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EPISODE 9: WEEK 4 RECAP
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We recap week 4, running through the injuries and key trends that we've noticed and each host hands out their weekly player awards providing some insight on who is stepping up and who is falling short.
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Introduction & NFL Season Overview
00:00:08
Speaker
Welcome to the Nonstop Fantasy Weekly Dynasty Podcast. We are here with your hosts, Dave Reed, Ray Wilkinson, and Joey Gallo. Welcome in to the MSFW Dynasty Podcast. Once again, I am your host, Dave Reed, joined by my co-host, Ryan Wilkinson and Joey Gallo.
00:00:37
Speaker
Hey guys, doing ready to talk some ball. Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of the podcast.
00:00:45
Speaker
Love the enthusiasm, boys. We are officially in spooky season, which means we are a month into the NFL season, four weeks down, and things are getting a bit clearer of who is performing and who is disappointing so far. And we are also seeing in our leagues, the trajectory of some of the teams and who's going to be contender and who might be selling out and rebuilding for next year.
00:01:09
Speaker
But I do want to say, if you're 0-4 or 1-3, that does not mean you're out of it just yet. Oftentimes, teams just get very unlucky. You can still be a very strong team. And you just got to stick it out and keep pushing through, find ways to grind out wins throughout the rest of the season.
Contenders vs Rebuilders: Trade Talks
00:01:27
Speaker
There's plenty of stories. I know I've had a bunch myself. Ryan can probably speak to one from one of our other leagues of a team who start off slow. And I'll let Ryan finish that story.
00:01:37
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, no names. I give this guy credit by saying his name, but I was once defeated in the championship game by a guy that went five and nine in the regular season. So anything can happen. Like you said, if you're old and four, one and three, you're definitely not out of it. Still plenty of time in the season to make a comeback.
00:01:57
Speaker
Yes, if you are five and I, you can get very lucky and win the championship, had nothing to do with skill. Not giving that guy any credit. And I think being said though, this is definitely about the time in the seasons and dynasty leagues where teams start deciding this is when they're going to
00:02:16
Speaker
Just sell out for next year and start rebuilding So and this is also our teams who are contenders like I'm gonna go all in So this is when you start seeing some trade talks happening the action starts happening in dynasty league The only reason I say that is get involved be active start reaching out to these teams because the worst thing that happens Especially dynasty when you see a trade go down that you thought oh I would have offered more than that or why didn't I
Week 4 Injuries & Fantasy Impact
00:02:41
Speaker
know about that? so you got to get involved reach out to the teams that you think may be tanking and
00:02:45
Speaker
and just get after it. But listen to this podcast, hopefully we'll give you some information of who to be reaching out to. With that being said, I'll jump in real quick. No, I would just say like what I try and do is just kind of take a look at my team and evaluate the future of some of the guys. And, you know, like any team can win in any given year. But if you have guys on your team that are, you know, like,
00:03:12
Speaker
Travis Kelce. I actually put Travis Kelce on the trade block in a league that I'm in. I put Austin Eckler on the trade block in a league that I'm in. I find myself a contender in that league, but you also have to consider that some of the assets on your team are reaching expiration and you want to also try to capitalize before
00:03:33
Speaker
they their value kind of plummets so it's it's the fun of playing dynasty but just kind of make sure you're taking a look at your league and and your your team and where you are in the league standings and and uh evaluating the kind of course you want to take for the future because if you just do nothing like dave said and let it sit you could stay in purgatory forever and you also won't have any fun yeah being stagnant dynasty is the death of your team you gotta you gotta be active
00:03:59
Speaker
And kind of to the point too, I've been hearing this on the fantasy football as well. This is when you should start seeing consolidation of veterans on contender teams and younger talent on the rebuilding team. So you start seeing those shifting of assets in ages moving from one team to another.
00:04:18
Speaker
Yeah. But with that said, we're going to dive in. As I mentioned, we are four weeks in and look back a little bit at what happened in week four. Every week, there are injuries that do occur. It's the brutal reality of the NFL. But with that, that does provide potential opportunities for certain players to step up. But it also does change the dynamic of other teams as well, sometimes for the good, sometimes for the
Return of Key Players & Speculations
00:04:43
Speaker
bad. So I'm going to run through some names and kind of
00:04:45
Speaker
see what may be the impact some of these players should be. So, T Higgins got some fractured ribs. He could miss a couple weeks, could miss no time. This is kind of a pain tolerance thing, so we'll kind of see how that plays out. Kenny Pickett had any injury. People thought he was out for the year, then for a few weeks, and now he might play. So, we'll see what goes on, but it did not look good when he was on the field healthy, so we'll see what happens with a hampered Kenny Pickett.
00:05:09
Speaker
Pat Fryermouth will not be there for Kenny Pickett. He is probably going to miss about two to three weeks of hamstring. Mike Evans, he's on by, so he does have time to recover, but he had a minor hamstring injury. He was seated on a bike trying to get back in the game, so it doesn't look like it could be too bad, and maybe the buy is enough to get him back in the field. Javante Williams had a hip flexor. Could miss no time. Ed Mosel missed maybe a week or so.
00:05:35
Speaker
There's a name a lot of people I think make I don't even want to say the guys name of Malaki and I don't know it There's a another guy who's very fast on the Broncos team that people were picking up But we'll see if Jevonta actually misses any time there Justin Herbert Fred fractured a finger on his left non throwing hand He's on by should be okay. He was actually played at the rest of the game. So no real concerns there. I
00:05:58
Speaker
I'm Ron St. Brown. He was dealing with chirftail, but apparently it's the abdomen now he missed practice on. So that's something to keep an eye on. Kyron Williams, he played into overtones, but apparently got injured late in the game with a hip contusion. So we'll see if he can go this week. He did miss practice, but coming back, he got Jonathan Taylor is coming back. Well, at least designate for return in practice today.
Standout Games & Player Analysis
00:06:23
Speaker
And then Cooper cup was also designated to return to start practicing these
00:06:28
Speaker
Players both have a 21-day window to get back on the field and be active, but we'll see what happens. So Joe, what are some I guess takeaways or players you you want to call the situations that are gonna change or the major impacts from here Yeah, so looking at the list I think the one that kind of sticks out to me to have the most impact here because he is in a situation where his injury concerns me and he's actually producing is Mike Evans he's had a
00:06:57
Speaker
history of these hamstring or in general kind of soft tissue injuries in the past that have sidelined him for Two three four or five weeks at a clip It's great that they have the bye because I'm sure he would try and get back out there next week if they were playing The issue here is just reinjury and then if he ends up with the more severe hamstring strain and then you're losing him for three or four weeks obviously it creates opportunity for
00:07:26
Speaker
the Chris Godwins of the world, but if you're counting on Mike Evans, you're really hoping that this is not something that lingers. T Higgins, you know, I think the whole Bengals offense is in some trouble. Pickett and Fryer move are, again, the offense is not really doing much to begin with. And, you know, like, I'm just going to say it.
00:07:55
Speaker
Does Gervonta William stink low key this season so far? I mean, honestly, there was a lot of hype in the preseason. I bought in in one of my leagues and I'm just like, he's hurt and maybe that's a blessing because I can stick him on my bench and I can get somebody like Tutu Atwell in the flex who's actually scoring fantasy points. So, I mean, he looks healthy. It doesn't appear to be an injury related situation.
00:08:21
Speaker
But I am not losing any sleep, taking him out of my lineup. Yeah, I agree. Because I have him a lot of places, too. And I want him, because he's playing. And you're like, oh, he's just putting back at this, but he is. But I don't know if he's fully back to Javad the end. I mean, the recovery he had was miraculous as it is. But yeah, I got to stop starting him until I start seeing something. The second he went out, Joleel McLaughlin went in there. I couldn't get it.
