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US Open Recap + Wrestling's Greatest New Game - Session 75
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We recap another awesome US Open tournament, largely covering just the Senior Men's Freestyle brackets with some U20 MFS results as well. Plus, we talk about the latest wrestling game to play on a daily basis at gablegame.com!
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Transcript
Introduction to Gable Game
00:00:01
Cokeley Brothers
Look, people, if you're not playing Gable Game, what are you doing every day with your lives?
00:00:08
Big Daddy
and What are you doing for the for the five minutes that it takes to play the game?
00:00:11
Cokeley Brothers
it
00:00:12
Big Daddy
What are you doing?
00:00:12
Cokeley Brothers
It takes five minutes. Go to GableGame.com and guess the wrestler of the day. One of the 330 NCAA wrestling qualifiers this year. Pretty fun time.
00:00:23
Cokeley Brothers
I have a good time. You seem them to have a good time as well, brothers.
00:00:26
Ryne
Today is the 28th of April and the wrestler is, drumroll please,
00:00:37
Big Daddy
I already forgot his first name.
00:00:38
Cokeley Brothers
Chandler.
00:00:39
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:00:39
Ryne
ah
00:00:39
Ryne
Chandler Amaker from Central Michigan.
00:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
I did not know he was from Central Michigan. If you would ask me what team he wrestled for, I would not have said Central Michigan.
Wrestling Discussion Highlights
00:00:51
Cokeley Brothers
um um Welcome back to the barn session.
00:00:58
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:00:58
Ryne
if you say If you say the name, I can almost definitely tell you the team. Almost.
00:01:04
Cokeley Brothers
Steven Moncherry.
00:01:06
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:01:07
Ryne
Steven Moncherry.
00:01:07
Big Daddy
Who's that?
00:01:09
Cokeley Brothers
<unk>
00:01:10
Cokeley Brothers
Heavyweight.
00:01:10
Ryne
sounds Sounds like...
00:01:12
Ryne
um
00:01:14
Cokeley Brothers
What are you doing down with on that phone?
00:01:15
Ryne
Sounds like...
00:01:18
Big Daddy
He's so con right?
00:01:19
Ryne
Clarion?
00:01:20
Big Daddy
Oh,
00:01:21
Cokeley Brothers
Not Clarion.
00:01:21
Ryne
No? No?
00:01:23
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:01:23
Big Daddy
is he from the so com?
00:01:23
Ryne
Who is it?
00:01:26
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, i don't even know.
00:01:30
Ryne
Does he even exist?
00:01:31
Cokeley Brothers
App State. App State. yeah I knew it was a yellow team. Couldn't think. I was like, it's not Wyoming, right?
00:01:35
Ryne
Oh, that's how you pronounce that. i didn't know that's how you pronounce his name.
00:01:39
Cokeley Brothers
so I mean, I could, it could be Mon Cherry. I don't know.
00:01:45
Cokeley Brothers
Uh, Hey, how about that? U S open.
00:01:49
Ryne
Do you have doc?
00:01:50
Big Daddy
How about that?
00:01:50
Ryne
Do we have doc open?
00:01:52
Cokeley Brothers
And I, I've done nothing. I have created nothing. I have been busy today. I'm sorry.
00:01:58
Ryne
All right, well.
00:01:58
Cokeley Brothers
Also USA wrestling. Uh, what, what, what happened to the fantasy thing that you had for like moments?
00:02:06
Big Daddy
So they just get rid of that completely.
00:02:08
Cokeley Brothers
it Yeah, they they and it's forbidden. I like tried to open up the link that I was checking and it said 403 forbidden.
00:02:12
Ryne
Dude, yeah, yes, I did the same.
00:02:13
Cokeley Brothers
so they ah
00:02:15
Ryne
I did the same.
00:02:18
Cokeley Brothers
They cut us out. I wonder if there's some sort of security flaw or something.
00:02:23
Cokeley Brothers
Or compliance. I don't know. Who knows? Let's get into the results.
00:02:29
Big Daddy
Let's dive on
00:02:29
Ryne
Where are we gonna start? We're gonna start 17s and go up? are we gonna start chronologically?
00:02:33
Big Daddy
No.
00:02:34
Cokeley Brothers
you
00:02:34
Ryne
how are we gonna do it?
00:02:35
Cokeley Brothers
I have nothing to say about the kids. i have I have nothing.
00:02:39
Ryne
Why?
00:02:40
Cokeley Brothers
ah Well, maybe it's a little bit of U20s, but like you seventeen I got nothing, dude.
00:02:40
Big Daddy
I
Gable Game Banter Returns
00:02:46
Cokeley Brothers
I'm all out of gas.
00:02:46
Ryne
Hmm.
00:02:47
Big Daddy
got nothing.
00:02:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I had enough energy to watch seniors in some U20s, and that that was about it.
00:02:53
Big Daddy
I watched. I did watch the the u twenty finals.
00:02:58
Cokeley Brothers
she If Katie saw me watching wrestling this weekend, she took a swing at me, so I had to be very careful.
00:03:03
Big Daddy
Damn.
00:03:03
Cokeley Brothers
had to be... had to be ah covert.
00:03:06
Big Daddy
Because why? Because why?
00:03:08
Cokeley Brothers
Huh? Not actually, but she she was getting annoyed with how much wrestling I was watching. I was watching a lot of wrestling.
00:03:13
Big Daddy
much wrestling were you watching? He
00:03:16
Cokeley Brothers
There's a lot of good wrestling going on this weekend.
00:03:18
Big Daddy
doesn't join you just watch some... You haven't gotten her invested?
00:03:21
Cokeley Brothers
No. No. Whenever whenever i'm I'm watching um Luke Lillard on Nico Provo wrestle in the semis, she's not watching.
00:03:31
Ryne
Why that?
00:03:31
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:03:31
Big Daddy
That's understandable.
00:03:32
Ryne
Why? Why would she not? No, why? What? How is that understandable?
00:03:34
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:03:35
Ryne
It's a great match. Why does how does that not excite you?
00:03:39
Big Daddy
Doesn't excite me.
00:03:42
Cokeley Brothers
Doesn't get him going.
00:03:42
Ryne
That's because you're that's because you're a casual.
00:03:45
Big Daddy
I'm very casual.
00:03:45
Cokeley Brothers
ah Did you guys see this on the backside of 50?
00:03:48
Big Daddy
So casual that I was a champion today of the Gable Game.
00:03:53
Cokeley Brothers
Was what?
00:03:55
Big Daddy
Number one at the Gable Game today.
00:03:57
Cokeley Brothers
Oh.
00:03:57
Ryne
It doesn't matter.
00:03:58
Ryne
You're still a casual.
00:04:00
Cokeley Brothers
Congratulations, casual.
00:04:03
Cokeley Brothers
even a Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and again. isn't that the Even a broken clock is wrong twice in the day.
Match Predictions and Controversies
00:04:14
Big Daddy
0 for 2.
00:04:17
Ryne
That was terrible, Sammy.
00:04:18
Cokeley Brothers
still Still better than your Gable game record, buddy.
00:04:22
Big Daddy
My game of game record is awesome.
00:04:26
Ryne
and mind Mine's perfect.
00:04:28
Big Daddy
who was the Who was the name before today's?
00:04:28
Cokeley Brothers
i mean, yeah. ah Was it server, right?
00:04:34
Big Daddy
I didn't get to do it.
00:04:34
Ryne
Mm-hmm.
00:04:35
Big Daddy
that's I missed it.
00:04:37
Ryne
Oh, that's a miss.
00:04:39
Cokeley Brothers
you missed. Sorry, brother.
00:04:41
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:04:41
Cokeley Brothers
There goes the streak.
00:04:44
Cokeley Brothers
Um... Luke Luladol wins 57 kilos. Not too much to talk about there. He's got Spencer Lee. What do you guys feel about that match?
00:04:52
Big Daddy
So I heard a ah the ah the the potential match or the the match, I guess.
00:04:56
Cokeley Brothers
It's going to. Yeah, it's going to happen.
00:04:59
Big Daddy
ah I don't know.
00:05:00
Cokeley Brothers
you
00:05:00
Big Daddy
What do you want me say? Spencer Lee by Tech?
00:05:04
Cokeley Brothers
Do you think so?
00:05:05
Big Daddy
Probably.
00:05:06
Cokeley Brothers
yeah You don't think that Luke Luladol has any navigation cap capabilities in that match?
00:05:07
Ryne
and
00:05:14
Big Daddy
No.
00:05:15
Cokeley Brothers
Especially with Thomas Gilman in this corner.
00:05:15
Ryne
so get taken Don't get taken down. Don't get gut-wrenched.
00:05:19
Big Daddy
Thomas Gilman.
00:05:21
Cokeley Brothers
Thomas Gilman in this corner.
00:05:22
Big Daddy
He didn't beat Spencer.
00:05:24
Cokeley Brothers
No, but he came close.
00:05:27
Ryne
No, he didn't.
00:05:28
Big Daddy
Until he got pinned.
00:05:30
Cokeley Brothers
Wasn't the first match like a one-point match?
00:05:33
Ryne
Yeah, but it was controlled.
00:05:36
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:05:37
Ryne
Go watch it.
00:05:38
Cokeley Brothers
I don't care how controlled one-point match is. A one-point match one point away from being a different result.
00:05:42
Ryne
my It's just not true.
00:05:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, it is.
00:05:46
Big Daddy
That's not true.
00:05:46
Cokeley Brothers
Factually.
00:05:49
Big Daddy
Kyle Dake, Sammy.
00:05:49
Ryne
Yeah. but
00:05:50
Big Daddy
Kyle Dake.
00:05:51
Ryne
Yeah.
00:05:52
Cokeley Brothers
What about it?
00:05:53
Ryne
Jayden Cox.
00:05:54
Big Daddy
Jen Cox.
00:05:57
Ryne
out Kyle Snyder.
00:05:59
Cokeley Brothers
You can still say that they wrestle close matches. I think close and controlled are not mutually exclusive.
00:06:07
Big Daddy
What?
00:06:08
Ryne
Yeah, just disingenuous is all I'm saying.
00:06:13
Cokeley Brothers
I hate you. I'm going to move on to 61 kilos.
00:06:20
Big Daddy
I didn't see this match personally, but I heard that there was controversy. In the surmise between Dap DeShazer and Liam Cronin. Was that true? but
00:06:31
Ryne
Controversy how? In what way?
00:06:33
Big Daddy
I don't know. Cautions or something.
00:06:35
Cokeley Brothers
there dap slap?
00:06:38
Ryne
Yeah, for they didn't really say why either.
00:06:42
Cokeley Brothers
was there a das lab
00:06:44
Ryne
No, I think it was. I think they were trying to say grasping fingers, but i mean, they didn't even warn him.
00:06:54
Ryne
And then they hit him again and they threw the brick and they took that point away.
00:06:54
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, the refs were doing...
00:06:57
Ryne
But I mean, they should have thrown the brick the first time too.
00:07:00
Cokeley Brothers
The refs were doing some suspect things all weekend long.
00:07:05
Big Daddy
I mean, dude, the crazy amount of time that they were giving, like the crazy little amount of time they were giving guys on top in Parterre was, I didn't understand that at all.
00:07:05
Cokeley Brothers
You see that...
00:07:18
Big Daddy
Like what, what changed?
00:07:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, and that's...
00:07:19
Cokeley Brothers
the the The annoying thing about that is that is not replicative of what is going to happen on the senior level, internationally.
00:07:19
Big Daddy
What is, she
00:07:25
Big Daddy
exactly.
00:07:26
Cokeley Brothers
So that's a problem. Also, dude, I sent you guys a screenshot, right, of Brayton Lee's match with with Will Luan?
00:07:33
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:07:34
Cokeley Brothers
Bro, Brayton Lee is sitting half on his back and they just call a pin.
00:07:34
Big Daddy
That,
00:07:38
Big Daddy
Yeah, but he did get put to his back like 30 seconds in into the match.
00:07:41
Cokeley Brothers
eight Yeah, Will Luan did get a two-on-one and just threw him right to his back. And then that was it.
00:07:48
Ryne
He was mad because he got beat up by James Green.
00:07:52
Cokeley Brothers
Well, then Will Luan lost to Ian Parker for third.
00:07:57
Ryne
His anger his anger was gone by then.
00:07:57
Big Daddy
Good. Sure.
00:07:59
Cokeley Brothers
He said I got to pin Brayden Lee. Good enough. Okay. ah You want to move on 61?
00:08:07
Big Daddy
sure
00:08:07
Ryne
Is Brayden Lee back to form almost?
00:08:10
Cokeley Brothers
He took fifth or sixth? He took sixth. He lost eighteen to Bryce Andonian for fifth.
00:08:13
Ryne
Yeah.
00:08:17
Ryne
I'm just saying he looks pretty good.
00:08:17
Big Daddy
Well...
00:08:19
Cokeley Brothers
He was pretty good. He pretty good. um I'm excited for him.
00:08:23
Ryne
Where's your training is you training in Indiana?
00:08:25
Cokeley Brothers
Heck yeah. 61 kilos. Jax Forrest wins. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Seth Gross takes out Marcus Blaze in a wild match.
00:08:40
Cokeley Brothers
Jax Forrest... his only match that he doesn't tech fall in is a four Oh win over Ben Dovino in the semis. Ben Dovino only there because he gets a takedown straight into a lace and, and starts a volcanic eruption and Dayton fixes knee.
00:08:56
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:08:58
Big Daddy
The volcanic eruption.
00:08:58
Ryne
miss so Is that really what happened?
00:09:00
Cokeley Brothers
hey It exploded.
00:09:01
Big Daddy
Total eruption.
00:09:01
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. It seemed, it seemed
Lighthearted Interlude
00:09:03
Cokeley Brothers
like, i don't think Dayton fixes one to, to one to feign injury.
00:09:09
Ryne
I just didn't see what happened. so
00:09:12
Cokeley Brothers
He was you a lace and he was trying to defend the lace and then...
00:09:12
Big Daddy
Yeah, laced up, bro. Those dangerous leg laces. I will keep saying it. Too dangerous. One leg lice. You get one.
00:09:23
Cokeley Brothers
What do you mean? What?
00:09:25
Ryne
That used to be the rule.
00:09:25
Big Daddy
You get one leg lice and then you have to go to a different move.
00:09:28
Cokeley Brothers
I hate that.
00:09:28
Ryne
That used to be the rule when I first started.
00:09:30
Cokeley Brothers
I hate it. And also, does that reduce the risk in injury?
00:09:34
Big Daddy
i don't know. i The real thing is I hate watching guys get laced to like a tech. I hate it so much.
00:09:43
Ryne
What if you hit one and then release the lace, but then go back to the lace after that?
