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Ep. 101 – The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Probably Church Trunk-or-Treats
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Happy Halloween, friends! This week, we’re reviewing some very important warnings about this, the most evil of all holidays, from the totally sane and rational prophets of Christian TikTok. But first, Sam has some very exciting news to share… If you’re enjoying the show, we’d sure appreciate it if you’d share it with a friend or two and leave us a review wherever you listen. As always, we’d love to hear from you! Find a link to our Discord server in our Instagram bio.
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Halloween Concerns and Criticisms
00:00:00
Speaker
If you're watching this video, do not celebrate Halloween at all, guys. It is not worth losing your life over a piece of candy. It's going to be a lot of demonic activity that's going to take place this day, and it's going to be a lot of bad things that's going to happen. Please be warned. Do not celebrate Halloween. Just buy your own candy. I'm begging you. Support big candy. Probably like the big candy corporations make it with like a board of stem cells or something. So you can't do that either.
00:00:49
Speaker
We are back with another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. I'm Jeremiah. And I have all sorts of life updates today. But before I get into that, I'm going to ask you, Jeremiah, how getting blown away in Vegas was. I hated Las Vegas and I would like to never go back. That would be ideal.
00:01:16
Speaker
Did you put on one of those like cool suits that turns you into flying squirrel and jump in the air during like 90 mile an hour wind gusts? I didn't do that, but thank you to the podcast listener who posted in the Discord like the article that was cool things to do in Vegas because one of those was the Mob Museum. And so I did go to the Mob Museum. Oh, it's pretty good. It wasn't like Smithsonian good, but it was like, you know, Vegas Museum good. So that was enjoyable. That was right next to Fremont Street, which is like their open air
00:01:44
Speaker
I don't know, happened in Arts District or something. And I went there and that was one of the worst places I've ever been in my life. District. There was like stages set up. It's that one that has like the LED screen that wraps over the roof. Oh, yeah. Goes for like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you've been to Vegas a bunch, you know. Yeah, the people advertising like the super cheap beer pitchers and like there's Chippendale dancers and strippers and magicians and like a bunch of bands that.
00:02:11
Speaker
Don't write their own music and like someday might hit it big and play at Six Flags. Yeah, do terrible covers of like 80s and 90s stuff. I think I was there for about 10 at the gig. They just land a sick gig on a cruise. Honestly, I don't think these people are good enough for a cruise ship. They're good enough for a street full of drunken partiers. That's about all they're good for. This was like mid afternoon to like this wasn't at night and 10 minutes and I was done. Like I was like, I do not ever want to come back here.
00:02:38
Speaker
I love the people that play in the bands, though, on Fremont Street, because they're like they're like caricatures of rock stars. It's like like they look like Fortnite, like Sims or something. Yeah, it's it's like, well, all of them shop at the buckle. That's for sure. 100 percent. Yep. Yeah. How many coats that have the the tails on them?
00:03:06
Speaker
It was more like one guy, like the lead singer of one of the bands was like, I definitely look like Kurt Cobain. So I should also dress just like Kurt Cobain. And he looked like like wish Kurt Cobain and wish there was two bands that I came across like on the stage. And these are really nice stages set up. I don't know who pays for these stages, but like I would have been stoked if my band got to play a gig with like the sound systems in this stage.
00:03:30
Speaker
But there's like 15 people standing there half drunk just staring at them like with zero crowd interaction while they're playing like don't stop believing. So yeah, okay. All right, Sam, let's throw out some songs and you tell us if you heard them from the bands that played. Okay.
00:03:49
Speaker
Oh, you're telling me I have to throw some Oh God, I'm so bad. Yeah, I was only there for like maybe 15 minutes top. So there aren't that many songs. So this was outside. You said this is just a well, it's outdoors, but there's like an LED roof over top of it. But yes, it's a street in between buildings. Think like the French Quarter in New Orleans with an LED roof. So just constantly like regularly, there's just assholes playing music on that stage. Looks like it.
00:04:17
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. And you can buy you can buy art from homeless people who are making like jewelry and stuff sitting on the sidewalk right next to a magician who's trying to get you to watch his stuff right next to a Chippendales dancer who's trying to get you to come take pictures with him. Like and that's all within like 15 feet. And it all smells like weed, even though there's signs every 15 feet that say you can't smoke weed outdoors. Don't be.
00:04:46
Speaker
yeah last time I was there there was a bearded guy in a dress and stuff taking pictures with people and somebody was like pulling on his wig or something like that and I kind of like shooed the guy away and the dude like came up and hugged me and then picked me up like
00:05:04
Speaker
Cradle me like a baby. I would be fighting like just involuntarily. Like I would just start swinging at anything if somebody on that street tried to pick me up. A complete stranger showed up and tried to cradle me.
00:05:24
Speaker
I would be very upset by that. Yeah, I would just be. Yeah, there's there's always a guy. OK, so there's always a guy in like he's usually about my size plus 70 pounds and he's wearing a Borat swimsuit and playing like a first act guitar on a practice amp. He's playing like power chords.
00:05:52
Speaker
And you can go take a picture with him. There's a lot of people that you're like, I don't really, I don't get what the performance is here, but I'm glad you're making money. Right. Like there was an elderly man who was dressed like he was homeless, but he had a sign, like a couple of vulgar signs and he would see you coming and he would just hold up whatever he thought was the one that was going to get you and then try to get you to give him money and take a picture with him. What?
00:06:18
Speaker
It's like it's it's all about just like you walk around you see what everybody's doing and then you go What's the one thing that someone isn't doing and then you try to do that no matter how dumb it is and you? That gets that gets people money for real like people are giving these weirdos money. I yeah, I guess I mean they must make an okay living doing it or I Get it must be perfect to some degree if they're doing it there, but they're the best part like they're way better than the keychain store and
00:06:48
Speaker
That's true. It's just basically what's there. It's like a bunch of second rate casinos, some very bad restaurants. Like, I mean, terrible. And then it's like a discount alcohol store, newly opened dispensaries that, you know, just transitioned from like vape store to a weed store. They look like they were sharing real estate, honestly. That's, that's most of it. Yeah. And then a place to buy, like, you know,
00:07:15
Speaker
refrigerator magnets with your name on them and coffee mugs that have bare breasts on them. Yeah, Casey nailed it. Hilarious. That's something you're there and you're like, this is funny. Then you bring it home, you're like, why do I have this? Well, because the shirts were three for $10. That was actually a store, three for $10 Las Vegas shirts. It's like, you know, those things are good. Casey, I didn't realize you were allowed to smoke indoors in Vegas.
00:07:43
Speaker
Our hotel, Sam, so our hotel was the Orleans, which is not one of the biggest ones, but it's like it's big enough that it has its own event hall and it has restaurants and a theater and casino. And you know, it's like it's at that level, but it's not the MGM Grand. There's people we get there at two in the morning, two thirty in the morning, you know, when our flight gets in and we get to the hotel and there's people gambling and smoking just sitting in the lobby at this.
00:08:07
Speaker
Like, and you come down in the morning and I'm pretty sure it's the same people are still there. And the hotel charges a $40 per day, uh, resort fee for access to the pool and wifi of up to one megabit and a few other things. Like everything in Vegas is a hustle. Everything is a hustle. Everything. And none of it's good. No, I.
00:08:30
Speaker
It's funny because if you leave the strip, there's a lot of really good restaurants and stuff like that in Las Vegas, but almost nothing that you're going to get close to those casinos is going to be any good at all because it's marketed to drunk boomers in electric wheelchairs. They're like, $6 sirloin, holy smokes. That's the marketing pitch.
00:08:54
Speaker
and everything that you go to there. Like you mentioned like the, the advertisements for discounts, discounted pitchers of beer. And it's definitely stands to reason that the better deal you see on a pitcher of beer, the it's like a one for one correlation on how great that restaurant is.
00:09:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, and that was on Fremont Street where they're just trying to get you to hang out there for a long enough period of time that you buy some terrible food or something like I you couldn't pay me money to stay on that street for an hour. Like I I just and again, I'm not the right person for this. I love, you know, the outdoors and Vegas seems to be pretty anti that I'll say the sunsets were really pretty. Utah was amazing. I loved Utah. Zion National Park is like one of the most beautiful places I've ever been in my whole life. And if I never have to go to Vegas again to get there, I'll be happy.
00:09:42
Speaker
I'd rather fly to Salt Lake City and drive twice as far just to not have to go through Vegas. I will say I went to a Cirque du Soleil. I went and saw the Hoover Dam. The Hoover Dam was awesome. And I went to a Cirque du Soleil in the MGM Grand. And the MGM Grand is really impressive.
00:09:57
Speaker
Uh, which Cirque du Soleil. Yeah. Caw. Okay. Yeah. April and I went to that one the last time I was there. Cirque du Soleil. Is that where you watch someone perform a circumcision? Is that what that is? Uh, yes. Okay. Definitely. And it says all ages and it is. Nice. Well, it's a medical procedure. So as long as it's, you know, your parents are fine with it, I guess. It's pay extra for the front row and when they toss out the schmuck, you can try to catch it, you know.
00:10:23
Speaker
such a way with words, Casey. Uh, no, I sat all the way back. I was gonna go with the calamari. Yeah.
00:10:35
Speaker
But yeah, the Cirque du Soleil was amazing. I like I've never seen one before. I would definitely go back for one of like to one of those. And the MGM Grand was really impressive. It's like a city inside a hotel. I mean, I can get why they have the best there and everything. I still don't ever want to go back there, but like I get it. That was impressive enough that I understood. OK, I see why people do this. I feel like I can appreciate it. I can appreciate Vegas to an extent like I don't like to gamble.
00:11:03
Speaker
And I'm not a big drinker, but I do like to just walk around and watch people act like insane. Yeah. You know, cause I mean, you could tell like ego walking around at some of the casinos and they all kind of have like a little bit different vibe. Like, did you just go walking down the strip into some of the other casinos?
00:11:20
Speaker
No, I drove up and down the strip a couple of times, but the only ones I went inside were the MGM grand and the Orleans. Yeah. So like you can go in some of the other ones, like, uh, I have to go back for a work convention in like a year. Oh, let me know when Caesar's palace, April's going with you. Come on. Bring me, bring me. You can probably stay with you on the couch. But, uh, they, you know, like Caesar's palace is very, uh, that one in,
00:11:49
Speaker
the Venetian are kind of like uppity. So it's a lot of people our age, dressed in weird clothes that they wouldn't wear at home. And they're like, trying to be loud and flashy. And then you go in like, you know, like the worst the worst one, I think, that I've been into is Circus Circus. Did you drive past that one? I didn't sound familiar. No. Well, it's a circus themed hotel from people. My god, this is where rad.
