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Part romcom, part dystopian horror movie, Emma & Katie talk about the 2025 movie Eternity, and find that forever is really long time. Goos Place spoilers abound as Katie gets caught up in a premise that's so existentially terrifying, she can't connect, and there's a lot og math involved as a result. Also lots of talk about the Dick Wolfiverse
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Charlie's Quirky Podcast Presence
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I suppose I could have been recording all of that but I wasn't I mean but yeah but Charlie doesn't want to be on the pod he just wants his voice to be heard through the lens of his wife who apparently slanders his name every chance she gets it's a running bit no yeah his wife and his friend who are just constantly slandering his name um and his country And his country.
00:00:25
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What the audience missed in the green room was Charlie came to say hi to Katie and I made a comment about how, because he always does this. He always does this, Katie. It's so annoying. He will like be on FaceTime with his sister and his mom, but like he'll put the phone down, but like you can't see his face.
00:00:48
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like He won't... like use it to where he's visible so like their faces are visible so like you know you're talking to a person he just puts it down and then like his like torso will be there or like his arm it's just like he's always out of shot and i'm just like that's so annoying yeah that's old man behavior is what that is or like someone who doesn't want to be on facetime like why does he facetime with him at all then why not just call Exactly, exactly. i have no idea.
00:01:18
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I have no idea. ah And he just he does it all the time. one anyways, he did that just now to say hi to Katie. He walked in and stood behind me and all you could see was his torso.
00:01:31
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I don't know if he understands the concept of um cameras. I would be surprised I would be surprised if we didn't understand the concept of cameras in general that would be a stretch I think or you know that someone's not as vain and as us when they don't look at themselves oh he's already sent me something yep what did he say oh he texted me photo of the hawk yeah Oh,
Wildlife and Allergies Discussion
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okay. Yeah. he
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He wanted to tell Katie that he saw a hawk. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's lots of hawks around here. It's nice. And it was very reassuring when we had the snake issue.
00:02:13
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Oh, sure. Yeah. I love a bird. Yep. Love a good bird. Oh, did I also tell- don't want a bird in the house. First of all, think it's cruel. And secondly, it's annoying. Yeah. In that order.
00:02:25
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So you'd never have a pet bird? No, it's cruel. They're meant to fly. oh yeah, because I'm guessing that like that's one of the animals that like you're not allergic to.
00:02:37
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The only thing I'm allergic to at all is a cat. Oh, I thought you were also allergic to dogs. No, everybody thinks that, but no, I'm not allergic to dogs. I've had i had dogs my whole childhood, yeah.
00:02:47
Speaker
Oh, I have a very vivid memory of you saying anything cute and cuddly wants to kill you. No, no, I love cats, but I'm allergic to them so i do complain about that a lot yeah i get that because they're sweet little baby boys yeah girls or whoever you all cats are girls and all dogs are boys that's just science that's science uh in in my reality it's the opposite because my parents dog is a girl okay sure sure sure yeah
00:03:18
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and my cats are obviously as listeners in the pod will know um my rowdy sons rowdy sons yeah we only had one girl dog when i was when i was growing up we had several boy dogs um oh really only one yeah oh uh she died tragically it's best not to get into it and then okay oh god well what a segue actually we didn't have her for very long was the the the reason for the saying that, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh God.
Dark Comedy and Playwriting
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Death famously featured in today's film. Very much so. Yeah. Very much so. I mean, i got a segue using that because that's the most relevant segue I think I've ever had. um I mean, I got over it. It happened like when I was like 12 or 13. I'm okay.
00:04:11
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Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're good. There's just a little, a little hole in your heart where, where the little pupper was.
00:04:21
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Anyways. think excite you more than me. and This is just like... This is just like the monologue or like the character that you wrote in Helvetica that then I played. And I like it was so upsetting to me.
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But like I did, I, I had to do the emotional work of mother and her whole spiel was that she euthanized animals so that no one else would have to.
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sure And that that's that was like sort of her whole thing. And so like I did a lot of, I just graduated from school Steppenwolf, so i was really into, you know, preparation. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah that's yeah. That's some rough research. Yeah. Yeah. I journaled about it bunch.
00:05:06
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Oh, nice. Yeah. I wrote another play um that no one is ever going to produce because it's it's perhaps too sad. um It's a real bummer.
00:05:19
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But one of the things that I had to do was like look like research palliative care for children. And I was in a cafe crying at my laptop like trying to write. And I'm like, what am I doing with my life?
00:05:35
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Right. What is happening? why Oh man, that's rough. Yeah. Maybe someone will produce it and make it worth it.
00:05:46
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i should I should do some rewrites on it. It's a bit it's a bit much. um Yeah. um Dark comedy. Famously featured in today's film.
00:05:59
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there There we go. Honestly, one thing about this is that I can definitely see me writing something like this. This definitely is my kind of um story for sure. Yeah.
00:06:09
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Oh, absolutely. 1000%. I feel like this film was very us. ah and Yeah,
Introduction to 'Go Get Your Girl'
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that's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie conjoined twins die.
00:06:26
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Oh no wait, Emma and Katie's conjoined twins, husband dies, and then they die, and then they're in this sort of like limbo world where you get to pick your own heaven, but the one rule is that you can't ever leave that heaven. it yeah It's a one and done situation. bad bad rule it's a really bad bad rule it's a bad rule i feel like they would have worked that out but uh i digress and then you you get we get to heaven and we discovered that our first husband um what had been there for 65 years waiting for us and so then we are left with the impossible decision of which husband to spend eternity with uh because charlie's actually won't say what jeie said
00:07:19
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Well, no, you have to now.
Overview of 'Eternity' Film Plot
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ah Charlie says said, um well, I just don't understand why she can't just pick both of them. Yeah, that's what I said before I watched this movie in the last episode. Like, por que no los dos? Yeah. They don't even, like, really talk about, like, doing a a threesome. Like...
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right they don't even they don't they don't even entertain it but that's right guys my name's emma and and i'm katie and today we are talking about the 2025 film eternity it is directed david frayne um who now you're gonna say david fincher I was like, what?
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Written by David Frayn and written by Patrick Kunane and David Frayn. Now this is, this was a script by Kunane.
00:08:18
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C-U-N-N-A-N-E. How would you say that? Kunane. Kunane. Pat Cunan, who is not the Irish person in this in the group of the two people. Patrick Cunan is not Irish.
00:08:31
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He's American, and David Frayn is Irish. And he's the and he um rewrote the script from Pat Cunan. Now, Pat Cunan was an Obama speechwriter. And um head of, what is it? He was the Deputy Director of Messaging.
00:08:51
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ah for Obama's second term. Oh, cool. And then he started writing movies. And David Frayn had... um He made a couple of movies, neither which I've seen, both of which sound interesting. One is called... um dating Amber, which is like kids in the 90s, like in a beard relationship, like a gay guy and a gay girl, like pretend to date each other in high school. And the other one is Cured, which is about a cure for a zombie virus ah happens and all these people like return to their like normal lives, but they were zombies and about the trauma of having to deal with it. Both of those movies sound really interesting.
