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EPISODE 151: HALLOWEEN 2025 👻🎃
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The night no one comes home... but everyone’s tuning in! MATTY and ANDREW are celebrating Halloween 2025 with glitter, chaos, and pure spooky queer joy.
🕯️ HORROR IN REAL LIFE:
From Samhain in Ireland to the haunted murders of Lillian Armstrong and Roberta “Bobbie” Miller, we explore the eerie histories and real-life horrors behind Halloween night.
💀 FILMS:
🎭 HALLOWEEN III: Season of the Witch — Ancient magic meets murderous masks in Carpenter’s strangest sequel.
📚 GOOSEBUMPS — R.L. Stine’s monsters come to life (and yes, it’s still scary… for kids).
👻 PLUS:
💅 Trick-or-treating with pride (and pillowcases).
🕸️ A look at the evolution of Halloween costumes—from pagan protection to pop culture perfection.
🍬 Game: Is This Candy Queer? (We’re looking at you, Butterfinger.)
It’s a celebration of fear, fun, and full-sized Snickers—because we’re grown, gay, and demanding treats with confidence. 🌕
🎧 FriGay the 13th Horror Podcast — streaming everywhere you listen!
💀 Support us at frigay13.com/support
#FriGayThe13th #Halloween2025 #QueerHorror #HorrorPodcast #Samhain #Goosebumps #HalloweenIII #WeAreTheWeirdos #StayFrightful #SpookySeason #TrickOrTreat
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
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i gave a thirteen horror podcast is a proud independent podcast learn more about the show visit a fridaygate thirteen com Okay, I'm ready.
Humorous Halloween Traditions
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Trick or treat time. Let's go get some candy.
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Wait, are you serious? I thought you were joking about the whole trick or treating thing. Nope, I'm dead serious. I didn't spend three hours hot gluing rhinestones to the space suit just to sit on your couch and eat candy I bought myself.
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We're adults, Maddie. People are going to look at us weird. We are the weirdos, mister. That's the whole point. Beside, I brought pillowcases. We're doing this old school. All right, fine.
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But if someone gives me me raisins, I'm glitter bombing their house. That's the spirit. Also, I brought a Bluetooth speaker. We're playing Monster Mash on a loop until someone gives us full-size Snickers. You're a menace. Let's go.
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Remember when we were younger and we had to pretend to be straight and we never got to wear the costumes we really wanted? Yeah, now we're gay, grown, and demanding Kit Kats with confidence. You know it.
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and so What the hell? Their light's on. Trick or treat. Yeah, don't you know we're reclaiming our childhoods with sass and flair? Trick or treat. You know what? This is Halloween blasphemy.
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Where's that glitter bomb?
Halloween 2025: A Glimpse into the Future
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It's episode 151, Halloween 2025. the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom.
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Marjorie Greene, and I approve this message. To save America, stop socialism, and stop China. Faith five, we honor thee from life to death to life.
Halloween Safety Tips with Peter Pumpkin
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Horror in real life. Doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong. Horror in the movies. Where are you gonna Where are you gonna run?
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Where are you gonna hide? Nowhere. Because there's no one like you left. What do we want? Justice!
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When do we want it? No! Let's go! What are you waiting for, huh?
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I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. Sometimes. this but
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Hey kids, here comes Peter Pumpkin. For a safe Halloween, do what Peter does. Wear a light colored costume short enough so you don't trip. If you wear a mask, make sure you can see.
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Makeup's better. Don't criss cross the street. Call on one side, then the other. Parents set boundaries and a time to be home.
Podcast Purpose and Support
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Carry a flashlight for extra safety and let's all have a safe Halloween.
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Happy Halloween. It's Fragge, the 13th Horror Podcast. My name is Andrew. And my name is Maddie. And if this is your first time listening to the podcast, this is the podcast that talks all about horror in real life and horror in the movies. And today we are talking all about Halloween. Halloween. It's finally time, Andrew. it's It's October.
00:03:17
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It is getting spookier outside. i think it's it's still warm in Chicago, I'm pretty sure, but... Over here, it's definitely it's full on fall now. It's like windy and spooky kind of kind of stuff. Just like it's it's it's the it's the month that we wait for all year.
00:03:34
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you know what I mean? For sure, I've already been turning on. Anytime that the TV's on, then I'm not like why actively watching it. I turn it to like sci-fi or AMC that's playing all the horror movies. Hell yeah.
00:03:46
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I'm trying to get in the spirit that weather is not quite um not participating in Halloween yet. Come on already. and also on on my um you you know i'm i'm on like up of a flower journey finally on my balcony so last weekend i um i went to the there's a really nice garden center here called johnstown garden center they did not mean pay me to say that um but it's it's really really nice and they have like all this fun stuff and i went got a bunch of like autumnal things to plant so i'm really excited about that too i planted nightshade my on my balcony
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And it has a wimp the cats get it i know right and has winter cherries on it. And the guy that when I bought it, the guy was like, you you know, you know, not to eat these. Right. And I was like, yes, I read the thing. He was like, because you will die. Like you will absolutely die if you eat this. I was like, oh, OK. Wow. Geez.
00:04:38
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Funny. that's our Our summer flowers are still hanging on. So we got to wait a minute. You know what? Let them live. Let them breathe, Andrew. Like they're free and like ice isn't here to deport them to another country. Do you know what I mean? This is like the worst time of the year. i do i do have to say, like, look if at look, folks, you know, if you've been listening for a maybe this is this might be your first time on the podcast, right?
Origins of Halloween and Samhain
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If you don't know, i live in Dublin. Andrew lives in Chicago. We started this podcast way back when, when we both lived in Chicago for a very long time. and ah And Andrew, i heard, i have not seen video of it, but I heard that the fucking ICE agents rappelled in from a Black Hawk helicopter into an apartment building.
00:05:23
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Yeah, there was a government subsidized housing that was broken into. All of their um doors were beaten down. Their windows smashed. Kids put in zip ties because they're armed. I don't know, but um it's it's really, truly awful. And anyone that is standing up for this kind of behavior is despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself. And I hope you never get to, I hope you never get to enjoy another taco, another Mediterranean meal, another anything that it came over here because of people just trying to see search for a better life.
00:06:01
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Amen, girl. I'll tell you what it is. It's just, it's wild. It's, it's a, it's shameful to watch it from, from this far away. um and you know look what one of the things that that is is ties in i promise one of the things that we're we're about to talk about in today's episode is of course we're talking about halloween is uh like the origins of halloween right and actually one of the cool things in one of the movies that we watch in halloween three is they talk about the origin of halloween and samhain and how that took place here in ireland And, you know, obviously I'm here and Andrew, i actually, you you might not. A lot of people don't know this.
00:06:35
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We're in the midst of a presidential campaign here, right? Oh, nice. and And, you know, the the president is a little bit different. The president is like a figurehead here. And then, you know, the prime minister is like the the major government person, right? Yeah. yeah yeah But the the president is, there's three people running for president and ah Heather Humphries, Jim Gavin, and Catherine Connolly.
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And like, they're all a little bit different. Like Catherine Connolly is definitely the most liberal for sure. But you know, the other two, like if you were going to find cognates of them in America, they would be like Democrats basically.
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And one of the things that I was thinking about the other day when I was, there was a, there was a ah debate this week and I, I almost put that in air quotes cause it's, it's just nothing compared to what we're used to quite frankly.
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And I was just thinking how similar they all are. And like, yeah, a lot of Irish people might disagree with me on that because they've lived here for a long time and they just more nuances. It's just a different view.
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But um but they are. That is just the actual reality. And and one of the things that's also great about it is that like, This is still a place where you can like disagree with each other and like do it respectfully.
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and And do it in a way that like you you don't want to like literally kill the other candidate and kill the other person. And like ruin their lives and everything else. that just It doesn't happen that way here.
00:07:57
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And it's it just sucks that that's how it is in America. and and And in many other places. Yeah. Listen, if there's anything scary going on right now, it is what's happening there. And and you know we' we're not going to spend a bunch of time on it, but i just I think it's important to mention because, listen, I'm sure that we have some people that are listening right now that are worried about a lot of things.
00:08:16
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And it's not just you know immigrants, it's transgender people. We have transgender listeners that reach out to us on social media, um and that's heartbreaking. um you know i have a but One of my colleagues, she just moved over here weeks this like like weeks ago Um, because she has a transgender child and like she wanted to get out of America because it's that dangerous now for trans people.
00:08:39
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And that is just awful. It's awful. And I, I echo what Andrew said earlier about you if you support these things, if you support what's happening, you, you need to really think about yourself and your life because it's, it's, it's, it's heinous.
00:08:57
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Absolutely heinous. Yeah. Unfortunately, we predicted this when we were talking about the election and if he got elected, what it would be based on and how how it would morph the society that makes up America, um at least 30% of it or whatever you want to call it, that's still hanging on. It's supporting a madman. You've got it, girl.
00:09:20
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You've got it. i'm Just stupid. it's It's just it it breeds hate and it breeds bigotry and it breeds racism. And until until and someone or, hey, I don't know, a whole group of people stands up to it.
00:09:36
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I'm not calling out anybody anybody in particular, but we have a whole sector of government that's supposed to do this for us um until they stand up and do something about it. I don't know if we're going to be able to dig ourselves back out and i in my life in in my lifetime anyway Completely agree with you. And and i'll be I'll be honest, i I don't have an optimistic view. I think it's it's headed down the drain.
00:09:57
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If you just, I don't know, take care of yourselves and take whatever precautions you can now. That's it. And do your fucking research. you You live in this country and you need to protect it and you need to understand what's going on. so Yeah, I agree.
00:10:13
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Use that little Google machine that you love so much. God. but ah god Listen, Andrew, it is Halloween and this is our annual Halloween episode. This is good. This is our, is this our eighth Halloween episode now?
00:10:26
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it It has to be right. It must be. Yeah. So we've been, God, we got Andrew. and I know we we talk about our anniversaries all the time. It's okay. We've been delivered to celebrate. This is a free podcast. Exactly. But it is wild. And Hey, you know what? Look, we, we posted this, this last week on, um, on, on social. You can find us at Frege 13 on all social media stuff.
00:10:46
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ah But listen, if you are new to the podcast also, number one, welcome. There's a lot that you can go back and listen to. um But one of the things that makes us really special is that we are ad free.
00:10:57
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And this is something that is really important to us. And it is also something, quite frankly, if you listen to podcasts, which I'm sure Andrew, you do. I do. Everyone listening and probably listens to other podcasts.
00:11:09
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How many podcasts do you know that are ad free and that don't have like eight minutes of ads in every single episode? It's insane. It's getting pretty rare. And honestly, there are podcasts now that I just don't listen to anymore. And even if I like them because they're out of control with ads, I think it's ridiculous.
00:11:27
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This is one that we produce from the heart. You don't have ads. There are that we, we, we were in ad space for a while when we went through this weird phase in our lives called being on a network. Yeah. That we're,
History of Halloween Costumes in America
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we're over that phase now.
00:11:40
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Um, but it's, it's not happening here. So how do we keep an independent podcast going? Well, easily. Number one, Andrew and I just put our hearts into it. Right. And number two, we have patrons that, that, that also support us. So if you're interested in supporting our podcast, um,
00:11:57
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You don't have to listen to ads. Instead, you can go to our website, www.fregay13.com slash support, and you will find the link there for our Patreon and for our merch.
00:12:08
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So go check that out. You don't have to, but if if you're able to and you want to, please do. We would love to have you with us. um And that being said, let's go into the episode. So Andrew, i was thinking something that I would bring today would be talking about how Halloween started in Ireland. Would you like to hear more about this? Yeah, I'd love to.
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Perfect. So ah it is, of course, called Halloween over here. But it started out as a festival called Samhain spelled S-A-M-H-A-I-N. Now, why is it pronounced Samhain? Well, my friend, welcome to Gwilga.
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ah It is Gwilga is or or, you know, you some people might call it Gaelic, but it is called Gwilga here and or Gailga for some people. Um, it it is, listen, it's a tough language. I, I'm, I'm learning whatever words I can. My goal is that when I get my citizenship, I want to be able to take my oath in Irish and like do it from memory.
00:13:03
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Um, but man, woo. It's tough. I'm not going to lie to you. Even the names are hard, man. Oh, yeah, man. And the thing about it is the the Irish language is absolutely beautiful. Like when you hear somebody who knows how to speak it, it's like, whoa, it's it's truly amazing to hear.
