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Clueless!
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Emma & Katie discuss the seminal 90's teen comedy Clueless, and can't help but get wrapped around the axle on the age gap, but you already knew that, didn't you? We also discuss Bussey Woods, lots of hometown Chicago stuff, Charlie's driving adventures, Emma's Emo past, and SKA!
Fact Check: Apparently Breckin Meyer and Deborah Kaplan divorced in 2014 🤷🏻♀️
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Transcript
Unraveling the Connecticut Serial Killer Mystery
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So yeah, so there's a serial killer in Connecticut right now. What?
00:00:06
Speaker
Well, it's like tri-state area. So it's like Connecticut, bodies have been found across Connecticut. There's like this one highway that it like goes through Connecticut and then up into Massachusetts and then Rhode Island, I think.
00:00:21
Speaker
Oh, God. And bodies have been found in, like, all these towns off that highway. Is your town off that highway? It is? No. No, no, no. No, no, no.
00:00:31
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it's not my town. But in a lot of places I frequent. Oh, my God. Emma, be careful. know. I know. And my friend, ah Emma... Emma g who was also in the ferryman.
00:00:45
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She, we were talking about it backstage and I left and her and Priscilla, another cast member were just like, um did a lot of work while I was on stage and they came back and they were like, okay, so we figured it out.
00:00:57
Speaker
So he's dumping bodies off this highway. Right. and dinner ah And then Emma G put me in this ah group. That's all about the serious new England serial killer. And turns out, um, I shouldn't go hiking by myself.
00:01:10
Speaker
Cause that's how he finds his victims. I mean, honestly, that's probably good advice in general. Yeah. Don't go hiking by yourself, which I definitely have done. Yeah.
00:01:23
Speaker
Oh yeah. I've only been hiking maybe a handful of times in my life and never by myself. Um, Oh man, I went hiking when we first moved here last year and the weather got nice because like we are in the woods and there's so many great hiking spots.
00:01:38
Speaker
And this is like, in retrospect, so unsafe. I like drove to this hiking spot around the corner from our house. And then it's just woods.
00:01:49
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And like, yeah it's like pure woods. And like the, it's really hilly terrain. I mean, it was gorgeous, but I definitely ah could have gotten murdered. I did not see a single human being.
00:02:02
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what happens when you live in the woods. Yeah. i mean, I went to college in the middle of the woods. Yeah. So you get it. Like,
00:02:13
Speaker
Yeah, does the does the Chicago Forest Preserves, does does does that count as hiking? I guess I've done that, but still not alone. Where's the Chicago Forest Preserves? Oh, all over.
00:02:24
Speaker
There's a ton of them.
Exploring Chicago's Green Spaces and Nicknames
00:02:26
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Like, are you talking about, like, Lincoln Park? No, like like the forest preserves. Like, that's what they're called. They're like- In Chicago?
00:02:38
Speaker
Yeah, they're city parks. um Hold on. ah Chicago Where there forest in Chicago? A bunch of places. 70,000 acres in the Chicagoland area right here.
00:02:55
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah, we've been a bunch of times. I can't think like, well, one of them is called, we call it Bussey Woods. um But it's not actually called that. It's like B-U-S-S-E Woods, like Buse Woods is one of them. Probably Busey.
00:03:11
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, we call them Bussy Woods. Bussy Woods. Bussy Woods. I know that there's like, I remember by my condo there, there was like a bunch of running and walking trails, but those weren't woods. um Yeah, I mean, some of these are some of the, LaBas, that's one we've been to. Yeah, LaBas, Schiller, Forest Glen. There's a bunch of them.
00:03:34
Speaker
Because like, I know you can like kayak down the river. Yeah. No, no. These are like, they're like preserves. There's like, I mean, like we can go, we, we, we see a bunch of deer and and stuff. It's, um, it's cute.
00:03:45
Speaker
Yeah. I had no idea. Had absolutely no idea. Yeah. How about that? Um, uh, I'm trying to find like, yeah, there's a, there's a bunch of them.
00:03:58
Speaker
I mean, Chicago's nickname is a city in a garden, right? Is it? It is. Yeah. Is it? Yes.
00:04:09
Speaker
The mask, the motto, or the the nickname is City in a Garden. Yes. I thought that it was the second city. The Windy City. that's Those are unofficial nicknames.
00:04:23
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Chicago's official nickname is City in a Garden.
Vampire Romance and Chicago's Portrayal
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Speaker
feel like it's so flat. But I guess that's... I don't know. i wasn't there.
00:04:33
Speaker
I don't know if we can blame Daniel Burnham for that one or what. um man. Oh, so I started the second book in that vampire series that I was telling you about a while ago huh um called My Vampire Plus One, which is about a different, about like the best friend of the main vampire and then he- Classic rom-com series. Yeah, you keep branching off and picking off all the all the ah characters who aren't with somebody until they all are. Because then once they're happy, you don't need to find out more about them.
00:05:03
Speaker
You don't need you't need to break them up and get them back together. Nobody wants that. But you could get like, you know, a little little sometimes they'll be like like a a tertiary plot in the second book is the main characters from the first book doing something else, you know, but like you can't, you can't have a whole book about it. Right.
00:05:21
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So that's what my vampire plus one is. And, um, especially now knowing that the author didn't is not from Chicago, some references, like I'm still very impressed that she makes,
00:05:34
Speaker
And then other references, I'm like, oh, obviously, i don't think you've ever been to Chicago. Because, like, there's this whole thing about- Well, surely she's been to Chicago, but, like, you know, didn't live here.
00:05:45
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Because, like, she knows, like, the general layout. But, like, ah there is this whole thing that Ming girl in this book goes to a family dinner- And she's like, we go to and we go to the Italian village, which is ah Chicago staple. My grandparents had their engagement party there.
00:06:06
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And like, the far yeah, it's it is a is historic Italian. I've never been in Chicago. Yes, it is downstairs downstairs downtown downstairs downstairs Chicago.
00:06:20
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ah ah means ah That means the um Downstairs Chicago is Lower Wacker. Yeah, but it's not Lower Wacker. Are we? No, I guess it is below Lower Wacker because it's off of Madison.
00:06:34
Speaker
madison It doesn't matter. That's only interesting for people that are in Chicago. um But it's a historic Italian restaurant. She goes, so we go to the Italian village. It was more busy than usual because it's a brand new restaurant and it's super hot.
00:06:52
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And I was like, no, it's not. ah
Introduction to 'Go Get Your Girl' Podcast and 'Clueless'
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Historic Italian village. She Googled something. Yeah. Exactly. My grandparents had their engagement party there.
00:07:04
Speaker
I mean, that's a net that's the editor's fault, really. i know, right? I mean, that everybody knows about the Italian village. There's things like um there's there's these things like that. i Obviously, i love to see when things are are shot in Chicago, but a lot of times things are set in Chicago and aren't and are not shot in Chicago. Like my where I went to law school, The Good Wife.
00:07:23
Speaker
Oh, yes, yes, yes. Good Wife University. Shot in New York, but set in Chicago. And... Sometimes there's some some stuff that's normal, but most of the time it is it looks nothing like Chicago. I mean, aside from very ah some stock footage and stuff like that, they take no pains to make anything look like Chicago. And I may have told this story on this podcast before, actually, because I tell it a lot because it's absurd.
00:07:51
Speaker
But they um there's one point where they go to they they tell her that she used to meet somebody at the Addison Red Line stop. Mm-hmm. And she goes there and it shows her in a parking lot with a big brick building that says Addison on the outside of it. Absolutely not.
00:08:07
Speaker
You could have picked any other Red Line stop. It did had nothing to do with being Addison. Why would you pick the one that is the Wrigley Field stop? that The one that everyone knows.
00:08:18
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Yeah. It is Wrigley Field. It is Boys Town. It is a bunch of things. Belmont. It's the worst Red Line stop, at least on the north side.
00:08:31
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um it was my penultimate one for my Lakeview apartment. And so I would always, if there was a Cubs game, coming home from work was hell. Yeah. Because everyone would be on my train.
00:08:43
Speaker
ah and they would like get on for one stop, or they would like pack on for one stop because everyone was like leaving. and I had to get off at that second stop. Yeah. Sometimes I just got off and walked.
00:08:56
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all Yeah, this does not relevant take place in Chicago. No. That's right, guys. You guessed it. This Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Emma and Katie are just two popular girls in high school trying to live their best, sophisticated lives and keep their dads happy, keep their lives happy, you know,
00:09:20
Speaker
And I don't know, manipulate other people's lives. Guys, it's Emma. It's it's Jane Austen's Emma. I'm just going to say it. It's Jane Austen's Emma set in California in the 90s.
00:09:33
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That's right, guys. This is Go Get Your Girl. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie.
00:09:41
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i was like, what can I say that's not... And then we fall in love with our ex-stepbrother? Yeah. That's a whole thing. the And the ages on that is pretty confusing, but I guess we'll get into it. um We'll get into it.
Analyzing 'Clueless': Cultural Impact and Characters
00:09:56
Speaker
We are talking about 1995's Clueless, written and directed by Amy Heckerling, who directed fast Times at Ridgemont High and Look Who's Talking and um other things.
00:10:13
Speaker
Other things. Yeah, Look Who's Talking is a choice. it's It was a big hit. um I know. I have... I saw it, I think, when I was a kid. I, like, rented it on VHS, but it was, um, I think that's generally perceived to be a bad movie at this point. Yeah. I mean, there's, like, 80 sequels.
