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Prayer | A Praying Church Episode 26
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In this episode Danny and Shane discuss the importance of prayer, how to pray, the spiritual realm and spiritual warfare.
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Return from Break & Christmas Reflections
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dprice171
hey everybody. This is Danny Price, and I'm here with Shane Finley. We're back with episode 26 of the Table Talk Discussions podcast. Really excited. We're back. We took a little bit of a break over Christmas. you know Obviously, Shane was having some issues with his voice, but then for Christmas sake, weeks were busy. It was crazy.
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dprice171
We had... four services at MVF, which I got the pleasure of running sound for all those Christmas Eve services. And it was fantastic. The turnout was great. I think the environment was great.
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dprice171
um Worship was great. People were really excited to be there. It's a great time
Shane's Food Poisoning Experience
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dprice171
of year. Shane's preached a great message despite being... So Shane, um I'll just tell everyone you had just food poisoning.
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dprice171
um
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shane
Yeah, yeah, it was bad.
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dprice171
Was it... did you have food So you had food poisoning after, because we did one service on the 23rd, and you got it after that, right? Or was it before all that?
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shane
Yeah, no, yeah, i got it. um Wait, we had one, yeah, no when did I get it?
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dprice171
point Was it the 23rd?
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shane
Yeah, yeah, it was it it was after the service on the 23rd.
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dprice171
The night of the 23rd?
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shane
So I had taken ton to the airport on the and was and i We saved leftovers from Mo Betta's. This is not,
Record High Christmas Service Attendance
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shane
I love Mo Betta's.
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dprice171
Didn't
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shane
So this is not against them. I saved their macaroni salad.
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dprice171
But don't do this.
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shane
And, uh, on the 23rd, um, before service, I had that leftovers, but I had saved the macaroni salad and left it in the car for like five, or six hours. I'm 90% sure that was it.
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dprice171
Yeah, mayonnaise or whatever that is for five hours.
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shane
Um, Yeah. and yeah And I had that on the 23rd for lunch, like a late lunch dinner thing before I went to
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dprice171
oh
Christmas in Florida
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shane
service.
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shane
And then by the time we got home, i was like, something's not right. And then I did not sleep at all the night of the twenty third um Because I literally was just by the toilet all night.
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dprice171
ah that's
Upcoming Series on Prayer
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shane
Yeah, i' I didn't think I was going be able to preach. And then I finally, about 10 o'clock in the morning, started feeling good enough that i was like, i think I'm going to go give it a shot. And I made it all the way through.
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dprice171
that's
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dprice171
You were fine.
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shane
Yeah.
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dprice171
And you were fine. I mean, at least from my perspective, like I didn't notice any difference.
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shane
Wow. e
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dprice171
It didn't seem like you were in pain or anything.
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shane
Yeah, no, i I really felt like God just kind of like gave me ah the strength because I was extremely tired. And literally, I mean, like 830 that morning, there if you would have said I was going to preach that day, I would have laughed
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dprice171
That's crazy.
Cultural Views on God and Prayer
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shane
you.
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dprice171
Oh, man. Besides that, how was Christmas? Because you didn't, and I think you you mentioned this in the sermon, you didn't er the Christmas Eve service, you didn't spend it with Tanya on Christmas Eve, and then you were you flew out when on Christmas to Florida?
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shane
Yeah, I flew out Christmas morning at 11. So, yeah, i mean, it it was it was fine. it just didn't I just didn't feel like Christmas at all. we just i basically you know went home after Christmas Eve services, but I was tired anyway, which, I mean, they were awesome.
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
i think we had our highest attendance ever um between the two days.
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dprice171
and
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shane
We had almost 1,200 people. and
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dprice171
wow
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shane
And, you know, was just fun. Like I said, it's just a great time of year. I love celebrating with people. Everyone's just always in a great mood, all that. so um And then went home, got a good night's sleep, and just kind of chilly.
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shane
Got up in the morning, very chill. And um and then we ended up, I traveled all day Christmas Day, and and we celebrated here with Rachel and Angie and
The Nature of Prayer and God's Will
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shane
Bella and Dylan and Tanya's mom um on the 26th.
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shane
yeah
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dprice171
Nice. Right on.
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shane
Yeah, and you guys celebrated your mom and dad.
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dprice171
Awesome. I had a, yeah, we were with my parents. Yeah, it was awesome. It was really nice. Pretty, pretty chill Christmas. Doesn't feel like Christmas because of the snow.
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dprice171
Honestly, it's weird.
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shane
Yeah, I imagine.
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dprice171
It's just, it felt like Thanksgiving, honestly. um I mean, obviously we're doing the toys and the presents and the kids are so excited.
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shane
yeah
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dprice171
It was a lot of fun. But yeah, just like the vibe. I was like, this doesn doesn't feel like Christmas.
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shane
Well, here in Florida, doesn't feel like Christmas at all.
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dprice171
It was, is it was, Oh, for sure. It's like, what is it, like 80 degrees out or something like that
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shane
yeah it It's actually, it was cold tonight. It got down to like 52, but um for Florida, you know, that's freezing.
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dprice171
that? Down.
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shane
But ah yeah, but we were at literally Christmas when we, on the 26th, we went to the beach, got in the water for like two hours.
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dprice171
Nice. Awesome. That's kind cool. I mean, that's not something that we we ever get to do.
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shane
Yeah. Never got to do it before. And, ah and my voice is a lot better down here. That that's good.
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dprice171
Oh, I'm sure. i'm sure I'm sure. um So a little bit just to kind of recap December. So we you know had a couple of random one-off Sundays, and now we're getting into
Posture and Influence of Prayer
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dprice171
this series on prayer, which Bruce kicked off this last weekend.
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dprice171
how long does what's the What's the plan, just to give us a little bit of like...
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shane
Well,
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dprice171
Okay.
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shane
yeah So this is, i wouldn't even call it a series. It's kind of a two-parter.
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dprice171
Okay.
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shane
did prayer and then I'm doing um spiritual war. I'm i'm doing the armor of God. I'm basically finishing Ephesians 6 because we didn't finish it before Christmas because of my voice.
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dprice171
Oh, right.
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dprice171
right.
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shane
And, um, and we just, you know, a few different years, we've tried to do like some sort of kickoff on prayer, like whether we have a 24 hour prayer that kind thing.