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Those both sound really interesting. Yeah. He's good with the concept. He's good with a concept. Yeah. um Well, he didn't write the concept of this No. Oh, sorry. I don't know. Maybe he didn't write those either. I didn't write that down. And there's no way to look. There's no internet movie database for us to look these things up on. So how could we know?
00:09:51
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how How would we ever know? And yeah, so we start on an old couple, um including Betty Buckley.
00:10:03
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Betty Buckley! Second Betty Buckley, right? Is it? What was Betty Buckley in? We had Betty Buckley in something else. I cannot remember, but I remember but Betty Buckley was in something.
00:10:14
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um Yeah, grizzo griselda grisabella Grisabella herself. yeah Betty Buckley. I I have her. Do I have her on one of these? No, that's Elaine Page. Oh, no, no, I don't have her on one of my posters. But Betty Beckley. has Broadway posters in her office that she's referring to. I do I have not been in one of these shows, but ah I've had them since high school and I love them.
00:10:38
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Yeah. um Yes, so lots of Broadway shows, not just Cats, but she was in many um good Broadway shows aside from Cats. She's a legend.
00:10:49
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Broadway legend. um ah And immediately I'm wrapped around the axle on how old these people are supposed to be. Because Betty Buckley is like 75 years old yeah in real life.
00:11:01
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And they, these two people have been married for 65 years. 65 years. And she was an adult married to somebody else before that. So that means they're probably like in their late 80s, would have to assume. Like, let's say she and Callum Turner got married when they were like 18 and maybe even 17. Yeah.
00:11:22
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yeah And then he, like, they have some time together. He goes to war, he dies, and then she marries him, and then 65 years have passed. So, like, crazy. Well, let's do the backwards math. So, if this is 2025, when was the Korean War?
00:11:37
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but fifty s The 50s. The early 50s? The early 50s.
Humorous Age Calculations in 'Eternity'
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um And so you had to be at least... Oh! Betty Buckley wasn't simply irresistible! Yeah.
00:11:52
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Oh, you're right. She was. Wow. That is a long time ago for our purposes. Yeah. That was like our third episode. Yeah. I know. i love it so much. and She was so much younger then. was so much younger. The movie was 30 years ago.
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Right? Jesus Christ. um ah Yeah. The Korean War was 50 to 53. Okay. So let's say that he goes to war between 1950 and 1953. have to be at least to get drafted, right?
00:12:22
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Yeah, or or to to sign up. It never says if he was drafted or if he signed up. Yeah. Yeah, so you have to be at least 18. So minus is a number. he was born in and we have to assume that like they're all around the same age give or take so If we take, let's say they film this
00:12:59
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they aren' these these a characters are not 93 years old. They're not. So let's say that he was older than her and, um, oh wait. but Yeah, it makes sense. he Could we never see him? because He doesn't live that long, right? Because he gets old when he's like 30. Yeah.
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when he's like thirty yeah
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Well, then if he's 30, then we have to take 1950 minus 30. no, no, no, no. no no what let We don't know he died in 1950. He could have died in 1952 or even 1953. But I'm saying... Well, then we have to take 1953 minus 30.
00:13:33
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Oh, you're right. You're right. Because he's not 18 years old. He's Callum Turner. He's like 30 years old. So he was born in 1923. Yeah. So that makes him 102. 102. So let's say that he was 30 when he went off to war. Let's say they got together.
00:13:51
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And she was 18? And she was 820. Let's split the difference and say 20. That happened a lot. ah Which still means that she's 93 at the end of this. Yes.
00:14:04
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Yes. It's just seemed, it also is one of these things where like this script may have been kicking around for a long time, you know? Like who knows when pat Patrick Kinane wrote this script. Like he could have written it in like 2005. Would have made a big difference with the age times and ages and everything. Oh yeah. I mean, they couldn't say Vietnam.
00:14:26
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yeah it's Yeah, it's odd. Well, I mean, Vietnam is such a totally different thing than Korea. I understand like thematically what they're trying to do with these, like, the 20th century boomer kind of of it all. But, like, the easier thing to do would to be have the present be, like, 2005 or something. But that just gets complicated. like why...
00:14:47
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Let's say just hypothetically they're in really great shape. They're 93 and they're in really great shape. They great grandchildren who are like, you know, preteens. so Yeah, so that makes sense if they're 93. Because my grandma, when she passed, she was 95, I want to say. And she's got great grandchildren, or she she had, well, they're still alive, ah that are like in college now.
00:15:15
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Yeah, yeah. So that tracks. So let's say they're in their 90s. Sure. Yeah, we did math. We spent 10 minutes doing math. Just such great audio. um Such a good thing. you what It's what you want to listen to right at the beginning of an episode of the podcast.
00:15:33
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Two women who are not good at math attempt to do math. Live. So...
00:15:42
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um ah so and So they're in the car. I think Joe has a whole episode about all these podcasts with women doing math. Like who's listening to this shit?
00:15:54
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I mean so many people. So dozens. They are bickering and driving like five miles an hour and everybody's mad at them. They're going to the gender reveal party yeah of ah their grandchildren um who are having another great grandchild. Yes. yeah um And, you know, they've been together for a long time. You mentioned they've been together 65 years. A great grandchild picks up a photo of her on her wedding day and they're like, this isn't this isn't Jerry.
00:16:28
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Who is this? This isn't your husband. Who's this hot guy? Who's this like hot piece ass? That was her inexplicably hot first husband who died in the war.
00:16:40
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Yes. um there's ah There's a few things in this movie that, like... hi this So um David Frayn, the guy who rewrote the script and directed this movie, is gay. And I feel like you can tell few times throughout this movie. Oh, yeah.
00:17:01
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yeah And I love it. We need yeah more gay writers. Yeah. um and So more gay writers writing straight rom-coms. Do we need that? i don't know if we need that. Oh, I think we absolutely need that.
00:17:14
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I lulled so many times at this movie. Yeah.
00:17:19
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Yeah, there's some gags. the script was great. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so, and then he chokes to death on a pretzel. Yep, yep, he as he's looking at this picture. And then he wakes up and he's Miles Teller on ah on a train. He is. He's suddenly Miles Teller, who is doing kind of an old man impression throughout the whole movie, which is pretty charming. yeah It's so charming and it's so sweet. Like, all three of them... Well, really, because like cause the inexplicably handsome guy, he's just inexplicably handsome. But, like, Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Teller are just so adorably sweet that it just sort of, like, melts your heart because they are, like...
