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Adventureland
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Emma & Katie get real nostalgic in this one, really feeling 22 and the exact kind of pain that comes with making terrible decisions as a young adult. We also talk about The Pitt, 70's and 80's music, the "Anti-Christian Leftist Elite," and more than we wanted to know about Ron Howard's kids.
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Weather Experiences and Relocation
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Oh, we were talking about tornadoes. um Oh, yeah. That's insane. i I don't recall. i remember. i know that it gets, like, stormy in the summer in Chicago. But I do not recall it being, like, tornado season.
00:00:15
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We're not in, like, Kansas. Yeah, but, like, I remember on multiple occasions, like, one time we had to close the store because of tornadoes. And, um...
00:00:28
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I remember, like, Caitlin had come to pick me up, and I ran out of the store, and, like, it was, the wind was blowing stuff through the street. The sky was green. Jesus. Like, I, um, like, had to run for the car, and, like, we had to, we drove and it was super scary.
00:00:43
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Oh, God. I just remember when we moved into our condo, it was like August. um And we moved and it was like this hot muggy day all up until we had like just gotten into our, like sat on our couch and like sat down and like relaxed and then just...
00:01:04
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a ginormous storm came through and i just remember watching it through the um glass doors on our balcony that it just like it looked so beautiful but also i was so worried that we had just moved into this condo and it was gonna immediately shatter yeah yeah um yeah it's bunch of branches down um it has never stopped draining it is cold too it's like been in the 60s all week um i don't know what's going on Yeah.
00:01:30
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Global warming. Almost like, you know, we did something to irrere ever irrevocably like alter the course of the weather systems on this planet. Oh, God. How how how would we have done that? um i don't know. by being Surely it's not our fault.
00:01:43
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Yep. Not us being stupid, dumb idiots.
Podcast Introduction and Host Background
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um Being a stupid, dumb idiot. Uh-huh. Yeah. Famously featured in today's film. That's right, guys. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie...
00:01:59
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both just want to go to grad school at Columbia and their parents all of a sudden have money problems and they can't afford to not only go to Columbia anymore um without their, with on their own, i they can no longer go on their European
Career Challenges and Movie Introduction
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vacation.
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and so you don't get to go to Europe after graduate. Ooh,
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And so for 42 days, like Jesus Christ, forty two days absolutely insane. um But ah they decide that they've got to move back home to Philly and or sorry, Pittsburgh, not Philly, Pittsburgh.
00:02:44
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And they have to get a summer job, but they ah have no work experience. They are majoring in college. fancy English studies and Renaissance other things. Yeah, comparative literature and Renaissance paintings or something stupid. Yeah, something stupid like that. Just like all of their friends are majoring in stupid dumb bullshit. It happens if you go to Oberlin.
00:03:13
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and the only job that will hire them is the local amusement park called adventure lands uh they go on a little life journey that we all can relate to as those that awkward year between college graduation and becoming an adult uh that's right i'm emma and i'm katie and today we are talking about The 2009 coming of age romantic comedy dramedy, Adventureland. Comedy dramedy.
00:03:42
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Written and directed by Greg Mottola, who has such an interesting career. Greg Mottola made this indie movie in the 90s called The Day Trippers, which was a like make that yeah big festival hit. like Everybody loved it. was like really like everybody was waiting for his next movie And then he kind of like didn't do anything for a while. um And he did some like TV and he still does TV.
00:04:11
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And then he made Superbad, which he did not write. oh Because um Seth Rogen and and Evan... Evan... Peters? Goldberg...
00:04:24
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but His writing partner, they wrote super bad, you know, and they were a little more than kids when they wrote it. yeah And they got Greg Mottola to direct it based on the day trippers.
Personal Reflections on 'Adventureland'
00:04:34
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And then he suddenly got, that movie was such a huge success. He was able to do whatever he wanted. And this is the movie that he made after that. Yeah.
00:04:45
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And i was living in New York when this movie came out and my friend Richard had come up to visit me and we went to go see this movie together. And both of us like just really fell in love with it. It's this like indie sleaze nostalgia for the um borrowed nostalgia for the unremembered eighties as LCD sound system calls it. um yeah yep And like,
00:05:11
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you know i had just graduated from college and was making terrible decisions about relationships. And I really got it. like This is a movie about that asshole you are yeah you think you know everything.
00:05:24
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But really, you don't. You're still exactly technically a big baby. ah Yes. I also i watched it when it came out. I didn't see it in theaters. I watched it maybe like a year later when it was on DVD. um And i just i remember not liking it so much because of jesse eisenberg's character was set so unlikable um but re-watching it i have to say he's not as unlikable as i remember i think i like the feeling i had watching this movie is why i think i didn't like it which is it is so fucking relatable and you
00:06:05
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of such an embarrassing, cringy ass time in your life that it's just like, It's so hard to like, it makes you feel all of those same feelings. It like everybody in their life has made some stupid ass mistakes and done these stupid ass things and worked a shitty job just to make money um because they had to.
00:06:29
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at and you just trauma bond with your coworkers. And also like you, just, I don't know. There was just like so many things about this, like between the house parties and like the stupid relationship choices. And the like jumping to love before like you even get to know a person sort of situations that I was just like, I hate this. It's putting a big microscope to my life and I hate it.
00:06:56
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Yeah, yeah, it really is. It's, um, it's so, uh, it's very real. Like I wrote that several times in my notes. Like this movie is so real. So, um, it's, uh, but I, really I really, really love it. Yeah.
00:07:11
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Yeah. I enjoyed it a lot more than I, think I did originally. Cause like last night I was, I was huffing and puffing at work and i was just like, Oh, I have to watch this movie that I remember. I'm not liking for the podcast and everyone. Well, I've never had to do that before. but and everyone everyone was just like what movie emma what movie and i was just like oh it's adventure land and my boss's husband who's also my boss steve um this is a shout out to steve richie uh or ratchie and he he chirps up and he goes adventure land and i was like oh do you love it And he just like, well, here's a fun fact. So this is going to bring us into the earliest of all Emma's fun facts, Emma's fun facts. Adventureland, this movie is, while it takes place in ah Pittsburgh, it actually is about the ah director, because he also wrote it, right?
00:08:10
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The writer and director's hometown. This is an actual job that he had in his youth of working at the actual Adventureland, which is in Long Island, which is but but Steve Ratchie's hometown. So Steve Ratchie grew up going to this Adventureland. And he was like, this is about the Adventureland that I grew up going to.
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um and he was And so he got all excited and i was like, oh, well, you'll be my fun fact on the pod. And he goes, wait, actually, let me just double check that before you do that. And i was like, no, don't worry. We don't do any research on this podcast. We don't do that. This is not a research podcast. Yeah. yeah But he double checked it and he was like, no, it is. It is. It's in Farmingdale, New York in Long Island. And I was just like, oh, Steve, is there going little baby Steve? Because for some reason, I thought it took place in 2007. I was like, is there going to be little baby Steve's all over the place in the background? And then I watched it. I was like, oh, it's the 80s.
00:09:01
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Oh, yeah maybe there's not a baby Steve. I don't know. I mean, maybe Greg Mottola was working the games thing when he was a little kid. you know Maybe. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, so Steve Ratchy grew up going to ah this adventure land. So yeah there you go. um yeah so this movie takes place in 1987.
00:09:25
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And it starts, and also the this is a Blacklist script um as well. Oh, And it was one of those things where he got the... the ah Hollywood capital to make this movie after Superbad made you know 400 million dollars or whatever yeah um it's yeah it's very autobiographical um it takes place in 1987 and the soundtrack is ah lit oh my god it's so lit it's one banger after another Charlie was so in love every single song he was singing he was just like yes that's that's so and so that's so and so
00:10:03
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It starts with Bastards of Young by The Replacements. um ah And very very much puts you in a ah in a mood. Yeah. um We meet this weirdo, James.
00:10:14
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um And his girlfriend breaks up with them. yeah And he is this like... you know, little nerdy, love bombing poet guy. He's obnoxious guy that's just like, I love love. I'm in love with love. But in reality, he just wants to get laid and he says that all the time.
00:10:39
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He's a virgin. Yeah. um And he tells people about it. um All the time. And like really puts people off. Yep. Yep. Because he just hasn't found the right person.
