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I Want You Back
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Emma & Katie get into some shenanigans this week trying to break up our exes with Charlie Day and Jenny Slate. We also talk quite a bit about escapism and the fascist takeover of the United States, so if you don't wanna listen to that, skip to minute 20 or so, I don't know what to tell ya.
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Introduction to 'My Roommate is a Vampire'
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oh i have a book rack um it takes a book rack and it makes hell yeah i love chicago right you should move that if only you know things weren't so expensive i know right um but uh but have you read my roommate is vampire
00:00:28
Speaker
It does sound like something I would like, though. Yes. Yeah. It is a rom-com book. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. And I think it's a series. It takes place in Chicago.
00:00:38
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And from the writing, definitely sounds like the author lives in Chicago. It's like the way she describes getting around in and like the neighborhoods and stuff. I'm like, oh, this person. Did I write it in a fugue state? That would be awesome. Oh my god maybe.
00:00:51
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That sounds like something I would write. Yeah. Yes. um So far, it's very charming and dumb. I mean, there is an entire scene where her and her roommate watch Buffy together.
00:01:04
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um oh my God. It's super cute. Jenna Levine. yeah My vampire. my roommate is a vampire. My vampire plus one.
00:01:15
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you It's super dumb and super fun. The main character is a, um, uh, an artist who is working like a bunch of like day jobs.
00:01:28
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And, um, she has like a, she goes to a communal art studio. Exactly. She goes to a communal art studio in Pilsen. And I was like, it would be in Pilsen. Um, but she is commuting from Lincoln park. And I'm like, that's a pain in the ass.
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That is a pen. She lives in Lincoln Park. Ooh la la. Well, that's where the apartment is. Because her roommate is a vampire. Her roommate's of a vampire, yeah. So he can have a very nice apartment in Lincoln Park. has generational wealth, but all the generations are just him.
00:01:59
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Are just him, exactly. um It's a fun, dumb book. Highly recommend so far. I'm about halfway through it.
Emotional Impact of Intense Roles
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I'm really, really enjoying it. It's exactly what I need when I have to spend the week being told.
00:02:11
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Let's see. Yesterday I was told. no. And i made the mistake mistake at rehearsal by not saying this is not my actual life. This is for my job playing pretend for medical students.
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um I was told all afternoon that my dad was dying. Oh dear. Yeah. And then today i was a domestic abuse victim. I had like a bruise.
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I think I still have bruise here. um And then I had like a gash on my leg, but I wasn't ready to admit it. And I just fell down the stairs and it was for nursing program.
Oscars Surprise and Media Escapism
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They had to sort of like,
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talk about it. And then I trained for my annual bipolar case that I do for the school. I still work at back in Chicago on Zoom. She's my favorite. I love that character.
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um But that one's also, you know, not that happy. And so those were my days. And then I went to the play in the evening where I was sad and Irish.
00:03:16
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That's a lot. got You got a big, you got some big days. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There was a lot of crying for work. Sure, yeah I mean, sometimes you just get dehydrated, you know? like Yeah, exactly.
00:03:28
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You just need to hydrate, you know, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. um But yeah, how's your week going? Oh, fine. I don't do anything. um i
00:03:41
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We've got ah we' got movie night tonight. Oh, oh hey, the Oscars happened. Yeah, the Oscars did happen. um Surprises, snubs, did you care about anything? I did not. I did not watch it.
00:03:52
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yeah. I was, yeah. I was at Strike, and everyone literally who cared about the Oscars was, like, Tommy and the Bit being, like, let's, like, wrap this up so that seems like striking the previous show and, like, building our, like, starting build our set.
00:04:08
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Oh, you're in wrap? Oh, oh, striking the previous. I see, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um and so everyone was like, okay, let's wrap this up. Let's wrap this up. We got the Oscars to get to. um So we did that.
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um But yeah, super surprised about to me, Moore's loss. sure um i guess i have seen a nora neither have i bummer um have you seen any of his movies have you seen um the florida project or tangerine or no um yeah it seems like a bummer uh it's not really my thing um but i think it is my thing on this podcast It's so funny that like, they do seem like movies that I would like because the stuff that i write is a lot like those yeah kind of things. um
00:04:56
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But I don't want to go see that. Yeah. I mean,
Political Views and Empathy Disconnect
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you don't need it. You already have that your brain, obviously. It's, I mean, partially, yeah, but, like, I used to, I used to watch everything, you know, I used to watch everything that was, like, supposed to be, like, a big movie or something that had Oscar buzz or something that was supposed to be, like, you know, an indie film that was, like, really powerful or stuff, and I watched everything. And then I kind of just got, like, I think at some point, like, maybe around, like,
00:05:24
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in my when i like turned 30 or something like i just became so like full of angst i don't know maybe it was sometime in november 2016 if i had to put like a specific time on it oh that's so weird what else was happening around that time where i can't remember but i just can't i can't handle I can't handle it that that often. I mean, i obviously I still do watch you know a lot of like emotional, we've talked about this before, but like, because this is a podcast about escapism and like, I know that a lot of people like turn their nose up at escapism, but it can, especially when things are terrible, yeah like they are right now for many people um yeah outside of of yeah the US s and
00:06:12
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And for people inside the, in, into in, in the U S at this point, like it's, it's really rough. And sometimes you, it's important to have escapism. Um, and, uh, there's time for like serious art as well, but like in my life, I don't have the time for really, it's not just serious art, but really depressing stuff.
00:06:33
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Um, yeah anymore. Um, I, I very rarely go to, to something like that now. Um, yeah Because everything is terrible. Yeah.
00:06:43
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And I think that's a huge, like, I think that's a huge cultural shift in millennials that sort of has happened from 20, between 2016 and like the pandemic. Um, that I really appreciate. And
Media Influence and Cultural Discourse
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I i am like,
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opening with or letting in with open arms of the fact that like I'm done with watching absorbing you know putting myself through terrible like things that will make me sad on purpose when I don't have to I'm going to fill my life with as much joy as I can and um And do things that i I like, you know, like, and watch things that make me happy.
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um Every now and again, maybe i get that sort of girly want to cry. if that's the case, you know, I'll just, I don't know. We love a girly cry. Yeah. We love a girly cry.
00:07:39
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um I'll watch like ah retirement community commercial. Oh my God. That's a perfect segue. Yeah. It is a perfect segue. I didn't mean for that to happen.
00:07:50
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I do my best not to watch commercials at all, but a commercial with a dog in it or something fan will make me cry for sure. It doesn't have to be a retirement community, but like, and it upsets me because I consider myself to be an anti-capitalist.
00:08:03
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I'm like, I don't want to be manipulated by these corporations shilling their slop, you know? I'm not going to buy their products, going to cry the Jesus out of the- Of course. Yeah.
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Yeah. the millions of dollars that went into that commercial. Like any Super Bowl. Tears. I'm not watching that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's if I want to cry. I'll watch Super Bowl commercial or. Did you watch the Super Bowl?
00:08:28
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No. God, no. I had rehearsal. I was acting. Right, right, right, right. Well, I know that your British husband likes American football, so. He does. He very much does. And he watched it. And I told him to tell me any time Taylor was on screen.
00:08:41
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um To which he told me once. And then things started going really bad for the Chiefs. And he stopped telling me. that's right. They were lost, didn't they? Yeah. Like, badly.
00:08:51
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Like, really badly. Do think she's going to break up with him now? I think that we're going to get an album out of this. God count me out. I am not listening to the Taylor Swift, the super bowl loser album.
00:09:06
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Talking about how disappointed he is and how he always has her back and she tries having his back, but like he doesn't want it. Cause he's like, I don't know. i don't know. I don't know. Probably a Trump supporter. And like, you know yeah.
00:09:21
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How he says things that like disagree with her political views. And you're like, what? Oh my God. I feel betrayed. That's a new song called Betrayed by Taylor Swift. It's called The Amount of Privilege that I Have to Be Able to Overlook Something Like This.
00:09:34
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mean, is it privilege? Can you do that? No, I don't think, I mean, well, yeah, if you're rich enough... If you're rich enough, I think you can't, you obviously do overlook this sort of thing. I mean, like this the kind of thing happens all the time where like some idiot conservative man had like meets a reasonable woman and then her politics just erode over time because she forgets about caring about other people.
00:09:59
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um Because that's. I hate that. I just like, I'm such an empathetic person that I don't understand how people can just be like that.
00:10:09
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Like how people can just be so mean and terrible. Like I don't understand. I don't either. I mean, it's the evergreen tweet. Like, I don't know how to explain to you that you should care
Uber Ride and Political Charm
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about other people. Yeah, exactly.