00:10:31
Speaker
There are. There's one with dogs. It's weird. Yeah. Look who's talking to. Um, yeah. Look who's tooking. Look who's tooking. That's what they should have called it. Yeah.
00:10:43
Speaker
Um. The squeak wall. Yeah. She mostly does TV now. Like, Like most directors, honestly. Of course. Yeah. But yeah, she... Yeah, Fast Times at Ridgemont High was a huge hit.
00:10:56
Speaker
and um And this was... kind of And so was Look Who's Talking. And so yeah she was definitely one of the most successful women directors in Hollywood, especially for the 80s and 90s. Fabulous.
00:11:08
Speaker
And she did a great job with this. Yeah, this is a great movie. that This is... um It's very 1995, which is kind of what they were were going for. they They wanted to define that aesthetic, and they certainly did. So this is about ah Cher Horowitz, a 15-year-old girl, we should point out. We repeat, 15.
00:11:31
Speaker
She's not 16. She's not 17. She's not 18. She is 1'5". 15. 15. she's not eighteen she is one five fifteen She turns 16 during the course of the movie, um which is a... Yeah, we'll get to it.
00:11:47
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Yeah. um But yeah, because her driver's test is ah is a big plot point. Yeah. 15-year-old Alicia Silverstone, um which this very briefly made her a huge star. And she... exactly Kind of stopped doing stuff after a certain amount of time. But like this was... She was... um ah Yeah, she was 18 years old when they shot this movie.
00:12:12
Speaker
I thought you were going to say she was 15, and I was like, no, she wasn't. No, she was 18. She was 18, Brittany Murphy was 17, and Stacey Dash was 29. Love that.
00:12:24
Speaker
Just proving, once again, Hollywood. Anybody can be in high school. I mean, 29 is pretty old. Like, I don't think that any of the Dawson's Creek or Buffy kids were ever 29. I mean... nine wasn't until like later later years wasn't what's her face from bridgerton uh who was also in dairy girls she was like yeah but yeah that's yeah true that's true yeah she was in her 30s when she was in dairy girls yeah um nicola coughlin yeah yeah and in bridgerton both where she has to be like 15
00:13:00
Speaker
Is she a teenager in Bridgerton? i didn't I've never watched Bridgerton. I don't like yeah Regency stuff. We've had this conversation before. You're not a ah period drama person. Yeah, I need people to have cell phones and say fuck.
00:13:12
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Yeah.
00:13:15
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um Yeah, so this is loosely based on um on Jane Austen's Emma. It is about a popular girl who likes to set people up. Yep.
00:13:27
Speaker
She is very, very rich. Her father is Dan Hedaya. Yes. Who plays a um litigator. Who's the scariest kind of lawyer.
00:13:39
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ah Corporate, yeah, lawyer. Who is, um and she runs his life. Like her mom died when she was a baby and she she takes care of him. Yeah.
00:13:50
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She tries to get him to eat healthy and he yells a lot. Yep. Yep. Yep. And she takes it like a champ and she goes, daddy, yeah daddy, Dr. So-and-so said you need to get your cholesterol down to 200. Yeah.
00:14:05
Speaker
Um, which I guess is, which is probably high. i don't know lot about cholesterol. Yeah. I do as it runs in my family. and I had a cholesterol thing when i went to the doctor a while ago, but it's fine. I sorted it out.
00:14:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. but I eat a lot of cheese, but I've never had high cholesterol. It runs in my family. It doesn't matter like what I do or Oh, for sure, yeah.
00:14:32
Speaker
I'm sure living at my parents' house for a year and eating... i love you, Mom. Your cooking is amazing. Your cooking is so great. But her secret ingredient to everything is butter and wine. um Of course.
00:14:43
Speaker
Like French. Did not help. Like the French. Exactly. Like Julia Childe. um this movie is is full of people um oh so many people Lisa Silverstone, Stacey Dash, Brittany Murphy Paul Rudd, Donald Faison Breckenmeyer, Jeremy Sisto Wallace Shawn Christian is Justin Walker and his headshot is from this movie so it looks like he hasn't done anything since yeah
00:15:15
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i No, he's been in a couple of things um It is a Yeah So, high school in Beverly Hills In 1995 And so much like how Fast Times at Ridgemont High was like a particular Snapshot of of High school in the 80s This is the high school in the 90s movie I mean, I can't think of anything based Really any more iconic than than this Oh, absolutely.
00:15:44
Speaker
i mean It's a very specific kind of high school. Yeah, specific to California rich kids. And you can see it from when Ty comes and she's used to going to like a normal high school and she asks all the questions that like a normal high schooler would ask.
00:16:01
Speaker
yeah And they're like, what? No. Oh my gosh. um But yeah, it sort of helped solidify the idea of i don't know, consumerism in 90s culture.
00:16:16
Speaker
i mean, yeah, it's the 90s Valley Girl thing. Like we had Valley Girl also in the 80s. And this is, this is a, um I mean, the Valley Girls aren't this rich. Like that's ah that's ah a big point. These are like the most privileged kids in America, basically. Exactly.
00:16:34
Speaker
Which is how we start this movie. With the banger Kids in America. Uh-huh. Yeah. um it's Who is it singing, kids? It's a cover. The Muffs.
00:16:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Don't ask me how I know that. A pop punk cover of The Muffs. Is it because you have the soundtrack? I do. I love this movie so much. Was it on CD?
00:16:57
Speaker
it was. Yeah. I had it. remember the the VHS copy of this ah movie, had ah music video at the, after the credits for the, the song, we are young that plays when she's doing the pictures.
00:17:15
Speaker
We are. Yeah. Yeah. yeah There's lots of really great things. ah Lots of really great music moments in this movie. um I mean, we will also get to um not real big fish.
00:17:30
Speaker
the money money boss tones yeah mighty mighty boss tones to which my very first riot fest they were playing i forced charlie to go watch the mighty mighty boss tones he's like why are we gonna go see this band and um i was like little oh sir good sir have you never seen lulis it's the righty mighty mighty fucking boss tones yeah uh Yeah, and it was a good time.
00:17:55
Speaker
because it's And they've got that other song. ah the um The impression that I get. yeah I don't know the name of any of their songs. I just know, was it in Clueless? Was it on the soundtrack? it's not on the It's not in this movie, but it is ah another song that they had. That was very popular.
00:18:11
Speaker
um ah ah ri that Did you skank at Riot Fest? No. Do I look like I would skank? I don't know. Do I look like I would skank? I have never even been in a mosh pit, my friend.
00:18:27
Speaker
i You've never been in a pit? No, I was always like, again, i was an emo kid, but I was like classy emo. so I don't i would know.
00:18:38
Speaker
i would stand on the edge and take pictures of all my friends in the mosh pit. Oh, okay. Cigarettes and silently judge everyone. But like, oh I was like, if Cher Horowitz decided that she was emo, like Cher Horowitz wanted to be Amy Lee from Evanescence.
00:18:56
Speaker
Because that doesn't surprise me about your personality the way I know you now. But I guess my my my mental picture of you as a teenager, like you say that you were emo, so I'm surprised to learn this. yeah But that does track with you as a person now. It's basically Cher Horowitz wanted to be Amy Lee. Okay.
00:19:15
Speaker
I've always been me. Let's be real here. Yeah, yeah. I just was like a little bit more bothered. Just more eyeliner then. yeah more More eyeliner and I related a lot more to lyrics.
Cher's Character Growth and Social Dynamics
00:19:33
Speaker
um ah Yes. So we will get to the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones. But first we have to talk about her computer system. Oh my God. Yes. Which we've talked about on this show before.
00:19:45
Speaker
My first or my first note is kids in the America exclamation point. And my second note is the fact this tech doesn't exist in 2025 is a crime to humanity. This movie is 30 years old and we don't have the technology of her. Had 30 years.
00:20:04
Speaker
Her windows based ah fashion program. um For those of you who maybe have not seen this movie, I don't know why, but go watch it. Um, She is getting dressed in the morning and she goes to her computer, where which had much like how we talked about in Miss Congeniality. It's like a paper doll kind of system where it, there's a photo of her and then she super imposes all of her outfits over it. And it even tells us like, not a match. Don't wear this.
00:20:34
Speaker
Yeah. And then of course she goes for the matching top and skirt combo and it goes, that's a match. And it's just like, well, of course it's a match. They go together. It's a suit. What are you talking about? Um,
00:20:44
Speaker
It is a Jean-Paul Gaultier suit that is the really the only expensive costume piece in the entire movie. Everything else was off the rack and like thrifted. yeah Oh, wow.
00:20:57
Speaker
Even if her Alana? there's so much many i think it's because there's just so many costumes in this movie. They decided that they and it would the budget would be completely out of control if they if they did design her for everything. Yeah. so yeah Very, very true.
00:21:11
Speaker
um Yeah, $200,000 was the costume budget on this film. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, That's for everyone. yeah And there's a lot of characters. There are lot. mean, it's a whole high school full of rich kids. Yeah.
00:21:23
Speaker
And a bunch of extras. And everybody looks fabulous. Yes, yes. lot of knee socks. A lot of knee socks. And also, like, nothing that they wear you were allowed to wear in my high school. Like, absolutely none of it. Yeah, yeah.
