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Common Christian Word Definitions *with David Finley* Episode 33

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In this episode Danny, Shane, and David define words that are commonly used in Christianity but are confusing or difficult to explain. Our goal is to make harder theological topics more accessible to everyone with this episode!

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Introduction of Hosts and Podcast

00:00:00
Danny Price
Hey everyone, welcome back to episode 33 of the of Talk Discussions podcast. I'm Danny Price. I am here on Sunday. um We're doing a little bit of a different episode. We have a special one-off episode that's not about the sermon. I also have Shane Finley with me and then I have David Finley. Shane, so David, do you want to give a quick introduction to yourself?
00:00:20
Danny Price
All the interesting things about you? Yeah. So David Finley, like you just mentioned, with the alias of Shane's son, it's my most notable claim to fame. um No, so I'm also the men's ministry director here at MBF Church. And our mission statement, our passion is helping to build a culture of men seeking true Christ-like masculinity. So, you know, what that really means and comes down to is that That word masculinity has a lot of different connotations and connotations with society now, some good, some bad. But we really want to men of MBF and of the Valley to be focused in on what it means to be a Christlike man, being both strong and courageous and bold, and then also tender, loving, and kind.

David's Personal Journey and Mission

00:01:07
Danny Price
Sounds was good.
00:01:08
Danny Price
How old are you? Yeah, what about you? So me, yeah, okay. So David's like, let me tell you about my passion. This is a chance to fuck my ministry. I love men.
00:01:20
Danny Price
All right. Well, I'm 30 and see my background. I was raised, you know, growing up in MBF Church. Obviously, we moved out to Utah when I was 11. Went to high school at Wasatch.
00:01:35
Danny Price
So go Wasps. I joined the military right out of high school as a rescue swimmer in the U.S. Navy for six years. We got out in 2019 with a goal and input passion of coming back here I am a financial advisor. That's my day job. And I work with JPMorgan Chase and and love helping people kind of build goals and go through their plans and achieve their financial goals. yeah And then in there, he got married and had three

Understanding 'Christianese' and Misconceptions

00:02:02
Danny Price
kids too. That too. There's a lot to me. He's like a minion. He falls like layers. Yes, I got married at 19 at high school. So I don't know if you shared that you were also married at 19. I don't think I have on here. Okay, so fourth generation in this family of being married at 19, which is pretty cool.
00:02:21
Danny Price
It's crazy. um Yeah, love that. um We're going to kick off this podcast. So um I'm going to just set this up so you guys understand what we're doing. So we're doing definitions for words that are what I would call Christianese words. So Christianese is like a Basically, it's just like slain yeah it's like slang for these are words that we use in church and we kind of throw them around. and Some people might know what they are. Other people don't. And sometimes it's a little bit too lofty and heady. And unfortunately, some of the means get missed by people that don't study this kind of stuff. So we thought, hey, we should just lay all these definitions out and make it accessible for people who hear these words, whether it's on podcasts or YouTube videos or sermons or whatever.
00:03:05
Danny Price
And when you hear it, you don't go, hey, what is that? Or like you're confused, you hear it and you go, oh, that makes sense. And hopefully this podcast helps with that. So we picked about 25 or so words that we're going through. But first, I got on a sidetrack when I was making these definitions and I found what is this? Seven different phrases that are not in the Bible, but people think that they are. no You guys want to hear this? Yeah, let's go.
00:03:27
Danny Price
The first one is, God will not give you more than you can handle. Have you guys heard that? Yep, I've heard it, and there's no I've never found it. Yeah, so just in case you're wondering, that is not in the Bible. That not a verse. God will definitely give you more than you can handle. Life will give you way more than you can handle, and you can handle it with God.
00:03:43
Danny Price
But there' are so niy if you look at the Bible, the bible there are so many stories of people that can't handle things and they crush under the pressure and sometimes they they rise above but again because of god and what he does in their life god often is using people that cannot do it on their own comment that at all uh no just that that what you said that you're you the life of faith is really about life is more than you can handle and you turn it over to him and and trust him yeah right next one god helps those who help themselves
00:04:17
Danny Price
Also, it sounds like these all sound so wise, but that's not in the Bible at all. It does talk about like Proverbs and places like being industrious and like working hard, but it doesn't necessarily say that God will help those who help themselves and do it for themselves. Yeah. And I guess the the closest I would get to that, that I would say we would agree with biblically is God does the work, but we have to participate with him, you know? And yeah, but it's not, he's waiting. God's going to do what God's going to do regardless of what you do.
00:04:48
Danny Price
Well, I think all of these