00:10:23
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And I mean, like, I try putting myself- people don't, it seems. Yeah. At my, like, lowest point, when I was in the depths of despair, I think around, like, 2016, 2017, I tried putting my brain in their, like, shoes.
00:10:36
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You know, try being like, okay, well then, like, why? Why? Just to try to understand, you know? And I just can't. I just, I can't understand. And I mean, there's some disconnect.
00:10:47
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you know? um I think, I think that the big difference between me and a lot of like, um, libs, you know, like I've got some, some well-meaning family members and stuff like that who I would consider, you know,
00:11:00
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middle of the road like liberals right um as opposed to so i would describe myself as like a leftist right um a liberal person like says thinks that like it's it's education right it's like these are good people who have been led astray and some of that is true because it's all psyops it's all marketing it's all like dehumanization right like we in the in order to to kill someone's empathy for other people, you have to make make the people who are being hurt not people, right? I mean, that's just fascism 101. It's genocide 101. Like, these people aren't human.
00:11:38
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Like immigrants, trans people, um whoever, like, you know, you know any out group, you have to dehumanize in order to get a large group of people to to to do horrible things them. Anyone who doesn't look like you, yeah.
00:11:53
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Exactly, yeah. But, um and so a lot of it is that, but a lot of it is also that these people are evil. um And it's taken me a while to get used to the idea of that. But I think, I genuinely believe that a lot of these people just have hate in their heart. They're selfish, yeah bad people who care about themselves and their families and nothing else.
00:12:18
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And they are willing to sacrifice everything because they have put everything into their economic growth. And that has
Privilege and Personal Politics
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become exacerbated by, and you know, podcasts, honestly, like i podcasts are probably like a huge, well, I mean, the other thing is like, there's, there's two generations um of of people in the world, you know, young adults and, and children right now, who have grown up with
00:12:51
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YouTube and TikTok and Instagram and Facebook and, and media that is not overseen or gatekept by anyone, which sounds good on its face and in, in, in a way, right? Because like anybody can make content and anybody can consume that content. And we are, we're doing that ourselves, right?
00:13:12
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Yeah. And everybody does, but like, And not to sound like an old woman like on her porch ranting about the kids and everything, but there is a problem in the world because anyone can have ah a giant platform to spew whatever falsehoods and and um you know hate-filled speech that they want and can can develop a huge following.
00:13:40
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And yeah then that following gets imported out of their their little... of their little circle, their little in-group and becomes mainstream. And when people like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and any number and, you know, any number of these people, I mean, like, uh, what's her name? Dasha from Red Scare. Like these people create more of themselves by mainstreaming their radical beliefs.
00:14:12
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And then those beliefs don't become radical anymore. They become mainstream and we split further into like extreme ideologies. yeah And it's it's a culture of fear. Like all these people are telling you, you have to be afraid of something.
00:14:27
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And in order to to gain power, they have to make you afraid. And that's yeah that works very, very well, unfortunately. Yeah. I think that like an excellent example of it was we...
00:14:43
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ah remember a few weekends ago, i don't know if I told you the story when we, why I told this story on the podcast, but i don't think I told you the Uber story. um mixed for great content um we were on our way to meet my cousin and her boyfriend for drinks right before a snowstorm and so we'd gotten an uber to go to Southington um to where we like met up with them and the uber driver that picked us up was like this like little grandpa guy that was like making dad jokes left and right um and yeah I mean
00:15:17
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would if myself or Charlie looked any different than we did he probably wouldn't have been acting this way but we get in the car and we're sitting and um he's just like making small talk and just like he's just like somebody's grandpa you know like that that was the best encapsulation and he was just trying to be so nice and so like accommodating and in the background is Fox News on Sirius XMH And I literally wanted to scream and jump out of the car.
00:15:48
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um yeah And so Charlie just kept talking because he could see how tense I was getting and how I was like grabbing the sides. And so he just kept trying, just talking nonsense to just try to like muffle out the amount. And as soon as we got out of the car, we both were like,
00:16:05
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disgusted but it was just sort of a such a disconnect from who that guy was yeah like yeah I just I was so confused how this guy could be making dad jokes and like trying to be my best friend well in the background they're talking about sending people to go Guantanamo Bay like I'm I was just like i don't
00:16:30
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Yeah, and it's another, it's a it's that state is the privilege of separating your personality from your politics, right? Because a lot of people don't have that ability, yeah whether it's, you know, race or or religion or, or um you know, queerness or whatever it is, like, but...
00:16:48
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these people do. And these people um consider politics to be something that is a small segment of the person that they are no matter how radical they are, right? Like no matter how deranged their politics may be, they consider it like a lot of my family members, you know,
Podcast Introduction: 'Go Get Your Girl'
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like, oh, we just don't talk about politics.
00:17:11
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I'm like, how do you not talk about politics? It's the most important thing in the world. but You know, but like, yeah, exactly. But like, they have the privilege to not be able to do that. And, you know, I, for example, do not have that ability.
00:17:26
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So I can't, Like I don't speak to those people. Like I can't have a relationship with someone who is, who who thinks of me as less than a person, despite how how nice they are to me. If they send me like, you know, a Christmas card every year or whatever.
00:17:42
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yeah Because they can hold those two things in there in their mind. Like, oh, she's one of the good ones. Or like, there's there's so much conflict that yeah like that they just can,
00:17:57
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can ignore. And I can't ignore that. um And I don't understand people who can. And it is. its just comes from It just comes from massive privilege. Yeah.
00:18:09
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Anyways, that was Emma and Katie get on their high horse and rant about politics. Corner. Had to be said. Had to be said.
00:18:21
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This movie, however. Yeah. Um... yeah um This movie has nothing to do with politics. We're 20 minutes in. What's the name of the podcast, Emma? That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Emma and Katie are in long...
00:18:41
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Ish slash long term relationships that they think are going great when they get dumped out of nowhere. And boy, oh boy, do they want their exes back. So they at work, they go cry in a stairwell.
00:18:53
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I've got notes about that. And and they meet their new best friend who also wants that. Oh, OK, OK. For a second ago, i for a second, I thought you would cast us as the the couple. ah That would have been so much better.
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ah but then
'I Want You Back' Overview
00:19:10
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also at the end, it doesn't work. Anyways. yeah ah But like, yeah. So they, one of them succeeds and one of them doesn't. And in the meantime, they discover that, hey, they are each other's airport oxygen mask person.
00:19:28
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Oh my God. Right, Thomas? I'm Emma. And I'm Katie, and that was the whole movie, pretty much. and That was the whole Yeah! The too long to read. Today we are discussing i Want You Back, directed but from 2022, directed by Jason Orley, who directed Big Time Adolescence, which I've never seen.
00:19:52
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and um And a lot of Pete Davidson stand up and some of the episodes of his sitcom. So there's that. track um And written by Isaac Aptaker and Elizabeth Berger, who are ah a writing team that wrote Love, Simon. And they've written a lot of TV. They wrote for This Is Us and a bunch of other stuff.
00:20:15
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Nice. Very, very nice. um Yeah, this movie was super charming. I'm not going to lie. i knew nothing about it. um I was super, super charmed.
00:20:27
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And... I mean, I'll start off with Charlie's Corner. He also thought it was very charming. He thought it was very lovely. He thought it was very funny.
00:20:38
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He then said, also, Emma, don't tell inappropriate stories from your youth that are relevant to this. Uh-oh. Then... Then he said something oh something very, very profound and beautiful about the film and why it worked, but it was too long, so I didn't write it down.
00:20:58
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Oh, okay. So we just have to take your word on that. Exactly. And so I told him, I was like, I'm not writing any of that down. And I turned to him and I went, honestly, Charlie, do you not know what your role is on this podcast?
00:21:11
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No one wants that from you. um Yeah, yeah. uh nobody wants that from you nobody wants to hear what princess bride hater has to say about right
00:21:25
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um oh i should have asked him the ozone to basketball scale but i didn't i forgot right right i forgot i always forget about ozone right um how can you forget about it most of my life honestly um Yeah, so this is Charlie Day and Jenny Slate, um who are very perfectly charming in this. i Honestly, I think Charlie Day should do more rom-coms. He's so adorable in this. Yeah, he's so lovely.
00:21:59
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um
Character Dynamics and Breakup Strategies
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they are did you know what How long did it take you to find out what city this was set in, Emma? How did you know that was one of my questions? Because that's always your whole deal. You have to know where it's at.