00:09:44
Big Daddy
I think it's...
00:09:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, what if Spencer Lee just sets up four leg laces?
00:09:50
Big Daddy
hi It's like a turn.
00:09:54
Cokeley Brothers
But you can just roll a turn. The hardest turn, normally, the hardest turn should be the first one.
00:09:56
Big Daddy
What? Roll a turn? What?
00:09:59
Cokeley Brothers
But seemingly it's the last one. And I don't understand that.
00:10:03
Big Daddy
The hardest one is the first one. Exactly.
00:10:05
Cokeley Brothers
Just like a lace.
00:10:06
Big Daddy
That's what I'm saying. exactly So yeah yeah, the hard part is getting that first leg lace and then the first cut is the deepest.
00:10:10
Ryne
The first cut is the deepest.
00:10:15
Big Daddy
And every cut after that, it's easy. It's easy. So
Tournament Insights and Predictions
00:10:23
Big Daddy
make it harder. Don't let them lace a guy into oblivion.
00:10:24
Ryne
Fool me. Fool me once.
00:10:27
Big Daddy
What?
00:10:28
Ryne
Fool me once. Can't get fooled again.
00:10:31
Big Daddy
Yeah, old saying, down in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas. heard it's in Tennessee.
00:10:39
Cokeley Brothers
Jay Cole, how does it go again?
00:10:39
Big Daddy
I'm serious.
00:10:41
Cokeley Brothers
ja Jay, what do they say down Tennessee?
00:10:45
Big Daddy
I will load the chopper and let it rain on you.
00:10:45
Ryne
fool me one time.
00:10:47
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:10:48
Ryne
yeah
00:10:53
Ryne
Oh, man.
00:10:54
Cokeley Brothers
That's right, J. Cole.
00:10:59
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:11:00
Cokeley Brothers
All right. How did we feel about Jax Forrest, Ben DeVino, Marcus Blaze, all these youngins going out there and you know placing three of the top four?
00:11:01
Big Daddy
seriously
00:11:12
Cokeley Brothers
Seth Gross doing what Seth Gross does.
00:11:12
Ryne
Doing well.
00:11:17
Cokeley Brothers
I mean...
00:11:17
Big Daddy
who took third blaze who took fourth devito fifth
00:11:19
Ryne
Blazed it.
00:11:20
Cokeley Brothers
Marcus Blaise took third. Ben Devino.
00:11:26
Ryne
What was the score of that match?
00:11:28
Cokeley Brothers
ah ah Unfortunately, he's covered up by the QR code. Let's see if I can snag it right here. Six to four. ben Benjamin Devino won that.
00:11:38
Cokeley Brothers
Nice. Oh, he got a lot like like a last second takedown and then they tried to challenge it and they lost the challenge. DeSanto beat Tomasello via disqualification.
00:11:47
Big Daddy
He dequeued him.
00:11:49
Cokeley Brothers
ah It appears that there's not a match. There is not a match to watch and there is no scoring sheet. So I'm guessing they just didn't wrestle.
00:11:57
Cokeley Brothers
I guess.
00:12:00
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. Fix obviously didn't wrestle out the backside. Mikael McGee came out and and placed sixth. Okay. Yeah. Who did he lose to on the front side?
00:12:11
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, DeSanto. Okay. Okay. Got teched by DeSanto on the back side or on the front side. And then for fifth, loses doing ten to him Rapid improvement.
00:12:21
Big Daddy
but wait so What do we think happened to Buzakis?
00:12:21
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:12:24
Cokeley Brothers
Right. He got hurt, right?
00:12:27
Ryne
Yeah, I saw...
00:12:27
Cokeley Brothers
Against Tomasello?
00:12:27
Ryne
I did see that one, yes. I did see that one. It looked like it was his knee. He was killing Tomasello. He was absolutely destroying him.
00:12:34
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:12:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I hope he's okay, though.
00:12:39
Ryne
it was his knee.
00:12:40
Cokeley Brothers
Because I like i like ah um like watching Nick Buzakas wrestle. Even if the people...
00:12:45
Big Daddy
Oh.
00:12:46
Cokeley Brothers
I'm going to love it.
00:12:46
Ryne
Are you going to like him wrestling for Pittsburgh next year?
00:12:51
Cokeley Brothers
In the ACC.
00:12:53
Ryne
Did you guys know that Chance Lamer is at Nebraska?
00:12:55
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
00:12:57
Big Daddy
I knew he was in the portal that much I did know.
00:13:00
Ryne
Did you when why didn't you tell us Reese how come you didn't inform the group chat.
00:13:00
Cokeley Brothers
For the second time.
00:13:04
Big Daddy
I just figured you guys knew I didn't want insult your intelligence.
00:13:07
Ryne
oh No, just always just assume we don't because I always assume you guys don't know even though I'm pretty sure you do know.
00:13:13
Cokeley Brothers
don't you Don't you have the like most readily available access to the portal, Ryan?
00:13:13
Ryne
No, I tell you.
00:13:18
Ryne
No.
00:13:19
Cokeley Brothers
Oh. I thought you did.
00:13:21
Ryne
I'm not an NCAA entity.
00:13:24
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, yeah. I guess that's true. So you can't like... It's not a transfer if you go from junior college or from D1 to junior college.
00:13:29
Ryne
No, I can't like. I don't know what that's that's that's all going to change here soon.
00:13:36
Cokeley Brothers
Hmm. So maybe you do get access to the portal.
00:13:37
Ryne
Maybe. We'll see.
00:13:39
Cokeley Brothers
They open it up. They give you a ray gun. They say, Ryan, use this carefully.
00:13:44
Big Daddy
Reagan? Oh,
00:13:45
Cokeley Brothers
Use it on your podcast. Yeah. Like a portal gun.
00:13:49
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I meant. Yeah. Nah. Cod zombies.
00:13:49
Big Daddy
thought you were talking.
00:13:55
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, they're trying to fetch your soul.
00:14:01
Ryne
Fetch me their souls.
00:14:01
Cokeley Brothers
You have no lights on.
00:14:03
Big Daddy
Yeah, what's up with that, dude?
00:14:03
Cokeley Brothers
It's so dark. Yeah.
00:14:08
Ryne
Fetch me their souls.
00:14:10
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:14:11
Big Daddy
OK.
00:14:13
Cokeley Brothers
Jax Forrest, Vito Ruggio. How do you see that happening, Reese?
00:14:16
Big Daddy
That's I was about to ask you. um I don't know. I have no idea. i think – I don't know.
00:14:23
Cokeley Brothers
Here's what I think.
00:14:25
Big Daddy
Yeah, go ahead.
00:14:26
Cokeley Brothers
Here's what I think. Jax Forrest clearly is able to recognize or identify, however you want to call it, right? He's able to see what his opponent is does and what they're good at and understand the situation, understand the position, and find ways to navigate and or counter it.
00:14:43
Cokeley Brothers
I think he did that against Seth Gross, and it was great.
00:14:43
Big Daddy
you I think – Do you think he like had a pre-game preparation for Gross? Because I don't think so. I think he just wrestles.
00:14:50
Cokeley Brothers
think he I think he worked on those positions.
00:14:54
Big Daddy
yeah
00:14:55
Ryne
I think he's just a bad matchup for Seth.
00:14:59
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know the way he it felt like he was cause he kept grabbing the leg every time he went to the mule kick.
00:15:00
Big Daddy
I don't necessarily think he was ready. Like he was ready for the mule kick.
00:15:09
Big Daddy
Yeah, I mean, that's maybe ah just a something that, I mean, lot of people do that.
00:15:12
Ryne
Oh, he game planned for sure, Reese.
00:15:15
Big Daddy
The game plan.
00:15:16
Cokeley Brothers
I think he did, dude.
00:15:16
Ryne
Yes.
00:15:18
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, here's the thing. If I'm getting ready to wrestle Seth gross, I am understanding the, the very niche things that he does.
00:15:20
Ryne
He didn't.
00:15:25
Cokeley Brothers
And I'm, I'm,
00:15:25
Ryne
he's got he He's got the perfect style to game plan against Seth for. you know what i mean?
00:15:29
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:15:30
Ryne
Like...
00:15:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. So I, and I think that makes, I think that's a great skill to have. I think it's to to not have to like, you know, take weeks of practice to, to be able to understand your opponent's position and to be able to just say, I'm getting ready to wrestle this guy.
00:15:42
Big Daddy
So what's the.
00:15:43
Cokeley Brothers
Give me a couple hours.
00:15:45
Big Daddy
What's he game plan for veto?
00:15:47
Cokeley Brothers
If you don't really have one, he's got a couple of things that you get, you got to be aware of, but Vito is pretty dynamic.
00:15:53
Big Daddy
I think veto is not anymore. Any less game planable than Seth minus the, maybe the meal kick, the two on one, would the two on one is the one thing.
00:15:59
Ryne
wrong be I will be shocked if he gets that little slide by on Vito.
00:16:01
Cokeley Brothers
I think it's just his dynamic movement. Vito is able to move more athletically than Seth Gross is.
00:16:09
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:16:13
Ryne
Vito does too good a job of staying in good position, keeping his elbows in.
00:16:18
Cokeley Brothers
You might be right because Vito's got a very good touch.
00:16:19
Big Daddy
Yeah. and He would do that.
00:16:20
Ryne
Seth Gross kind of has a like a wide open stance.
00:16:20
Big Daddy
That's veto game planning.
00:16:21
Cokeley Brothers
His sense for pressure.
00:16:25
Ryne
That's why his elbows are out and he was able to Get to a slide by, get Seth Kirst.
00:16:30
Big Daddy
Yeah. It was kind like later in the match when the, I feel like the wheels kind of just fell off.
00:16:34
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:16:36
Cokeley Brothers
it It was not... its It went in the right direction, and then
Wrestling Techniques and Legacy
00:16:40
Cokeley Brothers
it and then it went in the wrong direction for the rest of the match for Gross.
00:16:43
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:16:45
Cokeley Brothers
He just never got back. But boy, I mean, dude, ah so many of the so many of the things that he did, I was i was like happy to watch, which like he's defending, giving giving up the takedown for so long that he gives gives up a trap arm gut.
00:17:00
Cokeley Brothers
But then he gives...
00:17:04
Cokeley Brothers
He gives up the trap arm one turn to be able to fight off and get his arm out. And I'm like, this is great. This is good wrestling.
00:17:12
Big Daddy
He stays on his back in order to not – is that what you're talking about?
00:17:13
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:17:15
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:17:15
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:17:16
Ryne
Yeah.
00:17:18
Cokeley Brothers
I thought it was great. And I wish, um, I wish we got to see fix and forest and and maybe even fix and gross. Uh, so it sucks to have, uh, yeah.
00:17:27
Big Daddy
We've seen that plenty of times. I want to see Gross and Vito is what I want to see.
00:17:32
Cokeley Brothers
No, no kidding. That would be a pretty good one.
00:17:37
Cokeley Brothers
Well, maybe one day, but not this year.
00:17:44
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:17:45
Ryne
That would be a terrible, terrible match for Seth Gross.
00:17:45
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:17:52
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe.
00:17:53
Big Daddy
Maybe.
00:17:55
Cokeley Brothers
65 kilograms. Joy McKenna. The Cowboy.
00:18:00
Cokeley Brothers
Back-to-back Cowboys.
00:18:00
Ryne
I just...
00:18:01
Ryne
Excuse me, I'm sorry. i just think, you know, the best style against Vito Rujao is, you know, a build and a style like Ono and and Spencer Lee.
00:18:10
Big Daddy
Oh, no.
00:18:14
Cokeley Brothers
ye
00:18:15
Ryne
Squatty, strong,
00:18:17
Cokeley Brothers
Compact.
00:18:19
Ryne
explosive scores and bunches.
00:18:23
Big Daddy
I think Vito makes to make mistakes, though, and getting to, you know, like like with the Sean, how he got there some back and forth exchanges.
00:18:32
Ryne
Yeah, but...
00:18:32
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And it does depend on what veto you get.
00:18:36
Ryne
Nishan also has some familiarity with Vito as well.
00:18:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And, and Nishan has, Nishan has a level of capability that I feel like he doesn't always tap into, which sucks whenever I i see him wrestle a guy like Jax Forrest.
00:18:51
Cokeley Brothers
I'm like, I think you could take it to this guy, but then he, I'm now.
00:18:54
Big Daddy
i don't know. think he's just past that point.
00:18:58
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. I mean, maybe, maybe he didn't, maybe that's just what he wasn't working on or maybe things are in the past for him. Obviously they already retired, but yeah. I just remember why watching him wrestle.
00:19:06
Ryne
Oh, Nashawn retired too.
00:19:09
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Watching him wrestle um Cologne and that in that best of three series. I'm like, this guy can wrestle everybody that's that's at his weight. He can take down all of them.
00:19:21
Ryne
What could have been? Man, he might what he might have won a world championship that year.
00:19:25
Cokeley Brothers
He might have.
00:19:26
Cokeley Brothers
He really might have. Yeah. 2018,
00:19:26
Ryne
Colon was bronze.
00:19:29
Big Daddy
Was that 2017?
00:19:29
Ryne
Nashawn might have won it.
00:19:29
Big Daddy
Who won that?
00:19:30
Ryne
18? 18? eighteen
00:19:32
Cokeley Brothers
believe. believe
00:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, I believe 2018.
00:19:39
Big Daddy
Who won that?
00:19:39
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, Cologne had a cologne had a ah ah rib breaker a gut.
00:19:39
Big Daddy
Rashid Hub or I don't know, 61. Was that Rodriguez?
00:19:45
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
00:19:46
Big Daddy
Moni Rodriguez?
00:19:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yowles, when he beat Rashidov?
00:19:48
Big Daddy
Was that 2018?
00:19:51
Big Daddy
that twenty eight
00:19:51
Cokeley Brothers
think that was 2018, yeah. I want to say you're right.
00:19:57
Ryne
Yeah, Nishan. Gotta beat both those dudes.
00:20:03
Big Daddy
Yeah. That
00:20:04
Cokeley Brothers
would have been tough.
00:20:05
Ryne
He could beat Rashidov.
00:20:07
Cokeley Brothers
Rashida was a beast, especially when he went up to 65. He was good.
00:20:13
Cokeley Brothers
He was good. Okay, speaking of 65, let's move on up. Joey McKenna. 3-2 over Jesse Mendez.
00:20:17
Ryne
Commies.
00:20:23
Big Daddy
yeah
00:20:23
Cokeley Brothers
I cannot believe that he did not give give up a takedown in that quad pod for almost a minute.
00:20:31
Big Daddy
that was impressive.
00:20:33
Ryne
Strong core.
