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Parenting | *Bonus Episode* with Special Guests Episode 22
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Danny is joined by his wife, Hannah, and by Josh and Nicole Little to talk about parenting. They discuss a range of topics including discipline, heart shaping, social media, phones, struggles, patience, and more.
Resources for parenting:
Raising Tiny Disciples - Phylicia Masonheimer | also check out her webpage www.tinytheologians.com
Wise Words for Moms - Ginger Hubbard
Provers for Parenting - Barbara Decker
Mama Bear Apologetics: Empowering Your Kids to Challenge Cultural Lies - Morgan Ferrer
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Context
00:00:34
Danny Price
hey everyone. Welcome back to episode 22 of the Table Talk Discussion podcast. Kind of a different episode, really different episode for us. This is really, really exciting. We have Shane is sick, and he is he's dying right now, and he's not able to able to do a whole lot. Not actually dying. He's just...
00:00:51
Danny Price
really suffering. So he was not able to preach on Sunday. That was not planned. He literally texted, i think the elders or the shepherds and kind of the sound team, like maybe want to say half an hour before he was supposed to be there and was like, I'm not going make it.
00:01:05
Danny Price
So Bruce, our associate pastor had to teach like a last minute, like 10, 15 minute devotional. And then one of our shepherds went up and kind of led the whole congregation in prayer. We had some extra music, some extra songs. So it was
Roundtable on Christian Parenting
00:01:18
Danny Price
kind of last minute. um So because of that, we don't really have a sermon to go off of. And Bruce, I mean, it was a really short devotional and it's not like it wasn't a whole like you thought out sermon. So I felt...
00:01:28
Danny Price
Bad, trying to like come up with questions and you know break down what he was saying. So instead, what we're going to do is we have three guests with us today, which is the first for all those reasons. we've Never had just one guest. This is our first time having a guest in general. so we have three this time. So we have Hannah, my wife. We have Josh and Nicole Little.
00:01:44
Danny Price
um And we thought because Shane is going to be doing a sermon on parenting for the next, this that's his next sermon, that's a sermon he was supposed to teach.
00:01:46
Hannah
we are.
00:01:55
Danny Price
and we thought it'd be really cool just to kind of have a round table discussion about parenting stuff. So I came up with some questions and we're just going to kind of just talk about parenting, different parenting styles. um I'll have Josh and Nicole introduce themselves in a second, but we're literally just going to be just going back and forth discussing what it means to be a Christian parent and hopefully kind of set up Shane's sermon in a good way for those of you guys listening. I know some of you listening are not parents, so suck it up. You'll have to deal with it. um The rest of you guys, hopefully, um if you're still in that phase, this is beneficial for you. And also if you're not in that phase, maybe your grandparents or you're kind of past that phase, this is a cool opportunity for you to pour into other people. So anyways, um Josh, Nicole, you guys want to introduce introduce yourselves, what you guys do at the church, um your kids, all that stuff.
00:02:38
Nicole and Josh
Yeah, my name's Josh. um I,
Goals and Strategies in Parenting
00:02:42
Nicole and Josh
well, Nicole and I both were the were the directors of high school ministry. So we get together with the kids every Sunday night and kind of go through some fun games and go through um ah message and get to hang out with them and have a good time. And um yeah, we thoroughly enjoy ah being able to dive in and and participate in all their lives.
00:03:08
Nicole and Josh
We have four kids, 16, 14, 12, and 10.
00:03:09
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:03:15
Nicole and Josh
three girls are sorry Three boys and one girl. We'll set that backwards.
00:03:19
Danny Price
You guys are in the middle of it. That's a lot.
00:03:21
Nicole and Josh
Yeah. Yes, it's a lot.
00:03:25
Danny Price
That is a lot. Jeez. Oh, teenagers. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. I'm curious. um And then, Hannah, you want to introduce yourself?
00:03:33
Hannah
Yeah, I am Piana Price, so Danny's wife, and we have, for anyone who doesn't know, three-year-old, a one-year-old, and one on the way. so we're in a very different thick of it, much younger.
00:03:47
Danny Price
Yeah, the early phase. Yeah, totally.
00:03:49
Hannah
Yeah.
00:03:51
Danny Price
And one of the way, yeah, we'll see we'll see how that goes. I've heard it gets really easy like when you have three. Is that right, Josh?
00:03:56
Nicole and Josh
that
00:03:56
Danny Price
ah
00:03:57
Nicole and Josh
and
00:03:58
Hannah
The more you have, the easier it gets.
00:03:58
Nicole and Josh
once I say nothing.
00:03:59
Hannah
Yeah.
00:04:00
Nicole and Josh
Once you have three, five is nothing. I say three was hard, but then after that, it wasn't hard anymore. Like three.
00:04:08
Danny Price
OK, OK.
00:04:09
Nicole and Josh
So four wasn't hard.
00:04:10
Danny Price
That's fine.
00:04:10
Nicole and Josh
Three was hard.
00:04:12
Danny Price
That's valid.
00:04:12
Hannah
Okay.
00:04:12
Danny Price
That's valid.
00:04:13
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:04:13
Danny Price
All right. Cool. So just literally just jumping into it. um This is the first question that I kind of had just posed for us. What do you think the primary goal of Christian parenting is?
00:04:20
Nicole and Josh
I see.
00:04:24
Danny Price
um I'll let anyone jump in if you you got you guys want to just talk about that. What's the primary goal of Christian parenting?
00:04:31
Nicole and Josh
I just think it's about launching your kids into being an adult with a really, really strong foundation of who Christ really is. That's what I feel like it.
00:04:40
Danny Price
Hmm. Yeah, no, I would i would definitely agree. Hannah, do you have any thoughts? Primary goal?
00:04:46
Hannah
no yeah that's a really good answer I mean i feel like right now I'm just always like you know to raise them to be yeah like you're saying good adults and ultimately to know the Lord and love the Lord with all their heart but it's a choice that they have to make for themselves so I think that's always the scary part as a parent But like she said, just to set him up with a really good foundation of who God really is, because it's hard to not choose God if you know who he really is.
00:05:06
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:05:13
Hannah
So it's a good way to put it.
00:05:15
Danny Price
Yeah. I think that's hard. And maybe Josh and Nicole know more about this, but do you guys feel any pressure like for your kids walks a little bit?
00:05:25
Danny Price
Like not like, not not not bad pressure, because I'm sure there is a good like responsibility and weight to like wanting to make sure you disciple your kids well. But do you feel, have you ever felt like, oh man, I really hope they turn out to be a Christian because otherwise I failed.
00:05:37
Hannah
Thank
00:05:40
Danny Price
you have you ever Have you ever experienced that before? Any thoughts on that?
00:05:47
Nicole and Josh
I haven't really, i don't know. I don't feel so much like I hope they turn out to be Christian. I think primarily what, you know, our goal is, is to show Christ's love, but also to have them understand that, you know, they have their own walk that just because Nicole and I are Christians and this is what we believe, like, this is our personal relationship with Christ and and they don't get to heaven and they don't, they don't get to just jump and and piggyback off of our relationship.
00:06:16
Nicole and Josh
they have their own relationship with Christ that they need to pursue and that they need to to go after and try to to build up you know and encourage them to to seek Christ and and to develop their own relationship with him and and let Christ work in their life and not just have it be, well, this is what mom and dad do.
00:06:34
Hannah
Hmm.
00:06:38
Hannah
Hmm.
00:06:38
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:06:38
Hannah
Hmm.
00:06:38
Danny Price
That's a good answer.
Managing Emotions and Apologies in Parenting
00:06:39
Danny Price
Yeah. Cause you're right. I think, I don't know. What was your guys' backgrounds? Like really quick, just give a quick like spiel. Did you guys grow up in a Christian household at all? Or is this, is this like a recent thing?
00:06:52
Nicole and Josh
Um, we both kind of grew up in a Christian household, but it was it was kind of a, um you know, I'm not and by all means, I'm not bagging on on my parents or her parents, but it was definitely we'll go to church when we feel like it.
