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Wildcard Wednesday - A Paranalysis Pt 1: An Interview w/ Kurtis Collins
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OH BOY!!!! It's another Wildcard Wednesday and we got a some fresh flavor for your eyeballs and ear holes!!! Tonight Glick and Blazin will interview Kurtis Collins, a 30 year veteran ghost hunter. So get ready to get your spooky and kooky on! Whether you believe in ghosts or not, let's get skeptical!! Thanks for joining us! Please LIKE, SHARE and SUBSCRIBE. NETWORK Links: https://bio.link/nonsensicalnetwork GUEST Links: 3hourparanormal@gmail.com Copyright Disclaimer: - Under section 107 of the copyright Act 1976, allowance is mad for FAIR USE for purpose such a as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statues that might otherwise be infringing. Non- Profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of FAIR USE.
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Introduction & Night's Agenda
00:00:22
Speaker
Oh my, hello. ah Glick, how you doing man? There was a lot going on in a very short time on that intro. I know, I told you it going be a quick one because tonight, I'm so excited for tonight.
Meet Curtis Collins: Ghost Hunter
00:00:35
Speaker
Glick, we are it fucking 80. We're going to interview a ah ghost hunter, a local one, my local area. Yeah, from your local area. We're dipping our toes into my area of ah special interest, something that I'm very fond of, the paranormal. And you guys are pricks who won't ever let me talk about it on my own network. so Well, you'll have you'll have all my you'll have all episode to do that. um So this gentleman that I'm going to bring up, his name is Curtis Collins. He is a ghost hunter. Yeah.
00:01:07
Speaker
You can catch him on an episode ah of season four, episode 25 of My Ghost Hunter. It's on Amazon. You have to pay for it, though. Three bucks for the episode or ah by the whole season.
00:01:19
Speaker
um If you do catch the clip, it's like the first 11 minutes. um But we're going to bring him up and introduce him, and we're going to get this ball rolling. He drove through my drive-thru the other day at the liquor store, and was like, hey, man, you believe in ghosts? And here we are. this is going to be a three-parter.
Curtis's First Ghost Experience
00:01:38
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A chance meeting. A chance meeting. Maybe it was the spirit realm that was driving you guys together. Well, it was a liquor store. There was plenty of spirits around.
00:01:51
Speaker
um Yeah, well, there is that. um Other spirits. Yes, uh-oh. But this is to be a three-parter tonight. um Tonight, we're bringing him up. We're going to do an interview with him.
00:02:06
Speaker
Friday night, ah Michael and I is actually going to go out on a hunt. Michael's going to be the cameraman, and I'm going to be part of the ah the hunt, per se. And then we'll upload that later, of course, and then we're going to have a follow-up with the the editing or going through the EVPs and the audio and all that stuff. And we'll get more into
Curtis's Background & Skeptic Inquiry
00:02:26
Speaker
into details details with that. So,
00:02:29
Speaker
Without further ado, let's bring on Curtis. Hey, Curtis. How are you doing? I'm doing great, man.
00:02:39
Speaker
Good, good, good. um Well, shoot. ah First question, ah Curtis, um what got you into ghost hunting, man?
00:02:51
Speaker
Man, six years old, believe it or not. What? going through a graveyard, families all stacked into the car, cousins, aunts, all this stuff. Uh, my brother throws a cup out of the car and my mom turns to me and says, Hey, can you go get that cup? Cause we're in a cemetery, man.
00:03:07
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You know, I ran out, got the cup and there's a guy leaning against the, uh, a, a tombstone. Now imagine James Dean, man, cigarettes and the, you know, t-shirt and all that stuff.
00:03:20
Speaker
I look at this guy. He says, hi. Then I noticed he has nothing from the waist down. It's just see-through. I thought, well, okay, that's different. Ran back to the car and asked my cousin. I said look at that guy. Something's wrong with him and nobody could see him.
00:03:34
Speaker
So figured, okay, we got something going on. And that was the beginning, man. Okay. All right. That'll definitely pique your interest right there. It gets your curiosity.
00:03:45
Speaker
ah Yeah, yeah. Definitely. yeah Hmm. That'll scare the hell out of you. One of the two. and making you I don't know, man. Yeah, and no, I spend so much time in cemeteries, it's bizarre.
00:03:59
Speaker
So before we get yeah more into the the ghost hunting, um I thank you for sharing your first story. that's I wanted to start with that. Tell us a little bit about yourself, your background. um Not just the ghost aspect. That's definitely going to be where we're going to be diving more into it. But, I mean, you you're... I'm just going to have to brag you're a veteran like me, so I just want to bring that up real quick can get that out of the way.
00:04:23
Speaker
So... Yeah, yeah, veteran 20 years, been all over the world, man. After that, you know, 10 years as a cop. And then just to get away from the ex-wife, I took up truck driving, brother, and off I went.
00:04:39
Speaker
It got me away. Fair enough, man. Fair enough. and so I'm sure that – go ahead, Glick, I'm sorry. i was go say that's a hell of a reason to become a truck driver. Hey, got me out of there, brother.
00:04:52
Speaker
Don't want to divorce you, but I got to get the fuck away from you. I need a break. Yeah, somebody was going to, you know, somebody had to do it and I couldn't see her behind the wheel of a truck. So off I went. Yeah.
00:05:05
Speaker
Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:05:10
Speaker
Glick, well yeah you got any questions? I know. and gli So just just real
Ghost Hunting Methods & Critiques
00:05:15
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quick, everybody. I'm. I'm currently I'm a non believer in it when it comes to ghosts, I haven't found any anything that convinces me of the existence.
00:05:23
Speaker
Glick, however, is on the on the opposite coin. Glick is a believer. ah So, Glick, from your perspective, man, what do you what you have any questions for Curtis?
00:05:36
Speaker
I'm just curious, you know, you said that it started out when you were young in the cemetery. When did you actually dive into the world of of investigations and stuff like that? You know, was it something after you got out military or how long how long have you been doing no No. Since before I got out of the military. I've been doing it for quite a long time.
00:05:57
Speaker
Pretty much when I got away from home as an 18-year-old guy, you know, ah any off time I spent doing this. Because, you know, too much going on around me.
00:06:07
Speaker
And I thought, you know what, I've got to get this shit under control. So off I went on that little trail. Okay. Oh, yeah. So did it start out as a hobby for you? Or is it still a hobby for you? Or is there something that you try to do as kind of a part-time job gig or anything? Is there any money in it?
00:06:36
Speaker
I'll be honest with you. I've never charged a dime ever because, you know, I want to get in there and I want to help people. A lot of people, man, contact me with trouble actually ah around a haunting.
00:06:47
Speaker
And, you know, I'm i'm not going to go there and charge any money, man. I'm just going to charge in and take care business. But um it's not a job. It's a when somebody calls, I'm on the way.
00:06:59
Speaker
That's it.
00:07:01
Speaker
Thanks.
00:07:05
Speaker
ah You know, I never even thought about that, the money in ghost hunting. I figured there was money in ghost hunting. some Some people do. Some people don't. um You know, it's it's it's kind of like Blaze and I were talking earlier this afternoon about, you know, some people out and they take it very seriously.
00:07:24
Speaker
they They take it very seriously what they're doing. And they want to find actual proof. Like we were talking backstage. You're not like, you know, the wind blows the door open and you're not like, oh my God, there's a ghost, everybody. And then you try to convince everybody else that it's an actual ghost.
00:07:38
Speaker
There are people out there and and I've got that feeling about you, Curtis, that you take it very serious and you in your you you get actual evidence. Obviously that's the goal. um But you're not going to go out there just willy nilly and screw off and, you know, take it just.
00:07:54
Speaker
And this is why it's really hard. I'm sorry, but this is hard to go with somebody because ah so many people see these shows on TV, you know, ghost adventures and in the kind.
00:08:06
Speaker
So one thing happens and they're screaming and, you know, oh my God, a frog just jumped in front of me or whatever. You know, it's like, okay, man, this probably isn't for you. But yeah, evidence has to be solid, has to be solid, man.
00:08:21
Speaker
Okay.
Sensing Spirits & Personal Encounters
00:08:23
Speaker
So. Like I mentioned before, you guys can find an interview with him or interview a segment on my ghost stories. And so I'm using some of my questions ah springboard off of that. You had mentioned something about sensing ah spirits, since sensing ghosts.
00:08:43
Speaker
Can you explain how that works? Can you explain how that sensation feels?
00:08:49
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. if If you've ever driven by something with a lot of electricity, man, ah whatever it is, a power unit on the side of the road, and you feel that electricity, you feel that pressure, that's the same thing with the ghost.
00:09:05
Speaker
Same thing, man. um You can tell when they're in a room, especially when they're really close. so Okay. You definitely get to get the or the hair on the back of your neck or you know, you get a, you know, you know, there's, there's definitely 100% a feeling behind that. There's, you feel a presence like blaze out. you'd You'd like to go out and you'd like to wander the woods aimlessly. I do.
00:09:34
Speaker
You ever get that feeling? Like somebody watching you. Like, you know, somebody's looking at you or something like that. I have had that feeling, um, plenty of times, but I'm usually on, um,
00:09:47
Speaker
cannabis when I'm out in the woods so I usually chalk it up to that um but uh no I have had that that that feeling like that was somebody just watching you no I know I know what you mean I also know what you mean by like transformer plants you got that humming that the electricity I and I I know what you mean by that so I've never felt that anywhere but a situation like I'll tell you what's interesting, man. I actually bumped into a ghost, and we scared each other.
00:10:19
Speaker
i mean, I've got this on on ah EVP. The ghost is like, hey, who are you? I'm like, who are you? Bumped straight into him man. Interesting. That would be cool to hear.
00:10:33
Speaker
Where were you when bumped? where were you when you bumped into this ghost? I was in the courthouse in Elizabethtown. You know, the one that sits in the middle of square, at that big building.
00:10:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm up there doing an investigation for the County and yeah, so when I bumped into a man and there we you go, that whole area there um around that courthouse, I've done investigations in almost every building and that place is haunted.
00:11:03
Speaker
didn' I mean, it is thick haunted. So, That is the older part of town. I can see that too. um giving And that you know that's actually something else I wanted to bring um That was actually on the on the notes that I lost.
00:11:15
Speaker
And I didn't write those on my new notes. But I'm glad you brought that up. and That was a question of mine.
Identifying Haunted Locations
00:11:22
Speaker
Let's say you're trying to find a place to haunt, or haunt, but to hunt, um but you don't have any leads or anything.
00:11:31
Speaker
And you're like, well, there's old places. How do you, can you cold spot? I don't know that's if that's the right terminology, but cold spot a place that potentially is haunted.
00:11:45
Speaker
Is there signs? I guess, i guess i guess if let's say you're strolling down the road, you know looking for a place to hunt, but you have you know no leads, you know you're in a new place.
00:11:56
Speaker
Is there like signifiers in an area or a place that would tell you, hey, this is a potential place that's haunted? Just go to the building, walk up to the building. As soon as I hit the building, man, not having to go inside, as soon as I hit it, I know, okay, this one is hot.
00:12:12
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This one is not that kind of thing. Okay. Just that back to that sense. Yeah.
Upcoming Ghost Hunt at Cap Anderson Graveyard
00:12:19
Speaker
yeah I, uh, I hit one building. Uh, man, when was that? Anyway, I had bad dreams about that building for like two weeks, never went inside, but yeah. And so yeah, never went in.
00:12:33
Speaker
I'm, Not doing that one.
00:12:38
Speaker
Oh, man. Speaking. All right. So ah Curtis has already told me where we're going to do our hunt. And I have not got the chance to look into it yet.
00:12:50
Speaker
But i did I did circle around because when I was talking to you, I was actually down the road from it. I was coming back from the riverfront when I was talking to you. So I drove down that way. It's Cap Anderson Graveyard.
00:13:03
Speaker
That's the one on Main Street. So if anybody out there wants to look that up, go for it. Do do your own little research. um um I challenge you to it. With that being said, um I did have some more questions for you.