00:13:21
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Anyways, it's pronounced Samhain. There you go. So this is a little article from Lonely Planet. It's called A Guide to Samhain in Ireland by Anne-Marie McCarthy, very Irish name. um So let me tell you about it. So as Halloween celebrations get underway around the world, Ireland takes pride in its status as the birthplace of Halloween or Samhain.
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Samhain celebrations have been a traditional part of Irish life for centuries, and they are stronger today than they have been for decades as part of a broader renewal of interest in traditional culture.
00:13:51
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It is one of four ancient seasonal festivals. ah The others are in bulk in February, ah ah Beltane in May, Lunasa in August. And they all coincide with public holidays in Ireland.
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Samhain's is the last Monday in October. So if you just happen to be here, um number one, say hi to me. But number two, you will see a lot of us that work here and live here. We will be off of work that day because it's a bank holiday, which is fan fucking death. That's awesome. Why can't we have that? Girl, I'm i'm not going to lie. As soon as I moved here and I learned about bank holidays, I was like, are you we just get the day off for literally no reason.
00:14:26
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And people are like, yeah, that's it. um So Samhain and Halloween are often used interchangeably, but there are some differences. Ika Shavna is the name of Halloween or October 31st in Irish, ah while the Samhain Festival traditionally took place on November 1st, or we might call that All Saints Day.
00:14:44
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Samhain is also the name of the month of November in Irish, and Samhain can refer to the season stretching roughly from November 1st to December 21st, though this is more associated with neo-paganism than backed up by ancient sources.
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The Harvest Festival of Samhain stretches back to at least the Celtic pagan era, if not before. It was a time of feasting and celebration to mark the beginning of the dark half of the year and has always had unearthly connections.
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The earliest written sources that we have on the subject describe it as a liminal time of the year, when portals to the other world would open, often through ancient burial mounds.
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Contact with the spirits was easier during this time, though the spirits in question are more commonly the siddhe, or fairy folk, rather than the spirits of ancestors.
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For hundreds of years in Ireland, people wore costumes while going door to door asking for food, usually in exchange for a performance of some kind. And many tried their hand at divination games, usually to find out who they would marry, though sometimes to ask who would survive the coming year. Jesus Christ.
00:15:51
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ah Ritual bonfires were, can you imagine that? Yeah, i'll give you I'll give you some food, but only if you can tell me who's going to die in this house. Yeah. i I also love the i i love the idea of celebrating the darkest time of the year where you're just like crying around a fire. Seriously, for real.
00:16:08
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um So ritual bonfires were op were also often lit on the hills or across the countryside since Samhain is the counterpart of the other big fire festival, Beltane, in May. In homes, candles were placed in the windowsills and sometimes placed inside horrifying carvings of turnips. Yes, it was turnips back in the day. And if you see photos of carved turnips, they are honestly pretty scary. I'm not going to lie.
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um After the mass emigration of Irish and Scottish people to the U.S., these traditions became trick-or-treating and pumpkin carving. Often slightly less scary than their older counterparts.
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Nowadays, trick-or-treating and traditional games are still going strong in Ireland. But there is renewed interest in the ancient origins of Samhain and the more traditional and pagan aspects of the festival.
00:16:54
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So also, there is a list here because I just thought it might be fun for for folks to hear about like some of the bigger festivals in Ireland that that go on. So in Derry, they have the Derry Halloween Festival.
00:17:05
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um It is Europe's largest Halloween festival. I still have not been to it. I might go this year. It's very possible. um And it has big fireworks and a big like carnival parade. It's supposed to be really, really cool. I haven't been to Derry yet.
00:17:18
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I'm sure a lot of people know about Derry Girls, that kind of thing. It's supposed to be a beautiful city and supposed to be a really cool festival. um There's also the Putsa Festival. ah That takes place in Trim in County Meve.
00:17:29
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It's from October 30th to November 2nd.
Unsolved Mysteries on Halloween
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yeah And this is an annual celebration of the birthplace of Halloween. It's in County Mead, it has free events, um and and there's a big ceremonial like lighting of of a bonfire and big drum processions and all that kind of stuff, big oversized puppets.
00:17:46
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Supposed to be really cool. And I gotta say, for that festival, they have really good marketing. like All the stuff just looks very cool. um The Dragon of Shandon takes place in Cork City.
00:17:58
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um If you ever go to Cork, people in Cork, God, they do love Cork. I'll tell you what. And they will tell you that Cork is the real the real capital of Ireland. On October 31st, this started out as a local community project, and it's a parade that follows a huge dragon as it emerges from the underworld to travel through the streets of Cork City.
00:18:17
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It is joined by puppeteers and performers, and folks are invited to join in the walk, which actually sounds pretty cool. um Right here in Dublin, we have the Bram Stoker Festival, where he's from. um And more spooky season than Samhain, this is nonetheless a highlight of the capital's cultural calendar.
00:18:33
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It celebrates one of the city's most famous literary sons and his enduring tale of Dracula. This year's lineup, well, the lineup usually includes a production of the final chapters of Dracula in the historic Abbey Theater, which is very cool. Samhain and the Heartlands takes place in Ishnach in County Westmeath.
00:18:51
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um That's actually after Halloween. It takes place in November. And that is a two-day event, and there's a big bonfire. And then on November 8th, they have a big procession of fire dancers and Irish wolfhounds, which you've if you've never seen an Irish wolfhound, they are Gigantic. They have like great Dane size.
00:19:09
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Um, and bunch of horses too. Um, there's also traditional storytelling, fortune telling and haunted tours. So a lot of really cool stuff happens around this time. Um, you know, even with that stuff, like coming from America,
00:19:23
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I will say like it just, it still is bigger in America now. Yeah. I think it's just like the commercial aspect of it is just America does everything on that scale as you well know, Andrew. Um, but it really is cool here because as this little piece, um, from lonely planet, you know, it talks about, i think more and more people are really trying to get back to like traditional Irish kind of stuff when it comes to that.
00:19:46
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And so it's cool to see how they're weaving that stuff back in. It's really neat. That's fun. i think um that's one thing in America that we don't really have is we don't have culture. like we don't like We're too young to have like true culture.
00:20:03
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um All of our culture comes from a blend of people all around the world. Other cultures. Yeah. um all The only culture that we have here is church, which is... Well, but but i mean and even that's not really because that's just a mix of other stuff, too. Right. No, no I'm just um I guess more of what I'm saying about church is like the collectiveness of like a community, that kind of culture, of yeah um which can be bad and good.
00:20:27
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we all know. Very true. A little bit of overlap with yours. i kind of wanted to go um in like into what what about costumes? How did that all become like a thing?
00:20:39
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You know what i mean? like Yeah, it's totally. inherent with with halloween and so i looked up a little bit of the history of halloween costumes before i do that do you have any predictions on what's gonna be like the big costume this year like what do you think is gonna be like the uh the pop culture icon or something that's for sure it's gonna be um aunt gladys from weapons you're gonna see a lot of her out there for sure um I kind of wonder, like, will we see like a lot like i like um I bet at like ah ah at a lot of Halloween parties, you're probably going to see a lot of like Travis Kelsey and um and what's her fucking I can't think of her name and Taylor Swift, like couples costumes. I bet we'll see a lot of that. That's a good that's good prediction. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of um ah of my God, my brain is dead today. Who's the big singer Pink Pony Club? but
00:21:31
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Oh, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah Chapel Rowan. My God, I am such an old man now, Andrew. I bet you'll see like a lot of like her. And then oh other than that, don't know. What do you think? Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're spot on. i think that there will be um probably a lot of Trumps just because of what's going on.
00:21:50
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true um I don't know if we'll, I think we'll see a lot of like Mormon wives type of costumes. Cause they're really popular right now. um And maybe even some Christie gnomes because she's such a fucking crazy person that people, I'll tell you what, nothing scarier than somebody dressing up like Christie fucking Cause what a fucking cunt. Yeah.
00:22:11
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Yeah. um All right. So the history of Halloween costumes. ah So a little bit of this is crossover with what you were talking about, just because the Irish were a little bit of the, you know, staples of the ones that created kind of the modern day Halloween.
00:22:23
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um So Samhain, around 2000 years ago, people wore animal skins and masks to confuse or scare away spirits believed to roam the earth um on October 31st. These disguises were ritualistic, not decorative, meant to protect, not entertain. ah And then in the medieval Europe times. So no one was Aunt Gladys 2,000 years ago. Right. Yeah.
00:22:47
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Where they're walking around with stick, breaking it everywhere. Yeah. um And then in the medieval times, um during All Hallows Eve, people practiced what is called mumming, um going door to door in costume, performing songs or plays in exchange for food or drink. what Kind of what you talked about. no um Costumes often represented ghosts, devils or saints, reflecting religious and supernatural themes until the 19th century in the U.S. when immigrant traditions came over.
00:23:15
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Um, Irish and Scottish immigrants brought Halloween to the, ah to the U S uh, costumes were homemade, often using sheets, masks, old clothes, or to resemble spirits or witches. This kind of reminds me of the costumes that we probably had.
00:23:31
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I mean, we, I, we both have talked about this many times, but we both grew up very poor. So a lot of our, a lot of, at least me, a lot of our costumes were thrifted. Like we'd go to Goodwill and yeah try to make up a character based on what we could find. Oh, yeah. Or like you just like found shit in your house and you were like, well, I guess is what we got. This is now. Cool.
00:23:51
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um Halloween was still more about community and superstition rather than commercial fun. And then in the early 20th century, it was the rise of trick-or-treating.
00:24:01
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ah By the 20s and 30s, Halloween became a children's holiday. Costumes were still DIY, but began to include storybook characters and cartoon figures. um The first mass-produced costumes appeared in the 1930s, often made of cheap fabric and plastic masks. Now, these were like...
00:24:19
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on the decline by the time we were um doing Halloween. But I do remember my mom talking a lot about like these like um gas station costumes that you would just get like a plastic mask and like a you know, plastic sheet and you just kind of be that. Yeah, yeah totally.
00:24:35
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um And then in the 1950s, the 70s, kind of was when pop culture exploded onto the Halloween scene with companies like Ben Cooper, Inc. and Collegeville dominating the costume market.
00:24:47
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ah Costumes featured TV characters, superheroes and movie monsters. um Materials were still simple vinyl suits with printed designs and plastic masks. Now, the 1980s and the 2000s, that's where we come in. Yes.
00:25:02
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um Halloween became a major retail holiday. Adults joined in, leading to more elaborate, spooky, sexy, and ah humorous costumes. And DIY culture grew and cosplay began influencing costume design. And that's where we're at kind of today, which is kind of fun.
00:25:20
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ah Kind of sad that we've lost a lot of our... our creative nature. And, you know, we just go to spirit Halloween and buy everything now, but you know, you got to start somewhere and I hope people can get in this spooky mood.
00:25:33
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Now, did you know there are a couple of big things that happened on Halloween? Tell me all about it. um So just two big facts that I found. um You know, did you know that Nevada became the 36th state on Halloween? I did not know that.
00:25:48
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That's that's very odd, but kind of sense for some reason. I don't know. um And then the other big one that I found was um Harry Houdini actually died on Halloween. I did know that. Yeah. Which um he is crazy when you think about it. that it that yeah That's pretty wild.
00:26:02
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I mean, that's not when he sustained injuries. his He sustained injuries, I think, two weeks before that. um But he eventually passed on Halloween, which is crazy. and um i also brought today some Halloween mysteries, or I guess I should say some Halloween know unsolved mysteries. Okay. If you'd like to hear them. Please.
00:26:22
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um This first one is from is about Lillian Armstrong. Okay. On a Halloween night 1963, Newcastle was rocked by a gruesome murder. Lillian Armstrong, a retired high a retired school headmistress, was found dead in her home, brutally stabbed 28 times, and strangled with a nylon stocking. Holy shit. Jesus. The crime scene was a bloodbath, and ah indicating a frenzied attack. Yet Lillian fought back, leaving defense wounds on her hands. The murder ignited a ah the largest manhunt...
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Tyneside had ever seen, but the killer remained elusive. Despite exhaustive efforts, the police hit dead ends at every turn. I mean, this is the 1960s. We don't even have fingerprinting or DNA dna or, you know, sampling or anything like that.
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um There were no signs of forced entry, no sexual assault and no robbery. The murder weapon was never found, and over 16,000 people were interviewed with no success.
