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Chronic Contemplations - First time on the Nonsensical Network
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Join Michael and Josh, two GenX stoners just talking about the world the way we see it. A new (ish) AM show to the Nonsensical Network. #chroniccontemplations #comedy #conversation #nonsensicalnetwork
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Transcript
Introduction and Morning Banter
00:00:20
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Hey, Michael. Yo. Good morning, buddy. Good morning, Chief. How are you? Good morning. I'm good. Okay, let me turn this background music off.
00:00:31
Speaker
Let me remove this so people can see our freaking morning ugly faces. That's my every face. Yes. Yes. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, buddy. Good morning. chronic oh I had a Nutri-Grain bar.
00:00:47
Speaker
He cooked breakfast. We, we. who ah It was a tag team effort. Oh, nice. I made the eggs. Nice. Oh, she had the hard work.
00:00:58
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Eggs are easy. taers and eggs Well, she did that while i jumped in the fast shower, so I'd be somewhat presentable today. i did my ah I did my normal roll out of bed, take the dog out, feed the dog, make me some tea. I'm on my so second cup of tea, and I'm here.
00:01:17
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ah wake up i wake up pretty, I guess. Oh, today's show is brought to you by the PSA. Keep bears off meth.
00:01:29
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. Yes, please keep bears off meth. that's what we We've had cocaine bears. We don't need meth and phytomy bears. Absolutely right. Thank you.
00:01:41
Speaker
Wally, if you still got your ears on my man, fucking good morning to you. God, this is nonsensical nonsense freaking nonsense. Nonsensical Network's freaking AM show, Chronic Contemplations, Michael and and this guy.
00:01:56
Speaker
Josh, some call me Blaze. Brittany's in the house. I think she's laid up from work, so she's here to catch us in the morning. Oh, yeah.
00:02:08
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She's a real person. Yeah. um Well, I guess before we get rolling, I just want to plug... um course, you catch michael Michael and I again tomorrow night on Nonsense and Chill. Tonight's going to be Wally. He's doing ah most Animal Talk.
00:02:27
Speaker
No, Motorsports was on Monday. Well, shit. I don't know shit about fuck. I know he has a guest coming up, I think, next Monday. Nice.
00:02:38
Speaker
Morning, everybody. so We're still aren't still waking up.
00:02:45
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Yeah, definitely waking up That's the thing about the morning show. It's going to be about 10 minutes of wake up time. She said I'm late. What's that mean? Is she pregnant? I don't know.
00:02:56
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Fuck, I have no idea. What she's talking about being late? No i idea. I know she mentioned about it. Yeah. Apparently she had a ah cabinet fall on her.
00:03:07
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Yep. That sucks. Yeah. But collect your monies.
00:03:15
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not, I don't understand what's happening. Oh, no preggers. No bun in the oven for Britt.
100 Club Challenge and Drinking Stories
00:03:25
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Well, so last night, oh yeah, I guess I gotta plug Saturday real quick. You wanna plug Saturday? say Oh, shit shit. I hope Glick still remembers.
00:03:39
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he's but he's gonna He's gonna get a reminder. I'm holding y'all's feet to the fire on this one, but go ahead. Me too, me too. I'm excited about it. Saturday night, live on air.
00:03:51
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For the Saturday plug, the Nonsensical Network's going to do our first ever 100 Club Challenge. The 100 Club is doing 100 shots of beer in 100 minutes.
00:04:06
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One ounce of beer every minute for 100 minutes. So tune in for that. It should be a hoot and holler.
00:04:16
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I'm going to be there sober, encouraging them to be stupid. Not stupid. Sober adjacent. Sober adjacent. Well, yeah, I'm definitely to be, but I'm not drinking.
00:04:27
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So, yeah. Was that was that a was that an original idea from Brittany? Did she bring that up at one time? I don't remember. That I don't know. I just don't like to have this book. It's called 101 Drinking Games, and that was one of them.
00:04:42
Speaker
And guys never heard of it, so I said, well, fuck it. Glick was like, let's do it. I was like, okay. My soon to be wife said, I'm allowed to go out of town for the one night and have some good times you guys. And she immediately said, why am I even bothering getting married to you? but Because I think she feels I'm going to die tomorrow, Saturday night.
00:05:03
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I, am so my concern's not as extreme as Sue's, but I am concerned for y'all's health. However, You guys are free citizens and I'll laugh
Chronic Contemplations: Aliens and Panspermia
00:05:13
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at it.
00:05:13
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Ah, she did bring it up, she says. I did not know, Britt. But it's a real thing. was before you, it was before me. Somebody else wrote it a book. And I read it when I was younger.
00:05:30
Speaker
I just thought it was hilarious. Glick's Brandy thought it was 100 beers in 100 minutes. Yes, yes. There was some miscommunication. Don't die. that's stupid See, I mean, i think Glick has a better chance of finishing it than, in a well, than Michael. Because Michael is not an avid beer drinker like that.
00:05:54
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No, I'm not. like yeah But I am a fucking warrior, sir. Yeah, I've seen this guy buy a six-pack only not to drink it.
00:06:06
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And you what sucks is he left in my fridge and I didn't want it to go to waste. And I should have gave it away. But I attempted to drink it. And it was probably one of the worst beers I've ever had.
00:06:16
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And you'd be surprised. This is the first time I actually remember ever drinking Bush Light in my entire life. And it's the most shittiest tasting beer I've ever had.
00:06:28
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The fact that people drink Bush Light and enjoy it, they got it fucking nuts, man. Something's with their head. Glick is experienced in the beer drinking. give 100%.
00:06:40
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i've I've got more experience in most things than most people.
00:06:44
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If it's bad for you, I've done it, and I've done it a lot. 100 lines in 100 minutes. What? no No. That's a bit extreme.
00:06:57
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But challenge accepted. o Oh, my. Oh, me. Oh, my. So ah that's our plug for Saturday for the, for the network folks who don't understand what chronic chronic contemplations is. You want to fill them in?