00:13:19
Speaker
Curtis, when you guys go out on investigations, what all kinds of tools do you guys use? Because I know everybody has their own... ah set of things that they like to use particular devices tools some of them are even hey mandy some of them are even old school uh ways like the like the rods and stuff like that um what do you what do you what is your preference when you go out as far as tools and equipment go man You know, i see all these young people buying all this new stuff, rim pods and this and that and this and that.
00:13:55
Speaker
You don't need that stuff, man. You don't need that stuff. ah Can I show you something real quick? Yeah, absolutely. All right. Let me show you this. I love show and tell. perfam
00:14:09
Speaker
I'm sure you've all heard of this, seen this. This is a ghost portal, ghost box, whatever you want to call it. yeah And what happens with it is it jumps frequency so fast that if you get a solid word or response on it, you assume that that is a ah ghost answering you or spirit.
00:14:27
Speaker
Yeah. Now, this price on this is about 90 bucks. Great. 19 bucks. And this is what we call a shack hack.
00:14:41
Speaker
And the reason I wanted to bring this up was for all the viewers that are looking at actually getting this $19 man does the same thing and it does it better. Nice. All you got to do is go in this. Yes. It's 19 bucks, man.
00:14:54
Speaker
It's a shack hack. You go in, open it up, you clip one little nodule in there, and then it doesn't stop on stations. It just keeps skipping like the $90 one does. And this does a better job.
00:15:07
Speaker
So, um, My, when I go out, I use motion sensors, of course, video cameras, uh, uh, recorders. Um, I use all kinds of stuff, man, but to me, it all comes down to the tape or the voice recorder.
00:15:22
Speaker
And that's a trick in itself as well.
00:15:27
Speaker
What about, uh, Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Do you use just a standard like voice recorder? Do you have something and specific that you like to like to use?
00:15:39
Speaker
Um, but here's a trick with a voice recorder, man, the voice recorder, most of them built today, especially the high end ones have what's called a noise reducer in it, a noise, you know, knock off the background noise.
00:15:53
Speaker
You don't want that because most EVPs are going to come through in that background noise. So you'll miss them. The
Debunking Ghost Myths
00:16:00
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recorder will shoo them away. So gotta be careful with that. The cheaper ones I've got high end man, but, uh,
00:16:09
Speaker
Cheaper ones are always better.
00:16:12
Speaker
Okay. What, um,
00:16:16
Speaker
I know it's, it's, this is going to go probably with location, the time of day or night. Um, but what about lighting equipment is lighting, uh, good.
00:16:29
Speaker
What do you mean? Lighting during the day? no well, obviously you're not going to use lighting during the day, but, um, what type of lighting do you use? You use any sort of, um, diffusers any sort of um shoot the names the words are escaping me at the moment oh shoot so when you're when when when you're taking photos inside a house um is it recommended that the lights are turned off down low on is there is there a certain amount of lights or what it or
00:17:07
Speaker
Because I've noticed when I look at all a lot of these photos and videos and stuff, ah being somewhat um familiar with how photos and lighting works and how some of those sometimes when you're shooting photos, even digitally, um orbs pop up, um lighting anomalies pop up.
00:17:28
Speaker
And I was wondering, how do you know the difference between an actual... um
00:17:36
Speaker
haunting or or ghost sighting or something paranormal as compared to just a um a light effect. Yeah, I get this all the time, man. I get people sending me photos saying, you know, I'm haunted or I'm being haunted because they have orbs all over the place, i'll you know, covering the living room.
00:17:55
Speaker
And, you know, I ask him ah did you just turn your air conditioner on? They say, yeah. So we'll turn it off and take a picture and in 10 minutes. It's gone. You're looking at dust, man. Yeah, exactly. Yes, yes.
00:18:06
Speaker
Orbs is one of the worst ah forms of evidence. that And i I have used orbs one time. One time. That's it. And if an orb is giving off its own energy, its own light, you look at that.
00:18:21
Speaker
Take a good look at that one. But the rest of them, you know, no. Orbs are or poor poor for me. I mean, in my opinion, poor evidence. Yes. EVP is electronic voice phenomenon.
00:18:32
Speaker
a lot A lot of times the orbs, ah you know, they, like you said, dust particles or even bugs, especially if you're like outside or you're in a, in a abandoned house or something like that, where, or, or like an asylum, you know, or an old prison where there's windows missing and shit like that, you're going to get bugs and critters that fly in.
00:18:53
Speaker
I've been watching some shows before and and they're freaking out about orbs and I'm like, He just walked into an old-ass building and kicked up a whole bunch of freaking dust. You've been running around setting up equipment for the last four hours.
00:19:05
Speaker
What the hell do you think is going to happen? Oh, my God, we caught 500 orbs. No, that's just dust in the air. Calm down.
00:19:15
Speaker
So, yeah, I would do, Curtis. Sometimes the pictures of the orbs and stuff like that, I just ah just
Chilling Encounters & Evidence Review
00:19:21
Speaker
throw you know throw away and just like, yeah, whatever. you know Yeah, I'm
00:19:27
Speaker
Absolutely. I don't, I don't rely on those whatsoever, man. Uh, cause I know, you know, it's, it's obvious, like you said, man, bugs, dust, it could be anything, you know? So those, I want to, I want to take a turn from the questions. I do have, I do have some more, um, but ah we are all dust in the wind.
00:19:51
Speaker
We are all okay. Anyway, I'm not singing that freaking song right Um, I want to hear, I'd like to, shoot, how can I figure, a story. I mean, I'm like, hey, tell me a story. That's not what I mean. But I would like, I would, um a good,
00:20:08
Speaker
you got you brought up about how people can get scared. have you Have you been on a hunt where you yourself have been to the point where it's like, I have to step out of here? One time, man.
00:20:20
Speaker
One time. Yeah. It was, uh, it was an E town and I was going in for a pre investigation when I'm going inside a business or somebody's house, I want to do a pre investigation during the day.
00:20:30
Speaker
I want to see, you know, where the hotspots are for electricity, yada, yada, yada, yada get a lay of the land. Um, I went to, it was a building ah in Elizabethtown, Kentucky.
00:20:42
Speaker
I went in and it has a really strong history with the civil war, you know, and I was told that this one room they kept prisoners in. Uh, when they caught him coming through, um, the, the, uh, Confederate soldiers, I said, okay, let me go in there and check this out real quick and just to, you know, take a look at it.
00:21:03
Speaker
There was a ghost squatting in the in the floor. He couldn't have been probably a hundred pounds, man. He was, a man you know, just not being fed, ah you know, while in captive in captivity.
00:21:19
Speaker
And the look in his eye, man, was so evil. And he just jumped at me screaming. And my ass went through the door back that way. but And that's the only time it's the only time I've ever ran.
00:21:31
Speaker
As a matter of fact, my team saw me run out the door and they thought, oh, my God, we've never seen you run. What are we doing here? That means that means they should run. Yeah, it was intense, man.
00:21:46
Speaker
right. Oh, wow. Okay.
00:21:50
Speaker
what um What's your what's your method ah your methodology? In other words, once you've finished recording, doing your video and your audio, and you're going through all your ah your evidence that you've gathered, what's your methodology of screening it, pointing out, ah deciphering what's garbage and what's real, basically, or allegedly real?
00:22:17
Speaker
Yeah, ah first off, I don't change it, man. It's raw. I might get the volume up a little bit or take the volume down, depending on what's going on. Or um maybe a video or a picture, I might add a little bit more light to it, you know, excuse me, just so I can see.
00:22:34
Speaker
But that is a long, long method. If you think if I'm doing four hours, five hours worth of recording on one voice recorder and I have five of those things, you know, think about that.
00:22:48
Speaker
And it's not just listening and go straight through. was like, whoa, what was that? Stop it. Reanalyze. See what you got. Now do that with five voice recorders, say four cameras, all kinds of um a video camera footage.
00:23:04
Speaker
It takes a while. It takes a while. Um, and I, of course do it on a computer. I download everything to the computer and start running it through a program. ah It's called audacity, which is great.
00:23:16
Speaker
Oh, okay. I was, I, I, I, I have actually used that myself from time to time for audio, uh, editing. Um, okay. What, how long do you usually spend on a hunt? It's like time wise.
00:23:28
Speaker
I, of course it depends. I'm sure the size of the area, but, um, That completely depends on how much information I have, man, how much stuff I have to look through.
00:23:41
Speaker
I've gone as at times two weeks, not constant, of course, you know I had to go to work, but two weeks looking at evidence. um And sometimes it's frustrating, man, because you come up with two EVPs.
00:23:56
Speaker
It's like, okay, well, shit, I got two. Yeah.
00:24:00
Speaker
that's I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I mean, that's not a, it's not a, it's not an L to take. I mean, you get any evidence at all, ah you know, you might as well chalk that up as a win.
00:24:15
Speaker
Yeah, I guess, I guess you can look at it like that, man, but you know, I'm so used to getting so much evidence. ah um But I've been in very haunted places, man, places where they meet you at the door. Even it's crazy. Hmm.
00:24:29
Speaker
So this is something because, you know, I've ah i've had experiences and stuff. What's the, is it just add to the spook factor? What's the point in only doing investigations? i see that a lot of investigators only do any stuff at night.
00:24:46
Speaker
You want ghost to be comfortable, man. You want them to be comfortable. and Oh God, excuse me. and it It really angers me to see people run into a building, you know, and start ah screaming, act like they're in charge. And well, they're not going to get anything. You know, what ghost is going to hang around say, well, okay, this is kind of an abrasive dude. I'm out of here.
00:25:13
Speaker
um So the best way, the the way I take it is to go in um at nighttime. And I've met a lot of ghosts during the day as well. Don't get me wrong here. You can do an investigation a day. that That can be done. No problem.
00:25:28
Speaker
But they are more comfortable at night. And if you just go in calmly, patiently, and act like a human being, well, you're going to get a lot of people come around you and see what you're doing.
00:25:39
Speaker
you know Curiosity factor. Absolutely. you think So ghosts are just as curious about us as we are them? Absolutely, man.
00:25:51
Speaker
Absolutely. um ah If I had hours, I could tell you all kinds of stuff that I've encountered, but um most all ghosts have always met
Curiosity of Ghosts & Potential Dangers
00:26:05
Speaker
me at the door. As soon as I come in, they're down there saying, hey, who are you? What you doing? That kind of thing. you know
00:26:13
Speaker
Just like i said, be a nice guy, man. Just be a nice guy.
00:26:19
Speaker
Don't be a dick, please. What if the the ghost is what the ghost is being an asshole? Can I be an asshole back then? i mean, just saying, but I but i do ask that jokingly, of course, but I do want to bring up or ask the question, because I know it was you had brought it up in in in that one episode.
00:26:43
Speaker
Some of this is, i've I've never really sat down and watched a lot of that stuff, so but A lot of this is kind of new to me. um But yeah, like like like Michael said, greets you at the door. um What... Now I lost my train of thought.
00:27:00
Speaker
Fudge. have you been harmed? And because i know and know it's been stated that it is possible to be harmed by a ghost. Yeah, well, you know, um you kind of got to define harmed.
00:27:18
Speaker
you know want a scratch, a bruise, um an and an unpleasant feeling. i've i've I've had my eyes poked. you know i've had That would be a harm. that would be harm and we can We can count that as a harm. Sure, man.
00:27:32
Speaker
I've had been setting up equipment and had yanked from me and thrown em across the room. um
00:27:41
Speaker
Yeah, poked, prodded, hair pulled. things like that, but nothing that I would say, okay, yeah, I'm i'm in fear of my life right now. Never nothing like that. All right. that's I guess that would have been my my ultimate question. Have you ever heard of anything like that happening? Because I'm sure you probably talk to other ghost hunters occasionally, share stories.
00:28:10
Speaker
I was wondering if if if you've heard any story where people have gotten hurt. And I'm not, I'm only asking, I'm i'm only asking just for, for the stories themselves to what's out there.
00:28:24
Speaker
And when that happens, it's usually the ghost hunters hurting himself or herself, you know, get freaked out and run off the stairs. It's like, okay, well, there you go. You know, broke a leg. But, uh, I've never heard anybody tell me that they've had been harmed in that way by a ghost, a demon. Yes, absolutely.
