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High School Musical 1
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WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!! Join Emma and Katie as they tackle their first DCOM: the 2006 Zach Efron classic High School Musical. Tune in as they chat how this became a global phenomenon, how East High's hiring practices should be severely questioned and which songs are memorable and which are not. Put on your fanciest hat and chunky belt to see these kids belt out some questionable songs.
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Weather and Wuthering Heights Discussion
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boy oh boy hi katie hi emma how are you doing oh it's a beautiful day it's gonna be 70 degrees here i love that it's like 60 degrees here we have all the windows
00:00:18
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Don't worry, it's going to snow by the weekend. Shut up!
00:00:23
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No! No! In Chicago, I'm sure it'll be very nice in Connecticut. No, it's supposed to snow here too. Devastating. It's like, why?
00:00:34
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Why tease us, Mother Nature? Why would you do this to us? Why do you forsaken us? um Did I tell you that I finished reading Wuthering Heights?
00:00:47
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You finished you finished it Yeah, it's kind bummer, huh? Yeah, I say reading. I was listening to it. um Sure. too Tomato, tomato. My ears were reading. Yeah. Yeah. ah Big old bummer. um Not the same as the movie?
00:01:04
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Absolutely not. And I think it's helpful that I know knew that. yeah or knew nothing about the book going into the film. Yeah. And I can safely say that they are two completely different beasts.
00:01:18
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I'd Wuthering Heights is that old school classic... literature told from a story a tale of a man hearing a story from a person who's hearing a story from a person blah blah blah sad sad sad um and uh being a woman in the 19th century sucked Being a woman sucked.
00:01:43
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Also, like, Kathy's only in half of it. Then she dies. And then it's her daughter. And her daughter's life was great until Heathcliff came along and was like, I'm gonna fuck shit up.
00:01:58
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ah And... He's bad guy. Yeah, he's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. ah And he needs to train his dogs better. um But so now I can safely say that the film Wuthering Heights, if you were to go see it, please know that it is not the book.
Book Club Traditions and Opinions
00:02:20
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It is more or less fan fiction. Correct. That's what I've heard. Yes. From inspired by these characters. Right.
00:02:32
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so uh i still love it i mean happy for you you're the only person i know who likes it yeah i mean how can you not it's jacob alordi and being like ah with a cunty little earring like i i just and the costumes are beautiful like i still love it i'm still gonna watch it again it's very divisive divisive film um But yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:03:00
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So now i've I've started on a new book, which is for my book club. And I'm so in love, Katie. I think you need to read this book. I don't know if you've read this or not. Have you read Shield of Sparrows?
00:03:12
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Never heard of it. Oh, my God. It's a romantic. see It's so addicting. It's enemies to lovers. It's just... It's great. i It's classic, like... so Sarah J. Moss vibes.
00:03:29
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ah I can't stop listening to it. Sure. You can listen to the dramatized version, which I love. I'm not going to do that. Oh, the dramatized versions are fun. I can't listen. I can't listen to fiction audio books. We've had this conversation before. Oh, yeah. Well, read it.
00:03:44
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It's a big old book.
00:03:47
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Are there more of them? There's more of them already. there's Yeah. Or there's going to be more. Yeah. I don't know. It's for our book club, um my college book club, which is my friends, Waldron, and Kelsey, and myself. And we pick a book a month and ah we send each other little treats inspired by the book.
00:04:06
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And nice yeah, it's really cute. And then we we talk about the book. And my favorite discussion that we've had thus far has been have you read Katabasis or Katab-whatever? No, but I've I've heard of it. I know. um um That's R.F. Kwong. Is that? Yeah.
00:04:25
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Yeah. Yeah. Here's a spoiler. The book is bad. I've heard that. so fucking boring. It's so boring. i We all hated it. And we just talked about how stupid and dumb it was for an hour. And it made me so happy.
00:04:41
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Her previous book, I hear, is really good. And then i remember reading, I think it was the New York Times. It was some like really legitimate place, just absolutely trashed Katabasis. Yeah. Well, they should because it was bad.
00:04:55
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It was real bad. Everything that you thought was going to happen didn't happen. And it was confusing and like stupid and also boring at the same time. ah So, yeah, so we've done. um ah what was the first book? that Is it like a science fiction book club? Is that what you're doing?
00:05:11
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it's like he book club It's like a fantasy book club, um but we've sort done like different genres. Our first book was Slewfoot and I sent them um goat's milk lotion from a goat farm in Connecticut because it's about witches and goats in Connecticut. Oh, that's nice. Look how cute.
00:05:29
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And then our our second book was... um ah Oh, it was... ah Oh, God. It was a rom-com book about... Oh, um...
00:05:41
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Good spirits. It's like opposite ah Christmas Carol. it Sure. Where like um a ghost of Christmas past comes to haunt this girl. So it's ah about a nice person and ghosts try to get her to be mean? That's the opposite of a Christmas Carol.
00:05:57
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Kind of but not really. it's It's a nice person and a ghost comes to show her the error of her ways and he's like, there's no error of your ways. I'm so confused. And then they fall in love and they bang.
00:06:08
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And my friend Waldron said just- Yeah. Okay. ah it And then it's a Christmas book. um And then, and my friend Waldron sent us all like a peppermint hat. Hold on, hold on second. You tried to justify someone having sex with a ghost by saying, well, it's a Christmas book. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. It's a Christmas book. Don't worry about it. Christmas magic. It makes anything possible.
00:06:32
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Um... and And then we read Catabasis, which was bad. And my friend Kelsey sent us all Oxford ah notebooks and jelly pens.
00:06:45
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And then we did um ah ah Song of Achilles, which was pretty good. And I sent everybody um ah little ah candles that smell like fig and honey that say the name of the two Achilles and Petrochus.
00:07:04
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Petrochus. pats Yeah, that guy. um You'd love to add an extra syllable into names. Have you noticed that? i I actually have never noticed that, but it doesn't surprise me. Yeah, yeah. um And now here we are reading Sheetal of Sparrows. So it's like, it's a fun book club.
00:07:23
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Nice.
Fictional Story Setup and High School Musical Intro
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Well, if anybody wants to read any of those, you can email Emma at gogetyourgirlpod at gmail.com. Yes. If you liked Katabasis and want to discuss it,
00:07:35
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Email us at go get your girl pod at gmail.com. And I also please include. was going to say email Madison Smith. At. at
00:07:48
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um You can email me, but also please include a sanity test so that I know that you're sane. sanity test. I don't know if that's a, I don't know. ah you You invent it.
00:08:05
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Don't know. Yeah. Anyways, ah sanity tests famously featured in today's film.
00:08:14
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That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where and Katie are just... one conjoined twin nerd and they meet a cute boy at some s ski lodge and we sing a duet and we're like wow you can really sing and they're like wow you can really sing and then we never see them we expect to never see them again but lo and behold fate has different plans and we end up
00:08:47
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At his high school where he is the queen bee of all high school. And ah he's really into but butooo pooppaooop basketball.
00:08:58
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ah That was me dribbling a ball. yeah And ah and we our homeroom is in drama club.
00:09:09
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And there's some really, really intense theater kids there that just want to be the leads in the musical all the time. And there's a musical coming up and we're like a little shy. We don't know if we should audition.
00:09:20
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um But then we do audition, but like don't audition and we get a callback and then it like creates chaos. um Yeah, that's right.
00:09:32
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I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. And today we are, we're not on the hudgetop, but it's ah it's a hot hudge Sunday. a hot hudge Sunday. day as we talk about the 2006 Disney Channel original movie, classic yeah High School Musical. As Emma has titled this room, High School Musical 1. Which leads me to believe...
00:09:59
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that we are going to need need to know the difference between these rooms eventually. Absolutely. i did that on purpose so that you would know but that we will be doing all High School Musicals. And congratulations, friends. we We have made it to our first DCOM.