00:20:34
Cokeley Brothers
and and the difference maker. Dude, not just the core, your shoulders. Your shoulders are on fire after that.
00:20:40
Big Daddy
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was like worried. I was like, man, how was he going to feel after that?
00:20:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:20:46
Ryne
he's got he He's got pretty broad, strong shoulders, though. You
00:20:50
Cokeley Brothers
Clearly, yeah. I mean... and and ah Willie said it on on on his recap with Bash that this didn't look like the best version of Joey McKenna, and I think I agree.
00:20:56
Ryne
can tell just fucking me.
00:21:03
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, he had a barn burner match with Aiden Valencia, and I think he can widen the gap against Mendes. I think he can he can put together more takedowns, more scoring opportunities than just a 3-2 match.
00:21:15
Ryne
I think Aiden Valencia is the future of the white class.
00:21:19
Cokeley Brothers
Do you see Jesse Mendes moving up?
00:21:22
Ryne
No, I just see Aiden Valencia being really good when he gets older.
00:21:26
Cokeley Brothers
You see him being better?
00:21:28
Ryne
I just do. I don't know. I just ah see something in the kid.
00:21:33
Cokeley Brothers
and Okay. Okay.
00:21:35
Big Daddy
beat So he took third. He beat Real twice. well
00:21:41
Big Daddy
Real beat Bo.
00:21:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. 5-3 on the backside and five four on the frontside.
00:21:44
Big Daddy
Nine to eight. Man, I need to watch that match.
00:21:46
Cokeley Brothers
Teched Carter Young who beat Vince Cornella.
00:21:46
Big Daddy
Bartlett and Mike.
00:21:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yao, 9-8. Bartlett losing to Woods. Wow. yeah Some really good backside matches here.
00:21:56
Ryne
Is Vince healthy?
00:21:58
Cokeley Brothers
um I would assume yes
00:22:04
Cokeley Brothers
given the year off that he just had.
00:22:06
Ryne
does he did he see I didn't get to watch him any of his matches. Did he seem healthy, I guess is my question.
00:22:11
Cokeley Brothers
i didn't get to watch, i didn't get to watch any of his wrestling either. So, but I'm going to say yes.
00:22:23
Big Daddy
So yes, you know what I hate?
00:22:24
Cokeley Brothers
Yes. Okay.
00:22:27
Big Daddy
I'm going to say this right now. I hate when my Ben and Jerry's half baked ice cream has more has way too many.
00:22:33
Ryne
God, that's the best.
00:22:38
Big Daddy
The ratio.
00:22:38
Ryne
Brownies and not enough cookie dough.
00:22:41
Big Daddy
No, too much cookie dough, not brownies. That's what I hate. And the brownies so are always like sometimes the brownies are amazing. Sometimes not so much.
00:22:52
Cokeley Brothers
Sometimes made the grid.
00:22:52
Ryne
What do you mean? How are they not amazing ever?
00:22:54
Big Daddy
distance right What?
00:22:56
Ryne
They're always amazing. They're literally always amazing.
00:22:57
Cokeley Brothers
sometimes they're Sometimes they're made in a different factory.
00:22:57
Big Daddy
Dude, sometimes they're not soft. Sometimes they're not soft and chewy like they're supposed to be. Sometimes they're like like crumbly.
00:23:05
Cokeley Brothers
Different factory. and
00:23:05
Ryne
That's OK.
00:23:08
Big Daddy
I think it's just the trip to the...
00:23:10
Cokeley Brothers
Different factory.
00:23:12
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:23:13
Ryne
Shut up, Sammy.
00:23:13
Big Daddy
Anyway.
00:23:15
Cokeley Brothers
It's a different factory.
00:23:17
Ryne
You're a different factory.
00:23:17
Cokeley Brothers
You know, I think speaking of factories and where, where food food is made that people like, I think Kansas has like a really good Cheez-It factory that people rave about.
00:23:30
Cokeley Brothers
They say, if you get, if you get Cheez-Its with this cereal number on it, you're getting it from this factory in Kansas and they make the best Cheez-Its.
00:23:36
Big Daddy
Aren't Cheez-Its like banned in the European Union and or in other countries?
00:23:40
Ryne
No, wait, Rish, stop.
00:23:41
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
00:23:42
Ryne
ah Go back to Sammy's thing. What are you talking about, Sammy? Where did you hear this?
00:23:45
Cokeley Brothers
People, so this is a thing with, with I mean, i I don't know, Instagram or something. I don't know. But like people do this with Takis. People do this with Cheez-Its and all of the other foods that are mass produced.
00:24:00
Cokeley Brothers
they will They will start to uncover patterns in like different boxes. And and they'll yeah they'll understand, okay, this box with this cereal number, you can track it back to this factory. and And they make it in a certain way. They have they get a certain ah you know input of ingredients and it makes it makes the the product different. And so I like getting mine from this factory.
00:24:23
Cokeley Brothers
And they these taste the best. So I'm only going to look for this cereal number on my box of Cheez-Its.
00:24:29
Big Daddy
Interesting.
00:24:30
Ryne
Interesting.
00:24:31
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. People are that crazy about their processed foods.
00:24:37
Ryne
Well, if it tastes better, then it tastes better, Sammy. Like, what the fuck do you know?
00:24:40
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:24:40
Big Daddy
I don't ah know.
00:24:41
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, I just want to see your eyes, dude. I just want you to look up at the camera and like talk to us instead of being on your phone or whatever you're doing.
00:24:48
Ryne
I'm doing it all.
00:24:50
Big Daddy
She's doing it at all.
00:24:51
Cokeley Brothers
Doing live.
00:24:52
Ryne
im working I'm working two jobs.
00:24:54
Cokeley Brothers
All right.
00:24:55
Big Daddy
Joey McKenna. So how do we feel about Joey McKenna as a world as our world rep?
00:25:01
Cokeley Brothers
Well, he's got a he's going to have somebody. Who do you think he has? Does he have Aiden Valencia, Jesse Mendes, Bo Bartlett, Real Woods?
00:25:07
Ryne
Ooh, probably Mendez right now, but could be Valencia. Valencia's getting good.
00:25:12
Cokeley Brothers
Could be Bosev.
00:25:12
Big Daddy
Could be Bartlett.
00:25:13
Cokeley Brothers
Could be Bosev.
00:25:14
Big Daddy
Could be Real Woods.
00:25:16
Ryne
Bartlett, dude.
00:25:17
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think any of them are separated from each other, including McKenna.
00:25:19
Ryne
What about Stanich?
00:25:20
Cokeley Brothers
Less McKenna.
00:25:22
Ryne
Let's segue. segue over
00:25:24
Cokeley Brothers
I like that. I like that. U20s.
00:25:26
Ryne
U20s.
00:25:27
Cokeley Brothers
Luke Stanich.
00:25:27
Ryne
a let's stay on sixty five kilos but segue over to you twenty s
00:25:33
Cokeley Brothers
Let me pull the bracket while you're talking.
00:25:35
Big Daddy
Rudy beat in the finals.
00:25:37
Ryne
Pearson van Manville 6-0.
00:25:40
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Pearson had a weekend.
00:25:40
Big Daddy
He's good, dude. He's a stud.
00:25:42
Ryne
Pearson also looked good this weekend. But Luke Stanish looked amazing. And I understand that Knox teched his way through it. And he 100% deserved the OW. But personally, I would have given it to Stanish.
00:25:57
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:25:57
Ryne
I'm not mad that Knox got it.
00:25:59
Ryne
don't you know Congratulations to Knox. I'm a big fan. Don't get me wrong. Personally, I just would have given it to Luke Stanish.
00:26:07
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he and his dad will beat you up, buddy. Watch your mouse.
00:26:09
Ryne
No, they won't. No.
00:26:11
Cokeley Brothers
um
00:26:13
Ryne
I'm too far away.
00:26:15
Cokeley Brothers
Can't reach me. Luke Stanich wins 8-8 over Daniel Zepeda in the quarters, beats Bo Bassett 5-2 in the semis, and then wins 6-0 in the finals over Pearson Manville.
00:26:25
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And, dude...
00:26:26
Ryne
Zepeda Bassett Manville, dude.
00:26:27
Cokeley Brothers
The people the people on the internet are like, yeah, I expect a college guy to beat up on some high schoolers.
00:26:29
Ryne
That's a run.
00:26:35
Cokeley Brothers
It's an age group tournament, you idiot.
00:26:39
Ryne
Yeah, and we're talking about Bo Bassett.
00:26:40
Big Daddy
Yen Demi
00:26:41
Ryne
He's trans transcendent.
00:26:46
Cokeley Brothers
Transcendent.
00:26:47
Big Daddy
Transcendental
00:26:47
Ryne
He's transcendent.
00:26:50
Cokeley Brothers
No kidding.
00:26:51
Ryne
He's transcendent. He's transcendent.
00:26:55
Cokeley Brothers
Uh... Yeah, I don't know. That's that that's such a dumb argument. and And it pisses me off because people are like, of course Bo Bassett's going to beat up on high schoolers. He's 20. Oh, of course Luke Stanich is going to beat up on Bo Bassett. He's in college versus a high schooler. It's like, pick a pick a side.
00:27:10
Cokeley Brothers
Pick a side and then shut up.
00:27:10
Ryne
Pick a lane Pick a lane
00:27:13
Big Daddy
You tell them.
00:27:15
Cokeley Brothers
it's It's just frustrating. It's frustrating to hear people and their nonsense. so
00:27:19
Big Daddy
Tell them.
00:27:20
Cokeley Brothers
So Luke Stanich, I think he's a threat at 141 next year.
00:27:26
Big Daddy
did. They did.
00:27:28
Cokeley Brothers
Now, he did get majored by Mendez.
00:27:29
Ryne
Lehi Lehi is looking Lehi has a good little one two three there
00:27:34
Cokeley Brothers
Their 1-2-3 is really good. and then they got so they got Sheldon Seymour, Ryan Crocom, Luke Stanich, and then they have Kelvin Griffin and Logan Rosinski, who are two national qualifiers.
00:27:43
Big Daddy
Where's Brynola?
00:27:44
Cokeley Brothers
Brick Null is at 65, and he's an All-American level guy.
00:27:46
Big Daddy
Oh.
00:27:47
Cokeley Brothers
And then you have... Uh, Rylan Rogers, Rylan Rogers, Caden Rogers, JT Davis. Those are all qualifier caliber guys. Maybe they can improve. And then Nathan Taylor is an all American level guy, maybe a title contender.
00:27:58
Cokeley Brothers
So they, that, that, that is a team that I do not want to be faced up against.
00:27:59
Big Daddy
Let's stop him at least.
00:28:04
Cokeley Brothers
If I'm at national duels, that's a good team.
00:28:05
Big Daddy
Woo!
00:28:08
Cokeley Brothers
It's a really good team.
00:28:09
Ryne
that's ah That's the reason why Penn State's not going to national duels right there.
00:28:12
Cokeley Brothers
And I, and I say that with a lot of resentment for that team. I don't like them.
00:28:18
Cokeley Brothers
I never will.
00:28:18
Big Daddy
He doesn't like him.
00:28:18
Ryne
Why? Why not?
00:28:20
Cokeley Brothers
Them, Princeton, Purdue, they can all kick rocks.
00:28:21
Big Daddy
I don't like him either.
00:28:27
Ryne
I've always liked Lehigh.
00:28:30
Cokeley Brothers
I respect them. I don't like them.
00:28:35
Big Daddy
Would you rather be respected and disliked or
00:28:35
Ryne
You haven't. Dad made me watch this documentary on John Trench. Never since, I've always liked Lehigh.
00:28:44
Big Daddy
I watch that probably with you.
00:28:49
Cokeley Brothers
Congratulations.
00:28:50
Big Daddy
Thanks, bro.
00:28:51
Cokeley Brothers
I am going to move on to 70 kilos with ah my favorite champion of the weekend.
00:28:56
Big Daddy
answer my question.
00:28:57
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:28:57
Ryne
PJ Duke?
00:28:59
Cokeley Brothers
What about him?
00:29:02
Ryne
How's your favorite champion of the weekend?
00:29:04
Cokeley Brothers
No, Yanni Diakamohalos. Reese, what's your question?
00:29:07
Ryne
Oh, you're back on seniors.
00:29:09
Big Daddy
Would you rather be respected and disliked or liked and not respected?
00:29:15
Cokeley Brothers
Disliked and respected.
00:29:17
Ryne
Interesting.
00:29:20
Ryne
Can I pick liked and respected?
00:29:21
Cokeley Brothers
Well, I mean, he didn't list one of those as an option, Ryan.
00:29:23
Ryne
me
00:29:24
Big Daddy
It's not an option.
00:29:28
Big Daddy
I didn't give you that option.
00:29:30
Cokeley Brothers
Better luck next time. Nerd.
00:29:32
Ryne
Then can I.
00:29:38
Ryne
just not have friends. just don't I just choose not to talk to anyone. How about that?
00:29:44
Big Daddy
And you're respected.
00:29:50
Ryne
No, no, no, no. i'm I'm choosing not to talk to anyone.
00:29:52
Cokeley Brothers
Nice job.
00:29:54
Ryne
It's not them choosing not to talk to me. I'm choosing to ignore them, okay?
00:30:00
Big Daddy
So you don't respect them.
00:30:02
Ryne
Yes.
00:30:05
Ryne
But I like them.
00:30:05
Big Daddy
Okay. Okay. But you do like them.
00:30:10
Big Daddy
Look at those bars, Sammy. On your little thing there.
00:30:15
Ryne
Yeah, why is Sammy so loud?
00:30:15
Big Daddy
Why are your bars so much so much bigger than ours?
00:30:19
Cokeley Brothers
What?
00:30:21
Big Daddy
Like, look that. Look how much bigger your little sound bars are.
00:30:22
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, what did I do? I'm sorry.
00:30:26
Ryne
No, it's always been.
00:30:26
Big Daddy
They're so much bigger than ours.
00:30:27
Ryne
It's like that. It's like that every episode, Sammy.
00:30:30
Cokeley Brothers
um I'm sorry.
00:30:30
Big Daddy
I know.
00:30:31
Big Daddy
Why?
00:30:33
Cokeley Brothers
can we get back to the wrestling brothers?
00:30:35
Big Daddy
I got to answer my question.
00:30:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. And they'll be balanced later. Okay.
00:30:43
Big Daddy
Thank
00:30:44
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:30:46
Cokeley Brothers
70 kilos. Yanni Diakamohalis wins the bracket. He wins the tournament. He takes out James Green in the finals.
00:30:53
Ryne
Dude, he just absolutely decked Bryce Andonian.
00:30:57
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:30:58
Ryne
Thanks for not letting me watch it live, though, Sammy.