00:07:06
Nicole and Josh
um You know, your relationship, you know, your your walk is your walk and it kind of it wasn't it wasn't as strong as what we really
00:07:06
Danny Price
Mm-hmm.
00:07:18
Nicole and Josh
what we needed and what we we really wanted. And I think that we saw that a lot. I mean, we started dating when we were 14.
00:07:26
Danny Price
Did you really?
00:07:27
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:07:27
Hannah
I forgot about that.
00:07:27
Danny Price
I didn't know that. Oh, geez.
00:07:28
Hannah
It's awesome.
00:07:29
Danny Price
Wow.
00:07:29
Nicole and Josh
yeah
00:07:30
Danny Price
That's cool. Good for you guys.
00:07:31
Nicole and Josh
So we started dating
00:07:31
Danny Price
How long have you guys been together? Like all together, like including dating and marriage?
00:07:36
Nicole and Josh
28 years, 29.
00:07:36
Danny Price
Oh my gosh.
00:07:37
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:07:37
Hannah
Wow.
00:07:37
Nicole and Josh
yes About 29 years.
00:07:38
Hannah
That's awesome.
00:07:38
Danny Price
You guys are so, you guys are so old. just ki I'm just kidding.
00:07:40
Nicole and Josh
Yeah, we are.
00:07:40
Hannah
Oh my gosh.
00:07:41
Nicole and Josh
Thanks,
00:07:42
Nicole and Josh
Danny.
00:07:44
Hannah
So mean.
00:07:47
Danny Price
kidding. No, I just asked that. I was curious because was raised in a Christian household and it took me a second to kind of break out and like have my own faith. I think that's part of every kid's journey. And and I know had that same similar experience to to me just because when you grew up in a Christian family, it's real it's like a huge advantage because you get all that like teaching and that good theology and that good parenting a lot of love and all that stuff but then at some point you got to decide like is this me or is this just how i was raised and i'm gonna i'm gonna walk away from that which a lot of kids do um so anyways babe you want to say anything about that like your experience with that just being this is not one of the questions by the way i just was curious
00:08:20
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:08:27
Hannah
um yeah I mean yeah I think everyone has to make that decision at some point like no matter how much they know and the head knowledge they have to decide with their heart in a way that they're gonna choose that and um I think you need a little bit of both there to have you know some to be able to rely on that faith um but yeah I don't know i I feel like it obviously really helps though to have, like you said, like a good foundation of like, then if they do choose that, there's so much knowledge and wisdom of who God is already.
00:09:00
Hannah
It's not like a, wow, I'm starting out and trying to figure this all out on my own. It's like, okay, I've decided it and that's awesome. and I have all this knowledge too, you know, to be set up for.
00:09:10
Danny Price
Yeah. No, I think, yeah, it definitely can launch you up for success. I don't want to make it sound like a bad thing.
00:09:15
Hannah
Yeah.
00:09:16
Danny Price
Obviously, if you're a Christian parent, like that's, you're giving your kids a huge advantage. um
00:09:20
Hannah
Yeah.
00:09:21
Danny Price
The next question I had, which I was curious is how do you balance,
00:09:24
Hannah
is really
Discipline vs. Punishment in Parenting
00:09:26
Danny Price
again, this is for everybody.
00:09:27
Danny Price
How do you balance between shaping behavior of your kids versus shaping their heart? um Just to like, and then again, just to set that question up, I guess what my thought was a lot, I think a lot of parenting can just be behavior modification. I think a lot of Christian, Christianity can just be behavior modification of like,
00:09:46
Danny Price
don't do this, do this, don't do this. make Look good on the outside. you know when you're out You want your kids when you're out in public to be perfect little angels and not touch anything and knock anything over in the grocery store. And you know obviously you you guys have teenagers, so it's a little different.
00:09:57
Danny Price
But for Hannah and me, it's for like Sam, like don't knock that over in the grocery store, um which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing to have behavior modification.
00:10:00
Hannah
Thank you.
00:10:05
Danny Price
But then I don't know if that's necessarily the primary goal. So had what do you guys do to balance that? Because you guys are in a way different phase of life than we are, but you are obviously were... I feel like you guys were just here um you know with your with your kids. Your oldest is 10, you said?
00:10:20
Nicole and Josh
Youngest is 10. Yeah.
00:10:21
Danny Price
Youngest is 10. That's what I meant. So yeah, like you were just here. So describe that a little bit like What's the tension between behavior modification, like do the right things, but also like we're here to shape your heart?
00:10:25
Nicole and Josh
Mm-hmm.
00:10:31
Nicole and Josh
Um, I think character is really important. And like when they're little, it is about behavior modification because you can't really explain to them why we don't do things.
00:10:43
Nicole and Josh
We just, we don't do things because we don't want you to get hurt at that age.
00:10:43
Hannah
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:10:46
Nicole and Josh
But as they get older, it's okay.
00:10:47
Danny Price
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:49
Nicole and Josh
You were wrong. You did something bad, but let's talk about why. it's ah It's a big discussion and you have to get into like, well, why is that bad? Why are you being mean to your friend? Why are you starting rumors or Why are you doing this? Why are you doing that? And trying to, don't know, lead them into making better choices and displaying like a Christ-like character.
00:11:14
Danny Price
yeah That was really good. Hannah, any thoughts? Josh, any thoughts?
00:11:19
Hannah
Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's definitely like what she's saying. Like, I feel like I've struggled with that so much with these early years of like, you hear that so much, like, the focus of getting to the heart. And I desire that so much, but having two such little kids, like it's just not super possible yet.
00:11:36
Hannah
Um, that's just like kind of a hard reality at this age. Like I want to be able to talk to him and get to that, but it's just like, I mean, it's pulling teeth to him to focus for like two sentences sometimes.
00:11:48
Hannah
And, um, but I really like, um, you know, and i think even just using words, like using the words of the fruit of the spirit, using, words like that's, you know, like sin, not just like, this is bad, you know, this is bad behavior.
00:11:50
Nicole and Josh
I
00:12:02
Hannah
Like it's, that's like a focus on behavior. And sometimes I think it's even changing your own mental shift as a mom to not seeing it as good behavior, bad behavior, but like looking at their heart, even if you're still just having the correct behavior, looking at like what's in their heart that's causing this behavior, you know, and like kind of just talking to them like,
00:12:21
Nicole and Josh
Thank you.
00:12:23
Hannah
you know, and I think there's that balance of like, you can still talk to them like adults in some ways that helps like they get more than we realize, but also having, you know, somewhat low expectations, like it's a good habit to get into to talk to them like that, but also not expecting them to like, really understand it yet either fully.
00:12:43
Danny Price
when they're When they're young.
00:12:43
Hannah
But yeah, but then they grow into getting it, you know, and they get it even sooner if you start young, I think sometimes, but
00:12:44
Danny Price
When they're young. To clarify.
00:12:51
Hannah
And I'm shocked, like, i don't know, I feel like just even we only have two, but it was just each one of them.
00:12:51
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:12:51
Nicole and Josh
Mm-hmm.
00:12:56
Hannah
I feel like I'm like, they get so much more than I realize, so much younger than I realize, too. They're so much more capable than we think.
Technology and Teen Independence
00:13:04
Hannah
But yeah, I think that kind of like talking to them, like, still like, hey, like, you know, would you still, you know, people all talk about that, but like, would you like it if somebody did that?
00:13:16
Hannah
And how does that make you know you feel if some if Jenny took that teeth from you? And you know, kind of getting to the heart behind that and thinking of others and their feelings. And so anyway, there's little ways to do it.
00:13:28
Nicole and Josh
I think you see a lot. You see a lot of at least, i mean, in our kids, a lot of the heart shaping think happens through a relationship with them. It's not just about the rules. And it's, it's it's not always about, you know, their specific behavior, kind of like the behavior is like the the training wheels and, and you're, the heart is more of the destiny, the destination that you're going for here.