00:10:52
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He's like, I know you guys like ti sex, but I guess I'm different. Like he's that guy. He sucks so much. He's not like the other boys. Yes. Yes. He's worse.
00:11:04
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Yeah. It's just, he is worse. He sucks so bad. um But you know, part of this movie is like, you know, if you're 22 and like things have always gone your way, like there's no reason for you not to suck. Exactly. Nobody's ever told you no.
00:11:19
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Yeah. You need something shitty to happen to you to to not to stop sucking. And that's what this movie is about. Like his parents let him major in comparative literature and Renaissance paintings or whatever.
00:11:35
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Yeah. Yeah. He's friends with Michael Ziegen, who is so the only person in this movie who's worse than him. yep Mr. your Maisel himself. Mr. Maisel, who's a baby. Maisel. Yeah, I mean, I guess he's probably in his 20s, but man, he looks like he's 15.
00:11:51
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Yeah. um Smoking joints. Yeah. And right in front of his parents. He's like oh, they're clueless. Nobody pays attention. Yep. He's so right. Yeah. He is they supposed he supposed to go to Europe with Michael Ziegen for 42 days and his parents, who are played by Jack Gilpin, Betty Gilpin's dad, and Wendy Malick, tell him, well, your dad got transferred to a new department and now he doesn't make any money and we can't afford to give you all this money for your trip. He's like, but you can still help with rent next year, right? and they're like, no, stupid. No, we can't afford to do any of that.
00:12:28
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You have to get a summer job. And he's like, but I don't, I don't know. How do I, how do I work? How does work? Work does what? His parents never made him get a summer, and he never made him get a job in like high school or anything. it's great He's graduated college, not high school. yeah He's yeah going to graduate school at Columbia in the fall. For journalism. For journalism, yes.
00:12:53
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But, like, this does happen. It happens a lot. Oh, yeah. I feel like if it happened it happened with my brother. um it happened, i mean, like, he was a lifeguard, but not really, that wasn't really a job. And so he had, like, no, like, job experience. um it happened charlie was telling me afterwards he was just like when he graduated from college art from sorry university um and he was like going to pubs and giving his resumes he was like it was so real because like i went in and they were like what job experience do you have and he was just like well i i did a paper route they paper routes in england yeah
00:13:31
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Oh, but they probably call it something stupid, right? Probably. They probably call it like, yeah. I don't know. the The dispatch route or something. dispatch. The Paddington's Play Park.
00:13:43
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What? I don't know. I was trying to think of something, but then I got stuck with b And i was like, what is is a route? A synonym for route? That's P. P.
00:13:56
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Um, yeah, I don't know. Um, it's not that. It's not that. but It's like, yeah, I mean, it's very much like ah like a rich kid thing, like yeah that your parents didn't make you get a job. Like I had to, I got a job. I worked at a children's shoe store in high school and then I waited tables and I worked at here's the thing. It's a, uh, well, actually you're the exception, I guess. I was going to say it is a baby of the family thing to not have a job.
00:14:25
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Um, or maybe, I don't know, the firstborn not have a job because for some reason, the middle child always had a fucking job. Well, you, you have a, you have a work ethic, um, that I don't know is shared by your siblings just based on stories you've told me. Yeah. And some of that's from working all the fucking time.
00:14:48
Speaker
but I worked from age 16 until now. until now Yeah, i mean, when i was when I was in college, I didn't have a job because i couldn't I couldn't do it. Like with rehearsal and everything, like there was no time for me to have a job. I had some i had jobs in the summers at college, but not during school, which yeah a lot of my friends did.
00:15:09
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I'm trying to think if there was anybody. There must have been somebody in the theater department who had an actual job, but I can't think of anybody off the top of my head. Like it was just impossible. Like I did some- um everything I did, ah me and and several of my friends did work studies at school. Yeah. um yeah I did work study thing my senior year where you would um do like lights and sound for the one acts and the 10 minute plays and stuff.
00:15:36
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I wasn't very good at it, but it paid. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my friend my friend Chandler was like the the assistant of the of the department head. like She would like answer phones and do paperwork and stuff like that. and yeah yeah. I TA'd for theater history as an undergrad, and I got paid for that as per work study, yeah.
00:15:57
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There you go. There you Which was great. Katie and I just do- love theater history. Working, all of course Just two working ladies over here. um Yes. so But this guy's never had a job. so Nope. um ah he is They're in Pittsburgh. um Michael Zegan goes off to to Europe without him. He gives him a huge bag of joints. Yep. um And he's like, when you get back, you know we'll move to New York and I'll cover you for a while. you can get a job. like it'll We'll make it work. Don't worry. You're my friend. I love you. We'll we'll figure it out.
00:16:32
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Yeah. because We're going to live the adventure together. His family is rich. Yes, yes. And we get the idea that, like, Jesse Eisenberg's family is not, is not, like, country club rich like them. yeah but But they're definitely, like, they were doing okay and now they're suddenly not. I would say, like, that's closer to, like, how I grew up. Like, my My dad would make a lot of money and then lose his job and have to go do something else. Like yeah he worked, he was like the general manager of car dealerships and it was very volatile. um So he got transferred a lot. We moved, I lived in a different city every grade up until like fifth grade.
00:17:13
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wolf um And like, so yeah, it was very like, and then he would like lose his job and then we would have no money for a while. And then we would suddenly have a ton of money and then like no money. So it was very um like that. But again, never country club rich, never private school rich.
00:17:28
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Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we did okay. mike My dad was like, you know, we had money to where my dad could buy a DVD player the second yeah was released, but not like, you know, not BMWs and and that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:17:49
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Emma just remained silent. My family went through episodes too. We all know. We all lived through the recession. My dad lost his job several times, but we were fine. Yeah, yeah. yeah because Yes, yes. Because he's really good with money.
00:18:01
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Okay, you sure. Or at least they didn't tell me if they were bad with money. Mm-hmm. um yeah so um ah he has to um they play the velvet underground and he has to then the uh opening credits start and they're very like mournful opening credits because it's also like this sad velvet underground song i mean are there any velvet underground songs that aren't sad um sunday morning
00:18:32
Speaker
I mean, I guess, but that's still pretty like mournful, you know? like That's like, I'm having a coffee while it's raining outside and I'm sitting looking out the window. um ah i guess not. They just were really sad. Do you think because they live in the Chelsea hotel? Maybe. They were also all strung out, which probably didn't help. Yeah, that probably did a lot.
00:18:56
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But yeah, so it's like, it gets you into, the the the credits are great. It like gets you into this mood because it's playing the sad song. Yeah. And it's like, the credits are like somehow like over carnival games and stuff. Yeah.
00:19:09
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So it's this great like mix of like, this thing is supposed to be happy, but somehow it's sad, which is the right tone for this movie. Yeah. um He can't get a job anywhere because he has no experience. Like he's trying to get a job waiting tables or something. And they're like, yeah no, you can't do that.
00:19:26
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his dad is drunk as shit oh his dad's a fucking alfie um which is like it's it's portrayed in a very like sad subtle way because they don't like directly address it you just sort of see him constantly drinking in the background and he finds a bottle of booze in the car that he's just like oh i guess this is my dad's um which you're just like yeah yeah um it's i mean there was it was the it was the recession in the 80s too I guess this is 87 so this was like everything was going great so never mind not for everybody apparently um yeah yeah um
00:20:07
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Oh, and it should be said, guys, it should be said, while this movie takes place in Pittsburgh, um this is 1987 Pittsburgh. So we have not met any of the doctors on the pit yet. theyre But some of them, a children not even a glimmer in their parents' eyes. um Noah Wiley is probably in high school in 1987, I imagine. Yeah, I imagine. I imagine he he hasn't realized his love for um medicine, emergency medicine yet. So I just want to I i know that the the listeners were all thinking it. So I just wanted to let them know oh that in this universe, the pit still exists. It just hasn't exist. It just doesn't exist yet. Yeah. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, with ah yeah. Dr. Robbie and um the the head nurse. What is her name? Oh, oh, my God. Oh, my God.