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shane
So Bruce actually suggested a 30 day focus on prayer, just with devotionals and stuff. So we thought, oh, well that's, that'd be good. And it will, he'll have his sermon and I'll have mine.
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shane
Um, and then the week after Scott McKinney's preaching,
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dprice171
Okay.
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shane
um And he'll be, i i actually don't even know what he's going to be covering. And then the week after that, I'm super excited because Tony, our new youth pastor, is going to preach.
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dprice171
Oh, cool. Oh, yeah, that's exciting.
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shane
Yeah. And then after that, we're going to be getting into a new series going through the book of Colossians.
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dprice171
Oh, sick. Awesome. That'll be great. I know you were saying you were trying to pick a book, but I didn't know what you landed on. So that's
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shane
Yeah, and I landed on that over ah kind of around Christmas.
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dprice171
awesome. Cool. um So just to highlight some stuff with prayer, Bruce, his sermon was
Spiritual Experiences and Guardian Angels
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dprice171
mainly more on the spiritual realm. And I wanted to just ask you some questions more um on...
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dprice171
habits and situations with prayer, kind of more practicalities of prayer, and then a little bit later ask you some questions on spiritual realm. And I know you're going to get get a little bit into that next week too. So the first question I had was,
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dprice171
what is What exactly is the purpose of praying? And then I jotted some things down that I've heard people say prayers for, and I just want to throw these out. Do we pray for things we want? Do we pray to praise God, to thank God, to alter our perception of God, to feel good?
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dprice171
Is it for protection? Is it for eternal or or temporal requests? And what is what does scripture say about what to do when you pray or what to pray for? So that's a lot, but what's the purpose? Why are we praying?
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shane
Yeah, I mean, honestly, with all those, kind of the answer is yes. um
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dprice171
Right.
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shane
You know, I feel like there's obviously there's pieces of all that. The best thing, description, I like a prayer. And I don't remember who said this, but um did the purpose of prayer is to align our will with God's will.
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shane
um And what i
Balancing Spiritual Fascination with Biblical Evidence
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shane
What I've always and liked about that is he gets you know very much gets the idea that when we're praying, when we're going before the Father, when we spend that time in the presence of the Father, you know hit the Spirit does begin to um move us, convict us, guide us, direct us, all these things towards more his will rather than our will. So we go to God, you know, with with our request and we're called to do that. We go to God with all all the the things that are on our heart, but the more time you spend in prayer, and ah i have experienced this, I know you've probably experienced this, i you know, the... um
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shane
Bible is pretty clear that this happens, that, you know, the more time you spend in prayer, the more time your spirit just kind of aligns under God.
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shane
You get you you you begin to submit your will to him.
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dprice171
Hmm.
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shane
um
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
You know, but i mean, the Bible has so many passages that talk about how it is. Prayer is for us to draw near to him. um Prayer is to communicate with him.
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dprice171
Mm-hmm.
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shane
Prayer is um to seek his will. um You know, ah it's to, to bring requests before him, you know, and then I, I would encourage everyone who's wondering about prayer to turn to, um you know, in Matthew, I think it's chapter six where Jesus tells us how to pray, you know, and the Lord, the Lord's prayer.
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dprice171
The Lord's Prayer? Yeah.
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shane
And, you know, you see there, he has the adoration of God, the confession, um you You know, you can kind of go through the Acts prayer. um I know you're familiar with it.
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shane
Adoration, confession, thanksgiving, and supplication. um Oh, really?
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dprice171
I'm actually not familiar with that. i I mean, i heard I've heard all those things about prayer, but not in that.
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shane
Yeah.
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dprice171
What is that, an anagram? You call that an anagram?
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shane
Yeah, it's an anagram, good just using Acts.
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dprice171
Yeah. Yeah.
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shane
um But, you know, spending time just praising God, that would be your adoration. Spending time in confession, um spending time in thanksgiving, just thanking him for all the blessings.
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dprice171
Yep. Yeah.
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shane
And in supplication, bringing your requests before him. So, you know, and that's basically what Jesus does in in Matthew 6.
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dprice171
yeah
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dprice171
Yeah, that's that's good. ah quite like Kind of a sub-question. Do you think, as ah specifically as Americans, do you think we, A, treat God a little bit too much like a like a genie, like a but and and like a buddy?
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shane
Genie and Bottle.
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dprice171
And also, do we do we treat him too familiar? like Because I think some branches of Christianity and and even certain people will...
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dprice171
kind of make God a little bit not accessible. Like I'm thinking of like certain, like high, like high religion type of denominations or even like Catholicism. Like there's a, there's a, there's an awe and like a God's way up there. And we're, we can never like reach up to God because he's so far away and it's not very personal.
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dprice171
And I think we've kind of swung little bit back to like, he's ultra personal. Like say, Hey bud, like when you're talking to God, you're, you're using like, so do you think as we're treating him too much like a genie and then also a little too buddy, buddy, or do you think that's not really a thing?
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shane
Yeah.
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shane
Yeah.
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dprice171
And that just depends.
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shane
No, I definitely think so. You know, I mean, I think there's the genie analogy. There's the slot machine one, you know, where it's like, just throw up random prayers.
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dprice171
Mm-hmm. Hmm.
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shane
You pull the handle and see how he answers, um you know, and in the buddy thing and, I think all three are are true. We all were guilty of all those things. um It's hard though, right? It's hard to find that right balance. Just like any relationship, you know, like I always go back to this as you know that, you know, in any relationship, I don't know any human that gets a relationship 100% right.
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shane
You know, there are some people who treat relationship a little too much transactional. Some people who treat it
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dprice171
Oh,
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shane
You know, they just rely too much on the emotion of it, all all that. And I think we do the same thing when we relate to God oftentimes in our brokenness and our sin. um
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shane
Man, i I'm still getting a little dry.
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dprice171
ah you're good.
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shane
But, um us you know, so, um you know, one thing that was interesting is we just went two days ago, um you know, Rachel and Dylan are going to Eastern Orthodox.
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dprice171
lot of talking.
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shane
church.
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dprice171
Right.
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shane
And so we went with them and I had not been to an Orthodox church in 25, oh man, 30, 32 years probably. um And when I went before, it was a Greek Orthodox.
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dprice171
Oh, geez. Oh,
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shane
I didn't even know what was going on.