00:13:52
Hannah
hmm
00:13:52
Nicole and Josh
And so I think that, you know, building a relationship with them and it's not always about, you know, people are always like, well, I want to be their friend and stuff like that. So I don't find it to be something that's, that's advantageous to be their friend, but I think having a good relationship with them and making them feel like,
00:14:11
Nicole and Josh
They can communicate openly to us without judgment, without feeling like we're there to shame them or feel in a certain way. Keeps, you know, it keeps molding and shaping their heart as they get older.
00:14:24
Danny Price
Hmm, that's a good word.
00:14:25
Hannah
those are two that's a good word distinguishing like between friendship and relationship i think people always yeah like it's easy to want to be their friend but you don't have to have necessarily friendship to have a good relationship with them like to have and obviously there's that side of it but it's not what it is just that there's more dynamic to it it's a good point
00:14:44
Nicole and Josh
Yeah, definitely.
00:14:45
Danny Price
i feel like that's more of a modern day thing too. I don't think people 100, 200 years ago were saying that, like, oh, just want my kids to think of me as a friend.
00:14:53
Nicole and Josh
yeah Yeah.
00:14:54
Danny Price
don't think that was really a thing.
00:14:54
Nicole and Josh
No. No.
00:14:55
Hannah
Yeah.
00:14:55
Nicole and Josh
yeah
00:14:55
Hannah
ah
00:14:56
Danny Price
Not that it's a bad thing. I mean, i guess like being friends with your kids when they're older, sure.
00:14:57
Hannah
good
00:15:00
Danny Price
But like in the parenting phase, yeah, it's good. Good thoughts.
00:15:02
Hannah
Yeah, i think it's hard because I see, like, my parents as friends now in a lot of ways. And so, but it's hard to, like, remember, like, they weren't trying for that and they didn't have that heart motive. And then it turned out, like, that I desired a friendship in that way as I got older. But, like, that can't be my heart motive is for them to be my friend like that because that won't go well.
00:15:25
Danny Price
All
00:15:25
Hannah
I have to remind myself of that.
00:15:25
Nicole and Josh
yeah
00:15:28
Danny Price
right. Question for you guys next. How do you recover when you lose your patience with your kids? I'm sure you guys never lose your patience though.
00:15:37
Hannah
They're just perfect.
00:15:38
Danny Price
So maybe i shouldn't ask that.
00:15:38
Nicole and Josh
never
00:15:39
Danny Price
I'm sure you guys are.
00:15:41
Nicole and Josh
She is definitely much better at it than I am.
00:15:42
Danny Price
ah Yeah.
00:15:43
Nicole and Josh
Yes, she is. She's much more patient.
00:15:46
Danny Price
What do you guys do? What do you guys do when you're just like pulling your hair out and it's, and you've lost it? Maybe you had, maybe you like just blew up and yelled or something. What do you, what do you guys do?
00:15:56
Nicole and Josh
That's why you're a team. Sometimes like you have to walk away. The other parent needs to take over. I need five minutes. or He came home one day handed me a credit card and said, go to the store.
00:16:05
Danny Price
Tap him
00:16:08
Nicole and Josh
Go shopping. That's what I needed at that moment because on top of parenting, we homeschool. and so Sometimes I want to kill them.
00:16:17
Danny Price
That's right.
00:16:17
Nicole and Josh
but
00:16:18
Danny Price
You guys homeschool.
00:16:18
Nicole and Josh
Figuratively, literally.
00:16:18
Danny Price
That's it.
00:16:21
Danny Price
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:22
Nicole and Josh
i love my children.
00:16:22
Danny Price
just
00:16:23
Nicole and Josh
I don't actually want to kill them.
00:16:24
Danny Price
For the CPS that are listening to this podcast, Josh and Nicole love their children.
00:16:26
Nicole and Josh
Yes.
00:16:26
Hannah
yeah
00:16:27
Nicole and Josh
my They're very healthy and safe. yes
00:16:32
Hannah
Thank
00:16:34
Nicole and Josh
But I think after initially, I mean, I'm quick to, I can be quick sometimes depending on what it is.
00:16:34
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:16:35
Hannah
you.
00:16:41
Nicole and Josh
I mean, I've gotten better. I've worked towards getting better at it, but I used to be pretty quick just that I got angry and I i didn't understand why they did stupid things and and and stuff like that.
00:16:52
Nicole and Josh
But that was when they were little and And I just, I wasn't processing, you know, what they were doing. And so that's why it was great to have, I could walk away and I could go be upset and and Nicole could be there to to kind of comfort them.
00:17:02
Hannah
Hmm.
00:17:08
Nicole and Josh
and And, you know, that's why I think it's so important that and you have a team and that you, you know, a little bit of my background, ah you know, being a police officer for a long time, I've seen broken homes where you don't have both parents. And that's really difficult.
00:17:24
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:17:24
Nicole and Josh
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's really difficult to, to, you know, lose your temper and lose your cool and at the same time have, you know, be able to to dial that back and to be there to comfort them and then to explain them and teach to them why you're upset and what they did wrong and stuff like that.
00:17:45
Nicole and Josh
So it's, I mean, don't think it's imperative.
00:17:46
Hannah
Yeah.
00:17:50
Nicole and Josh
It's important. I mean, it's not impossible, but it's important. If you have someone there who can be your, your, you know, in there with, uh, on a team with you and be there to, to you know, help you out.
00:18:00
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:18:03
Danny Price
Totally.
00:18:03
Nicole and Josh
Um,
00:18:05
Danny Price
That's a good thought.
00:18:06
Danny Price
Babe, anything for losing patience?
00:18:07
Nicole and Josh
but
00:18:10
Hannah
Well, I do it regularly. So if that's comforting to anybody out there.
00:18:14
Danny Price
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:17
Hannah
Um, yeah, I mean, like, I definitely agree with what Josh was saying. Like, I mean, I struggle with it way less when you're home. I mean, I think there's even just that level of like accountability of like another person there.
00:18:27
Hannah
You're like, you know, that's not the parent I want to be. And, you know, I don't know, just, there's more accountability than when you're completely alone. Um, And yeah, there's more ability to kind of pass off if needed. But so I definitely think I struggle with it the most when, you know, you're home all day with them or when I'm home all day with them. But and I've started memorizing a lot more scripture on anger and frustration. I think that's a really great tool for people. I think this is interesting. Side note, but I was just telling David this. What was it? Proverbs?
00:19:05
Hannah
Gosh, now I'm going to mess it up. No, it's Psalms. I have it written down. I'd have to go get it. I'm going mess up the so quotes in Psalms. But it literally says, be angry and do not sin. Ponder in your own hearts on your beds and be silent.
00:19:18
Hannah
So i think it's funny that it literally tells you to go lay down and be quiet.
00:19:19
Nicole and Josh
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:23
Danny Price
Ha ha ha.
00:19:23
Hannah
Like, just go lay down and stop talking if you're angry.
00:19:24
Nicole and Josh
i thanks
00:19:27
Hannah
Don't sin. So obviously, it's really hard to do with like kids that could just kill themselves at any point because...
00:19:28
Nicole and Josh
yeah
00:19:34
Hannah
they can just, I don't know, touch outlets and stuff, but just, you know, if you can get away and take a second, take a break, um, just there's little ways I think to set like boundaries for yourself.
00:19:45
Hannah
I think that's a good like tip. If you struggle with getting angry, like I definitely struggle with that. And I think, I think my dad would be okay with sharing that, but I think breaking, you know, some family patterns, like no family's perfect and you're breaking patterns from your past and that's really, that runs deep and that's really hard.
00:20:03
Hannah
And so retraining yourself and setting up boundaries, I think is really a little helpful tidbit, I guess.
00:20:04
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:20:10
Danny Price
Yeah, that's good.
00:20:11
Hannah
And scripture.