00:07:14
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I'm still trying to figure it out. So Michael and I started in in in a couple of veins because him and I wanted to collaborate ah with each other on, on the talk thing.
00:07:26
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Him and I are getting to still know each other as friends, and this is a good avenue for us to do this. And it's just, it's conversations in, people would typically have when you're sitting around fucking stoned, so it's no, like today we're going to talk about aliens.
00:07:42
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going about aliens. Michael brought it up last night, he talked about panspermia, and i was like, ooh, you know aliens are fun. I watched an alien sci-fi movie last night, so i'm like, yes, I really want to talk about aliens.
00:07:55
Speaker
I love that shit. it's every day i love that shit However, you guys remind me, I do want to talk about that movie specifically tomorrow night for a couple minutes. I want to rage about it. Rage about it.
00:08:06
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rage about I'm going rage the fuck about it. um but But we're here to talk about that. We're talking aliens today. So, Michael, what is... Hi, she's an alpaca.
00:08:23
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Alpaca bowl.
00:08:27
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Anyway, stoner me. um right um so uh spam spam spam is not what we're talking about although spam is good and not good pan spermia michael what is pam spermia pan spermia is the idea that earth was seeded with life by comets and or asteroids coming through the atmosphere shedding off uh life-giving compounds and such elements from the
00:09:02
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from the far reaches of the universe, not necessarily from our neighborhood. They come in from far, far, far away, drop stuff that they've collected through their travels, through their journey.
00:09:14
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I said that really loud to Susan or Nook working and she hates the word journey. She doesn't like Journey. Has she ever gone to the mall and shopped at the at at the store Journey while listening to Journey while on a Journey for shoes?
00:09:27
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and I like Journey. I like Journey because they got some dope ass shoes. I miss you guys. like We avoid you that the plague. You avoid yeah we oh man the dens of capitalism just are not our haunts.
00:09:43
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Oh, dude. Sometimes I'll stroll through the mall just because again, I'm a shoe guy mall shoes, shoe stores about the only thing that's like viable in a, uh, in a mall nowadays. But, uh, see journeys is cool. Like I think journeys is more of like a stoner cultural thing
Fermi Paradox and Civilization Types
00:10:00
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to tell you the truth.
00:10:01
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I think that's one of the years. I, Or sub-genre. I think it's a sub-genre. A subculture. Or like a subculture. Britt says good morning to Stu. always looked at the stoner culture as a like like a subculture.
00:10:21
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Rise and shine, my people. Let's make today awesome. You don't tell me what do. Screw you, mister. you don't tell me what screw you mr I'll have an awesome day if I want to.
00:10:33
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You're not the boss of me. So Hot Top, you know, I know we're going off the fucking deep end today. It doesn't take long. i know, this is first time we've done this live. But fucking Hot Topics and Spencer's.
00:10:46
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There was a day in my life where i those stores were like an asset to my my my fashion sense. Yeah, Spencer's was my jam back in the day.
00:10:58
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Well, i went I mostly went Hot Topics because they sold... was one of the few stores I could buy the the music that I listened to that wasn't like censored at Walmart. And then Spencer's was usually where I'd go fucking pick up tees and hats and shit.
00:11:15
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it Some clothes at Hot Topics, but it was weird. i didn't get my oh I didn't get into piercings and stuff until after I out the Air Force. So I never really went to Hot Topics for any of the the accessories.
00:11:30
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One of my favorite South Park episodes was sirra like focused on the hot topic because it was where the vampire kids were getting all their stuff. ah The goth kids and the emo kids?
00:11:43
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Yep, yep, yep. Anyway, yeah let's ah let's rope this back in. You know who else you know ah besides um the the counterculture of are eight of ah alienating subcultures?
00:11:57
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Let's talk about Alien, alien. So you, panspermia. Yeah, like said, it's the the idea that, it's a hypothesis that the life-giving elements that that created what we have here on Earth, that they they come flying in on a asteroid and or a comet, like said, it just kind of seeds the planet of what we need, those elements that create life.
00:12:25
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proteins and amino acids. i am but I think panspermia has a lot of cred. I think that's very possible. Especially like in Earth's early infantile freaking stage where it was getting just blanketed by fucking asteroids meteorites and blah blah blah. And they've even found you've even found through discovery in modern times that these asteroids and shit have the building blocks to life are you know kind of floating out there in space so it's not far-fetched for them to hit a planet like earth some bubbling ooze and just this cauldron of life just pops up which i'll use i'll use the expression abiogenesis abiogenesis from time to time that's really what that means just the beginning of life prior it's like the antecedent of evolution rumor has it glick has been probed by the little green men
00:13:23
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ah
00:13:27
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Glick's not here to defend himself, so by all means, talk trash. I expect he'll be hitting up the chatterbox eventually. He's going to be a... He's going to be stepping in on his break, I'm sure.
00:13:43
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have you Have you heard of the Fermi Parod? Okay, before we get too detached by life's creation, because that's not so much alien, except alien bacteria and microbes or whatever coming to Earth and shit.
00:13:59
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Are you familiar with the definition of alien is? It depends on what your definition of life is.
00:14:06
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So when I talk about life, I'm talking about simple life. I mean, you're talking about alien life, I don't i don't necessarily think of sentient green men or gray men or or c sentient beings i mean it's it's like the smallest minuscule unsentient piece of bacteria floating around his life that is life yeah that is life so when i'm talking about life out there i'm talking about that as well now if we're talking about like sentient life um i like to refer to the fermi paradox and just in simple forms it's basically statistically speaking
00:14:46
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Because the universe is or the cosmos is like 13 something billion years. And that's a lot of fucking time. The odds of there being other alien life forms in that in that in our cosmos is relatively up there.
00:15:03
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However, them coexisting the same time we do or us ever crossing crossing paths with another alien life form. That's where The statistics is very, very minuscule.