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dprice171
oh because it was all in Greek.
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shane
um
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
So, but for this, you know, they obviously, I mean, they high church very high church. they you know The prayer, everything's very um ah liturgical, but also reverent. you know
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
And you know I think there's something to that. There's something to be said about being reverent before God. um
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
But I also think You know, we we see the very personable aspects in prayer, in the in especially in the Gospels. um
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
So I think you've got to find that balance. But no, I definitely think we're a little too lackadaisical, you know, just in general.
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dprice171
OK.
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shane
towards God in in our Western culture.
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dprice171
Yeah.
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shane
we we You know, I mean, it all comes down to, we you know, still today we have a lot of people who want God to be who we want him to be, and we think it's okay to do that instead of saying, you know, looking to scripture to be, you know, for God to be who God is.
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dprice171
ah hu
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dprice171
Right. Right. No, and I think I've done that too. And I think you know in a lot of denominations or non-denominational settings, you grew up with with a very, God is my friend. I'm a friend of God, which is, I mean, it's there. it's It's somewhat accurate to scripture, but also you can take that to the to the far end where you're not, yeah, there's no majesty. There's no reverence.
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dprice171
I think I've, I think I've been there when I was younger a little bit and kind of ah swung back a little bit more towards that reverence with him. And I think,
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shane
Yeah.
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dprice171
and I gotta, I gotta be careful. Cause I don't want people thinking that you have to hide who you are to be reverent to God, because there's times, there's so many times where David and certain people cry out to God and just their anguish. And it's like, I might not be very reverent, but that's like, they're laying their heart bare before the Lord. I don't think necessarily that's wrong. I'm just saying, if you're asking God for all these things and treating him like a, like your buddy in a genie bottle, just not quite, not quite an accurate picture of what God is or who God is.
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dprice171
Um, second question I had, um, Why do some prayers not get answered, but then others do? And then kind of a sub question of that, do we need to pray to God to unlock his power?
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dprice171
Like, is he there like saying, Hey, if you'll just ask me for it, I'm going to give this to you. All you got do is ask and I'm ready. And then if you don't ask, it's like, Oh, I would have given this to you, but you never asked.
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dprice171
is Is that at all? Do you see any scriptural evidence that that's how God is operating with prayer?
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shane
um
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shane
So let let me, let's go back to your, the first part of your question.
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dprice171
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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shane
The first part was, um why do some get answered and and others don't?
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dprice171
yes
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shane
You know, i it's kind of a trite saying, but it's, it's, ah it's a good way of remembering what how prayers do get answered. as you know Bruce mentioned it on Sunday a little bit. of um He just alluded very quickly to it. but or yeah It's not that God doesn't answer. Sometimes he answers no. Sometimes he answers go slow. Sometimes he answers you know go, all all that. but
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dprice171
Hmm. Hmm.
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shane
But I do believe God answers all prayer. he just doesn't answer the way we want him to answer sometimes. So that's, I would at least say that, um you know, because there again, it's aligning our will with his will, right? So if, you know, hopefully if we're really praying with a submissive will, you know, over time, if the answer was no, we'll we'll begin to see that that was what God intended.
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shane
um So anyway, don't know if that helps for the first part of that.
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dprice171
yeah Yeah, it does.
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shane
Yeah. Does that make sense?
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dprice171
um
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shane
You disagree, Agendel.
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dprice171
But no, I don't disagree.
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shane
yeah
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dprice171
I'm just curious. Sorry, I was like actually looking up another verse too. I guess, what's the clarification on... for ah for a not Because I'm thinking from the perspective of a non-believer, just hear me out.
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dprice171
I'm playing a little bit of this devil's advocate here.
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shane
Yeah. Yeah.
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dprice171
let And Hannah and I have talked back and forth about this with other stuff too. But a lot of times we attribute certain good things as answered prayer. For example, um you know you get a bonus from work, or you get a nice tax return, or you get your kids are healthy. And you're like, man, that's what an answer to prayer. And a lot of it is very...
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dprice171
temporal and like personal just satisfaction things in our life. I have money, I have happiness, I have wealth, I have food on the table, I have a roof over my head. And then you see other Christians that are praying for those things in third world countries. I mean, just like what's going on in Africa right now with some of these Christians, you know, and the Muslim persecution. I mean, I'm sure those Christians are praying incredibly hard and they're not getting those things. So a lot of people I can see having this this the struggle of like,
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dprice171
Is it really just arbitrary about what God decides for people in temporal gain? Or is, like, does does that make sense? Like, why... the the ah The authenticity and the in the seriousness of your prayer doesn't even seem to matter unless there's, again, you know God is way bigger than all this. But does that make sense? like Why does is my does my life look so good and other people's lives don't look that good, even though they might be praying way more earnestly than I ever have about anything?
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dprice171
Does that make sense?
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shane
Okay.
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dprice171
and so it's just like a It's a strange question, but I'm thinking for people who are
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shane
Yeah. Yeah. No, it makes sense. But that's why i continue to go back to, I think the more, the purple the bigger purpose of prayer is aligning my will with God's will.
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shane
It's not getting God to do what I want him to do.
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dprice171
Hmm.
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shane
And I think that's one of the biggest things that we get confused with
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dprice171
Hmm.
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shane
in the American church is so, okay. I've never been to Nigeria where, you know, a place where they're having the problems that they're having now, but you know, I've been to Honduras and Peru and um lots of Latin American countries and
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dprice171
Yes.
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dprice171
Mexico, yeah.
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shane
And they're not having the same issues there, but they they have, you know, a lot really difficult things that they go through that the average American has not even the slightest clue.
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shane
um
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dprice171
Right.
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shane
And yet they pray very fervently. And what I have found is that the more they pray, the more they just, they learn to trust God in it. And,
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shane
um you know, and i and and maybe my theology is a little off compared to a lot, you know, a lot of people might just really disagree with me, but I i i feel like we,
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shane
we're we're pretty guilty of trivializing a lot of prayer in the United States. um You know, I think we we pray for things that God care. I'm not gonna say God doesn't care,
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shane
but But yeah, they were either, gun they were you know god they were part of God's plan to happen the way I look at it. you know And and you know and yeah someone might look at that and go, well well, then you're saying, Shane, that when someone, when the mom in these ah you know that's praying for the baby, that it was part of God's plan for that baby to die when they if he didn't answer that prayer. and And honestly, yeah. I mean, I know a lot of people don't like that. We don't want to hear that, but But i I believe that we got to trust that God did have a bigger plan than what we were praying for.