00:12:17
Speaker
And like they advertise that they have a McDonald's inside. If that tells you. Wow. Like a ball pit. Is there a ball pit? A ball pit full of lost seniors where the hearing aids are out of batteries and they've just like wet their pants. That would be an upgrade from Fremont Street still.
00:12:42
Speaker
Yeah, Fremont's like way cleaner than it was. Like the first time I went there for like a work thing, it was maybe like 10 years ago and it was wild down there.
00:12:53
Speaker
Like they kind of keep some of the rabble out of there nowadays, you know, but at the time, like you go in there and it was like these terrible bands playing and there was just a whole bunch of like homeless people high out of their gourd, just like bumping and grinding in front of the stage. It was a fun place. I don't want to be in the middle of it, but I do like to stand on the sidelines and watch people having fun in ways that, you know, I don't enjoy at all.
00:13:23
Speaker
I was I was so stressed. I went back to my I ran out of things I wanted to do went back to my hotel and took a nap before I had to go pick my friend up from the when we were young festival like that's Vegas tapped me out in like one afternoon.
00:13:36
Speaker
So did that, did that, when we were young thing, did that all fall apart or did they get to go day two or something? Yeah. So my friend, he had bought a ticket for day two, so he was fine. I had another friend that had gone like the day before. And so it was canceled and she couldn't do anything. So only the first day was canceled because of high wind. The second day, everything was fine. And I think they had their next day was this past weekend.
00:13:56
Speaker
Yeah. What's crazy, the amount of people who flew in for that, it's like, yeah, you get refunded for the festival, but you literally just spent like hundreds of dollars on hotels and plane tickets. Like, yeah, no one's covering that. But it did seem like there was plenty of room. He said he could get up almost as close as he wanted to any of the stages, like within reason. And the sound was great. They had them really organized, like swapping off one stage after the other, you know, a band setting up and then a band playing.
00:14:25
Speaker
It seems like they really ran it pretty well for it being the first day that they actually successfully pulled it off. That's cool. I love it. Dude, a well-run festival, man. So many of them have just not gone that way. Well, the security line to get in was like he was in line for, I think, an hour and a half, two hours, and when they finally got up there, they were just given up, and they were gently touching each person's backpack to be like, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine.
00:14:50
Speaker
So it did seem like they they kind of failed on the how quickly they could get everybody in thing because he missed a couple of the bands that he wanted to see. I think I dropped him off like an hour before. Oh, wow. So that part sucked, but everything else seemed like it went really well. And it sounded like most of the bands did really good sets and stuff. So well, that's cool. Yeah.
00:15:09
Speaker
So that's, yeah, that was, that was Vegas. I hope I never go back. Thank you to the people who made suggestions and Utah was amazing. Zion national park is one of the prettiest places I've ever been in my life. So great outdoors. Another win. There it is. There's the recap, the Vegas recap. I was looking forward to that.
Sam's Journey as a School Counselor
00:15:26
Speaker
All right, so I'm going to go ahead and talk about myself for a little bit. I had a couple of eventful things. I might be a little preemptive in saying this, but so as everyone who's listened for a little bit knows, I'm in grad school. I went back to school to become a school adjustment counselor just about a year ago now.
00:15:50
Speaker
I recently realized how complicated things are going to be, uh, between like juggling work and then having to do a 900 hour practicum. Uh, which generally feels like an impossible task to juggle the two. So I started like, I've started thinking about what I can do, uh, in order to get by during that time. And there was always like a couple of options. There was one that, I mean, one would be, I would work like 25 hours a week.
00:16:20
Speaker
uh, and work in the afternoons and then do my practicum day. And that's obviously, it sounds like one of the worst possible options, but I was obviously willing to do that. And then then I started learning about employment based practicums where a school could hire you and then you can still count what you do as your practicum experience as long as there's somebody in the school who's willing to.
00:16:44
Speaker
to be like your supervisor for that. So it's like, well, that sounds like a pretty good option, but I don't know. I started having like these, like I just started kind of panicking. I'm like, I don't know what to do. I can't, I just felt really stressed. So I emailed my professor and was just like, I need, I got to figure out how to get into a school district. Like what are, what are my options? Because I, you know, I have a mortgage and I have,
00:17:07
Speaker
Two kids and two foster kids and it's just like what I graded the foster kids don't really cost me that much money anymore there.
00:17:17
Speaker
19 and mostly self-sufficient sure you're like you're still feeding them, right? Well, and then there's stuff going on with that that I'll get into after this Oh, I should have found that out before making that joke. I'm sorry. No I Will make jokes that some people might not be happy about As time goes on but that's just how I deal with my shit. So fuck you if you have a problem with it
00:17:45
Speaker
Uh, so anyways, you are sorting out all the things that would have probably been good to sort out before starting school. Yeah, but you can't start. Uh, and also before I mean, it's funny, but it's also like.
00:18:01
Speaker
I had emailed somebody like who manages your, like who, whenever, whoever was my academic advisor. I emailed her before starting the program was like, how can I do my practicum while working? And they were like, you know, you could do it a couple of days a week and then just take longer to do it. I was like, okay, start the program, find out halfway into the year. That's not an option. That is, has never been an option, nor can it be. You have to be in a school five days a week. So I was like,
00:18:30
Speaker
Well, fuck, how do I figure that out? So anyway, I emailed my professor. And then another reason I emailed Professor and I've been hesitant to talk about any of like my personal life work stuff here, but I've had a contentious relationship with my employer.
00:18:48
Speaker
It's fine. I'm well liked in my company, but it hasn't been a good fit for me for a little while. So I had a rough day. I was made to feel pretty small. I felt quite belittled one day and was like, all right, this seems like the right time to email my professor and be like,
00:19:07
Speaker
What can I do?" So she immediately called me and was like, there's a shortage for school counselors and a lot of schools are hiring on a provisional license. I'm going to write you a letter of recommendation and I think you should start applying for jobs.
00:19:23
Speaker
That was all about like six weeks ago. And, uh, last, so this is coming out Tuesday. So last Friday, um, I had my final interview at an elementary school and I've been hired to be their new school adjustment counselor.
00:19:39
Speaker
Uh, so very excited about that. Is that good? Okay. Cause you really started this story sounded like it was a downer. So it makes me want to not congratulate you just in case. No, it's, it's the most relief I've felt. Okay. Awesome. I felt like, is it just me, just me or like the really sound like this must be ending in a bad direction or is the bad stuff still coming? And I'm going to be quiet again. He really only got hired to read stories and drag. Exactly.
00:20:09
Speaker
No, and teach critical race theory. So it'll be weird, especially coming from a white guy. I don't, I guess that's a little weird when they hire a white person solely to teach critical. They saw one of your old pictures when you had dreadlocks and they were like, Oh, well he gets it. Yeah. I Rachel Dolezal the shit out of it. And now here I am. I worked out great for me. So, uh, no, it's, I wasn't, you know, I didn't originally think about doing elementary school, but, um,
00:20:37
Speaker
I don't know. There's plenty of aspects of it that like the experience transfers regardless of where I would end up or what grade I would teach. But I'm fucking thrilled. I got the news and felt like I was floating. Now, the reason I said it might be preemptive is because
00:20:55
Speaker
Uh, I'll go in to sign all my paperwork, uh, tomorrow. So when this one comes out and there's that part of me that always feels like something will go wrong and that for some reason I'll go in and they'll be like, actually, I think we're going to not. And then I'll just have to like take all this back and be very, very depressed for a significant period of time. So we'll say, but my assumption is that I'm going to go in as scheduled to sign all my paperwork and everything will go off.
00:21:25
Speaker
without a hitch. So yeah, that's a good, that's a big life update for me. I'm really excited about, I mean, I got, I'm still getting into my program for another two years. So getting here two years ahead of schedule when I only just started school like less than a year ago, it's like, it's fucking crazy to me. Uh, so huge shout out to my professor for writing me that letter of recommendation. Cause that is the only reason I got a job.
00:21:51
Speaker
And also say the state of the education system isn't all bad. Yeah.
00:21:56
Speaker
You know, I don't I've never got a letter of recommendation before. And I teared up when I read. I was like, this is the nicest shit anyone has ever said about me in writing, especially. It was pretty fucking cool. Well, you know, not to blow smoke up your skirt, but like you're exactly what every school would hope for in somebody that would fill that position. Like, I don't know, you're like
00:22:24
Speaker
one of the most empathetic people that I've ever met and you actually act upon that. Like it's not just talk, you know, I mean, like you're, you're a perfect fit for that, that job. And I think it's cool that you, you know, you had the, the, you, you knew yourself enough to know that like, oh, this is what I should do.
00:22:45
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know how to take compliments. Well, so I'm just going to leave it at that and feel uncomfortable a little bit, but, but I appreciate that. All right. So onto my other news. Uh, this is something I have not really got. I don't think I've really gotten into it at all.
00:23:02
Speaker
Um, uh, I've obviously talked about my foster kids. So one of them is, um, he's the kid I've been taking care of since he was like nine. Um, he's part of our family. He's, he's in college now. He's doing great. Uh, super proud of him. So, but, but I've been pretty vague about the situation with the other, um,
00:23:25
Speaker
I'm trying to think if I'm, I'm going, I guess I'll try to avoid using her name. I guess I'll just stick with the pronouns. Uh, it probably doesn't matter, but just in case I just, I think I feel more comfortable trying to avoid using it. So the situation with her was she was one of my wife's students. Um, my wife teaches special education, kids with behavioral, emotional disabilities. Um, so this girl was in and out of foster care since she was 11. Uh, she was one of.
00:23:54
Speaker
Uh, so we had come up, uh, years ago, uh, the idea of having a, of bringing her into our house and trying to help her, uh, get her life sorted out and graduate high school. But it never really worked out, uh, because DCF.
00:24:14
Speaker
I mean, they were just resistant to the idea. For anyone who's not from this area, DCF, that's Department of Children and Families. Some people call it CPS, some people call it DSS, so whatever. It's just that organization.
00:24:29
Speaker
But when she turned 18, she was a senior or she was going into her senior year and it was like, well, now she can choose where she lives. And we were like, all right, so she has had, she had previously made attempts on her life while she was
00:24:48
Speaker
my wife's student and kind of, I think shortly before she moved in with us. And that was a bit of a concern, but she'd also been given, she'd been in some really awful situations with foster families, group homes, like
00:25:04
Speaker
Uh, you know, she has a lot of mental health struggles and she was inconsistent with medications and I don't know. It was just all around that. And you know, we, we believed and hoped and thought that we could like, all right, we you'll move in with us. My daughter and son have been sharing a room for a little over a year, uh, because we don't have enough room. So we made space for her and we're like, we're going to, we're going to.
