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Emma & Katie got back to 1999 to watch Taye Diggs make someone else's wedding all about himself, but he sure looks sexy while doing it. We also talk about cat balls, From (which is apparently a real tv show on a real streaming service called MGM+), Oprah's book club, having sex with twins, cosmos, Lost, and what I learned while editing this is called a sleeve garter.
Are you still doing that podcast?
Yes, still.
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Roland's Surgery and Social Media
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Yeah, for and a new. um So I um thank you so much for asking how Roland's surgery went. Let me tell you. Well, I didn't know Roland had surgery. I know. I didn't tell you. um but i told me I told everybody else he had surgery two days ago. And did you put it on the Internet? Because I didn't see it. I'm sorry. no i didn't put on the internet i'm trying to be like more off the internet because i'm really leaning into and i might get this tattooed on my body because i really need it for my mental health which is comparison is the thief of joy that's true so stop comparing yourself to other people emma yeah instagram is successes don't mean you're failure
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Instagram is really bad. ares so Instagram's whole business model is comparison. like Exactly. Instagram's whole business model is the opposite of that saying. um And I just need to really just fill it with cat videos and, you know, witchy TikToks.
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Promotional
Podcast Promotion Challenges
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material for this podcast. That's what it needs which to be. Yep, which I have not been doing and I have not done in a long time because I got so tired of doing it, which I should just, I need to get back on it and people will be like, whoa, get your girls still doing episodes?
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Yes, still. That's our slogan. Still, yes. Still. Still. We've got more listeners than we've ever Exactly.
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So thank you, listeners. The dozens is now an ironic appellation. It's no longer literally true. It is more than a dozen.
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It's a baker's dozen. Dozens is always correct. That's true. you count it. If we had 3,000 weekly listeners, which we don't, but if we did, that could still be technically dozens of people.
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It could still be technically dozens, um which one day it will be. And we'll be like, whoa. And they'll be like, oh my gosh, Emma, get back on in that Instagram hype and tell us what episodes are out this week, even though I have a podcast app that tells me these things. um And I'll be like, oh my god, of course. Let me post the poster or
Podcast Branding Ideas
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um take hours out of my day to cut a little video from our recording.
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got We got listeners somehow. I don't know where they came from. because They came out of the woodwork. I didn't advertise and neither did you. You know, it's just, it's it's perseverance. It's like, yeah that we're just, we're here.
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Unlike ah sanity in our society, we are constant. A constant lighthouse. Yes. Still. Yes. Still.
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If we ever do t-shirts, we go get your girl. Yes. Still. Still. We're still doing it.
Adopting Roland and His Medical Condition
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so so that yeah Yep. We're still doing uh so roland um my sweet baby roland my little gravy as we call him uh he when we adopted him we adopted him from pause shout out to pause um we would also love you to sponsor us pause you're you're pretty great you're an animal shelter yeah it's a chicago animal shelter they won't sponsor us because they need money because they're a non-profit because they do great work um they're a no-kill shelter in chicago and where we got both of our cats Um, and, uh, when we adopted Roland, he had a little disclaimer in his chart and they were like, oh. oh And then we had to talk to like a, like a vet person, like, or someone higher up that had to like tell us what it all meant. And I was like, oh no, he's dying.
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no, no, he wasn't dying. Um, it was that when they neutered him, they could only find one of his testicles. Um, And ah they did exploratory surgery to find the other one. um But they determined that it was ah either he was only born with one or the other one was just so small that it's just it's somewhere in there.
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And just like rattling around in there. Just like rattling around in there and maybe one day we'll drop. Who knows? And, um you know, things were normal and fine until a couple of years ago. um Mind you this cat is eight years old.
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He is eight years old. he's not ah He is not a young ah chicken anymore. He he is he is a grown ass cat. A prime. a prime. Or is he a senior now? is eight I don't know where it cuts off. Where does prime stop?
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think I think it's like over six is a senior, but they live to be like 20. So that seems insane that you're a senior for like 14 years. It would be that would be weird. Yeah. um But yeah, so he. yeah He started to act, his face started getting real chunky, like a big chunky meathead.
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And he started really loving his brother Thomas in a very non-consensual way. um and I have been yelled at many times by my husband ah when he's been on a work call. And what, Roland has been sexually assaulting his brother and me just yelling, no, that's sexual assault, Roland. That's sexual assault.
Roland's Surgery Outcome and Humor
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You've done it on this podcast where we have to clarify that those are not men that you were speaking to. They cats. They are cats.
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Because they have the names of men. Yes. Yes. Very confusing. um But ah the the day of of me yelling that sexual assault, no means no to my cat, are but behind us.
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We took him to the vet. Theoretically. Theoretically. We took him to the vet and we were like, we think that his other ball may have dropped. We're not sure. um and she looked at him and she was like, yeah, his face is pretty chunky. Looks like, you know, a non-neutered cat. um And then she turned him around. and Their faces because of like testosterone? Because of testosterone, it makes their faces chunky. Like a little meathead.
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Yeah. Yeah. Like that he's been spending too much time at the gym. Wow. Yeah. no Um, And then she turned him around and it took her all of two seconds. She goes up, up.
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Yep. There it is. His
Wedding Chaos and Book Tension
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ball dropped. Interesting. So like, if it was, i don't, I mean, obviously like, if the testicle was just like, as we said, rattling around in there, yep that means it must not have been attached.
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Mm-hmm. Or it was like so tiny that it was like wrapped around like tendons. But couldn't they just like pull on the like vas deferens until the testicle came with it? Because it has to be, if if he's getting testosterone into his system, the testicle has to be attached to something or else it wouldn't work, right?
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i don't know. Not to criticize the vets. I'm sure it's a much more complex thing than pulling on the vest. Yeah, I'm sure that they didn't want to pull on this teeny tiny little baby. This teeny tiny kitten's like insides. um I'm sure they didn't want to do that. So, um but long story short, but then it it didn't drop. So we just assumed that he he only had one ball because he was like around six, I think, whenever it finally dropped. Right. And when he started acting that way. Midlife crisis.
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I know. Right. He bought a little tiny kitty Corvette. I know. And started telling Thomas that he was going to, you know, start looking at younger models. um Are they wait? Are they romantically involved?
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No, that was the implication. Well, you know that song, I Want to Know If My Cats Are Gay or If They're Really Brothers? I don't know that song. I'm pretty sure one of them is gay and one of them thinks that they're brothers. And it's a little white lotus-y for... Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. It's a little flowers in the attic-y. ah Yeah. I mean, they are adopted brothers. They're not literally brothers, right? They're not literally brothers, no. Right, right, right. See, my dogs were literally brothers. yes Oh, yeah. No, there's no incest going in here. It's just the fact that it shouldn't be happening.
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But ah he finally went in for his little neuter surgery. um And he was a little champ. And he's doing great. and He's on some pain pills. He's back to his normal self.
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Humping 75% less. well that's good
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You can't expect it to stop completely. Exactly, exactly. I mean, he still has urges. Yeah. I'm not going to castrise my cat. Wait, is that a word? I'm not going to.
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I don't know. What are you trying to say? Castrise? That's not, I don't think that's a word. What are you what are you trying? are you saying castrate? Because you did. you literally castrated him.
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Oh, damn it. It just means removing the testicles. so sorry roland but it's for the best there doesn't need to well i think there should be more of you but i don't think the world's ready for more of you
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um
Reflections on Perseverance and Humor
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uh humping everything that moves famously featured famously featured in today's film i was a castration famously featured in today's film ah That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie um ah are both meeting up with their friend.
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Neither of us is going to be the main character in this. Are both meeting up with their friend who's coming in from Chicago. and he's decided that he's going to write a book. Well, he's already written a book and it was ah it is loosely based on our friendships in college, but like it's not directly influenced wink, wink, nudge, nudge. And it's one of our wedding weekends and we're getting married to the person of our dreams.
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And Things go awry. kind of sucks. And things go
Pop Culture and Film Discussions
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awry. And friendships happen. and There's laughs. There's tears. There's punches being thrown. More punches than you'd think.
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I want to say Oscar winners running around. Did Regina Hall win an Oscar? She has not been nominated, unfortunately, I don't believe. Although she should have won for um one of my favorite movies of the last 10 years, um Support the Girls. ah And I think that you what an there was talk she was going to get nominated this year for um One Battle After Another, but she didn't get nominated.