00:20:11
Nicole and Josh
Yeah. I think it's always i mean, I know, especially as our kids have gotten older and we we relate to them a little bit more, you know, owning it, own it and and not, you know, you're you want to apologize and you want to come to them and and try to restore that relationship.
00:20:12
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:20:28
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:20:31
Nicole and Josh
you know i don't want them to think that because we're mom and dad that we're above um you know repentance and that that we don't need to ask for forgiveness because we've we screwed up um know i think apologizing and doesn't necessarily it doesn't weaken my authority i think it it strengthens my trust with my kids and and so it's it's important that you know not only that but we're
00:20:50
Danny Price
Totally.
00:20:57
Nicole and Josh
We're
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00:20:57
Nicole and Josh
displaying, you know, Christ's love for us. And so, you know, we want to be a model of of grace and humility to our kids, even when we have those times where we just completely lose it.
00:21:10
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:21:11
Nicole and Josh
So...
00:21:12
Danny Price
that's a good That's a good thought. Yeah, I love that about apologizing. That's something that is our it's a huge weakness that I have personally of knowing I'm not quick to apologize after I've done something like I've blown up or you know been angry or whatever, done something wrong. I think I'm, I'm a slower apologizer, which oftentimes turns into a not a pilot, not a apologizer. Like when you let something like you blow up, whatever. And then that event, like could take, you know, it's far further and further removed.
00:21:41
Nicole and Josh
Mm-hmm.
00:21:41
Danny Price
It's really hard to then go back and apologize for Cause it feels like, well, i don't need to apologize for that. That was like, you know, a week ago or days ago. So that oftentimes it turns into just not apologizing at all. And so I don't want to be that way with my kids. And I'm working on that even now. Because I mean, i mean Sam's three. He doesn't really get it. Like when I apologize to him, he kind of gets it.
00:22:00
Danny Price
But i want um I want there to be a habit there. I like that you said that because I think that's a huge... And I agree it's not... It's not weakness. It's not bad leadership. or I don't think your kids would ever see it that way. I think they would always see it as like, oh, wow, like dad's real. like He's a real person. He messes up too. I think you still want your kids to think you're a hero, but I don't think that'll darken that at all. I don't think that'll be that'll be a ah good model for them.
00:22:24
Nicole and Josh
Yeah, I mean, you got, you know, those macho men who think, well, apologizing shows weakness, and I'm never wrong.
00:22:25
Hannah
yeah
00:22:30
Nicole and Josh
And whether it's your marriage or your relationship with your kids, I mean, that's just, that's not going to be beneficial for anybody.
00:22:30
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:22:39
Danny Price
Right. Right.
00:22:39
Hannah
when then you teach them to be that way in their marriage with their kids and you know it's just a cycle and I think that if anything apologizing to somebody gives gives you so much more respect for that person that they can humble themselves and that they can admit when they're wrong and
00:22:39
Danny Price
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:22:46
Danny Price
yeah
00:22:55
Hannah
you know And you learn we're all sinners.
00:22:58
Nicole and Josh
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
00:23:00
Danny Price
All right, so this next topic, um discipline. Do you guys discipline? How do you discipline? What's the difference between, in your guys' mind, between punishment versus discipline? Is there a difference to you? like what What do you guys think about that? That's a lot of stuff I'm throwing out at you guys.
00:23:16
Danny Price
But just anyone that wants to jump in or tackle any one of those thoughts.
00:23:21
Nicole and Josh
Well, punishment, while you know I never want to punish my kids. Like I would be like, okay, you're off the hook, but I punishment's necessary because there are consequences when you make bad decisions in life.
00:23:33
Danny Price
who
00:23:33
Nicole and Josh
And sometimes punishment needs to happen. Um, I mean, they're old now. So like punishment now is like, I'm going to take phone for the day or you don't get to go somewhere.
00:23:43
Danny Price
You take phones?
00:23:44
Nicole and Josh
I do not very often, but you know, I'm going to take away a privilege, something that's not going to feel good.
00:23:45
Danny Price
What?
00:23:53
Nicole and Josh
um
00:23:53
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:23:55
Nicole and Josh
And I mean, when they're little, you know, punishment is not as fun, but you know, my child's climbing on the table, he's might get smacked on the bottom. So he doesn't do that again because he's got a huge, you know, goose egg on his head from the last time he did it.
00:24:10
Danny Price
Yep.
00:24:11
Nicole and Josh
Stuff like that.
00:24:12
Danny Price
Yep.
00:24:14
Nicole and Josh
But I think also you can look at punishment and discipline and being punishment kind of focuses on, on the past a little bit and discipline is more of, of some guidance and some, some direction.
00:24:25
Nicole and Josh
I think when, when you think of people say all the time, well, it says in the Bible, don't spare the rod. Yes. But the the shepherd that's out there shepherding the sheep, he's there as a protector. He's there to guide the sheep and kind of give them a direction.
00:24:38
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:24:39
Nicole and Josh
and And that he's not out there to beat the sheep. and And that's not how he gets the sheep to listen to what he wants them to do is by beating them with his with his staff. he's He's giving them direction. and And so that's not to say by any means that that we don't spank our children, that we haven't spanked our children. I mean, they're as big as we are now. So we the spankings have become less. So... but
00:25:03
Danny Price
There came a day.
00:25:04
Hannah
Oh
00:25:05
Nicole and Josh
Yes. Our oldest officially taller than dad.
00:25:07
Danny Price
that's so funny.
00:25:08
Nicole and Josh
So yeah. When they get bigger than you.
00:25:08
Danny Price
Oh, that's funny. That's...
00:25:09
Hannah
um my goodness.
00:25:10
Nicole and Josh
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:11
Hannah
Wow.
00:25:11
Danny Price
Yeah, but i love I love that distinction about how with like the shepherd, like you're not, you're shepherding, you're not there to beat the sheep. I think a lot of parents that are on that, that like, oh, you got yeah, you just got to spank your kids. And i think that's not necessarily a bad, the heart behind that might not be bad, but I think an application, like in practice, you can just end up just whacking your kids or let's take it a different direction.
00:25:36
Hannah
Thank you.
00:25:36
Danny Price
Let's just say it's taking away phones whatever, but just disciplining or punishing whatever you want word you wanna use just for that sake, just to stop them from doing the bad thing or to make them feel bad about the bad thing they did. But then there's no like, here, but let me show you why we don't want you doing that.
00:25:51
Danny Price
Here's what you should do instead. and there's not there's if there's none of that, you're not, I mean, you might learn in a very rudimentary sense, kind of like a science experiment, like a rat in a lab of like, okay, I do this, I get shocked you know or whatever.
00:25:54
Nicole and Josh
Oh, 100%.
00:26:03
Danny Price
But you don't want your kid to be, you want your you want to give your kid, you know, you want to shepherd them. You want to give them a good chance at succeeding.
00:26:07
Hannah
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:26:09
Danny Price
I think for most parents, at least this is how I feel, it breaks my heart having to discipline your kids. Like it it sucks. But I think it sucks worse than, Okay, how you're here, I gotta be i got be careful how I say this.
00:26:22
Danny Price
It sucks worse being that parent in the store with your kid just like off the handle.
00:26:24
Nicole and Josh
Okay.
00:26:28
Danny Price
cannot You cannot control him and you're like, what have I done? Not that we do that necessarily, but there's times where it's like we've been a little lax and all of a sudden you're like, oh my gosh, they're it's like a caveman trying to like corral Sam sometimes.
00:26:39
Danny Price
You know, he's like wild, which is part, you know, he's a kid, he's a boy, but I think it's almost worse to be in that position where you're like, I'm and i'm totally out of control. And especially as you get to teenage years, maybe you guys can talk about that of like, oh no, like if you're, if you don't get it down at some point, you gotta, gotta, you gotta be a little scared.
00:26:51
Hannah
you
00:26:56
Danny Price
Like um you missed your shot a little bit.
00:26:58
Nicole and Josh
Oh, yeah. And you definitely figure out like we have having, you know, four kids, you would think, oh, well, you know, same mom and dad. They're all the same, but they're completely different. So figuring out what works with one may not work with the other one.
