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Red, White and Royal Blue
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HAPPY PRIDE MONTH FRIENDS!! Emma & Katie kick things off with the delightful 2023 film Red, White and Royal Blue. Tune in to hear how the Gays save the day, why Alex will have our vote any day and why even SEEING an election night map makes us break out in a cold sweat. Somebody take us to this weird pocket universe where Uma Thurman is a delightful Texan President.
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Avoiding the Podcast
00:00:04
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Boy, oh boy, the listeners missed out, but it's all part of Charles's conspiracy never be on this podcast. I mean, he's already been on the podcast. We can hear him complaining in the background in a couple episodes, I think.
00:00:18
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And he texts quite frequently while we are recording. He's texted me while we're recording. Yes, that's true. Multiple times because he can hear me through the wall.
00:00:31
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Yeah, boy, oh boy. We were just, Charlie was giving his Charles's Corner to Katie a for this film today because he doesn't trust me to give it accurately this podcast. We'll wait about an hour and then we'll have you reiterate again and we'll see how close. We'll see how. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a fun new game. See how much Emma makes up what Carly says.
Bulgaria and Its Charms
00:00:54
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um How are you, Katie? um I'm good. Yeah. Good. Just ah hanging out. i'm but I'm about to make a big salad. So I'm excited that. Ooh, love big salad. Love it. Love it. Making making a Bulgarian ah salad for gaming tonight.
00:01:10
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yeah A Bulgarian salad. What's in a Bulgarian salad? um It's called Shopska Salata, and it is like the national dish of Bulgaria. They have it with every meal, like every restaurant we went to, they had they had it there. It was everywhere. oh and my When I was in college, our um our acting teacher was Bulgarian.
00:01:29
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And um we went to Bulgaria a senior year as part of this like class on Eastern European Absurdism Theater. Absurdist theater.
00:01:41
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And we got to see the Moscow Art Theater perform. We saw the National Theater of Bulgaria. We did some like workshops and stuff. It was it was great. and We traveled all over the country. And ah Bulgaria is really cool.
00:01:52
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oh Nice. You talked about multiple times because they do film quite a lot there. They film a lot in Bulgaria. There's a lot of, like, tax credits and stuff. It's very cheap there. um Also, Bulgaria is still not on the euro, so everything is very cheap. Like, you remember, like, we could buy, like, bottles of liquor for, like, three or four dollars. Jesus Christ.
00:02:12
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Yeah, it's, uh... um it there's Because they're in the EU, but they don't use the the euro, at least not yet. so Or they didn't. and They didn't when we were there, and they still don't. um But it's um it's it's cooler than you think. I think it has this like kind of dreary Eastern European... um um reputation, but it's actually a lot. it's it' It borders Greece and it's much closer to Greece in terms of climate and everything.
00:02:37
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It was nice. Well, they filmed the Princess Switch there. um Right? They filmed the Princess Switch there. That sounds right. It was somewhere in Eastern Europe. It might have been Romania. feel like it was Bulgaria.
00:02:52
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Yeah, could be. They filmed a lot of stuff in Bulgaria. All of those like old Redbox Bruce Willis movies. No, it wast Princess Switch was in Romania. Yeah. I was going to say, I hope that their um tourism has been boosted by that film. a
Unicorn Party Dynamics
00:03:05
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lot of um a lot of the like old Redbox, like Bruce Willis movies, you know where he made 20 movies, like action movies that no one has seen, um they were all made in Bulgaria. With tax credits and stuff like that.
00:03:19
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And everything being cheaper there. love that. But there's this there's this lovely salad, which I believe they have in Greece. I think they call it like a shepherd salad in Greece, maybe. It's basically, it's big chunks of tomatoes and cucumbers um and ah Bulgarian feta cheese, which is the important part. And parsley um just kind of mixed together in a bowl with some ah some vinegar and some olive oil and some other spices. And it's really it's really fresh and beautiful. yeah Yeah. Oh, that sounds delicious.
00:03:51
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Yeah. Nice. Very nice. Well, that's really exciting. Yeah. um We had ah the wedding. Embassy had their 20th anniversary party this past weekend.
00:04:02
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Oh, nice. Yeah. um It was unicorn celestial themed. Okay. um Unicorn Celestial. Is that a My Little Pony thing? like ah No. Well, it started out with like unicorns and then my boss was like, this feels too like six-year-old birthday party, so like how do we make it feel more grown up?
00:04:24
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And then we were like, tarot cards. don't know if that succeeded. I don't know if unicorn Celestial sounds like a grown up party to me. no um No shade on that. Like just a neutral statement. was super fun. Nice. Yeah, it was super, super fun. um The day, that because we had appointments because it was on a Saturday. And so my cousin Maddie, shout out to Madeline Rose, um volunteered. Well, I volunteered her. i asked if she would do this because i knew she would have so much fun.
00:04:56
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um We had like a gourmet cotton candy lady um who did like this amazing. they There was like rose cotton candy, champagne cotton candy, a lot of cotton candy. It was really good. Yeah. um And then we also had my cousin maddie um dressed in an inflatable unicorn outfit, pouring champagne for customers. i'm going to send you some pictures. okay it's ah She did such a good job.
00:05:24
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There were moments that like she was just alone in the little room that we had her in. And my boss went over and she was just twerking. She was just twerking, having a good time. um She had so much fun.
00:05:38
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She was fabulous. um And then we had a tarot card reader at the party later that night, which was super fun. And I had my tarot cards read for the first time. For the first time? yeah I know. Well, I've done my own readings and stuff, but like it's different when you do your own. I mean. oh sure, sure. Okay.
00:05:55
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That's a lot. I've had them read once before from someone that was learning, but like never by like a professional like tarot card reader. yeah, Who I also knew. Yeah.
00:06:06
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Cause I work with her on the train and ah her assistant was also someone that I worked with on the train. It was a lot of people there. Connecticut's a small state. It's a small state. Um, it was great.
00:06:17
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And Susel was fantastic. Shout out to Susel Vaughn. Um, she she's fantastic and uh yeah i got kind of emotional um but i they she so she pulled for like you she did like one of those like five card um like draws or whatever the five card draw and um the like sense of self that she pulled uh the like center card was the devil Oh, yeah. Isn't that your card?
00:06:49
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That's my card, right? That's right. That's your birth card. your birth card Yeah. I like that's why i like I like really I got kind of emotional because a lot of it was like really resonant with me, like the reading. But like I was like super i was like, oh, my God, what are the chances that my birth card is my center card?
00:07:07
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i love that
LGBTQ+ Film Discussion
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so much. um So, yeah, that was that was my weekend. That's it. Did you dress up all fancy? Oh yeah. Let me send you my outfit. Opera gloves? No opera gloves, but I did wear a dress with fringe and i was obsessed and um it was great. It was a good time.
00:07:26
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It was a good time. ah One of the pictures I'm going to send you, it has me wearing just my slippers. They're not the shoes that I wore, but yeah.
00:07:38
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Oh, you're so pretty. Thank you. Look at your hair. my God. I know. that's really cool. i love that dress. Thank you. I got it from Babyond, which ah is a website that I got Insta-influenced by. And they do 1920s flapper dresses. And it was like only $125. So I was like, this could be terrible or it could be great.
00:08:00
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And it was great. No, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Highly recommend. you want I see Charlie dressed up as well. Yes, he did. I picked out a shirt for him. And then he asked me. And then he wore his Converse. I was being sarcastic. He's wearing jeans and Chuck Taylors. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:16
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But it was really funny because everyone, all of the people that work at the Wedding Embassy, we all wore like sparkly gold, like fancy outfits because we'd all talked about it. And all the like spouses just wore like jeans and maybe a button down.
00:08:30
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come on, guys. I know.
00:08:35
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Right? it Was there one lesbian who worked there and her partner was dressed like all the men too? That's what I imagine in my head. No. I know. I know. it's Clearly.
00:08:46
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We need more lesbians. We need more lesbians. Speaking of gay people. Speaking of gay people. What a segue. gay people famously featured in today's film.
00:08:59
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That's true. That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where... Emma and Katie. Emma and Katie are the White House chief of staff who has fucking had it. With these gay boys and
Plot Breakdown and Critique
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their romance. And their romance.