Defining Theological Terms

00:04:49
Danny Price
have you know sections or verses that you can take. yeah yeah and right The parable of the talents, right where the one who had many more was given yeah because he handled it well. But that doesn't necessarily mean that's always the case. That's true.
00:05:03
Danny Price
All right, next one. Is is cleanliness is next to godliness? Yeah, that's on That's now last number six, but we'll just jump there. Cleanliness is next to godliness. It seems like, let's not be clean. This one was just for moms their kids to take a bath. Yeah, that's definitely a mom one. I have no idea. i didn't look up the origins of some of these. I just looked up what people thought was like in the Bible and it's not. And this, this John the Baptist was so dirty. Well, this doesn't even have a Bible. like a lot of these have like biblical like roots. This does not have a biblical root. like There is nowhere that it talks about cleanliness other than like...
00:05:33
Danny Price
who is it, like Naaman has to go wash the river. There's certain people have to go... Jewish tradition, though, would have had a lot more around cleanliness than a lot of the outside culture. That's a good point. I love you said, though. Like, John... Jesus literally calls him the, like, what? The man of greatest... How does he refer to John? There's no one more righteous than him. And yet, he was filthy. He lived out in the desert. I mean, he baptize a lot, and you imagine that he probably got clean while he was in the water, but he was cleaned by...
00:06:03
Danny Price
i definitely think a um ah I definitely think a mom started that. All right. All good things come to those who wait. Again, patience is important, but that's not in the Bible at all. That's more of a fortune cookie one, though, isn't it? i'm you like Again, some of these fortune cookie ones are like, yeah yeah, we should start a Christian fortune cookie company. They already exist. Yeah, you can use them for camp. But unfortunately, it's always like the same like three verses and They need to branch out. It's like always Jeremiah 29 and 11. Take it out of context. Yeah. The lion shall lie down with the lamb.
00:06:33
Danny Price
That is not in the Bible. What it says is, in Isaiah 11, 6, it says, the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the goat, and the calf with the lion, and the fattened calf together, and a little child shall lead them.
00:06:44
Danny Price
But nowhere does it say the lion shall lie down with the lamb. Wow, that actually, that one kind of... I just... yeah know I know. I did too. I was like, what? I think it's because Jesus is referred to both. you know And so people just put the odds. Yeah. Yeah. So that one threw me.
00:07:00
Danny Price
um Forgive and forget. The Bible does not say forgive and forget. Nope. It says that God separates our sins and forgets our sins as far as East is from the West, but it never says. I actually think that one's kind of dumb because you can't make yourself forget stuff. No. That's that's a โ€“ God can do it, but you can't.
00:07:18
Danny Price
Yeah, and I think true forgiveness is not forgetting because I think that would kind of diminish the bre like no authenticity of it. That's good point. Yeah, and then claim this next to godliness. And then the last one, God works in mysterious ways. That is not a Bible verse. There's truth to it. yeah yeah there's There's a lot of truth to The ways of God are a mystery to man and things like that, but that's not.
00:07:39
Danny Price
No, yeah. yeah Well, think it's a great tie-in to a lot of these words because sometimes here are these words thrown out because they're not found in the Bible. Yes. And, ah you know, when you use these these words are meant to describe biblical principles, but they're not necessarily, um you know, words that Christ said or that are or written down. in yeahp exactly.
00:07:59
Danny Price
So without further ado, we're going jump into these words. um The first few words that we have all are the ology words. They end with ology. David, do you want to, because you had the first word, do you want to just give a little explanation of what ology means and why we have so many of those words?
00:08:14
Danny Price
Yeah, I can do that. One thing I thought would be good to also just address, though, is that, you know, there is not a outside of UDAD, there's not any biblical college training that you or I have, Danny. you And so I think it's important to note that just because a lot of these words or these topics seem daunting or overwhelming. There are a lot of wonderful resources out there. And I think it's important to continue to to develop and study and grow in our faith. You know, we have these tools, we have these teachers that we can look to. And I think we should take advantage of that. Because there are many Christians throughout history, who did not um have access to that. Yeah, no, it's true.
00:08:56
Danny Price
Some people just don't turn their phone off when they're doing podcasts. Yeah. read So yeah, ology. Yeah. Ology means study of. And so each one of these will have be the study of something or other. The first word is theology, which is pretty simply just the study of God.
00:09:15
Danny Price
Yep. And so theology is something we all innately do. whether you are intentional about it or not, and whether you're a good theologian or bad theologian, you are a theologian. And so i think that's something you should be cognizant of is your study and your understanding of who God is, you are constantly developing, whether through a worldview or through a biblical lens. and And that's something to be just kind of constantly intentional about what theology you're developing both for yourself, but also as a leader of your family, you know, husbands and fathers and mothers, you know, that are listening to this, be very, very clear about what theology your kids are developing.
00:09:54
Danny Price
Yeah, that's a good point. So what I'll do, just to give you guys a little bit of heads up, I'm just going to read off each word, not right now, but at the beginning. And then each of us, i don't know if that was clear at beginning, each of us took some time to kind of delve into these words and have like a really quick definition. So it's going to come at you pretty rapid fire. I'll try to see if I can get like chat GPT or someone to put timestamps so you can go back and look, because I guarantee you're go to know some of these words, but then the few that you don't know, I want you to be able to go back and be able to go, what was that again? And then be able to find it.
00:10:22
Danny Price
So, the next word is doxology and Shane has that one. What is doxology? um Well, so first of all, notice all these words end with ology. So like David said, they're all going to mean they come they come from logos, which is basically literally translated word, but then it's the word on that topic. So it's the study of, or you know whatever, however you want to say. But doxology, the dox part means glory. So it's basically words of glory to God. So it's it's praise to God.
00:10:56
Danny Price
That's what it means. Normally when people are going to hear it at church, they're actually going to hear it as something that maybe is given at church, especially like if you grew up in a pretty traditional church, they probably had a doxology that they usually close a service with. A lot of people would know the most famous one is praise God from whom all blessings flow, praise him all creatures here below. Praise him ye above ye heavenly hosts. Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Amen. yeah So that's what a lot of people think of they think of doxology. But the word actually means to a word of praise to God. And so it can be, there's lots of doxology passages throughout the throughout the Bible. So you'd also hear it now. Yeah.
00:11:37
Danny Price
Oh, that was perfect. I've heard it said that good theology leads to good doxology. Oh, that's great way. if you have good theology of God, like you understand God, then it leads you to praise him. Yep. Well, and that's real quick. We'll go on to Christology next. So we'll go on to Christology in just a minute. But as we're doing that, another thing want to say about all these is we all are all these things. Everyone listening to this is theologian. Everyone has a Christology. We all have a... I always pronounce the word soteriology. Soteriology. But we all have those things. We either just...
00:12:14
Danny Price
we we We're either strong in them or we're weak in them. And correct so a lot of it, and that's one thing i like about like what David said about you guys, you guys don't have some Bible degrees, but you you have a desire to grow in them, even to a point where it kind of humbles me sometimes because I'm like, wow, they really dig into this stuff.

