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TLOAS: The Swiftie Deep Dive
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Swifties, assemble! Taylor Swift’s latest album has dropped and we’re diving in headfirst. Whether you’re a longtime Swiftie or just curious what all the buzz is about, we’ve got insights, theories, and plenty of feelings. Grab your headphones and let’s decode the era. Wine of the Week: Raeburn Pinot Noir
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Introduction & Podcast Theme
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a podcast for two bestie moms whine while they whine. I'm Annie. And I'm Jemina. Let's whine. And tonight we welcome everybody to the life of some show mamas.
00:00:15
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Not show girls. We probably wish we were show girls some days. I don't know. Is show girls like a derogatory word? Or is it like a fun word?
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fun a fun word, right? Like you think of like her video of being like a showgirl. Right. Like I think of something fun, but you know, they've got us all twist twisted in like different mindsets and crannies now. So, which we shall not discuss.
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I didn't know where you were going to go with that. You're like welcome to the life of, I'm like, where is this going? okay Well, the fun part is, I don't know if you realize this, but you know what episode this is? What episode number?
Episode 13 Focus: Taylor Swift's New Album
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Episode 13. it tracks. It sure is. but tracks It tracks. It sure is And we are obviously going to talk Taylor Swift, you guys, and her new album. A-duh.
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We're going to dissect the album. We're going to discuss all the things that everyone's chatting about and maybe even overcompensating too much about. And I know we sort of to like mentioned it last night.
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week um but we're really gonna do a deep dive here we're here for the deep dive so this one's for the swifties which we are swifties so that's not coming from a uh dare i say derogatory again buzzword of the night jamina's buzzword of the night everyone drink every time she says that says now almost just said it wrong almost a degoratory i just need stop saying it i just i'm done i'm done
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Are we back? We just had a little bit out of a flash moment there. We got a little glitch. Blame on that damn AWS internet outing. I have zero trust in what is happening with our audio and our video, but we're going get right to it.
Wine Talk: Rayburn Pinot Noir & Swift's Preferences
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Are you ready to wine with our wine of the week? Let's do it. So this week we are drinking their Rayburn Pinot Noir. And after a quick Google search of what wines that Taylor Swift likes, one of them, a the red that apparently she likes is Pinot Noir. I don't know how trustworthy that is, but Google said that was it. So here we are drinking a Pinot Noir.
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Taylor, if you could please come confirm or deny once you hear this, let us know. Yeah, just let us know. come on, I mean, come on the podcast. No, you know, no harm, no foul, no pressure, no pressure on our side at all.
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But we'd love to have you. Yeah. you know, if you want to talk wedding details, like we're here, we're here. We love to party plan. So anyways, with that, um, the name Rayburn is an old English word that means the river where one drinks.
00:02:51
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Well, that's, That's a great translation. I'm not going to lie to you. Take me, take me to the river. Has everyone heard that song? Take me to the river. A fitting nod to those who prefer to slow down to observe, appreciate and flourish in nature's surroundings.
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Rayburn wines are elegant, lush, and balanced crafted to allow the natural character of the great varietal to shine. I love that. I love like a place to just go sit and like, let your mind be with nature.
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God, I want to go in a river and just sit and drink wine in the summertime, you know, maybe in the summer. I think that would be best. Maybe like fall. I don't know I want to be in the river. There's certain rivers I really don't want to be in. So I'm going to clarify that.
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Okay. Sorry. When I said river, I meant like a little creek, like a casual little like bristling like creek with the rocks crystal clear creek where I can see everything that you know my you know how I feel about water my idea was a a creek so when I said river I was envisioning a creek just so you all know I'm not sitting in like a the Mississippi River and just like she's in the Everglades Hannah Conner hunting with her wine glass yeah I'm going to win and listen people are probably going to come for me because the Everglades is probably not a river but I don't know um it's hot and that you know what
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I was going let you figure that out yourself. I'll call myself out. Yet again. here we Here we are yet again. um The Russian River Valley Appalachian lies at the geographical heart of Sonoma County.
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This is where some of what wine country's best known and most beloved varietals really earned their reputation. Raven Pinot Noir delivers bright, focused fruit aromas of wild strawberries, raspberries, and red cherries capped with notes of spicy oak.
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Ooh. The palette is ripe, rich, and velvety, balanced by bright acidity. Here for it. I'm loving all everything you just said. i love. Specifically the velvety.