00:09:19
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Goodness gracious. ah But they're just watching this little college. He's in college, i think. and He's in law school. oh They are straight up 30 years old. yes Yeah. I was like, I do not believe that this man is still in college. um But the son of the president, who is semi-closeted, and the...
00:09:45
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Spare to the crown of England. that The third in line, I believe, is how is how he would be, right? Because his mom is first in line and his older brother is second. And then that would make him third in line.
00:09:58
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I don't think his his mom's first in line because she... um Wasn't it his dad was the son of his granddad? No. No, his dad is an actor. His mom is the daughter. yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
00:10:13
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I got that wrong.
00:10:15
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Now in the book, there's the queen. It's not a king. It's the queen. ah But did they think that it was like a little bit because she like died?
00:10:28
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Oh, did she die before this movie came out? I actually have no idea. This movie came out in 2023. When did she die? 2022? Let's see. Elizabeth Mountbatten. Taylor! Taylor! let's see i wanna say elizabeth
00:10:43
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She died in 2021. Yeah. No, no, no, no, yeah no no no no no no no He died in She died in September Yeah. party. Not to celebrate.
00:10:53
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No, of course. To celebrate her death. Yes, exactly. No, no. It was, it was, I had a party because it was so her, she died the week of her birthday, of her 90th birthday, and I had a birthday party for the queen, and we joked the entire time about how she was um just, she was already dead, and they She was already dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and this was just a big conspiracy, so people didn't think that she was dead.
00:11:18
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um And then a few days later, she got, rest in peace she was a lovely lady i read a wonderful story let's get into it let's get into it right now i know you could see which one of us was supportive i mean i've got my issues with whatever king fucking his name prince charles yeah yeah that guy his name is prince charles It's forever Prince Charles. It's never King Charles. um but ah But she was such a nice lady. I read um a story from from Obama.
00:11:55
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From Obama! Tying together the British monarchy and the US, the United States um government.
00:12:06
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And oh even my cat is like, Emma, this is too much. LAUGHTER um But he had given her a like just a little brooch as like a little gift on a little trip. It was just like a cheap little brooch from an antique store in Washington, D.C. It cost 50 bucks and he gave it to the queen. And the next day at the dinner, um she wore it.
00:12:30
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And it was really sweet.
00:12:34
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That's sweet. I thought you were going to say like she she helped somebody or something, but she wore a brooch that the president gave her. Okay. Hey,
00:12:46
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I've watched all of The Crown. i Yikes. I love Queen Elizabeth. Okay, okay. I'm sure that, you know, the the image that the royal family wants you to have of her is a positive one.
00:13:02
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yes Anyways, in this- Not appearing in this film, Queen Elizabeth. appearing in this film. This is a weird sort of um side pocket universe.
00:13:14
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Yeah, he says that he's a Hanover steward, which yeah is technically the same family. Like they're directly descended, but they changed their name At Victoria, I believe. Yeah. I'm no expert on the royal family. But I believe that that the Sax Gothenburg whatever their names were, I believe that's that's um Prince Albert's family's name. And that's when they took that name.
00:13:40
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Oh. And then they had to change it to Windsor in the... um in the you know during World War I because they didn't want to sound German. germans Yeah. yeah o Yikes.
00:13:50
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um I just know that of Hanover Stewart because it's famously featured in the fantasy series television show and book series Outlander. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, um yeah because it was the the yeah ah James and all that. Yeah, and the Jacobins. and Yeah, it's a whole thing. oh Yeah, yeah, Jacobites.
00:14:10
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Not featured in this featured in this. Yeah. Tell us about this movie, Katie. um Okay, so this movie is, we we haven't even said the title. It's Red, White, and Royal Blue, which is from 2023, directed by Matthew Lopez, um and written by Matthew Lopez and Ted Mollower.
00:14:31
Speaker
Malawar. Malawar. Malawar. um And that was so that was a rewrite. So um my guess is it was a script by him and then the director did the rewrite before when he was directing it. um Neither one of them have many credits. um Ted Malawar has only TV credits including the short-lived television series Rise about the high school drama group or whatever. like i don't know if it's Like a, it's like, what if Glee weren't terrible from what I understand, but it didn't last very long.
00:15:07
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I think it was also kind of cringe, but I never, I never saw it. yeah I heard people, people really liked it and some people didn't like it, but it was. um Let's just not make TV shows about an awkward time in theater kids' lives. Let's just not do it. We must. We must.
00:15:22
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Because we all have trauma. He also wrote for a TV show called Does This Murder Make Me Look Gay? Which sounds interesting. I really want to watch that. Right? um And then Matthew Lopez. This is his directorial debut. He directed nothing before this. Not even TV. He has TV writing credits on The Newsroom, which was yeah just an unwatchable piece of garbage ah TV show. One was fine.
00:15:48
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Season one was fine. Yes, you're right. Yes. Season one then was And then fell off at season two. It wasn't good, but it was fine. And then it progressively got worse and worse. The problem with the newsroom was the conceit in in general. Like the problem with the newsroom was that they decided to set it like five years in the past. So this magic newsman could accurately predict the precise way to handle everything by having knowledge secret knowledge of the future. The problem with that. But like if you're like me and didn't really pay attention of in of politics until like 2016 then ah you didn't really notice.
00:16:33
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yeah yeah That was, that was when I think America and especially me had finally had it with Aaron Sorkin's bullshit. Yeah. It was the newsroom. Yeah. Which is there. Yeah. um But this book is based this movie is based on a book by Casey McQuiston, who I have read their um their other novel, One Last Stop, ah which I prefer to this. And hopefully they'll make a movie out of that someday. That's a lesbian time travel New York City subway movie. oh Oh, yeah i want to read that. Yeah, it's super it's super fun. Yeah, yeah.
00:17:06
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I love that. um And they have they have some other books, but I haven't read i haven't read those. This was the first one. and This was a huge hit. And... um This movie is also ah produced by Greg Berlanti, a huge movie and TV producer.
00:17:20
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um he basically He started on Dawson's Creek and then wrote and produced everything on The CW in the past 30 years, pretty much. Love it. um Greg Berlanti runs, ah um but at least he did run The CW, and now he has his own thing and he's doing movies and stuff. He did Love, Simon. He's a very, very prominent actor.
00:17:40
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gay man in Hollywood who is like consistently working to make like queer movies and stuff. Gotcha. Is he, because is he the reason for Riverdale? Yes, yes, he's the reason for Riverdale, yes. Well, I mean, Riverdale was based on... A comic. Oh, God.
00:17:58
Speaker
Robert Aguirre... I'm going to get his name wrong. um It was a guy who who did the comics, who took over Archie Comics. And it was his kind of brainchild. But Greg Berlanti was involved, 100%, for sure. Yeah, yeah. And boy, that is just a staple in time.
00:18:15
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Roberto Aguirre-Sarcasa, I believe is his name. ah Well, he he didn't know when he was um making those comic books, but he was creating history. Yeah, nailed it. Roberto Aguirre-Sacaso.
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah, he made history. um I didn't make it through season two of Riverdale, but I i keep thinking I'll go back and watch it. Right? I never finished it, but I desperately need to get to the seasons that they really jumped the shark. And I say that, I put an emphasis on really, because, boy, they jumped the shark so many times. The show is insane, yes. that um Yeah.
00:18:48
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um Anyway, so this movie is about um ah a
Character Chemistry and Themes
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fantasy world. Yep. It will never come into existence. Where Uma Thurman is a ah Texan female president married to a Mexican immigrant um ah with a gay or bisexual son. Yep.
00:19:12
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um played by a extremely hot, young-looking Al Pacino. so hot. So hot. Pacino? He doesn't look like Al Pacino. He totally looks like a young, hot Al Pacino. Yeah. The entire time that we were that I was watching it, like, I got to, like,
00:19:30
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three quarters way through and I was like, ah, you know what he looks like? You know what he probably is? He's the basis for all those AI videos where they're like, this is the chapter in fourth week, but like brought to life.
00:19:42
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looks like He looks like every single romantic see girl's wet dream. Like he looks like Reese. He looks like Zayden. He looks like all those like dark brooding, like hot guys.