00:30:58
Big Daddy
you.
00:30:58
Cokeley Brothers
and
00:31:01
Ryne
You... Nothing. think Never mind.
00:31:04
Cokeley Brothers
That's what I thought. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Otherwise, me and Anthony Knox will be paying you a visit.
00:31:11
Cokeley Brothers
how did we How did we feel about Yanni's performance in the match needing to go out and get a score with you know not much time left and not showing much potential to score until actually locking his hands around the leg?
00:31:30
Big Daddy
You look good.
00:31:33
Big Daddy
Finish was good. Good finish.
00:31:35
Cokeley Brothers
He always finishes. He always finishes and he always finishes well. I'm never worried about that. I'm always worried about him actually getting to his shots. And James Green at 65 kilos couldn't stop his offense, but at 70 kilos he could.
00:31:47
Cokeley Brothers
ah It's different James Green.
00:31:48
Big Daddy
is a different, different to James Green. No, less, less Yami.
00:31:50
Cokeley Brothers
It's also a different Yanni Diakmojlis.
00:31:53
Big Daddy
Yeah, that's less, but that's a less Yami thing than the, yeah.
00:31:54
Ryne
Same beast, but different animal.
00:31:58
Cokeley Brothers
Less Yanni, more James is what you're saying.
00:32:00
Big Daddy
I mean, yeah, that's that's what the ah that's what the history would tell you with James Green.
00:32:05
Cokeley Brothers
Right. I would think physiologically it's more of both.
00:32:10
Big Daddy
Well, I'm just saying based on James Green's results at 65 kilos versus 70, it's a different, much different guy.
00:32:12
Ryne
Well...
00:32:18
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you. Okay. All right. um Backside here. Ian Parker takes third. We said that earlier. Willow on fourth.
00:32:29
Cokeley Brothers
Andonian fifth. And Brayton Lee sixth. Oh, it's 14 to 11 that Andonian beat Brayton Lee. Ian Parker beat Bryce Andonian. was the score of that match? Seven to six.
00:32:41
Cokeley Brothers
Very, a very quiet match.
00:32:43
Big Daddy
I
00:32:46
Ryne
For Bryce Hendonian.
00:32:46
Cokeley Brothers
Interesting. Interesting. Yeah.
00:32:49
Ryne
A loud match for Ian Parker.
00:32:53
Cokeley Brothers
No kidding.
00:32:53
Ryne
but the
00:32:53
Cokeley Brothers
Considering his match, the round before was a 4-4 criteria win over Yaya Thomas.
00:32:54
Ryne
what Wasn't he kind of... Yeah, isn't he kind of Well, Yaya is also like...
00:33:01
Cokeley Brothers
And then a 2-1 win over Will Luan.
00:33:05
Cokeley Brothers
Quiet.
00:33:09
Cokeley Brothers
Jaden Ironman, is he retired?
00:33:12
Ryne
I don't think so.
00:33:12
Big Daddy
Yeah, he's been arrested in a while.
00:33:15
Ryne
But I think he plans, think he plans on wrestling.
00:33:16
Cokeley Brothers
I haven't seen him wrestle.
00:33:21
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. 74 kilos. Mitchell Mezenbrink. Tech fall 16-6 over David Carr.
00:33:30
Ryne
Called it.
00:33:31
Cokeley Brothers
Is it...
00:33:35
Big Daddy
No.
00:33:35
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. what do you do What do you do with this result and the du the Takatani results? And...
00:33:40
Big Daddy
You... You say ah David Carr can win that match.
00:33:43
Ryne
Takatani is Takatani is Takatani, first of all.
00:33:48
Big Daddy
What?
00:33:50
Ryne
Takatani, he's hot and cold. You just never know what Takatani you're going to get. Are
00:33:54
Big Daddy
i't I don't know. What? I don't know. Based on 10 matches.
00:33:58
Ryne
you going to get the Takatani that tech followed Kyle Dake? are you going to get the Takatani that got pinned by...
00:34:02
Cokeley Brothers
Never act they protect him.
00:34:05
Ryne
whatever. Not Tech Kyle Dake, but destroyed him?
00:34:07
Big Daddy
He got caught and pinned by Jamilov.
00:34:11
Ryne
He didn't get caught in pen.
00:34:11
Big Daddy
By Jamalaw.
00:34:11
Cokeley Brothers
By Jamilov.
00:34:14
Big Daddy
He got jammed.
00:34:14
Cokeley Brothers
I... um
00:34:17
Ryne
He didn't get caught though.
00:34:19
Big Daddy
He didn't get caught? He got jammed, bro.
00:34:21
Ryne
Jamalov. Jamalov. Jamalov does that to everybody.
00:34:23
Cokeley Brothers
Jammed him up.
00:34:24
Ryne
He loves jamming people.
00:34:25
Cokeley Brothers
Jamilov jammed him up.
00:34:27
Big Daddy
He doesn't do it to everybody.
00:34:27
Ryne
Jam.
00:34:28
Big Daddy
He shouldn't have even been there.
00:34:28
Cokeley Brothers
get get Get ready to meet my friend Jelly.
00:34:28
Ryne
He jammy jammed him.
00:34:32
Ryne
ja Jammy jammed him. He just got jammed.
00:34:34
Big Daddy
He got Jeremy jammed. You got jammed.
00:34:37
Ryne
He got jammed.
00:34:39
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, so it's like a, there's about a 95% likelihood that we are going to have one of Mitchell Mezenbrink or David Carr be our world rep at 74 kilos. How do you feel about either of them at Worlds?
00:34:52
Big Daddy
I like David Carr better.
00:34:52
Ryne
I'm telling you, I'm telling I'm telling you, Jordan Burroughs is coming out retirement.
00:35:00
Big Daddy
To 74? Yeah,
00:35:02
Ryne
Yeah.
00:35:03
Cokeley Brothers
You're out of your mind.
00:35:05
Big Daddy
yeah why would you even say that?
00:35:06
Cokeley Brothers
Is he even qualified? Can he can he go to the trials?
00:35:10
Ryne
Why wouldn't he be able to?
00:35:11
Cokeley Brothers
Because he doesn't wrestle this way.
00:35:12
Big Daddy
He's got a lifetime qualification membership.
00:35:14
Cokeley Brothers
he's got the He's got the golden ticket.
00:35:17
Big Daddy
Yep.
00:35:17
Ryne
They used to have that.
00:35:20
Cokeley Brothers
That's dumb. That's crazy.
00:35:22
Big Daddy
ah What do you mean they used to have that?
00:35:22
Ryne
It used to be a thing. You used to, if you made an Olympic or world team, you were automatically qualified for any Olympic or poor world a team trial.
00:35:31
Big Daddy
For life?
00:35:32
Cokeley Brothers
wherever Forever.
00:35:32
Ryne
and Forever.
00:35:35
Cokeley Brothers
So some of them are still qualified. it.
00:35:37
Ryne
No, not anymore. I don't know.
00:35:38
Cokeley Brothers
Run it.
00:35:39
Cokeley Brothers
run it
00:35:39
Ryne
They didn't get great.
00:35:41
Ryne
They got rid of the rule.
00:35:41
Cokeley Brothers
Mako, Mako, get out there.
00:35:44
Ryne
They probably would let them, though. Let's be honest.
00:35:47
Cokeley Brothers
Right. He said, I didn't take off my shoes.
00:35:50
Ryne
You didn't see me take off my shoes, did you?
00:35:50
Big Daddy
Like that matters.
00:35:53
Cokeley Brothers
ah Okay. So you, Reese, you said that you think you like car more than Mezenbrink at the world level.
00:35:58
Big Daddy
Yes.
00:35:59
Cokeley Brothers
I think I agree with you. Can we talk about why?
00:36:02
Big Daddy
I think Carr has better match tactics, and I think his style is suited better for foreigners.
00:36:11
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, do you think... So Mitchell Mesenbrink clearly ah takes wrestling and turns into a war of attrition, and it works very effectively against American wrestlers. Do you think he's going to have the same efficacy at the senior level with that?
00:36:23
Cokeley Brothers
At the the international competition?
00:36:27
Ryne
Depends on the country.
00:36:29
Cokeley Brothers
Okay,
00:36:29
Cokeley Brothers
Jamalov.
00:36:29
Big Daddy
I think probably 90% of the guys that he's going to do that to them on the world stage.
00:36:34
Ryne
Jamalov, I think he destroys Jamalov. Mitchell Messenbrink.
00:36:38
Cokeley Brothers
Siddharov.
00:36:38
Big Daddy
yeah That's crazy.
00:36:39
Big Daddy
He is not. How do you, how has he destroyed?
00:36:40
Ryne
Sitikov, no. I don't think Sitikov beats Mitchell Messenbrink.
00:36:44
Cokeley Brothers
Takatani.
00:36:47
Ryne
Messenbrink probably destroys Takatani.
00:36:51
Cokeley Brothers
I think I disagree with that one.
00:36:53
Big Daddy
no, no.
00:36:54
Cokeley Brothers
Considering the guy from the guy that beat him at you twenty three Worlds, right?
00:36:59
Ryne
I think he destroys that guy if he wrestles him again.
00:36:59
Big Daddy
beat Massenbrink?
00:37:02
Cokeley Brothers
you think do you think something's changed in the last calendar year?
00:37:08
Big Daddy
I think that match is definitely a winnable match for Massenbrink, and break and it could probably it could probably be winnable by a technical fall.
00:37:08
Cokeley Brothers
Really? Really?
00:37:15
Cokeley Brothers
I think he think he massively overextends in his matches and that foreign competition is is more tuned to counteract that, to to take advantage of it.
00:37:17
Ryne
you, Reese.
00:37:31
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:37:32
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, what are you queuing up in right now Are you queuing up in Fortnite on your PlayStation? Yeah.
00:37:37
Ryne
I'm not cheering up on anything.
00:37:39
Cokeley Brothers
I think you are. Show me your hands.
00:37:40
Ryne
I can't.
00:37:43
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:37:43
Ryne
It's bread.
00:37:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. you know put Now bring the controller up. I saw it earlier.
00:37:46
Big Daddy
Yeah. Cheese it.
00:37:47
Ryne
I'm eating bread.
00:37:48
Big Daddy
No.
00:37:49
Ryne
No, it's bread. It's from my dinner.
00:37:52
Big Daddy
What are you playing there?
00:37:54
Ryne
I'm not playing anything yet. That's
00:37:56
Cokeley Brothers
about a belief?
00:38:00
Big Daddy
Yeah, Dovaliev, terrible matchup for Messenbrief.
00:38:01
Ryne
a close match. next That's a coin toss.
00:38:05
Cokeley Brothers
And then I, he probably does he, does he destroy the Iranian?
00:38:06
Big Daddy
He is going to get outfoxed.
00:38:12
Ryne
Hopefully if we'll get tired He would also get tired
00:38:15
Cokeley Brothers
what if little What if little Yaz comes up to 74 kilos? Is he going to wrestle Mezenbrink? Is that going to go well? Okay.
00:38:22
Big Daddy
He beat Liliaz for sure, I think.
00:38:24
Cokeley Brothers
Little Yaz. is he Do you think Mitchell cuts a lot of weight for 74 kilos?
00:38:30
Big Daddy
No.
00:38:32
Cokeley Brothers
Does he just look regular size? Like 170 pounds walking around
00:38:37
Big Daddy
Maybe. Maybe. i mean, yeah, probably.
00:38:38
Ryne
Maybe 175
00:38:39
Big Daddy
i Yeah, i don't think he's that tall. I think he's probably as tall as me.
00:38:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it does not look tall at all.
00:38:43
Ryne
No.
00:38:45
Cokeley Brothers
He looks broad.
00:38:45
Ryne
He's my height.
00:38:48
Cokeley Brothers
Ryan, what do you say when you say that word?
00:38:50
Ryne
He's 5'10".
00:38:52
Cokeley Brothers
say Say the word that you just said, though.
00:38:53
Big Daddy
Hey. Hey.
00:38:54
Ryne
He's my height.
00:38:56
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, that's just wrong. That's just wrong.
00:38:58
Ryne
He's my height.
00:38:59
Big Daddy
Hey, grammar police over here.
00:39:01
Ryne
What? Height? He's my height.
00:39:02
Cokeley Brothers
Height.
00:39:04
Ryne
That's what said the second time. Height.
00:39:08
Ryne
I didn't say height.
00:39:09
Cokeley Brothers
It's like...
00:39:09
Ryne
I said height. at height
00:39:10
Cokeley Brothers
I'm moving on. I'm moving on to the next weight. We can.
00:39:14
Big Daddy
Oh,
00:39:16
Cokeley Brothers
Okay.
00:39:17
Big Daddy
I would say this.
00:39:17
Cokeley Brothers
I'm lowing.
00:39:19
Big Daddy
Well, actually, nevermind. Well, I guess I'll just save it for a later podcast. podcast
00:39:23
Cokeley Brothers
Well, no. Okay. Actually, I'll ask this question because we're going to see car and made mezen brink wrestle in a series. Most likely pretty well guaranteed. What do you think? but do you expect?
00:39:35
Big Daddy
Give me – I mean I'd like to see Carr win. I think the Carr – the match I feel like was going Carr's way until that step out.
00:39:47
Big Daddy
um And then he gave up ah gave up a four, which is unlike him.
00:39:48
Cokeley Brothers
all takes one point
00:39:50
Ryne
Yeah, but how do you let yeah, how do you let a step out change the momentum that that much?
00:39:55
Big Daddy
Well, I don't know. I mean the four obviously was a – if that – if the step out wasn't the momentum changer, the four was.
00:40:02
Ryne
The four was yes, I agree. i will agree with that for sure.
00:40:08
Big Daddy
And that was ah pretty uncharacteristic of Carr. And then he gave up another four, even more uncharacteristic of me, trying to test chest wrap him, which is crazy.
00:40:19
Big Daddy
What a crazy thing to do.
00:40:20
Ryne
Well, I think he was frustrated because he gave up that first four.
00:40:23
Big Daddy
Yeah, that's how that's kind of how I feel too. I feel like the wheels, yeah, he got kind of flustered for sure.
00:40:25
Cokeley Brothers
You can't get flustered.
00:40:30
Cokeley Brothers
You can't. You just can't, though. You can't get flustered in those situations.
00:40:32
Ryne
Sammy, I've seen you get flustered so much.
00:40:35
Cokeley Brothers
Right. and And guess what, Ryan? I'm sitting here recording a podcast. I didn't just get done wrestling at the U.S. Open Finals. Okay? If I'm in the U.S. Open Finals, I'm not getting flustered.
00:40:45
Big Daddy
So you say from your chair.
00:40:46
Ryne
Yeah, so you say.