00:25:29
Speaker
get you through high school. And then there's a program around me called Job Corps, which is like, you go live there. It's kind of like college, but you don't really focus on a lot of academics. It's mostly just workforce related. So you could go like learn how to be like an ultrasound tech or do something automotive or there's just a lot of different options. And you live there and there's very, there's certain rules, which is like one of the rules is you have to pass drug tests. You can't smoke weed. You can't. So
00:25:58
Speaker
I mean, I'll try to make this go, wrap this up quickly, but it's like over the past year and year plus, it's been like, it's been one of the most, it's been the most challenging thing we've done. It's created a very difficult situation in our home on and off. It's had its ups and downs, but trying to insulate our kids, my kids who are five and seven from
00:26:26
Speaker
19 year old mental health struggles has been a fucking whirlwind. And she ended up last night for the third time making an attempt on her life and we had to call 911 and have her
00:26:47
Speaker
picked up and sectioned and it's just like holy shit like we've done this too many times now so I don't know man I just felt like I guess kind of airing my personal bullshit here because it's like it you just feel fucking weird about it like
00:27:04
Speaker
For the past four months, I've felt like kind of a hostage in my house because part of like we said, like we had a plan. It was never a long-term placement. It was to get her into something that she could do, a way for her to be a productive, stable adult.
00:27:21
Speaker
And about four months ago, it was like a month or two after coming back to our house after her previous suicide attempt. It was like just downward spiral. It was like she would just kind of leave a lot. She would come back always like high. She would constantly smoke weed.
00:27:44
Speaker
And it's like, we would be like, you can't do that in our house. Like you're 19. You're not smoking weed in the house. We're trying to get you to Job Corps. She's like, I'm not going to Job Corps. I'm not leaving. I'm not doing, like basically it was just like, I felt like someone just stole a room in my house and took advantage of our empathy and kindness to be like, I'm not kicking you out. But she's also like, I'm literally, she wouldn't, she refused to take any medication. She refused to get in touch with any of her mental health services.
00:28:12
Speaker
And she refused, she blocked my wife and I on her phone and she like refused to speak with us. And anytime you would go in and try to confront her or have a conversation, it would be like she would shut down or she would like threaten to hurt herself or she would pretend that she was going to like break the window and leave that way if you were blocking the door.
00:28:32
Speaker
Or she and then as as those conversations over, she would just leave for an indefinite amount of time. And it's just like, I don't know. Once we'll be back, I guess we just wait this one out again. So it was like that. It's been like that for months. And we're trying to like insulate our kids from understanding what's going on has been very difficult.
00:28:50
Speaker
So we had set a timeframe for her a month and a half ago. You need to find a place by November 1st. Otherwise, we're working with the professionals who work with you in DCF to find some sort of emergency respite kind of situation. But you need to move out by November 1st because
00:29:13
Speaker
You don't have to live here. It's weird that you're staying here and you're refusing to cooperate and have any sort of communication or relationship with us, but you also are trying to not leave. I feel like it just didn't really make sense. And I know a lot of that is related to her unmedicated, untreated mental health struggles.
00:29:35
Speaker
So it's just this back and forth of like feeling like, it feels like enabling an addict in some ways, the way that with the behavior. And then, and now, so after last night, it was like, that's it.
Challenges with Foster Care
00:29:53
Speaker
Like, we can't, this is the third time in our house, my kids are too young.
00:29:59
Speaker
And that feels shitty. It feels like you're kind of giving up on somebody, but at the same time, it's like an addict, right? You know, unless they're willing to get help or help themselves, like you can't do anything for them. We've been unable to get through to her or work with her for four months. And so now it's like she's in the hospital and she called my wife today and was like, I said something about wanting stuff. And it was like, I was like, we were really clear.
00:30:23
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about that November 1st deadline and this isn't this this can't change that so you need to figure out something else and I don't know it feels like a lot to just throw it into the internet but I feel shitty about it uh but also don't really like also I feel like a sense of relief to like have this chaos out of my house uh I don't know it's all fucking weird but yeah but you can't you
00:30:50
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It makes sense why you would feel the way that you feel, but also it doesn't sound like a situation where you are going to be able to solve it anyway. Right. That's a terrible thing to have to like come to grips with is you can try to do everything and it still may not be enough and it's not your fault. Yeah. I don't know. She doesn't want our help anymore. She doesn't want our help. And that's okay. Like I think what's so frustrating is like,
00:31:14
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she realized how she's not really well equipped to figure out how to do life on her own either. So it's like, that's why. Get really in the weeds with it. I honestly don't even know not this is I don't know that this is
00:31:30
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It feels weird to say, but I don't even know if this attempt was a full fledged kind of thing because it was basically took, she took like a few fistfuls of ibuprofen. So she was like out of it, but it was like, I don't, I think most people know that that
00:31:47
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That's not, that doesn't really kill you. Like when the, everyone, when the paramedics and stuff showed up, they were like, Oh, okay. Like, yeah, we need to deal with this. But like, like it, it, it kind of dropped the threat level a bit. It wasn't, it went from like people being like, Oh, what's going on to, okay. I think we see what's going on here. And it felt a little like, uh, cause last time there was some, a little acting involved cause they, the paramedics were like, if you picked up her arm and then,
00:32:14
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If they were really as unresponsive as she was letting on, your arm would just flop, but there was like some resistance when they were holding her arm and stuff. So they were all like, there's something, there's a lot going on here and we need to treat this seriously as an attempt on her life. But there also seems to be some other things going on here as well. And it feels similar with this time, with the third time. Sorry, that was the first time.
00:32:38
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The second time was different. That was very legitimate and scared the shit out of us. And then the third time was like, it feels like, uh, the time of November 1st was closing in and she didn't have options. And this just, it feels like this was like, uh, a way to force, I don't know, maybe force people's hands, maybe figure, I don't, I don't really know. I don't really want to speculate too much because it's not really
00:33:05
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where it's not helpful and I'm not trained in a way to do so, but it's just, it's bananas, man. It's the past year of my life. Like it's like, this is, I was resistant to talk about it just in the, cause there were some people in her life that I know might have checked this out and I don't want to necessarily air all that business, but
00:33:31
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It also fucking feels weird to like, I don't know. I feel like on this, you know, we try to protect the people in our lives by not, you know, dogging on them too hard or getting two in the weeds on stuff. But we also try to like show who we are and who and.
00:33:47
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have a level of authenticity. And it's like this has been the last since it's like starting school doing this. It's like, with with this girl, it's been like, it's definitely been the most challenging year of my life. And I just feels weird to like have not said anything about it. I just didn't feel right about it for a while. I don't know if you don't want to answer this, this is okay. Does it feel like this situation going on with her?
00:34:11
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Does it make you feel guilty for being excited about your new job and that working out like those two things pulling against each other in the same amount of time? I can't imagine that that's easy to deal with.
00:34:23
Speaker
It actually doesn't. I think what's weird is I genuinely feel mostly a sense of relief that she's no longer going to be in our house because of the turmoil that it's been. My house is small, dude.
00:34:42
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It's like the main living area is one space, kitchen, living room, dining room, no walls, and then the bedrooms. So it's just, it's, it's something that's constantly there.
00:34:55
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that you just feel like an anxiousness about. You never know what the day is going to be like. You don't know what issues you're going to deal with. So I feel guilty. I feel if anything, I feel a little guilty about feeling incredibly relieved that we don't have shit anymore. So.
00:35:15
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Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't, I remember when you texted me like the first time that that all happened, like don't even know what to say, you know, like, yeah, it's a situation that's so foreign to me that I don't, I don't know what the right course action is there. But I do think, you know, it gets to a point where you're like, you're dealing with an adult, you know, if, if nothing else, I mean, in age and, and
00:35:46
Speaker
Yeah, there is a point where it's like, are we enabling a lifestyle that is bad and self-destructive for this person? Especially with the way she was treating and feeling towards us at this point.
00:36:04
Speaker
If she's feeling this way about us, this isn't a good arrangement for anybody. It's purely based on a rent-free agreement that she's not, that she wasn't making any effort to move on. So, well, it is what it is now. You know, my daughter is going to have her room back. Her and my son won't have to share a room anymore.
00:36:32
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But dude, I mean, some of the wildest shit though, like, and I know this, I know some of this is depression, but I think it got to a point, it was never like this before the last few months. And it became the things she was doing was mostly out of spite. So she would like, we were like, her room was a disaster.
00:36:52
Speaker
You couldn't see the floor. She had she had dishes growing mold on them. Like she was sleeping in a bed with trash, like actual trash, like fast food, wrapper trash. Like her bed was full of it. Like it was like hoarders type shit. And like she wouldn't do any laundry. So it's it really smelled quite like you could smell the room from our living room sometimes if she opened the door for a minute. Like it was really crazy. It felt like crazy town shit. And like
00:37:22
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Uh, it was like, shoot, can you give me a ride to work? We're like, you need, you need to do, like you need to at least get your room in some semblance of order and bring your dishes out when you're done.
00:37:35
Speaker
And she would just ask us for us to work all the time and be like, until you do that, we're, you know, by this date, like at this date, we are no longer going to give you rides. If you cannot treat your space, your space, like this is an unhealthy lifestyle. Like you're here. We can help you figure out how to be an adult. Like you need to do something about it. And she didn't, and she hasn't for three months and no joke. Like we would just eventually have to go in there because we were running out of dishes and take them all out.
00:38:04
Speaker
And it would I'm talking like bowls of cereal that would sit there for like three weeks with milk and cereal still in them. Hey, what are we doing? I've never I'm like what I like what I don't I was I obviously am like I'm struggling for words. I wouldn't even know what I I don't know what to say. I wouldn't know how to approach now. I say that like I did a lot of that like my communication where there has been pretty
00:38:33
Speaker
much nothing. My wife has dealt with most of it. I didn't have a really a relationship with her anyway. I tried to, I think, but it was just always a little strange. It's a little strange to have like an 18 year old
00:38:49
Speaker
move into your house that you don't know at all. So I don't know, man, like, I just it's like, not again, I've texted you Casey about it. Like, I've said some flippant and awful things. Some serious sometimes like as jokes. It's just kind of like a
00:39:09
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can't save them all. Like, I guess that's it. Like, you know, you try, I overextended myself. I think, I think we put up with this shit for longer than anyone really would have needed to. I think maybe we even did her a disservice by not figuring out an arrangement in which we could change this, but I also wasn't going to be like, there's a street.