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Scotland Yard even stepped in, but the case went cold. when Was Lillian's killer someone she knew? Did multiple attackers commit this heinous crime? The questions piled up, but the answers were scarce.
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o Years later, the house where Lillian was murdered gained a reputation for being haunted. New tenants reported eerie presences and ghostly figures. Could it be Lillian's spirit still lingering in the place of her untimely death?
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The case remains unsolved to this day, leaving a haunting void in the annals of true crime. Oh, my. Yeah. You know what? If I was brutally killed this way and they'd never fuck caught the guy, I'd probably haunt it too.
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don here And I say guy because we know it's a man. or What woman's going to be doing that shit? You know what i mean? Come on. i Eileen Wuornos was not there at that time.
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Yeah. And then finally, I have the story of Roberta Miller.
00:28:17
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ah Roberta Miller. The year was 2010. So, okay, we're talking about in our lifetime now, this is not, you know, some far off land where we don't know how like the police work or how they conducted investigations and whatnot. So pretty, I mean, 2010, it was only 15 years ago.
00:28:34
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So um this, the year was 2010 when Roberta Bobby Miller moved into her home in Guilford. She was seeking solace after a long and bitter divorce from her ex-husband, Gary Miller.
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the seeming The seemingly peaceful fresh start would soon turn into a nightmare on Halloween night. On that faithful evening, an uninvited guest arrived at Bobby's doorstep.
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What's perplexing is that there were no signs of forced entry suggesting that she may have known her visitor. The intruder left behind a scene of unspeakable violence, claiming not only Bobby's life, but the life of her faithful dog, Scout.
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um Initially, suspicion naturally fell on Gary Miller, given the contentious nature of their divorce and ongoing financial disputes. Despite these alarming circumstances, Gary was never charged with Bobby's murder. Strangely, just two days before Bobby's murder, a home Gary owned in Maine was burned down.
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Adding to the intrigue, $26,000 in cash was found untouched in Bobby's home, raising questions about the motive behind the murder. In 2015, Bobby's mother even financed a bill billboard promising a substantial $53,000 reward for any information leading to the conviction.
00:29:53
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Still, the case remains unsolved, leaving Guilford haunted by the unanswered questions that continue to shroud Bobby's murder. So what do you think... What think happened there? Do you think it was like a, um like a guilted lover situation?
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Like I find it strange that she had $26,000 in cash on hand. Like that, that's a lot of money. um You know what, Andrew, we're never going to know.
00:30:20
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I think it was, I think it was, she was, you know, sleeping with somebody new and maybe they, maybe she tried to go back to Gary and that's why he burned down his house. That could be it. I don't know. There's some, there's some intrigue here. It kind of reminds me of the time that my mom was dating a guy and he burnt down his own building for insurance money. Are you fucking, I've, you've never told me that before. Yeah, it was. i Listen, i but my mom has been married for a long time now. I love your mom. and And you know, she's, she's happy and healthy now, but she did not always have the greatest picker when it came to the news. You know, look, we all, we all go there sometimes, you know, we do.
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So what are you, what are you thinking you're going to do for Halloween this year? What's your, what's your plan for the month of October? You know what? That that's, it's a great question. i think, um, I do think for people like us, there's a lot of expectations about Halloween. And and ah I'll be honest, I have not had a lot of good Halloweens here.
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ah it' just it like It just always kind of ends up like where something weird happens or like... My friends are being strange or like the the night doesn't work out. it's it's It's kind of bizarre the way that it works that way.
00:31:30
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So this year i am determined to just do my own thing on Halloween. And I don't know what it's going to be quite yet. um Might go to this place, might go to that place, but I'm doing my own thing.
00:31:42
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And I'm going to do the night the way that I want to do it. um Because that sounds like fun. And then you just don't have to worry about other people. you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That way. So um this year, i don't I don't know. i mean, I'd like to be in a pub with people.
00:31:56
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um Might be ah might be at my local. That might be just fine enough. um Halloween's on a Friday this year, which is nice. um And we have we have the the bank holiday on the 27th, which is also cool. So, um yeah, I don't know. Not quite sure what I'm going do. what What are you guys going to do?
00:32:12
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um For the actual Halloween itself, um that is normally a night where I just like to sit on my deck with like a glass of wine and watch the trick-or-treaters. I just think it's so Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. um But leading up to Halloween, we have a couple of things that we're trying to do. We're going to go see um the new play porn a paranormal not porn of the new play, Paranormal Activity, at Chicago Theater.
00:32:36
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which is supposed to be like an immersive play where you get spooked. We're thinking about going to see Drunk Dracula, which is... Oh, that'll be fun. Apparently, the actor takes five shots right at the beginning and then has to navigate and doing the play after that, which I think is kind of funny.
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um And then other than that, you know, um Regal Cinemas here are doing um a horror movie a day, and you just pay eight bucks for the whole month, and you can kind of go see like old like horror movies that are playing. Oh, that's really cool.
00:33:05
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I might go do that. There's a couple that they're showing that I've never seen. So I might as well go see them on the big screen. join um Support your local movie theaters. Thank you. ah And um other than that, just a lot of like spooky little things. Maybe I'll take a ghost tour. I've never done a ghost tour in Chicago. so oh you absolutely should. That that would be wonderful.
00:33:23
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like I know there's a lot of like walking tours of like the cemeteries and stuff, which might be fun. so I can do that for sure. That that would be so much fun. yet like There's some stuff I'm going to do leading up to it. um like Same thing here. they had The IFI, the Irish Film Institute, they're having a horror-a-thon that starts, I think, next week.
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um ah Lighthouse Cinema, where I go all the time, they're their big thing is called Fallen Angels. so It's just a bunch of horror movies that they're doing from the second all the way through the end. So lots of stuff to see there.
00:33:52
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Um, yeah, you know, there's, there's, there's always good stuff going on. It's just, you just got to kind of seek it out and find it, you know? And I'm going to make sure that my jars in my kitchen always have candy in them because that's what it's about.
00:34:06
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It's goddamn right. And you know what? is a guilt-free October. Oh, fuck, fuck yes. Um, i'm also just really looking forward to just like watching my own movies at home you know yeah like i i i haven't watched hocus pocus yet this year can't wait to get that on so and you know how much i fucking love that movie i can't wait to get my little hocus pocus lego house out of its uh it i have it in my drink cabinet but i'm gonna take it out and put it on the table now because it's holiday time um so yeah you know just have a little fun to go to pumpkin patch next weekend can't wait for that
00:34:36
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well Cool. got a little nightlight that it's two little ghosts with a campfire in between them. And it's really cute. That's perfect. God, we're such fucking Halloween nerds.
00:34:48
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Well, listen, folks, whatever you're doing for Halloween, let us know all the about it. We'd love to hear about it. Um, and you know, look, if you're in America, keep yourself safe, look out for each other too, you know, especially on Halloween, Lord knows is going to be, you know what actually a good costume would be. It'd be really terrifying.
00:35:05
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Just be an ice agent, you know, like please so ah so show up like that. You're, but you're bound to make that party scatter pretty quickly. Um, yeah, I think it'd be, I think it'd be funny to show up as like a cube of ice though. That'd be funny. Oh, that is funny.
00:35:17
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You know, listen, take, take care of each other. And, um, don't Don't let the goons scare you out of having a Halloween that that is that is that is meaningful because Lord knows this is what we live for every year. we fucking love this season. Let's enjoy it, you know?
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Yeah. And if you need to take a break from the world, don't be afraid to to do that and celebrate. Fucking lutely. So listen, folks, that does it for horror in real life. um Welcome to the Halloween season.
00:35:46
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We'll be right back with what you've been watching, bitch.
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Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.
00:36:04
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And we're back with another edition of Whatcha Been Watching, bitch. Whatcha been watching, you spooky little bitch? Trick or treat, bitch. Because guess what? We're back with telling you what we've been watching. That's all this segment is, really.
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um So, Andrew, tell us what you've been watching. My first one I'm very excited about because I didn't realize it was coming back so soon. But that is English Teacher Season 2. need to get on this. I still have not watched Season 1.
00:36:34
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You need to. You're going to watch love it. Because I saw a clip and I started laughing very hard. and is that Last week I saw a clip and I was like, oh my God, I have to watch this. Let me just tell you the plot of the first episode of this season.
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So the students are putting on their play for the year. And ah the English teacher, you know, the the main main guy, he wants to do Angels in America. And...
00:36:57
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Shut up. and and the kids And the kids can't relate to it because they they don't they don't get it. And everyone's fighting him back. And so they decide to do COVID in America. That's so good. Oh, my God.
00:37:11
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that is so That is ridiculous. and And, you know, hilarity follows after that. But this show, i can't tell you, like, there there are few shows that too truly do get, like, the off-the-wall humor that I truly find, like, just really funny. That's, like, a little bit dark, but still, like, really funny.
00:37:30
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um Like, The English Teacher does. And I applaud, you know, the people that work on this show because they just, they get things just so spot on with, like, what's going on and and and what it must be like to be a teacher in America right now.
00:37:42
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And so I encourage people to log on to Hulu or Disney Plus because now they're they're kind of the same thing. um and And give this a watch and get some eyeballs on it just because i I don't know if it will get renewed again. I was surprised it got renewed the first time um just because it's such a it's such a niche audience.
00:37:59
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But I would encourage people to go watch it. Nice. ah My first one is one that actually watched a little while ago, but I thought I would finally mention it now. ah The Life of Chuck. Oh, I forgot about this. Yeah, which is, of course, written by Stephen King um and ah directed by Mike Flanagan um with ah a really great cast, which is just not a surprise because that's how Mike Flanagan does shit, right?
00:38:24
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yeah Tom Hiddleston plays Chuck or Charles Krantz. Mark Hamill is in this, for God's sake, in Albie Krantz. um Jacob Tremblay plays a younger Chuck.
00:38:36
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Kate Siegel is in it. Go figure. Tua Ejiofor is in it. Nick Offerman is in it. All the the usual faces that you see in Flanagan movies, you're going to find them here too.
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um And it's it's it's really good. is it is a um it it's it's it's hard It's hard to describe it like without giving too much away, if I'm being honest.
00:39:00
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it's It's about the life of Chuck. That's it. What I can tell you is that um it's it's all the stuff that you might imagine from a Flanagan movie. It is, it's, ah you know, it's, it's weird and a little bit out there and, you know, not, that's not scary, but it's, just it's kind of otherworldly and you don't always know what's going on. And, and it, it is, it is ethereal and mystical.
00:39:24
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um and And it's really beautiful and it's really heartfelt. And you know how how Mike Flanagan does shit, it's it's hard on your sleeve. He's he's not afraid to be sentimental. and And this goes full bore into it.
00:39:38
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And it's a it's a really it's a really pretty movie and it's it's it'll you know it'll make you cry kind of thing. I happened to see this the night before my birthday. My birthday this year was not my favorite birthday. I turned 43 and guess what? Turning 43 is not fun. That's just the reality.
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And, uh, I just felt shitty and I felt alone and I felt like I just didn't want to have ah that birthday. If I'm being honest. And I, so I was like, you know what, let's go see this movie.
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And you know, it it it It took a depressed night and made it maybe a little bit better. So like good this is a good, it's it's good. I really do recommend it. If you can still see it in the cinema, I don't think that you can. But if you can, I would recommend it because it is a big old thing. it's it's It's big. It's very theatrical.
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So if you're able to see it on a big, big screen, take that chance. And if not, that's okay too. I think it would be good. But um just, it's a lovely movie. it was It's loveliness that is unexpected at this time.
00:40:35
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You know, and yeah maybe we need more of that. So it is no surprise that Mike Flanagan delivered yet again because he's just a fucking little genius. That's who he is Yeah, this is um this one like didn't get like all the of the big marketing here. And so I kind of feel like it kind of like came and went. But I do believe that this is with his new agreement with Amazon. So I'm assuming it's going to go on to Amazon if if it's not already there. Yeah, I didn't it didn't even think about that. And then just like some of some of the other people in this, Matthew Lillard is in this. David Dalsmakian is in this. um
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Hamish Linklater is in this. It's just it's it's a crazy cast. It really is. Well, yeah, you know, we are Mike Flanagan Stan boys. So I will definitely will definitely see this as soon as I see it's available. So know what? I think you'll like it a lot. I really do.
00:41:19
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Cool. All right. My next one is one that I just watched the other night. I just swapped it in at the last minute. And it is called Departing Seniors. This is on Amazon currently.