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Yes. Yes. And I like all the fruits in there. That sounds so yummy. Yeah. Like I... I'm instantly with high hopes is what I am. Okay. Well, don't, don't get, I know what happens.
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and This happens every time, but nothing you just described is a red flag. So I, that's why I have high hopes right now. And it's also very decently affordable, anywhere between 19 and $22. We got ours at ABC liquors.
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Um, if you're interested, I'm sure it's also at total wine or any of those types of places. Um, But yeah, are you ready to have a drink of this Rayburn Pinot Noir?
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I sure am. let's Let's give it a try. Cheers. Cheers.
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don't know how. Hold on. ah Yeah, hold on.
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I think I like it. By golly, I think I like it. and it I had to take a third like mini sip. I feel like my first two sips were like kind of like not Golby but like maybe a little too big for my britches.
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That third one kind of helped seal the deal a little bit better. But yeah, I'm feeling – I can definitely tell – called it
Controversy: Taylor Swift's Necklace Design
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what? A bright acidity? Yeah. Yeah. You expect it to be sweet.
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Sweet. And when it first hits your tongue, to me, the taste I get is like, oh, this is going to be sweet. But it's not like there. It's it's like super fruit forward. hu But it's not sweet. Although it feels like when it first hits your tongue, it's like, oh, that's going sweet. And it's not.
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i think could explain smell I think it's because of the smell. Like smell it. If you smell it. Like. Who taught us that, that you should smell as you take a sip? I think that was – it was one of our wine connoisseurs that told us, like, as you sip and smell, if like, almost transforms the flavor. So I think – I mean, it smells sort of sweet. Like, not – again, not overly sweet in comparison to, like, what we read for a description. But I'm not hating it.
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No, I'm liking it. And this is a great little wine to take into our episode about our girl T-Swift, our soon-to-be... don't know. she going to go T-Swift Kelsey? What is she going to Kelsey?
00:07:14
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No, she's going to keep her name for sure. think so? i don't know. I she I mean, maybe she'll keep it for branding purposes, but she may like legally change it.
00:07:25
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i don't know. I mean... Whatever she wants to do, we're behind her 100%. We're behind her. We're behind her, except i'm gonna bring I am going to bring a little drama before we get into the album.
00:07:39
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Okay, not problem. This just came across my desk. Okay. um Fresh off the bat. Ooh. Again, this came to my attention lately.
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within 24 hours ago and I meant to get your thoughts on this but there is a little our our girl is under a little controversy right now um apparently she released a necklace have you not seen this over Tiki Talkie?
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No. What? minus And is real I'm sorry I need a moment or i need a moment is reels ahead of TikTok right now? what No TikTok is just not serving me that like she doesn't need to know that.
00:08:19
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Okay so Apparently she, you know, she came out with merch for the new um album, which is what we're going to discuss tonight is that, you know, we're dissecting the new album, all the fun stuff.
00:08:30
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But one of the merch things that she released was an accessory necklace and the necklace resembles. I'm going to, okay.
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I'm going to say what it resembles first and then I'll say what I think. Um, The necklace that was released, which is no longer on the site, it's no longer accessible, it was clearly pulled immediately, resembles a Nazi dog calling necklace.
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I believe I'm saying that correctly. Some sort of Nazi-related emblem. Oh. Oh. Yes. Oh, There's a very big uproar on there. i'm it Again, it is removed from her site. It is no longer accessible on the site.
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I think genuinely, maybe she just didn't realize or didn't know. Essentially, was like an Opalite type vibe. um Like at the bottom, it had some sort of like... It had what looked to be like lightning bolts.
00:09:27
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Okay? And then in the center, it was like some sort of like star looking thing. And it had like Opalite inside, of course, which makes sense the album. But... but it resembled. So the Jewish community pointed it out. It's like all over, like it's very much being dissected. I am sure a statement will,
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it has to be said because it this is just showing that she either one didn't truly didn't know, which is maybe what I think, but like, it's also hard to believe like there was not one person in her entire team that maybe has the sort of Jewish background that noticed it or like didn't know. eat I don't know.
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Anyways, this, yeah, this came across my desk within 24 hours ago. And I was just like, what? Because there's a lot of people not being like, you know, doing videos that are,
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this is incredibly insensitive. Sure. Right. and out No longer swiftly, blah, bla blah, blah. But I just think a statement needs to be made. And I think it can clear up any, you know, misunderstandings or miscommunication.