00:21:39
Speaker
The skirts are like, like, like three inches long. the, um the this the straps are are too thin. Like none of that was allowed The platforms are high. Oh yeah. We would get sent home.
00:21:52
Speaker
um Yeah. I mean, I went to private school, so I would not be allowed to wear any of it. Well, you went to Bougie Rich Kid Christian Private School, remember? Yeah. And you had to do your fingertips and your skirt, you know, the had to do the fingertip test, which I remember so many friends who rolled their skirts.
00:22:13
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. It doesn't help that I have Muppet arms, too. I have Muppet arms, a long torso. What do you mean by Muppet arms? They're attached to to wires. have little Do you?
00:22:28
Speaker
Yes. Look at my arms. I mean, you're tall, but I've never noticed that your arms are particularly long. my arms video My arms are kind of are um are weirdly short.
00:22:39
Speaker
um Really? to be I mean, they're they're they're long because I'm very tall, but to be as tall as I am, my arms are not. proportional um because there are like things that I can't reach at work that people who are shorter than me can reach. And I'm like, well how did that happen? That doesn't make any sense.
00:22:56
Speaker
I know. i have, I mean, I'm not, I'm not like a T-Rex or anything, but like, they're just a little, they're shorter, they're shorter than you would expect. That's what I'm trying to Little T-Rex hands.
00:23:09
Speaker
Yeah. Well, next time that I see you in a few weeks, we'll have to compare arm lengths. Okay, cool. We'll measure our arms. It'll be like our version of a dick measuring contest.
00:23:23
Speaker
Yeah. But our arms? Sure. To prove who has the weirdest length ratio to our body? okay
00:23:34
Speaker
ah Sounds good. You're not going to look away from my Muppet arms. I'm probably... Just knock it on the microphone. yeah Yeah. I will forget about it by then, I'm sure. Just like I forget about everything that I say on this podcast as soon as we stop recording.
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah. um ah Yeah. So she narrates the movie as she describes her her home life and her ridiculous Beverly Hills mansion and um her best friend Dion, played by Stacey Dash, who the less said about the better. Yeah. We're not going to bring up what happened to her after this movie.
00:24:09
Speaker
Yeah. She got real conservative. ah She did, yes. um And ah so I know that I read somewhere that they invented a lot of slang for this movie that then eventually got turned into real slang. So yeah I'm not sure what they invented and what they didn't. I don't think they invented as if, right?
00:24:33
Speaker
Was as if, like, because people definitely said that, but I don't know if it was... yeah No, there's no way they invented, or maybe just that just the putting the W's up with your fingers. Whatever.
00:24:45
Speaker
Yeah. as if, I feel like, as if, I know for sure, like, she's like such a total Betty. Or, um, yeah Mr. Hall, I was riding the Crimson Wave. had to call ass to the ladies.
00:24:58
Speaker
wrote that down. Which, as a child, I did not understand what that meant. As an adult, I think it's hilarious. And I have used that phrase before. of course. I was riding the crazy wave.
00:25:10
Speaker
I don't know what is what is invented. But, I mean, Amy Heckerling is is is known for that kind of thing, for sure. Yeah. um Yeah, I'm outie is also something they say, which maybe comes from this movie. I don't know.
00:25:24
Speaker
They don't say outie 5,000, which is what I hear more often. Outie 5,000. Yeah. yeah
00:25:33
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ah Yeah, no, I mean, I think like a lot a lot of the slang is like, Cher trying to be smarter than she actually is and using words and phrases and things that she does not really mean doesn't really know what they mean.
00:25:48
Speaker
course, yeah. Well, I mean, she's not stupid. She's not stupid. She's very smart. She's not stupid and she's not like and she's not as selfish as she thinks she is and other people think she is, which is kind of part of what happens in this movie. But like it is, you know, she is supposed to be this...
00:26:07
Speaker
um uh you know paragon of ah selfish rich privileged you know white girl um but she you know there's the movie reveals she does have more depth than that and we see it from the very beginning i mean like the first thing we see her do is like taking care of her dad right exactly yeah that's her save the cat moment oh god yeah The less said, the better.
00:26:34
Speaker
um And we see, and here's the other thing, like we see her in, um in debate class with her teacher, Wallace Shawn, who and she has to debate, at give her debate about, um about immigration. And she's talking about the, the Hadeans.
00:26:49
Speaker
Yep. And this brings me to the first of Emma's fun facts. Emma's fun facts. The Haitians, Haitians, that was all kept because Alicia Silverstone thought that's how that was pronounced in real life. Yeah, sure. And she said those lines very seriously as her lines, and they just never corrected her because they thought it was We love that.
00:27:13
Speaker
It is funny. It's great. But what she says is, you know, I mean, she's right. I mean, obviously she was given that side of the debate yeah by the the class, which is something I always hated about debate. Like I cannot debate about something I don't believe in.
00:27:28
Speaker
Exactly. um But, um you know, she says it like we need to let these people in. It does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty. of liberty That's my next note. Which like, he gives her a C. Like, that is a good debate.
00:27:42
Speaker
like i mean, in Mr. Hall's defense though. In Mr. Hall's defense. ah Katie. Katie. Her debate. She won the debate. She won the debate.
00:27:53
Speaker
Amber had nothing. Half of that class was not paying attention. Most of them were playing with their nose job casts. Yeah, every single time there was a nose job in the background, Charlie went, is that another nose job?
00:28:07
Speaker
Yeah, there's a lot of nose jobs in the in the background. And as someone who has had a nose job, I got to tell you, like that thing only stays on for like three days. like You did not need to come to school with the nose job cast on.
00:28:18
Speaker
I mean, they just wanted to show off the fact that they had a nose job. I think that's what it is. you remember being Performative nose job casts, yeah. Exactly, exactly. It's like, what did you get the nose job this morning then you're coming to class? Yeah, exactly.
00:28:32
Speaker
um Most of their parents are probably plastic surgeons. Yeah. uh that's true back to debate class uh his reasoning for giving her a c was that her debates were unresearched that's true and that's true on um there was some other reasons but unresearched i think is very valid she's just saying how she feels That is also the problem that I had with debate. I mean, I didn't have a debate class, but we did as part of theater. We had a debate like section.
00:29:03
Speaker
And yeah, they would say I didn't do research and I just um ah what is the fallacy like appeal to to emotion or something. There's some one of those logical fallacies, which is like, yeah, that's like my whole deal. That's what I do. yeah Exactly. I'm an emotional person. i'm going to say how I feel. So you were basically Cher Horowitz is what you're saying.
00:29:22
Speaker
ah Yeah, yeah, with yeah probably at the same number of mispronunciations, if I'm honest. Yeah, yeah because it does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty.
00:29:33
Speaker
There's nothing wrong with mispronouncing words because most of the time when you mispronounce a word is because you learned that word by reading it in a book. so Exactly. So it means you're a reader. Yeah.
00:29:44
Speaker
So take that, society. um ah and we meet amber who is her her rival yeah but also least i mean they're like get frenemies you know we didn't have the word from frenemies yet but that's elisa donovan um who is in you know other things uh she's the tv show She's a redhead.
00:30:09
Speaker
um ah and she's an, oh my God. what um ah I just, watch I just looked her up and all of the movies and shows that she's in here is the dog who saved Christmas, the dog that saved the holidays, the dog that saved summer, the dog that saved Halloween, the dog that saved Easter.
00:30:27
Speaker
The dog that saved Christmas vacation. What? Are these Hallmark movies? I think they're Hallmark movies. And she's in like a whole series of them from the, 2009 2015. It looks like she was in like six dog themed holiday movies.
00:30:46
Speaker
um well, I know what going to have to do next Christmas. Oh God. um ah yeah, she's done a lot of, she's done a lot of TV. Um, Including Clueless the TV show.
00:30:58
Speaker
She was on s Sabrina the Teenage Witch, the TV show too. she was. She was. She was one of s Sabrina's roommates when s Sabrina was in college. I remember that. We should. we can We can talk very briefly about the Clueless TV show, I guess. um I always forget that the Clueless TV show existed. Or it's one of those things where they're like, there was a Clueless TV show. I'm like, oh yeah, did that run for like eight episodes?
00:31:16
Speaker
No, three seasons. Three seasons. It ran for like 60 episodes. Yeah, it went forever. And it was on, um not TBS. It was on TGIF.
00:31:28
Speaker
It was on TGIF, but then it went to, um what was the one with the triangle? The triangle? I don't know. UPN. It was on UPN. Oh, UPN. Oh my God, I forgot about UPN. Yeah, Buffy went to UPN after i got canceled off of the WB. yeah Yeah, it got canceled off of TGIF and it went to UPN. I remember that.
00:31:48
Speaker
Okay, okay. That's probably why. that That was kind of like shows don't exist if they're on UPN, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And it's like repeats. Yeah. um Yeah, so we meet Amber, we meet um Dion's boyfriend, played by Murray, played by Donald Faison.
00:32:09
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Donald Faison!
Driving Lessons and Comparing 'Clueless' Characters
00:32:11
Speaker
Who we love. ah He's very funny in this movie. He has braces. yeah so good. Oh my god. And he is like, always like he is this like, rich black kid like,
00:32:28
Speaker
like keeps trying to appropriate like Ave and like black stereotype culture of the nineties. um And, but sometimes we'll just break out of it really quickly for a second. Yeah, exactly. It's yeah.
