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EPISODE 146: ROAD TRIPS ARE TERRIFYING!
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Pack your snacks, queue up the playlist, and buckle in—because not every road trip ends with a postcard. From creepy motels to highways to hell, summer travel gets a terrifying twist!
HORROR IN THE MOVIES
THE HITCHER will have you second-guessing every stranger, and THE HILLS HAVE EYES proves that some detours should be avoided at all costs.
WHATCHA BEEN WATCHIN’, BITCH?!
Listen in to hear what we’ve been watchin’... bitch!
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Introduction and Podcast Background
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Frygay the 13th Horror Podcast is a proud independent podcast. To learn more about the show, visit frygay13.com.
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Okay, we've got snacks, iced coffee, combos, Twizzlers, our perfectly curated playlist, and... Andrew, did did you pack the emergency sage in case we need to cleanse the shore house?
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Maddie, please. I brought sage, Palo Santo, and a lavender spray in case we drive through another haunted pit stop like last year. I'm not getting possessed at that rest area in Indiana again.
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Thank God. Lesbian gay shore, here we come. Finally! i need to cleanse my soul at that sacred glistening rainbow pier and scream into the ocean until my trauma evaporates.
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You know, that's literally the tagline on the brochure. In 666 meters, turn left onto Blood Gulch Road. Wait, what? That can't be right. i I mapped the scenic queer route.
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you You know, over the Melissa Etheridge overpass, past the Harvey Milk Ridge, and a quick one at the RuPaul Rest Stop. Did you use the regular GPS? Or the haunted one again?
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was I supposed to know it had a haunted mode? You have reached your final destination. Maddie, this is not Lesbian Shore. How did this happen? Time to die.
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Well, that's it, I guess. Do you think they have iced coffee in hell? You know what? I bet the gays in Wrong Turn didn't have to deal with this. Because they died, Maddie.
Episode Theme: Road Trips
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It's episode 146, Road Trips Are Terrifying. i am the writing on the wall, the whisperer.
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I'm Marjorie Greene and I approve this message to save America, Scott Socialism, and Scott China. Stay the time we honor thee from life to death to rise!
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Horror in real life. Doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong. Horror in the movies. Where are you gonna go? Where are you gonna run?
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Where are you gonna hide? Nowhere.
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I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. Sometimes that is better.
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Once when families did not travel in Tahoes or Tellurides.
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in that age before minivans and mandatory seatbelts roomy enough to hold as many as four children. The true symbol of middle-class swagger and awkward mobility was this. a new family-engineered station wagon.
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A vehicle that could transport suburban families not just to ball fields, carpools, and school plays, but to exotic locations, destinations of their dreams.
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Welcome back to another episode of Fry Gay, the 13th Horror Podcast. My name is Matthew. Maddie, how are you? And I am Andrew.
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Always. Never Andy. He's never Andy. It would be very weird if you were Andrew. Look, folks, welcome back to episode 146 our... of our um our little tiny podcast that is um that has been in production for nearly eight years at this point. So listen, if you have not listened to the 145 full-length episodes before this, Andrew, how many hours do you think that is?
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oh God. I don't want to think about it. Let's just move on. Is is that like... it it has to be It has to be at least 300 hours of content. Wouldn't you think? Oh,
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if If not more, it's two hours times 145. Exactly. So there's God knows how much. Listen, we are really proud to be bringing you our one hundred and forty sixth episode all about road trips and how terrifying they can be.
Summer Celebrations and Road Trip Jokes
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ah But if this is your first time on our podcast listening to us, this is the podcast that talks all about horror. horror in real life and in the movies from a queer perspective and we are happy to have you with us so look folks happy summer uh we are recording this on saturday july nineteenth um and we're happy to be with you and look it's it it is sort of road trip season right oh yeah this is when the weather should be mostly good right you're not worried about like ice on the road or snow or anything like that
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might be a little rainy, but you can deal with that. And it should be, you know, good weather where you are. Perfect time to go take that road trip around the beautiful countryside where you live and go see some cool stuff. And hopefully, you know, like not run into a serial killer at the rest stop.
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um And we've got two great films for you today. um That are all really about road trips got gone wrong when you think about it. The Hills Have Eyes and The Hitcher, which is, of course, The Hitcher from 2007 and not not the original.
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We thought it we thought it'd be fun to do like a an old one and a remake. Yeah. Like, you know, I completely agree with it. You know, what was funny with this one, too, Andrew, my ratings for both of them came out the same, um which is interesting because that's been happening a lot lately with a lot of the films that we've been doing for
Essential Road Trip Snacks
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me. I don i don't know why it just is.
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um But look, we'll talk about those when we get there. First off, Andrew, you on the worksheet for today's episode, you put something down that that I care about quite a bit. And that is the quintessential snacks for a road trip, like what you have to have in the car with you.
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um Sorry, it's it's you you have to go to a gas station yeah and you have to get in certain things. It's just it's it's it's the rules. I don't know how to I don't I didn't I didn't make them. You don't make them. We just follow them. You know, now I will say when I was last in America, Andrew,
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I got a bunch of my favorite road trip snacks because I can't get them here. And I was with my sister. We were in the store and I was like, you know what? This is the perfect time to get these because I know I'm going to go on at least one road trip this year.
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I'm so happy that I got them. Very, very pleased. So what would be... So so for me, h I have like three different categories. Go ahead.
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I have to have the the the the wet. So you have to get the the the drink. The wet. I love how it's not drink. It's wet. Yeah. And then there's the dry. Okay. And there are two different categories of dry. They're savory and sweet. Of course. Yeah, absolutely.
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And so for me... I have to have the Diet Coke. Okay. I got to get the Diet Coke. Wait, wait. So is it just straight Diet Coke? Is it Coke Zero? Is it a flavored Diet Coke? Like what's going on I like a straight Diet Coke if fountain, if available.
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Okay. So if it's not a fountain, is it a bottle or is it a can? Ooh, that's where it gets tricky. On a road trip, I got to do bottle, but in everyday life, it's a can. Okay, got it. Now, I've got one more question because, look, there's a lot of layers to this onion.
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Is it like a big bottle or is it like your normal size, like kind of like a handy bottle? No, like your little 20-ouncer. Okay, got it. Okay. Because I got to be able to reseal it. I got to hear that fizz every time. you know what I mean? Yep, I get it. And then for my dries, I got to go...
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Obviously, we've talked about this a lot on this podcast combos, a shared combo bag for the car is perfect because I'm not going to eat a whole combo bag to myself. But if I can get three to five combos, that's perfect.
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um And then for me, it's teriyaki beef jerky. Oh, I love beef jerky. um And then for my sweet, I'm either going to like, listen, this one varies because sweets have really progressed in these days. fair um These days I'm going towards a sweet tart rope.
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Oh, wow I don't know if you've had these sweet. I want one right now, though. That sounds amazing. They're very, very good. I've even had a lemon head rope. good Can you tell me what what that actually is? that like What is a sweet tart robe? Is it sweet tarts just like inside like a plastic thing? Is that was that what that is?
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So imagine like ah like ah like a licorice length of thing. Okay. um But it's got a gummy flavor with almost like a sweet tart cream inside of it. So so it's it's a gummy.
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Yes, it's a gummy. Interesting. that sound You know what? I would absolutely eat that for sure. but But back in the day, my go-to was Red Vines. Oh, yeah, yeah. you're You're a Red Vines person.
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Yes. Yes. What about you? um So, yeah, thinking about my my drinks, my savory, and my sweet. For drinks, i I have to have water, number one. like I have to have a a good supply of water in the car.
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um I drink a lot of water in the day. i just, like, I need to have a bunch of water. so like do you have but do you have ah Do you have a water preference? Because mine is Fiji. fiji I mean, it's it just it's honestly it depends on where I am.
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Right. So like, I mean, there's different kinds of water over here than what I'm used to in America. Right. All I'm trying to say is don't give me that Aquafina bullshit. No. ah it So Aquafina, Dasani, all like those kind of anything owned by Coke.
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I don't, I don't like, I mean, listen, I like Diet Coke, but I i don't need Coke doing my water. Do you know what mean? The water is gross. Yeah, it's it's not good. So like over here, if I can get a big Evian, I'll get one of those. Evian's good.
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love Evian. Or if I can get a big Volvic, V-O-L-V-I-C, that I think that's a really good one too. Smart water is also acceptable. Smart water is good. And there's, um... There's a couple, i can't think of the names of them.
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There's a couple more, like, it's it's like the same thing as smart water. Like, there's, like, extra electrolytes in them or whatever. And those are generally good, too. And then I like to put them into whatever, like, cup thing I have in my, you know, cup holder in the dashboard.
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Kind of, like like, now I've got this big, dumb Stanley thing. Which, to be honest, in the car works really well because it's got the straw and everything. Like, it's it's it's a pretty good cup. Yeah. You got to be careful with those straws. Make sure you're cleaning it.
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I know. Listen, I know it's probably the thing that's going to kill me. um And like when I bought this thing, you know, I bought it just to feel something. you know what I mean? That's how that's how numb I was back back when I bought this stupid Stanley for like 60 euro.
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um But honestly, for the car, it does rock. It's it's it's a great fucking cup. So have to have water. um But like you, I also love a good Diet Coke. If I can get like a vanilla Diet Coke, I'm all over that. Interesting. Like a black cherry Diet Coke kind of thing. Love that. So, so good.
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um And like every now and then, like a Sprite Zero or a 7-Up Zero, one of those two. That lemon-lined soda is my yeah jam. Damn. It's delicious. And if there's ever, it's it's rare over here, but if you can find a diet ginger ale, baby, I am all fucking over that. I love diet ginger ale.
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Okay, so those are drinks, right? Now, when it comes to savory snacks, you and i both share a love for combos. I fucking love combos.
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but Only in the car, though. Only in the car. Honestly, yeah, you're you're not wrong. Like, I mean, i've I've got combos here and Lord knows I love to get stoned and eat snacks. And listen, they are still in my pantry thing. So like I'm doing pretty good, right? So yeah I do like them mostly in the car.
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um But specifically, I like the cracker and cheddar cheddar cheese ones. That's just my favorite one. I'm a pepperoni pizza boy all the way. You like those. And so like like I said earlier, when I was in America, because those ones are really hard to find here. like Every now and then in the stores here, you might be able to find like a pretzel one with with pepperoni or you might be able to find. By the way, if you just heard it if you just heard a call.
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Did you hear that, Andrew? Were you able hear that? Okay, good. no listen you know set Listen, folks, we use our own personal computers for this. We don't have like whatever. And sometimes people call me during the podcast and I can't stop them. do you know what i mean?
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Anyways, back to this. ah You can sometimes find the pretzel ones here with like pepperoni or like that kind of thing. Pizzeria. And you know, like I love pretzels on their own, but pretzel combos have never been my thing. Anyways, me neither. let me go I'm a cracker boy. Exactly. So I got a bunch of those in America, brought them back with me.
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I also must have Twizzlers in the car. Love Twizzlers. They're just, I just fucking, I could eat them literally all fucking day long, which you should not do because they will tear you up inside.
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So I have to, I have to have those. Exactly. Have to have those. And like, you know, so sometimes i like some kind of like specialty kind of thing. Like if there's like a good cookie around, i don't mind having that in the car.
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If there's like this thing or that thing, I might get something special. But generally, I am basically Twizzlers, combos, water, Diet Coke. That's it. Perfect. Love it.
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yeah we just we dare We just spent a lot of time talking about road trip snacks. I love it. but It's important. This is important content. I mean, listen, like you when you're driving a long way, you want to have what you want to have because you don't want to stop too often.
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No, you know, you want to stop if you have to pee. But like, even then, like, can you hold it? Do you know what I mean? like here's Here's where I'm at. but Like if we are on like, let's say a four hour car trip, like yeah that's kind of the that's kind of the extent like that. Like that's where that's kind of where I draw the line. Like if it's over four hours, I'm like, ah maybe we fly like, I don't know. Or, or ah you know, if if it's like meant to be a longer road trip, like four hours and then you like stay the night somewhere.
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Right, exactly. um And so like I say, you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself. I agree. Car trips and go pee before you go, because listen, we're making one stop for snacks and that's it.
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Girl, like thank you. I'll tell you what. Back in the day when i used to do road trips with my ex-fiance, Andrew, you were on a couple of these. That person could not pee correctly. It was it was it was it was very bad. um And I I am like a camel. I can hold my pee. i I can do it in a car. If I get in a certain position, i can just lock it down. Yeah. And like, you know, if it's like an emergency, like, yeah, of course, I'll stop. But like, in general, yeah I think you and I both agree on this. Like, well we will hold it as long as we can, because it's sort of like the way that I walk around. Like, I walk like a gay person.