00:10:15
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ah No, right? Didn't we do another one? Did we do another one? we talked about them a lot, but I don't think, I guess we talked about them when we did The Princess Diaries, maybe. Yeah, we've talked about them and we've done Disney movies, Disney in theater releases, but we've never done a Disney Channel original movie. We didn't Girl of the 21st Century. No, no, that's coming up. Whatever century she's from.
00:10:39
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21st century. No, that's too soon. the twenty first century is this century. I mean, they all had BW Beatles. It is 21st century. You're right Oh, the movie came out in 99. So it was one year off.
00:10:55
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Yeah. Yeah. um Because we got to go zoom, zoom, zoom. Make my heart go boom, boom. My secret girl. That's a bad movie. I love it.
00:11:07
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And this movie, I shall say, welcome to our first D-Con, friends. And also... Boy, is this such a classic sitcom. Oh my gosh. Do I have to let another cat in?
00:11:18
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This movie is 20 years old. This is the 20th anniversary of High School Musical. All of these people are in their 40s now. This movie is directed by ah the great Kenny Ortega. He, um famous for choreographing a lot of stuff. He choreographed Dirty Dancing, which we've done on this show. um But he's direct he's directed a few movies, too.
00:11:42
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ah He most famously directed Hocus Pocus and Newsies. the Yes, Newsies! um every Every millennial girl's sexual awakening.
00:11:56
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Newsies. um ah Yeah. And we um he also choreographed Xanadu, where he was mentored by Gene Kelly into the field of choreography, which is um I mean, if you're going to get mentored into choreography, that's the person to do it.
00:12:11
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Right. I mean, who else is better except maybe Fred Astaire? I mean, it it's different kinds of stuff. um But classical musical theater, like, yeah. Yeah. But Kenny Artiga has molded the minds of millennials everywhere.
00:12:27
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Yes. um ah This movie is written by Peter Barroschini, who has made these movies, and then a bunch of ah religious films after this, oh which is um seems about right. It seems on track.
00:12:42
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um If someone told me that this was a Christian child ah film, I would believe you. Yeah. Well, there's actually surprisingly no Jesus in this.
00:12:53
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I mean, there's no mentions of Jesus, but they're all they're all very clean cut. ah Yeah. I mean, they do portray the Disney Channel original movie version of a stoner, which I think is so funny.
00:13:08
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um Because they're not stoners. They're just lazy. Yeah, they're just skater boys. Yeah. They're just skater boys. They're not stoners. They're definitely not doing drugs.
00:13:19
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no ah ah Yeah, so this was inspired by a musical episode of Even Stevens that um was very popular. And so they were like, let's make Grease 3.
00:13:33
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And they had the rights to make Grease 3. They were going to do it with Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, because of course you would. Why would you not? um And then like things fell apart. And this is what ended up from, from that. Instead, they cast a bunch of unknowns and made it a TV movie instead of an actual movie and yes not a weird sequel to Greece.
00:13:57
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Yes. It's just about a musical at a high school. is it It's not about a musical. Here's the thing. It's not about a musical at a high school. It is about the bizarre audition process for a musical at a high school. We never see Twinkle Town, the musical ah that they're going to. I'm sorry, the musicale.
00:14:18
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yeah but That they do. yeah they're They're going to perform in this. ah and that We don't get that far. The movie ends but long before before rehearsals even start. Yep. And they built a set and before rehearsals even start. this it well I believe those sets were made for the auditions, actually. It's crazy.
00:14:36
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This is like, this high school is completely fucked up. ah this This high school is insane. yes There's only two teachers, much like a lot of the high schools we see in rom-coms. Classic rom-com school hiring process. Two
High School Musical Cultural Impact and Critiques
00:14:53
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teachers. Seriously underfunded, clearly. The drama department is sucking all the money out of this school. They can't afford any teachers.
00:15:00
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They can't afford any teachers except for a basketball coach and a drama teacher and a vice principal. That's correct. Yes. um Those are the only adults yeah in this movie. um ah Well, oh no he does have a mom because i yeah I kept forgetting that his mom showed up at the beginning at the very beginning at the ski lodge because I was thinking that ah the drama teacher the basketball coach were going to fall in love for him.
00:15:27
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um Also, don't forget we see Gabriela's mom. gabriela gabrieella's Gabriela's mom, who's apparently like ah you know some kind of high-powered attorney or businesswoman or something. I thought she was like in sales.
00:15:40
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I don't know. She makes a ton of money because they have ah a super nice mansion in Albuquerque. Yeah. And she's a giant bed or poster bed. yeah With a balcony the size of her entire bedroom. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
00:15:53
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Um, yes. So we're getting ahead of ourselves. Um, kind of our thing. I mean, how can you not? with High school musical. It was a phenomenon. It came out in 2006. I was no longer in high school by 2006. I believe you were.
00:16:11
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It was your last. It was your. Yeah. 2006, I was either a junior or senior. yeah Not to age myself. um But so Charlie and I had a lengthy discussion at the end of this because Charlie had never seen this.
00:16:25
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So... Not surprised. Yeah. This is absolutely not surprised. um He was just like, ah yeah, this was not a big deal. I mean, like it was ah obviously we knew about it in England, but like it wasn't as big of a deal as it was over here.
00:16:40
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um And by the end of it, I was like, you know what? After watching this movie, I get that. This is so quintessential American that you just it's it's not it's not it's it's quintessential the planet Mars. What are you talking about?
00:16:57
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This is this is a nonsense. so This has no relationship or similarity to any high school that's ever existed on planet Earth.
00:17:08
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If I ever wanted to feel like, yes, this is a snapshot of what it's like to be an American high school in 2006, I'd say absolutely. Absolutely. Crazy talk. of This is...
00:17:28
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If British people thought this is what American high school was like, no wonder they hate all of us. Yeah. This is ah deranged. um I don't understand anything that's happening in this high school. Yeah. And it's got this, it's very bizarre architecture ah for the high school, but, but you know, yeah, if you can tell it's real high school. Like you can tell, I mean, some of the stuff like looks normal, but most of it doesn't. It looks very strange. The weird, weird. three floor cafeteria they have. I mean, some of these things had to be sets, right? Like I think that with the big, with the big dance numbers like that had to be a set. There's no way that, that a very narrow three floor deep cafeteria doesn't make any sense. I mean, we need to have it for levels. Yeah.
00:18:17
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I mean, yeah. ah Yeah, yeah it's like it's like a set from Anything Goes is what it is. We need these levels. Look at blocking. But we're so far ahead of ourselves. Okay, okay.
00:18:29
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New Year's Eve 2006, presumably. oh I thought it would be like New Year's Eve 2005. You're so right. You're so right. December 31st, 2005. Yes. Day. Where were you?
00:18:40
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near's day yeah where where were you New Year's Eve have no idea. I could not tell you. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:52
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So they are both at this ski lodge because their parents are rich. um There's an adult party and a kids party. Yep. We learn that Troy it loves basketball. all And he just like, he's at a ski lodge, but he's playing basketball. Yeah.
00:19:12
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Yes, in what is clearly not a basketball court. um ah And it's like some room where they hung a basketball goal. Yep. He and his father, ah who are playing basketball, and that is all they ever want to do.
00:19:26
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We meet Gabriella, who is shy and wants to read her book, and her mom makes her go interact with teens and She is in the teen center reading a book. Yeah, who brings a book to the teen center where they're having karaoke of no songs you've ever heard of.
00:19:43
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No, they're having original song karaoke. um And it's also a weird, cruel kind of karaoke where the person manning the spotlight decides who's going to sing.
00:19:55
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yeahp yep. yup And these two people, these two strangers, get thrust into the spotlight together. And surprise, surprise, not only are both of them very familiar with this song, but...
00:20:09
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And can sing, but natural performers. Natural performers. They're vamping. They're doing runs. They are so comfortable on stage immediately singing this song.
00:20:21
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You would have to think, boy, there's no way that these guys are this good of an actors. But then you see them pretend to be shy two seconds later. And you're like, oh, no, these are Oscar award winning performances. Yeah.