Exploring Key Christian Concepts

00:12:31
Danny Price
So anyway, good point. No, that's really good. It's all on the internet now. The internet is so valuable.
00:12:35
Danny Price
Thank God for the the blessings of the internet, not the other things so much. And everything you read there, is true so yeah dig Dig a little bit. Christology, Shane.
00:12:46
Danny Price
Or Christology, I don't know. yeah um Christology is basically all things Jesus. It's a study of everything Jesus. Who he is, his character, his life, his glory. And the biggest element of Christology that most people going to dig into is the incarnation, which we're going to talk about a little bit at the end. um But um what people believe about the incarnation really is what kind of separates traditional Christianity. One of the key things that separates traditional Christianity from a lot of groups and ideas and ideologies that we would call heresy. Interesting. Okay. The next one, which is mine, is ecclesiology. So ecclesiology comes from ecclesia, which is...
00:13:29
Danny Price
goes all the way back to gathering or assembly. And sometimes it also goes back to the word, the actual word, word. So it kind of goes back to the study and of the assembly and the gathering of the church um really is what it comes down to. So when you study ecclesiology,
00:13:44
Danny Price
A lot of the thoughts that are going to come into your head are, first of all, what is the church? What is the purpose of the church? Why is Christian baptism in the church important? What does the Lord suffer? What does the Bible say about church government? Those are all questions that come from the study of ecclesology eccla ecclesiology. I want make sure i'm saying that right.
00:14:02
Danny Price
um And then let's see here. Make sure have nothing else on that. That was it. ahead. Well, real quick on that, i was just going to say, think a lot of that, unfortunately, in today's world, people don't have much of an a good ecclesiology. They just have what they prefer. That's true. And so a lot of so many people, when they think of the church, it's like, well, i like this or I don't like that. And yeah And they don't really get like, well, but there there actually is, there are things that church is called to be. There are things that church is called to do. And it it really shouldn't be a matter of preference as much as is the church practicing what we're called to practice as Christ followers. Yeah, that's great.
00:14:39
Danny Price
Part of ecclesiology too, I think there is like the study of... what the church is and should and shouldn't be, but then also like the historical church. Like what has, like through all all of history, what has the church done in all these different questions that I just mentioned before and how is the church operated?
00:14:55
Danny Price
Let's see here. do i Do I have time to real quick hit a practical thing on that? So as at MBF, what for like two years, we've had communion out every week and we've mentioned if people want to take communion. Well, if you've noticed, we don't anymore. We have it out the one, one time a month that we take it as a church. okay And i didn't notice that yeah, and that was a ecclesiological reason behind it in that what the more I've learned and studied more about communion, i was kind of reminded that communion is meant to be, isn't meant to be something. It's just like some little thing I do between me and God. It's meant to be something as the body we do together to celebrate our union in Christ and through what he's done for us. Interesting. So, so that was an actual ecclesiological reason that we changed that as a church. Interesting. Okay. That's yeah. I did not notice that. Did you notice that David?
00:15:53
Danny Price
I did. That you took it out. We probably talked about it. Okay. The next definition word that we have is again, for me, it's soteriology. So soteriology again is the study of salvation. So soteria comes from the Greek word meaning salvation, deliverance, preservation, or safety.
00:16:10
Danny Price
Um, When you study soteriology, the questions that you're asking are things like, how do you become saved? Is it once saved, always saved? Is salvation by faith alone or faith plus works? Or why is repentance needed for salvation?
00:16:22
Danny Price
Soteriology, when you develop one, it usually exists kind of in a framework. And there's lots of different popular soteriology. So a very popular common one that you're going to hear about is Calvinism. We mentioned that here on the podcast before. And Arminianism, another one.
00:16:35
Danny Price
um And then universalism is actually soteriology. So universalism is the belief that kind of all roads lead to Jesus. don't really have to just believe in Jesus. Kind of all leads up to him. Everything is very universal. God's going save everybody no matter what. That's ah that's a type of soteriology.
00:16:50
Danny Price
um really quick just to dive into just in case you guys are confused because i just mentioned some of those terms so again calvinism is an emphasis on unconditional election limited atonement irresistible grace and total depravity which is summarized by tulip and arminianism is a prop is a proposes excuse me it proposes that salvation is conditional upon faith advocating for resistible grace and the possibility of losing your salvation we talked about that a little bit last week but just so in case i lost you guys there um do you guys want to add anything on soteriology or about like those systems My only thing is it's usually the one that causes, get a lot of debate on. Oh, totally. Yep.
00:17:26
Danny Price
Yep. That and eschatology are usually the two. Yep. Well, and they're pretty related too, right? obviously Yeah. the believe more of a Calvinistic view versus an Arminian view that's going to change your eschatology. I mean, everything in here is going to be extremely overlapping and yeah heavily correlated and related with one another.
00:17:45
Danny Price
um Exactly. Ultimately, you can just now use fancier words to impress your friends. Yes. But if you're reading or people say, oh, my soteriology is, then you can go, okay, they're talking about the process by which you are saved in their framework for that. Not their horoscope. Not their horoscope. No.
00:18:00
Danny Price
It is not like Pisces or something else. All right. but Next is David with ontology. Ontology would be the study of what is real or the essence or nature of something. So ontology of God would be who who God is in the study of who God is. Ontology of sin or ontology of man. There's a different individual ontology for pretty much every major topic would in the Bible.
00:18:25
Danny Price
So it's it's a very, it's a singular singular term in the sense that you you're studying one thing and the the nature of it, but it's also a kind of all-encompassing term in the sense that there is an ontology for for every topic. Yeah.
00:18:41
Danny Price
Can I be honest? I had to look that up. I was like, i I know I've heard the word, but I cannot remember the slightest clue of what this is. I'm hearing it a lot more in certain debates about, for example, with Latter-day Saints about the ontology of man, the ontology of God. Like, what stuff is God made out of it versus...
00:18:59
Danny Price
Is it the same as the stuff as we're or is it different? So what you'll hear a lot of times, like, we have the same ontology as God, or we have different ontology as God, or God is ontologically different from us. You'll hear words like that. That's why it was, like, in my mind, I'm like, kind of we should throw that in there.
00:19:13
Danny Price
And when I had do the research for this to figure out how to define the term, made me dig little bit more because I've heard it in the sense of the ontology of God. And when you're listening to a sentence or a podcast on it, you can kind of get to it. You can kind of put together, yeah. Oh, this is the essence of God or who God Essence. Yeah, the essence.
00:19:35
Danny Price
It's what LaCroix are made of. Essence of life. and But no, so it's the study of what is real. That was good. All right, Shane, anthropology. i knew you'd like that. Shane Long's idea of anthrop anthropology. And a lot of it is just because i I took a lot of anthropology courses in college. and But the anthropology is just the study of who we are as humans, both physically and culturally. um But when you study anthropology, you you study everything from world religions to the studies of the origins of humanity. So I liked it in college because it was right at the beginning of
00:20:13
Danny Price
I literally gave my life to Christ while i was in these courses. and then And then was like, and a lot of it was through those things because you compare world religions and all that these cultures. So whenever you hear anthropology, it's basically the study of everything about humanity, both physical and culturally, not necessarily like psychologically or any of that, but but how we interact is in as cultures. and um But I think it's important because how... you um How we see our origins are going to define how we see our purpose and who we are as humans. yeah um so And then then also an interesting note is that a lot, and physical anthropology, a lot of and anthropology anthropological digs that are not even... um
00:21:01
Danny Price
done by Christians yeah have proven a lot of historic biblical um yeah places and cultures and evidence. So they've actually learned, have a lot of biblical evidence due to the advancement of physical anthropology. yeahp That's, that's really cool.
00:21:16
Danny Price
I love that the Bible ends up with stuff like that. Yes. That's really cool. All right. The big one, es eschatology, David. Yeah, and you guys have actually talked about this a couple times, I think, on the podcast already. Yeah. um But it's the study of end times or last things, i often confused with the book of Revelation. It's not just the book of Revelation, but it's the study of you know the entire end times, from Daniel and and Isaiah being other big books. um Kind of comes down to three main camps, post-millennial... Post-millennial... Millennialism. Millennialism. Apple doesn't fall far. This is like tongue-tied podcast. this is really It really is. All

Core Beliefs in Christianity

00:22:00
Danny Price
millennialism and pre-millennialism. That's the way to do it.
00:22:06
Danny Price
So post-mill, pre-mill, and a-mill or a-mill. Being, you know, before the time of tribulation, a thousand years after the time of tribulation. So you're pre and post. And then a-mill being more of a symbolic time of tribulation. So that's kind of the quick breakdown. That was perfect.
00:22:27
Danny Price
Yeah, this is where Shane was saying there's so many differences that people have and they take up arms about these specific points of view on eschatology and it can create a lot of division, which is unfortunate cause I think Within eschatology, and Shane, correct if I'm wrong, I think you can hold any three, one of those three views and be a Christian be saved and be born again. It's not like a, you believe this and you're wrong and you're going to go to hell because of that belief. Is that right? Yeah. I mean, there's great theological minds who I study that have all three views and, you know, they're all right line with biblical doctrine. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:04
Danny Price
That's good. um That ends us with the ology words. the next you These next words, again, we don't we don't have any more like themes. or just These are just Christian words that we use in our day-to-day language, or not day-to-day language, and sometimes it gets confusing. So beginning is sanctification, shame.
00:23:19
Danny Price
So sanctification is basically just the ongoing work of God by which believers are made more like Christ. So it it starts at the point of salvation and God doing his ongoing work in our lives with our participation, of course, our seeking to open up to him and the Holy Spirit. um And it's just part of what kind of a three-step process of salvation that a lot of people would refer to of justification, which David will cover in just a second. And then sanctification is kind of the process of our life here on earth yeah to ultimate make glorification with with Christ. Got
00:23:55
Danny Price
So basically growing in Christ. You know, arch at MBF, we would oftentimes just say growing in Christ. yeah you know Is there a point in time when one becomes sanctified? At glorification.
00:24:06
Danny Price
At the end. At the end. That's good. All right. Let's see here. The next one, and david or Shane said it out for David, is justification. Yeah, so justification would be your position before God. And so once you become a believer, you are justified by Jesus, not because of anything that you've done, but that, you know, standing in your place is Christ and your sins are covered at that point. And that's the the process of justification. Similar to imputation, which we'll go through later, but justified justified is that you are your debt has been paid. Your debt has been paid. Yep, yep. That's perfect.
00:24:45
Danny Price
all right, the next word is for me, and it is propitiation. I hate that word. I can't say it It's so funny. so I don't know if you guys see this on Google now. i love that they do this. You look up a word, and it'll tell you like in the historical timeline of when that word is, if it's growing or diminishing in usage. It was like huge in the 1800s. Everybody was saying propitiation, and now it's like,
00:25:04
Danny Price
There's a steep curve and then this kid's coming down. I have to check that out. So propitiation. I think pretty much all three syllable words are declining in our culture. Oh, sure they are. Yeah, they're not sus, you know. They're not skimpy toilet yeet. Yeah.
00:25:21
Danny Price
Bet. Propitiation. The act of gaining or regaining the favor of goodwill of someone or something. The act of propitiating or appeasement.