00:21:02
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Oh, they're they're probably. yeah they're probably in like early high school in the eighty s I don't know how all those people are. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. A little bit younger than Jesse Eisenberg and Kristen Stewart. Yeah. like um Santos and Huckleberry, all of them not even dangerous. Oh, no, they're babies. Yeah, they're. theyre're like I mean, they're babies now, so they're, yeah there were yeah they were, they were sperm.
00:21:24
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Yes. Um, ah we have it. We meet his, his friend Frigo, who like, God. Frigo. knew Everybody had a friend like this. Everybody had a Frigo. Ah, Frigo. Such a dumb fucking idiot, Frigo. He does this thing that boys do, which I've always been mystified by, where they punch each other in the nuts. i ah Why? Why? I don't know. I don't know. Is it to prove that you can?
00:21:48
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I guess it's this thing like, yeah, I had this friend, Brian, who's not as terrible as Frigo, but was definitely like that kind of guy, like just a little bit like, and yeah, he and my my friends like Hunter and Brad would definitely like do that kind of thing. Like it was, I was just mystified. It hurts.
00:22:10
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i Yeah, it must. Don't do it. Don't do it. But Frigo works at Adventureland and he can get James a job there. yeah He goes in and sees Kristen Wiig and Bill Hader are married couple who run the place. And they are they're so fucking funny in this. They're so fucking funny in this. It's so good. like It starts with like they're given the shirt and um Bill Hader is just like and with you accepting this shirt you are and Kristen Wiig goes hired. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:44
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it's so good she has so few lines in this movie but is you definitely remember her like it's oh my god its yeah it's very subtle like when they're gluing the googly eyes on the bananas and she runs out of googly eyes and she's like can i get more googly she's like oh no i ran out so i just have a bunch of these eye patches so i've just been putting them on making pirate bananas yeah pirate bananas um Um, Martin Starr, works at Adventureland, um, who was probably just off of, uh, I guess, no, I guess it had been several years since Freaks and Geeks at this point, because it's 2009. Um,
00:23:25
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uh yeah but he's around he shows up and stuff um this is before silicon valley and after freaks and geeks so um this weird little in between times well he was in all those apatow movies you know he was in like oh yeah um 40 year old virgin and is he in knocked up he probably is don't probably yeah yeah but not like big roles no no no he's just the weird nerd in everything yeah yeah and this is a weird nerd that you just want to give a hug Yeah, yeah. he's He needs some help. um ah
00:23:56
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they're um And they meet Kristen Stewart, who are the works in games. So um he and Martin Starr and Kristen Stewart work in games. Frigo and Lisa P work in rides. And they have the shirts. These, like, yeah ringer shirts that say games, games, games, games. Like, I want one of those shirts. I really want one of those shirts. They look so cool.
00:24:17
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yeah um But, like, it's obviously... you they pick the sensitive boys to work in games oh 100 100 and like the popular kids get to work in rides and yeah yeah totally it's the ah yeah indie loner nerds work in games and the extroverts work in rides and he's like i kind of wanted to work in rides and uh bill hater's like no you're more of a games guy yeah he's like you're a games guy you're a games guy obviously a games guy ah Um, then there's Connell who is played by Ryan Reynolds, yeah who is a huge piece of shit.
00:24:54
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yeah Huge piece of shit. He's a musician and he brings his, um, guitar to work, even though he's a custodian. He's well no, he's, um, he's not a custodian. He's a, um, he's a, like a, an engineer. Yeah. He does the, um, he repairs all the broken rides and games and stuff. Oh, okay.
00:25:13
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Yeah. He's a handyman. Yeah, yeah, for sure. um ah And he is just that, yeah, he's that, like, guy who's, like, a decade older than all the kids and still goes to the kids' parties and yeah is, like, hanging out and, like, everybody thinks he's so cool because he has this, like, persona, but in reality, he's a loser piece of shit. He's a sad piece of shit.
00:25:38
Speaker
Sad, sad, sad. Sad, sad, sad, sad. he's married and miserable and he cheats on his wife with uh you know 22 year old girls every summer it seems which is just like such fucking bullshit so gross um but again very real like yeah everybody knows somebody like that yeah oh yeah um or or did you know at a certain point in their life at least hopefully you no longer know somebody like connell Yeah. um he ah
00:26:10
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He gets scammed on his first day ah with these guys who um who want the big giant ass panda. yeah and And the one rule, never give away a big giant ass panda. You give away a big giant ass panda, basically kiss your job goodbye. Because they do not have many of them left. Christian's like, yeah, we're gonna we don't have too many left. You can't give them out. Yeah. um But this this guy scams and scams them and he has to give him one. Otherwise, he he's got a knife. So Kristen Stewart saves him by giving them the giant ass panda. And and so then they bond and then they become friends. ah the The three of them, mostly. Yeah. um She... ah get Oh, yeah. O'Connell wants jammed with Lou Reed is what everybody's talking about. um Which, again, is one of those things that, like,
00:27:03
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it It surrounds this kind of asshole. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like he he once said hi to the assistant of somebody's assistant and blah, blah, blah. And everyone thinks it's the coolest thing ever.
00:27:17
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Yeah. um She gives him a ride home and plays Husker Du, which means she's cool. Yeah. She's not like the other girls. She's... yeah Kristen Stewart, like, post- in between Twilight movies, Kristen Stewart.
00:27:33
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She's really good in this, too. And, like, I think, you know, I complain about her in Twilight because it's it's not her fault. We know that Twilight is not her or Robert Pattinson's fault. They're both very good actors. Yep.
00:27:44
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um It was the writing. Yes. But she is, she's very good in this. She really has that, like, again, she is, like, it's who she is. She's just this kind of, like,
00:27:56
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blank um like person um yeah but she uses that in movies that she's good in to reflect this kind of deep in this case like anger in other movies you know other things but she is she's miserable too like there's a reason all these people are here Yeah, if exactly. That's what Martin Starr says. I guess I'm guessing your life's all fucked up or else you wouldn't be here.
00:28:18
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Yeah. Yeah. Because like you find out that like her dad's a lawyer. She goes to and NYU. Like she doesn't need to have a summer job. she she She's rich too. yeah Yeah. Yeah. And and Jesse Eisenberg even asked her. He's just like, well why are you working here? And she's just like, ah get me out of the house.
00:28:36
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the doy um which you find out later is a very valid reason um because i would want to get out of that fucking house yeah her mom died two years ago her dad got married last year ye to um this woman he met at temple where he started going again because his wife was dying of cancer um ah And his she's like, yeah, my my my mom lost all her hair in chemo, and then my dad marries a bald woman. Yep. Because she, yeah, her stepmom lost all of her hair from like a nervous breakdown. And so now she has to wear a wig all the time.
00:29:13
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Yes. um And her stepmom sucks, obviously. Her stepmom is very much that thing where it's like, she didn't want a kid. Like, she married this man and she wants that little girl out of the house, gone. Does not want to see her. And yeah is a huge bitch. yeah Yep.
00:29:30
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Yep. um she asked him what he wants to do and he's like well i want to go to journalism i want to be like a travel essayist but like i want to write about real things like charles dickens like wrote about like what we would call travel essays but he went to like prisons and hospitals and she's like uh okay sure dude um he's like why do you have to go to grad school for that and he's like oh well because it's like an old boys club and you gotta like network and blah blah blah which he's not wrong but not wrong You know, it's just like, he's, he's just the worst. of worst Like he wants to be Paul Theroux is how it sounded to me. Who like. He wants to be Louis Theroux.
00:30:08
Speaker
um No, his dad, Paul Theroux. The travel writer. But I mean, yeah, Louis Theroux has the same kind of thing. Like he just does it on television. Whereas Paul Theroux wrote the the books. Yeah. um ah But yeah, like well-respected. um ah like travel writer, which basically just means like you get to travel all all over the world and and write and, you know, get paid for it, which is like, yeah, of course, everybody wants to do that. What are you talking about?
00:30:35
Speaker
Yeah, everyone, everyone wants to do that until you realize how lonely it is. And that is the plot of the people we meet on vacation. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Full circle, baby. She's at NYU undergrad, so she's a little younger than him, it seems. Yeah. um ah i'm not We're not sure how quite how old she is. I think she's 21. I mean, because they don't talk about fake IDs and they go to bars. So, and this is 87. I don't remember when they changed the drinking age. It was sometime in the 80s, but I imagine it was. I think 87 was afterwards.