00:20:36
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of You know, i don't think The Hud is ever going to get nominated for an Oscar, but Zac Efron certainly got robbed in 2023. I think we talked about this before. You haven't seen The Iron Claw, right? haven't seen The Iron Claw, but you loved it.
00:20:52
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It's, I mean, love is a strong word because it's a movie that I don't think I ever want to watch again because it's so upsetting, but it is, it's fantastic. He's incredible in it.
00:21:03
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Yeah. um ah it's ah Yeah. It's because of this movie that he didn't get. What's going on? get Somebody is hammering something outside of my back door. What were we talking about? um We were talking about, so they are doing crazy karaoke. um Oh God, we're only that far. Yeah. um i they And they have this emotional connection. Yep. Oh, Zac Efron. Yeah, I think Zac Efron has given some good performances, especially in in that he is 19 years old in this and he is um what the French call les incompetents. Yeah.
00:21:44
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and He's enthusiastic is what he is. Quite bad in this movie. and So enthusiastic. From what I remember, gets better as he goes. But like, I mean, is this his first is this his first role? Like, had he done stuff before? I'm pretty sure this is like his first thing. Yeah, yeah. It's gotta to be. um Yeah, I mean, the first acting that I did wasn't good either. So, you know, no offense to Mr. Efron. Exactly. His just happened to be on a DCOM.
00:22:10
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Um, slight, slight, probably shouldn't talk about this, but, um, I almost never have sex dreams. yeah Um, like some people have sex all the time. Caitlin has sex dream constantly. Yeah. I almost never have sex dreams. One of the very few sex dreams I've ever had was about Zac Efron.
00:22:29
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Oh yeah. I mean, I get that. He's rather that zaddy bod. yeah Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this was in like, you know, five years ago. This was like, yeah. Yeah. Adult man. Yeah. Adult man.
00:22:43
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Yeah. Very grown up. Hairy. Yeah. Solid in his thirties. Zac Efron. Yeah. Yes. He's doing that documentary series with his brother, Zac Efron.
00:22:56
Speaker
Is he? Or he did. He did like a travel show. Oh, the travel. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. The travel thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was really into it. um And I was really into him. The Hudge. um I don't know if she's gotten a lot better since this.
00:23:11
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ah Not a lot of difference except for she looks older. She does. She looks like a tiny baby in this. How old is she? Zac Efron's 19. He also looks like a teeny tiny baby. but like i I typed The Hudge into IMDB. That didn't help. She is 17.
00:23:28
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she is seventeen Oh my God. 18. No, 17. Yeah. 17. Woof. And she looks like she's about 12 and she talks like she likes she's got this like, I mean, I guess she still does, but she has this little baby voice. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:49
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I mean, it the only difference is that she's gotten a little bit more confident with her baby voice. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. um And they sing a song which is called Start of Something New, I believe. Yeah, I don't know. The Start Something New, yeah. It's not one of the ones you're going to be singing on the way home.
00:24:08
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The musical is, all the songs are written by bunch of different people. Like, I was going to credit all of the songwriters on this, but there's like 12 of them. And like, you know. I was going to say, no, all the songs in the musicale are written by Kelsey.
00:24:21
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Right. Let's put a pin in Kelsey. We'll come back to Kelsey. Um, and they have this moment where they're like, oh my God, I didn't know I could sing even though also. Okay. So Zac Efron is dubbed in this. He is not, um, doing his own singing. He's the only one, right?
00:24:39
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Um, I don't know. Um, I just He's like the only one. Well, the problem is they wrote everything too high for him. It's not that he can't sing because he does sing in the sequels and he's sung in other stuff. But um he's a baritone and these songs are very high and he yeah can't sing them. so So instead of altering the music, they just dubbed him.
00:25:03
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Yep. They just hired another person. And then in two and three, they they wrote the songs in yeah a lower key for him. Yeah. Good job. um And the muse the the the audio is so overproduced. Oh God. And like...
00:25:22
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It's so bad. It's really, really bad. Yeah. The sound of it. It must have been different coming out of a television, but like in like a 2005 television or 2006. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. but like yeah Because like listening to it,
00:25:39
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in ah I was about to say on an adult television. On a TV for adults, right? Yeah. On a TV for adults. um Like, especially in the cafeteria song.
00:25:51
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um The, like, I've got a little secret song. oh the Anytime multiple people sing together. Anytime there's, like, ah like group audio together. Like, it's it's a completely different level. The microphone is 50 feet away from it. Yes. And I'm like, what what is happening? Who mixed this? This is terrible.
00:26:09
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it's Again, this is a TV movie. This was low budget. Like yeah when this became, I think that as we continue to watch these, and again, we're we're not watching we're not we're not watching them in a row. This is not going to be like Mamma Mia. We're going to spread these out.
00:26:23
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Spread them out, baby. As they get, I think as they get better, bet bigger budgets and stuff, I think that that will will change. But yeah um part of it is that, yeah, this is a TV movie. Yeah.
00:26:36
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Um, it is, uh, it sounds very poor. Um, and does not sound like people singing live in a room whatsoever. Nope. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But also like, I mean, and it is quite impressive that they took it and then it was a huge stage musical for many, many high schools. Oh yeah heard yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, yeah. Oh, even before like high school started doing it, like these people, like the actors toured this around the country oh yeah like you know classic disney machine child yeah labor machine of yeah this is a thing that you're good at let's go make you do this a thousand gajillion times for a thousand bajillion people um and uh you know at some point they they i guess they had to learn to play basketball and sing at the same time yeah
00:27:28
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Yeah. Doesn't seem easy. Um, ah yes so they count down to new year's together. They get out their flip phones and put each other's numbers in their phones.
00:27:40
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Yep. And he's like, where do you live? And she's gone. And she's gone. She's just, she's gone back to her book. Yeah. And we cut to Albuquerque, New Mexico. is Which is Salt Lake City, Utah, for some reason. Like, why not? Right. I mean, again, I feel like, like we talked about this before, they don't want to set things in Salt Lake because they don't want the Mormon connection. Yep.
00:28:00
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But why Albuquerque? Why not just California? I don't understand. Like, what a random ass location. Yeah, like maybe the writers from there. I don't know. But again, we're all and I guess we're all super familiar with Albuquerque now because of like Breaking Bad and stuff. But like, I'm not this does not look like Albuquerque. You've never seen Breaking Bad?
00:28:20
Speaker
No. You never watched it? Really? No. Yeah. I just assumed everyone had seen it. It's such a phenomenon. No, I knew. I mean, I'm I'm not a I'm not a huge Breaking Bad fan. I'm ah I'm not I'm not a hater, but i I don't think it's as good as everybody else does. There's just like nothing about it that makes me want to watch it.
00:28:39
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Yeah, yeah, I get that. yeah Yeah. It's like, what if a man was evil? And it's like, but they already are He's i mean, that's the thing. Like he's he's an he's a horrible, like vain, prideful asshole at the very beginning of of it. And then he just starts killing people. Like that's the only change that happens to his character. Yeah.
00:28:59
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Which, I don't know, it's fine. there's There's some good things in Breaking Bad. It's not like a bad show or anything, but I don't have the, I'm not hype on it as much as everybody else. I think um Better Call Saul is really good. Better Call Saul is great.
00:29:13
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um Very different show. um anyway ah he plays basketball which is hilarious because he's like yeah five five um and not only does he play basketball he's the captain of the basketball team and he is mr basketball he's mr basketball and everybody loves troy bolton troy bolton is like he is the king of this high school of east high go wildcats
00:29:42
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um We have Corbin Blue, who is yes um his friend who doesn't have a number in this movie. Nope. um Which is funny because he's shocking he's like the theater kid. Like yeah out of all of the cast of this, he's the one who's like done the most like Broadway stuff. Right. yeah Am I wrong? Yeah. Oh, no, you are absolutely right. He is also, i would argue, maybe the most talent, like multi-talented one in the entire cast.
00:30:08
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Yeah. um Because he truly is triple threat. He can act. He can dance. He can sing. Yeah. That is questionable for everybody else. um Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. ah um ah The. um Yes. So then we meet, of course, Ashley Tisdale.