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Maybe that's what I was thinking, because she should have got, she absolutely 1000% should have gotten nominated for that. um Because she was... She was my favorite part in that movie. She's she's a great actor. We love Regina Hall. We love Regina Hall. We love to see it.
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ah Hollywood actress Regina Hall is there um for a blink of an eye. and first credited ah It's her first screen credit. yeah I thought that might be the case. um But she's fabulous. She's great. We love to see it. ah you know hall And yeah, things happen. Miscommunications happen.
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um Our friend makes a lot of really stupid choices and then ruins our wedding. Ruins our wedding in more ways than one, which I will lay out for you throughout this podcast.
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ah Could have been could be called the worst man. Am I right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. ah That's right, guys. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie, and we were talking about the movie The Best Man from 1999. Yeah.
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Written and directed by Malcolm D. Lee, who did this. He did two the two sequels to this, and he did Undercover Brother, which is a bit of a ah guilty pleasure of mine. Have you seen Undercover Brother?
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Pretty good. brother It's pretty good. Okay. um He also directed a Girls Trip, which was a big hit a few years ago. yeah Yeah. Also Regina Hall. And ah the Space Jam sequel, which I have not seen, but I hear is really bad. Yeah. Really, really bad. Really bad. Well, it's not really, really bad. It's just, it's like, tell me why we took a less than 90 minute classic that like should never be touched and turned it into a three hour long nonsensical Bullshit.
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It's like IP slop, right? Like it's just like a bunch of random, like everything Warner Brothers owns gets thrown into it from what I understand. Yeah. I mean, the only part is you saw it. You went to the movie theater and saw Space Jam? No, no, no. I didn't go to the movie theater.
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Did you not go? Nick hosted a Space Jam night when it came out on HBO. And so watched, we did it in the correct order, which was we watched the new Space Jam first and we all got real bummed out about it. And then we followed that up with the quick and fun 90 minute. The original Space Jam. Fly like a bird. Nope, that's the wrong. Fly like an Fly like an eagle. There it is.
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ah I was like, that's not Nelly Furtado. And yeah, and then we all left happy and complaining about how they should have never made a sequel to Space Jam because nobody. i think i'm yeah I think I may have been invited to that and had something else going on, if I recall correctly. Well, you didn't miss much.
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Yeah. um Yeah, so this is, um ah ah at this point, a classic like rom-com dramedy. Like I said, they've made they've made two sequels to this. It is Beloved. And partially because of the cast. um The cast is stacked. Stacked. stacked we've got tay diggs uh in as the lead we have neil long morris chestnut terrence howard sanah latham from love and basketball love and basketball which i was like why does she look so familiar and then was like love basketball yeah and uh and regina hall um oh and and my my my love my love
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Oh, Harold Perrineau. Harold Perrineau. Harold Perrineau. The great, wonderful Harold Perrineau, who i was like immediately on my screen as soon as like we got, you know, Love and Basketball and Taye Diggs and then we, any other character, it was Harold Perrineau. And I was just like, oh, fuck.
00:14:58
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Yes. Yeah. I'm here for this. Let me sit down. Mercutio himself. Mercutio himself, the dad from from which is a great show, which my mom deleted. You're the one who loves From. I knew somebody I knew loved From, and it it's you, yeah. It's me. I haven't watched the new season because Donna, love you to death, mom, has
Streaming Services Critique
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decided that she doesn't need every streaming service ever invented. No, she doesn't. Nobody does. And so she doesn't need MGM Plus anymore. MGM Plus. If I watch it. She was paying for MGM Plus. Wait, no, amazon owns Amazon owns MGM. So if it's mdm Plus, it's got to be on um Prime.
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it's It's an add-on. Oh. You have to pay. What's on MGM plus besides from from just from and then some movies and James Bond. That's MGM. Yep. What's on MGM plus from I'm waiting for them to just like be like this show is so good. Let's put it on regular prime, but it's never going to happen.
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Um, yeah, not much. a bunch of movies. yeah um I might have to wait until the entire season's out and then just do like a free trial. we go There's a Robin Hood show. yeah There's Kaley Cuoco and Sam Claffin Vanished original thriller.
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yeah. Yeah. there's is that laura linney there's a show called american classic with kevin klein and laura yeahny yeah all right yeah it's got like three seasons i haven't watched it but it looks great okay is that mary louise parker and something called the institute See, there's a lot of things on MGM+. plus People just don't know it because they have to pay for it.
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there There's a lot of things. I don't know if any of it's worth watching. I mean, From is 1,000% worth watching. I can tell you that they made it tv There's Belgravia from the creators of Downton Abbey. Belgravia's great.
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Is it? Is it great? um I mean, it's been on my list, i actually. I've never watched it. That's about it. that's That's pretty much all that's on there. Yeah.
00:17:10
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Yeah. That guy looks, from what is American classic about? Exiled Broadway star Richard Bean returns to family's small town theater, igniting hopes and chaos in his wake. As old love resurfaces and varied secrets emerge, Richard and the town are transformed power making art. This sounds great. It's also, there's not four seasons of it There's only eight episodes. It's not a British TV show. there's Oh, I thought that there was like five seasons of it. No, 2026. It's brand new. It just came out.
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Oh, maybe it's because it like kept getting pushed as like something for me to watch. Tony Shalhoub is in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's all of them sitting in a movie theater as the poster, right? It's ah it's ah it's a theater theater. It's about theater.
00:17:48
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It's not about movies. Oh, I thought it was about movies. Jessica Hecht, Laura Linney, Lynn Carew. All right. People, go get MGM+. plus MGM+, plus sponsor us so that I can watch the rest of From. Don't get MGM+. plus
00:18:09
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We sarcastically employ ah employ the joke about Peacock being the best streaming network because Peacock is clearly the worst streaming network. But mgm Plus might be actually the worst streaming network.
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don't know. It has from and end of list. Peacock has a Poker Face, which is good, but it's over. yeah but And the Traders. The Traders is pretty big for Peacock. And all of Below Deck.
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Hello. But that's like that's like on TV. It's not a streaming exclusive. um And also, Katie, don't forget, you can only watch one rom-com classic on Peacock.
00:18:47
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What was it? The Bee Movie. If you think that I watched the Bee Movie at normal speed, you are out of your goddamn mind. i paid $3.99 to Apple TV to rent the Bee Movie so I could watch it at one and a half speed because that's worth it.
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Just watch it on Peacock. No, I can't watch it at and a half speed. I need every streaming service to employ one and a half speed. Netflix is the only one that does it. And you can only do it on your iPad or your phone. You can't do it on the TV for whatever That's annoying. Yeah. It is annoying.
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um but luckily i have an ipad it's it's it's fine on an ipad if it was on my phone i probably wouldn't do it but on the ipad it's fine and then if you rent something from and then apple apple tv does it on their regular shows but i don't do it on like regular stuff i just watch it do it on movies that we watch for this show yeah things that i've seen before and things that i don't like like i i watched um i watched uh what's up doc at regular speed for example oh nice So you watched What's Up, Doc, at regular speed, but you refused to watch the classic The Bee Movie at regular speed?
00:19:54
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i if if there if i If I could have comprehended The Bee Movie at two times speed, I would have watched at that. I did have to pause and take notes a lot. but um I mean, it'll do that.
00:20:06
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I'm assuming The Bee Movie is going to be the the breakout hit of this podcast. It's goingnna be whats set it's it's like when Obama on exactly the me the b movie is what's gonna shoot us to the top baby so this is our next episode after the b movie um ah so welcome new listeners i should say if you are you're looking i told i told my friend gia's like hey we're doing the fucking b movie she goes what is it 2012
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The people asked for it. If you're looking for some nostalgia for the memes of the early 2010s, we've done the B movie. We've done the B movie.
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So 22 minutes in, i'm ah the best man. Yep. We've got... Who I honestly think... Just a collection of extremely hot people in this movie. So many hot people. So many hot people. were you going is beautiful. I was going to say, if we were to really decide who in this movie, which character, and I mean, let's be real, actor, is the best man, it's Harold Perrinow.
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It probably is merch. Yeah. um ah He's the best. He takes care of kids. um you know like If I were to be any character in this, would be him.
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Because I can't keep a secret. i um You can't keep a secret? I'm terrible at keeping secrets. I feel like I've told you some secrets. I mean, it depends. I mean, it was way worse when I was in college.