00:22:13
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It took me a few minutes, but I saw like something about how it was in Atlanta. And I was like, of course it's in fucking Atlanta. It's Hollywood of the South, baby. Yeah. They, during one of the, ah the bits where after the, after he breaks up with her and she's looking at like memories and stuff, it cuts to them at a Braves game.
00:22:32
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And then she's trying to hit the baseball with a hammer. Yeah. That's when I figured. And then they're, they're at, they're at Phipps Plaza later, which is like a big mall in Atlanta. I spent a lot of my childhood in Atlanta because that was the closest big city to where I grew up in Tennessee. And I would go to see concerts a lot in Atlanta.
00:22:50
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Yes. Oh, very nice. Yeah. high five eyes the tabernacle yeah they go to savannah at the end yeah yeah yeah and i was like oh okay because at first they i saw like the savannah riverboat cruises things and i was like wait a second i thought we were in atlanta you liars and then they talk about how they have to go out of town for the this yeah yeah so i was like yes okay great uh savannah is beautiful i don't know if you've ever been to savannah um i've always wanted to go it's amazing yeah yeah
00:23:21
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midnight in the garden of good and evil um which i really wanted to see the musical of when it was it played here before it went to broadway and uh we missed it yeah did it go to broadway yeah or maybe it's maybe it goes to broadway soon but it did it did out of town here in chicago yeah i know it was doing out of town at the goodman i i i don't think it's it's opened on broadway yet oh okay well it's it's coming yeah Yeah.
00:23:45
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Apparently it's really good. People really like it. Yeah. I might go see it. um s nice Um, yeah. So at the beginning, Jenny Slate, the adorable Jenny Slate. I love Jenny Slate so much. Have you seen obvious child?
00:24:02
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Oh my God. Yes. And that was my first. show Oh yeah. That was my first thought for my next pick, but I don't want to do two Jenny slates back to back. So going to hold it. No, no, we can't. Yeah. We, we, we, we gotta, we gotta slate that for later.
00:24:16
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Thanks. Did you ever hear, she was one of my favorite actors on SNL in the 2010s until she got fired. I did not know she was on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, she's on Saturday Night Live. i know her primarily from ah Mona Lisa Ralphio from Parks and Recreation. That was the first time I saw her, I think. Yeah.
00:24:33
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Nice. Yeah. What did she get fired for? Did she say fuck? Yeah, she said fuck on live. Really? Oh, yeah. I guess that'll get you fired. Yeah. That'll get you fired. um Yeah, so Jenny Slate, one of our two protagonists.
00:24:47
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I would say, you know, maybe we talk about in some of these, like, whose movie it is. Like, this movie feels pretty evenly split. Like, it's hard to say which one of these is, like, the main character. appreciated that.
00:24:58
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And so she is with ah Scott Eastwood, who my mom loves. What is he from? He's from Clint Eastwood's Ballsack. Oh, okay.
00:25:11
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oh Okay. Great. That was gross. That wasn't like me. I don't know why I said that. Hey, you know, now I have that vision. of mine Well, we're recording at night.
00:25:21
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So for the first time, we're not recording early in the morning. So you get late night Katie, I guess, today. Yeah, you get all the late night jokes. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Wow. um And Gina Rodriguez is Charlie Day's girlfriend.
00:25:36
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And they get both they both get broken up with pretty early on. they Both of these people have met new people. ah They are being broken up with for like for someone else.
00:25:48
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Yeah. And they both take it pretty hard. Yeah. Breakups are hard. And the reasons that they're breaking up with them, I mean, again, both of them met somebody, which like when you're in relationship for someone for six years and you meet somebody and leave somebody for them, I just...
00:26:07
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I feel like that's never going to work out, you know? Yeah. Oh, totally. And I mean, they especially built that around um ah Gina Rodriguez's character too, about how it was all about how she was having self-doubts about herself and how she wanted to be someone that she isn't.
00:26:24
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And that's what this breakup was all about and why she does that. So, which is like a thing that happens. People have, you know, sure midlife, quarter life, half life crises.
00:26:37
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Um, and half life, half life crises. That's a nuclear accident. I don't know about a little half life crises. Well, it's just sort of like, what even is midlife anymore?
00:26:52
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That's true. Yeah. Well, I mean, Caitlin was, I called Caitlin middle age, middle age the other day. no yeah what The other day it was, this is a few years ago. And um she goes, I'm not middle aged.
00:27:07
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And I'm like, do you want to live past 66 Caitlin? And she goes, Oh God, no. And I'm like, middle aged. We both are. Yeah. I will, if I can look fabulous.
00:27:18
Speaker
If I can look at my mom and have the energy of my mom. Yeah. When I'm her age, I'll be happy. I, um, I want to live as long as possible. Like I'm going to do, I'll take like the cyberpunk stuff, like load me up.
00:27:34
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Like i baby i I, don't believe anything happens after you die. So I have to capitalize on the time I have here. So yeah.
00:27:46
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on and and it should be said we are recording on ash wednesday if you say so
00:27:54
Speaker
i haven't been doing an ash wednesday since i was like 22 i didn't the only time i left i i didn't go i didn't work today and i didn't like i didn't go into like a big store or anything so i haven't seen a lot of people um So, I mean, like the the girl who cut my hair today was really the only like person I really interacted with today. Yeah.
00:28:15
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So I didn't see any ashes on anybody's forehead. So I did not know it was Ash Wednesday. That means yesterday was Mardi Gras. Yeah. Yesterday was Mardi Gras. But we didn't hear any complaints from Nick and Madison who live in New Orleans.
00:28:27
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Well, I mean, I saw stuff on on on her story last week, so I guess I assumed it was already over, but I guess it lasts a long time now. It lasts so long. It's like a whole thing. It's like a month leading up to it.
00:28:39
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not into that. No. No, thank you. I guess it's a bit like Lollapalooza, though. You know, like, you just don't go downtown and you don't have worry about it. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. You know?
00:28:51
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long as you don't have to deal with the people. Anyways, my first note is, so Jenny Slate it works as a receptionist for an orthodontist. And had a lot of things that I related with Jenny Slate in this movie about.
00:29:05
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Oh my God, me too. ah Right? She was the fucking best. yeah um I love everything that her character does. Well, number one, her character was named Emma.
00:29:17
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Love that. She was, yeah. have we We haven't had a Katie protagonist, right?
00:29:23
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I feel like we've had a Kate. Have we had a Kate? Maybe. I mean, it's a very common name. I think this is our first Emma though, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure this is our first Emma.
00:29:36
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Love to see it. Love to see Emma representation, baby. I think
Friendship and Romantic Misadventures
00:29:40
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Emma and Katie's as secondary characters in these movies, but not protagonists. But not the protagonist. yeah um And um so her name's Emma. She works as a receptionist, which Emma did for many years.
00:29:53
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um And ah there's a scene where where her and Charlie Day meet because they're both crying in the stairwell at work. And it just brought back a lot of memories yeah of crying in corporate office building stairwells.
00:30:09
Speaker
um boy and your mascara not being waterproof even though it says it is yep yep yeah boy oh boy yeah that was super real super I am I was more of a walk-in situation for me like when I was waiting tables I would cry in the walk-in um yeah and uh so it's it's a very different kind of like the corporate world is crying in the stairwell and the food service world is crying in the walk-in yeah Yeah, yeah. um But at least in the walk-in, like, it's cold, so you don't get as, like, red, you know?
00:30:43
Speaker
It's true, yeah. it's it It naturally helps the puffiness. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. yeah so So, yeah. And she's like, I'm fine. And he's got, yeah, you got mascara all over your face. And she's like, yo you got toilet paper stuck to your chin.
00:30:55
Speaker
Yeah, it's stuck to your chin. They're so sweet and so wonderful. And then they go on this, like, fun little drinking spree of friendships. um and a private uh drunken karaoke yeah i don't think it was private really it was a private room um it made me think katie why have we not done that i i don't know well you are a good singer and i am not as part of it so that doesn't matter okay Doesn't matter.
00:31:26
Speaker
You get enough drinks. You also live in Connecticut and I live in Chicago, but we can make it happen. Yeah. We're going to make it happen. Next time I'm in town. Next time you're in town. Uh, private karaoke, baby.
00:31:36
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. um the first thing I wrote down is you never remember to take your iron pills. And then I wrote me.
