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S1E9 - The One Where Underdog Gets Away
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Join Alasdair and DeeAnn as they discuss Thanksgiving traditions, junk drawers and singing to unborn babies!
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Return to Recording and Book Introduction
00:00:05
Speaker
Well hello and welcome to the latest episode of the Purple Door podcast, a friend's rewatch pod. I'm your host Alistair, alongside my good friend Dean, and hello Dean, how are you?
00:00:16
Speaker
I am great, Al. Just living life and being a happy girl. How are you? Wonderful. Doing very well. yeah We haven't recorded in a week or two, so I'm kind of excited to get back into the routine of doing this. I've had questions ready for you, I've had thoughts about the episodes, and I'm just ready to share and discuss and record that record with you.
00:00:39
Speaker
Yes, me too, me too. Yeah, I will tell you, I have started reading a friend's book that of course I can show you, but can't show anybody else. But it's a by a lady called Kelsey Miller, simply, I'll be there for you, the one about friends. And I've listened to, it you know, numerous friend's books or things about behind the scenes and some of that stuff's in here, but also a ton of new information I didn't know.
00:01:05
Speaker
So I'm only, um maybe a quarter of the way through it, um but it's been really, really good. So I've got a secret plan that, as we get better at this and all of that, maybe seeing if she'll come on the podcast and talk about writing a friend's book, because this one's really good. That, okay, awesome. Well, I'm excited to hear some of the stuff that you're learning that's new and different in that book.
Friends Trivia and Season 1, Episode 9 Review
00:01:31
Speaker
And, um, yeah, it's it's just been lots of the sort of like name dropped little things in the episodes. Oh, I'm going to get this wrong now, but we're way into the future in the show when Ross does the quiz, um, where the girls bet the apartment, um they you know, watch Rachel's favorite movie and they see weekend of bunnies. I think the chap that stars in that movie was Matthew. I think it was Matthew Perry's childhood friend.
00:02:01
Speaker
and they grew up together. So it was a little sort of a little call out to him, like little things like that. And I might have the details of that wrong. housing i but Things like that, these little subtle things in the show, they're actually a nod to somebody or something else.
00:02:18
Speaker
Right, that nobody would even necessarily pick up on it except for that person. Exactly. Or it's people that ran with that group. Right. Oh, so I'll let you know. It's really, really good. Okay. I know there's an audio book out there too of it. So anyway, as I think and you know, stuff.
00:02:41
Speaker
I am a big old fan of the audio books. I love an audio book, but when we posted this on our social media, I went to, you know, the friend's set in the friend's shop at Warner Brothers. It was the actual book was the same price as the audio books. I just got the book so I could start reading on the plane. And it was for sale in the friend's shop. So I thought, well, this must be good. Right. This is various books about friends. This is the only one for sale at Warner Brothers. So I figured it was worth getting.
00:03:11
Speaker
there goll So yeah, if you're looking for a friend's book, I'll be there for you the one about friends by Kelsey Miller I'm sure we'll be referencing it as we keep recording. But today we are reviewing let's see season one after episode nine It's the one where underdog gets away and the very first holiday themed Friends episodes which are often some of the favorites of fans. so I'm super excited to get stuck into this and But if you're ready to play Bamboozled, I've miss missed asking and answering questions with you. All right. Yes, I'm ready. OK, so do you want me to go first? Go for it. Yeah, I've got like seven or eight questions. I'm prepared this week. Whoa. OK.
00:03:53
Speaker
see, I've only got five. So right we may have some of the same. So you go ahead. Always. All right. So whenever ah we're going to start off with a hard one. All right. And I say that we'll see. Maybe not. Right. So whenever ah Ross goes over to Susan and Carol, he's there to pick something up. What's he there to pick up?
00:04:21
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He is there to pick up a skull. Nice. There we go. All right. Off to a good start. Had to think that one through. It didn't come
Thanksgiving Traditions and Humor in Friends
00:04:32
Speaker
straight to me. All right. Well, on that note, I'm going to jump ahead to one of my questions that is not i'm going out of order on my list because it's from, I think, the same scene. Given the clues in that scene, what job can we infer that Carol has?
00:04:51
Speaker
Oh. Oh, that Carol has. Yeah, sorry. She's at a faculty meeting. So I would assume that she is in education. That's what I put down. Yes, because I think she may have also borrowed the skull for a class. I don't I didn't write that down. But it was the faculty meeting. Yes. Yes. A fellow educator.
00:05:14
Speaker
All right, right. Because I even wrote that in my notes that Carol's at a faculty meeting. I think we find that later she teaches the first or second grade or something, but I could be making that up. OK. We'll find that.
00:05:27
Speaker
Well, what's your question, too? OK, well, then we're going to stay in the same scene. I love it. Great. As ah Carol and and Ross are, you know, they're looking through the apartment to see if they see the skull. yeah There's a box underneath the TV that's from a store.
00:05:50
Speaker
What box is it or what store? Goodness, I have absolutely no idea. So I'm going to guess, what's the one where Phoebe gets that apothecary table? Is that Creighton Baron? Pottery Barn. That's for the apothecary table from this time of yore. That's right. So I'll go with Pottery Barn, final answer. Great guess, but it's actually Lance End.
00:06:21
Speaker
Oh, I didn't catch it. Which is a fashion and apparel store because I was like, I have heard of lands in, but I don't really know what that is. So that's a strange thing for me to have a box under your TV in your living room, but whatever. I do not have a box under my TV. No. Well, I, I have, I have DVD boxes.
00:06:47
Speaker
Right, i suppose right. ah So I mean, you know, that's that's a little different. I mean, like my my friends that they're currently not underneath there. They're in my bedroom where I watch. But right. But that's where, you know, we have like a 10 for like Star Wars and stuff like that. But it's just a regular cardboard box that has the lands and like a What's that called? but we' go for the Yeah, exactly. And you got to think again, in my head, is that deliberate? Is that, ah you know, somebody's putting that there and you know, legal or whatever, like, yeah, we've got to know who's there. Right, right. That, yeah, because there's branding and, and all the things. So like, yeah, product brands right yeah all of there you go. Yes, exactly.