00:32:44
Speaker
Yeah. it's it's very it's a very specific character it's very well observed oh yeah oh yeah and like that she um Cher makes a a really great sort of observation because Dion and Murray are like constantly fighting whenever they're in public but then whenever they're like alone they are super sweet and like love each other so much yeah um he calls her woman she doesn't like it Exactly. um And he says, most feminine pronouns have a mocking, but not necessarily misogynist undertone.
00:33:16
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Ty's like, wow, you guys talk like grownups.
00:33:22
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:33:25
Speaker
Oh, and this brings me to the beginning of, because I feel like we're about to get to the driving of it all. Oh, sure. Yeah. there's Driving is a big part of it. Yeah. It is. um To which we enter into Charlie's Corner.
00:33:38
Speaker
Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. I govna. It's great. It's great. It's going stay forever. I hope we can remember to do that every time now.
00:33:50
Speaker
I know. Me too. I played it for Charlie the other day. And because I was like, ah did you did you see because I posted the video of it. And I was like, did you see your new theme song? Because my new theme song. What are you talking about? i was like, your new theme song.
00:34:04
Speaker
And so then I listen to the episode. doesn't listen jo yeah I know. Right. He's he's our are very devoted listener. He's like three weeks behind Charlie. I know.
00:34:15
Speaker
I know. He needs to text you all his corrections. That's true. Goodness gracious. But. But so I showed it to him and he goes.
00:34:31
Speaker
um she I wish we could get a clip of him saying I governor and then we can we can put it in. Right. ah To which he will refuse to do. and if he ever does do it, he'll go.
00:34:43
Speaker
governor. I don't think I definitely don't think I've ever heard him say the word governor. Yeah. Yeah, i he wouldn't say governor. He'd say governor. Governor. governor Governor.
00:34:56
Speaker
Governor. I mean, it's not it's not governor. Like, it's governor, no matter how posh you are, right? If you actually say that word, it's governor. It means boss, right? It's like calling someone boss. Yeah.
00:35:09
Speaker
And he wouldn't say governor. He would say chippy-chop, old chap, mate. chapp mates no I don't like chippy-chop. Chippy-chop. I don't like that at all. It's really funny when he gets super British and he uses a lot of really annoying Britishisms because he thinks it's funny. And he goes, am I winding you up?
00:35:26
Speaker
Am I winding you up? Is winding you up a Britishism? Yeah, I guess. Is it? mean I guess I watch too much British TV. Sometimes I don't know what what is a Britishism and what isn't.
00:35:37
Speaker
i know. I feel like I've said winding you up. Probably. and also could be an earlyism. ah But yeah, so we get to the driving bit. Charlie is, as the astute listeners to this podcast will know, Charlie is learning how to drive.
00:35:51
Speaker
Charlie is almost to the point of taking his test. He can drive on the highway now. Charlie knows lots of things. We should also say that unlike the characters in this movie, there is not a problematic age gap between Emma and Charlie. Charlie 35, in thirty five five in his thirty s in their s yeah um and He's And he's just British and yeah moved to America and never got his driver's license.
00:36:13
Speaker
Exactly. and um And we never really had to drive until we moved to Connecticut. And then I was like, you absolutely have to. And he's like, but I work from home. And I was like, I don't care. You have to.
00:36:25
Speaker
I can't your ass everywhere, Charlie. Come on Exactly. Exactly. I'm not your chauffeur. ah And so he's getting his driver's license and he really enjoys it. But he also, one thing that Charlie really loves is rules.
00:36:39
Speaker
Charlie fucking loves rules. He's a spreadsheet boy. He's a spreadsheet boy. He's a rules boy. He goes the speed limit. He follows every single fucking rule the road. What do you mean? He goes the speed limit? Like he doesn't like break the speed limit at all?
00:36:55
Speaker
He'll maybe go ah two or three over. Oh my. That's going to be rough if y'all have to do a road trip. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It drives every other driver around us insane. Because he'll go 25 in a 25. And nobody ever goes 25 25. Oh, Yeah.
00:37:11
Speaker
Can you imagine on Lake Street Drive? Right? Oh, my God. People would be furious. And then when people on his ass. People just going by at 80 on both sides.
00:37:22
Speaker
That's him on the highway here. Because, like, the highway s speed limit is, like, 55. But everyone always goes 80. Yeah. Yeah. Which is similar to Lakeshore Drive. And hell he'll be in like the slow lane going 55. And he'll be like, I don't understand why everyone's so upset. It says the speed limit's 55.
00:37:37
Speaker
So I don't know why you're so bothered, mate. Listen, I've been to London and I got to tell you, that's that's that is not a British thing. Like, that is...
00:37:48
Speaker
That's just a strictly Charlie thing. He yeah loves fucking rules. And he loves proving people wrong when they break the rules. And um in this, Cher Horowitz also has her driver's permit, just like Charlie does.
00:38:01
Speaker
And she, at first, drives around without a licensed driver, which is illegal. To which Charlie clutched his pearls seeing that. And then... She's only got a permit.
00:38:15
Speaker
She's only got her permit. Where's her licensed driver? Yeah. yeah And then he absolutely was just guffawed at her her driving. and She's not skilled driver, we should say. She's not good.
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah. She's... ah she's hitting some She's hitting some cars. she's ah She's in the wrong lane. Everyone is horrified anytime they're in the car when Cher is driving. Yes.
00:38:46
Speaker
And I said to Charlie yesterday, i was like, or two days ago, I was just like, so when you take your test, you're going to take your test soon. um Are we going to pull the clueless thing? And I pick you up and I go, how does it feel to have your license?
00:39:00
Speaker
And you look at me and you say, i wouldn't know. I failed. And he was like, why would you say that? Get in his hand. I know. And I was just like, because Clueless, because we just watched Clueless.
00:39:13
Speaker
I'm sure he'll be fine. Yeah, exactly. I said, you're a much better driver than sure Cher Horowitz. And he goes, well, it's a real low bar. She hit a car during her test. It's true. And they don't stop. They don't stop. The driving instructor is complicit in that hit and run. Yeah.
00:39:30
Speaker
And she almost kills a biker. She does. Who hasn't almost killed a biker, to be fair? Yeah. Someone who used to ride their bike around Chicago and almost be the roadkill.
00:39:45
Speaker
I'm just kidding. I've never almost hit a biker. um see the No, the a biker almost killed me one time, though. i oh yeah. Walking out on our old apartment, which is on and and not a busy street. It's on a tiny little side street.
00:40:01
Speaker
I open the front door from our apartment onto the sidewalk, and a guy on a bicycle zooms by full speed, like as fast as a bike can go, basically, screams at me. What?
00:40:12
Speaker
What? And gives me the finger as he's driving away. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. I had a biker do to when I was running. It's crazy. Like I was so mad. It's like, I'm going to start carrying a stick around. as yeah Yeah. Because as they go by. Yeah.
00:40:31
Speaker
For bikers to complain so much about like cars, not sharing the road, like bicyclists almost running me down on the sidewalk as I'm walking. Like this happened so many times.
00:40:42
Speaker
um Paul Rudd is reading Nietzsche by the pool. Yep. Yes, he is. And he plays her not stepbrother. Her ex-stepbrother, her dad and his mom used to be married. They are no longer married.
00:40:55
Speaker
it is It is pointed out on multiple occasions that they are not not related. related Many, many occasions. But he is still a brotherly figure.
00:41:07
Speaker
And he's so cute in this movie. He's so fucking cute. So fucking cute. he iss the i mean that He's the kind of boy that I um always ah liked. like the little short king?
00:41:21
Speaker
um He's not. Is he short? i don't think he's that short. Oh, yeah. Paul Rudd is like Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. little short king. No, like, you know, nerdy, sensitive, artistic.
00:41:33
Speaker
um No, he's 5'10". Well, his listed height is 5'10", so he probably is 5'8". Let's be real. I mean, have you ever seen him next to other celebrities? He's teeny-diny. Every male celebrity take their listed height on IMDb, subtract two inches. Every female celebrity add two inches.
00:41:50
Speaker
Yeah. Exactly. What does your headshot say your height is, Emma? Oh, I don't lie. My headshot says my height. I'm 5'8". Okay. Yeah. it's It's different in theater. You bothered by it? Mostly, I guess. Yeah.
00:42:04
Speaker
You intimidated? You intimidated by a 5'8 woman? B-yacht? Oh. um Yeah, my driver's license says I'm 5'11", because technically I'm 5'11 and five eights and I'm rounding down.
00:42:16
Speaker
There you go. There you go. And you're not six foot. No. You could put five twelve Yeah, I could. Yeah, as long as I'm completely barefoot, I'm 5'11 and Don't do the math.
00:42:28
Speaker
five eight i'm five twelve yeah don't do the math um So, yes, but because she um she gets a bunch of tickets and her dad is like, you absolutely cannot drive alone anymore.
00:42:43
Speaker
If you are driving, you have to have a licensed driver in the car with you, which is a setup that leads her to ah need rides a or a passenger in the form of Paul Rudd, her ex-stepbrother. Okay, so let's get into it.
00:42:57
Speaker
Yes. It doesn't say how old he is. I assume... That he is 18 and a freshman in college. I believe and as well that is what they are going for.