00:27:08
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:27:11
Danny Price
Ooh.
00:27:12
Nicole and Josh
Like, you know, for my daughter, I can yell at her and and just me yelling at her is enough. And that doesn't work.
00:27:20
Danny Price
Like, hey, stop. Yeah.
00:27:21
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:27:22
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:27:22
Nicole and Josh
Just me raising my voice and getting upset at her is enough. Whereas some of the other ones, sit that doesn't work.
00:27:28
Danny Price
Hannah was like that.
00:27:29
Nicole and Josh
So sometimes.
00:27:32
Danny Price
One angry look or like a loud word, and Hannah was like, growing up as a kid.
00:27:32
Hannah
ye
00:27:35
Nicole and Josh
Done.
00:27:36
Hannah
we call him the We call dad's eyes his ain't his scary eyes and I'm like, you're doing your scary eyes again.
00:27:45
Nicole and Josh
I'll be like, daddy doesn't like me anymore.
00:27:45
Hannah
So I get i get her.
00:27:47
Nicole and Josh
I'm like, no he still loves you. He's just upset at you. You're okay, but you need to go talk to him.
00:27:51
Danny Price
and
00:27:53
Nicole and Josh
And then she'll be like terrified to go talk to him. I'm like, why are you terrified? Cause he's upset at me.
00:28:00
Hannah
And it ends well every time and she's still terrified the next time.
00:28:00
Danny Price
Oh.
00:28:04
Hannah
Yeah.
00:28:04
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:28:04
Nicole and Josh
shes here They're more scared of not the punishment, but the upsetting us than anything.
00:28:13
Hannah
Yeah.
00:28:13
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:28:13
Hannah
Which I think that's like a good sign for you guys that it's like they care to please you guys that it's not just, you know, it's not just that they got caught or something.
00:28:13
Nicole and Josh
a disappointment.
00:28:14
Nicole and Josh
was my
00:28:24
Hannah
They're like, we don't want to disappoint you. And that's a good, i think that's a good thing.
00:28:29
Nicole and Josh
Well, and i think it's I think it's really important that we try to also let them see, like, we're not always the the best models.
00:28:29
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:28:37
Nicole and Josh
I mean, don't by any means think that we are over here and, and you know, it's it's the Mary Poppins house over here and everything is great.
00:28:43
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:28:44
Nicole and Josh
And dan we have our moments.
00:28:44
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:28:46
Nicole and Josh
And if you like, we can bring any one of the children in here to tell you all about it.
00:28:47
Danny Price
ah
00:28:51
Nicole and Josh
people
00:28:51
Danny Price
ah
00:28:53
Nicole and Josh
Trying to do the best we can to mirror how God parents us as, you know, we're, we may be adults, but we're still as children. And so how can we better mirror how God treats us and how he, how he parents us? That's kind of how we want, you know, to parent the kids because we don't.
00:29:10
Nicole and Josh
I don't want the kids growing up thinking, well, God's disappointed in me. So because my parents were disappointed in me, this happened. So God must turn this back on me and God doesn't want me anymore.
00:29:21
Nicole and Josh
And I'm not good enough and and all this stuff. So it's finding that balance that, you know, they can feel like we're disappointed by yet, you know, there's still restoration there.
00:29:32
Hannah
grace.
00:29:32
Nicole and Josh
There's still healing and grace and everything that comes with it.
00:29:36
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:29:36
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:29:36
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:29:37
Danny Price
That's a good word. Yeah. It's interesting how earthly fathers oftentimes set up the perspective for a lot of people on their heavenly father. And if their early father, earthly father was absent, it's hard for them to see their heavenly father is absent.
00:29:45
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:29:51
Danny Price
Um, or is it, that's how they see them. Um, like likewise to with like discipline and all that, like an angry, a really angry earthly dad. i think it's hard for some kids to kind of get past that with God is it because it's got mad at me.
00:30:03
Danny Price
Um, So it takes some breaking habits. So yeah, trying to set your kids up in a good way where you're not setting them up with any, I mean, you're going to, I think that's like obviously a given is like, you're goingnna screw your kids up in some capacity.
00:30:06
Hannah
Yeah.
00:30:13
Danny Price
Like, it I mean, you're like, it's just, it's just, you have to, mean, you're, you're a sinful person trying to raise other sinful people.
00:30:14
Nicole and Josh
so
00:30:14
Hannah
and
00:30:20
Danny Price
It's going to happen, but trying to, damage control, I guess, which sounds terrible. I shouldn't say parenting is damage control, but it's a little bit it's a little bit of that.
00:30:28
Nicole and Josh
it
00:30:30
Danny Price
Trying not to have your sins seep through and using the word, using the Bible, using you know the Holy Spirit to try to do the best you can. um Let me see here. We already talked a little bit about forgiveness.
00:30:42
Danny Price
um I'm going to move on. What, what do you guys do How do you navigate this whole issue just with screens and the rectangles and internet and all that stuff what do you what do you guys do do you guys set boundaries do you guys have no boundaries do what are your thoughts as older parents really
00:30:57
Nicole and Josh
we We're probably way too strict according to some people's, according to some people's, okay.
00:31:02
Hannah
No such thing.
00:31:05
Nicole and Josh
okay So our kids have zero privacy. They actually all four have cell phones, but there is no access to the internet.
00:31:11
Danny Price
okay
00:31:15
Nicole and Josh
and no access to the app store and no social media. So any app they download, we have to download for them.
00:31:20
Hannah
Hmm.
00:31:23
Danny Price
Good for you guys.
00:31:23
Nicole and Josh
um The older two, they're 16 and 14, we just let them have the teen Instagram account because they do need to know how to navigate these things before they're off on their own.
00:31:37
Nicole and Josh
and But each of the accounts are on one of our phones. So everything they have, we have all their passwords.
00:31:45
Danny Price
Mm hmm.
00:31:45
Nicole and Josh
And it's really, really time consuming. But we go through everything. We read all the text messages.
00:31:50
Danny Price
Do you really?
00:31:51
Nicole and Josh
We do. It's a pain in the butt.
00:31:52
Hannah
That's awesome.
00:31:54
Nicole and Josh
But we read all the text messages. We've had their friends.
00:31:56
Danny Price
By we, do you mean you or do you mean Josh is this too? Or is this is this is mostly a wow.
00:31:59
Nicole and Josh
Oh, no, it's to both of us. Sometimes it's our entertainment for the night. We'll get you.
00:32:04
Danny Price
ah
00:32:04
Hannah
Yeah.
00:32:06
Nicole and Josh
We'll get in bed if we want to turn the TV on and be like, all right, let's read what's going on.
00:32:06
Hannah
Some popcorn.
00:32:13
Nicole and Josh
We've had like your little friends complain.
00:32:13
Danny Price
Oh my goodness.
00:32:15
Nicole and Josh
Well, too bad. If you're going to talk to them, you know that their their parents are watching. um So we have all their passwords. We read all their messages because you can't monitor this stuff from the outside.
00:32:28
Nicole and Josh
You have to be able to see because they're sinful people just like we are. They're going to hide stuff.
00:32:34
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:32:34
Nicole and Josh
um And then what else? um Also, their phones charge in our bedroom at night, so they don't have their phones at night.
00:32:42
Danny Price
Love that. Love that. Love that.
00:32:43
Hannah
Love
00:32:44
Nicole and Josh
um We have computers. We obviously homeschool, so they all have their own laptops, but the laptops don't leave the main floor of the house. So there's no laptops in bedrooms.
00:32:56
Nicole and Josh
Um, and there's eight people that live here cause Josh's parents live with us. So they'd be really stupid to be on a website that they're not allowed to be on with somebody walking around all the time.
00:33:06
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:33:08
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:33:09
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:33:09
Nicole and Josh
And same thing with video games, video games are in the living room.
00:33:10
Danny Price
Wow.
00:33:14
Nicole and Josh
So, uh, that's a lot.