00:18:05
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little old biddies in younger bodies it reminded me a lot I did this one act play in college um that was all about the passing of time of like a couple um it it was called post-its and it was like about they're told through their relationship like um through post-it, various post-its that they leave for each other. And that was like the whole play. And it follows them from like their courtship to when they die. ah And it was like, it was very much the same sort of thing of like, it's just sweet old love.
Philosophical Exploration of Afterlife in 'Eternity'
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Yeah. It's um the two of them are both, are both doing like some, some good character work in this for sure. yeah um They are both very fantastic.
00:18:53
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yeah the third the first like almost the i guess half of the first act of this movie is very centered on miles teller like elizabeth oh oh yeah and what for like 30 minutes no because they gotta set up they gotta set the world so they gotta give you a lot of context they're in like this train terminal that is it's very defending your life have you seen defending your life no no Okay, so we'll definitely watch it on the show at some point. um Defending Your Life is a movie from the 80s, which has got a kind of similar premise. um It's not about somebody choosing, but it's about like the afterlife, and it's a very corporate kind of Los Angeles suburban afterlife. It's um it's good.
00:19:38
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um and they It's kind of a way station. So everybody has an eternity that they can choose to go to. But once you choose this eternity, you can't leave. It's very dystopian. Like, I was thinking about that through this whole movie. Like, I don't know. Like, I would probably choose the void. Like, I... You would probably choose the void?
00:20:01
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All of these things things sound terrible. Like, everything... Like, forever? Forever? Forever? I mean, forever is a long time. ah It's an eternity. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, um yeah. I wouldn't want to be in the void forever. You'd go insane.
00:20:18
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No, you wouldn't go insane. you just you You would be nothing. It's like, I mean, have you seen have you seen The Good Place? Oh, yeah. When you get blipped. Well, here's like, okay, spoilers for The Good Place. I mean, at the end of The Good Place, they realized that eternity is too long, and they would all rather just be nothing than continue on in their supposedly, you know, perfect afterlife. Like, and I think that's very real. Like, yeah yes, you can do this thing. But like, perfection is boring.
00:20:48
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And You know, no matter what you're doing, if you have to do the same thing, if you're going to be in the same place forever, like you get sick of it so quickly, especially like, i mean, maybe you could last 100, 200, maybe even 300 years of doing something really incredible, like the Paris eternity. It's like Paris in the 60s, but everyone speaks English with a French accent. Oh, and everyone has civil rights.
00:21:11
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And everyone has to be wise. It's so good. Like all of the Eternities really made me lol. Like there were so many funny ones. So many funny ones. It's like workout land, um museum land. um Oh my god, there's like wine white white white lady wine land.
00:21:30
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that one is That one is discontinued. It's discontinued. ah There was No Man Land, which was sold out. Yes, it was sold out. You have to wait for to open a new, and they have to open a new version of it.
00:21:42
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It was so funny. um There's a commercial where like the MC c from Cabaret, like this very androgynous person is like talking about like, wasn't the Weimar area of Germany, one don't you want to live like every day as a cabaret? Now with 100% no Nazis. And it's like Weimar Land. 100% less Nazis.
00:22:01
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No Nazis, yeah. so good. Like, yeah, I could probably do a couple hundred years in Paris land. Yeah. um But like, because, here's the other thing. If you could move, like if you could do a hundred years in one of them and go to go and go to a different one, like that would be paradise, right? like Yeah. wants to And I don't know, like do people not have that that itch to travel? Like you can't live, and I couldn't live in the mountain land for a year. That would, I would go insane. Yeah.
00:22:32
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You'd run out of things to do is the thing. You'd run out of things to do so quickly. It's crazy. Yeah. So, like, I get it. I mean, i agree. I think that you should be able to travel between lands. I think that truly is paradise. um yeah Because i wouldn't want to be nothing.
00:22:51
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Yeah, it kept leading me to believe that there was going to be like, they were actually in hell. And like, that's exactly the same thing as The Good Place, though. So that would be a little too obvious. But yeah, it does. It's very dystopian. um So much so that it it made me anxious. Well, I mean, like, here's the thing. I thought about it a lot, too. And I was like, because you also get the choice you learn. Like, like if you don't want to pick an eternity, you can also choose to work.
00:23:17
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As like ah just someone in the like limbo land. You can like do cleaning or be a bartender or be an AC, which is an afterlife consultant, which are just like salespeople.
00:23:30
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And they help you pick your eternity. Which is also so extremely dystop extremely dystopian. dystopian. But like I was thinking about it. I was just like, I might just choose that because then you've got stuff to do every day.
00:23:44
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and it's different. yeah but Also, it's work. Like, i don't want to work when I'm dead. you crazy? That's like, that's capitalism land. There we see a brochure for capitalism land. Oh yeah, capitalism land? don't know. Working at the terminal is also capitalism land. Like you have to live in a shithole in the basement. They're like, oh no, yo you'll be cleaning. Like that's prison, basically.
00:24:04
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I mean, it just, it seems like a better thing than like doing nothing. um Well, here's the thing. It's like, yes, if you're conscious forever in a black void, like that's the worst torture that anybody could think of. But if you would eventually like if you would just go to sleep and like have no consciousness, like that would be better. think then I don't think that's how it works because they use it as a as a punishment.
00:24:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to say. I don't know. We don't know. It doesn't get into this. This is not really, I mean, I guess it is sci-fi movie. It's not that made Katie go down on anxiety spiral. Well, it's not just that. It's just one of those things where it's like, not all the time, but sometimes when I'm watching something, I think, well, how would I write this? And like, I am obviously not a very successful writer. So who am I to say? But just feel like, thanks, Emma. I feel like I would have made lot of different choices. And I like the movie in my head better.
00:25:04
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Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Then you should you should write it. No, too sleepy. if Too sleepy.
00:25:16
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No, no, no. Too sleepy. We meet Divine Joy Randolph, who we love. Yes, yeah Oscar winner. Oscar winner, Divine joy daine Joy Randolph, and John Early, who we also love. Love John Early. He's so funny. He's so funny. Have you seen um his like beat by beat parody of Showgirls?
00:25:40
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no He does the entire audition scene. It's him and, oh my God, that curly haired comedian that he does stuff with all the time, who I also love. I forget her name, but like he's he is- Leah Shotkett.
00:25:57
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no not alia shakett um it's he does he does a lot he used to do a lot of uh sketch comedy with this person oh um and they're doing just it's just literally beat by beat them doing um the audition scene and i think um cole what's his name Oh, it's Kate Berland. Yeah, I love Kate Berland. Kate Berland. Yeah, Kate Berland. And Scola is in it too. Yeah, yeah and Cola Scola is in it because the three of them just like did all of this ridiculous comedy. It's so fucking funny and there's literally nothing different about it. It's just the scene with them doing it. It's great. We should do showgirls on this show sometime. We should.