00:31:09
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um so um she has a party yeah and then they go to a house party at her place yeah she she has a house party because her her dad's out of town and so she has everyone over and she doesn't give a shit if they drink all her parents booze or if they destroy the house and whatnot and um jesse eisenberg's whole thing throughout this entire movie is he's the guy with the weed um and so everyone's just like you got some of that weed and so they're constantly smoking and drinking um which again is a huge part of that awkward time between college and real life you just sort of drink your sorrows away yeah 100 percent
00:31:56
Speaker
Because to like make it through working this shitty ask job. um and And she's just like, hey, do you want to go swimming? i'm not like the other girls. And he's just like, yeah, sure. Okay. to be fair To be fair, she is not quite as pick me as we have described her. That's true. She is more like sad yeah than we've ever.
00:32:22
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then weve she's like please no don't pick me yes yes she's an anti pick me girl yes yes true um but she's bonding with him they're having good time and so they go swimming she takes off her trousers and goes in with her t-shirt she takes off her what her trousers her pants Yeah, her trousers. i thought What are you, Madonna? her trousers. She takes off her trousers. um I can't help it if being married to a Brit has changed some of my vocabulary. You're supposed to change his vocabulary. He's not supposed to change yours. Have you met my husband? He's stubborn as a bag of rocks. This is America.
00:33:06
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Mirka. Mirka. She takes off her pants and leaves her t-shirt on. And she's just like, come on, jump on in. And so he takes off his pants and his shirt and he jumps in and they're like having that like flirty, like sort of time. Oh, big time. where it's like splashy splashy and she gets up and she's just like um you want to go inside you want to drink and he's just he obviously he has a boner and he can't get cool like this is a constant with this guy is he constantly has a boner around kristen stewart yeah so fucking well i mean it's not like it's not like they were just talking like they were flirtily like dunking each other in the yeah it's just like he's so bad at covering up his boners like yes he is he's like i'll i'll come out in a second and then he tries to get out and immediately free ghost season was like boner boner alert boner alert
00:34:06
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And his little tiny white ears. This whole movie is so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. But it's so real. ah It is. um a And then she they talk about her her dad. ah And then everybody leaves the party. And she and Connell calls. And he comes We don't know it's Connell until. We don't know it's him yet. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:29
Speaker
And he comes over and then they sleep together. And I think this is the first time they slept together is the idea. Is it I'm not. Yeah. I got the impression that they've done it before because she goes, what do we only have like five minutes?
00:34:44
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. Maybe. Like I get the impression that, that they've done it before. And I also like. But it hasn't happened, but because it it happened, it started this summer for sure. Because last summer he had a different girl.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah. Part of me was like, was that Kirsten Stewart last summer? But like, no I don't, I don't think that would. No, no. They know who was. A girl went to the snack bar. Yeah.
00:35:07
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Yeah, yeah. I thought it was just, like, ah the girl who- No, i think Lisa P. knows the girl who it was last year. Yeah. Yeah. But, um but like, they've been doing this and off because, like, she she's, like, been- she, like, tries to get him to come to the party. She tries to, like- um she always is, like, around when he's around. And it's- um and then when he comes over that first time, she goes, um- she's like what do we only have like five minutes this time how much time do we have and he's just like don't give me that but you're wasting time yeah because he's cheating on his wife because he's cheating on his fucking wife i think all of us like i mean not that i've ever slept with a married man but i think all of us have been in a position where like there's there's two people that we like right and one of them is probably good for us and one of them is definitely bad for us yep And sometimes you make the wrong choice repeatedly over and over again. And you pick the guy who's bad for you without letting the guy who's good for you know. And then it just creates a whole mess. You know, not saying that, like, I've been asked Julie Shea before.
00:36:18
Speaker
Never. Absolutely not. And then you find out that they find out when you're at your grandparents and then they break up with you. And then you have to walk around the block sad and admit to your mom that you maybe... but didn't really cheat on a guy because you guys weren't really dating. It was like a fling thing, but they didn't all very, it's, it's, there's so, like labels are hard. It's all very like in the air. Like, when did we break up? Did we break up then? Did we break, like, I'm not sure what happened, but you know, this other no it's that, it's that messy time. Like when you go home from college, you don't do relationships. You just sort of like have fun. And some people don't get that memo.
00:36:57
Speaker
It doesn't feel like real life. it Yeah, it doesn't feel. Especially like when you're in college and you're home, like everything has changed. Everybody's different. Everybody is like gone and then suddenly back and you have created a different version of yourself to be in college. Yeah. And people know you as that person. And then suddenly you're this person that you used to be again, somehow, but you're not.
00:37:21
Speaker
And yeah it's, it all feels surreal. And especially after you graduate, before you go off somewhere else and you're like this person, I mean, like they've made movies about it. We've talked about it before. It's The Graduate. ah Yeah. Like the thing about it is like, it is a very like,
00:37:39
Speaker
It's a certain time in your life and people want to make movies about it. I think this movie actually doesn't owe that much to The Graduate as a lot of the other movies we've talked yeah about. I was very worried that when they were in the pool, something was going to happen to allude to The Graduate. And i was very pleased that we didn't go there.
00:37:55
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They avoid that. This movie is is not quite on the, it's not quite like riding the coattails of The Graduate as much as some other movies, despite it being about that time in your life. Like the movie. Yeah.
00:38:07
Speaker
Like B-movie for some fucking reason. i'm a My mom, I think I sent you the text, but it should be said that my mom texted me the week that B-movie came out and she goes, Emma, this is the most deranged movie you guys have ever done on the podcast. Why? yes Why? And I was just like, I don't know. It was your choice.
00:38:31
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It's a fucking B-movie. The people asked for it. um ah And and yeah so she's sleeping with Connell, but also like kind of flirty with yeah James.
00:38:43
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yeah um ah And, you know, everybody makes mistakes. yeah well And you're at that age where you don't think that like your actions have consequences. And you're just literally living vibes to vibes.
00:38:55
Speaker
And she's self-destructive. like She's trying to like hurt herself. like She's putting her hand on the stove because of how... how miserable she is. Yeah. Which is again, something we've all done. So she's pushing James away, even though he's like, even though he's the worst, he's a well really good for her. She's pushing him away with one hand and pulling him close towards her with the other. Like it's kind it's this push and pull where she's like, you know, he, and but a little bit later, he's like, I really like you. And she's like, yeah, I, you know, I like you too, but I, I'm fucked up and I want to do, ti take things slowly. um Which happens in a minute. yeah I'm fucked up.
00:39:31
Speaker
Yeah. Sorry, I just did the Cursed Stewart lip. It's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Thank you. ah Lisa P is back, who is the babe of Oh boy.
00:39:45
Speaker
she's she works in rides and she yeah like she cut the collar out of her her rides shirt and ties it up on the side. And her job seems to be her and this other girl dancing in front of the Music Express rollercoaster. Yep, to Amadeus.
00:40:01
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To attract people. And not always Rock Me Amadeus, but a lot of times Rock Me Amadeus. A lot of times. It just plays over and over, which is one of those things. Rock Me Amadeus. Amadeus. I guess Rock Me Amadeus was the... ah the song of the summer for 1987 i don't know i have no idea but it just keeps playing and then at one point jesse eisenberg is like if i never have to hear this song again yeah i swear to god that's how i am with fucking choosing texas um right now at work like never heard that song ella langley is like it's the number one song in america and it has been for like weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks really
00:40:39
Speaker
It's this garbage country song by this garbage person. ah She like, yeah, she was, she opened for Kid Rock. Like she's that kind of person. Why? Why are we listening to this? Because it's America, Emma. Like, you know who the most, the most successful artist in America is right now, right? The number one artist in America? no, no it's Morgan Wallen. It's Morgan Wallen. and is margan walle It always has been. You really don't know who Morgan Wallen is? No, who is that? He's a racist, allegedly ah racist, like cute huge Trump-supporting country star who has been the biggest star in America for years and years.
00:41:17
Speaker
is it Taylor Swift? Oh my god. Okay, this is a little side side corner. I have to tell you about the mail that i received yesterday. um and it was like in one of those like big thick like envelopes and I was like, what is this? And I thought it was like from my congress people and I was just like, okay, maybe it's like a reminder to vote. And so like I opened it and I read it and um the first, it was just like, the midterm election is coming up and I was like, yeah, okay.
