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Glick's House of Music: Walker Tex Music
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Glick welcomes outlaw country musicians Walker Tex Music into the House of Music come hangout for some great conversation and even better music
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The Unifying Power of Music
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Strings and drums in harmony Voices rise in sweet delight
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Music a vibrant call for one and all to give their all in this sanctuary where dreams ignite music's power.
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Rockin' interviews, stories shared.
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From soulful whispers to roaring sound. Music unites on HelloGrow.
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house of music, a place to be for every heart, wild and free. Music's embrace forever strong, a symphony of life all night long.
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Catching us, my friends. I got. I got.
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I never.
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I got, got them old days on my mind. got, got, got them old days.
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I'll just for the week it'll make you grist. Take you to a place where you think you had it best.
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I got them. I got them. I got them all day.
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What is going on, everybody? Happy fucking Tuesday. Welcome to Glick's House of
Introducing Walker Tex and Social Media Promotions
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Music. You know who I am. I put the Glick in Glick's House of Music. I am Glick.
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You guys should know that by now. but But if you don't, now you do. Anyways, it is Glick's House of Music. It's Tuesday night. We got a guest hanging out with us tonight. You heard him right there.
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Walker Tech's music is in the building. We'll get right there in just a second. But if you're not already, go ahead and check us out everywhere. Facebook, Instagram, X, and TikTok. Shows are live all the time on our YouTube, Facebook, and Twitch channel. We got the chatter's box always open. You guys are welcome to jump in there and chit-chat with us.
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And you can listen wherever you listen to podcasts at. All at the Nonsensical Network or simply go to bio.link slash nonsensicalnetwork. It's scrolling down there at the bottom of the screen. If you see my man blazing the chatterbox, smash that like button.
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Press that subscribe. Leave a fucking comment. Share us out to your homies. And don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, as always, nine out of ten grannies do ah approve.
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And with that being said, enough talk about me, enough talk about us. Let's go ahead and get to our guests.
Living in Ireland and Musical Influences
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And with a name like Walker Tex.
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What is going on? I wish, I wish, I wish I lived up to the name. How are we doing? What's going on, brother? I appreciate you coming on.
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I know it's in the middle of the night or the wee hours of the night out there. We're in your neck of the woods. It is way past that midnight hour out here all the way in Ireland, man.
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yes It's all good. I love it. I love it. I love that guests coming in from all over the world. I'm getting to hang out with so many different people. Like I said, your style of music. we Oh, thanks, buddy. We started chit-chatting.
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And I would have just assumed Texas, Nashville, something like that. it that's it it's it's ah It's a good thing and a curse at the same time.
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but yeah, they we get talking and schedule it. and It's like, I'm five hours ahead of you. I'm like, cool what where the hell are you at? Where's guy coming from? Yeah.
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So I would have gladly done the done the show a little bit earlier or done it a different day, but he was like, Nah, man, I'm a fucking rock star. We got this. I don't like it. It's not that it's not like I want to be a rock star and like that. And i I don't always stay up late. I just I hate being a hassle for other people. We never already got like a time slot or something organized. just like yeah I can make work.
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It's cool. It's a pleasure to be invited anyways. So I'm like, let's let's just make it work. I'm just happy to be here. Absolutely. I've become a fan. I'm becoming a fan.
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ah More of a man You know you got you got your guys's stuff and That you guys do but you've You've also done a couple pretty interesting covers Yeah, we done so with We should probably mention that Wilson Lyons is actually in his bed right now.
Covering Songs with a Unique Twist
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So everybody has to bombard him with DMs and be like, it would have been a waste, man. So I should start messaging him while we're Blow up his phone while we're chatting. yeah but um
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Yeah, you did you did a really cool cover of Sweet Child of Mine and then kind of ah almost like a reimagination or I wouldn't call it 100% a cover of Country Roads.
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that's That's the debate that's going on right now, and that's why it hasn't been released. Because, again, the politeness in me is like, oh, we've got to get permission. And then the the bad side is like, fuck it. Just release it and see what happens. But, yeah, we decided to take a i don't know, a darker twist. You've heard our music. We're happy, fun-loving guys, you know.
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But we definitely took a dark twist. Yeah. And it was just based off like we hear that song. It was a great song, but it's been played so much over the years.
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and Like for us, we're like, we don't really want to go back to where we came from. And I was like, well, what about all the folks that feel the same way? They need to hear a darker side to this. And that's that's where came up with it. Put it into a minor kind of progression for any of the guitar aficionados that are checking it.
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um And then changed some of the lyrics. And yeah, that's that's what gave us country roads, not as you remember it. Yeah. but good I like that. I like that explanation kind of.
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those who had to go back but didn't want to or don't want to or, you know, whatever the case may be because we were kind of talking about that literally backstage before we came up. So... We've done some good...
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i went we've done some good ah covers here and there it's just little like fillers you know we'll we'll get taken in the moment and like we're big like me and wilson we're big metalheads growing up hair metalheads as well so like we've got a good range of music that influenced us so you'll always see these random songs creeping in every now and again hell yeah so your guys's style of music i've been calling it outlaw country ah
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I see it. You know, yeah like you got that little bit of a darker, a little edgier side, you know, a little, you know, like you said, I wouldn't call it like a rock country mix, but definitely along those lines of like the old school, yeah walls so to say, where would you classify it? Or what would you categorize it as?
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This is another debate that I, like a lot of folks in in the music scene and especially for like when we're reaching out to radio folks or like trying to get played or reaching out for gigs like the first thing they want to know is like well what genre are you and i'm like and i just take it on what other people's perception of the genre is like i would happily say it's outlaw dark country like singer songwriters sometimes like like it fits into those three camps in my head but some people like they need to like
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they really have a ah crawl on them about like what the genre is specifically. So I don't know. I get into i get into some debates here and there where I'm like, call it what you want. It's all good. It's just yeah what we want.
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But Outlaw is what we're aiming for. So if we hit it, then I'm happy with that. Yeah. Yeah, you get into some of these clubs who are, you know, they're kind of genre specific. And it happens in the States, too.
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yeah you have You have some clubs that are just like, you know, we're a rock club or we're this club or that club. And then, you know, when when you're when they're you're trying to schedule, you're like, I just want to come and play my fucking songs, man. Call me whatever you want to call me. like Don't cook us for kids' birthday parties, but we're that kind of music.
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Yeah. do we definitely made for adults um yeah i i can dig it i can dig it man um what's uh you know i want to dive into some of your music but i'm i'm really curious because you kind of brought it up what is the music scene like for for you guys out there in your part of the world i think I've traveled around quite a lot and seen kind of different scenes around Europe as well. So Ireland to me, it's like, it's very clicky in parts.
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So like I mentioned to you, I'm originally from Scotland. So if I ever send an email out to a venue and say, oh, um I'm from Scotland, Wilson's from like Northern Ireland. So we play a lot around Dublin and I've been living in Ireland for amount of years. and it's like,
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no That dude's not from here. So they have that mentality and it's fine. I get it. But like living somewhere for 10 years, you're kind of in the community, you know, you want to actively play these places.
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um It's very much a... who you know kind of industry and there's a lot of good folks out there though on the back end of that like the who you know people have been in the industry and keeping their venues and their promotion companies very close-knit very carefully who they bring in and then there's other companies that are constantly just wanting new fresh doesn't matter where you're from if you're near that venue where they're putting on a show then you throw your name in the ring they put you in a nice little queue and when your time comes
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they'll look after you, they'll put you up on the on the stage and it's nice when you find folks like that, but it's harder and harder to do. we played um We played in France a couple of months back and the music scene over there was like the opposite. Like here in Ireland, you kind of, a lot of independent musicians are booking out the venues themselves and then just doing all the ticketing and covering their charge for booking the venue and going that route.
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And then me and Wilson got to France and they're like yeah so here's how much you guys get paid and like food drinks all included and stuff like that and me and Wilson like holy shit we get paid wow we might even be able to afford our flight back home this is awesome ah I feel like that's it's kind of similar how it is here. you know Most of the venues I've been to, you know they show up, they've got they get they get X amount of money for doing the show, and they get a bar tab, and you know the if the venue has food, they're like, hey, you know we'll got you got a your food goes on your bar tab, whatever you know whatever it is.
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I couldn't imagine being an artist and already an independent artist and and and kind of, you know, you're trying to get your name out there. You're struggling. You're already doing this, that, and the other thing. and You're just like, well, shit, now I got to pay for the video. I got to pay for this. i got to pay for that. I got to, you know, if we don't sell 75 tickets, then we got to eat the cost.
The Pros and Cons of Being an Independent Artist
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Like, what the hell are you doing?
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i think like from growing up and like i watched a lot of like you know the rockumentaries when we were kids and stuff and like everybody said the same about the music industry it's the only industry that runs at a loss and still survives somehow and that's not it's so true when you're an independent artist like you gotta have so many side hustles you gotta have a day job like until you get to a certain level and i think that's that's the goal for most is getting to that sustainability level but even at that you gotta have so many other side hustles if you want to have the business side of it and survive make an income and have the house and try to have the whole nine yards and all that kind of stuff
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It seems like that and the in the music industry today, it seems like the independent artists and the independent scene, at least over at least over here, you guys are absolutely fucking taking over the market. like you know and and and And props to, I know everybody wants the big record label and everybody wants the big contract and everybody wants to sell out stadiums.
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But there's a lot of independent artists that are like, yeah, no, I'm not going to sign with your label and you're going to take 80% of my my money and then I'm going to get 20%. Like I can make more than that. Just not on the street corner and busking.
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You know what I mean? like take my guitar out play some cover songs and mix it up the original stuff and go on social media and, you know, like go to hell with your goofy ass record deal. Yeah. that was always that was always the dirty secret like everybody thought like imagine having a million dollar record deal and then you hear the big guys when they do their interviews they break it down it's like you get that million like that's basically a loan it's no better than a mortgage to fund their career it's it's an investment that needs to be paid back it's one big massive loan
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And like, I see a lot of, it's great to see the independent artists taking over again and kind of bringing it back and showing that there's ah sustainable way of doing what you love, doing what you're passionate about and being able to survive.
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it's really good to see.
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Well, not only that, but you also can, you know, stay an independent and you see this a lot and you hear it a lot. I know Aaron Lewis is a big one for lead singer of staying. Yeah. you know, he's a big one that talks about it. You sign with a record label and they change you.
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they but You know, they change, they they make, you know, the way you look, the way you dress, they change your style of music and and this, that, and the other thing. And I know he's been very vocal about it now that he got away from the big labels and, and, you know, um,
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And he's in a much better place now that he's doing his thing. I mean, you know granted, he made his money. Obviously, Stained was one of the biggest bands of the late 90s. And it's cool to see him do his own solo thing, but also see Stained back out on the road and not confined to those you quote ah Like a cage.
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ah you know The record label puts you in a cage and says that this is how you're going to act. This is how you're going to dress. This is how you're going to sing. like Yeah, we know we signed you because like you guys you know you guys do this style of outlaw outlaw country. Well, and that doesn't fit our image of what we want you guys to do. we Walker, we want you to cut your hair off.
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Yeah. the change it changes over time like they these you always see these labels like take on these bands and you always always hear halfway through their contracts something fucking goes wrong and it's like this band's just been dropped by whoever records you know and it's because they try to go against the grain or try to change and adapt you know But um yeah, I just, I don't see the benefit.
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And I haven't, like most of my adult life, I've never seen the benefit of chasing that that label dream that existed when I was like 13 years old. Like, as you get older, life starts to fucking kick in. You see the hard realities of what's going on.