00:43:10
Speaker
But there's a lot of weird stuff that happens where like, why is he helping with this? Like he wants to be a lawyer. He's pre-law. Yeah. His ex-stepfather who he has a good rule. And like, you know, Cher's dad like has these moments of sweetness too. And she's like, why are we hanging? Why are you letting him hang out here? He's like, you divorced the, the, the woman, not the kids. Yeah.
00:43:31
Speaker
yeah He's like, he cares about him. And that's that's really sweet. but um Especially nice for his like general demeanor ah in all other things. Like he's very sweet to share. He gives her good advice. And yeah, he's not a he's not a bad dad. He's just, you know, very business focused and yeah angry.
00:43:52
Speaker
Yes. A little ball of rage. But only towards people that are paying him. Yeah. um so and So that's one of the plot lines of this movie is that he's around because he's help he's like learning from Mel, his ex-stepfather, about the law. And he's like, I want to go into iron environmental law. He goes, you want to be miserable the rest of your life?
00:44:16
Speaker
And in every scene, he's listening to Radiohead, which Cher complains about and calls it Complaint-Toron. Wah, wah, Yeah. Yeah. um and um and on counting crows in one scene as yeah counting crows and i'm like yep yeah i'm into that i like that and like drinking out of the carton and just like constantly eating in the kitchen yeah he makes a deranged sandwich at one point right they've got they've got like deli cut turkey in a drawer he pulls the drawer out
00:44:48
Speaker
He puts one slice of bread, which again, I know how filming works. Like they have to make it simple and they had to do it a million times. But like he takes one slice of bread, puts the turkey on it, puts like a tiny amount of mayonnaise on top of the turkey yeah and then another piece of bread and eats that. And I just I think that's crazy. yeah that And it just leaves everything on the counter. awesome yeah Yeah.
00:45:10
Speaker
Yeah. But also that's very typical. That's an 18-year-old boy, yeah. Exactly. I feel like your question to do with Josh and why he's like interning, quote-unquote, learning from Cher's dad. They seem to be giving him a lot of responsibility to be for a freshman in college, yeah.
00:45:31
Speaker
Well, because he wants him to succeed. He gives a lot of responsibility to his 15-year-old daughter. That's true. So like part of it is like the part of the reason why there's like maybe some ick around that in retrospect is because he's he he is supposed to be 18 and a freshman in college, but he's also acting like he's an adult lawyer throughout like a lot of the scenes in this movie and a keep other people twenty Yeah, and other people are treating him that way, too.
00:45:57
Speaker
um Like, that guy at the end, which we'll get to, like, is a lawyer? Is another college student? We're not sure. He's wearing, like, he's wearing one of those accountant shirts, like, with the stripes and the white collar.
00:46:11
Speaker
And he said he's to call in sick tomorrow. Yeah, oh, yeah, he did say he's going call. Well, I mean, like, it could be, like, a like a you know, an internship or a job that he has while he's in college. But I don't know. um But he's like screaming at him like he's not an 18-year-old college freshman. That's what I would be like. Dude, are you talking? Like, I'm in college.
00:46:30
Speaker
Right? This is not my job. also, like, this was the 90s. People were lot more mean. um yeah Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think people are are are mean in different ways now. But yeah, for sure.
00:46:43
Speaker
yeah It's definitely like that corporate, like, ruthlessness kind of cliche of business in the I've been yelled at as a receptionist by lawyers. Me too.
00:46:54
Speaker
Yeah. I'm not by lawyers. Yeah. Oh, by lawyers. I've been screamed at. Yeah. Yeah. That's why quit that job. Good. Yeah. Work for somebody that's going to scream at you.
Makeovers and Matchmaking in 'Clueless'
00:47:05
Speaker
Yeah. I was too nice. I was there for some time. Yes. The other main plot line that gets introduced is that Brittany Murphy shows up. Yeah. Brittany Murphy. RIP.
00:47:18
Speaker
RIP. Very sad. um Do we think that she was murdered? Do you think that she was murdered? I don't know. i part of See, the true crime like lover in me wants to say yes, but then there was like also- Because her husband died the same way like two months later, remember? Yeah.
00:47:36
Speaker
i Yeah, it's very suspicious. It was one of those, because like who who would have murdered them? Her dad? I don't remember. I remember like getting real deep on it, like back when it happened, but I didn't look it up for this podcast. But there's a lot of like, no, I don't think, no, her dad is like the one who's like, she was murdered, right?
00:47:54
Speaker
Oh, well, like. I could be getting this wrong. We probably i should remember her, her husband was the one. false things on the podcast. Why, why would she, like, she was like manipulated into that relationship. Like it was not a good marriage. like Oh, really?
00:48:09
Speaker
and don't remember that. Yeah, I listened entire podcast on it, and I can't remember the specifics. But then he dies with the exact same symptoms like two months after she does. And that's what's crazy. Yeah, who knows? Yeah, this is Emma and Katie's half-baked true crime corner.
00:48:30
Speaker
Things that definitely may not be facts. um Neither of us looked to this stuff up, so this is half-remembered stuff from years ago. So yeah, maybe we'll talk about that another time.
00:48:40
Speaker
and When we do the next Brittany Murphy movie, we will dive a little deeper into Brittany Murder. When we do Uptown Girls, we will absolutely about it. Oh my god. Because we absolutely will, because I love that movie.
00:48:55
Speaker
she shows up. She's a new she's a new kid. um it doesn't really say like what her parents do or why. It doesn't really't really get anything about her parents. We know that she's from New York. She's from New York.
00:49:07
Speaker
And she talks like this. And she wants a smoke. Yeah, a smoke. an herbal refreshment. Yeah, can we get an herbal refreshment? And they're like, yeah, I think that there's some there's some stuff. There's some teas at the cafeteria, but it's mostly Coke and stuff.
00:49:24
Speaker
Oh my God, you guys have Coke? Well, yeah, this is America.
00:49:31
Speaker
Classic comedy. um uh love that um so yeah she's like she's an artist she loves to draw and yeah loves to draw oh my god i want to talk like this the rest of the episode yeah um what a weather yeah and uh she has like a notebook full of like cartoons and stuff that she draws and she immediately yeah bonds with brecken mire the stoner skateboard like burnout guy Who um is is is so so sweet and cute in this movie, honestly. sweet and cute.
00:50:06
Speaker
He's also like a little toddler. Constantly like look at me, look at me, at me. Whatever happened to Breckenmeyer? I love Breckenmeyer. I love him too. He's in um ah Can't Hardly Wait, which is another 90s teen movie that I love.
00:50:21
Speaker
And Josie and Pussycats. He is! He's married to the... He's married to the writer and director of ah Can't Hardly Wait and Josie and the Pussycats. Really? Yeah. Last time we watched Josie and the Pussycats, I remember looking at the... Because it's direct what it's directed by um by a couple.
00:50:40
Speaker
ah No, but by a man... I'm sorry. By a man and a woman who are not in a relationship, but they are like creative partners. Yeah. And both those movies written and directed by this these these two people. And the woman is married to Breck and Meyer.
00:50:53
Speaker
Yeah. oh oh he's got a podcast he's on american dad robot chicken that makes sense uh he was on a show called crossing swords he did a little stint on the show good girls which was a pretty good show uh i don't know uh he was on creep show he he's still acting he's just doing he's doing some stuff stuff yeah yeah good for him yeah um I think we can safely assume that basically every ah actor has a podcast, right? Where they interview yeah their friends. Yeah.
00:51:29
Speaker
I mean, in point right here. Amy Poehler has a podcast. Like everybody has it. like I mean, to be fair. ah So Jeremy from the show got me into the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast.
00:51:43
Speaker
And it is surprisingly so good. Those guys are funny. It's so good. It's so good. Highly recommend. This is Podcast Representation Corner. I'm not going to listen to it. i have i'm matt i'm I'm at capacity on podcasts. I can't listen to any more podcasts.
00:52:01
Speaker
I've been listening to i mean listening to the podcast. we're gonna do ah Spoilers, we're going to do a special crossover episode with ah with another local Chicago podcast. I've been listening to their podcast and that is like I am at 100% on the amount of podcasts I can listen to in a
00:52:19
Speaker
can't listen anymore i like ebb and flow with my podcast because it like it depends on like my mood like am i in like a true crime mood am i in like a supernatural like ghosty mood do i want to listen to something that's like episodic like audio drama i've got a lot of those um i don't yeah i never really got into fiction podcasts i love fiction podcasts i freaking love them so much Um, ah or do I want to listen to some like gossip? Do I want to listen to Los Culturistas? Like it depends on my mood. I can't with that. I can't with that. I, I like those boys and I'm sure that they're nice people.
00:52:55
Speaker
Caitlin, we were on a road trip. We were going down to Virginia, um and we were goingnna go we were going to see Wicked, and they had Ariana Grande on there, and we tried to listen to that episode.
00:53:06
Speaker
And I was like, this is the most obnoxious thing I've ever heard. And Caitlin agreed with me. um We both like couldn't handle it. love it so much. I love them. i'm I'm happy for you. It's not my thing. Okay.
00:53:18
Speaker
Yeah, I get it. they're They're not everyone's cup of tea, but- Live your life. Well, and maybe if there was, if the third person was like a different energy, but like it was Ariana Grande. Yeah. So it was all the same energy. Yeah. Yeah. When they get someone that's like sort of the like straight man.
