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Emma & Katie travel back to a more ironic time (2007) to talk about the twee hipster millenial touchstone Juno. There's lots of lorry talk, we get kind of political and discuss the discography of Belle & Sebastian at length. Hope you're into that sort of thing.
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Charlie's Pre-Flight Adventures
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um So Charlie's not here. He's in England visiting his family. I know. He he texted me. Yeah. he He was at the zoo in oh yeah so in the Central Park Zoo. Yeah. yeah he So on Saturday, his flight was at 6 p.m., but I had to be at work all day.
00:00:19
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So instead of paying for an Uber... to take him down to the train. um He asked if I could drive him to the train before I go to work. So he he got into New
Airport Tensions & Escapes
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York, um I want to say like around like 1230.
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And so he had so much time to kill. I mean, it's New York. There's plenty to do for, I mean, yeah honestly, he probably had to be at the airport at 430. So, you know, it's not that long.
00:00:47
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That's true. um So he went to the Central Park Zoo and he saw, did he send you the penguins? He sent me the toucan. yeah. And he sent me something.
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Oh, he did, yes. And then he sent me red pandas yeah and the penguins. Yes, he sent me the penguins as well. He yeah was in love in the penguin exhibit. Penguins are his favorite animal. So he was just so happy. They're pretty freaking cute. um And so he he just he had the best day. And then he got some ice cream.
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And then he went to the airport. And then that day What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. And then that day was not so fun because he got to the airport and
Reflections Post-Political Event
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there were some ice agents at JFK. Oh, of course. Of course. course there were. Of course there were.
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um And ah let me. Charlie, ah just for just for, you know, perhaps new listeners, an immigrant, we should say. An immigrant. Yes. Charlie. Charlie's from the UK. Yeah.
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And no one should be pleased that there are ICE agents in the airport, but, you know, especially um nervous making for immigrants. Yes, exactly. Especially nervous making for immigrants. um And so he took some pictures and he was just like, ah look at these losers standing around not doing anything.
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And then he he said, so passport checks. He was passport checked by ts by a TSA agent. I was like, you can go. and she was like, you can go over to that baggage check area.
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Points to the lane worked only by ICE. And Charlie responded, would rather not if that's okay. She smirked and then she let me wait in the one with the TSA agents doing the baggage
Camels, Family & Slang
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check. See, that's good. that's Yeah. Yeah. Nobody's happy that they're there.
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Yeah. um Nobody wants them there. this kind What a nightmare we live in. Fucking hot damn mess. We're recording this the day after um our president ah basically threatened nuclear war against ah Iran. So.
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so Just to put this episode in context. I'm sure things are worse, you know, a month in the future when this airs. but Yeah. I mean, when this airs, i yeah boy, oh boy, maybe we won't have podcasts because we'll be in nuclear fallout.
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Who knows? know I mean, we won't. but We'll both be dead, but some people might be in fallout shelters. Yeah. um But that was a long-winded way of me saying that Charlie has a message for you, and he wanted me in to respond. For God's sake.
00:03:16
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if Is it Happy Hump Day? He wants to wish you a Happy Hump Day. That's great. That's great.
00:03:26
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There's no camels at the Central Park Zoo, I guess, huh? No, no. I don't think they have the square footage. Only small animals. You know, he he could have gone on to a Forbidden Planet, one of the best comic book stores in and the country.
00:03:40
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I know. Well, he's super bored right now. He's over at my sister-in-law's with my niece and nephew who are adorable tweens and they're on spring break.
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And they're just so... They got spring break in the UK? They do! They don't call it something?
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No. Well, they don't call it spring break. It's amusing to me to use the word Lori as a replacement for any word that English people might have for, uh... Lori. Uh...
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No, they call it, um... Do they call it, uh... spring half term or like i right yeah something ridiculous um but yeah they're on spring break and it's just so cute because charlie keeps saying gen z slang to my niece and my niece keeps being like no stop up your niece is not
Cultural Differences & Listener Feedback
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gen z by the way or gen what is it gen alpha alpha yeah yeah
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I mean, who knows what the Gen Alpha kids are saying? Like, that's completely foreign. Like, if it's younger than, than you know, six seven like, i don't know what they're saying to each other in fifth grade. Jesus.
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jesus Six, seven. Stupid. Fuck God. Six, seven. um He said, oh God, did he say that eats or he said something along the lines of um something ridiculous. And she got so embarrassed. She ran away and she was just like, my uncle said this ah to her friend. And yeah, it was very funny. that was It was a moment that I was just like, oh my God, she's a tween.
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She's a tween. She's embarrassed of you now. My baby girl. My baby, baby girl. I love her so much. ah My niece. Shout out to Rosalie.
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i Soon she'll be smoking lorries and drinking lorries. Smoking lorries, drinking lorries. Just... Lorrying it up. Stealing lorries.
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yeah Lorrying it up. Boy, oh boy. Lorries. Famously featured in today's film. Um, there's a van. Is a van a lorry? Or does it have to be like a like a a semi to be a lorry? Is a pickup a lorry?
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No, ah a truck. It's just a truck. It's like... But we pickup truck a truck. But...
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like
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Does a lorry have to be separated is what i'm saying. Does it have to be like a semi? I think so. It has to be. Yeah. It has to be like something that like, you know, is it is a garbage truck a lorry? have so many questions about lorries. I want to say that a garbage truck is a lorry. I don't know. um Interesting. British listeners, because I know you're out there. Send us a message.
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Is it a rubbish lorry instead of instead of a garbage truck?
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No, I think it's a bi the bin, the bin man. Well, that, no, that's the man. What's the, what's the truck called? The bin man truck. What is the bin man tribe? The bin man Lori. Is it a bin Lori?
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bin Lori? don't know. Um, send us an email at go get your girl pod at gmail.com. Actually don't. I don't care.
Exploring Juno's Impact
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ah we're going to get 80,000 emails from our British listeners being like you idiots.
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You are dum-dums and you also have direct contact with someone that could correct this. Well, he's in England. he will. He'll text me about it a month from ah two months from now. Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:32
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And when he finally listens to this episode and I'll have forgotten about this bit. Did I tell you that my mom, she was listening to the um the Eternity episode and she i had like I called her and she was like, I was just listening to the Eternity episode. She was like, that whole bit that you and Katie did at the beginning of you trying to do math was so funny. I was like, I'm so glad you thought it was a bit. I don't.
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I don't remember and what you're talking about at all. Not a single bit. When we were trying to determine how old the characters were. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, that was totally a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We definitely did that for comedic relief. We're not theater majors who don't know how to add.
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Right? Right. I did say that at the bridal store the other day. with Somebody gave me like a $100 bill and I was like, and I will now produce your change. Don't judge me. I'm going to get the calculator out.
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you You don't have a like your register doesn't do math? Uh, no, because we have just, like, a thing for cards, and then we can just, like, then we just have a cash box. Oh, okay. I see. We're a small business.
00:08:38
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Yeah, okay. All right. Fair Yeah. We're not fancy. Um, uh, Lori's. Famously featured in today's film.