00:33:15
Danny Price
Love that. like couch Like couch stuff, like stuff where everyone's around like can participate, yeah.
00:33:17
Hannah
are crushing it. Yeah.
00:33:20
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:33:20
Hannah
That's awesome.
00:33:21
Nicole and Josh
yes And I don't think it's, you know, i don't want to them to think that, you know, or naive to their, you know, you know, their thoughts, their, they they they live in in the world, and and they, you know, the oldest ones started going to public school recently.
00:33:35
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:33:38
Nicole and Josh
So they're around a lot more, they're exposed to a lot more.
00:33:39
Hannah
No. Mm.
00:33:42
Nicole and Josh
But I think our goal is just to limit what we can control. There's, you know, there's not a need for, for, you know, pornographic sites. There's not a need for, um, to be talking to people. Like if you have video games, you know, we've disabled the chat, so you can't talk to people on there.
00:34:01
Nicole and Josh
Um, and just setting these expectations from a young age.
00:34:01
Danny Price
Yes.
00:34:04
Nicole and Josh
So really it's not a problem. Once, once our oldest, um, you know, got 16, it's not even really a question for him anymore. He just knows what the expectations are.
00:34:15
Nicole and Josh
He knows what, the limits are. And he knows that we're going to go through his phone. And we've told him if we catch you deleting messages, then you don't have to have a phone anymore.
00:34:23
Hannah
Hmm.
00:34:27
Nicole and Josh
You don't have to have a car anymore. Like, you know, there's there's a trust factor here. um
00:34:34
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:34:34
Nicole and Josh
And we we've you know find it to be beneficial in the fact that not only does he know what our expectations are, but he is much more, at least boys and their moms.
00:34:46
Nicole and Josh
I mean, the boys come to mom for everything. But they're much more open with her about some of their personal struggles and their personal things, you know relationships, friendships and stuff like that.
00:34:56
Danny Price
Interesting.
00:34:58
Nicole and Josh
And, and Addy, you know, she has no problem sitting and and talking to me about stuff. I mean, sometimes ad nauseam, but, uh, so, but yeah.
00:35:11
Danny Price
That's cool. I really liked that. That's, those are some really good tips. We're, I mean, I grew up, I mean, for sure, like you guys did too, but like, I didn't really have a cell phone until it was like later high school. And even then it was like, I had one of those flip phones and I didn't get a smartphone until I was like 19. So I never really had to navigate this stuff when I was younger. And thank God I did not, because I'm sure the things I post would have posted or would have done would have been just horrifying.
00:35:34
Danny Price
Um,
00:35:34
Nicole and Josh
Right.
00:35:35
Danny Price
But man, we're in a we're in a different age and it's it's difficult. And it's a little bit scary for us because, I mean, we're so far along with technology now, but then looking just how far we've come in the last 10 years, like looking 10 years in the future, I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't know where it's going to go.
00:35:49
Danny Price
Because Sam's three right now. And I'm like, if he you know in thirteen when he's 13 and kind of entering the this teen phase of phones and this and that, man, it's going to be wild. So I'm proud of you guys for taking a stand on a lot.
00:36:01
Danny Price
That's a very, a lot of those things are very unpopular.
00:36:01
Hannah
Yeah, that's crazy.
00:36:03
Danny Price
What you just said, I'm really...
00:36:03
Hannah
That's awesome.
00:36:04
Nicole and Josh
Yeah,
00:36:05
Danny Price
Really cool. That's really cool that you guys are doing doing that.
00:36:07
Hannah
That takes some serious diligence. That's awesome.
00:36:09
Nicole and Josh
it's a pain, but it's important. We're really honest with them about, like I show them social media all the time and we talk about bad examples.
00:36:16
Hannah
Yeah.
00:36:16
Nicole and Josh
like this person got fired because they went and posted all this stuff on their social media. Can you imagine a teenager just having full access? they're not They're not going to think about it affecting further down the line.
00:36:30
Hannah
their lives.
00:36:31
Nicole and Josh
Yeah, there's just a lot of discernment there.
00:36:31
Danny Price
Oh my gosh, no.
00:36:31
Hannah
No.
00:36:33
Nicole and Josh
i mean, that was the word i couldn even as adults, we don't have the best discernment sometimes.
00:36:36
Hannah
Yeah.
00:36:37
Nicole and Josh
But hormonal, you know, just not making good decisions sometimes.
00:36:37
Hannah
no
00:36:37
Danny Price
Oh, yeah.
00:36:43
Nicole and Josh
I mean, i can't let them just go buck wild on social media. Who knows what we're posting.
00:36:48
Danny Price
Or what they're going to see, not just even post, but like the things that people are posting.
00:36:49
Hannah
the
00:36:51
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:36:51
Hannah
yeah
00:36:51
Nicole and Josh
Oh, yeah.
00:36:53
Danny Price
um That's really cool. I love that you guys do video games and a lot of that stuff and like the computers and the family space. So it's not like...
00:37:00
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:37:02
Hannah
and
00:37:02
Danny Price
you're sneaking off to your room to go, even if like, let's just say they were doing nothing necessarily inappropriate.
00:37:07
Danny Price
It's just that habit of, as you get into your adult years, I think that that can continue of like the way that you do social media or screens or whatever is like a solo, like by yourself thing.
00:37:12
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:37:18
Danny Price
It really isolates you. And I think, having those experiences where like, yeah, video games are not the prime evil, but doing those in a in a situation where it's like, but I'm with people and we're doing this together and other people can see what I'm doing or, you know, be on your computer. I think that helps promote a lot of health as you get down the road.
00:37:35
Danny Price
You know your your experience with it is not a solo isolated, this is just a me and the internet thing. And honest honestly, too, like people can call you out of it. of like, dude, you've been on that for an hour. what are you doing? It's like time to get off. Like when you're by yourself, you don't have any of that. so
00:37:50
Hannah
but I thought it was
00:37:50
Nicole and Josh
Yeah, and what do they say?
00:37:50
Danny Price
Anyways.
00:37:51
Nicole and Josh
The Idle Hands are the devil's playground.
00:37:54
Danny Price
Oh, totally, totally.
00:37:54
Nicole and Josh
Yeah. So, yeah.
00:37:55
Hannah
was... That's a good...
00:37:58
Nicole and Josh
So just make it
00:37:58
Hannah
Well, I thought it was good what you guys said too about like, well, you don't have to have a car. You don't have to have fun. Like I think so many people nowadays with teenagers feel like their teenagers are entitled to things that it's like, you're their parent. Like they're not entitled. Like it's like, that's like, they just don't feel like they don't see it as like, this is a privilege and it can be taken away. And that privilege is there because I trust you. And, and I think there's just,
00:38:23
Hannah
I don't know, I'm always surprised when I hear older parents feel like their hands are tied, like they can't take away those things. And I'm like, what?
00:38:31
Nicole and Josh
No, I mean, like said as you get older, you got to figure out what works.
00:38:31
Hannah
Like, you're their authority.
00:38:31
Danny Price
yeah. yeah.
00:38:35
Nicole and Josh
And and they, you know, I've i've told my 16 year old plenty of times.
00:38:36
Hannah
Yeah.
00:38:38
Nicole and Josh
I said, if if you're not, if you're somewhere you're not supposed to be, if if you're not keeping us informed of where you're going, then as quickly as you got that car is as quickly as you can walk or you can wait for mom when she's ready.
00:38:51
Nicole and Josh
So it doesn't really, it doesn't bother us any.
00:38:54
Danny Price
yeah
00:38:57
Nicole and Josh
hmm.
00:38:57
Danny Price
No, that's that's good.
00:38:57
Hannah
Yeah.
00:38:58
Danny Price
yeah And if you're listening and you're like, I could never do that, i would I wouldn't necessarily say you need to become completely like strict on things. that Let's say you're completely lax right now. Start small and finding boundaries that are small and work your way up. you don't have to I think a lot of times we want to make these like sweeping declarations of no one will touch the internet ever again in my house, you know, cause you get, you're, you're fed up with it.