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So it it changes. And I think, yeah, staying independent is the best way to do it. I think there's a lot of it. I guess they class themselves as independent labels now as well where like it's not as much you know like they'll off they'll give you 30 grand and access to a studio and it's it seems a lot nicer it's don't get me wrong it's still life-changing amount yall yeah yeah it's easier to try and pay back 30 grand than it is couple of million on a 10 year deal or some deal that's got your soul
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Yeah, we're going to give you $20 million, dollars but, you know. That's you until you die. Like, no one wants to end up like again Bob Dylan, Neil Young's of the world, you know, where they still got to do it. I mean, look at Ozzy, man. I mean, he you know, Ozzy's one of the biggest names in the music industry.
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The dude, I think, died about 10 and a half years ago, but he's still in his carcass out there. They put animatronics in him, and he just they're still trying to get that money out of him. Did you catch much of the show out there?
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I've seen some of it. um i still want to try to I still want to try to find it and watch it in its entirety because I am a huge Aussie fan. yeah and a part of me feel And a part of me feels bad because You know, Lord knows he's had all the health problems and everything like that And, you know, like the man's put his time in letting, let him enjoy what he has left of his life and not have to be on the road.
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I did think it was really cool. They had all those acts come up and do Ozzy songs. that Shout out to young blood who absolutely killed changes. Absolutely killed it. I nailed it, man. That is, that is career defining like moments that happened right there when he done changes, man.
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I heard a lot of people say, and a lot of a lot of the quote-unquote music critics came out and said that that was like a passing of the torch from Ozzy to this kid. And I'm like, that's career-altering right there. If you're getting compared to being the next Ozzy, you better hold on, because it's going to be a wild ride, young man. It's up there with those those performances, like you know like when Queen Freddie Mercury played like Wembley you know it's one of those pivotal moments in rock and roll history right there that one section the young girl done all the other artists over there had done an amazing job like well some shaky exceptions yeah you know the older the older guys here you're like the old yeah you gotta to give it up yeah yeah yeah again you got these older guys that are just just being kind of wheeled out there right just as a spectacle and it's
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That's it. They're cool. It goes back to, like you said, man, when we were kids, yeah everybody wanted to be a rock star, man. You're going to get you're gonna you're gonna get millions of dollars. It's sex, drugs, and rock and roll, man, like women, all this.
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As you get a little bit older and you start to hear are the horror stories and you see the behind the scenes, and especially, you know I'm sure for you as a musician, you're like, Yeah, you know, it's not all it's cracked up to be. i i've I've seen enough of the behaviors of like Guns N' and Roses and Motley Crue, you know, and the stories. You're like, it's fun. And then it gets to point where it's like, damn, man, that ain't fun anymore. i Yeah.
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Reality will come. Reality and karma will catch up to you, folks. Yeah, eventually. I mean, yeah. yeah yeah Motley Crue, you know,
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Drugs, you're tearing up the hotels. I mean, Nikki Sixx, when he did his band 6AM, he did a whole-ass album. He has a heroin diaries about how that man died. That man died, literally died of a heroin overdose. They all died multiple times for their life. It's just crazy. And then you've got the ultimate, dad like Keith Richard, Roland Stones, you know, the ultimate walking corpse that still rocks to this day. Yeah.
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ah He's the mix. Still doing it. And Mick's still making babies, man. He just had a baby a couple years. like, what are you doing? It's so fucking scary, man. These guys just keep doing it.
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Mm-hmm. But yeah, I don't know. I think like some of them do it well, even well into their like, like look at Ozzy. That was, I know it was minimal songs, but geez, just be able to still do that was, was phenomenal.
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And I think it brings more emotion to it as well. Like I see a lot of people calling out the mama, I'm coming home bit. the isolated vocals and you can hear he's struggling with it but you hear that emotion and that passion is still there trying to come through it's sad but it's a happy kind of sadness that he's still kind of able to sing with that original like reason he wrote it kind of mentality things exactly it's like you know what i'm glad that he's finally hanging it up man yeah it's deserted yeah i've been to i've been to a couple different oz fest and and it i got to see ozzy i got to see black sabbath you know so it's like all right a childhood you know childhood music dream get to see there's certain you know there's some acts that i know i'll never get to see
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yeah but they're still you know growing up in my early teens being able to go see ozzy and he was still ozzy you know what i mean he wasn't just yeah a feeble old man you know but but uh and there's some other bands that i've been fortunate enough to see and and whatnot but yeah man it's it's it's uh it's one of those like i'm glad you're finally hanging it up but As a fan, it still kind
Reflections on Musical Legends and Aging
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of sucks. It's like, man, it's the end of an era. you know are are as As I'm getting older in age, the the legends that I grew up with and and the but the music the music the musical icons and stuff like that,
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they're all getting old. It makes me realize, oh shit, I'm getting old too. like're They're going away. they're they're Whether they're retiring or they're dying off, whatever the case may be, it's like shit, man. It's that reality check that kicks in.
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for It's good. I like to see them exit the industry or retire on their own kind of like ah accord you know it's on their terms and i think this was a good way for aussie to to kind of finish it with with black sabbath as well it was just a nice it was emotional but a real nice way of doing it um and some of the musicians that were there were just like i'm a god were there like that was badass man um
00:27:49
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seeing like all the different kind of covers that every bond they don't. It was just, it was great. Nice, nice, nice send off and a nice tribute at the same time.
00:28:01
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, probably one of the most iconic, most legendary guys in in rock music. I mean, say what you want to say and throw the names you want to throw out there. But i don't think any of them. and sorrys Sorry, sorry, Zeppelin and sorry, Zeppelin fans.
00:28:17
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But I mean, you guys are in your own right. You're up there. But I think for me, it's it's the end all be all is awesome for rock music, man. The guy, the guy. did it all seen it all and it was like the the prince of darkness like you don't get many guys that can live up to to that name you know but uh yeah it was definitely good to see but i agree man it's hitting hard seeing these older guys just just go that way and i think a lot of it's down to we're the ones getting older as well we're right behind the same way
00:28:51
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Right? No, and that's and that's the cool thing, like doing this show. I've always, I love music. um' a I'm a self-proclaimed music slut, a music whore, whatever you want to call me. I listen i listen to it all.
00:29:04
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I love music and getting to do this show and not really knowing originally where I wanted to go with it and then going, you know what? I want to focus on the independents, the up and coming yeah local talent because there's so many good musicians out there that and i know we're not a big platform but we're getting bigger and we're growing you know but there's so many talented people out there that a lot of people have never heard of like i'd be willing to bet most people in our audience have never heard of you guys but i'll guarantee they're going to listening now it would not surprise me either like we're not like i think still kind of
00:29:42
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I hate to use industry terms, but still kind at that brand awareness phase, you know, where youre you're just trying to connect with people and know like, hey, we're here, we're making music. If you like it, come along for the ride. It could be fun.
00:29:55
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um It's going to be depressing, but you might get therapy out of it, you know. We'll do what glu we can for it. but I mean, that's that's one thing that's one thing about music, too, is music is it's very therapeutic at the end the day.
00:30:12
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That's thing. I've came across a few people in life and they categorically don't listen to music. I'm like, how can you not listen to music or be into poetry or be into something creative? You know, I never never understood these ah career types, I'll call yeah one them.
00:30:30
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Yeah. You're right. big Because I'm telling you, man, you you you never know how a song, you know, you you might be writing a song, we'll get into that here in a few as well.
00:30:41
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You might be writing a song that is based off of a personal experience ah for you, you know, and and and it's going to relate with somebody who's going through something very similar at the same exact time.
00:30:53
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And it's going to help them through it. I mean, I joke around and I kid around about Jason Aldean being my goddamn spirit animal. And that son of a bitch lives in my fucking head because and damn near every song he writes, I'm like, oh, I've lived that. Oh, I've been there. Oh, I know exactly what he's talking about.
00:31:08
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and know I think that's, that it's that relatability factor. And I think there's there's a great comfort and connection when you share happiness.
00:31:22
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There's also the same. You get that feeling of comfort when you share misery with someone as well, you know, and it's just not it's not nice to know that you're not as alone as you might have felt.
00:31:34
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So I think certain types of music, music can affect your mood in so many different ways. But again, going back to the we ain't getting any younger. being relatable to whether it's a trauma you've had or something, it helps. Like that's why I started listening music when I was young.
00:31:52
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It was to deal with things that were happening around me, whether I wanted to happen once or I wanted to dwell on the misery. I've got my songs for that, you know. Yeah, you got your you got your your you know your your gym mixes, you got your happy time, your party, your your breakup, you know, you go through a breakup and you've got you got your go-to songs. It don't matter how new or old they are, but you got those go-to songs to help you through every, you know, change in life or you're just sitting around and drinking and you're depressed for no fucking reason but yeah maybe you just want to listen to some sad old country music or some shit like fucking exactly like for me when i was young i think i don't know a friend introduced me to some nine inch nails stuff i'm like their early stuff in the 90s was really heavy industrial and then they got that one album i think it's called the fragile forgive me if if it's wrong
00:32:44
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Fragile is just, and the downward spiral are just like, don't make plans, don't listen to it on a Sunday with a hangover or a come down. You're going to experience some emotional music with that record, and it's an amazing record.
00:33:00
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But everybody has to have that outlet. Yeah. yeah there there you know there There are some artists and some bands and whatnot that they'll just get you right in your feels real quick and in a hurry. You're like, you could be having the best day of your life.
00:33:18
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And one song comes and you're just like, well, now I just want to go take a long walk off a short clip for some fucking reason. Like, I don't know about you, my song you know but you love the song.
00:33:31
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like My playlist is pretty eclectic. so like It can be like that where I've got like some real Creepin' Death by Metallica's on there and then the next minute I got Street Spirit by Radiohead. Just a complete 180 mood killer. but I'm still going to listen to it's by My playlist is very ADHD, man. It can go from Mega Death meadeda to Backstreet Boys into like some weird 80s shit to to, you know, to Tupac. it's it's ever it's It's very ADHD and I don't give a damn. It's like, you know, if you're riding in the car with me and we're hooked up to my my playlist on the Bluetooth, be prepared for a roller coaster ride of ah crazy because I don't know what's going to come up next.
00:34:19
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I love it. that's It's the best way to be. like Be open in life, be open in music. a good song is a good song. Exactly. So, for you for you guys, or for you specifically, do you have, or this like how did you how did you stumble into the, well we'll call it we'll call it outlaw country for the sake of argument.
00:34:41
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How do you stumble into that? like what What were the artists that you listened to growing up that kind of inspired you? I know you said earlier you were a big metalhead and big into the hair bands, which I can appreciate. I love me some old school metal in the hair bands.
Eclectic Musical Influences and Cross-Genre Appeal
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Hair bands are a guilty pleasure.
00:34:56
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I don't care. Poison and shit, you know, rot. Poison, yeah, man. The big hair, the makeup, the leather pants, I don't care.
00:35:08
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I've never been that thin, but I always wanted to be. yeah Just one time. I want to know how Dee Snider felt to wear those damn pants and Twisted Sister.
00:35:21
Speaker
I swear I can make them fit. yeah I think, so yeah, growing up, there was a lot of the metal influence, but ah like take bands like Bon Jovi, you know, that always have a bit of slide guitar in there.
00:35:37
Speaker
then it was hearing those, those little outside sort of, when when the metal guys, the hair metal guys started having to do their ballads, there was a lot of these kind of country music elements creeping in. And I love always loved that.
00:35:53
Speaker
When I was really young, like around my grandparents like ah they were big on their conway twitty their george jones and johnny like stuff like that so i always had that in my head and then the older i got the more i kind of regressed back to i gotta listen i gotta deep dive into these guys you know um so i've always always just had that eclectic taste like you mentioned backstreet boys earlier ah remember when i was young i went to see a Metallica show and a few weeks later, i ended up at a Backstreet Boys gig.