00:08:50
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That's right, guys. Bits are famously. Bits heavily featured. heavily featured in today's film that's right you guessed it this is go get your girl this is the podcast where who do we want to be juno are we combined twin juno i mean pregnant come conjoined twins is crazy though like i mean i mean Conjoined twins in general has like a lot of body horror elements. Yeah. For me. But like pregnant.
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Pregnant. Like. Are there two uteri? In general. I mean, no. and Well, I mean, I guess there's all kinds of different conjoined twins, but like generally, no. Generally, it's. Doesn't that happen in Sideshow though?
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Um, yeah, but they're like, they're still are, i don't remember. i Yeah, I think it did. They're joined at their head. Because one of them was, was, um, oh yeah, they are. Because one of them is, um, was definitely married, right? Yeah. they had, they had two, I guess, right? If they were conjoined at the head.
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yeah So they had two uteri. But like, see, I'm just imagining us as a weird body horror person with two heads. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That kind of conjoined twin exists too. There's the kind that are like, that have, there's the kind that have like, you know, or like the shoulders are connected and stuff. And there's, know, there's kinds of different ones. Yeah, I guess I could have gotten a lot simpler with that. But instead, I'm just imagining one person, two heads. Okay, yeah. I mean, a two-headed person is probably better than, you know...
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ah applying our own ableist horror against, you know, an an actual real thing that occurs in nature. So very true. um So yeah, you guessed it, guys. This is go get your girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie ironically have sex with Michael Cera and then ironically get pregnant. And then ironically can't go through the abortion because of fingernails and then ironically decide that we're just gonna give the baby up for adoption and all along the way we we discover stuff about ah grown-ups and how they're just like us and blah blah blah 2008 nonsense blah blah blah uh yeah um yeah that's right I'm Emma
00:11:09
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And I'm Katie, and today we're talking about the 2007 movie Juno. Ironically. Yeah, it's... It was quite a time. um So this movie is ah directed by Jason Reitman, who, previous to this, had made a movie called Thank You for Smoking, and then after this made Up in the Air... And then he did two more Diablo Cody movies, Young Adult and Tully, both with Charlize Theron, which are okay.
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yeah And then he made decided to make Poop from a Butt for the rest of his career. um oh he made literal Poop from a Butt? He made literal Poop from a Butt. um He made Ghostbusters Afterlife, which
Elliot Page & Juno's Cast
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is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
00:11:55
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Yep, never seen it. um It's really bad. And he made Saturday Night, which I watched about seven minutes of before turning off. That's the Saturday Night Live docu-movie, right? It's so awful. It's so awful. I haven't even tried.
00:12:10
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It's really bad. um Diablo Cody, obviously this is her first screenplay. Really, this was this made her famous. Like this movie this movie was huge, first of all, we should say. was nominated for four Oscars, was nominated for Best Picture, Best Screenplay, Best Actress, and Best...
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picture actress, screenplay director. who's i much best i who um It won screenplay. Diablo Cody won an Oscar for the screenplay. um And she, you know, had this story. She was like a former sex worker and she had gotten the screenplay on the blacklist and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And she, you know, is like a Gen X-y kind of half goth.
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Yeah. that just like Betty Page. Betty Page kind of look. Yeah. Yeah. um And, ah you know, she went on to make several other movies, most recently Lisa Frankenstein, which we like.
00:13:04
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We like. we like it lot. Yeah. um And there's there's a tone to this movie. Yep. It's so ironic. Did you say you hadn't seen this before? i had never seen it all the way through.
00:13:19
Speaker
Okay, yeah. I had not seen this since it came out when I was in okay college. yeah And, like, um here's the thing. Boy, does time really mess with your head. ah Because i can see... Because, like, we were talking... I was talking to this about... With Charlie earlier. And he was really disappointed that this was the movie that we picked for when he was not here. Because he really liked this movie. He really likes this movie.
00:13:44
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um It's good. It's a good movie. Yeah. It's sweet. I mean, it to make yourself, like, take yourself out of it, it's it's a good movie. Yeah. But in the society that we live in today versus the society that we lived in in 2007, which honestly shouldn't be that different.
00:14:04
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It's almost 19 years ago. Yeah. ah But like. Well, here's the thing. I mean, like Trump and Bush were are like. it's it's it's impossible to compare them like we thought we thought we were living in a fascist nightmare in the early 2000s when when bush was president but we had no idea how much no idea no idea least he knew how to do government i mean arguable like i'm not one of those people like i remember when trump got elected there were all these like they're like bumper stickers that had like bush's face on it was like miss me yet And it was like, no, like he was still a bad person and a bad president and did a lot of terrible things. Like, let's not forget that. But comparing the two is still like, like so it's an order of magnitude. yeah He was a dumb, dumb, but like somehow we got dumber.
00:14:57
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. Didn't think it was possible. um But yeah. So like watching it through the 2026 lens, it's sort of like, it gives, if this movie was made today, it would give almost like a trad wife redemption story vibe to it, which I couldn't unsee. Cause like, it's just because the topic of abortion and women's health clinics and um teen pregnancy and sort of the lack of pregnancies going on in, you know, the world, it just sort of,
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Speaker
It's such a polarizing topic that, like, i this movie was so cutting edge for 2007 and so, like, millennial. And now it just sort of, like, the entire time I was watching it, it was just like, this feels like almost like a bash on the... ah on the left like this feels like like i don't know like you could take this as like you know Jason Bateman and um what's her face being those sort of spoiled condescending leftist elite like just like there was so much of it that I was just like this feels like if it it could not get made today it feels so of its time that if it were made today it would send a different message
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Yeah, mean, like, it's definitely, like, super influential in, like, the kind of scripts that got made because it was so successful. Yeah. And I think that, like, you know, that sort of thing, it's, it's it's again, it's hard to see something that was so watershed um outside of its context.
Themes of Teenage Pregnancy
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I don't know if i I don't know if I get the vibe, I got the vibe from it that it's, um...
00:16:52
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That it's like making, that it's, I think, well, let's talk about it as we get to it. Well, let's talk about it as we get. Because I feel like it's more complicated than that. It's way more complicated than that. I just think that like, at the time, this was just like a creative...
00:17:12
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you know, hipster movie. And now i hipster yeah now I feel like if it were made today, some of the themes and some of the messaging would be taken a completely different way.
00:17:26
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It's essentially what i'm saying. Sure. Sure. sure Sure. And I think the minute that she decides not, and I'm, Not to say that all millennials want to go get an abortion. Not to say that, like, all, you know, non-Trump supporters want to go get an abortion. But, like, the minute that she decided not to go through with the abortion, i was just like... oh
00:17:51
Speaker
Well, I mean, you knew that's what the movie was about. No, I know. i know. It's just sort of like the way that it happened. I was just sort of like, oh. I mean, i don't know. I think it's pretty realistic. Like, um it's it's it's scary. ah Yeah, it's very scary.
00:18:09
Speaker
um And I mean, like, yeah, let's just, let's get into it. Okay. Okay. First of all, we're going to make a pronoun acknowledgement. This movie stars Elliot Page, who transitioned and um is a man. um So when we talk about the actor Elliot Page, we will be using him pronouns. When we are talking about the character Juno McGuff, is that what it is? Juno McGuff? Because it sounds fake. Yeah. um ah We will be using she, her pronouns. That is the... Yes.