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Because you could just tell anybody. Oh, no. I just love I'm very good at keeping a secret. I mean, I love talking too, but I'm very good at keeping a secret. I used to i know i used to know everybody's secrets. um Less so now because people in their 30s tend to have less secrets than people in college.
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If we're all going to die by nuclear fire, we might as well just tell everybody everything. That's true. um But yeah, I used to i used to be the the keeper of the secrets for sure. Well, notoriously in my friend group, um I was the, I went on a trip to New Orleans with all of my best friends.
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um And after I came back from my year abroad and ah my friend Waldron came out on that trip to every single person except me, except me.
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aha And there were only like four or five people on this trip, Katie. Because he knew you couldn't keep a secret. Because he knew I couldn't keep a secret. Yeah. Yeah.
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I should have put that maid of honor speech at their wedding. At his and my friend Robert's wedding. You should have done that, yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that would have been very embarrassing for him. Yeah, but it was like right after Trump got elected. And so it was just like, and it was in Texas. And so it was like, boy. So we were like trying to really focus on like the emotional. And then my friend Zach was like, let's talk about how fabulous it is. We're all here at a gay wedding.
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yeah
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So, um this movie is about, Taye Diggs is a writer, and he has published his first novel. I don't know how he afforded that house in Chicago before he published his first novel. I guess he's a journalist of some kind. Yeah, i was used say, i probably like a journalist or some sort of- Because he was running the school newspaper. Yeah. Yeah, he probably worked for new for ah a freaking magazine. Those were still things. Probably. Probably, Yeah.
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Um, and he has published his first, or he has not published his first book, but he is about to publish his first book. Oprah wants to pick it for the book club, which is like the thing we find out. It's going to be a big, big deal. Yeah, absolutely huge. That means you're going to be famous. Um, for people that are too young to remember Oprah's book club.
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ah she's still not Does she still do it? She still does it. She does, but it's not like it was in like the 90s and 2000s. She doesn't have a TV show anymore. She doesn't have a TV show. um But it's like if you were to go on BookTok.
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No, I mean, there's nothing that compares. It is it is really like Nothing like Reese Witherspoon's. It is a king-making kind of situation that happened to ah a lot of people in the in the late 90s and early 2000s. And then she kind of took a break from it, and then it came back, and then it went away, and it came back again. But like can take a Jonathan Franzen, Wally Lamb, who wrote White Oleander? Yeah.
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I want to say that like she picked one during her reign where the person ended up being like a terrible human. And so that oh well that was James Fry. Yeah, that was James Fry. And then yeah she like that made her pause for a little bit. I want to say yeah Janet Fitch wrote white oleander who I suppose is less of a, um,
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household name than some of the other writers but I was trying think of a woman like it seems like all of Soper's book club were men but oh well okay um so ah yes and so he's going to be a big star but the book isn't published yet And he is ah living with, it seems. He's not. They're just there're just very serious. she Because she says that she came over to use his oven because her was was broken.
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Right. she's She's at his house when he gets home. And she is a great girlfriend. She is a great girlfriend. It's Sonal Aetham from Love and Basketball. We love her. i love her.
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This is before love this the year before Love and Basketball. Oh! Oh! um And she's a caterer. And we find out that he is going to New York for the weekend to hang out with his friends for his one of his best friend's weddings. But she's not coming, not until Sunday.
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um And he ah she mentions at first that the book is kind of about all of his friends, which is like yes such a rookie mistake, man. Such a rookie mistake.
00:26:16
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You can't do that shit, dude. Like you have to disguise it a little bit better. you can't like, it's always going to cause drama. There's multiple movies and plays about this. Like this is not the first time this, this plot has been used, but it is. But you know what?
00:26:32
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You know what, Katie? It's because sad little fuck boys want everyone to care about their problems and see things from their point of view and tell their stories. And they don't care whose feelings get trampled even if they are the beautiful tay digs he really doesn't like the thing he says over and over is like they weren't supposed to read this until after the wedding i'm like well they were still gonna read it so you really don't care about their feelings you just didn't want to be involved you didn't want to be there when it happened you weren't gonna like tell them anything you were just gonna let them read this after they were already married and then let your best friend fly off the handle and maybe divorce the love of his life like what is wrong with you crazy
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um he hasn't thought any of this through. It's very accurate characterization of like selfish male writer. Like the person who is like, you know, only like pulls from his own life and like writes about like, you know, the the complexity of the, you know, the human late 20s male and his relationships. Yeah, it's very like... If this character...
00:27:36
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If this character were white, he would be obsessed with The Graduate. Yeah. Yeah. He would be obsessed The Graduate. As many, as many, many male characters in rom-coms and direct people who write in direct rom-coms are, as we've learned in the run of this podcast. Exactly. Including Jerry Springfield. Jerry Seinfeld.
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Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. jerry I'm sure Jerry Springfield. Combine Jerry Springer and Jerry Seinfeld into one person.
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um I'm sure Jerry Springfield, whoever that is, is also obsessed with The Graduate. He's also obsessed with The Graduate. um But, like, um I'm giving Taye Diggs a little bit more credit here because he doesn't mention it once as his character, that he's obsessed with The Graduate.
00:28:26
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Correct, correct, yes. At first thought this movie was going to take place in Chicago, so I was disappointed they got a plane and went York. Same! I was very disappointed. And I was confused because I didn't really notice the, there's not really a shot of him on the plane. There's just a shot of him getting driven to the airport and then him getting picked up from the airport. And so in my mind, he just was always in a car.
00:28:48
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Yeah. And so for the longest time, I thought it was Chicago. And like, there's one moment when he's dropping, he's like dropping off his friend like Riverside and something. And I go, cause Charlie and I were like, Oh, cause at the beginning, they obviously shot some of it in Chicago. It looks like we're like, what is it? was Brooklyn. Yeah. then we see the Riverside drive sign. And I was like, ah, those liars.
00:29:07
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Yeah. and then we see the riverside drive sign and i was like ah those liars No, it's, um, it was, uh, yeah, he goes to new York almost immediately. Like the, um, the, the little thing says like now arriving at LaGuardia airport. Like it's, I think I blacked out during that.
00:29:25
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Yeah. Um, so he gets picked up by Harold Perrineau who is merch. His name is yeah Julian. Um, And he's so He's very sweet. He works with like at-risk kids. um And like he says, he has to take a gun away from one of them. um yeah It's kind of a rough job, but he really loves it. But he is under a lot of pressure. He went to law school. He has not passed the bar.
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he's He may not have even taken the bar. We don't know. He has not. um But he he doesn't it doesn't want to be a lawyer. But I think he's under pressure from his parents, and especially his girlfriend, too.
00:30:02
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girlfriend looks fucking worse. Shelby fucking sucks. She sucks so hard. yeah um And so we yeah we meet all these kind of characters. So yeah, so we'll just do that. Yeah, so he is, Shelby is an extremely selfish and vain um woman who would tell, they've been together for a long time and she basically runs his life and he does whatever she says and everybody hates her. yeah he She won't let him hang out with his friends on his one of his best friend's wedding weekends. like She tries to tell him that he he can't go to the bachelor party. And I'm like, what the f- You must have like no self-confidence if you're trying to like control this man's life. or Don't you want alone time?
00:30:48
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She's in both sequels, so I'm curious to see what happens with her character. because i mean, the way they were getting at it, I'm pretty sure she gets and marries Terrence Howard. Well, yeah, but i'm I'm interested to see how that plays out is what I'm saying. Oh, I think they're they're a better match for each other because Terrence Howard's character is also the fucking worst. That's true.
00:31:07
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ah ah So yeah, those so then there's us. We meet them and we meet Jordan, who is Nia Long, who is the woman... who the character of Kendall in his book is based on it everyone's like well Jackson's in love with Kendall like that's what happens in the book it's about like it's this fantasy of him getting back together with the girl who got away it seems is the plot of the book and everyone thinks that all these characters are based on these people and he's like no no they're not based on those people but they are they're one-to-one based on these people Yeah, yeah. And he like includes so many things like about them personally to where it's just like you can't deny it anymore. Like you're being such a dumb dumb.