00:39:20
Nicole and Josh
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:39:22
Danny Price
It's like, why don't you start at ah at a manageable, like, Hey, you know what? Let's charge our phones in mom and dad's bedroom tonight, you know? And then let's keep that going for a while. And then let's, you know, so introduce things slowly.
00:39:30
Hannah
Thank you.
00:39:31
Danny Price
Um, And also I think what's cool for you guys, for Josh and Nicole, is that you guys have been doing this for a while, it sounds like. This isn't something that you just decided. So all your kids, there's all this consistency built up where they're like, they expect it, they know it. It's not like, wait, huh? Like, I don't get this. Like, why are you doing this? Like, you guys have taken the time to build these habits over the course of time.
00:39:51
Danny Price
And it's obviously shown its fruit. So if you're listening, it takes time to build that consistency with your kids. You can't just parent with that iron fist. I mean, you can, but it's going to be, there's going to be a lot of tension.
00:40:04
Danny Price
So just be, just being careful of how you and institute some of these things. Just because we're all talking about this kind of stuff doesn't mean it's necessarily a prescription that everyone has to do it. And I'm sure Joshua Coleman would say that, but just encouraging you guys don't, don't do nothing.
00:40:14
Nicole and Josh
hmm
00:40:18
Danny Price
Don't just be like, yeah, kids take whatever.
00:40:19
Hannah
yeah
00:40:21
Danny Price
I think we talked about this in a previous episode, but there is just so much, that you can just destroy you online as a kid, just your brain with all these things. I mean, it's, it's sickening just the amount of studies that have come up being coming out now that social media has been around for a while, like what it does to you, the algorithms that, you know, all this stuff, it's, it's not good for you.
00:40:38
Danny Price
So take some time and learn about that. Um, I should, I should be doing this. I never do this in these podcasts, but I should be linking all these studies. I could look this up ahead of time, but I don't cause I'm lazy. I'm sorry.
00:40:49
Nicole and Josh
Just like one example, like when they were a little bit little, littler, had to take away, they couldn't watch kids YouTube anymore. And it wasn't even that they were seeing anything.
00:40:59
Nicole and Josh
It was that the the videos, they were like, the people had such bad attitudes and they were starting to have bad attitudes.
00:41:05
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:41:06
Nicole and Josh
And I was like, this little family may be cute and they're innocent and watching it, but they're they're rubbing off on you in a way that's not...
00:41:12
Danny Price
and
00:41:14
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:41:16
Nicole and Josh
you know, good for you.
00:41:16
Danny Price
Interesting. Yeah.
00:41:17
Nicole and Josh
So it's like little things like that.
00:41:17
Hannah
Yeah.
00:41:18
Nicole and Josh
And it's just all kinds of things.
00:41:21
Hannah
No, I'm shocked. Like watching stuff with Sam, i'm I'm probably a little too picky. I'm crazy picky about what I would let him watch. But I mean, because even things that aren't about influence that are overstimulating can have its own issues too. Like, you know, you're getting them addicted to just like fast paced.
00:41:37
Hannah
interests like color all the things changing all the time like just how we kind of need that entertainment all the time but also I thought that like Sam's so young that he doesn't follow plot like we get like he doesn't really like get the conclusion in the end so even like there's a really I actually would totally let him watch it later because when he can fill a plot it's a great show it's on right now media and it's like a Christian family and normally the kids have some like kind of bad behavior and in the end the dad like they there's a good resolution and dad reads a bible story and it's like it's a cool little show but I'm like he doesn't get the end at all and honestly sometimes his attention spans over by the end like he's not even watching it anymore so he just sees like the bad behavior so like this could be great when you're older and we could talk about that or something but like right now all you would see is just like don't know like they lied they didn't share like whatever it is And so I try to be so picky about Woody Watches because, yeah, they'll just emulate so much of it or their attention span shorts out if they want the fast pace.
00:41:50
Nicole and Josh
Thank you.
00:42:15
Nicole and Josh
sleep
00:42:16
Danny Price
He just sees the bad stuff.
00:42:17
Nicole and Josh
exactly Oh, yeah.
00:42:39
Hannah
And so I'm so picky.
00:42:42
Nicole and Josh
oh
00:42:43
Danny Price
Awesome. um We're starting to go a little long.
00:42:44
Hannah
It's crazy.
00:42:46
Danny Price
So just want to wrap up with two last questions. What has been, and I guess ifs this is two in one, what has been the hardest part of parenting in that like younger kid, that toddler baby phase when, you know, it's diapers and everything. What was the hardest part about that? And then what's been the hardest challenge or most difficult part about the teenage years as you guys are kind of getting to that phase? This is for Josh Nicole.
00:43:07
Nicole and Josh
um The baby part and the toddler part, it really is just that the amount of physical labor it is. And like, it's tremendously exhausting.
00:43:19
Nicole and Josh
I remember like Josh was a police officer. So he worked 12 hour shifts and I had four, six and under.
00:43:25
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:43:27
Nicole and Josh
You're just exhausted. i remember like he comes home and I'd go take a shower and I'd be like crying in the shower. and all I could hear was the verse, like the verse, my grace is sufficient for you.
00:43:37
Nicole and Josh
just to like get through the next day.
00:43:38
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:43:38
Hannah
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:43:41
Nicole and Josh
so
00:43:42
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:43:42
Nicole and Josh
you do eventually sleep again. They don't need you in the middle of the night forever. so
00:43:48
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:43:50
Nicole and Josh
And in that younger part of the parenting, that you know, toddlers and babies, I will say, as far as being a dad, they're a whole lot less like I was there just to play with. them i I mean, mom was much more important than than a role than I played because she was with them all day long.
00:44:00
Danny Price
no
00:44:01
Hannah
hello any
00:44:07
Nicole and Josh
So when I came home, I mean, I got to to take away some of the stress that she was dealing with and she could she could kind of disconnect a little bit. But I just really became more of the, the fun playmate type thing, but yes, I like that one.
00:44:20
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:44:20
Hannah
I
00:44:22
Danny Price
That's a good role. That's a fun role to be as a dad. said Yeah, that's so fun.
00:44:24
Hannah
yeah like it.
00:44:26
Nicole and Josh
I'd say for, for teenagers though, I mean, think as much as you could try to control the things that they see, the things that they do, the the way that they act.
00:44:38
Nicole and Josh
they see I think the big part of that is learning, at least we've been learning is to let them make mistakes, and to let them understand what happens when they make the mistakes, because my oldest being 16, he's only got two more years until he's 18.
00:44:45
Danny Price
Hmm. Hmm.
00:44:45
Hannah
Hmm.
00:44:56
Nicole and Josh
you know, he doesn't have that far off before it's like, hey, your decisions have bigger consequences than than what you think. And, and trying to, you know, not only connect with them, but also let them know, like, yeah, mom and I are are old.
00:45:14
Nicole and Josh
But we're not that old. Like we remember being 16 and 14 and stuff like that. And so we we don't, we tried very hard, especially as they get
00:45:20
Danny Price
Yeah.
00:45:26
Nicole and Josh
older and to be teenagers, tried very hard to not use the because I said so. Because so many times because I said so doesn't really tell them anything other than well, mom and dad said no, yeah and I don't really understand why.
00:45:33
Hannah
Hmm.
00:45:41
Nicole and Josh
So we tried to give a little bit of context behind. Look, we're not trying to tell you not to have fun.
00:45:44
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:45:46
Nicole and Josh
We're not trying to tell you this, we're trying to tell you this to protect you from here's what potentially could happen. And between Nicole and I, we probably can be a little overprotective sometimes.