00:08:51
Speaker
and put up like 70 or 80 yards. It's scored a touchdown. And Samaj P. Ryan is also probably burnt toast
Cincinnati Bengals' Struggles & Joe Burrow's Injury
00:08:59
Speaker
at this point. So if you ask me, like I think it's a situation where McLaughlin has the burst and the other two guys don't. And that's who I would want at this point, right? Going into waivers this week, he's the guy who I would have wanted to get of the two between he and P. Ryan. We're just Marvin Nims. Start the Nims. Yeah. Well,
00:09:20
Speaker
That's another situation. And I'll just take the other side of it. JT and Cooper Cup coming back. I think it's interesting to see what happens with them because to start the season, they're both superstars expected to make huge waves. But their teams have actually had a lot of production from guys in their positions. Zach Moss has produced with JT out.
00:09:46
Speaker
You know, will they continue to use that Moss or does JT just take a full down, you know, three back roll again. And same thing with Cooper cup. They've, you know, had some other receivers step up. So does he come in and automatically get all the targets that he's used to getting, or do they keep two, two and puka involved? Uh, and that'll, it'll be interesting to see.
00:10:08
Speaker
Yeah, I swear Cooper Cupp hurt us last week. And I sound like I haven't heard anything about him. I don't think he's coming back. He's like, oh, oh, really? And then also news started breaking.
Team Performances & Fantasy Expectations
00:10:17
Speaker
The JT one's weird because I
00:10:20
Speaker
Is he going to play for it? I still don't know what the situation with that's going to be if he is going to play if he wants to get traded. So it is murky. If he gets traded, Zach Moss wheels up still for the rest of the season. But definitely, that'll be in it. I don't have any shares. So I'm fine. I'm just going to watch and let it happen. No Zach Moss or no JT. So it's purely entertainment for me. We'll see what happens.
00:10:44
Speaker
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if it was a situation where he goes out there and plays and then you and then he kind of like you see him kind of hampered on the injury report every week and plays actually turns out to be more like, you know, barely plays, but still accrues his, his, his year, his league year, which is important, obviously from a contract perspective, but I don't know.
00:11:10
Speaker
A lot of the updates have been coming from the Colts and not from JT. So I'd be interested to hear an update from him that says he's actually going to play football for the Colts. And that's a good call. To accrue a year, he has to play six games this season. So he can't sit out the whole season. He'll be still under contract. But if he plays six games, then he will be a free agent. Yeah.
00:11:33
Speaker
With that, though, I guess there was a lot of football that we played. There were some big performances. We'll definitely get into some key names a little bit later. But I guess overall, what were
Fantasy Awards & Standout Performances
00:11:44
Speaker
certain games or teams that you saw that kind of stood out, maybe made a statement, or if good or bad, I'll just call out right now, the Giants think on ice. And I am no longer having any hope there.
00:11:58
Speaker
Dead inside, moving on. But yeah, I don't know, Ryan, if there was any certain games that kind of stood out or performances you saw that you think really changed your opinion.
00:12:09
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think we could start with the Bills Dolphins game just because that was probably the most hyped up game of the week. And, you know, the Bills put on a pretty dominating performance, 48 to 20 win. Josh Allen and Diggs both had huge, huge fantasy weeks, which is always great to see.
00:12:29
Speaker
You know, I leave it to you guys. I was curious Do you think it was more of the bills are really that good or the Dolphins were a little overrated? Going into that having put up 70 points My my thought is that it
00:12:45
Speaker
It was probably the spot more than anything else, right? Like the bills are at home and they have the extra motivation of hearing how Miami is now, like the team to be even the division and Miami's coming off a 70 point, you know, drudging of Denver. So.
00:13:05
Speaker
To me, it feels like maybe the spot. And I think what'll happen is, for the rest of the season, from a power ranking perspective, I still say Buffalo is marginally better than Miami. I don't think they're significantly better just as a result of this particular game.
00:13:30
Speaker
Although it's nice to see that when the Bills care, they still kind of have it in them. I think that was like something that we talked about earlier in the season
Valuable Fantasy Assets
00:13:36
Speaker
where like Josh Allen was just kind of like going through the motions and when you've made deep playoff runs for like, you know, years consecutively, but you haven't gotten to win a Super Bowl, you can kind of like get bored out there. So when the Bills are trying hard, which they clearly were trying hard this week,
00:13:55
Speaker
You're still good. Yeah. And I will say that the one other thing that we didn't mention when we talked about injuries, you know, traditions white going down for the bills, I think, you know, we don't talk a lot about the defensive side, but that is a huge injury for them. And I do think kind of hurts their Super Bowl aspirations going forward, unfortunately. Yeah. I mean, that defense is still very, very strong. And I think that's an edge the bills have over the Dolphins. But obviously losing a player like white
00:14:25
Speaker
that changes how you scheme for in, in like the plays that you call from the defensive side. Um, but to Joe's point, like Josh Allen and the rest of the offense and digs, like they, they look fired up. Like they had an extra motivation and it's exciting to see because when they are on, like they're, they're one of the most fun teams to watch too. It's just like so exciting. Um, and Josh Allen, I would take
00:14:46
Speaker
I'm not just mad. It's not a bull take. Every single person would probably take Josh out over to it. And I think that also kind of gives him the leg up in the power rankings if you're comparing the two. Joe, what about you? Any games that stood out to you? Yeah, you know, I guess the two teams that kind of stick out are Cincinnati and Philadelphia. I think Philly, I mean,
00:15:15
Speaker
as a Giants fan and just in general not someone who's particularly fond of Philadelphia, I
Surprising Performances & Strategy Adjustments
00:15:23
Speaker
think that they're being undervalued right now a little bit in the media. I think part of the dialogue and a lot of what I'm listening to and content that I'm consuming is kind of like what's wrong and why they haven't looked like they looked last year.
00:15:38
Speaker
last year i think maybe was the exception in terms of just the way they would dominate teams in the first half and they still have some uh ground i think to make up this year relative to last year on the defensive side i think their linebackers seem to be
00:15:56
Speaker
slower this year. And I think that's the area where they're kind of the hole right now on the defense. But just because they're not blowing teams out, the offense is still impressing me quite a bit. Every time the Andre Swift touches the ball, he's going for six or seven plus yards. He's been, I mean, if he can stay healthy, which has always been the thing with, with the Andre Swift,
00:16:19
Speaker
I mean, he he looks great. He doesn't even just look good. He looks very, very, very good. And very swift. Yeah. Like to the point where like coming out of week one, we were like, oh, wow. You know, like Kenny Gainwell is the lead back here. And then Kenny Gainwell misses week two. And Swift puts up a really strong performance. And now Kenny Gainwell probably getting like 30 percent of snaps. You know, like it's you can't possibly go away from somebody who's playing that well. And
00:16:48
Speaker
You know, I think that their passing game sans Dallas Goddard looks great. I mean, Devonta Smith is doing Devonta Smith things, AJ Brown is doing AJ Brown things. You know, I think like part of what I was hearing on like the Bill Simmons podcast is like,
00:17:04
Speaker
you know, bad play, bad play, bad play, and then a bomb to AJ Brown. That's not really what's happening. It's actually it's been better than that. So I think that I think that for a team that is was in a tough spot coming into the season with that Super Bowl losing hangover situation,
Player Performance Impact on Standings
00:17:22
Speaker
right? A lot of teams in that situation do have it down, like do do kind of step back.
00:17:27
Speaker
the year after. The fact that they are still kind of piecing it together, have been dealing with some injuries on defense and are still 4-0, I think they're in a good spot. I'd be happy if I was an Eagles fan. Yeah, I mean.