00:39:27
Speaker
And then throw all of her stuff outside. And there was no way she would leave. Like, she was just choosing to stay in that. And she had nowhere else to go. So it's like, I was like someone squat. It felt like so like it felt like I had a squatter in my house. Like someone goes in and go, this is my space now. And you're like, uh huh. And then that was it. Like, I felt like my part of my house was like stolen from me. And I was like a fucking hostage.
00:39:54
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Yeah, that's wild. You guys had a real Arafat Netanyahu relationship. Yeah, that's one way to put it. How does Casey have these references just locked and ready to go? I don't know. Casey, do you realize what a talent that is? Other people just can't do that.
00:40:12
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Well, you know, it's serving me well. I was like, does April know how lucky she is that she, she gets to get hot references like that just all the time. She probably can't get away from even if she tries. I think, uh, I think, I think she's has her fill of them at times. Hey, I am proud of Sam for, uh, for pulling Rachel Dulles all out of your hat. That's pretty good one.
00:40:37
Speaker
Yeah, that's pretty good. She's the classic. I feel like that one's going to be that one. I always keep that one in my front pocket. And that's where they're like, Oh, that would be great. Well, I missed it. Oh, we should. We should totally talk to her. Oh, my God. She hasn't only fans. Oh, well, even still, she probably wants the promotion.
00:40:59
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See, to me, that's not a, that's not necessarily a negative like it is for you, you know? Yeah. Well, I know where you're going with this, but it's, she has that kind of OnlyFans. Uh, I'm sorry. I don't want to be the naive homeschooler here. Isn't there only one type of OnlyFans? Like just different shades? Sure. And I mean- I'm just saying that I'm a sex positive person and Sam is not.
00:41:26
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Ah, that's my point. That's yeah, that's what he's saying. It has nothing to do with your personal situation. That feels like the worst way to refer to that. Yeah, exactly. You don't want people to know about business now. Yeah. Aaron's got one too. That's hot. I'm trying to imagine what would Casey named his some, some like alliteration of like the something perineum.
00:41:54
Speaker
Yeah, you know parched for idiom just thinking like uwu boy 69 or something like that, you know lube tech something or another Also the equivalent of a 12 year old gamer tag I just I just recreate like Chris Farley
00:42:19
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VR porn, that would be my niche, you know? Chris Harley style, I get it. Yeah, reenactment. Yeah, perfect. P.O.V. style. But Jeremiah pretended to be a confederate.
00:42:36
Speaker
Just there to film, which doesn't sound good. You a little bicycle-style submarine? No, again, not mine. Just someone else? I was just asking questions. I'd be too big for the submarine. We already covered this. That's right. They only put small children in those. That's right.
00:43:02
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Are we ready to, uh, to get into the spirit of the season? Yeah. This feels like a natural transition after the first half of this podcast. And now we did some serious stuff. Maybe we should have hit with the silly stuff first, but I'll imagine that the listeners are.
00:43:19
Speaker
interested in hearing about my life in that capacity, even though it feels slightly strange to hear. I think everyone will definitely be happy for you that, because you have been talking about your career switch for a while now. I think everyone will be happy to hear about that. Yeah. Less happy for those. And we're excited to hear about all the cool stories you'll tell us every week of what kids are telling you when you're counseling them. So that'll be fun. I'll just throw it all out there. No breach of confidentiality. That won't be a problem.
00:43:48
Speaker
Sure, whatever, I don't know. You just make every one of them, every sixth grader sign a waiver when they walk into your office. Like, hey, just so you know, everything you say is public domain. Yeah. As opposed to the usual, you go through like a confidentiality statement and instead I'll do the opposite of that and just be like, everything you say, I'm definitely going to repeat to a shitload of people. Have you ever been on a podcast? Would you like to?
00:44:16
Speaker
Do you want to talk about this on a podcast? And as long as it's a white guy, they'll say, yes, we know that. Tell them they can also talk about Minecraft or whatever kids do now. Yeah. Fortnite is pretty sure it's mostly Fortnite.
00:44:33
Speaker
Someone else's child on to talk about deconstruction. I'm sure that's gonna go great Invite a religious kid on and then we'll talk them out of their faith and then send them home. Yep. Perfect Okay, so it is Halloween and All Hallows Eve
00:44:54
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Yeah.
TikTok Christian Perspectives on Halloween
00:44:55
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And I thought in the, uh, in the spirit of the season, we would Halloween. You love that place and the spirit of spirit Halloween. Have I talked about that? I hate it. I hate it so much. I hate those Halloween stores. And it's like guaranteed that if a department store or anything in a strip mall goes out of business within 48 hours, there's a spirit Halloween sign hanging from it. It's like a fucking banner always held up by just rope.
00:45:24
Speaker
They're like the they're like the hermit crabs of retail. Again, Casey, how do you do this? So I have assembled I spent today pouring through
00:45:41
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TikTok looking for you know, some Christian takes on Halloween and handing it over to the Chinese Yeah, exactly. You know, they they they understand my dislike of Halloween now But I was uh, you know, I think like the typical line would be like hey I watched all of these so that you don't have to but I actually I this is the part of Halloween I love I think yeah, I have a Favorite thing to do on Halloween
00:46:09
Speaker
Oh my God, I love watching these videos. It's so funny. You have like an impeccable capacity for Christian cringe content. Yeah, just cringe in general. Like that's what I love. That's basically like my entire Instagram feed now. It's like animals and then just cringe content, mostly from TikTok.
00:46:33
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So I've assembled some clips that I think you guys will find interesting and uh, because the first, I, I broke this one up into two sections, but the first clip comes to us directly from a spirit Halloween. So are you ready for this? I'm ready.
00:46:53
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All right, I'm at this Halloween store right now and they have holy water. You know, it's a container that's really going to be filled with alcohol, mocking holy water, a holy hammer being drunk, the book of how to get smashed and hammered mocking the holy Bible. Then we have simple sister.
00:47:12
Speaker
dressing up as a nun. A nun is supposed to represent someone who's holy. It's in Catholicism. I'm not Catholic, but this is demonic. It's all evil. Look at all this stuff. Witchcraft. Mockery of Jesus Christ. Mockery of Christianity. This is evil. Turn away from your sins. Do not engage in Halloween. I'm here only to spread life.
00:47:35
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That's a weird last phrase to throw in there. I'm only here to spread light. Sounds like something someone says before they lock the door in the basement that they just put you in.
00:47:46
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He like padlocks the front doors of spirit Halloween and then just like sets a brush fire in the back. Yeah. Also, I think can't you make a pretty strong argument that Catholicism is making a mockery of Jesus, not mockery, but like definitely just building up some, you know, graven images and other things that are quote unquote, real Christians should be offended by.
00:48:09
Speaker
Well, I think a running theme with all of the people that we're going to hear from today is a real lack of interest in what the Bible says about things. They did not seem to be slowed down or deterred by any sort of like, you know, theology or anything like that. It's very off the cuff, interpretive style Christianity and, you know, big focus on demons.
00:48:38
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The irony of him being, it's like, if you're not Catholic, then holy water is pretend probably. So like,
00:48:54
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Protestants are like holy water. They're like, come on now. Like, what? Come on. So, I mean, Protestants use grape juice for communion. So they don't give a shit about holy water. That's for sure. I just the irony that he's like, thinking about it as a non Catholic in his biggest gripes with the
00:49:16
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being a drunk nun and making fun of holy water. It's like, those are just, that's a weird lane for you to pick. Like sounds like you're trying to find a way to be upset about something. Yeah. There's something hilarious about watching a person pick up like these just, you know, 50 cent cheapy mass produced plastic novelty items and in it in like,
00:49:45
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they like hold them in this regard that they're like some sort of unholy object imbued with like dark spiritual energy this like novelty bible that says the book the holy book of getting hammered or what
00:50:02
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And he is like dead serious about it. And I didn't catch it. This was kind of a long video. He had several videos about this topic. But like, at what point he's talking about how lost our society is. And he's like, I think about our society as in such a rotten place, an evil place, that we have entire stores dedicated to selling witchcraft. I think that this store is only open on Halloween.
00:50:30
Speaker
I think that it's only open on Halloween to sell witchcraft. You're in a Halloween city, bro. But it's not only open on Halloween. If a store only opened one day a year, that would definitely be one. Halloween stores are already bordering on the worst business model of all time.
00:50:52
Speaker
At least they're open more than one day. I don't know. There could be a store that only sells things for Mother's Day and Valentine's Day that only opens the day before both of those. And I think it would do just as much business. Right. They're mostly empty. I mean, why don't, you know, if you're thinking about going to Halloween city and picking up some stuff, why don't you cut out the middleman and just go dump a bunch of bottles and, you know, rubber pieces into the ocean?
00:51:17
Speaker
Like that's where all of it's going. Dumped it in. It's going to a landfill in middle America. Come on, be reasonable now. Yeah. Archaeologists like 3000 years from now are going to uncover like a rubber Biden mask and assign it some sort of spiritual significance just like this guy's doing. Ceremonial headwear, you know.
00:51:42
Speaker
Okay, so trick or treating tonight with the kids. We were with my brother-in-law and my nieces and my sister-in-law and my two of the kids that my kids go to school with live in my neighborhood and that they're friends with from school. They are in our neighborhood and
00:52:03
Speaker
So they were out trick or treating, but their dad stayed home to do, do they hand out candy, shit. And also he had like this horrible mask on and it was like, looked like the bottom jaw had been like kind of ripped off. It was just like really bloody. It was a pretty grotesque mask. And when it would go up to get candy, he would walk out dragging a shovel behind him and
00:52:29
Speaker
My daughter is just like, yeah, okay, whatever. Like just went up, grabbed candy, walked away. My son was like very like, I don't know about this, but he grabbed it and slowly walked away. And then
00:52:42
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My niece grabbed Candy, ran back and just started bawling her eyes out. The guy felt terrible. He's a nice guy. I hung around a little bit here and there. He felt so bad. My niece didn't want to
00:53:05
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She didn't want to admit that she was the only one that cried because she was scared. So we were like, what's wrong? And she was like,
00:53:13
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I'm just crying because I don't want Halloween to be over. She repeated that line for like the next like 10 minutes. I thought it was so funny because it's like pretty quick on her feet to think about a reason that she was crying and not own up to the fact that and she's like she's younger. She's she's four and they're just kind of own up to that like did not own up to it as at that age. I was like I was dying. I thought it was so funny. Yeah, that's pretty good.