Conclusion and Future Episodes

00:25:30
Danny Price
The verse that came to mind is Romans 3 to 25, whom God put forward, this is again speaking of Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.
00:25:44
Danny Price
So this is the idea again of it's regaining favor and ah of because of the appeasement of Jesus Christ. And you might be thinking in your head, is that the same thing as atonement, which Shane's going to go over in a little bit, or someone one of you guys is going over in a little bit. And again, just to show the difference. Atonement refers broadly to the making amends for sin and covering it, while propitiation is specific act within atonement that appeases God's wrath, satisfying his justice, so he can extend grace to humanity.
00:26:10
Danny Price
You guys want to talk about that anymore? Yeah, that's tough one. say I'm still a little confused. Yeah, I will say that one. I had to preach on that word. It's appeasement. It's act of of God's wrath being satisfied. that That makes sense. That makes sense.
00:26:24
Danny Price
But my mind is still on our stupid slang words because I was going to say, yeah, propitiation just doesn't have any riz right now. I hate that. I'm sorry. criminalpoliity got him off track. that's that's again you Again, I would ask you guys, if you're listening to this and you're like, I still don't quite get it, hopefully that makes a little bit more sense, but then go Google it and do a little bit word study.
00:26:45
Danny Price
Again, this is more of just like a very overflow, or not overflow, overview of just the basics of the word. So continuing on is Atonement. Atonement, thank you. All right. Well, the word atone literally means to make amends for a wrong or a repair and restore a broken relationship. yeahp So atonement is um what makes a way... it the The atonement of Christ makes a way for a holy God and a sinful people to have their relationship restored. So it's it's through Christ's death on the cross. um He atoned for our sin.
00:27:18
Danny Price
and basically the best way for us to look at that is ever since the original sin, the only way for us to be right before God is through an atoning blood sacrifice. Now, there again, we're not going into this deep enough to get into the whole Testament. how but But you don't have to have much You only have to have a cursory understanding of the Old Testament to know that there were temple sacrifices of um of pure animals and that blood was what paid the price. but But Jesus' death on the cross is the final atonement. So there's no more need for temples, sacrifices, priests, e etc. because of his yeah atonement. Yep, that was perfect. I've heard atonement called atonement.
00:27:57
Danny Price
Like if you break that word down, it's God bringing us atonement. I like that. Because of what he did. um Let's continue on. Sorry, I have keep going back and forth between my pages. um Substitution, it's me. All right.
00:28:09
Danny Price
So substitution, and again, just Webster definition, I'll start there. The action of replacing someone or something with another person or thing. And I'll just continue on with what you were saying about the Old Testament. You see the Israelites, you know, after God establishes the law, they have to provide sacrifices, and these sacrifices are seen as a substitution. So those people don't have to die right there for their sin. They put they put an animal forward.
00:28:32
Danny Price
Mm-hmm. that animal dies in their place. It's a substitution. And what's really cool is you see, as we get through, you know, throughout the Bible, these prophets start talking about the one that will come, that will be the one sacrifice, the one substitution for all. So I sit Isaiah 53, five, it prophesies of Christ.
00:28:48
Danny Price
And it says, he was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought us peace was upon him. And by his wounds, we are healed. And then we talked about this a little bit last week, me and Shane did, but how when John the Baptist is baptizing and Jesus comes, he loudly exclaims, behold, the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.
00:29:06
Danny Price
Kind of just saying like, behold, there is this lamb, there's this substitution for us. And that's, i mean such a beautiful thing that he offers himself for us and it really could only be God, Jesus, that was a substitution for us. We can keep doing these animal sacrifices. It's just never going to be enough. And he was the sacrifice, the substitution.
00:29:23
Danny Price
Yep. So you guys want to add anything to that? No, I thought that was great. Cool. right. Ascension, Shane. um Pretty much that's an easy one. To ascend simply means to go up. I mean, we all use that word. I mean, most people do. um And so when christian when Christians talk about the ascension, they're referring to Christ ascending to heaven. And so if someone ever refers to the ascension, they're talking about Christ going to heaven. And then there that leads to the idea that from the ascension on, we um Christ has been restored to his rightful place and his throne in heaven. and he's reigning overall. So that's that's basically it. Yeah. A lot of these words have very commonplace meanings. Like I think everyone knows what ascension or to ascend means, like listening to this podcast, or you should if you went to grade school.
00:30:12
Danny Price
But sorry, maybe by was insulting. Maybe or middle school. um but But the Christian perspective on that verse or that um that word might be a little different. So a lot of these words, you will know what they mean like in commonplace English, but then Christians mean something by when when they say these. And it's really important. a great point.
00:30:30
Danny Price
That you know what we're talking about. So you'll be like, I know what ascending is. sending is i know what ascension is. It's like, well what does it what does a Christian mean when they say ascension or, sub for example, substitution? what's what's the What's the theology? What's the definition behind that from a biblical standpoint?
00:30:43
Danny Price
Yeah. um next word, regeneration for David. Yeah, and this is definitely one that has like a, you know, worldly connotation as well, right? Regeneration, thinking like almost superpowers, right? Your arm gets cut off and it comes back kind of thing. And it's similar in the sense that regeneration from a biblical discussion would be talking more about how you are dead in your sins and and alive and new in Christ. And so this is talked a lot about in in Ephesians.
00:31:11
Danny Price
And kind was the first thing that came to mind is how we we put to death self and we are born again. And that's the kind of the regeneration process. Yeah. um Regeneration, i think also for a lot of people, the when it happens in a believer's life is very debated. Is it before your your belief in faith and the Holy Spirit regenerates you before you even have faith and causes you to have faith? Or does the Holy Spirit's regeneration come after you have faith? This again goes back to the old Calvinism, Arminianism debate now. And my answer is yes. Yes. Well, I think a lot of people can point to like a time as well. And I think it is different when you are raised.
00:31:49
Danny Price
um Yeah. And your your faith is kind of an ongoing process, right? There were some ins and outs and and you don't really know if you can like point to like that was the moment. yeah Yeah. The crock pot version when we've actually cooked. Right. i don't know when I was actually cooked, but I know that God did it. That's why do know. I'm on the way.
00:32:06
Danny Price
Oh, imputation is, Dave, and that's next. Sorry, I didn't realize. i kind of just put some of these back to back and make me talk a lot. but No, it's it's a it' all good. The flow is great. um So imputation would be being credited to. It's actually, I didn't realize this, but it's an accounting term.
00:32:22
Danny Price
um And so it's that from us, sin was imputed onto Christ at the cross. But then the flip side of that is Christ's righteousness is imputed to us as believers.
00:32:35
Danny Price
So it's not something that was art or something that we could gain or do on our own, but it was given to us. And then the the flip side of that is Christ is without sin, ah completely and totally, but he we impute our sin upon him at the cross, when which he pays for our sins.
00:32:53
Danny Price
That's cool. adult It goes back and forth. of that I heard someone teach a really cool message on that, and I love that. um The next one is reconciliation, which is shame. Well, once again, a word most of us know, to reconcile means to restore a broken relationship, resolve difference.
00:33:10
Danny Price
But within talking about our faith, we're talking about how Christ reconciled us through the act of the cross. So Christ's death on the cross reconciled us to God through his atoning sacrifice.
00:33:24
Danny Price