00:17:41
Speaker
We're Giants fans, so I'd be happy to be almost any other fan. But I think the difference in chemistry point, they're obviously still one of the best teams in the league, but the defense is just not. Like last year, the defense was like silly dominant. They're just not that right now. The D-line is strong, but the secondary has been hampered with injuries. They're getting beat up on passes, which that did not happen last year. You can throw all over them. Like Sam Howell looked great against them. I do think Sam Howell has improved, but again,
00:18:12
Speaker
He would not have done that last year. And I don't think that talent is as off. I think it's the offensive coordinator change. I don't think that the play calling is as great, but also like, and I've been saying too, Jalen Hurts doesn't look as explosive and dominant, but he's also learning now a new offense. So that could be part of why he's a little bit uncomfortable is because of that change. And that is like the thing that happens to a lot of quarterbacks.
00:18:39
Speaker
Again, they didn't lose talent on the offensive side if anything, they gained it. So I do think throughout the season, they should improve, but I think those are probably two main factors on the Eagle side. Yeah. No, I agree. I have the coordinator stuff on both sides of the ball stuff. Yeah. And then I know you mentioned the Bengals. They are just broken. Yeah. And I don't see it getting better anytime soon, to be honest. I think you almost have to write this year off as.
00:19:07
Speaker
If you're in the Bengals organization and if you're a fantasy manager who was counting on Bengals players to carry your team this year, I don't think that they're going to get better until Burrow has time to actually heal. I'm not sure that he's actually going to heal going out there and playing every week, maybe miraculously after another five or six weeks of mediocrity, he starts to
00:19:34
Speaker
get to the point where he can throw the ball downfield again and starts putting up numbers. But I think the more likely scenario is they lose a couple more games. And then he goes on the IR for four weeks. Maybe he doesn't even come back at all the rest of the season. They might just take this year as an old redshirt, which is unfortunate. But now T Higgins is dealing with rib issues. And it's not a good situation, I think.
00:20:03
Speaker
They have a week seven bot. I was just looking up. So maybe after that thing's turned around, I don't know how long it would take for Burrow to finally get right. But I agree. Until he's right, that team is not going to be right. Yeah. And they get the Cardinals this week. So maybe they can turn it around with a win there. Frisky. Frisky Cardinals. Not looking so bad either. So yeah, it hasn't been great for the Bengals. Yeah. Like, I just think.
00:20:30
Speaker
I, for, for whatever reason, he can't throw the ball downfield and what, and the defense is know that he can't throw the ball downfield. So they're all just pinning, like they can just kind of sit on whatever short routes he actually can throw.
Week 4 Game Analysis & Fantasy Implications
00:20:45
Speaker
And there's, he also can't move in the pocket. Like he just is sitting duck. Yeah, it's, it's brutal. It's tough to watch. It's tough to have on your team. And, uh, yeah, I mean, that's part of why I.
00:20:58
Speaker
and down on my team to do anything this year, because I'm going to need more from Jamar Chase that I think he's going to actually be able to get me. I'm assuming, though, long-term in dynasty, you're not changing your opinion, Jamar Chase. Yeah. Or borrow. I actually think it's probably a good opportunity to buy borrowing diamonds. I agree. It sucks. They should have just put them on the IR at the beginning of the season.
00:21:25
Speaker
Not the best, but this is the mindset shift in a dynasty versus redraft. Like in redraft, yes, you probably have to dock those players a little bit, but dynasty, these guys are still elite assets. It's a rough patch. You got to get through it. If you're a contending team and you feel like this is going to derail it, maybe try to figure out a workaround or a stopgap, but these are not guys. You're just like ship off for nothing.
00:21:51
Speaker
A couple other quick hitters. The Lions look very strong, which is weird to say. But they look like a very good team after dismantling the Packers on Thursday night. And Montgomery, in my opinion, looking like a top 12 back now with the workload he's getting.
00:22:07
Speaker
the bears. We're playing against the Broncos kind of just like helps you, I guess, makes you look real good. Fields had no rushing touchdowns, but he had four passing touchdowns, I think, and looked very good for most of the game.
00:22:23
Speaker
in Bears fashion, they still lost. And I believe I saw that the Bears are the only professional team to not have won a single game since Elon Musk completed the sale of Twitter. So that's not because Elon is just bad luck for the Bears, I guess. The Rams did win. The Rams are like a surprisingly decent team.
00:22:48
Speaker
When Kyron, I was like, Joe, I was out on a, Joe made one of the savviest moves I've seen ever. He traded Zamir White for Kyron to like the Josh Jacobs owner in our other dynasty league. And Kyron is looking like currently to the state, like you would have taken him with one of your first five picks and re-draft if you knew you were going to get production. Like you just removed the name and said, this is production you get. Kyron is showing out and then obviously Pook is dominating. So the Rams look great.
00:23:16
Speaker
Tampa Bay is looking surprisingly strong with Baker at the helm going into New Orleans and winning like and
00:23:25
Speaker
Baker over car right now seem crazy before but is easily take Baker over car at this moment cars just killed a latte and so some crazy catch and like I know Joe's gonna touch upon this lady but the Kamara catches two yards I think is record-breaking I don't think anyone has ever
Fantasy Letdowns & Reassessments
00:23:43
Speaker
had that much yardage with that many like little yards without many catches before I think it was like half
00:23:48
Speaker
before, so it wasn't even close. Texans look great. We'll get into that later. Patriots don't waste it. Every Patriot, there's like not a useful Patriot out there. I had them plus seven every which way last weekend. And it was, they were in that game for like, probably six fucking minutes of real time, not even of game time, but, but 12 minutes to go in the first quarter. I knew I was dead. Yeah.
00:24:18
Speaker
Yeah, that was, uh, Harry was letting us know. That was just, that team is just not good. Uh, we just, and I think on the defense side, they were strong and they think they lost, just lost you on so that.
00:24:28
Speaker
Yeah. They lost one of their other, uh, safeties or cornerbacks can't, can't guys. Uh, escapes me at the moment, but yes. Um, uh, we're all hoping for, uh, Bailey zappy actually getting the start. Right. I mean, I haven't heard anything, but it seemed like when they brought him in there, he was actually moving the ball around a little bit more than Mack was. So.
00:24:53
Speaker
it's something the offense isn't moving. So yes, anyone moving the ball would be an improvement. Yeah. Well, one thing real quick, just it's it's it's tough to to blame Mac when you look at the the weapons he's throwing the ball to. I mean, he Mack Mack.
00:25:08
Speaker
He stinks, but- He looks like an accountant, coming from- People who studied accounting. Yeah. The odds are severely, severely stacked against him when he's got Kendrick Bourne and- Devontae Parker. Of Devontae Parker being dragged out there to catch balls for him. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't look good, but who does look good is the 49ers. Like, religious.
00:25:37
Speaker
it's
00:25:56
Speaker
Like, I wish the Giants looked as good as the Jets looked. The Jets look pretty solid. Zach Wilson put on a good showing. Might be streamable because he's playing the Broncos, who I mentioned. So I know one of our league mates is going to be starting. Zach Wilson will be entertaining to see how that comes out. And the Chiefs honestly don't look elite. I don't know how you guys feel about that. They're not bad.
00:26:20
Speaker
But they're not elite. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I don't know if the Jets are really any good, but I think it's more that the Chiefs just aren't as good as we're used to. I mean, literally their wide receiver core is just almost non-existent outside of Kelsey. So I think the Chiefs are just having a very beatable year and they don't look like the Chiefs that we've been used to for the last couple of years.
00:26:48
Speaker
Yeah. And I mean, with the Chiefs, right? They're gonna go as Mahomes goes. And Mahomes just, you know, he's human. He just had a, he pooped his pants a little on. Yeah. A couple of ducks. It was just like, what? And, you know,
00:27:03
Speaker
Ryan Reynolds was up there and he just couldn't handle it. He pooped in his pants, but they still got the win. And the defense, I think, is better in Kansas City than it has been. So that might be the difference. But yeah, we'll see. Yeah.