00:19:54
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um And I was like, if they do a TV show, a fourth wing or ACOTAR, they need to be calling him because he'd be perfect casting. um I, i have of course, am not on social media, so I have not seen oh those terrible AI videos. I think it's one of the only things that AI should be used for is making your fan fiction and bringing it to life. Oh, no. They also do not suitable for work ones, but you have to pay for those.
00:20:22
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Of course, yeah. ah The views of Emma and Palizzo not reflect the views of the Book It Your Girl Yeah. um ah a He is um yeah very attractive. His name is Taylor Zachar Perez. um ah And the Prince of England, that's Alex, and the Prince of England, Henry, is played by Nicholas Galitzin.
00:20:46
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Yeah! Gasaltine. Yeah, Gasaltine. yeah go It's played by Harry Styles from The Idea of You. Who we saw in The Idea of You and is about to play He-Man in a movie that comes out next month.
00:20:59
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Is he really? He's He-Man? Have you not seen the trailer? No, I haven't seen the trailer. The trailer looks like it's going to be fun. I don't know. I don't know anything about He-Man. I hope it's not another like Kazam. But it looks real goofy.
00:21:12
Speaker
Shazam. No, what was the one with Zachary Levi? Shazam. Shazam? Oh, that was Shazam? Shazam is good. Shazam is good? Okay. Yeah, Shazam is good. Shazam's cute. I mean, despite Zachary Levi, um you know, being a bad person. like Yeah.
00:21:26
Speaker
Yeah, Shazam. should The first Shazam is good. The second one I hear is terrible and haven't seen it, but the first one is good. It's cute. um It's a good premise for a superhero. It's about a little boy who finds like a magic, like who gets a magic word and he says this word and he turns into adult superhero. So it's like the movie Big mixed with like a superhero movie.
00:21:45
Speaker
Oh. Yeah, it's cute. um Yes Nicholas Galitzin So I watched the She-Ra TV show And that's kind of my only exposure to the He-Man universe But it seems We're both too young for He-Man Oh much too young for He-Man Much too young Sorry But yeah apparently It looks really cool The cast is fun Allison Bree is in there I love that
00:22:14
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Um, anyway, so ah that's him. And um he's the son of the president and he is the prince of England, the third in line to the throne. And they don't like each other because they're both, you know, kind of assholes.
00:22:29
Speaker
Well, there's beef. There's beef that you find out about. um But this this before we get into it, I do think that the listeners need to know how this idea came about um for a rom-com with the son of the president and the third in line to the British throne.
00:22:52
Speaker
How did a gay rom-com with those two things come about? Well, let me tell you in the first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts. ah Casey McQuiston?
00:23:04
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Quiston. Casey McQuiston came up with the idea. I mean, i don't know, but surely it's not McQuiston. Casey McQuiston. Casey McQuiston. I'm pretty sure it's McQuiston.
00:23:18
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Casey McQuiston, author of the original novel novel on which the story is based, came up with the idea ah while closely following the 2016 presidential election.
00:23:29
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Oh, yikes. Right? That was my first reaction. By spring of that year, they were watching a new season of Veep and was alternating between reading hillary clinton the Hillary Clinton biography, A Woman in Charge, because remember, Hillary Clinton was running in 2016, and That's right. I forgot about that. And the Royal Lee by Heather Cox and Jessica Morgan.
00:23:51
Speaker
um They became enthralled by the generally eccentric lifestyles of the American elite and the extravagant lifestyles of the British royals. In both cases, the outward exclusivity and the glimpses of inward humanity made it interesting for McQuiston.
00:24:08
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Um, they later said I was so intrigued by these incredibly high profile worlds that are still very exclusive. Everyone sees everything you do, but there's a whole other story happening behind closed doors.
00:24:19
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So I knew I wanted to do a first family story or a royal family story. And I I... Had a member of the first family fall in love with a member of the royal family?
00:24:31
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I didn't have to pick just one. so true. So true. I just love the fact that they came up with it from the 2016 election. And Veep.
00:24:42
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And Veep. I mean, Veep, I can see that kind of in this. 100%. Yeah. I love Veep. I love Veep so much. But like of all the elections. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:54
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the The biggest clusterfuck one to to do. Of all the elections to inspire you to write this fabulous gay rom-com. Yeah. um ah It didn't work out so well. um Hillary Clinton famously did not win Texas. Did not win Texas.
00:25:11
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And ah it's, um yeah, so it is um It starts off with, i feel I feel like this is Alex's movie. um Okay. yes Yeah. It's much more focused on him. And part partially because it's an American movie, even though it was made in England.
00:25:30
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Yeah. um it is They try kind of like in the later, like third or the later quarter, whenever Henry makes the decision to like walk away because he's getting too close. Like they try giving you more of like a Henry POV, but it i felt like it just didn't work as well because we were so connected with Alex.
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah. It's mostly about Alex in the movie. Yeah. They're also, there's, there's a few changes. um The book is a lot longer. um Obviously it didn't mean it's, it's like, you know, 500 pages or so. it's it's So it's considerably longer than a two hour movie can be.
00:26:06
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um So there's a lot more that happens. There's a whole other, I mean, they cut his sister, who's it a minor character in the book. You read it? i read the first third and then I said, I'll get back to this. And I have and gone back, but I really liked the third that I read.
00:26:21
Speaker
The evil Republican running for president against her is more of a character. um There's also like he has this senator friend whose name I don't remember um who like betrays him. And it's kind of like the Zara character. But like halfway through, this character betrays him and becomes the Republican running mate. But then at the end, it was like a ploy to um to expose the Republican as like a um ah sexual predator. Like it was the whole reason it's kind it's pretty silly. It's pretty silly. Oh, my God.
00:26:56
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Yeah. ah I know in the book, his parents are divorced in the movie. They're together. Yeah. um And he's got like a stepdad in the book. Um, and yeah, like his sister is just the biggest junk that's like missing, but they sort of. And the whole ending is little bit more realistic in the book. Um, the Royal family comes off like worse in the book for sure. Um, except for the gays didn't save the day.
00:27:26
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The gays didn't save the day. Um, you should have seen me at the ending of it when they're. I was going, ah, yes! Ah, yes!
00:27:38
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The famous English protest. ah ah
00:27:44
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The gays saved the day. ah but We're getting so far ahead of ourselves. i know. i' ah So they don't like each other. so we have Alex and his friend Nora. They are at the wedding of the prince's older brother, who's real piece shit. Yeah, he sucks. even has a terrible haircut.
00:28:06
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Yeah, he looked I said he was a ah Pete Campbell looking motherfucker. Yeah.
00:28:13
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He is, ah no offense to ah Vincent Cartheiser. Love Vincent Cartheiser. Seems like a good guy. Yeah. um But he's got a real, Pete Campbell, the character, has an extremely punchable face. And so it does so does Philip, I believe, his yeah his older brother. Yeah, whatever his name is. You just really want to punch him.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah. um Alex gets drunk at the wedding and they get into a fight. He gets into a fight with ah with the prince, like a shoving match basically. And they knock over this extremely expensive, ostentatious cake and get covered in icing and cake. And it becomes like this tabloid phenomenon.
00:28:52
Speaker
Yeah. And everyone's like, oh my God, why is there so much tension between the first son and the prince of England? Surely it's not sexual tension. Right. What's going on there? Oh, my gosh. The U.S. and the U.K. have this trade agreement thing that they need to talk about. Is this going to ruin it?
00:29:12
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Yeah, it's all. It's so funny to watch any movie about politics that like in the. like before the era that we're in now. Cause like who fucking cares? Like one of the things like I think about lot is like, can you imagine trying to explain to somebody Watergate? Like, no, like who the fuck cares?
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah. Watergate wouldn't even be a blip today. i don't even think it would make the noose. For be we'd be forgotten in 24 hours yeah based on what we're dealing with now. It's just constant stream of bullshit. So yeah, all of this is a little hard to take in a post 2020 world. Well, ironically, a post 2016 world. Oh, well i got well, first of all, um yeah, post 2024. But yeah, also post 2016. Yeah. Do you think do you think that there is a universe?
00:30:07
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Probably not. her Casey didn't write this book. Hillary won the election. do you think this book-
00:30:21
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No. Do I think this book is responsible for Trump winning? We don't need to lay that at Casey McQuiston's feet. Right? Well, I don't think that it's their fault in any way, shape, or form. The book and the movie are fabulous. Sounds like you do.