00:53:44
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All right. Here's, here's the rest of his shopping trip here. Oh, a lot of y'all know I speak out against voodoo a lot. We got spirit of Halloween voodoo priestess. They want our children, they want you to be a voodoo priest. This stuff is witchcraft. When you put these stuff on, you're going to take on the spirit and become a witch. You're going to be a witch in your dreams. You're going to be a witch on Halloween. This is going to eat the mind and get free from this stuff.
00:54:10
Speaker
They made a movie about this in the 90s about a green mask that you would put on and say really stupid shit. Yeah. And then you'd put it on your dog and he'd pee on people. Yeah, it was hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. So in this one, he's holding up a voodoo priestess Halloween costume. It's like one of those ones that's all in one bag, you know, and with with, you know, probably the most flammable wig ever made.
00:54:38
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And yeah, so like by wearing a costume of a voodoo priestess, you are becoming a voodoo priestess and you will be one in your dreams and you'll invite all sorts of dark spiritual energy and stuff like that. These people are really obsessed with like portals and gateways. Everything opens a portal and a gateway and you're inviting Satan into your house by like
00:55:06
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I don't know, dressing as Fred Flintstone. Yeah. Just thinking critically, not that he is. So Spirit Halloween, I know they probably have like a thousand different costumes. I've never been inside one, but presumably like a couple hundred people nationwide have bought the voodoo priestess costume. Like I would guess if they're still selling it, uh, he doesn't think it's weird that he's like, he's not hearing about the exact thing he's describing happening. Or I'm assuming he would just think that's cause the media is in on it and suppressing that because they whatever. Cause it's the Satanist cabal that's.
00:55:36
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all involved in pedophilia so of course obviously yeah it's they it's it's like the them they want to uh erode the american judeo christian value by uh letting you dress up as salt and pepper shakers with your significant other but you know what it's working
00:56:02
Speaker
It's always the voodoo masks and the witch outfits that turn you into something bad. But for some reason, when you put on, I don't know, a karate suit, whatever you call it, and then a black belt, you're not magically good at karate. So I don't know. It's like equal exchange of things. And if it was, I would be more invested. I would be like, what, what suit can I put on that will make my life
00:56:27
Speaker
better and definitely it would probably be I would become the karate kid. I think that would be my first go to. I'm not really sure what other costumes there are that might be particularly need Superman. I feel like if Spirit Halloween bestows the magical powers, I feel like there's a lot of costumes that I would want to have. That feels like that's a really crappy 90s comedy. There would be a cult classic of like a Halloween store or whatever costume you put on, you turn into the thing.
00:56:56
Speaker
I would just put on my Under Armour tactical pants and my black rifle coffee t-shirt and turn into Ultimate Warrior, Ultimate Soldier of Fortune for Jesus. Okay, so you mentioned, why are we not hearing news stories about this? Are you ready to hear one? Oh, I am. Okay, this is secondhand information, but I think it still makes a powerful point.
00:57:23
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With Halloween coming up, a lot of you will want to play with a Ouija board, but this demon will make you think twice before you do. Throughout history, hundreds of people have been haunted by this one evil demon. In 2012, a small group of all three soldiers decided to play with the Ouija board for fun and they ended up waking up Zozo. Zozo possessed one of the soldiers
00:57:48
Speaker
and almost killed all of them in a car accident he created. Zozo is a fallen angel banished from heaven. He loves to mimic the voices of the dead who the user of the Ouija board wishes to talk to. He's a cool and psychotic demon who loves to play on peoples and insecurities. He will also tell you when and how you will pass.
00:58:11
Speaker
Uh, I thought Zozo was the name of the daughter from it's a wonderful life. No, Zuzu, that's Zuzu, Zuzu's petals. Nevermind. Where, where does he think Ouija boards came from? Also, I'm pretty out of touch with the kids. I'm pretty out of touch with the kids are doing these days, but like, he says many people want to play with the Ouija board. That's not really in the public consciousness that much anymore. Like, isn't a Ouija board just like an old society joke thing now? Where people- Yeah, they used to be made out of wood and
00:58:37
Speaker
We're nice. Now they're just made out of plastic. It's gone the way of everything else. And we know, God, I mean, what fucking idiot doesn't know that demons can't dwell in plastic? They need that solid wood, that solid oak, preferably a solid oak weed. I don't. Mattel really did demons dirty. They really essentially closed the gateways and the portals. So I don't know what these people are so worried about. Well, you know, I mean, there are people spreading the message.
00:59:06
Speaker
Nothing like in the Ouija board. Nothing like it. Celebrities are endorsing such evil, despicable objects. I mean, what can you do? Nothing like it, girls on the Ouija board. Well, you said celebrity. What celebrity was that?
00:59:25
Speaker
That's nothing like it, girl. She's a TikTok star. She eats various foods and she has dead soulless eyes and she goes, nothing like candy apples, nothing like it. And that's Elaine and she's now monetized on TikTok. She has 600 videos of her eating different foods and being like,
00:59:47
Speaker
nothing like Paz, nothing like it. So somebody, somebody who has like that lane, do they know? Like, are they aware of how stupid it is? And they just struck gold that people are watching? Or did are they just delusional enough that like they actually think they're making good content and it just so happens there's enough other idiots out there that agree?
01:00:10
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Well, I think both exist. This particular woman isn't, she's, she's not doing this, ironically. I'm the reason people are watching. I think she's like, wow, people like this. I'll give them more. And then they just keep watching it. And they're like,
01:00:29
Speaker
Just not laughing. Good job, society. Yeah. This poor girl, she's so good for her. She's monetizing, right? But she must have a cameo now. And she seems to be posting all of the cameos that she does. And people are requesting all sorts of things. So now, you scroll through her posts and it's
01:00:53
Speaker
It'll be like something about like, nothing like Dave's birthday, nothing like it. And then the next one will be like, nothing like giving a blumpkin at the park, nothing like it. And she like has no idea. She has no idea. And she's obviously reading it as she's saying it. And like, I kind of feel I think she's fun. I don't like her, but people are taking advantage of her.
01:01:18
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But yeah, so Ouija boards, I don't know. I mean, did you know about Zozo? Did you know how many people throughout history have been possessed? Hundreds. Hundreds throughout all of history. And the worst thing that he can cite that happened was a car wreck that supposedly Zozo called.
01:01:40
Speaker
That's different than all the other car wrecks that also happened across the country on that same. In my Pentecostal church growing up, every time someone got the demons cast out of them, no one ever mentioned a Ouija board. Not saying that's proof either way. It just defined an interest based on the logic of what we're watching. That is enough proof.
01:02:00
Speaker
That's all I mean, but it's like personal experience. How much did they talk about Zozo? Because maybe that's just one method for him. Like he skateboards. He also in line skates like he's a Ouija board, but he also he lives backwards on the records like at the same time. I was trying to think of how to say it. You do it. He also happens to be a flying
01:02:29
Speaker
animal of sorts that instructs a rebellious lion about how to live his life, I think. Is this the Lion King? I wasn't allowed to watch that, but that sounds like the Lion King. Okay, you weren't allowed to watch the Lion King. There were spirits in the Lion King. Look, man, I grew up homeschooled, okay? Did you watch Pocahontas?
01:02:50
Speaker
No, definitely not. And I grew up, my hometown is like directly next to where Pocahontas actually happened. All right. I need to follow this through. Did she? That was in Massachusetts. That was a whole different thing. What other Disney movies? Oh, I haven't seen most of them. I've never seen Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty. I have seen Peter Pan.
01:03:12
Speaker
Well, that's fine because they only just, you know, use racial slurs against in Native Americans. OK, but there weren't any spirits. It's fine. It's whatever. That would be a pretty lame game because I haven't seen most of like the classic Disney movies. I'm fascinated by this. Yeah. Some hold up. Some are still super funny. Like I have to watch the sword and the stone once in a while because it's hilarious. And is it?
01:03:42
Speaker
I think so. That was my favorite as a kid, so maybe I'm biased, but I think it's actually hilarious.
01:03:49
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It's hard to go back and watch some of those if you've never seen them. I watched Aladdin for the first time three or four years ago with some friends who like that was their favorite movie growing up and they finished it and I was just like, Oh, cool. Like, I mean, it's like a kid's movie from the nineties. Like there's nothing bad about it, but as an adult, there's, I'm not getting anything out of it. Yeah. We did that exact same thing with Hocus Pocus. Like I don't think I ever saw it as a kid and everybody watched it.
01:04:16
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Yeah, I don't know. I think it's like most of those movies you have. It's it's just it's more about the the nostalgia than anything else. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like when I was a kid, I wasn't I don't think I was allowed to watch Hocus Pocus. That's probably the reason I didn't watch it. But I don't recall ever thinking that seems that seems good. Not that I had good taste or was I had any good understanding of what like quality media was, but I don't know. I
01:04:46
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If I wanted to have watched it, I probably would have somewhere. I managed to watch most things that I wanted to. And I never cared. And then even getting older in high school and college, people would still talk about it. And I'm like, I don't, I don't, I still don't want to. And I've still never seen it. And my wife was like, we should watch it with the kids. And I'm like, I will, but I, I don't, I don't want to. I don't have any interest in watching it.
01:05:11
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Yeah, I don't have a problem with witchcraft, but I don't believe in Bette Midler. Yeah. I don't know who that is. You don't know who Bette Midler is? No. She's in Hocus Pocus. You probably recognize her. It's fine. I'm pathetic. Let's move on. All right. What's your next TikTok, Casey?
01:05:33
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Y'all, witchcraft will literally change your entire appearance. Think about it. It's a counterfeit power. So you come in agreement with hell, you begin to look like hell. And I truly believe what you're seeing in the movies is not just something that people make up. No, these are literal demonic beings that are hideous. Think about it. If the very glory of the Lord changed even Moses' appearance, what makes you think that depletion of his glory wouldn't change yours? This is why I truly believe Satan is the ugliest being in all of the world alongside his demons. Let's not what the Bible says.
01:06:03
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The closer you get to him, the more he radiates through you. You begin to literally look like him. No matter what you're going through, even during the times where he's purging you, you are looking more like Jesus. All beauty comes from the Lord. Satan can only masquerade as an angel of light. There's nothing beautiful about him, nor is it within him. It's just something to think about. It's just something to think about. Three immediate thoughts. One, as Jeremiah mentioned,
01:06:32
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Yeah. Pretty sure the devil probably looks pretty good. I'd fuck him is what I'm trying to say. He probably looks great. You guys are too hung up on that old book. That's what I'm saying. The other one. Get this. I only just learned this the other day. She mentioned Moses's appearance being changed. Apparently there has been some stat like they've uncovered like ancient art of
01:07:02
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of Moses and he has like, he has like horns. And apparently like the, the appearance is changing. Yeah, I guess so. But I guess that's something, you know, that was, uh, associated with, with like, uh, you know, human God hybrids or, or, uh, people who, I don't know, the gods felt were favorable upon or something like that. But yeah, came down from the Mount with that Akhenaten forehead.