00:53:36
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like I'm making a gay reference, but you know what I mean? In comedy. you know what you mean? know what you mean. Yeah. A comedy straight man. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Someone with, yeah, someone with a different energy might be different. um The only really interview podcast I've really listened to was Maren.
00:53:53
Speaker
um Because I think he's brilliant. Probably the best interviewer that we have right now. yeah um Some of those episodes are are are fucking amazing. But I haven't listened to that in like two years at least.
00:54:05
Speaker
Is he still doing them? Oh, yeah. Yeah. oh Oh. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the most successful podcasts still, like. Wait, are you saying Go Get Your Girl isn't one of the most successful podcasts?
00:54:20
Speaker
I am saying that, yes. It's not of the most... It's not one of the most successful podcasts in this apartment building, probably.
00:54:33
Speaker
I don't know what you mean. But it's fun, and that's why we do it. Exactly. Exactly. And you guys listen to it, too, because it's fun. Anyways, yeah back to Clueless. we're an hour in i mean everybody knows clueless seen clueless go watch clueless like the whole yeah the whole thing of the movie is it's share and she's trying to get she's trying to make over people but instead she makes over herself we haven't even gotten to the makeover stuff yet
00:55:04
Speaker
um She is getting a C in debate in Wallace Shawn's class. she because I saw Wallace Shawn and I went, daddy? Right, yeah. Because your dad looks like... Not that Wallace Shawn is a daddy, which, I mean, maybe he is to some people. Maybe he is.
00:55:22
Speaker
No, but he looks like dad. And sounds, you said? Not sounds. No sounds. Looks like your dad. Oh, wow. And sounds like my dad. Inconceivable. When my dad's angry. Okay. He goes, rah!
00:55:33
Speaker
Um, so. Love you, dad. odd She wants to, um, she wants to negotiate her grade higher, yeah but he won't do it. So she decides that she wants to help him.
00:55:49
Speaker
And again, like, yes, it is based on a selfish choice, but the joy that she feels in doing this is very real. Like she genuinely Likes helping people.
00:55:59
Speaker
And part of the part of the the arc of this movie. Is her understanding. That she's always done it. Because she likes it. And the fact that sometimes it benefits her. is is a Is a side effect of that.
00:56:13
Speaker
Despite what other people have always told her. um Her whole life. ah um So she decides. That she's going to set up. ah Mr. Hall, played by Wallace Shawn, with Miss Geist, played by and actress of some sort.
00:56:30
Speaker
don't know her name. yeah Who, they're both like, you know, in their 40s and weirdos. But it's like 40s. It's 90s. That's true. So it's like 60s. Yeah, so they look like they're in their like 60s or 70s.
00:56:43
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, Wallace Shawn is probably 50 in this movie. I don't know. I think so. They, she kind of tries to get, she gives puts a secret admirer note in Miss Geist's teacher mailbox.
00:56:56
Speaker
yeah She gives Mr. Hall some coffee it's like, why don't you share with Miss Geist? And that's basically all she does. And then at the end of the movie, they get married. Exactly. She just sort of pushes them in the right direction.
00:57:07
Speaker
And it works because her grades get better because um Mr. Hall's getting laid and Miss Geist stops giving weird homework. Exactly. he needs a boink fest.
00:57:19
Speaker
Oh my god, Cher, he's getting her digits. Yes. I love that. is little On his little notepad, yeah. I know! They all have cell phones in this movie, which in 1995 was like a big deal. Like, they were rich girls to have cell phones. Oh, yeah.
00:57:37
Speaker
And like, they're at dinner table and like a phone rings and then everybody goes for their cell phone, but they're not sure who's who. so so It's so good. It's all played for comedy, of course, but like, you know, they had...
00:57:48
Speaker
Amy Herkling had no idea what was coming. exactly Exactly. Now it's the we open very much the norm. Yeah. People are just staring at their cell phones all through dinner um in every, you know, that's, which is the the cliche
Party Mishaps and Personal Growth
00:58:02
Speaker
now. Like it's, I can't get away from their phones for dinner.
00:58:06
Speaker
Ah, put your phone down. So Ty comes to school and Cher loves a project. And yeah she, because ah Josh, Paul Rudd has been like making fun of her for being self-involved and selfless. She's like, well, I'll show him.
00:58:23
Speaker
I will do a good deed in like helping this girl fit in, like become popular. I'm going to give her a makeover. yes.
00:58:34
Speaker
Um, they kind of force, like, clone her into Cher. Yeah. She doesn't ask for it, but they do it. No.
00:58:45
Speaker
They tell her, no, you don't like Breckenmeyer. That guy's a loser. He hangs out with the burnouts over there. We have a joint at a party, but we're not stoned all the time. Like, that's for losers. You don't do that.
00:58:57
Speaker
Yeah. Um, she is surprised to learn that these two other 15-year-old girls are virgins, which is, like, Very, very funny. I guess. I don't know. I mean, Pion is virgin technicality.
00:59:12
Speaker
she They really kind of dance around the fact that she gives him blowjobs and that's it. Exactly. Yeah. And I'm sure he goes down on her, too. He seems like a nice boy.
00:59:22
Speaker
Yeah, he seems like a nice boy. Yeah. um But they don't actually say that out loud. No, no. It's all implied. Is it PG-13? Yeah. I mean, you could say that in a PG-13 movie now, but not in 1995.
00:59:35
Speaker
I feel like... I have no idea. I don't know. They smoke weed, so it's probably PG-13, would be my guess. yeah I don't think anybody says the fuck word. I didn't notice it. Yeah, I didn't either.
00:59:48
Speaker
um They go to a party in the Valley ah where Cher has decided to set up Ty with El-En. With LM? Oh my god. Played by Jeremy Sisto.
01:00:00
Speaker
There's this scene earlier where Cher is getting a better grade in class and Jeremy Sisto is behind her and gives her a hug and kisses her on the cheek. Yeah. He's constantly like all over her.
01:00:11
Speaker
Which, but like it's it's weird the way that it that's kind of like that's the first time we really see him. Like he's in the background earlier but like I wonder, like it makes me think they cut a scene out before that where there was like foreshadowing that he was into her.
01:00:25
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, because it's always all of his sort of like, it's very obvious that he's super into Cher. Yeah. Yes, this guy definitely, this guy who's the worst, has a, what is he the one who left his Cranberry CD in the quad? Yeah. I think he is. Oh, okay. He's got to grab it before somebody snatches it.
01:00:48
Speaker
He does have a line. Yeah, because he's singing along to the cranberries in his car. Yeah, loves the cranberries. Yeah, loves the cranberries. It was 1995. I mean, who doesn't love the cranberries in 2025? I know, but he does sing to it.
01:01:01
Speaker
There you go. That's some cranberries right there. I don't know if the mic is picking up. Caitlin's singing the cranberries in the kitchen. I just heard a little bit of singing. I didn't hear the specifics of what song.
01:01:13
Speaker
but i She's singing it like a full octave down for some reason. I don't know why. Is it Zonji? she's do No, no. Turn Away, the song the movie. oh She's being him singing it That's what she's doing. She clarified. yeah There we go.
01:01:27
Speaker
ah And he's singing this right before he sexually assaults her. Yes, yes. um But first they go to the party and they're rolling with the homies. Rolling
01:01:41
Speaker
she am She gets her dress spilled on. yeah Her satin shoes. yeah know It's her shoes, right? Her satin shoes.
01:01:53
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um So Breckenmeyer spills a beer on her shoes and he gives her a joint to apologize. So they get high. Mm-hmm. And then um she's trying to set her up with Alton.
01:02:05
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ah And she gets knocked out with a clog coming off someone's foot. Yep, because they're trying to impress Alton. She was knocked unconscious. You need to take her to the hospital.
01:02:17
Speaker
um yeah That's not good to get knocked unconscious. No. But Helton carries her and then like gets some ice in a towel and puts on her head. And then we have this very sweet moment of Breckenmeyer coming in and he's like has ice in his hands because he thinks that he wants to help.
01:02:34
Speaker
And Cher's like, no, no, no, go away. Go away. Yeah. They're very mean to him for a while. know. I know. um he's ah He's sweet but dumb. Yeah.
01:02:46
Speaker
Sweet. And so she thinks it's working out between Ty and Elton. She tries to get him to drive her home, but he drives her home instead and attacks her in the car, basically.
01:02:58
Speaker
Yeah. She gets out. yeah And says that like he's has not he doesn't care about Ty because he could never go out with her because of who his father... because Don't you know who my father is? Yeah. Ty and I just... na er But you and i
01:03:15
Speaker
Whatever.
01:03:18
Speaker
And then he abandons her in a strip mall in the valley where she gets mugged immediately. Yep. This isn't Alana. It's a what up.
01:03:29
Speaker
Yeah. um And he takes her phone and her purse and she has to use a pay phone to call Josh to come pick her up.
Revelations and Relationship Dynamics
01:03:40
Speaker
who comes and picks her up with his, this girl that he's with, who's the worst.
01:03:44
Speaker
Yeah. But can we take a brief moment to talk about the scene where I only caught it. I've seen this movie like a thousand times, but I only caught this this watch.
01:03:56
Speaker
So it cuts to Josh's dorm room and he and poet, Yeah. A Wemlet lady. um I have to assume that she's a theater major or an English major.
