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S1 E16 - The One With Two Parts, Part Two
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Join Al, DeeAnn and Steve as we discuss NBC Thursday nights, favorite board games and hospital waiting rooms!
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Introduction and Weather Chit-Chat
00:00:04
Speaker
Well, hello and welcome to the latest episode of the Purple Door Podcast, a friend's rewatch pod. I'm your host, Alistair, alongside my good friend, Deanne. Deanne, how are you today?
00:00:16
Speaker
I am doing great, Al. i'm ah I'm a little chilly, though. I will be honest about that. I've got my Fraser hoodie on and my hat because it is it is not not freezing, but it's not far off it.
Movie Talk and Family Moments
00:00:29
Speaker
And it's gloomy and miserable and unseasonably cold for this time of year.
00:00:35
Speaker
I figure this is our last snap before, like cold snap, and then we're done. It'll be time for summer. It going to be sunny and quite warm, I think, the rest of this week.
00:00:46
Speaker
So yeah I'm enjoying it today while we have it. I'm not. I'm done. You're not. You're done with it. this is mag This is where I thrive, this kind of weather. So I am all for it.
00:00:58
Speaker
But you just went and saw the Minecraft movie. Is that correct? I did with two 11-year-olds. And it was excellent. We enjoyed it. Lots of laughs were had. um Lots of popcorn was eaten. Excellent. We laughed a lot. It was very enjoyable, I think.
Diving into Friends: 'The One With Two Parts, Part Two'
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Speaker
Wonderful. Well, the Minecraft movie has the Purple Door podcast seal of approval, it sounds like. Absolutely. Excellent. Stamp. I love it. Well, today we are talking about the one with two parts, part two. We split this up deliberately because even though it was I did double check it was aired as one long episode, it's been split into two on streaming and also there's just so much to talk about.
00:01:43
Speaker
We thought it would be best to chop it into two. So today is the second part. um If you're watching on the DVD, it's the same episode as part one. But we're excited to get stuck in. But before we do, we have a game of bamboozle to play.
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Speaker
And I'm looking forward to hearing your questions. Oh, me too. I'm curious if we don't have a couple that are overlapping, as always.
Friends Trivia Extravaganza
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Speaker
As always, as always. why don't you start off with one?
00:02:15
Speaker
All right. um What does Ursula or what does Ursula not do? It was a big deal. She's very clear. She does not do this.
00:02:30
Speaker
I do not have that question. What does she not do? she does not drink. Ah, that's right. So she says. So she says.
00:02:41
Speaker
And ah yeah, she's a liar, but she has made it very clear to Joey that she does not drink. That's right. But we we find out that what she says and what she actually does may be two very different things. Yes. All right.
00:02:56
Speaker
So my first one for you is what football team does Ross see in his dream? The Tampa Bay defense. Tampa Bay defense. Yes.
00:03:09
Speaker
That's funny. that's That's my last question. Oh, nice. All right. um And then kind of, so what are the doctor's names?
00:03:21
Speaker
and And then I was just told you in our little chatting before. And then I was like, oh, So you did, and Kate even asked me last night, and all I could remember was Dr. Rosen, and once again, even though we just talked about it, I do not remember George Clooney's character.
00:03:40
Speaker
Yes, Dr. Michael Mitchell. but I knew it was alliterative. Half a point. I knew it alliterative because Kate tested me on that last night, and failed as as I did here.
00:03:52
Speaker
All right, my second one for you. What color is the box that Phoebe's cake comes in? It's white. I've got pink. You sounded confident, so we'll have to double check. yeah I was going to say, I'm okay being wrong, but yeah.
00:04:09
Speaker
All right. hu I'll put Kate on that. Maybe a pale pink. It could be, or could be pink and white. I mean, who knows? Okay. All right.
00:04:20
Speaker
all right. So who is Rachel's emergency contact? That would be Monica. Yes. Which I thought was so sweet because it's a flashback to whatever they were in there with the hockey puck.
00:04:35
Speaker
And ah and they they gay are whoever was talking and they were talking about the emergency contact. One of the boys is the other boys. That's right. and That's right.