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um it is about uh a senior you know a senior in high school or a group of seniors in high school and um the the one main character is uh a gay he's a gay is a gay and um and he is kind of getting bullied by like the this group of other seniors and one of the one of the pranks goes horribly wrong and he ends up falling down a ah flight of stairs jesus and um is it it wakes up in the hospital and now has an ability to when he touches someone he either sees their past or their future and then it kind of coincides with a serial killer that's killing off people and so he's like he it basically the movie is about he has to decide whether to use these powers to help people or to like you know let the let fate take its take its way so um
00:42:19
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I really liked this movie. It was a very big surprise. I had't i had i had feel like I heard this from somebody on the internet, like maybe when it was making the um like film ah circuit, you know, like the the festival circuit.
00:42:30
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um But I came across it like randomly on Amazon, and I was like, oh, I think I heard about this, and I just turned it on. And i it was pleasantly surprised. i I really liked it. So if you have some time to watch it on the Amazon Prime, I would definitely give Departing Seniors a little watch.
00:42:44
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Nice. Now, the next one for me is one that I myself and literally every other person in Dublin has watched now um called The House of Guinness on on Netflix. um This is a big old show taking place right here in Dublin, um very close to where I live because I live ah probably 10-minute walk from the Guinness storehouse.
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um And it is the story of part of the Guinness family. Now, I was actually talking to a friend about this last night at the pub. but um what's it what's important Before you go to watch this movie, if look, everyone knows what Guinness is, but you might not really know the whole history of Guinness.
00:43:25
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And the thing about Guinness, when whenever people come here to visit, um I always tell them, like look, you need to do the Guinness tour. and And it's one of those things, like yeah, it's touristy. Of course it's fucking... And by the way, can I say, everything is fucking touristy? I hate it when people say that. like yeah Anywhere you go in the world now is touristy. Get the fuck over it. It's such an elitist thing to say. Anyways, yes, it is a touristy tour. I get it.
00:43:52
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However, it really does teach you how important Guinness is to Dublin. and how important Guinness is to Ireland. And that when you think about Ireland and Irish culture, Guinness is part of it, baby.
00:44:06
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That's just it. It is impossible to extricate the two from each other. um And so Guinness is just woven into the history of Ireland now, and it it it means a lot to people here. It means a lot to us. um And so telling the story, I think this this was a big gamble from Netflix because you are you have the the the possibility of pissing off the entire Irish nation.
00:44:27
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Anyways, um this. So what's important about about to know about this before you start watching it is that this is not the start of the Guinness story right there before this.
00:44:38
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The day one of of this of this miniseries or or series, whatever it is. um there would have been a hundred years of Guinness history before this. And that's just something to kind of keep in mind, right?
00:44:50
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Anyways, um this is about um ah Benjamin Guinness dies and his sons, Arthur Guinness and Edward Guinness. um And the other one is also Benjamin and their daughter. I forget the daughter's name. And I think it is, um they are the children of Benjamin.
00:45:06
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They're waiting to hear about the will and what happens in the will. Guess what? Surprises them all. And they deal with it from that point out. Anthony Boyle plays Arthur Guinness. Anthony Boyle is from the north of Ireland.
00:45:17
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Some people might call it Northern Ireland. We don't. um he He is really good. There is a bathtub scene in this. I'm just going to leave it at that. Let me know when you watch it and you get to that scene.
00:45:29
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You'll see why it's unmissable. I'll just say that. um Louis partridge play or louisu Partridge plays Edward Guinness. ah James Norton, who has been in a lot of shit. You you all definitely know him.
00:45:41
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He plays Sean Rafferty, who's sort of like their right-hand man kind of kind of guy, whatever. Jack Gleeson returns from um from Game of Thrones to be in this as basically playing a leprechaun. It's kind of funny.
00:45:53
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um and And a whole bunch of other people are in this too that are really, really good. um So House of Guinness, ah I watched the first episode and I was like, what is going on with these accents?
00:46:04
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um Some of them definitely do not sound like they are Irish, but whatever. um That's okay. And I was a little bit bored, I'll be honest. Then I went back to it and I and i i made myself get to the second episode and then it caught on for me. So I would just say that the first episode, honestly, it's not all that exciting.
00:46:22
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But yeah watch if you watch the rest of it, you know what? It's a good soap opera. That's the way I'm looking at it. I did have fun watching it. It is scar it is not scary. It is sexy. That's what I was trying to say.
00:46:34
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um And there's some gay shit in this, which is actually pretty hot. I'm not going to lie. So um I recommend it. I think it's fun. If you're in into Guinness, you'll probably enjoy knowing a little bit more of the history.
00:46:46
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um They do a good job of, you know, kind of taking you around Dublin. um So, yeah, it's fun. House of Guinness. Watch it. Cool. Yeah, I haven't gotten to this one yet. I saw it up just premiered maybe like last week or something. And so I'll give it a good old watch.
00:47:01
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um Let's save our shared one for last. How about and um the next one that I have is on Netflix. It's called The Hunting Wives. Have you heard of this? I have not heard of that at all.
00:47:12
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Okay, so this is Brittany Snow and Malin Ackerman. It is about a couple that moves from Boston to Texas. um And he's going to be working for like this big this big guy, a technology guy. don't It doesn't really yeah like ah explain like what he's actually doing, but they're moving because of a job.
00:47:33
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And Brittany Snow's character kind of gets seduced by the yeah the like the the right wing, you know, uh, crazy wives. And, um, she experiences power and, and riches for the first time and boy kind of gets swayed over to their side. This is very much, um, desperate housewives, but Texas edition, if that helps you kind of put it in perspective.
00:47:57
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Okay. Um, listen, I thought the twists and turns in the show were really good. it's very well acted. The, you know, the wigs in this are something else because it's Texas, but we can take away from that.
00:48:09
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Um, but overall, like I have a hard time recommending this one because while like the twists and turns are like fun and yeah crazy as i just, it's so hard for me to see like,
00:48:23
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Gun-toting Texas, we're more better than you attitude. i just it it it's It takes me out of it. It takes me out of it. um So while I enjoyed the show, I mean, take it with a grain of salt if if if you maybe are not in this in this lifestyle, I guess. um But I still liked it. It just was like...
00:48:44
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oh i don't know if i'm supposed to like this or hate this you know what mean you know what i'm i'm just so done with that with that kind of with the like like those kind of people you know i just i just i can't do it anymore i really can't i did i i don't let that i won't be alive we all won't be alive that much longer you know what i mean i don't yeah yeah i mean i really don't um The next one for me, because we we we eat well we each have um we have one that overlaps, ah is The Brutalist.
00:49:12
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ah The Brutalist stars Adrian Brody as Laszlo Toth. Felicity Jones is in this. Guy Pearce. Joe Alwyn. um Alessandra Nivella. Mark Rylance. It's a really great cast. It really is. um And this would have been up for the Oscars and like a bunch of other awards. It was a pretty, pretty big film last year.
00:49:33
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and i It's really good. I watch it at home. um It is long. um But what's great about this, it's three and a half hours long. and Oh, wow. But what's great about this is that um there is literally an intermission built into the movie.
00:49:49
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And so it's it's one of those kind of like old style. Like I haven't seen anything like this in a long time, but where it's like an act one. And then there is a literal intermission on the screen and then there's an too, um which i which I really appreciate.
00:50:03
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um So what is it? that This is the story of a Holocaust survivor, Laszlo Toth, who is Hungarian and survives the Nazis, goes to America um and tries to figure it out. And he is an architect um and a designer. He's absolutely brilliant.
00:50:23
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um And this is the story of just how things sort of occur after he gets to America and after his wife finally comes over and after his niece finally comes over.
00:50:34
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um And it's it's a I think it's a really... it's it's not ah It's not a Holocaust movie, but it is. And I i think what's what makes it really interesting is that it's not a like there's no scenes of like concentration camps in this. There's no like there's no Nazis in this.
00:50:53
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Instead, what it's about is the journey of of those generations and and how those generations followed the people that came here after, well that like that went to America after, and then you know went around the world and and did other things.
00:51:09
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um And, you know, there that this is it's it's it's fictional. There is no Laszlo's Huff there. that he's He's modeled maybe after a couple of different brutalist architects. they they um But I thought it was really wonderful. um There are scenes that are very hard to watch.
00:51:23
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Not going to lie. um And ah yeah it's I'm still thinking about it right now. I finished it. Yeah, I watched it over two days and I finished it yesterday and i'm I'm just still kind of noodling on it.
00:51:37
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Um, it made me sad. Maybe it made me sad. And then at the end, it made me hopeful again. and um, I don't know that there's, there's a lot in there and it also gave me a new respect for brutalist architecture, quite frankly. Um, yeah, usually more of more of a mid-century kind of person, um, which this would fall into.
00:51:54
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Um, but I'm more like Frank Lloyd Wrighty kind of stuff. Uh, but this, this was pretty remarkable. And like the way that they awaken you to that, to that style of architecture. is kind of amazing and i've i've never really given it as much thought as i as i am now for god's sake but um yeah but very very um a much deeper appreciation for it now and and also for the stories behind it you know like we look at all these buildings especially in chicago like god chicago is the city of architecture and i've done that architecture tour there god at least 10 times on the river with different groups
00:52:29
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And you always learn something new, but there's just not a lot of brutalist architecture um yeah in Chicago. But, ah you know, the the stories behind the buildings, like somebody had to think that up.
00:52:40
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Somebody had to design that whole thing and think about every room and what you would feel like in that room and what what you might think about. And should the ceiling be this high or that high? Should the floor be like this or should it be like that?
00:52:54
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Where does the door go? like I mean, those sound like menial things, but they're not. and And it's really brilliant to like to watch Adrian Brody play an architect that is absolutely consumed by his art.
00:53:08
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and just And I don't know, it just gives you a new respect for for architecture. It really does. So anyways, but blah, blah, blah, blah. It is long, but I really do recommend it. you know You don't have to watch it all in one day. I watched it in two.
00:53:20
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um if If you're able to, watch The Brutalist. Cool. Yeah, I was thinking that there's a couple in the South Loop that are very Brutalist style. Yeah.
00:53:30
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that are That are pretty cool. I mean, it's definitely it stands out amongst like the other kinds of architecture we have here. But um you very interesting, very like um stark, a little a little colder, but in a but like a different kind of way, not like a standoffish way, but like...
00:53:45
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Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I'll check this out. Sounds interesting. um And then the last one we have is on Netflix. I have to admit, I have not finished it yet. I'm two episodes away from finishing it All right. um We watched the sixth episode last night and it's eight episodes and that's the new show on Netflix called Wayward. Yeah.
00:54:04
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um When this first um released a teaser trailer, I was a little like, we're doing this again, because I read the Wayward Pines series. It's a series of three books. I forget who the author is. And then there was a series on Fox called Wayward Pines that was literally the book.
00:54:21
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And so I going into this was like, oh, I know the twist. I know what's happening. But this is different. And I don't know if it's going to tie into those books at some point because there's a very stark difference between what's happening in the show and what's happening in the books. And I don't know if they're going to lead into it.
00:54:38
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But there's so many things like Tall Pines. That's the name of and the book that I'm reading. but So I don't know. It's it's weird because they're there. They're there. they're departing from what I expected, which I like, I am really excited to see how it's all going to wrap up. And obviously Tony Collette, um, and may Martin, um, are doing a great job.
00:54:58
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Uh, I think the whole cast is good. Um, I just don't know what's happening quite yet. And so I'm eager to watch the rest of it and see what's, what's, what's the resolve because it it does, look it does market itself as a limited series, not as a not as an actual series. Which is great. Thank you, Jesus. I really applaud that. ah so i'm I'm so tired of open-ended things. Me too.
00:55:22
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So i i I did finish it and I gotta tell you, I loved it. i had a great time watching this everyone knows i'm a tony collette fan tony collette for life also kind of say tony collette deserved best actress for her performance in hereditary but i'm not bitter um tony collette is great in this um as the headmistress of this academy for for for young people that are troubled uh may martin is great in this playing alex dempsey And it's like a, it's like a gender neutral slash transgender role.
00:55:56
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um And I, I, what, one of the things that I really love about this show is how they, they, they really like, they, they have a lot of fun with, with that.
00:56:08
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They really do. And it's not just with Mae Martin. It's with other people too. They have fun with gender and sexuality where like they take it seriously, but they also like, They also like poke fun at it themselves.