00:07:39
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All right. Well, let's try and see if it'd be funny if I had another one from that scene. I don't. So we're going all the way back to the beginning of the episode. After Rachel asks a regular customer for an advance on her tips, how much does she say she has to go? Oh, whenever she asks the customer?
00:08:02
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Yes. And then I think he 98 50 98 50 left to go 50. Yes. Yes. Okay. So then how much does she end up having to go? I knew and why I knew was okay. i'll I'll get half a point possibly because it's something like $103 because she breaks a cup.
00:08:27
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It's 102, you're right. i
00:08:33
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so Okay, all right, I'm ready. All right, I think this is a tricky one. Okay. What is Joey snacking on while Monica is cooking a Thanksgiving dinner? Oh no. I have that one, it's a bag of mini marshmallows. It is indeed. I stole your question. I have that one right here. What is Joey snacking on?
00:08:54
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is funny Yeah, it's me that said that said I don't know that's a funny snack I couldn't sit and eat marshmallows like one after the other. ah Yeah ah
00:09:06
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That's funny because for Christmas, from one of our friends, we got like a basket and it had like homemade bread and then this big jar of a cocoa mix and and a little baggie of marshmallows. And so last time that we had the snow and everything, we used that and we made cocoa with it and everything. And we used about half the baggie and then we've snacked on. And the baggie is, of course, now empty. Right.
00:09:35
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That is something that we'll randomly get eaten at our house. I like it. Okay. Alright, so I was going to ask this question and then I ran across a website that marks out like the scenes because you know how we were going back and forth like how there was that whole scene at the end where they were singing and you never even saw it?
Script Differences and Character Analysis
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Yes.
00:10:01
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Okay, so I found a website that has the scripts of the episodes, but then has it highlighted in blue the parts that are removed from everywhere else, but are on that season or that first on the DVD box set.
00:10:22
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And so my next question was going to be about that. And you wouldn't know because you didn't want to. Yeah. So it's just going to be a fun fact about that. A fun fact. I was going to ask you about what Ross said about the yams.
00:10:44
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because Phoebe walks in, she's got a bag full of yams. And he's like, what is that? And she's like, what do you mean, what is that? It's yams. And so she's holding like a sweet potato, right? And he's like, no, that's not yams. They come in the purple can because you know he's comparing to his mom's Thanksgiving the whole time. But that scene was highlighted blue. So I was like, and that's not a question, but it's a fun fact. I've not seen that, yeah. I find that fascinating, again, that they've cut little bits of pieces for whatever reason.
00:11:20
Speaker
Okay, but can I ask a question for real? All right, so what is Joey's name in the poster campaign? And Rachel or Monica calls him it at the end. That would be my question number three for you, which is Mario. Good old Mario, or I should say poor Mario. That's right. Okay. Well, I'm glad you've taken that one of my questions too.
00:11:49
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So let's see, how long in feet is the underdog balloon? 80 feet. He is. Why, you got that straight away. No matter what. I did. 80 feet. That's a number question and I did not write that one down, but that sure was stuck in my head. Yes. Yeah. You got another one for me?
00:12:10
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Um, yeah. Oh, I absolutely can. But whenever we get to the scene, whenever we're talking, I want to talk for a little bit about it. and What song is Ross singing to the baby? And he rewrites some of the words. You've got one of my other questions again. Of course I Because I thought, this well, the song I thought the song was called, Hey, hey, where the monkeys by the monkeys, but the songs that the actual title of the song is simply the monkeys by the monkeys. So yes. Yes. And then sometimes whenever you see it, it'll have the parentheses that say, Hey, where the monkeys. but Yeah. It's a very, uh, not a deep dive, a shallow dive into that. Cause it's one of those songs I knew and I knew who sung it, but I didn't actually know what the name was. So did a little Google of that.
00:13:06
Speaker
Awesome. Let's see. What was the, uh, Joey bumps into a former work colleague at the subway station. What was her job? She was a perfume girl, but I couldn't. And I watched that scene a few different times cause I was trying to pick up what perfume it was because he says you're the something, something lady. You're the obsession lady. Obsession. Obsession.
00:13:34
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, I couldn't. Okay. All right. Yes. is She knew when to spritz and when to do that. Um, okay. Oh, I do. I have got really one more for you after. All right. So with Chandler's own personal Thanksgiving dinner, which we saw at the end of, you know, everybody ends up taking part in.
00:14:03
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This is the grilled cheese and the tomato soup. And what's the other piece of that meal? It's in a glass bowl on the table.
00:14:15
Speaker
I have no idea at all. So what could go with that soup? What could it be? What would be in a glass bowl? I have because everything I can think of would be something holiday-ish related.
00:14:33
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I have no idea at all. It's Funyuns. Funyuns. Uh-huh. Whenever she gives him the bag whatever she gives them the bag, it's got the grilled cheese, the tomatoes, and then a family sized bag of Funyuns. And I thought it was so funny. At the end, you know nobody's having the soup. like You don't see the soup anywhere. But in that glass bowl, I'm like, what is that? And they're Funyuns. They put the Funyuns in her pretty like crystal bowl.
00:15:03
Speaker
I cannot wait to see these, these scenes. Now it's funny, my final question is about the final scene, but it might not be the final scene for you. Oh. So it's how many times does Joey rip the poster in the subway station?
00:15:25
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Okay. That, that was the final scene. You're right. and So I was, yes, that was just a little, the little thing where he's ripping it, right? Yes, just rips the bottom. Yeah, I didn't even write anything down, so I'm going to have to guess. All right. OK, so. I know he rips it once.
00:15:51
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I know he ends up leaving it on the Tony Awards. Yes. And then I know. i So one.
00:16:03
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I know one of them says hemorrhoids. Yes. And then I feel like there's at least one other one.