00:04:47
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I would like ah think we're going to touch on this quite a bit. Sorry, my dogs have
Food Trends and Personal Stories
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decided to bark. Yeah. the hospital scene and kind of flashback to that episode yes where there'll be some things to discuss but but before that what business does jack geller wish he'd gotten a part of before it was big the the sun-dried or vegetables or fruits and things like that you were on it the first time sun-dried tomatoes or tomatoes that's it
00:05:18
Speaker
Okay. All right. Yeah. Well, he went into the whole thing about sun-dried tomatoes. I wonder what else the sun could draw. That's right. um and That's funny because that was my question number four for you. oh What's the Mr. Geller super impressed with at a meal with Ross?
00:05:37
Speaker
And I remember whenever sun-dried tomatoes all of a sudden like became all the rage. and Do you like those? Um, not particularly. i mean, they're fine. They're in something. It's fine. But yeah, but yeah, I don't know. I like them. I like them a lot.
00:05:55
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that's fine it's funny how food like natural food that doesn't really get marketed goes through like avocado toast. I swear a year or two ago was the thing. Like in every place you went to eat, there was different versions of avocado on toast.
00:06:12
Speaker
Yeah. um So it becomes trendy and I don't know why. I don't know. Probably because it's good. Avocados are delicious. Avocado, absolutely. You can put your sun-dried, you put all the stuff on there.
00:06:24
Speaker
Delicious. Oh, man. Now that's all we want to eat.
Podcast Preparations Gone Awry
00:06:28
Speaker
There you go. but You know what? I am with Jack Geller. That's what I would like my next thing to be.
00:06:36
Speaker
All right. How long has Monica lived in her apartment?
00:06:42
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I believe it's six years. It is six years. Nice. I didn't write that down. I had to think that one through, think through the scene. All right. We're going back to when Ross and Jack Gellar are eating.
00:06:56
Speaker
I feel this is a bit of a sneaky question, but what is Ross eating? What's Ross having for dinner? It's just mentioned briefly. Is it fish? It is fish indeed.
00:07:08
Speaker
shouldn't have questioned my question. Yeah. Yeah, you've got this. It's just fish indeed. And it's only mentioned because Jack says, eat your fish. And that's it. Yes. Okay.
00:07:19
Speaker
So, last episode, we talked through the three the three shows that they were watching on the TV.
Deep Dive: Friends Episode Analysis
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Speaker
What cartoon is shown?
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Speaker
You've just stolen my next question, which i believe that is Bugs Bunny. Yes, Looney Tunes. Bugs Bunny. Yes, yes. I do enjoy a bit of Looney Tunes.
00:07:41
Speaker
I've got three left. have Okay, so let's see. What color are Monica and Rachel's wine glasses that they use when the doctors come over?
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And they're not clear. They are a color. Are they green? They're blue. They're blue. that close? It's pretty close. It's pretty close. is It is. All right.
00:08:09
Speaker
So what word was Ross spelling for Scrabble? I've got a Scrabble-related question, but not that one, and I didn't write it down. He was spelling...
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to mike I don't remember. You're going to have to tell me. Kidney. Kidney. And you began with a K. couldn't remember from what it was, because you get zero points for Idney. That's right.
00:08:41
Speaker
Now, on the Scrabble theme, what three tiles does Marcel swallow? Ha! M, O, and K. Yes, indeed. Yes, yes. Excellent.
00:08:52
Speaker
Okay. Here's... I didn't write it down. All right. And i I probably couldn't tell you who sings it, but there are two songs in this episode.
00:09:04
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There are two songs. And it was odd to me because normally... ah The songs don't stand out to me like the two songs that were in this episode. Right.
00:09:19
Speaker
Can you name either one of them? I don't recall any, so i'm kind of playing it through my head.
00:09:30
Speaker
God, I don't remember any songs at all. You're going to have to tell me. Okay, so they did, um and I wrote, Something about me is I should have looked. Well, no, this is a made up on the fly trivia question. So I'm not going to apologize and apologize.
00:09:45
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Good. But um I often do not know the names of songs or who sings them. And I kind of make up my own title. ah But I think what's the frequency, Kenneth?
00:09:58
Speaker
Of course it is. And that is called what I think it's what's the frequency in brackets, Kenneth by R.E.M. Okay, yes, beautiful and and then that in a New York minute.