00:30:34
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No, I'm just saying it's the butterfly that gets stomped on in the butterfly effect. No, no, I don't think that's it. I think it's much more insidious than that. um It just seems very coincidental.
00:30:52
Speaker
So, Sarah, I mean, this book wasn't even published until like 2021. What are you talking about? No, but it is like the My Chemical Romance. Oh, God. um Oh, my God. What is the pipeline?
00:31:05
Speaker
ah How 9-11 to Fifty Shades of Grey. Yeah, to Fifty Shades of Grey. So we're just waiting for like more things to spawn off.
00:31:17
Speaker
Maybe it'll turn into something that will save the planet. I'm hoping so. Oh, that would be amazing. um But instead, we have this. um ah And...
00:31:30
Speaker
We meet Uma Thurman, um ah who is playing, who's doing a Texas accent. Boy, is she doing an accent there? i couldn't I couldn't tell you how accurate it is. I'm not familiar with the Texas accent. It's a little bit like when they go to Austin and they go out and they're like, this is what living in Texas is like. It's like 25% accurate, or 25% accurate, 75% stereotype.
00:31:55
Speaker
Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah. Maybe but that's that that's true of of anywhere, I'm sure. You know, you gotta- You got to show people what they expect to see, kind of, when you do these things. Yeah. um
Cultural and Political Elements
00:32:05
Speaker
they We meet Sarah Shahi, who's my favorite character in the movie, um who plays Zara, who is, I believe, the president. I believe she's the president's chief of staff.
00:32:15
Speaker
At first, sure what her job was exactly. thought she was the vice president's daughter. They say it in the beginning that she's the vice president's daughter, and that's why they are like best friends. no no no no no no no no no no no you're thinking of um abby i'm talking about zara oh sorry uh yes zara chief of staff absolutely yes zara is the chief sorry my favorite character is zara the chief of staff who is having none of it ah she is over any drama that doesn't have to do with her job
00:32:47
Speaker
Yes. um ah She is making him go to London to pretend to be friends with Henry to try to get this to blow over so they can win re-election. Yep. There's this running bit where he keeps telling, saying that he's not 6'2". And then he gets there and he's like, you're wearing lifts. And they're like arguing about who's taller. I looked it up. Neither of these actors are 6'2". They're both like Oh, okay. Uma Thurman, also tall, we should say. Yeah.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah. um His. ah Yeah. so they like reluctantly hang out. Yeah. um They do some photo shoots together. We meet Sean, who's the prince's equerry, which is like his assistant.
00:33:31
Speaker
Not his butler. it's some Very accurately, not his but butler. Yeah. um They have to pretend to be friends, but they start mocking each other. um And then when they're at a hospital doing some photo shoots, ah they um they they sound it sounds like they're shots fired and Secret Service shoves them into a closet together where they're, oh no, on top of each other. Oh no no, just tumbling around because it's such a small closet. And oh, I just can't grasp footing. They're such two big muscly boys like with their a tight my suits. boy Oh no. no.
00:34:07
Speaker
And he's like, you're wearing like Lilabo perfume. And like, how is this guy not like, okay, this guy's gay. Like, I don't understand. Right? He a good he says, oh, you're wearing Santal 33. And he goes, well, yeah. You have good taste. ah Just start making out now. Right. But they have the the like heart to heart where Prince Henry is like, why don't you like me?
00:34:32
Speaker
why Why? is it that you don't like me? And he was like, ah because the climate conference in Australia um so many years ago, i went up to you and to like when we first met and literally two seconds later, like you you were very cold to me. And two seconds later, you said to your, you know, British Secret Service, ah get me out of here. Or. um Yeah. And he's just like, okay, I get how that can come off bad.
00:35:00
Speaker
But let me tell you the real story of what happened. My dad died. Literally, i think he said that day or like two days before. It was, it was, it was preview. was like, I think in the months before. Yeah.
00:35:13
Speaker
Okay. It sounded like it was like very recent. And he was being like paraded around and he didn't want to be doing like, he was in mourning for his father and he didn't want to be doing these like, yeah. Yeah.
00:35:24
Speaker
Yeah. But he had to be there. And what I actually said was to my secret, he was like, I'm sorry that you heard that. But like what I actually said was, please get me out of here. I need to get out of here. I need to get out of here.
00:35:39
Speaker
um Because I just was not mentally there. I was just yeah drained and um sad and stuff. And Alex like, oh my God, I'm sorry. now And then...
00:35:52
Speaker
Yeah. um They apologize to each other. We find out it was fireworks, not gunshots at the hospital. Yep. And ah then they they go home and we meet Clifton Collins Jr., who's the first gentleman.
00:36:06
Speaker
Yes, he is. Who's just an easygoing fun guy. He's an easygoing Texan that's just smoking out on the smoking a scar in every scene. On the veranda. Yeah. Yep.
00:36:16
Speaker
um And they have a sweet relationship. And he tells him he's got this working class chip on his shoulder because unlike the British monarchy, like the presidency can be, I mean, it's possible, albeit unlikely, that a middle class person could become president of the United States. Yes. It's happened before. um ah and Will it ever happen again?
00:36:39
Speaker
Probably not. Who's to say? That is the case in this fantasy world. This is this middle class family from Texas who became president. Yeah. And so he has this middle class chip on his shoulder as a, um and he's against the monarchy. And he's rightly so. Okay. He...
00:37:02
Speaker
We see he had, that he started, they start flirt texting with each other. Yeah. Like sending each other tabloid stuff. And cute little montage, like, yeah like very adorable sequence. I have some issues with the direction of this movie. It is the first time director. So, you know, grain of salt and all that. But I do really like the sequence where they're doing the texting, where yeah they're, they're in the room speaking to each other. But in reality, they're, they're texting or on the phone, especially when they're,
00:37:29
Speaker
in the bed next to each other. And the, um they did something to him to um Henry's voice to make it sound, even though he's sitting there in the room talking to him, his voice is being like, as as the conversation goes on and you realize, and you there he's about to hang up, his voice starts being like having the phone effect on it.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah. cool Yeah. It was a really cool sequence. I will say, I do feel like this director leaned on montages a little bit. Oh, big time. Big time. ah There's so many montages. like it's They got a lot of stuff to work to get through in this book. you know It's always hard to to translate a book into a movie, and especially if it's if it's ah on the long side for a rom-com especially. Yeah. The original cut of this movie was three hours.
00:38:15
Speaker
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. um He sees a reporter ex-boyfriend of his who's evil. um So evil. Don't want to fuck. Yeah, he blows him off. um But they do have this little like thing where they starts they start talking in Spanish. um And he's saying like he misses his eyelashes. I'm like, hell yeah, you do, man. All right.
00:38:39
Speaker
Some good eyelashes on this guy. Yeah. They, um there's a, yeah, they have the whole thing. And then he has his Texas strategy memo. So yeah he's in law school. he is um at Georgetown.
00:38:53
Speaker
He is um working on a Texas strategy memo that he gives to the staff, but no one reads it because they don't want to read some bullshit written by the president's son. Yep.
00:39:05
Speaker
And ah he talks to Zara about it and tries to get her to read it because he wants to win Texas, whereas the current presidential reelection strategy is to work on the Rust Belt in the Midwest. He thinks that Texas is more important, but Democrat has never won Texas.
00:39:23
Speaker
I mean, not since the party switched or anything. Not since the Democrats stopped being the racist ones. um ah And... um ah Texas just went with whichever one was racist. Yeah, that's right. I mean, same as Tennessee. Don't, I mean, like, look, it's my state too. Oh, man.
00:39:41
Speaker
um ah And, ah but nobody wants to to hear that. um So then they have the New Year's party and they've invited Henry to the New Year's party as part of a, um you know, goodwill press tour kind of thing. But now they're like best friends slash flirting with each other. They have become buddies by texting. They talked every day. Every three day. Yeah. um ah Henry gets left alone when they go dance to Bad Bunny. um ah yeah And then Get Low by Jon starts playing. And he's like, this is my childhood. And I'm like, I'm a i'm a million years old.
00:40:16
Speaker
I'm one million years old. ah The reaction that Prince Henry has to hearing get low for the first time while holding the bottle of champagne looking very awkward on the dance floor. I was like, really? That's like you in the club.