00:16:13
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Four? Four is correct. Is it really? Well done. Yes. Exactly. He rips it four times. So I guess you see five different things because it's one before he rips it. But yet he rips it four times.
00:16:30
Speaker
That's fantastic. That was a good, I'm glad to glad have Bamboozled back. So fun. Yeah, we actually watched the episode with Bamboozled in it. Last night we forgot how funny that is and how Chandler wasn't into the game to begin with. Oh. Stupid. And then him and Ross, hopping bonuses, all of that yeah stuff. Just so good. I can't wait to get to that.
00:16:55
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and I can't wait either. And because I'll tell you, I haven't watched that episode in a long, long time. But I remember the one where they go, Oh, that's interesting. Yes. We hadn't seen it in a long time. i It's so good. But we don't want to spoil that episode in the future. No. So if we go back to the one with when underdog gets away, we start in Central Park. Let's see. Rachel's asking Terry for the hundred dollar advance.
Actor Insights and Critique of Ross
00:17:21
Speaker
And I do love the way he says she's a terrible, terrible waitress. You know, she says she's trying hard, but seems like everybody in Central Park needs coffee. Yes. Yeah. Because then she's, I'm sorry, but I think I'm getting better. Now this guy, Terry. Yes. I think he is, he is only in, is it two episodes of Friends? I know he's, he's in this one.
00:17:51
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i I'm not sure if he's in or just referred to in another episode. I'm not sure. why He is in, oh, he's in three episodes. Okay. Okay. As Adam having to look, because I had seen that he was in two and I was like, I don't know if that's right, but three is what it is. But he's actually well known for Alf.
00:18:15
Speaker
So I've never, I know of Alf, but I'd never seen it. And I did a little deep diving into this Terry character too. And that was the main thing that came up where he was the dad in the family that was in Alf, is that right? So doing some digging around, I think I've forgotten how to actually write his actual name down, but msn.com had a very interesting article. He seemed to have a pretty sordid past.
00:18:45
Speaker
Yeah, Max Wright is his name. Max Wright. There we go. He was arrested several times for drunk driving, was caught by his wife having a affair with men and picking up men on the street for encounters. And MSN and other news outlets interviewed several of these men. He allegedly was in some adult films and other things with these men. These are all allegations, of course. He passed away a few years ago.
00:19:11
Speaker
There's several news outlets reported this that he had a sort of six yeah pretty successful career, but then his life crashed and burned afterwards and his wife divorced him after decades, I think, when all of this came to light. So I kind of set end for this guy in a lot of ways. yeah i I had no idea about all of this. Well, I see Rachel asked the customer for an advance on her tips and then Monica enters to tell Ross that our parents their parents are going to Puerto Rico for Thanksgiving with the Rhinements. That was going to be a trivia question for you, the name of the people. Oh. bitter i I didn't even. it re I'm so glad you didn't ask it because I didn't even pick up that they were going with somebody. I thought they were just going. i The Rhinements invited them. Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? I have not. So Kate's due past the week.
00:20:09
Speaker
eight or nine years ago now he was from Puerto Rico so we went for a celebration of life there and I remember that yeah we saw some of the touristy stuff and that was great but really we got to see what life is truly like because of course his entire family was there so a beautiful place yeah yeah that's awesome i've I've heard that it is very very beautiful yeah we loved it there well I see Joey enters wearing the makeup he was modeling for the the city free clinic that we've discussed
00:20:39
Speaker
that was that was a great scene or a great part of this scene where he enters with that makeup cake to his face wait wait now before we get to Joey can we go back and just talk about Ross and no they're not no they're not right I'm calling mom like yes acting a bit like I just had a hate on him for just a minute because what the heck man a little bit. So Katie Condren, if you happen to be listening to this episode of Cole Walker and formerly of Deanne as well. Katie did bring up the, she was the the one I think I told you about the end who brought up the, uh, she loves Ross.
00:21:23
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and wanted to defend Ross's honor um a few weeks ago in the hallway. Oh, Katie. So a little shout-out to Katie Fendron, who's a faithful Saturday listener, she told me, when she's doing her cleaning. Aww. Yeah, you didn't tell me it was Katie. You told me about that. You didn't. I Aww.
00:21:45
Speaker
I hope she's having a great time cleaning and she should give her good dog a pat for us. you She made some comment about cleaning the other day and she was like between my hair and Lucy's hair and Lucy is a gold retriever. Yes. Hair at her place and I said I will not hear a bad word about Lucy. Lucy is the greatest dog in the world.
00:22:04
Speaker
there you go yes yeah no i don't believe katie katie just quit shedding yes Lucy is the best dog beautiful golden dreamer but yeah we're also acting a bit like a spoiled child in in my mind here yes oh yeah through the whole episode the whole episode okay so anyway he comes back you know he comes back in after checking with his mom and dad so Monica offers to cook Thanksgiving at her house and that's when Ross putting himself his needs fast request that the potatoes with lumps now what are your Thanksgiving traditions do you have many in your household
00:22:42
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Um, yeah, well, yeah, we do. All right. Thanksgiving has always been one of my most favorite holidays. Like I love it because, um, that's one of the two times a year that my extended family.
00:23:01
Speaker
Get together and so my cousins that I grew up with i've I've got three male cousins and we're all grown and have our own families and then my brother and whenever we were little and growing up we would always go to um Our Graham's house, which is my my mom and my aunt's mom, or and then whenever she passed, it um Thanksgiving changed to always being at my aunt's house and Christmas was at my mom's house. and so Those are the two times a year that we all get together. and
00:23:36
Speaker
It's always so fun because it's so loud and it's just laughing and talking and and is it's so fun now as adults because we get to all get together but seeing our kids play and interact and you know it's Like a traditional shift. Yeah. Yeah. And, but my aunt, Oh my gosh. Okay. So it is not Thanksgiving. If you don't have her broccoli rice casserole, broccoli, broccoli, rice, cheese casserole. And she makes these cornflake potatoes. And so for me, it is not Thanksgiving without those two things.