00:18:43
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the process of the podcast yes and i feel like that's probably fair i've i am such a good ally katie i've got elliot page's dead name until the credits that's great good for you i'm proud of me yeah let's let's start with applauding that yeah i love giving you you a pat on the back emma good job um Yeah, so the movie is divided into like four sections based on the seasons. Oh, we've never seen that before.
00:19:19
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It begins with autumn. Yeah. Well, yeah, let's talk about Elliot Page for a second. Key, have you seen Hard Candy? i oh, i it is on my list. I've listened to a podcast, Break It Down, um but I've not actually seen Hard Candy. It's a rough movie. um That is the movie. I saw that. i remember seeing that in college and it came out before this. Oh.
00:19:49
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Yeah. um So i had I had seen him before in that. Oh, and he wasn't he was in another. He was in X-Men before this. He was in X-Men. I was like, was is this where you're saying how we knew Elliot Page? No, Elliot Page was in X-Men. Elliot Page was in like a thousand other things. yeah Wasn't Elliot Page a child star?
00:20:08
Speaker
No, it's it's pretty much those two things are the only things before this. Oh, OK. Well, Elliot Page was an X-Men. a big Unless you saw a Ghost Cat or Homeless to Harvard. Those were.
00:20:24
Speaker
Nope. Yeah, that was a Lifetime original movie, Homeless to Harvard. oh um yeah canadian uh actor um this was uh this was a very big deal um ah a hard candy is a horror movie we should say about a um sexual predator played by patrick wilson and the teenager who kind of sets a uh a trap for him i remember thinking it was cool but i was also basically a child when i saw it so i could have been wrong um
00:20:55
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So no no strong um a recommendation there. Yeah. Apparently it's still good, according to the horror podcast that I listened to that broke it down.
00:21:07
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But I haven't watched it. Maybe we'll do it for Go Get Your Ghoul. Yeah. um ah Yes. So it's it's kind of, it's one of those things that's like half narrated. There's like a little bit of narration at the beginning and a little bit of narration at the end, but throughout 80% of the movie it doesn't exist. Yep. Yeah. And it's like these two teens who were best friends decided to have sex kind of on a whim, which totally something that happens.
00:21:33
Speaker
yeah um And something that's very of our generation as well. because Yeah, like for sure. yes this This movie reminded me... the irony of being in a millennial of like not of like oh we're not dating we're just sort of like we're friends who just kind of like hook up like I mean like it's just like it's cool we're cool with anything like it's cool like it's fine I don't want to be like I'm I don't want to be too much because I'm a girl so I don't want to like force anyone into a relationship so like it's fine it's cool they can do whatever they want
00:22:06
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yeah And a lot of times that's a symptom of a an abusive relationship. In this case, it is not. It not. Juno and Bleeker are the two most unproblematic teens. Yep. Just...
00:22:23
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Complete sweethearts. They've their hobbies. Yeah, they've got their hobbies. You know, Bleecker's got track. Bleecker's got his guitar. Bleecker's got his orange Tic Tacs. And Juno's got her guitar.
00:22:37
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Juno's got irony. whole thing. Her whole personality she's got going on. Juno's got... Hamburger phone. Jokes. Hamburger phone. Um, ah yeah, so we begin with Juno kind of narrating this little thing where they're like, okay, so we had sex and now she's drinking a gallon of Sunny D. yeah um which man that's a lot of sugar um but the point is it water what we understand is that she's well no water isn't isn't like a cutesy quirky irony pill thing like sunny it had to be sunny d it was sunny d or purple stuff those were the options yep or you who it could have been you who could have been you who yeah
00:23:22
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She drinks a Sobe later. i was like, oh man, remember Sobe? Right? I felt like this movie was sponsored by Sobe. This is like, oh man. What a, yeah, this, this movie, I mean, we've done this, we've done things like this before, but this is such like a time capsule into like people who are our age. Cause like, yeah, it's, yeah.
00:23:43
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Yeah. it's It's a little painful. um And she's taking her third pregnancy test. Rainn Wilson, Dwight from the office, is the um is the proprietor of the convenience store where she's getting her pregnancy tests.
00:23:58
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And he says a lot of things that are just like, none I can't believe we let this in a movie. um He says, your ego is prego. He says, this is one doodle that can't be undid home skillet. And I said, Jesus Christ in my notes.
00:24:15
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What a time. Boy oh boy. She has her third pregnancy test come back positive so she is definitely pregnant. and She is pregnant. She calls her best friend Olivia Thurlby on her hamburger phone and yeah ah fun fact Elliot Page and Olivia Thurlby were dating when this movie was made.
00:24:35
Speaker
what Were they really? yeah I know that they had dated at some point. I didn't know that they were dating during this movie. the making of this movie um Also, how long did it take you to figure out where this movie was set, Emma?
00:24:47
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ah It took me until we saw Bleaker's race car bed. What? What? on his race car bed it had a minnesota license plate and i was like okay because like at first was like where's this and then we saw and then we saw the uh and i was like no way he lives in a different state besides minnesota that has a race car bed with a minnesota license plate yeah we are in minnesota and then it completely covered the entire movie
00:25:21
Speaker
I don't remember if that's before or after um ah Juno says that she went to visit them in St. Cloud. And that's when I was like, okay, so that's Minnesota. I think it's before. Yeah. Cause then I was like, oh yeah. St. Cloud, Minnesota. I know that from Fargo. yeah Yeah, exactly. um It is, um it's shot in Canada, of course, though. so Of course. Everything's shot in Canada. But I mean like Minnesota and Canada, they're the same.
00:25:43
Speaker
Minnesota, perhaps our most Canadian state. Yeah. Yes, exactly. um yes um and uh she says i am for shiz up the spout yep i there's so much so much ironic slang in this some of it is definitely made up and some of it is israel um michael cera says wizard as an exclamation like to mean like cool that was not a thing that's not a thing
00:26:19
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um and yeah we meet bleaker and a well-respected man by the kinks plays and he is he's on the track team and he's uh michael cera and he's the character that michael cera plays he what michael cera does and what michael cera does well which is uh he's an indie little weirdo yeah yeah oh hi oh hi that's my michael cera hi i don't know why i'm turning into ah not michael cera um ah yeah it's he's like i like
Character Dynamics & Societal Norms
00:26:59
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michael cera he's good in a lot of stuff um ah he's um he's a bright spot in an otherwise terrible movie uh the running man did you see the running man I did not see The Running Man. It's really bad. But Michael Cera's got like a... like He's pretty good in like a 10-minute section of it. Well, he's great in the Phoenician scheme.
00:27:18
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I thought he was serious. haven't seen that, yeah. Oh, it's really good. I liked it a lot. I got a Wes Anderson thing. Oh, come on! It's a little too... It's too it's too cute and and like, I don't know. i just Right up my alley. It's like Wes Anderson skater skirts and... ah Listen, we all have a skater skirt.
00:27:41
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And bows in my hair. Yeah. um Just describe Zooey Deschanel. Yeah, that's me. I'm Zooey Deschanel. I'm Zooey Deschanel, too. We're all Zooey Deschanel here. We're all Zooey Deschanel! They go to school. Candice Ackala-King has, like, two lines as their lab partner. Yep.