00:40:48
Cokeley Brothers
From my chair. I'm not getting flustered.
00:40:50
Ryne
You're probably getting more flustered.
00:40:50
Cokeley Brothers
No thoughts in here.
00:40:51
Ryne
The only time I didn't see you get flustered was against Wyatt Sheets. Congratulations. at fargo That was a good job.
00:40:57
Cokeley Brothers
Thank you.
00:40:57
Ryne
should have There's a couple of times i would have been flustered in that match, but you didn't get flustered, and I was proud of you.
00:41:03
Cokeley Brothers
yeah I was in the flow state. um
00:41:07
Big Daddy
What would have flustered you?
00:41:11
Big Daddy
Right.
00:41:13
Ryne
um I think I would have been a little bit worried that they were going to give him two at the end of the match.
00:41:21
Big Daddy
You
00:41:22
Cokeley Brothers
they didn't i knew I looked at the refs. I winked and they were like, yeah, I got you. So, okay, thanks.
00:41:27
Big Daddy
he said I'll burn your house down.
00:41:28
Ryne
So he went wah wah.
00:41:30
Cokeley Brothers
honest
00:41:33
Cokeley Brothers
Now, you made it weird. 79 kilos.
00:41:36
Ryne
I saw it. You did it. It's on camera.
00:41:38
Cokeley Brothers
Evan Wick 9-1 over Dean Hammity.
00:41:44
Ryne
WIC looked good.
00:41:44
Big Daddy
Nine to one.
00:41:48
Ryne
A couple of Wisconsin wisconsin Badger All-Americans going at it.
00:41:48
Cokeley Brothers
Now,
00:41:49
Big Daddy
Let that wink burn.
00:41:54
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:41:54
Cokeley Brothers
i got i got ah I got a question for you guys.
00:41:58
Big Daddy
165U, Wisconsin.
00:42:00
Cokeley Brothers
we're gonna
00:42:01
Ryne
Also, 165 transfer you.
00:42:01
Cokeley Brothers
We're going to see we're going to see ah Dean Hamity have to run through the challenge bracket at World Team Trials.
00:42:04
Big Daddy
but six
00:42:11
Cokeley Brothers
And I don't know if he's going to win it.
00:42:14
Big Daddy
I got a feeling there's going to be a a lot more. There are going be some new challengers at that tribe.
00:42:19
Cokeley Brothers
oh I even think with just the challengers at the U.S. Open, he wouldn't win it.
00:42:25
Big Daddy
Who did he beat?
00:42:25
Ryne
Who else is he going to have?
00:42:28
Cokeley Brothers
Simon Ruiz.
00:42:29
Ryne
Well, I know.
00:42:29
Big Daddy
Ooh.
00:42:30
Ryne
Sammy's all high on Simon Reese. Reese, who do you think?
00:42:32
Big Daddy
Did he take third?
00:42:34
Cokeley Brothers
He took third. he had a 9-5 match against Evan Wick. He beat Carson Harshla twice.
00:42:39
Big Daddy
I mean, he's good. I mean, he had a good match.
00:42:40
Cokeley Brothers
He beat Muhammad McBride.
00:42:40
Ryne
Yeah.
00:42:42
Big Daddy
I mean, he was pretty close to, I don't know if he was close to beating him, but he had him like a, the Haynes match.
00:42:46
Cokeley Brothers
he was in on a shot.
00:42:50
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:50
Big Daddy
yes yeah That's what you're talking about. Okay.
00:42:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he in on the shot for it.
00:42:53
Ryne
Is Haynes going to be...
00:42:53
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:42:56
Ryne
Haynes, is he going to be at World Team Trowes?
00:42:59
Cokeley Brothers
Haynes might. Storachi might.
00:43:02
Big Daddy
Yeah, do we think Strachan is 79? He should.
00:43:04
Ryne
No, I think Strachi's going up to 86.
00:43:07
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, where are all the Iowa wrestlers, Ryan? Where are they?
00:43:10
Big Daddy
like him at 86 too.
00:43:13
Big Daddy
is Kennedy? He should wrestle.
00:43:16
Cokeley Brothers
Where's Pat? They're pretty good at freestyle. Yeah.
00:43:20
Ryne
I know what they're doing.
00:43:20
Big Daddy
Iowa is notorious for not letting their dudes wrestle. and
00:43:24
Ryne
I'm not allowed to tell you what they're doing right now.
00:43:27
Cokeley Brothers
he still
00:43:27
Big Daddy
You don't know.
00:43:28
Cokeley Brothers
He had no Jack.
00:43:30
Ryne
Yes, I do.
00:43:30
Cokeley Brothers
He had no Pat. had no Jack.
00:43:32
Ryne
It's called the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
00:43:36
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, that takes two days. What do you do? You got your principles mixed up.
00:43:39
Big Daddy
What are you
00:43:41
Ryne
Yeah, but they you see they ah had those two days set on the same days as the US Open.
00:43:48
Cokeley Brothers
For the US Open. Okay, all right.
00:43:50
Ryne
so It was the only days they could get into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
00:43:52
Cokeley Brothers
Well,
00:43:55
Cokeley Brothers
Well, you told us. So congratulations. Do it. Okay. Anybody that we could see new challenger wise as 79 kilos that we think could take out Evan wick.
00:44:06
Big Daddy
it wake Yes. Levi Haynes.
00:44:11
Cokeley Brothers
Really? You think so?
00:44:13
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:44:13
Ryne
Shane Griffith.
00:44:14
Big Daddy
Why not? Shane Griffith.
00:44:18
Big Daddy
Probably not going wrestle.
00:44:21
Big Daddy
Carson Garcha.
00:44:24
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:44:27
Big Daddy
Oh, yeah.
00:44:28
Cokeley Brothers
I don't think so.
00:44:28
Ryne
Who'd you say?
00:44:29
Cokeley Brothers
Carson.
00:44:34
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:44:34
Big Daddy
Yeah. Yes.
00:44:36
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:44:37
Big Daddy
Why do you why why you think no?
00:44:41
Big Daddy
He took fourth. He looked good.
00:44:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, I don't think he I think Evan looked really good in comparison to the field. 9-5.
00:44:48
Big Daddy
Well, I mean, he had a close match with Ruiz.
00:44:51
Cokeley Brothers
nine five
00:44:53
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:44:55
Big Daddy
And I think Hart's match is up better.
00:44:58
Ryne
What if Daringer came out of retirement?
00:44:59
Big Daddy
Or maybe worse. I don't know. Yeah, what if Daringer came back?
00:45:03
Cokeley Brothers
I would love it if he did. i bet you that guy is so far away from 79 kilos.
00:45:06
Big Daddy
Why didn't Why didn't David McFadden wrestle?
00:45:10
Cokeley Brothers
It's a great question. It's a really good question.
00:45:11
Ryne
He would you would have won that weight.
00:45:13
Cokeley Brothers
um me get on
00:45:14
Ryne
McFadden would have won it.
00:45:14
Big Daddy
I know.
00:45:15
Cokeley Brothers
I think he was there cutting weight.
00:45:17
Big Daddy
as a I saw him there. I saw him talking to Yen Yenny.
00:45:23
Cokeley Brothers
you know
00:45:28
Big Daddy
I just don't get it, dude. Jason Nolfe, David McFadden. These guys could, I mean, Nolfe, what are you doing, man?
00:45:35
Cokeley Brothers
Vincenzo.
00:45:37
Big Daddy
Vincenzo, what we but are we doing?
00:45:38
Cokeley Brothers
Mark Hall.
00:45:40
Big Daddy
All these guys quit at the worst time.
00:45:44
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. But being in the game for that long can just be exhausting.
00:45:51
Big Daddy
Whatever, dude. I mean, it's not like it's ah so like college.
00:45:57
Big Daddy
I get that you have spoil yourself and all that shit.
00:45:57
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:46:01
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know, man. um i don't i don't blame anybody for wanting to be done with it. and I get it.
00:46:06
Big Daddy
But Nolfe, bro, why would you go that long? Why would you go all the way up into the point where use and then you're like, yeah, I'm done to.
00:46:12
Cokeley Brothers
He got so far.
00:46:16
Cokeley Brothers
But in the end, nothing really mattered.
00:46:19
Big Daddy
Nothing really mattered. You could even stomped everybody this way.
00:46:23
Cokeley Brothers
He Lincoln Parked his career, man.
00:46:23
Big Daddy
given You would have given 2014 another US Open champ. had two two tabs
00:46:32
Cokeley Brothers
Joey.
00:46:34
Big Daddy
snider
00:46:35
Cokeley Brothers
Snyder.
00:46:36
Big Daddy
I'll always have Snyder.
00:46:37
Cokeley Brothers
and Well, he doesn't always rust in the open. Matter of fact, he barely ever does.
00:46:39
Big Daddy
Oh. We'll always have Snyder at some to some degree.
00:46:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. How many years ago?
00:46:44
Big Daddy
so Forever. 100 years.
00:46:48
Cokeley Brothers
Kyle Snyder. Put him in a robot suit. Make his brain keep working.
00:46:54
Big Daddy
He's going to be 50 years old wrestling fucking wrestling. Sorry. Wrestling.
00:47:01
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, let's move up to 86 kilos and get started before the madman comes back.
00:47:10
Cokeley Brothers
Kyle Dake loses to Zahid Valencia 8-4.
00:47:15
Big Daddy
This was a good match.
00:47:17
Cokeley Brothers
This was a really good match.
00:47:19
Big Daddy
So exciting. I was so excited watching this match. So very excited. The whole time, because it's like...
00:47:23
Cokeley Brothers
On the edge of my seat the whole time.
00:47:27
Big Daddy
You know, dude, Zahid... i Every match he's in, I feel like is exciting. Like, if it's a close match, it is going to be exciting. He is going to score early and do something awesome and then potentially blow it. Like, every time it's a close
00:47:46
Cokeley Brothers
You know what I'm always excited about whenever I see Zahid Valencia? The thing where he drops to his knees and slams his hands on the mat when he does that every single match? I'm always excited to see that.
00:47:55
Big Daddy
match.
00:47:57
Cokeley Brothers
And then how you you know how i
00:47:57
Big Daddy
There it is.
00:48:01
Cokeley Brothers
ah ah how he spends a minute and a half every every match on the on his hands and knees?
00:48:07
Big Daddy
That's exciting. It's just that you're like, when's the ref going to hit him?
00:48:11
Cokeley Brothers
When's he going to get him?
00:48:11
Big Daddy
whats like Yeah,
00:48:12
Cokeley Brothers
He came back up. He's backed up. He's in on a shot.
00:48:18
Big Daddy
very exciting.
00:48:19
Cokeley Brothers
No, he is actually exciting to watch.
00:48:21
Big Daddy
Dude, I mean, who does – nobody does what he did to Dake.
00:48:21
Cokeley Brothers
a
00:48:26
Big Daddy
Nobody. Nobody on the planet.
00:48:29
Cokeley Brothers
What is Ryan doing right now?
00:48:31
Big Daddy
He's got a pair of pliers.
00:48:31
Ryne
I'm listening.
00:48:33
Cokeley Brothers
here Are you intentionally? okay. ah No. and
00:48:40
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. There's couple of things to address here. One, Kyle Lake will not be leaving 86 kilos. There's zero chance that that happens. Because his goal is to be an Olympic champion.
00:48:50
Ryne
Is that what people are saying?
00:48:52
Cokeley Brothers
People are like, why doesn't... Well, it's the people who like want a an A1 world team. They're like, 79 kilos is so weak. Why doesn't why doesn't Kyle Dake drop down? Why doesn't Chance Marsteller drop down? why doesn't so like If Chance Marsteller wants to drop down, he might.
00:49:06
Cokeley Brothers
And that's cool. Whatever. Kyle Dake wants to go win an Olympic gold medal. and So wrestling and adjusting to 86 kilograms with the current weigh-in procedures and weight classes is, his his in his mind, his best option.
00:49:19
Cokeley Brothers
So he's going to stay there until... He's done basically. So. Oh yeah.
00:49:24
Ryne
Until they add 79 kilos to the Olympics.
00:49:28
Cokeley Brothers
Then I'm sure he would drop down instantaneously.
00:49:34
Cokeley Brothers
Now with that in mind, Zahid Valencia, Zahid Valencia, every time I watch Zahid wrestle, he looks like a bigger person.
00:49:35
Ryne
Thanks to John Smith.
00:49:41
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know how he continues to do it.
00:49:42
Big Daddy
Yeah. He yeah definitely seems he seems maxed out to me.
00:49:43
Cokeley Brothers
He looked,
00:49:45
Ryne
Cowboy bulk chop.
00:49:47
Cokeley Brothers
he, dude, his like, I don't understand it. It looks like his arms were longer. His, he just, it looked like he was on his hands and knees and he was in like, he was head level with Dake.
00:49:58
Cokeley Brothers
It was weird. It was weird to look at. It looked.
00:50:00
Big Daddy
Dake looked big, I thought.
00:50:00
Ryne
Cowboy, cowboy bulk jump.
00:50:03
Cokeley Brothers
Dake looked thicker. He had like bigger arms and a bigger torso and more filled out. Zahid just looked like, it looked like you had a picture of Zahid and you just blew it up a little bit bigger. It's just.
00:50:13
Big Daddy
Yeah, made his chest looked as big as it's ever looked.
00:50:16
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:50:16
Big Daddy
Freakish.
00:50:16
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:50:17
Big Daddy
He looked freakish.
00:50:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. And, and I'm dude, I, I listened to piles talk about how the weight was not the reason that he beat Kyle Dake.
00:50:31
Cokeley Brothers
And I get, I, I, and I, and do agree to an extent, but the way he was portraying it was that was just infuriating.
00:50:34
Ryne
It's not.
00:50:35
Big Daddy
I kind of agree to an extent too, yeah.
00:50:43
Ryne
That it played no play no role ah what whatsoever.
00:50:43
Cokeley Brothers
And, and,
00:50:47
Ryne
Because
00:50:48
Cokeley Brothers
Right. He, dude, he was giving, obviously, if Kyle Dake is at his comfortable weight and Zahid is pulling down like they have wrestled in the past, he's not going to listen to me.
00:50:50
Ryne
it obviously played a role.
00:50:58
Ryne
So. Challenge. Challenge him, Sammy. Challenge him.
00:51:06
Big Daddy
Yeah, he's never responded to any of my DMs.
00:51:08
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:51:08
Ryne
Challenge challenge him Call him coward.
00:51:12
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe one day.
00:51:12
Ryne
On what... call him a coward
00:51:15
Cokeley Brothers
I'll challenge him when Reese challenges Raider on the Kozak thing.
00:51:16
Big Daddy
retir
00:51:20
Big Daddy
Not Raider, Bray.