00:36:26
Speaker
Like, and ah when I was young, like, I would go see anyone and everyone that was coming through if I could. It didn't bother me if it was cheesy or it was whatever. A good time is a good time.
00:36:41
Speaker
Nope, I get that. I grew up with, I have four sisters. And a couple of my sisters were huge new kids on the block band. And, you know, and at first was like, ah, I don't like no new kids on the block.
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah. Boy bands, that's gay. that And then secretly up in my room. and to ah still i mean I would love to go see the kids on the Blockade concert.
00:37:07
Speaker
Why? Because it's nostalgic. It's great music. It's fun music. The Backstreet Boys, you know, NSYNC 98 Degrees. It's all the same, man. And, you know, it's just that nostalgia. It's good music.
00:37:20
Speaker
It doesn't matter. you know, you like what you like at the end of the day. Exactly. That's what I was saying. Like there's all these folks that kind of have real, I only listen to metal and that's it. And anything outside of that, like you're this or you're that. It's like a good song is a good song. Don't get me wrong. When I did go see Backstreet Boys, I was wearing a hoodie.
00:37:41
Speaker
I didn't want anyone to notice. I was you know, I seen another friend there. I was like, what do we say to each other? Like we're both from the Backstreet Boys. but that's That's how I was the first time I went to was at the Vans Warped Tour and like Avril Lavigne was there and stuff and I'm like, yeah, I don't want nobody to know about it. But yeah but like, this is a great fucking time and there's a lot of great bands that are performing and I became fans like to this day, I'm still a huge Avril Lavigne fan. I think she's amazing.
00:38:13
Speaker
You know, it's just one of those things. but yeah when i first i was like my buddies had to talk me into going i'm like oh man i don't want to dude and now uh well i ain't got nothing else to do and that now we're here and and then i'm having a great time and i'm like yeah those are the best nights to have as well going in with just like yeah friends got a spare ticket you go along you're like i don't really want to be here, but like I don't want to, yeah, I'll just come along, and then you get there. and You're rocking out just with the best of them, man.
00:38:44
Speaker
Yeah, I've seen, went and seen Kiss, I think it was their Psycho Circus late 90s or something like that. I am not a big Kiss fan. I do like some of their songs. you know i like I like some of the disco era songs, you know yeah and and and and then ah you know when they took their makeup off, like one of my favorite songs by them is Beth.
00:39:04
Speaker
At the end of the day, it really is. But ah my buddy, he, he we were barely, I think we were juniors or seniors or some shit like that in high school. And he was like, man, my girl was supposed to go with me, blah, blah. blah and Now she don't want to go. And I got this ticket. I'm like,
00:39:19
Speaker
I'm not a big Kiss fan, but it's free, and I can say that I experienced Kiss. yeah it was I had an absolute blast. Those guys put on a fucking show, man, with the laser lights and explosions and fire and demons and the mega, and it's just like, holy shit, this is a whole-ass fucking experience. like they They know how to do it.
00:39:41
Speaker
They really do it. So it's like one of those things where, yeah, sometimes you just go and then you don't realize that you're going to walk away with the memories that you have and you're going to have the fun that you're going to have. But that's the great thing about music. If you're, if you're open to, like you said, there's some guys out there that are like, this is, if you don't listen to this, well, then don't know, man, open your, open your ears. There's so many talented individuals out there just, just waiting to be discovered in, in,
00:40:09
Speaker
you know, like you're, you're only, I think at the end of the day i think you're only hurting yourself if you don't open yourself to listening to all types of music because you never know what you can miss out on. Well, this is it. And like, I think a lot of the, like take Post Malone.
00:40:25
Speaker
I remember when, when Post Malone came out, was like, it's I don't know, what were they calling it? Like trap sort of weird edgy. I don't know what it was. It was a weird, like it was just Post Malone being Post Malone at the end of the day.
00:40:38
Speaker
but i i kind of everyone was kind of slating it and i i took a little bit of a deep dive and i could see like he can play guitar he's got like influences that kind of similar to mine like nirvana and stuff from the early 90s he's got a big like rock kind of influence behind them as well and now he's in the country scene And okay, it's pop country, but I mean, it gets people moving.
00:41:00
Speaker
And he's a talented guitar player. Like when you see the reality that the all these people are, they they're getting into it because maybe this is the only way they can until they can start to play what they want.
00:41:12
Speaker
Sometimes that's where they go. yeah exactly and and you know even when he first came out i i i so i was surprised at how much of a fan i became of post malone with when he first came out because if you listen to the the lyrics which is i'm big on lyrics like because i could actually the guy could actually whether he was writing it or you know or writing all of it or whatever the case may be them songs hit and now that he's doing country like tarantula said in the chat yeah it's crazy hearing his country music you know didn't think it would be good but yeah the dude is
00:41:45
Speaker
and despite what he looks like, the dude is crazy talented, man. and and And I ain't mad at him for jumping into the country side of things. Maybe that's where he always wanted to be, but they're like, well, you can't do country because you have to look like this, you know, to do country. but And you look like this, so you need to go into this this ah this category if you want to make it big.
00:42:09
Speaker
It's that that little box and label thing that people have. And then especially with... with folks that do that genre hop and kind of stuff. Like, look look at what happened with Linkin Park when they teamed up with Jay-Z, you know, like a bunch of fans just turned it back. And it's like, if you've got, if you've grew up with a hip hop influence, like, and you're playing metal, it's going to creep into an album or a song here and there. It's just you using the talent you have and wanting to try something different.
00:42:36
Speaker
There's nothing wrong with that at all. And in my opinion in my personal opinion, I was, I love Linkin Park. But in my personal opinion, man, that that album that they did with Jay-Z, holy shit. that was That was so good and so unexpected.
00:42:49
Speaker
Yeah. It's another example of bringing like people together as well. you know like All of a sudden, you've got like these heavy sort of rap head kids going to Linkin Park shows and just mixing in with the metalheads. And i always I always loved that, being part of the alternative. Yeah.
00:43:08
Speaker
always seen this coming together of genres here and there. So nice to see it. Music's about that connection, you know? Mm-hmm. as A few years back, I went to Louder Than Life. It's a big rock music festival.
00:43:22
Speaker
And so Guns N' Roses was headlining it. It was like Axl and Slash. it was the It was the original. And that's the whole reason I went, because they were a bucket list band. But Stain was there, Marilyn Manson, Slipknot. There were so many bands.
00:43:36
Speaker
And then just thrown into the mix was Ice Cube. And me, being the old the old school hip-hop head that I am, i was fucking stoked. I was like, hell yeah. Just randomly throw Ice Cube in here with all these rock bands and heavy be metal bands.
00:43:51
Speaker
white Rob Zombie was there. There was just in this moment. So many bands are there. And then there's Ice Cube. But I was kind of of shocked how many people in the fan or how many people in the crowd.
00:44:02
Speaker
This is like at a big open outdoor. It's a four-day music festival. ah How many people that were in the crowd that were actually... singing along to the Ice Cube songs. yeah Like I said, me, my my my old my my old school hip hop, love for old school hip hop came out and I'm like, fuck yeah, Ice Cube's going to be here. Let's go. you know like I'm going to try to get as close to the stage as I possibly can because this is going to be awesome. And just everybody around that were just loving it just like I was. It was crazy.
00:44:32
Speaker
That was one of those first times where I, and and and being so much older when I went, And experiencing that for the first time, that cross-genre experience at a quote-unquote rock show.
00:44:45
Speaker
Because usually you go to shows and you go you go to a country show and it's all country. Or if you go to the Vans Warped Tour, it's it's all that style of music. Or the Family Values Tour, which was all.
00:44:56
Speaker
with biscuit and corn and stained and and whatnot. So it's like, you don't really get to see too much of that, but that was that first experience and it was really cool to see it and see how many people were just as excited for Ice Cube as they were for Slipdot or Guns N' Roses or whatever. a A lot of folks hide it well. Like, you know, they'll freak when some of these people come out as guests. So it's always a all awesome.
00:45:22
Speaker
yeah um and and you guys have done that you guys are with your guys's music you're kind of you guys are kind of meshing a couple genres into one and doing your doing your thing with it yeah like we we got into this kind of weird mentality few most back we're like okay we got to be consistent and we got to make sure our sound is on point and then It lasted like a month. And then I was like, you know what? We we have some stuff that we play. And like to me, it was it just, it sounds good.
00:45:56
Speaker
And then we got back on track and figured, look, if it sounds good to us, that's as as selfish as it sounds. That's what matters first. Because if we're into it, then the passion's going to come out rather than looking at the label studio formula of you got to have your hook, you got to do it this way and that way. And like,
00:46:17
Speaker
Sometimes it works, but sometimes we'll just, we don't play to a click track and we just fucking see what happens. And those are the best ones, you know? So is that is it just you and Wilson or do you have ah so whole band that you perform with or anything like that? we got We do a lot of a lot of collabs. So first off, when I started out as like just Walker Tex, didn't really have a direction. I was doing like cover stuff. And then kind of got into like the cult of walls of the world, you know, and I was like, oh, dark country seems nice. I never really took a deep dive into that. And then as I started playing more, it was like this, it just makes sense. And I enjoyed it.
00:46:58
Speaker
So I'd been doing that for a couple of years, just trying to find direction. But, uh, I started out working with, um, an artist called Malleous Inc. Stapis, Ralph Conrad, who runs Earbone Studios in Georgia.
00:47:12
Speaker
Um, and we kind of we had a couple of calls and we liked what each other was doing and he's basically started doing like the the producing side the sound engineering side he started backing vocals percussion so he's on every every record that goes out on the walk to wilson lions wilson was an old childhood friend friend of mine and but i think three years ago now we've been we've been doing it for three years he was kind of
00:47:44
Speaker
putting out some videos on Instagram and I reconnected with him said dude we got to start playing a game and uh we just we just started doing it again he was like loving all the he was he started learning lap steel guitar and like putting all the kind of slide banjo in there learn harmonica together like everything we're just let's just have fun with this so there's like three of us at its at walker techs wilson lions core we got our silent guy ruff conrad over there in the states helping us with everything he does a lot of heavy lifting that guy and then he yeah labs we like there's a great folk musician here in ireland called kenan flannery um lovely kid so much energy which is great for us older guys to have someone like that but you should check him out great kind of folk artist
00:48:36
Speaker
and then what's his name Keenan Slaner
00:48:42
Speaker
he literally he just released um a little EP with a buddy of his um and it was a sound engineers by Copper Kelly is another great musician we call him the clean cut cowboy but should check I know As I'm saying the names, I know a lot of people like say, oh you shouldn't name drop, but any independent music side of things, I think name dropping is something you got to do. You got to get everybody's name out there so that people can find their music.
00:49:14
Speaker
Like, so. I'm going to write them down and see if I could like can find them and check them out. But yeah, great. there's There's some great artists.
00:49:27
Speaker
You said you you you've been doing you've been doing, have you only been doing music for three years or have you been doing it longer than that? You just really started doing it? I've been doing it way longer. um i say like three years steadily where I find the direction. Like I wanted to go as opposed to just playing covers or messing around in the electric guitar in my days, you know.
00:49:49
Speaker
always kind of dabbled with writing, but never really took it anywhere. I'd have the odd little song here and there. And then, yeah, definitely got more serious um the last kind of three or four years with it to be just confident in the way we're writing, the music we're putting out, and then doing more gigs, trying to get the name out there a lot more.