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dprice171
Yeah. Yeah.
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shane
and um So I don't know. It's it's a tough one. i and you know Because then you get like matt in Matthew 7, 7, it says, ask and shall be given to you, seek and you shall find.
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shane
You know, and people will take a verse like that and think, well, you know, you should just ask whatever you want.
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dprice171
her
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shane
God's going to give that to you. And but then it' it's it just is not true if you're seeing it that way. You know, um there's just too many places that we see all the time that people aren't getting those answers.
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shane
um so I'm and'm probably not giving you very much clarity there, but. um
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dprice171
No, that that is helpful about the like the immediate circumstances or things. I think that does help. And I would agree. I think we oftentimes are praying for that front row parking spot to target and things like that. that i wouldn't It's hard to say that it doesn't matter, but also it's a little bit trivial, like you said.
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dprice171
i guess it is just difficult when...
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shane
Thank you.
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dprice171
I think you hear people say things like, well, that was such an answer to prayer that my son made it onto the football team or stuff like that. That's like, ah, well. Maybe. um And again, that's hard.
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dprice171
for That's hard, I think, as a non-believer to look at some of these situations because you see wicked people that are benefiting um temporally, you know, here on earth and and righteous people that aren't.
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dprice171
And yet the righteous people, when they do get benefits, are oftentimes attributing it to prayer. And like, why pray for this and God gave it to me? It's like, oh, well, um is it is it one or is it both or is it neither? Does that make sense?
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dprice171
Like some of the...
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shane
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:10
dprice171
Just some of the struggles. And again, you know, it's not causing me to doubt because I know that God says to pray and, you know, to bring humbly, but you know, bring your request to him. But it is it is a struggle inside when I hear people talk about this kind of stuff. I'm like, yeah, well, that's tough because Hannah and I were talking about God's faithfulness. And she was like, well, it's hard for me to see God's faithfulness in my life because a lot of these things I'm like, did I just get lucky?
00:22:32
dprice171
So then we had a long conversation we have a long conversation about that and circumstances.
00:22:32
shane
yeah
00:22:35
dprice171
And I was like, well, but you can see God's faithfulness in other ways, especially with your salvation and the people that placed you around. But just temporary circumstances, it's hard.
00:22:42
shane
Well, and you know, the here's where I would push it. I would say i would challenge most people to think something's an answer to prayer that God gives them simply for their own selfish gain.
00:22:55
shane
You know, OK, yeah, God answered your prayer to get you that on that football team. It was probably because you were supposed to witness and share your faith to someone. And if you didn't do it, then you failed.
00:23:04
dprice171
to
00:23:05
shane
um
00:23:05
dprice171
hu
00:23:06
shane
You know, God probably didn't get you on the football team because he just really likes you a lot. um And I know people don't want to get their yet people don't like to hear this stuff. But, i you know, yeah, God probably did get you the race because he wants you to start giving to your church. God probably did do this because he and you keep failing the test over and over and over again. So, you know, I mean.
00:23:28
shane
i I get kind of – that probably sounds super cynical. um But I get really fresh frustrated with Christians who who get this idea that God's just giving them stuff because they happen to be in America and be middle class. you know I mean like – I don't know. To me, it's just very – inconsistent when you look around the world and, you know, but then you go there again, I go to these other countries and, you know, I've been there where, you know, someone's going to do something and, you know, they'll be, they'll like make my faith look so little because of like, well, we just, we will pray about it God will give it God. And then when it doesn't happen, they don't go, oh well, God didn't answer our prayer. They go, well, that wasn't God's will.
00:24:11
shane
You know, and and they they pray fervently. They they trust God in it. And and then they just trust it. Well, hey, we're still going to ask, but we're also just going to get it.
00:24:22
shane
God's going what God's going to do. ah So.
00:24:24
dprice171
Pull things with a little bit of an open hand. Yeah.
00:24:26
shane
Yeah. You know, and then the other thing I'll just point to, you know, and people say, oh, well, maybe, you know, if you weren't praying fervently enough or, you know, if God wants you to have these good things, all this stuff.
00:24:39
shane
If you look at Luke 22, Jesus is praying before he goes the cross. Right. And he says, Father, if you're willing, you can take this cup from me.
00:24:51
shane
Yet not my will, but yours be done.
00:24:52
dprice171
Yep.
00:24:54
shane
um I believe Jesus was very fervently praying that prayer. He knew what he was going to go through. um
00:25:02
dprice171
Yeah.
00:25:03
shane
I believe if God was going to anything for somebody, it was going to be for him. um And yet he had him, he it was God's will being done, and that's what Jesus was willing to submit to. And his will was...
00:25:18
shane
I'm going to do this for you because this is what are to you because this is what's best for everybody, not what's best for you. And that's there again. So I just go back to if you think God's answering a prayer just because it's what's best for you, i would challenge you. that If he's answering that prayer, it's because he's wanting to see if you are going to do what's best for his glory.
00:25:43
shane
So.
00:25:44
dprice171
Yeah.
00:25:45
shane
i don't know. That's.
00:25:47
dprice171
No, that's good. that's That's helpful. And without trying to get make this entire podcast about it, I probably need to move on. But I'm trying to i think anything else to follow up on the side that.
00:25:56
shane
Yeah. i and And like said, I don't want to sound too harsh. I just, I want, I don't know. I i feel like, like you said, can it can sound really to a non-believer when, you know,
00:26:13
shane
Yeah, we're like, oh, God just gave me this parking spot. and But, you know, we're not thinking about, okay, well, why? Why why did God do that? Why does God do that? I'm not saying God didn't, but did he do it just because he wanted you to have a little bit better of a day? I don't know.
00:26:40
shane
Did I lose you?
00:26:41
dprice171
I cut out first.
00:26:41
shane
I should be like 10 seconds.
00:26:43
dprice171
I'm back. i don't know if it still, hopefully it's still recorded. um Do you still see your self-recording? I don't know.
00:26:51
shane
Yeah, let's say everything looks good.
00:26:52
dprice171
My web page just crashed and then I had to reload it.