00:10:11
Speaker
Oh, Marcel Ramos. Yeah, and I should have known that. And both of those songs were really, really, really big. And I think that's probably why it stood out because like you hear little bits and pieces, but they were both at like big transitional pieces in that episode.
00:10:33
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And so that was just interesting to me. im er i mean I'm excited whenever and Steve, anyway, I would like to look more into that because and this is, I think, the first episode that I've really noticed.
00:10:52
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Yeah. The way that I didn't. And it's interesting because REM were originally slated to sing the themes. I have one of their songs is the theme song. So my assumption was that that would have ended in a not great way, like negotiations broke down
Skiing Mishaps and Insurance Shenanigans
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or something.
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But obviously not because they have licensed their song to be used but midway through. It's over midway through the first season. and So obviously they allowed their song to be in there.
00:11:21
Speaker
um And then I have one more because you have two, right? I've got one left now, but bring it. The more the merrier. Okay, well, you go ahead and ask yours, and then ask my last one. So my last one for you, and I'm wondering if this is the same on the DVD or not, but um right at the very, very end, we see a scene that is in Spanish.
00:11:44
Speaker
Yeah. What is Fat the Fat, or Ugly Naked Guy doing? Not Fat Naked He's hula hooping. He's hula hooping. Yes, he is.
00:11:54
Speaker
Okay, what flavor is Phoebe's birthday cake?
00:12:00
Speaker
Well, it's now a lemon smush. There you go. Yes. Yes. Excellent. Yes. I love that scene. i love the way Ross plays it. Yes.
00:12:12
Speaker
And I have questions about it, which we will we will get to. But that was a great round of Bamboozled. And as you've alluded to, um Steve is going to drop us another soundbite to discuss um the Doctors and the kind of what was happening on NBC at that time.
00:12:29
Speaker
um So we look forward to getting that and we'll splice that in towards The end of the episode. Now, I will tell you my routine for this podcast is to print out all my notes. And I've got two things to say about this. Doesn't sound like an interesting subject at all.
00:12:43
Speaker
But first of all, our printer printer has run out of ink. So I'm now bouncing between tabs. So for some reason, Deanne, listeners, if I hang up and we have to come back,
00:12:54
Speaker
And splice this together. That's on me. I've never had to bounce between tabs as we're doing it because usually i have it printed out. Secondly, kate Kate almost divorced me last night because of she discovered something about me that horrified her regarding this podcast.
00:13:13
Speaker
I can't wait to hear it And I think you're going to side with her. and i think maybe i probably And I think maybe I will as well, actually. She was horrified to find out I have a Google Doc
Character Dynamics and Surprising Revelations
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Speaker
that I fill in each week.
00:13:26
Speaker
I print out my notes for the episode. When we're finished recording, the notes go into the recycling and I just wipe everything off the template. Thus, my notes and my bamboozled questions are lost to to history and to time.
00:13:41
Speaker
ah Right. She was horrified. Horrified. Okay. Yeah. ah You, out like oh, how? I have my recycling can, which I empty every couple of weeks in the office.
00:13:56
Speaker
So I'm going to dig out the last few weeks. It's just got paper in it, but, but she is very disappointed in me. Wow. Yeah. I have my little notebook. I can't write all of my notes.
00:14:08
Speaker
As does she. And I think I might have to, um, I've seen the error in my ways. Okay. That was discussion. I'll send you a friend's notepad. A friend's notepad. Maybe that's needed. That was Kate. I'm living it up on a Saturday night discussing how we notate friends. We're at that station of life. It was wonderful. Hey, it's excellent. It's a great place to be. I love it.
00:14:33
Speaker
ah But here we are. We are at thee um the one with two parts, part two, and it starts off certainly on the stream with a recap rather than ah traditional beginning.
00:14:46
Speaker
um I think this is the first time we've seen a recap of any sorts. um i I can only think of one other episode way into the future where there's a recap at the beginning.