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's always the that's always the big trick is getting the name out there, you know, let's so people can people can find you and hear it.
The Role of Social Media in Music Promotion
00:50:24
Speaker
That goes back to that, you know,
00:50:26
Speaker
Social media, man, it is it is a it is a unnecessary or it's a necessary unnecessary evil, unfortunately, you know, i think it's necessary evil on this earth right now. and Content, content, content.
00:50:41
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like, i don't want to do it, but yeah you kind of have to, you know, it wass like. Go ahead. Go ahead, man. I was going to.
00:50:53
Speaker
goette and go ahead man i was good Like our our generation, I think because we grew up at the birth of the internet, we're kind of, we're coming around to the idea of being on camera more and all that kind of stuff. So it's like, it's kind of, it's getting more natural.
00:51:08
Speaker
The generation after us were born into that natural behavior of like, yeah there's a camera, fucking do what you're doing.
00:51:17
Speaker
Just do it, man. Let's make it happen. Yeah, I know. I'm kind of, I'm kind of the opposite of that. Like, this is my happy place. Like a microphone in front of me. uh you know the camera and and and doing my thing uh but it's that's all i want to do you know i don't want to do the social media i don't i don't want to you know but i realize i have to you know what i mean because it's like uh you know it's it's a double-edged sword like this is what i want to do But I haven't reached that level of success yet where I could go, okay, now I have a minion that'll do all the social media for me and reach out to all of these people because, you know, I want to have great guests and I want to have great musicians come up on the show.
00:51:58
Speaker
But it's all up to me to you know, and thank God for social media. Thank God that you guys are biting the same bullet I'm biting today. because really all i gotta do is just scroll and let my algorithm do its magic for me and it's just like who is that let me go back and look give it a listen all right let's see where i can find their music listen to it and i'll shoot a message and if i don't hear from them i don't hear from them if i do then we'll we'll hash out the details so that's exactly i is it it is that necessary evil and i think there's like a lot of people hate on social media and i'm like yes i know it's time consuming but
00:52:35
Speaker
there's There's again, going back to that connection piece, you know, you connect, you meet people like we've kind of came across each other's profiles organically. I've met some great friends from all over the all over the world.
00:52:48
Speaker
And it's through social media I've been able to have those those connections. Don't get me wrong. Like when you're spending like 20% of your time doing your music and 80% promoting it, those days are hard. But it is it is worth it to to get to say you do what you love. i think that's that's the trade-off.
00:53:10
Speaker
So when yourre when you're doing that, when you're trying to come up with new content, like Do you ever find yourself in a hole where you're like, I can only do so many videos or so many different things to promote this one song. like What more do I have to do to get it out there?
00:53:27
Speaker
this is the thing and then like that's it's like i was saying to you before before we jumped on i was like doing doing things like this where it's collaborative you're like i know my direction of content for that for that day that week or that couple of days that's awesome yeah it takes weight off instead of sitting there for hours being like what am i gonna can do today to promote this or try to get this into someone's ears and yeah you know that's lot of i don't know it takes a takes a certain type of person to try and keep that up 24 7 but twenty four seven
00:53:59
Speaker
but Yeah, like I'll i kind of just switch to the camera on when i'm messing around in the studio, see what comes out, cut that up in some clips, do the usual trick of like a two minute video becomes two to four weeks worth of content. Yeah, that's but that's my problem. You know, we do we do these, you know, I do this show, it's usually around two hours. We do the Saturday night show that's six hours.
00:54:24
Speaker
We do a show on Wednesday. Years of content right there. that' Yeah, but then I got to go and I got to go back and watch it. And it's like, do I really want to go back and watch my dumb ass for the next six hours and try to find... There's a lot of great content hidden in there. I know there is, um you know but it's a matter of going back and finding it.
00:54:46
Speaker
I need an app or somebody that I could be like, hey... We really want to go watch that and just make some like 10, 15 clips ah out of out of a show. There's gotta be some AI thing out there yeah can just help us find like, what's the most interesting part of this?
00:55:05
Speaker
What's going to help it like get in front of the right people? Yeah, it's a crazy grind. it's It's worth it, though, I think, in the end.
00:55:16
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think at the end of the day, you know, once you start to get traction, once you start to get that that following, that, like I said, you guys you guys get to throw that curveball out there because, like I said, with a name like Walker Tex and a style of music that you do and, and and and you know, and the way that you, in and the look that you guys have, never in a million years would I have been like,
00:55:41
Speaker
Guys from Ireland. yeah know whole like Holy shit. So you get that little nice little curveball that you can throw and also kind of break the ice and go, whoa, hold on a second. i got yeah things that Now I'm not even more intrigued to to to know more about these guys.
00:56:01
Speaker
There is it was a while back, but I remember someone had reached out and they they came across one of our songs and they just kind of dropped in our DMs to say they they loved it. And i was like, oh, that's great. And they'd asked where we're from.
00:56:14
Speaker
And at the time I was living in in Dublin and they're like, oh, you're from Dublin, Texas. That's so cool. And I was like, no, no, ah Dublin, Ireland is where I'm living. And we're like, oh, shit.
00:56:26
Speaker
No, I probably would have done the same thing we have a Dublin here in Ohio. I'd be like, oh, shit, you're right down the road. Hell yeah. Let me know when you guys are going to be out. You know, that's ah that a little bit further away than than what I thought. Maybe I won't come to a show. I would love to, but you know, I got to get rich first. You got to get that clean ticket. Yeah.
00:56:51
Speaker
That's the only thing. I don't fly. I've never flown before. So that's the only thing, like, hmm. But, yeah, like I said, you know, it's it's definitely one of those things where you definitely yeah really change the dynamics of a conversation. And, and and you know ah you know, again, I'm excited not only because I'm becoming a fan and I'm enjoying your music,
00:57:10
Speaker
But I'm excited because that's just another little thing I can add to my quote-unquote resume with this show. is that i It's worldwide at the end of the day, man. I don't care where you're from.
00:57:23
Speaker
Exactly. If you're making good music and you're a good artist, then let's fucking get you up here and hang out. We'll figure out the time difference when we've got to figure it out. Exactly.
00:57:37
Speaker
like I got a buddy out in California and like we kind of wake up at opposite ends of the the time zone. So one of us is always waking up to an inbox full of like DMs.
00:57:49
Speaker
well yeah it's go to say ah jump yeah Yeah, because they I was say California is three hours behind me. So i mean well it's a for me.
00:57:59
Speaker
So when my buddy Dave's waking up, ah yeah, I'm like, I'm going to sleep. and I'm like, Dave, I got to deal with this in the morning, dude. I feel that. I really do.
00:58:12
Speaker
ah but Flying is awesome. get high Blaze is my by my my partner. my partner Yeah, he's my partner on the network. he's He's my go-to guy. he's he's He's my Wilson.
00:58:25
Speaker
he's He's our hype guy for the evening. yeah
00:58:32
Speaker
Callie's next door to it Yeah, like my girlfriend, she lives in she lives in Oregon, and she's got we've got that three-hour time difference, and sometimes I forget. and like i up it you know I get up at 7 o'clock in the morning or whatever, and I just text her, and it's like 4 o'clock in the morning there, and I'm like, oh, God, she's going to kill me. We are slowly, I'm slowly adapting, or like I'll go to say something, and it's like,
00:58:58
Speaker
shit it's three o'clock there never mind i don't know what i'm talking about i'm crazy yeah yeah my partner my business partner what i believe is you jedi um when you when you guys write your music where does that come from for you guys is that like ah personal thing or do you just like you know or is it more like just sometimes does it just hit you like you're sitting down having a a drink or you know it's like i got an idea for a song it's it's weird and cliche but i'm the type where like i could be out walking doing something real mundane and then maybe a line will creep into my head
00:59:41
Speaker
and you kind of chase that dragon you just like pull out the phone start writing a memo or if could scribble it wherever you can for me a lot of it's that when it comes to the lyric writing and part of it and then the music part wilson when he came along had a bunch of different sort of things and ideas so he'll always send these clips of like what do you think of this if we layer in slide guitar here and he comes very well prepared on the music front.
Songwriting Process and Thematic Elements
01:00:11
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And we kind of build it from there. And then days where we're in, like he comes down, stays a couple of weekends out of the month. So we'll always spend some time just jamming out and seeing what works. And a lot of things just happen organically, which is the best way to do it.
01:00:28
Speaker
But ah yeah, I could never just sit down and be like, okay, I'm gonna do some songwriting today. Because you never know when the inspiration is not going to show up between two and five that day that you've chosen. yeah That's going to be the one day you're going struggle. You can't schedule that shit. sometimes i Sometimes I feel like talking to different musicians, is you know obviously some things in life haven't. I have a very good friend of mine.
01:00:57
Speaker
He actually does a sports show with me on this network. But he started out as ah as ah as a guest on this show. And I just had him on last week. And when I was going through some personal stuff in my life, he was like, bro, hit me up.
01:01:12
Speaker
I'm going to write a song about it. And I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, you. I'm I don't know if I can ask you to do that. He's like, no, man, I can do this. It'll be fun.
01:01:24
Speaker
Well, just call me and and i'll and just give me some clip notes of what's going on in your life. And I'm like, dude, this is very personal. Like, I don't mind talking to you about it because you're my boy. But I don't know how I'm going to feel about it if you write a song about it.
01:01:39
Speaker
if We're musicians and songwriters. We're always looking for it. And whether it's like some, sometimes it is personal. Sometimes it's someone else's experience. you're like, you know what? I'm, I'm, I'm feeling some, some feelings about that. I'm going to write them down and see where I can take it.
01:01:56
Speaker
Um, for, for me, like, I think a lot of the, a lot of the lyrics that were writing very recently, they took, didn't take a turn. We always wrote pretty dark stuff, I guess.
01:02:08
Speaker
But it got more introspective, I think, for a while. Like that song, Old Days, you played was about like the amount of time we spend in our heads like in the past whether we're processing it or whether it is nostalgia like sometimes it's great but we get caught up and just spending a lot of time thinking about the past and then the opposite side we think about the future like oh my god am i going to be able to afford y or z or am i going to be able to do this when i'm older and kind of forget to live in the here and now and that's that's where old days came from so it's those there's concepts behind some of them others are total gibberish i'll be honest but some of them do have to do them yeah so some of them are just like you said that that random ass idea and you're grabbing for the phone as quick as you can so you don't lose
01:03:02
Speaker
there's others we listen back to you after the don't be like how much did we smoke or drink last night You know, ah know how that goes. Please that I have had those conversations after some Saturday night shows and what the fuck happened last night? Or it'll be like Monday. It'll be like, what the fuck happened on Saturday? And it's like, and I don't know, man. I was 20 beers deep. I don't know how much weed you smoked Saturday night. like I don't know what happened, but I'm not going back to listen to it Fuck it. It is what it is at this point. It's it's out there now, and that is all the money. is
01:03:37
Speaker
It's in the past. We're not going back. but We're live on the internet. there's no There's no take backs once it's out there. But, you know, we we've never done anything terrible or bad or anything like that. It's just sometimes we get off the rails. And, you know, yeah, I totally get that. It's like, yeah, no, we're just going to leave it.
01:03:55
Speaker
which is's good Hopefully it'll just go away on its own. i could I could never run for a political office at this point. but i mean none None of us can, man. Don't worry.
01:04:10
Speaker
It is what it is. Yeah. Sometimes you just ah you just throw shit at the wall and and hope it sticks. Other times you're like, it's the dragon. And there'll be those times you're like, we shouldn't have chased that motherfucker.