00:31:46
Speaker
Yeah. Because Jenny's Slate's, um, ex-boyfriend is like, he's a super big fitness guy. and he's like yeah yeah and she's like enjoying he took her out to brunch and they're having this really nice brunch and she's enjoying her pancakes and he's like just please please eat some of my steak you there's no protein in that there's no protein he um he is taking care of her because she doesn't take care of herself and um that is kind of the base, a lot of the basis of their relationship is that he, like, she is lost and kind of adrift and he is someone who takes care of people. um He's a really good person.
00:32:27
Speaker
yeah um He's a real sweetheart and a nice guy and a, and like a good person. And the reason that he breaks up with her is because like, she doesn't, she doesn't want anything from life. And like, yeah she, he's like, you know, you were bored when you were with me and you don't like,
00:32:44
Speaker
The reason he met somebody else is because he met somebody who was, you know, more compatible ah exactly with him than she was. And she she can't accept that at first.
00:32:54
Speaker
Yeah. um Charlie Day and Gina Rodriguez, it's more about, she finds, she thinks that he's complacent and he is complacent, but she has this like kind of toxic restlessness where- she believes that she is not as successful as she could be.
00:33:13
Speaker
What she says is, my sense memory professor said I could be the next Kate Winslet. And he goes, you still can be. And she goes, not with you. ah Rough. um And she, so yeah, like, so Scotty Swit's character, like Ginny Slate's ex is like, I think a good person. And I think Gino Rodriguez is a bad person.
00:33:34
Speaker
I mean she is but I don't think that she is I like that they gave her yeah they they gave her some growth and they gave her some dimension which I always appreciate with like not being just a like 2d like this is a bad person we should hate this person because that's what the for sure for sure yeah um but it's also like they're not that we're we're not characterizing the two exes as like the same kind of thing you know what and i mean like they have there's a big there's a big gulf between their two characters well and like and she does have growth yes yeah jenny slate's relationship was only six months versus charlie days was six years so correct yes there's that sort disconnect as well yeah
00:34:19
Speaker
um Jenny Slate ah doesn't have her life together. And I think that, that I mean, all like all of these like chaotic bisexuals in these movies um just resonate with me so much.
00:34:33
Speaker
They just strike a chord, right? It's like, just like me. um She... she lived like, i mean, and what's honestly, what's become a rom-com trope. I mean, this is the second movie in like a month where the character like dropped out of school to take care of her sick dad who Yeah.
00:34:52
Speaker
And it's been in other movies as well. It's like their life is, you know, on hold. Right. Like, and then, so she's kind of in this state of arrested development and they say she's 32 when she's more like 42. Um, um,
00:35:05
Speaker
ah And Charlie Day is like 47. Yeah. And we're supposed to believe that he's in his thirty s It doesn't say how old he is. He says that he's too old, but they never actually say how old he is.
00:35:17
Speaker
Whereas she says like 29 is the new 16. And he goes, you're 32. yeah And like, really, you're like, she's 40. She's 41. But you know, she's got great skin.
00:35:32
Speaker
She does. Yeah, she looks great. I'm just i'm just saying that, like, why why do we always have to play, like, 10 years younger in yeah in wi in order to be in order to be considered a romantic, like, to be romantically available in a movie?
00:35:49
Speaker
Like, 35 is the absolute oldest you can possibly be, you know? It's, like, 25 to 35, or you're going the Nancy Meyers route, 65 to 85. Yeah, for Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could be Diane Keaton or Julia Roberts or whatever. Or Meryl Streep.
00:36:05
Speaker
Yeah. Updating your kitchen. Yeah. And you fall in love with George Clooney or Chex Notes. Jack Nicholson?
00:36:18
Speaker
We will eventually have to do one of those movies. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, that's Helen Hunt who falls in love with Jack Nicholson. So yeah we have to make sure that she's like 30 years younger than him. That's the requirement. Oh yeah. That's, you know, we can't have her be too old.
00:36:32
Speaker
Jeez. Yeah, exactly. We want people to go to this movie. Am I right? I mean, yeah Like what is the, what's the oldest like rom, like people in a rom-com we can think of. It's gotta to be,
00:36:44
Speaker
ah who is, wait, who's in Something's Gotta Give? Oh, it's Alex. No? It's Alec Baldwin, yeah. It's Meryl Streep and Alec Baldwin. Yeah. No, no, that's It's Complicated.
00:36:57
Speaker
Something's Gotta Give is is Diane Keaton and
00:37:04
Speaker
shit. Oh, well. um It's probably one of those Nancy Meyers movies that I can think of. I mean, there's probably like an older one, but something's... Or Grumpy Old Man.
00:37:17
Speaker
it is Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson is in both of them. Yeah. That's right. Okay. You know? um Yeah, Jack Nicholson is in What Women Want with Helen Hunt, which is problem of a movie.
00:37:30
Speaker
Yeah. and Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson has got to give. So they are much closer in age. Huh. But he's still older than her. I mean, Diane Keaton, let's see, born in 1946. Jack Nicholson, nine older than Yeah.
00:37:51
Speaker
ah which means she was almost 60. So actually not even as old as we thought. Yeah. up Okay. Hey, you know, it's just like, you can't have, I feel like the whole point is, is that Hollywood thinks that they can't make a movie and be successful with their romantic leads being in their forties.
00:38:14
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Or at least play. I mean, this movie, both these people were in their forties when they filmed it but
Wedding Climax and Resolution
00:38:20
Speaker
they're, pretending like they're 10 years younger exactly exactly yeah i just i don't i think that hopefully that'll change um but who knows who fucking knows anymore i don't know hollywood it'll change with our screenplay yeah because why the i we by that we finish it by the time we make it yeah we'll be in our um um like yeah
00:38:47
Speaker
These characters who are roommates and work at a bakery
00:38:56
Speaker
and go on Tinder are in their 40s. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. well yeah Well, you can play the character and i'll cast somebody but we'll cast somebody else as the as the character I was going to play.
00:39:10
Speaker
Oh, Thomas. um Yeah, she but like, yeah, so Arrested Development, she is living in the same place she lived in when she was in college. She keeps having roommates, the roommates that she has right now are a couple.
00:39:23
Speaker
Yes. Who is well, they're they're in law school, I think that she said, right? No, she says they're pre law, which means they're practically lawyers. law, they're undergrads. Yeah, yeah. they're under It's Dylan Galula and some boy. I don't know who the other guy yeah the guy was. who's He's in like all of those shows. like All of those like teen drama shows. I've seen him before. probably.
00:39:42
Speaker
Probably. But Dylan Galula, you would recognize her. She's Xanthippe from Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Yeah, Unbreakable. She's great. So yeah, so she's she's she's having a hard time.
00:39:56
Speaker
um There's a lot of bits where she's like... there was she ah is eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch and and sobbing and and watching television. And it just kind of like cuts to them in the background and they're like, happy anniversary.
00:40:08
Speaker
Yeah. Or they're like, hey, so I don't know if you remember, but we're having a study group on Saturday. So if you could like, I don't know, not be around. And she's like, not be at the house that I pay rent at.
00:40:21
Speaker
No way, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um and There's also the whole bit where they're having this like, like serious conversation and the two of them are fucking in the other room really loud. And like, like that is the most college shit in the world. Like I cannot tell you.
00:40:41
Speaker
Right. Goodness. Can't imagine having to deal with that shit in my thirties. Yeah. No, thank you. um his And his job is awful. He works for a horrible like conglomerate that makes nursing homes.
00:40:57
Speaker
Yeah. Where one of the carrot women says, these people are on death's door and we need to find, um we're spending way too much feeding them. And she has this glittery Starbucks cup in front of her. Yes. Very funny.
00:41:08
Speaker
And they're talking about how they can do, like, instead of chicken, ah new product's called Like Chicken. It's not quite almost and almost chicken. Almost Chicken or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:19
Speaker
Hint of chicken. That's what it is. It's hint of chicken. of chicken. Yeah. Yeah. And no ice. So they go, how would their drink, how would their drinks be cold? Like they wouldn't. They wouldn't. they get They're like, we should get rid of ice.
00:41:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. um And they, so they decided to become sadness sisters. Yeah. Where he's like, if you want to call your ex, you should call me instead. And if I want to call my ex, I'll call you instead. And they but become friends.
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um And then they they slowly decide... to uh they come up with a plan to help each other the devil's mischief enters their hearts exactly they're like what if what if what if you go and um seduce this new guy oh yeah because they both they open each other's instagrams to see their partner's new like posts yes and then they both spiral yeah so um
00:42:22
Speaker
Jenny Slate's ex, Scott Eastwood, is dating um this woman who is owns a bakery, because of course she does. The the actress's name is Clark Baco, or Baco, I'm not sure.