00:56:20
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And I think it's it's really brilliant the way that they've done it. And I'm and they Martin is great in the show. Really, really good. um And everyone else is, too. i I just I had a great time watching. I was not going to give spoilers, um but this is one that I got done with it. And I was like, you know what? That fucking rocked.
00:56:38
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And I got to tell you, the soundtrack is great. There's a lot. There's lots some good needle drops in there. Oh my God. Great music. If I, I, I follow it. I found the, like the, the official playlist on Spotify or, you know, wherever you leave. on like um And it is, I've listened to it for like the past week. There's so much great shit on there.
00:56:57
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um And it's like stuff from like my high school days. It's stuff from college days. It's stuff from way earlier than that. And just like some really cool tracks. So like, I just think that they did a good job with this in creating something cool.
00:57:10
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Like this is not cringy. It's actually cool. And it just, I don't know, fucking works really well. I loved it. Yeah, I truly do appreciate the um the acknowledgement of sexuality and of transness in in this in the show, but it's not the crux of the show, yeah if that makes any sense. yeah' i really It's not all about that. It's just they happen to be in an environment where no one cares.
00:57:34
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Right. And then that's how it should be. So hey fucking man move along down the road, everybody. It's just another day in the life of your life. Amen. um But no, yeah, i I really enjoyed it. I can't wait to but to finish it up, which I'll probably do today, to be Hurry up, Andrew. Come on.
00:57:51
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um And Michael, for that matter. Both of you, hurry up. um Well, folks, listen, Andrew, you brought us some great stuff. We both had Wayward, of course, but you also brought us English Teacher Season 2 on Hulu, Departing Seniors on Amazon, and The Hunting Wives on Netflix.
Discussion on 'Halloween 3: Season of the Witch'
00:58:07
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And Maddie brought us The Life of Chuck, which I assume is going to be on Amazon Prime, if not already. ah The House of Guinness on Netflix. And The Brutalist, which I'm sure you can find multiple areas. yeah So, folks, that's it for What You've Been Watching, bitch. Hang out right where you are Do not move, because we will be right back with one of them one of the strangest films of all time.
00:58:30
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Halloween 3, Season of The Witch.
00:58:38
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You don't really know much about Halloween. Halloween. The barriers will be down between the real and the unreal. And the dead might be looking in.
00:58:50
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The last great one took place 3,000 years ago when the hills ran red. Halloween, the children. You happen to know anything about this, Cochran? All I can tell you, mister, is watch out. see He's watching you, friend, I guarantee you that.
00:59:07
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The trick or treat. Hey, Mr. Cochran, just what is the final process? Fellas, I was just kidding. Witchcraft. To us, it was a way of controlling our environment.
00:59:19
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Hey! What?
00:59:26
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Where they taking her? They're taking her to the factory. I want a mask. Can I have a Just what I had in mind you, little buddy. Why, Congress? Why? Do I need a reason?
00:59:38
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I've got nothing here to indicate there was ever a body at all. Operator, this is an emergency.
00:59:48
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I do love a good joke, and this is the best ever. A joke on the children. I'm glad you'll be able to watch it. You've got to believe me. They're going to kill us.
01:00:00
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All of us. Stop it! Halloween. The world's going to change tonight, Doctor.
01:00:11
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Happy Halloween. Stop it!
01:00:21
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Halloween 3, season of the witch, the night no one comes home. Season of the witch. It must be the season of the witch because we're talking all about Halloween 3. Maddie, tell us all about this strange little movie.
01:00:40
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The night no one comes home. A doctor and a young woman uncover a sinister plot by a Halloween mask manufacturer whose products are designed to kill children during a nationwide TV broadcast blending ancient witchcraft with modern technology.
01:00:58
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This was written and directed by Tommy Lee Wallace, ah produced by John Carpenter and Deborah Hill. God, what legends they are. Distributed by Universal Pictures. Dr. Daniel Dan Chalice, played by Tom Atkins, who I bet if we were doing Hot of the Episode, Andrew would choose him.
01:01:15
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I don't know about that. L. Grimbridge is played by Stacey Nelkin. Conal Cochran, played by Dan O'Hurley. ah Buddy Kupfer, played by Ralph Strait.
01:01:25
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And Rafferty, played by Michael Curry. The film is rated R. It's 98 minutes long. Made in the USA. Released 22nd of October, 1982. Filmed in Lolita, California, where the Silver Shamrock factory scenes were filmed at the Humboldt Creamery and Familiar Foods.
01:01:43
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with additional filming in Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, and San Fernando Valley. The budget was $4.6 million. It grossed $14.4 million. Andrew, it's not a first-time watch for either of us, but what did you think this time around?
01:01:57
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Yeah, Halloween 3, I was thinking of this while we were watching it, and it must have just been so strange to have um the you know the first two Halloween movies, and you go to sit down in a movie theater, and you watch Halloween 3, and how strange that must have been for audiences. Jesus, my God almighty.
01:02:14
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um no listen i think that this is honestly probably my second or third favorite halloween in the franchise uh i i know it's not ah a michael myers movie but i don't really give a shit because i think that like the halloween movies that come after this have diminishing return if i'm being honest yeah um and i think that this was a fun idea i wish that we could get more original idea i mean we do get more original ideas from john carpenter but like um You know, more original ideas around the the different facets of Halloween um and and how he could have come to it and told a different kind of story. mean, we all know the history that this famously was um knocked by audiences and ah not understood. And kind of then he he rerouted back to, um you know, Michael Myers and telling that story.
01:03:01
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Yeah. um And, you know, famously, this was supposed to be a kind of like ah every year we come out with a different kind of Halloween story. So it kind of yeah set the tone, um which was, you know, derailed after this movie came out.
01:03:15
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um And so it's an interesting watch. I really like it. I think it's really interesting. I think it's really original. um And I have fun with like these really goofy characters like Conal Cochran and, and um you know, Dr. Daniel Chalice and how everyone is so fucking horny for him in the entire movie. My Lord Almighty. Jesus.
01:03:36
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um It's surprisingly gory. i forgot some of the yeah the set pieces that take place in here, especially one of a man getting his head literally ripped off of his body. Yeah. Yeah. And ah the killing of a kid. And like, I just think that this one, it just swings so hard for the fences.
01:03:53
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And for the most part, apart from some acting choices, which we can talk about later, um i think it's really ah successful. And this is actually one of the Halloweens that I watch more often than some of the other sequels. Fair.
01:04:08
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So yeah, that's kind of my initial thought. What about you? Yeah. ah I mean, a while back, this would have I would have had a very different opinion. um I wouldn't have liked Halloween 3. I love Michael Myers, all that kind of stuff.
01:04:22
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um And my opinions have just changed. ah in recent years. And I think Halloween 3 is a brilliant movie. It really is. i think um it's really bold.
01:04:34
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It's really daring. um I think, you know, after the the the runaway success of Halloween, the original Halloween, And like Halloween 2, you know, whatever it is, it is what it is, but it it's not bad.
01:04:47
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um But like to to take a very sharp left turn was a big gamble. And... i it's I don't know that's just that That's the kind of like art and filmmaking that I really respect.
01:05:05
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And I was thinking about it as I was watching it again today. i was like, God, it's it really is kind of like a Black Mirror episode. you know And it's like it's like, I don't know if but like maybe Black Mirror couldn't exist without this. you know Or maybe it's just like this is another like another another one in the string of like Twilight Zone and then Halloween 3 and Black Mirror, all that kind of shit.
01:05:26
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um it's just it's it's really really well done and you know some of it yeah seems maybe a little dated obviously this was made in 1982 but then a lot of it also doesn't like it actually reads so well and and there are parts of it that were you know just absolutely bizarre and parts of it that are actually kind of touching and parts of it that are just like what the fuck is going on it's it's just wild Um, but John Carpenter and, and Deborah Hill, I don't, I don't think her name gets mentioned enough.
01:05:56
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Like they really went for it with this. And I just think it, it worked. It absolutely works. And especially this watch. I was like, you know what? This one's fucking brilliant. It really is. So I had a great time watching it this time around.
01:06:09
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Yeah, I just think that this is like a it's just so different than other movies of this time that you kind of have to have some appreciation for it, even if you don't like the outcome. Yeah, um I really liked what they did with the opening credits. You know, we get you' so good.
01:06:26
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The opening credits of Halloween one and two. And then this is like a digitized version, which I thought was kind of interesting. um Obviously, ah John Carpenter's score is amazing throughout this entire movie.
01:06:39
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um And then and then you you have the movie within a movie, right? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, like, ah there's a commercial, like, you know, saying that the classic Halloween with Michael Myers.
01:06:49
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And like, how cool is that? Like, i yeah audiences back then had to have been like, what? Oh, my God, that's crazy. It's like a meta before there was meta. You know what I mean? Totally. Yeah. um No, I liked that too. And you know, for everyone that says like Michael Myers isn't even in this one. Yes, he is. he He's right there.
01:07:09
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um And I think that it's funny. And you know, there's kind of like a weird, like extra meta thing that Tom Atkins is watching Jamie Lee Curtis on the screen when he already slept with her in the fog.
01:07:21
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thats like It's a weird like thing. Yeah. um I think that this is this movie. it It is really funny, though, that they center it so much in Irish irish because like, yeah, because like the Stonehenge is in England, but like they make like it's it's just there's a weird thing that they're that they do. And it's it's very cemented in like Irish culture with like, you know, Silver Shamrock and the the Rose of Shannon Hotel and the Dublin Inn and Mr. Cochran. And actually, I was listening today, i was I was listening on him, I was like, oh, they actually did some good dialect work with him. like he
01:07:57
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he said some He said a couple of phrases that like that you hear them here. And I thought, oh, that was really subtle and actually kind of brilliant. I did laugh out loud. though, when he makes his first appearance and they're they're in the hotel they're in the hotel parking lot and we just get ah introduced to, um i think they're introducing the family and um but the hotel guy is like, oh, there's Mr. Cochran now. And he like slowly drives by like five miles an hour. I was like, this is so funny.
01:08:26
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um um And it's just, there's like, there's some things in this that they, they keep hitting on that are it's, it's like almost like comedy gold. Like the whole ex wife thing is just so funny. odd Like Jesus Christ.
01:08:41
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Like when he when he comes into their living room with the masks, um ah the the other the other masks, not the silver shamrock masks, but he comes in and um he goes, oh, sorry, bad timing. And she goes, I'm used to it.
01:08:55
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Just like from then on his ex-wife is just like a nagging nagger. Like it's, it is so crazy funny that we still have kind that we still had these like um these are caricatures. Yeah. um Of like the angry ex-wife in 1982. I thought so that would left in like the fifties and sixties, but it's still very apparent here in the eighties, which is so pretty funny. Or I love it when they're, I love it when they're in the hotel room and what's her face is like, well, do you want to go to sleep doctor?
01:09:26
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and he goes and he goes what kind stupid question is that kisses her kisses her if i was like oh my god that's ridiculous and i kind of love it that yeah the way that every woman in this movie except for his ex-wife is horny for him is so funny like the nurse he like he like slaps her butt and she slaps his butt back uh we have the um The person that works in the morgue who's like constantly flirting with him over the phone. We obviously have, um you know, his love interest ah that is ah automatically horny for him right off the bat, even though her dad just died and he's the doctor that took care of him.
01:10:07
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um And then even the wife of the of the family, she kind of gives him like a couple one liners that kind of indicate that she's horny for him, too. So I'm just like, Jesus Christ, everyone is horny for Tom Atkins in this movie.
01:10:18
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Also, everyone just like, go get laid. Jesus. Seriously. um I do like the idea of kind of um ancient Irish robots, which was interesting.
01:10:30
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Yeah, right. Which is what we have here, by the way. Yeah, that's not you're not actually people. You're just all robots. mean Well, I mean, I still am because I'm an immigrant. But um yeah, everyone else here is just a robot. It's kind of
Analysis of 'Halloween 3' Plot Elements
01:10:40
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weird.
01:10:40
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It was funny, though, then when they show that kind of knitting robot and then yeah knocks off the head and he's like, oh, this one's from 1775. And I was like, what the fuck? I was like, okay, that's maybe a little bit old, dude. I'm just saying, bro.
01:10:54
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um I do appreciate some of the side characters. I think the Marge, the woman who accidentally misfires on herself, like that whole story is really yeah crazy. and the And I forgot how gory that is, like with her having like a hole in her face. Big time. you the the ah The only criticism that I have of it Because I was like, do we need the bugs?