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But yeah yeah. So that is the drama and the tea for you all. that That is wild. I did not hear about that. If I had to guess, I think that there's no way that she like knowingly did that. However, to your point, when things like this happen with any instance where it's like,
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How'd this get released? Like who okayed this? How many eyes saw this? And it's happened with like multiple things, right? Like we've seen, like, I can't name a specific instance, but we've all, we all know. and center in pepti I think it was Kendall Jenner and Pepsi.
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Yeah. yeah Balenciaga. Yes. There's tons of things that get misconstrued. and Absolutely. It's like, how did this finally get out the door? So yes, I think a statement,
Marketing Strategies & Album Editions
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is needed. And I hope that they do that soon for her purposes, because think the album itself was kind of giving, getting a little backlash too.
00:11:21
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so let's kind of get into it. Um, with the album and the release, there was a huge, huge hype around it. As you guys saw, I think she prefaced it with 20 different vinyls coming out with the album. No, not 20, not 20, but there's a lot of different vinyls and like covers that were coming out.
00:11:40
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um, ahead of the album and all these like surprise pieces that were going out there to really like hype up this big release. Yeah. Um, I don't know how I feel about, I feel like that was a little like, again, I'm a Swifty. I love her, but I feel like it it got a little excessive after a while.
00:11:59
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Like, like how many vinyls are we, are we going to come out with? Like, just give us like, unless you're like releasing a secret song with each one, you know, like and that's enticing.
00:12:10
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Um, but yeah, but first impressions of the album. ah I know a lot of people have the original album of her like in the water, which is like her face. Um, a lot of people didn't like that. They were just kind of like, wait, that doesn't even kind of look like her like, it's not her best, like.
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photo of her because if you look at the other albums like I got the the vinyl that I bought was the Target pink one um it was one of the ones that I loved the cover the most I love that it was pink and sparkly um do I own a record player no but I was influenced I was one of those people I was influenced to get it i'm I just don't feel – I don't think that many were necessary.
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That's my opinion. But she also knows her fans. So like I commend her for – giving the people what they want, honestly, because there's people that bought every single one and they all sold out. So good for her. Yeah. yeah That's what i was about to say is she knows her fans, right? Like she knows what will sell.
00:13:11
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And that's part of the music business, whether you like agree with it or not. Like I like it was little excessive like you, but again, she knows what's going to sell. She's a business woman. She obviously very obviously knows what she's doing. You guys, if she's made it this far,
00:13:27
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And honestly, i feel like it's got to be so hard at this point to continue making music and to continue to try to meet expectations of everyone.
00:13:39
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Like, right. All of your fans, fans have been with you but since the beginning, fans who were with you when you kind of switched to pop, newer, maybe some newer fans, the media, like she is so held at such a high level that she has to like continue to I can't imagine the stress like, and the, the, how that must feel is like you have to deliver, like you don't have to, but there's that expectation. Yeah. The pressure there's that expectation. And and unfortunately that's, that's showbiz baby.
00:14:12
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i was, I was waiting for you to say it because it's literally the, you're describing and that's show business, baby. Like, It ain't wrong. She ain't wrong. But you're right because everything she's ever put out, like her um following is just so massive.
00:14:30
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You know, especially this woman is 85 steps ahead no matter what. Like if you line up all the track albums and put them in the center, it makes the Aeros tour stage. Like why Like how are you that – you know, like the orange door at the end of the Aeros tour. Like everything that she does is so calculated.
Swift's Songwriting & Creative Process
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Yeah. That I'm just so invested in how the sleuths do that and like connect everything so quickly. I'm very appreciative. Like, because I don't have the time.
00:15:01
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Same. I wait for the Easter eggs. I wait for someone to tell me what I know I missed. I'm just listening to the music. I'm just having a great time. You guys tell me who she's talking about.
00:15:12
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You guys tell me what I missed in the music video. Or like when I, when they started talking about the orange door after her, the era that she walked through after um the tour, i was like, it is just wild to me.
00:15:26
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Her brain it is so mesmerizing, so intriguing that someone, and I'm sure there's other people who kind of like help pitch in with that, some ideas, but she's done this for years and years and years and years and years with these little Easter eggs and these things. i mean, engages her audience again. She knows her audience and she knows what they gravitate towards.
00:15:48
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Yeah, and she knows how to how to capture them. She knows what to do in order to keep them coming back for more, honestly, because this is I will have to say, this is probably, and don't know if this is the most relatable album, but I do know that this is probably the one of the first albums that I can't tell you that I have a skip, I have pressed the skip button.