00:26:56
shane
Yeah, that looks good. Time's still done it's on. It's same time, so.
00:27:02
dprice171
Hopefully that works. We'll see if I can hopefully get that back.
00:27:05
shane
Yeah. All right, we'll move on.
00:27:06
dprice171
um Anyways. yep No, you're good. um I'm actually going to, just for time's sake, skip question three. ah Question four that I had, should we take a certain posture while praying?
00:27:21
dprice171
Different people do different things, and throughout history in different churches, you do different things. people and Some people kneel, some people stand, some people take their hats off or raise their arms to heaven. Do you see any um need or importance to doing this?
00:27:39
shane
I think there again, a lot of it is for our own good versus God's requirement. ah hum Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with sitting in your car praying, you know, um or taking a walk and praying. But I think there's something to like laying prostrate before God.
00:28:02
shane
um I think there's something to being on your knees before God. um I think there's something to lifting up holy hands um before God. so So I think there's, you know, one, it's a it it displays the attitude of our heart at times when things are really important, when we're beseeching God, when we're um you know, showing ourselves completely submitted to him.
00:28:31
shane
But I don't think there's anything ah God would, you know, says, oh, you have to be in this posture at this time or anything like that.
00:28:39
dprice171
Okay. Yeah. In scripture. Yeah. You see all kinds of stuff. Um, I just know some people make a really big deal out of certain things.
00:28:43
shane
Yeah.
00:28:45
dprice171
It's interesting. Uh, I, it's hard for me too, because
00:28:47
shane
Mm-hmm.
00:28:53
dprice171
i don't want the way that I feel about something to, because I think I've grew up, you know, you, you take your hat off when you pray. And then some people are like, no, but you're supposed to, like, I mean, in Jewish tradition, you cover your head when you cover your head when you pray.
00:29:09
shane
Yeah.
00:29:10
dprice171
um But I don't want just the way that I think I feel more reverent to be the only guideline. Because if God says, like, this is what you're supposed to do, you're supposed to do it. So I don't want my feelings to dictate that. But it is hard because looking through scripture, I don't see a whole lot that would lead me to be consistently going, OK, like there's different verses here and there that talk about different postures and things, but it's hard for me to know, okay this is how you will pray no matter what. Mm-hmm.
00:29:37
shane
Yeah, I don't think there's anything that this is how you're pregnant no matter what.
00:29:37
dprice171
and i've
00:29:39
shane
But I do think it's worth trying different things. You know, there again, going back to relationship, you know, if your MO with you and your wife is to sit on the couch and hang out and have casual conversation every now and then it might be better to um sit at the kitchen table and look each other in the eye when you're talking, you know, and you might find you connect in a different way or every now and then it might be better to go for a walk.
00:30:05
dprice171
Yeah.
00:30:09
shane
And, and I would say, you know, and there again, normally when you're having like a really serious conversation with somebody, know, you're, you, it's a little bit different. You know, that your posture is different.
00:30:21
dprice171
yeah
00:30:21
shane
And I would, I would say with that same thing with prayer, you know, like, I think it's good for your relationship with God to kind of change it up a little bit.
00:30:29
dprice171
Yeah, no, that makes sense. um All right, so getting into more of this like supernatural stuff, this is, you know again, a little bit of a longer question. I'll try to format this so it makes sense.
00:30:42
dprice171
But basically, should we focus on the spiritual realm at all? Is it healthy to to focus on that, or should we just ignore it? And then in addition to that,
00:30:56
dprice171
What should we biblically attribute in our lives to spiritual warfare or should we at all? And we can get into that later, but I guess let's answer the first parts of that.
00:31:07
dprice171
Do we, do we focus on the spiritual? Is it healthy? Is it unhealthy? Let's, let's, let's talk about that first.
00:31:17
dprice171
You're muted.
00:31:20
dprice171
Shane, you're muted.
00:31:25
shane
Sorry, I had to cough and I forgot. um So i would definitely say yes.
00:31:27
dprice171
ah you're good. You're good.
00:31:31
shane
It's good to... um we should be focused on a little, um you know, we do need to be aware, like Bruce was saying, that there are, there is a physical and there's a spiritual realm, um you know, which I'm to be covering this week that, you know, Ephesians 6, 12, for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, um but against the cosmic powers of this present darkness against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm.
00:31:41
dprice171
thanks
00:31:56
shane
So, you know,
00:31:57
dprice171
Mm-hmm.
00:31:59
shane
It's good for us to be aware of that and to acknowledge it. um i you know I think we've got to be a little careful how much we give credit to everything. you know There's the whole old, if you're my age, the yeah old Dana Carvey, yeah SNL skits where, you know, he played the church lady and everything was Satan's fault. um But, um you know, um and I, you know, and I was making fun of the fact that, you know, some Christians, just everything is spiritual warfare.
00:32:27
dprice171
Yeah.
00:32:38
dprice171
It's an attack. Yeah.
00:32:39
shane
Yeah. and And so I think we got to be careful not to overplay it, but I think we have to be very aware. I think it's very, it's a slippery and dangerous slope. If you only deal with things in the physical world, um,
00:32:55
shane
But um on the at the same note, I think we do have to recognize that we are just sinners. So not everything is a spiritual attack either. You know, you're you're a broken person. You're a sinner.
00:33:06
shane
And it doesn't necessarily have to be that that a spiritual force was enticing you to do something. You very well may have just chose it because you choose selfish sin.
00:33:20
dprice171
Yeah.
00:33:21
shane
Yeah.
00:33:22
dprice171
No, I agree with that.
00:33:25
shane
So, um yeah, I mean, I don't know. You know, i know where, you know, they're back in the um mid 80s and 90s, you alluded to it here in in your notes about the Frank Peretti books.
00:33:39
shane
You know, everything was a.
00:33:39
dprice171
Yeah, I've read a bunch of the i've read a bunch of those, so i was which made me think of that because...
00:33:40
shane
Yeah.
00:33:44
dprice171
I guess the thought with those specifically is, and the reason I put that, is the premise of a lot of those books is, because I've read The Prophet, I've read This Present Darkness, Piercing the Darkness, and there's one or two other ones I read by him.
00:33:45
shane
Yeah.