um we are able to have that relationship. and And real quick, because I think definitely early on in my faith, that word, the word atonement and reconciliation to me, I just kind of thought, oh, it means the same thing. oh yeah But they don't mean the same thing. The atonement is the act of what Jesus did, what needed to be done for us to be reconciled. So the only way we're reconciled to him is through Christ's atonement. so Interesting.
00:33:53
Danny Price
Again, that's really good that you make those clarifications because I think for some of us, I know this is the case for me. I'm looking at these words. I'm like, kind of some of those all mean the same thing. And it's like, they meet They're talking about the same process, but there's different stages or different parts of that process yeah that are really important to notate. And it's kind of like any world you get into, right? If you're way into video games and someone tries to explain video games to me, like I'm kind of like, okay, the main guy and the bad guy is trying, you know, whatever. But they're they're like our actual terms. If you really want to understand the game better, you kind of have to know what they're talking about.
00:34:30
Danny Price
It's good for you guys to become experts. or or better learned in these things and not just be like, learned. Learned. Ooh, see, that was fancy word. You guys like that. All you guys listening like that word.
00:34:40
Danny Price
But it's good for you guys to understand these things, even at a surface level, and then grow in your knowledge of these things. Again, not for knowledge's sake, but that you can, again, it brings you into doxology. It brings you into glorifying God more because of these things that you learned about.
00:34:53
Danny Price
Well, and if I can add there too, i think that you've mentioned this before. And i think all of us could say there are hobbies in our life that if I had applied myself at a certain phase of life to God instead, how much more would I know about who he is? Would be equipped for the things of my life? You know, if reduced my knowledge of golf or if i could replace the the lyrics that are stuck in my head or... The stats from sports team. Right. Or who the bass player was for Quiet Riot. You know? Yeah. You might be the only person who has that in there. Quiet Riot, a band or you make that up. Shut up. You know that, man. I don't know if I do.
00:35:28
Danny Price
I think it is important for and for wherever you're at and that in and really just diving deeper and studying God's word and and making it something that you do love and you're passionate about. And the cool thing about it is unlike most hobbies, you kind of get to it and end with most hobbies. Yeah. right There's a point in time where you've learned everything about fish stinks. You can possibly, but really with the Bible and what's so cool about God and and his greatness and his glory is there is no point in time where you're like, got it. Yep.
00:35:57
Danny Price
Check. that's That's a great, that's a great point. You should read more about pride. Yeah. yeah Great word. Great word. um One of the easiest things to define and talk about about is the Trinity, which David is talking about next. I totally think that was not fair that you didn't take that one.
00:36:15
Danny Price
It's not that bad. we did i feel okay We just talked about it the last podcast a little bit, and I felt like I'm... Okay, so we're here in a different perspective. I like that. I like that. I love that I blame you too, because I could have taken it, but I didn't. We saw it a day before. We're good. No, but I think Trinity, mean, simply put, is that Christ, the Holy Spirit... Isn't one of the Spice Girls? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:36:38
Danny Price
Not my generation. don't know. That Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, and God the Father or have three distinct persons, but are one in nature and one in being. Yeah.
00:36:50
Danny Price
meaning that they they cannot be apart from one another, but also that community is fully fulfilled within Christ and within God, that he is a communal being. And that's something that's imparted on us as well. We can go back to the anthropology of mankind and yeah um and we we're created in his image and that's part of it. And so there's a lot to the Trinity. I think it's an incredibly important piece of doctrine that we are very clear about that you know one is not greater than another. Hmm.
00:37:21
Danny Price
Yeah, well that was good. i well I love that you added that he is ah he is a fully communal being in of himself. um Because that that's that's one of those aspects of God that is really hard for us to wrap our mind around. Because we've experienced loneliness. And I think a lot of people believe that God created us because he was lonely. Oh, yeah. and And that but God did not experience loneliness in in of himself without us. um So, you know, we he created us for his glory. It's a different, and different thing. and
00:37:54
Danny Price
So I love that. That's a really good point. yeah We are not needed. Yeah. When it talks about how God is love, it's not this selfish love because it's, again, it's in community. It's God, the Father living, the Son living, the Holy Spirit, the eternal, you know eternity past and current and eternity present and then eternity to future.
00:38:12
Danny Price
It's not God is love because he just loved himself and was selfish. So when it says God is love, that's like a really cool way that's being fulfilled and has been fulfilled. Well, I think one of the confusions, too, with the Trinity is that there is some sort of hierarchy within within the three persons. And I think that's a very dangerous false doctrine that people can get into because we do see that Jesus does submit to the Father while he is here on earth, or living the example that we're supposed to be called towards. um but jesus was there at the beginning and he will be there at the end and he is equal parts a part of that trinity there is not a greater than um to that yeah well that's really good all right the next one repentance shane what is repentance oh no did i miss one i missed i don't even see oh there's repentance yeah excuse me incarnation incarnation um that's right um
00:39:03
Danny Price
um the incarnation is basically just the the belief that the person of Christ was, is fully God and fully human. And I wrote down a few scriptures just because I believe this is definitely the, one of the ones that is really hard for some of our people audience based on their coming out of the Mormon faith to grasp yeah along with the Trinity.
00:39:24
Danny Price
But, you know, I, unfortunately, i mean, I've had a lot of people come to me over times and say things like, you know, well, I just can't get around this. and they And they kind of think, well, the Bible doesn't really point to it that clearly. um but And these are just three verses, right? But this is throughout scripture. But, you know, Colossians, we're going to cover in just next week.
00:39:48
Danny Price
In him dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily. You know, so it's literally saying in Christ, in the body of Christ, God, God dwells. philip Philippians 2, 6, and 7. Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God thing to be grasped. That's going back to what David said about while he was on earth, yeah he he submitted himself.
00:40:10
Danny Price
But he emptied himself by taking the form of a servant being born in the likeness of man. So literally saying that he he took that form on. even though he is God. And in John 1, 14, and the word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we have seen his glory, glory as the only son from the father, full of grace and truth. Isaiah 9, 6, for unto a child, unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. The government shall be upon his shoulder. His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace. So, yeah. you know These are just a few of the quick ones that I could just pull up to refer to that I think it's so important. um like Quite frankly, for me, this is, of all these words, this to me is the one that like, man, if we don't have this...
00:41:05
Danny Price
then but then we really were down a very slippery slope yeah of of everything else. yeah Everything else just can start to fall apart if we don't have this. So anyway. I was thinking about like how much I love that we're going through Colossians right now because in the first passage, there was so much that is being described about who Jesus is. And it's like if we don't get that he is God โ€“ We are missing the point. I mean, there are so many things out there that will talk about him being a great prophet or a really good teacher. And you're like, no, no. That all means nothing unless you know he yeah is God.
00:41:40
Danny Price