00:24:21
Speaker
I love that. And then at whenever Joseph and I got married and where' we're coming up on 18 years, and you know he him and his mom and his sister kind of joined our family and added more, um just more people, more fun, more happy. ah But they also have their tradition where there's this marshmallow dish.
00:24:47
Speaker
And it's got like some fruit and marshmallows and it's really sweet and and good and it's not Thanksgiving without those. those three things. Yeah. And then you kind of add to it and add to it. But those, that's the thing is everybody gets together and it might not always be right on Thanksgiving day because you know, we've got the boys, two of them are close now. And one of them lives down in college station with his family, but we make sure everybody is together.
Thanksgiving Comparisons and Parade Appreciation
00:25:23
Speaker
Good. That's what it's all about. Yeah. What about y'all? So it's funny because obviously I grew up and didn't have Thanksgiving. Oh, that's true. Yeah. No such thing. But it has evolved into my favorite holiday because for me, it's not about gifts. It's not about anything. That's just about being together. That's the purpose. That being said, we do do it differently every year. um Sometimes we're at like Kate's mums in the morning.
00:25:50
Speaker
And then we go to her in-laws in the afternoon. Not her in-laws, sorry. My other in-laws in the afternoon. And it's a big, busy day. But there's other years where, like, I think this year Kate's mum went up to New Jersey to visit ah one of her sons. So she was up there. And so suddenly, there was really no family around. that And I don't think we actually did anything. Sometimes all of our kids are with us. Sometimes they're sort of dispersed.
00:26:18
Speaker
um So even though it's my favorite holiday, we do different things every year. um yeah I do love watching the parade, the Macy's Day, Thanksgiving Day Parade. did um Yeah, I just, it's on in the background. To me, that's sort of the kickoff of that the holiday season all the way through to through to January, is watching the parade. Yeah, that's just something. So yeah, no real traditions um outside of maybe the normal sorts of things, because it like I said, it changes every year. but
00:26:49
Speaker
I love it. I absolutely love Thanksgiving. That's awesome. So let's see, but Joey is going home and then Phoebe is celebrating in December because of her grandma's new boyfriend and wait that sort of thing. Yes, go ahead. I want to ask a question. I'm sorry. Before that. Okay. So yes. And how short-sighted, like, yeah, you don't have Thanksgiving where you grew up, but do you all have like a random holiday that y'all celebrate that's a big deal that like we, everywhere else doesn't have?
00:27:24
Speaker
So not really. There are holidays like Barns Night. It's sort of a thing where you, so Robbie Barns was a famous Scottish poet long, long time ago. And that's sort of become a day where he, is or an evening where he is celebrated. But it's not like it's a holiday or anything. That's just really the most Scottish. There is a St. Andrews Day, which is really Scotland's national day. But again, it's not something that's really celebrated.
00:27:52
Speaker
In fact, it's celebrated more outside of Scotland by expats, by people who have moved away. um You know, like in Dallas, on Barns Night, there's a's several different Scottish celebrations where Scottish people get together. um So it's almost celebrated more outside of Scotland than inside. A bit like St. Patrick's Day in Ireland. I'm not Irish, I've never been there for St. Patrick's Day.
00:28:19
Speaker
But it's more of an outside of Ireland thing, I think. you know They're not dying dying the rivers green in Dublin, whereas they are in Chicago and things like that. and That may just be due to the sheer volume of people in bigger cities around the world. But it's, yeah, so yeah, Scotland doesn't really have that same oomph like it does here for even Halloween and things like that. you know It's just not the same as here. So okay there's it.
00:28:49
Speaker
There's a wee lesson for you today. There's that. Let's see. So I'm trying to say, yeah, so Jo is going home and Phoebe is celebrating in December, but we do go straight over to Susan and Carol's apartment where we've talked about this a little bit. In in Bamboozled, where Susan welcomes Ross into there to get the skull that Carol borrowed. Any comments about all the books about being a lesbian?
00:29:14
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um I'm not a big fan of Carol, you know, ever since she kind of tried to insert herself a bit too much, I feel in the whole baby naming thing. um Susan, Susan, sorry, Susan. Okay. um But then I do think, I can't decide if her sense, I think I quite like her sense of humor. It's very dry. yeah hu Like, you know, you yeah you have to read the books and take a course, you know, that kind of stuff. I think it's quite funny. If I was Ross, I would probably find it annoying, but I think it's quite fun.
00:29:46
Speaker
Uh-huh. But then see Carol, i see I hope I've written it. I may have written all the names down, Robert. Carol was reading Nardle the Turtle to the baby. Yertle the Turtle. Yertle the Turtle. You don't know Yertle the Turtle? I don't know Yertle the Turtle. Oh, so why do I know Yertle the Turtle? Is this from teaching kindergarten or what what is this? Why do I know Yertle the Turtle? It's it's <unk> Dr. Seuss. It's a Dr. Seuss book.
00:30:16
Speaker
This is so interesting because both Kate and, and you're absolutely right. I've just, go I mean, it's Yardle the Turtle. There's absolutely no doubt. But both Kate and I, I think, I suddenly heard Nardle the Turtle because I had no frame of reference. I don't know Yardle. Kate Googled Nardle the Turtle and like five years ago, somebody wrote a book about Nardle the Turtle, a children's book, which we assume they maybe grabbed the name from friends, but no, it turns out you're absolutely right. It's Yardle the Turtle, Dr. Seuss book. Yeah.
00:30:46
Speaker
Yeah, no, it must be from your kindergarten days. It has to be but the thing is, I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? All the random things because I would have never read it. It's it's long. Like, you know, um the Grinch, the Grinch and Captain Hat and all that. I don't I didn't like reading those to my kindergartners because they're so long and they, you know, and that's that's funny to me that she had left Yertle the turtle sitting out.