00:27:19
Speaker
I mean, they're a playoff team. It's just that you, when you go out, you thought they were going to smash that game and it didn't happen. But speaking of smash, uh, we, uh, starting up a new segment on how we're going to run through players. We got some, uh, awards and superlatives, if you want to make.
00:27:35
Speaker
things a little bit more funny. So we're going to do this each week, hopefully.
Disappointing Performances & Future Value
00:27:39
Speaker
It's a work in progress, but yeah, see how it goes. So first award, we're calling the Smash Williams Award. It's the weak win stud. I'm going to just throw this one out because I alluded to before. Christian McCaffrey, easy call.
00:27:54
Speaker
He just went bonkers. If you played against him, you're acutely aware of how bonkers he went. If you own him, there's like a 90% chance you probably won. The whole offense was basically running through him. He had 20 rushes, 106 yards, and three touchdowns. But oh, wait, he also had eight targets for seven receptions, 71 yards, and another touchdown. I was watching the game, and it was like,
00:28:19
Speaker
every play. I was just, Oh, there's Christian McCaffrey making another play. Oh, and scoring another touchdown. That's great. Uh, and he could even had a fifth touchdown. They, they gave property a QB sneak basically to get another touchdown, which honestly, I feel like they just knew that like they're giving the mercy call on my team at that point because that probably should have gone to see him. Uh, but yeah, smash one more. I'm giving it to CMC. What about you, right?
00:28:46
Speaker
Yeah, I'm giving mine to Josh Allen. He did what CMC couldn't do. He actually scored five touchdowns. So four passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown. He had 46 and a half fantasy points in week four. Usually we see fantasy points like that from a quarterback when they have a lot of rushing yards. And he actually only had 17 rushing yards. So he hit almost 50 fantasy points with 17 rushing yards. Pretty impressive if you had him
00:29:16
Speaker
You know, same as CMC, you probably won maybe unless you were going against CMC. But, you know, most analysts had Mahomes over him at first overall and Dynasty super flex rankings coming into the season. But, you know, I think right now it's Allen and for anyone that took him first overall, they've been rewarded so far. Are you talking about yourself, Ryan? You may be talking about myself. Let's go Buffalo.
00:29:43
Speaker
What about you, Jeff? He's going to run the ball. I mean, that's the thing, right? Every year, he goes into the season saying he's going to run the ball less. And then every year, he continues to run the ball. He's addicted to running a ball. He doesn't just run it. He seeks out contact and leaps over people. That's why he's so entertaining to watch. Yeah. So yeah, I'm going to go with AJ Brown just because
00:30:09
Speaker
feel like you've kind of been waiting for this type of game. It's funny, like, even after last week, which is kind of ridiculous thing to say, one of my brothers who was an AJ Brown owner and redrafts was saying to me, you know, is AJ Brown ever going to do anything? And, you know, it's tough to say that after a 14 target nine reception game, but then he comes out this week
00:30:34
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13 more targets, nine more receptions, two touchdowns. He looks great. And after that weird Thursday night game against Minnesota, where he only had six targets and was kind of making his voice heard a little bit about that, the squeaky wheel, as always, gets the grease. And with 27 targets over the last two games, I think he is going to continue to get
00:31:04
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Fed the ball. So if you have A.J. Brown, you're very happy right now. I'd say so. So you're saying your brother did this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is Anthony. In redrafting. Who, who, who, who, you know. I mean, not that it matters. Nobody really cares about other somebody. Anthony's fault. Yeah. I mean, I told him to draft Herbert over fields in the first round. He didn't listen. And then I told him to draft A.J. Brown. He did listen. And he was chirping in my ear because A.J. wasn't getting it done.
00:31:33
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He's getting it done. There it is. The next award we're calling the He's All That. It's a solid depth piece player who may actually turn out to be a stud, kind of like the girl who took off her glasses and let her hair down. It was actually a smoke show. So Ryan, why don't you start off with who you are giving the He's All That award to. Yeah, so I gave it to Romeo Dobbs. He's currently wide receiver 15 on the year. He received 13 targets in week four.
00:32:03
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which led to 14 fantasy points, even though Christian Watson was back. He had 12 targets the week before that. He appears to have great chemistry with Jordan Love. And Jordan Love, who was also drafted as a starter, but has also kind of surprised me. So even if Watson eats into some of his targets going forward, I still think he remains pretty relevant. And he was drafted in a really, really late round. He was drafted in the 13th round in ours
00:32:32
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was considered nothing more than a bench option. So to have him sitting at wider sewer 15 right now, and it looks like he should still be targeted pretty heavily moving forward, he's all that.
Underperforming Players & Strategic Moves
00:32:45
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I agree with that one. I'm going to go with Adam Thielen, actually. I know it doesn't feel good to put anyone from the Carolina Panthers in your lineup right now.
00:33:00
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with the type of quarterback play that they've had. I'm sure that Harry and Dan are are hoping to see a little bit more out of Bryce Young. And if not, then I'm kind of hoping to see a little bit more of the red rifle out there. Andy Dalton has been effective. I mean, he he had a little poopy pants week one. But since week one, he's averaging
00:33:25
Speaker
10 targets a game. A decent 10 or so yards per catch. He's had two touchdowns. And he, you know, like, let's not forget, right? He's, he's been a fantasy stud many times in the past, right? The last, you know, four or five years in Minnesota, he's been a very, very strong fantasy asset. And I think he was just kind of the old busted this year. So
00:33:50
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Adam Deon's probably one of those guys where if you have him on your dynasty team and your team stinks or you're not going to be a contender, you should 100% be trading him to a contender for some sort of younger value. Yes, that the consolidation of veterans, that is an exact perfect asset there that should be shifting from a team that's rebuilding to a team that's contending.
00:34:17
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For me, it's kind of a combo. I'm leaning more into Nikko Collins, but it's very much tied to also CJ Shroud. Both these guys are looking like very high-end options currently, but they would both jot the very late to be more depth bench options. Nikko, first of all, he just went off for seven receptions for 168 and two touchdowns on nine targets. He's currently the wide receiver seven on the year.
00:34:43
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and he's commanding targets with an absurd 19 and a half yards per catch, which is just crazy. This guy is just bigger than everyone on the field. He's always been a Matt Harmon darling, and someone who I always drafted as well, because I'm addicted to those big, fast receivers. There's like a throwback type of player, and he's showing out right now. But the reason why he's also able to show out is CJ Stroud looks incredible.
00:35:12
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Ohio State quarterbacks have been getting a lot of blowback and the stigma that relates to them because they haven't really showed out in the NFL and he is
00:35:21
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completely changed in the narrative there. He's currently on pace to shatter NFL passing records for rookies. The current record is 4,374 by Andrew Luck. He's on pace for 5,151 yards through four games. And he has no interceptions and six touchdowns on 151 attempts.
00:35:43
Speaker
He's reading the defense well, he's making credible throws, and he's sustaining fantasy success for these wide receivers, but usually rookie quarterbacks can't do so. These two guys, Cesar Strat was probably on your taxi squad, or maybe your third quarterback, he's dropping rookie draft, and Niko Collins is probably a wide receiver four or five. They are studs now that they are gonna be every week play, so they're getting to mind, he's all that award.
00:36:10
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Moving to the Doug Flutie Hill Merryward. This is the Dart Throw streamer that kind of saved the week for you. Kind of came out of nowhere. But going to toss this over to the Rhydogs first. Yeah, so I wrote down a couple names for this one. I initially wrote David Montgomery. Not that he came out of nowhere, but he had 33 fantasy points in week four.
00:36:35
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That was after he missed week three and was questionable going into the game. So there was a lot of speculation that he would be limited. Uh, I know some people probably even had him on their bench as a result. And it was painful if you did, because the lions gave him a full workload right out of the bet, you know, right first game back. So, um, you know, that'd be kind of my.