00:15:18
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So.
00:15:22
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It's a statistical anomaly. Yes. How many stars are out there? How many stars have planets around them? How many planets have a potential for life? Why are we not seeing this yet?
00:15:33
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Every once in a while, I see one those clickbait articles. Oh, you'll never believe what they found. Life finally proved. And it never is. it never why life is Life has been proven, but again, like in the microscopic level.
00:15:47
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Right. But they're talking about like that, you know, complex life form, a sentient type thing. And that's so and that's that's where the Fermi paradox comes in saying, yeah, sure.
00:15:58
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Like, Out of all those planets out there, they either A, could have already had life and we missed it, or they'll have life after we're already gone.
00:16:10
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And we'll never cross paths, ever. which is Which is totally opposite from our ah science fiction dreams of like federations and mass...
00:16:25
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groups of like different planetary treaties and stuff i don't ever see that happening me either because everybody's got so much self-interest so much self-interest there's a question for you uh so josh do you think there are things out there that with brains and shit i let me reread that for you in her voice so josh you don't think there are things out there like with brands and shit um
00:16:56
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I wouldn't say she sounds like a Kelly. No, I wanted to have a little fun since she's watching. her She's done in here for me to harass all her ass or the chatters. Fair enough.
00:17:09
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o I don't believe i believe.
00:17:15
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i like to I like to reserve belief until I can till it's like evidentially proven. i'll have However, however, I'm confident. i'll say I'll use a confidence level.
00:17:27
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I have a high confidence level that there has been or will be or currently other intelligent life out there we just don't know, we won't ever meet or we'll never see.
00:17:40
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Ever. Yeah. Well, the thing is like ah type 1, type 2, type 3, type 4 civilizations, you're familiar with that shit? I've i sort of, yeah. like From like the start Star Trek perspective,
00:17:53
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um No, it's it's like an actual thing. they call it ah i'd like For instance, a type 1. we We currently, as human beings, are a type 0. Type 0 civilization. We're on the cusp of becoming a type 1.
00:18:07
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okay so you yeah Type 1 civilizations can harvest all the energy that their planet has to offer and use it at its maximum capacity. Oh, we're totally going away from that. Well, there's a big fight to go away I think we're taking steps more to go to negative one. Once somebody finds that red button, we're all going to negative one, buddy.
00:18:32
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It's true. We'll never make it to type one because we're going to die at type zero. we We are so dead set on killing ourselves. It's insane. The only animals on this planet that just cannot stop fucking actually...
00:18:49
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Slow down, Michael, slow
Technology, Economics, and Societal Critiques
00:18:50
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down. We actively attempt to unalive our entire speech species on the regular. You know, it's funny you bring that up.
00:19:02
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I keep hearing in the current state of things when it comes to the survival of the fittest, I hear that a lot when it comes to it could be future humans trying to save the planet from current human See, that's time travel.
00:19:18
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Or is it just... Or is it dimensional shifting? ah we There's all sorts of weirdness, man, when when it comes to things like that. like I know what he's talking about. They're talking about people from the future are of doing like a...
00:19:33
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historical tourism type thing. They pop back and they look at, you know famous moments in their past or whatever, and then they leave. Have you ever seen the the photos of people out of time?
00:19:44
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The out of time photos? Yeah. Yeah, I've seen such lot. The one lady has like this, what looks just like an iPhone, but it's like 1940 something. Mm-hmm.
00:19:55
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Yeah, but I don't think those... I think those photos have either been doctored or they're just... I'm not saying it's proof. I just find them strange and interesting. Like, there's one that you see in a video. I believe it's a Mike Tyson fight. I'm almost positive it's Mike Tyson fight.
00:20:09
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The guy's sort of in the front row, and he's holding what looks like a modern-day cell phone in his hand to videotape the fight. Hmm. This is when his video equipment is over-the-shoulder shit. That was your at-home shit.
00:20:23
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Yeah. Okay. I like, have you seen the movie with, I think it's Bradley Cooper.
00:20:32
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Like, have you seen one movie with, I think it's, wow, that helps a lot. is it Is it a time travel movie, a space movie? I'm not sure what Bradley was. don't know. Sci-fi wise.
00:20:44
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I know, Bradley Cooper, you're talking about, ra it wasn't he Raccoon? and He was Rocket Raccoon, he was the voice of the raccoon. There we go, that's ah that's a sci-fi one.
00:20:55
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yeah so i and want to get back to that I want to get back to the alien thing real quick and in in in the intelligence and all that. i am i don't making
00:21:08
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it to interstellar travel. I don't see our species lasting for maybe another thousand years. i don't know i don't i don't i don't see our species lasting for like maybe another maybe another thousand I don't think we got that much in this.
00:21:26
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Because think about that, right? when you When you extrapolate the insane advances in science in the last 100 years versus the previous 1,000 years, okay?
00:21:39
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Now take that last 100 years, extrapolate that out to 1,000 years. Like a computer, I remember when i got our when we got our very first home computer. I was in seventh grade, I think, maybe eighth grade.
00:21:52
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And it was a piece of shit compared to what we have now. Yeah. By the time I had high school, they were coming out with computers roughly every two to three years that would completely just annihilate and make useless all previous computers.
00:22:06
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Now that's every six months or less. Dude, it's like yeah every every year there's a new phone that comes out. It's like new or better technology. It's really not. There's maybe some minor upgrades, but.
00:22:19
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But with the phones, it's a little different. like ah The next phone doesn't obsolete the last phone. These new computers are pretty much obsoleting previous computers. I need to keep putting new guts in them to keep up with the Joneses type thing for the computing power, for the memory, all that shit.
00:22:36
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And I'm not a big tech guy, so you you understand my technical stuff. I'm going to stun you. The rate of... The rate of... um the rate the rate of human technology advance advancement has sped up.
00:22:52
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like After the Industrial Revolution, we went into this to to, you know, we started going into this technical revolution and yeah, it's it's been Like you said, it's extrapolated. It's boom, it's blown up.