00:28:46
Speaker
That's a good question, Benji. You ever have to worry about... um shoot You want bring that one back up, Michael? Sorry. um Ever worry about attachments once you leave a place? Yep.
00:28:58
Speaker
Yep. They've come home with me. and who Had one lady. She was pretty nice, actually. um Doggone him. What was her name? Uh, she came home with me and woke me up one day and, uh, I spun in the bed to see who it was. you know, i felt her breath on my ear.
00:29:17
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um and you know, when you're just coming out of sleep, it's like, okay, I'm having a dream type thing. And I turned around and looked and I see her running through my bedroom door to leave.
00:29:29
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I was like, okay, well she followed me. Um, my Chihuahua hated her.
00:29:39
Speaker
I think Chihuahuas hate anything but their own master. Yeah, she took ah she took my son's drum set and you know the bass drum. She rolled it. you know Nobody's around it. She just rolls it across the floor.
00:29:51
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Things like that. but you know you know She finally went home. We got we got her out there. Do you have anything like that on camera? Or been are on video evidence?
Capturing Ghost Evidence
00:30:02
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At my house. Just in general? like from from ah From a hunt or anywhere? Actually... I have a picture of her. My son took it and she's standing behind me.
00:30:14
Speaker
Um, she was a nurse in the civil war and you, I don't know if you guys know this, but they wore something that looks like a nun's a habit. Kind of, you know? Um, and yeah, she's standing behind me. She's got this garb on man. Just kind of looking at me. Uh, yeah. So I have that.
00:30:31
Speaker
Uh, you know how many pictures I've caught of a ghost? Not a damn one. Okay. I have never caught one. People around me have, but I've never caught one.
00:30:44
Speaker
Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. So just mostly isn't just all audio or EVPs. EVPs. I've got odd things on camera. That was a good question.
00:30:55
Speaker
That was a good question, Benji. I'm not going to. I'm definitely going to circle back to that here here in a second. Do you want put a pin in that? um You had said other people.
00:31:06
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around you have, have, have gotten pictures. Have you ever worked with other ghost hunters? I know you, you said you brought up a, you, you've had a crew before. Absolutely. ever did collaborations?
00:31:18
Speaker
Absolutely, man. All the time. Um, if a ghost hunter calls me and says, Hey, we need help with this. I'm on the way, man. You know? Um, but now you gotta be, you gotta be careful with this stuff. Holy shit.
00:31:29
Speaker
Uh, I, I went on an investigation with a group. I, I didn't know them very well. I heard of them. ah and they took me out to the woods to some fort out there and started praying to the trees and stuff. And I thought I might be in a wrong place. You know what I mean?
00:31:46
Speaker
Is it a witch's covenant? There you go. which just coming Yeah, there is. i So just, just a little, uh, little backstory of the area we live in.
00:31:57
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cause Curtis and I are from the same, or we're in the same area.
Local Ghost Legends
00:32:01
Speaker
Um, I'm not from this area, but I reside here. Um, oh shoot now the witch's name escapes my freaking uh is it talking about the brandenburg witch yes but she's got an actual name not the brandenburg witch something else which but basically the mead county that's a big thing every every october too uh you know know much about that have you been on one of those hunts oh nobody has
00:32:30
Speaker
I've tried so hard to get to her grave site. Apparently, if you if a male goes to her grave site, she is going to pop up and say hello. And you better be a gentleman from what understand.
00:32:41
Speaker
It's here in Meade County. um Find out when to do it. it's You can't get in, man. This dude that owns it, unless you're a family and he's documented every grave in there, unless you're a family member, man, he's not letting you in.
00:32:56
Speaker
It's a private type thing. And I don't sneak into places like that. you know It's like, okay, no. So yeah I haven't gotten to her yet, man. She's the only witch in this area that had actually been hanged for being a witch.
00:33:14
Speaker
Only one. yeah
00:33:18
Speaker
It's not the Brandenburg witch, but they celebrate Brandenburg. But it's an adjacent city or it's all in the same area. ah right how Oh my gosh. This is going to be killing me all night, but I'm not going to stop.
00:33:31
Speaker
a Anybody down there in the audience wants to Google the Brandenburg witch for me, go for it. Hit that up. so um so With that being said, I want to so i want to circle back to Benji's questions. Have you ever worked with the psychic medium?
00:33:49
Speaker
Do you know any? I don't. I don't even know. if i'm I'm just as skeptical about ah psychics as I am about ghosts.
00:34:00
Speaker
so And I am the same. I've had a lot of meetings with them. They've asked me to come and and meet with them and i have not met an actual psychic medium yet. I know they exist, man.
00:34:12
Speaker
and People out there are talented, but everybody that I've been asked to meet with is a charlatan. So um there you are. Okay.
00:34:24
Speaker
Cool. Well, Benji, there's, there's your answers.
00:34:29
Speaker
Hell no. Don't work with me or may not be real.
Skepticism about Psychic Mediums
00:34:34
Speaker
What was that? glu Don't work with them phonies.
00:34:41
Speaker
i and If I met somebody legitimate and they could prove it, man, I'd be on board, but, uh, I mean, you're you're kind of you're you're kind of in the same boat as as psychics, whether you believe in psychics or or not. You're you're kind of in the same boat when it comes to skeptics and and stuff like Blaze himself.
00:35:00
Speaker
Prove to me that ghosts exist. you know You know, like, well, you could say that you've seen them and everything else, but, you know, That only goes so far too with with a skeptic. They're going to go, yeah, okay. you know I've seen spirits too.
00:35:17
Speaker
I work in a liquor store. You know? that's so um so So, you know, you're kind of got that same uphill battle that a psychic is going have. Battletown witch. Battletown witch. Thank you, Michael. unless sir That's the BS. That's the witch. I'm going to do my own research to find out where this grave is.
00:35:38
Speaker
I might happen to know the guy. I might know somebody knows the guy. I might be able to get us in there. I don't know. i'm just All right, but he carries a shotgun, brother. Well, I mean, if if if if he's open to if he's open to allowing us in there, I'm not going worried about a shotgun.
00:35:52
Speaker
Hmm. Something you said, Glick, you're talking about, okay, or um am I going to know one or find somebody that is actually a psychic, right? A medium. I've had a ghost tell tell me I'm fake.
00:36:06
Speaker
An actual ghost tell me, hey, he's a fake. Who's Leah Smock? Yeah. Who's Leah Smock?
00:36:20
Speaker
I don't know. i don't know I don't know who Leah Smock is, Michael. I think those are just the ADHD ramblings. of Leah Smock is a Battletown witch. Oh, that's her name name.
00:36:33
Speaker
Oh. Okay. Fuck yeah. i I'm not prepared for this. i'm not the ghost guy, though, Glick. and then
00:36:44
Speaker
Like I care about Kentucky? but that so Come on, man. i want to i want to touch on I want to touch on the standard oh of evidence. um Just real quick, because this is where our brain keeps going all night.
00:37:01
Speaker
I'm familiar with the science method, um like peer review et cetera. Is there any of that within the ghost hunting community where you guys will share evidence, peer review, like um you're listening to an EVP, one person might hear a specific thing, somebody else might.
00:37:23
Speaker
is there Is there like a consensus? Is there, you guys ever get together and share evidence?
Collaboration & Peer Review in Ghost Hunting
00:37:29
Speaker
Let's say, let's say you know a network of ghost hunters that have all hunt at the same place, relatively around the same time, you guys.
00:37:37
Speaker
Is there ever anybody that gets together and compares notes and evidence to see if there's more of a peer review consensus on this stuff?
00:37:47
Speaker
Absolutely. All the time, all the time, man. You know, if I have a doubt about something, I'll send it to, ah ghost hunters who I trust that are, are, uh, doing the same thing. I am just taking solid evidence.
00:38:00
Speaker
And if I have a question about it, man, I'll send it to them. They'll send it back, you know, and say, no, that's not an EVP. So that goes out. Even, even if I think it might be, um, if, if I get somebody telling me who I trust and said, no, it's not it.
00:38:13
Speaker
It's out. It goes, man. It's not kept. Okay. All right. Are you, do you only do investigations in your area? Because I mean, Kentucky has some pretty, pretty hot spots. Bobby Mackey's Waverly Hill. Bobby Mackey's obviously probably one of the most popular right outside of Waverly Hills.
00:38:35
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ah There's some other places there as well. Um, I won't bore people by rattling off a bunch of names and showing how much of a nerd I am, but do you get outside of your local area and or do you get outside of Kentucky into other areas?
00:38:51
Speaker
Yeah, I have many times, many times. And you know what it's going to depend on, uh, the mileage is going to depend on the severity of the hunt. Okay. If there is, if I get word that there's children in the house, you know, I'll, I'll go to Ohio, uh, not Northern Ohio, but, uh,
00:39:09
Speaker
Cause I know people along the way that can take care of it, but absolutely, man. Absolutely. Um, I guess I would probably go, you know, I do an overnighter somewhere. wouldn i Wouldn't, that wouldn't, wouldn't bother me.
00:39:26
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Benji, you, oh, you're asking some of the same questions I had. ah the portal question. Um, So this of course, I'm going to bring up because it it was've i've heard I've heard you talk about it.
00:39:41
Speaker
What is a portal? How does it work? How do you know when there is or isn't one there other than ah video or photo evidence? um Are they closable? Because I know you've talked helping people um you've talked about um helping Ghosts go to the other side or something
Concept of Portals in Ghost Hunting
00:40:03
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like that. Yeah. Crossover crossover. Thank you. um Is that how the portal comes into play?
00:40:11
Speaker
No, no, not at all. ah And if I could give you a straight scientific answer, Blazin, I would do it. I can't. I know they exist.
00:40:22
Speaker
um I know they can pour all kinds of fun things out of them. Uh, they can be closed. Yes, they can be closed. Um, but it takes a lot to do that.
00:40:34
Speaker
lot of energy, lot of people. yeah I couldn't do that. If I had to go in and do it by myself, man, I, you know what? Uh, no, it's not going to work, but yeah, they're, they're very, and you'll feel it when you get into a place, the portal gives off so much energy, man. It's, it's, uh, I want to liken it to a wormhole in space. If I can do that.
00:40:56
Speaker
And that is about as close as I can get to explaining it. So. The energy, is there any new way to measure this energy? Like I know ah we typical energy when talking about physics would be in joules.
00:41:12
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Paranoidly. here Army of Darkness. i larry it is There it is. man i love it clinton I love that movie. Are you a movie guy, Curtis? Absolutely, man. Man, i might have I might have you come up on a Friday night with Michael and I just talk about movies.
00:41:27
Speaker
I actually drive my wife nuts with my movie knowledge. You know, ask her, hey, you saw this, right? Just shake your head. Movie knowledge. Don't even embarrass him because we all know who the king of movie trivia is. don't bring another Don't bring me another victim to embarrass, please. I'm not going down that trail yet right now. But, but, but, cheers.
00:41:54
Speaker
You said that you
00:42:01
Speaker
oh no you said that you you you help the spirits find their way home to the light, whatever the case may be. I've always been curious about that because I've heard a lot of people say that. You see it on TV shows, you know, the the paranormal shows, like we we're going to quote unquote exercise the house, exercise the demon or or help the spirit move on to the next role.
00:42:30
Speaker
How do you go about doing that? yeah what what is the process with that man like i said when i when i first started is you got to be a human being brother you gotta you you gotta go in impatient you gotta to go in calm um sometimes it'll throw you sometimes it gets pretty hectic but um i cannot do it i can't i have to call on help this is why you know come in with a, with the mental state of calmness also come in and let who, whatever God that you worship ah know that, Hey, I'm going to go do this. I might need some help.
00:43:07
Speaker
Can you be on standby? and So you, you kind of go in those directions, man, and really ask for help. And 50% of the times it works out. So, and and this is, this is a, this is a subject that is,
00:43:23
Speaker
up for debate. I've actually had the conversation with people in the past. I've seen it on, on other forums and other shows in your personal opinion. Uh, why do you think ghosts are lingering around? Why do you think that they, uh, they, they're still here?