00:26:41
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Yeah, we should do showgirls. We'll be the first podcast to ever talk about showgirls. Yeah, we can do like slutty summer. Oh, okay. Yeah, we can do like showgirls, Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:26:55
Speaker
No, no, never mind. take it back. Hustlers. Hustlers is good. just the market um Yes, so they are both afterlife coordinators, ACs. Davine Joy Randolph is Jerry, Miles Teller's AC, and she explains everything to him. He has seven days to choose an eternity, or he can stay here. And it's he's like, well why do people stay here? So they either are waiting for somebody, or they are, they can't decide, or there's a few other reasons, yeah. Yeah. um And he is like...
00:27:32
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He's like, okay, well, I'm going to go to the beach. Yeah. And I'm going to leave i'm gonna leave a note. but what She's like, yeah I can stay. I can wait here. That won't be that bad. She goes, well, no, if you stay here longer than seven days, you have to live in the basement and get a job doing laundry. He's like, I'm going to go to the beach. I'm sure, because his wife had cancer yeah in the in the beginning and was did not have long to live. um And so he doesn't have to wait very long, but he can't do that.
00:28:00
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can't do that it' well his whole thing i think this guy sucks i think no and suck no no no no no i know i know we're gonna have an argument about it that's fine yeah that's fine yeah yeah so his whole thing which is why i am on miles teller's side from the get-go is that like his entire life is about making elizabeth olsen happy and about like doing things for Elizabeth Olsen. Like his he's constantly asking like questions of like, well, when my wife gets here, like da-da-da-da. Oh, she's not gonna like that. Oh, like i know i just I know the way that she likes things. I know the way that she likes things. He's always thinking about her. That's not a positive relationship. Like that's not that's not a healthy-
00:28:44
Speaker
That's not a healthy relationship. It's so sweet. his His entire life has been... It's not sweet. It sucks. He's been making up for this lost love of her life their entire life.
00:28:58
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And like they bicker constantly. a very cute way. It's... Okay. Yeah, it's fine. I... um And he is like, he he is, he's unwilling to, he he won't wait longer than a week for her. Well, no, he's hoping is that he's going to go get it set up for her. He's going to get it set up. And that's, that's in the note. He's going to go get them a house. He's going make it the way that he she wants it. He's making a choice for her for you eternity, for eternity. Because they're going to be together forever.
00:29:33
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But they couldn't, he, the two of them were arguing about whether to spend a vacation at the beach or the mountains before they died, and they couldn't
Character Choices and Dilemmas in 'Eternity'
00:29:42
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agree on that. So now he has the, he's going to go ahead and choose that they're going to spend the rest of their eternity at the beach? That's crazy! yeah okay it's not great that he chooses the eternity for her. I'll give him that. i don't think there's anything worse you can do to someone. It's,
00:29:59
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I mean, think there's plenty of things. Nope. Nope. There's not. I mean, okay. In this case, it's the beach. Sure. But I'm talking about conceptually choosing how someone else making a decision about how someone else spends eternity is literally worse than anything else.
00:30:18
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God, I can't wait until we do passengers on this. We're not going to do passengers on this. think Think about that. Like, Yes, I know. Like you could, you can do, you'd torture and and do horrible things to somebody, but all of that is temporary, right? I mean, and even that ends in death. This doesn't end in death. And even though in this case, it's like a nice place that you're choosing to spend some money for eternity. So it doesn't seem that bad, but the amount of consent you're taking away from somebody in that is greater than anything possible because it's forever.
00:30:50
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Because he's he's setting it up for her. He's getting it the way that she likes it. What does that mean? That means he's gonna like... He's gonna get it ready. Even Devine Joy Randolph says that doesn't mean anything to him. um And he's gonna leave her a note saying, hey, I went to the beach. um I hope you want to spend eternity at the beach.
00:31:16
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Come meet me there. just crazy. it's It's just, it's crazy. I'm on Miles Teller's side. I'm happy for you. Thank you. I can't get behind it. And don't get me wrong, I don't like the other guy either, but we'll get to that. Yeah, yeah. um But as he's on the escalator to catch his train to Beachtown, he sees Elizabeth Olsen, who had just died, and she's going up the escalator. And so then has to run down and then run back up. And then they're reunited. And it's very, very sweet for all of two seconds.
00:31:50
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And so you see John Early, who is her AC, yeah directs her into the the eyes of Callum Turner, who Miles turn yeah miles Teller met at the bar the previous one of the previous nights. He's the bartender there. he has been waiting at the terminal here for 67 years for Elizabeth Olsen to die. And he has been living in a in a horrible apartment in the basement and working as a bartender all of that time all of that time and uh he he is sort of like befriended because he's been there for so long he's befriended so many people that like work in this limbo so everybody is like she is the golden goose and john early got her and he like everybody's invested in the story yes
00:32:36
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Yeah, and they they, you know, think that it's going to be an immediate sort of, they see each other and it's a love story to end all love stories. And so everyone's like super, super invested. But that's not exactly what happens. I mean, she sees him and she's shocked and in awe and, you know, weak at the knees again because he's very, very handsome. um and theys Very handsome, yes. He's very, very handsome. It's so crazy because he looks like a person like you know how people have iPhone face he has like rotary telephone face like he looks like he's from the 40s yeah he does he looks like every single like leading man in an old black and white movie that you've ever seen
00:33:23
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Yeah, yeah. um And so like John Early is like trying to push her and him together because he wants this to work out and he's so excited and he's happy. But like she's very overwhelmed as she rightly should be because her husband's there and her other husband's there.
00:33:45
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And so she doesn't know what to do. And so um Jerry, Miles Teller, is like, um well, you know, we're gonna go to the beach, right? We're gonna we're gonna we're go to spend eternity together. he he like doesn't understand. And then the two guys fight a little bit.
00:34:04
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and So much so to where John Early and Divine call up their boss, Frank. Yeah, we never see him, yeah. Yeah, well, it's just like, because it's so funny in the beginning, Teller's like, where's God? And...
00:34:23
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who's your boss god and she goes oh you're one of those and he goes who's your boss and she goes frank and she goes who's frank's boss and it's like john or something it's just like a bunch of generic names it's all bureaucracy yeah exactly they have so all religion is real if you want it to be in this world yeah there's there's there's christian heaven their eternity there's islam eternity there's shinto eternity like all of that is possible you can do whatever you want yep um In addition to World,
00:34:53
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queer world yeah um Smoker's World, Cancer Can't Kill You Twice. Can't Kill You Twice. Hermit's World, Finance World, Christmas World.
00:35:04
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There's a commercial for Medical World. where Yeah. It's just a medical drama. He's cardiacing really hard and they try to like shock him and blood splatters in your face. He we lost him. He goes, but we found each other. It's like, you want to live in Grey's Anatomy.
00:35:17
Speaker
Exactly. and it's like noome And it says no medical experience necessary. Yeah, yeah. He's cardiac-ing really hard. Yeah. um ah Yes, and then we see somebody getting tackled who came out of a red door, and it's like, if you try to escape the eternity that you get to, you get sent to the void. Yeah.