00:23:07
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like So when you think about all those advances in the last 100 years, so what are we going to do with the next 1,000 years? We're going weaponize as much shit as possible because that's how we do. Humans going to human. And then something's going to come out that's going to get out of of our control and it's going to kill everybody.
00:23:23
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Like the the things that they make in these goddamn labs with ah bioviruses and shit like that, holy balls. I think there's some paranoia there I think I'm not saying I'm not saying bad shit can happen.
00:23:36
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um I think there's bad actors out there that can get a hold of any sort of technology. And <unk>s it's a tool. I mean, all this technology is a tool. You can take a hammer and turn it into a murder weapon.
00:23:48
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So I just I think i I think we need to worry less about our tools and more about our tool users. and how And how we're <unk>re raising our children, to tell you the truth. Well, that's the thing. It's like these amazing advances, like ah genetic markers and things that they're finding to fix this or fix that.
00:24:06
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Well, there's also other genetic markers that can screw up this and screw up that. So it's an unintended consequence. You think, oh, this will be great for the advancement of health and health care for humanity.
00:24:18
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But somebody's going to find a way to pervert that. You're talking about gene manipulation? That and not just gene therapies like RNA stuff. like ah There was another thing I was reading about cancer last night. I was up kind of late last night. That's why i woke up late.
00:24:31
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um You inspired me to look up some more science. There's another new cancer treatment with RNA therapies and stuff. Yeah, you did it, you jerk. I've always liked science, though.
00:24:43
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I'm a science person. I just haven't been doing much research. I've been hunting through the internet trying to make money instead. I definitely sp it remember when we had to unplug the house phone and use the internet. 28k fucking dial-up modem.
00:24:58
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yeah sort of sure la ah know So greed will always come in. Again, I think you're not wrong. But again, i think it's again not so much the tools. It's the way our how we function as a society.
00:25:15
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Our collectiveness. Our collective consciousness. We don't have one. It's it's it's fractured. It's fragmented. it's in And i think I think because we're greedy is a symptom of that fracture, of the fracturing of our collectiveness.
00:25:33
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The thing about greed is just it's an evolutionary non-imperative. Oh, there he is. man you missed the shit talking there, buddy. Yeah, I wasn't going say anything.
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah, she's talking about the faxes, dude. I remember when you'd pick up the phone and it was a fax coming in and it was just murder your eardrum. Dude, they used fax. I worked part-time at Napa for a little bit, man, when I moved here and they still used a fax machine. And they're like, do you know how to use a fax machine? I was like,
00:26:11
Speaker
hold on let me pull out my 20 years ago fucking memory yeah i think i can work this but still i'm like what we don't email and this was like to the like because part stores will have contracts like to fill part orders for like local places like dealerships mechanic shops etc and the area in which i live in is so fucking like stuck in the 90s and 80s that like people still carry around checkbooks man it's crazy so I can't remember last time saw somebody write a check at the grocery store. i see you i see it like
00:26:47
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I see a check here every fucking day. Somebody's writing a check or cashing a check. or Man, I'm sitting there holding the check looking at the register. play How does this work again? I don't understand this.
00:27:01
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And then next customer is like 20 years younger. Tap.
00:27:07
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He's not saying people don't have checkbooks. They just don't carry them with them everywhere they go anymore like used to. i don't I don't have a checkbook. like I haven't owned a checkbook in fucking well over a decade. don't currently have a checking account. I canceled all that. I have a savings account. That's it.
00:27:23
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If I don't have the cash for it, I shouldn't be buying it anyway. The fact that Brittany is as young as she is with a checkbook is sort of shocking. Shocking but not surprising.
00:27:36
Speaker
Reassuring. not Not even not not reinsuring at all. I don't mean that to be a dick or anything, but I'm just like, I don't know. i i understand I understand the argument.
00:27:50
Speaker
But what if the all the internet went down? You can't check your bank account. are you going to know how much money you got? If all the internet went down, ah last my last worry is going to be how much money do I have?
00:28:01
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My worry is about why the internet went down and do I need to go in survival mode?
00:28:10
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But here's the thing. All the internet won't go down. I mean that partially in jest, Brittany. I'm just saying. I think
00:28:21
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being as old as I am and seeing checkbooks from when I was a kid until now and and in all the other technology we have to track our money and use our money and stuff, it's like it's like It's like if I was in the 80s and I saw old people walking around with abacuses and do transactions, it's just weird.
00:28:44
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Abakai.
00:28:48
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I owe you this many.
00:28:53
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like i yeah I run into people like, man, I wish they'd keep teaching cursive in school. I'm like, do you do you write in calligraphy? Well, no. Why would I need to do that? Yeah, I know how to calligraphy.
00:29:06
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It's an interesting art. Yeah, it's it's it's an art form.
Speculations on Alien Life and Ocean Exploration
00:29:10
Speaker
I agree, and I'm not opposed to that. My point was, if we're going to teach old stuff, ah ways old communication skills when it's irrelevant now for the sake of just teaching it to communicate, I think is redundant and backwards thinking.
00:29:28
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Well, the thing, okay, like, ah for instance, Morse code.
00:29:33
Speaker
How many people know Morse code? But what if the lines go down and all you have are those old analog systems?
00:29:43
Speaker
Who only takes checks? I was thinking the same thing, but I wasn't going to ask out loud. Who only takes... man if That's rare as fuck. Yeah, I mean, usually it's only... I've seen that. No personal checks.
00:29:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's... I like cursive, but it isn't necessary. I mean, cursive right now... I mean, honestly, cursive's not even... Incursive, I think, is really only taught just so people learn how to sign a signature.
00:30:10
Speaker
But even at that point, people's signature is whatever the fuck you want it to be. As long it's consistent and and it's trackable back to you. that's That's all.