00:36:57
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my first initial guy. That would be me leaving him on the bench. I did in one league as well. I'm with you. He's the first name that came to my mind, too, for that same reason. Yeah, he wasn't expected to do what he did. But then he got 33 fantasy points from him. But then I decided to also go with Jono Smith, who has kind of come out of nowhere here. And to me, as a real streamer that could have given you some fantasy success, he had
00:37:26
Speaker
15 and a half fantasy points finished as the number three tight end. Uh, he wasn't even on benches to start the season. Kyle Pitts was the clear cut number one tight end, but somehow here we are week four. And not only is he outscoring Pitts, but he was the leading receiver on the Falcons with 95 yards. Um, you know, more than last week, he was just floating out there on waivers. Exactly. So, you know, some people might've picked him up after weeks two and three, cause he did have some points there, but
00:37:56
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I doubt anyone actually started him in week four.
Team Performances & Strategy for Future
00:37:59
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He's John Smith, no one's starting him. But if you did, he gave you some great production. And going forward, if they keep using him like this, who knows? He could be startable.
00:38:11
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Yeah, I picked him up for a bi-week fill-in in the dynasty this upcoming week. And honestly, I feel pretty confident. I'd much rather have him in there than Kyle Pitts right now. What is going on in Atlanta? Unexistent. Crazy. What about you, Joe? Yeah, for me, it's probably Khalil Herbert because I just felt like a Hail Mary to play Khalil Herbert.
00:38:40
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uh... going into this week after half-point performances of nine six and two points the first three weeks hadn't gotten more than nine carries had seven the last two weeks and it's a shame because he when he yet when he gets the ball he's running for over five a carry they just don't give the ball they'd rather just i mean granted they're they're usually in a negative games for game scripts but
00:39:05
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it was good to see him get right against an atrocious Denver defense was on the field for twice as many, almost twice as many snaps as he had been in week one. And I hope that the bears will kind of look at this and say, we got to get Khalil Herbert the ball more. We got to focus a little bit more on the run game, get
00:39:32
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the ball out of Justin Fields hands and stop letting him hurt us with his, you know, passing and, um, yeah, I mean, that's just, that's obviously coming from somebody who has some shares of Cleo Herbert and wants to see him succeed. But I, you know, I, I had zero confidence putting him in the lineup this week and he came through. So.
00:39:55
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Yeah, I agree with that one, as also someone that's multiple shares of Kulu Herbert. He just was a value in drafts and was not looking like that the first three weeks, but hopefully he is now.
00:40:05
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For me, it's another combo, cheating a little bit. But again, these guys feel a little bit tied together. The main one is Michael Wilson, rookie wide receiver for the Cardinals. He was a third round rookie. He got a little hype in the pre-draft. He got very little hype in the pre-draft process before the NFL Draft. But after the draft, starting in some hype, because when an NFL team uses day two draft capital, you kind of pay attention there.
00:40:32
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And the wide receiver class, very small, he's not. He's a true receiver at 6.2 and 2.13 with solid athleticism. And the reason he fell, he had a lot of injuries in college at Stanford, but he did produce when he was on the field. And the reason why there was some hype after the draft is you look at the other competition in Arizona, and it's really just Hollywood. There's not other receiving targets there.
00:40:58
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So there's a pretty clear path and now that's actually coming to fruition You start seeing his snap count increase over the past three weeks and this week finally I doubt anyone started him but he got seven targets and he earned those targets and he went seven four seventy six and two touchdowns and they were very solid routes he ran second touchdown he actually Split two defender got hit and going to the end zone. So these are big boy touchdowns and he actually made a
00:41:27
Speaker
even get higher quality targets later in the season. He's going to keep getting more and more target share. But Kyler maybe come back if and when. We don't know still. So those targets could improve by quality. But who knows? Because the other guy, Joshua Dobbs.
00:41:42
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this guy
00:42:03
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in his own team effectively. But he has turned around and made this a very frisky Cardinals team, who was supposed to be the worst team in the NFL. He is currently QB 16, completing 71% of his passes and rushing for at least 40 yards each of the last three weeks. And the last two weeks, we were against two of the most elite defenses in the Cowboys and the 49ers.
00:42:26
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He's getting the job done and you just scoop them off for literally nothing and you can easily throw them in as your QB 2 in a super flex. So Those were the Hail Mary talk throws for me the Cardinal boys
00:42:40
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Moving on, we got the Ferrari in a trailer park. So despite a bad matchup or situation, whether it be back QB, bad team, whatever it is, this player still seemingly got the job done and provide a value for you in this past week.
00:42:56
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And I'll start because this is my boy, Sam Howell. I saw him last week was very bad. He had negative point, four points. So you were definitely expecting this to be another negative game for him going up against what was
00:43:12
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expected to be a very strong Eagles defense. I think many people were expecting the Eagles be potentially the top scoring defense in fantasy this week, but not so fast there because Sam Howell, his biggest issue the week before is he kept holding onto the ball for way too long and throwing up ducks when he did get rid of it.
00:43:33
Speaker
And just a week he was, he got the coaching and he seemingly got the ball of his hands much faster. He got sacked nine times last week, still got sacked four times this week. Again, it's a strong D line, but he threw for 29,
Week 5 Watchlist & Emerging Trends
00:43:48
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290 yards in touchdown on 71% completion rate. And he ran for another 40 yards and six rushing. So.
00:43:54
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He stepped up and he didn't throw any picks and if you had him, I think he ended up being a very side QB too I think he ended up around the QB 13 of the week. So definitely a solid solid contribution from my boy Sam Howell But what about you Joe who you got for the Ferrari in a trailer park? Yeah, it was a good bounce back from how it was good to see I'm gonna go with Alvin Kamara and
00:44:19
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He's my Ferrari in a trailer park because the team looked disgusting. Kamara actually looked disgusting. Derek Carr looked very, very injured. And yet he still was targeted 14 times. Even if you're only pulling in two yards per catch, like he pulled in in this game, you're still going to get
00:44:42
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decent points, even in half point per reception leagues. I mean, like 14 targets is incredible volume for a running back. So turned out to be 13 catches for 33 yards to just how bad that is. Incredible, incredible enough to. But I think part of it too is the fact that at a certain point, the defense realized that Derek Carr couldn't throw the ball and he was just stepping back and checking it down the entire game. But so.
00:45:13
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Long story short, right? He's got an AC joint sprain car, which is not a long-term injury. So hopefully he's able to get the ball around the field in the near future. If not, hopefully we see James Winston out there who will continue to be a pick machine, but he'll also get the ball around the field.
00:45:33
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I didn't see it, but I heard he threw one pass in the game, and it was an interception. He literally took it, and you could just tell. He's like, I'm fucking throwing this down. This is my chance. Thumbs it up into double coverage. It was the most classic James throw of all. I love it. But yeah, I think Kamara, it's not always going to be pretty. In fact, this week, it was gross, but you could have done a lot worse.
00:46:04
Speaker
That's right. What about you, Ryan? Yeah. So I went with John Robinson. He had 16 fantasy points in week four, despite the Falcons losing 23 to seven. He had over a hundred yards rushing and another 30 yards through the air on five catches. You know, we just talked about the Falcons a little bit earlier. John Smith was the leading receiver. I feel like this team is a disaster and I watched that whole London game. They looked pretty bad.
00:46:32
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Ritter had two interceptions, one was returned for a touchdown. Did you watch in Toy Story mode or real mode? No, I actually watched in real mode, but I heard some of you may have watched it in Toy Story mode. My son doesn't like me watching football a lot. He wants to watch his own shows, but the Toy Story mode he was into.
00:46:51
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and kept asking for. So it was the only way I was able to watch football with him in the room. So I mean, that's a win-win, right? You at least can say you watch the game. So yeah, it was good. But it was better than nothing. Yeah, I heard it was pretty cool. And I could see kids liking it. So yeah.