00:42:41
Speaker
um And I don't know who she, apparently she was on Letterkenny, which is a thing that people have told me to watch, but I haven't done that. a Canadian comedy, yeah. Yeah, it's a Canadian sitcom. I tried watching it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:52
Speaker
And Gina Rodriguez is dating Manny Jacinto. Yes. The great Manny Jacinto. Manny Jacinto. Love him. He's incredible in this movie. yeah So funny. Absolutely incredible.
00:43:05
Speaker
I believe that we even said at one point we made one of our characters basically Manny Jacinto in our screenplay.
00:43:14
Speaker
Really? you not remember when we were like characterizing one of the guys? You were like, yeah, like Manny Jacinto. Like it's going be Manny Jacinto. Like if we could get like a celebrity, it would be Manny Jacinto. That's our name star.
00:43:26
Speaker
Oh, oh, as, as my, as my character's boyfriend. Is that who we're talking Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. um But yeah. The Sweetheart. We love to see it. We love him.
00:43:37
Speaker
Yeah. um And he's playing the biggest doofus theater teacher in this movie. He's playing a middle school theater teacher who thinks he's like fucking
00:43:52
Speaker
Ivo Von Hova. There we go. had to think of a theater director. You could do it. Uta Hagen.
00:44:00
Speaker
Did she direct? No. Primarily an actress. Yeah. She's featured in this film. she Well, I guess. Yeah. yeah Yeah. um He is directing a seventh grade production of Little Shop of Horrors, which is and very funny.
00:44:15
Speaker
It's so fucking good. People who aren't familiar with Little Shop of Horrors, the play, as opposed to the movie in the play, everyone dies at the end. Yes. And it's very gory.
00:44:26
Speaker
Yes, it is. Yes. um Which brings me to the very first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts. um So we do get to see shots of his production of Little Shop of Horrors.
00:44:38
Speaker
See a lot of it, actually. Yeah. Yeah. ah One of them is the ending where Audrey gets eaten by, spoilers for Little Shop of Horrors, by Audrey too. um And is like covered in blood and dying.
00:44:51
Speaker
um and Which is not quite how the play actually ends, actually, because he dies too in the play. Yeah. Yeah. They sort skipped a lot of things. They also like Jenny Slate. I think they it down maybe for middle school. Yeah.
00:45:04
Speaker
That makes sense. But they didn't cut out all the like, I mean, they still had the dentist, which I thought was great. That's true. That's true. Yeah. Cause you see it in the background, them rehearsing the dentist scene, which is fucking love little shop.
00:45:17
Speaker
Um, But you see, at one point, there is, but as Audrey is dying and blood is splurting, there's a shocked woman in the audience.
00:45:28
Speaker
And yeah fun fact for you, the shocked woman in the play's audience is the actual mother of the girl who played Audrey on stage. Oh, wait. Yeah.
00:45:41
Speaker
Who played on it? but Like the little girl. In the movie. Oh, okay. The little girl's mom is a featured extra. I thought she meant like Ellen Green's mom. I'm like, she'd have to be very old.
00:45:54
Speaker
No, no, no. I worded that weird. um that That little girl's mom got to be a featured extra. And I know that's a very fun fact. It's so fun. To fair, the IMDb trivia for this is like very small.
00:46:10
Speaker
um The IMDb trivia for all movies is pretty, pretty bad. ah I mean, the next one is ah Scott Eastwood and Charlie Day previously starred alongside each other in Pacific Rim Uprising.
00:46:22
Speaker
Who gives a shit, man? Like, that's the thing. Like, so much of IMDb is these people were in a movie together. Like, that's not a fun fact. That's not, that's not the trivia. That is three of the five.
00:46:34
Speaker
Three of the five. Yeah. Fun facts. I hate that. That's not fun. Yeah. Yes, so ah they have this conversation where she's like, I will seduce Manny Jacinto and get Gina Rodriguez to remember that she loves you. And he's like, great, and then I'll seduce the bake shop lady. And she's like, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no that's not. He's like, what? I can't seduce.
00:47:00
Speaker
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. So his plan is to, his plan their plan is for him to befriend Scott Eastwood uh and um and can try to convince him that he needs to go back to jenny slate which again is a is a cute little little twist so that so we're not going back and forth to these two like kind of samey plots back and forth they do kind of make these things very different in their approaches and very different in their characterizations because mean he really gets to like uh
00:47:35
Speaker
Scott Eastwood and they become actual friends. they become really good friends. I mean, it doesn't work out very well because, you know, what they're doing is bad. Yeah. But the middle part's fun.
00:47:46
Speaker
Caitlin's corner on this movie is that all these people are bad. They don't deserve happiness. um Why do I care about these straight people's problems? That was what Caitlin said.
00:47:57
Speaker
And that was Caitlin's corner. Caitlin's corner. And said, that's why I don't do this podcast with you, Caitlin. Yeah. Because 90% Caitlin's corners on these are, fuck these people. i hate this.
00:48:15
Speaker
But just watch the fun little middle bit. Speaking of the fun little fun little scene in the very middle of the movie.
00:48:27
Speaker
And I know this because I watched half one night after rehearsal and then I watched the other half. Nice. Yeah. Um, where Charlie Day and Clint Eastwood's sperm go to the club.
00:48:44
Speaker
Oh yeah. They go, they go to a club for real. It looks terrible. Yeah. It looks awful. And it looks like the worst. Um, but they go and they have like this great time. And then he's like, because, um, what's Eastwood's son's name?
00:49:02
Speaker
um Scott Eastwood is the actor's name. Yeah, I don't remember. Noah, I think. noah is the name's yeah noah um Noah is going to be Charlie Day's wingman because they like go to the pie shop and they have this really nice time eating this like healthy quiche that his new girlfriend made.
00:49:20
Speaker
And um and it's it He gets Charlie Day to open up about how he was just like broken up with. And he's like, well, you know, let's go to this club and we'll be I'll be your wingman. And they invite his girlfriend she's like, hell no, I'm not going to that.
00:49:35
Speaker
You guys have fun. Um, so they go out, they have a great time. He's being Charlie Day's wingman. He's giving him shots as like introducing him to like other women. And they all like walk away.
00:49:46
Speaker
And then finally, like, there's these girls that um are are kind of into it. And they're like, we're going to, this place is boring. Let's go. Let's go back to your place. um And they're like, and Charlie Day automatically thinks like, okay, they're trying to like leave and get out of this.
00:50:03
Speaker
And he goes, okay, well, good night. And they're like, do you not want to come? Yeah. Yeah. um So they go back. You have a good night. and they're like, no, you're invited. Yeah. Yes. It's just like, oh, oh, okay.
00:50:14
Speaker
So they go back to the these girls' place to which then Pete Davidson shows up. It was a jump scare. It was a Pete Davidson jump scare. It was jump scare.
00:50:27
Speaker
This is the second time Pete Davidson has jump scared us in one of these movies. Right? It's great. It's great. I love Pete Davidson. um And he shows up as one of the girls' drug dealer ex-boyfriends um and gives them all not molly right he gives them crack jace no no it's molly it's molly oh okay i thought at one point he said crack oh that's what was okay was like i thought i thought he said no no it's crack oh that's what it was okay i was like i thought thought he said no no no it's
00:51:01
Speaker
B. Davidson's pretty cute in this because like it's this it's a it's a really kind of bizarre character where he's like yeah yeah so you're hanging out with Rachel or whatever and like yeah i used to date her you know it's cool now have fun she's the yeah love of my life yeah she's the love my life but he's like so affable at the same time it's it's it's pretty cute yeah it's a good little cameo It's very, very cute. And then and I have to assume that he and the director are are best friends because he's been in everything the guys directed.
00:51:28
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. He was probably like, Hey, do you want to come down to Atlanta for a day and do this for me? Um, we can hang out. Um, and, and then at one point they're all rolling and tripping on drugs.
00:51:44
Speaker
And, um, Yep. You could have just stopped. You could have said they're all rolling. You sounded totally natural. Like it sounded like normal. And then you said they're tripping on drugs immediately. i got track As I was saying it, I was like, i'm not, I sound like I know too much.
00:52:02
Speaker
So now I have you done Molly. no um Okay, do not we not want to talk about it on the podcast? because youre that was hard of That's part of the genre of topics that because Emma's mom listens to this podcast, I cannot disclose.
00:52:20
Speaker
I cannot disclose. There's certain stories that I cannot tell on this podcast that have to do with this movie that Charlie immediately turned to me and went, no, don't do it. Don't do it, Emma.