00:16:14
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I can't, I mean, is there songs that I'm, like, not as into? Sure. But I do not press skip on this album. Yeah. it's i thoroughly enjoy all of the songs.
00:16:28
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Yes. you know Is it the most relatable one? I don't know. Maybe to an extent because we're really starting to see, like, and we're at that age, too, right? We are the same age as her.
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so I think our sense of relatable is probably different than like Aubrey, like Aubrey's sense of relatable or like somebody like older person sense of relatable. um But I mean, some of the songs, not some, one particular the songs that she put out, we're like, okay, Taylor.
00:16:57
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but Okay. Tell us more. Tell us more about that tree. Yeah. I think everyone knows what we're talking about. But did you see her on Jimmy Fallon?
00:17:08
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And how she very genuinely was like, listen, this song started off very innocent. And i I mean, she's talking about the generic like, um i I almost said curses, but like, and they're also not hexes, but what are they call Like bad luck things, like a black cat walking underneath.
00:17:26
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you know, a ladder stepping on a crack, like all those like sayings that cause bad luck, bad luck. That's what I was trying to and get to. on And she said, and then of course she starts like giggling. She's like, this started very innocent and just led to other things.
00:17:42
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But I'm also, since we're on the topic of wood specifically that song, i'm did you see the clips of the new heights when Jason asked Travis directly? Yeah.
00:17:54
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Oh, I saw clips. Yes. When he asked him about the song, he's like, so about the song. And the best was his reply. he was like, listen, if Kylie wrote a song about me, it would be called Japanese Maples.
00:18:06
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And now Kylie Kelsey has changed her underneath her Instagram. She deleted her bio and she put big fan of Japanese Maples. So I'm just like obsessed with like everyone's personality. Like they're just all meant to be related and ah part of everything.
00:18:24
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da so I love her She is so funny. so The fact that they met because she slid into or now he's slid into her DMs. Or what was it? tint No, Tinder.
00:18:34
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Tinder, that's what it was. And then he passed out during their date. I love it. Everything about them, like just all of it. So I'm so happy that Taylor gets to be a part of this family because it looks like her personality definitely belongs.
00:18:47
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um But anyways, back to Wood. Yes, it started innocent, which I'm still keeping that innocent vibe, right? Like when when I listen to it with, you know, my kids in the car, sorry, sue me.
00:18:58
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Yes. and it Sometimes it's in the background. i'm It's an innocent song. Becca knows all about not stepping on cracks. he He tells me all the time he doesn't want to break mike my back. You know, it's just about bad luck.
00:19:11
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That's it. That's all it is. That's all you need to know. I mean, I listen to it in my kids in the car. Like now... they start to understand the meaning of something. They ask me a meeting. I'm not gonna be like, yeah, well, you know She's actually talking about it. And they're like, let's be honest.
00:19:24
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And of course, Aubrey listens to Cause it's her favorite. Like that's her favorite artists. Um, you know, if you let your clothes, doesn't do it great. If you don't also great, like, let's not, I've been seeing some, a little bit of negativity, little bit of negativity on the social platforms.
00:19:42
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Um, So, but it's like you to you, like it's, it is a great album to pop along to just like so many, like you just sit there and just dance. Like listened to it while I'm working with my headphones in and I'm just in my seat, just like typing away, doing my thing, dancing along. Yeah.
00:19:59
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Again, there is not a skip songs for me. Like it's every single song I want to listen to. And I enjoy, um again, i do I have my top favorites? Yeah. But like,
00:20:11
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I could honestly just rank them all because that's how obsessed I am with it. i But again, when it comes to the lyrics, you guys, this woman is a poet.
00:20:22
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Okay. The way that she can lyrically express things like, for example, in Father Figure, when she says something about what it, I don't know the exact there, but she even said it's one of her favorite lines. It's about i get the I get the bill before it hits the mahan mahogany grain.
00:20:43
Speaker
She doesn't say table. She literally says mahogany. Like it's implied. Like she's a poet. I'm sorry. Like she the way she words things are so poetic. And in I would never, i and i could never.
00:20:56
Speaker
Like you have to actually listen to the lyrics, right? It's not one of those just like, I don't know. I even think of song off my head, but just being like, whatever, just singing the lyrics. Like you have to listen to the lyrics. And then most of the time I still understand them. That's when we get for sleuths to kind of come sleuthing in and tell us what's what, and who's what, like the biggest thing was canceled. Did you see some of those things where it was like, is it Brittany Holmes? Is it Blake Lively? Like which one, which one is it?