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Right. And what that means is that I need to get the fuck where I'm going quickly, get out of my way. We're efficient. can get there. Exactly. Exactly. So like, I don't need to stop and do all these things. I want to get where I'm going because generally where I'm going is going to be pretty good.
00:15:09
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you know what mean? Exactly. Listen, that's just that. Listen, now, Andrew, you and I have both been on a lot of road trips. We have been on road trips together.
Memorable Road Trip Stories
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Correct. And there are, of course, some road trips that are standouts. And I made a little list of the ones for me that that really stand out in my life.
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um And here, would you like to hear them? Yeah, I would love to hear them. Okay. So um when I was younger, we used to do these drives to South Carolina where my sister was living with her family.
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um And she lived in Greenville, South Carolina. I've actually never been to South Carolina. South Carolina south carolina is beautiful. you like if you um If you went to Charleston, I think you and Michael would really love it. Charleston is darling. It's so darling. The food is so good. And it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. There's a lot of you know Southern stuff. But you know if you can get over that, it's a really cool place.
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um But it used to be like me, ah my mom, my brother, Michael, and sometimes my sister, Katie. And we would all drive down. And it was beautiful, like, especially because like, you know, we were I was young. I'd never been anywhere like that before. And like, that was like my first time, like seeing mountains.
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It was really, really cool. Yeah, I remember that just like seeing mountains for the first time. And you're like saying to me. oh Whoa, whoa. um Another great trip, of course, was our trip on the East Coast for our 100th episode. and that was two years ago, right? 2023? Yes.
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um And ah we we all met in Salem, Massachusetts. We did this awesome road trip kind of all around that area. We went to Rhode Island. we went to Connecticut. We were, of course, in Massachusetts. to we go to that was Those were the only states, right? There was nothing else? We went to Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts. Right. Yeah. yeah So good. so So those three. We saw some really cool stuff. Did a like a little haunted tour.
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We were at the the original Conjuring house. We went and to to Newport to go see the all the crazy, beautiful homes. um We got a... Lizzie Borden house. Yeah, we went to the Lizzie Borden house. we we just We did some really cool stuff. That was a wonderful, beautiful trip. And we just had so much fun.
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you know And we only fought once. Exactly. Right. um Another great trip was when I flew from actually from London to San Francisco. And then in San Francisco, i I did some work stuff, got done.
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And then I took a like a little mini road trip to Napa on my own. I rented a convertible. And that was stunning. It was absolutely one of the most stunning days of my life.
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I will never forget going over the Golden Gate Bridge and just like, that's incredible. seriously just like i like broke down crying as i was driving because it was that beautiful it was yeah we went gorgeous we went a we we went to san francisco um god probably i don't know 10 years ago at this point a long time without yeah we took the ferry and uh we got picked up at like one of the things but on the way back we took the golden gate bridge at night and it was uh i couldn't like don't I don't really know how to express this to people, but there is something very special about the Golden Gate Bridge. like that if if If you ever are in San Francisco and you don't drive, i get like you know look at it, whatever, but like actually drive over it, you are in for a treat.
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It's stunning. It's incredible. It will stun you. um Another great one one of my, it it lives in my heart is Chicago to Montana. um This is back in 2013. And my friend John ah picked me up in Chicago. I was going through a rough time. And he he took me and and our friend James all the way to to Missoula, Montana, where they lived.
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um And it was awesome. Like we spent like a week doing it. And like we were just we were we were ridiculous. Like we camped in these beautiful places. We drank a bunch of beer and just like ah hung out. It was it was really, really cool that I just I've got great memories from that trip.
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um Another one is in Croatia. This was last year. i did my own little road trip from Split up to Imotski, where my family originates. um And ah the trip up there was gorgeous. But then the trip back to Split, I so i came down the mountain.
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And when you come down the mountain, you go through this big tunnel. And then all of a sudden, bam, you are right on the Adriatic Sea. And it like you seriously like you like Yelp.
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it's It's like that beautiful as soon as like you come out of that tunnel. It is fucking incredible. And then driving back all the way to Split. It was just like your jaw is open the entire time. It was it was really, really gorgeous.
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And then finally, the one that I most recently did was the Ring of Kerry here in Ireland. Only took me four years to do it living here. um But I finally got a car and a fucking license. I was able to. And the same friend that I went to Montana with, John, was visiting.
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um we spent a week on the Ring of Kerry and in the Dingle Peninsula. And I got to tell you, like all those other drives were really beautiful. This one, i cannot believe how beautiful it was.
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It was yeah like life altering beautiful. Like it's the the, the, the, the Kerry cliffs, the mountains, the gap of Dunlow, all these different things that you get to see. It just astounds you the entire time. It is.
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i cannot believe how beautiful this country is in general. Yeah. But that particular part of the country in the Southeast and County Kerry, holy motherfucking shit, it was beautiful. And the food down there is great. And the pubs are great. And we stayed in some of cool places.
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um We stayed on this island called Valencia Island, which was... not wicker man ish, which I was very happy for. but it was, it was really, really beautiful. We had a seaweed bath in this place called sneem. You get into a big barrel and they put hot water in it and seaweed.
00:21:01
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Um, and the seaweed like has all this like iodine and oil in it to like make your skin just feel amazing. And the iodine helps your muscles. It was so and like, you're looking at this beautiful bay as you're sitting there. was gorgeous.
00:21:11
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Um, and then in dingle, Oh my God, dingle, Dingle is absolutely, the name is ridiculous, but Dingle Town is so darling with amazing pubs, fantastic fucking seafood and the Sleigh Head Drive, which takes you all the way around the Dingle Peninsula.
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um And then it's it's the farthest west that you can go in Europe, actually. It is gorgeous. Just absolutely gorgeous. It was an incredible road trip. I'm really glad that John and I got to do it. And we had ah we had an amazing time.
00:21:42
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It was really cool. So those are my favorite trips. Andrew, what are some of yours? So I grew up kind of as like a road trip kid because um a majority of my life I had four step siblings. Well, I guess one half sibling, three step siblings. Sure.
00:21:59
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And so um it was a lot of where we were not rich enough to fly anywhere. I didn't get on a plane. Right. I didn't i didn't get on a plane until I was 14. 37.
00:22:13
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um And so like it was a lot of like road trips up to the upper peninsula. Like a lot of a lot of my road trips are in and around kind of the Midwest. And then.
00:22:25
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The ones I always remember, not because they were good, but because they were them, were the trips down to Florida. Oh, Jesus Christ almighty. And we we had... Were you in a big van when you did Yes, of course. We had an Aerostar van. it was an Aerostar, yep.
00:22:41
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It had no air conditioning, and so... Andrew, was it one of those that had a ladder on the back? Um, no, it didn't have a ladder. No, no. Um, because it also had those pop out windows.
00:22:56
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So not even putting the windows down and no air conditioning. And we would usually take the middle seat out to accommodate coolers. And my little brothers would sit on the coolers, not on an actual seat. That's so good. Oh my God.
00:23:13
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And so that's what I remember about like road trips is just like suffering and dying like and eating like weird like waterlogged sandwiches out of a cooler. and by the Sitting on a cooler all the way to Florida from Michigan.
00:23:30
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Yeah. yep Holy shit. My God. So that's kind of what my memories of like road trips of like that age, but like, like nowadays, like I, I mean, living in Chicago, we have to travel to see anybody like yeah yeah anybody that we know either lives in Michigan or God, now it's just Michigan. Everyone lives in Michigan except for that, that we can drive to at least. Yeah. Um,
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But, you know, we'll take annual trips up to Traverse City. It's really lovely up there. It's where I grew up. um It's really fun to go back and see how much it's changed. Yeah, sure. um Just because like when when i when I lived in Traverse City like way back in the day and and people now know Traverse City as kind of like a haven for like...
00:24:15
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uh, for vacationing and rich people and wine and all that stuff. But when I lived up there, it was like poor town. Like it was not like it is now. Like we, we had the luxury of the bay and we would go to the beach and stuff, but like we were not rich people. We lived in a trailer park for God's sake. So like, um, the way that it's treated now. And when I mentioned it to people, arere like Oh my God, that must've awesome childhood. I was like, um,
00:24:43
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Yeah, sure. But yes, thank you. um But yeah, road trips, like it's different now because I mean, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to brag about us, but yeah money. yeah Yeah, we have a little bit more money. Like we have a little bit like nicer vehicles. Like it's just a much more of a luxury now nowadays. 100 percent. It's like when I was getting ready for for the trip of John, um you know, like it's.
00:25:08
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and I had to plan it. And, and when when you're doing ring of carry, like every, like so many people have done this trip before and everyone that has done it has their own way of doing it. And every, everyone that I have asked about this, everyone's got a fucking opinion.
00:25:22
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You know what mean? And so like everyone's telling you, got to do this. You got to do this. You got to do this. you gotta And I've, it was so overwhelming. And like, you know me well enough. I'm a planner. I like, I, when I go somewhere, I want to know where I'm going. I want to know what time I'm going to be there. I want to know what we're doing. And I want to know how much it's going to spend. You know what i mean Oh, you you remember the Google document that I made for our 100th episode. Yeah, exactly. I mean, like that that stuff like matters to me. And so like for this trip of John, like it I was very surprised. I didn't book anything until like two days before he got there.
00:25:55
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And that is very unlike me, but I was honestly overwhelmed by how many choices that I had for the way to do this. And like, it it was and like, once again, I'm not trying to brag either or be weird about it, but you know, ah now I very much operate from like an abundance mindset, but like most of my life has been from a poverty mindset.
00:26:15
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And so like when I was booking hotels and booking stuff to do, I was like, uh, can we afford this? And then I'm like, yeah, actually we can afford whatever the fuck we want. So let's go fucking do it. And like, and it was, it was really wonderful. And like, once a again, I'm not trying to be weird, but like it it was, it was a good moment in my life remembering everywhere that I've been and all the things that I've had to go through to get where I am now. And I bet you probably feel the same way that like, yeah, I was like, Hey, we're going to actually stay at this really fucking nice spa in Dingle for two days.
00:26:44
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And guess what? We can both afford it And we're going to go do this thing and it's going to be fine. And we're going to go to dinner here and it's going to be good. And so, yeah, like road trips now are very different than they used to be. That's for fucking sure.
00:26:55
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And you know what? It's fucking cool because I work my fucking ass off for it. So frankly, they better be good. The other thing that I'll tell you is this, is that that particular road trip, one of the things that I love about it is that it's the first vacation away from work where I did not check in on work at all.
00:27:14
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Good. I have not had that in a very, I mean, I haven't had that in like over five years and it felt wonderful and I designed it that way on purpose. So that was really good.
00:27:25
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So listen, really cool road trips. Andrew, a couple other things that you and I have to talk about is just sort of thinking about what other people's experiences of road trips have been before too.
Travel Challenges: Past and Present
00:27:37
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And one thing that came to mind for me when it came to thinking about what to talk about for this episode was thinking about the green book. Have you ever heard of this before? Yeah, I know of the movie. And then um what was the show that was on HBO for one season? They talked about this. in um Was it talked about in The Watchmen?
00:28:00
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No, it was talked about that one season of that one show where I want to be yelling at their microphones. Whatever. But we'll we'll figure it out later. As usual, someone someone in their car right now is yelling it, as as you just said.
00:28:13
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um But the Green Book, if you don't know what this is, it's a really important part of American history. And um if you want to read a good article about it, there's an article on Newsweek called How the Green Book Saved Black Lives on the Road.
00:28:25
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But listen, there's a bunch of stuff everywhere about this. um And so this was really during the period of segregation in the U.S. I'm not entirely sure that that period is over, but whatever. um You know, black Americans back then, and they still face real danger now in places, don't get me wrong.
00:28:41
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But back then, it really was very different. And there were there were still sundown towns and there were places where you really could not go because you would get killed or hurt very, very badly.
00:28:54
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And so there was a book that was created by Victor Hugo Green. He was a black postal worker from Harlem. And that book called the green book became a vital resource for safe travel listing businesses and services that would accept black customers.
00:29:11
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It was a lifeline in a system built to deny black people, mobility, dignity, and safety. And listen, segregation was not just a Southern thing from New York to California, racism shaped where black people could eat, where they could sleep, where they could use the bathroom and where they could get gas.
00:29:29
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Black travelers were routinely refused service. They were harassed or even worse. They would have police stops. They would have verbal abuse and even physical violence. um It was constant threat for them, especially in the sundown towns, as I mentioned earlier, where black people had to leave before dark or they could be lynched.