00:51:22
Cokeley Brothers
Bray.
00:51:23
Ryne
and
00:51:23
Cokeley Brothers
Bray feels like... i feel i feel less anger whenever Bray misspeaks.
00:51:28
Big Daddy
Well, um I like Bray. I don't have – but I very am very much disappointed in his rankings, his high school rankings.
00:51:30
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:51:37
Big Daddy
They're disappointing as hell.
00:51:39
Cokeley Brothers
Wait, so Bray does or or yeah bredo the rankings, but Raider said that Bray might be the best, right?
00:51:44
Big Daddy
He said he might be the most knowledgeable person in high school wrestling. Like, no one is more in the weeds. That's is what he said. No one is more in the weeds than David Bray.
00:51:52
Ryne
ah there it's there's I think there's behind the scenes stuff going on between Matt Scouts and Flo.
00:52:02
Big Daddy
Dude, Willie... Willie has been cool, like, though... Like to like the flow guys on bash, like for a while now, he's been super cool.
00:52:14
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, he'll he'll call them like nerds and or idiots from time to time and like is like very very chill about it. Honestly, the people the people that ah Willie has been the most aggressive towards are kind of the people in our tier.
00:52:27
Big Daddy
The fans and.
00:52:30
Cokeley Brothers
He's like, you these small-scale podcast people, no, we're not on the radar yet.
00:52:31
Big Daddy
Oh, he's not talking about us.
00:52:36
Cokeley Brothers
We're getting there.
00:52:37
Big Daddy
He's talking about <unk>iliate school affiliated.
00:52:37
Ryne
I don't care.
00:52:38
Cokeley Brothers
One day.
00:52:39
Ryne
I hope he was talking about us. That'd be cool.
00:52:42
Cokeley Brothers
i don't think we're on the radar yet.
00:52:44
Cokeley Brothers
Anyway.
00:52:44
Big Daddy
i mean,
00:52:45
Big Daddy
he's talked specifically he was talking about school affiliated.
00:52:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:48
Ryne
No, I know.
00:52:48
Cokeley Brothers
When when there's when there's like very clear and very well-explained bias.
00:52:53
Ryne
Well, then why doesn't he shit on Bosh?
00:52:54
Cokeley Brothers
Fortunately, he
00:52:58
Cokeley Brothers
he does, but just in a friendly way because they're friends.
00:53:02
Ryne
Well, Bosh...
00:53:03
Cokeley Brothers
So, Baj.
00:53:05
Big Daddy
that now.
00:53:05
Cokeley Brothers
Baj. He keeps drinking his rosé.
00:53:08
Ryne
Bosh.
00:53:08
Cokeley Brothers
He's Baj.
00:53:09
Big Daddy
Baj.
00:53:10
Ryne
He is bosh.
00:53:10
Big Daddy
Bajie.
00:53:12
Cokeley Brothers
I like Justin's interviews. His interviews are great.
00:53:15
Big Daddy
Really?
00:53:16
Cokeley Brothers
Those are...
00:53:16
Ryne
His bitch bad and boshy.
00:53:16
Cokeley Brothers
I'm... um
00:53:22
Cokeley Brothers
I like his interviews and honestly, when they talk about the freestyle stuff and there's not really that college bias, totally fine. It's really that bad.
00:53:31
Cokeley Brothers
Just the college talk is, but
00:53:31
Ryne
There's still that bias.
00:53:32
Ryne
It's still there.
00:53:33
Big Daddy
His bias, you know, you I mean, he picked like, who were his picks? Lilladol?
00:53:38
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, yeah. And it's in his coverage of all of it and is like very
00:53:39
Big Daddy
He's like, you know what? You know what? I'm going to pick Liladol.
00:53:42
Ryne
I heard he picked Brayden Davis too.
00:53:46
Cokeley Brothers
ah over the cops.
00:53:46
Big Daddy
You know what? I'm going pick Brian Davis.
00:53:47
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
00:53:48
Ryne
who
00:53:49
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. yeah I think Brayden Davis wins this race.
00:53:54
Ryne
think Brayden Davis escapes the law.
00:53:55
Cokeley Brothers
think I think Brian Davis is getting out of this arrest.
00:53:59
Big Daddy
His technique of ripping the body cam off of the uniform. That's what I read.
00:54:04
Cokeley Brothers
Did that happen?
00:54:06
Ryne
Yes.
00:54:08
Cokeley Brothers
That's crazy. Damn. Okay.
00:54:13
Ryne
think he's going to be a cowboy?
00:54:13
Big Daddy
What a dog.
00:54:17
Cokeley Brothers
No.
00:54:17
Ryne
Do you think...
00:54:18
Big Daddy
They don't need him. Please go somewhere else. We're going to
00:54:20
Cokeley Brothers
Go somewhere else.
00:54:20
Big Daddy
Yeah, Michigan.
00:54:21
Cokeley Brothers
Go back to Michigan.
00:54:21
Ryne
Where's he going to go?
00:54:23
Cokeley Brothers
Michigan State.
00:54:24
Ryne
Central Michigan.
00:54:25
Cokeley Brothers
Central Michigan.
00:54:26
Big Daddy
Central Michigan.
00:54:27
Cokeley Brothers
Go wrestle with Chandler Omaker.
00:54:30
Big Daddy
Chandler Amaker.
00:54:33
Ryne
oh For those of you that are just now tuning in, Chandler Amaker is today's answer for Gable Game.
00:54:33
Cokeley Brothers
Now.
00:54:39
Big Daddy
Why would you tell him that?
00:54:41
Cokeley Brothers
Well, that's this isn't live, Reef.
00:54:42
Ryne
Because I hate them for not playing already, Reese.
00:54:44
Big Daddy
Oh, that's true.
00:54:44
Cokeley Brothers
And they didn't play today, and it's going to be different tomorrow.
00:54:49
Big Daddy
So it's different in an hour. It changes in an hour.
00:54:50
Ryne
Yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow, it's going to be, I'm going to take a guess right now. Tomorrow, it's going to be, let me think here.
00:54:57
Big Daddy
Patrick Kennedy.
00:55:03
Big Daddy
On Trail Taylor.
00:55:04
Ryne
I'm going, nope, nope, nope. That's not who it's going to be.
00:55:09
Big Daddy
I always pick a Big Ten guy first. Is that what you guys do?
00:55:11
Cokeley Brothers
Mikey Delegata.
00:55:13
Ryne
It's also not who it's going to be.
00:55:14
Big Daddy
What's your strategy?
00:55:16
Ryne
I always pick Carter Starachi first.
00:55:16
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, I pick right Ryan always picks Carter Starachi.
00:55:18
Big Daddy
Pick a big 10 guy.
00:55:20
Cokeley Brothers
I run Vinny Zerbin because he's middle placement, middleweight in a big conference.
00:55:28
Big Daddy
That's what I mean.
00:55:28
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:55:29
Big Daddy
That's generally what i guess what I do.
00:55:30
Cokeley Brothers
That splits it in half and then you can figure it out from there.
00:55:32
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:55:32
Ryne
I start from the top and work my way down.
00:55:36
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:55:37
Cokeley Brothers
Top of the podium.
00:55:38
Ryne
And now I won't ever not guess Carter Strachey first in case you know the day ever comes.
00:55:44
Big Daddy
I picked Diego Santelli.
00:55:44
Cokeley Brothers
Well, it will. There's only 330 wrestlers, and there's more days in a year than that. You get it?
00:55:49
Ryne
I understand how it works, Sammy.
00:55:52
Big Daddy
So will it not do repeats until it goes through all of the wrestlers?
00:55:52
Ryne
So what's going to happen after that?
00:55:55
Cokeley Brothers
Huh? Well, here's the thing, guys. It's been about a month since since the tournament, and like it just started. So, yeah.
00:56:02
Big Daddy
I got a question. Did you answer it? Did you hear it?
00:56:05
Cokeley Brothers
No. No.
00:56:07
Big Daddy
Will it do repeats before it gets through all the wrestlers? No.
00:56:10
Cokeley Brothers
No. And so I answered it. I, cause I said, it's been about a month since NCAA has happened and it just started.
00:56:17
Big Daddy
that this did That's not it. That didn't answer my question.
00:56:19
Ryne
Yeah, it
00:56:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, it does. Yes, it does.
00:56:20
Big Daddy
How does that answer my question?
00:56:22
Cokeley Brothers
Because it will run through 330 wrestlers. Cause there's roughly about when it started,
00:56:25
Big Daddy
My question was, is it is it random or is it on shuffle?
00:56:26
Ryne
does. There's 365 days.
00:56:31
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, it's on shuffle. I, I took the list of IDs and I randomized it and assigned a date to all of them and then put them in the database and then.
00:56:40
Ryne
Why don't you just say that the first time, Reese?
00:56:40
Big Daddy
Okay.
00:56:42
Big Daddy
I thought i ah my question was clear.
00:56:42
Ryne
Why do you always dance around? Why do you always dance around? but he was dance around
00:56:45
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:56:45
Big Daddy
I thought that was
00:56:45
Cokeley Brothers
And like, i don't want to, i don't I don't want to have like 10 instances of Chandler Omicure.
00:56:47
Big Daddy
I thought the question was clear.
00:56:48
Ryne
You know what I think, Reese?
00:56:52
Cokeley Brothers
I don't want that. I want one and then I'm, I can, I can cross them off the list. Done.
00:56:58
Cokeley Brothers
don't have to, don't have to look for Jordan Greer ever again.
00:56:58
Ryne
Except that...
00:57:03
Cokeley Brothers
Luke server.
00:57:04
Ryne
God, that one really got me, and i should it shouldn't have.
00:57:05
Big Daddy
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:07
Ryne
I should have gotten that one so much quicker than seven guesses.
00:57:10
Cokeley Brothers
Zan Fugate, Brendan Furman guessed two Oklahoma state wrestlers. And it's like, I can't figure out who it is.
00:57:17
Ryne
What an idiot.
00:57:18
Big Daddy
What do
00:57:18
Cokeley Brothers
He's, he does not know the sport and that's fine. Okay. Speaking of the sport, let's get back to it. Dake is most likely going to be the guy that Zahid wrestles at final X. It's the best two out of three series.
00:57:30
Cokeley Brothers
What do we think?
00:57:31
Big Daddy
but are we think about welcome David Taylor?
00:57:31
Ryne
I think David Taylor's coming out of retirement again.
00:57:35
Big Daddy
Sorry, son. just sorry so
00:57:38
Cokeley Brothers
We're hitting the hour mark. We're hitting we're hitting the hour. We're losing them. His Fortnite's loaded up. He's ready to go. He's go ready to hit the gritty and get ah get a victory royale.
00:57:44
Ryne
was.
00:57:47
Big Daddy
what are you What are you looking at?
00:57:47
Ryne
a
00:57:48
Big Daddy
Dude, is that a controller in your hand?
00:57:56
Ryne
it was
00:57:58
Cokeley Brothers
Some some things to note on the backside of this bracket. Keck Eisen takes fourth. He loses to Chance Marsteller.
00:58:05
Ryne
What was the score to that match?
00:58:05
Cokeley Brothers
Rucker Welsh. 4-2. Rocco Welsh beats Marcus Coleman for fifth, beating him Chris Moore, who was an Illinois wrestler two seasons ago at 165, he'll be a sophomore.
00:58:15
Ryne
Mm-hmm. Yep. 49, right? Oh, 65. Hmm.
00:58:18
Big Daddy
He'll be a sophomore.
00:58:22
Cokeley Brothers
He was registering this last year. He beats Braden Thompson 9-2 for seventh, who beat Jersey Rob 3-3 to get into placement.
00:58:30
Big Daddy
Ooh.
00:58:31
Ryne
Jersey Robb.
00:58:33
Cokeley Brothers
ah
00:58:33
Big Daddy
Jay-Z, we're up.
00:58:34
Cokeley Brothers
So is that like, wow, Chris Moore is going to be really good? Or is that like, oh, maybe Braden Thompson isn't.
00:58:39
Big Daddy
Chris, I think Chris Moore is going to be, Chris Moore had a really good freshman year.
00:58:42
Ryne
Yeah, he was good his freshman year.
00:58:42
Cokeley Brothers
He had a really good freshman year.
00:58:43
Ryne
Yeah.
00:58:44
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah.
00:58:44
Big Daddy
Yeah.
00:58:45
Cokeley Brothers
And now he's wrestling well at 86 kilos.
00:58:46
Ryne
And, and, and Illinois, and plus, you know, he's got Isaiah Martinez extra large to work out with.
00:58:54
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
00:58:54
Big Daddy
Oh, but but yeah except for he's gone.
00:58:55
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, extra large. I'm our, you strong.
00:58:59
Ryne
Hefty.
00:59:00
Big Daddy
I'm
00:59:01
Ryne
Hefty, hefty, hefty.
00:59:03
Cokeley Brothers
strong right now.
00:59:05
Big Daddy
more left.
00:59:06
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, that's right. He's got Ed Ruth and Ed Ruth.
00:59:10
Ryne
He did?
00:59:11
Cokeley Brothers
He did. He will. He's not on. He's not listed on the the coach roster anymore.
00:59:17
Ryne
We got a fat camp.
00:59:17
Big Daddy
you know Yeah, same.
00:59:17
Cokeley Brothers
got that one from bash as well.
00:59:21
Ryne
You got a fat camp.
00:59:23
Cokeley Brothers
All right. No, we're done.
00:59:24
Big Daddy
I sent him to fat here.
00:59:25
Cokeley Brothers
We're done.
00:59:26
Ryne
Answer the question.
00:59:27
Big Daddy
Too many Twix, too many Snickers.
00:59:34
Big Daddy
His pockets were flowing.
00:59:35
Ryne
Hmm.
00:59:40
Big Daddy
Failed them up.
00:59:42
Cokeley Brothers
dude dad dad like couldn't take his eyes off him at NCAA
00:59:47
Big Daddy
It's one of those things where you're like equal parts disgusted and fascinated.
00:59:56
Cokeley Brothers
dude all right okay I'm done I'm done I'm our um I love watching you wrestle back in the day
01:00:05
Ryne
I loved it when you got inside tripped straight to your back.
01:00:09
Cokeley Brothers
No, I liked, dude, his three-match series with Jordan Burroughs was phenomenal.
Reminiscing Historic Matches
01:00:15
Big Daddy
yeah that was that was epic that was also epic
01:00:17
Ryne
So is your two match final series with Vincenzo Joseph.
01:00:24
Cokeley Brothers
For a different reason.
01:00:24
Big Daddy
he He contributed to the yeah greatest team race and the downfall of the flow film, untitled flow project from 2018.