00:31:20
Speaker
because any oh i'm reading it to him or to the baby and and um and i just i thought that was funny because i'm yeah that one it must be a long one too yeah but yeah that'll yurtle the turtle mm-hmm what is it with carol um no susan calling ross bobo the sperm guy like i just thought that was a weird And I thought that was funny. I thought that went right along with her humor. Like whenever she made the comment and he's like, you got a lot of books here. She's like, well, you have to take a course. And then, you know, would you all ever talk like me? Yeah. Let me call you Bobo. Just being mean and
00:32:10
Speaker
I mean, if I was Ross, I would hate her, I think. But standing back, I kind of the sense of humor. I cannot yeah kind of like it. Yeah, I think she's funny. But yeah, after we had the whole conversation about the manipulation and all of this, like I just like in this episode, I'm looking at Carol and I'm saying, Hmm, I don't like you anymore.
00:32:33
Speaker
right so we we've we've ruined carol for me we've ruined ross for katie like the who else are we gonna ruin but also been digington we'll see let's see so we go back to the the girl's apartment and ross is you know explaining that he wants some belly time yes they are there but phoebe says he believes it and the thing i noticed and i get probably nothing more than a coincidence but it's the first mention of putting a head in a turkey.
Foreshadowing and Trivia about Friends and Macy's Parade
00:33:01
Speaker
I was right there with you because I'm like, later. Right. See, and I went. Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no, no. Please finish your thought. One of my favorite, you know, I think everyone has like tiny like this. We all favorite scenes or favorite lines. One of my favorite tiny minuscule moments and friends is when Monica has the turkey on her head.
00:33:27
Speaker
and Joey walks down the hallway and he scares her. His reaction, you know, when she's telling, Chandler says, I love you. And she's stuck at the time where he gets like the fright of his life walking down. He almost collapses on the floor. That acting is part, that split second is one of my favorite things of the entire series. It just buckles me every single time. So funny. But yeah, I'm glad you picked up on that too.
00:33:54
Speaker
Yes, and then Chandler's, I think I'll better your head. That's right. Like they're just such good friends, like just ridiculous lines. Rachel comes home and you know, she didn't make her hundred dollars. I find it odd that, I mean, let's say that hundred dollars is two hundred and something now, that that would make her break a trip of leaving that day to bail. Like she hasn't bought the ticket.
00:34:23
Speaker
Like I don't know, i take I take it from New York city, you know, flying to bail. There's going to be more than that. And then plus the accommodations, if she's paying for this stuff herself, you know, maybe she's just paying for the flight herself. I find it odd that that relatively small amount of money in terms of a skiing holiday would make her break, you know, make her break the trick for her. Yeah. Well, and I figured you're exactly right on. Like they probably,
00:34:53
Speaker
are paying for the accommodations and all of the things while you're there, you just have to get here. Right. Yeah. And wouldn't it be amazing if a plane ticket was $100 around? right I would go everywhere. Yeah, we just, we'd never be, never be home. Chandler starts to talk about his parents' divorce, which is probably the foundation of all of his angst and issues and all of that. I think I'm right in saying he's told this story several times before, if I remember this scene correctly, and everyone kind of, oh, this story again, the Thanksgiving story. Yes. Oh, because one year they've got the more something kind of love with the pool boy.
00:35:41
Speaker
I'm so good for old Chandler. Well, we go from there to the subway station. I think it's down right this time. Yeah, I think this is one of two times we see this this station. I might be wrong, but when Phoebe has a stalker, which the guy who was stalking her sister. Oh, yes. This thing is the same set. I think it's only two times that we see it, which um I don't I don't know. I would think in New York, maybe we'd see it more and especially if they've already got the set. But right.
00:36:11
Speaker
I might be wrong and that's just the two I can remember in this scene and then when she um I don't yeah he's stalking her and they interact with each other but but you and Steve talked about that and I whenever and now I can't remember the guy's name but whenever y'all were talking I was yelling it at you and Steve I was like guys it's and And now I can't think of, oh god. Well that's right because we talked about the music in one of the in one of the same scenes. yeah I can picture him, I can hear his voice, his name has gone out my head. uhu Of course it has. ab talking to thatto deta let's see it doesn't come up It says he's not named, is that right?
00:37:01
Speaker
David Arquette. Yeah, but malcolm that wasn't him. Malcolm. That's it. Which I should know. That's my dad's name. oh they're According to Google. There you go. Yes. David Arquette, please. Which is Monica's ex-husband now. Because remember Monica went through the whole thing. The whole thing. Yes, yes.
00:37:27
Speaker
yeah that's right I forgot she was, I didn't put two and two together. yeah they were She was Courtney Cox Arquette on the opening credits for a little while. Yes and there was one episode I think where they put Arquette after all the actors names. Yes, because it was such a big deal. ah hu see you know She sees that poster with him having what I kind of, it's VD or whatever it is. vds and then
00:37:54
Speaker
Parole Joey goes back to the girls' apartment for some solace, doesn't he? i think Oh no, Central Park, Central Park. and they're just having a great laugh. Yes, and they're all laughing and then it's like, whenever she says, you know, laughing it can be infectious and then they all start laughing again and then it's going and it's showing you all of the places like it's even in Times Square and all over the walls and on the bus and
00:38:25
Speaker
And then I don't, I meant to write it down if I'm remembering this wrong, correct me, but they play some music while they're showing all these different locations. And there's only a few times where they play music, you know, over a scene in the show. And I can't remember the other ones. um But it only happens a couple of times, I think. How funny. I didn't even. I'll need to try and remember. I don't even remember what the song was now.
00:38:50
Speaker
but so Yeah, poor old Joey. He enters Monica's apartment after that, and he's not going home for Thanksgiving because they all think he really has some horrible disease. The good old parade is on. The parade is on that I love. And Monica cooking. I see Ross is still down in the dumps and being a little worse. Of course, he is. Rachel's excited about her ticket, but this is the moment where, yeah, she's about to leave. She made the, oh, well, she made the $100 because everyone, we didn't, I didn't mention this, I skipped over it.