01:04:09
Speaker
ah is oh She's a philosophy major. Let's be real. Yeah. Philosophy major. She wears a beret. Whatever. um They're like making out on the on his bed.
01:04:22
Speaker
But like. The ADR that is used makes me very concerned why we, he says, oh, come on, come on.
01:04:33
Speaker
Don't you wanna? Come on. It's like stuff like that. Wait, really? yeah Did you not catch that? I did not catch that. I was just like, what the, why would we give this line to Josh? No. Yeah. That doesn't seem like in character with him at all. Yeah. Exactly. But it's like along the lines of, oh, come on, come on, baby.
01:04:53
Speaker
Come on. Like, it's like stuff like that. And I'm like, interesting. What the fuck? yeah, that's not good. no And then he drops her off.
01:05:04
Speaker
And after they do this great little quote of Shakespeare and, uh, or she, this like English philosophy theater major tries to quote Shakespeare chair, corrects her and goes, um, actually, ah Hamlet didn't say that Polonius guy did.
01:05:20
Speaker
And she was just like, uh, sorry, I think I know Hamlet. I think I know Shakespeare. And she goes, yeah, well, I know Mel Gibson and he didn't say that. Which, yikes, but, you know, and was 1995.
01:05:32
Speaker
Exactly. and And, yeah, so that's, again, ah Paul Rudd starting to to develop this crush on her yeah throughout that, I think.
01:05:43
Speaker
Again, she's 15. Yes. Yes. But, like, again... not to Not to apologize for it, but like he's 18, she's 15. It's not that huge of a difference. The fact that he's in college is is complicated for sure.
01:06:00
Speaker
Not to mention her ex-stepbrother. Her ex-stepbrother. And is sort of, for 75% of this movie, very much sort of formatted as a brotherly type.
01:06:14
Speaker
You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, and that's that's the that's the thing. I mean, like, we don't know how long they lived in the same house. We don't really get, mean, we imagine it was a short-lived marriage, but we don't really get that much about it. Yeah, because that's mentioned, but yeah.
01:06:28
Speaker
Yeah. You know, it's still weird. Oh, they're virgins. Yeah, we said that. Yeah, um yeah. Deon and Cher, and Ty is not, ah because she's from New York.
01:06:40
Speaker
Yeah. And then the gayest kid in the world shows up. Yeah, then the gayest kid in the world shows up, Christian. And Cher is in love with Christian.
01:06:50
Speaker
Boy, oh boy. Because he looks like Luke Perry, which is who she said she was saving herself for, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And he's different than all the other boys. He's not like all the other boys.
01:07:02
Speaker
He's, know. He dresses better than she does. Exactly. And he listens to Billie Holiday and he drives old cars. And so annoying.
01:07:13
Speaker
i know Talks like he's in the rat pack. Paul Rudd calls him the ring a ding kid. Yeah.
01:07:23
Speaker
And then they go. He calls her doll face. Yeah. go And like the thing is like, it seems like, because what happens is he thought they were friends. um He thought that she knew he was gay on the because it isn't until he shows her.
01:07:40
Speaker
um christian's got a tony curtis thing so he brought over some like it hot and sporadicus yep um and they're watching the like gay sex like conversation scene in sparticus yeah uh and that's when he realizes that she's like into him and he has to be like oh okay i gotta go yeah yeah yeah i mean but then he also says like uh Oh, well, I guess at that that's the line where he figures it out. And she goes, ah do you want something to drink? Do you want some wine? And he goes, no.
01:08:13
Speaker
Did you ever notice that like how wine makes you feel like sexy? And she goes, that's okay. And that's his moment of being like, oh, fuck. Okay. She does not know that I'm gay.
01:08:24
Speaker
um And Donald Faison has to tell them ah in the car the next day um that ah that that he's that he's gay. And she's like, oh. And it's like, it's handled fairly well. I mean, like Donald Faison says that he, what is it, calls him like a disco dancing yeah disco friend of Dorothy or something. Yep.
01:08:46
Speaker
But like, that's pretty much the only like negative thing said about him. yes It's just like, oh, I was wrong. That's that. How could I be stupid to, yeah to not know that he was gay?
01:08:58
Speaker
And then they become friends. Exactly. And they become friends and really great shopping buddies, um which great. ah And that leads us to the most terrifying scene in this movie.
01:09:10
Speaker
yeah the mall which astute i thought you were talking about the um the car accident that uh that dion almost gets them in Oh, no, no. That's not most terrifying scene in the movie. No, I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
01:09:25
Speaker
Yeah. um And that's, and so Dion accidentally gets on the highway while ah Murray is explaining that Christian is gay. Yeah. Because they stop paying attention to where they're driving. And it's very terrifying. And that's the moment. And like, she's going, you know, under the speed limit on the highway. Everyone's passing and like honking at her.
01:09:45
Speaker
Everyone's screaming and uncomfortable. It's very much that first time that you're on the highway, like scary moment. Yeah. And like, so an old lady like passes that overtakes them and like gives them the finger. And that was the moment I turned to Charlie and I went, it's you on the highway.
01:10:00
Speaker
And he was like the old lady. i was like, no, no, no, honey. Donald Faison screaming with those braces on is a very funny image. Yeah. And everyone's going, ah. But that is what, and then like they are, he but he he's like, he's like, it's okay. You, you, you know, you did nothing wrong. He's like not mad at her. And the fact that they lived like spurs them into like do having sex with, having sex with each other, which is a big plot point. But
Social Tensions and Realizations
01:10:26
Speaker
yeah. So next happens at the mall.
01:10:28
Speaker
um so then so christian and share at the mall shopping and ties there but she's like talking to this guy as share calls guys like group of guys and share calls them i don't know where she finds these barnies um don't know what that was what is that a reference to barney the dinosaur barney the dinosaur yeah like what does that mean like like well so poor are they like and one So like I guess Yeah exactly You love me We're a happy family Barney's not British Emma
01:11:12
Speaker
Barney Hi friends I'm Barney ah Yeah no Barney you know The purple dinosaur Yeah, I'm familiar with Barney. I just don't didn't understand what these guys had in common with him, I guess.
01:11:27
Speaker
Doofuses! Like, Barney wasn't... He was always falling over and, like, I'm Barney. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess, I could i don't know what... it would be She said Barneys, and I was thinking of, like, the department store Barneys. Oh, no.
01:11:40
Speaker
Barneys, like, they're all a Barney. Like... Okay. It's either that, or they're, like, Barney... ah Baldwins? What?
01:11:53
Speaker
Is there a Barney Baldwin? There's not a Barney Baldwin. No. Okay. Then it's Barney the purple dinosaur. um Okay. Well, because yeah, she calls Josh. She says that he's a total Baldwin, which I guess means he's attractive.
01:12:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. For some reason, I thought that there was a Barney Baldwin. Yeah, Alec and William and Stephen and Barney. yeah yeah, and Barney, Barney Baldwin.
01:12:19
Speaker
And he's like the doofus of the family. And that's where this comes from. Everyone is related to a Baldwin. i think Stephen is the doofus of the family. um maybe that's where I thought because he played character named Barney.
01:12:33
Speaker
I don't know. It doesn't, I see his face when I think of it. Interesting. So they're at the mall and she's like, I don't know where she finds these barnies. And she's like sitting on the edge of, so those of you who may be younger and don't know what malls are, yeah the indoor shopping area. They know malls
01:12:56
Speaker
There's usually two levels. And the first level overlooks the bottom level. And there's ah like, you know, an indoor like balcony. sort of If you're listening to this 20 years in the future and... Need to know what mall is. Society has completely collapsed.
01:13:15
Speaker
Need to know what a mall This what a mall is. But she's sitting on the edge of one of those like sort of... like Which is like super scary in the first place. Why the fuck would you do that? And so he's like flirting with these guys and she goes, oh my God, would you like catch me if I were like to fall?
01:13:33
Speaker
um And they go. And then they start holding her and like dipping her down. And it's absolutely scary. And she's like screaming at them to like pull her up. To where Cher and Christian have to run over and save her and then yell at these guys. Because, like, if they were to accidentally slip, she would have fallen fallen and died.
01:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. It's horrifying. I mean, th then milks it as her ah touch with death. Yeah, yeah. She's starting to supplant Cher.
01:14:07
Speaker
um She and Dion, you know, have the fact that they both have sex in common now. So they talk about that. yeah And she's like, she starts, she's dressing like Cher. She doesn't need Cher to help her ah with like fashion and stuff anymore and, or, and be popular. And so Cher starts to resent that.
01:14:26
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. uh and uh and she even like has a moment where she tells brick and myers she brick and myers tries to go over and talk to ty and she goes i'm sorry to don't the uh the loadies go hang out over there on that so the loadies don't care for that no uh yeah um they um they go to the mighty mighty boss patone show at some point uh oh that's with christian that's before she realizes that he's gay yeah so
01:14:58
Speaker
um Yeah, Ska was really, like, had a real thing in the mid-90s. It was wild. It was moment. Yeah. can't imagine. It's always still crudy watch people skank. There's that one guy on stage in the suit yeah who's just dancing. Like he's a hype man.
01:15:14
Speaker
He doesn't. He's still there. He's a part of the band. Still? Yeah, still. I don't know if I've seen the Mighty Mighty Boss tones recently. um Yeah, he's a guy in a suit standing that in between the lead singer and like the trombone player or whatever and just like dancing and on stage. Yep.