00:21:24
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Oh, I, the sleuths already dissected that for us. It's Blake Lively. It's literally all about Blake Lively. And honestly, I've heard a lot of bad reviews on cancel and it's probably one of my favorites because it's just catchy.
00:21:40
Speaker
And two, it's what we have all been waiting for. Everybody. Okay. here's Here's my soapbox on this. Everyone has been saying how, oh, Taylor Swift's no longer friends with Blake Lively, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, you guys clearly don't know Taylor Swift as a person because ah she doesn't seem like the type that she would just drop a long time friend, especially when she's like the godparent to their kids. like And so in my mind, how that conversation went down, it was probably like, listen, listen.
00:22:10
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there's a lot going on with you right now. I really don't want to be a part of that. I know like I am because my music is in this movie, but I need to, I think we need a distance and it was a mutual distance yeah agreement.
00:22:21
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And the fact that they have gone like that and then this gets released and she's like, I like my friends canceled. Like it's just putting all that rumor to rest from everybody that has butchered their friendship. And I'm like, you guys, I don't think Taylor would do that. I don't think Taylor was just going to drop someone as a friend and like that because yeah I mean because they were I mean they again together for so long friends for so long and then her being the godparent to her one of her kids it's like I don't know I do yeah I just don't see it be like all right see a piece like that's a big don't know I don't know we again we don't know Taylor personally but just doesn't know yeah this is Lily from nothing
00:23:07
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But no, but it's true though. Like a lot of people are like, well, she probably didn't. i'm I'm sure Taylor dropped her because they didn't want her to ruin her brand or her. How is this ruining her brand? Like this is not, she just used her music.
00:23:19
Speaker
and That's literally it. Like they, but I guess maybe there were maybe text messages involved that they wanted to really I don't, I don't, honestly, I don't know. Again, I think there was just a mutual agreement there in their friendship that, Hey, let's just distance while this fizzles out and we'll come back stronger than ever.
00:23:34
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um and she didn't too. wrote a banger song and it clearly says they're still friends. End story. Sleuth, thank you. She wrote a banger song.
00:23:46
Speaker
Okay. So speaking of all of these songs, do you have like your top, like solid top three? I have a solid top two. And then my third is like, my third is like my, the whole album.
00:23:58
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Right. Yeah. Like i
Favorite Tracks & Personal Connections
00:24:01
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okay. Personally, Hold on. I got it. Let me pull them. I need to just see them on person. Like, let me just. I'll tell you my two top, my top two. I'm in your top two. why my top two i scream like oh Okay, of course.
00:24:12
Speaker
um Opalite is my, I love it. It's just so fun to dance along to. It's just the beat is so catchy. It's so good. And then I love wishlist. Like, I don't know if you like that one as much as I do, but I love, um love wishlist.
00:24:27
Speaker
I think I would love it more if it wasn't dropping the F bomb. Cause I really wanted to listen that one with my kids all the time. Like i I like it. I really like it, but she strongly drops the F-bomb in that yeah like Yes. Like, oh, I really want to listen to this one my kids. and But that one, hell, I can i can helican slide in there. Sure.
00:24:47
Speaker
But when you drop the F-bomb, that hardcore, little tough. Yeah, that's one that we we kind of skim over. If the kids are the car, I've got to skip that one. Opalite is, yes, that's probably one of my top ones.
00:25:01
Speaker
um I really like... I really like actually romantic. I know it's you know, attacking someone on that one um I will say my lyric I don't like in the beginning. she talks about Coke, you know, and Ben's like, I'm like, yeah, but the kids don't know what Coke is. So they think it's difficult at this point. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
00:25:23
Speaker
But Opalite's definitely up there. i also really love honey. the only reason why I really love honey is because I relate to it so much. You guys, one of my biggest pet peeves is when a bartender, a waitress, anybody is like, you go, sweetheart.
00:25:39
Speaker
Here you go, honey. Like, but to me, some people think it's sweet and they're just being polite and kind. And sure, they will be. But to me, that just sounds like... I know. don't know. I just do not like it.
00:25:51
Speaker
i do not. i I don't know. It just sounds like borderline offensive almost. and And um of course it means like tone of voice has to partake in this as well.
00:26:02
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But I don't know. It's a little teeny in it. They make you feel like a little small. It makes you feel like a little little small. That's a good one. oh I don't like you i don' like that. No, I agree. i agree. So I love – the way that she twisted that into, but when you call me honey, it's it's okay. You know, like, oh my God.