That's so good. um I thought it was interesting. heard this before from someone else, but I can't remember who, so i want to give them credit, but I can't. It's some teacher or someone that preached a message on this. But talking about in the New Testament, when Jesus is called Lord, a lot of people will take that and go, well, that just meant like master or like good teacher. It's like not, it's not actually saying like God. No, the word that they use for Lord in the New Testament is kurios or kurios. Yeah. Which is the same thing as when old Testament is calling God ya Yahweh. So yeah literally when it's saying like those, are not all who say Lord, Lord will enter my kingdom.
00:42:13
Danny Price
But those that do much what I say, that's a paraphrase of that verse. That's saying Yahweh, Yahweh. So it's literally Jesus saying, i am Lord as Yahweh is Lord. It's like the same thing. so Yep.
00:42:25
Danny Price
All right. Are on to repentance now? as other yeah now we are. So now it's repentance by Shane. All right. So repentance just turning of our hearts and mind from sin and towards God. um And that comes as the more we recognize that our sin hurts, hurts God and destroys our ability to have a relationship with him. um So the more that happens, the more we recognize, you know, we recognize our need for a savior.
00:42:48
Danny Price
And it's so there's, i think there's two kind of ways we refer to repentance. There's, Repenting from like individual sin, like I get convicted, right, of sin, and I can't repent. But then there's the initial repentance, where we turn away from our sin to God, we recognize that we were walking away from God, we were the things we were doing were separating us from God, and we need a Savior, and we turn to God. um So there's there's two kind of ways that the word is used. There's the initial repentance. And then, in you know, the more we peel away, of like an onion, the more we peel away sin, the more we recognize even deeper sins that we didn't even know were there when we originally repented. So it's a constant process of... It's a humble onion. It's a process of... Sanctification. Sanctification. There we go. Okay. So we're just growing.
00:43:41
Danny Price
the next one is and I have this one, is righteousness. So righteousness, when you just go to define it, it will just say something like it's whatever is morally right or justifiable, which I'm sure, as you guys know, the world standard of that is just all over the place of what is morally right or justifiable. I mean, you could ask 20 people and get 20 different answers. So in a Christian Time justification now. Oh yeah, seriously. In terms of in terms of a Christian perspective,
00:44:06
Danny Price
God is righteous and God is righteousness. He decrees and says what is morally right and what is justifiable. So if you hear someone talking biblically about what is righteousness or about wanting to be more righteous, they're talking about wanting to emulate God's perfect righteousness and how how we can share in that.
00:44:23
Danny Price
A good verse for this is 2 Corinthians 5.21. And it says, God made him who had no sin, again, speaking of Jesus, to be sin for us so that in him, we might become the righteousness of God.
00:44:33
Danny Price
And I think Tony did a good job in the message talking about the whole idea of perfection about like being made whole. We'll talk about that later in the podcast going over the sermon, but I thought that was really cool that he was talking about the perfection of God and his righteousness kind of becoming ours as well. And we can share in that.
00:44:48
Danny Price
as we become more sanctified. Something that, and I don't know who says who has said this, but the ideal righteousness is a lot of times defined as rightly related with someone. Like you have righteousness, you're rightly related with someone. So relationship and righteousness in a relationship looks like vertical with God. You have, I'm good i'm just gonna read this because I wrote this down. This is the foundational involving aligning with God's will, trusting in Jesus and maintaining a right standing with him through faith.
00:45:15
Danny Price
relationship with others and righteousness and others is often displayed as justice fairness kind of like what we think of as like the right way to handle situations in our life so again rightly related with righteousness you guys want to anything that no i haven't heard that before that's cool yeah it's a cool point um hold on what's the next one redemption david uh yeah so simply redemption is just uh rescue through payment And so you're being rescued and saved by Jesus right through the payment of sin. You know, another similar term that we used earlier, but redemption is a pretty simple, I think, one that it's all ultimately that we are redeemed through Christ. We are paid for. Our debt is covered through the.
00:45:59
Danny Price
payment of of sin on the cross. Yeah. Again, it kind of... No, like well it goes back to all these different things. It's kind of like the same... it's I feel like that's like the same as something as atonement, right? Redemption? Or am I wrong?
00:46:12
Danny Price
Or very similar? What would you say? Atonement... Yeah, okay. Like redeeming atonement. What is the difference there? Now i want to look that up. Because it's like, is atoning the death and redemption the pain of? Or what is like...
00:46:26
Danny Price
Sorry, i'm at it yeah I'm throwing a wrench into this. was thinking about this when I wrote this down. I was like, that's interesting, but that sounds so much like Atonement. Bear with us, audience, as we yeah dive into this.
00:46:37
Danny Price
um
00:46:40
Danny Price
Are you Googling that Okay. I'm actually ChatGPT. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I know. We'll see. We'll cross-check what ChatGPT says. What are we saying? Yeah. Okay, so this says atonement answers how sin is dealt with. Okay, that's kind of weird. And redeem redemption answers what are we saved from and bought it brought into. so So we're redeemed from um our sin and we're brought into Christ. Atonement is how it's dealt with. Okay, there we go. how got That actually makes sense. That's why we're doing this because even us all thinking about that, we're like, what is this? Yeah. i that That totally blew As soon as she asked, I looked at you like, oh, shit. Again, christian these are Christian-y words.
00:47:23
Danny Price
We just throw these words out, and it's like, you've got to be careful. like We want to be careful with how we're but describing these things. We want to do it accurately. And real quick, Well, sometimes I think that you can be talking about both.
00:47:34
Danny Price
Yes. You could be having that conversation and and use, to a degree, some interchangeability there. Yeah. Now, not every time you use the redemption is... can you substitute that for atonement and vice versa?
00:47:46
Danny Price
But often I think that there is enough overlap that there is some level of substitution that works. Yeah. Real quick, I was going to ask did you find that definition somewhere? did you just kind of summarize it and come up with that? The part they're rescued from.
00:47:59
Danny Price
The rescue through payment? Yeah. I pulled together a few different things. I was reading on redemption and i was like, that seems really I just like the idea of rescue because I've always said it as like like paid for by. you we do but But when you think about things that are redeemed, it's usually they're they're kind of rescued. You know you like you go back to them the Saving Private Ryan movie, right? and like The whole point is like is I was rescued from death by these guys and I was redeemed, you know but was it worth it? You know, and, yeah you know, even redeeming a can, you're rescuing it from just, you know, anyway. Rescuing it from a store. and yeah she for Yeah. And I mean, there too, like, it's already been paid, right? Yeah. With a, if you're redeeming a coupon, that coupon is already valid. It's not that you need to add something to it yeah Yeah. I like it. I like it. That's accurate. All right. i have the next one, which is salvation. Oh.
00:48:51
Danny Price
Oh no, do I? Am I wrong? Yes, you're right. I do. yeah sorry I got lost in the page. So I have salvation. So salvation, this definition is preservation. my goodness, my Preservation. Preservation or deliverance from harm. being You're being saved from something.
00:49:05
Danny Price
It's a process, when as ah you know as Christians, we're talking to with salvation, the process of being saved or having been saved. So you'll hear Christians in Christian circles talk about when I was saved or are you saved or have you been saved or, you know, it's really important to know what that means.
00:49:19
Danny Price