01:04:24
Speaker
I like that. I like that. Chase the dragon. Yeah, I've heard that before. But usually, usually it's when people are talking about drugs. Oh, yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's it's normally reserved for the the cold hard stuff.
01:04:38
Speaker
and No. We're going to take it back. We're going to rebrand it so it's not about drugs anymore. so This is the clip to use as your content puller. Right. 104. I'll actually timestamp that so i don't remember so I don't forget so I don't remember. Let me timestamp it so I forget.
01:05:01
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Yeah, that's what I want to do. I have all these notes and I got the crazy edge. crazy ass notebook over here that has all my random shit in it, but nonetheless.
01:05:14
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ah
01:05:17
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Chasing the dragon. No, we're not doing drugs. This is a new dragon. A different type of dragon over here. Different dragon. And then there's Blaze who happens to enjoy drugs. and then there's blaze who likes who happens to enjoy drugs He doesn't mind. Safely and responsibly, might I add.
01:05:35
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He does. He does. I'll give him that. well He does like to go wander in the wilderness sometimes. but We all do. That's where the inspiration and experiences come from.
01:05:47
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I joke, they all call me a Sasquatch on on the on the the network here. And I'm like, yeah, the last place you're going to find me is in the woods. I got the hell out. i like that I like the modern conveniences of electricity and indoor plumbing and and and all that. This Sasquatch is not living in the woods anymore.
01:06:07
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No. Who did you get caught by? No.
01:06:14
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did you need a car by
01:06:18
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It's just like random strangers. What are you doing over there? Nothing? Some old school park ranger. Yeah, right. For you guys, come but what what what do you guys, you know, you can divulge as much as you want or tell me to shut the fuck up and mind my business. I don't care.
01:06:38
Speaker
ah You guys got anything that you're working on coming down the pipe? You got you got new music? Anything like aspirations for an album or anything like that? We do. um so the minute we're working on we we released outlaw, we released old days, we're gonna release the cover of country roads as well.
Upcoming Projects and Evolution of Music Style
01:06:59
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And then there's another couple we're working on the background.
01:07:02
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And the idea is like these songs are gonna go into what's gonna hopefully be our first kind of vinyl release. So we find somewhere to that does like nice cheap runs of vinyl, which took us about a year to do.
01:07:18
Speaker
um to find the right place that isn't going to charge us like three grand for a box of vinyls that one's going to buy. Yeah, it's just stuck with three grand worth of all these vinyls. like So what do we do with them now? Why does Grand that have an old box of vinyls with some random... yeah but a But yeah, that's the idea. So we're working towards that. We've been trying to gear up and do more more like live shows. I got a live show coming up at a little local place, Sunday the 20th here in like, ah I live pretty rural, but it's town called Wexford. I live just near.
01:08:01
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um So Dumbrody Abbey, we're going to play a little show there. And then we're going have another and of, I guess, showcase day there with like a barbecue and stuff on the 17th of August.
01:08:13
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I think I'm over, we're over in France in November. And then in between, like, we'll work with other people. Like, someone reaches out, we should do a song together. We're always real real open to kind of doing that stuff as well and jumping on it. But at the minute, it's practice mode and just getting everything set for ah good, I don't know, call it EP, album, whatever people want to call it. There's going to be a bunch of songs on there.
01:08:40
Speaker
And yeah. ah yeah. mean, just. i know I know a lot of the artists these days, some old guy sat there and had a conversation. Did he even care about that?
01:08:50
Speaker
Just some random old dude. you um Might not have been real, Blaze. Are you sure it was a real person? No, I talked to a lot of musicians and they're like, yeah, you know, ought to do an album eventually, but they're on this just track releasing, like yeah two, three songs, you know, and, and, and, uh,
01:09:10
Speaker
you know, at a, at a time or one or two songs at a time. And it's just like, that's, that's, that's what, that's what people are doing now. Like that's, that's what I'm i'm old. I'm old. I miss, I miss having but an album in my hand or, you know, you know, going through being able to, to thumb through the, uh, the little insert that comes with ah the vinyl or, you know, you get some, some cool pictures of the band or the artist. And then some, maybe some behind the scenes, uh,
01:09:38
Speaker
where the song came from and stuff like that i miss that maybe it's just because i'm old maybe maybe i don't know what i'm doing but you know i also enjoy that people are releasing singles and and i can put it into you know i can put it into my rotation and listen to songs or you know stuff like that but it's like i'm kind of torn on do i like that idea or do i like the the old school album releases I missed i miss the physical aspect of it, similar to yourself, like the stories, the photos, you know, that that real feel to it.
01:10:07
Speaker
you just you don't You don't really get, it was real. It was. some It was real. um Yeah, that real element to it. But I think like one thing I miss as well is B-sides.
01:10:22
Speaker
like With digital Digital Age and Spotify, you don't get B-sides. Yeah, you don't. I want to do a good B-side. and Whether it's a cover, it was always, like when I was growing up, the B-side was always like a cover song or a demo song that the band hadn't put out. And it was best thing ever, you know? and So I'd love to do something like that where we've got like a nice album and then a bunch of B-sides that we just fucked around with.
01:10:48
Speaker
the Yeah, I miss i miss that. like Because there is no, like you you go buy a new album, and you get the ones that get you get the songs to get the radio play, which is kind of the concept now with social media.
01:11:01
Speaker
You've got your songs that you're pushing, and you're putting out there, and you're you're getting that traction, and you're getting that following with. and it you know And then you'd go buy the album, but then you'd find the hidden gems, you know the songs that that weren't pushed, that were actually some of the best songs on the album in all reality.
01:11:19
Speaker
And it's just like, man, you kind of miss that now because I know I'm guilty of this. you know It's like you know things will come out on Spotify or YouTube or whatever the case may be, and it's like I'm just going to the go-to's.
01:11:32
Speaker
And then I have to catch myself and go, you know what? like Like Morgan Wallen just recently dropped his album. Motherfucker dropped an album with 37 goddamn songs on it. 37 salt. Who the hell does that?
01:11:45
Speaker
Morgan Wallen. You know why? Because the guy's Teflon. He's untouchable. yeah he He gets popped for dropping racial slurs and he goes number one for 18 weeks in a row. He throws a goddamn chair off the off the roof of a building in Nashville.
01:11:59
Speaker
Could have killed somebody. ah Slap on the wrist. And then he scored triple platinum. it's just like The guy's untouchable. So he does whatever the fuck he wants. So he puts his album out and I'm like, fuck it, I'm at the beach one day. I hadn't really listened to too much of it. I heard a couple songs off of it. I'm like, fuck it.
01:12:15
Speaker
Just chilling at the beach. It's just me. The kids are kids are their mom's. Put my earbuds in and just sit there and chill. And I'm like, how long is this goddamn album? Because it just kept going and going. And then I finally looked at it and it was 37 goddamn songs. Morgan Wallen, what are you doing, bro?
01:12:32
Speaker
but Guy's a machine. you don't You know, that's... but Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do myself. Yeah. what yeah i don't I don't know what he's doing, man, but that's what I've been trying to get back to. is like When artists, especially ones that have been on this show, I go back and it's like, I'm going to deep dive.
01:12:50
Speaker
And some of them, you know, so and I haven't got to do the full deep but deep dive into your guys' music yet. um But you get some artists that were putting so music out like nine years ago, ten years ago, and they don't even talk about that no more. And it's just like,
01:13:07
Speaker
well I got to bring them back up on the show because now I got questions. Yeah, that's the thing. You always discover like these these old kind of songs that are out there. And I think you'll hear if if you deep dive into some of the earlier songs Certainly the stuff before Wilson came on board. like there's There's a difference in how I would sing back then because I was still trying to learn how to how does sing and try and get to a point where I was comfortable with how my voice sounded.
01:13:38
Speaker
So there's there's some tracks on there. And some people, they they enjoy those ones rather than what we're putting out now. And that's totally cool. If they're enjoying it, they're enjoying it.
01:13:49
Speaker
But um yeah, I think you always discover hidden gems that way when you deep dive. like yeah think Metallica, like there's a bunch of, always like read these interviews from musicians as well, like some songs that just never got finished or like these demo versions. And going back to that idea of B-sides and stuff, like Metallica just put out, was it a relaunch of Load? And it was like,
01:14:13
Speaker
I how make songs. It's an insane amount of songs that they just did not put out. And some of them are, I believe, just snippets of riffs or vocals here and there. And then other are fully fledged songs. And they had a line around. Don't get me wrong. The price tag on this fucker is huge. Yeah, well, that's what's... I'm not a huge Metallica fan, but those guys have gone the way of of Kiss.
01:14:38
Speaker
It's all about the money. It's all about the money. All about the money. Like, Jesus Christ, I think, you know, I was more of an Iron Maiden, Megadeth fan. I loved Metallica's older stuff.
01:14:51
Speaker
Yes. Master of Puppets. Yeah. It was like up to the Black Album. And then everything after the Black Album has just been they're They're money hungry. yeah i mean, I could go see Megadeth in concert and pay 50 bucks for a ticket.
01:15:06
Speaker
if I were to go see Metallica and sit on the roof of the theater that they're playing and clearly be able to hear, it's going to like, yeah, I got to sell one of my damn kids. You know?
01:15:18
Speaker
if i want to get in with If I want to be in the same city Metallica's in, it's going to cost me. you know yeah My left nut's gone. Sorry, I'm going to see Metallica. What am I going to do? Metallica are coming the time. We got to move. We can't afford to be here.
01:15:32
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thank
01:15:36
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but yeah its ah think they they definitely went that way. It's so funny. like Everybody has their own... their own perception of the time when they got into Metallica. You know, for me, like the first Metallica song I ever heard was One.
01:15:50
Speaker
And then the first Metallica... One is a great song. I love that song. But then the first album, the first Metallica album I ever bought was Reload. So i love i love Reload.
01:16:02
Speaker
And then there's some people I talk to and they're like, um you like reloaded shit. There was this and that. Just the time I jumped on. And I meet people who jumped on it saying, anger. And I almost have to hold myself back and say, I'm that guy. You're that guy now. No, I feel that. And it is not that it's not that Metallica's not, they're super talented.
01:16:27
Speaker
I mean, obviously, you can't deny the talent that those guys have. And you can't deny who they are as a band. but and's it's just the greed factor. and I think what really turned me off to them because I was of this era was the whole Napster thing.
01:16:43
Speaker
Like really, you guys are getting pissed off about pennies when you're already billionaires. Like you're getting pissed off about pennies. Like all the legal bags and being like, yeah, but Napster's really shitty for doing that.
01:16:57
Speaker
Yeah. that was That was definitely, a i I remember all that kicking off when I was younger. I think they've grown for all his flaws. Yeah, he's he had a great line about music should be free because it's art.
01:17:13
Speaker
And I was always admired. out Now it's a lot easier to say when you're making millions you know when you're making millions of dollars. yeah like Yeah, that's that's one thing that I've learned from doing this show, though.
01:17:26
Speaker
with with this with this new quote unquote new generation or this generation of of independent artists and stuff like that man you guys all have the same mentality because I always ask the same question I'll ask you right now I already asked you and already know the answer moving forward as long as it's cool with you we're going continue to play your guys' music across the network yeah exactly and that's and that's that's that's what I love about you know you guys are like fuck play with and play it as much as you want you know Play the hell out of it.
01:17:55
Speaker
And we do. ah we we We take breaks on Saturday nights and we play music. Blaze takes breaks on his show on Friday nights. He plays music. I used to take breaks on this show, but then it was like, and then i'm pulling the e-break on a conversation. It's only a two-hour show. It's not that big a deal.