00:33:58
dprice171
And the premise is, um again, they're novels, are fictional, but the premise is almost always there is a spiritual battle going on around you, like at this moment, like demons are fighting your guardian angels and your guardian angels are trying to fight these demons back.
00:34:08
shane
Yeah.
00:34:12
dprice171
And your prayers are what the angels need to like win these battles. And if you pray harder, these angels will fight better to beat back these demons. So they don't have this stronghold over this town or this person or whatever, which that's kind of why I put that part of the question is like, do we have an effect on the spiritual realm around us by the things that we do either by prayer or, or by,
00:34:35
dprice171
um whatever, just are are the way that we interact with people. So I guess that was kind of that second part is if we focus on it, how much do we actually attribute to what we can control or not control over this this realm?
00:34:48
dprice171
Just to give a little clarification on that, sorry.
00:34:51
shane
Yeah, no. And, um, I don't know, man, it, that's, that's a tough one. You know, you, you can find the gamut of theology on that. Um, everything from God is in complete control and everything is going to happen exactly way God wants it to in the first place to, you know, we have the ability to affect these spiritual powers and, um,
00:35:02
dprice171
Yeah.
00:35:20
shane
I'd love to tell you I had a really thought out theology on it. I really don't. um i know... you know i know You know, Psalm 115, I'll just give you a couple of verses, says, our God is in the heavens. He hath done whatsoever he has pleased.
00:35:38
shane
You know, um that that idea that god God's in control. And i'm i all I know is I'm supposed to pray. You know, um yeah he does yeah it's like God's in control, and yet he tells us to pray.
00:35:49
dprice171
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:56
shane
And um somewhere in there is the answer. i don't feel like I have a very strong one in that. That to me is ah I trust God.
00:36:08
dprice171
yeah
00:36:08
shane
and then And I know I'm commanded to pray. And I know that when I do pray, i
00:36:18
shane
and my relationship with God is much just better.
00:36:26
dprice171
Yeah.
00:36:26
shane
You know, so not much of an answer, I know.
00:36:27
dprice171
and I agree.
00:36:29
shane
Sorry.
00:36:30
dprice171
No, I get that. and i And I would think, too, I think the way people would answer that would also... based off how they so based on how they see spiritual gifts, if they're more of a cessationist and they believe there's no more spiritual gifts or if they're more of a continuous, little bit more. I would i would think people who are a little bit more in that charismatic leaning side would give more credence to the spiritual realm along with gifts.
00:36:54
dprice171
Just in my experience, at least that's been the case. And then people who are a little bit more, maybe more reformed or maybe more
00:36:57
shane
Yeah, certainly.
00:37:01
dprice171
believing the gifts have ceased would give less credence and more profit, like the more providential, um, view of God and his will. Um, it's hard. Cause I do. I'm, I, again, I'm, I'm similar to you. i haven't really thought a whole lot about this or formed a whole lot of beliefs on this, which I think is okay. But you do see space like places in the Bible, like in the old Testament where, um, like even Moses, like,
00:37:27
dprice171
of it says he changed changing God's mind or that God remembered his you know covenant with Israel. And so you have to wonder is like, is that actually God changing his mind and actually remembering and like did because of what Moses said, or is that something else like that?
00:37:41
dprice171
We're not really aware of it because of the language there's, it's not quite how we're seeing it through our lens, but um it is interesting.
00:37:46
shane
Yeah.
00:37:48
shane
When we have like Abraham, he talks him out of destroying if he can find, know, so ah yeah, no, there's some level.
00:37:49
dprice171
And then like,
00:37:53
dprice171
yes, exactly.
00:37:58
shane
I mean, the Bible ah definitely leaves room for that. Right. And, um, yeah. again, you mentioned, you know, if you're a sensationalist or continuous and I, you know, I don't know if you want to get too far into all that, but, but, um,
00:38:13
shane
You know, definitely your theology on those things is going to affect it. um And i I guess I would say i land somewhere in the middle of there, um but i know I don't know exactly where.
00:38:22
dprice171
hu
00:38:25
dprice171
No, that's, that's fair. Um, moving forward. So Bruce, Bruce shared a lot of these stories of just different, not either whether it was biblical or just, um, other stories that he had heard or knew people or it had experienced, um,
00:38:42
dprice171
I got to be careful how i say this because I don't want to, I don't, I did not disbelieve Bruce, but I can see how a non-believer would hear some of these anecdotal stories and go,
00:38:54
dprice171
ah, so, so who cares? Like, ah you know, my aunt says this, or my, my friends told me this. And, you know, you hear people who have crazy stories that have done crazy acid trips or, you know, taking mushrooms and they've in the forest and they've, I'm not equating those two, by the way, I'm saying, um, but my point is, um, is it wise
00:39:10
shane
Yeah.
00:39:17
dprice171
And should we be should we disbelieve stories when we first hear them? Or should we believe stories like this? is it And is it unwise and and maybe like we're we're being a little bit too judgmental or too... What's what's the word?
00:39:32
dprice171
we're we're being a little bit too disbelieving about some of these stories. is it is is Is it good to be on one side or the other side or somewhere in the middle? like How do we discern through these stories when we hear... i guess my that's kind of the... This is a long question.
00:39:43
dprice171
But the the core of it, the crux of this is, how do we discern from all these anecdotal stories that we hear of what we're going to believe and give credence to versus what we don't? And are we at risk of just disbelieving everything and being like, well, nothing is...
00:39:57
dprice171
Nothing is spiritual. Like your aunt just had a bad apple or whatever, and her stomach was bothering her. And that's what she saw something, you know or she has schizophrenia. Like, what are we actually, what is our actual posture supposed to be towards some of these stories that we hear?
00:40:11
shane
Yeah, um that's you know a very interesting one I've been kind of on a journey on. I would say for the first 25 years of my Christian walk, I was definitely so um cynical about all of it.
00:40:26
shane
Yeah,
00:40:27
dprice171
That was the word we're going to use was cynical.
00:40:27
shane
um
00:40:28
dprice171
Good grief.
00:40:29
shane
yeah I was very much a disbeliever in any of the stories like that I heard. you know um Since then, I've become someone who would say, look, that's not my experience. and I'm not 100% convinced that that was what you believe it is.
00:40:56
shane
But I also am not going to discount it. I'm not because I have seen that God has done many things that that are not within the norm of my experience.