00:52:33
Speaker
Um, and i was like, okay, you're right. My mom doesn't need to hear those stories. Yeah. Yeah. No, she doesn't. i mean, you could just tell her not to listen to this episode though.
00:52:45
Speaker
She'll still do it. Oh yeah. Okay. She loves us too much. She's always asking how you are. and ah She talks to us in the car as she's listening to it.
00:52:58
Speaker
She talks to us. Yeah. She like corrects us, but you know, it's still corrects us. We are always 100% right. um no fact checking required.
00:53:10
Speaker
if we say it on this podcast, it's 100% true. Yeah. Um, allegedly yeah um already forgotten your mom's name. Crap. I want to say Debbie, but no, no. Debbie's her, her sister. Cause they all have D names.
00:53:29
Speaker
Right. Right. or Well, Debbie is Caitlin's mom's name. Yeah. Oh, nice. My mom is one of six and they all, all their names start with D. That's right. We've, we've all been over this. That's correct. Yeah. um Hi Donna.
00:53:40
Speaker
That's where i'm going to cut it back in. Yeah. Cut out the part where remember her name and and where you did drugs. I'm going to say, yeah. Hi Donna. Thanks for listening.
00:53:53
Speaker
um Yeah, so they're all rolling and ah having a great time. And then Pete Davidson gets the great idea that he's going to jump from the top of that like the second floor balcony into the hot tub.
00:54:09
Speaker
Which Charlie Day is like, you sure you don't want to do the pool? Yes. He's tub jumping. The pool's too far. It's a tub jump. Yeah, it's a tub jump. And he's like, that just seems way too shallow, to which I agree, Charlie Day. That seems way too shallow.
00:54:20
Speaker
It doesn't seem safe, yeah. No, it's not safe. um So he does it, and then the girl who's into Charlie Day, that's Pete Davidson's ex, does it. And then they try to get Charlie Day to do it, and he's like, I don't know. This doesn't seem that great.
00:54:35
Speaker
I don't think I can do this. And as he's like trying to decide whether or not to do it, Pete Davidson is off the side talking to this girl his ex um every time she's like you can do it you can do it in between like these little chants for him he goes i love you so much i want you back i love you i'm sorry messed up i love you so much it's so yes good i won't steal from you anymore yes don't want to talk about this right now no talk about it while he's up there he goes maybe i should jump to the pool he goes no man that's what happened to rudy and now he's in a wheelchair jump
00:55:07
Speaker
jump, jump, jump. um But he does it. And he does it. Yeah. Takes a leap of faith on himself and he's fine. Which is something that that Gina Rodriguez had told him that like he, they do the same thing all the time and he doesn't have any ambition. And, and she, and so he's kind of like been feeling that and that's what he's trying to experience.
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah. Exactly. And he survives and he feels liberated. And as he's getting out, he's like, thank you so much. Oh my God. I feel like I can go back and like get back with my ex-girlfriend now. And she's like, that's great.
00:55:41
Speaker
ah She's putting on a hoodie and zips it up. And that's when we realize... These bitches been lying the entire time. They are 17 years old.
00:55:53
Speaker
And he starts screaming, Noah, they're children. They're children. They're children. They're children. And then their dad comes home, which is- Ben McKenzie. It's Ben McKenzie!
00:56:06
Speaker
Ben McKenzie because he was in Atlanta filming Gotham I suppose I mean I guess I guess I mean I fucking love him for those of you who don't know one of the things that um Emma and Katie have bonded over is their mutual love and appreciation for the 2000s teen drama The O.C.
00:56:27
Speaker
ah The Orange County as I like to call it yeah it changed my life I love it Yeah. Anytime I want to cry, I'll watch it. I discovered a lot of the the bands that i I got into in in my in my early my late teens, early 20s through the OC.
00:56:47
Speaker
I discovered a lot of fashion, a lot of things. Oh, and yeah. yeah Not to mention my love for curly haired Jewish boys. yeah Yes. Yes.
00:56:59
Speaker
She says that she's married to a blonde British man.
00:57:05
Speaker
um uh i also used to convince my friends i don't know if you did this uh whenever i would sneak out of the house uh to for us to drive down to galveston and pretend like we were in california
00:57:20
Speaker
Because Galveston's on the coast of Texas? Yeah, because it's on Galveston, Texas. We would drive the, like, hour and a half to Galveston in the middle of the night and then just, like, stand on the on the shore and, like, me. California! Yeah!
00:57:33
Speaker
California!
00:57:39
Speaker
um the gc the galveston coast yeah yeah the gc welcome to the gc bitch it's the show but not yeah uh yeah so he's he's doing that and meanwhile jenny slate just walks into a middle school um without any security or anything which is the first thing i'm proving No rules. In a rom-com, you can just walk into a school.
00:58:05
Speaker
Yep. And she's like, I'm here to volunteer for the play, Manny Jacinto. And he's like, oh, great. Like, yeah, okay. Which one of these kids is yours? Yeah, she's like, none of them.
00:58:18
Speaker
Um, but she starts to bond with this little, this little kid. And, um, like they start having these conversations. It's very cute. And, uh, and she starts to realize that like, she's good at talking to children.
00:58:30
Speaker
Um, and he's like, uh, you know, my dad is having an affair. um And she's like talking him through it. She's like, you know, you adults are people and we get we make mistakes and you have to like, um he's like, sometimes i just want to tell him like, go do blowjobs on Bruce, which is something I wrote down. Go do blowjobs on Bruce.
00:58:49
Speaker
She's like, a blowjob is not something that you do. Yeah. And she was like, are all the kids making fun of you because your dad's gay? And he goes, no, my dad's have always been gay. Yeah. He's cheating on my other dad. Yeah. That's sweet.
00:59:02
Speaker
That's very sweet. I love it. Um, The, ah yeah. so um So she's getting involved in that and like flirting with Manny Jacinto. And Gina Rodriguez is very jealous and territorial and is yeah like very put off by that. So she's like, okay, so there's where I'm going to get in here.
00:59:23
Speaker
And so she suggests a threesome. Oh, well, first she has to fill it as Audrey because the Audrey got pink eye. Yeah, she's looking On dress rehearsal, they need somebody to stand in but for the for the music cues and for the light cues and everything, which is like, yeah, real.
00:59:39
Speaker
So she but she doesn't need to be in costume, for example. but She doesn't need to in costume or a wig. Yeah, and she doesn't need to sing the song, to be fair. I mean, maybe I guess she needs to sing the beginning and end of the song, but whatever. Yeah.
00:59:50
Speaker
And so she performs Suddenly Seymour with this adorable little boy. It's very cute. So heartwarming. Give that kid jobs.
01:00:01
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Give that Let that kid rule Broadway. Like, I don't know who that kid is. That's the thing. Like, he's probably a Broadway kid. Yeah. He's probably Gavrosh or something. Yeah. He's an asshole.
01:00:17
Speaker
Yeah, like Matt and Gatorazzo, that little prick. um That was a joke. From what I understand, Matt and Gatorazzo is a sweetheart. Yes. Unlike... um some other kids on that show that I could name.
01:00:30
Speaker
Yes. Moving on. That was a joke I'll love to get in Matarazzo. um leaving Leaving all that in. Yes.
01:00:41
Speaker
So she proposes a threesome to them, which Manny Jacinto is like, i've I've done lots of threesomes, of course, because I'm this guy. Like, he's the fucking worst. He's so funny. Yeah, he's like, when I was in Florence, Italia. In France, yeah. In Italia. Yeah.
01:01:00
Speaker
yeah Yeah. She's like, can you not? Yeah, it's very silly. Yeah. um He has an Equus poster hanging over his bed, which like, hey, we've talked about Equus on this podcast before. I love Equus. I think Equus is one of the great plays of the British theater.
01:01:16
Speaker
But like, over your bed, man, that's weird. That's a weird thing to do. Also, as if you're like me and didn't realize, there's no sex in Equus. He doesn't fuck a horse.
01:01:29
Speaker
I mean, there is sex in Equus, but it's between two human beings. Yes. It's between a man and a woman, not between any not with the horse. i always thought it was with Daniel Radcliffe and the horse. He rides the horse naked, so which is a which is a shirtless man wearing a mask in the play. So I can see where you would get that.
01:01:50
Speaker
But no, they don't he doesn't actually have sex with the horse. They have sex in front of the horses and because the horses see them, he blinds them with a stake. That's what happens in an iron spike.
01:02:03
Speaker
That's what happens in that play. Spoiler for Equus. It's about religion. It's very, very good. It's a great play. Yeah. But no sex with horses. Peter Schaffer, the guy who wrote Amadeus.