00:28:05
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who is obviously famous from the vampire diaries. um She has red hair in this, which was strange. And Juno decides she's going to go get an abortion. i'm a And i go take care of it.
00:28:18
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Which is, you know, that's what people do. And and just going this was the first moment where I was just like, okay, this could be, if this was made today, this would be in a very different tone. Um, because I don't know. guess there's been definitely, there's definitely some like, cause, oh, did you see unpregnant?
00:28:38
Speaker
No, but I did see uncommon child. Um, yeah. Uncommon child is, is similar. Yeah. It's, it's, it, the, it's, I don't feel like it's that different. Um, I mean, I'm pregnant is about teenagers.
00:28:51
Speaker
I think that maybe it it was the way that they were like talking about going to get an abortion that I was just like, this, I know is like a conversation that like, I've would be had as a teen. I've heard had friends have as teens, like, yeah you know, and it feels so nonchalant of that time, but because like,
00:29:14
Speaker
I'm just sad that they're getting rid of so many women's health centers in America. Sure. It just makes me really upset. And, like, I just hate for any sort of, like, fodder for the right to use to justify their actions.
00:29:29
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But, like, don't care. People, I mean, again, it's the people choosing not to have an abortion is also fine. Yeah, it's also fine. I think that it was just because of the sort of, it was the way that she, I want to call her Margaret Qualley, but it's not Margaret Qualley.
00:29:49
Speaker
um Who the the the goth nurse at the planned parent No but this is the second movie we've had that goth nurse in um And I'll give you that fact Is it? Yeah she was Eunice in um She's the Man Oh my god look at her Yeah yeah yeah surprise Good job Eunice um But it was the way that um not Margaret Qualley who's her best friend who plays Olivia Thirlby Thirlby olivia thuralby thoroughlby Olivia Thirlby and Margaret Qualley is same person, different font.
00:30:24
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Okay. Fight me on that. mean, one of them is way more famous than the other one and also like full decade younger minimum, but okay.
00:30:33
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But it was like the way that she was just like, okay, well, which one do you want to go to? Do you want to go to this one or do you want to go to that one? Because if you need to go to this one, you need to have, you know, ah something. um Your parents' consent, yeah. Your parents' consent letter. And like, or, you know, I can like totally do this because I did it for so-and-so last year. Like, that's totally fine. It was like the nonchalantness of like the conversation, which like totally is something that has happened and like is totally fair. It just like, feel it felt like,
00:31:02
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if i guess i was watching this through the lens of like if a maga person watching today they'd be like this is why this is why look at them going getting abortions left and right every single day yeah i think that's good though like i think that like movies should piss off uh trump supporters that's what i want i want them to be that was maybe that was the thing that was like going through my brain the entire time maybe it wasn't i understand what you're saying i understand what you're saying it's hard for me to articulate I know I get it. I get it. It's like um you're saying it's like a neoliberal caricature, right? Exactly. like Exactly. It's just that I miss how nonchalantly we could talk about abortions.
00:31:45
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Yeah. Well, you know, everything's worse now. um I miss the simpler times of 2007. Yeah. yeah We all do. We all miss the simpler times 2007. Yeah. We learned a little bit about Juno. um Her mom abandoned them and lives in Arizona with a bunch of half siblings and J.K. Simmons, the great J.K. Simmons is her dad and the great Allison Janney. This cast is fucking stacked, by the way. It's fucking stacked. Yeah.
00:32:17
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um for uh is this searchlight was it is that what it is is it fox searchlight for like a low budget movie like they they did really well i mean the script was huge the script was like i think it was the top of the blacklist maybe it did it was like a big deal yeah um everybody wanted to be in it and um jk simmons and allison janny um are her uh dad and stepmom and they're both so good they're both great yeah and they're so fantastic and they take everything in such like good strides like her stepmom is like the best possible stepmom she could ever have like she loves her like her own daughter they call her june bug and then when she's pregnant it later on they go high high inflated version of june bug yeah
00:33:04
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Yeah, you definitely get where she she gets the way she talks from. Well, it's almost like the screenwriter has all the characters talk the same way in this movie. um ah I mean, except for Jennifer Gardner and Jason Bateman. but Yeah, exactly.
00:33:20
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Yeah, so she goes to the abortion clinic and a girl she knows from high school is protesting. um And she tells her that's like, your baby has fingernails. yeah um And that really haunts Juno. And I, again, I understand what you're saying, but I also get the idea that a 16 year old could be haunted by something like that. Yeah. And I don't think that it's, I don't think that it's inherently like anti-feminist or anti-abortion to like decide to have a baby, you know? I mean, I don't think it is either. I think that- I mean, it is, it's it's about the choice, right?
00:34:00
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It's about the choice. And I think that my whole, the whole thing that I got wrapped around the axle on this was that like, it was such a simpler time that they could make movies about this and they could have it be where 16 is haunted by those choices and it not be political and it not be like such a big deal of like,
00:34:18
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you know, ah like, I just don't think that a movie like that could get made today because they would be like, look at this liberal fodder, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. I don't think that, I don't think that's true. I don't think that, I don't think that that Hollywood is, is shying away from stuff like that. At least, you know, non, um,
00:34:40
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I mean, I guess we'll see now that Trump owns Warner Brothers. I was going to say, tell me one movie that was made about an abortion, positive film about an abortion that was made during the Trump administration.
00:34:52
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Unpregnant.
00:34:55
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When was that made? 2019, maybe? Let's see. Unpregnant. 2020. Came out in 2020. So yeah, 2019. Okay. um I feel like there was another one that came out around the same time, too.
00:35:08
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um yeah plan b never going back god damn it um
00:35:18
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um ah what is never regularly sometimes always about that's not a comedy but um yeah that's about yeah that's about how she can't get an abortion in pennsylvania without parental consent so it's a whole thing that's a that's a very upsetting movie i haven't seen it from what i understand but yeah that was also yeah so yeah I don't know. I think that like, i just was so wrapped around the axle of like, I miss the simpler times when like this would not be so political.
00:35:49
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Yeah. Yeah. um Speaking of political, there is like an undercurrent of homophobia in this, which is, you know, I guess accurate for 2007. Yeah. yeah ah There's a couple of lines that are like, oh, okay. interesting that you would say that. um ah One of them is ah when um that they say that they want to name the baby Madison and Juno goes, isn't that a little gay?
00:36:16
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Yeah, right? Yeah. right Sorry, Madison Smith. ah So sorry, Madison. All of our Madison listeners. Yeah. I mean, it's fine to be gay, but like the the the idea that the name Madison is inherently gay is like just a very surprising thing to say. Like, don't know what's gay about that.
00:36:35
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If anything we've learned, the name Madison is inherently mermaid. It is. Yes. It's inherently mermaid. If it's going to be inherently anything. Yeah.
00:36:46
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And, yeah, so she says she wants to to give the baby up for adoption, maybe meet some nice lesbos, she says. yeah um And she finds an ad for a private adoption ad from ah um jason jason Garner and for Bateman.