00:41:12
shane
So I'm not going to say that your experience was not God, but, but I will say you you really need to biblically look at it and,
00:41:17
dprice171
Okay.
00:41:25
dprice171
Yeah.
00:41:28
shane
And really kind of make sure there's some sort of backing for why God would have done it. I feel like, you know, because there again, i mean, you know, like Bruce pointed out, I think angels are, he said angels are mentioned 200 times in the Bible or something like that.
00:41:43
shane
um
00:41:43
dprice171
That's a bunch. Yeah.
00:41:45
shane
Yeah. So they're, you know, they're there. um But I will also say they're mentioned in spurts. um
00:41:54
dprice171
Hmm. Huh.
00:41:55
shane
You know, Like if you do a study, I haven't done a study in a long time, but you know, lots of angels mentioned around the birth of Jesus, lots of angels mentioned around, um i can't remember, there's but but there's some very specific like movements of God where you see the angels mentioned um in in bigger movements.
00:42:21
shane
You know, so so one side could say, Okay, if these were huge things, you know, like where it was just, you know, people were freaked out when they saw an angel, blah, blah, blah, then you could say, well, probably every time an angel appeared, it's it's recorded in the Bible, right?
00:42:41
dprice171
Yeah, right.
00:42:43
shane
Well, if it's recorded 200 times in 1600 years, eh, it's not that often. Right?
00:42:50
dprice171
Oh, whoa. Even longer longer than that.
00:42:51
shane
You know, if you're looking at it that way, you know, but you could say there's also, is it who, who, where is it?
00:42:52
dprice171
Yeah,
00:42:59
shane
Where I think it's Paul who says you could be entertaining angels unaware, you know?
00:43:03
dprice171
yeah. yeah
00:43:06
shane
And so if that's means what it says it means, I mean, maybe it is talking about the little blonde haired girl, you know, I, so, so, you know,
00:43:18
shane
that that's alluding to the sermon if you were listen to the sermon. So, yeah, that was a weird statement.
00:43:21
dprice171
Yeah, i you got to provide some clarification on that. Hmm.
00:43:28
dprice171
oh
00:43:29
shane
So, um you know, maybe that is. And so I'm much more now the person who says, look, I don't know. i know that we're to be open that God works not the ways we always expect him to.
00:43:46
shane
And outside of that, i can't really say for sure what what is and what isn't.
00:43:54
dprice171
Yeah. No, I get that. And again, that's what's hard is like if someone – I would never want to be the person that actually knows someone that had an experience where they did see an angel or did see something and then just completely deny it because of my cynicism.
00:44:13
dprice171
But it is hard. And also, you know again, it just happens to be a lot of lot of these ways where there's no way to prove it. like there's Sometimes I guess there is, and you see certain situations in the Bible where it's recorded pretty explicitly and lots of people saw.
00:44:21
shane
Yeah.
00:44:29
dprice171
But a lot of the time you know when I hear about these stories, it's like, well, I just i was there and I saw it. And it's like and no one else was really there and saw it. And it's like okay, well... Maybe, but again, it's for me, it's hard. And again, I have a little bit more of a cynical personality too.
00:44:40
shane
Yep.
00:44:41
dprice171
The verse you were talking about, by the way, is in Hebrews 13. um And it's Hebrews 13, chapter one, which again, you said, Paul, we don't know for sure.
00:44:48
shane
That's right.
00:44:50
dprice171
we Some people think at all.
00:44:51
shane
Yeah, have been Barnabas, could have been Apollos.
00:44:54
dprice171
Everybody says something different.
00:44:55
shane
Yeah.
00:44:56
dprice171
um But it says, let brotherly brotherly love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to to to strangers for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. So basically just alluding to you might've been hospitable and kind to somebody and realize not even realizing that I was an angel.
00:45:12
dprice171
And then news boys went and made an amazing song about it.
00:45:17
dprice171
Um, Some of you might get that joke. um
00:45:21
shane
Thank you.
00:45:22
dprice171
Anyways, that, this is a great little segue with the angels thing. um What about guardian angels? What, what's going on with that? Cause Bruce talked about that a little bit and I've had, so I've had a lot of people ask me about this and talk about this. Me and Hannah talked about this for a long time too.
00:45:36
dprice171
with With, with guardian angels, do you What do you think, biblically, do you think there are guardian angels? And then kind of a secondary like question with that is then what is their purpose? Because you know people fall away from faith. People don't get saved. People run into trouble. Right.
00:45:57
dprice171
obviously there's enough angels for there to be an angel, like an angel per person if needed. But do we see that in scripture? Because I mean, you do see times where angels are protecting people in scripture, but does that, is that just because they were there or ah is that like their angel?
00:46:11
dprice171
Like, what what do you think scripture points to with that?
00:46:15
shane
Well, I mean, Bruce pointed out in Acts 12, 15, where they they thought it was, they said about Peter at the door that it was, they thought it was his angel.
00:46:25
dprice171
Right. Oh, that's right. That's right.
00:46:30
shane
That is, um you know, to me you don't know, okay, is that proof that believers, New Testament believers believed that people had angels?
00:46:44
shane
Is it proof that some New Testament believers still held on to superstitions from the world? um
00:46:50
dprice171
OK.
00:46:51
shane
Is it proof? It's a proof of anything. Is it, you know, um that's about the only verse I can think of where we see anything alluding to that. um,
00:47:03
shane
you know I'm not saying it isn't and and or that Bruce was wrong, but I would lean towards that was probably more of a superstition of the people.
00:47:16
shane
hum
00:47:16
dprice171
OK.
00:47:17
shane
That would be my theology. um
00:47:18
dprice171
okay
00:47:19
shane
But that more rather than every person has like ah their own angel walking around with them, that one of the jobs of angels in general is to protect people
00:47:32
dprice171
Right.
00:47:33
shane
protect us. So, you know, yeah.
00:47:35
dprice171
And you see that everywhere in scripture. where like you mean You have hey Hagar, you have Elijah, it goes on and on and on.
00:47:37
shane
So when you, yeah.
00:47:44
dprice171
um
00:47:44
shane
Yeah. So that's what I, that's how I would see that.
00:47:46
dprice171
But
00:47:48
shane
I, I've never held to the idea of guardian angels.