01:11:19
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Do we need the snakes? Because I don't really get that. I don't either. Because I'm like, okay, where are they coming from? Like, if if if they had if they hadn't done that, if they had just stuck to, like, I don't know, the chips fucking just, like, eat you alive, basically, kind of thing. Yeah.
01:11:35
Speaker
That would have been, I think, better, you know? I don't know. The bugs and snakes don't make a whole lot of sense. um The only thing that I can think of is that they were going off of the magic of the of the um Stonehenge. And maybe that comes with some sort of like ancient nature or something. getting yeah um That's the only thing I can think of. But the fact that the the dad and the mom of the family are killed by the snakes that come out and not like the laser is kind of just a little bit lazy, if I'm being honest.
01:12:03
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See, that that's what I mean is it's just like then other like the knock on effects of it just then they don't kind of make sense. Yeah, because like it's it's it's crazy enough to have like an ancient laser burn a hole in your skull. Like that's enough. We don't need like, right. Exactly. Like, come on. What's going on, dude?
01:12:22
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um I do think that it it is interesting to see in the early 80s, the way that they just like talk about how everyone just drinks all the time. I don't know if you caught that. But like, like when he like is going in at the very, very beginning to to his shift for like he's on call the on call doctor. And he's just like straight up like drinking and drinking.
01:12:43
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Even his wife says something along the lines of like, oh, drinking and doctoring, great combination. I mean, stuff like that. Times were different, you know? And he just like he buys like a six pack of beer um before on their road trip to Santa Madre.
01:12:57
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And he even has an interaction with a homeless person where the homeless guy is like, I ain't got no diseases. Can I have a drink? And he gives it to him. know. And I'm like, what are you doing, dude?
01:13:09
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And then right after that is the kind of infamous scene of the homeless man, um you know, knowing, quote unquote, knowing too much. And, the you know, the robots come and literally rip his head off, which is another like insane, like gory part that.
01:13:24
Speaker
i guess when i I guess when I think back to like Halloween, especially the Halloween 3, I never thought of it as like ah as like a bloody movie. But it actually is pretty gross like in some parts. Big time, for sure. i mean there's that like And also, like kids fucking die in this. vision.
01:13:42
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it's a dark it's a dark vision um It's a dark vision, but it was a vision. you know like Once again, it's just such a departure. And then you're right. like you know Then Halloween, you know it's like a right turn. And then all of a sudden, we're right back on the the the Michael Myers stories.
01:13:58
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And you know Halloween's, what, I guess four through, how many Halloweens have there been now? Depends on what timeline you want to follow. But if we're mean there, there's a lot, right? yeah And then you add on the, the Rob zombie ones and whatever.
01:14:11
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So like, ah you know, i there are some of the new Halloween's I, I, I tolerate some of them. Some of them I don't like, and some of them I kind of like, there's none of them that I love.
01:14:23
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That's for fucking sure. But like it it is it is strange how they went right back into it. And they and they just started to like take themselves almost too seriously moving forward. I don't know. It's it's it's weird. It's bizarre.
01:14:37
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It kind of lost some of the wackiness that that that this has. um And even that some of you know the the first two kind of have. Without a doubt. Like the mystery and the and like. um I don't know. i just feel like after this one, you know, four is suffisable. Five is straight up awful. And six is a mess. So like it's it's it they're kind of all different. But um this one at least had a coherent thought of like, yeah, where they wanted to take the story, which I really appreciate. Well, it it it had it had a concept and yeah and like and they and they stuck to it. And I think they allowed themselves to discover things. I think a lot of the the other you know post this Halloween, it's not that they take themselves too seriously. I take that back.
01:15:18
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They become too certain of themselves. I feel like it's like there's no more discovery in it. There's no more. Like like you said, there's no more real mystery. It's just kind of the same thing over and over again.
01:15:28
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and like in different ways. I don't know. It it kind of just fucks itself up. Yeah, and we get the iconic song, two more days till Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, which will get in your head ah every time you watch this movie, and it will never leave until it's actually with you um until the end of time.
01:15:44
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Trust me. um I also, in this movie, I was like, Tom Atkins, can you just sit still for a second? No. Because he's always like he's always either out getting something or like sneaking around. or like He he just is ah he a man on the go, my friend. He is on the go. My God.
01:16:01
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um Did you notice at the um end of the it's halfway through the movie and then at the end of the movie, the code that they put in to activate the ah the microchips? What was it? Six, six, six, baby. Oh, there it is. Of course. Of course.
01:16:16
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i do think that that was funny, though. That's like a little Easter egg that if you really watch, it's like that's the code to get it all going. um and another Another little Easter egg is that Jamie Lee Curtis provided uncredited voice work as the curfew announcer and the phone operator.
01:16:31
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oh that's her voice on the curfew thing. So is. i did I did think that that part was... the The placement of that curfew message is really funny because like the curfew message happens and then it shows like an hour later he's out at the party store. was like, wait, what?
01:16:47
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And apparently he's a trick. Apparently, too, those masks, the wi the Skull, the Witch, and the Pumpkin, they were real Don Post Studios designs that were later sold in stores.
01:16:59
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And you can also see them in the movie The Guest, which they were on the wall in The Guest, which is funny. And to be fair, they are, like especially for 1982, those are good mass like They're way better than anything we had. hundred percent like those look really really good they just do and you know what and it is true to form when they show like how they make them like that is how you would make those kind of masks i've watched like eight seasons of face off where they make like different costumes and masks and that's kind of how they would do a latex mask which for authenticity's sake i thought was pretty fun
01:17:31
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um I think that Colonel Cochran's eyebrows are insane. oh my God. My notes, because I don't know why he doesn't trim them, but he's got definitely got like Morgan Freeman eyebrows, which are crazy.
01:17:44
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um And then, you know, we get the extra punch at the end of um Ellie being a robot. Jesus Christ. there There are two theories to this. There are some people that believe that she was always a robot. I don't fall into that camp because she has a personality through the entire first half of the movie. I think she gets turned into a robot when they abduct her.
01:18:07
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Sure. um I'm not sure where you fall on that. and and that kind of what do What do you think happening there? I'm definitely the latter. I just i don't think... i don't Well, I mean, you could go really either way.
01:18:19
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I just think it's the latter. I think i think the stuff the stuff prior to us finding out that she is a robot, I i just think it seems all too real. yeah And I just don't think she's a robot for those parts.
01:18:31
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Well, and also, like the the proof is kind of in the pudding, right? like As soon as she is captured, she never says another word. like She doesn't talk. Yeah. That's where i kind of fall in. And we all we we kind of know from the other robots earlier in the movie that they don't have a personality. They don't talk. They don't react like they're just stone cold like killers, basically.
01:18:51
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um We see that in the very opening scene where that car where that um car crushes the one robot um and he doesn't even really have a reaction. and So that's why I kind of fall into that. um But I did find it very sad that, um you know, Ellie doesn't make it because she is such like a staple of the movie. um And, you know, we don't even really know if his kids make it, to be honest, because at the end, you know, he's trying to get the commercial taken off the air, but he only gets it taken off two of the three channels. Yes, that's right. They only have three channels. That's it, baby. Welcome to 1982. That's how works. And you find them.
01:19:25
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with an antenna on top of your TV that you probably put tinfoil on to get better reception.
01:19:34
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um But yeah, overall, I think I have a lot of fun with Halloween 3. Do I think it's like the end all be all? No, but it's at least like a fun, different kind of movie in this like slasher genre that, you know, kind of permeated this era of the eighty s And so I give it credit for that.
01:19:52
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Maddie, do you want to score this thing? I would love to. ah So I gave it five and a half out of seven. And I said that Halloween 3 is honestly fairly brilliant. This is a Black Mirror episode before the idea of it could have ever even been known.
01:20:07
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Bold, daring. It's fantastic. And as a reminder here at Fraggy the 13th, we judge on a seven-stripe scale for seven stripes of the gay old rainbow. I gave this a five. I said, how did they come up with this? I kind of wish we could have gotten more weird tales from John Carpenter and Deborah Hill just like this.
01:20:25
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Amen. So, folks, that does it for Halloween 3, the season of The Witch. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with something very different. Goosebumps.
Introduction to the Goosebumps Movie
01:20:33
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Mom, are you positive that there weren't any other places looking for vice principals? You promise you'll give it a shot? I promise.
01:20:39
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And I looked into it legally. I can't live on my own until I'm 18. So you're the new neighbor? Yeah. I'm Zach, by the way. I'm Hannah. Hannah, get away from the window now. I gotta go.
01:20:51
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Hi. Hey, we're just moving in. You see that fence? Uh, yes. Stay on your side of it. He's a big teddy bear. Don't take it personally. He doesn't really like anyone. Yeah.
01:21:06
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Oh, Hannah's in trouble. Oh, who's Hannah? She's locked in this house, and her dad's a psychopath. Does she have a friend?
01:21:18
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Whoa. The Abominable Snowman of Pasadena? These are all Goosebumps manuscripts. Why are these books locked? Did you unlock a book? Oh, no. I'm sorry. I'll put it back where it belongs. Look, here it is. No, don't open it!
01:21:40
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Nobody make a sound. a The abominable snowman just crawled out of a book. That doesn't just happen. You just released every monster i've ever created. What was that? It's the invisible boy.
01:21:58
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Ow! He is such a cracker. The only way to stop them is to suck them back into the books. You've read them all right? Yeah, yeah, yeah! If we know their weaknesses, we can capture them all. We're the only ones who can do this.
01:22:12
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Oh my god, how'd you do that? Sour fillings. I have a ton of cavities. When I was 10, I didn't brush my teeth for a whole year. All right, plan anything you can to barricade the doors. We cannot let the monsters inside.
01:22:26
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just wanna break the rules.
01:22:34
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What are you doing? Get me out! No, no, no, no! Keep going! Come on, Maybe they're friendly. oh Not friendly.
01:22:54
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Definitely not friendly.
01:22:59
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Oh, you might need to get an STD check because I think those might be... Oh, no, never mind. They're goosebumps. You're fine. Andrew, tell us about goosebumps. The monsters are real. Andrew, that was a good one for me. You didn't even laugh. It was. I wasn't going to say anything. I was going to let you live in it. Go ahead. Keep going.
01:23:15
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The monsters are real. The question is, are you ready? When mysterious creatures from R.L. Stine's horror novels escape into the real world, a teenager and an author must stop the monsters from wreaking havoc on their town.
01:23:31
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directed by rob letterman written by darren lemke story by scott alexander and larry karaszewski produced by columbia pictures sony pictures animation um scholastic entertainment village roadshow a lot of people had their hands in this um and distributed by sony and columbia pictures rl stein is played by jack black zach cooper is played by dylan manette hannah fairchild is played by odaya rush Champ is played by Ryan Lee and Gail Cooper is played by Amy Ryan.
01:23:59
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This is PG, a family friendly flick coming in on 103 minutes. Locations for filming included Madison and Conyers, Georgia, released on October of 2015 with budget of 58 million and gross of 158 million. wide million and a gross of a hundred and fifty eight million so ah a wide swapper Yeah. um So, Maddie, is this your first time seeing Goosebumps? And what are your initial thoughts?
01:24:24
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And why do you why did we pick this for Halloween? um So it's not my first time seeing it, but I've only seen it twice before. I'm pretty sure. Just yeah, just twice. I haven't seen it a ton. um And like also I watch movies a lot.
01:24:37
Speaker
but I watch the same movies a lot over and over again. so That's what i'm trying to say there. Anyways, we picked it because I mean, like it's it's Goosebumps, but also because Dylan Minnette's in it. And I love Dylan Minnette. I just think he's such a little cutie.
01:24:48
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And I also just think it evokes like Goosebumps, the books always evokes like a spooky season kind of vibe. And I just thought, you know, look, Goosebumps books are an indelible part of our childhoods.
01:25:01
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And for many listeners out there of of of a certain generation, we were we were the the we were the kids when these were coming out. And we were the ones who were buying them on school order forms.
01:25:13
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Yeah. um and getting our moms and dads to buy them as much as we could. And, you know, creating a collection on our bookshelves and all the rest of it. And I was obsessed with Goosebumps when I was a kid. Me too. really wish I still had my books. I don't. I gave them to my nephews a long time ago and they probably, God knows what happened to them.