00:43:39
Speaker
Um, look, there's a, there's a, everybody has a reason. Every person, every ghost out there has their own specific reason for doing this.
Why Ghosts Stay Behind
00:43:50
Speaker
Um, One little girl, um she was held back by a a ghost that went with her, a lady that went with her, passed with her.
00:44:01
Speaker
She held her back. Another lady I talked to, a ghost, she I asked, do you want to cross her? said, no, no, no. I like it where I'm at. I to stay right here. And then I've had several people tell me, yeah, I need help.
00:44:14
Speaker
And that's when you try to do what you can, man, you know. You know, that that that that ghost that's like, nah, want to stay here has got a chip on their shoulder and a vendetta against someone if they want to sit there and mess with us for a while. I think it would be pretty dope if I'm given the opportunity to either go wherever the hell my spirit goes at the end of the day when I die or if they're like, yo, if you want, you can hang out and fuck with people. I'm like,
00:44:42
Speaker
and I spent my entire life fucking with people. I'm going to hang out and continue to fuck with people. Mainly Blake is if he's still alive. Oh, man. oh if i if i were to die If I were to die tomorrow, i already have a list of people I'm going to fuck with. you know You think about it, though. You get bored with that.
00:45:05
Speaker
Don't you think, man, after, say, a millennium, you're just like, I'm tired this shit. I've seen it all. I'm trying to go home, man. I mean, I guess if you got tired of it or got bored with it, but, you know, then maybe you could, obviously you have the option if you want to go on to the next world or not. But, I mean, just think of, oh, you get new people, like, every 100 years or 50 years or whatever, you know, or if I'm just chilling in my house,
00:45:32
Speaker
and I don't like the new people that are living there, then I just do all kinds of fucking crazy shit, make the walls bleed, and, you know, the kids float around, and then they leave, and maybe I get new people that are cool that move in, and they're like, yo, what up, ghost dude? And i'm like, what up, living people? money i think I think part of breaking up the boredom would be finding new and interesting ways to fuck with people.
00:45:53
Speaker
yeah Here's something I don't have an answer for. i've thought about this for years. It's like, okay, wait a minute. If a ghost decides to stay here, if a person decides to stay, I really don't like the term ghost all that much, but if they decide to stay here, man, and then all of a sudden they're like, okay, I'm done. I'm going to go. And they can't.
00:46:17
Speaker
And they're asking me to help them. Why? Don't you wonder that sometimes? Like, okay, why can't you do it? You're, you're the spirit, you know? Yeah. um So something's keeping them here. i don't know. I don't know.
00:46:29
Speaker
So you said you don't like calling them ghosts. I apologize. I've been referring to the ghost. for No, no, no. It's cool. It's cool. The entire thing. I'm sorry about that. No, man. It's cool. It's cool. I'm good with it because everybody does it and I'm used to it.
00:46:41
Speaker
You know, if you think about it, what's a ghost is nothing more than a human without a body, man. You know, what? And the funny thing about that is, you know, if a person, if a person is good when they pass and they stay around, well, there's still going be some good people.
00:46:56
Speaker
You know what I mean? but if they're and if they're an asshole then they're gonna be an asshole ghost you run across em man believe me they're out there probably hunting their relatives this guy's gonna be an asshole ghost
Appearance of Ghosts & Misinterpretation
00:47:13
Speaker
um i forgot what you were taught commenting about the same rules for psychedelics but i like psychedelics um
00:47:23
Speaker
I want i want i want to do want to go back. ah Somebody brought up pareidolia. Pareidolia is something I'm familiar with. Glick, are you familiar with pareidolia? Not right off the top of notdolia a word Pareidolia is a mental phenomenon or brain phenomenon, cognitive phenomenon. where we is Our brains, were we're pattern seekers.
00:47:46
Speaker
and Our brains way our brains function. and We'll see things. You ever like sitting there on the toilet and you're staring up at the freaking the ceiling or or or or the floor and the way the the patterns are, you see a face.
00:47:57
Speaker
You see a face. okay yeah yeah yeah yeah That's paradole. like yeah Like when people see Jeebus in the potato chip? Exactly. Yes, that's paradole. Is that something that's very common within the ghost hunting or a lot of lot of misinterpretations because of that?
00:48:14
Speaker
No. No, not at all. Actually, you know, that's more in the religious communities. like Like he said, you know, ah saw Jesus in a potato chip or saw Mother Mary coming out of a faucet in the ghettos or whatever, you know whatever man.
00:48:29
Speaker
um yeah But no. um you Again, you analyze it, you analyze it, you analyze it. And if it looks like pareidolia, then let it go, man. It's not it's not evidence. Oh, I agree.
00:48:42
Speaker
Okay.
00:48:45
Speaker
But at times, ghosts will actually, ah they're going to if they get the energy to actually appear before you, if you can see them physically almost, you know sometimes they look a little off.
00:49:01
Speaker
They're trying to put this together themselves. You know what i mean? And so, yeah, it might be a case of, okay, that might be pareidolia, but at the same time, no, that's you know see every feature on this dude.
00:49:14
Speaker
His ears are just too big, whatever. You know what I mean? So, uh, Angel, uh, Tarantula in the chat has brought up a couple of times. The idea of quote unquote possession where a ghost or a spirit, uh, will take over a human body.
00:49:35
Speaker
Um, she wanted to know, do you think that, uh, you can allow to coexist in the same body? So I guess I wonder if, I think she's maybe wondering, uh,
00:49:46
Speaker
If a spirit can be like, well, as long as you're cool with it, I'm cool with it. I'm inside you now. And maybe to the two the two spirits become one and one human so host.
00:50:00
Speaker
That would be consensual, man, for a spirit or a ghost to inhabit another person's body. They can't just step in willy-nilly. um Demonic possession, on the other hand, they can come on in.
00:50:14
Speaker
And why that is, I don't know. ah Different rules, I guess, for, you know, location, location, up or down. But I've never seen it. I've never seen that happen. Consent does matter.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yes. A hundred percent. That's like my number one rule in the world. That's like my only rule of consent. But Ghosty can do some things, man, that will really piss you off.
00:50:39
Speaker
um yeah i got called to a house this little girl was 15 very beautiful little girl and some ghost was just hanging out he was a 30 year old man hanging on her bedroom so i had to get him out there um bad man man that's some that's some creepy purple ghost no yeah just think about it like i said man a ghost is the same as they were when they were had a body they're just now you know, on the other side, they passed, it you know, crossed over.
00:51:13
Speaker
Now, when I say, i mentioned ghost and spirits, when a body ascends, when a person ascends, they can't come back. No problem. Then they're a spirit and then they are, you know, much more powerful, much more willing to help.
00:51:26
Speaker
um And a lot of family members will see this of their own family.
00:51:34
Speaker
ah Do you, but do you believe in the, in the theory that over time, ah you know, a ghost may have the best intentions or a spirit, whatever the case may be, um may have the best
Nature of Ghosts Over Time
00:51:48
Speaker
intentions. And it may be super chill, but over time, because of being in that spirit realm or the spirit world, they start to lose their mind. They start to lose what connected them to their human side.
00:52:00
Speaker
And that's where we get a lot of our poltergeists or, you know, our more um violent entities and and and and stuff like that, where, you know, you got the yeah you know, the door slamming and stuff like that. Do you think that's, do you think that, you know, that, that, that, that happens or just generally you are who you are when you die?
00:52:21
Speaker
Nope. It happens, brother. Think about somebody who is locked up in a prison and gets sent to solitary confinement for six months. He's not coming out of that cage right in head most times.
00:52:32
Speaker
So ghost is the same way. They get frustrated. They feel like they're in solitary because nobody can see him. Nobody can talk to him and they're trying. But, um, yeah, you can see them losing their mental, you know, faculties, uh, over something like that.
00:52:48
Speaker
And I have seen it. Yes.
00:52:51
Speaker
Word. I, um, I want to go ahead and slow. I want to go ahead and start rolling to a break, right? Real quick. We're coming up on the hour. Uh, we're only blocked it for about two hours.
00:53:02
Speaker
Uh, I think I want to come back and tell ghost story or spirit stories of encounters. Um, I don't personally have one. I have have one that was told to me about me.
00:53:14
Speaker
I'll share that one. is real short and sweet. But I know, Curtis, I know you have a bunch. I would would love for you to share with the audience. Glick, I know, has has one or two, I think. I've got several of them. I'll try to keep them short and sweet. But real quick before we go to break, if it's right. Yeah, go ahead. I want to go back to the psychic conversation.
00:53:33
Speaker
When we were talking about psychics. Curtis, do you ever feel like you might be into that realm of the psychic world with the way that you say that you, you feel and you connect and you can talk to them? Like you said, they greet you at the door. Sometimes they just have been a full on conversation with you.
00:53:47
Speaker
Do you feel like you might be a little bit more into the psychic world than, than, than you think you are? will say this, man. Um, I, I, I will go into the house. Okay. A haunted place.
00:54:00
Speaker
And I'll be able to tell you if it's male, female age group. Um, ah are they angry? Are they happy? um Things of that nature. Just by walking through.
00:54:12
Speaker
i wouldn't call it psychic myself. ah It's just I feel, you know. um'm I'm not really sure what psychic means because I've never experienced it myself. So more into the the sensitive world. jar're You're more in tuned with your sixth sense, so to say.
00:54:29
Speaker
ah to into Intuitiveness? Intuitiveness. to have Intuitiveness. I don't know. you know some I do know this, and I know how people can get to that point if people want to.
00:54:42
Speaker
It's doable. It's doable, man. Anybody can be. So. but Gleick, you have anything like ah else before we roll into a quick break?
00:54:53
Speaker
No, let's take quick break. I want to thank producer Mike tonight for for helping us on the on on on the back, and he's going to roll us into a break.
00:55:30
Speaker
Cause I'm asking for trouble, don't you know?
00:55:53
Speaker
Baby
00:56:28
Speaker
Food in Rally, baby Food in Rally, baby Food in Rally all night long Night was a warning Should've seen it coming from the start But that little liver could hold it
00:57:25
Speaker
I take white shots for my size, you know won't dispute it And if there's something I ain't seen before, I shoot it And if there's mezcal in her glass, I'll shoot it too And child, if there is something I ain't done before, don't do it Cause it'll probably be the ruin of you
00:57:58
Speaker
Well, welcome back. um Sorry, guys. You know, the hour mark, my old man, old man bladder. So we're going to press on with some stories.
00:58:12
Speaker
I know Curtis has got some cool ass stories. He was ah ah he was touching on one today, but going to let him let him go into it. Curtis, which one was it, man?
00:58:27
Speaker
It was one weird we said we weren't going to bring up, but I think it's a good, I think it's after watching the audience, I think it's ah it's it's it's a good story to bring up. I'll tell you what, i've I've got one for you that shocked the hell out of me.
00:58:41
Speaker
um I was doing the theater in um E-Town. You know the State Theater there, Josh? Yeah. Okay. I'm up there doing that place, and it's got a long, long history, man. You know, um, the balcony, was reserved reserved for, uh, initially blacks to have to sit in a segregation timeframe, which yuck. Right.
00:59:06
Speaker
So then they turned it into a place for couples to go. So they had love seats up there. All right. Now they have regular seats. I was up there investigating.
00:59:17
Speaker
And one of my investigators, a female says, Hey, something just touched my thigh. Um, All right.
00:59:27
Speaker
I sent the two ah females downstairs into the main theater area yeah and then something touched me and places that, you know, will kind of make you blush if I had to say it out loud.
00:59:39
Speaker
ah So I go back and listen to to this information, man. And can I, a guy this is kind of X-rated stuff here or R-rated. Can I say it? we We are 18 and up, not safe for work network. You can say whatever you want.
00:59:55
Speaker
Yeah. All right. I've got EVPs, man. And she's saying, oh, yes, come on, fuck me. This is a ghost telling you this. Nice. She says it twice, man.
01:00:07
Speaker
Dude, you have those EVPs. Those are the EVPs I would love to fucking share, man. Yes. definitely have those. Yeah, absolutely. did did you did Did you get some ghost pussy? No, didn't do her.