00:37:05
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The great Jennifer Garner and the great Jason Bateman um love both of them so much. um so great And they are this rich, like kind of yuppie couple who won't have a baby. No kids.
00:37:20
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Or at least Jennifer Garner wants to have a baby. Yeah. Jennifer Garner really wants to have a baby. Jennifer Garner has wanted to have a baby ah for a long time, which was like a really emotional. I mean, I'm not saying I didn't cry this movie. I cried this movie. sure And like,
00:37:36
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it's such like a true thing of like you know you get with your partner um when you're young and you both have dreams and then you sort of like as you get older you realize oh no wait I do want to become a parent and then but ah only one of you has that sort of and like feeling or that spark and before like one of you has it before the other one does it's just sort of like everybody's biological clocks are different yeah um Jennifer Garner, we should say, is 35 in this movie. She's a baby.
00:38:10
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Jason Bateman is like maybe 37 or so. I didn't look him up. um But ah yeah, and they, um she, oh, well, first of all, she tells her parents. Yeah.
00:38:24
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And they're surprisingly cool about it. I mean, they're okay about it. J.K. Simmons says, i didn't think you were the kind of girl that this would happen to. And Juno says, i don't think I know what kind of girl I am, which is very, like, ah it hits hard. um ah Her little baby sister's name is Liberty Bell.
00:38:45
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Liberty Bell! It's terrible. Liberty Bell! They shouldn't be allowed to name their kids Juno and Liberty Bell. um No. No. She goes to, oh, woods speaking of which, and so jason she goes to meet Jason Bateman and and Jennifer Garner, and Jason Bateman goes, oh, like the city in Alaska. And she's like, nope. It's the goddess of childbirth, Juno.
00:39:04
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little on the nose there, Diablo, but okay. Oh, buddy! Ding, dang ding, ding. um ah Yeah, so they go, J.K. Simmons and Juno um go, just mix the characters and actors up. Yep.
00:39:18
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Go to see them in their, like, fancy house, and juno you know, quirks it up with them yep and um they're like you know you try to be like do you want to have like an open adoption she's like well let's not mean and uh they're like well basically the family will send you updates and let you know about the baby as you know it grows up and so that way you can like feel like you're still a part of it um and she goes no absolutely not let's do this old school style no contact can i just give you the baby and i just put it in a little um a little basket and just give it to you a la moses yeah um it's yeah it's very much like she is very disconnected from it um at the beginning for sure yeah um ah and and we realize that jason bateman definitely doesn't want a kid because he's a child who yeah has um this like weird relationship with her like there's a lot of like things that are unsaid in this movie that i think are are hinted at for sure yeah um the first thing is like junia goes to the bathroom and jason bateman sees her in the hallway and then she's like oh is that a les paul and like he's got his like little guitar room yeah um
00:40:38
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He's a
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00:40:39
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composer. He writes like advertising jingles and shit. um But he wanted he wanted to be a rock star and he has this kind of like chip on his shoulder about it. Yeah. And um oh, she she steals Jennifer Garner's perfume and she's like, I stole a squirt of her Clinique Happy. I'm like, oh, remember Clinique Happy? remember Clinique Happy. What a time. was everywhere. oh Every single magazine reeked of it. Yeah. um And then like Jennifer Garner finds the two of them singing doll parts together. yeah um
00:41:14
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And she's like, we have things to do. And it's a, it's a, it's a fun like characterization because they set up Jason Bateman to be the one that she bonds with and likes. And Jennifer Garner is this like all business, no fun and like kind of personality. But the thing is like, you know, that turns sinister, of course, yeah because he's a piece of shit and she's a really good person. And the way that like a 16 year old perceives that is shown really, really nicely in this movie. I agree. I think that like, cause it's just like, Oh, you immediately bond with the, with like the fun one, one who want wants to hang out with you and just like do nonsense stuff and like, blah, blah, blah.
00:42:02
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Um, without like thinking about, you know, this one, who's going to be the parent in this relationship. And not only that, but like, what is this man doing, like, yeah hanging out with a 16-year-old like this? Yeah, yeah exactly. um Which she has no under she has no understanding of, um at least at first, yeah.
00:42:26
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And then it's winter. And she's prego. and she's prego Yeah, and it is like, and Michael Cera is not involved. I mean, she told him at the very beginning, um and he's like, well, what are we going to do? And she's like, don't worry, I'll take care of it. And then, of course, she doesn't, and then, like,
00:42:47
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he's not involved um she sees him and it's like going to the ultrasound and he's like can i come and she's like no no go do this dumb thing and don't worry about it yeah go be a high schooler like she keeps pushing him away because she doesn't want him to like feel obligated to be a part of to like be in a relationship with her because she's pregnant with his child or to like grasp grasp any sort of like attachment to this baby because this baby is going away Yes, that's that's part of it. And it's also like like she's distanced from everything.
00:43:19
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um she did That ironic distance is kind of like the heart of this movie. And her like kind of attaching herself to to something in a non-ironic way is is like her character arc, um which is what makes all the the quirky bullshit in this movie tolerable, I think. Yeah, exactly. Because that's just Duno.
00:43:44
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Yeah. um ah so they go to get the ultrasound. The ultrasound tech is, ah you know, borderline fireable offense, um unprofessional and shitty to them.
00:43:56
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She says, oh be um if she's like doing the ultrasound. She's like giving like super judgy eyes to Juno and her like stepmom and her friend.
00:44:06
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And um then Juno lets it like slip that, you know, they're gonna, that this baby's gonna be up for adoption. And she goes, oh, thank goodness. And they're like, what do you mean by that?
00:44:18
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And she's like, well, i just I see a lot of like pregnant moms, like pregnant teen moms, pregnant moms. Oh, yeah. I see a lot of teen moms. And um it's just like it's a really toxic environment. And then the wonderful stepmom.
00:44:37
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goes off on her and defends Juno's honor and she's just like apparently so much show so off camera that they have to be escorted out by security which is I mean like you know we don't hear all of what she said to her I guess but like there's there's no way and like if you had told the the that the the ultrasound tech's boss that you'd been treated that way by her, that would have been a big deal. i'm like And I'm sure it happens. I'm sure that like, there are lots of snide remarks made by professionals at, at teenage pregnant girls, but like, that is completely unacceptable.
00:45:15
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um She tells her to stick to what she's good at and go back to community college and and find another trade. You're an ultrasound tech. Well, I'm a nail tech. Why don't we both stick to what we're good at? Yeah, that's what she does. Yeah.
00:45:30
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um and she goes to see jason bateman alone um because jennifer garner's not there and he works from home and he is not impressed by the ultrasound he wants to play her sonic youth covering the carpenters because course he first red flag he just looks at the ultrasound and he's like huh anyways you want to listen to this weird music and watch this weird horror film he has no yeah He has no connection to this kid. He definitely doesn't want to to have this kid. And um he wants to like you know hang out and do cute stuff with a 16-year-old girl because he's fucking creep. know um
00:46:08
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That said, um the the ah the Sonic Youth hate in this movie is misplaced. Oh, I just have to let you know, I got another Sonic Youth CD and it sucked. sucked.