01:25:31
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I sold mine in a garage sale. I'm so mad at myself. That sucks. well You know what? not Now that we're real adults, Andrew, i would honestly love to buy the entire collection. I really would. I think that'd be so cool to have. Anyways, so, I mean, this is just a movie that is, this it screams nostalgia for us.
01:25:49
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And um I think they do a pretty good job with it. You know, what one of the things that I like about it is is actually one of the the points that that just kind of get made in our and in our ephemera about this. But it's just like they didn't just go for one of the Goosebumps books. They just went for like all of them, basically.
01:26:05
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And I think that was a really good approach because how do you only do one of them? These are short stories. You could expand on them if you wanted to They could have made an anthology where like – here's a two-hour block and we're going to do five different stories in it.
01:26:19
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Instead, I think they made the right choice. And they were like, what if we just had them all in one? What would that look like? And it looks like this movie. And it looks like a very charming and, let's face it, family-friendly movie movie that is really great for people to watch with their kids it's it during spooky season. like It's like entry. Yeah, entry horror. Exactly. And I think that's wonderful because when entry horror is done really well, um you know, kids fall in love with it.
01:26:47
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and And I think that's really special because this is a a genre that we love so much that we want to see continue and have new fans. And
Goosebumps Movie Analysis
01:26:54
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these are the kind of movies that do it. you know There's no fucking, you know, seven year old watching the exorcist. And frankly, there shouldn't be.
01:27:00
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um So like, you know, this is a great way to get kids into it and to have them understand, you know, like, Hey, this is what it's all about. It's about having scary fun sometimes. And I think that they do a really great job with this.
01:27:12
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I think too, that, ah that all the actors in it do a fantastic job. Jack Black is great as RL Stein in, in the way that only Jack Black could be. I think I'm glad that he toned out toned himself down for this role, too, yeah because it could have gone way too zany.
01:27:27
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But hes he he reigns it in I feel like. Yeah, but he is. But he's also just that signature, you know, the way he does his voice. He's signature Jack Black. Like, like it's just's unmistakably him. And he makes it fun. And especially in 2015, that's when Jack Black was still like really super popular.
01:27:42
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um Amy Ryan, I think, does a great job as the mom. um And look, there are some you know some some touching moments in this. Like, but you know, when they're they're moving into this new house and either they're unpacking the boxes and they pull out, you know, a photo of of of Zach and his dad.
01:27:56
Speaker
and i be fair, his dead dad would have been my... a Fair, true. um But, you know that's ah that's a you know, that's a really touching, tender moment right there, you know? It's classic goosebumps, too, to have, like, one absent parent. Like, you know what I mean? Exactly. Totally. Totally.
01:28:11
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And then, you know, on top of that, the kids are really good in this. Like, you i mean, Dylan, I don't know how dlan how old he was when he was doing this, but like he's he's perfect for the Zack Cooper role. um You know, I Dylan Minnette in his older years, you pervs, is very cute. I have a little crush on him.
01:28:27
Speaker
But like Dylan Minnette is, ah what what am I trying to say here? You know, he, would that he was in, that he was in, um, scream, which number? Four. Scream, scream. Was it scream four? No, five, five, five, five.
01:28:41
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Dylan Minnette is, If you also, if you don't know, Dylan Minnette is in a band called The Wallows. And i've i've i but they're they're very pretty popular now, so a lot of people know them. But if you don't know, he's in a band called The Wallows. He's the lead singer. And he's really good. Like, The Wallows are a pretty good fucking band, actually.
01:28:58
Speaker
um And I like them quite a bit. I've seen them live before. They're good. um Dylan Minnette, as he's gotten older, honestly, not the best actor. I'll be perfectly honest. Because he basically just can only do what he did himself. Yeah. Which is making a face and like talking like someone is about to kill him. That is basically all the dilemma that can do.
01:29:18
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If you want, if you want evidence of this, just go watch the open house. Oh, Oh, the open house. i Oh my God. The open house is not good. It's just not good. Anyways, in this one, he actually is good, I think. I think it works.
01:29:30
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it It totally clicks. He clicks with the other kids in this. That's good. um the The girl who plays Hannah, I think, is is lovely. ah Ryan Lee, who plays Champ, does a really great buddy in in in this in this movie.
01:29:43
Speaker
So I think the kids are good. I think the adults are good. I think, you know, obviously it's a big old budget, 58 million. They spent most of that on effects and on sets and they do a great job. And like the sets are so clever to like, how funny is it that, okay, in order to get all the monsters to go away, they have to write a new book. Well, RL has to write a new book.
01:30:02
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And the way he has to write a new book is with the typewriter that he has that is like a magic typewriter. And that typewriter is on display at the high school for some reason. I know. Right. So he has to go to the high school and it's in this like display case.
01:30:16
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And so he gets to he gets it and he's in the end like he's looking for a place to write. And so he goes into like the theater at the high school, the like like the auditorium or whatever. And what play are they doing? But a stage adaptation of The Shining, which is hilarious.
01:30:32
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And that's a callback. It's a callback too to earlier in the movie is that's how he gets how Dylan Minnette gets um him to reveal himself as Arl Stein as he makes like a joke about like, well, he's no Stephen King. Yeah, exactly. Totally.
01:30:45
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And so and so, of course, where does he write? He writes at the table where Jack Torrance would have been writing with his typewriter. Like, it's it's really clever that way. And it calls back and forth, as you just said there. So like, but but the sets make that real.
01:30:57
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And not only that, but like the the the um the carnival in the forest, like that is honestly pretty fucking cool. So like, what am I trying to say? I'm trying to say the movie really is a whole package, man. It's it's got this, it's got that, it's got all the stuff you like.
01:31:11
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Yeah, is it is it a PG Halloween movie? Of course it is. it's It is geared for kids. But I had fun watching it again. I really did. Yeah, no, and ah not to mention, there's a lot of people that just kind of show up in this movie. Like Ken marinno plays like the, I think he's a gym teacher in the movie. I couldn't quite get his character, but um there's a lot of like little characters that make here, you know, the cop ah person. Yeah, and I forget his name right now, but that was on you him and other stuff Yeah.
01:31:38
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yeah um um and even like the the female cop how she plays like she i think was really funny with when he opens the door and she just goes you're arrested i did like my favorite joke in the whole movie though is like he's like god forbid you be an audiophile and she goes you're what she pulls out her gun what are you yeah yeah um another the So like this, I agree with you on most parts. I think that, um, that this is a really like, uh, a family friendly, like really cool little callback movie. yeah
01:32:12
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Um, I think some of the dialogue here and there is a little bit forced. Um, yeah especially, especially with the champ character. um he, he almost goes too far for me, but he like, once again, kind of like Jack black, he kind of like restrains himself from being too annoying. I can see that. Yeah, I do. Um,
01:32:31
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and so like i i like that parts of it there's a lot of this that is ah really like um how do i put this there's a lot of it that like you never really feel like they're in danger like because they're always gonna like get out of it you know what i mean and so like the stakes don't feel that high but also they almost take out this like entire town like the the the uh the giant um what do you call that bug the giant praying mantis yeah um like takes out like a whole government building like and they burn down the school and stuff. So um it is funny that way.
01:33:03
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um But yeah, overall, I had a ton of fun. I knew like this was one where like sometimes with the movies that we're doing, it's either a movie that I've maybe seen before or a movie that I've like honestly avoided.
01:33:15
Speaker
And I'm not like excited to watch it. sometimes that's Sometimes that plays a trick on me and I end up really liking the movie. um But sometimes you know we watch A Demon House and I'm like, Jesus racestein mcal house to suck It sucked dick, did Jesus. um and so I like sucking dick. You know what i mean? Come on.
01:33:32
Speaker
And so I knew going into this, I was at least in for a good time. And so like that was, that made me, man that made me happy. And it's been a really long time since we've done a movie like this, where it's kind of like a more entry level horror movie.
01:33:44
Speaker
And I couldn't help but notice the ah story correlations to Hocus Pocus in this movie. If you really think about it, tell me more about that. um It's about a kid who sneaks into a place where he's not supposed to be and does a thing that he's not supposed to do.
01:34:01
Speaker
And ites ah it unleashes characters that, you know, they are they struggle to put back the entire rest of the movie. so and And a book is at the center of it all. Yep.
01:34:12
Speaker
Yep. I did not think about that. Andrew, well done, Sherlock. That's really good. Yeah. There's even a sequence where they're fighting the little lawn gnomes and they're Gulliver travel style, like locking up Jack Black and trying to put him into the oven. But they get put in the oven and get disintegrated but come back to life just like in Hocus Pocus. There you go.
01:34:35
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ah um um somebody on letterbox Andrew does have a really funny one here oh god this is from Karina who rated it three stars and says why does Dylan Manette only play sad boys that fall in love with girls named Hannah Oh, God, I didn't put that together. Yep, I didn't either. And now I'm like, oh, my God, that is absolutely fucking true.
01:34:55
Speaker
Yes, that is true. Another person, so this person is Shauna Shipman's Flannel. I don't know what that is. um But this person was watching this for a 31 Days of Horror Challenge. And day two apparently was ah a movie set in a school.
01:35:08
Speaker
And so ah Shauna says, I actually met R.L. Stine when I was about 10 years old. And I can confirm he was a huge grump. um And you know what, like, if if you look at the reviews, I think a lot of people kind of feel the same way that that we do about this, which is like, it's nostalgic.
01:35:24
Speaker
It's fun. It's great, whatever, you know, it's it's great. um It's great entry horror. And yeah, that kind of that kind of spells it out. Yeah. um A couple of things in this movie that I pointed out that were you know pretty funny.
01:35:38
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um There's ah well, we should say that there is a cameo by the actual R.L. Stein in this movie. Yeah. He ah is at the end. He is the new teacher and a Jack Black calls him like, oh, hey, Mr. Black.
01:35:53
Speaker
because it's kind of like a callback to like, oh, he's Stein, he's black, but they're actually opposite of each other. it's pretty funny. um um
Entry-Level Horror Movies Discussion
01:36:02
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ah Some of the lines in this that I thought, there was one line in this, and I you probably didn't even catch it because it's it's that catch it or you miss it.
01:36:09
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yeah And it's the mom, when he when he first hears Hannah in trouble, and he goes to his mom, she's in the middle of like meal planning or something, and she goes, how does quinoa sound for dinner? Oh. I did hear that and I was like, because I actually just had quinoa this week. So maybe that's why it was in my in my ear. But I was like, are you going to have anything else? Right. It's quinoa? That's insane. It's not actually a full meal. and you know i'm just letting you know that.
01:36:38
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That's funny. um ah There is another throwaway line that I thought was pretty. There's there's a lot of like little zingers in here that I think are really funny. The the the principal at the end of the assembly, he goes, and if anyone is caught with their butt facing their partner at the dance, he will be sent home immediately. That was pretty funny.
01:36:56
Speaker
ah And the fact that um they picked the Abominable Snowman um as the first book. I thought it was funny when Jack Black, R.L. Stine says, oh, you couldn't have picked Little Shop of Hamsters as the first book? Right. Totally. Yeah. um I love the inclusion of Slappy being the kind of like ah like the big bad. if you will of the movie and because you know and anyone that's familiar with the goosebumps books are very familiar with slappy and revenge of the you know the dumb the dummy um and so that was fun to see him like take like the leadership role of like the monsters but you know if you look kind of in those like big shots where it shows a bunch of them you can kind of like point out like oh that's that one that's from that one that's from that one
01:37:40
Speaker
And so that's kind of a fun thing for just like, you know, a people that are very familiar with this. But with these books, um one thing that I saw that was kind of like a little bit of a background thing is that when they they break into the basement, there's a cuckoo clock down there. And that's the cuckoo clock of doom from the books. Yeah.
01:37:58
Speaker
um But yeah, I think um there's a lot of really funny parts. I think that the o the aunt in and of herself is so funny to me. And that actress has gone on to do many other funny things. But when she is like, oddly obsessed with like, how, um how good looking her ah nephew is.
01:38:16
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yeah would away funny um And when she runs into the when she runs into the police station and she like hits the door and she's like, oh, wrong door. i don't know. There's just like little like small things that are just like really funny.
01:38:27
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I think it's hilarious that um Slappy calls R.L. Stein Papa. Yeah. That is funny. Which I think do you I didn't have this in my notes, but I think that Jack Black also voices slappy.