00:29:48
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So road trips for for Black people in America during that period, they required extensive planning. Families had to carry their own fuel food. They had to carry their own fuel um and sometimes even portable toilets to avoid unwelcoming or dangerous stops.
00:30:04
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um It was first published in 1936. It was inspired by a Jewish travel guide that listed safe places during a time of anti-Semitic discrimination. um It began as a New York-only guide.
00:30:17
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Yeah. so by the nineteen forty s it covered the entire u s parts of canada mexico and even the caribbean um the book relied on word of mouth recommendations from black postal workers and travelers i think that's so cool um and it's primemate featured thousands of listings hotels restaurants gas stations even private homes One Esso, which is now Exxon um executive, who was who was Black, he encouraged Esso dealers to carry the guide, and the company supported it more than others.
00:30:50
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That's awesome. It really is cool. um The Green Book really became sort of like a symbol of community survival and empowerment. It gave Black travelers not just information, but hope.
00:31:01
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You could go, you could move, and you weren't entirely alone. So in this way, it also became a symbol of quiet resistance to a system meant to keep people still and afraid.
00:31:12
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um The guy who wrote it, Green, ah he himself wrote that the guide would eventually become unnecessary, and he said, there will be a day in the near future when this guide will not have to be published. And that day came in part with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which banned segregation in public accommodations.
00:31:30
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And the final edition of the Green Book was published in 1966. So it was around for about 30 years. um Its message still resonates. um And in ah an era of travel apps and open highways, not all travelers experience the road equally.
00:31:46
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And travel remains political, especially for marginalized communities. And, you know, like, Andrew, you and I have talked before about being gay and traveling. Mm-hmm. And I do know that like when I choose somewhere to go for for whatever trip I'm going on, no matter what time of year it is, even if I'm in Europe, or you know, wherever it might be that I'm that I'm headed, i always look up like, is it safe for gay travelers?
00:32:07
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um I look up like, you know, is there a gay bar there? Like, obviously, I want to if there is, I want to go check it out and like be around other gay people. um And like I just kind of like get the idea of like you know like where can I go?
00:32:18
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you know i mentioned Croatia earlier. like Look, I love Croatia. My family is Croatian. I'm wearing literally a Croatian jersey right now as I as i record this podcast. um I love being being Croatian.
00:32:30
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But like guess what? Croatia is beautiful and cool. It's still not that great for gay people. like You have to be very careful there. And like you know when I went to Split, I knew what the gay bars were. i knew what restaurants were going to be friendly for gay people.
00:32:43
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Same thing for Dubrovnik when I was recently there. But then you know earlier I mentioned Emotski, where my family originates. That's not a safe place for gay people, not going to lie. And so the first time that I went there, I didn't stop anywhere but the cemetery because I wanted to see my family's graves.
00:33:00
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But I wasn't going to go talk to people. I didn't want people to get the wrong idea about me. I didn't want them to hear the way that I speak or the way that I you know have mannerisms and get Get weird about it. And then like I'm off on my own in the middle of fucking nowhere, wondering about what's going to happen to me, you know. um But, you know, this last year when I was there with my sister, i felt a little bit more comfortable because I, you know, i wasn't just on my own.
00:33:25
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you know, that's the thing. It's like, yeah, this stuff is like from from yesteryear in some ways, but like you still got to be really careful about it. Yeah. ah And sorry, i looked to this up. It was Lovecraft Country is the show I was thinking of. Yeah, that's it. Right. Yeah. um No, I totally understand. and like, and listen,
00:33:45
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i I don't understand and I never will understand like the hate for anybody unless you are harming someone. Yeah. and like in the state of the U.S. right now with immigration and everything, i it is so disheartening to see us roll back together.
00:34:07
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so far in so little time. oh gross. And I, I, and it breaks my heart. I don't know. I, I thought that we were moving towards a United States.
00:34:21
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Um, and we're just getting more and more separated and it sucks, but it's gross. Yeah. But when you talk about things like Green Book and what it and when why they needed that and everything, it just makes my heart break.
00:34:33
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Yeah, it it's it's terrible. And then, yeah and you know, as you just said there, what what you thought we were moving toward, I think in a lot of ways, we're probably moving back towards a little bit of of what we just talked about there.
00:34:44
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No, if I did. If I was an immigrant, I wouldn't go on a road trip right now. Hell no. i wouldn't i wouldn't I wouldn't move from where I was, quite frankly. Yeah. All right. Should we talk about the highways? Sure, please.
00:34:59
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And how dangerous the highways are. They are dangerous. It's true. Because take take your average, um I don't know, take your average office building and and ah and see all your coworkers.
00:35:15
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And imagine them all behind the wheel of a death machine, which is a car. And how they act in the office and how they act in a car. Because I have seen some shit out there on those highways. And listen, these are the five most dangerous highways.
00:35:36
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In 2023, approximately 40,901 people died in motor vehicle crashes in the United States.
Highway Dangers and True Crime
00:35:44
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That translates to about 12.2 deaths per people and deaths per million
00:35:54
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do you want to know the five most dangerous highways ah yes please Okay, and coming in at number five, I-35, which stretches from Laredo, Texas, near the Mexican border, to Duluth, Minnesota.
00:36:07
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So going straight up the middle of the U.S. of A. um It really is just ah kind of... There's a lot of... Listen, you're going to hear a lot of this in this list.
00:36:18
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It's because of a lot of truckers and a lot of 18-wheelers, which really just like makes things really complicated. I think that... We know um just between you and me, those road trips down to Indianapolis with all those damn trucks that go down. So many trucks. My fucking God.
00:36:36
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Makes everything so much more complicated. Coming in it at number four, I-75, which starting north, south, starting at the Great Lakes and ending nearly at the southern tip of Florida.
00:36:50
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So probably what I drove on as a kid. Yeah. Midwestern sections of the interstate, particularly in Michigan, are dangerous during the winter months when roads are icy or heavy with snow.
00:37:01
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Listen, we didn't even talk about the winter months trying to take a road trip because we didn't but because it's awful. I mean, yeah, like who who wants to go on like icy roads like that's that's not fun.
00:37:13
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Yeah. All right. Coming in at number three is I-5. I-5 in 2019 was the third most dangerous road in the United States. It runs 1,381 miles parallel to the Pacific Coast.
00:37:29
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The interstate runs through several major California counties, including Sacramento, Los Angeles, and most the deadliest area, California. San Diego County is also a popular highway for 18 wheelers to drive on making it one more dangerous for automobile drivers. So once again, you're going to hear this a lot.
00:37:48
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18 wheelers, these huge trucks makes it hard to navigate. um Number two comes in I-20. I-20 is one of the shorter highways on the list, but it also quite dangerous.
00:38:00
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Beginning in West Texas, continuing through South Carolina, I-20 runs through several high traffic areas, including Dallas, Texas, Jackson, Mississippi, and Atlanta, Georgia.
00:38:11
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And if you've ever, ever had the displeasure of driving through Atlanta, Georgia... Yeah. Hot Lana. Hot Lana. Have you ever driven through Atlanta? It is.
00:38:22
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Yes. It's it's terrible. it adapt but and Well, I mean, Atlanta is just it's just so busy. Like it is a very busy fucking place. Yeah. Well, and they don't have any public transit. Exactly. that Right. Yeah.
00:38:34
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yeah All right. And then coming in at number one is I-95. ninety five oh boy. I-95 is the most dangerous highway in the United States. In 2019, it had the highest number of overall fatalities, 284 fact.
00:38:50
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Um, and many of those accidents occurred on the Northeast in the winter when road conditions were far from ideal. A large portion of accidents also occurred on the East coast of Florida in Jacksonville, party town, USA and Brevard County, which is outside of Orlando. So if you don't know, I 95, it stretches through the East coast. So some of the worst weather, and unpredictable weather you will ever encounter nasty.
00:39:17
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Um, let's finish this up with one serial killer because, yeah, uh, this wouldn't be a fraggy the 13th without talking about some deadly, ah people.
00:39:31
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All This ah the moniker. The rest area killer is commonly associated with Donald Leroy Evans, an American serial killer active between 1970 in 1991. Yes, you heard that correctly. years of carnage and never caught until nineteen ninety one japanese jesus bad but police were back then And maybe our today. And now.
00:40:01
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all right. His crimes. Evans is suspected of killing more than 15 people, mainly women at rest stops and parks across the 20 U.S. states.
00:40:12
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I don't know how if you've ever had the displeasure of stopping at a rest area or a welcome center when you get to a new state. Oh, sure. ah But these are not the best places. And if I ever died at one I might curse the world for real.
00:40:30
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um So he confessed to over 60 murders. Some reports even say up to 72. um But authorities could not confirm most of these claims, mostly because if you think about the time of this 1970 to know,
00:40:45
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you know ah fingerprinting was just becoming a thing. um like we just didn't have like blood splatter experts and, you know, it was CSI and like all that stuff. So, um, but authorities could not confirm most of these claims. He later admitted to that some were false. So he's even hit himself even like says that he's a liar.
00:41:08
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Um, investigators connected them to the 1985 murders of Ira Jean Smith and Janet Movich in Florida. um He was arrested after showing the police the body of a 10-year-old Beatrice Routh. Jesus Christ. Who was kidnapped, raped, and strangled. Thank God. He pleaded guilty to the murder ah of Beatrice. Don't worry, this guy gets his comeuppance.
00:41:30
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um is yeah He pled guilty to the murder of Beatrice Routh and received the death sentence in Mississippi in 1993 and an additional life sentence for the murder of Ira Jean Smith in Florida in 1995. So think about this.
00:41:43
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This guy, he He has suspected of committing 15 murders. He's admitted to 60, but he only got convicted of two. My God.
00:41:56
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That's insane. Jeez. Thankfully, he died in 1999 when he was stabbed to death by other inmates while awaiting the death penalty. I'm um i'm okay with that.
00:42:08
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I'm okay with that. Listen, if you... There are a lot of crimes that I'm like, oh, well, that was an accident. You know, like we can forgive that. We can like pay penance and like move on. Like I'm i'm totally about that. But a 10 year old, you know you're but you're done. Yeah, it's like murder.
00:42:28
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no girl, you either going and you're either going to prison for the rest of your life and rotting or you're going to die. like well and And also, if you fucking rape and kill a 10-year-old, you deserve to like actually not just be stabbed. like We should actually burn you at the stake.
00:42:43
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i I feel kind of okay with that. um And that's as liberal as I am. and I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but if you can rot in a cell only eating only saltine crackers for the rest of your life, then and you know that's what you get.
00:42:59
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let it Let the fucker burn. Let him burn. Well, listen, Andrew, great little chat about road trips. Makes me want to go on another one right now, kind of. um But listen, we can't because we have more of a podcast. things to do now.
00:43:14
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So listen, we're going to move on from this segment and we'll be right back with... What you been watching, bitch?
00:43:34
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And we're back with what you've been watching, bitch. What you've been watching, you combo-eating bitch. that's ro That was a good one. So listen, ah folks, this is the segment where Andrew and I talk about what we've been watching. So Andrew, tell me, what's the first thing that you've been watching?
00:43:52
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My first one is on Amazon Prime. it is wear whatever the F you want. Sure, no problem. And I don't know if you were back in the day were a fan of um what not to wear.
00:44:07
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I remember that. Yeah, sure. Carson Kressley and um I can't think of her name right now. Sure. um But they basically had a show on TLC. God, 15 years ago at this point, probably where they would just like tell people how shitty their style was and like basically make do a makeover.
00:44:24
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And this is like a new version of that, but it's so much more empowering because what they do is they invite people to come on and they say like, all right, what do you want?
00:44:35
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Like if you had an ideal style, what would it be like? in Hands down, like no budget, no nothing. Like what would it be? And they tell them and then they handpick an entire room of clothes. Oh, my God.
00:44:50
Speaker
That is all their size. So it's custom. It's a custom shop. It's all their size. they Sign me up right away. please And they go through it and they pick out their favorite outfit.
00:45:02
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And then they go test this outfit out in like a public setting. Like they go to like a party or they go to like a. Or like a comedy club or like whatever. And then they come back and they say like, okay, so I kind of felt you know this way after I was out in a public setting. And then they refine their aesthetic after that.
00:45:21
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And listen, I think that this is a much healthier version of the show was – Maybe a little bit demeaning back in the day. um Because back in the day, it was like, we'll throw out all your clothes and like this sucks. yeah like and so like and and it's And it's fun because like the two hosts that were what not to wear, they kind of went through a falling out.