01:18:14
Speaker
I don't want to pull an e-break on the conversation and go, hey, I know we're having a great conversation here, but I'm going to play one of your songs. Now, I have done some interviews where it's like, quote unquote interviews. and I don't like to, cause this really isn't like a typical interview.
01:18:30
Speaker
Yeah. You know, like, you know, but, or or I have had some people where it's like, ah ah they're, they're great. Don't get me wrong, but I'm really pulling teeth here trying to get the bucket, you know, and I will take a break at the midway point yeah and let them kind of recompose or or whatever, and then come back in and for the, for the last hour or whatever, and and hopefully be able to pick it back up and,
01:18:53
Speaker
keep Or I get people that are, like I told you before, before the show, sometimes I get people that I can just tell that they're not comfortable on camera and they'll be like fidgeting with their guitar or something and they brought up singing and it's like, you know what, if you want to go ahead and do something, go ahead, man.
01:19:09
Speaker
And then once they do, they're in their comfort zone and then they're good. And it's just like. all right now now we can now we can proceed with what we're doing and i got really cool content because you just did live acoustic version of one of your songs yeah shoulder like and but but i love that about about you guys in the independent scene it's like yeah okay we don't care play the hell out of our music you know it gets it right there it connects with people And nu that's ultimately what what it's about. I like it but it spent some time looking at you know your music marketers and these like music like label people that are like, this is what you should do if you want to be
Success as an Independent Artist and Intimate Venues
01:19:50
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successful. And I think that's great if your definition of success is aligned with what they're peddling.
01:19:56
Speaker
like i don't Like if I can make enough money to keep the house I'm in and put food on the table, I'm fucking happy. that's that' That's the bottom line for me. ah don't necessary Don't get me wrong. If someone says, do you want to go support like fucking stained or something?
01:20:11
Speaker
I'll make that flight. But right in time, it's kind of it's more for you want to keep it at a certain level. I don't think I'd be comfortable with doing it at that grand scale.
01:20:25
Speaker
I think you miss so much of life when you get into it that big. where you want to to yeah yeah i don't I think you lose connection the more the the bigger the venue, the more loss of connection there there might be. you know i think as ah as ah as a music fan, as much as I love going to concerts and and and then I've been to the like the big venues and stuff as much as I love doing that I think my favorite thing to do is when excuse me um whether be local artist or a bigger named act comes to a smaller venue yeah there's there's a band that i' that i'm a huge very I'm a huge fan of been a fan of since before I started doing this and I got the opportunity to see them and there's there're they' they've been at it for a hot minute and they're starting to blow up and actually they were out
01:21:18
Speaker
They were out in your neck of the woods last year. Blacktop Mojo, they're out of Texas. Blacktop Mojo, yeah. They're friends of ours here on the network. We go from like day one with them. We've been playing their music.
01:21:32
Speaker
And I had an opportunity to see them here and where I'm at. And bought my tickets, went up there. and it was just this small little hole in the wall bar. And, dude, I was like literally like two feet from the stage. so you know, I love that. that that It's that intimate feeling, the intimacy, like they're right there. Like these guys are just people that I watch on YouTube and I know they're traveling all over the country. And like I said, they got the opportunity last year, I think it was, or maybe it was early this year to go over.
01:22:04
Speaker
And I think they were in England and maybe Scotland. can't remember where all they went, but they got to do a little tour over there, and that was that was really cool for them. But then here I am in this little hole-in-the-wall bar in Columbus, literally face-to-face with Matt, the lead singer, singing along with him to all their songs. And and I love that. i think that's my favorite experience as ah but as a music fan is, you know, you these bands and these musicians that you like.
01:22:31
Speaker
if you get the opportunity to see them in a small venue or a small bar, you know, it's just so much more. Yeah, I agree. There's just, that it's, I think it's ah easier to connect kind of thing, you know,
01:22:46
Speaker
Like going to a stadium gig, you you're connecting with the audience that's there. Like as a as a gig goer, like, you know, if you're in that audience, 60,000 people, yeah, you're sharing the same emotion, same sort of love for this band that's there.
01:23:02
Speaker
Does the band know that you're there and connecting with the songs? Like kind of. Probably not, unless you're right on two rows. Whereas if you play a smaller venue, there's more, and don't know, there's more intimacy there that just, yeah, you get a totally different feel. It's hard to describe, but it is a totally different feel.
01:23:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's you know there's a big difference. And I would think this as a musician, not not being one but you know it's a different feel when you go and like you said 60 000 people compared to 200 people you know what i mean and and you can connect more and not only i i would assume not only for the fans because it's that's huge for us because like oh my god i love you guys and you're right here and then you're in the bar after you're done playing and you're hanging you're talking to people and everything else and it's not
01:23:58
Speaker
rush off the stage and go back to the tour bus and let the next band come up or whatever, you know. Turns into that, just money, when you're playing, I think, at stadium level from documentaries and behind-the-scene clips and interviews, it's, yeah, there's a lot of fun to be had, but it's a lot of, you're just kind of, right, we got to go to the next time straight away, and then it's same set list or same whatever. There's very few of the bigger bands I've seen that make room for these these moments. Like i think Frank Zappa was good for, he would always improvise his solos on most of the songs at every show he'd done because he hated the idea that every show was gonna be the same.
01:24:42
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He wanted to have something different there rather than just carbon copy set list every night on a tour. So he'd always try and do like these improv bits and change the solo every time he played the song.
01:24:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
01:25:00
Speaker
Got to keep it interesting. and Exactly. You you got it you gotta to keep it.
01:25:07
Speaker
I don't know. You got to go back what you said. You you you know, when you when you reach a certain level, when you reach a certain stage, which you said, you know, I'm just happy with the lights staying on and roof over my head. And, you know, we kind of have the same feeling here with this.
01:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, we want to monetize. Yeah, we want to make money. Am I going to be mad if I make Joe Rogan style money? Not at all. But I would be just as happy if if I make enough money where the guys make money, I make money, and we're able to pay some bills.
01:25:38
Speaker
you know Maybe I don't have to work as hard as I do in my normal nine to five job. you know If I could quit my job and pay my bills and have a little bit of extra spending money, man, I'll be happy as hell.
01:25:50
Speaker
ah You would never hear me bitch about social media at all. I'd be like, yep, this is what I do. Right here, I got my little setup. All right, well, we got a show tonight. I have no show tonight. Okay, it's time to put out some content on social media. just you know If I could quit my job and and and do this as a full-time job, that would be that would be ideal. That's it.
01:26:10
Speaker
That's the goal. But at the same time, I don't want to be so big where I lose myself and I lose... you know i like I like having a life. I like being able to do certain things that, you know if i you know like if you like you said, if you're spending all your time, you're literally, oh tonight I'm in this town, tomorrow I'm in this town, tomorrow you know it's it's it's ah's a vicious cycle to get into. i mean not they them were it's still It's still tough for an independent musician to do
Touring Experiences and Festival Plans
01:26:40
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it. watched Bodies of Mongolia and do two-month US tours, but
01:26:45
Speaker
They still like whether they make profit off it or not, they still come back with so much. They come back like almost not different people, but there's the kind of leveled up. You know, they've had all these great experiences all of a sudden and they've traveled and seen all these new places, met all these new interests and people.
01:27:05
Speaker
And I mean, that's just for anyone that's got a creative mindset, that's really, really fucking important to just get out there and meet new people and see the world as well, you know.
01:27:16
Speaker
But ah it it can be tough depending what I couldn't imagine doing 52 weeks a year and not having a minute to myself, you know, be in control of what ah what me, Wilson and Ruff are doing, you know.
01:27:35
Speaker
Now I get that. I totally understand that. um I guess, I guess, you know, I guess that comes down to it's already kind of been answered. You know, the, the end goal for you guys, would you, would you guys like to have the opportunity? i don't know if you've had the opportunity to come to the States and play at all yet or not, but would you like to have that opportunity?
01:27:55
Speaker
we'd love to um another uh french band called jarl they're literally going out there in a couple of weeks to do like a a u.s tour and yeah it's something we me and wilson would love to do it would just be yeah and we don't we don't even like it could be a small venue. We don't care, but it could be someone's back garden. We don't, give you impact we would just be happy to be, to be playing over there.
01:28:26
Speaker
Well, come to, come to Ohio. We got a pretty cool music scene here. in oh You're my in road to Ohio. I know some places. I know some places actually, actually what's up, Ross. I see you down there, but ah ah actually if, if, if, if all goes accordingly,
01:28:47
Speaker
Within the next, so i have a plan for this show, and I think something that would be really fun to do. But if everything goes accordingly, no more than the next five years, I want to put together a weekend-long event.
01:29:02
Speaker
And it'll be showcasing only artists from our former guests of this show. And we're also going to mix in some ah some comedy because we got one of the guys that's here on the network with us who's a stand up comedian.
01:29:14
Speaker
And he's obviously he knows some people. So kind of like a Thursday to Sunday event, man. And one of the places that I want to do it at. um It's got a really nice outdoor ah stage.
01:29:27
Speaker
Real nice bar, real nice setup. However, the owners own a fuck ton of property around it and they're currently turning it into a campground so it's like boom filled in built in for not only the people coming to see but for the bands and the artists um so that that's my goal so you you you guys might be in ohio before you know it's something you're interested in definitely definitely it'll be cool because like i said being being the music whore that i am i don't i interview people of all different genres on the show i've
01:30:02
Speaker
um yeah you name you name it. I've almost had every type of music you can think of on here. It'll be one of those things where going to have quite the interesting group of musicians and some musicians have said like absolutely fucking loottely I'm in. You know you're just tell me when and where and I'm i'm there. like No ifs, ands, or buts about it. but It's a it's a goal and it's a dream that I think would be really fun. And we'll be able to do like podcasts and stuff there as well. And do, you know, three records with sit down interviews and yeah live recordings and and all that. Just everything that goes into it, just a mass fucking production, which is like, got to find the venue. You got to find the sponsors. to, you know, the money, and the the acts. And it's just like,
01:30:46
Speaker
I might be taking on more than I more that i should be, but... It's achievable though. And like some of the, I see a lot this summer, like I've seen a lot more mini festivals coming out from just real independent people that just...
01:31:07
Speaker
like you love for music. They may have a podcast or something going on and they want to put on like ah a nice live event. I see a lot more folks doing that this summer than ever before.
01:31:18
Speaker
And it is, it's really great to see. And they are giving that kind of space to independent musicians to come along and play. And yeah, and that's, and that's the cool thing because, you know, that's, that's huge for you guys.
01:31:33
Speaker
Because, you know, you may not. And and and dude who doesn't love a who doesn't love a music festival? If you're a music fan, who doesn't, you know, like, like I said, this place is at a bar. So, you know, once their campground is complete, like, go to the bar, hear some kick ass music, get fucking shit face, stumble back to my camper or somebody else's camper, whatever, you know, wherever I end up at the end of the night.
01:31:56
Speaker
You know, and then get up the next day and do it all over again. And it's it's one of those places that's close to, you know, it's right down the road from, you know, our big our big lake in my area. So there's a couple beaches you could go to. Obviously, i want to do it in the summertime when it's nice.
01:32:13
Speaker
ah You know, if you well i don't I don't really want i don't want to really hang out for the rap music during the day. So, yeah. yeah I'm going to go to the beach. like Okay, go to the beach. It's right down the road. you know it's It's in a cool location and it's out in the middle of nowhere.
01:32:26
Speaker
It's out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. so It's just like, and we you can fucking party all night.
01:32:33
Speaker
It's the best way to do it. Like you said, the the collaboration. like you know You guys do the the collab with with with your guy out in Georgia and yeah where else can you meet um other musicians ah other than a you know a big festival like that? and like Like you said, I've been seeing that a lot myself.