00:41:45
Speaker
yeah, I got to vote. we We all remember the midterm election of 2012. Let's not make that mistake again. Or was it 2014? 2012 was the actual election, not the midterms. 2014. It was long time ago. Fuck that up royally. um And so i was just like, okay. And so then I keep reading and it's just like,
00:42:09
Speaker
The midterm elections are coming up and we really don't need the anti-Christian. Oh yeah. huh Leftist elite to take over the house and Senate. And I was just like, and trash.
00:42:26
Speaker
this is connecticut this is like one of the bluest states there is right they gotta they gotta fire up their base somewhere i mean there's there's these rich people in connecticut who are gonna vote republican and they gotta find them and get a it was on just such fucking bullshit and just it was just like fox news in an essay and i was like who are you fucking trying to trick here I mean, I've gotten text messages that are like, you know, we've got to stop the the Mexicans at the border and like, you know, transgender terrorists are trying to to to poison your children. And like, I get these text messages.
00:43:06
Speaker
And then I respond. Oh, man, what was one? Did you say I am the terrorist? No, no, I responded. It was something, I don't remember what it was, but it was about... um I think it was about Pritzker or something. And um I just responded with ah go fuck yourself. And then yeah the response was, cause I assumed it was a a robot. Right. And the response was, was I'll, I'll remove you from the list.
00:43:34
Speaker
At least someone's reading it. Yeah, I was really, it was great. But yeah, i I get on the, yeah, you get, people sell your information, you get on on lists, they're gonna send you stuff. Absolute fucking bullshit. Sorry, I just had to, I had to spill the tea on that one.
00:43:51
Speaker
Yeah. um He makes her a mixtape of Songs of Misery. course does. Jay's bummer songs. Jay's bummer songs, yeah. um ah They go to ah this bar with this terrible band. um And he's like, I just want to let you know I had my heart broken recently. I'm like, oh, fucking hell, man. Come on. Just stop. Just stop talking right now. Like, why? why i to To quote... um ah um one of my favorite movies like attempt to be cool man yeah like just ah attempt to be cool he is not um he tells everybody who'll listen um but because he thinks he's being a good guy by being like yeah he is like yes i need to air air out some like grievances real fast also i'm a virgin and he says
00:44:43
Speaker
He has this story where he's like, you know, I was with with her and then I kind of, at this point where I realized, like, I don't love this person. And she, that was the night that she wanted to have sex. And he she's like, you didn't you didn't fuck her anyway? And he's like, yeah no.
00:44:56
Speaker
Yeah. scott Which is the thing is, like, it belies the fact that, like, he is good guy, but he's also not a good guy, you know? Like, because nobody's a good guy at 22. Yeah, nobody's a good guy at 22.
00:45:10
Speaker
Everybody's a fucking idiot. Yeah, but he does, yeah, I mean, that is, like, that is that is the the, um, the baseline of what we should expect from men to. Yes.
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah. Right? she like To not fuck you anyway, even if they're gonna break up with you the next day. Yeah, because 85% of the time they do. Yeah, 100%. And then she talks about, like, you know, she slept with people, and he said, do are you, are you in love with any of them? And she's like, hell no.
00:45:38
Speaker
Yeah. Um, And then Connell shows up there with his wife who works at Razzmatazz, the disco. and And then like' there's very telling there's like these very telling moments of misogyny in this movie that reminds you that it's 1987 where she's like, well, no, and now like he didn't want to get married and now he's trapped. i'm like, girl, what are you talking about? Exactly. He's not trapped. He has full autonomy to... to Divorce his wife if he wants to. And and fuck the girls at the Adventureland as much as he wants. Yeah. Exactly. Like, Jesus Christ. But he's not going to do it.
00:46:13
Speaker
Because he's a piece of shit. He is a piece of shit. Yeah. um And Ryan Reynolds is also very good in this movie. very yeah. like And here's the thing. Connell is not a one-dimensional character. We'll get into it in a little bit. But like they really- Everybody in this character All the characters in this movie are written very well And are not Stereotypes at all yeah yeah they're Very realistic characters Three dimensional characters, yeah And ah pale blue eyes playing from his bummer mix as they drive. And he looks up at the bridge and it's like, oh it's perks of being a wallflower. And I can't handle it. yeah Like, yeah, it's so beautiful. Like that drive full of anticipation. Like when you're with somebody and like,
00:46:57
Speaker
um He says, can we go somewhere? and um And they go out to like under the bridge, it looks yeah like by the water. And he just runs up and kisses her and then they start making out and it's just, God, I've been there. one of those movie moments, it's not um it's It is a movie moment, but it's also a real moment. where like Yeah.
00:47:17
Speaker
There's this unspoken. Real movie moment of like your 20s, you know, where like this belongs in a movie. Yeah. There's this like unspoken, like you both know what you're doing. Yeah. And you don't say it out loud, yeah but you're like, can we go somewhere? and like, yeah, we can go somewhere. Yeah. um ah It's just so, it's so painful and real um from that, that time and in your life. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:44
Speaker
Which is painful. And, you know, they're listening to Pale Blue Eyes and i was listening to All My Friends. um But it's the same. yeah It's the same feeling for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:55
Speaker
Yeah. yeah um ah And i Yeah um Then he Talks to Connell He's in such a great mood Because he made out with Kristen Stewart and he just m ah he M Short for Emily um and And just like Life is going great and everything's Amazing And oh yeah he talks to Connell And Connell gives him a beer at work yeah And asks him if he's into M and he's like, he's like, yeah, but like, I got my heart broken recently. And he's like, did you tell her that? And he's like, yeah. He's like, of course you did. He's like, no girl wants to hear about some other girl that you're hung up on. yeah like And he's like, I'm not saying never be vulnerable with a woman, but know when to play that card. And he goes, yeah play that card? yeah um ah Because he's a male manipulator. And Jesse Eisenberg is literally just ignorant of that. He's yeah like, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:48:56
Speaker
He's like, what do you mean? It's funny, baby boy. This moment of like, yeah, again, like this guy is the worst, but he's not the worst, you know? yeah exactly.
00:49:08
Speaker
There's probably a lot of reasons why he's the worst and it's deflecting and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah But this isn't, this isn't Ryan Reynolds movie. So we only into it. Yeah. um ah Connell's like, I want to see you. Can you come to my mom's tonight? Yeah. um ah And um they go to his mom's place and his mom has like, it seems like has dementia. Like he's there at work and his like mom calls him. And so like,
00:49:37
Speaker
he takes care of her and you know he's like again yeah we we do have this like deepening of his character where he's you know we understand maybe some why he's making some of the terrible choices he makes but it doesn't you know forgive the fact that he's a he's an asshole and he's you know a womanizer but there is more to him than just that which is something that a lot of movies wouldn't bother to do Yeah, exactly. They would just write him off as the one dimensional like asshole guy who cheats on his wife.
00:50:08
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And Ryan Reynolds, who I don't like a lot in movies. I mean, there are some exceptions to that. But like my general take on him is that I don't like him. um He's he's very good in this movie. He is that bright mix of like,
00:50:22
Speaker
charming and hot so you understand like why he's able to do that but there's this like gulf underneath him um ah of like this empty person yeah it's it's good yeah He, ah yeah, James is like hanging out with Lisa P, um who, again, in another movie would have been this completely shallow, one dimensional, like slutty character, but she's a little bit more than that. yeah She's, she's Catholic, and she's a virgin. So she's this like, the the slutty virgin, which is definitely a trope um that existed, especially in the South.
00:51:03
Speaker
Oh, God, and especially in the eighty s Oh, i'm sure, yeah. Yeah. And you find out that, like, she's working at Adventureland because she originally wasn't. because She was going to, like, be on the beach all summer and go to Clubster at night. And then you find out that her dad injured himself at work, and so she has to help out. And so that's why she's there. And James' way of, like, bonding with her is constantly asking, like, how's your dad? Like, genuinely, like, how's your dad doing? And um so they get to know each other, and, you know, they sort of develop this friendship of sorts. he's the only person who has bothered to ask about him, you know? yeah And like, he's, her dad's not doing great. Like her dad is like, it seems like maybe has some brain damage or something. Yeah. um And again, this, this character who would have been like one dimensional and something else is like fleshed out and has a lot more to her in this. yeah
00:51:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So that's really nice. Is this when, um, is Oh, when do we go to to Razzmatazz? Soon. First, it's joy Fourth of July.