00:45:44
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And this is them coming kind kind of coming back together and like becoming friends again. and like Nice. I don't know. There's something really wholesome about it. And, you know, there's an episode with a transgender person where that was really touching.
00:45:56
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And so I just really recommend the show. i don't hear a lot of people talking about it. And so, like, I would definitely recommend wear whatever the F you want. I heard Andrew tearing up right there. Sorry. No, it's good.
00:46:09
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um Listen, I think that's great. I think we need more wholesome things. I'll be honest. I'm i'm tired of mean things. um But speaking of mean things, I finally got to see Sinners. oh oh Yes. And it was wonderful. It's great. I really enjoyed Sinners. It it was it was really good. um i i missed it in theaters, unfortunately, because i just it was just one of those things. It just happens.
00:46:32
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Movie of the year so far for me. But it was it was really, really good. Absolutely enjoyed it. And it was fun. um So, yeah, listen, I i don't even... it that you You've all probably already seen it. You know what it's about.
00:46:44
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Sexy's scary. Exactly. It was really good. it um And I really enjoyed a Buddy Guy being in this movie. Um, little buddy guy lore for you. Buddy guy was at a family wedding, actually.
00:46:57
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Um, so I have met buddy guy before and it was crazy to see him in this, in this movie too. I did not expect that. Um, so if you haven't seen sinners yet, look, no matter if you can see it in the theater, great.
00:47:11
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But if you can't even watching it at home, which to what I did, I had a great time with it, but lovely movie, a lot of fun. It's sinners. Here in the US, it is now on HBO. Nice. Oh, that's good.
00:47:22
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Whatever it's called now. I don't even know what to call it anymore. All right. My next one is the new show on Netflix called Too Much. Have you heard this? Not yet.
00:47:32
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So this is Lena Dunham's new show. Oh, God. This is kind of the, ah it's kind of the grown up girls. Oh God. Oh God.
00:47:44
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um So it stars ah Megan Stalter, which you know, which I love her. love Yeah. Which you know from hacks. Yeah. um It also stars Will Sharp, which okay is yeah the guy from um White Lotus Season 2 who played the boyfriend.
00:48:01
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yeah um And it's basically about this girl who has grown up a New Jersey New Yorker. And she went through a very tumultuous relationship and got broken up with. And she's not handling it well. And what does she do?
00:48:15
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She ups and moves to London. God. ah And it's just about her acclimating to London in kind of the Lena Dunham fashion. Like, I don't know how else to explain this to you, but you you know what I mean. So too much is ah is an apt name in that case.
00:48:30
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So I think that it's kind of a play on itself because you're meant to think that like she's too much, but almost is life too much? You know what I mean? um I think it's hilarious. I think Megan Stalter is...
00:48:46
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I love Meg Salter. She's so funny. Like, I i think she i think if she could sell me on anything, if I'm being honest. um if you're If you're not the biggest Lena Dunham fan, which I understand, i i still... Listen, I had many, many seasons where I would tune in on Sunday night for girls.
00:49:06
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And, like, I can't take that away from her. Like, she gave me a lot of ah lot of entertainment. For sure. Listen, was that last episode not the best choice? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:17
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But the episode before that, perfection. So I can't really say anything. Yeah, I think it's tough because Lena Dunham at that time, like when when yeah but i I like you, I loved girls up until the final season.
00:49:31
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And the final season was up and down, but it was mostly down. And there were there were choices that were made that were perfect. truly fucking ridiculous. And, and then Lena Dunham also just got, she just got fucking weird.
00:49:44
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Like she just got fucking strange and said a bunch of weird shit and acted like a fucking weirdo. And like she, and like on the app name here, she just got to be too much. And like, honestly, ah I'm, I'm, I'm reticent to go into anything that bears her name again, but like,
00:50:03
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I do love Meg Stalter. I love her. i i think that you like I think that you will like this. Yeah. I mean, i mean but listen, if it has Meg Stalter in it, then I'll then i'll watch it. um It's just, I'm going to go in with um a little trepidation is what I would say. But and but i'm I'm glad to hear that you like it though. That that that that is a good sign.
00:50:20
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I think that her writing is the best thing that she can do. And I think that maybe that's where she should leave it. And just stay out of it. Yeah.
00:50:31
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And so like, listen, I think the show's great. I really like it. Um, I've had a couple of other shows, ah in this year that have usurped it so far, but, um, some of the shows that I've talked about on here, like adults and, um,
00:50:45
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some other ones. Um, but I think that this is a, it's a good addition to Netflix because Netflix has had a doldrum of doldrums for a while now because they've been stuck in the reality show like area for a long time. And so it's nice to see that they're that propping up actual like narratives again. And so I, I think too much is pretty fun.
00:51:10
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So I would recommend it. ah My next one is just sort of a comfort watch. Just wanted to watch it again. it is Interstellar. um One of my favorite films of all time. It's Christopher Nolan back from 2014, way back in the day, 11 years ago now, with Matthew McConaughey and Anne Hathaway and Michael Caine and Jessica Chastain and Casey Affleck and Ellen Burstyn and Wes Bentley and John Lithgow and Timothy. I mean, just go on and on, right?
00:51:35
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There's so many fucking people in this movie. um And it was great. Again, i mean i've seen this movie so many fucking times. um But every now and then i just get the hankering for it. I really do.
00:51:45
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And this is just a couple nights ago. I was i was at home. It was very, very fucking long week at work and um not bad. Just ah ah just a lot. And sometimes when, when it's a lot, I just, I like yearn to watch interstellar. Like it takes me away for a couple of hours and it's just, it's really pretty. I really admire it.
00:52:06
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So it was lovely to watch again. If you haven't watched it in a long time and you and you like, if you don't like it, then don't watch it. But like, if it's one that you like like, I really recommend going back to it. It's like I said, for me, it's definitely, it's, it's, it's a comfort watch. It it makes me feel good.
00:52:21
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Um, And it did again. And I really appreciated that. So I just wanted to mention it. It's interstellar. I love that for you. All right. My next one is drop, um which is now on Peacock. I, I have this curse.
00:52:38
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I literally rented this movie the weekend before it went to Peacock. So this always happens to us. We're like, we finally like break down and annoying and rent it for like a dollar 99 or whatever. And then all of a sudden it's free the next weekend. And I'm like, God damn it.
00:52:53
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But anyway, drop. I don't know. Have you heard about this movie? No. um So this is a movie about a woman who is a single mother and she goes on a date with like a new guy who she met on a dating app.
00:53:08
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And she's at dinner at like this fancy restaurant in Chicago, by the way. um um and ah all of a sudden she gets this thing on her phone that says someone dropped you a message, like dropped you like a, you know what I mean? Like a yeah.
00:53:24
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Yeah. And um it says like, you know, it keeps giving her commands and she's like, what are you like? What do you do? And then all of a sudden it you need to kill the person you're on a date with. Otherwise, otherwise we're going to kill your child. And it shows her like cameras at home and there's like a burglar in her in her house. What? And so it all plays out from there.
00:53:45
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And you learn a lot more. There's obviously a lot of layers happening, but that's kind of the the premise. um The reason I was so excited to watch this is because Christopher Landon, who is a Happy Death Day and a lot of these movies lately, had a hand in this. um i think he I think he was co-writer on it, if I remember correctly. But this is just a fun movie it it is definitely reminds me of red eye for sure okay that movie uh that we reviewed back in the day where she was on the plane um but it's got those kind of vibes like it's got like late 90s early 2000s vibes but it's also like very updated with like modern technology and like how they show the messages on the screen is really unique and i don't know i just thought it was a really fun movie and it kind of got passed over um just because it came out in like the the doldrums of of uh spring sure when nobody's really going to the movies and and i i think that if you didn't see this definitely like either rent it or go on peacock if you have the subscription and give it a watch because it was a just honestly is it a great movie no but is it a fun movie absolutely
00:54:53
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so Okay, cool. um My next one, just saw this last night, is called Harvest. I don't know this. If you are a horror fan, it is likely being marketed to you on social media.
00:55:09
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um It's a MUBI film, M-U-B-I. Okay. If you subscribe to movie but like the movie of the week ticket, like I think it's next week's ticket that you can go see it for free.
00:55:21
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um or it's part of your subscription. Harvest is a film that takes place in Scotland. um It is probably like, I would say like late 19th century kind of thing, maybe a little bit earlier than that. um And i'll I'll just read you the the little plot thing.
00:55:44
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Over seven hallucinatory days, a village with no name and an undefined time and place, although it is in Scotland, by the way, uh, disappears. That's not really what happens in Sangari's tragic comic take on a Western. Not really townsman turned farmer, Walter thirst and the fuddled Lord of the manor, Charles Kent, our childhood friends about to face an invasion from the outside world, the trauma of modernity.
00:56:11
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um the walter thirst character is played by caleb landry jones if that doesn't sound familiar he was the brother in get out remember that um and the other guy uh i kind of hate that guy actually yeah i've got a lot to say the other guy is harry melling if that doesn't sound familiar he was dudley dursley in the harry potter films right and he's been playing a lot of stuff since harry potter Now, this movie is getting really good. It's getting it's getting it's getting two kinds of reviews. Either people fucking love it or they fucking hate it. And I got some news for you.
00:56:44
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i fucking hated it. It was 100. And you know me, like i when it comes to long movies, I don't mind that when it comes to movies that don't give you an answer. I don't mind that when it comes to really beautiful movies, kind of more focused on cinematography and sets. I don't mind that either.
00:57:00
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This one drove me fucking insane. It's 133 minutes long that I will never get back in my life, unfortunately. Went to the cinema last night to see It started at like 8.20, and so it didn't really start until like, you know, 8.45 or whatever.
00:57:14
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And fucking, it's so boring. It's so incredibly boring. It takes place in Scotland once again. Why you didn't just hire Scottish actors to play those roles is mind blowing to me.
00:57:29
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Why would you hire Caleb Landry Jones, who, by the way, is an American, although he pretends to be everything else but with his stupid accent because he's always got some weird accent going on.
00:57:40
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i I don't like that actor. I'm sorry. And once again, he has a weird accent here. Like, well, I love get out. I think get out is a horror masterpiece. Yeah. He's the weakest part it. The worst part of it is Caleb Landry Jones.
00:57:53
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He does this weird voice thing. And, and what, what I, what I often say about it is that like, it's almost like the voice that he's trying to do in get out is Brad Pitt in, in, um in fight club. if If that makes any sense,
00:58:09
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It does to me because he's putting it on. It's, it is so inauthentic. It doesn't make any sense. And like in this one, he's trying to the point where I was like, wait a minute, is he Scottish?
00:58:23
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And then I'm listening because like, look, I know a bunch of Scottish people living over here now. And I'm like, y'all motherfucker ain't Scottish. You ain't shit, motherfucker. That is not a Scottish accent right now. and then And then you've got fucking Harry Melling also like trying to be Scottish, and he's not.
00:58:38
Speaker
And it just didn't make any sense. the the The problem with the movie is that like and And also, like during the film, people got up and walked out last night. Oh, no. And I was thinking to myself, oh I could join them right now, but like what if the last 20 minutes is like actually where it comes together?
00:58:55
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It didn't. But it's one of those films where you're waiting and waiting and waiting for it to come together. like Something big to happen. like The thing to occur. And it just doesn't.
00:59:06
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it just doesn't. And like this is one of those navel-gazing... like grad school films that's just so in love with itself that it doesn't go anywhere.
00:59:17
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And like, yeah, listen, a bunch of stuff happens in it. And don't get me wrong. There are some good parts in this movie and there are some good actors, by the way, but you don't have to defend it Well, no, no. But that's the thing is that I'm really not like like there are some like good little bits of it where I'm like, why didn't you continue on that vein? Why didn't you do this? why Why did you have to just fall in love with yourself as a filmmaker and what how pretty you could make it?
00:59:41
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Instead of like creating a film where we could actually understand what the fuck was going on. Because you leave this movie wondering what actually was this all for? like yeah Like you can understand the plot. That's not hard to get.
00:59:53
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But you walk out going, why? Why? Like what's the point of this? Like what is actually the point of this? And you don't really know. So like whatever that I read you, the little plot summary from letterboxd.
01:00:05
Speaker
I think that's stupid. I just, I think it's done. I just don't think it's a good movie. i i I walked out pretty upset about it, to be honest. That's harvest. I do not recommend seeing it. I'll be very, very clear about that.
01:00:16
Speaker
Well, I will take your recommendation on that one. Yeah. all right. My last one is Hell Motel. Oh, boy. This is the new series on Shudder or AMC+. plus I've chosen to defect from Shudder and just watch all of my stuff on AMC+, plus because the Shudder app actually just sucks. The Shudder app is not good. It's really good.