00:39:21
Speaker
everyone chips in and gives her what would be I assume $20 each and because bras so then call the airline and get a ticket and well and she ends up coming in with the ticket and so I'm like did she go to the airport and purchase the ticket and then come back to get her stuff like I don't I don't know and admire what happened here with all of that It's almost as if it's a TV show, not real life at times. Weird. isn't It's weird, right? But yes, she comes back in, she's ready. Like, what yeah, the skis, that's, I don't know, all happened very, very quickly. But then Chandler bursts in and saying, underdog is broken free and it's flying over the city, which is a great visual. Now my little, um little sex, I don't know if we really call it this or in my head, it's just, it's brand new information, like Phoebe.
00:40:16
Speaker
I've got some information on underdog oh after the, you know, we'll talk about it after the episode, but they all go out to the roof with the infamous, got the keys or got the keys line this set, which is discussed at length shortly. Yes. But yeah, they all burst out and we flip back over to Rossby, hit Carol and Susan's, you know, and the old he only does it really because Carol does it.
00:40:46
Speaker
Now, is this normal? Would you say you know I have two children? I don't think I ever talked to the belly. Maybe Joseph did with you. I don't know if this is a normal thing or not. No, maybe sometimes, but it wasn't like a big thing. Now, I did read books out loud whenever that both of the boys, whenever I started getting real pregnant,
00:41:11
Speaker
and real big. um I would read books out loud and then we would play, after the boys were born, we would play those baby Einstein CDs with the little boys and things like that. But we didn't make a special thing because we talk a lot anyway. And so the idea would be that man, you know, this poor baby is hearing kids at school and hearing just all the time, like all the time. We appreciate some peace and quiet. Right. Golly, man. Yeah, it's not something I know. It's and yeah was it wasn't something I ever did. So yeah, wasn't sure if it was something if I was in the minority here.
00:42:03
Speaker
Yeah, no. Yeah, he sings to the baby and then we get sort of to the death feel like almost the peak of the episode you where they all come back and the door that is never locked is suddenly locked. Right. Right. I feel like i tried I was trying to think of other times this door was locked and it's only locked when it needs to be for the gag, which I suppose is the whole purpose. Right. But yeah, never locked at all.
00:42:31
Speaker
um and the whole who has the keys thing starts and um now do you have a drawer with spare keys things like that I mean that was obviously quite extreme this into me a lot but what do you have the loop on your fan to tell well no Al
00:42:50
Speaker
I believe very wholeheartedly in junk drawers. I believe in them. I think they are amazing and wonderful. Unfortunately, I'm married to a husband who feels 100% the opposite. He feels like everything should have the place. And so like currently we have three junk drawers going. Now about spring break, Joseph will get frustrated with this and then they will not be junk drawers for probably about a month.
00:43:20
Speaker
And then I'll go back to putting all the things back into the drawers. So are there spare keys? Yep. Yep. Yes, there sure are. There are spare ketchup packets and plastic ware and a wine cork thing and, you know, all the randomness. All the things. Yeah. So now I think we're similar like I've got my own, and I say it's a junk drawer, it's really not, but it's my drawer. I put my wallet and my keys and my things. It has some junk in it too, some just stuff I need to clear out. Kate has a junk drawer. She has one, possibly two. I don't know if we can send her one junk drawer. I don't go in there because it looks like a junk drawer, but she knows exactly what's in it. So I don't put anything in or take anything out. And then we have a couple of
00:44:16
Speaker
communal ones that we just do need to clear out, but that's where we keep batteries and bits and pieces. Batteries are in ours too, yes. They're sort of a more householdy thing. I think it's a natural thing to have in your house. I don't know if I'd trust somebody who didn't have a single junk drawer in their house.
00:44:33
Speaker
i crazy Yeah. i mean i'm going out on a limb i don't want to offend anybody but if there is no junk drawer or junk closet or junk area where you put all the things that sot have a home that box under the bed like so as you're right has to be even if it's not a drawer you're exactly correct and uh as something where things that don't have a home that becomes their home this is that is their home cattichondria is not cleaning out her her junk drawer as she listens to this i would trust katie conjurn with anything so indeed indeed she's got a little place in her in her home absolutely well let's see they all yeah so there's all of that where they're trying to find the right key and everyone's yelling
00:45:21
Speaker
And I do feel for Monica, because up until this point, if and remember it's been a couple of weeks since I watched the episode. Nobody has asked her what she wants for Thanksgiving. No. Everyone's been a bit selfish in this one. who Yeah. And then somebody is like, oh, now this feels like Thanksgiving. Yeah, Chandler, because everyone's arguing and fighting. That's right. Ross, you got your lump because it's that one lump.
00:45:52
Speaker
Yeah, I do feel for Monica in this one. I must say, you know, everyone's, everyone's focused on their own needs. But we go back over to Carol and Susan's and tell me if ah it's not a continuity error, I think I don't think but um Ross tells the baby that he chose paleontology on a dare. But to me he's always loved dinosaurs. I mean, dinosaur stuff in his childhood home and at school, it was old he's always loved dinosaurs. So to pick his paleontology as his major, so you must be, I don't know, 18, let's say, that seems odd to me. I think there's evidence to show he was really into dinosaurs before that.
00:46:36
Speaker
Well, and I I listen to that you know how sometimes you can be like super into something and You you can't make a living doing that right or you know Like you know, you've got joy like you you can't make a living being an actor and but he's gonna keep on and so you know whenever he was talking through and he's like everybody was picking their majors and you know so I picked it on a dare I wonder if there wasn't maybe a little bit of truth to that that that ah yeah I mean you hear me I love dinosaurs and I'm a weirdo and yeah you dare me I'll do I'll do that but you're right maybe what happened to a more traditional like an accountant right
00:47:27
Speaker
Maybe. And no offense to any accountants out there. I mean, do you know what I mean? But that's very, that seems like a very straight line. Yeah, academically successful. And that that would be a great career. And yes, but a little more mainstream than a paleontologist mainstream. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. that's in ja you and ultimately like that I think you might be right. but then right after that Susan comes in.