And then again, saved from what? I want to talk about this just for a second. So quite simply, we're saved from the consequence of eternal separation from God. That's what we're saved from. If we try to take that away from our salvation, from our being saved, again, it kind of just deflates that word. It's like, well, then <unk> why would why do we need salvation if we're not being saved from something? It's not just for God to give us good goosey bumps and the christmas make us feel good. It's for us because we were we were destined for an eternal separation with him because of our sin, which is, you know, that's essentially the gospel if you um break it down really simply.
00:49:52
Danny Price
um salvation is the whole point of the gospel exactly and then i wanted to say we are not saved and again this you're not having salvation to have a more moral life we're saved to be less um to not have discomfort or saved from a life of poverty or saved from sickness or saved from unhappiness we are saved from the fires of hell if we have faith in jesus and repent and believe um i think salvation is like that's the one thing if you're listening and you're like i don't really know where i stand with this or what's going on like you say that word. I don't know if I have that. Get with someone and talk with someone. You want to, this is the most important thing about you is whether you have salvation in Jesus Christ or you don't.
00:50:27
Danny Price
Um, so again, just not to plug the gospel, but want to get the gospel in where I can. No, it's okay. Plug the gospel. I think it's okay to plug the gospel. I will plug the gospel. I'm sorry. Don't apologize, Lord.
00:50:42
Danny Price
your salvation the process or where you were saved if you were saved at a summer camp i work at a summer camp so i'm passionate about that that's just as valuable as if as if you were saved at a church or if you were saved on a street my dad was saved at a bar on on main street and park city you can be saved the process of you saying yes and putting your faith in jesus can be done anywhere. And it doesn't have to be, there's not this super secret prayer that unlocks that change. You want to about that? the sinner's prayer that people talk about. Does it have to be the sinner's prayer? no not it yeah And that's why I think there are some people that really can't even name the exact day yeah' say that going back to the Crock-Pot analogy, but they, they get to a place where there's like, yeah, no, my faith is in Jesus. yeah And, and I think it really comes down to, in fact, I want to be very clear that just because you said a sinner's prayer doesn't mean that you are saved. yeah Um,
00:51:29
Danny Price
you know you You really want to... Or you said yes at camp. Yeah, you raise your hand at a camp. you know You've lived your life completely apart from God. Yeah, but so so really make... That's where i would go back what Danny was saying is go talk to someone that you respect in their they walk with Christ and and you know talk it through if you're at all wondering. But but I will say, if you if you are seeking to walk after Christ and you have your faith in Him, then you don't have to wonder.
00:51:58
Danny Price
You know, you you're not he you don't have to have said a prayer. You don't have to have done it. and think I think add to that too. it you feel like you're in a rut, because I think there might be some of you that are listening that just feel like maybe you're in a spot right now where you you haven't heard from God and that you're praying, you're doing, you're seeking him, but you're just in a spot where your faith is being rocked a little bit. That also doesn't mean that you've lost your salvation. And I think that that's important to note that just because things feel off doesn't mean that he's not there and that he's not with you in those moments. yep You just might not see it. That's a great point to make. That's really important.
00:52:32
Danny Price
So yeah, hopefully that kind of gives you guys just an idea of what salvation is. It is the process by which we are saved, which again, we've talked about this whole process of salvation with all the different words, but I just wanted to summate, summarize, summate, is summate a word? Summarize, whatever.
00:52:46
Danny Price
I wanted to summarize just what salvation means. It's probably not a word. They're looking at me, they're like, that's not word. Okay. If it was someone else, I'd let it pass. Yeah, you're like, no, no, I don't want to do that.
00:52:56
Danny Price
It's like when we're playing, what is that what is that with the word game, this category is? That's not a word. You can use that. Or half of my sermons.
00:53:06
Danny Price
All right. Revelation. Revelation, David. He's next. Yeah. So Revelation is how God makes himself known to man. um Often people would hear that word and just think the book of Revelation. And it is the book of Revelation. Not Revelations. Not Revelations. um But really the book of Revelation is a revelation, a divine revelation to be more specific. yeah But it's not the only, and we all have revelation available to us, at least through natural revelation. So that's where the Bible talks about being God being shown through his creation, being shown through nature, the things that we see, feel, touch, and experience. And then divine revelation would be the moments and times where God goes outside of the laws of nature to reveal himself to his followers.
00:53:56
Danny Price
Yeah, that's perfect. um yeah that's i think that's really important that we have and i think that the what is the theological term for that general revelation of like like what you were saying natural natural everybody gets it and then special revelation which is like yep what we have with the bible that's a good point yeah it's really important well in special revelation is not always divine revelation as well um but divine revelation is always special revelation that's good So two subsects there. Anything else you want to add to that chain? No. All right. You've got another easy one. I know. I get the easy. I get the easy one. That's why I went through first and put my name next to it. Well, sin's not actually easy. I'm just kidding. Sin's not easy. Oh, okay. Well, I think it's easy in that it's probably the one the words that people least of have grasp of. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But what I think the mistake people make is they think of โ€“
00:54:45
Danny Price
only like certain things as sin and don't recognize it. No, there's a lot of other things that you probably don't look at as sin that are. um Because the word sin simply means to miss the mark, right? So it actually is oftentimes used, it was oftentimes used as an archery term. I actually, I should have written it down.
00:55:04
Danny Price
Yeah. Yes. It's to miss that exact mark. Anything off the bullseye was sin. And so it was the distance of your sin. It was your, that distance was your sin.
00:55:15
Danny Price
Okay. Whatever, however far off you And there was, I can't remember where, where it's at. I think it's in Chronicles. um It was talking about some um slings throwers that were chosen for battle. And it it said that they, um,
00:55:30
Danny Price
they could hit the hair of a head. They could hit the, oh my god that's how good they were. So, and it said, and and so the term was, they had no sin in their aim. And interesting so, yeah. So anyway, okay um but so it's any miss of the mark, right? So if we went out and shot bows and arrows at a, at a, uh,
00:55:51
Danny Price
right At a target. Good night. I could not use it. um At a target. i'm right here having a fry We would. um Right. I mean, i might hit one or two that would get kind of close. I might hit one or two that'd be far off. I might hit one that go one or two that are completely off. They don't even touch the target. Hit your son. Yeah. hit my son that That would be hitting the mark. that no um But.
00:56:18
Danny Price
They're all sin. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how. Yeah. If you don't hit the exact spot. And so we're all off of God's mark. um Romans 3.23. For all of sin and fall short of the glory of God. So I think the biggest part of that is just understanding it's not necessarily these big things that we think of like murder and adultery and, you know, being involved in the form. Yeah. It's not just those. those things are fine. Yeah. But it's also you know telling what we call white lies. Like somehow you put the word white in front of it, it's not a lie. um you know if dad that Don't even go there. So there's um you know there everything from that to getting to... getting angry with your spouse and in ah in an unjust way. um
00:57:04
Danny Price
you know ah you know You name it. you know Lying to the cop or you know speeding. probably we i mean Honestly, we could talk about speeding is yeah you know because we're supposed to obey the laws of the land. yeah you know so so Anytime we're doing that is not what we would show the most, glory would show glory to God in our actions and words and thoughts, it's a sin. Yeah.