01:02:15
Speaker
um No sex with horses. That was Katie's playwright corner. Katie's playwright corner. Thanks. You're welcome. So of course, Gina Rodriguez is trying to be cool because like the whole reason she broke up with Charlie Day is because she wants to be more adventurous, right? And she's like, yeah, I can have a threesome, but she is yeah way too anxious and and jealous to be able to have a threesome.
01:02:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's too controlling. And um yeah Charlie day totally screws up his side of the of the thing because because Noah really loves her.
01:02:48
Speaker
and like they they escape from these they escape from this house with the children. Ben McKenzie. And to be fair, like they don't do anything with these girls. Like they only dance with the girls, um which is a vital ah part of this movie. Like, thank God.
01:03:03
Speaker
Yes. No sex. And yeah, well, they don't even kiss. Like they they dancing is the only like physical contact they have with these girls. yeah um They escape from there and get into Ubers. And he's like, this really made me believe realize realize that I love Millie, whatever her name is. something like that. um the the baby He's like, no no, no, no, no. Maybe you should go back to your old girlfriend. But like,
01:03:29
Speaker
that's not what's right for him. You know? Yeah, exactly. And like Charlie Day just keeps trying to force it, but it's just like, it's not happening. And so in his last ditch effort, Charlie Day breaks into this girl's house.
01:03:41
Speaker
Oh my God. It's such a bad idea. he like gets a condom wrapper that he's going to plant in their bed or something. And he hides. And first of all, we're like, Caitlin and I are watching. We're like, that basket's not, that basket's not big enough for Charlie Day, but I forget that Charlie Day is a tiny person.
01:03:55
Speaker
I need, but like, it's so funny because he like opens the um closet to get in there, but it's like a too shallow. It's like an Ikea closet. And then he tries to go into the bed, but there's no under the bed. And so then he has to Yes.
01:04:10
Speaker
And as, as he's doing all this, he's going, this is a bad idea. Who am I? I'm a terrible person. Yeah. This is a crime. This is a crime. This is a crime. And so he has to hide in their, their laundry hat and hamper, which is a um,
01:04:24
Speaker
a ah trunk a big like a big rectangular basket at the foot of their bed yeah and then yeah so he's there in the basket when they propose when he proposes she says yes they have sex three times three times And then they go take a shower together.
01:04:40
Speaker
And when Scott Eastwood isn't looking, he opens the basket like and it's right at hog level. yeah You can see Charlie Day's face.
01:04:51
Speaker
It is perfect comedy moment. like Charlie Day's face is incredible in that split second. um And then he just very slowly gets out of the basket and walks away. It's great.
01:05:06
Speaker
It's comedy gold. It's very cringy, but also comedy gold. um So he's getting engaged. And so then Charlie Day has to, like, break the news to Emma that he it didn't work out. yeah And Emma's, like, super excited because hers worked. And she was like, you know... um Gina Rodriguez is going to get back with you. She realized that she made a huge mistake and that she misses you.
01:05:29
Speaker
She doesn't even get to tell him all that because he's like, let me tell you, I've got bad news. It didn't work. Like he proposed and she said yes. And they're getting married. And she's like, you know, I think that's okay. Like she's come to terms with it.
01:05:41
Speaker
Um, I think that she realizes she likes him at this point, you know? Yeah. um But she doesn't say any of that. Immediately, that his phone rings. It's Anne, which is Gina Rodriguez's character.
01:05:53
Speaker
And she's like, i'm going to come over. I want to talk to you. And he's like, thank you so much, Emma. Like, it's incredible. I'm so sorry it didn't work out. she's like, it's okay. And, like, that is the end of the second act of this movie. And it's it leaves us in an interesting place.
01:06:08
Speaker
Because at this point, at least, they're not mad at each other. Like, they've they've done this like wrong thing together sure, but they're not really at odds until the next day when he's like, yeah, we got back together. They're at work again. He's like, we got back together and like, I'm so sorry. I couldn't do the same for you. And she's like, no, it's okay. I understand. But like, hey, do you want to do this thing? And he's like, we we can't see each other. Like, I don't want to like sneak around behind Anne's back. We can't be friends because she knows you, you know?
01:06:42
Speaker
Yeah. um And she's like, I guess we didn't think that through. through Yeah. Which is like so heartbreaking. And it obviously is just like so crushing to her um because she, you can see that she's like started to really like Charlie Day, but also they've built this beautiful friendship and they've been there for each other.
01:07:00
Speaker
And they've yeah like been each other's backs and it was just sort of like, um, they, yeah, it's just, it's, it's heartbreaking. Um, and so then you see like a bunch of montages of Charlie Day on like and double dates with Noah and,
01:07:15
Speaker
his fiance yeah yeah because they're they're friends and he can still have that friendship and you see um uh jenny slate get trying starting to get her life together and like deciding to move out of the apartment and you know deciding to sort of like get unstuck from her life um and uh oh and it should be said throughout this entire thing we haven't even mentioned this yet that jenny one of the first conversations that they have jenny slate makes this sort of like comparison of like your person forever is the person who puts your oxygen and mask on for you and um which is something you're not supposed to do i mean the thing is like exactly
01:08:05
Speaker
like you're supposed to put it on for your on yourself before you put it on someone else because you can't help another person unless you're alive you know that's the whole point of that but she's like i always thought like there'd be someone i would put the oxygen mask on first yeah because i love them so much i want them to yeah be alive and she tells him that earlier like she's like when when she is explaining to him that that he can't seduce this uh this girl, he he's like, you're like a slow burn, you know, like it takes a while to, to you're someone I could see someone falling in love with in like a year or like, you know, or like two years or like maybe five years.
01:08:39
Speaker
Yeah. And we just played as a joke. And then, um and but then, you know, it comes up later. um yeah The other thing we should mention that we didn't is that like, he has like this idea of like he, his parents weren't around. He was raised a lot by his grandparents. He has a light, a connection with,
01:08:57
Speaker
older people he has like a very save the cat moment with this older woman when they're out at the mall and um he's so he's so sweet to her it's very charming and um and he's like yeah I love old people and I wanted to do that and I got my master's degree in um you know uh public health public health and um You know, that that was, and I immediately took the first job I got, which is for this awful conglomerate that tortures these old people in these nursing homes. And I feel bad about it, but I haven't done any movement on it.
01:09:27
Speaker
And once he gets back together with Anne, like, you know And she supports him. like Jenny Slate supports him immediately and is like, you know that's a great idea and you should follow your dream. And when he talks to Anne about it, once they get back together, and she's like, you don't have to do that for me. And he's like, it's not about you.
01:09:42
Speaker
like Yeah, exactly. she like no this is what She can't see past that. like She's still very selfish. um yeah I think is one of the primary like parts of of her character.
01:09:52
Speaker
Yeah. And so we fast forward a bit and then there's a wedding invitation and she runs into Manny Jacinto eating charcuterie. And he, she tells him about the invitation and and he tells her, you should go to the wedding and why don't you bring me? And I'm like, oh, that's a bad idea.
01:10:09
Speaker
He's like, I'm a great wedding day. It's a very sweet, charming scene because like he, it's the most human he is in the movie. Yeah, exactly. Cause he like starts to be like his sort of like, hoity-toity, like, nonsense, artsy-fartsy person, like, telling her about the chemicals of why certain charcuterie things work together, or, like, blah, blah, blah. And she goes, can you just, like, chill?
01:10:33
Speaker
Can you just, like, relax? There's one thing women It's when men explain things to us. Exactly. We love that. So they decide to go to this wedding together, which is in Savannah, on riverboat.
01:10:46
Speaker
Yes. Where they will be trapped on a boat together. ah Exactly. This does not seem like writing device for drama. Yes.
01:10:59
Speaker
um And so there we see the wedding that they get there. And of course, everybody runs into each other and they're like, how do you guys know each other? um and Charlie Day and Jenny Slate are like, oh, we work in the same building.
01:11:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. which is true. That was all we needed to do. We don't need to tell any more about that. That's nobody's, nobody's curious. It's fine. Move on. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Um, but like, yeah.
01:11:24
Speaker
Oh, you go. I mean like they, they eventually everything comes out. Um, and, uh, they, Jenny Slate explains all of it and everybody gets real mad, uh, as they should.
01:11:37
Speaker
as Um, Noah punches him in the face. Um, I feel bad for that. but feel I know, I know. As he should, but I still, I feel bad. um Because they were they were cute together.