00:31:49
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Yeah, yeah. um And they are, um everyone is a little offended at how they're they're portrayed, but no one is actually really mad at him. um ah Until we get to the thing that does. Yep. um And everyone's like, what happened with Jordan? And so he, we do a flashback where they were working late at the paper and they're playing as by Stevie wonder. And they start like singing and dancing and then they start making out yeah and the CD starts skipping and the moment is broken and nothing happens. But there's always this like, what if between the two of them? And he's obviously still in love with her. Yep. And it seems like she's in love with him too, because she
00:32:31
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She's a producer slash director of the news because she yeah seems like she is directing. um She's telling what cameras to go to. um And of this pretty big news program. and they're going to have him on and to promote his book. And she's gotten a hold of an ARC, an advanced reader's copy of his book and has passed it around to everybody.
00:32:55
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Yep. Yep. Has given it to everybody. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, if You know, somebody wrote a book and ah you and all your friends were in it and you got a hold of it. you i would. I would pass it away to my friends. would absolutely. Look what they did. Yeah. Right? I absolutely would as well. um Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:15
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um So then we meet Quentin, who is Terrence Howard, who is poor little rich boy. like can't, doesn't want a job. And he like has a thousand hobbies. We meet him and he's playing classical guitar at a bar.
00:33:31
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And then he played and he's playing it like a douchebag. He throws it up backwards and starts playing it over on his shoulder, which I mean, honestly might work on me. Like it's pretty impressive to be fair.
00:33:44
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But it's just like, i mean, at first you're like, wow, that is really impressive. Because we haven't met him yet. And you're like, oh, then he's this like musical genius who, you know, is doing really great. And then, um then we, he like sits down and like has a conversation with Taye Diggs. And you're like, oh. Yeah, he's like, the guitar thing is new. And he's like, yeah, I just thought I'd pick it up. It's like, he's this guy who's like,
00:34:06
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He seems to be hyper competent. He's like good at everything, but he doesn't care about anything. Yeah. And he and he doesn't. yeah And he wants everyone to know how good he is at everything. Yeah. He's he sleeps with a lot of women. um ah Oh, I wanted to say ah what Mert says is you and Jordan are two control freaks who couldn't lose control and get freaky. yeah Yeah. It's like, that's a belabored metaphor. He's like, that's corny. He's like, no, I thought it was pretty good.
00:34:32
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Yeah, I thought that was pretty good too. I thought you were going say, that really speaks to me. And I was like, Katie, did that really speak to you?
00:34:41
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um Yeah, but like, Harper is also like, inserting himself into these people's business he's like why don't you like settle down and get a real job you should do this i set you up with that photography job at the post he's like leave this guy alone like the harper is a meddler um he's also a control freak who yeah is trying to fix all of his friends yeah he's trying to fix all of them and they don't need fixing because they're all adults and and they're all doing better than they they've all their lives together a little bit better than he does honestly yeah yeah maybe not hair maybe not terrence outwards Well, Terrence Howard is, he's he's doing his own thing. Terrence Howard also says, my mama not being around had nothing to do with how I treat these bitches, which is like, yikes. He has a lot of lines like that. He calls women bitches a lot. a lot, which doesn't help like the character anymore. No, no. Well, you're know you're not supposed to. I mean, that's the thing. He's supposed to be the the douchebag in the group. yeah um Although also in the douchebag running is Lance,
00:35:42
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um Who Morris Chestnut, who is a, an NFL player yeah and very famous. Yep. And he's the groom. He is getting married to Mia.
00:35:55
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i The perfect woman. hey Yes. Monica Calhoun is Mia. We shall say Melissa D'Souza is Shelby, which is Harold Perrineau's terrible girlfriend. yeah she she She does see Harper and says, oh, if it isn't Richard wrong, if it isn't Langston snooze, I'm like, damn, Shelby. Like, that's...
00:36:15
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You wrote those down in the car, didn't you? Right? That's pretty good. Shelby, she just wants to call everybody and then just tell her boyfriend what to do all the time. She comes in, she goes, I need you to drive me to Saks because I changed my mind about what I'm wearing to the wedding. Yes.
00:36:30
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And then he has to leave. His friend literally just got into town. He hasn't seen his friend in like forever. And his friend just got into town for this wedding weekend. And Shelby's like, i let's go now.
00:36:40
Speaker
And he's like, yeah but my my friends, I told you, I told you that it was, I was going to have a guy's night. And she goes, what guy's night? No, you're going to come help me now. And I was just like, this girl sucks. She sucks a lot. And um yeah, reminded me, like, I definitely knew, some pet had some close friends who very much had this relationship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:02
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Everybody knew that couple in college. Yeah. And then we go to Lance's horrible mansion, which looks like very 1999, like yeah rich trash. Like it looks like 2001 in there.
00:37:15
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It looks 2001, the movie, not the year. Yeah. It's everything. I mean, it also looks like the year 2001. But like, it's so like you couldn't, if I tried to drink a glass of red wine or eat anything with salsa in that. Yeah.
00:37:32
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Yeah. I would be banned. It is so pristine and white and there's like no, for I mean, it also looks like there's like movie boxes. It looks like he just moved into this mansion. But it's also like, everything's way too brightly. Everything is way too brightly lit. right It's so bright. It's terrible. It's just very much like,
00:37:51
Speaker
rich person with no taste. It's very like Donald Trump, you know, like, I mean, Donald Trump is like gaudy, but the same way it's like, you know, this person has a lot of money, but no taste at all. Just exactly. yeah He was told to get all of these things. Yes. Yes.
00:38:06
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And we meet Mia, who is a sweetheart. And then we get a flashback to college where um Lance is talking about having sex with two sets of twins at the same time. Which which I was like, ykes that sounds problematic. And what twins want to do that?
00:38:25
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Listen, apparently it's a thing. um I guess it's something that happens. i don't know. um You know, it might be like, you know, they don't do anything together, but it's like very close. I don't know. It's weird. But like, that's still weird. I wouldn't want to be in the same room with my sibling while I'm having sex. No, I wouldn't want to be in the same room with anyone. i'm at sex I mean, we definitely like in college, there was definitely some like you know, make out parties, but like nothing like under the clothes, like nothing like once pants came off, it wouldn't, you would leave, you know, like it wasn't. exactly Yeah, exactly. But like, let alone with a sibling. With your twin. I mean, I guess in a so in some ways, like your tweet you're so close with your twin, maybe it's less weird. no No, I don't think that that can't be true. Anybody with a twin, let us know.
00:39:20
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Right? The only twins I know, i can't ask, because they're children. Yeah. They're also boy-girl, aren't they? Yeah, they're also boy-girl. It'd definitely be weirder in that case. Not, not of of course, like, you know, certainly possible, but, yeah. know No, no.
00:39:37
Speaker
But, like, i'm I don't know. Mary-Kate and Ashley, you're obviously listeners here. Can you message us? Send us an email? Yeah, let us know in Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen. And then also, can I get some ah free clothes from the row? Thank you very much. no um Yeah. So, yeah, he's, ah you know, he's very, he's a famous college football player. It doesn't really say where they went to college, um but, you know, it's got to be a big big school because he's, yeah his games are on TV. Yeah.
00:40:07
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It like it's I don't think it's it's like a fictional college because I think they mentioned it at one point when they're in the newspaper a or it's in like one of the newspaper things because I remember reading it and being like that's not a real college. Yeah yeah yeah. um But it is yeah I guess it's probably somewhere in New York. Yeah. I don't know.
00:40:26
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Yeah because they're all in York or like around the tri-state area. Except for Harper, who's in Chicago, yeah. Yeah. Because he had to leave. He had to get out of there. He had to go be his own man. He went to grad school. um So we assume that was somewhere else.
00:40:42
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Probably like Northwestern or University of Chicago. Yeah. Somewhere fancy. Yeah. So we flashback to the paper again, where they're, there he's a sophomore at this point, we see on the paper. And he's bragging about having sex with the two sets of twins. um And then we meet Mia, who works for the paper. Yep. And she's like, oh, I didn't recognize you, Lance. You look bigger on TV.
00:41:06
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And she gives him some advice on how to play football. And she's like, oh you should do this and this. And then she walks away and he's like, well, I'm in love with her, obviously. Yeah. And that's my favorite bit up in this movie is that anytime anyone, like, he's expecting a compliment on his football playing, they just go, yeah, well, you should, you can work on this, this, and this.