00:47:53
dprice171
If someone was asking you about that and it was giving them comfort that there was angels watching out for them, is that something you would be like, eh, probably not? Or would you be like, yeah, maybe, but just maybe not one that has your name on it?
00:48:03
dprice171
Or what what would you say to them? If someone was like, oh, my garden angel was looking out for me, would you be would you just let that slide? or what what would you say?
00:48:08
shane
Yeah, i guess it depends on the context. I mean, if we're talking about just a normal situation and they're not freaking out about something, I'd probably, I'd probably challenge them little bit.
00:48:21
shane
If it's, um if it's, you know, a situation in a hospital and I'm trying to comfort for somebody or whatever, then I'm going to be a little bit more, you know, I let people slide just like I let people think their dog is,
00:48:37
shane
Might actually have a soul sometimes. but
00:48:41
dprice171
Oh, geez.
00:48:43
shane
when they're in the hot When they're worried about their dog dying, I don't challenge them. Like, well, did you think that cockroach that you stepped on last week that it had a soul too? Or...
00:48:52
dprice171
That's funny. No, I guess that's fair, too, because with the whole Garden Angel thing, I mean, if you're not putting too much credence into it, you had again, I would probably challenge someone on that, too, or at least question and talk through it with them, but I wouldn't.
00:49:06
dprice171
Someone was really was struggling.
00:49:06
shane
Yeah, I mean, it depends on the context. You know, i mean, there are some theologs theologies I don't think are detrimental, you know, so i don't I don't worry about it too much if it's the right situation.
00:49:15
dprice171
Yeah.
00:49:20
dprice171
No, that's fair. That's fair. Awesome. Well, but that's the questions that I had. That was was a great just talking through some of that stuff. Again, it's hard because It's really difficult when you have some of these situations about the spiritual realm and certain angels and this and that.
00:49:38
dprice171
There's just so little that's written about it in the Bible.
00:49:41
shane
Yeah.
00:49:41
dprice171
So it makes it so hard because, I mean, and I mean, you know this more than anybody, but there are just some fantastical worldviews that have been developed over... a couple verses, whether it's stuff about Satan or about demons or about angels.
00:49:57
dprice171
And I mean, people will take it and go to the furthest extremes to try to justify or, and I don't even know, if I don't know if it's imagination or what it is, but I mean, I'm sure you've heard some crazy stuff.
00:50:07
shane
I think it's fascination as much as it is imagined. You know what I mean? I mean, it is a fascinating topic.
00:50:13
dprice171
Yeah.
00:50:15
shane
um So it's easy to get caught up in. And um excuse me.
00:50:22
dprice171
No, you're good
00:50:22
shane
I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as it we're not like, like you say, getting like, I would say there's a little bit wrong with the like Frank Freddy thing. We're,
00:50:34
dprice171
Yeah, sure.
00:50:34
shane
well we We kind of try to make it sound like this is exactly what the Bible says about it. When the truth is, there's not even like really there's not like when you want to get into angels, there's really not even a passage that, you know, like most the ah things you're going to build a theology around.
00:50:42
dprice171
Right.
00:50:54
shane
a very solid theology, at least, there's there's descriptive passages that actually, like, say very specifically, hey, here's some doctrine on this.
00:50:57
dprice171
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:05
shane
Does that make sense? Most stuff around angels is a few verses that mention some things, that kind of thing.
00:51:06
dprice171
yeah
00:51:12
shane
And so we know it's there. We know God wants us to know that. We know it's something... amazing and and bigger than we'll ever understand fully.
00:51:24
shane
But I just think we've got to be careful before we build huge theologies on Yeah, yeah.
00:51:25
dprice171
yeah
00:51:30
dprice171
No, I would agree. And I did like how Bruce had some clarifications on some of those things, like how you turn into an angel when you die, which is not true. like that.
00:51:41
shane
Yeah, he clarified things that were important.
00:51:41
dprice171
That's a little bit in some caricatures that people think of angels, like little cherubs you know with their underwear, with shooting little arrows and playing harps and stuff.
00:51:48
shane
yeah
00:51:50
dprice171
It's like not ah quite. um
00:51:52
shane
Yeah.
00:51:53
dprice171
Anyways, but cool. Awesome. Well, I'm excited for next week to talk about the Armor God. That'll be interesting. I'm glad we're going to get backck in back in the swing of things. We should be pretty consistent with podcasts for the most part coming up here. And again, you know i say this a lot, but you know to the list for the listener's sake, we're we're doing this for a year at least. I'd love to continue if it's still working, but I'm still committed to that. So We keep chugging along. And i got some we got some other stuff potentially coming down the pipeline of different topics we're going to cover separate from this stuff. I'm trying to make some other. there's i have a couple ideas, and there's some other things I want to do.
00:52:32
dprice171
So yeah, it'll be exciting. And then also just having more guests on. It's been fun having, like my mom was on little while ago.
00:52:37
shane
Yeah, that one did really well.
00:52:38
dprice171
and
00:52:40
shane
And I like, yeah I mean, she brought some good insight on some stuff.
00:52:43
dprice171
Yeah, she was great. um And then, yeah, Nicole and Josh. And it's fun. I like having people on in addition. So just mixing it up is fun for you guys. But yeah, again, thanks for listening, guys.
00:52:55
dprice171
Please pass this on to your friends, all that stuff. Rate us. Review us, send us your criticisms and your concerns about our angel theology. Awesome.
00:53:06
shane
Yeah.
00:53:07
dprice171
I think we're done for the episode. is there anything else you wanted to add before we get into next week or anything that you want to just follow up on?
00:53:15
shane
No, just looking forward to being back. Hoping my voice is fully repaired by then.
00:53:19
dprice171
Yeah.
00:53:21
shane
um Honestly, this is little – I'm like, are you kidding me? Because i I've been doing good all week, but this is the longest I've just talked.
00:53:29
dprice171
yeah.
00:53:29
shane
I'm like, are are you serious? So, anyway.
00:53:31
dprice171
Yeah, not that that that is that is tough. So praying for you. hope Hopefully everything comes through and you're able to kind of get back in the swing of things. It's pretty dry here still. It's not not any better. So anyways, awesome.
00:53:42
shane
Yeah.
00:53:45
dprice171
All righty. Sounds good. Thanks for it listening, everyone. We will catch you guys next week. Bye-bye.
00:53:49
shane
All right.