01:32:51
Speaker
That's what kind of spawned the idea in my head is because there yeah there's Redneck something or another that's just out in a fucking field um up in Indiana. It's like right on the Ohio-Indiana border.
01:33:04
Speaker
It's just literally out in a fucking field. and They bring a bunch of these like country rapper guys in and then there it's just like, okay i mean if they can just throw it together in a field i could that's that's all you need like a generator a pa system somewhere to pitch some tents and like something that resembles a bar and you're you're someone that can run a mixing board you you got a nail yeah exactly um
01:33:37
Speaker
damn i was there so many ah There were so many things I wanted to ask you. It just all kind of s slipped my mind because that's what happens. Like I said, a I don't write shit down. None of this is scripted or planned out. It's just like, fuck it. We're just going to shoot for the fences, man. It's it's off the cuff, unorganized chaos.
01:33:53
Speaker
I strive in unorganized chaos. That is my world that I live in. the more and The more chaos, the better. It's just like...
01:34:08
Speaker
The hell was it? Ah, shit. Yeah, man. What was like I going to... I know there was something else I wanted to... Oh, that's what I was going ask you. Where does the name Walker Tex come from? is kind is is country and this is... Maybe this is just ignorance on my part, but is country music... Is that big over there in in Ireland and Scotland and stuff like that So...
01:34:35
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it It is, but it's a different version of country music. And and my own humble opinion, it's different version. It's very, like a lot of the successful folks doing country music and in Ireland, like...
01:34:55
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a lot of them for the mainstream country stuff are just doing covers and they play like a lot of different hotels and people go along and it's very much for four time and it's, it's dancing and it's very strict and rigid.
01:35:08
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So for someone like myself and Wilson Lyons to go along and play, it just does not happen. um But it's, there's, there's a lot more, like we just had Zach Bryan play here and like, I think he plays like free nights, something like that big, massive part.
01:35:24
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in the uh in dublin and it was huge so then even the newer kind of country music scene is is kicking off here garth brooks is like a god over in ireland ah garth brooks is a god no matter where he goes and let's let's read that that yeah that guy that guy could go anywhere and and he's treated like a god ah like i remember when i when i first moved uh so i i lived in northern ireland i've lived in scotland parts of England like I moved around lot but when I first moved to Ireland Garth Brooks was set to play like think six nights something huge the usual and he had to cancel it man you could don't leave the house if that guy cancels in Ireland like there's riots everywhere people are like there was on the news
Country Music in Ireland and Social Media Challenges
01:36:14
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every night for weeks being like Garth Brooks publicly apologizes to the like it's just it was crazy to see that that level
01:36:22
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But um yeah, kind country music is it's pretty it's pretty big out here. I think it's going through this comeback right now. like You'll see a lot of the folks on, even like Joe Rogan recently, he's had I think he's had Charlie Crockett on there. adam There someone else recently went on. there's a lot of You've seen more of these ah the independent side of country hitting that next level up, getting it into the playing fields now.
01:36:48
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Yeah, it it it is pretty big over here.
01:36:52
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Oh, yeah. So where do you guys find kind of find yourself fitting into that that that world? We don't. because they Because you guys have a totally different style. I mean, it's like country, but it's it's it's it's not. So, you know, are you guys struggling to kind of get it out there, find your find your your fan base or i think that's always it's always been the struggle is like because again going back to like what marketers tell you and the way you market your music you know you got to have your you got to have your who do you sound like you got to have your label put on it your your genre specified and all that stuff nice and packaged and we just don't want to
01:37:42
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we don't want to play that way. We just don't. We're anarchists. We didn't grow up that way. really So, yeah, I'd say it is difficult, but it's all about the kind of relationships you build. You know, if you go to, like, darker country shows and you start to meet folks there and be like, oh, look, you should check us out. We're going to be playing here. And, like, it's all about just, unfortunately, like, how you market yourselves.
01:38:08
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um ah Reaching out to venues, like, this year the main goal is like reaching out to more promoters more venues and just kind of saying hey we're here we'd love to either get a support slot or we'd love to see about putting on a little show and see what we can do or bring to the table if it works it works um so it is it is it's tough but it's tough for any any independent musician trying to find their audience and like Yeah, we get a lot of folks from all over the place, like similar to yourself, you know, like kind of.
01:38:46
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pockets of people here and there that love what you're doing. it's like If they all lived in the same city, would be... If you guys were like within driving distance, yeah we would be we would be doing much better. you know Everybody just come over here or we'll come to you. We'll all meet in one spot and we can make this look and work the way it should.
01:39:10
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Yeah.
01:39:12
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Who hell are these guys? where the hell did they come from? Why did they get all these people showing up? You asked about the name as well. I don't think dodged that one. So, yeah, Walker Tech. So, my middle name is genuinely Walker. So, there's a bit of truth in this.
01:39:30
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And then, of course, you've got the tie into Walker, Texas Ranger. Okay. That's as well. There's a famous country musician called Tex Ritter. Like, it ties into the country scene really well. So there was minimal thought, but some influences. I was wondering if there was connection to Walker, Texas Ranger. Oh, there has to be. I didn't want to assume it would be like,
01:39:58
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and didn't want to assume and be like So you just like rip that off from Chuck Norris and Walker, Texas Ranger. Do you go, what? Never heard of that show. What are you talking about? so Don't mind me. I'm just, that I'm just the idiot American over here. Don't mind me.
01:40:15
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Because. Definitely. Definitely. that would would you Nice. I mean, it's that it's not a bad ripoff. I mean, at the end of the day, it's definitely something that'll go.
01:40:27
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But I tell you what, when it when i when I first searched you she searched you guys up on YouTube, that's all I got. I put in Walker Tech's music. and it was just It was all Walker, Texas Ranger, and it was like the music from Walker, Texas Ranger, the sounder. I'm like, no, this is not what I want.
01:40:43
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absolutely I want to get the stage where it's just a bunch of Chuck Norris and then me in a trucker hat smoking a cigarette with a random video in the queue. you know Wilson beside me playing his slide guitar and shit. like yeah Yeah, exactly. no it's i mean that's Like I said, that's ah that's a hell of ah he of a a way for people to find you because there are a lot of Chuck Norris fans and there are a lot of fans of the television series.
01:41:08
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I won't say it doesn't make business sense, but it does. Hey, you got to do it. Speaking of the social media, where can where can everybody find you guys at?
01:41:20
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Which ones are we on? We're on Instagram. We're on Instagram. And it's it's all under Walker Tech's music, and it's not because I'm an egotistical maniac front man or anything. just Wilson Lyons came in a bit after we we had established what we were going to do. So you'll find that you'll find Wilson Lyons under his own name, and you'll find Walker Tech's music under, yeah, we're on TikTok.
01:41:48
Speaker
We're on what what the the platform formerly known as Twitter. ah We're on YouTube. Uh, what's the blue sky? I think we're on there. Like Google search find us wherever you can is what I always say. Like, and then all the streaming platforms as well. Good or bad.
01:42:06
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Um, yeah, you'll find us. We got a website as well. If you just want to go on there and take a nosy around, like, yeah, wherever people are willing to. When is.
01:42:20
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when it is Sorry, my son's here. who like My kids have no fucks to give. What? It's almost over.
01:42:30
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but Yes. Why? I put one. way
01:42:36
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Sorry about that. um Yeah, and if you guys do, and if you can't, for some weird reason, now, I mean, if you go to YouTube... Be prepared to fall into a Walker Texas Ranger rabbit hole like I did the other day. i was trying to find your music. Next thing I know, two hours go by and I'm watching Texas Ranger on the fucking YouTube.
01:42:55
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your love one yeah I've watched Chuck Norris roundhouse 475 bad guys. but That was the goal all along. I'm just that's what i want just promoting Chuck Norris. That's what it's all about.
01:43:13
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yeah It's all about shucking
01:43:21
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away. It was just, you know, it's I'm an idiot at the end of the day. That's that's how. buts yeah But nonetheless, if you guys are struggling and you're an idiot like I am, or as I like to say, I'm a big dumb animal,
01:43:38
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ah just just go to our social media if you're already following us i've tagged him and everything from youtube facebook instagram uh i'm not following you guys on on on x or we're not following you guys on x yet but we will be after tonight so i don't think i'll do it i'm following on that one like i gotta i gotta say like with that platform i literally just go in and throw the the content up there and i check it every now and again periodically yeah and that said like i don't i think wilson lions is on he's got he's on facebook but you'll always see him tagged in every video as well but he's facebook instagram very reluctant to join tick tock i understand but he just he just kind of leaves it there he'd he'd be a bit more like he prefers just to keep it uh
01:44:34
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keep his time away from social media which is respect and so yeah he's like i just want to I just want to do the music you gotta water techs you gotta be water techs you do the boring stuff over there I'll be here writing yeah Yeah, you go handle the social media. You can be an egomaniac. You can make it all about you. just go it's Someone's got to, I guess. that's i I honestly, i treat I treat X or Twitter or whatever you want to call it like the like the ugly stepchild. I neglect the hell out of Twitter. I just...
01:45:09
Speaker
and I don't go on there much and I forget to post on there sometimes. And then when you do go on there, it's, it's literally politics and porn. That's all there is on. Yeah.
01:45:19
Speaker
And I'm sorry, we don't fit We don't fit into either one of those categories. So we're not getting no love on Twitter. There is no, there is no in between none at all. its curious Politics and porn on Twitter. So, mean, yeah, it does get treated like the ugly stepchild here on the network.
01:45:37
Speaker
And that's my own doing because I think I'm the only one that is logged into X and that's fine. I don't think anybody else wants to deal with it. As I said, Wilson and Ralph, like, I got to treat it like lottery tickets the way we promote content. You just, you got to put it everywhere. And each, each place you put it could be that lottery ticket that wins a little gig or something, you know, social media bingo.
01:46:01
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Like, just open something wins. yeah you never, yeah, you never know. you could have done the the, you could have done 40 videos for the same song and you never know which one is going to hit that algorithm and just pop off and you're like i've done this 39 other damn times just yeah one time it just kicks off and then like you like the the people that do all their their music marketing kind of stuff
01:46:36
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They'll tell you like, yeah, when you get that video that does like do a bit better than the last one, figure out what you've done in that video and repeat it. And then you've got Instagram and meta like telling you, well, the algorithm knows if you repeat it, then you're going to get knocked down because it's repetitive content. And it's like, who's right and who's wrong.
01:46:53
Speaker
ah just, I avoid it. I put it out there. If it gets found, sweet. If it doesn't, sweet. ever doesn like Yeah. sometimes if you go from like, like if you, if you post something on Tik TOK,
01:47:05
Speaker
and you post it onto Instagram, and it's got that stupid little TikTok watermark. Now, thankfully, TikTok has changed that, where if you save your videos, it doesn't save with that watermark anymore. But if there is that watermark on there, you'll get a little notification that pops up on Instagram that says, this was this was posted on another platform. It may not get the views and interact engagement that you want or something like that. It's like, really...
01:47:29
Speaker
you're doing too much at this point you know crazy man and then i had other folks tell me like you gotta help your content like i'll post i'll post something every day and whether it's a story post just telling people where they can find the music or promoting a new song whatever it is, I'll try and post every day.
01:47:49
Speaker
and like, have people still saying like, yeah, you're you're too light on your content. You got to be doing four to five times a day. And i'm like, dude, I got shit to do. like as so Like, I also feel like doing that, man, you, you, you,
01:48:03
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you kind of become, and this is my personal feeling, because I would love to post four or five times a day, but at the same time, it's like, God, I don't want to be that obnoxious guy that's just... It's attention. slowing people Yeah. You know? like yeah like I mean, at the end of the day, we all are trying to we are trying to get attention Yeah, ah that's that's the name of the game. We're in the entertainment business. We want the attention.