00:41:26
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I mean, it only happens twice, but I thought it was a funny callback. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, and I don't know enough about football to, to, to know about that. Yeah. I couldn't even um tell you.
00:41:37
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And then, uh, he tells him that she's a virgin. Um, and, uh, he's like, oh, well now I'm really in love with her, which is gross. Gross. Um, and, uh, and then we, um, we're back in the present and they challenge, um, Jordan challenges,
00:41:58
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ah Harper about why he left his girlfriend at home. Yeah. Cause why, why did you leave your girlfriend at home? yeah For a second, I thought it was because like she had decided that she wasn't going to go because she was like, you should like spend, that I don't want to be like you know a third wheel with you and all of your friends. um Otherwise, I'd just sort of you know be like a fly on the wall and that just doesn't sound fun for me. um But I don't think it's ever actually addressed. And I used that excuse really adamantly when Charlie asked that exact same question. i was like, oh yeah, No, she's so she totally said that she um wasn't going to go because she didn't want to be like a third wheel. But I think I made that up.
00:42:41
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Yeah, I think it definitely was was he was like, oh, I want to spend time with my boys and stuff before you get there. So um but it's quite possible because he's in love with Jordan. Yeah. um Which and everyone's like, dude, we read your book. we know what's going on. the important The people who have not read the book are Lance and Mia. It is important that they have not read the book yet.
00:43:03
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Exactly. um They're in the hotel playing poker. It's in Quentin's family's hotel. Yep. And um there's this really misogynistic talk.
00:43:15
Speaker
Oh my God. i'm Among the four of them. So early 2000s, boys will be boys fodder. Absolutely yeah fucking bullshit.
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah, um there is some like, there's some like, character work in there where they're like, you know, Harper is a serial monogamist, which it's got to be an early use of that term, like, with yeah I didn't realize they were saying that in the ninety s ah It was 1989. There were many instances that I realized that, we yes, we were in a fictive world where Sex and the City existed. um That phrase was one. And then when we are at Duke Back Yeah, but this was the Sex and the City premiere the same year, right? Or was it 98? 98.
00:43:58
Speaker
nae um when jordan is at the bar um and we watched terrence howard be douchebaggedly playing the guitar um she has a cosmo and i was like obviously this is a fictive world where oh yeah yeah yeah maybe in this fictive world sex in the city has a better diversity uh like casting than it in reality oh yeah yeah you know i don't think i've ever had a cosmo emma you've never what i've had vodka cranberry but what is the difference what is what is is it lime juice is it the only difference and and triple sec ah okay
00:44:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's triple sec vodka, lime juice, and cranberry. And it's served in a giant fishbowl martini glass. Or you can do the dot. Vodka Cointreau. It's not just triple sec. It's Cointreau.
00:44:52
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Cranberry juice and lime juice. You can use triple sec. Cointreau's just fancy triple Well, I have all of those things except for cranberry juice right behind me. if you go get cranberry juice, you can make yourself a Cosmo.
00:45:03
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Maybe I will. Yeah. Probably won't. um remember when i was got into cock i got into cocktails in february and abruptly got out of them in march like i haven't used any of haven't used any of this in a long time i love a good cocktail love it again i me too i do yeah um so anyway um we yeah so we have the conversation uh where you know terrence howard just fucks everybody all the time he's yeah constantly moving through it And they talk about Jordan and they they're like, she doesn't need a man. She's too career focused. Like that's part of the problem. it's It's why she got away in the first place and why, you know, it's probably not worth it. And then we learned that Lance has been cheating on Mia for God knows how long.
00:45:51
Speaker
Just their entire relationship. he's just And it's just like her thrown away. He's like, you know, no offense. You cheat on her a lot. Like no offense. What do you mean no offense? Right. Right. And he's like, when we get married, I'm not going to cheat on her anymore. Like that is. Because marriage is going to solve my ways. And everyone's like, that bullshit. But it's it's not treated like bullshit. It's treated like he's telling the truth and he's honorable for doing so. It's really shitty. Maybe it was just Charlie and going, that's bullshit.
00:46:20
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yeah um ah it is like lance is an insane character like i don't i don't i don't like lance i don't get lance um it's i mean there's moments where you're like oh he's really nice and sweet and you know he's so he in love with mia he's a piece of shit in love with mia and then you get to this scene and then you're like what the fuck dude yeah yeah um And he yeah, he, he's like, no, she's a housewife. She's not gonna, she's not gonna do anything but have babies. And, and, and, but then again, it's not challenged later. It's like, oh yeah, that's right.
00:46:56
Speaker
Even though it's like established that she also was at the paper. So like, doesn't she want, and like, um, yeah what's his name? Um, Taye Diggs also like hints at the fact, like maybe she wants to have a career. Maybe she has dreams and goals and then it's never brought up again.
00:47:10
Speaker
And then, well, again, there's two sequels. So who knows? This is when Quentin kind of goes on this little bit where he's poking at Lance, where he's like, well, you know, maybe she cheated on you too. You don't know. You have no idea. You're out all the way you're gone all the time. And then this is when Lance says something that's burned into my brain.
00:47:28
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The pussy curves to my dick, is what he says. that's That's how he knows that she hasn't slept with anyone else, because the pussy curves to my dick.
00:47:42
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um And then he goes, well, you know, she'd be well within her rights to cheat on you. That's karma, baby. And then Lance flips the table and tries to strangle him, which is his go-to move. Like Lance flips over at least three tables in this movie. It's crazy.
00:47:58
Speaker
He tries to strangle people. Let's not forget, um and I'm curious to see if this is addressed in the sequels, um but football is a very, very challenging and ah hard a career to have as a human being.
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, beat up. Rape lot of juggling, and it has been scientifically proven that but but becoming a football player is a direct pipeline to being a serial killer.
00:48:24
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So... there it it's It's happened ah more than a few times, unfortunately. yeah um There is, yeah, I mean, CTE, like, I don't know, I'm sure they didn't have research on this in 1999, at least not that they do now. But um yeah, not to mention the fact just physically hard on you. I mean, like you- yeah it's i'm talking more about the fact that he loses his temper and like the drop of a hat yeah because that that's that's that's a result of cte that's yeah yeah that's what the movie with will smith was about sure didn't see it
00:49:00
Speaker
Neither did But i I just know that there's a scene where they show like a brain like jungling in your skull. Concussion. Yeah. Showing like what happens when you play football. And I was like, Jesus Christ, why do we let people do this?
00:49:15
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Yeah. um This is when Lance tells him he hasn't read the book yet. But he and this is when he said that we have the whole God conversation where he says all their success from comes from God. Harper doesn't want to hear it.
00:49:26
Speaker
because harper doesn't believe in god and lance tells him that jordan is into you you should cheat on your girlfriend with jordan um and we know that he's nervous for lance to read the book we're not 100 sure why although after quentin's monologue we kind of get the idea he's like i didn't think that he he talks to robin and he's like i didn't think they'd take it so literally it's like i that that's on you man like you gotta you gotta to You gotta to obscure these characters a little bit more if you're gonna base some character yeah based them on people, you know? You know, i bet he even used the same college name in the fucking book.
00:50:02
Speaker
Because he's that much of a dum-dum. Yeah. I mean, there's lots of, like, there's lots of books that are like this. I mean, that really are, like, just straight up about people. I mean, Truman Capote's book, was Answered Prayers, is the one? that was the one that published after. I was gonna In Cold Blood.
00:50:21
Speaker
After he died. Well, In Cold Blood is about, is nonfiction, but there's a book and he got everybody furious with him. They made a TV show about it actually. um But he pissed off all of these rich women and they all like came after him. Because he told their secrets. He made an entire series about it. It's like something like this ones or whatever.
00:50:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like all these like famous, rich, old, like, im not old, but like women got suit were who were best friends with Truman Capote all turned on him because he published all their secrets in ah in a thinly veiled novel. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:58
Speaker
Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Like, if you're a writer, be creative.
00:51:06
Speaker
What a concept. It is something that like that happens. you know like I had to write you know a play in 72 hours once. And so, well, multiple this class I took in grad school. we to do it several times. But for one of them, I did. I took two two friends of mine and just made them the characters in the book. It was because it was a shortcut. you know and It was due in three days. I had to do something.