01:00:40
Speaker
um and And I use it through the Xbox and through the Xbox, it really fucking sucks. Like I can't even see where my cursor is anymore. so it's okay on on the Apple TV box, but like even still.
01:00:52
Speaker
Yeah, but I can get a much better experience through ah AMC plus. So that's where I choose to go. And I get other movies there too. So Hell Motel, I thought was like a new series, but listen, I'm going cue you in on something.
01:01:06
Speaker
It's just another season of slasher. There you go. I don't know if you've watched any of the slasher series. of It's definitely like a Canadian production. um that The newest like eight like a list star that kind of um pops up on these is Eric McCormick from Will and Grace. Like he kind of has been in the last couple seasons.
01:01:28
Speaker
um I thought I was getting something new, but this is just it's but just more slasher. Basically, this season is about um A hotel where a bunch of murders happened in the 70s.
01:01:40
Speaker
And now there it's become kind of like a tourist destination. It's like reopened as like a true crime hotel. And they're bringing a bunch of like um like there's an influencer, there's an author, there's like all these different people that they've invited to like ah like open the hotel.
01:01:58
Speaker
And then sure as shit, there's a killer. um boy Listen, I'm making it sound stupid. I actually really do like, I really do like the show and I've actually really liked a majority of the slasher seasons. I think they're kind of corny sometimes, but um that's just kind of like Canadian production in general.
01:02:17
Speaker
I don't know. Like it just seems like one and maybe it's just a cultural thing. Like it just seems like one step, like, out of time. I don't know. It's weird. um But I'm liking it so far. i think we're six episodes in into a into an eight episode series. And i so I think I know who the killer is, but I won't say anything to not spoil anything.
01:02:40
Speaker
for anybody that wants to watch it, but you can watch it through shutter AMC plus. It's a fun little jaunt. It's nice. Very gory because this is what I will give the slasher people that, that, that produce these seasons.
01:02:53
Speaker
They know how to gross you out. Like they, yeah there's one person that gets sauna to death. Oh my God. So just think about that. Lord. Well, my favorite, my, my, not my favorite one. My last one is the Gilded Age. This is season three of the Gilded Age. um I am very much into the show and this season is fantastic. It's so good.
01:03:16
Speaker
This is basically a soap opera um and and it, and it, it, it acts like one and it doesn't pretend to not be one. And that's one of the things that I really love about this. ah The Gilded Age was created by Julian Fellows, who also created Downton Abbey and a number of other sort of like period pieces.
01:03:33
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um And it's great. It takes place, of course, during the the the the Gilded Age in New York. It has a cast that is just fucking insane. Carrie Coon, Cynthia Nixon, Christine Baranski, Nathan Lane, Michael Cerveris, Audra McDonald, John Douglas Thompson. I can go on and on and on. There are so many different big name actors in this show um and it's just a blast it's it's such a fun like silly like like overly dramatic show to watch um but if you get into that kind of thing you'll love it um this season is so far focused on uh the wedding of uh gladys who's played by tessa farmiga um tessa farmiga looks more and more like her mom every single fucking day i swear to god they are fucking twins it's bizarre
01:04:21
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um But she is she's so good. And um in this season, she is she's supposed to marry the Duke of Buckingham. I'll leave it up to you to watch to find out if she does or not.
01:04:31
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um But it's been so much fun so far. um People in the show that I love that I have big crushes on are Harry Richardson, who plays Larry, who is the son of the really rich family. my god harry richardson is so fucking cute my jesus god almighty and then ben i think it's ben aylers but it could be ben ollars he plays a character named jack he is like it's like the upstairs downstairs thing he's definitely downstairs um but in this season he invents something he invents this thing for a clock and will he be successful or not once again i'll let you watch the show um But so much fun. Carrie Coon is just having a blast in this fucking show. She, you can just tell she is having fun being a fucking bitch in this show and she loves it and she's so fucking good at it. um And now Emmy, and now Emmy nominated. There you go. Finally, it's one of Chicago's finest, by the way, Carrie Coon.
01:05:24
Speaker
So listen, um, If you have not watched Gilded Age yet, and if you're into that kind of thing, once again, if you're not into period pieces, you're not going to like it. So don't watch it. But if you do like them and you haven't watched it yet, go back to season one.
01:05:37
Speaker
It's worth it. It's a lot of fun. And season three is just great. So that's my final one for this edition of what you've been watching, bitch. So and I do want to make a I do want to make a slight correction to what you said earlier. Vera Farmiga is her sister.
01:05:51
Speaker
That's her sister. Yeah, really? Oh my God, Andrew, I've literally been walking around thinking that that is her mom this whole time. I'm really not joking. No, i i have thought i made this year I made this mistake years ago. So I just wanted to do little correction. Seriously, i have. Oh my God. I really thought that was her daughter.
01:06:09
Speaker
Oh my God. anywhere What's the age gap between them? I don't know, but that was what you've been watching, bitch. Maddie brought us Sinners, now available on HBO Max, Interstellar, you can find it, Harvest on Mubi, and The Gilded Age on HBO.
01:06:25
Speaker
And Andrew brought us what ah Wear Whatever the F You Want on Amazon, Too Much on Netflix, Drop on Peacock, and Hell Motel on AMC Plus slash Shudder.
01:06:37
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Folks, we'll be right back with the first film of the episode, The Hills Have Eyes. They wanted to see something different, but something different saw them first. The hills have eyes. Mister, don't take your family back in that area.
01:06:54
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The silver has been gone for 40 years now. There's nothing back in there but animals.
01:07:02
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A lot. The old creep told you not get off the road. um What began as a vacation ended as a nightmare. be held a pay now um are is back are like She thought she knew what the world was all about, but nothing prepared her for this. The hills have eyes.
01:07:40
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Do the hills have ears? No, they have eyes. Maddie, tell us all about The Hills Have Eyes. When the American dream breaks down in the desert, the monsters come out to feed.
01:07:54
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A suburban family en route to California takes a detour through the Nevada desert and crashes in a remote, desolate area once used for nuclear testing.
01:08:05
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Stranded without help, they soon discover they're being hunted by a violent, inbred clan of cannibalistic mutants. The Carter family must fight to survive in a savage sun scorched nightmare where the line between civilized and feral blurs quickly. Sorry, that's that whole description. This is just so funny.
01:08:25
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um The Hills Have Eyes was written and directed by Wes Craven, produced and distributed by Vanguard and Blood Relations Company, later re-released by Anchor Bay and some other companies, too. There were a bunch of them.
01:08:37
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Um, pardon of me. Susan Lanier plays Brenda Carter. Robert Houston plays the very gay Bobby Carter. Martin Spear plays Doug Wood. Dee Wallace, love Dee Wallace, plays Linwood.
01:08:50
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Russ Greave plays Big Bob Carter. James Whitworth plays Jupiter, the leader of the mutant clan. Janice Blythe plays Ruby and Michael Berryman plays Pluto.
01:09:01
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This film is rated R. It is 89 minutes long, made in the USA, released 22nd of July, 1977, filmed in the Mojave Desert around Victorville, California.
01:09:13
Speaker
The budget on this was $700,000, and it grossed million. Whoa. I was, and I think they must mean like over time when I got this. I was like, there's no way it made that much then.
01:09:24
Speaker
Anyways, um Andrew, I know you've seen this before. and and also I know that youre you are, I mean, we all kind of are, but I know that you are definitely a big Wes Craven fan. So I definitely have some questions for you specifically about that because you know Wes Craven better than most people that I know.
01:09:41
Speaker
So, but tell me about this particular watch of the Hills Have Eyes for you. Yeah, so of like the Wes Craven movies, this is one I'm like not as familiar with. I mean, I've seen it before, but it was definitely like, hey, this is ah definitely a refresh watch. Like I haven't seen it in so long that i it's like a refresh.
01:10:00
Speaker
And like, honestly... I really liked it I had, um i don't want to say fun because it's not a fun movie. It's a very dark and like desolate movie, but like, I
Film Analysis: The Hills Have Eyes
01:10:12
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don't know. Those cannibals were having some fun, Andrew. Eating all those dogs out there. Oh my God.
01:10:20
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ah But listen, overall, i I think that I enjoyed my time with this movie. It definitely like reeks of like early Wes Craven, like um ah Last House on the Left. It's still got kind of like that um early like just like grossness about it. I don't know how else a way to put it with with early Wes Craven movies. It's just it's it's it's gritty.
01:10:45
Speaker
Yeah, are grotesque. It's just got like, he wasn't afraid to put like, really gross shit on the screen. yeah And like that's like where we kind of need to applaud him because like it made way for like a lot of other filmmakers to be able to.
01:10:59
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. You know, I think like ah when we did, and this is a ah weird sequitur, but like when we did that very weird movie, Blood Games, that we both fucking loved. Oh, yeah. God, back in the day. Yeah. That movie wouldn't exist without a filmmaker like Wes Craven. Yeah, fair. Or Toby Hooper, for that matter, or like whatever.
01:11:19
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And so like... I really applaud that he put had the the braveness to put this on the screen in 1977 and really put a lot of heart behind it because I really do feel like this.
01:11:31
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This does feel like a family. Like, you know, I'll talk about this in both of our movies today. But like I bought that this was a family. Like I bought that they all like had relationships and feelings towards each other. And like their point.
01:11:45
Speaker
that they that they were a cohesive group and like you don't just get that like i don't know there's a lot of movies where you kind of just like i don't know i don't buy that they're actually friends or i don't buy that they're actually like siblings but this one i felt like they all kind of knew each other they're sharing cigarettes and they're like doing things and like i don't know there's just like a certain camaraderie that i get from like especially like the younger um people in the movie you know the D Wallace and the and her sister, Brenda and Bobby and even to a certain extent, Doug, like Doug kind of comes across as like this kind of um he's being accepted into the family, but he's still at like arm's length with the parents. And so like you just get this dynamic that I really do buy in a very short period of time because it's only a 90 minute movie.
01:12:30
Speaker
um, or 89 minute movie. Um, and so like, I really appreciate that. Do I think that it has a couple of stumbling points where like, it doesn't make a ton of sense. Yeah. There's a couple of things that they gloss over, like the nuclear testing and the whole like guy at the gas station, his whole storyline is a little wonky. Like it is like that like the fact that he has like a random wife that had like a random giant child, like that whole thing. That's weird. Yeah. Listen, if you want a more ironed out plot, watch the remake. The remake has an ironed out plot that you can follow. It's fine.
01:13:06
Speaker
Yeah. Um, it's, uh, the remake is brutal even more than this. Did Wes Craven also do the, do do the remake? No, no, it's different. Um, I think it's the guy who did Piranha if I remember correctly. yeah Um, but anyway, um, going back to this, I, I just think that this is like a, you know, for 1977 movie, it, it definitely played to like my modern aesthetics still pretty well. Um, the, the scan that I got, um, ah through Amazon, I believe is where I rented it. Although it looked really good. And so like, you know, obviously someone has gone through the painstaking thing of like cleaning it up and making it look good again.
01:13:44
Speaker
So I appreciate that. I think Brenda and Bobby as a team are awesome and I want them to be my friends. um And yeah, that's kind of where I'm going to leave it. But what what did you think upon first watch of yeah The Hills Have Eyes? This is my first watch. um And, you know, um ah like but I was thinking to myself, like, um you know how like hocus pocus means a lot to us.
01:14:11
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You know what I mean? And here goes Maddie bringing hocus pocus into this discussion about the hills eyes. But like the hocus pocus means a lot to me because I saw it when I was at a certain developmental point in my life. Right. Sure.
01:14:24
Speaker
I saw it early. I've got a lot of nostalgia for it. And what I was thinking watching this one was, I don't have any nostalgia for this movie, but I bet if I did, i would really, really love it. so Sure. now and so like and And I know that's not like some genius point. It's just something that I tried to remember when I was watching this. because it it It wasn't this is it it wasn't ah like one of my favorite films here, but also I didn't mind watching it.
01:14:51
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I just kind of had in mind, like I know this is a classic. I know that people really love this one. And I bet that if I had that nostalgia for this one, I would be all over it. And, you know, like you said, like there's, you know, there's a lot of stuff in this movie that doesn't make a lot of sense. There's a lot of holes.
01:15:05
Speaker
There's, you know, he he he was doing what he could do with the money that he had in 1977. You know, like it it came together surprisingly well is is what I would say. um One of the things that I think is really interesting about both of the movies that that we're talking about today is they they sort of both draw on this american this new American predilection for being ah afraid and being paranoid.