00:26:19
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Not that Ben calls me honey. He never calls me that shit. But like, I just like loved, I think I loved like the lyrical aspect of honey. um oh i have so many, like I really can't, again, I said, I will admit the first time I heard it, The Life of a Showgirl with Sabrina Carpenter was not my top. And now it's probably one of my favorites too. So good.
00:26:39
Speaker
Yeah. It's just, I could just listen to that with a glass of wine. Just like, yeah, I just love it. But Opalite is definitely one of my faves.
00:26:50
Speaker
Yeah. It's so good. and i that's probably the one that like, if I'm going to pay like one song, that's just going to like get me into like just a great mood. If I'm in a funk or whatever, like that song is just going to get me.
00:27:03
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completely out of it. I also like ruin the front. I like all of them. I like ruin the friendship, the fate of Ophelia. i mean, they all are just so good and catchy and just, I mean, come on, you guys send us a message and let us know what your favorite song on the album is. Or if you heard us say one and you're like, hell no let us know. yeah Just let us know. I mean, I'm interested to i see what our listeners, um what our listeners think, what they pick.
00:27:29
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Cause Opal is just like, that's, that's the dance party. That's the shake it off. of this album because I couldn't, like you said, like you can play it and it's just like instant, just like, let's party, let's dance.
00:27:40
Speaker
Um, but I know we like, um, wrote down what would be like our post bedtime wine and chill. And that to me would be the life of a show girl. Yes. to me is life of a show girl, post bedtime chill, you know set the moon, some candles, just like maybe with a book, like, I don't know, like something like in the background,
00:27:59
Speaker
I'm obsessed with that. i saset I like that. Okay. So the dance party with the kids would be Opalite, obviously. Oh, 1,000%. And then heading to school, kid drop off. You've got one song to listen to.
00:28:13
Speaker
of Ophelia. Fate of Ophelia is a good one. Fate of Ophelia. Just because it's we can do the dance. We do like the dance with it. Yes, yes, yes, Can we say wishlist, but the non-explicit version? Yeah.
00:28:27
Speaker
I have not heard the non-explicit version. What did she say instead of the F-bomb? I have no idea. no they' No, I've just listened to the explicit version. like i think it's so i Again, i really like that song, but like i amm I'm forced.
00:28:40
Speaker
I know we said there's no skips in this one. When I'm alone, there's no skips, but I am forced to skip that one when my kids are in the car because it's very out there. like That one is one of the ones that's out there. agree. I'm not a teenager who likes to sing a lot.
00:28:53
Speaker
and like I mean, she knows all the lyrics to Fate of Ophelia, Elizabeth Taylor, and Opalite already. Like, those three are, if Avery had a rank, it's those three. will say one of Ben's favorite is, Ben does have a favorite as well because he is forced to listen to the album every time we're in the car, i'm is ah he loves Elizabeth Taylor.
00:29:12
Speaker
Oh, okay. Okay. Does he go, Elizabeth Taylor? he loves it. And did you know, fun fact, did y'all know that Elizabeth Taylor actually did have violet eyes? That is why she says that.
00:29:24
Speaker
Again, poetic, poetic. Yeah. No, Google it. Elizabeth Taylor, violet eyes. They're like, I'm assuming it's like her eye color in certain light. It looks violet, but she legit had violet eyes. So that's why she said, i cry my eyes violet, Elizabeth Taylor. Mm-hmm.
00:29:42
Speaker
yeah I mean, i really just you guys. but She's educating me. The songstress of our generation. Okay. Now I'm going ask, um did you, would you say this is a top favorite album of hers for you? Ooh.
Album Rankings & Discography Discussion
00:30:03
Speaker
Not number one. i don't, cause I don't think it's, I wouldn't, is it your number one? I don't think would I think Lover. Lover is one of my my top. 1989 is another one of my tops. 1989 hits hard. Like that is it brings the best memories for me, 1989. What else is there?
00:30:25
Speaker
Folklore a top one for me. Yeah. And also this is one of her albums where she's bringing pop back. So like yeah her last couple, maybe her last two to three have been more like indie, like a little lower, you know, poet lyrically. Like, and this is like more lover vibes. Like this is bringing back that pop.