00:51:30
Speaker
But then I didn't publish that play. I didn't have that play performed or anything. And if I did a second draft of it, I would change all of it completely. Yeah. And I bet you, in fact, I know for a fact, Taye Diggs had more than 72 hours to write that his debut novel. I think he did. Yeah. I think he did have more than 72 hours. oh It's just him being an idiot.
00:51:52
Speaker
Yeah. i Speaking of him being an idiot, this is the scene where he's in his boxers and he's on the phone with Robin and Jordan comes in to to take him to do their interview thing. This may be so fucking bad.
00:52:03
Speaker
And she's and Robin's like, I love you. And he won't say I love you because Jordan is listening. Sucks so bad. And then he's also like, I don't know if he weirdly has a boner, but he's like awkwardly holding the towel in front of his boxers, like in like a very awkward way that I didn't think that I didn't think that it was that he had a boner. I think it was just that he was trying to like, it was just like, have her see him in his underwear. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:27
Speaker
And he has to like, well, she's like nice box. So she's like straight up hitting on him. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, I thought you were more of a briefs guy um But then like in that exchange, he goes, oh yeah. um No, my girlfriend got these for me. It was a gift.
00:52:41
Speaker
So you can tell her that your girlfriend bought you boxers, but you can't say I love you in front of her. Yeah, yeah, it's all, it's very weird. They go, presumably they do the the promo. We don't see any of that. It cuts to them walking in Central Park where she talks about how she hasn't had sex in six months. Yeah. um He goes to buy serveware for the wedding. Like, isn't the wedding in two days? Like, what are right are you doing? That's so weird. has not purchased his present.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yeah. um And, ah oh, it's a present. I thought he was buying like stuff for the reception. he's buying a wedding gift. This fancy ass wedding, Katie. The caterers bring all of that.
00:53:21
Speaker
Well, I, you know, it was very early in the morning when I was watching this. It is a fancy ass wedding. And then we do, we talk about the forehead kiss, which yeah is something that we see in the flashback with him and and Jordan, which is where they're dancing and he gives her the forehead kiss and they start making out.
00:53:43
Speaker
And she's like, you know, that forehead kiss is your is your trademark. It's your go-to move. And it's in the book. And that's, they're going to figure it out. I can't believe you put that in the book. yeah And she goes, the forehead kiss is damn near erotic. And like, yeah she's right. Forehead kiss is like A+. Yeah.
00:54:01
Speaker
Because it's like sensual, but it's also caring. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. um ah and she's like you better run when lance reads the book so yeah we kind of find out now what happened is that he slept with mia in college yeah yeah he was is it fair to say in love with mia no i don't think so at all i don't think so at all i think that's one of the main things of this movie and why it's so frustrating for lance to react the way he does because i don't think he was in love with i think they were friends Yeah. and what happened was Lance got caught cheating on her as he had done multiple times. We'd have this flashback to where Lance is talking to Taye Diggs and he's like, I screwed it up. I can't believe this happened. Like you have to help me.
00:54:48
Speaker
And he's like, i want you to pray with me. And he's got him like reading Bible verses while he holds his hand and prays. And he's like, you have to tell her the truth. Just, yeah you know, apologize. Tell her you're sorry. It won't happen again. And of course we know it's going to happen again, but it happens continuously.
00:55:03
Speaker
Yeah. But eventually we find out, you know, even later on is what happened was Mia had decided that she had had enough and she wanted some revenge. And, you know, she's really close with this guy. She trusts him.
00:55:17
Speaker
yeah She's, you know, and she decides to to seduce him. And I don't know why he decided to sleep with her, but he did. And it was like, it's told, and it's written, it's it's taken from the prose in the book, the way it's narrated or it's him.
00:55:32
Speaker
narrating it and it's like you know he comforted her and it's all about this like it's this act of friendship in the book that is very sweet and something that she certainly deserves yeah and lance acts like he he assaulted her you know it is it is the end of the world Insane reaction. It is very misogynist, like, territorial bullshit. Yeah, like, fucking bullshit. Like, I can go around and I can sleep with so many women, but, like, the second I find out that in college, like, a decade ago, yeah my fiancé had sex with one of my friends, it is the end of the world.
00:56:11
Speaker
Yeah. um And... Yeah. um Then there's The Bachelor Party. Oh, The Bachelor Party. Lance hasn't read the book yet. He's still he's reading it. He's partway through, but he hasn't gotten to the end yet.
00:56:24
Speaker
Yeah. And he brings it with him. he Yeah, he's gonna read it. he's He's real into reading it. He's real into reading it just in the bathroom. Everywhere he goes. um Oh yeah, Shelby tells Harold that she does, not Harold. I mean, that is the actor's name. um ah Julian is the character's name. ah Shelby tells him that she doesn't want him to go to the bachelor party. She needs him to be with with her.
00:56:49
Speaker
And finally, this because this is after like the other people, especially Terrence Howard, has been like telling him, you have to like, Break free of this woman like she is a nightmare a nightmare and you are not happy that You should not be in this relationship And he finally tells her, he's like, no, I'm going to go. Okay, I'll see you tomorrow. And, like, she freaks out. And so the four of them are at the bachelor party. There's a lot of random guys at that bachelor party. So many. Like, it was a clown car when they were going into the hotel room. was like, how many people are at this bachelor party? I mean, he's that he and may presumably some of these people are, like, football players, I guess. I mean i assume that his entire team is there. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know how many players are on a football team, but, I mean...
00:57:33
Speaker
There was like 50 dudes. Yeah, there's a lot of dudes. um And it's in the penthouse of Harold Perrineau's family's hotel. And he's got some strippers, although they don't actually strip. um and And one of them has a very um not culturally appropriate costume on, which we'll address right there. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um and And they they dance ah for Lance. And then- yeah Harper and then Julian Yep And Regina Hall is the Is the Candy Candy is the headlining stripper Like they have the opening strippers And then she comes in as the like headliner um And she dances with She gives Harold Perrin a lap dance And he is like instantly falls in love with her Instantly in love Like yeah it takes him like.2 seconds It's very cute Um
00:58:32
Speaker
This is when tey Diggs tries to steal the book back. Yeah. um Because in the bedroom earlier, he sees the book and he puts it in his jacket pocket. And but then when the day when the strippers are dancing with him, he throws his jacket off and Lance sees it. And he's like, why would you try to keep the book from me?
00:58:48
Speaker
yeah and so reads it like he goes to the bathroom and reads the rest of the book um harold perrineau has followed the the strippers out to the the street where he's telling candy he's like i i just let let me let me i want to talk to you some more and she's like i have to keep my my life separate you know yeah um but they get on really well Yeah. um He says... um He quotes some philosopher or something. It's Audre Lorde. um i've i've i've i mean I've skipped so much, actually. What? um No, we didn't. Hold on. I'm
00:59:30
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trying to find... Yeah, he says, if you don't define yourself for yourself, you'll be crushed into other people's fantasies and eaten alive. And then she's like, hey, that's Audre Lorde. And he goes, oh, yeah, I use that with my with the kids that I mentor. And she's like,
00:59:43
Speaker
Okay, I'm in love with you too. Yeah, yeah. It's so cute. And they're talking on the street and yeah just like really, yeah, it's adorable. um Meanwhile, however, Lance finished the book and then attacks Tay Diggs. We forgot. The thing that we forgot is before they go to the bachelor party at the rehearsal dinner, um Jordan tells Harper, I want to sleep with you tonight. It's not even at the rehearsal dinner. It's in the church. It's at the rehearsal. It's at the rehearsal. She's like,
01:00:11
Speaker
i want to so i want to I want to have sex with you. We missed our chance. um And I think that you know maybe this should this should become something. you need we need to do this. What do you say? And he's like, ugh. Yeah. And she's like, I'll be at my place. You can just come. yeah Over. he said And then he's like, OK, I'll come after after the bachelor party. And she goes, don't leave me waiting all night. and he goes, no, I won't.
01:00:32
Speaker
And so at the bachelor party, he's drinking and getting his courage up. And he's about to leave when Lance attacks him. throws him up against several walls like so many absolute shit out of him destroys this hotel room yeah yeah um and uh then we see the the flashback with with him and mia and he almost throws him off the balcony and quentin comes and talks him out of it he's like you don't want to do this this is not you like there is depth to quentin um He does show some responsibility in dealing with the other people's problems, not his own, which is accurate.