00:45:58
Nicole and Josh
You see things in life and you experience things, you know, in your, in life. And so, you know, you get a little overprotective and you want to protect it from those things. But at least that's been our biggest lesson now with teenagers is just let them make decisions, let them learn some, some lessons and let them understand that mom and dad kind of, you know,
00:46:23
Nicole and Josh
are here to to help them. you know, I'm not going to fix it for you, but I'll tell you, I'll give you some advice on what I think, you know,
00:46:29
Danny Price
That's huge. that's a really good That's a really good clarification on that. um I love that, about letting them make mistakes and learning. that's That's really cool. And yeah, you're right about the toddler years, you guys, with the sleeplessness and the physical labor. and that um Hannah's doing that a lot more than I am, but it's a lot. And we only have two, so we have we'll see where things go. if you know we We're having one more, and so we'll see where we'll see where it goes after that. But I'm sure it gets it gets hard.
00:46:59
Danny Price
Last question. And Hannah, if you wanted to jump in on this one too, I'm sure you could. But Josh and Nicole first, if you could encourage a Christian parent who just feels like they're failing, what would you say to them?
00:47:13
Nicole and Josh
I feel like if you are that worried and you feel like you're failing, then you're probably doing a good job because you care.
00:47:21
Danny Price
Hmm.
00:47:22
Nicole and Josh
You actually are caring about your children and i just keep going, keep praying, keep, keep parenting.
00:47:23
Hannah
Good advice.
00:47:33
Nicole and Josh
Don't give up that there is fruit and hopefully in the end. Well, and like I said earlier, I mean, I don't want you to think that we're here because we have all the answers and things are perfect.
00:47:45
Nicole and Josh
And, and you know, we've, it's taken a long time to figure out what works. for our kids. And so I would encourage if you're feeling, um you know, like you're failing that just just keep being there and keep being present and and keep showing that love of Christ and that it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but eventually your kids are going reach an age when they're going to realize that you are there for them and that then they want to seek your advice and they want to seek, you know, your wisdom and everything like that.
00:48:21
Nicole and Josh
And and it's hard. It's, it's parenting is not for the weak hearted. It's not for the, for the one that just like, I just can't do it.
00:48:28
Hannah
Mm-hmm.
00:48:31
Nicole and Josh
I'm too tired. Well, I think we live in a, in a constant state of tiredness. So keep it up and yeah keep it up and don't,
00:48:39
Danny Price
Amen. That's a good word.
00:48:41
Hannah
ah
00:48:44
Nicole and Josh
Don't give up. And, and, and also, I'd say, find some other family, some other parents, some other, you know, you you need people that can help and give you advice and, and, you know, are there with you and can walk that journey with you.
00:49:02
Nicole and Josh
Don't don't try to do it all by yourself.
00:49:02
Hannah
Yeah.
00:49:05
Danny Price
It's good advice. Babe, anything to close out as we're getting to the end?
00:49:10
Hannah
Yeah, I mean, obviously, we're not, we're pretty young parents right now. But I think especially if you're starting out and in, I mean, I'm not, yeah, I'm such an overthinker. I'm the person who thinks I'm feeling like when they're six months old, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I don't know, probably already messed them up. So I'm just a big overthinker. But um I think it was really encouraging.
00:49:33
Hannah
i just would encourage people like the Bible has so many more answers than we realize. I think we go to a lot of other places to look for parenting advice. And, there is so much more scripture, I think, than people realize about parenting. And it was really helpful for me to just start looking up, like, just Google, like, give me all the verses about parenting in the Bible. And, you know, and I just started writing them down. And I think just that's the best place to get direction, obviously. and um,
00:50:05
Hannah
Yeah, I think we're out there kind of all like, obviously there's a level like we're all just kind of still when it comes to the application of it, sometimes you're winging it a little bit. but um But there is there is structure and there is sound wisdom, obviously, and a lot outlined in the Bible if we look there.
00:50:25
Hannah
So that would be my biggest encouragement is that there's more than we think in Scripture.
00:50:28
Danny Price
Yeah,
00:50:31
Hannah
Yeah.
00:50:32
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:50:32
Danny Price
yeah that's a good word. Yeah, and
00:50:34
Hannah
I was genuinely surprised by it too. I was like, wow where these verses been? I never saw these before. Cause like, especially until you have kids, you don't really pay attention to that a lot. So I feel like go look at it again if you just became a parent.
00:50:48
Danny Price
yeah that's a good word. And I like what you said. There's just so many different avenues to get information. means just limiting your social media. When you're a new mom, the amount of you know perfect moms that you see on social media or as a dad, same thing.
00:51:03
Hannah
Hmm.
00:51:04
Danny Price
It's like, oh my gosh, like that's not a representation of reality. And don't be beating yourself up over something that's not attainable.
00:51:08
Hannah
I
00:51:12
Nicole and Josh
Yeah.
00:51:12
Danny Price
or you know Or is it only attainable if you have a nanny, a full-time nanny, a full-time housekeeper, a full-time you know ah you know cook, all that stuff. like don't Don't hold yourself up to that standard.
00:51:20
Hannah
ha and don't know.
00:51:23
Danny Price
um That's just not that's not good.
00:51:23
Nicole and Josh
You
00:51:25
Danny Price
Awesome. Well, that's all that I had guys. Thanks for being on and doing this. This was really fun. Just so you guys, everyone listening knows this is last minute.
00:51:30
Nicole and Josh
want them?
00:51:32
Danny Price
I asked them like literally yesterday. i didn't know what to do this. So I appreciate you guys being good sports and coming on and doing this. I was like, who's, who who do we know that are good parents that have like teenagers?
00:51:43
Danny Price
Like, Oh, Josh and Nicole. Perfect.
00:51:45
Hannah
ah
00:51:46
Nicole and Josh
I appreciate that. Thank thank you for thinking of us, definitely.
00:51:50
Danny Price
No, this was so great. um Yeah. So yeah, We'll be back in normal episodes next week for those of listening. you know Hopefully, you know God willing that Shane comes out of this, whatever he's experiencing.
00:52:02
Danny Price
um And by the way, just a heads up, if you guys are listening and going to Mountain View, we're going to three services. This next Sunday is our first Sunday with three services.
00:52:08
Hannah
The sun is.
00:52:11
Danny Price
So it's going to be a stretch, I think, for volunteers and stuff. But I'm excited where that's God's taken the church. So really exciting. um We're already way too long. We always go too long on this podcast.
00:52:22
Danny Price
It's just something to talk about.
00:52:22
Hannah
Yeah, if you feel like you need to give up on what your original time frame was planning.
00:52:23
Danny Price
so
00:52:25
Danny Price
I know. no i Originally, I was like 20 to 30 minutes. And now that's, yeah.
00:52:29
Hannah
Which is wild that you thought that.
00:52:30
Nicole and Josh
you
00:52:31
Danny Price
Well, that was like way back when.
00:52:31
Nicole and Josh
Okay.
00:52:32
Danny Price
That was when we first started. I was like, we can probably be 20 30 minutes.
00:52:35
Hannah
of Which I don't want to make it too much longer, but I'm like, I didn't know if you wanted to mention resources. That was something you had originally thought about.
00:52:42
Danny Price
um
00:52:42
Hannah
I don't know.
00:52:43
Danny Price
I might have you type up a list for me and just put it in the description so we don't have to go through with that with everyone right now.
00:52:46
Hannah
Just link some. There you go.
00:52:49
Danny Price
But yeah, so what I'll do is I'll have Hannah send me and then Josh and Nicole, maybe if you guys have some good parenting resources in terms of like books or something, if you guys just want to shoot me a text or shoot Hannah text, I'll put those down in the description of the podcast so parents can check those out.
00:52:50
Hannah
Yeah, good plan.
00:53:01
Hannah
you
00:53:02
Danny Price
But I feel like it'll just take too much time to walk through each one of those. So anyways, appreciate everyone listening.
00:53:05
Hannah
go.
00:53:07
Nicole and Josh
Cool.
00:53:07
Danny Price
Thank you guys so much. Thanks, Josh and Nicole. Thanks, Hannah. We'll see you guys next week. Bye-bye.
00:53:12
Nicole and Josh
Bye. See