01:38:41
Speaker
if Does that sound right? ah You know what? I didn't check on it, to be honest with you. But that I mean, look, the voice sounds like it's probably him. Because it sounds like he's putting an affectation on his own voice, but there are a couple of parts where Slappy makes mention of like, I am you and you are me. and like oh that makes sense.
01:38:59
Speaker
Like you wouldn't exist without me and like stuff like that. So that led me to believe that he did both. Do you think he got paid extra for that? No, probably not. i think But I'm sure of the 58 million, I'm sure he did just fine. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, a lot of that was going to him.
01:39:12
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um And so I just think that this one's a little bit of a love letter to you know our generation, but also introducing some of these things to new generations, which is always fun. And
Character Relationships in Goosebumps
01:39:22
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I highly encourage with filmmakers to kind of You know, everything doesn't have to be blood and guts and so serious. We can still have fun with horror and still have it be a little more little more family friendly. And you know what? this i I'd say that we should maybe take a look at doing, you know, we haven't done one of these in a very long time I can't remember the last one that we did. honest, like we should yeah we should explore more of these. it would ever maybe even be fun to do an episode where we do only entry horror.
01:39:48
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Entries are terrifying. There you go. And then, okay, so this was the this was the one thing that you, like, as an adult, you think about, but yeah as a kid, you would never think about. So, like, the whole crux of the movie is that Hannah is actually a character from the books. Like she's either like a, i think she's, you she's probably like a a, ghost of certain kind or something.
01:40:14
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um And so she, when they so gets all sucked up into the book at the end, she goes into the book as well. And it's, you know, touching and it's sad. um and But then he writes a new book for her to come back. And, you know, that's also touching and sad, but I have my notes.
01:40:26
Speaker
um So are they like obligated to be together forever now? Because they're only in high school. came back just for him. And also like, does she, does she change like like is she real is she gonna grow up because that would also be kind of weird i'm just saying like what actually happens with this person it's it's cute and all but like what the fuck yeah it just leads you like as an adult you think about things just like a little differently and you're like wait a minute and like and kids aren't thinking that they're like oh yeah that's cool like you know but it's that's kind of weird not gonna lie I do. And I do think it's funny that um Slappy, you know, ah breaks R.L. Stine's fingers, but then like he still just goes on like he has broken face. Like he drives a bus. you know um
01:41:11
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ah And I do call bullshit on the on the um fake a bus because that bus is steering. And how would it be steering if there was no person in the driver's seat?
01:41:22
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but and you know but By the way, thinking about the budget, right there actually are conflicting reports about the budget. If you were to put in marketing and distribution costs, which would be part of it, it's actually closer to $84 million for this movie. Wow.
01:41:38
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Yeah, that seems about right. I remember when this movie was coming out, it was a huge deal. like There was like a lot lot around it. Absolutely. um
Film Ratings and Nostalgia
01:41:45
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But yeah, I think that does it for Goosebumps. you want to grade this one?
01:41:49
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Sure. Yeah, I gave it a five. And I said, you know, look, I think this is a great one for the youngsters. It's fun. It's scary for kids. And it's heartfelt. Andrew and I grew up with Goosebumps in a way that maybe kids today like can't understand. like it was like Yeah, there's novels for kids, but nothing like this. that ah and and And so many of them.
01:42:08
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um It really did just blow us away. So for me, this was a great piece of nostalgia. And it was honestly fun to watch. Yeah, i'm going to give this a four and a half. I said it's fun entry horror for younger generation while still giving us Goosebumps reader enough as nostalgia to hold on to.
01:42:23
Speaker
Nice. Well, Andrew, that does it.
'Is This Candy Queer?' Game Segment
01:42:25
Speaker
Actually, it does it for our episode, doesn't it, Andrew? But we'll be right back before we close it out with a little game.
01:42:35
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Why so glum, chum? I lost all my trick-or-treat candy. Take some of mine.
01:42:50
Speaker
Let's go get some more. Sure, let me go ask my mom. Nobody says boo to Hershey's.
01:43:02
Speaker
Well, folks, that does it for episode 151 of the 13th Horror Podcast. But before we go, as always, we have a little game for you. And Andrew has devised yet another crazy game.
01:43:13
Speaker
This one is called Is This Candy Queer? Andrew, tell us all about it. um we're going to go through some of the popular candies of Halloween, and we are going to assign them rolls.
01:43:25
Speaker
So you'll kind of see how this evolutionizes. I put the easiest one first, and we can kind of go from there on what we think. If we think that these candies, if they were embodied as people, would they be queer or would they be something else?
01:43:39
Speaker
Okay. And so we're going to start with the easiest one. And I think you'll agree with me. Skittles. Gaps of the gay. Skittles are like the twink running around on pride Sunday, going crazy at the festival. Like they are. Skittles. Skittles is a bottom.
01:43:55
Speaker
Yes, of course. Yes, yes. I agree with you. And they're not ashamed of it. ah Like a power bottom. Yes, I agree. All right. a little hard And end it like it like wears like, like shoes.
01:44:07
Speaker
you know what mean? Yeah. Like that's no, like every, like every, every ounce of clothing either has like a patch of a, of a rainbow or like, uh, it sneaks in there somehow. So it's like, it's like, you know, like there's that power bottom, like that they always got to wear shoes. you know what mean? And like, but you don't have to do that kind of thing, but yeah, this, this one does, it does.
01:44:26
Speaker
All right. The next one is Butterfinger. Butterfinger. Butterfinger is not gay. I think that Butterfinger is a straight man, but he likes his girlfriend to put it up the butt every once in a while. yeah You know what I mean? that Yeah, I can see that. it's just like like Butterfinger is like the thing that you you do like it, but it's also kind of annoying. Because it gets in your teeth, yeah. Well, that's just it. And like you're like, oh, yeah yeah that's that yeah, that is nice, but also, like why am I eating this? like that's That's how I feel am about it. I don't think it's gay.
01:44:56
Speaker
Yeah, I think Butterfinger is like that um straight guy that you have to talk to in the office, but you don't really have anything in common, but you still make conversation. Yeah, I agree with you on this. Yes. All right. The third one, Reese's Cups.
01:45:08
Speaker
Gay, and it's a bear. Really? Yeah, it's a bear, and also it's a bottom. Hmm. I was thinking that this was like the straightest one. No, i think it's like the most like a common.
01:45:21
Speaker
There's just something about it that is just like, I look at it I'm like, yeah, you're a, you're going to be at SoFo in Chicago probably like that's, yeah you're going to be at like the, the daddy's party. Like, and you're a, you're a Reese's cup.
01:45:31
Speaker
I guess with those like decorative grooves on the side, maybe that makes them a little more gay. There's just something about it. There is. All right. The next one is Starburst. Starburst is, yes, it's a gay and it's a lesbian.
01:45:44
Speaker
i can agree with that. It's a lesbian and it's, well, it's a lesbian. She's like a, she's like a teacher and like she, like she like lives in like Vermont.
01:45:58
Speaker
that's But she like lets her hair down on the weekends. Oh, 100%. Without a doubt. And she like, she probably like makes her own like moonshine or something. You know what i mean? like She's crafty. She's crafty. Yeah. Like it's, it's, she like, she knows what she's doing.
01:46:12
Speaker
She knows what she's doing. And like, she's, she's chewy in that way. I don't know. It just makes sense. She's malleable. Yeah. She can, she can fit in with anybody. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. The next one is Snickers. Yeah.
01:46:24
Speaker
Snickers is a straight man. Let's be honest. I do. No, I really do love a Snickers. I do. Like in real life. But I do Snickers is kind straight. like a straight man sometimes. i Yeah, I don't think that Snickers is gay. I think i think Snickers is is complicated.
01:46:40
Speaker
but I don't think it's gay. i think he also might've been like a high school bully, if I'm being honest. A little bit, but like he got, he got like better as he got older. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. then He like met his wife and she like helped shape. He like, he like reform, like he wears like, now he wears like, like he wears fun t-shirts now.
01:46:57
Speaker
Um, all right. Sweet tarts. ah Gay. Um, but like, Um, was this like then this is like the nerd gay, the one that goes to like, um, like, like cons and stuff, but still like fits in. i could kind of see that. I could kind of, but I i think Sweet Tarts is younger for sure. yeah like it's ah it's it's It's a baby gay is what I think they're just coming out. Yeah.
01:47:19
Speaker
Yeah. I would agree. All right, the next one, one of our favorites, whatchamacallits. Gay, 100% gay. This is a mature gay. I was leaning towards non-binary. Oh, I'd say, i want um maybe, I could kind of see that. But I but i think for me, like this is like, like i think I think I'm a whatchamacallit, I'll be honest. It kind of describes like a like a me.
01:47:42
Speaker
It just does. like That should be my costume every year now. Yeah, I was kind of leaning more towards like asexual or like non-binary, like it's still figuring it out is like it has a lot of ingredients. And so it doesn't really quite know like what to call itself yet. And so it could see that point of view, too.
01:47:59
Speaker
Yeah. All right. And we have two more. um I think one is very straight and one is very gay, but they are in the same shape. And that is M&Ms and Reese's Pieces. I think M&Ms are a straight guy And I think that he's a follower.
01:48:14
Speaker
He doesn't he's not an alpha male. He kind of just is there. He exists. And he takes like he's like the guy that like is like trying to get. well is it Is it all is it all M&Ms? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
01:48:26
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um But we'll go classic for this one. Like, just like the normal Eminem. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, he's like, yeah, he's like the right hand man of like the like alpha male guy. i mean, yeah, i I would agree with it. Like, I like a peanut Eminem. I do.
01:48:41
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I like a... And like some of the other funky ones. Peanut butter is the best one. Yeah, like the peanut butter. And there's like a pretzel one for a while. You know, that kind of shit. The plain M&Ms, I could care less about. know what I mean? And I think that's... I think it's just a... It's a straight dude.
01:48:56
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I'm sorry. Yeah. And then finally, Reese's Pieces, which I think are the gay version of M&Ms. Yeah, I could see that. And and um and I... i You know, I like Reese's Pieces.
01:49:07
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I love them. They're delicious. There's just like that that
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01:49:11
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flavor when you bite into it. It's a super unique flavor. um i just i think it's so good. Around Easter this time, of yeah this time last year, they had Reese's Pieces Eggs, which were really good. I'll tell you what, listen. nothing Nothing beats a Reese's Egg around Easter. Nothing at all. it's It's like one of the best things in the fucking world. It's so fucking good.
01:49:33
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And let's be honest, if you're the if you're the um the the candy of choice for E.T., you're a little bit gay. Natty, I'm right. Come on. E.T. Gay. Yes, I agree. So that was our game.
01:49:45
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Is this candy queer? Andrew, another banger. Now, listen, before we let you go, couple couple things as always. um If you want to support us, I already talked about this at the start of the show, but you can do that really easily. Remember, we are an independent podcast. We don't have anyone else giving us anything.
01:50:02
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So, and, and also guess what? It takes money to to run a podcast. There's a lot of stuff we have to pay for. Um, so if you want to help us out, you can, you can go to fregay13.com slash support. And when you're there, there's a link that will give you the link to the Patreon.
01:50:16
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You can become a member, whatever level you want, but we say this all the time, just become a dollar member. That's totally fine. Um, and if there's an, we'd rather have a bunch of you at a dollar than only a few of you at whatever the hell else we have.
01:50:29
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um And also, Andrew, i i will take this one because um i'm I'm really happy to hear this. He sent me a message on Instagram, too. We do have a new patron and it is Zach Frank, one my old pals. Zach and I met each other our freshman year in college. We were both at the same dorm um in Forest. I was on Forest 9B. I can't remember what floor you were on, Zach.
01:50:50
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um And Zach and I were both in theater. um And ah yes, it was really great to hear from Zach and also um to hear that he's been listening to our show for so long. So Zach, thank you for becoming a patron.
01:51:02
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And also look just to all my, to all my New York pals out there, but there was a big loss in, in our friend group. And and you know Andrew and Michael are heading out there next week, actually for, um,
01:51:13
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for memorial service, but thinking about all of you, and I'm thinking about you especially, Zach, because you guys were such dear, close friends. So my heart goes out to all you, and thank you again for the support.
01:51:26
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So Andrew, all that being said, it's Halloween time. Here we are. And really, there's just one thing that comes to mind for me to give everybody as a Halloween wish, Andrew, and that is for all of them to go out there and to...
01:51:42
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Get slain!