00:47:07
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Um, but yeah, so he's my Ferrari in a trailer park because I feel like the Falcons are a mess right now, but he's still putting up very serviceable fantasy points for you. Oh yeah. And I, this week, I think he gets the Texans who are sieve on the run D so he might go for 200 yards. Yeah. And you can even just see watching the game when he touches the ball, the announcer is almost like gas because he's just so electric with the ball in the sand. Yeah. He does things.
00:47:35
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You don't expect anyone to do it. It's, it's incredible. And he's just so powerful with it too. Like he, um, he is elite. I get why people are talking about him being generational. Yeah, for sure. Um, moving down to the next award, this is the 28 to three award, uh, the score of the, uh, Falcons, which we just thought that and Patriots Super Bowl score at halftime. It's the biggest dead letdown award, uh, because obviously we all know now.
00:48:05
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they end up losing that game. So which was the biggest dud or letdown for you, Rhydogs? I went with Joe Burrow. I know we already talked about him a little bit and it's most likely due to injury. But the reason I went with him is because I feel like if you own him, you still have to start him, or at least up to this point, you've felt like you have to start him. And if you've started him,
00:48:31
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He's had zero touchdowns in three out of four weeks. He had four points in week four, and he just doesn't look healthy. He's currently the QB 31 on the year. He's just been a huge letdown week after week. It's tough to sit someone that is such a big name and that you invested such high draft capital into.
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00:48:56
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I think going forward, you might have to start considering him if you have another decent option because he just doesn't look healthy out there. I got to ask for next week or week five, are we going to start Joe Burrow against the cards or Zach Wilson against the Broncos? Both of you guys, who are you starting? I would start Burrow.
00:49:21
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I think I would too, but that's the thing. It's not like a super easy answer. Like, there's just, there's no winning in starting examples. You're like, I had to start him. He might actually be the only quarterback in the entire league who I would start borrow over at this point. Like I think any other quarterback, I like it. There's, there's,
00:49:45
Speaker
See, the thing is, right, like you have to be in a dynasty making that decision. Like I'm going to dynasty and I have Garoppolo on the bench and I'm benching Burrow for Garoppolo. If you're in a redraft, though, there's there are significantly better options on the waiver wire than then Zach Wilson. So Burrow is firmly getting attached to the pine until he demonstrates that he can throw touchdowns again. Yeah, and that's so sad. So who is your twenty eight to three award?
00:50:16
Speaker
Yeah, so I'm going to go with Jameer Gibbs and it's just I've been very disappointed by everything that I've seen from the Lions usage of Gibbs so far this season. It's not necessarily a reflection on the player. He has definitely flashed and his
00:50:36
Speaker
He looks explosive at times. He also looks like he's getting kind of stuffed up. You know, like he's not a huge back, right? So they try and run him up the middle and he sometimes doesn't have a ton of success. I know overall his yards per carry numbers are in the four or five range, kind of what you like to see. But the usage is what's killing me, right? Like you're talking about a second round draft capital pick in redraft and
00:51:05
Speaker
He's only averaging like between 35 and 40 percent of snaps when Montgomery is healthy. Even in the game, Montgomery missed. He's only he only played 60 percent of snaps. Montgomery is getting all the carries inside the goal line. He's getting significantly more volume. I just think that this offense has a a a sneaky large number of mouths to feed.
00:51:32
Speaker
And when you kind of think about, I'm on Ross St. Brown and now we're going to add Jameson Williams into the mix and a dominant RB one. And he's not going to have any targets. Don't worry about it. I'm maybe, but maybe he does. Right. Like your target style concerns me about Jameson Williams coming back is like you kind of wanted Jameer Gibbs to play that role. He's only going to get a couple of these like high impact targets that he's
00:52:00
Speaker
hopefully going to turn into explosive plays and or touchdowns for your team. And if now he's sharing those with Jameson Williams, you know, there's only four to go around and he's getting, he's going from getting three of them to getting two of them. Like it's not going to be good. Uh, when he's already, you know, two of the four weeks, he's only gotten two targets, uh, hasn't scored a touchdown yet. His, his highest performance on the season is, is at 23rd overall, right? So like the very, very, very bottom barrel RB two.
00:52:30
Speaker
And yeah, I mean like in redraft you paid second round draft capital and he has less half PPR points than Khalil Herbert who we just talked about Zach Moss Jerome Ford Rashad white a lot of like just mediocre shit running backs who went in the mid rounds who you weren't really expecting a lot from and You know, I know it's a long season but what this kind of reminds me of a little bit is
00:52:59
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Uh, the Rams backfield, I don't know what the actual year was, but when cam acres was a rookie.
00:53:07
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There was a lot of Cam Akers hype coming out of camp and he ended up getting drafted pretty high. I mean, not second round high, but he ended up getting drafted pretty high. And then Darryl Henderson ended up just kind of dominating the carries and the touchdowns and everything all season. And then in the playoffs, Akers was a stud and going into the next season, it was like, oh, Akers is going to be like, you know, the, the, the.
00:53:32
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You know one of the top running backs and then he tore his AC or towards Achilles and camp and here we are with acres, but I think it's a similar. It could be a similar situation where you don't where you're frustrated by Gibbs during the season and then end of season playoffs into next year. He finally kind of. Gets involved more in the offense to do a little bit more, but right now he's just a small piece of the pie. Unfortunately.
00:54:00
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Yeah. Uh, I mean, I, I own Monty everywhere. Uh, well, I think it, like a hundred percent on it, percentage, I think. Uh, so I've been very happy with this. Uh, but it does think seeing a player that electric not getting the usage, especially when you saw the reaction they had when they drafted it makes no sense.
00:54:17
Speaker
For me, the 28-3 award is going to Jordan Addison, who just put up a goose. He had one target and didn't catch it. So he gave you zero points and made no sense because this looks like a matchup that he should have feasted on.
00:54:35
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Panthers D in the secondary is not overly strong and not really scared of it and cousins started the game with a pick six So they were behind they had a throw And they just didn't Addison to make no sense What was going on there that the somewhat alarming thing there too? Is that there was a significant drop in his snap percentage to the first three weeks? It kept increasing from 56 to 69 to 71 and then drop down to 58 so he wasn't a
00:55:02
Speaker
overly high usage, but that that's like somewhat healthy from a rookie, but it's weird to see that step back in that game script and that low of usage. I'm not overly concerned long term, but.
00:55:14
Speaker
Definitely not what you want to see, because I thought this was going to be potentially one of his biggest outputs of the year. And then, just an honorable mention, Chris Olave went one for four and six targets. But that's more car, as we kind of mentioned, because he was just throwing, I think, negative yard passes to Kumar, because he just can't get it to Olave and Olave feasts on the air yardage. So yeah, that was just bad. But hopefully better days are ahead for Olave.
00:55:42
Speaker
I think the only thing I'll add on Addison, though, Dave, is I think Carr only completed like 10 passes or something like that. So there should definitely be some cousins for him. Or cousins, sorry. He only completed like 10 or 12 passes that whole entire game. So I think that's part of it. But cousins was bad. Cousins was bad.
00:56:06
Speaker
Somehow won that game, but yeah, they're bad. The last award that we have is the, you're not that guy. You're not that guy, pal. Trust me, you're not that guy. Yeah, this is a performance that it was just so bad that we are now reassessing their value going forward. I'll start off real quick. We're Mondre Stevenson. I'm a Mondre guy. I have a lot, so this hurts a lot. He just has not been good this year. He's averaging 2.73 yards per carry on 60 attempts.
00:56:34
Speaker
He hasn't eclipsed 60 yards rushing yet in a single game. Last year, he averaged 4.95 yards per carry on 210 attempts, and the year reported a little over 4.5 yards per attempt. So the efficiency is just gone this year so far. And you also compare that against his running mate, Zeke, who's much older, same offensive line. He's averaging 4.06 yards per carry. So something's off there. Obviously, Ramon Dre is getting a little bit more work,
00:57:02
Speaker
Zeke's getting done and Ramonja's not. You're also not seeing the targets that Ramonja was getting last year. That was a big part of his game. He was getting all the receptions, all the check downs. The past three games, his target totals were three, four, and three.