00:30:21
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You can write... you can You can sit there and write, literally spell out Brittany, K-N-E-E-C as your signature in cursive for the rest of your life.
00:30:32
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And sure, it's not your official name on your birth certificate, but it'll become your official signature you make it. That's how easy signatures are. It's so weird that we use signatures in that way.
00:30:44
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But it's a symbol. It's it's more of a symbol than it then it's about the actual cursive writing. Your signature is your symbol, basically. They used to say, make your mark.
00:30:56
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That's how many were illiterate.
00:31:00
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Yeah, signature mark, yeah, same. Yeah, interchangeable, yeah. Make your mark. And being where I live, I literally, but on those checks, I've seen people actually put an X. That's their signature. I've done it. Not for a... I used to do that with my credit card receipts, X.
00:31:18
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yeah There's a lot of illiterate people where I live. A lot of uneducated people. So that's that's the extent of their writing. Put an X. Kids depend on analog clocks and phones.
00:31:34
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I'd say they depend more on digital than analog.
00:31:39
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You know, anybody...
00:31:43
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If you... if you i don't i'm not I'm not opposed to relying on digital. I'm not opposed to understanding analog, but if you're going to bitch about people not knowing analog and not knowing how to read the sun and a sundial, don't want to hear it.
00:31:59
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don't want to fucking hear it.
00:32:04
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I know what you meant.
00:32:10
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Don't be. You're fine. Don't apologize. You're the only chatter we have. It's always ball busting around here. Absolutely. ah where do we We were talking about aliens.
00:32:24
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We were talking about panspermia. We started talking about technology advances. Because you were saying that we'll never make it to another planet. We'll never. ever yeah but So the type 1 civilization can har harness all the energy that a planet has to offer and use it at maximum effect.
00:32:43
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100% energy use the planet. on the planet So what would type two be? Type two is when you can harness every last ounce of energy out of your local star.
00:32:56
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Like a Dyson sphere type thing. Okay, so i've heard I've heard of a Dyson sphere. It's been ages since I've... I don't even know what the fuck a Dyson sphere is. So what a Dyson sphere does is you build it around the star.
00:33:10
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It kills the light from the star. And what it does is it just absorbs that... that ah power yeah eating from your star and translates it into energy and you can use it at 100% capacity.
00:33:24
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That's a type 2. That would totally fuck up your own planet, wouldn't it? Cut out the light on your planet? that i thought Or the Dyson sphere? Unless it's like transparent. But then again, what if you did that to ah neighboring a neighboring star that doesn't have life in their galaxy?
00:33:47
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and somehow Then you got to be able to get to that star. but But I mean, if we're building fucking, we're building shit around a star, we could probably already get to another. You know what I mean? That propulsion doesn't equal energy.
00:34:06
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You know, energy absorption. Completely different. I like that comment. It's not wrong.
00:34:17
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and one gets a star oh man
00:34:23
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man man oh man oh man oh man so a type three civilization can harness all the energy in their solar system all of it at 100 capacity like from all the other planets and asteroids like what energy What energy do you pull from an asteroid? They've got all sorts of rich minerals and things.
00:34:50
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Oh, when you're talking about energy, you're not you're talking about you know yeah ri all resources. yeah Yes. At that point, we're just becoming cancers over the fucking universe.
00:35:02
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We are the virus that agents depend on.
00:35:06
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We are the cancer. Fuck humans. We really are. Mankind is the worst thing that ever happened anybody. Oh, man. Fucking A. Ask any animal ever what the worst thing that ever happened to them was. They'll say man.
00:35:20
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i don't, you know, I have no sympathy for us becoming plastic brains then.
00:35:27
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We deserve it. All we do is consume. We do. All we do is consume. we Well, humans make tools. I won't say all we do is consume. In order to consume, we have to make too.
00:35:40
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Humans are great tool builders. I mean, we like our potential our potential is vastly being underrated and um
00:35:54
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misused.
00:35:58
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we suck. True words have never been spoken. ah People are two thumbs down.
00:36:08
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i mean Okay, so the idea of harnessing the power from our Earth, just from their geothermal, solar, wind, hydro, even nuclear, oh ah petroleum,
00:36:29
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It just seems like,
00:36:33
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i don't know, the thought of it just seems like it's life-draining. It's like we we're like we're like humans will one day just evolve into Galactus.
00:36:43
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We already kind of are.
00:36:47
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We just become a world eaters. but We already kind of are. Think about it. I mean, Agent Smith, that that is such a great, yeah, exactly right. Humans can be great just because I know I'm great being stupid.
00:37:00
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That's for sure.
00:37:02
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What are the tools used for? Consuming gas, food, everything. No, it's not just, well, i guess, I mean, consuming, would would consuming knowledge be something that would be, I mean, I know what you mean by consumable resources, food, et cetera, et cetera, but we also use tools to to explore, to gain knowledge, to to learn, to to share,
00:37:29
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to to create good things, to helpful things. So I don't think it's, I mean, yes, we're consumers, but i don't think we're that's necessarily all we are.
00:37:41
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The concept of sharing. and You're taught in kindergarten, shares share, share, share. But then as adults, we don't share. No, because when we, because somewhere between high school,
00:37:58
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and our career, we start learning that sharing is okay when the when the goal is the boss's profit. but
00:38:12
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But when it's your own profit, you're out for yourself. I think that's backwards. I think that's so backwards.
00:38:24
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I'm not going to go down an economic critique right now. but There's a new energy they're working on that uses the ocean's motions. The ocean's motions.
00:38:36
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Like the wave of action. These collectors just, the waves roll over it and roll over it and roll over it. and that kinetic energy just turns shit and makes energy.
00:38:48
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doable Completely zero footprint. It doesn't hurt anything, doesn't take anything away. It's just out in the middle of the ocean sucking up power from just wave actions. I'm going have to look at it. That's fucking interesting.