Charlie and Jenny's Friendship Conflict
01:11:47
Speaker
he and Yeah, they were really sweet. And it's sad that their friendship had to die.
01:11:51
Speaker
But, like, the whole, like, catalyst for that is the fact that Charlie Day is starting to realize that he has feelings for Jenny Slate. And Jenny Slate is so hurt and betrayed by the fact that he just sort of, like, ended their friendship. She's like, you abandoned me.
01:12:06
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Well, I mean, what happens is, he comes up to her and he's like, I... I was wrong I shouldn't have done that we should like we should be friends like maybe like there is something between us you know maybe you're my slow burn and she's like well you're not my slow burn like yeah um you you betrayed me yeah um and uh and then that like the the actual part where they're like separated but also mad at each other is like a minute and a half in this movie yeah um because
01:12:37
Speaker
it's it I think it's very smart because it it's a necessary evil in all rom-com scripts. We talk about it all the time, is trying to minimize that that third act necessity, that hump that you have to get over in a rom-com script.
01:12:52
Speaker
And the the really clever thing they do is they can make it last the whole act by the construct of this script where they're separated, but they don't they're not antagonistic toward each other. So the antagonism that they have to overcome only lasts a tiny, tiny fraction right at the end of the movie.
01:13:09
Speaker
Yeah.
Anne's Realization and Life Goals
01:13:11
Speaker
They're in the hotel. He talks to Anne and he's like, you didn't believe in me. You know, like you and he's like putting together stuff. He's going to do it. Like he's got like ah a commercial real estate broker and he's going to open his own um retirement home. That's going to be nice.
01:13:28
Speaker
um And then she kind of has like Anne has like a really humanizing moment where she's like, you know, I thought that I needed these things. And like, I maybe I am an English teacher, you know, maybe I and i don't need to, yeah, maybe I don't need to be so yeah obsessed with some definition of success that I thought I could reach when I was a teenager, you know, exactly.
01:13:52
Speaker
um And then Jenny Slate, like talks to Noah, and like, they have like, kind of a sweet moment together. um where He's like, Yeah, you were You were bored when you were with me. And I'm glad that they have those moments. I think Scott Eastwood's really good in this.
01:14:05
Speaker
Yeah, I do too. i think that he plays his role splendidly. haven't really seen him in anything. I have no idea what else he's... This is the first thing I've seen him in. Yeah. um I know that my mom really likes him because my mom um has told me about him before.
01:14:21
Speaker
um My mom really has her finger on the pulse of the trash movies that they put on streaming.
Rom-Com Ending Symbolism
01:14:28
Speaker
um
01:14:31
Speaker
And ah then they have what I think is a perfect ending to this movie. Like, probably the best thing in this movie. Oh, it's so um yeah Where they're on the plane. They're taking a plane from Savannah to Atlanta, I guess. Yeah, which seems insane.
01:14:45
Speaker
But we gotta it. does seem insane. um But it's like, maybe there's like, maybe maybe they mean like there's maybe a scene that got cut or something where they explain because maybe he drove with gina rodriguez and she drove with manny jacento and they don't rides anymore and so it was fast easier quick flights it easier to get like a hundred dollar plane ticket than it was to like rent a car or something i don't know yeah that makes sense um We can assume that.
01:15:16
Speaker
And yeah they get on the plane and there's turbulence and none of this is spoken. There's no dialogue in the scene at all. They get on the plane and they're sitting next to each other, but across the aisle. So they're both on aisle seats and the aisle is in between them. And it's the shot where the oxygen mask come down.
01:15:32
Speaker
He jumps up and puts the oxygen mask on her without thinking, sits down and they look at each other and smile. And then it cuts back to that wide shot. Of the two of them looking at each other and that's the end, which I think is- It's so sweet.
01:15:47
Speaker
Very good. Yeah. It's so good. However, Charlie did say, doesn't Katie not like movies where they don't kiss at the end? Okay. Here's the thing. These people don't kiss in this movie.
01:15:59
Speaker
That's true. Yeah, they don't. This is two movies in a row where they don't kiss they don't kiss at the end, but it's okay because we're- dealing with something else here. Like there's another, there's another rom-com and I don't remember what it is where the characters hold, hold, like reach out and hold hands at the end. And that's the end of the movie. And it's just perfect because, because we're, we're dealing with something else.
01:16:25
Speaker
Like a yeah a Hallmark Netflix, traditional rom-com needs to end in a kiss. Like Irish wish needed to end in a kiss because of the way the movie was structured because of the way, because of the expectations going into it, because it's like a standard, straightforward rom-com.
01:16:44
Speaker
yeah These other movies um that we're, that we're doing, you know, um
01:16:52
Speaker
what was it? What was the last movie we did? Oh my God. The apartment. The apartment. yeah The apartment. The apartment is a different, it's a different animal. It's a, it's yeah not technically a rom-com. It's kind of a different movie.
01:17:05
Speaker
This is like a subversive rom-com. This is about these two like fucked up people who like in another, in, ah in, you know, if they had had sex early on in the movie, like that wouldn't have been out of character for either of them, you know, like that is not what we're dealing with. We don't need to see them kiss at the end.
01:17:24
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like necessary. Yeah. it's not ah It's not a general rule that you have to kiss at the end of a rom-com, but some things require it and some don't, I think. Yeah.
01:17:35
Speaker
I agree. Yeah. I mean, like, I wasn't that bothered by it. um Charlie just sort of pointed that out and I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. How about that? Anyways, any final thoughts, feelings, opinions?
01:17:47
Speaker
And to be honest, like the rom-com that I wrote in high school, um which the less said about the better, did not end in a kiss. it and It ended in a hug because I was like, that'll be interesting.
01:17:59
Speaker
ah Actually. I don't know why I made myself a nerd the 16-year-old song. I don't know why either. Yeah, it was. From every story you've told me, that was not the case.
01:18:12
Speaker
That was not the vibe. No, it was not the vibe. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah. So, um, any, any other, any final thoughts? Any, any stars in your notes? Oh, I have one. Oh, yes.
01:18:24
Speaker
Mine says, here comes my love. Where do you want my love? Everywhere. Yes.
01:18:32
Speaker
Which is her roommates talking about where he's going to come. Where he's going to come. Yeah. My love. My love. Yikes. I thought you said my love. Calling it love is grosser. No, it's love. Yeah. I thought he was saying, here comes my load. Here comes my load. Oh God. And I was like, gross.
01:18:51
Speaker
Yeah. That's gross. My love is both gross and and funny. Yes. That's much better writing. yeah Actually, i don't even know if I'm right.
01:19:02
Speaker
I heard, i think I have subtitles on, so I'm pretty sure. i Yeah. I do watch the subtitles, so I'm pretty sure I'm right. But i I'm not um not going to stand behind that. I think it's better if it's my love.
01:19:16
Speaker
Nice.
Next Week's 'Garden State' Teaser
01:19:17
Speaker
Anyways, you want to know what we're doing next week? What are we doing next week, Emma? Next week, it's been a long promised film that I've promised Charlie that we would watch for literally years.
01:19:29
Speaker
And I figured now's the time. I bet it's going to British. No, it's not. It is the opposite. It's very American. The opposite of British would be French. okay. Okay.
01:19:40
Speaker
Yeah. Oh,
01:19:43
Speaker
Would be French. Nope. It's very American. It's very twee. It's very 2003. That's right, guys. We're going to be doing Garden State. Oh, no.
01:19:59
Speaker
Okay. I'm interested in watching this movie again because... I have a relationship with this movie, as does anyone our age, I assume. Yeah, as you do. Because we were a certain age when we saw this movie. It was at a formidable point of our adolescence.
01:20:16
Speaker
Yes. Yes, it was. Yeah. Yeah. um yeah Okay. All right. Hell yeah. Yeah. I'm interested. Let's listen to some... To talk about Christian Green Girls. To some shins and have our lives changed.
01:20:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And talk about toxic men. Boy, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. Florence Pugh is going to be our guest on that episode, by the way. Yeah. Who is?
01:20:39
Speaker
Florence Pugh. We've got Florence Pugh on that one. Florence Pugh. Florence Pugh.
01:20:46
Speaker
Shall we? Because she dated Zach Braff. Oh, yeah. Okay. I was like, i don't know why Florence Pugh is... I could see it in your eyes that you weren't following. I was like, ha ha ha ha.
01:20:56
Speaker
That's so funny, Katie. I don't know.
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Speaker
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01:21:20
Speaker
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01:21:34
Speaker
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01:21:38
Speaker
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01:21:50
Speaker
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01:22:00
Speaker
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