00:46:25
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It's just noise, ah which is reasonable. Like it's fine. I mean, honest obviously, you know, Sonic Youth gave the permission to play the song in this and they are in on the joke were fine with, with, with that. Like it's, it's fine. Yeah. Um, and Sonic Youth rules. Let's, you know, Kim Gordon rules. Uh, Kim Gordon just had a solo record come out a few months ago. She's fucking 70 and, um, like the, still the fucking queen, yeah um,
00:46:53
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It's great. um Anyway, neither here nor there. ah Sonic Youth's cover of Superstar by the Carpenters is really cool. um And then they watch some 70s horror movie and... um They talk about music and he's going to make her a mixtape and like, it's all just starting to get uncomfy. Where you're just like, oh.
00:47:16
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Yeah. um And ah yeah. Oh yeah. She says, she says Juno was Zeus's wife. first of all, Juno wasn't Zeus's wife. Juno was Jupiter's wife. Juno is the Roman version of Hera, who was Zeus's wife. let's just And this was a mythology corner, mythology corner with Katie.
00:47:38
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Yeah, that's a good one. We haven't had any Jake in a while. Just like Jason. But I'm bummed. Juno, Juno describes Juno slash Hera as really beautiful, but really mean like Diana Ross, which is is great.
00:47:53
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Which is sick. And then Jason Bateman goes like you. and I'm like, okay. And like, I think she starts to get uncomfortable yeah at that point. i think it's saved by the bell. Yeah.
00:48:04
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Well, and Jennifer Garner, like, comes in and they so she shows them, like, all of the um the stuff that they've got for the baby. And Juno's like, don't you have a shower? shouldn you have a shower? And she's like, well, we our friends aren't going to throw us a shower because nothing's set in stone. And we find out that they had gone through all of this previously with somebody who, at the last minute, decided to keep the baby, which is the law. um You know, mothers are allowed to do that. um Yeah, change their mind. Yeah, and it happens all the time.
00:48:33
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Which is... Yeah, of course. But it's very, very sad for Jennifer Garner. And it happens all the time. It was a storyline on Modern Family.
00:48:43
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Sure. I didn't watch that far into into Modern Family. Then she has a conversation with Allison Janney where she explains what she did. And she's like you can't do that. She's like, you can't just drop in on them. Like, you can't. what are you alone with this man and his is married man in his house? And Juno's like, it's not go not like that. And she's like, no, it is. You don't understand. yeah Because you're a child and Juno thinks she's overreacting.
00:49:10
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Yeah. It was like a teensy bit preachy, but it was also 2007.
00:49:16
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Yeah. But it's also like a conversation you probably have to have with a 16 year old girl, you know, if, if you find out she's doing that, like, because like, I, Until the last scene, like, I don't think she has any idea of what's happening between her and Jason Bateman. has no clue. But, yeah, it's just, and it's something that, you know, people aren't aware of sometimes. I mean, like,
00:49:43
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You know, it's especially someone who is kind of divorced from ah her sexuality and, you know, relationships in general, like Juno is, you know. Yeah. Juno is not a sexual person in any way, shape or form, which is why it's ironic that she gets knocked up.
00:50:02
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That's kind of the that's kind of the hook of the movie. Yes. What if the least likely girl in your high school got i mean, that's always how it was. Really? Not in my high school. The girls that got pregnant in my high school were the ones you thought. In my high school, it was not the person that you thought.
00:50:22
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Yeah. Really? And also, if you got pregnant in my high school, you got um expelled.
00:50:29
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Oh, right. Of course. Because um Christian high school for rich kids in Texas. Yeah. Um, she goes to see Bleecker and Bleecker's mom does not like Juno. Bleecker's mom really does not like Juno. And she also says something mean whenever we meet Bleecker's mom, which is she goes, this is Bleecker's mom. You can tell that like once upon a time she was really pretty, but now she just kind of looks like one a hobbit, like one of the fat hobbits.
00:50:56
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And I was just like, that's so mean. She looks the fat hobbit who was in the Goonies. So mean. That's the kind of thing you wouldn't see in a screenplay nowadays. True, true, true, true.
00:51:08
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Or the name Madison isn't that kind of gay. Like, those are the things that aren't going to get made in movies now. Yeah. um But they have this really sweet scene where um she is, like, hanging out with him. and And he's like, you know, maybe, you know, when this is over, we should get the band back together. Or maybe we could get back together. Yeah.
00:51:28
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And she's like, oh, were we together? And we're just like friends. And he's like, no, I like people. she's like, you know what? You should hang out with this other girl. um And we see this bit with Jason Bateman and Jennifer Garner where she's talking about all this stuff. And we find out that he hasn't read What to Expect, which is like, what are you doing, dude? And she just wants to know if she could have, if she should paint the wall custard or what was the other color?
00:51:58
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Um, oh, it's either custard It's custard or something else. I don't remember. It's two different shades of yellow. goes Um, yeah. Which is probably the right move. Um, the one on the left was the better one. I don't remember the one on Yeah, too.
00:52:14
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um ah But yeah and he's like you haven't read what to expect when you're expecting like seriously Like what's wrong with you He's such a piece of shit And he's just like um And he's so charming and hot And he keeps like dragging his feet with everything And you're like well then why did you go through the effort Of putting because it's you're led to believe He put the ad in the penny saver Like Yeah yeah because And he's like I just thought more time would happen I thought we'd have more time and I you know what if I'm not ready And she's like what the fuck is the matter with yeah you? yeah
00:52:47
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Um, ah they, um, Olivia Thirlby, whose name I don't, um character's name I don't remember, and, Elliot Page are at the, the mall, and they see Jennifer Garner's, like, playing with, uh, a friend of hers' kid and like, the playground, and it's just so sweet. It's so sweet. And also, i love remember malls? And the baby is God, I love malls.
00:53:12
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Um, uh, The baby is, so Jennifer Garner meets them and the baby is kicking and Jennifer Garner puts her hand on it and the baby stops kicking and Juno's like, why don't you talk to it? And Jennifer Garner like talks to the baby and it starts to kick. It's so sweet. It's so fucking cute.
00:53:27
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I love Jennifer Garner. Jennifer Garner's an underrated actress. um i I wish that she would do things that were better, but you know, she has kids and she has a very lucrative Instagram
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00:53:38
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career. So, um,
00:53:40
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Happy for her. I think she's, again, we don't know, but I have a feeling that she's a good person. She seems like a really yeah. She does. She seems like the best. She's supposed to bake her little things in her kitchen and hang out with her cats and her kids. That's what she does to do. And like her ex is a nightmare and like she takes she takes care of him and like she cares about him still. Oh, here's a fun fact.
00:54:04
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um This is Emma's fun facts. Emma's fun facts. Not related to the movie. um So her and Ben Affleck's daughter is at Yale right now. Okay, Emma. Okay.
00:54:16
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okay i'm off wonder how she got in um but so my friends i have friends that sp with and you know we have a thousand different jobs because we're all actors and they all work at the same fancy restaurant in new haven and ben affleck came in to have dinner with his daughter and yeah he said uh ben affleck surprisingly drinks way too much Diet Coke. Like, more Diet Coke than I thought a human should ever and like to put into their body. Like, too much Diet Coke. Like, this man was gurgling Diet Coke.