01:00:19
Speaker
Come on. with that actual Sexual healing with no feeling.
01:00:27
Speaker
ah but Yeah. That's a once in a lifetime offer, man. You gotta, you gotta, gotta get it when you can. Well, think about it, man. Would ever think that that would be a request? I mean, I've been, I've had ghost requests to hold my hands to kiss me or me kiss them, but.
01:00:43
Speaker
i mean That was just straight. and It sounded like she was already busy. so It was like, wow, what is going on here? I never thought. i mean Do ghosts get horny?
01:00:55
Speaker
ah Casper and casper castor the horny ghost hasn't heard of hashtag me too movement. yeah i mean That was a first for me, man. Isn't cheating if you hook up with a ghost?
01:01:15
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ah Would you know? Maybe you already did and just don't know it. There you go, Blazing. Hashtag me too. those those Those why you sleep a nocturnal emissions. There go.
01:01:35
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ah Yeah, so that that was one that i I thought was funny, man. I just didn't see it coming. When I heard it, I was like, wow, I can't believe that happened. My Yeah. I want I want to, Oh God, I want listen to those EVPs.
01:01:48
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Yeah. would love I would love to hear them. ah So anybody who wants to brave it, go to the theater, state theater and, uh, you know, E-Town and sit up in the balcony and the left side when you're looking at the screen and I don't know, uh, enjoy whatever you're looking for, I guess. um
01:02:14
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I mean, maybe, maybe like you like you said, you're still the same person you were before you died when you were a ghost. Maybe ghosts have needs. you know Maybe they you know they got needs and wants and desires too. Who are we to judge?
01:02:28
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We don't kink shame, please. kiwi is here oh yeah who But yeah, guys, I've got a million of these stories, man.
01:02:40
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Man, we are this is your stage tonight, my friend. So go for it We are here for some um ghost spirit hunting stories or in encounters. or Yeah, the the first hour is more of a Q&A thing. so the um Something i wouldn't I would love for people to hear is relatives as ghosts or spirits. I'm sorry, not ghosts, spirits.
01:03:04
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um I got you saying it now. Yeah. I have an ant man who, uh, she passed in the mid nineties and she's been so involved with our family ever since everybody who has passed and I'm 60 now. So, you know, we're all old, um, at my grandmother's deathbed, my mother's, uh, my uncle buddy, everybody, she has always been there and she always visits the hospital even when they're sick, you know, not just on the deathbed type thing.
01:03:37
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And I've encountered her every time. And I'm like, wow, that is insane, man. So if people would just open up a little bit and you got to understand when when a person has passed, they can come back and visit if they've if they've ascended.
01:03:53
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They can come back and visit anytime. And every time that you are involved in a tragic situation or a situation of a lot of joy, they're going to be there. And I promise you, if you look for them, you'll see them. You'll know.
01:04:07
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Not physically see them as in, okay, I see her floating around there. But you'll you'll know they're there. Just look, man. They're there. there now Now, i did say i did say I had one ghost story to share.
01:04:18
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And it just happens to piggyback off what you had just talked about. Relatives.
01:04:24
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Of course, i i this isn't my person. It's my story, but I was two when it happened. So it was told to me. Apparently, i was a toddler. I was underneath my crib.
01:04:36
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chilling doing toddler things i plan with blocks i don't know but apparently i was under there talking to someone and um everybody just come to the conclusion that i was talking to my dead grandfather because i kept referring to him as grandpa bob but i was just a toddler talking to some some random random thing that wasn't underneath the crib with me so That's basically my my ghost story. That's the only ghost story i have. um when i ah When I do work, guys, um be it the paranormal or the other stuff that I do, I will call on my ancestors, what I call my ancients, to back me up when I do it.
Ancestral Protection & Personal Stories
01:05:25
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um And um I think everybody probably should do that as well, just for protection, because they will come. They will gather around you, man. So, you know, that's something to think about if you're going to step out for the first time.
01:05:41
Speaker
get some Get some backup, man. Yes, Michael. My story sucked. I didn't say it wasn't. Speaking of the the relative thing, um like I said, I i could tell you guys stories for days, but This is one that really kind of sticks out shortly after my oldest daughter was born.
01:06:01
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She's 20 now. um I started noticing like out of the corner of my eye, usually between like when she would go to bed at night or she was napping during the day, usually between where her bedroom was and where where I would be at, something out of the corner of my eyes.
01:06:16
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And it took me a few months and I finally realized it was a little, it was a little blonde hair girl and a little dress. And I didn't say anything to anybody. See her all the time. And every time we moved, she was there in between wherever my daughter was sleeping and we were at.
01:06:33
Speaker
And it took about four years, maybe right around four years, about the time my second daughter was born. My ex-wife and I were sitting in our living room one night and the girls, all of our bedrooms were upstairs and the girls were upstairs in bed. We were watching TV and I seen her on the stairs and I am paying no mind. I'm used to her at this point. It's been going on for four years.
01:06:54
Speaker
um And, ah I happen to look at my ex-wife and she's got this look on her face and I'm like, you know, play it off like, no what's you okay? What's wrong? You know, you you feeling all right?
01:07:08
Speaker
And she's like, yeah, yeah, I think everything's fine. And she went upstairs to check on the girls. said, what are you doing? She's like, I just want to make sure they're bed. I said, did you see her? And she's like, who? They're the little blonde hair girl.
01:07:19
Speaker
And she's like, yeah. Yeah, she's been with us since ah Austin was born. This just followed us everywhere we lived in Ohio, even when we moved down to South Carolina. She was around for a few years. Well, we found out shortly before we moved to South Carolina, her great grandmother passed away and going through old family pictures.
01:07:36
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The little girl turned out to be her great-great-grandmother because we found a picture of her in the same exact blue dress but or the same exact dress with her hair the same exact way. And it turned out she was her great-great-grandmother, and we just kind of chalked it up as kind of ah a guardian angel, a spirit, you know, watching over the girls, making sure they were safe.
01:07:57
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uh and everything uh you know making sure everything was calm cool and kosher and we i've seen her a couple times since usually when when things are crazy and things are getting a little stressful and hectic especially like with the girls we'll i'll see her pop up um but it was just kind of crazy to happen to just be going through her great grandmother's stuff and come across that picture and both of us knew exactly as soon as we've seen it who she was and and it all made sense at that at that moment so um To me, that's crazy awesome, man.
01:08:30
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You know
01:08:34
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Ghost story about your... is there Is there a ghost story about your mom, Glick?
01:08:39
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Yeah, I don't think... I think somebody's overstepping his producer roles. You're meant to be not seen and not heard. ah But, yes. So, my the whole... and And this is kind of an abbreviated story with my mom. So, my mom passed away about 15 years ago.
01:08:56
Speaker
She was cremated. um And when i when I initially got her ashes, was right before we left to go to South Carolina. So she got put ah she got put in a box and she got, you know, put in the closet.
01:09:12
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and And it was just kind of one of those things, you know, as well as we unpack, we'll find a spot for mom, whatever. I'm sitting at home one night, minding my business, it's late, and all hell breaks loose in that closet.
01:09:26
Speaker
I'm like, what the fuck is going on? get up go over to the closet everything is everywhere mom's ashes are sitting on the shelf i'm like well well that's a little odd but uh you know then i jokingly yelled at my mom thanks for making a mess that now i have to clean up so get everything cleaned up put her back in the box everything's cool for a little while and then a few months later it happens all over again and we were just and it just so happened we were getting ready to move into our house So I was like, screw it. I'm just going put her in the car until we move and everything like that.
01:09:59
Speaker
And she was out in my car for a few months. I was like, oh, shit. Mom's under my driver's seat. Fuck. I better bring her in. So I bring her in and I put her i put her up with with all my keepsakes. I've got a box with all my keepsakes and all my important stuff. Obviously, mom's ashes are pretty important. I don't want to lose them.
01:10:16
Speaker
and about And after about a week or two of her being there, again, I'm sitting there hanging out, playing video games, whatever. Everything. i mean just Shit comes flying off the shelves. Shit's flying out of the closet. I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. All right, mom, back to the car with you because there's nothing out there you can destroy.
01:10:32
Speaker
You know? And that's where she's been ever since because that seems to be where she's happiest at. ah And and it's ah it's a running joke here on the network, but my ex-girlfriend used to call her Rotary Geronja because she would slide out from under the seat if you were hitting your brakes too hard or took a corner too hard and slam into the back of your ankles.
01:10:54
Speaker
So she calls her road rage, road rage, but I leave her out there because that's apparently where she wants to fucking be is in my car. I don't know if that's, maybe she's watching over me and keeping me safe driving or but i don't know. maybe Maybe she's just as much a lunatic in the afterlife that she was when she was alive.
01:11:11
Speaker
ah Sounds to me like she's pissed off, man. But let me tell you, my, my, my mother-in-law, i never met her in flesh, man. When I met my wife, uh, first,
01:11:24
Speaker
Travel we did was to go to her mother's What do they call them now? um Life celebration Oh yeah Family's wonderful They told me everything about her mom and was It was cool man Until we got home And mom Apparently likes she she Like I said we never met in the flesh But she was going to change that pretty quick Really?
01:11:54
Speaker
Yeah, I cook a lot, man. It's like a hobby of mine. I cook a lot, man. So I bought this masa and, uh, put it up so I can make tortillas the next day.
01:12:05
Speaker
went to get it the next day is gone. I'm like, well, okay, shit. How in the hell does that happen? Um, looked everywhere for it. Couldn't find it. Then i see my wife go from the hallway back into, to the bedroom back there. Right.
01:12:22
Speaker
Um, my mother-in-law my wife look identical. So I went to follow her to ask her something and nobody's there. I come back out and I meet my wife coming this way. i said, did just go in the bedroom? She goes, no, no, no, no. no no And to seal the deal, man, she, my, my mother-in-law, uh, my wife has two children, uh, that live with uh, still, um,
01:12:46
Speaker
she was not allowed to smoke in the house, my mother-in-law. So ah now she blows it right in our face. Now that she's gone, we get this puff of cigarette smoke surrounding our heads. and like yeah we We get it. we get it we get it i'd I'd have to smack a ghost after that.
01:13:05
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but but
01:13:10
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No, man, but yeah, and to this day, she makes an appearance all the time in the house. I'll see her walk behind me. She'll you know move shit around ah and hide shit from me.
01:13:22
Speaker
and this shit She knows that I'm about to use. you know It's gone. and and You know what? None of it comes back, man. It's just gone. Huh.
01:13:33
Speaker
Man, she sounds like a better mother-in-law than I had. Just saying. You never had to meet her in the flesh. Yeah.
01:13:44
Speaker
ah Ghosted salt is real. I'd deal it, man. you know um I love it. To see her walk through the house or or to see her or to smell her cigarette smoke cause nobody smokes in our house.
01:13:58
Speaker
um But you'll see you'll smell it. i mean It's definitely cigarette smoke. um Yeah, it's her. It's her doing her business. Can't wait to meet her. in that you know After this, when I when i go, um want to meet her and say, okay, what the hell, man?
01:14:12
Speaker
yeah wasn' what's the deal where's my shit so do do you have any stories or any experiences with ghosts other than humans from and i say ghosts i meant spirits but uh i did a little inquiry online before this apparently animal spirits are a thing too yay nay confirm deny absolutely Absolutely, man.
Animal Spirits & War Stories
01:14:44
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I've, and I've got EVPs of this in a room and a dog is whining. Sorry. I was laughing at that dog. Well, it sounded like a dog who just needed to be petted. You know what i mean?
01:14:56
Speaker
Um, that's happened a few times. Um, had, uh, had video sent to me. Um, they, they weren't mine, um, of animal spirits leaving the animal's body.
01:15:11
Speaker
And you can you can see it. And people ask me, hey, can you check this out and make sure it's not a fake? And, you know, a majority of them are, yeah, sure. But there are those 10%, they're like, wow, this is this is awesome. You know what i mean?
01:15:27
Speaker
So, yeah. Yeah, they exist, man. No doubt about it.