00:52:08
Speaker
and um he says, this is when he says, i don't really celebrate Fourth of July. I celebrate Bastille Day. And we're someone needs to beat this guy up immediately. Like, Jesus fucking Christ. Can somebody punch this guy until he stops talking? like Yeah. yeah And it's also like, same, bruh.
00:52:25
Speaker
Same. Yeah.
00:52:29
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um they're uh yeah that he's at he's at m's place they're um they're making out and once again to hide he has to hide his boner from her parents her dad his her dad and her stepmom rocking and he stands up like the you know polite gentleman that he is to shake her dad's hand but he has a boner because they were making out so he has He has the throw pillow over his crotch. It's yeah so obvious. And you're just like, ah oh
00:53:02
Speaker
God, can't you just think about basketball? Um, and this is when, um, this is when she kind of tells him about her step-mom and how much she hates her step-mom and everything. Yeah. Um, um,
00:53:17
Speaker
He is hanging out with Connell and satellite of love, which is Lou Reed's most famous song is playing on the radio. And Connell's like, Oh, who is this? This is great. And he's like, it's Lou Reed. You jammed with him. Remember? And he's like, Oh yeah, of course. Like yeah Connell's a fraud. Like he, he's you know, like it's shit two or three years ago, he jammed with, you know, somebody else, know, and now it's, it's Lou Reed because that's who the, the, the indie girls he wants to fuck are into.
00:53:46
Speaker
yeah yeah but like i don't know is lou reed the right mean i guess lou reed is the right person greg mottola was there so i guess he guess he would have been there but like i mean he was so a big deal in like the 60s and 70s i would imagine that i don't know i mean he was a big deal even in the 2000s i mean yeah he he was he's still a big deal but like i just i just want yeah would he be like the right one versus like yeah yeah boy george
00:54:14
Speaker
Probably. i mean, I don't know if that would work on the the girls he's trying to seduce. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah um He tells her that he's in love with Em, which he tells Connell that he's in love with Em because of course he does. Because of course he does.
00:54:29
Speaker
And Connell immediately tells, she goes, you know that guy's in love with you, right? Then she like overhears her parents like arguing about her. And that's when they go to Rasmontez. Yeah. And then, and then they get like ridiculously drunk and um redheaded chick who's been hanging out a lot. Ron Howard's daughter.
00:54:48
Speaker
that's one of Ron Howard's daughters. Paige Howard. Yeah. Paige Howard. Paige, whatever middle name, whatever city she was conceived in Howard. Yeah. Oh, man.
00:54:59
Speaker
Oh, is that how all of them are? Oh, yeah. That's like a thing. Like, it's so weird that he does that. um Bryce Dallas Howard. Yeah. Paige. Wait, hold Paige Carlisle Howard.
00:55:11
Speaker
Oh, in the Carlisle. Like the hotel. The hotel. Must be. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what are the other one's names? um Hold on. I can bring him up. Okay. He has four children.
00:55:27
Speaker
ummen Let's just do this real quick. Let's Google Instead of searching his Wikipedia page, Ron Howard. Yeah, that's going to take forever. Bryce Dallas. Yep.
00:55:39
Speaker
Paige and Jocelyn are twins. um And Reed Cross. It doesn't say their their middle names. um Oh, here we go. Bryce Dallas, the Carlisle Hotel. oh because they're twins, so they were conceived at the same time, obviously. And both their, ni wait, both their middle names are Carlisle. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, that's creepy. That's so creepy.
00:56:00
Speaker
And Reed Cross. Reed was named after the street because according to Ron Howard, Volvo isn't a good middle name. Oh, no!
00:56:12
Speaker
But like, ah how do you know the exact place and time? Can you imagine? I mean, my parents told me where I was conceived. I was conceived in Palm Springs, ah Alabama, or yeah. Oh, not even Palm Springs.
00:56:25
Speaker
Not Palm Springs, California. me no, no is it is it Palm Springs? Is it Hot Springs? It might be Hot Springs, Alabama. not sure. It's one of those places, yeah. Well, my parents didn't tell me where I was conceived, but I'm sure now that I mention it here, my mom will immediately text me. Oh, yeah, we got we need an update. We need an update.
00:56:45
Speaker
yeah Arkansas hot springs Arkansas is where I was conceived yes yes
00:56:53
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yes so update next episode where we find out where Emma was conceived we will find out which will be probably be in like a few episodes because it'll take a while for this one to come out and then my mom will text me she's gone oh right that's true we'll have to wait for this text her and be like mom where was I conceived I didn't, I never, my my my parents offered that information very freely. um Yeah. ah Yeah. And he, and like, he's love bombing her, which is like his go-to move. And she's like, I'm not ready for you to be all intense and weird all the time. Like you need to chill. Yeah.
00:57:26
Speaker
Yeah. Meanwhile, um ah what's his name? Ron Howard's daughter is making out with. Right. At Rasmussen. From Silicon Valley. um Because she's, she's super, super drunk and they're like having such a great time. And the,
00:57:40
Speaker
next day oh because they have this conversation on the dance floor uh or in the bar or wherever the bar next to the dance floor and he's just she's like what is what's your major or what what did you study and he's like russian literature she's like what career path is that and he's just like i don't know hot dog vendor cab driver yeah hashtag truth yeah and um And so then they're drunk and they're making out.
00:58:09
Speaker
And while they're making out in the backseat of the car, Christian Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg are having this moment where she's just like, I just really want to take things slow, you know? Like, yeah I need to stop being so intense. And he's like, yeah, okay.
00:58:22
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Okay. I'll back off. And then the next day, um Martin Starr... goes up to um Ron Howard's daughter and he brings he's brought her a Russian literature novel book thing my Bob and he's just like hey um so I brought this for you to read I mean i don't know if you'd think it's good or anything but I thought you know i had a lot of fun last night and did it ah and she goes yeah
00:58:53
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And then you're like, oh, no. Oh, no. She's like, yeah, so I talked to my brother about that I made out with you. i told my brother that we made out. And he told my parents. And you're like, okay, what's going on here?
00:59:09
Speaker
And she's like, well, you know, like, we're really Catholic. And um you're like, okay, cool. And you're Jewish.
00:59:20
Speaker
So... They didn't like that. So I can't really, we can't, we can't really like see each other or like do a thing. And then he goes, I'm an exist, I'm an atheist. I'm an existential pagan.
00:59:34
Speaker
She's like, I'm sorry. Yeah. And there is this, cause Kristen Stewart's Jewish too. And I, Jesse Eisenberg is probably Jewish. It doesn't really say, but there is also this like Jews versus Catholics kind of thing with the rides and games as well. Like ah it was very weird. which is problematic um but it's never it's it's unspoken obviously but like yeah are they are they are they putting all the jewish kids on games that seems racist as fuck so fucking racist man oh man yeah it's catholic h we don't know about any of the others well i mean that other guy is her brother so he's catholic too yeah the the redheaded guy yeah yeah um
01:00:17
Speaker
And ah so Kristen Stewart finds out about this and like goes and tells her, he's just like, you know, you're not my friend. Like you are like anti-Semitic, like piece of shit. Yeah. yeah And, and then she's like not in the rest of the movie. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, yeah.
01:00:35
Speaker
Bye. She's like, do you hate gay people? Do you support apartheid? And I'm like, base kristen stewart snaps um and lisa p like rejects her her brother the red-headed guy um lisa p rejects um sue ron howard's daughter's brother yeah whatever sue was her name sue was her name and i don't know i don't know his name in front of in front of jesse eisenberg is like james we should go out um and now he's at this point where
01:01:08
Speaker
God, it's so it's so real. Where he is like, a real it cuts to him telling everyone, like Lisa P and I are going to go out. um Don't tell anybody. um ah i haven't told anybody else. Don't tell anybody. But Lisa P and I are going out.