00:39:00
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that's really its See right there. Ultimately it's the survival of the fittest. Now that's supposed to mean, and it's all right. When that, when, when Darwin coined that term, it wasn't supposed to mean the fittest within a species, like, you know, humans combating humans.
00:39:17
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It was the survival fit of the fittest of species, like species versus other species. And it's really not even species versus other species. It's, It's species versus the material conditions and which allows it to either evolve, not evolve or go extinct.
00:39:36
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So it's really like, what's that? have comment right here. It's great comment. We should be researching the oceans more than space. I couldn't agree more. We have a lot more, a lot more fight here on the planet than we do out in space.
00:39:52
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We can do more with what we can do here on the planet. and there Now, there is a lot of ocean research going on, but I agree. think I think we'll find a lot more of our answers to help ourselves if we explore the ocean. more Well, apparently, we have not even explored 10%, 10% of the submerged areas on Earth, the oceans.
00:40:14
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A lot of it's still inaccessible, though. That's that's the that's the biggest reason. Because of the pressure. Sure, sure, the deepest parts. But, I mean, sonar? You would think that by now we would have sonar maps to the entire ocean floor.
00:40:30
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Not even close. Really? Not even close. Hmm.
00:40:38
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What are we missing? that why we have Is that why we haven't found Atlantis yet? Yes, that's exactly right. I think that the Atlanteans are the ones. Sorry.
00:40:49
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Sorry.
00:40:52
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but Hand check. yeah Oh, you're both both pressing buttons. Can we get producer, please? The Atlanteans the ones that are, you know, foiling our attempts at doing this. That's what it is.
00:41:03
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Who is? The Atlanteans. They don't want to be discovered. No, it's people trying to use PlayStation controllers to fucking a deep dive. That's what's ruining this. PlayStation controllers superior to the Xbox controllers, sir.
00:41:16
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I forgot what he used, but I think it was a PS2 controller, to tell you the truth. It was. It looked exactly like a PS2 controller. You're talking about James Cameron.
00:41:29
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So, alien movies. I wanted to touch a little bit on sci-fi and our zeitgeist. Not just movies, but
Conspiracy Theories and Local Phenomena
00:41:41
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when it comes to our depiction of what we think aliens are, it's all based on our made-up media. Everything. Like, what What we think an alien would look like is so not anything I think we've even imagined.
00:41:58
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If that makes sense. No, exactly. Not exactly? Okay. Imagine what an undiscovered alien would look like. Yes.
00:42:10
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What's it look like? What's the planet it comes from? Is it a carbon-based life form? Is it a bacterial-based life form?
00:42:20
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It doesn't matter if I tell you any of that stuff.
00:42:24
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Because my essence of my question is because we've never discovered an alien at all, what would another carbon-based life form look like?
00:42:35
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There's still a myriad of options. A myriad of options. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I mean. Everything that we have thought of right now in all our zeitgeist, Star Trek, Star Wars, every other sci-fi movie out there with depictions of aliens,
00:42:50
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Green men, gray men, long lanky men, short fat aliens, Boba Fetts, not Boba Fetts, Jabba the Hutt, Darth Vader's and all that, all those aliens, all from our imagination.
00:43:04
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And not one of those imaginations might even come close to what a real alien is. Oh no, might not. Because we don't know. don't don i don't even think we can put might in that sentence.
00:43:16
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Yeah.
00:43:18
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I think, honestly, I think we're so we we'd be so far off base because I think when we depict what are what we think aliens are, it's all full of our own biases. Well, the thing is, like, dave thought there was this really cool show. I can't remember what it was on.
00:43:33
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Not the History Channel. might have been Learning Channel. It might have been. It was Alien Anatomy or something like that it was called. And what it does is they were talking about the different kinds of environments.
00:43:45
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Mm-hmm. that that they know for sure are from like, you know, a radio spectrum, light spectrometry and things like that. as They can tell what gases are in an atmosphere and shit. And because of that, they look at possible types of creatures that would still thrive in an environment such as that if they were to gain, you know, complex life.
00:44:06
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And some of the interesting concepts they came up with were neat, like these creatures that look like giant jellyfish, kind of, and they were just floating on like methane through methane excuse me methane clouds and shit because it was a gas giant planet type thing like jupiter for instance and these creatures were just floating through the atmosphere because there was no way and it's all atmosphere
00:44:29
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Is it accurate? Who knows? But it was it's an interesting concept. By taking what they know about life on Earth, adapting it to other environments with different mixtures of things.
00:44:40
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For instance, ah giant insects used to be a thing here. You understand that? Yeah. know and There are no giant insects now? For different lots of reasons. Not just because the density of oxygen went down, but for other reasons. But the oxygen level... Primary reason.
00:44:55
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The primary reason is the oxygen level. Right, yes. So there you have it. They take those things that they've learned from our fossil record and whatnot and take a good educated guess on what life on other planets may look like depending on what kind of planet that is.
00:45:10
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And I think that's a really interesting concept. However, is it accurate? We don't know. Like you say, we don't know. Because we're still... To find that proof of what an alien actually looks like.
00:45:20
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because we're only applying what we know, and what we can imagine. What we know is definitely not enough in my opinion. In my opinion. That's because we haven't discovered anything yet, so I think that's pretty obvious.
00:45:34
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If history shows itself, they have been showing us aliens for decades now, trying to get us to grasp the concept. Or like Blaze says, we are way off. ah See, i think that I think when you say they, I'm assuming you mean Hollywood.
00:45:49
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Or artists, authors, or whatnot. The government. The government. I think the government's just as clueless on it as us. tell you the truth. I think i think a lot of the a lot of that shit, the government, the secret files, it's just unexplained phenomenon there's no answer for.
00:46:09
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you familiar with let's see, there's UFOs then there's SFOs, submerged. on device so USOs, unidentified submerged objects.
00:46:21
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um ah I'm not, I've never heard of that before, but I can see where you're going with that. Check into that, man, because there are some like
00:46:30
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hoarding According to the Sungeist, legit naval and Air Force videos of these things that start off in the air, submerge, and they travel just as fast underwater as they do in the air.