01:15:35
Speaker
And I know the ah know the religious world is about to jump all over that one if they're actually listening. yeah well yeah but kids yeah i know i know I know under some some Christian doctrines animals don't have spirits or souls like humans, but some do. I'm not really worried about that.
01:15:55
Speaker
I'm worried about your field. ahead, Kurt. Um, so if you got but go ahead um Blazin, did you want to talk about what we talked about earlier, man?
01:16:12
Speaker
Yeah. so you had brought that. Okay. so um ah Curtis brought up a story about when he was in, in the military, when he was on, on a, on a deployment on an operation.
01:16:27
Speaker
um It asked me if if, if it was okay. I told him I wasn't too sure. Now, now that MoDog's here, hey, MoDog, you, you okay with a, with a, uh, combat slash related ghost story?
01:16:41
Speaker
You don't have to answer, ah but I'm gonna, I'm gonna let Curtis go ahead and tell it. Um, but I'm, I, I am going to, there's the warning. So go ahead, my dude.
01:16:56
Speaker
Okay. Um, This was in Bosnia, man. um We had gone in to separate the Serbs and the Bosnians from war and according to the Dayton Peace Corps.
01:17:06
Speaker
Anyway, comes down to this. There's a big valley called Tuzla Valley. Huge. Right in the middle of it, man, was this what they call a mountain. I call a massively big hill. You know, that kind of thing.
01:17:18
Speaker
So whoever owned that hill owned Tusla Valley because nothing comes in without being hit, right? Artillery, all kinds of things like this. So that hill was highly contested. the Thousands of soldiers died fighting up that hill to gain, ah you know, superiority on it.
01:17:35
Speaker
Okay. that's That's a setup. After we got them apart, we were assigned to take that, you know, on that hill. And we were a platoon up there, which is about 40 guys, you know, and, um, that's when things started happening that, that, uh, was just for me, it was a wonderful thing because this place was fucking haunted, man.
01:18:00
Speaker
Um, I had a soldier call me from, and this is, you know, uh, our small radios. I was Sergeant of the guard at night and he calls me and says, Sergeant Collins, are you coming up my tower?
01:18:12
Speaker
And these towers were put in and made their metal. And I turned around with my nods and looked at his tower. I said, no, I'm not coming up to your tower, man. All sudden, my soldier dives out of the tower.
01:18:22
Speaker
Bam, he's out. Didn't take the stairs. Somebody was marching up into his tower. And I'm sitting there watching, and there's nobody coming up this tower. um So a couple nights later, I'm ah i'm out there again.
01:18:37
Speaker
and it's kind of foggy outside. And one of my soldiers reported movement. And I turned and looked. And he said, movement in perimeter. And I turned. There's a soldier walking whither with a rifle, not in my uniform.
01:18:50
Speaker
So I take off like a bat out of hell. I've got my weapon drawn. You know, I'm going to get this guy. Follow him into the communication tent. And man, it's so, it's not pareidolia. I promise you this. I could see the laces on his boots.
01:19:06
Speaker
And I followed him in. um And the wonderful thing about the communication tent was there was no way out. It was just one way in. So I figured I got him. And I went running in, weapon drawn, nobody there.
01:19:20
Speaker
Nobody at all. Other things that happened there was we set up the booby traps around our perimeter. And when we did, as soon as we got done doing it, they went off one at a time in unison all the way around the perimeter.
01:19:35
Speaker
Nobody up there, nobody near them. They just one at a time went off. So, yeah, man, this is my soldiers had a good time with that one. And that went on for that went on for the entire time we were there.
01:19:48
Speaker
That kind of thing. yeah there you you no please These big, big bad infantrymen that I had with me, and they were they were great guys. They were good soldiers. I said, hey, man, let's do a seance.
01:20:03
Speaker
And not one day. you dont know Not today. Not today, Satan. They had nothing to do with that. I think that'd be the last place I'd want to do a seance. Not that i believe it would work, but and a in a war-torn area.
01:20:22
Speaker
Just that thought alone, like if shit were real, that would be probably the worst place to try to prove it. I'd be down. It looks like fuck it.
01:20:34
Speaker
I'm with you. i would have been like, fuck yeah, let's do this. Let's do it, Sarge. I'm in. But yeah, I had no takers that day, man. going to tell you what. And here's the funny thing. They'd sent a ah chaplain up to talk to our guys because that's the kind of um problem this was causing.
01:20:53
Speaker
Everybody's like, shit, I got to get out here. It's haunted. So the chaplain comes up and talks everybody. He said, oh, no, no, it can't be a ghost. No such thing. You know, yada, yada, yada. I had no equipment with me, so I couldn't prove it either way, you know, to the chaplain. But, you know, there it is.
01:21:08
Speaker
And them are looking at the chaplain and shaking their head. You're wrong. The chaplain already believes in spirits though. So, I mean, he can't tell you you're wrong. Well, it depends, man. And we're not going to get into this. I don't want to. It depends on your denomination, brother.
01:21:23
Speaker
It's true.
Ghosts vs. Spirits & Near-Death Experiences
01:21:25
Speaker
It's very true. Very true. There it is. did Did you have any other ghost experiences while you were in the spirit experiences when you' were in the military? I will break that habit.
01:21:35
Speaker
No, don't worry about that. What, what it is, um, blazing. It's not about, you know, a ghost and a spirit are two different animals. Um, Oh, Oh, okay. Different animals, man.
01:21:48
Speaker
Uh, a spirit has ascended. It's a human being that has ascended, gone on and is coming back to visit. That's the spirit. And they can do all kinds of things that a ghost cannot do.
01:22:01
Speaker
Um, a ghost on the other hand is a guy or a girl who has passed and has never ascended and stayed here and they're the same person they were when they passed man so f so you're you you're not the same person after you've ascended no sir you are not and not at all but in in which way they can move around they can be there, man. Like I was saying, they can be there in your saddest and happiest moments.
01:22:34
Speaker
Oh, okay. so Okay. I mean, okay. So they change in the aspect from a ghost where they can go and not go or where they have more freedom of movement. I was thinking the personality changes or something. That's what I was, was, that's, that's the change I was, I thought she,
01:22:51
Speaker
I would tell anybody this. If you want to start reading into this, start reading about the near death experiences and get it from people who are like doctors and nurses.
01:23:04
Speaker
Um, and they'll, they'll, they'll tell you it's all written in there, man. There's books and books on this stuff. And it'll tell you what's going to go, what's going to go down once you pass. Um, so I'd research that.
01:23:15
Speaker
I would definitely research that. NDA is none. Wait, near death. is square Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, NDEs. NDEs. I have actually heard, i haveve I've heard stories of NDEs from um other people.
01:23:29
Speaker
I know that's that's that's a big thing. I know it's an overlap with the spirits. um Community, I don't like saying it that way because that sounds marginalization. I don't like saying that. so um i have I have a pretty cool EVP, man. I don't know if you if you looked at all the stuff I have on YouTube.
01:23:49
Speaker
Not that I posted there in many damn years, but I asked for help, man. And you can actually hear a choir singing in harmony to help me out.
01:24:02
Speaker
if anybody paid attention to the intro, um except for the very last screaming end, the rest of the the the static, the EVP is actually from um your YouTube channel.
01:24:16
Speaker
and Okay. Okay. yeah So I did splice in one of your EVPs into the intro of this. So you guys want to listen back to that later on. That's in there. um Also, if you guys want to reach out to Curtis, if you guys have a haunting you guys want investigated, um I don't know if you're still in that game, but it seems like you are.
01:24:40
Speaker
ah did put...
Approach to Investigations
01:24:42
Speaker
I put your email address in the description, but I put the three hour paranormal at gmail.com. Is that a valid email?
01:24:51
Speaker
No, I, I, I kind of, man, I left the team. I told everybody, okay, we're done. I went solo. I didn't, cause it was getting too much. Like they were trying to be like ghost adventures.
01:25:04
Speaker
And, you know, screaming, the yelling. And ah so, no, if if they want to email me at my personal email address, the one that you have, Coker at, you know, 1973 at gmail.com.
01:25:16
Speaker
I will. ah Hey, Glick, you want to go ahead and ah carry the conversation while I make that ah that edit right now? Okay. but okay ah when it comes to When it comes to investigations for you, Kurt, is it solely is it is it based off requests that people have have have i asked you to come and check? the or Or like I said before, there's some places that are well known that that you just see if you can get into and and and go for your own personal contact.
01:25:51
Speaker
Both. both um Most of them are requests. Most people are requesting it. And that's probably 80% of how I get into places.
01:26:04
Speaker
But I also go to government. You know, the the town mayor or whoever. I see, a you know, there's a church that I wanted to hit for so long and they won't let me in because it's a it's a hazard, you know.
01:26:19
Speaker
Yeah. So they won't let me in a man, but I've been trying for years <unk> to talk to mayor and let me in this place, you know, anytime I'm sorry, Hardin
Environmental Impact on Paranormal Activity
01:26:31
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County.
01:26:31
Speaker
Um, uh, and staying in the loop, I, uh, Mead County gets ahold of me every year and asked me to do a presentation during Halloween, you know? Uh, so I do that because I'm, I'm getting in favor, in favor there. So if I see something I want to do and it belongs to the government, then you know what?
01:26:49
Speaker
They'll let me in. Hopefully.
01:26:52
Speaker
except for the Battle Witch. they don't know know what being Not being down there in the area or knowing the area where I may have been through Elizabethtown and whatnot a couple few times, but it was more just passing through.
01:27:06
Speaker
Is the area down there pretty haunted? I mean, is there a lot of haunted locations and whatnot down there in your guys' neck of the woods? Yes. Some things you really need to look at, everybody who's watching this, look at the geography and look at what's going on in the world around you. We'll look at what's going on in space.
01:27:27
Speaker
This might seem crazy, but we are on a massive lime deposit, huge, and that will keep energy, um, in it.
01:27:37
Speaker
and So ghosts have more of an opportunity to pull that energy and make contact. Okay. Um, look at weather.
01:27:48
Speaker
If you want to do a, a a paranormal investigation inside now, inside a house or business. If you can do it during a storm, oh man, you are going to be sizzling that night.
01:28:01
Speaker
ah it's It's going to be really, really cranked up. And also, i mentioned this to Blazin', man, space weather, believe it or not. Solar flares from the sun hit us, okay?
01:28:16
Speaker
And for three days after a good size one, for three or four days, man, we are just, we are electric on the planet or where that we're, you know, when that, when that flare popped off, um, that hemisphere of the planet is going to be really charged up.
01:28:34
Speaker
So things to consider, man.
01:28:41
Speaker
I was not able to update the description because we're live at the moment, but I did drop his, uh, email in the comment section guys.
Tips for New Ghost Hunters
01:28:49
Speaker
So, Reach out if you have an investigation. And if it's close and local, you guys guys might just see me as well. You know, I just... My last investigation was in Ratcliffe.
01:29:04
Speaker
um I have a a a tattoo parlor that I frequent quite a lot, man. And that place... ah The first time I went in there for a tattoo, man, I felt something. I'm like, Hey, Whoa, what's, what is going on here?
01:29:18
Speaker
Went back for a second tattoo and I saw the silhouette pass, you know, and do well. I was in a cubicle pass by. So I started asking the tattoo artists and these guys are great artists, man. I'm, I'm, they are amazing artists, but I started asking them, you know, it's like, Hey, talk to me.
01:29:37
Speaker
Uh, something going on here. And, uh, everyone of them said, Oh yes, there's a, hu Oh, no, you said something was going on. You asked if something was going on here. I thought you Yeah. in extreme no You're good. You're good. Oh, no, no, no, no. you partner it's It's a place in Radcliffe. It's um um Scarlet Rose Emporium.
01:29:58
Speaker
um If you guys, man, if I were you and I've done this there and I've like I said, I just did an investigation there, but take a voice recorder with you, man. Sit down with ah one one of the artists, you know,
01:30:11
Speaker
And let that voice recorder run. Have a conversation ah with the artist and chances are somebody's going to chime in and say, hey, I have a different opinion, which will be the ghost, of course.
01:30:22
Speaker
i have I have been thinking about getting some ink lately. um I might have to go check that place. It's not that far. so do Something else I wanted to bring up, if I may, how to conduct an investigation with multiple people.