01:15:35
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And like um i mean in this particular film, obviously, like they have a good reason to because there are cannibals chasing them. But like you and I both know, Andrew, that cannibals probably are not out in the Mojave Desert right now. Whatever. Like, but like it's it's easy to understand how people watching this in America, like especially like this is like after Vietnam and like after the the civil rights era is going strong and that kind of shit. Like there's a lot of America that's changing at the time that this movie takes place.
01:16:07
Speaker
And like, you know, Americans at at this time become afraid of each other in in new ways. They become afraid of the world in new ways. You know, it it wasn't like after World War Two where like America came out strong and like everyone really loved Americans because Americans kind of saved the world from the fucking Nazis.
01:16:25
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And like, you know, now it's like after Two, Vietnam and people don't like Americans and there's this and there's that. And like, you know, Wes Craven kind of smartly plays into that. He doesn't put them, he doesn't put them in a, in, you know, like in Yellowstone national park doing a road trip. He doesn't put them in like LA doing a road trip.
01:16:42
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He puts them landing in a nuclear testing spot. So he does, i think, purposely bring the military into this. I think it is Wes Craven. And you might know more about this than I do.
01:16:55
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But I imagine like he was thinking what the subtext was there. Like he was making connections about Vietnam and paranoia and all that kind of shit. And, you know, it ah what bit Big Bob Carter, he's not like ah an ex-accountant.
01:17:09
Speaker
he is a He was a detective, right? Yeah. Isn't he? Yeah. you So, I mean, like he's part of, you know, the law enforcement. And everyone's got guns. And there's this. And there's that. It's just like, I don't know. It's a really interesting take on America. I think i think that was really, really interesting.
01:17:26
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um But, I mean, like, you know, back to, like, me watching this for the first time. it I think for me, it felt surprisingly long for 89 minutes.
01:17:37
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And like it's under, it's like you and I both love a 90 minute movie. God bless it. One the 90 minute movie. I am a big fan. I will give you whatever you want. But I was really surprised that this one felt so long for me. Well,
01:17:50
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A lot of the action doesn't take place until like the 60 minute mark. maybe Maybe that's what it is. But there were there were parts of it where I was literally just like, are we are we done? is this and how How is there still more to go here?
01:18:06
Speaker
And then we'll talk about that ending. Yeah, yeah, sure. But I mean, like that that's that's the part that really surprised me with this is that ah i was I was thinking, oh, it's 89 minutes. This will be an easy watch. No problem.
01:18:18
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And like I made sure that I watched this. like I got done with work yesterday and you know didn't have anything else going on. And i was a little hungover, quite frankly. um But like you know i I made sure like I had time to watch it.
01:18:28
Speaker
And I was just, I'll say for the 18th time, surprised how long it felt to me. Um, I was also really surprised at all the gay subtext with Bobby. There's quite a bit there. I didn't know that walking into this movie. I've never even heard of that before, to be honest. The gymnast Bobby. Oh my God. Like, come on. And like,
01:18:49
Speaker
Um, that was really interesting. Like there's an, I don't, I don't know how much you know about it. I know literally zero about it and I didn't have time to do any research on it, but like, there's once again, no way that Wes Craven did that on accident. Like that was clearly on purpose because he is so like nearly overtly gay in this. Um, also the hero, but which is very, very cool. Like I, and I didn't expect that either. I thought that he would probably be dead earlier on.
01:19:17
Speaker
So like, um i don't know i i guess like for me it was a big mixed bag like i was surprised i get that i was surprised i was a little bored i was i was like oh okay and i was also like oh okay so like i don't know it wasn't for me it definitely wasn't bad for sure and it definitely wasn't like amazing i was just kind of in the middle on it and like i didn't i didn't hate watching this you know do you know what i mean Oh, yeah. I mean, this is like a listen. If anybody has been been listening to this show for any period of time, you're going to know that like this is an Andrew movie.
01:19:54
Speaker
This is not a Maddie movie. Exactly. Right. yeah Precisely. But. um some of the standouts in this movie that I kind of forgot is I i honestly did forget that Dee Wallace was in this movie and I oh can I just also say I fucking love Dee Wallace for life will do anything for her specifically because she is the mom from ET obviously but there's just something about that woman there's something about her face there's something about her voice there's just something about her that makes me want her to be my mom. I don't know what it is, but I will fucking adore Dee Wallace. I love her so much.
01:20:30
Speaker
Especially in this movie, and this is what I mean about the family dynamics, is there's a moment where all the action is happening. So Big Bob Carter is set on fire. They break into the trailer.
01:20:41
Speaker
They're ah supposedly like raping Brenda. They're stealing the baby. They're doing all this shit. And this is when the big action is happening. And Dee Wallace, it plays a stupendous part about like just being a mom. And when she goes into that trailer and sees that that guy has her baby, it is on like, she just a goes after him no matter her, no matter her dying or not. Like the the baby shit is disturbing too. It is.
01:21:10
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Oh yeah. The baby fat and all that stuff. But he says baby fat. I'm like, Oh God. I thought he was also thinking, God, he would be like, i am like a buffet for him. do you know what I mean? Like Jesus. Oh, um No, but I just think like her portraying that mom character over that baby, she just does a great job. She does.
01:21:27
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I agree. And this what I mean, like about all the family dynamics. I think that everyone just does a fantastic job of doing. and And speaking of D. Walls, one of my favorite lines of the movie is where she's like, but they had just broken down or they had just had their accident or whatever.
01:21:41
Speaker
yeah. Oh, keep in mind, these both involve bunnies in the road. Both these movies. um Oh, yeah. Good point. but Where she goes, ah showers and gin and tonics. And I was like, yes, yes, yes. The life.
01:21:58
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And then speaking of some other favorite parts, love when Brenda keeps complaining about how they're going be French fries in the desert. Yeah. um One of my favorite moments in the entire movie is where the mom is trying to get on the radio she's going, Maypole, Maypole.
01:22:12
Speaker
know. I'm like, girl, girl. And the daughter is like, no, mom, you mean Mayday. I think it's Mayday. Yeah. um And one thing that I did think about this time around is when they're kind of teasing Bobby in in the, not in the woods, in the desert.
01:22:30
Speaker
Yeah. But like out in the desolate part of the desert. And he's kind of like teasing him with the dog noises and kind of like saying those like little weird phrases and stuff. Did you not get like really big Beetlejuice vibes off of that?
01:22:42
Speaker
No. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't really think about that. But now that you say it, yeah, like i sounds exactly like Beetlejuice. That's so weird. I did not think about that until right now. That makes sense, though. um Also, one thing that I noticed in this watch. So we have our like Hill people, right? So that's like the the the that you call them the mutant clan. Yeah. um She's drinking name brand booze.
01:23:08
Speaker
Where did they get that? Well, they she but remember when um the good girl's name is Ruby Ruby. Yeah. When Ruby first comes to the gas station or whatever that whatever whatever it is.
01:23:21
Speaker
fred's oasis yeah she's coming to do she's coming to trade with him right which which that that's like what they do she does say when wait like when she holds up the bag he's like well what do you got and she says radios and whiskey huh so like maybe get that like maybe they just like steal it from truckers when they can or something like that yeah i guess i mean kind of thing They do have a little bit more of an explanation in the remake. i Do they really?
01:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, there is a little bit more. yeah like Maybe I'll watch the remake just for fun. It is it is rough stuff, I gotta tell you. but well Do you like it? I do. I think it's i think it's actually a ah good remake, but it's just, it's it's rough stuff, man. It's not a, it's fair. of and the i don't know how to explain it, just watch it. Okay.
01:24:07
Speaker
ah But yeah, I think like, let's see here. What else do have in my, I really get really angry at fucking the parents in this movie because we got big Bob Carter who fucking blames everything on his wife. And then we got, he's, he's such an asshole to be honest that like when he, and and sorry to interrupt you, but like when he does die, it's hard to have a lot of sympathy for him.
01:24:33
Speaker
I'll be honest. Well, It's well because he blames everything on his wife. like mean Also imagine being Bobby with that as your dad. Are you kidding me? What the fuck? And then we got the wife who is a pray the gay away, a thoughts and prayers will solve everything kind of woman.
01:24:52
Speaker
And I just can't get behind well those was kind of people. And also like when they find, you know, big Bob all, you know, fucking um all burned. And yeah she's like it's not my Bob. It's not my Bob. It's not my Bob. And I'm like, she's like, i i can't, she's thoughts and prayers. She's thoughts and prayers. I can't tell if she's laughing or crying, but she's definitely more laughing to the point where I'm like, did nobody coach her on like acting that part, like that particular scene? It did that. that That part didn't work for me. I'll be honest.
01:25:23
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Yeah, well, and that's like that. That's the thing about this movie, too, though, is like will you build up so much of like the characters and then you lose like half the cast in a process of like five minutes.
01:25:34
Speaker
Like they all die. like Yeah, good point. um One thing that I didn't one thing that I think that Wes Craven learned over his filmmaking career is to practice a little bit more control.
Wes Craven's Style and Film Soundtrack
01:25:49
Speaker
And one thing that I thought that I was like, come on, dude, is where they, he pulls the parakeet out of the, out of, out of the thing and like eats the he half off of it and drinks the blood. And I was like, come on, dude, like this is a little much like yeah the fact that honestly, the fact that they even had a parakeet to begin with, I'm like, okay, enough.
01:26:08
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And yeah let me ask you this though. Cause once again, like i said earlier, you're, you know more about Wes Craven than like a lot of people that I know. Sure. Where do you see this film?
01:26:18
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Do you see this film specifically influencing any of his future stuff? um I think that this one is more a reaction to, not necessarily a ah preate like ah one that kind of made other films. I think that this is his reaction to Last House on the Left. I think that this is like...
01:26:39
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the next iteration of last house on the left that made him the filmmaker that he goes on to do nightmare on Elm street and all those things. Fair enough. Um, I, because I, I think that this is still back in his heyday of kind of like sensationalism and like very like gritty and hard hitting.
01:26:55
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And then he kind of goes into nightmare on Elm streets and the, um, I'm trying to think of the one word that guy gets electrocuted. I can't think his name. Shocker. Uh, like those kind of like more fantasy horror.
01:27:06
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Yeah. And then like, and then he kind of gets grounded in scream and then kind of goes from there. But that makes that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. I think it's more of a reaction to kind of the seventies and Vietnam and like all of that kind of stuff. And kind of like the, the hard hitting stuff that was happening in the early seventies.
01:27:25
Speaker
um So that's kind of where I, I lie with the West Craven of it all. Okay. Makes sense. i will I will say um whoever chose the music in this movie needs to figure it out because there are parts of this where there is like caper type music. Yeah. capable Like where I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah. Yeah. Like, are we in a horror movie? Are we in an action movie? Because yeah fair I don't know.
01:27:50
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Well, yeah that's actually interesting for both of these films today, too, because i I actually have a lot to say about the soundtrack for the next film, which is The Hitcher. um But there, but, like what you know, like you, that's obviously this is a very different kind of soundtrack. Don't get me wrong.
01:28:04
Speaker
But like the soundtrack for this one also at times felt just all it just felt all over the place. it takes you out of it a little bit completely and like and and like listen that kind of stuff is super important and like you know the people that listen to us they are good fans of horror they're good fans of film not just horror right and the best kind of films are always the ones where every choice that is made is thoughtful and like with this one you can just kind of tell like some of it's just kind of canned kind of score music yeah and like unfortunately that does take you out of it in some of the scenes i would agree and
01:28:40
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And then like just two things I want to end with and then we'll score it. um I did appreciate that Ruby um kind of like takes up a main role. God love her. Yes.
01:28:52
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When she shows up all dressed up, ready to go. i know. and And your man at the station is like, you're not going to be like the outside people. you like That's actually sort of like, a it's kind of touching when you look back at Which is technically her grandpa.
01:29:10
Speaker
oh my god that's right jesus christ oh my god it makes me think of that remember that song i'm my own grandpa yes jesus god almighty i want to sing that and then i will say i think that the gore is really good in this that that ankle um dog bite is nasty yeah um and then i'll just leave you with one little quote please from the mutant family you keep an eye on that baby tenderloin yes jesus god almighty and it makes me want a pork tenderloin right now andrew listen the ending i got i just gotta say this and we'll score the ending is so abrupt yes i forgot that it's just like boom boom boom the end like what what what red screen we're done and then they're just and then they're just left there yeah
01:29:57
Speaker
So, Andrew, tell me, what did you score The Hills Have Eyes? I'm going to give The Hills Have Eyes a 4.5. And I said it's definitely a product of its time, but it is definitely brutal, scary and devastating at the same time.