00:30:43
Speaker
Yeah. um I would say it's definitely up there because again, if I, yeah if I can have an album that I do not skip any songs. Yeah. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
00:30:55
Speaker
I don't know. What about, what about you? Do you, do you feel like this is your top top or like she's she's just up there? It's definitely not top top. Uh, top top will always and forever be, like I said, 1989.
00:31:07
Speaker
Um, i I, don't know what it is. it, like, I think about like us driving around with Aubrey in the car, listening to every single song over and over, like going to the concert. It's like, it's more of like a, I love the music in it. Like welcome to New York is yeah literal, like one of my top favorite songs of hers.
00:31:25
Speaker
um Sounds so silly, but it is. but yeah, I love 1989. don't think anything will ever top that. I also love Folklore. yeah Like I said, um it's hard to go back to like her earlier albums because i like you think about like, yes, you might like Red and Love Story and Teardrops on My Guitar. And these are all like literally core early on Taylor Swift songs. and I'm like, as an album, i don't know if I would pick an earlier Taylor Swift one. But to your point, like this is like, this is a an album where I don't skip the songs. I'm like singing, bopping along to each of them. And that's what you want.
00:32:03
Speaker
Like, that's what you want in your music, right? Like that's, yeah. So yeah, I'd say probably top three, top four. yeah I mean, she's definitely, she's definitely up there. Like she is creme de la creme up there.
00:32:19
Speaker
Yeah. 1989. It's also a really good one. Like, but I will say, okay, I want this to go on record. You guys, I remember when my space was all their age and I was looking for a song, not that I discovered Taylor Swift, but like, I feel like I discovered her. so i was looking for a song to, you know, add to my profile and I found her and it was when she only had Tim McGraw.
00:32:45
Speaker
And I made Tim McGraw my song of the week because, you know, you could change whenever you want it. um yes so Depending on how you were feeling. Depending how you were feeling. And I made Tim McGraw my my song of the week or day or however long it lasted because I just loved it. And Tim McGraw is probably one of my favorite songs to this day. so good.
00:33:02
Speaker
But that's like early Taylor, right? Like early, early. Are you saying that you discovered Taylor Swift? I discovered her on MySpace. I will never forget. It was her curly, poofy hair. Mm-hmm.
00:33:13
Speaker
um Like I will never forget. It was right when MySpace, because MySpace, know, was just the people at first. i don't know. It was right when they started doing like music bands that have their own pages. Yes. um And I stumbled upon her and I should have DM'd her. I should have befriended her at that moment.
00:33:34
Speaker
Hey, girly. Love the new tunes. I could have been yeah potential Abigail, if you will. That could have been your end. I could have been it. I could have been in. I feel like if she just gave me an hour of her time, she would love me.
00:33:49
Speaker
She would want to be my friend. Maybe again, if she wants to come on the podcast, she can get to know us both. She's going to get off. there you guys I'm a wonderful person. So if she would love me, she's going to love you. Like, it's just, I'm just saying an hour of your time, please. m swift Miss Swift, please. We beg of you.
00:34:05
Speaker
wonder if she would sit here and drink this wine with us though. How, how, how what do you think? I mean, Pina Noir is her vibe. I think she would. And I also, Rayburn kind of sounds like a song title.
00:34:16
Speaker
Sorry. Here to say it. Could you imagine if her next album comes and there's a song titled Rayburn, we'd be oh my God. We called it. We called it. I mean, never must never say never. She could listen to us.
00:34:29
Speaker
I'm a tiger in everything. ah Just for the hopes. But no, I thought of that because you know her titles are so well thought of. like And like a lot of times it's like,
00:34:40
Speaker
i just like a piece of lyric. Yeah. and then she makes it the title. Like, you're like, why is this called this? um Yeah. Rayburn sounds great.
00:34:51
Speaker
I'm not, I'm not hating it, honestly. Yeah. I'm not either. I'm actually really liking it, which I was surprised by because i just feel like sometimes when we pick a wine and you're like, not sure. And you're looking around like, well, let's just try this question mark.
00:35:08
Speaker
And I'm very pleasantly surprised by it. so And the bottle's pretty. The bottle is very pretty. looks very elegant. um Again, it's a California Pinot Do you know you're corking? or feel like I know.
00:35:23
Speaker
i feel like I feel like I'm okay with the cork I'm going to present. Because is good. Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about it. I'm feeling pretty good.
00:35:36
Speaker
I've got, um um I think I've got, um I think, well, let me just take one more sip and I think I got mine. Okay. Was that your last, that looked like a big. Yeah, that was my last. i mean I've enjoyed it.