00:30:28
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Yeah. As Sharpay. Yep. The character who I relate to the most. Oh, God damn it. No, you don't. Again, this is a theater kid from from from the imagination of a diseased mind. This is almost offensive to theater kids, um is this bitch. um she's She's like, what if Paris Hilton was a theater kid? This is like, okay, first of all, this movie begat Glee 100%, right? Like there would be no Glee without this. There would be, this movie walked so that Glee could run.
00:31:09
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So that Glee could drag us all through the fucking dirt. Okay, first season of Glee was great. ah The first half of the first season of Glee was pretty good, I think, yeah. Yes.
00:31:20
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Then they had to get weird with it. um So Ashley Tisdale iss from The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. she is um She's Candace from Phineas and Ferb. Love her as Candace on Phineas and Ferb.
00:31:32
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quite a great show. um And there's so this high school exists in another dimension where no one is allowed to do more than one thing.
00:31:46
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Yes. um It's a it's like a high school though. I mean, if I'm being honest, like that's kind of high school. It's It's at the very end of when you could still make a high school movie about that kind of shit. Like, yeah, just a few years later, we have like 21 Jump Street kind of showing how much high school has changed in those 10 years. And the way like the difference between the elder millennials and the younger millennials like changed a lot. Like high school changed so much in the from the early to the late 2000s.
00:32:24
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And this movie is, and again, it's partially because of the grease thing. I feel like this movie is so 1970s in its, in its like the, the, the clicks and the way people act and everything. It's yeah. It feels very old, even by 2006 standards.
00:32:47
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Yeah, I mean, they just sort of like, um, want to make sure that everybody has their box and they stay in their box. They do their thing. And that's but like to an almost dystopian degree. Like it it's like if you took like the the cafeteria of Mean Girls, but made it a musical.
00:33:04
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Yeah, but Mean Girls is a little bit more self-aware than this. I feel like Mean Girls is Mean Girls is satirical and this is playing it straight. Yeah, if you took the cafeteria from Mean Girls and were like, let's make, this is this is the Bible.
00:33:22
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Yeah, yeah. It's, um yeah, because I mean, i mean i mean I'm sure cliques still exist in high school today, but but they have all changed. Yeah. people move between those things much more so. And they, and they, and they were then too. And it's, that is what this movie is about. This movie is about this high school where no one's allowed to do more than one thing. Because like I was in theater in high school, ah you know ah just a couple of years before this movie came out and the theater department, the choir department, all of that, there were tons of people in all of those things. There were, there were goths, there were nerds, there were athletes, there were,
00:34:01
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like super popular kids. Everybody did everything at my, at my high school. And so I have to assume it couldn't have been that uncommon at all high schools.
00:34:12
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Like I didn't. I mean, the thing about my high school was that um it was very clicky and like everybody had their thing. Well, you're you also into a private Catholic high school, which I imagine must be different. ah I was going to say the main thing that everybody had in common was Jesus.
00:34:30
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Yikes. Yikes. ah It was like you liked Jesus or you didn't like Jesus. and like Right, right, right. I mean, that's true. where That's true of every high school.
00:34:45
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In fact, everyone in the world either likes Jesus or doesn't like Jesus. or doesn't acknowledge Jesus. There's a third category. You're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah. It's not that, I mean...
00:34:56
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I like Jesus, guess. I guess. I mean, have I met the guy? No. So I cannot say for sure. From what I know about Jesus, seems like a good guy. mean, I don't know. I would pro-Jesus.
00:35:11
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um i don't think that he's like, you know, magic, but I don't dislike him i yeah as a person. i I mean, i i don't know the guy, so I cannot speak.
00:35:22
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I can't speak to that.
00:35:25
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We're canceling Jesus on this episode of Go Get Your Girl. Seems like he seemed to make everything about himself. So I don't know if we would get a along.
00:35:37
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Bit of a bit of a a diva, Jesus. He just constantly is talking about his dad and it's just sort of like, dude, up.
00:35:51
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A full dozen of the dozens just unsubscribed. They were like, no. um Anyways, so High School Musical. so So for some reason, their homeroom is in the drama club. Okay, so I was very confused at first because it's one of those things where this happens all the time in moot in high school movies where they start a class, the class lasts for 45 seconds, and then class is over. yeah But that's homeroom. So that does kind of make sense. Homeroom is like, you know, 10, 15 minutes. that I get that.
00:36:20
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I never had a homeroom. You didn't have homeroom class? No. Interesting. Okay. We definitely did. And home everybody had a different homeroom. And yeah, our theater teacher had a homeroom. So your your homeroom could be theater in my high school for sure. I i never had yeah Dr. Coram as homeroom, but it was possible for sure. Yeah. um ah Shout out to Dr. Debbie Coram, my high school theater director.
00:36:43
Speaker
Go Wildcats. Yeah. go toppers. My high school ah mascot was toppers. Don't get me started. So they were the, I went to science Hill high school in Johnson city, Tennessee. Um, is this doxing myself? This might be too much.
00:37:01
Speaker
Um, we were the, we were the hill toppers now. What is a hilltopper, you may ask? What is a hilltopper? No one knows. No one knows. We didn't have a mascot, but our our logo, our symbol was a top hat, a cane, and gloves, which is... is in East Tennessee, and our rivals were like Daniel Boone High School, um Davy Crockett High School, and they were like...
00:37:37
Speaker
um And then here's the gay guys. Dobbins Bennett was like, they were the, were they the Indians? or i think they were the Indians. um So it was all like, it was, yeah, it was we were the gayest high school football team possible. Here's the gay guys. In Eastern Tennessee. It's just ridiculous that they did that. Surely i I wonder if that if there's still if that's still their logo. um It's crazy. That's insane. Yes. Our sports teams were not good, which is why our theater and music departments were so good and had money, because that's what we did.
00:38:16
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um
00:38:19
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What were we talking about? Yeah. homeroom so they're homeroom oh my god we're five minutes into this movie gabriella has started high school in albuquerque and yeah she's like i don't want to be the weird smart kid again i don't want to be the freaky genius girl it's like all right settle down gabriella right right calm down we we don't know if you're a genius yet yeah uh and troy bolton's like basketball And they're homes together. It is aggressively basketball, much like another movie we watched recently. What was it? Oh, it was um Love and Basketball. The Princess
Character Dynamics and Social Commentary
00:38:57
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Diaries. The cheerleaders just doing cheers out in the out in the quad, which is, again, I've never seen anybody in real life do that. um
00:39:06
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But here's just basketball players just doing basketball. We have the theater teacher, and i need to camp out on the theater teacher. Yep. Go on.
00:39:17
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I feel like someone who hates theater wrote this movie. Oh! Someone who got bullied by their high school theater teacher. I guess. um ah she is, um, she's a horrible person. Um, she browbeats people into auditioning, but then treats everyone cruelly when she does. Yep. She, um, she calls everything musicale, which is very, very annoying.
00:39:47
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yeah Um, I want to know, I have to know what the musical is about. It's called Twinkle Town. I didn't even remember what the name of the musical was. It seems insane. How do you not? Like they mentioned it like three times in this movie and that's all the information we get about. One in one ear and out the other.
00:40:06
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it is it is, I mean, it's supposed to be funny, I'm sure, but it is like. It's a love story. It's borderline offensive to theater kids. Yeah. um ah And so we have Sharpay and her gay brother, Ryan, who are, it's very similar to the Amy Poehler, Will Arnett characters in ah Blades of Glory, where they are auditioning to play a couple in the musical. And nobody see they nobody thinks that's weird. No no one wait that says there anything about it in this movie, which is crazy. And every single song that they sing is like, I love you and you love me and I love you and here we are a couple.
00:40:52
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That is, that's about the level of, of lyrics we're working, we're dealing with in this movie, by the way, we should say. Yep. Yep. Um, ah they. hard to believe. it it Yep.