01:01:12
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um yeah I think all four of these characters are written really well, even though I find some of them frustrating. Yeah, for sure. And Jordan as well. the the five The five main characters, I think, are all written pretty well. yeah There's a lot of layers to them.
01:01:28
Speaker
yeah for sure yeah they're all complex um and uh and then he says the wedding is off and they get out of there and we cut to jordan in some lingerie yep waiting and poor her te dig beat up tay digs shows up at her door and she goes you're really destroying the groove in here which is right right it's just like oh man And then he sort of have that he tells her everything and she's like, you... And then he goes, you've done enough. And he blames her yeah because she's the one who got the book. And then she slaps him, which deserved. Right there
01:02:04
Speaker
And she goes, you wrote the book, asshole. You're the one who did this to yourself. I've been doing tequila shots. My hormones are raging. I'm emotional and I'm horny. And I don't want to hear about no goddamn peas.
01:02:15
Speaker
Fuck you. Good night is what she says to him. Because they keep saying we're peas in a pod is what so yeah but she's referring to. Yeah. And then he goes to sleep on her couch. Like, I'm pretty sure she told you to get out, motherfucker. What are you doing? Exactly what I said whenever, like, he, like, goes and curls up on her couch. was like, get out.
01:02:32
Speaker
Get out. Leave. Leave! Get out! Leave! Sorry. Yes. Who was that? Get out.
01:02:44
Speaker
Ride out. no dooo You and me. Yeah. two to Some early 2000s nonsense. Get out.
01:02:56
Speaker
Yeah, you look that up. Sanaa Latham. Robin is his girlfriend's name. Jojo. Jojo.
01:03:06
Speaker
he arrives at the airport wearing sunglasses and then he's just like clinging on to her like a baby and she's like what the fuck is wrong with you he takes his sunglasses off and he's like what what happened and then he tells her everything everything and she's like you didn't sleep with her and he's like no but you were going to she's like yeah And she's like, okay, goodbye. And he's like, no, I need your help. I need to get this wedding back on. I need to fix this. I need your help. And she's like, okay, fine. But she's mad big time. Yeah, she's mad big time.
01:03:35
Speaker
Rightfully so. 100% rightfully so. I don't know. Again, for for friends that i they they were not my friends, like if this happened and they were my friends too, I would help him. But if they were strangers, I don't know if I would. I would get back on that plane and go back to Chicago. Yeah, yeah.
01:03:53
Speaker
It's exactly what I would do. 100%. And be like, okay, well, you can stay here forever. and Yeah. um If you you fix the wedding or not, I don't care. i don't care if the guy who cheats on his girlfriend a lot has a happy life.
01:04:04
Speaker
Exactly. I don't know these people, and it doesn't matter to me, and you've been treating me like trash, so goodbye. yeah Yeah. Um, then we go to the church and, ah the boys are there except for Lance and, um Shelby comes up and is like, I forgive you. I know that you wanted to spend time with me. And he's like, you know what?
01:04:24
Speaker
Goodbye. We're breaking up. I am sick of you. Yeah. And cant Candace, uh, Regina Hall, Candy, shows up at the wedding and, um, it's very, he's like, oh, thank you for coming. It's so sweet. It's so sweet. Yeah.
01:04:39
Speaker
I love it. and they're like hey where's lance and we're like i don't know and then he shows up in a cab and he's like oh the wedding's off where i'm just here to tell my parents and then there's this whole bit where they're like all attached onto him like he's got a parodol parano's got got him around the foot and he's dragging him down the aisle they're trying to stop him from canceling the wedding in front of all of the guests in yeah and you're like what the fuck is happening uh Yeah. And um Robin is like, get in there and fix this. Like, do whatever you need to do. Do divine intervention. And he's like, okay. And he goes in and he's like, pray.
01:05:15
Speaker
Pray with me. And that's the one thing that Lance will listen to. And so he goes to talk to him. Meanwhile, Robin, um Mia doesn't know about any of this. And yeah Jordan goes in to tell her and Robin stops her and she's like,
01:05:29
Speaker
there was a slight delay, but he's here now and everything's fine because she's already crying because of like, she's just nervous. yeah we say We think that she knows, but it turns out it was a, yeah, it was just um yeah jitters. Yeah. Yeah. And her best friend was about to make things worse. And yeah so stranger comes in for the rescue.
01:05:47
Speaker
She tells them that it's ah CP time, um ah which do you know what that mean that is? Yeah, i do And I had to explain it to Charles. ah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:58
Speaker
Um, I, I had a ah black friend explain it to me in college one time, so I knew what it was. Um,
01:06:07
Speaker
Google it if you don't know what it is. Um, I'm not, I'm not telling you now. I'm not, I, I'm not the type of person to say it or no to explain it to anybody else. So, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
01:06:19
Speaker
But I know what is. Um, yes. So, um, Harper, I keep forgetting his name is Harper because Harper is a girl's name to me. I know that there are men named Harper, but it's it's hard for me to remember his name. Yeah.
01:06:31
Speaker
Harper is in like the little little church room, i don't know what they're called, um with yeah Lance. And he's like telling him to pray with him. And he he's like getting out the Bible. And he's like, tell me the verse, which is what they did previously, where he would call out a verse and then he would read it. And he tells him to read like Exodus something. And he's like, thou shall not commit adultery. He's like, okay, ironic of you to do that. He doesn't actually say that, but he should. yeah um And he's like, he he talks him into it. He's like, you know, you're staring your ideal woman in the face. You're made for each other. You have to, you can't do this because of this one thing that happens. Yeah. But he treats him like he he flips another table in the church. He's treating him like he's this monster for something that happened 10 years ago that has honestly nothing to do with him.
01:07:16
Speaker
Exactly. Like he refuses to see Mia as a person. But like, he also kind of does because previously he says that, you know, I know that I would deserve it if she cheated on me. And, you know, if she did, i would forgive her. And that is when, because yeah at the one point at rehearsal dinner, Taye Diggs almost tells him, but then he gets interrupted. yeah And then he's like, you said you would forgive her.
01:07:38
Speaker
um And he's like, I do forgive her. And I kind of knew that she must have cheated on me at some point, but who I don't forget is forgive is you. Because I didn't think it would be with you. I thought it would be with some meaningless person, not my best friend. Well,
01:07:54
Speaker
um Too bad. he oh Here's the thing. He probably shouldn't have slept with her, but. Yeah, exactly. you shouldn't have slept with It's still an overreaction. It really is. It was 10 years ago.
01:08:05
Speaker
it is not even a thing. It wasn't even like a they have feelings for each other thing. It was a revenge thing. And like, you're being ridiculous. I think it's the fact that like he envisions her. And I think they talk about it at the, in the poker scene of like the, like, you know, the Madonna and the whore um of like how women are either virginal or, you know,
01:08:30
Speaker
sleeping around a bunch and or objects yeah or they're either they're either the um the ideal woman that you put on a pedestal and marry or they're disposable objects to have sex with yeah yeah um which is part of that problematic conversation and um the he sees her as you know like this virgin perfect betty crocker woman that is just can do no wrong and that idea is shattered And this movie is aware of these things. And i know that it is, it's it's not it's not executed 100% well, but it is executed nice a little. It is, yeah, part of it is this movie is, you know, almost 30 years old.
01:09:15
Speaker
And so it is dealing with a lot of like complex characters and complex like emotions and stuff. And, you know, to be like a rom-com from the 90s, it's surprising how much depth this has.
01:09:27
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, for sure. Because all of these characters have like so many flaws and strengths and everything. And like, it's, yeah.
Emotional Wedding and Drama
01:09:35
Speaker
Yeah. um It's, it's really well, it's really well written and well acted, especially um for the most part.
01:09:41
Speaker
Yeah. And ah then they get married and everything works out. Yeah, and the vows are beautiful. Everybody's crying. um Their vows are just, like, so heartfelt and wonderful. And just, like, him losing it the entire time is just, like, yeah that made me almost forgive him because I was like, that's really sweet, adorable.
01:10:01
Speaker
Well, it's also intercutting him her having sex with Taye Diggs, which is a little... Takes away a little bit from that. Yeah. There were moments that I was like at the beginning when that was like started in the vows. I was so worried he was going to flip off the handle and like call her slut.