00:14:58
Speaker
um And of course, i I did go back and watch this on the stream instead of the DVD, so not sure if it's different for you. Yeah, there's no recap. But I do know whose voice says gives the recap okay i did how i even even or i uh i there is no recap on the dvds so i did not see a recap but in my reading and of all the different things it it was it was uh courtney cox's voice doing the
00:15:31
Speaker
the recap. so I did not catch that. But yeah, they run through the first half, I suppose, for the stream. But then we go straight to the hospital waiting room.
00:15:42
Speaker
um Now, I will say this. Kate, kate because I'm sure you've done this too. I didn't notice this, but Kate was noticing that Rachel does change legs once or twice, which one she's holding.
00:15:54
Speaker
course does. which something It's a little wrinkle I wouldn't notice, but she did. um Yeah. But I was looking at the bigger picture and saying, well, this is obviously the same hospital waiting room, but there's some key differences. Did you notice any differences? Yes.
00:16:09
Speaker
No, but before we go into that, will you tell me what they said on the recap? Like, what was the big things that they they touched on for the recap? Yeah, um I didn't write them down, but really, of course, it was really the the the Phoebe and Joey story.
00:16:23
Speaker
You know, that was really it. And the recap ended with as with um Phoebe and Ursula meeting in the hallway. Okay. All right. So it just ended there. It was quite short. You know, it was just a couple of quick, quick scenes.
00:16:37
Speaker
Okay. So that was that. um But yeah, we're in what looks to me the exact same waiting room that Ross was in when he got hit with the puck in the face.
00:16:48
Speaker
um There's some key differences. The glass has gone, which actually played quite a key part. Oh, yeah.
Colonial Williamsburg and Board Games Fun
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Speaker
Whenever she was opening. Was the glad it's all gone?
00:17:01
Speaker
I believe so. I believe so. Maybe it was just open. Now I'm rethinking about it. There was certainly no sliding everything. Yeah. Uh-uh. Okay.
00:17:12
Speaker
So that was gone and the vending machines were gone. Yeah, the milk vending machine. that's That's the reason I noticed it because that still sounds odd to me and maybe that was just a thing at the time. Yeah. it's um Yes. No, and there was somebody who commented, it was it Leah? Yeah.
00:17:28
Speaker
Roderick that commented about the vending, the milk vending machines. I think so. That's been a conversation that has randomly come up in my personal conversations over the last, however long we've been doing this.
00:17:43
Speaker
Like, do you know anything about that? My mom looked at me like I was insane. So that was one. It was, it's an odd thing. i don't remember there ever being a milk vending machine, but...
00:17:55
Speaker
maybe yeah Maybe I'm wrong. and The couches are also positioned or the seating's in a different way. um so I noticed that as well. um Now, I was thinking, um if you care to share, have you ever broken any bones?
00:18:10
Speaker
I have never broken any bones. However, i have sprained ankles and have... partially torn in MCL, which at one time, one time of all the times that I have sprained my ankles and they've swelled up and everything else.
00:18:31
Speaker
One time was a trip to the ER. um But that was that's it. Yeah, that's not thatles a whole lot. No, not at all. yeah Have you?
00:18:43
Speaker
Well, yeah, well, knock on wood. I've not never technically broken. on a fractured three fingers. um yeah the i but I was 14, 15. And the brief story is it's the one and only time I've ever skied.
00:18:57
Speaker
So it makes it sound like I went flying off the cliff and crashed into some big oak. But it wasn't nearly as exciting. I was at the bottom of the hill and um I reached down and was unclipping the boots or whatever it is you do to get skis, pressing it.
00:19:13
Speaker
Somebody had lost control and skied over my hand. And then crashed into the thing. And it kind of rolled three of my fingers over.
00:19:25
Speaker
And it was, mean, it was, don't get me wrong, it was really painful, but it wasn't it wasn't horrific and they weren't hanging off, but they swelled. It was all swollen. and Yeah.
00:19:36
Speaker
Went to the hospital with my mum that evening and I don't quite remember, the details are a bit fuzzy now, but it was these three fingers on my right hand, so I couldn't write anything. Oh.
The Heart of Phoebe and Joey's Friendship
00:19:47
Speaker
Yeah, it does hurt. The story's a little, you know, it's, oh, you did it skiing. What did you do? Well, somebody skied over hand. So, you know, it doesn't go where you think it would go.