00:40:31
Speaker
And Charlie was like, I'm sorry, what? And I was like, in the club. He was like, i don't understand what you're saying. And I was like, in the club. In the club, we're all fam. Come on Exactly. He didn't even know that reference. case Come on, Charlie. i haven't had social media in a year and I know that reference. Right. Right. That reference is probably a year old, but either way. But it he it did remind me of um when we would force Charlie to go along to um to all the ah clubs that we would go to in Boys Town and he would just stand in the corner.
00:41:02
Speaker
Awkwardly. Britishly. He would stand Britishly in the corner. Yeah. He did not ever don the dance floor. Unfortunately, that can also be me. i As we've discussed on this podcast, much like Taylor Swift, I'm six feet tall and awkward and can't dance.
00:41:19
Speaker
But i I will do my best under the right circumstances. And those circumstances are alcohol. Yes, they are. um ah So Get Low starts playing and there's this pretty cute shot of everybody getting low except for the two of them standing slow motion, like looking at each other across the crowd, which is pretty cute.
00:41:37
Speaker
It was really um Countdown to midnight. Lots of girls are kissing um um alex and They all just like run in to stick their faces in his face. I mean, I understand the impulse. I would absolutely be there as well.
00:41:54
Speaker
He's so fucking hot, Emma. My god so hot. He's so hot. I can't remember the last time we watched a movie for this podcast where the the actor was this hot, actually.
00:42:05
Speaker
hi It's been a minute. it's Yeah, it's been a minute. It definitely was not Barry B. Benson. No, no. This is like um um the It Happened One Night episode of yeah the two of us thirsting after this guy.
00:42:22
Speaker
yeah Over Clark Gable. um I mean, any scene this guy's in a t-shirt, I'm like, oh. Yeah, right. The little tank tops and the little thing over it, yeah.
00:42:36
Speaker
Yes. Henry runs off into the snow and Alex yeah comes after him. And um he's like, what's wrong? on Yeah. He asks him, what would you be like if you were an anonymous person? And he's like, I was an anonymous person for most of my life. um And you know Henry doesn't have that. and Yeah.
00:42:55
Speaker
One thing that this movie does and the book does really well also is that on like we talk about this a lot in rom-coms is the the reason these people can't be together is there's a very good reason. Like the conflict is legitimate. It is not invented. It is not a misunderstanding. It is not one of them being stupid or an asshole. Um,
00:43:14
Speaker
He tells them that, you know, he would like to be a writer. he live in Paris. He would date more. um And he says, um the people I date don't interest me. And the people who interest me, I can't date. um And he goes, what does that mean? And he goes, Christ, you're as thick as it gets. And he kisses him. And then he says, sorry. he them.
00:43:32
Speaker
Runs away. ah No, he kisses him and then he kisses and Alice kisses him back and they have a make out sesh. And then Henry, gotta give him the play by play, Katie. Yes. I was so sorry.
00:43:46
Speaker
And then ah Henry runs away. Yes. And then he ghosts him ah yeah for like a month. ah with Which is Henry's like big thing. Henry really needs therapy because anytime ghosts Alex in this movie multiple times.
00:44:01
Speaker
He does. Yeah. That's that's his go-to. Yep.
00:44:07
Speaker
he um He talks to Nora about it and she's like, oh yeah, I called that. I called that. He's like first 50 rows of a Gaga concert gay. Yes. um
00:44:18
Speaker
And he goes, he grabbed my hair in a way that made me understand the difference between rugby and football. Yes.
00:44:27
Speaker
um ah And he says that he's bi and that he's hooked up with with, he's like, had makeouts with two boys before, but he hasn't had sex with a boy. Yeah. Including the the the writer for Politico that we mentioned, yeah that we met earlier.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah. um But he's invited Henry to be his guest at the prime minister's dinner at the White House. Yeah. And they hadn't like seen each other or like talked in this entire time. Because he won't respond to him because he's he's a a freak.
00:44:58
Speaker
He's a freaking, well, no, he's just, he just is socially awkward. yeah um He doesn't know how to people. Yeah. um But he does show up for the prime minister's um dinner at the White House. And um Alex goes to his like top secret service agent guy. And or who's actually probably one of my favorite characters because she's just hilarious. Yeah.
00:45:27
Speaker
Um, and she's just like, i need you to get me and the prince alone, like some time alone. And, uh, where can we do that? And she's like the red room. So then they have this time to sort of like hash it out and make out.
00:45:45
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah. They, they make out against the wall. Um, the secret service, uh, agent sees them, of course. Yeah. And they break up and walk and let break away from each other so quickly. And het my favorite is Henry's just like, look at all of these books. Books, books, books. This Secret Service agent is like, nope, nope, nope, nope. yeah yeah And Alex is like, ah come to my room or stay away from me or stay 500 feet from me this entire night. And then later come to my room on the like third floor and I'm going to do some unspeakable things to you.
00:46:24
Speaker
Which by which he means blow jibbers. Yep. But then he doesn't. he He's right. You're right. It seems that only he receives blow jibbers. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:34
Speaker
He gives him a blowjibber at the um at the polo match later. This is blowjibber section of the movie. But like, if you're going to say, I'm going to do unspeakable things to you, do unspeakable things. But all that he does is like make out with Henry and then Henry takes his pants off and blowjib. And we know that nothing else happens because Henry is still fully tuxed.
00:46:57
Speaker
Yeah. He's fully tuxed. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it is pretty hot though. Um, ah he says he fancied him from the first time he saw him at the, um, climate conference. Yeah. He has a key around his neck, which is to his, their house in Austin, their original house.
00:47:16
Speaker
Um, and he tells him he's bisexual and he says he's gay as a maypole. Yep. Um, which nobody knows what that means. that It was very funny. I'm sure. I know what a maypole is. They dance around the maypole. You wear like a sundress and you have the thing and you dance around the maypole. It's also a phrase in England that I'm as gay as a maypole.
00:47:38
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, ah he says it has to be very casual. I can't afford you to have to fall in love with me, but come to this charity polo match. yeah um And he attends in some very tight pants, I must say. Not to be crude, but goodness. um but Or as Katie will say, heavens. I wrote heavens. Did you really?
00:48:02
Speaker
Did you write heavens? I wrote heavens during the sex scene. yeah not here. Yeah. They, um yeah, so blowjibber in the, ah in like a shed at the polo match, which is, seems like, that's like a, that seems dangerous. somebody walk in on you. And then they come out so disheveled.
00:48:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, 100%. Not thinking that anyone's going to notice that they just hooked up. Yeah. um They go to Paris. um They do some dirty talk in the cafe. and tells him that his sister knows about them.
00:48:35
Speaker
Or no, he says that his sister knows that they're that he's gay. um The king told him, don't let your selfish desires reflect poorly on the crown, which is accurate. And he said this when he says Prince Henry belongs to Britain. Henry Fox has to belong to himself, which is like the Audre Lorde quote in The Best Man.
00:48:52
Speaker
It's like about like you have to you have to be your own person or else let the um the the weight of others expectations of you crush you into nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um And he says you can't belong to someone else. And he says only momentarily.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah. It sad. And then he says, I think we should make love tonight. um And where I cringed. Yeah. He's like, who says that? Right. Who says make love? oh Oh, of Don't say that.
00:49:23
Speaker
Say, hey, I think we should go all the way. Yeah. Or we should fuck. Like, my God. Like, be an adult. Or let's fuck. Or um wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
00:49:35
Speaker
um Eggplant, peach. Eggplant, peach. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. ah Like any, ah like, well-respected adult.
00:49:45
Speaker
Yeah. um And then they have this pretty frank, like, scene where he's like, okay, so who's gonna do what? And, like, I've never seen that in a movie before where they're like... discussing it um which is nice uh and then we have a very sweet um pretty sexy like pretty explicit sex scene yeah yeah oh yeah yeah um he says i went to he said i went to an english boarding school dear trust me you're in good hands and then i wrote heavens ah but he does a really good job like coaching him through his first time and it's very sweet yes it is um And he says, I can't believe I was wrong about you. And he says, most people are. um And when they talk about politics, and he's like, you know, do you do you like politics? Or is this just something you're suffering through? And he says, no, he loves politics. He wants to help people. um And then he talks about, you know, being a prince isn't politics. It's it's different for him. Like, they're, he didn't, he didn't ask to be born. Yep.