01:01:25
Speaker
And he asks Connell and Connell's like, what about M? Oh no, no. Connell's like, Lisa P, you should do that. And then James is like, what about M? And yeah he's like, are you getting your needs met from M? It's like,
01:01:36
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gross dude gross so gross he's like yeah we're men we have these carnal urges that we have to satisfy ah you know it's part of our dna we can't help it and you're just like oh is this the manosphere ah um and he they go on this date to the velvet touch which is like a fancy restaurant it's a fun restaurant he straight up tells lisa p like listen, can we not tell anybody? Like, I want, there's there's somebody at the, at the, at Adventureland who, like, has a crush on me and I don't want to hurt hurt her. And she's like, oh, is it M? And he's like, yeah. And he, like, how must that feel for her? Like, you go on this date with this guy because you think he's nice and immediately you find out that he's not nice. like I'll tell you it feels, Katie, as someone that's happened to multiple times. It feels shitty.
01:02:29
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Yeah, yeah. It feels shitty. Yeah, and but she's used to it. It's probably not the first time it's happened to her. Probably not the first time it's happened to yeah she's not that She's not the girl that is your girlfriend. She's the girl that you don't fuck, I guess, in this context yeah because she doesn't fuck. the that you go out with to like prove that you can. Yeah, and yeah tell all your friends about. Yeah. yeah yeah um ah And Frigo is followed them there. God, Frigo. Frigo.
01:03:03
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And he's like, he has to God, he's standing outside the window. didn't believe him. He didn't believe him. Yeah. Yeah. And he asks for naked pictures of her. Uh-huh. Yeah.
01:03:16
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And he has to pay him to not tell anyone. Yeah. So M doesn't find out. And like, you know you're doing something bad, dude. Like, if you if you weren't doing something bad, you wouldn't feel want it would be fine if she knew, you know? Exactly. Yeah.
01:03:30
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um But, you know, what he doesn't know is that, you know, she's fucking Ryan Reynolds. So it's not like she's innocent in this either, which I appreciate. um Like, she's not a, she's not a victim. Yeah, everybody sucks.
01:03:44
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Yeah. He, oh God, this is also like so cringe where she's like, you've been hanging out with Connell, right? And he's like, yeah, like I think he's first all, he says working at the park is going character building for him, which is like, oh my God.
01:04:00
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and then he says like your first she just like so how do you like working at the park yeah then i find it's pretty character building yeah he's like i'm gonna make some i'm making some friends and she's like you've been hanging out with connell he's like yeah i think connell's got like a poetic soul ah and then lisa's like yeah he's not a good guy he's got problems uh last year there was a girl from the snack bar that he was cheating on his wife with and she he would fuck her at his in his mom's basement yeah And, like, he is, like, Jesse Eisenberg still feels like he's better than all these people. Like, he feels like he doesn't belong there.
01:04:34
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yeah This is a place that he is going to move through on his way to, you know, being a fancy travel writer or whatever. Yeah. yeah And, you know, he doesn't belong there in the way that these other people do. He thinks that he's better than all of them, especially the women.
01:04:49
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Absolute fucking bullshit. Um, yeah, he He gives money. He gives Frigo money and to to not tell anybody. And Frigo nut shots him again before he comes out. but Of course he does.
01:05:01
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That's what he deserves. Yeah. um this is when he finds ah This is when he finds the liquor in his dad's car. um And he makes out with Lisa p And he gets home and he sees that Emily called.
01:05:17
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um ah and immediately he lies and says he was out with some high school friends instead of yeah where he actually was. Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, we should make some pot cookies. Yeah, and so they do.
01:05:29
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And um they have a really great time at- Just like Heaven plays at the bumper cars. Just like yeah the fucking dream. oh Like, Just Like Heaven is the perfect the perfect song to to soundtrack, like being high at an amusement park for some reason. yeah I don't know why.
01:05:47
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And he's got a, and his whole thing with Working Games is he's in charge of the horse race one. the horse race one. He doesn't do the commentary at first and so Bill Hader's just like, have you ever everyone seen a horse race? This is what gets Kristen Stewart to notice him in the first place at the very beginning. yeah He does this kind of like dry monologue about the horses. it's pretty funny. yeah Yeah, exactly. And so then he's doing it super, super... Oh, because they're eating them in cookies and Bill Hader and Kristen Wiig come over and they're like, oh, yeah are those homemade cookies? Yeah.
01:06:21
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and because originally he was only gonna eat half and they're like oh if you're not gonna finish that and so then they eat all of the cookies because they have to otherwise bill hater and their bosses will know that there's weed in them they're high at work yeah yeah and uh and so then he's like doing his doing his little monologue and he's just like doing it super stoned and bill hater's like hey you feeling all right dude um your eyes are all red are you are you drinking drugs or smoking drugs yeah are you drinking drugs and he's just like no and Kristen Wiig's like your eyes are all red have you been crying he's like maybe
01:06:59
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yeah
01:07:02
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um Bobby uh Bill Hader takes over doing the race and Kristen Wiig's like this is how we met yeah and he's like so into like ah narrating the like horse race game thing um uh It's very cute. um This is when the assholes are at the um the hat toss thing where the hats are glued on so the baseballs won't knock the hats off. And they they realize it. And um he, ah the guy um calls Kristen Stewart. ah Well, she defends Martin Starr because that's like, Martin Starr is like the little puppy that Kristen Stewart cares about.
01:07:43
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Yeah. and he he he tells calls her a a slut and tells her to keep her nose out of it. And um James punches him. Yeah. And then has to run away from this guy and his friends across the across the park. He runs to Bobby's office. And he's like, these guys are going to kill me. And Bill Hader's like, oh, no problem. And he picks up a baseball bat and he goes out and starts screaming, you don't know what I'm capable of.
01:08:12
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scares the guys away immediately like just puts the baseball bat down and like goes right back to like working on paperwork with kristen yeah its it's exactly it's so good so so good um one of my favorite moments in the movie yeah i love bill hater so much he's so great he's great um ah then ah there he's he's out with her and um she says you might be the coolest and cutest guy i ever met um and then they make out and i'm like like dude why are you like this like like why are you doing this just um and joel quit
01:08:53
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And ah so James goes to see him. And um the idea, I think, is that Joel, Martin Starr as Joel, probably had a little bit of a crush on Em because yeah how do you not? She's defending you.
01:09:08
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Yeah. and she She's nice to She's beautiful and she's interesting and she's like, you know, into good music. And like, that's really all you need to be in love with somebody. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I mean, especially when you're.2. Yeah.
01:09:24
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I mean, that's Connell's thing, too. Like, Connell is interesting and beautiful and, in well, pretends to be into into good music. Yeah, exactly.
01:09:37
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And ah so he says, you don't know what you have. Like, you're out chasing Lisa P., yeah just because you can and he's like and of course he goes and tells everybody that he made out with lisa p because that's why he went out with lisa p like and so he could tell people exactly um and he goes and tells kristen stewart and he is like you know which again like the right thing to do yeah um and like he has a breakdown We didn't talk about being exclusive, ah but I'm sorry. And i I don't want to be with her. I want to be with you. And she's like, you don't owe me anything.
01:10:12
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um And like, she's mad, but she's also can't be too mad because she's also been, I mean, cheating on him. Yeah. Really. i mean, it's not like, again, they didn't have a conversation. So cheating is strong, I guess. But like, but like still like she's also been like, hooking up with two people. They're doing the exact same thing. Like there's somebody that they bond emotionally with and there's somebody that they're bonding physically with and that's that's what they're doing.
01:10:40
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yeah Yeah. Yeah, exactly. um And then, um and so she like has like a mini breakdown. She goes home, she makes a drink, she gets into a fight with her step-mom and her dad. And then she runs off to Connell's mom's basement. Hold on. oh Her mom calls her an ungrateful little bitch and she pulls her wig off, which is um perfect. In front of, in front of all of their friends at like a dinner party. Like exactly absolutely incredible.
01:11:06
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good. Yeah. And um so while that's happening, ah James and Frigo finds ah the the parking lot attendant who there's some uncomfortable arslurs in this. The parking lot attendant guy is um mentally disabled. And um Frigo keeps calling him the Arsler, which to be fair, like it was 1987. Yeah, absolutely. That's what he would have said. To be fair, like ah James, like tells him to stop saying it repeatedly in the conversation. So, you know, fair enough.