00:35:39
Speaker
Yeah, which is just nothing. The whole thing is so dystopian. And like, I also wonder if this script is old enough to predate The Good Place because it seems so similar to The Good Place in a lot of ways, because it is this, this is supposed to be good, but it's actually really bad kind of undercurrent to everything because the position that she's put in is impossible basically. And it's yeah like, it's a very popular like thought experiment and I'm sure there's short stories and stuff at least, and maybe other movies devoted to this exact concept. Like,
00:36:10
Speaker
Say you get married and your husband dies and then you meet somebody else and you love them both. And then like yeah you get to heaven and like, who are you spending, sitting and sit in the condo in heaven with? It's the problem with the afterlife in general, right? Yeah.
00:36:24
Speaker
I mean, yeah. I mean, like, are you going to go with your first husband or are you going to go with the husband who gave you children and you spent 65 years with? Which is essentially the whole plot of this film. um Yeah. But it doesn't center her. It doesn't center her like it should. Like, this is weirdly Miles Teller's movie. like miles telly was the main part i mean do you disagree no the whole thing that listeners didn't get was that charlie was sharing his opinion in the green room and so this brings me to charlie's corner charlie's corner charlie's corner i governor
00:37:05
Speaker
um And that's because at the end of this film, I'm sobbing. Really? No, it did not connect with me. yeah Crying my eyes out. And I turned to Charlie and I was like, I really like that. And a lot of times when this happens, he'll turn to me and goes, that was excellent. That was good. He turned to me and goes, really? i did not like that. And I was like, why? and he goes on this whole...
00:37:35
Speaker
very well thought out and very like essentially what you just said monologue about how he this was obviously written by a man or by men and he would have liked elizabeth olsen to have more agency over her fate and how it wasn't really her story and how it um even though it should have been because it was her choice And all of her decisions were, you know, manipulated by these two men in her life. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I get it. i get it. That's that's the truth. But here's the thing. It hit me right in the heartstrings. And I think it was the old people of it all.
00:38:16
Speaker
It gets into this thing where it's yeah, it's it's his story. And so you assume you under you know what's going to happen here. And then, like, for a brief moment, it doesn't do that. um Yeah. But we're a little ahead of ourselves. Because the first thing that happens is they get special dispensation from Frank or whoever. Yeah. To each spend a day in a different eternity with her. And then she gets to choose.
00:38:42
Speaker
Yeah. Which is, again, like An impossible situation. it is, but it's like, it's like, why does she have to choose between these two men? Like that is the only choice that's given to her. You have. Yeah.
00:38:55
Speaker
Two men that you can choose. And we learned that it's not actually, that's not actually the choice that they're given. But that is that is the way that the, that Davine, Joy Randolph and John Early are framing it. Because there's also this other thing that I don't understand, which is like, why are these people so invested in selling their eternity? Like they're not living in that eternity. Like based on the rules of the world, they've never even been there. And they're all trying to sell their own specific brand of eternity so hard. What are they getting in? I mean, there's got to be something on the back end, right? There's got to be something on the back end. Like maybe they get like better lodging or something like that. It doesn't get into it, but you have to assume that maybe like, know, the more ah like people you get to go into an eternity, like you get more, like you get a bonus or something like that. Like, I don't know. Like there's obviously you can go into depth. Yeah, it's very capitalistic, but you have to assume that that's sort of like, because they're all sort of like salespeople and they're like pushing to sort of, you know, yeah, they're pushing people to like go into the different eternities and the people who are spokespeople for different eternities are trying to sell their eternities. Like, I don't know.
00:40:05
Speaker
Here's the thing, Katie, at the end of the day, yes. Did this movie have a lot of problems? Yes. Did I like it for what it was, which was a fun, emotional rom-com of a film that made me cry because old people. Yes.
00:40:22
Speaker
I just sort of unplugged my brain, which at the end of the day is what this podcast is about. You got to just unplug your brain, take it for what it is. Don't think about it too hard. Don't try to think about the female rights of it all.
00:40:34
Speaker
Listen, I can get into that. There's plenty of movies that I i enjoy for those reasons. Like, there's there's lots of... um I mean, and we've talked about them on this podcast before, but there's plenty... Like, I don't get, like, wrapped around stuff just because a movie is is silly.
00:40:50
Speaker
um This was different for me. i didn't I didn't get emotionally connected to this for for a few different reasons. i did Oh, three different reasons.
00:41:01
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For a few different reasons, I said. um Oh. But so the first thing that happens is so she goes to the mountains with Luke is his name, by the way, Callum Turner, yeah Mr. Dua Lipa himself. Yeah.
00:41:15
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And so do it's an extremely boring like cabin mountain situation. It's like the it's Canada. Eternity is what it is. Essentially. Yeah. I mean, I have to assume that they film this in Vancouver.
00:41:30
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it It's extremely Vancouver coded. Yes. Yes. Um, cause the beach looks fake and the mountains real. That all looks real. And they even go over that like little bridge that's famous in Vancouver.
00:41:43
Speaker
Oh, sure. Is it? Okay. Well, I just know it cause it was on psych and everything on psych was in Vancouver. Oh yes. Psych is shot in Vancouver. I mean, everything is shot in Vancouver on TV, really. um Yeah. There's, ah yes, so, and she, like, gets to know him. And so the whole, like, push and pull of this is that, like, they had a different kind of love and she didn't get to know what life with him would have been like. So here's the thing, like, yeah, okay, so spend 65 years with him and then go do something else, you know? Yeah. Like, yeah.
00:42:13
Speaker
And then she goes, yeah, she goes to the beach with Miles Teller and it's, like, It's like a beach. It's really crowded. and Yeah. Yeah. It's a very popular afterlife.
00:42:26
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People everywhere. It's like, that sucks. Like ah you want to live, you want to be at a crowded beach forever. Like the thing about a vacation and the thing about life, which is like,
00:42:36
Speaker
I think the very obvious point that this movie is getting to is that it's beautiful because it ends. Like one of my favorite books of all time, like depending on the day, my favorite book of all time is kind of about the same concept. It's called Never Let Me Go.
00:42:51
Speaker
And there is like, there's something beautiful about like scarcity, right? Like it's, if something goes on forever, it loses everything. It loses, it loses spontaneity. It loses um variety. It loses interest. Like all of that is, is, is hell.
00:43:15
Speaker
Like eternity of doing one thing is hell. And my disappointment in this movie is because is, is that it doesn't really do anything with that. Yeah. Because what, because it seems like for a moment that something different is going to happen, which I feel like they wrote themselves into a corner and the way that they get out of it isn't satisfying to me because. What, what, what was the moment that you, you felt like it was going to do something different?