01:10:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But then whenever there was 20 minutes left. Yeah. So you never know. You never know. And then, but we got past it and i was like, oh, that's really sweet. Look at how emotional he is. Yeah. They dropped the broom, which is a traditional African-American wedding ceremony. Have you ever been to a wedding where they do that?
01:10:33
Speaker
i actually have not been to a wedding where they dumped the room. I have not either. I explained it to Charlie. Yeah. I don't know. i was aware of it, but I, I've never been to a wedding where they did that. Yeah. um I don't know if it's as popular of a tradition these days. ah Yeah. I think that it's much like like the garter, um it but like it might not be as popular a tradition. Yeah.
01:11:00
Speaker
The garter thing is, like I think people still do the first half of the garter thing, but so they do they they throw the bouquet and yeah fucking Shelby shoves a woman out of the way to grab the bouquet. It's so funny.
01:11:12
Speaker
And then Quentin accidentally catches the garter. But then they do this second tradition, which I've never seen in real life before, where the woman who catches the bouquet sits and the man who caught the garter puts it on her leg, which ye I've seen that in movies before, but I've never seen it in real life. That seems like a very dated story.
01:11:33
Speaker
Tradition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you know, the idea behind it is like, Oh, well now you two get married. Exactly. Yes. And it's, and it, and he hates her and he keeps going, say you like it, say you like it when she's, he's trying to put the garter on her and she's like, stop.
01:11:47
Speaker
Right? you Right? Jesus Christ. Merch and Candy are dancing and then Jordan and Harper are left dancing together and Robin is dancing with Uncle Skeeter. Yep. And then Jordan gives the go get your girl speech to Harper and says Robin is the one. You need to go and get her. um After you've treated her terribly.
01:12:08
Speaker
Which is a bit of a surprise. Like this is one of those movies kind of like Austin Land where it's like you don't really know where it's going. Like it could go either way. I didn't expect it to end that way. um I thought he was going to get together with um with other girl. Like ah his BFF girl, not his jordan actually GF girl.
01:12:28
Speaker
Yeah. I'm not good at character names, Katie. you noticed this entire time, I couldn't remember Tate Diggs' character's name. Nobody can.
01:12:39
Speaker
Um... And ah it she's like, she's the one. And he goes and starts dancing with Robin. And he's like, you got to live in the moment. And he proposes to her right there wedding reception. At somebody else's wedding. Which is crazy. yeah Don't do that. That is terrible. of This man also almost broke up this marriage before it even began. and then. He made this wedding about him so hard. Yeah.
01:13:06
Speaker
This is the ultimate um pick me guy mentality bullshit. What fucking drama queen Harper is. Right? My god I was like, as soon as he started, I was like, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't. oh and everyone's like, oh my God, it's so sweet. I was like, they would not be like that in real life.
01:13:23
Speaker
No, no, no. Like the groom is furious with you still. Like, what are you doing? And now you're taking his reception that he paid for and you are turning this into your proposal. So now everyone's going to stop saying congratulations to the Brian groom and start saying congratulations to you. So um thank you, Harper, for ruining this wedding. did.
01:13:44
Speaker
And then everybody dances like the end of a Shakespeare movie. It's pretty cute. It really cute. Quentin takes his jacket off and he has one of those things. what do you know what these are called? It's like this thing that sometimes guys have in like a tuxedo where it's like an arm a thing around their sleeve.
01:13:59
Speaker
Like it's this band. Do know what that's called? I don't. An arm cummerbund? It's like this old fashioned kind of thing. I think they're very dashing. I don't know why. They are. They're they're from like, they look like, you know, if you were to go to a apothecary in 1904 and the guy was to be like, no what what can I get for you there? it's not.
01:14:23
Speaker
It's like, it's like a guy like who like wears a tuxedo and he takes it off and he's got one of those little things on. It's, it's, I don't know. I think it's kind of sexy. An arm cummerbund.
01:14:35
Speaker
It is a bit of, I think it's maybe where their shirts didn't used to have like one of the seams in it or something. So it's holding the shirt cuff up. but There's only one of them. I've never seen somebody wear two of them. It's always, it always is like one of them.
01:14:49
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. i specialize in um women's bridal wear, not men's, unfortunately. Do y'all do youa rent tuxes out of that place at all? or is it just no No, we used to do tuxes, but then COVID killed that yeah because it was not worth it. but um But yeah, I'm going to call it a cumber arm.
01:15:11
Speaker
Yeah. Next time you go to work, ask ask somebody who, they ask the the owner. Yeah. I'll ask Megan. Yeah. It says, my friend Katie thinks they're hot. My friend Katie thinks they're hot. And so what are they called?
01:15:25
Speaker
And then there's a post-credit scene where Quentin and Shelby wake up in bed together and then it's blackout. It's pretty cute. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the best man. Yeah, then there's there's a a sequel a few, like, ten years later called The Best Man a Holiday, and then ten years after that, there's an eight-episode, I believe it was Netflix miniseries. Yeah. Oh, no, I was like, because I keep on Paramount Plus. Oh, maybe. Okay, yeah. It was on one of those. It was straight to streaming, eight episodes. The entire cast is in it. Yeah.
01:15:54
Speaker
Called The Best Man, The Last Chapter or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. i have not seen either of those. I saw this movie, I guess, and I think I saw it in college on like DVD or
Actor Discussions and Pride Month Plans
01:16:05
Speaker
something. um and But I did not remember a lot of it, so...
01:16:09
Speaker
I had never seen this movie. i was very, i I very much enjoyed it. And I knew that I was from the moment that I saw Harold's, my beloved. yeah Yes.
01:16:19
Speaker
I was like, Oh hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, we love Mercutio in this house. uh we love him we love him so much he's just such a fucking fabulous actor i love him much he really is i think he does a lot of theater too yeah yeah um and he just has a really interesting face like he's got not to mention being um a line the one of the most thankless roles on lost just absolute lost did no favors to poor harold perrineau like It wasn't his fault. It was because they cast a little boy.
01:16:49
Speaker
no like it's such a stupid thing. They cast that little boy as his son, and they're like, okay, well, 40 days is going to pass, but a year is going to pass in how long we're going to shoot it. And then the next year, like he went through puberty, and they're like, well what are they going to do with him? They got to get rid of him. They can't can't make him age like two years in a month and a half. tough Jesus, I've never seen Lost, so I don't know. oh that's crazy. Yeah, he's he's one of the main characters in the first season of Lost, and then because-
01:17:19
Speaker
Like his whole character is that he's got his son with him, but because they had to write the son out of the show, they have to write him out of the show too. so he comes back and forth a few times um and is still one of the major characters, but it's, they never really get, they kind of screw his character up because they had to write his son out of it. It's weird. Yeah.
01:17:38
Speaker
Yeah. That's annoying. That's stupid. Well, he's great on From. Go watch From. Sure. Yeah. yeah ah Go get MGM+. plus nobody should get mgm plus um ah what are we watching next week emma uh next week it is the beginning of you guessed it pride month pride month it's pride month baby pride month um so we are gonna kick it off with a very emma pride month movie which um everybody told me uh and by everybody i mean charles said no can we do a better one oh no
01:18:14
Speaker
We're going to start with Red, White, and Royal Blue. Oh, Red, White, and Royal Blue's good. What's wrong with- Yeah! doesn't like it? He's never seen it. And I think it's the fact that he's just like, I don't want to watch this little like romance between a fake prince and a president's child. Like, why? why He was like, can we do Bottoms?
01:18:36
Speaker
And I was like, Bottoms isn't enough of a rom-com to kick off Pride Month. It's not rom-com at all, yeah. Yeah, was like, bombs could technically be a rom-com. I was like, I don't know. And then was like, what about Red, White, and Burl Blee? He goes, no. And so that's what I chose. Red, White, and Burl Blee is cute. Did you read the book?
01:18:55
Speaker
I read part of it, and I have yet to finish it. But i now watching the sure it'll inspire me to finish it. have you away Have you seen the movie? No, I've never seen the movie. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I watched it when it came out. yeah Yeah, it's one of the movies where I was like, oh, I'll read the book first. And then I started reading the book and then I got distracted and that just never happened. And so I just never watched it because I wanted to read the book first. Yeah, yeah.
01:19:19
Speaker
So we're just, we're going to do it.
Episode Conclusion and Sign-off
01:19:21
Speaker
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01:19:34
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01:19:48
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01:20:01
Speaker
Good night. Good