00:41:03
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Yeah. Yeah. It's, oh man, it's rough. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, big love to Kelsey. She's 16 years old. She's doing the best she can. It's very impressive that she wrote musical at all.
00:41:14
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um Not a musical, a musical. musical. The the winter musicale, yes. Yes. um ah This woman needs to be brought again, like... again like Charges at the Hague. Like what a. Crimes against humanity. She also dresses like every single. Obnoxious teacher on on a Disney channel. Television show. Oh yeah. She's got you know. Like everything she wears. It looks like she bought from. ah The gift shop at an art museum.
00:41:45
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and Yes. She's like. She's very like. The art of theater cannot be. Like she talks like that the entire movie. yeah um Is she in the sequels? I don't remember if she's in the sequels. I think she's in the second one because the second one's about senior year.
00:42:01
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no no. The third one's about senior year. The second one is there. It's like that they have summer jobs at Sharpay's parents place or something. Yeah. Sharpay's country club.
00:42:13
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's when we get my favorite high school musical song of all time. Is it bet on it? It's bet on it. Yeah. Bet on it is a good song. um ah There's really only one good song in this, ah in this, in this movie. We're all together. I debate that.
00:42:34
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I debate that. Get your head in the game. Get your head in the game. Yeah, get your head in the game is fine. Get your head in the game is such a classic. Yeah, and then it's it's a dance number. It's not really ah ah a song. like they just It's like chanting. and get Get your head in the game. Get your get your head in the game.
00:42:51
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um And then lots of squeaks of um basketball shoes. It's like Shapoopy, you know? Shapoopy. More of a dance number than a song. I mean, we're flying, soaring.
00:43:03
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Yeah, I think that's real bad. Yeah. But it gets stuck in your head. um And ah oh oh, what other ones? Oh my gosh. ah We're all in this together. solo song was so bad i had I started skipping forward. Like couldn't take it Like her song, it's...
00:43:23
Speaker
awful she is i mean again she's 17 years old god knows i love the hudge no disrespect on the hudge yep but like our like 100th hudge film it's it's it's only our third um but we've got at least four more to come yeah um She is, um she's singing in a very obnoxious style that was very popular at the time of 2006.
00:43:51
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Yep. This is pre Bieber. I realized also, I was like, he's got a Bieber haircut. No Bieber has a Troy Bolton haircut. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was just, I mean, i texted my cousin. So we went out to eat with my cousin and her boyfriend yesterday. um And I was mentioning that we were going to watch this movie when we got home.
00:44:09
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And her boyfriend got so excited. He was like, I just made Maddie watch that for the first time. And like, He was the right age for this film. And he was the quintessential. Oh, he's a little younger than us?
00:44:22
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Yeah. he was the like He was the prime audience. ah Because middle schoolers yeah is the prime audience for this movie. Exactly. It not for high schoolers. yeah No. and that I had to explain that to Charlie, too. He was just like, so who is this movie for? And I was like, well, theoretically, you'd think high schoolers because it takes place to the high school.
00:44:41
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But in my experience, Disney Channel original movies are only cool when you're in middle school. Yeah, and younger. Like, i mean, it's like Saved by the Bell. Saved by the Bell it was not a high school show. Saved by the Bell was came on Saturday mornings. It was for little kids. It's for late elementary, early middle school. And that's what this movie is for, too. Yeah. yeah I was watching the It's aspirational for high school. Yeah. Yeah. yeah i was too busy watching really hard having hard-hitting drama. The OC. The OC. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:10
Speaker
The OC. Which, the fact that they never did a musical episode makes me really upset. We'll go to East High, bitch. um It's...
00:45:24
Speaker
I need that. I'm trying to picture what the musical episode of the OC would be like, and it's it's it's but it's hard to picture. Obviously, Seth would be really good at singing, and Ryan would be the one that's like doing this, and he's like, here I am. Can Adam Brody sing?
00:45:40
Speaker
don't know if he can sing. I have no idea if he can sing, but he is just going off the characters. Yeah, And then, um yeah, you'd get like a little duet with... ah with summer and um oh god what was her name the other one that seth cohen wanted to bang that he was in a love triangle with um the one they replaced the actress of little pixie cut anyways back to high school musical um yeah so i i literally texted last night i was just like
00:46:18
Speaker
more boys need to bring back the swoopy cut. And he sent over a picture of him in high school and he legit had the swoopy cut. He had the little bowl cut. Caitlin's brother had it too. Yeah. yeah the flat ironed. Yeah.
00:46:32
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Boy, oh boy. It was just culture. Yeah. It was bad. It was a bad culture. Anyways. So they're in homeroom. Oh my God.
00:46:43
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So Zac Efron calls Gabriela to prove that it is Gabriela in homeroom. He sees her at the corner of his eye and he's like, oh my God, is that her? Yeah. Yeah. And then her phone goes off and Sharpay thinks it's her phone.
00:46:56
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And so a bunch of people bring out their their cell phones and the drum teacher is like, no cell phones in my class. Detention. ah Which apparently detention is a working detention where you go and you work on the set.
00:47:12
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Painting sets is detention in this high school. It's crazy. um they The drama teacher rules this school with an iron fist. yeah um No one else like is has any control over what happens in this school other than the drama teacher.
00:47:29
Speaker
Right. um Everyone gets detention. Everyone is is painting sets on stage. Yeah. whatco he's He's missing... So they have important basketball time.
00:47:40
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They have free period in this high school, which is not a thing um that existed in any high school that wasn't on TV. Yep. um Where they have to they have to do basketball during free. You have to do basketball. So he's there for that, which is when they sing, get your head in the game, which is so like, what's the I want song in this is the I want song something new. It's got to be right.
00:48:05
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It's got to be. yeah because they want something new. should They want to sing. yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So Get Your Head in the Game is like the conflict song where this is about, you know, he can't do anything but basketball. He has to focus on basketball. Yes.
00:48:24
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And we have an elaborate dance number. i do One thing I love about this musical is how much dancing there is in it. like that we used to We used to dance in musicals in this country. yeah And at some point they were like,
00:48:37
Speaker
We're not dancing anymore in big musicals, but God bless Kenny Ortega. bless him. and He loves these elaborate dance numbers. Are these elaborate dance numbers a little too complicated for some of the dancing extras in this movie? Absolutely they are.
00:48:54
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a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. It's not big dance numbers but that you're thinking of, guys. It's big dance numbers where they're trying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. it's not It's not exactly Newsies, you know? Exactly, exactly. They couldn't get all of the, like, child actors in l a They didn't have the budget for it. Well, no, they couldn't afford it. You know, I think a lot of these things are just, they're probably, there are they are extras. They're like, all right, you can you can you move your hands and arms at the same time? right You're a basketball player now. Right? Can you do this little box step? Cool. Do this box step.
00:49:29
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Everybody loves a jazz square, Emma. Everyone loves a jazz square. um There. So, yeah. So, and then he's there at detention. The coach, who's also his dad, his dad is the coach and the coach is his dad.
00:49:43
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Yep. We can't hire another adult actor. It has to be the same person. And he is the only adult who has like a journey of growth. um Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um He comes in and he says, he's relatively. goes, what the heck are those people doing in that tree? Which I think is a very funny thing to say. Yeah.
00:50:04
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What the heck are those kids doing in that tree? um ah And pulls his basketball players out of detention. Like, yeah no no one's in charge. Nope. and Well, no, that's a lie. There are two people in charge at this high school. They just are constantly butting heads. That's true. That's true. um ah For a while, like, there's very little adult supervision. Like, Troy seems to be running basketball practice mostly on his own, and his dad kind of comes in and in and out occasionally. Yep.
00:50:32
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um And the academic decathlon doesn't seem to have a a faculty sponsor at all. of It's just run by um what is her name? she's She's horrible. The nerd girl. Yeah, the nerd girl. Oh, just kidding. there Remember, Gabrielle is in algebra class and there's another teacher there who i have to assume is the faculty sponsor for the decathlon. you're right. She but corrects her. She sucks at math.