01:30:12
Speaker
Nice. So for me, i did a different score than I've ever done before because it really was like right on the edge for me. I gave it you're going to kill me. I gave it a three point nine. I've literally never never. We've never never done this on the show.
01:30:28
Speaker
But like it really did kind of feel that way for me. And and what I said here is that this this is the first watch for me. And like I perhaps don't have the nostalgia that others might. for It felt a little drawn out, a little long, but I can definitely see the classic nature of it. And I understand how others would really, really enjoy this.
01:30:44
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So, folks, that is it for The Hills Have Eyes. We'll be right back with our next film, The Hitcher. Why don't tell us what happened?
01:31:03
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I am telling you the truth. It was pouring rain and you just needed a lift.
01:31:15
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anybody see you pick this guy up? I don't know.
01:31:28
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We just wanted to do something nice for the guy. Hi, I'm John Ryder.
01:31:36
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Strangers think I'm trustworthy. Aren't you? know
01:31:54
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You should be out there looking for him right now. He's gonna kill more people. Just stay there. Oh my God. Oh my God.
01:32:05
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I'm trying to keep him. I'm trying to keep him. Oh my God, it's him. Freeze! It's not gonna stop.
01:32:17
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gonna stop
01:32:24
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What do you want? i want you to say four little words. I want to die. Don't ditch her, because you're picking up the hitcher.
01:32:35
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Andrew, tell us all about the hitcher. Evil doesn't need a reason. it just needs a ride. College couple Grace and Jim are hitting the road for spring break in New Mexico, looking for fun, ah sorry, looking for sun, sex, and time alone.
01:32:56
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But their plans take a terrifying turn when they pick up a stranded hitchhiker on a rainy night. A man calls himself John Ryder, but he's no ordinary traveler.
01:33:07
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Soon the pair find themselves the targets of a sadistic killer who frames them for a string of gruesome murders across the state. With police closing in and nowhere left to hide, Grace must face Ryder in a brutal showdown.
01:33:25
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Directed by Dave Myers, written by Eric Reed and Eric Bernst. ah Production and distribution were both handled by Rogue Pictures. Sophia Bush plays Grace Andrews. Zachary Knighton plays Jim Halsey.
01:33:39
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Sean Bean plays none other than John Ryder. Neil McDonough plays Lieutenant Estridge. And Kyle Davis plays Officer Miller. This is Rated R. It comes in at 84 minutes. Made in the USA in New Mexico.
01:33:54
Speaker
ah came out on january 19th of 2007 the budget was 10 million and it actually grossed 25.4 million which yeah that's more than i thought actually and i'm honestly on the budget i'm surprised that it wasn't more than that like there's a lot fucking happens in this movie a pretty slick movie yeah and a lot of a lot of cars get fucking blown up and shit there's a fucking helicopter like there's a lot in this for 10 million they did pretty good Yeah. Well, speaking of Maddie, please tell me your history with not only this version of the Hitcher, but if you've ever seen the original Hitcher, I've never seen it. Well, actually, the original I actually might have seen now that I think about it.
01:34:33
Speaker
But i but ah it had to have been a very long time ago and I don't really remember it. Anyways, this is the first time watching this one. um i mean, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this. Yeah, you know, look, this is one that I definitely thought would be a lot dumber than it was. I'm not going to lie.
01:34:48
Speaker
um Just just based on the year it was made. and like as soon as a remake, it's a remake. And like as as soon as it starts and like, you know, like 2000, like that that, the early aughts were weird, man. Like it was that was actually that's not early. It's late aughts. But you know you know what I mean? The early 2000s.
01:35:05
Speaker
It was a weird time where there weren't a lot of great films being made. I'm sorry, but there weren't. And like everything was jumbled and things felt strange.
01:35:16
Speaker
And like, I thought this would probably be the sort of a mediocre remake. And I don't think that's what it was. I actually think the film has a lot to say once again, going back to what I was saying before with, um, with the Hills have eyes, I think I, I, without really remembering the original hitter very much, unfortunately,
01:35:37
Speaker
I think this film has a lot to say about how Americans view empathy and how they're afraid of empathy and of doing the empathetic thing or the compassionate thing.
01:35:53
Speaker
And like, look, once again, it's a movie, like a thing happens. I'm like, the movie is going to do what the movie is going to do. Right. I get that. And there's a plot and there's a story and the plot here makes sense. I'm not saying anything else about that.
01:36:04
Speaker
I'm just saying that like this movie plays on the fears that Americans have of specifically helping people. And, you know, look, that the the hitchhiker motif has been around for a long time. This is not the first time that that a hitchhiker, you know, becomes a murderer in horror movies.
01:36:24
Speaker
I'm just saying that this one does a pretty good job of like making people even more afraid of it. And I do think that that is like a very unique American thing. Like Americans are, ah especially today, like watching this in today's America, I think, or or or or even, you know, around today's America is very different than it might've been in you know, like when the original Hitcher came out.
01:36:45
Speaker
But I also think in 2007, which is not that far after 9-11, Like it that it's, it's, it it does take on a new meaning to like, be afraid of, of, of helping people be afraid of just people in general.
01:36:57
Speaker
Um, so there's, i don't know, there's just something there for, for me that, that really just kind of stuck with me throughout this whole movie. Um, The one thing that I don't like about the movie is the soundtrack.
01:37:08
Speaker
The soundtrack is incredibly canned. It's very of its time. yeah Yeah. It's just songs that were popular. And like for me, the one where I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Is when Nine Inch Nails comes on.
01:37:21
Speaker
And I am a very big Nine Inch Nails fan. I do love that sequence, though. Listen, it's a wonderful sequence, but it's the wrong song. That song does not make any sense there.
01:37:32
Speaker
ah Lyrically, it doesn't make sense. Even musically, it doesn't make sense. And it's just it's a cheap inclusion of Nine Inch Nails there for no reason. i am sure Trent Reznor, if he even saw the film, probably wanted to roll over and die hearing that right there.
01:37:48
Speaker
By the way, just saw Nine Inch Nails recently in Dublin. They were fucking incredible. um But yeah, I will say I like to counter like what you're saying. with what? Is I do think that the one song that is honestly perfectly placed i is it's out of my hands for now when they're in the shower and it's kind like, I think that that's a good placement. um Sure, sure, sure, sure. But I think that everything else was was was not correct.
01:38:12
Speaker
and And I think that if they had been, i and I really do mean this because for me, and um music means a lot in general, but it but it means a lot in films.
01:38:23
Speaker
If they had been more thoughtful about the soundtrack, this film could have even been, it could have been a lot better for real. I really do believe that. So that's just like something that I really like kind of held on to in this.
01:38:35
Speaker
um You know, look, this is one of those movies where like evil is present and you don't know why. And, um you know, it kind of reminds me of like, um ah what is it called?
01:38:47
Speaker
Where they knock on the door, strangers? Strangers, yeah. Strangers, yeah. And like, you know, like in that film like where that they ask them like, you know, why are you doing this? and they're like because you were home kind of thing. It's the same kind of thing with with with with John Ryder. Like, yeah sure don we don't really know why he's doing this because we never get that explanation. We just know that he's a fucked up person who clearly is a sociopath, who clearly is a serial killer, who just,
01:39:12
Speaker
fucking gets off on killing. And, you know, that is very difficult for any of us to understand because we're not sociopaths. And so, like, it's, that's, that's, that is, it's just tough.
01:39:24
Speaker
You know what I mean? um There are parts in the movie where you're definitely yelling, yelling at the screen, like just fucking do that thing, whatever that thing is. Like, one of the parts that I'm thinking of is, you know After they're escaping from all the sheriff's police, um which is funny because my brother-in-law is a sheriff. I was thinking about Jeff watching this movie the whole time.
01:39:43
Speaker
um But like you know they're the part where they're they're there're in the ah they're in a sheriff's car and like he ends up attacking all of them in that Trans Am that he's driving. He takes down the helicopter and all that shit.
01:39:55
Speaker
She has the revolver in her hand and they're passing he's passing them by right there. And the camera literally goes to her holding the revolver.
01:40:06
Speaker
Like she's, the camera goes there. It's right there. And she doesn't do anything. And I'm just like, what the but why aren't you to do fucking use the gun in your hand all i will say about that part that you're talking about go ahead is that she would have had to shoot through her boyfriend through i know i know i'm but i i'm just i'm just saying it drives you nuts like that that kind of thing drives you i mean it that's the whole movie right exactly yeah Now, listen, ah other than that, though, I actually enjoyed the movie.
01:40:37
Speaker
I got to tell you, I did. and Listen, the the death of the um of the boyfriend, Jim, is awful my god yeah that is terrible he is literally torn in half um and she can't really do anything about it because she's in a catch-22 um i think that you know that she gets to be the final girl with this is really good the only thing i will say there is this if you shoot somebody point blank with a shotgun in the head
01:41:09
Speaker
that head is going to explode. I'm just saying, I'm not a shotgun expert. i i'm I don't count me as that. I'm just saying that that was a little unbelievable, but it was great to see her be that final girl and take that on and and end the film in that way. i enjoyed that.
01:41:26
Speaker
um The chase scenes in this are legendary. They are insane. Um, you know, once again, going back to that helicopter, like Sean Bean bringing the helicopter down was actually kind of cool. I'll be honest. yeah Um, and you know, look, Sean Bean does a great job as John Ryder, man. He is fucking amazing. And like, if you know, think about Sean Bean.
01:41:48
Speaker
Sean Bean would have just come off like the big high of being in Lord of the Rings, right? Which is like one of the biggest trilogies on film of all time. So, you know, people really did know who he was then.
01:42:00
Speaker
and like he he was, he was a big star then. So like having him do this was huge. I think that Sophia Bush and Zachary Knighton were both really good. i think Neil McDonough did a great job in that, in that Lieutenant role, which is not long lived in the movie, but I think he was still really good.
01:42:16
Speaker
um He's the only competent cop in this entire movie. Yes, that is absolutely true. So yeah, you know, look, I was honestly surprised about this, but you know Back to my initial point, I was also really... I was also just really... um What's the word I'm looking for?
01:42:31
Speaker
i was really... ah i was i was I found myself being really interested in in thinking deeper about like, wow, Americans really do have a deep fear of just helping people.
01:42:46
Speaker
And that, I don't, i didn't I need to think about that more, but like it just, it was in, it was in my brain the whole time. Anyways, that's me. Andrew, what about you? So yeah, I think that this movie is super underseen and super under celebrated when it comes to like the the the remake culture of the 2000s. Because I think that this comes, you know, this comes in 2007. This comes at the heels of ton of remakes.
01:43:11
Speaker
And I think that we were kind of in... remake hell at this point. Yeah. And I think that a lot of people didn't see this because they were just kind of like, Oh, just another remake. But I think this one's kind of a little special if I'm being honest. Sure. And, and I think that like that this one has a little bit more heart and, ah and a lot more star power ah when it comes to like Sean Bean and Sophia Bush and ni true even, even Zach, even Zachary Knighton for, for that matter. He's kind of a little bit.
01:43:40
Speaker
Yeah, he's got one of those faces that like if you look straight on, it's cute, but from the side, it's not the best profile. he's he signed it He kind of fits in for you and me in that, like I don't know. that like High school bully. Yeah, a high school bully, kind of like white trashy boy kind of thing. yeah like yeah For folks so that, if if you don't know, Andrew and I have...
01:44:00
Speaker
We have intersection on very few types of men. just want to point that out. But that is, that's the big one for us. It's like, it's weird. why It's my weird. White trash guys. Basically. That's who we love.
01:44:10
Speaker
Yeah. With, with puka shell necklaces. Yes, totally. Right. Um, no, but, uh, listen overall, like I just think that, I think that this movie never takes a break. It like literally action after action. and That's a really good way to put it. Yeah.
01:44:25
Speaker
Yeah. You're correct. And it's it's relentless. And if for 84 minutes, you're never bored. Like, it just keeps going. um And I think that it does a good job of like selling this story of, and i I think it's so funny because it takes Grace so long in the movie. And then she finally turns to Jim and she goes, he's framing us. And I was like, you didn't get this three times ago. Really?
01:44:50
Speaker
ah but um no, I just think that like, it's, it's a very like well put together movie. I think all the action is like for, for a 2007 movie ah of a remake of kind of, of kind of a forgotten movie of, of the eighties.
01:45:07
Speaker
ah This movie has so much action and so much destruction. And like, I got to tell you, I jumped like three times in this movie. Like, I jumped there. I jumped at the part where he's dreaming in the car where he kind like crashes through the window.