01:30:39
Speaker
We're getting there, Michael. We're getting there. Are we going to talk about Friday? We will. We will hear it hear it here. Okay. I was going to wait in about another 10 minutes or so.
01:30:52
Speaker
For new people that are trying to do an investigation, man, go by the numbers. Take it slow. Don't rush in. Don't, you know, say, hey, I got a voice recorder. I am a ghost hunter and off you go.
01:31:04
Speaker
ah If you were, okay. If you were to throw together just off the top of your head an elevator pitch, a beginner's kit in spirit hunting or ghost hunting, maybe the top four or five items you might need to get started, what would those be?
01:31:23
Speaker
Even if it's five, it could be just three or two.
01:31:27
Speaker
It's two, man. Take a voice recorder. Okay? Take a camera. Nothing fancy. Don't need any of that shit. Um, what you need to do is to have a plan and know how to do an investigation.
01:31:42
Speaker
You, can the one thing that kills an investigation, man, is a lot of people talking at the same time. It's like here right now, i can't talk over you cause there's a delay.
01:31:53
Speaker
Right? So same with the ghost hunting. One person talks at a time. That's it. And you keep your questions short. And then you wait 20 seconds before another person talks that way.
01:32:08
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This guy don't ask questions. and ah yeah But that way, if there is a ghost responding, he's not going to get drowned out by one of the team members because they're running off in the mouth.
01:32:19
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You know, it's like, uh, like us I've had to tell people yeah basically nicely as I could and say, Hey, know what? Shut the fuck up. Be quiet. Let's do this thing. Do it right.
01:32:31
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Um, That makes sense. as you're If you're out there recording sound, you're not going to want to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. and understand that, that, and this is happened quite a bit when new investigators. Um, it's not about you, man.
01:32:48
Speaker
It's not about you. You go out there. We're not here to hear your woes and mows or whatever you want thinking about. It's about the ghost focus on the ghost only nothing to do with you whatsoever.
01:33:01
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You know, don't say, well, I'm an empath and yada, yada. and No, no, no, no, no. Shut up and ask the simple question, leave it alone, let it go and on to the next. So, um, cooperation, everybody has to understand that kind of thing.
01:33:15
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That's why you're going miss some of the best stuff you can get. Now. So I, Michael brought it up. I think I did touch on this a little bit. Um, Friday night,
01:33:28
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Friday night, ah Michael and I are going to be doing a prerecord for Nonsense and Chill, so we will not be live, but there will be a prerecord. ah Lights, camera, discussion.
01:33:39
Speaker
Why? Because Michael's coming down to see this motherfucker right here. He's going to be behind the camera because I'm going out with Curtis Friday night for a ghost hunt in local cemetery.
01:33:51
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um So with that being said, so excited for this. So that means there's going to be more of this this to come later. We're going to have um but we're gonna have footage of us out there doing this ghost hunting.
01:34:07
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um I'm also going to meet up with Curtis Slater and go over all the stuff that we record and see what see what we find. um With that being said, Curtis, as a beginner, what kind of questions are typically asked when when when confronted for with with a ghost or that you've never met, you don't know anything about, you're trying to to learn, see what's going on.
01:34:33
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Ask to go something they love. Hey, are you married? you got children? How old are you? What did you do for a living? Those kind of things. Be personal.
01:34:44
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be Be calm about it. you know um Worst thing you can do is say, hey, how did you die? Yeah. That's kind of something that you're not trying to throw out there.
01:34:56
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let all that okay ah he no we're not. yet isn' Actually, that's OK. Say age, gender location. That's cool. But, you know, I don't know, man.
01:35:11
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I was in a cemetery, man. ah And dude, I didn't even see it coming. This little girl took my hand. it was, it was so awesome. I felt her hand is so small, man. And, and I kind of started walking and I have zero proof of this shit.
01:35:25
Speaker
Zero. I'm sorry. I don't, uh, she didn't say a word, but I'm walking. I'm hand down. This little girl, just holding it, man.
Living with Ghosts & Investigation Challenges
01:35:32
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Um, so anything can happen. ah So Friday, hopefully not. Like I said, I was told this cemetery is haunted. I don't know. Haven't been there, but we'll find out.
01:35:44
Speaker
So, Surprisingly enough, the liquor store that I worked at, the local liquor store, is apparently haunted too. Bullshit. No.
01:35:54
Speaker
yeah you you So that liquor store used to be a bar back in the fucking 80s and early 90s before it was turned into a liquor store in the late 90s. Apparently there was patrons that has died in there.
01:36:09
Speaker
ah One that I know, there's... There is pictures of passed away ah people that used to go there and one of them, that their ashes were actually in that store up until recently.
01:36:23
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And apparently that place was haunted. Talk to Bradley that works there. He'll tell you the entire thing. He is... What's that? Does Sam know about this?
01:36:35
Speaker
No, Sammy doesn't know nothing about it. I mean, he might have heard the story, but Sammy, I don't think believes in it and in that stuff. So, I mean, to to tell you the truth, since I've worked there and this is the the the second time I've worked in there part time, um even the the prior time it was told and I never saw anything.
01:36:56
Speaker
I heard stories, but I i personally never experienced it. I've been in there a million times, which go to show you what kind of alcoholic I am. Yeah. But never felt a thing. I've been all through that store a million times, dude.
01:37:10
Speaker
So honest yeah I just say bullshit because, you know, I've been through there so much. And normally if something's in there, unless it's a kid, I have a real hard time picking up on children.
01:37:23
Speaker
But anybody else, man, I would know right away. That place used to be a bar and now a liquor store. I don't think really kids have ever really gone in there. I mean, I could be wrong.
01:37:33
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God, I hope. I hope no kids have been in there. But yeah, there's the town that the town or the area Curtis and I live in there is I hear ghost stories all the time.
01:37:49
Speaker
I brought this up. I brought this up to my parents. I was like, hey, I'm doing an interview with a ghost hunter. Mom's like, oh, there's a ghost in my house. I'm like, really, Mom?
01:38:00
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She's like, yeah. I'm like, okay. Yeah, but man, people are so afraid of this stuff and don't understand why. I mean, we're all going to be there. Like it or not, we are going to be there. But and nobody ever gives that any thought because it's a scary thing, I guess, for a lot of people that, yeah, you will be there one day.
01:38:18
Speaker
But yeah, man, I had a people contact me and they just bought a house and apparently didn't get the history of the house prior to buying it and they paid for it, you know. Before that, it was rented out and Renters could not stay longer than three months in the place. It was so haunted.
01:38:35
Speaker
So they reached out to me. I've heard of places like that. And I've always, I've always wanted somebody to reach out to me like, Hey man, this place is really haunted. I'll give you a blah, blah, blah. If you can stay there for whenever time I'm open to a challenge like that.
01:38:53
Speaker
I am too. And get this, these people contacted me, but then later on decided, well, We really don't want that kind of help around here. You know, my cat's going nuts. Sorry.
01:39:07
Speaker
You're fine. Pets are always welcome and allowed. This guy, man.
01:39:17
Speaker
Do the people in this house just coexist, you know, with whatever is there? I don't know. glick They asked me to come and, you know, set things up. And I said, okay, sure. No problem. No money, you know, free charge.
01:39:30
Speaker
And then it's last I heard them. And I won't badger somebody, man. If they don't contact me back, I'll um maybe ask one more time, hey, do you still need me? If nothing, then okay, well, that's off the slate for the, you know. Yeah.
01:39:42
Speaker
Move on. Move on down the road. Absolutely, man. So this this cemetery that you guys are going to Friday, are there any local legends behind it? Any stories behind it? Or is it just, eh, it's a cemetery and somebody said it was haunted.
01:39:57
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know yet. I haven't done my research. Or legend or local lore or legend or anything? I was just told that it is very haunted. Not just haunted, but very haunted.
01:40:09
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um I drove through it during the day. I didn't get out of my truck. I just kind of drove through this big cemetery. Huge. for Especially Park County. um I just drove through and didn't sense anything. But, you know, when the lights go out and you're standing there on the ground, we'll see what happens, man.
01:40:27
Speaker
but kur blazing a believer cururt Curtis, i'd like i'd i'd like to take I'd like to drive around the area with you. Like I said, Glick knows. A lot of people in this network knows.
01:40:40
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I drive the back roads around here um um my just just cruising. i like the cruise listening some tune to tunes. and I pass a lot of cemeteries because on this rural area, there are cemeteries in people's backyards.
01:40:55
Speaker
You'll be going down a fucking country road and you'll see a house, a church smaller than a house and a graveyard with like five tombstones. And like, it's been there for fucking centuries.
01:41:07
Speaker
Yeah, we have that up here in Ohio too. There's a lot of them that are, I mean, sometimes it's just a house and then a graveyard. And there's something else around our cemetery. i would like I would like to drive around Curtis sort of spirit dowsing rod.
01:41:22
Speaker
spirit dousing rod per se. If, if, if your senses go off, is it dowsing rod, dowing rod? I don't know. dousing rod Yeah. and Dowsing dousing rod. Yeah. Yeah.
01:41:34
Speaker
I use, I use that and metaphorically, but I think that would be pretty cool. I've done it, man. All through this County. um Just like you're saying, stop at a cemetery, just get out, get a feel, see what's going on.
Intelligent Ghost Interactions
01:41:49
Speaker
um But you know, something too, if If there's a lot of traffic, ah you know, businesses doing um business, people doing their thing, it'd be hard really hard to pick up on something, truly. and Because the ghosts are like, I'm not getting out there right now. I want to i want to read Trenchola's comment right now.
01:42:11
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Do your research after. if you do it before, it could put ideas in your head, in your mind. could start hearing and seeing things. Okay. okay I can speak.
01:42:23
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I see what you mean by that. i agree with him 100%, man. That makes sense. It it eliminates any any ah preconceived biases. But at the same time, it's like, and that's why I brought that question up earlier about cold reading a place.
01:42:40
Speaker
Is it worth investigating? But i guess you would I guess that would all be about the census. Yeah.
01:42:50
Speaker
I don't know, man. Um, I try not to do it either. i prefer to just go read, get in. Um, and you would be surprised at how the smallest thing can turn into fucking Mount Rushmore blowing up again.
01:43:06
Speaker
It's crazy. had a you know woman contact me and she said something I think whispered into my ear. i said, well, you know what? I'll come check it out. No problem. Man, it ended up, I did ah two investigations there.
01:43:20
Speaker
Then it ended up that she she was a woman you know
Tools & Legal Aspects of Ghost Hunting
01:43:24
Speaker
living herself. She had five dogs. um Her bed lifted off the ground with all five dogs on it and went across the room.
01:43:33
Speaker
So that was a lot. um I wasn't there to see this, but the the amount of evidence I got from that place was phenomenal.
01:43:44
Speaker
It's small house, you know, not a big deal. Um, it was phenomenal, man. Um, I actually asked the ghost cause this woman has so many dogs and during the investigation, I sat down for a bit and I had one of the dogs on my lap and I asked the woman cause I knew she was in the kitchen. I knew she was, um, I said, Hey, can you call the dog that's in my lap into the kitchen?
01:44:10
Speaker
Sure as shit, that dog got up and went straight into the kitchen. Now, that is what you call a great intelligent response. You know, you can't deny it, man.
01:44:24
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Okay.
01:44:28
Speaker
See, those are those are whole friday night well get the same thing. I hope so. I absolutely hope so. um So I'm shooting with just like a cannon rubble.
01:44:39
Speaker
seven Is there any sort of like special lighting I need to film with at night in a graveyard?
01:44:50
Speaker
like so i mean, other than, know, light. mean, this light changes colors. I can ah can do green if I want. Yeah, I use ah um like to use these and it's these motion sensors. And i'll put you'll you'll see it. I'll spread these around us.
01:45:07
Speaker
So if something walks toward us, one of will go off. Okay. um That kind of thing. Also, I'll use, I'll go from, from on my camera, I'll go to night vision, you know, into regular vision, that kind of thing.