00:35:48
Speaker
I've been drinking it this whole time and I had a half glass. So she might go and get her one and another one. one. I may. i'm Due to packaging, um simple name, Rayburn.
00:36:03
Speaker
Um, and the fact that honestly do think it's going to be, ah it could be potential for a Taylor Swift song, um, title name, not album, but title maybe towards the end, you know, um, my, are we quirking? Cause I'm ready.
00:36:19
Speaker
Yeah. I've got mine in my head. i' was going write it down, but I didn't want you to see me write it down. Well, I can't see, I can't see where you're on our notes app. Oh, just don't look at your notes app. Jameena.
00:36:30
Speaker
Okay, sorry. thought you were afraid that I was going to see your screen. I'm like, I can't see your hand. can't see We record in two separate locations. I'm like, do you think I'm cheating by like hopping over the the screen and looking?
00:36:45
Speaker
um No. Okay, I'm giving this what is Rayburn Pinot Noir a crisp 7.5. Wow. know it seems kind of lower, know you know what I was going to say 7.7. just want 7.5 because I wanted like an even like halfway point.
00:37:04
Speaker
i'm But she could be a 7.7. gee I think second glass will bring her to a 7.7. Okay. Let's just settle all on 7.7. Okay. That's then that it. That's borderline an angel's number.
00:37:17
Speaker
So we're just going to do that. um Well, I am missing a thing of seven, but stop it. I know seven, five kind of surprised me. I'll be honest with you because I rated this pretty highly.
00:37:28
Speaker
ah you? Yeah, because it is. I think I'm just not that used to Pinot Noirs anymore. So I like, don't even know what a normal Pinot. I feel like I need to go back to the basics on Pinot Noir. This is to me, to me, if you are getting into Pinot Noir and you try your Mayomi, right? Mayomi is like really sweet.
00:37:47
Speaker
We had with our friends from our traveling tots, we had the Bowen Pinot Noir, which was pretty similar to a Mayomi. This to me is like a step up. Now Pinot Noirs are relatively pretty light bodied.
00:38:04
Speaker
ye So it's your lighter red if you're getting into reds. I would say this is like that step up when you're like, okay, I'm graduating from the Mayomis, the Bowens of the world. like i agree with that. i agree with that. This would be your step up. but I am giving this an 8.2. am. Ooh. Yes. I'm high.
00:38:22
Speaker
Yes. I'm very happy with it. i i think it's a really well done red wine. Pinot Noir. Yeah. I will agree with you. I do think it's like a level up if you like Miomi's. Now, i again, I probably rated Miomi way higher than this just because that was my OG got me into Pinot Noir. Yeah.
00:38:40
Speaker
um wine, but I do see your point in, I think, sweetness level. Those are a little bit different compared to this.
00:38:51
Speaker
So... Yeah. it's It's honestly, it's really not bad. That's I'm like, I think if I had, i think maybe if I had like one more extra sip, it would have solidified my angels number. But no, I'll give her a seven, seven. I think she's, I think she can sit pretty in the angels numbers because I think it is a good wine.
00:39:08
Speaker
And for the price point, honestly. You can't beat that. You really can't. Like I get nervous about like if you have another glass and how it's going make you feel like obviously you guys are If I was to go and drink a bottle this and have a headache the next day, my corking may change a little bit. I also would have drank a whole bottle. Back down to 7.5. Right. You don't know. But I am based off the – I'm basing it off of the single glass, and I am pretty impressed.
00:39:34
Speaker
So – Hopefully, Miss Smith would want to drink this with us. Any last words about the life of a showgirl and the new album? Well, new – still new. New album. It's still new. October 3rd is when it came out. And honestly, another thing, love that it came out October 3rd. Mean Girls, like, vibes.
00:39:51
Speaker
Love Getting all the vibes. um No final words. I think it's a great album and I think people need to stop hating on it. And especially if you're a millennial, we, like we said last week, we grew up on worse. So that is my two cents on that. And, um, I hope Taylor keeps tailoring because I'm going to keep falling.
00:40:08
Speaker
Aren't we all though? Like, aren't we all listen to the music for what it is, right? The feel good dancing around, having fun music that we all know and love.
00:40:20
Speaker
Ms. Swift for the time being Ms. Swift to produce. But as for the show, that's a wrap. That is all the Swifty tea we have for today. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate and review us on whatever platform you're listening on.
00:40:33
Speaker
As always, tell all your friends and keep on whining. Cheers.