00:47:53
Speaker
Ross starts singing as we've discussed. mut And i again I do like this little moment. So the baby kicks for the first time. There's a sort of, if I remember this correctly, Ross moves um Susan's hand off, but then she kind of playfully slaps it. Ross's hand back and then puts her hand back on the belly. And I think there is a, I think there's a niceness to that moment. Yeah. Where they're all having this thing together.
00:48:22
Speaker
Yes. and And you know that, yeah, maybe there is room for everybody in the baby's life. The baby's bringing everyone together in a lovely way. I just realized that jumped ahead slightly because this is where we come back to the hallway and everyone's really arguing about potatoes and keys and they do get into the apartment but it's filled with smoke and it's, um yeah, Thanksgiving is ruined and that's where everyone starts arguing and everyone's losing it and except for Chandler, who's standing back and observing this and, ah, this feels like Thanksgiving. Yeah. yeah Okay. That's when it was. Yeah. so i ten of all No, I was out of order because I was thinking they, he said it while they were outside, but you're right. It's sort of, they come in and there's smoke and, and everybody's all freaking out. I didn't write this down, but I was going to ask you cause Ross comes in and it takes him a couple of seconds to realize that the place is full of smoke.
00:49:22
Speaker
be singing this song that I don't know. And I meant to look it up and forgot. It's like, here we go, walking down the street. That's the song. Is it is it is it part of the monkey song? Yes. yeah I thought it was, but I didn't, I sort of recognized the cadence, but I didn't know the words to it. So I thought it was so that that's at the very beginning of the song because it starts off and it's like do do do here we come walking down the street forgive me this it singing is not my thing but i could sing every word to that song you know that song and i know the monkeys too now yeah oh okay kid do you want to hear some trivia about the monkeys i know nothing about the monkeys other than a few of their songs
00:50:10
Speaker
okay so ah they they had a tv show that's how they originally met okay they were pulled together um And it was like a comedy show. It's a it's a sitcom is what it is back You know, it was on reruns whenever I was a kid they were very first popular whenever my mom was young and um But the guys were put together and so there's the funny one there's like the tall skinny serious one there's the goofy goofy one and And then there's like the heart drop. Right. And so um but they were strangers. They got put together. They were given the TV show and and as they are a band. Like they were the original like like like a reality show boy band, but not the original boy band because boy bands were a thing. OK. You know, because you got the Beatles that were right about the same time ish.
00:51:14
Speaker
Okay, but but the lucky they've got it you've got it that's exactly what they were and so they weren't friends like they weren't a band they were made as a band right but they actually Some of their albums did better than Beatles albums i had No idea and and so the lead I say the lead singer they tried there was a lot of like back and forth them with them because I Don't know I don't really know that baby Jones. Yeah, baby Jones was from Across the pond over there somewhere. I can't tell you exactly where because I don't know off the top of my head but like
00:52:09
Speaker
Whenever I was a kid, we went and saw them in concert. And at that point, it was just three of them because Mike Nesmez had broken off and didn't win anything. He became like an accountant. I don't know what my thing with accountant. Maybe that's why that came up later. But anyway, like when got like a normal people job and then there was Davey, Mickey and Peter and they they toured and did concerts and all of that.
00:52:40
Speaker
And they put on a good show. And then like we went, we saw them at one time and it was, um, like the three of them and then one time we went and it was just Davey and Peter I think and then Davey passed and then they did it and it was the other three like Mike had come back and Anyway, they went through a whole bunch of ups and downs and things like that But yeah, it's a they were a manufactured band that started out as a TV show. I bet there's a documentary out there that'd be Oh, there are plenty there's a lot interesting to see
00:53:17
Speaker
Yeah. And there was actually one that came out fairly recently. um Yeah. So anyway, they're pretty cool. All right. I'm going to look into the monkeys a little bit more. Yeah. And we're almost, and well, we are really the final scene, except for Joey ripping the poster. Everyone's kind of sitting around quietly. I think everyone's kind of, instead of being angry, they're just sad that things have been ruined. But here comes ugly naked guy to save the dick. Good old ugly naked guy.
00:53:48
Speaker
having their Thanksgiving dinner. And I think they truly realized what Thanksgiving is all about. They have each other. So it is a a beautiful ending. And then they have their Thanksgiving meal of the the grilled cheese sandwich and... Funyuns. The Funyuns, the Funyuns that I've just learned about and Chandler carving the sandwiches, which I think is a beautiful touch. Yes, as in Joey and Who? Monica? No. I think it's, yeah yeah, I don't know. Whenever they pull it apart like the wishbone. Yes, and he gets the bigger half. Because that's what he wished for. I wish for him. It makes perfect sense to me in my head. Right. So it does end on a really nice little note, especially with Chandler making a little toast. And, you know, he's thankful that I think he says that their Thanksgiving sucks or sucked, I think.
00:54:45
Speaker
um It's a really nice ending. Yes. yeah love the way it comes I love the way it comes together and then Joey ripping the poster. Yeah. in the In the very end. But um not if you I wanted to talk to you about Underdog because he's a character that um I would recognize him.
Monica's Thanksgiving Dedication
00:55:05
Speaker
big A bit like some of the characters we've discussed before like Rocky and Bullwinkle. I've never seen him in anything. I just know who he is.
00:55:13
Speaker
But I didn't realize I get underdog. It only ran from the original. Really, run was from 64 to 67 is when it was on the air. Just three years. And yet it's this this icon or this character that we know what's that 50 plus years later. who This was interesting. There was 62 episodes. But he was voiced by a chap called Wally Cox, who was in over 20 movies. He did some voiceover stuff and some kind of low level acting.