00:46:47
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That's interesting. Or they fire right out from the water and then off and gone and out of the atmosphere.
00:46:57
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I'm not saying they're real. I'm saying they're really interesting. Oh, absolutely. I'm just... i Yeah, check it out. It's USOs, Unidentified Submerged Objects. Check check out.
00:47:09
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Dude, it's a rabbit hole. I just wasted the rest of your day, buddy. There are so many compelling videos. And again, they're military stamps and everything. Now, um I don't know if they're real. i don't know how authentic.
00:47:22
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Now, I've seen military videos before. I know what they look like. I can make i can make That's why I want you to look. You have that. I'm just that experience. I don't have the ones I've seen, though, or ones that were people dying.
00:47:37
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Unfortunately, I'm not proud of the videos I've seen being an ammo troop in the military. ah Some of our there are there's some munitions out there that have cameras on them. And there's other cameras that we get videos back from.
00:47:53
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from the munitions that hit targets. And we would get the videos back, filter back down to the bomb dump, and some of us got to see them sometimes. And it's not pretty. War is not pretty.
00:48:04
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Anyway, I don't know where I went down that rabbit hole. I brought up military videos. USOs. USOs. USOs. Let's see. I live in the same town as this guy who's seeing the Tic Tac.
00:48:18
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What is that? Seeing the Tic Tac? No, it's a tic-tac. It's called the tic-tac. ah So here's my pinky, right? It looks kind of like a big tic-tac.
00:48:30
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Tic-tac items in the sky.
00:48:34
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Oh. It was in a huge documentary. I play golf with some very interesting stories.
00:48:43
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I'm not going to write that. I've seen the tic-tac. See, I'm glad I brought this up because I'm learning shit that I didn't know Tic Tac and USOs. Check them both out. Tic Tac and USOs.
00:48:56
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I feel like I'm going to them. So USO is usually you find them in airports. Airports still have USOs?
00:49:07
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I think so.
00:49:10
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Tic Tac. That one really um and i find interesting. I remember when I was ah living in Phoenix, Arizona, I had been there for a couple weeks, and I didn't know that they did this thing with kites when it got dark at a certain time of the year, and and that everybody would put lights on their kites, and I'm standing on the balcony my apartment stoned as fuck, looking up at the sky, seeing these fucking lights going all over the place, and I'm like, what is going on, and I'm like, these ain't aliens, Josh, there's got to be a reasonable explanation,
00:49:49
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freaking out your fucking stone. Where were you? This was in Phoenix, Arizona. Did you see the Phoenix lights? Hold on. I'm not done. And then I called a buddy. He was like, yeah, that's something they do every year with kites and stuff. It's just something they do at the university. was like, oh, okay. I'm over here tripping balls, man.
00:50:10
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Okay. What are you talking about now? The Phoenix lights? You're not familiar? Mm-mm. The entire city, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reports, the exact same thing.
00:50:23
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Yeah, it's kites. It's literally, if you don't know about it, like it's kites. as People put lights on the kites and they dance them around in the sky. It's just something a bunch of people do yearly. In Phoenix.
00:50:35
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In Phoenix, Arizona. Yeah, that's all that is. So I've never heard that explanation. It's as simple as that. but reports all across the city saw the shit yeah but it's those professional high flying kites no shit yeah ah what a bummer man i'm gonna look into that more it's taught me something i mean the phoenix lights are a huge deal and like the ufology community yeah
00:51:08
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And if it's that simple and you know it just like that, I mean, why how come this hasn't come to light more often? or or or want you What about that one thing? You are so excellent at your technical jargon.
00:51:22
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Who? Me? Oh, her? Brittany. You know that one thing? And Callie.
00:51:29
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Remember that one movie with that one person that started that movie? You know, the guy from that thing? He's that guy.
00:51:39
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Got give us more than that, Brittany. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. That could be anything.
00:51:46
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But that way the one USO submerged thing was right off the coast of California. Not far from, I want to say mi Miramar. Miramar still thing out there?
00:51:57
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don't know. i don't I don't know. I don't get too much into alien conspiracy theories. I'm familiar with some of them just because they're talking about. Miramar the base that trained the top guns. Oh, okay. That's Navy, man.
00:52:10
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Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right.
00:52:18
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ah But, know what that's saying. ah
00:52:24
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But yeah, the UFO thing, but yeah. Maybe she's talking about the Tic Tac. I don't know. there's See, that's thing there's so much UFO things. like Like I said, I'm familiar with like Roswell conspiracy theory and That's probably about the only one that really pops in my head.
00:52:41
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But, you know, I mean, I i used to watch X-Files, so I'm familiar with with what was said out there because that whole show was based off of conspiracy theories and UFOs and zeitgeist fucking rumors.
00:52:55
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Unexplained phenomenon. Which, don't get me wrong, the show was kind of fun to watch. A good friend of mine, the Chief, he has a great theory on the X-Files.
00:53:07
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It's the dumbest show of all time. Never watch a second of it because it's just complete waste of your life. He said, why is the government spending all this money to fool one guy when a bullet costs 38 cents?
00:53:23
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And
00:53:27
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I thought, that is the truest thing I've ever heard about the X-Files. Why are they spending all this money to fool one guy That is the biggest pothole in fucking TV history. It's like that a bullet just costs 38 cents. It makes no sense. The government is all about cost effectiveness.
00:53:43
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There's no way they're doing that to fool Fox Mulder. Well, I don't think they're that fiscally responsible.
00:53:53
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Oh, my. J.J. Abrams did a documentary called UFO. The USS Nimitz story is in I've heard of Nimitz. Yeah, well, homeboys, MK's friend who was in the documentary was the radar guy on the Nimitz for this event that they discuss. Okay.
00:54:15
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I think he was with me on the USO's thing.