01:48:28
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But yeah, sometimes it's like, I just feel like there is a such thing as as too much, you know, you don't want to, ah you know, sometimes and and and and I do that on the opposite end the spectrum where I'm scrolling social media and I'm like,
01:48:41
Speaker
jesus fucking christ why did i just get 10 videos from the same person or 10 pictures from the same person like goddamn go get a life go touch some grass go get some fresh air go inside and look at the sky man yeah but it's doing what it's supposed to be doing it's putting their shit right in my face they're right in front of my eye holes and it's like it's that double-edged sword man it's not necessary yeah I try to find that happy medium and lot of times the happy medium is ah we might post outside of our live shows and when we post those and stuff like that and when we go live it's like yeah you might get some random ass content you know from time to time.
01:49:27
Speaker
It has to be done. It's not consistent. any Any videos we do like I'm literally I'm chopping them up as much as I can and just like I enjoy editing but it's different when it's your face and you're spending two hours maybe editing a nice little acoustic performance by the end of that you're like I don't ever want to see a mirror ever again in my life in my at this point in time you're just disgusted by yourself it's like
01:50:00
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yeah it it's It's great for your self-esteem, apparently. like of that I know it's good content, but fuck that guy. He's a prick.
01:50:20
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it Has to be done. Yeah, exactly. At the end of the day. Oh man, brother. I don't want to keep you too much longer. I know we're getting close to it. I do appreciate you coming up here, man.
01:50:32
Speaker
ah ah do want to say you were cool as hell. Um, welcome to the nonsensical family man if there's anything we can do for you help you promote stuff don't be a stranger please uh new music any of that stuff we're gonna keep playing your music on here uh i know i'm looking forward to uh you guys releasing your version of country roads i know it's already out there on the tube of views and whatnot i will definitely be downloading it probably this weekend and i'm gonna put it out there for our our uh our little merry band of misfits that like to hang out with us and, and, and check us out and stuff like that. So we can start getting that into rotation as well with some of the, uh, some of your other music. Um, we got quite quite the, quite the library of music here. is
01:51:18
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The eclectic ah collection that is oh thanks for, thanks for, for having me on again, everyone blew up Wilson Lyons DMs and shame him for not being able to,
01:51:33
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yeah I'm going to send you a message. guys we We are following each other on social or on Instagram. I'm going to send him a message. I'm like, wish you could have been that Walker guy. I mean, she clearly, he's not the talent of the two ah
01:51:52
Speaker
hello love it. Thanks for having, I say us, thanks thanks for having us on and our music out there. We really appreciate it.
01:52:04
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Likewise, anything we can do, the the grind of promoting anything anything at all we can do, we've shared across the networks. That's what it's about, building that community, that good connection. So we appreciate you all taking the ah time to have us and having a chat.
01:52:22
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Absolutely. Likewise, man.
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01:52:24
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You know, I'm in the same boat you guys are in we're We're all just kind of doing our thing and trying to get ears and eyes on what we're doing and people to to to see us and hear us. And, you know, it's I greatly appreciate you you coming up here. taking i know it's late there.
01:52:39
Speaker
ah worth it It's worth every second. maybe we'll ah Maybe we'll do it again down the road. I like to i like to bring guests back every once in a while. Maybe we'll play something a little bit earlier, like on a Sunday or something where it's not 1 o'clock in the morning for you. It's only fair that we do it for like 1 in the morning your time next time, you know? You know what?
01:53:01
Speaker
Bring it on. i i'm I'm game on a Saturday. now I'll be like Wilson during the week. I'll be like, yeah, I got to But if you want to do it on a Friday night for your time, yeah, man. let's Our Saturday night shit, I'll do the Saturday night show. And that one jump right back into another show. don't know.
01:53:19
Speaker
I'm an animal. Don't don't don't go give me the opportunity to sent me sit behind this camera or in front of this camera with a microphone in front of my face and talk. I love it. it's This is my ah this my happy place. Like I said, this is this is where I ah kind of do my thing and just rock and roll, man.
01:53:36
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so but i do I greatly appreciate you hanging out. I actually do want to play... Yeah, it's 10 p.m. her time. She's okay. 10 p.m., man. What I wouldn't give for 10 p.m. right now.
01:53:51
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I want to play one more real quick song. You're welcome to hang out yeah during the song, and I will come back, and I'll do my little spiel and close this bullshit out. and If you hang out and you got anything else you want to add before we get out of here, you're welcome to. always like like to ask my guests to pay a book.
01:54:07
Speaker
ah final thoughts or something that little snippet of words of wisdom or something like that that I like to throw at the audience but I got some time to think all right I'm gonna Google right here in the back of hurry I think I have outlaw queued up Nice. i think that's I think that's the other one I downloaded. Hopefully i don't click the same damn song otherwise. I'll be like, oh, just kidding. so get it out there Yeah, right? and So we're to play this song. We're going to come back and wrap the show up. We got Walker Techs hanging out with us all the way from from Ireland, guys. So that's cool.
01:54:51
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And I can't figure out my buttons. are I just got to get to the right page. Here we go See how we do.
01:55:24
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I don't drink whiskey and I, I don't drink beer. ain't the last of my kind, just the first one here.
01:55:37
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You see me coming, don't you throw me no down. Cause I'm down on my luck, just sure to do in some time.
01:55:51
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I'll ramble down for now, 10 damn years. Just a lonely lot, so trying to find what is here.
01:56:05
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Wanna settle down, I wanna find me a girl. She's gonna love me while I give her the world.
01:56:19
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This life with no direction to find Looking for a place to ease our way of the mind We travel through just waiting round to die Hoping for an answer while we look at the sky
01:57:31
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yes sir ah dig it i dig it and i think i think there are gonna be some other people that are gonna gonna be hitting me up saying oh shit who is that what do you guys where'd that come from we had some real fun on that one so yeah and i think i think it's the most recent release as well so yeah real happy to to hear it getting played out there a bit more Yeah, I tried to get a couple of your most recent ones on. I usually always try to shoot for the most recent songs from guests, ah even though there are some songs. I'm like, oh, but but the great thing about it is I've never had anybody tell me I couldn't play their music.
01:58:10
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So I was like, oh, don't worry. I can get these other songs in rotation and I can get them out there. You play it all, play whenever. Love and proud, man. ah We absolutely will, man.
01:58:21
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I do want to say thank you again for coming up here and hanging out with me tonight, man. I know it's late and and in your part of the world, but definitely greatly appreciate man. Best of luck to you guys. Hopefully some of these venues will get over the fact that you're naturally born Scottish and insane and just focus on the music aspect of things.
01:58:42
Speaker
We're going to keep annoying them either way. Don't worry. Don't pass up an opportunity just because you might not like where somebody's from because, man, you never know. you never know what you could be.
01:58:54
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You don't want to be that guy that goes, oh, man, will you guys blow up. They're like, oh, man, I had opportunity to get them here. And then you guys are so big that you're like, yeah, we remember when you said, fuck yourselves. We're not coming there. I love that confidence and that we're going to blow up.
01:59:08
Speaker
and you got You got to have that same confidence. I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass either, man. I'm i'm a fan of your music. I dig it. and And I look forward to seeing, you know, more stuff and the new stuff and, you know, take those opportunities at those gigs, get somebody, a friend or somebody to get their phone out and get you some content, easy content for the social.
01:59:29
Speaker
yeah Always. i like Thanks again for having us, man. It's been an absolute pleasure. And yeah, anyone watching, check us out. Workatex Music, Workatex Wilson Lyons.
01:59:41
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wherever you can find this folks, always happy to chat. Check them out, listen to their music, drop some comments, drop some likes on them. And, you know, just for my own ego, just tell them that click sent you just for my own ego.
01:59:55
Speaker
Yeah. Tag the nonsensical network. Cause I am an egomaniac. So self-reclosed. love it. At least you're honest. i all ask yeah um'm I'm very, I'm very humble in my egotistical voice, but, uh,
02:00:09
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but No, thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for hanging out. We will be back tomorrow night for our wild card Wednesday night, and we've got another guest lined up. So we're going to be hanging out with a dad bod veteran.
02:00:23
Speaker
It's probably no one from social media. He's out there. He's doing a lot of things and he's also doing a, a comedy tour with some other fellow Tik Tokers. So I'm sure we'll talk about that. We'll talk about everything he's got going on. That's a dad bod veteran.
02:00:39
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We'll, I don't know what's going to happen. It's going to be complete chaos. I have a feeling. So like it always is.
02:00:48
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And then I think Wally's back Thursday with some reptile cold-blooded conversations. We've got a guy on the network that does a show all about reptiles. That's awesome. I like that. He's a reptile. He's got snakes and lizards and I call them dragons and dinosaurs, but he's into that world. So, you know, he's an old friend of mine. We went to high school together and he was like, man, i want to do it I want to do a podcast. I was like, I got a network. You can do whatever you want. Here you go. Here's a day at a time. Do what you want, man.
02:01:17
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Um, Fridays blazing Mike will be back with nonsense and chill. I don't know what they're doing this week. I never know what they're doing. I'll be honest with you. They just do their thing and i don't have to worry about it.
02:01:28
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And then Saturday, of course, we are back Saturday night with nonsensical nonsense. You guys know the drill. The inmates take over the asylum. We opened the fucking doors and we let you lunatics come hang out with us. So,
02:01:40
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ah And then, of course, Monday we kick the week back off again with Speedway Stories. It's all about the racing and whatnot.
02:01:52
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And then next Tuesday, I don't know what I'm doing yet next Tuesday. and don't I don't know. We'll figure that out. But I'll be back next Tuesday on Glicks House of Music. Again, check us out everywhere. Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok.
02:02:03
Speaker
YouTube, X, we're there, and you can listen wherever you listen to podcasts at on all them podcasting platforms. And again, I want to say a huge shout out to Ohio because apparently you fuckers got your ear holes on and you are loving us.
02:02:17
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And last week we were number five out of all the podcasts in Ohio, and this week we were number seven. So we are staying in the top 10 pretty consistently. So thank you guys for that.
02:02:29
Speaker
Ohio, what's up? Holla at your boy. We can come and do things live for you. Let's see. You got this. reppttile I was going to hit this. The ghost stuff, I think.
02:02:41
Speaker
Maybe that's next Wednesday. i'm not I'm not sure. Blaze is working. We had a paranormal investigator on last Wednesday, and then Blaze went out and did a ghost hunt with him on Friday. Take care. Appreciate you, Trencher. Appreciate everybody watching, everybody hanging out. Walker Tix, brother, much love to you. Best of luck. best Best of everything, man. I can't wait to see you guys doing your thing and and hearing more new stuff because we're going to keep cranking it out on on the network. So, playing the music played for you as well.
02:03:08
Speaker
Glad to hear Thanks for having us, man. Great to meet you and hang out. Pleasure. Yeah, man. It was pleasure meeting you. absolutely we'll do it again down the road like i said we'll do it on a day where uh where i'll i'll do the late night the sun is up for me yeah you know yeah that or we'll do uh we'll do uh uh uh an early afternoon midday thing for you maybe we can get wilson to hang out with do the matinee for his old folks yeah there you go a little sunday matinee of glicks house music
02:03:40
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I'll be like, hey guys, you want to do a couple live performances for me? Bring your guitars and be prepared. and But I appreciate you, brother. going hit these buttons. And we're going to get the hell out of here.
02:04:04
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02:05:07
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