01:07:30
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Yeah, apparently. That's what that's how we portrayed in some art to signify that change that was reported oh so long ago. I guess in some way like some translations will say something about like it's like a veil but that's kind of like a poor I guess that's a poor translation. The word that they use actually is only used there and it never shows up again throughout all of
01:07:55
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Hebrew scriptures, so – So just making words up then, huh? So – but it's similar to a word that's used to signify these people who are from – you know, within other cultures that are – I have a soul pen. I have a soul pen. I thought that was kind of neat that Moses apparently has been portrayed with horns in ancient art. Well, April said she remembered something about Moses looking like 20 years older or something like that when he came down.
01:08:23
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yeah i remember something about that too but i don't know i'd have to go read again that's kind of how i felt portrayal of mose is in uh the 10 commandments they did that yeah okay well this is a mandela effect where we all remember that bose has supposedly looked older but we can't like quote a verse or something well it doesn't he came down from the mount looking like he's done two terms in the oval office
01:08:54
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He went in young and spry and came out Morgan Freeman. He was apparently Moses was up there for a while too. I mean, enough time for people to build new gods and jerk each other off around it. So what do you think was happening? What more holy symbol is there than a cow? You know, that's what I live around cows and I could just not
01:09:20
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It's hard for me to look at a cow and be like, that's it. That's the whole thing. People didn't have the. Yeah, like how they have other animals. They had like lions and leopards and majestic water in the world at the time. They didn't think that majestic lobsters used to be a like dirt, dirt bug that only poor people ate. Okay. All I'm saying is you don't know what they thought. But you don't know what they thought was majestic. Like maybe lions were just annoying.
01:09:48
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A cow will look at you without breaking eye contact and it will stick its tongue into each nostril individually. It's really talented. What are you saying? All of the other animals that we're talking about, lobsters included,
01:10:10
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evolutionarily figured out how to not shit all over themselves every time they go to the bathroom. I'm not saying anything that doesn't change its posture to poop. I would say lobsters live on the bottom of the ocean, so I'm pretty sure there's plenty of poop around lobsters. They live in a bidet, so they're fine. They got clean ass cheeks. They live in the pooping section of the pool. They live in it.
01:10:37
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It doesn't matter. It's one of my favorite stories from when I was a kid. If it's a saltwater pool, you can pee and poop in it. If it's someone has a saltwater pool. No, no sandals.
01:10:51
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I can seriously see someone convince you of pee, but I don't think there's nothing that you can put into a pool that's going to take care of poop that you want to be in the pool at the same time. You scared me out. We were flying into California the other day, and I was looking at how many of these houses have pools, and I was thinking to myself, how weird is it to have a concrete pond in your backyard that you literally have to just dump
01:11:15
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wheelbarrow loads of chemicals in so that it doesn't make you sick. Yeah. It's like if you've had that pool for a while, you're swimming in the same water that was put in there 20 years ago. That's crazy. I guess so. Well, what's your next TikTok, Casey?
01:11:38
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All right, well, this one's more informative. Here we go. I did have a scared point. A security check at LAX Airport in Los Angeles led to a disturbing discovery. All thousands suspected fentanyl pills were found inside what appear to be bags and boxes of Skittles, whoppers and sweet tarts. Seizure of the deadly drugs prompted officials to warn parents to check their children's Halloween candy. First of all, this video is for educational purposes only. I don't know how many people this video is going to verify. So share this video to everybody that you know.
01:12:06
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If you're watching this video, do not celebrate Halloween at all, guys. It is not worth losing your life over a piece of candy. It's going to be a lot of demonic activity that's going to take place this day, and it's going to be a lot of bad things that's going to happen. Please be warned, do not celebrate Halloween. Just buy your own candy. I'm begging you.
01:12:28
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Support big candy. Well, probably like the big candy corporations make it with like a board of stem cells or something. So you can't do that either. I think my me eating whoppers directly supports like murder of unborn children.
01:12:47
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Well, aren't Whoppers made by Nestle, Nestle? Yeah. So yeah, pretty directly. Nestle owns every other company, including abortion. Yeah. I think Nestle, they opened plenty of abortion clinics, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. And you get a Snickers on your way out the door so you don't get low blood sugar.
01:13:07
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Yeah, that's the plasma clinic. Yeah. Oh my God. So I've, I have, I have recently learned about the facility near me where I could go donate plasma if things get tight. Now I imagine they will a little bit for me because I, uh, one of the things I didn't mention with my new job is.
01:13:27
Speaker
I'm taking a fairly substantial pay cut, one that I'll definitely, definitely feel. And I am thinking that now is a good time to get back in to my college roots and start selling my blood plasma again. I could make
01:13:43
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I think I could make an extra $900 a month. $900 a month? Yeah. It's lucrative around here, man. They're not fucking around. They need that shit. Yeah, that's way more than they paid in Lynchburg. Lynchburg, you could make a max of like $100 a week, I think. Yeah. I think it was, I think so. It was like the first time in the week, it was like $40. And then if you went back two more times, it was like, oh, no, no. They wanted to incentivize you to go back more, so it was like,
01:14:12
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a ramping scale per week. So it was like, it might've been like 20, 30, and then 40. How much plasma can your body make? Apparently it makes a bunch, but, uh, you know, the downside is like, you're basically giving yourself the flu every week. Yeah. I did feel run down for that couple of months that I was doing that. And also that's where they send all the practice nurses where they don't know how to find veins. Good. And you saw a lot of blood squirt.
01:14:38
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a lot frequently every time I was there. Yeah, man, Sam, I don't know if this sounds like a great idea because that was young Sam too. That was like Sam in better physical condition probably. How dare you. Not middle aged Sam, middle aged father of two sirs. My physical condition is not in great shape these days. Dude, I just got done hiking all over Zion and trust me, I understand.
01:15:01
Speaker
The recovery time is a lot longer than it used to be. I honestly, I didn't drink really at all. Well, I didn't drink before I was 21 because Jesus Christ is Lord. And I barely drank afterwards. It was like, I turned 21. I didn't even really like beer that much, have a beer, maybe, maybe two if I was feeling crazy. And these were like 12 ounce beers of like your four and a half percent kind of thing. So I wasn't, I didn't get,
01:15:30
Speaker
I probably, I don't think I got drunk until my mid twenties. Um, and that first drunk was probably like four loggers. You know what I mean? Like you're like, I overdid it. I should have had something to eat. It was like pre dinner. I had an extra beer and it was like feeling silly, but
01:15:47
Speaker
All that to say, people look at that like it's like, I don't know, I felt a little lame sometimes in college. I stood my ground. It was easier to hold that line at a Christian college than maybe if I wasn't at a Christian college, but I would give anything to go back to those days.
01:16:06
Speaker
That's the, that it's like, it's so funny to think about kids feeling shitty about not drinking more when they're in college or feeling weird about it. You're like, you are better than everybody else. Just don't, just don't like you don't have to, and you will definitely never regret it.
Personal Stories and Experiences
01:16:23
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You will never regret not liking beer more, uh, because it gets you fat. It just gets you fat. Also, alcoholism is real. That's a bigger deal, but I don't know. Well,
01:16:37
Speaker
I mean, sure. No, it is. It runs. It runs pretty rampant in my family. So it's something that I take seriously, but probably not seriously enough. Given the amount of fat I have on me from beer, I probably could take it more seriously. Do you remember going to the plasma clinic and like you'd be sitting there, you're all in a row with
01:17:06
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a whole litany of different people. And you look down the line and somebody's plasma would be a different color. Yes. It was weird looking. Some of them like a healthy person like April's look like water because she drank water. Mine look like urine. Yeah, because I only drank Mountain Dew. I only drank urine. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then once in a while you look down the line, you're like,
01:17:35
Speaker
Why is that person's green and why are you keeping it? Just like stomping down the floor drain in front of him and tell him he can't come back. You can't put that into the medical system.
01:17:52
Speaker
The worst way to make money I've ever. Yeah, it's terrible, but I might try it again. We'll see. Maybe like how much could you make driving for Uber in the evenings or something? Like I'm trying to think of anything else actually might be the better option for me. I'd be better for your body for sure. I am looking. I am going to start looking for like I want to find a part time job to just do like one night a week because I have so many free nights. Please subscribe to the podcast. We could say I'm off the needle.
01:18:20
Speaker
Yeah, we could start a Patreon or some sort of support thing. And if you guys, you know, care enough to have me not go sell my blood plasma or get a part time job to not be able to have, I mean, essentially have no nights free at that point between school, the podcast. And then if I find a part time evening job on top of my
01:18:41
Speaker
full-time job, that would, I'd love to not do that.
John Ramirez and His Claims
01:18:45
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So maybe just, we could start pleading and begging people to support the. Yeah. Yeah. Think of the poor car accident victim who has to get like his filtered IPA juice. That's not fair. It's better for everybody. There's better plasma out there. It's not fair. Okay. So this is the last guy, but I got a few clips from him because he's my favorite.
01:19:09
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This guy has been making the rounds and He is a former Satanist Very serious Satanist maybe a warlock. I don't know what the classifications scale is like like this Such an organ canter type character like his backstory is so lazy unless you're a person who wants to believe it and
01:19:36
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so badly, you know, to explain why Fast and the Furious 6 has like a, I don't know, a pentagram hidden in a wheel design or something like that. Here we go. This is, this is the Reverend John Ramirez.
01:19:52
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Tell us a little bit about where you were in relation to Satanism and worshiping the devil. We need to get him on.
01:20:22
Speaker
I baptized my daughter to the dark side at the age of 11. So that was my whole entire life. I mean, I want to talk to this kid and slept witchcraft, astral projecting. I will astral project over region, leave my body, astral project, curse the region, because if I can curse the region, I can capture the people. That's a lot to unpack there. How many people did he capture? We have to talk to this guy, dude.
01:20:46
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Oh, yeah, he's he is just like words out. This guy can barely talk. He's he just like just a little word or witchcraft.
01:20:55
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And he's all over TikTok and YouTube, like people sharing his clips and stuff like that. Like I ran into him several times, so I tracked down this interview. But so he supposedly grew up. I think what he says is that he comes from a long line of witches and warlocks. And so he grew up in the satanic church or grew up in demon church, I think is how he phrased it. That's what they call it.