00:57:18
Speaker
He only caught 60% of those too. So you're not getting the half point or full point PPR points that you expect to get a Raimondre. He has had a very rough schedule to start, and it doesn't stop this week against the Saints. So maybe better days ahead, but I am very, very concerned when I thought at first you had, at the very least, a mid to potentially upside RB1. He's looking.
00:57:44
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you're hoping more of an RB two going forward. So he's getting my, you're not that guy award. What about, uh, what about you, Ryan? Yeah. So, I mean, I agree with you there on Stevenson. Uh, we actually traded him away for Madison. Um, you know, hoping we were getting an upgrade there, but Madison also hasn't looked that great himself. So it's kind of a wash, but he's looked better than Stevenson, but he's had more than six yards rushing. Yeah.
00:58:10
Speaker
Um, but for my, you're not that guy. I went with the Jones brothers because both of them have just looked terrible. So we'll start with Mac Jones. He was serviceable through three week three, but week four was bad. He finished with negative fantasy points and he was actually benched in the blowout loss. He threw two interceptions before he was benched. We talked about it a little bit already, you know, maybe that becomes in, but.
00:58:37
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They did announce he'll remain the starter for now. So we'll see how long that lasts, but, uh, it seems like he's fighting for his job. And then Daniel Jones. Yeah. That one hurts me as well. Obviously I was super high on him. I thought, I really thought he was going to have like a top five year, but boy, was I wrong. He's had three out of four weeks with less than five fantasy points.
00:59:01
Speaker
But that one week just really just a huge second half against the Cardinals. So I don't know if we can really count that for too much. Um, but yeah, I mean, week four, two interceptions, no touchdowns, fumbled was sacked 11 times. Um, and you know, he was forgiven by a lot of people for weeks one and three, because he went against the 49ers and the Cowboys who are great defenses, but.
00:59:29
Speaker
You have to start to wonder if last year was more of a fluke and he's actually not that good. Yeah. I mean, I don't blame Daniel Jones completely. The offensive line is like an utter mess. Like he has no time to do anything. He doesn't have really any true weapons to throw to. It's all slot receivers, but he's also been making mistakes, not bringing things in part of it. It's.
00:59:50
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You feel like when you've tackled that many times and sacked that many times, you start speeding up the game a bit too much and you're not thinking it straight. And that's kind of what you saw on that pick six at the game. He just knows he's going to get tackled, so he just has to throw it out. Still, not what you want to see at your current franchise quarterback. It's just painful. It's crazy that 14 out of the 16 quarters this year, like the Giants are just
01:00:17
Speaker
the worst stats ever. I think they've led for 19 seconds all season so far. It's insane the bad stats that the Giants have right now. Something like, yeah, they've led for 19 seconds, which somehow they won the game. But yeah, they've led for 19 seconds in four weeks. It's crazy. Yeah, it's gross. I hate it so much. It's so weird, too, because, I mean,
01:00:41
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I'm going to reserve judgment on Jones until they get Andrew Thomas back. They also lost their rookie. He's a rookie. The guy's playing center for them. He ended up going down in the first quarter of the game against Seattle. So early in the game, they had Waller kind of in the backfield doing a lot of blocking, which seemed to be working.
01:01:10
Speaker
Look, you can't telegraph the passes to your first read like he did on the interception. And I mean, obviously he should know at this point of his career to be scrambling with two hands on the ball when he's like, that has the most lost fumbles of any quarterback since he came into the league. But, uh, yeah, the pass protection is when he's throwing the ball, when he has time to throw the ball, he looks good, but it's just, yeah. Uh,
01:01:38
Speaker
he's another one where, you know, I don't know what the situation with Andrew Thomas is. I know he had that weird. He practiced limited on Thursday and then didn't didn't practice at all Friday. So it was like, did he re aggravate? Did he just get out there and realize that the hammy wasn't good to go? So I, unless they're playing a team that has absolutely no ability to rush the passer, then
01:02:02
Speaker
You're probably putting him on the bench for the, for the near term too. I'm pretty sure our team can rush to pass there against the chance. Unfortunately, it's going to be able to.
01:02:12
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Um, yeah. So for me, uh, rather than to pick specific guys, I just kind of call this my, my shit list of the week. I think maybe we'll keep this going as a recurring segment. And these are guys that I would toss in the trash bin, not have on your roster under, under any circumstance until further notice. And I want you guys to let me know if you agree, right? Like do these guys, like to me, none of these guys deserve a roster spot.
01:02:42
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under any circumstance right now. So number one, Kyle Pitts.
01:02:48
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What do we think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dynasty, yes. Yeah, I guess that's what we're talking about. Sorry, redraft. But yeah, so. Redraft, I don't need them in redraft. Honestly, in Dynasty, if he puts up like a big week with a touchdown or two, like I might try and sell because it's concerning. It was like, you know, for a while it was free high pits and now it's like,
01:03:13
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Well, John Smith seems to be a lot more open, and maybe it's a Kyle Pitts thing. I feel like it's more of the routes that they're running. I think John is just running shorter routes that they're thrown to, or Kyle Pitts is running downfield. He's downfield more. Yeah, and Ritter can't hit it. He is the worst quarterback in the league. He's the second quarterback that I would start Joe Burrow over in the end. Yeah, that's what I would. He stinks.
01:03:45
Speaker
For pits though like when does that even change you know like if you have them in dynasty like are you just gonna
01:03:52
Speaker
sit around and wait for a couple years. I just don't see it. I would if I couldn't get value in a trade. But he's 22, 23 years old. So he's got a decade in the event of hell in him still. As long as time of being like Kyle Pittsy, like what he was supposed to be coming out of college, like that athletic wide receiver. Oh, like seven years. Yeah, yeah. But he's going to be in this.
01:04:19
Speaker
garbage Atlanta offense for another. Yeah. That's the thing. Your stuff there. Like there's no possible way. I would put.
01:04:28
Speaker
a million dollars that he will not be the starting quarterback for the Falcons or any team next year. So you just got to hope that the situation improves in the year terms. Dave wants to take that bet. I hope so. I have pits and another dice a week and I paid off a lot to get them so I can't make this to turn out. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Raiders thinks.
01:04:50
Speaker
uh next on the shit list van jefferson i mean this guy's on the field for like ninety percent of snaps and he's like
01:04:59
Speaker
third year in the offense, fourth year in the offense, you think he would have some sort of a rapport with Matt Stafford and he just stinks. He can't get open. When he does get open, he drops the ball, get him off my team. Josh Kelly stinks. They have these backs that I've never heard of before in my life. They sound like they came in off the street just gouging Vegas for 20, 30, 40 yards last week and then they bring Josh Kelly in and he
01:05:29
Speaker
I had Josh Kelly for the past but not this past week but the two weeks before that thinking it'd be great especially the ends of Vikings started in both those weeks did nothing I didn't even compare who I was picking up I was like this guy is just getting dropped I'm not ever playing this guy ever again get him out of here and that's kind of what we saw from him
01:05:49
Speaker
the last couple of years when he had the opportunity. I almost put Josh Palmer on the list instead. He's like on the verge of being on my shit list because he's another one who consistently gets the opportunity and it's just the wide receiver version of Josh Kelly. Yeah, seriously. Like I could not possibly think of a soundbite better than that. I was not trying to pick up Josh. I've done this before. I know what he does. It's just you keep starting because like he should be good. Like the matchup's great. There's no one else. No, he is just bad at football.
01:06:18
Speaker
Uh, next on the list, Dalvin cook, another one who looks like he's running in quicksand. Like he looks like he has like 30 pound weights tied to his ankles. He is just, not only is he slow and, uh, in a situation where he's going to be in like weird game script for the entire season, but so here's the thing about cook, right? Like if you're, you're either starting him this week against Denver.