00:55:00
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I mean, that's I think that's the... and That's true of a lot of um you know addicts and alcoholics and stuff. you know They have to find something else to overindulge. The way that he was describing it, it felt like he, Ben Affleck had a glass of Diet Coke, a carafe of Diet Coke, and they were just constantly refilling them.
00:55:21
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A magnum of Diet Coke. Just so much fucking Diet Coke. Like an insane amount of Diet Coke. Yeah, so now it's spring And they're playing Belle and Sebastian Because of course they are One of the two Belle and Sebastian songs Basically back to back thought there'd be more Belle and Sebastian in this Pretty eye-rolled Listen, listen We love and Sebastian on this podcast. We love at least their first four albums. Like after, um what is it, Dear Catastrophe Waitress, like things start to fall off a little bit. No, no, no, no, no. What's the one after Dear Catastrophe Waitress? That one's really good too. God Help the Girl was really good. That's the one.
00:56:04
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i never saw God the Oh, it's so good. I mean, we'll do it on this podcast. i ah You can twist it yeah to make it. one to Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:14
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Um, ah because yeah, whatever the one after Dear Catastrophe Righteous, that's what would have been out when this movie came out.
00:56:24
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No, the Life Pursuit. The Life Pursuit is what I'm thinking of. That's got, It's the one with the pizza. Oh, Pizza New York Catcher. Oh, Mike Piazza New York Catcher? That's the song that plays in this movie, yeah.
00:56:41
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What's the pizza one?
00:56:45
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um ah Yeah, but Piazza New York Catcher is off of Dear Catastrophe Waitress, um which is the song that plays in this. Yeah, The Life Pursuit's good. Yeah, Life Pursuit's good. The Girls in Peace Wanna Dance is pretty good, too.
00:56:59
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Is it the pink one? No, it's the gray one.
00:57:03
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Interesting. yeah I don't know that one very much. I stopped listening to them after a while. I mean, theyre they start get pretty same. Yeah, it's pretty much the same. It's... that' But um if you're feeling sinister, Masterpiece, 10 out of 10.
00:57:15
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Yeah. Dear Kadastri Re-Wastress was like an album of my like high school days. Like that... Yes, big time. That was... That song and that album, I love. And it just it brings me back to like 2004. Yeah, it's really... It's good. It's like...
00:57:36
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ah we just thought life was going to be so much simpler. than Where we can make movies about not getting abortions and not feel weird about it.
00:57:46
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I don't feel weird about it.
00:57:50
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think I just thought way too hard while watching this movie. Probably, probably. um She's going to make him, she's going to make fucking Jason Bateman a mix CD. It's not normal. Which is weird.
00:58:03
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She just wants to talk to him because she just wants to hang out with him. She finds out that Bleeker is going to go to prom with Katrina DeVort, who has permanent stink eye, which is, I did laugh out loud, where he's like, it's just her face looks like that, and it cuts to this girl who's going like...
00:58:24
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yep And um not only is he going to prom with her he's going taking her to Benihana, then to prom, and then to TJ's parents' lake house.
00:58:36
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Sorry, VJ's parents' lake house. So very high school. It's very high school. um Look, we all went to VJ's parents' lake house after prom. um Well, for me, it Stacey Hawks' house after prom.
00:58:52
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Shout out Stacey Hawk. I hope your name is still Stacey Hawk.
00:58:58
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ah It's not. She got married pretty much right out of college. She didn't keep her name? I don't know. She didn't. That's like a superhero name.
00:59:10
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I know. It's cool. I don't know if they're still married or not. I you know got rid of Facebook almost a decade ago. So I don't know anything else. Yeah.
00:59:21
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anyway shout out stacy hawk um ah she drove a yellow jeep wrangler too which was very cool um and she had very cool parents and we had lot of parties of her um older than i get the more and more that we talk about living life in 2004 it feels like whenever we were in high school and hear people talk about high school in the eighty s yeah well i was about to say like we watched the survivor finale the first season survivor finale at Stacey Hawks house i'm like oh god I'm a thousand years old yep like the more and more I'm just like god we sound like someone being like yeah and then I totally like remember when we listened to oh my god to oh I can't even like name a pop star from the right now
01:00:10
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right now Madonna. Madonna. And we like listened to Madonna and like we i mean had our- I mean, Madonna and Bella and Sebastian, pretty much the same thing. Yeah. I was trying to think of who is that redhead? Tiffany.
01:00:23
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Tiffany. Tiffany, yeah. In the malls. Yeah.
01:00:28
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Um, ah yeah, so, um and this is when Bleecker says, you broke my heart, um and you got bored. Yep. And basically he's trying to get her to admit that she likes him and she won't do it. yeah So instead, she puts on lipstick and goes to Jason Bateman's house, which is...
01:00:49
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Like, and here's the thing, like, she knows what she's doing now. Like, it is, it's, I think it's, it's definitely like a bit of self-harm, intentional, like, I'm going to put my hand on the stove. yeah And like, it's a little bit like she's mad at bleaker and she's but she's definitely like doing it to it's something or I'm not saying that it's it's her fault. I'm just saying that like, she is definitely like semi aware of what she's doing. yeah Yeah, she wants to feel good. And she knows that she feels good if she goes and hangs out with Jason Bateman because right now and she thinks that he's cool and hot, which he is. yes
01:01:29
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Well, he's not cool. He's a piece of shit. But right now we think that he's cool. Well, right now think she still does. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Let me change that. um And this is where she's like, is Vanessa here? And he goes, no we're safe. I'm like, oh, get out of there.
01:01:46
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Don't like. He gives her a comic of a Japanese pregnant superhero, which is very cool. um And she plays Mata Hoople, which is like, obviously a song he knows, like it's very popular song. And then they start to dance, um which is just real bad. And then he's like, I'm leaving Vanessa. And that's when it finally like clicks for her, like what she's doing and what she's kind of like fallen into.
01:02:15
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And she's like, Jesus Christ, you're supposed to take care of this baby. And he's like, you know, the baby was supposed to fix us. Oh, something else earlier. um Oh, no, this it's this scene. It's this scene where she she runs upstairs and Vanessa's there and she's crying and she looks at him and goes, what did you do? yeah And it's like, this is not the first time this has happened. Like, there is very obviously this thing between them where she knows that he shouldn't be alone with a 16-year-old girl.
01:02:44
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Which is like... you gotta get away from this dude. Yeah. This guy's not good. Not good. Yeah. She tells him that she likes being a piece of furniture in his weird life, which is like really evocative of like what she's doing and why she's there yeah for sure. Yeah.
01:03:02
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And reminds me that I want a dollhouse for my creepy doll room.
01:03:09
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I have a dollhouse. I have two dollhouses. They're at my parents' house. And I want them surprise creepy for my creepy doll room. Listen, when I come to visit you, I can't sleep in this creepy doll room. Well, you am lucky for you that the guest room is Charlie's office, so it's creepy penguin room.
01:03:28
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Okay. That's less creepy, I suppose. it's pe Their eyes are less real. Yep. Okay. Lots and lots of penguins. I mean, i don't have of my creepy dolls yet, so.