00:43:43
Speaker
Well, because when she goes, I choose neither of you. Oh yeah. When she chooses that's what Karen or whatever her name is, her friend who also died. Yes, her her lesbian friend, Karen, who's like, I went lesbian for three full months and I don't regret it or something. And she's like, now that I'm in the afterlife, yeah.
00:44:03
Speaker
She spent her whole life positive. Yeah, the whole thing is that like you take the form, your body takes the form of when you were the most happiest. um And so Miles Teller looks like Miles Teller because he was happiest in his 30s. Elizabeth Olsen looks young and Luke looks young. um And ah because he asks and they're like, that's why there's so many like um little little boys, because that's 10 year old boys. Yeah. a Cowboy world. Cowboy world crawling with 10 year old boys. Right. um And so like when Miles Teller goes and talks to whatever, I can't even remember what her name is. um is it Karen? Karen.
00:44:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's Karen. Oh, I guessed right. When he goes to go talk to Karen um to like ask her, like, why does Elizabeth Olsen, when did Elizabeth Olsen fall in love with me? What made her fall in love with me is what was saying. Yeah. And she opens the door and goes, oh, you're still old. And she goes, actually, I'm 65.
00:45:05
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I'm 72, she
00:45:11
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And then she goes on the whole spiel about how she was the most happiest when after her husband died and she went on a ah pottery retreat with her friend and they were full-blown lesbians for three months. Full-blown lesbian, which is a funny thing to say.
00:45:25
Speaker
um So, and then... so she big so elizabeth olson um um uh character whose name is joan so joan like bonds with karen and like she talks to her about it and she's like what should i do and so basically she rejects both of them they go and get drunk together she decides to go to paris world paris eternity with uh with joan which is like oh that's nice and then i realized there's 30 minutes left of this movie i'm like uh-oh
00:45:57
Speaker
She's not going to Paris world, is she? What's going to happen? Well, what I was hoping would happen is there'd be like a breakdown of this, like obviously evil um afterlife capitalist state. You know, that's what I wanted to happen. What I wanted to happen was that everything kind of,
00:46:18
Speaker
fractures and we like what we have what happens later on when she goes through the red door where she's like going through the memories and like moving yeah through stuff like i wanted more of that i wanted this like kind of surreal set piece ending where they find a way to break the rules in a way that doesn't still end in like a boring eternity you know what i mean
Critique of 'Eternity's' Dystopian Themes
00:46:43
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Yeah. and they They sort of get there, but I wanted it to square that circle a little bit better with her making the decision herself, which she still doesn't do. Yeah. Not really. did. Yeah.
00:46:58
Speaker
And, like, finding a way, like, into something that is not offered from the, from the afterlife corporation, really. Yeah. um Which they sort of do, but again, not really. It's still the same thing.
00:47:13
Speaker
Yeah, because what happens is Miles tell her he's getting drunk with Luke and they're bonding and it's really cute and adorable. And then um he ah he has this realization that Joan cut her hair after Luke died.
00:47:29
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So he's only ever known Joan with short hair. And yeah she came into the afterworld with long hair. And so she he realizes that she was the happiest when she was with Luke. So he runs to the train.
00:47:43
Speaker
to tell her and give her this is again where charlie had a big issue uh he goes to give his permission and essentially and say you were the happiest with luke you go be with luke we had 65 wonderful years um go go be with that guy uh you were obviously the happiest the strictures of the eternity just mean that you have to stay in the eternity. She doesn't have to stay with him for eternity. Like if she wants to break up with Luke, but stay in mountain eternity, which seems crazy.
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah. um She could do that. um So she's like, okay, I will. Yep. and And then she goes off with Luke to mountain land. He's like, cause he's like, I'm happy if you're happy. And it's this very like, like,
00:48:37
Speaker
You're just knowing that you're happy makes me happy. He's like, I'll be in the sun because I'm self-sacrificing now all of a sudden, even though I haven't done it through for a whole- Okay. Okay. Okay. I was crying still.
00:48:53
Speaker
Happy for you. um ah So she goes to Mountain Eternity, which again, just seems like hell. um ah And is like skiing and in the cabin and is there for, we don't really know how long, maybe years. We don't know. Maybe. Yeah.
00:49:10
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And she's going to the archives. Yeah, which is like a movie theater, like amusement sideshow thing where you go and you visit your memories. Which is something that exists pretty much exactly the same in Defending Your Life. You're watching it instead of the little stage play thing that they're doing in this movie. But it's the exact same concept in Defending Your Life, yeah.
00:49:37
Speaker
Yeah. And so she, um she goes and she ends up spending almost every single day there are watching her memories of her courtship and her life with Jerry. And she realizes that she misses him and she
Philosophical Lessons from 'Eternity'
00:49:53
Speaker
loves him. And the love that she had with Luke is, was a young, that was a young person's love. That was, you know,
00:50:02
Speaker
young love and it's different and it's different than waking up and you know working on and your marriage year after year after year and um that's who she wants to spend eternity with is jerry um and so her and luke have this whole like you know confrontation where he gets really upset rightfully so and he's just like i waited for you i mean to be fair she didn't ask him to do that No, she didn't. Well, and the other thing is, like, so there's a there's a little bit of something else we skipped past, which is the letter that he wrote her when he was going to leave her and go to Beachworld, and she finds out that he did all of that, which is when she decides she's going to have neither of them.
00:50:42
Speaker
Yeah. um So that's involved as well. um But ah there's, what was I going to say here? Oh, man, I took so many notes on this.
00:50:58
Speaker
Maybe that's why you didn't get emotionally attached, because you were making too many notes. Yeah. ah She's pretty melancholy in eternity, because how are you not? She's watching Memories of Larry and being melancholy for eternity in Vancouver. Depressing! i mean, she's gotta feel something. Because, like, every single day, it's like, let's do things that make you happy and make you joyful. But then, like, you know, you gotta... to feel some sort of other feelings and so to feel those other feelings she goes to these archives and she cries and she watches her life and this is the thing that that got me the closest to to to crying i would say it's like especially the bit when she's watching them being old in the car the scene from the beginning when she's watching that scene like she's watched their entire life um and she it's it's the so it's the dawson pacey situation right so like uh spoilers for dawson's creek a television show that ended 25 years ago um
00:51:55
Speaker
Dawson is... R.I.P. James Van Der Beek. R.I.P. James Van Der Beek. The... the um She's with Dawson, and that is a that is an immature, young, childhood love. They were best friends from when they were little kids, and they dated in high school, and they loved each other, and then they broke up. And then she dated Pacey when they were adults.
00:52:21
Speaker
And, you know, years later, like, after college and everything, I say adults, you know, they're like 25 on the show on the show. The point is like, well, no, they're like 27 or 28 because there's a time jump. It doesn't matter. um they She chooses Pacey and ends up with Pacey by the end of the show because... that second great love in her life was the one that was more mature and informed yeah by the previous things that had happened to them. And they had a different kind of relationship and a different connection that was more mature than the, than what she had with Dawson, which is the correct choice is the the way to end that show for sure.