00:51:00
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She's like, no, it's 16 over pi. She's like, it's it's not 16 over pi. yeah Right? She's like, absolutely not. And then she does the numbers. She goes, oh, I stand correct. And everyone's like, ooh, Gabriella's smart. Yeah. And there's this whole thing with auditions for the musicale. And most of the movie is about them like, oh, don't know. Should I audition for the musicale? I don't know if I can sing and play basketball at the same time.
00:51:28
Speaker
Um, and everyone's like, no, you can't sing. There's no singing. What is wrong with you? Yes. No one says, no one says the word gay in this movie, but that's definitely the implication. Like when he tells his dad, ah what if I wanted to do something other than play basketball? His dad gives him this look. That's like,
00:51:49
Speaker
what are you talking about? He's like, I love basketball, um but what if I could do basketball in another thing? And his dad is like visibly shaken. It's so funny.
00:52:02
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That actually puts this movie in a whole new light. Like, if you go into watching High School Musical knowing that it is just a metaphor for your awakening of bisexuality, then it really is a little bit more moving, I'd say, at the end when we're all in this together. We're all in together. You know, it's an LGBTQIA community. It has a very strict...
00:52:25
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it has a very strict It's a very straight and clear um moral. And that is what this musical is about. And it is about very little else.
00:52:38
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Twinkle Town. We got to talk about Sharpay and Ryan. Yes. They. So we come in. We have. And then there's Kelsey. Kelsey. Yep. Our non-binary queen.
00:52:52
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i don't think, I was just i thought she was a lesbian, but okay. I thought she was non-binary. Well, good for her. um that is Good for them. I was going to say, good for them.
00:53:02
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Well, listen, she goes by she, her pronouns in this movie, so ok should respect So maybe lesbian. Yeah. She's the character that I identify the most with. Of course. Yeah.
00:53:14
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Yeah. The composer slash playwright of Twinkle Town. And Zac Efron is like the only person who's nice to her. yeah Yep.
00:53:26
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Which again, not leaning into the stereotype that King of the High School has to be a jerk. No, he's nice, and everyone else in this movie is an asshole. Yes! Gabriella, and yeah, so the plot of this music movie is like, what if two nice people came to a high school where everyone's a bitch? Yep.
00:53:45
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Because the nerd girl is maybe the bitchiest person in the whole movie. She is like- Isn't she the that comes up with the video conference call thing? It's just like- The nerd girl is the only one who's like actively bullying anybody. Like, Sharpay and Ryan are kind of the villains, but not really. They don't really do anything all that bad except move get the the date of the of the audition moved. All they want to do is they want to perform. And it is their life to perform. And people are getting in their way.
00:54:21
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Sharpay is a very misunderstood character. oh my God. Sharpay is insane. Yeah. but All of my notes on this movie, because I did take some notes because i was like, how can I not? They're all about the fashion.
00:54:35
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The fashion ignore. There's so many blazers. Why are there so many blazers in this high school? That's what you did. you wore they They're all wearing the lowest rise pants.
00:54:46
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Yep. Like cargo pants. They're wearing like the the camisoles. Yeah. Dress over jeans. With with the um i the lace collar on them. Yep. And like a little blazer over top of it. And a lot of them are wearing hats. There's a lot of hats in this movie. So many hats.
00:55:06
Speaker
And kitten heels. So many kitten heels. hit And kitten heels, yes. Do run weird in kitten heels? But they're constantly- How do you not run weird in kitten heels? There's no other way to run in kitten heels.
00:55:22
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Oh, man. um Yes. So they so they're like the Kelsey who wrote the musical in the musical is like starting to play the song. And Sharpay is like, no, no, we had someone arrange our own version of the song. Yeah.
00:55:36
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Yeah. They hired someone to do a different like ah an uptempo version of the song. Yeah. And we get the full number with choreography and everything. Yeah.
00:55:50
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It's hard to describe. oh my God. They have their own microphones, their own handheld mics. These are auditions. Also, the drama teacher is having singular auditions. And this is the only time where we have live. There's two scenes in this that has live um singing in it. um And it's the first part of the audition. when When Sharpay and Ryan start their audition, immediately it click changes to the vocal track. You can hear the difference, obviously. Exactly. But all of the other kids, the kids who are bad, they all sing live.
00:56:22
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Yep. Yep. And then went in the balcony, when Zac Efron reprises um the start of Something New, that's him singing live. And that's the only part time Zac Efron sings in this movie. um You stay beside me.
00:56:41
Speaker
And it sounds so much better. ah both of the Yeah. Anyway... um Then ah out of chance, the drama teacher hears Zac Efron and the hudge singing with ah Kelsey at the piano. Singing the way how the song is supposed to sound. And they're like, she's like, the song is supposed to sound like this. And it like, it sounds like shit.
00:57:04
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um yeah And I mean, the other version sounded like shit too, but just, you know, yeah yeah it was at least it was up tempo. um And she's like, we will have a call back.
00:57:17
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In a week. Yep. There will be sets and costumes at the callbacks. Yep. There'll be a huge audience. It's. I don't understand the rehearsal process that happens. I don't like nobody's ever auditioned this way. Yeah. Nobody did any research into how a musical is put together before they wrote this. Right. And it's like, why are we having pairs auditions that you have to pair yourself up for, for the leads and then singular auditions for the ensemble? Like this doesn't, doesn't make any sense. Nobody's ever, nobody's ever done that in,
00:57:55
Speaker
high school ever and right very rarely in professional would you do like a pair audition for anything like you would do you would do chemistry tests after you've already had singular auditions yeah but having people come up with first of all a song and everything on their own to audition for you is crazy costume lights all the sets like flying down pieces of sets it's insane
00:58:24
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This is all just for the drama teacher. it's It's all just for the audition for the musical.
00:58:32
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Oh So most of the movie takes place where they're debating whether or not they're going to do this and whether they can marry these two things. We have what's probably my favorite, again, not the best song, but my favorite number, which is, um what is it called? Stay in your zone or whatever.
00:58:52
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Oh, yeah. stay or Stay in your lane. um ah Stick to the status quo. Stick to the status quo. Which is and a blatant ripoff of You Can't Stop the Beat from Hairspray. Yeah, obviously.
00:59:08
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Actionably. The vamp and the verse is like... Bum, bum, ba-dum, ba-dum, bum, bum. when I told you why I played basketball. It's like, what what is it? What is happening?
00:59:25
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I like to bake. Yeah. And then they pick the whitest girl, the whitest, whitest girl to be into hip hop dancing. and i think that's the end I think that's the intent. yeah She's popping and locking and dropping and I'm like, I feel low-key offended for her.
00:59:43
Speaker
um because That's what somebody says, like is that even allowed? Yeah. It is. It's pretty funny, I think. Yeah. It's like, so we have Zeke, my favorite character. Okay. um One of the only other nice people in the ah in the entire ah musical. Yeah, in the entire movie.
01:00:01
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He is a basketball player and he likes to bake. And everyone's like, shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? You like to bake. Yeah. He's like, I made creme brulee. And the chorus is like, no, no, no, no.
01:00:13
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Right? She's like, what? This is also the scene where we get um our Disney Channel stoner circle where the guy there're the guy is like, I've got a secret to hide. i play the cello. And they're all like, what's a cello? Whoa.
01:00:31
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Yes. And then he's like, it's an instrument. he's like, do you have to wear a costume? He's like, coat in tails. And they're like, Fuck you, man. It's crazy.
01:00:42
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It's like, yeah, it's these three different people in three different cliques and each of them have like a secret. They like to do something else. And all of them are like, shut your fucking mouth. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, no, no, no.
01:00:55
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It's very funny. And Sharpay is watching from two levels above and she, and then she has this like bridge. This is not what I want. This is not what I need. it's It's very funny. And I feel like it's mostly intentionally funny. like Yeah.
01:01:11
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it is It is supposed to be ridiculous and and funny, I think, right?