01:00:25
Cokeley Brothers
It's
01:00:31
Cokeley Brothers
true.
01:00:37
Ryne
I wish they would released that.
01:00:37
Big Daddy
Yeah, they
01:00:37
Cokeley Brothers
Ohio State, what could have been?
01:00:40
Ryne
They should have released that.
01:00:41
Big Daddy
yeah they should have.
01:00:44
Cokeley Brothers
One step short. One trip too quick. ah
01:00:49
Ryne
They should just make Bo Nickel look like a villain in that.
01:00:53
Cokeley Brothers
It wouldn't be hard, Ryan. I'm sorry, it wouldn't.
01:00:55
Ryne
I know.
01:00:56
Cokeley Brothers
it would be so easy.
01:00:58
Ryne
I love you, Bo.
01:00:58
Cokeley Brothers
you kind't You don't actually have to try. you just kind of play it.
01:01:00
Ryne
You still have a fan in me, Bo. A lot of people, Sammy, have turned on you.
01:01:03
Big Daddy
I like I still like.
01:01:05
Cokeley Brothers
I like watching him fight. ah like watching him fight. I don't like listening to him talk. I don't.
01:01:11
Big Daddy
This weird man, because like I listened to his interview on flow and he was like. Very ah cool about, but you know, he took forever talking
01:01:21
Ryne
He's got a character.
01:01:23
Big Daddy
he He was a, you know, I feel like when people take a long time to like figure out their words and what they're going to say, tells me that they they're not used to talking and that in that manner.
01:01:35
Cokeley Brothers
In a certain way.
01:01:37
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. He's like, I have to be very careful about what I say here.
01:01:37
Big Daddy
Yeah, they're used to being, yeah, that'd be nice.
01:01:41
Ryne
know what I think, Reese?
01:01:43
Big Daddy
there I'd do it.
01:01:45
Ryne
I think that's a good assessment.
01:01:49
Big Daddy
Oh, thank you.
01:01:50
Ryne
You're
01:01:51
Cokeley Brothers
Good job.
01:01:53
Cokeley Brothers
92 kilos. Try hardly. Looks like a world team member.
01:01:58
Ryne
probably the easiest pick when it came to picking who is going win a weight.
01:02:03
Cokeley Brothers
No, Kyle, Kyle Snyder.
01:02:08
Ryne
I guess. Yeah, you're right.
01:02:09
Cokeley Brothers
who You're getting flashbanged, Ryan. Look out.
01:02:12
Big Daddy
What is going on over there?
01:02:17
Ryne
Don't worry about it, Reese.
01:02:21
Cokeley Brothers
wins in the finals 7-1 over ah college freshman Aiden Sinclair who wrestled like 12 matches this weekend.
01:02:30
Ryne
18 matches. It was 18.
01:02:34
Cokeley Brothers
How did he wrestle 18 matches? That doesn't make sense.
01:02:37
Ryne
Yeah, was.
01:02:38
Cokeley Brothers
He only wrestled four on seniors.
01:02:39
Big Daddy
the number of
01:02:40
Ryne
Yeah, but he wrestled 14 juniors.
01:02:44
Big Daddy
No, it
01:02:44
Cokeley Brothers
No, he did not. how big How big does the bracket have to be if you win if you wrestle 14 matches on the front side?
01:02:52
Ryne
I believe it was, was it 10 or 11?
01:02:54
Big Daddy
it's like that.
01:02:56
Ryne
How many matches did he wrestle for real?
01:02:56
Big Daddy
That would have to be like 20,000 people.
01:02:59
Cokeley Brothers
he wrestled ah one, two, three, four in seniors. And then he wrestled... he wrestled
01:03:09
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, he wrestled way more. Okay. I'm at the wrong weight. That's problem. Wait. He wrestled 86. Okay. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Okay, so wrestled 9 matches.
01:03:25
Cokeley Brothers
And he wrestled 86 in the U20s. I didn't even realize that.
01:03:29
Big Daddy
So he got kind of, it so what do we think about that? Did you watch that finals with McAnally?
01:03:33
Cokeley Brothers
yeah oh yeah. Let's talk about that. ah
01:03:35
Cokeley Brothers
He got screwed. He got screwed.
01:03:35
Big Daddy
How do we feel about that?
01:03:37
Big Daddy
He got, he got G node.
01:03:37
Cokeley Brothers
He got screwed.
01:03:38
Ryne
Why?
01:03:39
Cokeley Brothers
Because you yeah he got the takedown and then showed clear effort to try and turn McAnally. And after two seconds, they said, nah, let's go up.
01:03:49
Cokeley Brothers
Nah. A
01:03:49
Ryne
You think it seemed like it seemed like they gave him ample time.
01:03:50
Big Daddy
And then, and then he kind of blew it, but still.
01:03:53
Cokeley Brothers
little bit.
01:03:56
Cokeley Brothers
No, absolutely not. No.
01:04:00
Big Daddy
Somebody, some dude was like, explained him, he like, you know, in that kind of situation, the official has two options. Either let him have way too much time, like, and just let the the clock run out or, you know, bring them up really quick and, and like, you know, eight seconds, like let the clock have like at least enough time for a wrestler to score.
01:04:13
Cokeley Brothers
cut it off early
01:04:22
Big Daddy
And it was like, well, that makes sense. And Aiden should have, how you, how are you, how are you,
01:04:25
Ryne
I thought it was the right call. Yes.
01:04:27
Cokeley Brothers
dude they also they also let max mcinelli they let mcinelli get a running start okay all right
01:04:28
Ryne
Yes. Also, yes, Reese.
01:04:33
Big Daddy
Dude, that's right.
01:04:35
Ryne
All right.
01:04:35
Big Daddy
Like it looked like he jumped the clock.
01:04:35
Ryne
That I agree with. That I agree with. I had didn't really and and didn't really ah think about that, or like but now that I think about it, I'm like, ooh, that might have been.
01:04:38
Big Daddy
Or jumped the whistle.
01:04:46
Ryne
you might be right, Sam.
01:04:46
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Yeah. So I hope to see them wrestle again.
01:04:50
Ryne
yeah Jamie, will you pull that up, please?
01:04:51
Cokeley Brothers
and yeah, Jamie put, okay.
01:04:54
Ryne
Jimmy, pull that up, please.
01:04:55
Cokeley Brothers
Thanks. Thanks for pulling that up, Jamie. I think I'm, I'm excited to to see them wrestle
NCAA Weight Class Predictions
01:04:59
Cokeley Brothers
again. And I expect, uh, great matches at, uh, you 20 trials.
01:05:05
Cokeley Brothers
So one 84
01:05:05
Ryne
I think 184 in NCAAs next year is going to be amazeballs.
01:05:07
Big Daddy
and folks that
01:05:12
Cokeley Brothers
and one 33 one 41 are going to be crazy.
01:05:17
Big Daddy
crazy. Why 141 the other guy
01:05:21
Cokeley Brothers
uh with mendez hardy um and uh stanich and frost and the other one and don't know i looked at this looked at this i'm like this is going to be a very fun weight class bombar um there's gonna be a lot of fun wrestling whoever penn state has don't know who they're gonna have blaze or ono
01:05:32
Big Daddy
but other guy
01:05:45
Ryne
When was the last time Lehigh had back-to-back champions?
01:05:48
Big Daddy
but easier
01:05:49
Ryne
Like, two, you know what I mean? Like,
01:05:52
Big Daddy
Has that happened?
01:05:53
Cokeley Brothers
like Like 33 and 41.
01:05:55
Ryne
yes.
01:05:57
Big Daddy
It has happened?
01:05:57
Cokeley Brothers
Dude.
01:05:57
Ryne
Has that ever happened for Lehigh?
01:05:59
Cokeley Brothers
No idea.
01:06:00
Ryne
Have they ever had two champions in one tournament ever?
01:06:00
Cokeley Brothers
No clue.
01:06:00
Big Daddy
i wouldn't think so.
01:06:03
Cokeley Brothers
Well.
01:06:03
Big Daddy
I would say no.
01:06:06
Cokeley Brothers
The high wrestling champions.
01:06:12
Cokeley Brothers
I'm going to say no, but I mean, historically they've been ah really good team.
01:06:15
Big Daddy
Crickum and Stanich? I don't know, dude.
01:06:18
Cokeley Brothers
They have.
01:06:19
Big Daddy
I have a hard time seeing Sanchez beat Mendez. Beating Mendez. That's my my thing.
01:06:26
Ryne
You might be able to, dude.
01:06:26
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
01:06:28
Ryne
You know what I gathered from the Stanich-Mendez match? Or not Stanich-Mendez, Stanich-Bassett match?
01:06:32
Big Daddy
But.
01:06:35
Ryne
Stanich is incredibly strong.
01:06:39
Cokeley Brothers
yes
01:06:39
Big Daddy
What did he do? i didn't see the match.
01:06:41
Ryne
did Go back and watch it. yeah I mean, he just neutralizes Bassett's pace with his strength and doesn't, like, really use much endurance doing so.
01:06:54
Ryne
And it's what helps him win the match, in my opinion. slows Slows Bassett down, dude.
01:06:58
Big Daddy
Bastard didn't know what to do.
01:07:00
Ryne
Yeah, Bassett, I don't think... He's like, this guy is not only slowing me down, but he's not getting tired.
01:07:10
Ryne
So, because it's not like bat Bassett was getting to the legs. That was the one thing that was like, he if if he can fix his finish on like the rubber knee, then he might ah beat Stanach up pretty good next time.
01:07:28
Big Daddy
Oh, he was just couldn't finish.
01:07:31
Ryne
He was kind yeah, he was struggling to finish, especially like, don't know. It was kind of rubber knee-ish, but not really.
01:07:38
Big Daddy
Dude, he should forego a senior year.
01:07:38
Cokeley Brothers
okay
01:07:40
Big Daddy
Him and Jack should both forego their senior years.
01:07:43
Cokeley Brothers
It looks like in 1965, Lehigh had champ at 137 and champ at 123.
01:07:47
Ryne
They won't.
01:07:47
Cokeley Brothers
No? No? and a champ at one twenty three
01:07:51
Ryne
They want to be faith Christian.
01:07:53
Big Daddy
They want to be a faith Christian.
01:07:55
Ryne
And do you blame them? I would be the same way.
01:07:59
Cokeley Brothers
no
01:07:59
Big Daddy
Yeah, they'll do they'll do whatever it takes.
01:08:01
Ryne
And they're going to be good next year.
01:08:03
Big Daddy
However many kids they need to recruit.
01:08:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah. Okay. I just pulled up some historical information. i thought that was kind of cool, but whatever.
01:08:10
Ryne
Well, we were talking about something before that, Sammy.
01:08:10
Big Daddy
I heard you.
01:08:12
Ryne
So you know what?
01:08:12
Cokeley Brothers
Then, no, it's fine.
01:08:13
Big Daddy
Yeah, you
01:08:13
Ryne
Take your historical information and shove it right up your butthole.
01:08:13
Big Daddy
you in
01:08:14
Cokeley Brothers
But we were talking about something else before that even.
01:08:14
Big Daddy
you you interjected.
01:08:22
Big Daddy
it
01:08:25
Big Daddy
are you doing there, Ryan?
01:08:26
Cokeley Brothers
As a world team member.
01:08:28
Ryne
Fantastic.
01:08:31
Cokeley Brothers
I can hear like the game music in the background.
Podcast Shenanigans
01:08:33
Cokeley Brothers
What are you playing?
01:08:34
Ryne
No, you can't. That's impossible.
01:08:37
Big Daddy
He's playing Dark Souls.
01:08:37
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, you hear...
01:08:38
Ryne
That.
01:08:38
Big Daddy
He just was just talking about Estes flasks and shit before he got on.
01:08:46
Ryne
There's my controller. The game is plugged into some headphones, so there's no way you can hear any music.
01:08:56
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Sure.
01:08:57
Ryne
You hear the fan of my PS4?
01:09:00
Cokeley Brothers
and That's probably what I hear.
01:09:01
Ryne
four Yeah, this is 4.
01:09:01
Cokeley Brothers
Because that thing is a freaking... That thing is an airplane motor.
01:09:04
Ryne
It's yours, Sammy.
01:09:05
Cokeley Brothers
Uh-huh.
01:09:05
Ryne
you You gave it to me.
01:09:09
Cokeley Brothers
Okay, 97 kilos, Kyle Snyder wins. That's kind of all there is to say about it. I don't even know this guy who took third place.
01:09:17
Cokeley Brothers
Zane Lanham? No, I know J.I. L.O., but who is Zane Lanham?
01:09:17
Big Daddy
JIL?
01:09:24
Ryne
I know the name.
01:09:25
Big Daddy
Dang.
01:09:28
Big Daddy
Who is Kyle Knopp?
01:09:29
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
01:09:30
Big Daddy
Chris Knopp?
01:09:31
Cokeley Brothers
christian Christian Knopp, he's an NC State wrestler.
01:09:33
Ryne
name is Lanham.
01:09:34
Cokeley Brothers
He's from Alabama.
01:09:34
Big Daddy
Who's Gavin Hoffman?
01:09:36
Cokeley Brothers
Gavin Hoffman, Gary Traub, Massama and Dean didn't look killer, but that's fine.
01:09:48
Big Daddy
You're a hater.
01:09:49
Cokeley Brothers
Dude. I just, I call some high season. And then at heavyweight.
01:09:55
Ryne
Oh, Life. That's right. And Glenville.
01:09:57
Cokeley Brothers
Who? Okay.
01:09:59
Ryne
I know this guy.
01:10:02
Ryne
Is that Zane Lanham?
01:10:03
Big Daddy
Life University?
01:10:03
Cokeley Brothers
madam'am ah go
01:10:05
Ryne
He was a graduate assistant at Glenville and he was a two-time national champion, four-time All-American at Life.
01:10:13
Big Daddy
Interesting. A D2 guy. Or is that NAIA?
01:10:17
Ryne
That's an ai idiot.
01:10:19
Big Daddy
In the AI guy beating up on some D one boys.
01:10:25
Big Daddy
Interesting.
01:10:25
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. Heavyweight. Henderson wins. He gets...
01:10:25
Ryne
He's tough.
01:10:31
Big Daddy
and these These weights are so uninteresting. I want to talk about junior, upper weights of juniors way more.
01:10:38
Cokeley Brothers
run it.
01:10:40
Big Daddy
I want to ask what your opinion is on Cody Merrill.
01:10:45
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. i was not super inspired by how he did.
01:10:49
Big Daddy
I haven't been inspired by any of his wrestling this past year.
01:10:54
Cokeley Brothers
I mean, I liked what I saw with him at the
01:10:58
Big Daddy
The soldier salute.