00:53:01
Speaker
um and But the problem is eternity, right? Like it's the name of the movie. It's impossible to forget. They say it a thousand million times in this movie. yeahp That works just fine for the end of a TV show where it's like, you know, maybe 10 years later they break up. Who knows? Doesn't matter. not get we don't yeah We don't get that point. The credits have happened. It's over. Or for the rest of their lives. And then they die. That's also fine. Eternity creates a problem because it's
00:53:35
Speaker
It's just another one of those those things where, again, when you stretch something out to eternity, it seems like a curse, right? I mean, it depends. Like, if you're content with yourself and content with, like, your life, you know, you could you could spend eternity. Like, I guess I never thought about it too hard, okay? this's a thing And I think part of it is the setting. Like, yes, if this movie ended with the two of them together, but they've taken down The Eternity Corporation and everybody can move between the eternities as much as they want. It's like, let's spend a year at the beach and then we'll go to Weimar world but with 100% less Nazis. And then we can go somewhere else. Like everybody has the keys to the doors and the the place is is broken free. And we've created like a Marxist utopia in the the afterlife terminal.
00:54:26
Speaker
And they're together. That is fine. That I understand. It's the fact that they are still locked into this choice at the end of the movie that made me like, like recoil from it. yeah Even more so because they have to, because they're both, well, she's a fugitive and yeah ah they have to go to John early and dev divine smuggle them into one of the defunct um worlds that nobody checks. Yeah.
00:54:53
Speaker
So yeah, they earlier on they find some some decommissioned worlds. you're like well Some of them are kind of racist and some of them... There's this clown world discontinued. Marxist world and full. ah Marxist world was sold out, actually. That's an important distinction. Marxist world. Yeah. That's where wine world was discontinued also. And then there's like...
00:55:17
Speaker
like suburban regular world discontinued. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And so that's where they... so Yeah, so she, they steal, so Luke, you know, she tells Luke, she goes, I'm gonna leave, and he's like, well, I'll help you. Like, I'm stuck here in eternity in the mountains. I'm sure I'll find some lady to spend some time with, or maybe a boy. um ah There's a a hint of bisexuality in the 67 years he spent in the terminal. they don't really get into it.
00:55:45
Speaker
yeah um And he's like he's like, yeah, I slept with a few ladies over 60 years, and and, you know, one guy, and generally it's like, two guys. It was two guys. He's like, oh yeah. Two guys. Which led me to believe, was it John Early? what Did he hook up with John Early? That's what I thought the joke was, was that it was John Early.
00:56:02
Speaker
Yeah. um John Early and Dave Vine, Joy rand Randolph end up together also. and then But then they're already talking about going poly by the time they help them sneak into the other world.
00:56:14
Speaker
She steals a red key and goes, kind of crawls through their memories in a very like eternal sunshine kind of way. Yeah. Yeah. um and and like being chased by the guards which like and everybody's a fucking cop like all the like the little girl like immediately blows her whistle and gets everybody to chase her down it's like you were condemning this person to an eternity of the void and like you're so cavalier and blase about it like again like there's something sinister behind all of this um could not get that out of my head behind the corporation
00:56:47
Speaker
I couldn't get it out of my head how like hellish this would be if it were real. You should wait the sequel, Eternity 2. Not forever. ah um But they get ah a key, they get a way into, John Early and Dave and Joey Randolph sneak them into one of the discontinued worlds because they're like, the cops will never find you there. And it's a like suburban world. And they're like, oh, it looks just like our our home. Yeah.
00:57:16
Speaker
That we lived in. In Except now you're never going to see your kids or anything again. and now and And who knows who lives there? Maybe racists. It doesn't say why it was discontinued. kept saying racists. They kept saying some of them were racist. um it's ah It's very troubling. Yeah. i But it was sweet because they walk off into the distance holding hands.
00:57:43
Speaker
Sure. And I cried. cried. That whole scene when she back when she's watching her memories and she's realizing that she really loves Miles Teller and that's the love that she wants to spend eternity with.
Comparisons to Other Media
00:57:59
Speaker
Like that's when I just like got really sad and emotional. Well, not sad, but like it really touched me.
00:58:06
Speaker
And part of that might have been the old people in the scene. But um sure i cry a lot of old people, as we've learned from ah the Notebook. Yeah, I don't get that. i don't i don't have the old people, like, makes you cry, Jean, thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they make me cry. um Any Super Bowl Sunday, those commercials, um I'm a goner.
00:58:28
Speaker
Got to wear my waterproof. Oh, yeah. it's like There's old people commercials in the Super Bowl? It's always like, how do we get to the heartstrings of America? Like, ah here's here's the most emotional things you can understand.
00:58:43
Speaker
Every Super Bowl commercial I've ever seen has been against my will.
00:58:48
Speaker
ah Even the Budweiser ones. Budweiser. I'm aware of that, Marshall. Yes. yeah um yeah But I, again, my mom, who still has cable, like, she spends like $200 a month on cable. She told me that. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:59:07
Speaker
And she won't get rid of She won't get rid of it because she likes to watch trash. Like, she's 70 years old. That's what they do. Yeah. Yeah. um like we talked about in the last episode all these character actors you wonder where they are they're on the most successful tv show that runs on tv no one has ever seen well it's not just there's a million of them did you know that dick wolf has nine shows on the air right now well yeah three of them are in chicago yeah three of them are in chicago i could have told you those but there's three Chicago yep
00:59:40
Speaker
And there's three FBI's, which oh I had never heard of Okay, let me see if I can name six six of them. I don't know the FBI's, but I know i know the law and orders. Did you know was a show?
00:59:51
Speaker
Did you know there was a show called FBI, and let alone three of them? Yes. I knew that there was a show called FBI because David Borealis is on it. i didn't not I did not know David Boreanaz was on it. I like David Boreanaz.
01:00:04
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is He's still hot. Of course, it's David Boreanaz. It's Angel. He's like 60. Okay, fine. It doesn't matter. yeah it's It's Angel. It's freaking Booth from Bones. Sometimes, I'm not saying that all 60-year-old people are not hot, but let me say sometimes people, when they're hot in their 20s, they let themselves go a little bit.
01:00:24
Speaker
He's still hot. ah But let's see if I can name it. Mickey Rourke was hot in his 20s, so let's be real, you know? Yeah, no. No, thank you. Have you seen have you seen movies with him in the from the 80s? No.
01:00:36
Speaker
Like, he was hot. Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, Chicago PD, Law and Order SVU, Law and Order Criminal Intent.
Discussion on Long-Running TV Shows
01:00:44
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Yes. Law and Order.
01:00:47
Speaker
Yes. And then FBI, LA? fbi l a No. Ah, FBI Special Forces?