00:20:00
Speaker
um But let's see. Yeah, Monica's there and Rachel not only doesn't have medical insurance, but doesn't seem to understand really how it works, I suppose. Yeah. When she's like, oh yeah, give me some of that.
00:20:12
Speaker
Yeah. But, um but To be fair, mean, why would she, why would she know she's been, you know, it's not one of those things that I mean, I assume that typical parents have conversations with their kids about car insurance.
00:20:32
Speaker
Whenever you're, you're going to start paying for that. And then whenever you're, you know, out of the house and have your job. you get your own health insurance, right? This is how life works. As she was, you know, she was a shoe.
00:20:48
Speaker
She was a shoe. That's right. didn want to be a sho And sometimes you just don't know until you find out, right? These situations come about, but um I was surprised that Monica, even though she initially was against it, did seem to, she was okay with insurance
Touching Moments and Final Reflections
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fraud.
00:21:06
Speaker
Um, And we didn't take much to talk her into it. Right. And I assume that this would be near impossible to pull off because they need your identification and all of that, in addition to your insurance card. But for the sake of TV, she seems to be able to pull this off pretty easily.
00:21:24
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Get a different form. And it's high. They do have that sweet moment where Monica becomes her merchant emergency ah contact.
00:21:35
Speaker
yeah Yeah, but that is very short-lived. It is. It is. I do like this next scene. We but bump on over to Central Park where Ross is explaining the nightmare about playing football with his son, which is a slight callback to earlier in this two-parter where he kind of tells Susan to go along with the doll.
00:22:00
Speaker
um Panicking about being a father. Chandler's a great friend, I think. Yes. very reassuring there's gonna be no doubt he's going to be great um so good on good on chandler um but yeah i do quite like ross in this scene um the way he's describing his dream and and all of that um oh yeah and it's it's funny it's yeah yeah it's a good one it's funny and it's sweet and yeah yeah um then
00:22:35
Speaker
Joey asked Chandler about the Rainbow Room. And I know of the Rainbow Room, but I don't know why. I don't know if it's just in Manhattan and it's world famous. I don't know or if they're all over the place.
00:22:47
Speaker
But heard of the Rainbow Room before. Okay. Do you know much about it? So, I mean, we have a Rainbow Room here in Dallas, but it is not but it's it's not a place to go eat.
00:23:00
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Right, maybe it's just named after it. No, its not it's a drag queen show.
00:23:11
Speaker
Oh, well, that would kind of make sense with the name, but obviously not named after this one. Right, but I don't know. I wonder if it's not something that is used a lot in Manhattan. It's been on a lot of movies and things. I think i think and it's it's a real place. and I've got a funny feeling.
00:23:33
Speaker
I don't know why, but maybe I've just seen it in documentaries about so you know the actors and actors. That's where they go. like Maybe John Lennon went there or played there or something.
00:23:44
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. That would be so expensive. Right. it i I can hear you typing. I'm doing it. Yeah, I was just seeing if it was. It doesn't bring it up. But I think it's sort of where the rich and famous might dine.
00:23:59
Speaker
ah Okay, it's at Rockefeller Center. Okay, so there we go. Yeah, ah private private event space, Rockefeller Plaza.
00:24:10
Speaker
All right. So town Manhattan. If Steve wasn't dropping in later with his little deep dive into NBC Thursday nights, we would maybe deep dive into the rainbow room.
00:24:21
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. That would have been interesting. Sorry. Yes. But as of 2022, it no longer serves as a public restaurant. Oh, okay. It's just an event space.
00:24:32
Speaker
Now. and have Yeah. Good old Joey doesn't seem to connect that Phoebe and Arsala have the same birthday. Bless him. Um, yeah yeah Yeah. He's still in that kind of ditzy. What are the odds?
00:24:46
Speaker
Right. Oh, honey. Oh, no. Oh, no. But, um yeah, and I'll um i'll forget. Well, no, we're going to save that for later. Never mind. have a thought about Phoebe and Ursula. Something occurred to me. I've seen this episode dozens of times.
00:25:03
Speaker
I just realized something last night. But we'll come to that later. But we we go back over to the hospital. We meet the doctors. um Yes. George Clooney and what's his name? Noah. Noah.