01:03:42
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Good, good. You should not do that. this is when she said she bought another sonic youth record and it sucks yeah um ah and uh this is uh where they have this big blowout and he's like i'm not ready to have a kid and she's like you're a fucking asshole and he's like i've already found a place and like like like he's saying like almost like he's like i've already found a place for us which is like yeah he doesn't say that and i don't think he even thinks that, but it's definitely like, it's there's an implication, yeah.
01:04:18
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um juno leaves and they're like okay let's get divorced like real fast he comes downstairs like 20 minutes later and he's like okay well uh our lawyer can uh can represent both of us and we're gonna have a you know conscience conscious uncoupling they yeah basically uh that was and she says well aren't you a cool guy like yeah get his ass yeah yeah and she's like do you uh do you have somewhere to stay and he's like yeah i've already got a place and she's like like a hotel and he's like no no a loft and that's when she was aren't you a cool guy aren't you a cool guy yeah what a piece of shit hate this motherfucker in his loft and think loud yeah um well okay so when i touched my earbud this time it started playing thundercat because i've
01:05:09
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It's my library has switched from alphabetical to um recent editions. Okay. So you added Thundercats. Thundercats new record. Yeah. You know Thundercat the like, he's like a R&B like soul. Oh, I thought Thundercat like the cartoon.
01:05:27
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What about me makes you think that I'd be listening to Thundercats. You're sitting in front of a poster of Daffy Duck. Okay. First of all. That's Scrooge McDuck. Sorry. That is not Daffy Duck. That is Scrooge McDuck. Big difference.
01:05:44
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Huge. Huge. Big mistake. Big mistake. Huge. of a Can't believe you would slander Carl Barks that way. Well, I'm sorry.
01:05:58
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so uh she Juno leaves them a note which we don't see and um she goes to see her dad and she's like can two people stay together for good because then you have to remember that her mom abandoned her she's got messed up views of relationships yeah she wants to know if a stable relationship is possible and JK Simmons like is trying to talk to her about like, set trying to be there. Like i will be there for you. I am a stable relationship. am your father. I love you. And I will always be there for you. But what he's really doing is giving her the go get your boy speech about bleaker. Right. and Which is does not very sweet. right it's very very sweet very very sweet yeah and also like him and alice and jenny are an excellent like yeah such a stable relationship and they're so cute they are yeah she's so obsessed with dogs we didn't mention that she's so upset she can't have a dog because juno's allergic to their saliva yeah
01:07:01
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um ah and uh so she buys bleaker a bunch of tic tacs and meets him at the on the track and she says i think i'm in love with you and he goes you meet us friends oh such a 2007 thing um and she's like you're so cool and you don't even try and he goes i try really hard actually i'm like that is so true that is like so high school like this is Is this the first movie that is about high schoolers that were that are our age? Or have we done one before? Because I think the other high school movies we've done are either like older or younger than us.
01:07:40
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But this is like pretty much right. I mean, I was in college when this movie came out, but really close. yeah It was the same generation of high school, for sure. Yeah, because we haven't done Mean Girls. We haven't done Mean Girls. We've done Easy a Those are both millennial high school movies. yeah I think so.
01:07:58
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Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, uh, he's, she says, when I see you, the baby starts kicking really hard. She's like, you're golden man. And he goes, can we make out now? Oh, hell yeah.
01:08:11
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Um, uh, and then, ah ah another scene happens and her water breaks and they go to have the baby and it's playing. Oh, also we should say Kimya Dawson did all the songs for this, the moldy peaches.
01:08:23
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So there are the other songs, the soundtrack songs which we played, but there's also a lot of Moldy Peaches, yeah which is, again, just extremely twee 2007. This album was its like own like phenomenon.
01:08:35
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it starts playing Anyone Else But You, which is the Moldy Peaches' most famous song. um ah And she has the baby.
01:08:46
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And um she doesn't tell Bleeker. But he just knows. Well, he knows because, like, he, it's, no, I guess he just knows, right? Or it's because she's not there, maybe? Yeah. He, like, he finishes his race. She didn't tell Bleeker because he had a really big track meet, and she didn't want to, like, spoil it for him.
01:09:07
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and But he, like, finishes the track meet, and he just sort of, like, doesn't stop running. And he's just, like, he just sort of inherently knows is sort of what the implication is.
01:09:18
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and she chooses not to see the baby he comes he doesn't want to see the baby they have this very sweet scene where they're just he's just sort of holding her in the hospital bed while she's crying and then you see jennifer garner um going to meet her son and it's i think that's that's when i really started crying yeah it's um uh jk simmons says someday you'll be back here on your own terms um and we yeah uh cat power is singing sea of love which is really good and uh vanessa is holding her son and alice and janny is there with her and then we see the note that she left them which uh jennifer garner framed which says if you're still in i'm still in yes juno then it cuts to summer where she's like a teenage girl again and she gets her guitar And she rides her bike to Bleecker's house and then they sing the Moldy Peaches song, Anyone But You. and da and da da ah by
01:10:24
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Notably leaving out the verse which where one of them shits their pants. yeah um Which is something that you can never forget about that song. Yep. But you do see as she's leaving with her bike to go play her guitar with Bleecker, Allison Jenny's gotten the dog.
01:10:42
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A Weimaraner, yeah. It's very sweet. Yeah. And that's Juno. That's Juno. Yeah. Very sweet. Don't think too hard about it. Wizard. emma
01:10:56
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Yeah, it's hard. Anything with an abortion clinic scene is going to be hard not to... It's going to be polarizing, you know, in some way, in some way, in some way. Start to think, politicizing. Yeah, which is... I think that I had forgotten that once upon a time we could have that.
01:11:14
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And make a joke out of the, like, the people with signs out front. You know? Yeah, well... What a time.
01:11:26
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What a time move time. Well, next week we're going to go in a very different direction. um Where are we going next week? Because I was just like, I was thinking and everything that I wanted to do was like a a high school movie. I was like, we need to take a break from high school.
01:11:39
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Like I can't. it's High school kids.
01:11:44
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um So ah instead we are, we're grownups now. Working our dream jobs, um or at least what we thought was going to be our dream jobs.
01:11:55
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And we're Devil Wears Prada-ing Oh, hell yeah. Actually, you know, that's really good because it's going to come out on May 10th. Yeah. And I believe Devil Wears Prada 2 comes out very close to that. May 10th? Oh, yeah. Oh, brilliant. So great synergy. right Well, it's because it was like all over all of my socials.
01:12:17
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It comes out May 1st. Because they're doing the press tour right now. And I was like, I really want to watch Devil Wears Prada. Yeah. so um It's a great movie. um I mean, the ROM and the common, it's very toxic, but we'll talk about it.
01:12:30
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Yeah, it's not really a ROM, but it's that's fine. Somebody did the ROM pop about your career.
01:12:37
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Yeah, I guess. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, your video came back. You've been frozen for like 45 minutes. Oh my God. Yeah. I just didn't want to get into it because it doesn't matter. But like, yeah.
01:12:54
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So glad that you can see my face move now. Yeah. Super. Well, shall we outro? Let's outro. Let's outro.
01:13:03
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01:13:18
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01:13:31
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01:13:47
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