01:45:23
Speaker
um i jumped at the part where he throws the car at them off the col cliff. Yeah, that that that was one part where I was like, wait a minute. How did that happen?
01:45:34
Speaker
and Jesus. And listen, listen, with the movie opening with an association with Michael Bay, i should have known. Yeah, that was going to be part of this. Yeah, sure. Yeah. but like yeah i just think that this is like kind of an under celebrated of that of the era that it was made in and listen i don't think we give so sophia bush enough flowers because she kind of is a more modern day screen queen she's been in a lot of these horror movies and i think she does a great job here as grace too like she's very good and look and that is a tough role she has to go through a fucking lot in this shit man
01:46:10
Speaker
Well, and they they even have a moment and and it's right in that moment where the car crashes behind them. But like they have a moment, like a very real couple moment. And this is another thing that I wanted to bring up with, you know, in comparison to the Hills Have Eyes. I believe them as a couple.
01:46:26
Speaker
Like I do. I believe them as a couple. Yeah. And they they have a real couple moment. ah where they're walking in the desert and they're trying to get away. They just escaped from the the, the, the police department and they just have this argument where he's like, you're blaming this all on me. And she's like, I'm not. And they're just like a very, like, that's a couple like moment.
01:46:46
Speaker
Like that's just like, it felt very authentic. It did. Yeah. And so like, I don't know. i think that if, if people have not seen this movie, I would definitely give it a shot. Obviously watch the original. The original is also very good. The original is also very weird.
01:47:00
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. Like, um, the the, the, the, the flip here is that in the original Jim is traveling alone and he, he meets, um, John writer and the whole thing. And then he stops at a, he stops at a cafe and he meets a waitress and that's kind of how she becomes becomes and interest interesting.
01:47:19
Speaker
And in the gender flip, ah you know, spoiler for the original Hitcher, ah skip ahead 30 seconds, but she's the one that's tied up between the semis and gets killed that way. Oh, my God. Oh, God.
01:47:30
Speaker
ah Jesus. So this is the flip with Jim. And I feel so bad for Jim because, like, he is just trying to protect her. And, like, yeah honestly, he's made a lot of good decisions amongst bad decisions because, like...
01:47:45
Speaker
honestly that moment with them um in the car at the beginning where they kick him out of the, but they kick John Ryder out of the car. They, that's a synchronized effort between two people that I don't know if I could pull off.
01:47:57
Speaker
It's, it's pretty fucking hard, man. Yeah. And I will say like Sean Bean, he goes the extra mile in this movie. Like he, in the, especially in that car scene at the beginning where he's like, well how long you been fucking her?
01:48:13
Speaker
And then he's like, what the fuck like and then he's like well how on question how long you been it's fucking your wife and then he's like I don't have a wife and and then he's like well what's with the ring and he goes oh I just wear it to have strangers trust me and I was like oh shit yep uh-huh Because like, listen, Sean Bean does have that charismatic quality where you could either believe him or distrust him, like depending on his on his demeanor. So very good casting when it comes to that character, in my opinion. I mean, if you think about it's one of the reasons why in Lord of the Rings, he's so well cast there, too. It's exactly the character that he played there as well.
01:48:53
Speaker
And then will say Neil McDonough, who comes in later in the movie, is he's almost like a comedic relief in a way. A little bit. Yeah, I get that. Like, I mean, I think these are some of his lines.
01:49:08
Speaker
I don't give a rat's cock bag and you gotta be five finger fucking me. ah ah And I do like when he looks right at John Ryder and says like, maybe next time you'll be better company. Yeah.
01:49:27
Speaker
And so, like, i don't know. This one, i just think, like... That's funny. I think that this is, like, on, like, the funner side of horror. Because, like, listen, like, so many people die in this movie in the gruesome ways.
01:49:40
Speaker
But, like, you're kind of just along for the ride. And i I don't know how else to, like, put it. Like... It's it's just kind of like you're in and then you got to keep going. the The part that frustrates me about this movie are the police because they do not give until Neil McDonough shows up and says they didn't do this. yeah they They have no idea what they're doing. Yes, they they're idiots.
01:50:04
Speaker
Like, why would and I'm going to blame this a little bit on the waitress at the cafe because the waitress the cafe. I wanted to literally shoot in the head. Because literally, why would they ask to call 911 if they were the one that did it?
01:50:18
Speaker
I was so mad at her. Why would they be sitting in the car with the dead person if they did it? Exactly. So right ri that part really drives me insane. But once we get beyond that, I kind of understand it more. Like why they look why they look more like criminals beyond that point. Because a whole police station is dead. And then when...
01:50:39
Speaker
conveniently when that cop pulls up right as that cop gets shot in the head when Sophia Bush is pointing a gun at him. was like, God damn it. There's no way out of this. um I will say ah the other part that frustrates me is why is John Ryder and I don't know. I'm not a police officer. Never pretended to be one.
01:50:57
Speaker
Why is he wearing a bulletproof vest to be um like to be ah transported? i I did think about that too. And I thought it was strange that when she shoots the shotgun, the It literally only lands on that. Yeah.
01:51:12
Speaker
Only there. I'm like, girl, you need to aim other places. Exactly. ain't Aim for the head, honey. Just aim. and that Thankfully, italy it at least like knocks him down. But Jesus. Yeah. Also, another throwaway line that um I was like, wait, what?
01:51:26
Speaker
Is where Neil McDonough says to Sophia Bush, he says, I'm going to take you to Albuquerque for some like trauma, like whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then he's like, and then I can release you to your parents. And I was like, she's in college. Exactly.
01:51:39
Speaker
So ah you you don't need to release her to anybody. She's not a fucking child, you freak. Jeez. Yeah. um and i do love her arc at the end where she kind of gets to be like a little bit of the action hero she's like no i know what i'm doing i got this yeah when she and i i love the look on sean bean's face when he goes feels good doesn't it and then she goes don't feel a thing and he kind of has like a like he kind has like kind of has like a moment of like oh yes and I didn't create a monster here.
01:52:09
Speaker
and ah ah She shoots him in the head. And so like, listen, I just think that this is a fun movie. This is, it is it ultimately maybe a little forgettable for people? Maybe. But like, I just, I have fun with it. I don't know.
01:52:22
Speaker
but You know what? I did too. I mean, on like like I said, i had one way of thinking on this of what it was going to be. And I was, I was delighted at the end with, with what I got. And that gore of him being pulled apart between the semis is insane. Just that poor ah poor guy. Jesus.
01:52:40
Speaker
All I was trying to do was protect her. What did you score The Hitcher? You know, I gave The Hitcher also a 4.5. I said, we're supposed to hate remakes, right?
01:52:51
Speaker
I don't know, but this one just hits a bit different. I like the fast paced audacity of it. And I like all the characters. Yeah. ah For me, I get once again, I give it a 3.9. I'll never do this again. I promise. I almost hate i almost hate myself for doing it. But um ah like I said, the soundtrack is just so canned. I thought it was really thoughtless. And once again, especially the Nine Inch Nails usage, I just didn't like that. and um The final girl moment was definitely grand and all. But, you know, remember a point blank shotgun blasted the head would literally explode the head.
01:53:19
Speaker
um and I don't know. I had some other thoughts of it, but those those have evolved as they often do. um ah The pointless evil and the violence can definitely seem like it has no reason. um i also think that like it's it's um it's inspiring fear once again and having empathy in America, which I think is dangerous.
01:53:36
Speaker
But that's kind of American anymore, isn't it? So look, I'm pretty pleased with what I gave it as a score. And once again, delightfully surprised. All right. Well, that does it for our horror in the movies.
01:53:50
Speaker
But we'll we be right back to close out the show. And we have a fun game that we've never done before. It's called Name That Road Tune. I'm so hungry, Dad. Hold your horses. Oh, slug bug!
01:54:04
Speaker
Well, folks, that was episode 146 of the 13th Horror Podcast. Thank you so much for being with us again on yet another, truly, Andrew, a masterpiece of an episode.
01:54:16
Speaker
this This episode should be awarded with a gold medal. It should get an Oscar. It should get everything. Right? Yes. Where's our streamy? Thank you very much, Andrew. But listen, folks, thank you for being with us. Before we let you go, as always, we have a little game for you and then we'll do some housekeeping.
01:54:33
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Andrew came up with a new game for us. It is called Name That Road Tune. I think I get what it's going to be just based on the title. But Andrew, take us through. All right. So, Maddie, I'm going to read you some lyrics from popular road songs. So these have to do with either highways or whatever.
01:54:51
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So something to do with travel. And you have to name the song or or I will give you if you can name like the ah the catch, like the what do you call that? The the the chorus main the chorus. Yeah. OK, which is most are you going to sing them?
01:55:08
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I'm not. I'm going to read them because it's harder that way. if i ask you to so if I ask you to whistle the tune, would you whistle the tune? Let's just go into it. All right. Your first one.
01:55:20
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There's a world outside every darkened door where blues don't haunt you anymore, where the brave are free and lovers soar. Come ride with me to the distant shore.
01:55:32
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We won't hesitate to break down the garden gate. There's not much time left today. Yeah.
01:55:41
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Okay. Would you hum the tune? Is that possible?
01:55:46
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Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Oh, um, is it that song? Is it um Today is Where Your Book Begins? Is it that song? No, no, no, no.
01:56:05
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Oh, I don't know it, Andrew. Tell me. I don't know it. This is Life is a Highway. Oh, shut up. Come on. Yes. i Remade by Rascal Flatts, but also the original. Okay, honestly...
01:56:22
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A banger of a song. I thought you would get it by to break down the garden gate. Ah, fuck. Okay, okay. What's the next one? And then I will say that all of these lyrics come right before the chorus. Okay. so That is good to know. Okay, gotcha.
01:56:36
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Okay. Ready? Go ahead. Living easy, loving and free. Season ticket on a one-way ride. Asking nothing, leave me be.
01:56:47
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Taking everything in my stride. Don't need reason, don't need rhyme. Ain't nothing I'd rather do. Going down, party time. My friends are gonna be there too.
01:56:58
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Yeah. Once again, can you hum the tune? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Oh, I'm on the highway to hell. I gave that one away. You did. Okay. But that, that was very helpful. Okay, cool. Okay. got that one. Highway to hell by ACDC. I fucking love ACDC. Although, but also by the way, but see the thing about these is like, i know the songs and like, I'm, I actually, I'm pretty good at knowing lyrics, but I, these are different for me. Okay, go ahead. I'm i'm reading them purposefully not. Yeah. Fair. Good point. Okay. What's the next
01:57:34
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When she is lonely and the longing gets too much, she sends a cable coming down coming in from above. Don't need no phone at all. We've got a thing that's called love.
01:57:48
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You're close. Crazy little thing called love? Hmm? Wait, wait, okay, wait, wait. Give me the tune. Hum the tune. Hmm, hmm, hmm.
01:58:00
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keep Keep going. Give me more of that now. I can't. That's the name's the main thing. um Wait, hum it one more time. How do I not fucking know this?
01:58:12
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We got a thing that's called love. Oh, wait, son is this ah sense of cable coming in from above? Don't need no phone at all. We got a thing that's called love.
01:58:25
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um You're just missing one word. We got a thing that's called Crazy Love. We got a thing that's called Wild Love. We got a thing that's called... All right, you're not going to get to it. We got a thing called Radar Love. Oh, Jesus. God. feel like a fucking idiot with these. Golden Earring. Oh, wow. What a fucking name for a band. Jesus.
01:58:44
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All right. This next one you should be able to get. Go ahead. And it's the last one. Who's that lady coming down the road? Who's that lady? Who's that woman walking through my door?
01:58:57
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What's the score? I'll be the sun shining on you. Hey, Cinderella, step in your shoe. I'll be your nonstop lover. Get it while I can. Your nonstop miracle.
01:59:13
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Is it, who's that lady? Who's that lady? What's that song? And who actually, who sang that though? If you know me, you know who sings the song.
01:59:29
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Was that... That's not Billy Ocean, is it? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Did Billy Ocean sing that song? Yes. I did not realize he sang that song. Get out of my dreams, get into my car by Billy Ocean. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Duh, of course. Yeah. One of my favorite musicians of all time, weirdly. Damn. That's a weird thing about me. Listen, that was a good little quiz game. That was hard. I'm not going to lie. That was a hard one.
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02:02:44
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And yeah. And I think, you know what? Enjoy your summer. Get out to the highways and Why not? get out to the highways and get chairs and why not Go on a road trip and have fun and stop by all those tourist traps and weird shops. But Andrew, one thing that I would say, though, is when you're on that road trip, don't forget that the main thing that you should be focused on is getting out there.
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