00:25:16
Speaker
um It's either Wiley or Wile. Okay. I don't know how. It's W-Y-L-E. Right. Oh, no. W-Y-L-I-E is what I wrote down. Okay.
00:25:27
Speaker
So Wiley sounds right. Okay. So yeah, so they come in and Rachel and Monica so start with this, you know, trying to figure out each other's name that kind of plays throughout a lot of the episode.
00:25:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. You know, trying to make sure they get each other's names right. But obviously a big cheer from the crowd. I'm not sure, was was George Clooney kind of famous at this point? ah Or did he get famous on ER?
00:25:54
Speaker
Again, maybe Steve will tell us, I don't know. Yes, I feel like this will be a Steve area. Okay. Because I know that ah Yeah, I don't know. Okay, yeah, I certainly don't.
00:26:06
Speaker
And I can't believe, looking in my notes here, we're going over to the girls' apartment, and the very first thing I've written down is ah r REM's What's the Frequency Kenneth is playing in the background.
00:26:17
Speaker
Oh, my God! And can't believe it. I dropped a point. It's the only REM's, and I guess it is their most famous song. It's one I really like. I'm not a big fan of Michael Stipe.
00:26:28
Speaker
Really? I mean, they're okay. I just... they're up there with you too. For me, like I don't dislike them, but i don't really get the hype. Okay. Maybe I need to try REM. You two have tried a couple of times. and like I said, I don't not like them to me. They're very average at best.
00:26:45
Speaker
Um, maybe, maybe REM. I e may need to try some again. Yeah, I think so. Because there's a, there's a few songs that I like from REM. All right. We'll give, we'll give that a, give that a shot. Give them another go.
00:26:59
Speaker
Um, So a couple of things that things I've noticed in this scene as we kind of go through it. First of all, I love the way Ross drops the cake and then goes, you scared the crap out of me. I don't know why I love that delivery so much, but, man, he does it well.
00:27:14
Speaker
Now, he makes it sound like having base facial special cake tools would be ridiculous. But it's just as a chef. Okay, but it's different.
00:27:27
Speaker
It's different. It is different, but to me there would be a chance that she would have some, I don't know, it's kind of a knife, the icing spreader thing, it looks like a knife.
00:27:42
Speaker
Yeah. yeah You know, I don't know. ah Well, and we, I am not a baker or a chef, and we have like tits, like frosting tits. yeah Right. because right Because you have children.
00:27:55
Speaker
Yeah. you These are the things that you... There you go. Inevitably, you end up with. um And i both Kate and I will bake and cook a bit. um but but We both quite enjoy it.
00:28:06
Speaker
and We've got a few things. We've got a few, you know, nothing fancy, but ah things to spread some icing. Yeah. couple of things. I don't know. It wouldn't be that crazy for me to Monica to have some stuff that might potentially save the lemon shmoosh and change Pee Hee back to Phoebe.
00:28:24
Speaker
um I think would that would be possible. Now, a couple of things. Well, really, one thing is like I don't know why it bugs me so much, and I hope it's the same in the DVD.
00:28:35
Speaker
I understand if you're an extra and you don't speak, you get paid a certain amount. if you get If you speak even one warned, I know that bumps up your pay. Okay.
00:28:47
Speaker
Betty seems very awkward to me, just standing, doing this awkward wave to Phoebe across the table. And I don't know why it gives me a bit of the rage, but it does. Like, oh, there's Betty, Betty.
00:28:59
Speaker
And instead of saying any words, Betty just stands there and smiles and waves across a table. It's very weird to me. She's been there a little while because I watched her with Gunther going back and forth in the background. Right, because there's Gunther again. Gunther again, the the hero of Friends. I love Gunther. Yes, the hero in the background.
00:29:20
Speaker
But Betty gets referred to twice, and she just smiles and waves. It's like, pay this actress, you know, whoever it is, to at least act like a human being.
00:29:31
Speaker
You know, if I walked into your house and said, hey, Wilson, how are you? And you just stood there, smiled and did this. I would turn around and leave. Like yeah something is wrong here.
00:29:41
Speaker
And I don't know why. It bugs me more than it should. That's so funny. that That's hilarious. But let's see. Ah, see, I've just messed up my notes. Here we are.