01:21:22
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Yeah. And, uh, even in church. Can you tell us where one of these demon churches is? I don't think he would for your safety. Oh, okay. Got it.
01:21:35
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I appreciate it. Yeah, there was so much like, dude, every clip of this guy is that it's just him like vomiting out random words. Like it's like he doesn't use any verbs. He only like spits out nouns and you have to fill in the rest. It's everything's connected by semicolons and commas. It's like you think you're talking to him over a bad connection.
01:22:04
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He baptized his daughter to the dark side at the age of 11 which uh, yeah, so It's funny to me because like somebody like this guy. Okay, because what do you okay when you hear somebody nowadays talk about uh devil worship and Illuminati and stuff like that like what is
01:22:26
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the main subject that comes up in those discussions. The New World Order.
01:22:32
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I was going to say child sex trafficking, right? That's everything is tied together by like child sex trafficking and child sacrifice and all of that kind of stuff. And like, it's, it reminds me of like what we've talked about so much listening to, you know, like hearing people share their testimony that came from like a quote unquote wildlife before it. Like there's things that you can't, you can't cop to in your big elaborate testimony.
01:23:01
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And so for him, it's all only stuff that like Christians would care about. It's like, I was drinking animal blood. I was performing rituals. I was cast in spells. I was a witch for hire and I would throw like, I would cause like people to get sick and stuff like that for money and everything. And it's like, where's the child's sacrifice? Like how much of that did you do? Yeah. Like why would you admit how many, how many kids did you diddle and then sacrifice? I would love to know.
01:23:31
Speaker
How much it costs for like a run of the mill flu like spell. That's fine. You know, well, does he just cast it from a distance or does he astral project so he can make sure he like AC 130 sit down on you directly on the projection? I assume is more accurate, but definitely must be a little bit more.
01:23:52
Speaker
I just imagine like him, his, his being like floating over your head and then him just like putting a finger down his throat, trying to make himself throw up on you. That's how it all works, but he can't quite make it happen. So he just keeps like dry heaving above your head. Would you believe that this guy, he said his pastor, John Ramirez, um, would you believe that on his Instagram, there's a picture of his sister presenting a painted portrait to president Donald Trump of president Donald Trump. You're looking over his shoulders. He gazes upon a cross on a hill.
01:24:22
Speaker
I've seen this picture. Yeah, it's just apparently. Yep. Yeah. What? What part of Trump's cabinet was John Rivera's Minister of Interior or something like that? I really we should see if we can try to talk to this guy. I think that would be amazing. Amazing. Yes. Oh, he does an eight week course. You could take the course that probably gets you everything you need to know.
01:24:54
Speaker
I don't know. I'm just looking at quotes from it where he's the type of guy who looks, he's definitely post pictures of himself on his Instagram. Like it's a picture of him with a quote by him about something profound and he posts that content.
01:25:09
Speaker
Awesome. That's cool. Just profit things. You can infiltrate this course. That'd be cool. He has 71,000 followers. He's made 7,000 posts. He's busy. He's really busy. A lot of demons to fight. I like the fruitless endeavor of fighting demons because they don't...
01:25:28
Speaker
I mean, who do we talk to? Um, that was maybe we haven't aired it yet. It was a Casey, uh, might've been Casey parks. Uh, but that when you cast a demon out of somebody that the demon has to go into something else. So you're just, I mean, it's just fucking
01:25:46
Speaker
Demon demonic musical chairs, basically, like you're not, they never go anywhere. Like they, all this talk about fighting demons and they literally just relocate and you have to like keep that shit going. Yeah, you're pushing the demons around like with them. Be safe and cast them all into Bette Midler.
01:26:05
Speaker
Uh, so I know you want to know how much these courses are. So, uh, the course I went to look at the first one is called unmasking the devil. Um, now the, the individual teaching is also a striper song. Probably a lot of these sound like they could be striper songs. So I'm asking the devil, it's eight video teachings, the unmasking, the devil ebook, digital workbook, three live Q and A's with John and arsenal prayers from heaven. I don't know what that is.
01:26:31
Speaker
That sounds like a World War I shock and awe campaign. It's calling in a heavenly airstrike on your boss. Now that's $59 for just the individual plan. However, if you would want to do the group one, which is for up to 10 people, that gives you all the same stuff plus a facilitator's guide for $149. But there's also the I'm All In bundle, which includes the unmasking the devil, spiritual warfare boot camp, special ops,
01:26:59
Speaker
and on the front lines, which has 32 video teachings and 12 pre-recorded Q and A's and three live Q and A's. So that's unmasking the devil. Oh, we need to get in those live Q and A's. Do we have at least 10 listeners that want to get in on this and ask really good questions?
01:27:19
Speaker
Yeah. You know what? I was about to say like, oh, he's got an ebook. He's got a workbook. He's got a bunch of prerecorded things. I can respect the hustle if he's got the resources to back it up. But when you told me the price, that's where it loses me. Because it's too low of a value proposition?
01:27:39
Speaker
It's too low of a price. Like if you're going to hustle people, ask for 1,500 bucks at least. I know. I was shocked by that. 60 dollars. Get out of here with your cheapy spiritual warfare class. Well, he wants it to be accessible to the common man, but not so much need to give it away for free, okay? Exactly. He needs to pay bills. Okay. But he wants to equip the saints, you know? What kind of prayer strike is he doing again?
01:28:04
Speaker
Uh, they're called arsenal prayers from heaven. All of those words are capitalized. $60 is not much of an arsenal. That's a Russian weapon arsenal. Well, I don't know if you get to request arsenal prayers or is it just like a prayer blanket where like the, says he's prayed over every single one of the blankets where they get sent to you. Like you might just be included in smallpox blankets. Yeah. Uh, no, that's a different thing. Um, same group of people, but I have to share it with Donald Trump. Cause I feel like he probably plays for him a lot.
01:28:34
Speaker
You get to, you actually, if you donate enough, you get the blanket that Donald Trump put over his lap while he masturbated on the couch in the White House living room. So while watching Fox and Friends? Yeah, exactly. Now, I'm saying for $59, we can apparently get into three live Q and A's with them if they're actually live. Guys, that actually seems like a great price. That sounds like a lot of fun. I would go ahead and touch these with you.
01:29:04
Speaker
If we could like maybe crowdsource some questions through the discord, uh, you know, really find out some stuff. I don't think we even need them on the podcast. I think we can get all the answers right there. Like we'll be recording the podcast. He just won't know.
01:29:17
Speaker
I don't think this guy leaves his home turf very often. He probably stays in his way. Well, not in his physical form. Do you want to hear more from him? Oh, absolutely. All right. This is from the same interview. This is my favorite one.
01:29:37
Speaker
People say, it's just fun candy, kids are having costumes on. What you said is much more. The candy, I never said this before, but these candy, people from different walks of life pray over these candies, witchcraft. They pray over the candies. You knock on people's door, you don't know the person, you do not know she's a witch.
01:29:56
Speaker
Okay, you don't know if she's a witch, she's doing Wicca, she's practicing New Age, and you're knocking her door, and you're coming in legal rights of this witch, or this woman, or this person's practicing this stuff, giving you this kind of candy. Now you're taking that stuff home, you put that stuff into your body. And on top of that, I'm Tom Levine, set.
01:30:15
Speaker
Out of his mouth, he was the ruler of the Church of Satan. Out of his mouth, he said, I want to thank every Christian parent for allowing their child to celebrate Halloween one time a year. You only celebrated one time a year.
01:30:39
Speaker
quoting Anton Lavey, who founded the Church of Satan back in the whatever. He was some douche that played a Calliope and wore a lot of black makeup. He was a putt. There's so many videos of people like posting John Ramirez quoting Anton Lavey, supposedly saying, I want to thank all the Christian parents out there for letting their kids worship the devil on Halloween every year.
01:31:02
Speaker
And I looked all over trying to find anything corroborating the fact that he said that. It's not out there that I can find. In fact, the Church of Satan has responded to it, and they're like, yeah, we don't think he ever said that. Yeah, I'm doing the same thing right now. I'm Googling that I can only find churches saying that that was a quote from him, and I found that same thing from the Church of Satan saying no. So that checks out. But also, who fucking cares if he said that?
01:31:31
Speaker
Look at the guy started the church of Satan. His entire goal in life was to be a day saying anti-religious guy. Like we get what he was doing. So to just be like, I want to thank all the Christian parents for letting it's like,
01:31:51
Speaker
It's like when you go to a comedy show and you just write down word for word what they say and you're like, can you believe they said that? It's like you lose the con, even if he did say it, he might've been saying like, you could say that jokingly as someone who thinks it's funny that Christian parents let their kids do that. And they still, that doesn't give it power. That doesn't mean anything. The only people that take Anton LaVey seriously were Anton LaVey, who was a nerd.
01:32:16
Speaker
And then Christians who like to quote him and talk about him and, you know, play videos of his Halloween, you know, dinner parties where they, I don't know, I guess a bunch of goth people with no death metal to listen to humping.
01:32:35
Speaker
John Ramirez on his Instagram has a recent picture of himself in a church sanctuary with some guys who look like they're dressed like Christian bikers, which is a particular type of tough. And he's wearing athletic trainer shoes, no socks, pants that are cuffed just high enough that you can see he's not wearing socks and a black t-shirt that says spiritual gangster. Oh, wow.
01:33:03
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That's good. That's terrible.
01:33:09
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But yeah, so, you know, who is praying over your Halloween candy? I just, with all this stuff, I just want to be like, what is it? Yeah, just pray over for your kids and like, not all fear. Then you're, the candy safe. Just sanitize it. It's like, that feels, uh, Steve was sent an all to my body.
01:33:41
Speaker
In my body to your service. Oh my gosh, is there a quotes channel in the discord yet? He does kind of talk like Dr. Steve Brule. That's pretty accurate. That is what he sounds like. Oh, man.
01:34:00
Speaker
Oh, how did they ever talk about candy? And they're praying over it, ya dummy. You're like, ah. Just take and buy your own piece of candy, ya turkey.
01:34:14
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Oh man. So, uh, John Ramirez, uh, it looks like he, he did a live like cast thing on Lindell TV on Frank speech.com. Oh, what a perfect pair up. Yeah. Oh man. I want to, I'd love a buddy cop movie of him and Mike Lindell. I would prefer like a more of like a twins type movie.