01:01:17
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I'm on the fence with that. Because on one level, you know that they were just taking this so seriously. Because it's DCOM. it's it's It's a DCOM. Forget it, Jake. It's DCOM.
01:01:28
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But like in hindsight, it is very funny. But I don't know if like i I honestly think that they were taking this so seriously. Really? Yeah. I don't think anything was intentionally funny. If it was intentionally funny, it like the Disney channel way to make something intentionally funny is not subtle.
01:01:48
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You would know. You're right. it would be intentionally funny. um Like they would put a pie in someone's face. yeah And be like rela comedy.
01:02:02
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um ah Yes. So, you
Climax and Consequences in High School Musical
01:02:04
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know, tensions are rising and the assholes in the um ah academic decathlon and the assholes in the basketball team decide to work together. And they're like, yeah listen, these two people, they want to sing. We all agree that's insane. Right. And they're like, yeah. Yeah.
01:02:22
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Yeah, we have to ruin their relationship so we can have normal things things go back to normal because now people are talking about baking and playing the cello and I can't handle that.
01:02:35
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There's too many cross contamination of clicks. yeah So they set up this this trap where they the basketball team confronts Troy and the nerds confront Gabriella.
01:02:54
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And in confronting Troy, they're like, you have to dedicate yourself to the basketball team. You can't be distracted by anything else. Singing can't matter. Gabriella can't matter. We have to win the championship.
01:03:04
Speaker
Which is in two The championship basketball game, which is in late January, in the middle of the afternoon on a Friday. the middle the afternoon. I was so confused. This was another thing that was like um a ah culture...
01:03:20
Speaker
difference for charlie because he was just like why are you so shocked that they're playing basketball after at 330 i was like because no basketball game is gonna be at 330 it's gonna be not a championship not a championship basketball game absolutely not especially other team's gotta have time to get there yes like and it would also be in like April at the, yeah ah you know, not there's no way the season would be over in January. Basketball doesn't even start until like December. Right. In high school. Right. I mean, we're the wrong people to ask. We don't know.
01:03:56
Speaker
But basketball is a winter sport. The championship would be in the spring. There's, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. No way that it would be in January. Also, is it the state championship? Is it like, I don't even know who they play. Do they play West High?
01:04:12
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They play West High, yeah. the The academic decathlon and the basketball team are both against West High, yeah. Okay. Well, then, you know, there you go. so so they're they're they're recording um him. and Without his consent.
01:04:34
Speaker
Without his consent, which is a crime. AI slop. They have... a an incredible live wireless connection, video connection for 2006, where it's crystal clear him on the laptop saying, I don't care about singing. I don't care about Gabriela. I'll dedicate myself to the team.
01:04:54
Speaker
All I care about is basketball. Get your head in the game. Who are we? Wildcats. Who are we? Wildcats. Yeah. They show this to Gabriella and a single tear runs down her cheek and then she has a solo song which is interminable. That nobody cares about. It's also like six minutes long. It's so long. I kept hitting the 10 second, 10 second, 10 second like button to move forward. It was, boy oh boy was to watch and listen to. think mentally checked out.
01:05:20
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. um So who knows what she says during that? Nobody has got the time. for um And ah then off screen, everyone decides to be a good person.
01:05:36
Speaker
Sharpay and Ryan, because they do whatever they want, realize that the academic decathlon and the... um basketball champions the basketball game or at the same time and the auditions are the day before and she's like why don't we get the auditions moved and they're like what a great idea so they tell the drama teacher who again is evil yep we should move the auditions and she's like great idea i'll do whatever you say right she's like of course i don't want anyone to uh ruin my drama school
01:06:10
Speaker
um So the auditions, the decathlon and the basketball team are all game are all the same time. And so they have to figure out what to do. They have approximately 14 minutes because of Sharpay and Ryan's incredibly elaborate callback.
01:06:24
Speaker
so yeah Which is offensive to Spanish speakers everywhere. so Fucking racist.
01:06:35
Speaker
Oh my God. It's so bad. I'm pretty sure at the beginning of the song, I'm just saying whatever Spanish words pop in their head. They say, a reba um ah
01:06:48
Speaker
it's, I mean, I guess like, again, like, It could be Spanish and not like, yeah you know, Mexican or or Latin American, in which case I guess it wouldn't be racist, but it's very culturally it sensitive yeah no insensitive. insensitive.
01:07:02
Speaker
Because they're both two extremely white, extremely blonde, yeah brother and sister. Yes. Brother and sister. Yeah.
01:07:15
Speaker
Why? why are they brother and sister? i That's a very unique choice. Why could they? would you write it that way and then not have anyone comment on it? Because they can't say that he's just her gay bestie. i mean, yeah that is that is what it, I mean, that's gotta to be what it is. Like, he is very clearly gay. The actor is definitely gay. 1000% gay.
01:07:40
Speaker
they're Although apparently not in, you know. I did some research. um I noticed. Well, I just I clicked on his IMDb trivia and it was like, he's very active in his church and he does this with this church. And I'm like, oh, I i know who this guy is. oh And then I i i did did a little Googling and apparently he has a girlfriend on Instagram. So, you know, he's also like 42 years old. Like, that's just sad.
01:08:04
Speaker
just Just come out of the closet. Come on, man. We know. We all have known. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you're not fooling anybody. Arriba. God knows you're gay, man. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You could be gay and go to church.
01:08:20
Speaker
I don't know why, but people do it. But you can. Um, oh boy. Like this. oh How do we, why why do we get into such religious talk? I don't know. You're the one that said that this is like, it takes place in Salt Lake City, but doesn't take place in Salt Lake lake City.
01:08:37
Speaker
um a And then we just talked about Jesus for a solid 10 minutes. Anyways. So those they mix up the audition. So now everyone is like, oh no, we can't do all three things.
01:08:50
Speaker
What are we going to do? His dad, the nerds and the basketball team ah all off screen, all simultaneously decide that what they've done is wrong and have a change of heart.
01:09:03
Speaker
Which is crazy. Like, I guess this movie is like pretty much right at 90, like 95 minutes and yeah they might've cut some things, but how do you not have the antagonists like change their mind on camera? Like that's crazy. i feel like it's a very Disney channel thing to do though, because it's like a very complicated emotional journey that you have to take these other people on, but we don't have time for that because we want to see more hats.
01:09:32
Speaker
Yeah. We, there's a lot of hats. um Kelsey wears a lot of hats too. Yeah, Ryan and Kelsey have like a hat on in every scene. It's weird. Yeah.
01:09:43
Speaker
Yeah. His a fedora, hers a little page boy cap. Oh no they're different ones Like they have a bunch of different hats I know There are different varieties of fedoras and pageboard caps No no no She's wearing a bowler at one point Because i wrote she's dressed like Charlie fucking Chappell at the end She's got like a little bow tie and a vest And a bowler Forgot about For the final callbacks For the callbacks yeah um so Love Kelsey um ah kelsey shows Kelsey's in all three of them right Kelsey is Kelsey gets a bigger role
01:10:15
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. i know I know that she grows her hair out. I remember from the third one. She has long hair, yeah. Yeah. ah But, so, they go... The nerds and the basketball team all apologize to Gabriela and Zac Efron. And yes they're like, what we did was wrong.
01:10:32
Speaker
And now we've screwed up things and things are screwed up for you. And you can't we want you to be able to sing and go to your callback. they're like, but how are we going to do all three? And they're like, we'll come up with a massive plan. Well, good. Yeah, they really do. Right. So all of this is counterscored to pop and bop bop into the top. The the Ryan and Sharpay callback number.
01:11:01
Speaker
Yeah. Which is yeah awful. Insane. um Absolutely. And so we keep cutting back to that. But the basketball game is starting. Yeah. The nerds are crazy.
01:11:12
Speaker
Hack into the basketball game with hacking. Because computers. And cause the scoreboard to to short out, which makes them evacuate the gym.
01:11:24
Speaker
Yep. Evacuate the gym. I don't that's what would happen. And then, like, at this math competition, there's also Well, this is important, so.