00:29:54
Speaker
So Phoebe arrives, and she's very excited. Everyone she loves is there, but notices pretty quickly that Joey is not there.
00:30:04
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Joey is. And the transition at the end of that is weird to me, too. Maybe it's just that whole scene. I don't know. But yeah, she's so excited about Betty. I wasn't even angry that she was there and looking awkward because it was ah it was a very awkward thing and everything happened so fast you know because Rosnan he spilled the thing and then looking at the cake and then Phoebe's just standing there nobody noticed her walking is surprised and then you know oh okay and now everybody is looking at me and the you know I wasn't even angry about that but then she's like oh the people I love
00:30:48
Speaker
where's joey and then they just kind of like pan on her for i felt like it was a hair too long it just it seemed right just more dramatic than it needed to be right yeah it just it was an awkward scene at the end like is i like ross the way he drops the cake i think he pulls that off great but to me it was ah an awkward scene yeah um But yeah, we go from there over to the restaurant. I do like this scene with Ross and Jack.
00:31:19
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um I've got a soft spot for Jack Gellar. I think he's i think he's yeah he's played brilliantly and I think he's a great dad. um yeah So we're assuming that this is the next night, you know, maybe 24 hours later um because he's out for dinner.
00:31:34
Speaker
And I love that they could have that conversation where Ross can be a bit vulnerable and saying, you know he's basically terrified and that's great that they have that relationship because we've seen that between jack and monica already so for a dad who says he was a whale or not a whale a lot you know he was busy with the business and all of that i think he's done a great job now do we ever know what business it is i've just thought about that i'm not sure what what line of work was jack in i don't know he's probably in the mob
00:32:06
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Probably. I could see that. I think at some point he says he told Judy's parents he was a lawyer, but he wasn't. And then he never corrected them. I think that think they say that at some point. might be making that one up.
00:32:21
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That's funny. I don't know if we have a career. Yeah, have idea. Yeah, need to look into that one. No idea. yeah have Okay, you know how he keeps talking to Ross about Colonial Williamsburg? Yes. Yes.
00:32:35
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Yeah. Have you, do you know anything about that? I don't other than, know, I don't. I think I've got the wrong thing. and I've never been.
00:32:46
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um Yeah. yeah do you Have you ever been or do you know much about it? I don't know. i kind i feel like that's one of the things that we did one summer whenever I was like in sixth grade because we were up in that area and we had done like Boston and Salem and then my we had family in Rhode Island and my dad is a real big history buff and all of that so like I've been to a lot of battlefields and a lot of like I went to oh god oh he'd be so disappointed in me right now what is um it's one of the presidents where he grew up and it's called the
00:33:34
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Something like close to here. no um no, no, no. and Because we've been to Lincoln's home and ah like, I don't know, bunch.
00:33:47
Speaker
Yeah. Eisenhower near here. yeah know so There's a state park and i I'm not sure. i think it's just outside the state park is his home. might be in it.
00:33:57
Speaker
I'm not sure. Yeah. um I've been there camping, but haven't really explored the area. Yeah, we've been camping there too. So, of yeah at Eisenhower State Park. um now and your Am I right in saying, and listeners are going off on a slight tangent here, I like to go out to Fort Richardson State Park once a year. And am I right in saying that your family does, some somebody in your family, I think Kate told me, does, there's a big military reenactment re-enactment thing that goes on there.
00:34:28
Speaker
um Yeah. Yeah. My dad does a Civil War. race Okay. this There we go. Because that's a really cool, there's a, there's a hike there that I love. It's a beautiful hike. But there's really cool buildings, like they've they've restored and all of that stuff.
00:34:43
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. See, there, Hempstead is down by College Station, and that was a big battle that happened during the Civil War. Right. But it actually happened after the Civil War was done, but they hadn't received the news yet. They didn't know yet.
00:34:59
Speaker
And they we used to go to that one every single year, like from the time that the boys were tiny. um But they stopped doing that a couple of years ago.