01:01:00
Speaker
No. I don't know what they are, but I know that's not it.
01:01:08
Speaker
It's FBI International. okay. And FBI Most Wanted. Ah, yes, I've seen trailers that. Yeah. I love a good trash TV show.
01:01:20
Speaker
I'm gonna give myself a pat back for doing the ah Chicago shows. The one Chicago show is in. Law and Order Criminal Intent is wrong. Oh no! It's not in the air anymore? No, that it ended quite some time ago. here hold on, hold on. Let me find this thing. Cause I was on Dick Wolf's Wikipedia page earlier.
01:01:38
Speaker
but i'm just my hey Listen, like, because I clicked on something and I fell through and I kept clicking on things and somehow I ended up there. I don't remember. I couldn't tell you. live Here there we go. Here's the list. um Law and Order Organized Crime is the first one. Oh yeah. Cause they brought it back because one Stabler, Stabler came back and that's his show. And they have a lot of crossovers with SVU. I know. I know who Stabler is. Yes. Yeah, good job.
01:02:06
Speaker
Yeah, so Law & Order rebooted in 2022, and organized crime started in 2021, then FBI, Most Wanted, and International all yeah happened in the last, like, six or seven years.
01:02:19
Speaker
Yeah, and they'll never get rid of SVU. As long Mariska Harditay still wanted to do it, they'll never get rid of SVU. Law & Order Special Victims Unit has been on For 25 years. Yeah, since 2000. 26 years. Yeah, sell a paycheck.
01:02:34
Speaker
And does it ever get old? No. Have I gone through phases where I have watched like 18 seasons back to back?
01:02:46
Speaker
yeah it's crazy That's I can't imagine. I have never seen an entire episode of any Law & Order show. I have seen a full episode of, i want to say Chicago PD because someone I knew was on it and we all went to a bar to watch it together. And so I did watch an entire episode of Chicago PD um ah because she was on it and I've never seen any of the rest of them.
01:03:10
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and I've auditioned for all three Chicago shows. and Well, that's the thing. line They keep yeah keep people like working, which is... You gotta have stuff like that. You need theater actors to to get a paychecks in between shows sometimes. so Exactly. exactly let the shows for Let them do their law and order shows. Does FBI shoot in Los Angeles? Because that would be cool. Because then he's got one.
01:03:34
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Or maybe Atlanta? Yeah.
01:03:37
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Well, Googling FBI is difficult, so let's try this. FBI TV show.
01:03:46
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Where does FBI show shoot? New York. No, it also shoots in New York. oh that' Suck it, LA.
01:03:58
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I mean, there's no theater actors in LA anyway. They've got enough shows. They've got CSI. They'll be fine. CSI's been off the air for a long time. God damn it. NCIS?
01:04:10
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Yeah, I think NCIS is still on. Yeah. Okay. and That's one of my mom's favorites. She's always calling calling me ask. Anyway, the whole point of this is that she's always talking to me. She's like, did you see this commercial? Did you see this commercial? It's like, I organized my life in a way that I don't have to watch commercials. I've not seen that commercial. And no, I don't want you to describe it to me.
01:04:27
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Please don't describe to me what happens in a commercial. But she's mom. She's got to do it. She's got to do it. It's what they She doesn't listen to anything I say. Yeah. It's like when I described to someone an SNL sketch beat by beat.
01:04:41
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ah hu yeah Except occasionally those are funny. I will say there was a pretty gold um it was a pretty golden episode this past Saturday with Connor Story from Heated Rivalry.
Current Media and Viewing Habits
01:04:55
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um yes There's a really good one where it's this couple breaking up in front of the Rockefeller ice skating rink and it's just a bunch of guys in the background going, wee!
01:05:07
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it's It's great. It's really good. I'll have to send it to you. Well, that made me laugh. oh Yeah. And then there was one where he plays a stripper but who got hit by a car but still wants to perform to get the paycheck. So he's like dragging himself.
01:05:23
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It was really good. He's a very talented actor. Good job. That's what people say. Maybe I'll watch it sometime. I forget. Have you seen Heated Rivalry? i watched the first episode um and i we Charlie and I tried, but Charlie got turned off by the lack of plot. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Sure, sure, sure, sure. I get that. yeah Well, there's only like six episodes, right? so Yeah. And apparently like after the third episode is when it gets really good.
01:05:49
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don't know. People love it. People are trying to get me to watch it and yeah I'll probably watch it eventually. I mean, both of the guys are really hot and they're very talented actors. So, and ah so Sophie Nestle from Yellow Jackets is in it, who I love.
01:06:02
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I don't know who that is, but. She's young Melanie Leninsky. Melanie Leninsky, right.
01:06:12
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I love that it's a running gag now. I know, right? I'm just never going to correct myself. No, that's fine. That was eternity. Yeah. Yeah. Two a half stars.
01:06:25
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I give it three and a half. Oh, there you go. Well, good for you. Did you log in on Letterboxd? No. You haven't been on Letterboxd in a long time, yeah. I know. your own personal archives. Just in the spreadsheet you have on your computer where you meticulously log every movie you ever see.
01:06:40
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Sure, yeah. I definitely do that. No, in my brain. In my brain. What are we watching next week, Emma? Next week we are... ah
01:06:52
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You're going to kill me. Am i I? had like a little moment because I had no idea until right before we started recording what I was
Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
01:07:02
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going pick. And I had three in my back pocket and I wanted to see what was streaming. and then as this episode has gone on, I've had something stuck in my head that has convinced me that we have to do this one film because I can't wait to watch Charlie watch it. Which is a lot of the reason- It is a rom-com. It is a lot of reasons for me picking movies is that I want to watch Charlie watch these movies, which is why when he doesn't watch them, I get sad. um right
01:07:31
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we're We're going back to the DCOM universe. ah yeah you know Oh, Disney Channel original movie. huh Yeah, yeah. we're gonna We're going classic here. We're doing some high school musical, baby.
01:07:44
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Okay, alright, back on the hudgetop, as it were. Back on the hudgetop! Although it's not a Christmas movie, so it's not really the hudgetop. It's like, we're just gonna have some hot hudge.
01:07:56
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Yeah. Like a sundae with a little hudge topping, yeah. Exactly, a little a little hot hudge. a little a little hudge birth. Hudge birth. Ugh. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. like that I was like, hudge...
01:08:13
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Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I'm very excited. We're going to hudge our bets by watching High School Musical 1, I'm assuming, right? High School Musical 1, you betcha, baby, because we're all in this together.
01:08:27
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We are. Bet on it. That's from the second one. That's from the second one. It's on my workout mix, and I love it so much. Not surprised.
01:08:38
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I mean, I've been running to that song since college and I will continuously run and sing along to it because I can. Anyway, show me outro. Let's outro. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it.
01:09:00
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01:09:12
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01:09:25
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To choose us. Yeah. Good night.