01:15:32
Speaker
Plays nothing, sings nothing. Just there for that. I love that. just there for that. He's just there for dancing. He's a part of it. Yeah. Ska had a moment in the He's part of it.
01:15:45
Speaker
i mean No doubt started as a Ska band. That's true. Yeah. But then they got better. for a while yeah yeah and then they got worse yeah um ah yes so then um josh uh dances with ty at the uh at the ska show because she doesn't have anyone to dance with because he's sweet uh and then she gets a crush on him and then alicia silverstone gets jealous of that as well and they get into a fight uh where ty tells her that she's a virgin who can't drive okay you're a virgin who can't drive because she's wanting to burn all of her like elton memorabilia this guy she was into for 24 hours yeah and she she i which is very high school she like kept the towel of uh that had the ice that was the ice pack she got a tape of rolling with the homies it's all stuff from this one night
01:16:45
Speaker
um Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. And so now she's, she's like super into Josh and shares like, i don't think, I don't think like you and Josh go together. And Ty gets really offended by that and they are in a fight.
01:17:01
Speaker
And then um this happens right after share fails her driving test. So every, she's really down, her world's falling apart. So of what does she do to make herself feel better? She
Charity, Love, and Conclusion
01:17:12
Speaker
goes shopping.
01:17:13
Speaker
Um, because bitches be shopping. Sometimes you need to spend a couple hundred dollars to make you feel better. Exactly. i mean, in her case, it was probably a couple thousand. Well, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:24
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, she's shopping on Rodeo Drive. Uh, and, and then she has the realization that, oh my God, that's why I'm so upset. I'm in love with Josh in this beautiful moment with a fountain that explodes as she makes this realization. Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:44
Speaker
um she talks to her dad and her dad she's like i want to be a better person and her dad reminds her that like she's not a bad person she always does stuff for other people um exactly who makes sure daddy eats right yeah um So she decides she's going to sign up for help with the Pismo Beach disaster. Yes.
01:18:06
Speaker
But like, she doesn't know what people that lose everything need. And so she's giving them like caviar and like skis. and there's a really funny moment where she's like dragging her skis to go to the donation her dad goes share share what are you doing she's like i'm the chairman of the pismo beach disaster relief fund dad and she goes i don't think that they need your skis and she goes some people lost everything don't you think that includes sports equipment yeah i think they need like food and shelter first
01:18:40
Speaker
um So she's organizing relief stuff and Breckenmeyer shows up to donate his bongs because he's joined and a for weed.
01:18:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It was the 90s. It was the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. um And his name is Travis Birkenstock, which we should point out. Travis Birkenstock. Pretty on the nose. is He invites her to his ah ah skate invitational or what a skateboarding uh competition and she goes because she's she's sweet yeah yeah um see hi there yeah and they make up and then they this is the second time that the arsler is in this movie we should say yeah yeah it was the 90s not that that's an excuse but yeah it was the um
01:19:32
Speaker
um And she makes up with Ty. um and she and then Ty gets together with Breckenmeyer because that's what was supposed to happen in the first place. Exactly. all along.
01:19:45
Speaker
And um and they got she goes home and she's like, you know, she she realizes that she, you know, likes spending time with with Josh and not in doing the less superficial um yeah ah things that are more appealing to her as she's growing up at 16 years old.
01:20:05
Speaker
And also like she doesn't have a 16th birthday party. Like it's another thing we skip over in this movie, which is odd because it's and is very, very much seems like that would have been a scene in this movie.
01:20:16
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. um She screws something up helping her dad with paperwork and the other lawyer or paralegal or whatever screams at her and tells her to go shopping And like then paul rudd yeah Paul Rudd defends her. And then um they have this conversation where, I mean, like, she she doesn't want to be seen that way. Yeah. Which is kind of the the the primary, like...
01:20:48
Speaker
thing about their relationship right like she's he's always you know called her superficial and and selfish and yeah and um she's like she only really recently stopped seeing herself that way and she doesn't want him to see her that way and that's kind of how she realizes that she likes him so exactly then they kiss on the stairs and that's pretty much the end of the movie that's pretty much the end of the movie the epilogue is that they're at um miss geist and mr hall's wedding yeah which is of course insane and it looks like it's at share's house somewhere yeah um i wouldn't be surprised if share was like you could just have it here that's true yeah yeah uh because her her um her uh
01:21:34
Speaker
her house worker maid lady. I forget the character's name. Um, who there's a few. Lucy, I think.
01:21:45
Speaker
Lucy. Lucy's there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's there. It's the end. Everybody's there. Um,
Musical Adaptations and Podcast Conclusion
01:21:52
Speaker
we gotta have it. And, uh, and she catches the bouquet and, um, yeah, that's pretty much it. Then we get out.
01:22:01
Speaker
Yeah. 96 minutes long yeah love it love it it's how a movie should be that's that's clueless um and you know oh ninety s touchstone a yeah like generational thing like the the the dialogue the the fashion everything is is so iconic um yeah in this movie yeah and it and i know that's up yeah oh it totally holds up with the exception of you know some some some things that we pointed out yeah yeah exactly um
01:22:32
Speaker
I know that I have mentioned this several times before, ah that they have just turned it into a West End musical. Yes. And it has opened. And as promised, I watched clips from it.
01:22:45
Speaker
Uh-huh. And I can confirm that it looks bad. Sure. Yeah, okay, I figured. They usually are. Yeah, it looks bad. Like, I mean, Legally Blonde at least is fun.
01:22:58
Speaker
like this just Legally Blonde has good music, which is like the main thing. yeah The music in this, from what I heard, was not good. Amy Heckerling wrote the the book. i'm Let's see. who Who did the music?
01:23:16
Speaker
That's what I'm trying to find here. Yeah. Katie Tunstall. Who's that? KT Tunstall. um Suddenly I See. um Yeah. a Black Horse and the Cherry Tree.
01:23:32
Speaker
um she She wrote the music and lyrics by Glenn Slater, who ah is a yeah Broadway lyricist. um I mean, I think one my- Sister Act, School of Rock, the Broadway version of Little Mermaid. Okay, so like, you know.
01:23:50
Speaker
kind of kind of trash. Yeah. It just doesn't look very good. yeah i mean, I could be wrong. i If I see it and I love it, I take this back. But from the clips that I saw, i was not excited.
01:24:04
Speaker
i did not go oh my god. oh my god, you guys. Okay, so it was it in 2018. It was a jukebox musical off-Broadway. And then they rewrote it with original songs for 2024 Brumley, which is like off-West End.
01:24:23
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Yeah. um
01:24:27
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that's basically... Yeah, they they reworked it to to not be a 90s jukebox musical, which is like, yeah, that's a good idea. yeah make it original. Yeah, Exactly.
01:24:38
Speaker
I mean, Clueless is enough ah of a touchstone that um we absolutely should ah make it similar la Mean Girls a la Legally Blonde.
01:24:54
Speaker
All of those. like Just make it its own thing. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. There you go. Well, it'll probably come to Broadway eventually. Yeah. And then you can see it. I'm sure it'll get reworked.
01:25:05
Speaker
Yeah. Hopefully. Uh... so that was clueless uh oh final final thought from charlie he uh they make a mention to marky mark and they did charlie turns to me and he goes who's marky mark and i was like mark walberg and he goes yeah why was he called marky mark and i was like he had a pop career it was a rap career sorry a rap career yeah big difference before he became an Very strange. Yeah, because his brother was in New Kids on the Block.
01:25:39
Speaker
um Yeah. And then he, yeah. Donnie. Donnie Wahlberg. Yeah. Charlie had no idea who he was. Who's the guy who shoots Bruce Willis at the beginning of the Sixth Sense? Donnie Wahlberg. There you go.
01:25:51
Speaker
Man, I wish ah we're going to have to do that for next stuck Go Get Your Ghoul. I really want to re-watch Sixth Sense. It's a great movie. Yeah. Great movie. classic. It's really good. um What are we watching next week, Emma?
01:26:03
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. So we are continuing on with ah sort of a Jane Austen feel, a Jane Austen vibe, right? Okay. um It's been a minute since we've done a costume drama, ah ah even though you mentioned you hate them.
01:26:20
Speaker
don't hate them. just not super into them. Okay. And it is the anniversary, and so this has been all over my feed, and so I've been wanting to rewatch this. So I'm pushing it. I feel like you know where I'm going with this. yeah We're going to watch the 2005 Pride and Prejudice starring Keira Knightley, baby. Woo-hoo!
01:26:39
Speaker
ah Yeah, it's been back in theaters. um Yeah, Caitlin and Luke went to go see it. I had to work. But Caitlin and Luke saw it in the, saw it at the music box, yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah, and everyone's been re-watching it, and I'm like, well, obviously we have to do it for the pod.
01:26:53
Speaker
It's yeah well yeah the 20-year anniversary. Yeah, yeah. um And then we'll probably do a bunch of ah remakes of it as well. Oh, yeah, we've already done one. Yeah, we did... um We did um Fire Island.
01:27:06
Speaker
Oh, Fire Island is Pride and Precious. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. yeah Very much so. um Great. Love it. Yeah. Can't wait. So that's what we're doing. ah Fabulous. Shall we outro?
01:27:18
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Absolutely. You ready?
01:27:23
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01:27:34
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01:27:47
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01:28:02
Speaker
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