any, like, sword play, any fencing, any archery, any, anything.
01:23:41
Speaker
Really. yeah um ah And so saves him there. And then um the Pip knocks the balance off and the dragon falls to the street and just blows up into glitter, it looks like.
01:23:53
Speaker
Yeah. and And then he falls and she catches him, which is how Edward met her in the beginning of the movie. Yeah. Yeah.
01:24:03
Speaker
But then they slide down the side of the building, stopping right at the edge, to which they're relieved because they didn't go over and die on the streets of New York City.
01:24:14
Speaker
However, when you pan out, how are they getting down? Very carefully. and but That is still terrifying. Yeah. Like it is still terrifying where they're at.
01:24:28
Speaker
Like absolutely terrifying, but they made it and they're alive. Yeah. Then we get this like, um, picture book. Like we go back to like the pop-up book.
01:24:41
Speaker
And this horrible. Um, and, uh,
01:24:46
Speaker
um and ah Yeah, Idina Menzel and Edward, ah he's like she dropped her shoe and he like puts the shoe on her foot and he's like, it's a perfect fit. And then they just run off to Andalasia and get married immediately. they get married!
01:25:05
Speaker
Yeah, but like they're they're like, she's still a modern woman because she kept her cell phone. She kept her cell phone. Well, it gets it breaks into pieces and all the woodland creatures are like looking at it. Yeah.
01:25:17
Speaker
And Pip writes a bestseller in the cartoon world. And Sebastian writes a bestseller in New York about like, um you know, becoming your own person or something like a self-help book.
01:25:30
Speaker
I love it. love it so much. And then the most like, I just, i think about how hard these things are to film. It's kind of like, like when you're the dead wife in a movie, you know, you got to film the like under the covers, like laughing, like, like spinning in the kitchen thing.
01:25:48
Speaker
Patrick Dempsey and Amy Adams and this little girl are just running around their apartment like airplanes and dancing. And do like, I just, imagine the only thing I can think of is how awkward it must've been to film that.
01:26:02
Speaker
I mean, I imagine it was fine for Amy Adams because she's still in the mindset of Giselle and she has to do a lot of really insane stuff. But Patrick Dempsey, I don't imagine had a good time. It's just,
01:26:14
Speaker
It's just not a, it's not a natural. but It's something that nobody's done ever in yeah in the real world. And it's only movies. Why would you do that? Yeah. Yeah. Why would you do that? ah har And then she opens a, she opens a a clothing store, like Andalasia fashion.
01:26:31
Speaker
And Michaela Conlon works there. Yeah. But she just has no lines. Yeah. I assume that she must have been, had up a scene in the movie earlier that got cut because she was already on Bones at this point. Yeah.
01:26:47
Speaker
If I remember correctly, I want to say in the special DVD features. Sure. Yeah. She was Idina Menzel's like best friend character and her character got cut because Idina Menzel works for a fashion line.
01:27:04
Speaker
Yeah. Not in this movie. She doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's only the only reason you would know that is when she gets the flowers, she's at her office where they're like making clothes. Oh, yeah. You're right. You're right. That sort of insight. And so I'm assuming that because Idina Menzel ran away to Andalasia, Amy Adams just took over Nancy's fashion line and turned it into that.
01:27:30
Speaker
And what's her name? Her bones is there? That might be answered in the sequel, Disenchanted, um which I watched the day it came out and on Disney Plus in 2022.
01:27:43
Speaker
Don't remember that.
Conclusion and Wrap-Up
01:27:45
Speaker
Don't remember anything about it. um It's, she, like Amy Adams becomes the villain in the sequel. Like she makes a wish that everything was like a fairy tale. And so the whole world like changes around her and like, she has to like give it up or something. That's the plot of that movie.
01:28:01
Speaker
um And it's, ah it's what's her name is the, is the villain. um It's basically the same plot as ah no, no, no. um Oh my God. Maya Rudolph.
01:28:13
Speaker
Maya Rudolph. okay.
01:28:17
Speaker
It's basically the same plot as the Scarlet Witch TV show. What was that called? WandaVision. Oh, yeah, WandaVision. It's very similar. It's very similar to that in terms of the overall plot of that movie. It's very strange.
01:28:30
Speaker
They came out the same without fun, like, TV trope things. Correct. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. The only Marvel TV show I watched was WandaVision, and it was pretty good.
01:28:41
Speaker
I liked WandaVision. I also really liked Agatha all along. Caitlin watched that and she really liked it and I haven't watched it because and also I know literally everything that happened because I was on social media when that was coming out so I couldn't avoid it so I'm kind of not really yeah inclined to watch it but I do love Catherine Han obviously.
01:29:00
Speaker
Patti LuPone? And Patti LuPone yes. And Patti LuPone? Um, yeah. Uh, I just, I love anything with witches. I love witches.
01:29:11
Speaker
Sure. Which is great. Do you watch the, the, um, uh, the witch TV show, the, wi the Mayfair witches TV show with, uh, what's her name? I tried watching it. I tried watching that ages ago and I just couldn't get into it, but I think I wasn't in the right mindset.
01:29:26
Speaker
Um, same thing with discovery of witches. I've started that book like 80 times. Oh, sure. Yeah. And. Oh yeah. That's something you would like. yeah Yeah, exactly. It's right up my alley. My mom loves it. She's giving me all the books and all of the like spinoff books because she's read all of them.
01:29:41
Speaker
So I have them all here in my library. I just haven't gotten to it. I like because I'll start it and then like I'll just sort of like fall out and then like it's like a start and stop. And then I was like, I'll watch the show. But then like I started doing.
01:29:54
Speaker
Yeah, it'll come back. It'll come back. It happens. Yeah. It happened. All right. That is enchanted. that was. Yeah. And a bunch of other stuff.
01:30:07
Speaker
And a bunch of other stuff, but that's okay. um Because. Doing some long ones this month. You know, you don't just come here for the movies, guys. You come here for the chit chat and the fun times that Katie and I have.
01:30:21
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Until next time, we're just two girls. Standing in front of the internet. Asking it to love us. Good night. Good night.