01:10:58
Cokeley Brothers
um at the Soldier Salute. I liked that. But 5-1 against Mirasola was just not...
01:11:02
Big Daddy
I know. He's.
01:11:05
Big Daddy
Dude, he used to be right. Or did he wrestle the other one?
01:11:09
Cokeley Brothers
I have no idea. I don't know which one he would have wrestled.
01:11:13
Ryne
Make you beat Connor.
01:11:13
Big Daddy
think.
01:11:17
Big Daddy
Yeah, he he just he's struggling to get to his office for sure.
01:11:23
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, just,
01:11:27
Cokeley Brothers
you know, hopefully we see some correction for there next time.
01:11:30
Big Daddy
ah Yeah.
01:11:35
Cokeley Brothers
But it's just not.
01:11:36
Ryne
Telling you Braden Thompson is going to be 97 for Oklahoma State next year.
01:11:42
Cokeley Brothers
I don't get that either.
01:11:43
Big Daddy
So Merrill's not going to wrestle as I always said.
01:11:46
Ryne
Merrill's going to heavyweight.
01:11:47
Cokeley Brothers
I was going to run for heavyweight.
01:11:49
Big Daddy
He's going with heavyweight. Do said no, no do set.
01:11:52
Ryne
No Doucette.
01:11:53
Cokeley Brothers
They're deucing on Doucette, which I hate the idea of.
01:11:57
Big Daddy
Yeah.
01:11:59
Big Daddy
Yeah.
01:11:59
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, how did we feel about Duke and Miller? Melvin Miller, PJ Duke.
01:12:04
Big Daddy
That was an awesome match.
01:12:06
Ryne
That was a great match.
01:12:06
Big Daddy
Nothing.
01:12:06
Ryne
I think Melvin Miller is the real deal.
01:12:09
Cokeley Brothers
Legit. He is legit.
01:12:12
Ryne
like
01:12:12
Big Daddy
He's legit.
01:12:12
Ryne
Everyone thinks Melvin Miller is locked in for Iowa. I think there's going to be a battle for him.
01:12:19
Cokeley Brothers
Well, who do you think's honing their blade for this battle?
01:12:19
Big Daddy
between
01:12:23
Ryne
The other think he's still
01:12:25
Cokeley Brothers
ah Oklahoma State and Penn State. The three houses.
01:12:30
Big Daddy
how how old is Melvin Miller? That's what I want to know.
01:12:33
Cokeley Brothers
18 at least right now.
01:12:35
Big Daddy
Really?
01:12:36
Cokeley Brothers
Otherwise he would be wrestling U17s.
01:12:36
Big Daddy
you serious?
01:12:39
Ryne
i think he still use seventeen eligible.
01:12:41
Cokeley Brothers
No.
01:12:42
Big Daddy
Isn't he a sophomore?
01:12:43
Cokeley Brothers
Yes.
01:12:44
Big Daddy
So you think he's...
01:12:44
Cokeley Brothers
This would put him on the same trajectory as Bo.
01:12:45
Big Daddy
I wouldn't.
01:12:48
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
01:12:50
Big Daddy
That would make him well, I guess he would be 20 by the end if he just turned 18. That would make him 20 by the end of his senior year. So I guess no rush.
01:12:59
Cokeley Brothers
beau Bo Bassett was 17 turning 18 in the year ah last year.
01:13:04
Big Daddy
Bo's only 18 apparently. Or is he is he 19 is 18 or 19?
01:13:06
Cokeley Brothers
Huh?
01:13:10
Cokeley Brothers
Bo says he will be U-20 eligible next year, which makes sense.
01:13:11
Ryne
there
01:13:14
Cokeley Brothers
Because again, last year after the Olympic trials, he was 17 turning 18 that year between his sophomore to junior year of high school.
01:13:23
Ryne
But he won't be U20 eligible his first year college like most guys are.
01:13:24
Big Daddy
Right, but when when does he turn?
01:13:30
Cokeley Brothers
No. And he won't be U-20 eligible during his second year of college like some guys are.
01:13:32
Ryne
um guys like Some guys like Luke Stanich. Two years.
01:13:38
Cokeley Brothers
And me.
01:13:40
Big Daddy
You too?
01:13:41
Cokeley Brothers
Yep, I was you twenty eligible and sophomore year.
01:13:42
Ryne
Not me. just
01:13:44
Big Daddy
was it Was I then?
01:13:44
Ryne
Just one year for me. Yes, you would.
01:13:46
Cokeley Brothers
Reese, you were.
01:13:46
Ryne
You would have been race, yes. You would have been.
01:13:48
Cokeley Brothers
Yes, Andrew Berryessa was not.
01:13:51
Big Daddy
So yeah, I just I just want to know when their birthday is is what I want to know.
01:13:56
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, well, don't consult the internet because they have no idea either.
01:14:00
Big Daddy
know you WW just assumes everyone's like Russia or something that they lie about their age.
01:14:05
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but didn't Bo say his birthday was one day and then Rudis, who he's a Rudis athlete, didn't he, said that his birthday was a different date?
01:14:13
Big Daddy
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Bo said is like August something August 2006 maybe or 2007.
01:14:15
Cokeley Brothers
And then, yeah.
01:14:21
Cokeley Brothers
Then there's like all these other people on the internet like, no, I've heard his birthday is this day and I've heard it's that day.
01:14:24
Big Daddy
to them.
01:14:27
Cokeley Brothers
So like, unless you see the certificate, you'll never know.
01:14:31
Big Daddy
Jax. I want to know how Jax is. Is he 19 now?
01:14:33
Ryne
It's sad July of all over again.
01:14:34
Big Daddy
Some someone, someone said he's 19. Yeah,
01:14:36
Cokeley Brothers
I think Jax was turning 19 this year.
01:14:39
Big Daddy
yeah but did he just turn 19? Is that what happened?
01:14:41
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. I don't know.
01:14:43
Big Daddy
That's what I want to know.
01:14:44
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know.
01:14:44
Ryne
Jack's ambassador are the same age, I thought.
01:14:47
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, but when in that year, you know?
01:14:49
Cokeley Brothers
you know
01:14:49
Big Daddy
in
01:14:50
Big Daddy
in the year,
01:14:52
Ryne
Probably around the same time of year.
01:14:59
Big Daddy
Anyway, Melvin Miller, yeah, he looks like – really, he looks like a kind of grownish. That was my point.
01:15:06
Cokeley Brothers
Well, being 18, you're pretty grown-ish.
01:15:08
Big Daddy
he was He was grown manning some of those dudes, some of those college dudes.
01:15:14
Cokeley Brothers
You like Jackson Joy and Cross Wasilewski?
01:15:18
Big Daddy
Yeah.
01:15:19
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, dude. ah He's legit. Now, tell you what, he had a 17-14 match early on against Jude Randall.
01:15:29
Ryne
How often do you think those guys train at UPJ?
01:15:30
Big Daddy
Who is that?
01:15:37
Cokeley Brothers
I don't know. Is it?
01:15:38
Big Daddy
What's your point?
01:15:40
Ryne
Well, that's an advantage. You're still wrestling with college guys.
01:15:46
Big Daddy
I feel like all these dudes wrestle. I just assume they all do that.
01:15:47
Ryne
And UPJ has a good program.
01:15:53
Big Daddy
All the college or the high school, all the high school.
01:15:54
Ryne
Strip Matter. Strip Matter coaches there.
01:16:00
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, don't know.
01:16:02
Big Daddy
You did that, didn't you? Ryan?
01:16:05
Ryne
We would go to Baker.
01:16:07
Big Daddy
yeah that's right.
01:16:09
Cokeley Brothers
but why Why do you say it?
01:16:09
Big Daddy
Highly touted.
01:16:10
Cokeley Brothers
Why do you say it with so much contempt, brother? brother
01:16:13
Big Daddy
Yes, brother.
01:16:13
Ryne
Because they sucked. What?
01:16:15
Cokeley Brothers
Brother, why do you say it with so much contempt? Yeah, but like compare the quality of Penn High School, Penn State, Pennsylvania High School Wrestling to Kansas High School Wrestling and then UPJ to Baker.
01:16:18
Big Daddy
But brother, why?
01:16:29
Ryne
Dude, look at how well UPJ does year to year at the Division 2 level versus Baker.
01:16:37
Big Daddy
How do they do?
01:16:39
Ryne
They're top 10 every year, I would.
01:16:40
Big Daddy
Baker's NIA dumbass.
01:16:41
Cokeley Brothers
Right.
01:16:43
Ryne
Yeah. And they suck. They're terrible.
01:16:46
Cokeley Brothers
App of the origins. App ends and origins.
01:16:50
Ryne
They're terrible. they would They'd be terrible in Division 2.
01:16:52
Cokeley Brothers
Yep.
01:16:53
Ryne
They'd be worse than Fort Hayes in Division 2.
01:16:55
Cokeley Brothers
Hey, I got a question for you guys. Is my background flickering?
01:17:02
Big Daddy
A little bit, but little bit.
01:17:02
Ryne
Uh, yeah.
01:17:05
Cokeley Brothers
That's annoying. I hate that. Anyway, you want to,
01:17:10
Ryne
talk about Wyatt Hendrickson.
01:17:12
Cokeley Brothers
Oh, Wyatt's the champ.
01:17:12
Big Daddy
All right.
01:17:14
Big Daddy
He beat ah and e b and a NCAA two-time NCAA qualifier Demetrius Thomas in the finals.
01:17:15
Ryne
Again.
01:17:20
Big Daddy
Who beat Hayden Zomer?
01:17:22
Ryne
Yeah, D-Train's tough now.
01:17:25
Cokeley Brothers
Meech studied up at Brown.
01:17:29
Big Daddy
Yeah. How did he beat Zomer? Did anybody watch that match? Ooh.
01:17:32
Ryne
and well It was...
01:17:32
Cokeley Brothers
No, I was not ready for that one.
01:17:35
Ryne
Zomer looked worn out from his last match against Fort Hayes State University assistant coach Colton McKinnon.
01:17:46
Big Daddy
He was worn, huh?
01:17:48
Ryne
He was worn out. He was tie-tie.
01:17:52
Big Daddy
Creepy.
01:17:53
Ryne
He was sweepy, sweep. He didn't need sweep.
01:17:58
Big Daddy
He needed to...
01:17:58
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, I'm watching this clip. i do I do not remember this. Zahid just about nearly snapped Dake's head into the mat.
01:18:07
Big Daddy
Yeah, dude, he snapped the shit out of him.
01:18:09
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, at one point, they were boxing.
01:18:12
Big Daddy
Like, early in the match?
01:18:13
Cokeley Brothers
They were just punching each other.
01:18:16
Big Daddy
Yeah, I was over that.
01:18:17
Ryne
my kind of That's my kind of wrestling.
01:18:17
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know. I kind of liked it. kind of was like, yeah. Yeah. Hit him with the left.
01:18:21
Big Daddy
Hard wrestling.
01:18:22
Cokeley Brothers
Hit him with the right.
01:18:25
Big Daddy
Knock the pussy out.
01:18:26
Cokeley Brothers
Fight night.
01:18:30
Cokeley Brothers
I liked it. I thought it was fun. Obviously, it didn't pay off for for Dake, but you just can't get ducked and gutted.
01:18:33
Big Daddy
Has he been
01:18:37
Cokeley Brothers
you know If you don't get ducked and gutted, you probably do a lot better.
01:18:38
Big Daddy
gutted like that ever
01:18:44
Cokeley Brothers
i don't know when the last time was that Kyle Dake was gut-wrenched.
01:18:47
Ryne
What was he attempting?
01:18:48
Big Daddy
Did he get gut-riched by...
01:18:48
Ryne
What kind of defense was he attempting there?
01:18:49
Big Daddy
ah
01:18:51
Ryne
Ooh,
01:18:51
Cokeley Brothers
i think I think John J. Chavez gut-wrenched him once.
01:18:56
Ryne
there's a name I haven't heard en a while.
01:18:57
Cokeley Brothers
But John J.
01:18:57
Big Daddy
What defense?
01:18:57
Cokeley Brothers
Chavez also has the strength of Zeus and I don't understand it. Never did.
01:19:02
Ryne
John J. Chavez.
01:19:05
Cokeley Brothers
Dude, he would do that two on one where he doesn't even grab your arm.
01:19:05
Big Daddy
but
01:19:07
Cokeley Brothers
He just like pinches it to your body and you can't get it back.
01:19:12
Big Daddy
i do I do want to re-watch that match. and see that yeah like what what his reaction was to getting gutted because that was weird that was like uh it was like i refuse sir that's what it felt like it felt like uh i will not be giving up this gut okay i don't know zahid also seemed like he was like what is he doing what is he
01:19:17
Cokeley Brothers
the
01:19:22
Cokeley Brothers
He was trying to get out of the trap arm at the same time.
01:19:37
Cokeley Brothers
eight there was definitely There was definitely a moment when they were on their back and Kyle's like, um i I see the lights, but what's happened what's happening?
01:19:46
Ryne
It looks like Dake was trying to scramble out of it. And then just rolled with it, kind of.
01:19:51
Cokeley Brothers
Yeah, it was just weird.
01:19:53
Ryne
don't It was a weird deal.
01:19:54
Cokeley Brothers
It was weird.
01:19:54
Big Daddy
It looked like he was trying to like Hercules, I thought. Like that's what I picture in my mind is him trying to Hercules out of it.
01:20:00
Cokeley Brothers
It's...
01:20:02
Big Daddy
Yeah.
01:20:05
Big Daddy
And Zahid was like, holy shit.
01:20:11
Ryne
Say it again, Rhys.
01:20:11
Cokeley Brothers
It's going a fun dude. It's going to be a fun. I hope it's a full three match series at final X. I hope we just get nine minutes. Wow. Yeah. 18 minutes of just great Zahid Dake wrestling.
01:20:26
Cokeley Brothers
Maybe one of the matches can be a snoozer. We get, you know, you get it. Every four matches, you get a little burner and that's okay.
01:20:31
Big Daddy
that
01:20:34
Big Daddy
Yeah. Be interesting.
01:20:36
Cokeley Brothers
Okay. All right, people, if you're still listening, go do something else.
01:20:42
Cokeley Brothers
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01:20:42
Big Daddy
Yeah.
01:20:42
Big Daddy
Bye. Stay classy.
01:20:50
Cokeley Brothers
And we hope you had a good one. Boys close.
01:20:54
Big Daddy
byebye
01:20:55
Ryne
Good night. Sleep tight.
01:20:56
Cokeley Brothers
Bye.
01:20:57
Ryne
Don't let the bed bugs bite.
01:20:57
Cokeley Brothers
Bye. bye bye bye
01:20:58
Big Daddy
take my