00:50:50
Speaker
He is. He's involved in this whether he wants to or not. And it's not political. Like, that's the thing. Like, the royal family, has they do nothing. They have They're famously not political.
00:51:00
Speaker
Yeah. They have no impact on on things. They just, like, his mother is, like, a philanthropist or whatever. But, like. Yeah. You can help people, but it's just by being a rich celebrity. There's no... um There's nothing involved in that for him. He doesn't want to do it.
00:51:17
Speaker
Yeah. yeah
00:51:20
Speaker
And then he talks about being Hispanic and how it's important to people and it's important to see people in positions of power um that, you know, were not available in previous generations, um which again is a little...
00:51:33
Speaker
ironic to see in 2024. Or, I mean, it's but is what I mean. Um, uh, and then, we have some bits about the Texas strategy. This Miguel character, the evil gay reporter has leaked the, um, him telling him that they were going to flip Texas.
00:51:54
Speaker
Yeah. Miguel and like threatens his mom's reelection campaign multiple times just by being a selfish dick. Yes. Um, laid.
00:52:05
Speaker
Yes. um He, ah his mom um yells at him for, you know, um doing this. And she's like, now I have to tell him there is no Texas strategy. He goes, there is a Texas strategy. I wrote it. We need to register a million new voters. We need to fire up the youth vote. We need to do like a Beto O'Rourke situation. Yep. Worked out great for him. ah um And so after a little bit, she goes to Zara and she's like, let me read this Texas memo. And they're like, okay, fine. We'll do it. You go to Texas. Yeah. And so then we have this other montage.
00:52:39
Speaker
No pressure. You're in charge. No pressure. So he goes to Texas and he implements the Texas strategy. He does a lot of like legwork, um, of like getting new voters. Um, we get one brief little moment of, um,
00:52:55
Speaker
us seeing Republicans there, um just straight up, just giving him the finger as he's trying to register new voters. um and Because again, Republicans don't want people to vote. The the fewer people who vote, the more the better chance Republicans have. And if that doesn't tell you, like, what's wrong with this fucking country, like, I don't know how to explain it any better than that. That's a fact that everyone agrees on, but is somehow not seen as a moral problem. Yep.
00:53:22
Speaker
Yep, yep, yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. um And so he he he implements his strategy and like he's talking to Alex the entire time being like, I wish that you were here.
00:53:33
Speaker
um This is like... Yeah, they're sending emails to each other. Yeah, this is great. Chekhov's emails. Chekhov's emails. and But exhausting and you know I'm just sort of... I just really want to help my mom. I don't want to let my mom down and he just is putting like um unbelievable pressure on himself.
00:53:53
Speaker
um And they're also flirting in the nails. um And then Henry surprises him. ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:04
Speaker
He comes to Austin. And Miguel sees him there. Yep. At the hotel. um They talk about, he asks, what's your favorite movie? And he says, In the Mood for Love, which, good choice. think it's the swooniest movie ever. It very much is. Have you seen In in the Mood for Love? I've never seen it, no. We should do it. It's not a calm comedy by any stretch, but it's we should watch it on this show. as oh what We did The Notebook.
00:54:31
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. it's not as It's not as depressing as The Notebook. It's somewhere in between, yeah. Okay. Um, it's like a love and basketball situation where it's, yeah, yeah. A romance drama, a romantic drama, but not a tragedy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
00:54:47
Speaker
Um, ah and then we have probably my favorite scene in the movie where Zara comes to their hotel room and realizes there's someone there and is trying to find the, the girl, uh, quote, unquote, but instead finds the Prince of England in his hotel room.
00:55:05
Speaker
Yep, and she has a mental breakdown. She's so funny. I love her. ah I don't know. She's on some TV show. Is it Suits? Is she on Suits? Is she on Suits? With Meghan Markle? I mean...
00:55:21
Speaker
She was on some TV show. Maybe it's White Collar. Maybe it's another one. It's one of those things that I, I, I'm not going to watch it, but I'm sure she's good on it because she's great in this movie. She's great. She's like, she looks so familiar that I'm just like, she's been in other stuff. I've seen her in small roles and stuff, but she had, she was like a major character on of some long running cable, um, crime show. Yeah.
00:55:43
Speaker
um ah she says, every time I see you, it takes a year off my life. And she goes, okay, little Laura Fuckleroy, I want you chewing on a crumpet by sundown. And if anyone sees you leaving this hotel, I will Brexit your head from your body. You got me. Um...
00:55:58
Speaker
Uh, but she's, yeah, she's, she's just very funny in that scene. Um, yeah and he goes to tell his mom and, uh, person of interest. Sorry. Person of interest. There it is. I knew it was one of those. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker
But, uh, fairly legal. Fairly legal. Okay. Chill out, USA. 2025 and 2026 viewers will know her um as the therapist on Paradise, which is a fantastic show. Go watch it. out It's on Hulu. Oh, okay. Yeah. i may I got to the second episode of that and I was like, no.
00:56:31
Speaker
No, it's really good. Keep watching. Okay. um ah Yeah. He goes to his mom and he's like, i've seen I'm seeing someone. And she goes, she's not a Republican, is she? And he's like, well.
00:56:45
Speaker
and then know he tells her and then she just treats him so warmly and I cried like just immediately like she was so sweet it made me cry It's so sweet. then she does the embarrassing mom thing where she's like, okay, but like now let's talk about specifics. So are you a bottom or are you a top? Because that's going to be two different things.
00:57:05
Speaker
Like we need to get you on the HPV. We need you to get you HPV vaccination. We need to get you on ah prep. We need to get you on all this other stuff. And you know, you know, you should be using condoms, right? And he goes, ma!
00:57:19
Speaker
Yes. Very cute. Yeah. And now she's like, you got to tell your dad. and And we don't see that scene. We cut to him inviting them all to this like beach house they have in Texas. It's a lake house.
00:57:35
Speaker
Which, whatever. um ah Which is very sweet. They have beaches in Texas. They But in Austin, they have lakes. Oh, it's in Austin. Okay, sure.
00:57:47
Speaker
Yeah. They go to this lake house. It's him and Abby. And oh, yeah. So Abby has this slight side plot that got cut out of the movie, clearly, with um with Henry's friend. ah who They have like two scenes together. um she really likes him. He really likes They want a book.
00:58:07
Speaker
There's a whole thing. um And... His dad is super supportive as well. um He's like, remember, I'm the one who did the the gender neutral bathroom laws in Austin. i'm like, OK. Yeah.
00:58:19
Speaker
OK, OK. There's a bit where Alex is reading One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston, which cute.
00:58:30
Speaker
They're at a bar drinking tequila and and Nicholas Galzine sings Don't Stop Me Now. he does. Of course, we've got to get him in for some ah some karaoke there.
00:58:41
Speaker
The boy sings. um He and he his dad gives him some advice and he's like, you know, no, your mother and I were an odd couple, too. But sometimes you have to jump. Yeah.
00:58:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, because I think it's like it's cut out of the movie. It's hinted at. But his parents were really young when they got together and when he was born. um And they were just like super, super poor.
00:59:07
Speaker
um And his mom like fought her way through the Texas Senate and like really it made a lot of like headway and broke some glass ceilings in terms in for women in politics in Texas and then became president.
00:59:23
Speaker
Are there any women senators from Texas? There was that one. She reminded me a lot of um what's her name that did the famous um what is it called when you just like talk through a hearing to make sure that people don't oh and a filibuster.
00:59:40
Speaker
Yeah, she did that famous filibuster um to prevent um ah abortion rights being taken away. um oh my God. It was huge in like 2017. don't remember.
00:59:52
Speaker
i don't remember um As of right now, there are seven women serving in the Texas Senate. Well, there you go. Yeah. I mean, I was joking. Obviously, I know that there are women senators in Texas. but Yeah. um Not many.
01:00:10
Speaker
i And then ah then he breaks up with him. Yeah, because that's because Alex, Alex gets real. He does. He starts word vomiting had that he's in love with Henry and Henry like freezes up. Just like a woman. Am I right? hmm.
01:00:31
Speaker
And um gives him a lot of just sort of like cues that and Alex should stop talking. But Alex just keeps talking, including through Henry jumping into the lake, la The Graduate.