01:11:41
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um But he saw ah M and Connell having sex in his car in the parking lot. They were doing pushups naked. Yes. Yeah. Um, so they go, Frigo steals his mom's car. So, um, she goes to Connell's mom's house to, she goes to Connell's house and he's like, meet me at my mom's.
01:12:03
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uh she's like i we have to talk like she's trying to break up with him um frigo and james go to the mom's house see her car there and wait for her to come out just so he can shame her which is just so he can shame her which again is such a fucking age 22 thing yes just want you just you're feeling so many feelings that you just you have to spew them at the person um you spew before you think And, um, and she immediately, she quits.
01:12:32
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She quits. Well, she out and they have this conversation where they're like, they're both mad at themselves and like taking it out on each other. And it is, again, it's one of those like just really real conversations. Like it is something that has happened to all of us at some point.
01:12:52
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Um, And um yeah, they're just, they're hurting each other because they can. exactly Yeah. And then she quits and he goes to Lisa P. He goes with, to Razzmatazz with Lisa P. And tells her all about it.
01:13:07
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All about it. Oh, no, wait, she doesn't quit yet. Because he's telling, he's telling. right yes, yes. He tells Lisa P first. So he, because he's like so upset. So he tells Lisa P first. And um he's just like, but like, please don't tell anyone. But she has to tell her BFF Jenna or Lucy or or whatever her name is. Yeah.
Character Challenges and Growth in 'Adventureland'
01:13:25
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and or kelly um and it is kelly actually yeah is it really i was like what's such an 80s name kellyllie it's kell i think is what she called yeah she had to tell her bff kell um and uh so kirsten stewart the next day when she goes to work everybody's like looking at her and talking about her and hushed whispers and like one of the other like um employees goes over to him and he goes was over to her and is like, hey, I play drums.
01:13:51
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I play drums in my like high school um talent show thing we did. Like they played limelight by rush. Yeah. And she's like, cool. And he was like, yeah, you like musicians, don't you?
01:14:03
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like like you'll hook up with new musicians and so then she's just like oh fuck everybody knows and so then she quits that's when she quits um and jesse eisenberg finds out that everybody knows and lisa p did not do what he asked her to do she told everybody and it's created this huge fucking mess and um and that kirsten stewart has quit yeah He goes and tells Lisa P and he's like, everybody's talking about them. And she's like, oh yeah, I had to tell people. And she was like, i feel bad for Connell, but not M. Yeah. Because, and is again, this is one of these 1980s misogyny things where she's like, she's a homewrecker. Guys can't help themselves. And he's like, yeah so what? Guys can be shitty, but women can't? Right? And she's like, yeah.
01:14:52
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Which is just absolute fucking bullshit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's it sucks so bad. Yeah, because Connell is the predator here. Connell sucks. Yes, exactly. sucks Exactly. um yeah he play He goes to the bar and plays Pale Blue Eyes on the jukebox and is driving drunk and hits a tree and wakes up in his parents' driveway with yeah part of the bushes of Frigo's mom hooked under car. Frigo's mom's rhododendrons. Yes. Yeah.
01:15:22
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And he's it's his dad's liquor bottle. Yeah, but he doesn't say anything. Her mom finds and is like, what is this? And yeah he takes the blame for it. Yeah. And um she blames Adventureland. He's like, yeah, I'm never going back there. He had made $1,300 that summer so far working at Adventureland. And she's like, well, to to pay for the car and you're going to pay for Frigo's mom's rhododendrons. Yep.
01:15:46
Speaker
And he's like, well what about New York? She's like, well, you should have thought of that before you did this, dumbass. Yeah. Which is just like, fucking a and then immediately michael zegan calls and is like hey man so i had this like like revelation in europe um like i'm gonna go to harvard business he's like did you even apply for harvard business he goes yeah but my dad pulled no but my dad pulled some strings and now i'm in so i'm not going to new york sorry buddy can't help you yeah and he's just like what god damn it and so his life is all blown up it's all fucking bullshit and he's just like oh
01:16:22
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well, I guess I'm just going to be here forever. um and then is it Frito that gives him the like, go get your life speech? Or is it? No, it's, it's, ah it's, it's it's what Martin's Frito is there. Frito is yeah shooting fireworks at the Viet Cong. Okay. Yeah.
01:16:38
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But um first he's at the park picking up his last check and he overhears Connell like talking to some girls about, you know, jamming with Lou Reed and he calls it shed a light on love. Yeah.
01:16:51
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And you know this is when Like James finally puts it together That like this guy is a complete fraud complete And he goes He goes and tells me because hey have you talked to Em? He's like no I haven't talked to her he's like And again it's like He's the reason, like like, this, and he's, but the he's like, they're still buddies. Yeah. that's such a, like, man thing. Like, it's the it's the woman's fault. It's my wife's fault. It's Em's fault. It's not this guy's fault. Right? And he's just like, yeah, like, so much, like, my wife found out, and it was, like, this whole thing. But, like, its we're, like, working through some shit. Yeah. So, like, he didn't even lose his wife.
01:17:27
Speaker
no like No, no, no. I mean, she probably knew he was fucking, you know, 22-year-olds. And he goes, it's by the way, it's satellite of love, not shed a light on love. And he's like, yeah oh, yeah, of course, of course. And then he like gives him this little grin where he's like, you know you know who I am.
01:17:43
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um it's it's really It's really good. Yeah. yeah And ah then there he's talking to ah Joel um and he's like,
01:17:55
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You know, like, what is the point of being a writer? Like, Herman Melville wrote Moby Dick, one of the greatest novels of all time. And he died penniless. And the when the newspaper misprinted his name in his obituary as Henry Melville.
01:18:09
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yeah And he's like, fuck that, man. Like, he wrote this incredible book. And we all know who he was. So what difference does it make? So like if they call me Henry, like, I'll take it.
01:18:21
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Yeah. yeah Yeah. It's a really beautiful little speech. Yeah, and then he finally gets a nut shot on Frigo. Yeah! And that's that's his signal that he needs to... He just needs to move out of Pittsburgh. He needs to go New York.
01:18:34
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So
Resolution and Podcast Wrap-up
01:18:35
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he goes New Martin Starr drives him to New York. Well, drives him to the bus station. Oh, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he takes the bus because he's from New York now. Yeah, unsatisfied by the replacements, like bookending Bastards of Young from the beginning, um starts playing, and it's pouring down rain in New York, and he finds M... And he's like, yeah, I'm a New Yorker now. And he's like completely soaked and they go up her apartment and she's like, you know, he says, I did things I regret, um but you didn't deserve anything that happened to you. And she's like, I deserve lots of things. Like i yeah I'm a, I'm a real person. Yeah. um And she's like, I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at myself. I'm mad at the stupid of decisions that I made. Yeah. yeah
01:19:18
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So yeah. And he says like, I see you differently than you see yourself. um And you can't avoid everyone you ever screw up with. um ah and Which is like a great like little thing to remember. um And they go up, she gives him a towel and he's just getting out of his wet clothes and then they start making out and he's like, are we doing this? And he she's like, yeah, I think so. And then just cuts to black and that's the credits. And that's the movie.
01:19:48
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it's it's really sweet i love this movie it's it was a lot better than i remember it and i think a lot of it was tinged by the fact that like i was feeling a lot of those feelings um yeah and it just they're really cringy uncomfortable feelings to feel um charlie really likes this movie um as well and uh and yeah yeah any other thoughts um no i think that's it yeah yeah Well, next week we're going to do something completely different. Okay.
01:20:15
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Because in ah Go Get Your Girl fashion, whenever there is a major streaming network's new rom-com, we have to immediately watch it. Oh, I don't know what this is. ah So we're going to watch Office Romance. Oh, yeah. Starring J-Lo.
01:20:30
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And Brett Goldstein. Yeah, yeah. And I believe Brett Goldstein wrote it as well. Oh, fuck yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Hell yeah. Well, that's what we're going to do. Amazing.
01:20:40
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Hell yeah. Shall we, outro? Let's outro.
01:20:47
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01:21:01
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01:21:20
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Good night. Good night. You pale blue eyes
01:21:33
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Thank you.