00:54:20
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Yeah, check that out, dude. It's really interesting. USO's, totally different, totally interesting. How about the, ah have you ever heard, that kind of getting in the a wrong with conspiracy? Is that okay? Yeah, that's fine. That's fine.
00:54:31
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The Germans fleeing to Antarctica and the disks and all that. Have you heard ah any of that noise?
00:54:39
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I've heard some gibberish around UFOs and Nazis and stuff. But again, like a lot of a lot of those alien conspiracy theories, although fun to listen to, I don't really retain a lot of them because...
00:54:53
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They're just stories. There's no proof in them. So there's fun to talk about. They're interesting and they're fun. Exactly. But where's the actual proof? Like there's a, it's been debunked in so many different ways. I i like, I'm going to give a free plug for another ah YouTube channel. I love the Y files.
00:55:11
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Have you ever checked them out? Jay, AJ at the I file, but Y files outstanding shows. They talk about all sorts of weird shit. And then he debunks and or supports it at the end. Like he'll really, there's a whole team of these guys and they research the shit out of what they do.
00:55:29
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And then at the very end, he debunks it like the stories are great. And then at the end, it's like, oh man, really? None of it was real? Oh, man. But they're great stories. Like, he'll walk you through the lore.
00:55:42
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And then at the end of the thing, he either debunks or tells you, there I can't find any evidence can to the contrary. So this one's up in the air. I can't debunk it. I can't say it's real, but it's definitely plausible.
00:55:53
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And I find that really, really interesting. The rumor is Hitler UFO technology. Definitely wild shit. That's what I need to say here. um You know, um I have heard some of that stuff. And I do want to say this. When it comes to some of the I think they updated that that acronym. It's something else. UAE. No, yeah Unidentified Flying Phenomenon or some shit.
00:56:19
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Anyway. UAPs. Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. That's what it is. UAPs. Some of that shit could be be other technologies used. technologies from other countries or or it could be something your neighbor down the fucking the city over working on it just out of your perspective think it's higher than it actually is or just whatever stupid people are doing stupid shit those guys like decades ago that would fucking tape a bunch of goddamn balloons or their fucking lawn chairs trying to fucking yeah and some dude actually use weather balloons and made it happen apparently and he had like a bb gun fucking yeah stupid
00:56:58
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do ah Anyway, what I'm saying is stupid people will do stupid shit and then other stupid people will see that and think stupid shit. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
00:57:09
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It's like that idiot. Remember the guy who wore the horns and shit, the buffalo head guy on January 6th? The fucking MAGA shaman dude? Sure, whatever his name was.
00:57:23
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His his ah as defense attorney in court said, and I'm quoting here, He's fucking retarded.
00:57:34
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That's people. You can't take this idiot, show him some stupid shit, and not expect dumb things to happen. You know what's funny? is there is there's this There's a specific news channel out there that is mainstream media that fucking calls themselves not mainstream media. They've got the highest viewership out of all of them.
00:57:52
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However, they actually used, and this this this defense won, that any reasonable audience member wouldn't believe what this particular ah news host would say.
00:58:04
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So if you believed him, you weren't a a rational viewer. You were unrational, which was counts for like his entire fucking audience. It was so weird.
00:58:16
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It's so weird what's going on right now. But that's a whole different
Show Closing and Future Plans
00:58:20
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story. Nothing makes sense. but Michael, I was thinking on the time that we were going to do this. We didn't really discuss it before.
00:58:28
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um we're coming up on an hour um did you want to keep it an hour did you want to go so i've got time if you're if you're enjoying the conversation um i was i was hoping to keep it around an hour okay depending on the conversation give or take we can revisit the topic again there's so much to talk about oh absolutely absolutely but this is our purpose on panaspermia Yeah, this is just a wake-up show for us and everybody out there listening. I want to thank you guys to... Oh, this this was supposed to also stream to our Chronic Contemplations YouTube channel, but I set it up this morning. You've got to wait 24 hours for to do it.
00:59:10
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So, with that being said, starting next week, Thursday at 10 a.m. Not only on the network, but we're going to stream it to our Chronic Contemplations, and I will also be uploading...
00:59:23
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the other two videos that we have prerecorded that I have not got around to doing, which I keep procrastinating. Somebody needs, it's not the typical nonsensical network show here. It's not, it's not, but, the but we, but we wanted to, Oh, I'm not going to lie.
00:59:39
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I suggested bringing this to the network um for simplicity reasons. So, and Michael was happy enough to oblige. Look,
00:59:50
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As long as we keep doing it together, i don't give a shit. but Air it on a toilet wall for all I care. We see the stupid things people do and realize it's stupid. And stupid people see that stuff. They see goals and try to help you. The other stupid person is definitely entertaining.
01:00:07
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See, TikTok challenges aren't something new. And yes, Brittany Errata, it is irrational and unrational. You'd have a good one too. Irrational. Thank you, MK.
01:00:20
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unrational is a word. Irrational. And besides, unrational definition. MK is more of a morning person, so this is his tip. It goes to irrational. Fucking words are made up, and I'm made up unrational.
01:00:36
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Strategery. Strategery. Hauntology.
01:00:45
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if ah if if ah if ah If other philosophers can make up words, so. So catch us tomorrow night on Retroscriptive on Nonsense and Chill. We're going to talk about Happy Good Morning, Happy Good Morning 2. It's going to be a lot of fun.
01:00:58
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Yes. Michael, you got anything? You got anything? Again, I want to thank everybody in the audience. Thanks for stopping by on a morning show on the... Sorry for what?
01:01:12
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Anyway, um also... Right. ah for future For future endeavors, we will occasionally have guest co-hosts come through. Stay tuned for that. Don't know who. Maybe some comedians. Maybe some actors. Just to shoot the shit on different topics.
01:01:27
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Early in the morning as yeah you're getting up, getting ready, eating breakfast, or driving into work. 10 a.m. m on the East Coast. 7 a.m. on the West Coast. On that note, good morning.
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