01:00:48
Speaker
It's, um he's about to say, I love you. And before he can say, I love you, Henry jumps in the lake to get away from him and then leaves. It's crazy. an asshole. ah right oh my God. Leaves and ghosts him. And you're just like, what the, what is going on? And um ah so then it's the, have we already done the DNC?
01:01:14
Speaker
Yeah, we already did the date. Oh, okay. And he goes, we go to England he's talking to his sister. He's like, I ended things with Alex. I felt myself getting too close. And he's like, the idea of royalty is so antiquated. What we do has no impact on people's lives. And I'm like, yeah, you're right, Henry.
01:01:30
Speaker
You're so right. um And she's like, do you love him? And he's like, what difference would it make? Um... And then we have a scene with Alex and Nora. Nora's like, go get your man. Yeah, she has gives him the go get your girl speech.
01:01:47
Speaker
Yeah. Also, the politician I was talking about was Wendy Davis. Okay, sure. Yeah, Wendy Davis. Yeah. um So then he storms the castle.
01:02:01
Speaker
Yeah, literally. In the pouring rain, he goes to Kensington Palace, I believe is where it is. Yeah, I believe so. And um in the middle of the night, and was like, listen, you got to talk to me. He says, I can't turn my feelings off like you. And um he says, it costs you nothing.
01:02:21
Speaker
And then I wrote, are you joking? Like nothing costs you anything, your majesty. What the fuck are you talking about?
01:02:29
Speaker
Let's be real. talking about in Let's be ah real. No, here's here's the thing. They get to an important point, but his first point is bullshit. Like it doesn't matter. If his like, listen, gay people have, have, have dealt with worse than not being the Prince of England before you entitled piece of shit.
01:02:51
Speaker
Like, all right yeah right. Yeah. You're going to come out and you might lose your family. Okay. Yeah, sure. That's true of like every gay person ever settled down. This isn't about you. Um,
01:03:03
Speaker
um That's fair. and That's fair. Oh, I'm sorry. you So you might not be the richest person in England, but you'll still be like, you you're going to get engaged to the the president's son. i think you'll live. i You'll be fine.
01:03:19
Speaker
But no, they get to the point where he's like, he doesn't want a life in politics. And whether this works out or not, that is still the end goal here because he's saying he's not sure if he wants to have a relationship with with the son of the president.
01:03:37
Speaker
Yeah. Like he's saying, you want a life in politics and I don't. Like I'm third in line. It's possible for me to, to, you know, do something else with my life, whether I come out of the closet or not. And that is a valid point that doesn't really get addressed. Yeah. It's sort of glazed over.
01:03:55
Speaker
Yeah. It happens a lot in rom-coms where it's like, here's a serious, here's a serious problem that this relationship might have. Let's not worry about it. Let's agree to not worry about about it. Yeah. Just don't worry about it.
01:04:07
Speaker
That also happens in real life, you know? like Yeah. Yeah. But instead he's like, let me show you something. And he takes out this magical key to break them out Hensington Palace. Well, earlier he says he's never had a key. So like it's supposed to be this idea of like now he has a key. He's found this thing that he has agency over, right? um to sneak out of the palace and into the Victorian Albert Museum, which I guess if you're the Prince of England, you can just go whenever you want.
01:04:34
Speaker
go? Which is the best. It is my favorite museum in London. Oh, yeah. It's real good. If you have an opportunity to go to the B&A, go to the B&A. Yeah. Much better than the British Museum, which is like colonialism, the museum. Yeah. um If you've ever been to the Acropolis and wondered where half of the Acropolis is, it's at the British Museum. It's at the British Museum!
01:04:56
Speaker
Give it back. ah um Along with a lot of other things. Yes. Including like a lot pieces of the pyramids and the whole kinds of shit. like Everything that in the British Museum does a blog in the British Museum.
01:05:11
Speaker
But the V&A is great. Yes, it is. It's like art and like homoerotic sculptures is where they're at. They're in the homoerotic sculpture garden. Which I have been in that homoerotic sculpture garden many times.
01:05:22
Speaker
It's great. It's right by the gift shop. nice yeah um he and then he's like you know i wanted to bring somebody here in the middle of the night and dance with them and so he alex puts can't help falling in love with you covered by perfume genius um on and they dance in the museum and it's very it's very sweet um he says please be patient with us and i promise to be brave for us oh And then he gives him his ring, which happens much earlier in the book. but yeah um And then Alex gives him the key. And then I wrote, and then everything goes to shit.
01:05:57
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Because he's just like, this is where, so that I can be with you when I'm not with you. yes. And um Alex goes off on his in his private plane and Henry goes back with his dog, who they cut out too much of this dog. There should be more of the dog.
01:06:15
Speaker
David Bowie gets cut out of the movie, yeah. absolute nonsense but um he is in bed with david bowie his dog i should say um when he's david bowie famously dead at the time this movie was made famously dead at the time but the name of the dog uh and he hears kerfuffle coming from outside of his room and he goes and everyone's in their pjs and you're like oh my god somebody die what' It sounds like a bunch of old British men going. but bla bla but bla my mom um And what do you know? It is a bunch of old British men going. But wow mom um my mom my mom but his sister B. ah Sidelines him and breaks the news that um his email was hacked. And the emails between him and Alex ah have been leaked on Twitter.
01:07:05
Speaker
And he's like, how many of the emails? And she goes, all of them. And somebody also supported that with ah security footage of you guys ah in the V&A after hours looking off noodley.
01:07:20
Speaker
um ah Which is realistic. i'm ah England, ah famous for their paparazzi. um yeah but yeah But it wasn't broken by a British reporter.
01:07:33
Speaker
That's true. It was broken by an evil gay reporter from America. An evil gay reporter who even gets called out on the news, which is just like, so it's so interesting that these, the Reddit thread with these, um these emails, it was posted at like 11.50 PM on Sunday night.
01:07:54
Speaker
And then your article about those emails was released 2 AM. the next day. How did you write it so quickly in two hours? And like, instead of being like, well, I'm just, instead of giving like a good example, he automatically goes, I don't get what you're insinuating at.
01:08:11
Speaker
Yeah. um In the book, in the book, it's the evil Republican running against his mom that that leaks all this stuff. um And there's like, again, like it's 150 pages of this in the book where it kind of slowly, methodically, all these things get worked out. It's, it's, I mean, it's good to pace it up in the movie, but there are, you know, there's some um subtleties that get,
01:08:35
Speaker
glazed over for sure yeah we really sort of blazed through this last sort of bit because charlie was just like yeah it at the vna whenever it was just like they were being really sweet and they had that really nice moment um charlie was like and then they could have ended the movie there they could have ended the movie there but there was like 45 minutes left yeah there's a lot of it um ah it's um he They have this whole thing. So Zara is like, it's possible you either won or lost your mother the election. um And he starts talking about Henry and how much he misses it. And Zara just like rolling her eyes.
01:09:13
Speaker
ah She goes and gets her phone. She's like, own I have to do everything around here. And she goes and calls ah Sean, the equerry. Yep. And she's like, we need to get these two lovesick homosexuals on the phone with each other. um Or you're never going to see me naked again. So they've been sleeping together too.
01:09:33
Speaker
ah Right? And she goes to Alex, she goes, yeah, you might be terrible at Queen Secrets, but I'm great at it. Yes. of a So he goes to see him in London. um ah They have a cute little thing where they're on the piano and he plays Yankee Doodle and then ah Alex plays God Save the Queen, or as it's act really known, My Country Tis of Thee. Yep. Yep.
01:09:58
Speaker
they
01:10:01
Speaker
ah He says, they loved the idea of me. I'm like, hey, that's a movie you were in. Yeah, I know, right? I said that too. i was like, he said it. He said it.
01:10:11
Speaker
um The king wishes to see both of you. Yeah. And then we see the evil king and his evil brother. Yeah. The evil king, of course. Played by famously gay Sir Stephen Fry.
01:10:24
Speaker
yeah Which I just loved. I loved. Is he is love Sir Stephen
Film's Climactic Moments
01:10:28
Speaker
Fry? Yeah, he's Sir Stephen Fry. oh i He's been knighted. And he is famously, fabulously gay as a maypole, baby.