01:06:43
Speaker
or you're cutting him and you're never looking back, right? Like if you have him and he's on your bench and you're not playing him this week, then with four teams on by and the best possible running back matchup of all time, then cut him, let him go. So I personally think he's toast. I didn't even bother putting him on the trade block in my dynasty where I have him because what can I get for him at this point? Like a fucking fourth round pick at best? I think he's done.
01:07:16
Speaker
And last but not least, and this one might be a little harsh, but Antonio Gibson, the guy's killing me. I mean, like Brian Robinson looks significantly better. Gibson is dropping the ball. He's running into the quarterback.
01:07:28
Speaker
Can't get so much hyped out into the season two. Yeah, I know I had him in redraft and I actually did just drop him So I completely agree with that one. He you can't start him right now. So yeah, you know, what are you gonna do with him? It's tough when you see a running back in the same offense having so much success and you're just like honestly like you're running behind the same line you're running in the same place, so You must just not be good
01:07:55
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So that concludes my shit list of the week and we'll be back next week for the next installment of Joey's shit list of the week.
01:08:03
Speaker
I hope everyone enjoyed that segment. I thought that was pretty fun myself. We'll get some fun drops in there. Now moving over, just give a quick update on how our league of record, the non-South fantasy weekly dynasty league is progressing. An update on the high and low through week four. Week four, the Wilkinson brothers actually put up the highest score of the week with 165 and Clark and Sauce, that's what I'm calling them now.
01:08:33
Speaker
put up the low with 82, but neither of those scores were able to take over the lead in those respective categories. The top score still goes to Cropa with 177 and the Wilkinson brothers still have the low with 63. So I'm trying, that is going to be a hard load of people with buys coming up and we'll sort of see what happens. That's my hope. We've had two teams close the last two weeks and that's without buys. So, you know, hoping
01:09:03
Speaker
with some buy weeks, someone will be there. My love is basically with buys, though. I didn't even have enough IR spots that week. I had too many guys that were out. I literally picked up three guys off of waivers in Dynasty and started them.
01:09:16
Speaker
If there's any week that I have a chance to To eclipse that low score then this is the week. It's it's just it's gross Myles Sanders has a growing issue going on Jamar Chase. We talked about that offense. I'm starting to tight ends and one of them's Dallas daughter who is seriously waiver wire fodder and
01:09:39
Speaker
Russell Wilson had a good week last week, but again, going up against the Jets. I don't know. I feel like it's a good week to be going against Cropo because I'm not going to put up a good number and maybe I'll just annihilate it. Yeah, we'll see. You don't want to put up a good week and lose, so get the bad week out now. What's the number I got to beat? 63. I think it's like 62.9 or something like that.
01:10:08
Speaker
And on the outside of it, we're coming for Crope's high score. We got close. You've done it twice. Thank you. So yeah, you and Crope were the only ones so far who have won the weekly high. So hopefully someone else takes it. With that side, a quick update, I guess, on the division. So this was our first week of non-divisional play. So you can start seeing what some of that true strengths across the league are. And Division 3 got swept. Got what? 0 and 3. So tough showing for them.
01:10:37
Speaker
Uh, division two is actually looking real strong, which is both of your divisions. There is no team below 500 in that division. So, uh, definitely going to be a tight race there to see who wins that one. Um, and the leaders of our divisions, croak is still holding it down and the team mandated male masseuses, which is my division. Uh, Adam Cohen is currently the leader in division two. He's the only team at three and one with the other three of two and two and division three, Matt and Dan Rosinski are holding it down with three and one. Um,
01:11:08
Speaker
Each team has a different record in that division, but I think all of us are pretty much comfortable that Matt and Dan are probably going to take that one there. But moving ahead for this, who do you think are some of the make or break teams right now that this week is going to kind of decide their season for them? What games are you watching? In our league or in our league?
01:11:32
Speaker
Yeah. So in our league and, uh, Ryan, I know you have this down in the dock, but I think the big one this week is, uh, Team Rosinski versus team Cohen. Um, actually hoping for, uh, Team Rosinski to come through and get a win there because, uh, Adam's team obviously is strong in our division. And, uh, if he gets a win against a strong team, like
01:11:56
Speaker
like Dan and Matt, then puts him in a good spot. So I think we'll be rooting for team myself and Wilk, we'll both be rooting for team Rosinski. Yeah, for sure. I think it's a big, big matchup for both of them. If Dan's team wins, they probably take another game lead over their division. And if Adam wins, he stays in front of ours. But if Adam loses, it's really big for our division because, you know, the three other teams are all two and two right behind him. So a loss there.
01:12:26
Speaker
You know, the standings could really shake up in our division if he loses. So, go Rosinski's.
01:12:34
Speaker
Yeah. And I don't have too much because it does look like a crope who is leading my division has a quite the favorable matchup currently. Um, I'm trying to just keep pace with him, but he definitely has the points scored, uh, tiebreaker over me by a significant margin. Um, so just trying to keep pace with them. Hopefully he'll slip up later down and then it'll be interesting to see kind of what happens with for me, Lisa, Dan and Dacosta going up against the caffer and Mike Williams, both these teams.
01:13:04
Speaker
Are teetering on potentially having to go into a rebuild and this matchup will kind of help Push that one of these teams in that direction. So I think that is one matchup to watch Same thing kind of with the Schluter and Scott matchup as well Scott is already kind of leaning towards potentially rebuilding Schluter seems he was all of our favorites to be one of the best teams But two and two and could potentially slip the two and three might change his outlook moving forward So we'll see what happens there
01:13:35
Speaker
Moving into, I guess, the NFL just before we close things out. Going to week five, I know we just talked about a lot of players that we were feeling good about or not feeling good about.
01:13:47
Speaker
Are there any matchups or certain players you're watching to kind of see what trends are happening coming into week five? I know we have a Thursday night game, and that for me is very interesting to see what Khalil Herbert is actually going to do against the commanders, as Joe mentioned, to see if his production this past week was real. So that's something I'll be keeping an eye on. But I don't know if you guys have anything else you're looking at. Yeah, I just had the Cowboys and 49ers game down, I think.
01:14:16
Speaker
You know, that's a big Sunday night matchup. Two pretty good teams should be a good game. And, you know, we'll see if the CMC show can do what he's been doing against the Cowboys defense. I think it'll be a good game to watch.
01:14:31
Speaker
Yeah, and I'm interested to see the Eagles and Rams is one where, you know, I think there's probably going to be I mean, obviously, not surprisingly, from my take earlier, I think Eagles are a team that are probably under
01:14:47
Speaker
Undervalued in the market rams team maybe overvalued in the market but also be interesting to see if cooper cup does play is you know like matt stafford i think only has maybe one or two passing touchdowns all season right like this cooper cup coming back mean that you know regardless of where the targets going in between the twenties like when they get back close to the end zone is it.
01:15:09
Speaker
is a cup getting all the red zone targets again. So I'm interested to see that game from a fantasy standpoint on the Ram side, and probably because I'll have money on Philly from a real life perspective. Yeah. And one final one, how many points do you think the Giants are going to give up to the Dolphins? I think a million. I think all these players are just going to run circles. HAN, Myco for 200. Tyreek, 400. I don't know. It's just going to be a bloodbath. It probably won't be great.
01:15:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how many that I don't know how many Miami's going to score, but I can tell you how many of the Giants are going to score and it's few minimal. Very, very minimal.
01:15:55
Speaker
Yeah, so with that negative vibes on our Giants, we're going to start closing out the show. I want to thank everyone again for listening to the pod. Really, really appreciate it. Good luck with your matchups. Keep fighting through. Again, it's early this season. There's a lot of season left, so we'll be with you throughout.
01:16:29
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