00:57:25
Danny Price
So, whatever, heat yeah. Pretty much from about, um about 10 seconds as my feet hit the floor in the morning. Oh my goodness. i You know, at some level. Yeah. um One something I wanted to mention about sin and i I've heard people say this, and i understand that I'm going to define this. When people say all sin is the same, what they're what they're trying to communicate is all sin separates us from God god and from Jesus. yeah And he has to pay for that sin. Jesus does.
00:57:55
Danny Price
The problem I have with that is that they will use that to justify things in their life And say, well, it's not a big deal that I do this because all sin is the same. When you lie, that's the same as murder in God's eyes. And the truth is there is a difference to those things in terms of, yes, it does all separate just like Shane was saying. But we all know that if you were to molest a child or someone that that kills someone else, we know that that's worse than speeding on the highway. yes And I think you have to be careful. I'm i'm trying to be โ€“ I'm not trying to like... The consequence likely consequences worse too. Worldly consequences are worse. And that is a that is that is a worse thing to do to someone than just to speed.
00:58:33
Danny Price
However, in God's eyes, all sin is the same in the sense that it separates us all. So hopefully that makes a little bit of a clarification. i just want to be careful... When people say that, I'm a little bit like, well, yes, that's true, but that doesn't mean that we have this license to go, well, I can do whatever I want because all sin is the same and it's okay because Jesus going to pay for it. Not that big of a deal. Does that does that make sense? yeah It does. It's not fair to say that. And one thing I'll plug that our friend Bob says is we're all too often guilty of is not, we often ask, is this permissible? Is this allowed by God's word? Well, it's maybe it's not sin or I'm trying to like skirt the line of sin rather than saying, does this glorify God?
00:59:09
Danny Price
And when we look at our actions and we look at speeding, for instance, you know, does this glorify God is is a very different question than, well, is it okay? Can I still get to heaven if i do this? it really a sin? Right. Yeah. Is this really a sin? It's just, I think it's the the mindset in which we look at things needs to be shifted sometimes. Yeah, that's true.
00:59:29
Danny Price
That's really good. I have the next one, which is resurrection. We're almost at the end, guys. Thanks for sticking us. Where are we be at, time-wise? Almost an hour. or Over an hour right here. Oh, right at an hour. Quit talking about it.
00:59:43
Danny Price
Let's see. It'll be an hour and one. It's an and Oh, my God. So resurrection um is the action or the fact of restoring dead person to life or being restored to life.
00:59:54
Danny Price
That's the, again, more secular definition. For Christianity, it's really important talk about resurrection. There's Jesus dying on the cross and being dead for three days and then being resurrected and coming back to life. Our entire belief system hangs upon that fact. if that didn't happen, if Jesus didn't die and was resurrected, it really means he wasn't God and he's not really that worth worshiping because anyone can just say they died, but he actually died and was resurrected and that's why he's God.
01:00:19
Danny Price
um There is a verse here I wanted to mention. I don't have it written down. I have the verse have it written down. I'll read it to you guys later. I'll put it in the description. The two things I wanted to mention about resurrection are, there's kind of two parts to it. There's the Jesus rose from the dead, but then there's also that we experience resurrection with him in Christ.
01:00:37
Danny Price
And again, then here's a verse. Is this, oh you know what? This is going to make me so mad. You guys can Google this and find out where this is from. I think I have a different reference. i don't think this is the right verse, but I'm going to read this for you. Yeah, just read it. Now, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we also live with him. We know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again. Death no longer has demean over him. For the death he died, he died to sin once for all, but the life he lives, he lives to God.
01:01:01
Danny Price
So you must also consider yourself dead to sin and alive to God in Christ. That's somewhere in the Bible, and the reference I have here is wrong, and I think I screwed up when I was doing my notes. so there you go. There's resurrection.
01:01:12
Danny Price
You guys want to add anything to that? No. Was Romans 6, 6 through 8? Yeah, it was. It totally was. Yeah. Yeah, there you go like, I knew it was somewhere in there. I didn't want to say it wrong. And I have the, I have second, have first and first Corinthians and second Corinthians. So anyways, last one round us out is David with evangelism.
01:01:29
Danny Price
All right. So yeah, evangelism is essentially just spreading the gospel. It is what we are, you know, as Christians all called to do through the Great Commission, that our faith is not meant and to be a silent faith or one that is internal only. You know, our faith is not meant to be walked alone, but to be shared with with the world and we should be loud about it.
01:01:50
Danny Price
Yep. Yeah. That's really good. where does Where does that word, is that word, because that word's not in the Bible, is it? To evangelize or is it? No. I don't think so. It comes from evangelicalisms.
01:02:06
Danny Price
I'm just kidding. No, I have no idea where evangelical. Evangel? But I have no... What's it say? Interesting.
01:02:21
Danny Price
He's going to win it. Working on it. Because i'm I'm pretty sure that's something's not in the Bible. So again, just so you guys know, lot of these words are in the Bible. Oh, it's ah good news, guys, or gospel. The gospel. There we go.
01:02:32
Danny Price
It really comes from the gospel. That's so weird. I'm sure I've... See, that makes me feel stupid because I I've learned that. There's a Greek word here that I... E-U-A-N-G-E-L-I-O-N.
01:02:45
Danny Price
Evangelion. Evangelion. Oh, yeah. Interesting. So... Awesome. anyway Well, there you go. So again, this is not by any means an exhaustive list. This list was 20-something of the ideas that I had, but I'm sure if you guys...
01:02:59
Danny Price
putting questions or put in your own list. Maybe we'll do another one of these episodes a year later or something, find some new words that are harder to define. These are like cause some of the basics. Hopefully this was helpful for you guys. yeah It was fun for us to sit here and just to laugh at each other, trying to work through these. I think it was fun. um Just for those that are listening, I mean, the way this podcast kind of originated was kind of out of the ideas of that we do this a lot on Sundays. We sit around and talk about Yeah. The sermon and different theological ideas and that kind of thing. And the table yeah, at the table. And so we're just sitting at the table and doing that So yeah, which is really fun. Yeah. So that was kind fun.
01:03:34
Danny Price
Yeah. I appreciate you having me on. Yeah. Thanks for being on. What would you say is the next biggest thing for men's ministry coming up that men should know about if you're listening to this? Yeah. Parking on the spot. I did not have breakfast. It is. It is Men's Breakfast the 21st at 8.30. I showed two guys today. One hour at a time. yeah, 8.30 the 21st of February at MVF Church in Heber City. We are going to Men's Breakfast going through the rest of the events for the year. So that will kind be a great place if you are not sure what's going on or what we have to offer. We will go through...
01:04:07
Danny Price
just about anything and everything that we have, um, you know, our core principles, um, I'll actually be sharing a little bit of my testimony there as well. Um, and so really excited for any of you guys listening, please, uh, please join us. We'd love to have you. And I'm assuming it's in the cafe.
01:04:21
Danny Price
Yes. Awesome. So yeah, I know some of you guys might not have expected this coming. Hopefully this was interesting just to hear us talk about all this stuff. We will be doing a podcast coming up for the next couple days on the sermon that Tony taught today. We're actually recording this on a Sunday on the 8th. So we're actually going to talk about his sermon a little bit.
01:04:39
Danny Price
He actually alluded, do you hear that? He alluded to it in the sermon talked about. yeah. You really love these verses in Colossians. So yeah, that'll be cool to hear you talk about that hair on that. Awesome, guys. Appreciate you all listening. And then we will see you guys in a couple of days. Again, all that stuff like the podcast, rate it, send us to your friends. We appreciate you. Yeah. Bye.