01:10:37
Speaker
Yes, yes, he is. um and ah But not in this movie. um Or maybe he is. Who knows? Who knows? He is like, ah so this is over. We're not doing any of this. And they're like, yes, we are. And um his evil brother is there. And he's like, i deserve to be happy. um And he's like, your responsibility is not to your heart. It's to your country. We must maintain a traditional royal image.
01:11:04
Speaker
He says the nation will not accept a homosexual. Homosexual. Homosexual, he says. Homosexual. And then they're like, ah sir, a large crowd has gathered. And then there's like all these people like, oh, yes. With pride flags.
01:11:22
Speaker
Everybody. And it's like there's – and they go – When I think of England, i think of giant crowds like telling people what to do, like influencing decisions. Yeah. B, his sister, is like, it's like not just in London. It's also in all the major cities in the UK.
01:11:40
Speaker
yeah There are crowds gathering everywhere to give Henry support. And I was like, gays to the rescue! Gays to the rescue! yeah that's the that's the point where we dip fully into science fiction. Yeah.
01:11:55
Speaker
And then it's all fixed by the gays. Yes. um Yeah. And so they go out of the balcony and then we cut to, i presume a few months later and it's election night. Yeah. Which i got really stressed out by just because of the past few elections. I don't know. I know, right? You see that map and you break into a cold sweat.
01:12:15
Speaker
I was just like, oh no, you got to win Texas. You got to win Texas. Not the map. Every four years I have to learn about the electoral college all over again. What is the point of it?
01:12:27
Speaker
um I said the king softens, which is wildly inaccurate. um And then we have a Casey McQuiston cameo as the speech writer working on Uma Thurman's concession speech at the end. with Oh, there go. A little Easter egg.
01:12:40
Speaker
um And the entire race hangs on Texas. You don't say. Yeah. um Didn't seem like we were building up to that at all. Yeah. And I wrote, no way in hell the gay sun will help carry Texas for a Democrat. Not in this world. I'm sorry.
01:12:58
Speaker
They simply hate us too much. Yeah. Just true. you're thinking, like, you'd look at the electoral map, um and like, the county map of Texas, and you are starting to feel like, yeah,
01:13:09
Speaker
Uma Thurman's not going to be president again. The thing about Texas, much like every state, is nobody lives in all of those red counties. like yeah But it's very daunting looking at it and seeing it yeah like 75% in red. yeah um And so he like goes and he's like,
01:13:24
Speaker
he's with henry and he's like my mom's writing her concession speech like i just i just don't want to let my mom down like this could be all my fault and digital dida and then they hear cheering and just you know euphoric noises coming from the uh viewing room and they run out and wouldn't you know the gays won texas they did it they pulled it off um the gays saved the day again
01:13:54
Speaker
um And then we give a speech and then he's like, let's get out of here. And I guess they slip the Secret Service because the Secret Service isn't there. um ah which And then they both get shot. That's what happens at the end. Yeah, um they both get shot and they die holding each other's hands.
01:14:07
Speaker
Yeah. um They sneak off to his house in Austin and ah and that's the end. That's the end. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. And the sequel comes out later this year.
01:14:18
Speaker
I'm so excited. I'm so, so excited. I genuinely liked it. I did think it was a little bit of a hair too long. But I think it felt longer than... It's almost two hours long, Yeah. I think it felt a little bit too long because of the amount of montages in it. Because I was just like, there's just too many montages. Like, I cannot have this many montages. I'm not watching the video. They easily...
01:14:39
Speaker
They easily could have made this like a seven episode miniseries. Oh yeah. And that would have been great. That would have been fine to like chunk it up, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But like, I, I mean, I'm, I'm glad it's a movie. I think more things should be movies. Um, it was, uh, not released in theaters as far as I, I know. I don't think it was straight to prime.
01:14:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it's Amazon. Yeah. Um, yeah. Red, white and Royal wedding, uh, coming soon. Yeah. And
Realism and Political Satire
01:15:04
Speaker
this brings us to Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner.
01:15:08
Speaker
Charlie's Corner. right Governor?
01:15:13
Speaker
Charlie came into this movie with extremely low expectations. you thought it reasonable i think yeah He thought it was going to be a Hallmark movie. um He thought it was going to be like um what is the one with the crime solving dog? Yeah.
01:15:31
Speaker
Oh, he thought it was going to be that bad? um Jazz Ramsey? Yeah, thought it was going to like Jazz Ramsey. And um he so he was pleasantly surprised. He really enjoyed a lot of the writing in the movie. um he also felt it was like a hair too long.
01:15:48
Speaker
But um his main thing was he can't conceivably believe that this would ever happen in real life. To which I said, you never know. I agree. i unfortunately feel like the this is a this is a Biden era movie for sure. you know like This is one of those things where we thought we were out of it. you know like Kamala Harris was running for president. Like, okay, maybe things will be okay. And they're not. No, they're bad.
01:16:18
Speaker
And everything's bad and getting worse. Yeah. um So maybe we'll see, you know, maybe one day. ah who knows? I think this is that fictive pocket universe that we're never going to see, Katie. And it makes me real sad.
01:16:33
Speaker
Yeah. I want to see the two gay heads of state be gay together and fabulous and love each other and have a woman for president. And then her um her uh uh oh my gosh biracial son run for president when he's of age and uh have him win and do it's one of those things where it's like just like England we probably will have a woman we definitely will have a woman president at some point but just like England she's probably gonna be the worst person you've ever known you know that's how it's gonna go
01:17:09
Speaker
We're going to get a woman president, but it's she's going to be the she's going to be a huge piece of shit. you know Yeah, it's not going to be the direction that we think it's going to go. No, yeah, the Republicans are going to be the ones who get a woman to be president, and she's going to be evil.
01:17:24
Speaker
Yep, yep. It's going to be Kristi Noem. no it's not No, no, she's done. She's over. i don't know. She might make her comeback and run her entire campaign for dog-killing ways.
01:17:39
Speaker
her and her husband yeah um heavens it's always those republicans too though you know like and oh of course it is it's always the ones that are like so aggressively like heterosexual norm values that are really the ones that like
01:18:03
Speaker
you know, stuff comes out about and you're like, Hey, yeah maybe just be honest with yourself. I'm not here to be yes or yum. You can do whatever perverted thing you want to do. That's fine. Exactly. You do whatever perverted thing you want to do. Just like, don't bash people that are also into the same kinky shit as you. Yeah. Come on, man.
01:18:22
Speaker
Right? Like, don't you want other people to play with? Yeah. That sounded gross. It came out of my mouth. It did sound gross. Listen, this is your edit. So you're in charge. Anyways, what are we doing next week,
Upcoming Discussions and Sign-off
01:18:35
Speaker
Katie?
01:18:35
Speaker
Next week we're going to do a classic, more calm than ROM, I would say, But I'm a Cheerleader. Yeah! It's a movie that demands to be seen, whether it fits the bill 100% or not. There's some ROM in it. There's some ROM in I'd say for Pride Month, it is canon LGBT ROM-com.
01:19:00
Speaker
Yes, yes, yes. we don't We don't have a lot to choose from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. i Yeah, I was thinking the other day, I was like, I don't think that there is rom-com starring any trans person.
01:19:14
Speaker
um There are. there are um there's There's one. um i haven't seen it. It's called, um it's from like over 10 years ago, which makes me skeptical about it. Yeah, yeah.
01:19:26
Speaker
Um, it's called, oh, what is it called? Um, I don't remember, but there is definitely at least one. I'm sure there are some like super low budget ones, but this one is like, you know, it's low budget, but it got like released and went to film festivals and stuff. And I had, no, no, no. I had tangerine.
01:19:45
Speaker
Definitely not a long time. No, this is deaf this is a straight up rom-com. Okay. And it's a rom it's a bisexual romance triangle, I believe. Oh, okay. Between um a boy and ah an a cis woman and a trans woman.
01:20:00
Speaker
Okay. And for the life of me, I can't remember what it's called. Oh, well. Maybe one day we'll think of it. Yeah. But yes, we're doing, um but I'm a cheerleader.
01:20:11
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I'm so excited. This is my cousin's favorite movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Well, shall we outro? Let's outro. All right.
01:20:22
Speaker
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01:20:37
Speaker
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01:20:48
Speaker
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