00:55:43
Speaker
And this, again, it's one of those things, it's nothing more than a coincidence. But I think it's a little link to another episode. He unfortunately died when he was just 48. He had an ongoing heart tissue and he knew he was going to pass away. But he wanted to be buried at sea, which is a throwback to a point. Jack Geller wanted to be buried at sea. Yeah, it is. Which I just thought was, again, probably nothing to it. But it made me smile thinking about Jack Geller wanting to be Hey, nobody would expect that. But he didn't get scattered it's scattered at sea. His ashes were spread and with his with his lifelong friend Marlon Brando's ashes. They grew up in the same small town of Evanston, Illinois, and then both kind of made it. um So the ashes were mixed together and they were scattered partly in Death Valley, California, and then in Tahiti, which was apparently a place they both loved.
00:56:40
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I mean, everyone knows if nothing else, the name Marlon Brando, you know, even superstar, but, um, so that the underdog balloon did appear in the Macy's Thanksgiving days parade multiple times, but it was in 65, 66, and then 79. So he hadn't been in the Thanksgiving day parade since 1979. So that'd be 13 or 14 years before this episode was filmed.
00:57:08
Speaker
OK. Yeah, go ahead. OK. So do you remember in the episode where ah Joey and Chandler went out on the date with ah she thought it was a brother and a sister, but it was we OK. yeah we did And we talked about if she was telling the story of underdog getting away. Right. And so what did you decide after going back and forth?
00:57:36
Speaker
will we just say Well, what we what we thought, what I thought, I can't remember quite what we said when we recorded, was that these were filmed out of order. So maybe that episode was filmed after this one, because it did seem to be an odd reference at the time, because it's not something that had happened in real life. There was no reason to mention Underdog. I don't quite remember what Monica, I think, says about it, but I remember that scene at the table.
00:58:06
Speaker
Yeah, so she was just talking about him going down Broadway, like, and getting away and everybody was freaking out and all of that. So I wonder, I wonder. Yeah, maybe I'm assuming it was filmed out of order. Maybe when I get further into this book, they'll talk about it, about how they filmed it. Yeah. So we'll look into that. It'd be interesting to see. But I didn't realize because I'd never seen the show, that the reruns of Underdog in the 70s got quite heavily censored. Because I guess he takes pills and he was taking these super energy pills that had a U on them. So he started taking pills to give him super strength. And the censorship was done to actually stop children just swallowing any pills, but especially ones that were bright red with a U on them.
00:59:02
Speaker
Um, but then oddly, when there was reruns in the nineties, they brought these scenes back and I don't know how they did this, but they were actually, um, well, no, let me get this right. The pills were originally added. That's right. To encourage children to take a vitamins or vitamins, depending which side of the Atlantic you're on. Um, but then all references were removed to any of the pills as late as the nineties.
00:59:28
Speaker
ah because of the drug culture at the time. So there they were somewhat censored in the 70s, but they anything to do with these super magical pills was removed from reruns from the 90s onwards, apparently. So, yeah. Again, it's something that I've never seen the show, but um it's funny how these reruns get censored depending on what's going on in the real world. Oh, yeah. At the time.
00:59:53
Speaker
Well, and I mean, if you think about it, like in old cartoons and stuff, and even in movies, you know, everybody's always smoking and all that. And that's been taken out of a lot of. I was talking to a friend about that, that just of the age when in the secondary school I went to, this was mid to late 90s, there was a normal staff room and then there was a smoking staff room. And you knew which, if you needed to find a teacher, you knew pretty much which one to find them in.
01:00:22
Speaker
because he knew if your teacher smoked or not. I just remember going to find ah one of our teachers and he was in the smoking staff room. Wow. Which, of course, um I'm guessing within five years of the midnight, it was probably a thing of the past. Yeah. But yeah, um we sort of come to the end of the episode. Who would be your Gunther Central Park? Would you have a favorite character in this episode?
01:00:48
Speaker
I think it's Joey. ah Joey. Yeah. Cause he's, he's just kind of there and he's funny and just trying to do his thing. And, and then it just goes unfortunate for him. And he, but he's just, you know, good old Joey and he's so funny, funny, funny, funny. who like yeah I could have easily gone for Joey. I think he, I think he would be my second pick, but as I alluded to a little bit ago,
01:01:16
Speaker
I decided to choose Monica this week because she puts up with so much. She's trying to accommodate everybody and nobody asks her what she wants and she doesn't until she sort of snaps because because dinner is ruined for everybody else that causes her to to sort of snap up until that point. She's happy to do relatively happy to do whatever anyone else needs. So just for her patience alone, I've decided to go with Monica.
01:01:43
Speaker
That's very sweet. See, my thought is nobody asked her to do that. You know, so. right i like i different perspectives on these things Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I do feel bad for her because, you know, sometimes it's easy to get so wrapped up in doing everything for everybody that you forget that nobody asked you to do all that.
01:02:08
Speaker
Right, that's exactly true. It's definitely her love language, isn't it? Oh, 100. That is definitely her love language. You're absolutely right. Yeah. Aww. Well, see, out of a good solid 10 coffee cups, what do you think of this episode? I would give this one a
01:02:31
Speaker
I enjoyed this one. It did not have so many like laugh out loud as last week. And last week I gave it seven and a decaf. So it was like, you know, seven and a half ish. So like this one I feel like it's a good solid seven. That's exactly where I have landed to.
01:02:51
Speaker
um I think if it was just an, and it couldn't be just a normal episode, but I do hold the bar a little higher for holiday episodes, I think, because there's so many great ones. And to me, this is not one of the great holiday episodes, but on its own, it's still a good solid episode. So for me, it would be a seven as well. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. One that I definitely enjoy. But any final thoughts before we wrap this episode up?
01:03:19
Speaker
Um, no, no, I don't think so. I'm just, I'm excited to do the next one. Yes. I'm looking forward to the next one, which is going to be the one with the monkey. We get to meet Marcel. Good old Marcel. Marcel, I'm excited to, I only know a little bit of the sort of behind the scenes, deep diving stuff. I'm excited for us to get into it, to find out more about Marcel and what the monkey brought to the show. Yeah. Yeah. On that note,
01:03:48
Speaker
Thank you everybody for tuning into this week's episode of the Purple Door podcast.