01:45:24
Speaker
um Flip back and forth. So it's, it's whatever you have the skill to do. And believe me, I don't have a lot of skill with that stuff. So I mainly go on what I'm feeling to take me where it, you know, where I need to go.
01:45:39
Speaker
fair See, all right, so because I don't rely on census and I'm relying on yours, so i you're you're gonna leave you're going to lead. ah One question, um and this was a question that somebody brought up to me earlier today when I was talking.
01:45:54
Speaker
Permission. Going to places. I know some places are private. Some places call you, and permission is applied, but a graveyard.
01:46:06
Speaker
It's not private. it's not it's not is It's not public property, is it? Do we need permissions? Is it legal? Yeah, it's a good question.
01:46:16
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Here's what we'll do. um Back in the day, it was illegal in Kentucky and and in or Indiana to be in a graveyard at night. It was illegal. um
01:46:29
Speaker
But they have eased that restriction. Now, you can be in a public graveyard at night. And I will, before we go, let the sheriff's department know that it's me. I'm going to be in this graveyard tonight. So in case a patrol car comes by and sees us, they don't come, you know, running up at it Yeah. um So, yeah, it's it's totally legal, bro. We'll be fine.
01:46:50
Speaker
We'll be fine. They know me and they know I do crazy shit like this. Oh, no. And that's, you know, that's that's always it's always a concern for people who's never done this before. i Am I going to show them and get arrested somewhere?
01:47:03
Speaker
ah But Trench has a good point. um Show respect to those who have family in them graves and shouldn't be having a problem. ah Yeah, I guess for the sake of the spirits, but I was talking about just like the legalese of it.
01:47:19
Speaker
So I don't like showing up to a place with a video camera unless I know it's public and I'm allowed to be Because there's rules. Well, a lot of a lot of the you know the graveyards, because there is a difference between a graveyard and a cemetery.
01:47:33
Speaker
Graveyards are usually affiliated with but the church, um and ah or historic, and cemeteries are usually your bigger public areas. But most of them have the same. Yes.
01:47:45
Speaker
I just learned that today because I thought they were all the fucking same. No, no, no, no, no. So, so a lot of cemeteries and even, and even graveyards, they have a lot of the same rules like public parks and stuff like that.
01:47:56
Speaker
It's after dark, they're closed, but cemeteries are a little bit more lenient than graveyards because graveyards are technically on private property being owned by the church.
01:48:07
Speaker
I think this one is specifically a cemetery. Yeah. You know, So they're usually a little bit more lenient at night, as long as you're not destroying shit.
01:48:20
Speaker
And don't go in with a shovel. yeah No matter what you do. I'm serious, man. that's That will get you in some hot water. But I don't know who brought that subject up just now. Very respectful.
01:48:32
Speaker
um There are people who go into a graveyard. um i don't I don't want to get myself in too much here. Yeah. I always ask permission of the graveyard to come in. Always, always, always, man. I let them know, hey, I'm here. I'm not meaning any harm.
01:48:49
Speaker
And I ask permission to go in and go. And like I said, it depends on who. Exactly. Exactly, man. um And there are people who, and this is a bizarre shit to me, but People who are practicing witchcraft and go in to get dirt because it's from a grave because it's, ah you know, supposedly can do. I don't know what they do with it.
01:49:14
Speaker
um Yeah, never, never take out what you didn't bring in. Never leave trash. It's like the Boy Scout rule. Remember that? I don't know if you guys run Boy Scouts, man, but it's like, hey, i mean I'm going to have a hiker. I'm to have a hiker.
01:49:28
Speaker
If I see trash, I typically pick it up. Absolutely. man Yeah. That's, that's, that's my, and it's okay, man. It's okay to go to a grave, look at and find interest in it and start talking, you know, uh, be respectful, but you know, you, you will be amazed, uh, at the amount of graves you see that for, or from civil war, war two, war one, you know, you can talk to these people.
01:49:54
Speaker
I'm not saying they're there. Chances are they're probably not because nobody's to hang around. Not many people, I guess we'll hang around a grave, but, um, Yeah, man. you can You can pull a conversation.
01:50:05
Speaker
Absolutely. Tarantula, it's sacred ground, brother. Oh, my. Leave only footprints and take only memories. I fucking love that, dude. That's like a bumper sticker right there. i am Oh, wow. I just looked at the time.
01:50:19
Speaker
ah Curtis, um besides the email that I shared in the chat, where else can people find you? um Your EVPs and whatnot. That's it.
01:50:31
Speaker
That's it, brother. um i've i've I've slowed down on what I do. I used to do it. It got so bad. I was doing it you know like twice a week. and I pulled back. You notice I haven't posted on YouTube in 12 years or something like this. I slowed that down.
01:50:47
Speaker
um i didn't it's It's a lot, man. It's a lot. and It's physically draining. um I've actually walked out of an investigation and and Didn't know if I was going to make it home because I had no energy left in my body because they pull it from me all the time.
01:51:03
Speaker
Another thing, too, Blazin, if y'all come do this, make sure you have extra batteries, man. gotta have a i always always Got batteries. always got one in the camera, two charged.
01:51:16
Speaker
Absolutely. Because they will, if you find a very... um um I to say powerful. If you find a ghost, if we find a ghost, that really can suck energy, it'll drain all your batteries quick.
01:51:32
Speaker
I mean, like within seconds. how long How long do you think we'll be out there in the graveyard? Depends on weather and depends on if if if we're not getting anything.
01:51:45
Speaker
supposed to be cloudy that day. Yeah, cloudy is good. But if we're not getting anything, man, why hang around, right? um If anything's around, I'll let i'll let you know. that Yeah, somebody's here. We can start, you know, we'll go in that way.
01:51:59
Speaker
So I can't give you a time. Fair enough. Do you have when you go in for ah when you go in for investigations or anything, do you have a minimal time that you'll spend?
Upcoming Investigations & Show Previews
01:52:12
Speaker
No, sir. Someplace. No. you all
01:52:17
Speaker
I'll tell you what, glick when everything slows down, I'll walk away. I've been on some investigations for six hours. I've been on some for hour and a half, man. Just depends on what's going on.
01:52:30
Speaker
If you know what this, uh, and I'll share these, I'll share this with you blazing. When you, when, when we link up, man, I've got the, investigation of the courthouse in Elizabeth town.
01:52:44
Speaker
It was so intense and so many people there, you know, there one goes to saying, Hey, let's kill Curtis. Uh, another one is just batshit crazy. It's just all kinds of craziness up in there.
01:52:55
Speaker
So, uh, I'll share that with you though, when we link up. Uh, so that kind of environment, yeah, I'm to stay as long as I can, you know, before, before we get out of here tonight, guys, I just want to go ahead and i just want to, you know, Hey, this is, this is Wednesday night. So this is wildcard Wednesday.
01:53:13
Speaker
This is what you're getting tonight. Wally, Wally stopped by. I don't know if Wally's doing a show tomorrow night. Glick, you know if Wally's doing a show tomorrow night? I think so, as far as I know of, but I'm not 100% sure. ah Real quick, what cemetery is it you guys are going to i want to? I want to do a little research on it personally. for my okay cat Cap Anderson.
01:53:34
Speaker
C-A-P-A-N-D-E-R-S-E-N. I drove by it. That's what I saw on top. Cap Anderson Cemetery, Bradenburg, Kentucky.
01:53:45
Speaker
yes the wine number yes That's the one. All I had to put was cap A, and it was the first thing that popped up. no it You know what? That's because the algorithm's listening to dude.
01:53:57
Speaker
There's a ghost in the machine. ah but but With that being said, Friday, again, Michael and I will not be live, but we will have a pre-recorded show for you guys for Nonsense and Chill, Lights, Camera, Discussion,
01:54:12
Speaker
um Drop comments if you want. Watch it in the background. It's all gravy, baby, because Michael and I are going to be out there in the cemetery with this cool motherfucker right here, Curtis. I'm going to be in a close hunt.
01:54:24
Speaker
I'm greatly looking forward. I'm gravely looking forward to it. michael's go to be be Michael's going to be behind the camera this time. That's a weird turn of events. Just saying.
01:54:36
Speaker
um Woo, woo, motherfuckers. Catch us here Saturday night for fucking nonsense. Nonsensical nonsense. My gosh, words are hard.
01:54:48
Speaker
think I finished that bottle of wine tonight, guys. Sunday, Sunday. um ah you and Cash doing anything this ah this weekend for but wrestling? Yeah, we got Saturday or Sunday. Probably Saturday because there's a couple things going on for wrestling this weekend. So well we should be back Saturday afternoon for Cash's Corner.
01:55:09
Speaker
Okay. And then, course, ah Monday, ah you'll see Wally if he has the show. I know Wally's schedule is crazy right now. But Tuesday, Glick, what's going on Glick's House of Music on Tuesday?
01:55:24
Speaker
Tuesday, Glick's House of Mewzake. I have
01:55:33
Speaker
Walker Tex hanging out with me. And you'd think a guy named Walker Tex would be, like, from Texas or something. uh-uh, all the way from Ireland. He's going to be hanging out.
01:55:45
Speaker
And I was like, it's 8 o'clock here. he's like, why I said, show's at 8. He's like, oh, that's like five hours behind me. I said, where the fuck are you at, bro? And I said, do you want to do it early or are you okay? He's like, nah, I'm good, man. I'm a rock star. I can do that. It'll 1 a.m. of here. I was like, let's go, man. So I'm excited. Hell yes.
01:56:03
Speaker
I love that I get another another guest from ah um a different part of the world. I'm just, I'm, looks awesome music is worldwide, baby. I'm bringing them all. And he does like the country, he does country rock. So I'm excited to hang out with him and get to know him a little bit.
01:56:18
Speaker
If nobody's ever heard of Irish country music from way back in the day, listen to it is the most soothing fucking music. I used to fall asleep listening to Irish country music, getting haircuts when I was in the Air Force Baseball.
01:56:29
Speaker
It was a flight line barber that would play and I'd fall asleep in an air. Anyway, I digress. Um, then that brings us back to Wednesday. We'll be back next Wednesday with a part two of a pair analysis, because again, going have to show you the footage of our freaking ghost hunt.
01:56:49
Speaker
So that's going to be a thing. Curtis, you're definitely welcome back for that. Glick, if you're up for it, Michael, definitely, because Michael's going to be behind the camera. He's going be able to, uh, Blaze, just keep your mind open. Allow your body and mind to feel. If something is around you, you'll feel it.
01:57:05
Speaker
Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay, one more thing and I'm out, man. Go for it, Curtis. Movie trivia. That's happening Friday night as well. So, read up, brother.
01:57:19
Speaker
Movie trivia is the last Friday of every month. and Where did you just hear that? no yeah never We were talking about earlier that you know all the movie trivia, all the lines and everything. you know Oh, no, don't. I host trivia. Glick's the ego movie. I host it.
01:57:36
Speaker
okay That was a challenge I was pulling to you. but okay yeah I
Trivia Night & Closing
01:57:42
Speaker
host the challenge. i challenge The challenge goes to Glick and Michael and Brian and Tony and everybody else that pops um'm just Absolutely.
01:57:51
Speaker
I mean, as Kid Rock once said, it ain't cocky if you back that shit up. And, well, Michael's my whipping post, so I can embarrass him on a regular basis. Same with everybody that comes in for trivia.
01:58:02
Speaker
I just embarrass them all my little bitches.
01:58:08
Speaker
All right. With that being said, I want to say thank you to everybody. What's that, Glick? I said, Kurt's welcome to join us for trivia night. I need a new victim. I'll be there. You can be...
01:58:20
Speaker
You can be sacrificed to the god of s trivia, this guy. ah Curtis, I don't know if you know about Saturday nights, but it's open door challenge. Anybody can come up. I don't want to go go too far because I'm trying to keep this at the two-hour mark for editing reasons. So with that said, thank you for coming by on another fucking awesome wildcard Wednesday.
01:58:40
Speaker
Glick, thank you for co-hosting. Curtis, thanks popping up. Thank for having here. producer Mike, because I'm go call you that when you're producing. Thank you for for your your work behind scenes in the audience.
01:58:52
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01:59:07
Speaker
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