01:11:36
Speaker
What happens is... There's different events in the decathlon. I'm assuming there's 10.
01:11:43
Speaker
And um Gabriela wins her math event. And then there's some kind of chemistry event afterward. Which it they seemingly tank intentionally. yeah Because that's their beaker.
01:11:57
Speaker
yep And they cause some kind of poison gas to come out. And they have to evacuate the decathlon. And they later say that they won. so does that mean they just picked the chemistry one to intentionally lose and then won the other nine events? So one still won the decathlon? guess so.
01:12:12
Speaker
yeah I feel like if you make poison gas, that is going to, that will eliminate you from the competition, no matter how well you do in the other events. Nope. Not, not, uh, not at each It's like, in the decathlon at the Olympics, if during the shooting event, you turn to the gun on the crowd, like, I don't think you can still win the gold medal after that.
01:12:42
Speaker
Well, who makes these rules? Wildcats. Yeah, apparently. So those things get evacuated. yeah They run to the to the auditorium for the callback. The crowds from both Decathlon and the the basketball game all crowd in.
01:12:59
Speaker
yeahp They get to sing, even though originally the drama teacher doesn't want to let them do it. And sing. Because they're like a minute late or something. Yeah. They sing a very shrill song.
01:13:11
Speaker
Bye-bye. Him saying, him going flying is like, is just jarring every time he says it. Yeah. it And they're like, they're they're make doing crowd work. They're like, have this whole like choreography. She's twirling in her skirt, but yet no one sees her underwear. There's a big paper moon that gets flown down. Yep.
01:13:35
Speaker
of There's stage hands for that. Yeah. ah For the callback position. yeah um And then ah So they get the part They go to the basketball game He wins the basketball game She won the decathlon Sharpay and Ryan don't care That they didn't get the part It's yeah just my favorite thing They're like immediately Sharpay's like Hey congrats I'm glad that it was you Even though I didn't What are you talking about You tried to sabotage her many times
01:14:12
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um And then they sing We're All In This Together. All In This Together. Which is, again, I love a curtain call song in a musical. yeah Yeah. All of the musicals that I've written have curtain call songs. it's It's just, you got to do it, right? Yeah, do it. It's so much fun.
01:14:30
Speaker
um ah And ah it's it's the only, I would say, like, good song in this in this musical. Ah. It's definitely the one that you're going to be singing.
01:14:41
Speaker
ah It's very catchy. that's what you want. That's what you want in a curtain call song. That is like, and it's a like a benediction to the audience as well. Like Don't Feed the Plants is a curtain call song. um um Children Will Listen is a curtain call song. Like they are like, it's telling the audience like what to take from it and go into the, go into the world yeah with this in your heart. That's what the curtain call song is We're all in this together. where um Charlie,
01:15:07
Speaker
got wrapped around the axle. on We're all in this together because everybody changed in two different outfits.
Musical Universe and Movie Humor
01:15:15
Speaker
yeah And he was like, wait, why is she, why did she change? Why did she change? She had to put on like a sexy red dress. What are you talking about? I was like, they all have to be in red or white for the East High colors. And he was like, she was already in, she was already in those colors. Her lab coat was white.
01:15:32
Speaker
Well, not her lab coat, Charlie, come on. She takes the lab coat off at the callback anyway.
01:15:39
Speaker
ah And she he got confused why Torb Bolton changed from his uniform to a different outfit. and it To like his warm up outfit. Yeah. yeah The white um like thing on. I don't know.
01:15:53
Speaker
I don't know. ah But everybody's friends all all together, even Sharpay and Ryan, they um they do a whole bit. um ah there's There's a scene where Zeke tries to give Sharpay some cookies and she's like, no. And then Ryan takes them and there's like this moment. And I was like, oh my God. Are they there's no there's to I feel like, and again,
01:16:19
Speaker
i Okay, directed by a gay man. yeah I feel like there is intentionally a little moment of that yeah where Ryan takes the cookies and he does this little look at Zeke for a second.
01:16:32
Speaker
But then, of course, in the post-credit scene, it's undercut because Sharpay comes back and is like, I love the cookies and like attacks him, and that's the end of the movie. Yeah. Well, we can at least dream that in a different universe, it would have gotten more of a moment.
01:16:48
Speaker
I mean, I'm sure there's gay people in High School Musical, the musical, the show. um There's gotta to be. that That came out much later with Jenna Ortega. Jenna Ortega and... Olivia Rodrigo?
01:17:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah, Olivia Rodrigo. I like, Jenna Ortega's not in that? um Look, they're both very small and have dark hair. Yeah.
01:17:12
Speaker
um With Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter both. Oh, Sabrina Carpenter was it? Oh, that makes I'm pretty sure they were both in it, yeah. Yeah, because Sabrina Carpenter, because Olivia Rodrigo wrote Driver's License about that guy.
01:17:28
Speaker
About s Sabrina Carpenter, yeah. Like, to stole the boy from Jenna Ortega, right? Yeah. They're all so tiny. that one i did That one I did on purpose. Oh, okay.
01:17:39
Speaker
Um...
01:17:44
Speaker
ah Yeah, it's a bunch of it's a bunch of the tiniest people made a remake of High School Musical for yeah for Disney+. This is one of our more unhinged episodes. yes I mean, it's what the audience wants. I mean, we had to take like a five minute break and and move locations, so that'll do it.
01:18:09
Speaker
That'll do it. Any other thoughts, feelings? Um, ah oh my god, so many. so many, probably. um he gives the ball to Kelsey, it's adorable.
01:18:20
Speaker
Yeah. A boy takes the takes Kelsey's hat off, and her hair's really Um, uh,
01:18:28
Speaker
the I don't know. I've got a lot of notes I i missed. um Ryan can't read, which is a weird joke. I mean, and this is before the leos the Leah Michelle controversy. yes There's a joke that Ryan can't read, which seems a little cruel, but whatever.
01:18:45
Speaker
because the basketball team on the day of the callbacks and all the things, the basketball team to prove that everybody is like together, they they're like, hey, drama teacher, we've got a surprise for you. And they run out to the hallway
01:19:00
Speaker
And they have arranged themselves and they're each wearing the letters that spell out Go Drama. Uh-huh. And it says, it says Drama Club, I think.
01:19:11
Speaker
Uh, yeah. Drama Club. And they go, E-R-A-M-A. C-L-U-B. Exclamation point is what Zac Efron has. So good. Exclamation Exclamation point.
01:19:23
Speaker
ah there's There's the balcony scene where he he apologizes to her. That's the the like their romantic thing. They don't kiss in this movie. He kisses her on the cheek. Yeah.
01:19:34
Speaker
They like almost kiss like a thousand times, but they don't kiss. Yes, yes. um And it and should be said that they actually dated in real life. ah Yeah, for a long time. Yeah. Um...
01:19:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's, there's, there's, it's, there's some like lines I wrote down. You ever see Michael Crawford on a cereal box? um
01:19:59
Speaker
I will not allow my Twinkle Town musicale to be made into a farce.
01:20:06
Speaker
Evaporate, tall person. Twinkle Twinkle Town. um ah Very good. um What
Conclusion and Next Movie Introduction
01:20:15
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a delight. Yeah. Charlie surprisingly liked it more than he thought he was going to.
01:20:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Which I was very surprised. I was all ready for him to be like, Emma, why would you make me watch this? And he goes, surprisingly enjoyed it it's infectious like i mean again it's 90 minutes long you know yeah how can you not uh that's high school musical baby that's school baby what are we doing next week uh 90s rom-com we are gonna do the truth about cats and dogs oh nice for a second i thought you were it was just called the truth and i was like i've never heard of that movie the truth about cats and dogs yeah nice yes It's um Uma Thurman, Janine Garofalo, and a man of some kind, I assume. yeah yeah
01:20:59
Speaker
I know. I just remember the girls. Yeah. Well, it's really about them. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Shall we outro? Yeah. All right. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it.
01:21:19
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01:21:30
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01:21:44
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