01:34:39
Speaker
Yeah, that Oh, okay. I like that would be fun. That's what I'm going for. Oh, he also he also posted a picture of the the Queen of England rest in peace with the caption beautiful spirit powerful woman of God would be miss
01:34:58
Speaker
Yeah, has anyone ever described the Queen as a powerful woman of God? Like, I'm not trying to take anything away from her, but like, I don't think that's how people ever referred to her. I think it's pretty well established that you couldn't take anything away from her. She took things away from other people. Yeah, no, I get it.
01:35:18
Speaker
Oh, Christ. Alright, there we go. Last one. Another John Ramirez. People celebrate Halloween, right? I'm gonna be a little mermaid. A marine spirit. A marine spirit. You're gonna be a water spirit. You're gonna change your identity for one night. Open doors and gateways and portals. Now the devil own legal rights. Don't make it sound so cool. Because you open the door because you want to dress a little aerial.
01:35:48
Speaker
So I can open up a portal to the water zone by dressing like a little bird mate. I mean, that does sound pretty cool. He's you know, it's like little Ariel. He makes it sound when he says that it sounds.
01:36:01
Speaker
Perverted. Yeah, it was just like you just like little Ariel. I agree. That does sound like. Why did you say little like? I don't know what you wanted. Yeah, you want to dress like little Ariel. You want. Oh, that's what you're going to do. I have a question. I've got I've been a hot dog for like six Halloweens in the past 10 years. OK, if I invited in like the ghost of Oscar Meyer or something like that. The ghost of Nathan. The ghost of Nathan.
01:36:31
Speaker
Thanks. More excerpts from his Instagram. He has this comic that someone drew that says marriage and it's a drawing of a plane. And one wing says man. The other one says woman. Now you're not going to guess where this is going. The next one is I'm flying into the Twin Towers.
01:36:50
Speaker
No, not that. It says day marriage, and it has two wings on the same side that says man, man. And no way on the other side of the caption is something think about world with the hmm emoji. Really makes you think, oh, wait, there's a comment.
01:37:13
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from a child of Christ 95 comments and says, I actually was gay. I don't identify no more. I struggle still, but I repented and allow God to take it away. I'm 26 year old, have been gay. Don't identify it with anymore. Thanks to our Lord and savior, Jesus. Again, this part of the sin of my life, he's volunteering all this. This part of the sin of life just started happening where I let it go. So pray for me, brothers and sisters, for full deliverance. I'm fighting this battle because I love Jesus more than a pride rainbow flag.
01:37:40
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claiming to be a homosexual i don't want it it's not my portion to hold anymore please pray for me and brothers and sisters in christ it doesn't sound like he's beaten homosexuality yet to be honest it sounds like a man who is still fighting that battle really hard and i'm not trying to take anything away from him but uh
01:37:57
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Yeah. That's like when you talk that roundabout, you're really trying to convince yourself that things are going better than they are. Yeah. Like I actually feel kind of bad for that guy. It's, it's, it's fucking terrible that he has to feel that way. But.
01:38:13
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Oh man. Oh, he's like so, you know, his Instagram is just amazing cringe. Casey, if you haven't spent time on it, like there's so many posts. It doesn't look like he's carefully curating either. Like it looks like he's just going for it. Nobody's, nobody's posting for him. He posts himself. Yeah. Yeah.
01:38:38
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the guy who's interested in the PR team. He keeps talking about legal things. That's something like he mentioned a couple of times and like, did you guys ever hear that from visiting pastors at your church talking about like giving legal rights to the devil, your legal rights? Is this a court of heaven thing? I've never heard of any of that. Man, Sam, you didn't grow up in a Pentecostal church, did you? No, no, no, no. Oh, you missed out on so much.
01:39:02
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legal rights. Yeah, yeah, legal rights. You've got legal rights in the court of heaven. I didn't realize that the devil and his followers followed the legal system. I'm not making that term up. Have you ever heard of the court of heaven?
01:39:18
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No, this is a new life. Oh, man, yeah, you got some reading together. I like to still learn new things on this shit. Yeah, new revelation, let's say. There's the court of heaven where cases are tried in the spiritual realm. And I don't want to get some of the details wrong so some of the listeners can correct me. But yeah, there are legal rights that the devil can have over you based on things that you say. But you can appeal with prayer, and then you have to exercise the legal authority that God's given you.
01:39:46
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What a bunch of fucking horseshit. How is it that how, how is it that we're in this endless battle with the devil and God has just been like, I know it's going to be tough for him, but I'll give you, here are your rights. Here are your rights. You have these and it's going to make everyone's life over here really hard.
01:40:08
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but this is where I'm willing to meet you as opposed to like the God of all power who just could be like, you have no
Social Movements and Extremes
01:40:15
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rights. And then they're just, it would be that like, what is this game? You can't pretend to ask make believe game. Teach the youth pastor to not touch the preteens. You have to teach them what their legal rights are in the spirit realm so they can defend themselves against the demonic attack, Sam.
01:40:32
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Yeah. Plus rules make everything more fun. I think it was like a workaholics quote where they were like, they met this guy that was like the dude that still like lived at the college and partied really hard every night and he was like, rules make drinking so fun. Here's another hot quote from John Ramirez's Instagram. If medicine worked, you wouldn't need to refill your prescription.
01:41:01
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If prayer worked, you wouldn't have to keep doing it. That was quick, too. That was really quick. Man. You just blow on your finger gun after that one. Oh, guys, here's maybe the best one. So he's got this thing that it's like a black background. It has a red cross and it says COVID over the cross, which I'm like, that's weird. But underneath that he's written COVID COVIDID. Christ offers victory in diseases.
01:41:30
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Now, I'm not a grammarian, but I don't think Christ offering victory in diseases is correct. That's bad. Victory from diseases. It's what you want. Victory in diseases. That sounds like Christ is giving you the decision for your victory. You got it. You got to give your anyway on the end. The end. The end. What? What do they call that? Yeah, that's correct. Oh, man. I feel like it's not, but I'm going to run with it.
01:42:00
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Uh, I love John Ramirez. I think everybody should follow him and take his courses and, uh, you know, learn to fight spiritual battles. I do love the fact that like all of these people, they, they love talking about like how.
01:42:15
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any sort of contact with like these seemingly benign objects, open spiritual portals and gateways that can infect you with demonic energy and stuff like that. Meanwhile, we'll like just listen to the worst filth available like, like reptilian conspiracies and hollow earth and the moon's station and space is fake and birds aren't real and
01:42:44
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You know, just like all of that, fine. Invite that into your house because it's teaching your kids to question things, you know, maybe eventually. Everything except for our teaching. What they're questioning is how much contact am I going to have with my parents once I go to college?
01:43:07
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Oh, boy. I do think it's super weird that all of this like weird satanic panic stuff is like back. Yeah, maybe never left. Maybe it's just more visible now. But okay, I, well, we switched over to Muslim panic for about a decade and a half. So I think we just were back from that now. Yeah, doesn't that seem like the good old days now?
01:43:32
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Muslims. Well, hey, somebody's got to take it on the chin. That sounds like a problem. I don't know, Sam. Okay, so I saw this, uh, this quote this week that like, I don't know. I don't want to open a can of worms here in a more serious discussion, but I, I think this is like very interesting to think about. It says,
01:43:56
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Social and political movements in the age of the attention economy have no breaks, no incentive to compromise or reach a settlement. The incentive instead is to become more extreme versions of themselves to remain quote unquote attention worthy. This works right up to the moment it doesn't.
01:44:13
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And I think that explains like almost everything that's going on around us. Like, why are we back in satanic panic mode? Well, because, uh, you know, it gets clicked and that's, I don't know, move on to something else that gets the same attention with it. It's just, just change the vehicle.
01:44:32
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It's a vehicle change. Speaking of getting clicks, kind of just expressive. I feel like we're winding down a little bit. I was just expressive frustration.
Church Conspiracies and Humorous Takes
01:44:40
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I was sitting in the airport getting ready to fly home and I got a Facebook notification. Like Facebook randomly decides you want to be notified that someone you don't aren't really that close to like to post from someone or made an update. You're like,
01:44:55
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Right. I didn't ask for this, but it's someone I used to work with when I used to work for a church. I used to work for the church I grew up in and someone who currently works there who is very middle aged posted a video that the title seemed interesting. It was called Save Our Kids. And part of me was like, oh, no. And this is like small town Pentecostal church. And I clicked on it and it turns out the church is full on producing like covid conspiracy videos now.
01:45:24
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Amazing. Under a current events thing and they have someone on staff who's editing together terrible conspiracy clips of, you know, the out of context clips of Fauci saying something and then Robert Kennedy Jr saying something and then Trump saying something and like, you know, just doing that whole thing. And I texted my dad who was on the board of directors for the church.
01:45:46
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And I was like, hi, what's going on? Apparently, he stepped down from the board over this, which may be very proud of him. But apparently, I've missed a lot. They've started doing that in the past year. Dang. Yeah. And it was very like, oh, man, I didn't need to learn all of this today, because I started getting down the rattle. And this is the pastor that married my wife and I. I used to work there. I grew up in that church. And I was like, oh.
01:46:13
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That is a bummer for something that he believed in. Yeah. Yeah. That is really cool. Oh no, my dad's a real one, but, but it's still like, Oh, it was, it was rough. Can I say one joke before we leave? Oh, absolutely. You're smiling too big. We can't move on. Uh, so, uh, Paul Pelosi.
01:46:39
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Oh my god. The guy who's been looting the American economy for the past, like, what, 30-thumb years that his wife's been in Congress. I just was wondering, like, do you think that rings shot out of him like Sonic would be? All right, listeners, Casey's leaning back in his chair, and he's laughing so hard he couldn't finish his sentence. He was so proud of it.
01:47:08
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I've never seen him make this face sobbing he's struggling to breathe
01:47:25
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I love that you needed that. I love that you could tell you start getting this smile, like you're kind of a real zigger and you're just waiting for the right moment to get into the conversation. I know. There was no segue. I just had to like throw it on top, you know? Yeah. It's Casey talking about current events. All right. So, uh, Oh man. That is very good.
01:47:53
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All right, and on that note, thanks everybody for listening. Just made it to the end of this bi-week episode. If you like the podcast, share it with a friend. And, you know, maybe not this episode, but otherwise. Yeah, just try to explain this episode to you before you share it. And if you want to talk to us and a bunch of other cooler people,
01:48:22
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You can join the Discord, our links in the Instagram. Yeah, I feel like you should go share with us your favorite takes from your friends and your home church on social media about Halloween this year. Come share it with us. Let's all make fun of it together. Yes, and any sort of Christian cringe Halloween or otherwise, I would love to hear it. So send it to me on Discord. Thank you. Anyways, have a good night.
01:49:13
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We've done a hundred of these and we still don't know how to end the podcast.