00:35:10
Speaker
But it was always the weekend before Thanksgiving. This weekend, um you know, whenever everybody's listening, this will be far and far better. because this is what the it'll end up being the second weekend in april and there's one in louisiana somewhere in louisiana that he's going to do but he travels all around that's so good good yeah well next week on the ah purple door history podcast world war one why not why not why not and why not yeah sorry about that yeah we had to go off on that tangent
00:35:46
Speaker
But, um yeah, I've never been to Williamsburg. I mean, I'm not a big history guy. Like, I like it and I appreciate it. I'm i'm sure I'd find it interesting to go there. But, again, I like that Ross and Jack have this moment. But this is where we go back to the girls' apartment and the doctors have arrived.
00:36:07
Speaker
And Monica and Rachel unravel, end up insulting each other. Okay. I'm not quite sure why. There was... I know, but it was just, I think it's the stress.
00:36:18
Speaker
Right. It was really weird to me that they came into the apartment, they took off their jackets. There's a coat rack. Yes, yes.
00:36:30
Speaker
Right there. Right behind the door. noticed that. And then it was all awkward with the coats and then they ended up taking them over to the couch. Right. Like, were they so stressed out and confused that they forgot to take their coats? It was very odd to me.
00:36:46
Speaker
it It was. It was a very awkward moment. Now, Kate has a question for you about this scene. And I think and i agree with Kate on this, but I didn't catch it. I've got to give her some credit here.
00:36:58
Speaker
um Monica, as Rachel, basically says, i left a left but a man at the altar. But, you know, that's me, you know, selfish. Kate doesn't think it was a selfish act of Rachel leaving at all.
00:37:11
Speaker
No. But wondered what you thought. And I agree with her. But she wondered, you know, at the time and, you know, the the society that Rachel lived in, she could understand Rachel going through with it. But she doesn't feel it's selfish. And I don't either.
00:37:25
Speaker
No, I don't. If you're going to... It seems like it would be a lot more selfish to have gone through with it and gotten married and then... Yeah. Just for the sake of appearances.
00:37:44
Speaker
Absolutely. and it's I mean, obviously, it's an unfortunate situation for everybody. Nobody wants to be left at the altar or leave somebody at the altar, but... I agree with you. I think it would be more selfish to keep up the appearance and essentially, not going to lock down Barry, but you know marry somebody that you don't really love.
00:38:05
Speaker
That, to me, would be more selfish, I think. that Yeah. we're both – I didn't notice it, but Kate caught it when we talked about it. I was like, yeah, I agree with you. Well, and later on in the episode – Monica does apologize to Rachel for saying that, that it wasn't really selfish. And so I was thankful for that because that bothered me too, because I was like, wow.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yeah, they got very ugly with each other. They did really quickly, I felt. Monica did make hummus, and hummus is not one of those things I eat often, but when I do, I'm oh, this is so, I should eat this every day.
00:38:44
Speaker
but um Yeah, it is good. It's really good. with And i forget I forget about our friend hummus until I see it like in the shops or on TV. Yeah, we should eat that more often.
00:38:57
Speaker
i um We cut to the next scene. I guess it's the next morning. We're still in the girls' apartment. And Monica's trying to explain to her dad. I think, is it Monica trying to explain what happened on the phone?
00:39:11
Speaker
No. Rachel, because Monica pretending to be Rachel because they were fighting and they didn't answer the phone. Right. That's right. Rachel's dad called, so he handed it to Monica. Yeah.
00:39:25
Speaker
That's right. And then she said that, yeah. and And then the next day, Rachel's trying to explain to her dad that she did not sleep with that guy because she knew that, you know, I guess his dad and him were fighting over business or something. Right. and And then Monica yells, are these your condoms? And then Monica's like, it's Monica. She's drunk again.
00:39:51
Speaker
And they're still being ugly the next morning. That scene is cut from the stream, but Kate remembered that scene. Oh, okay. Yeah. yeah that That bit of the scene, I should say, is not there.
00:40:04
Speaker
Yeah, because then they're still being ugly. And then the the hospital beeps in. Right. She's talking to her dad about that.
00:40:16
Speaker
and um And then it's like, okay, oh, we're in trouble. Let's make up. Yeah, the reality of of trying to commit insurance fraud. And how stressful that must be. Yeah, I wouldn't be good at that. yeah no No, i would never be able to keep it all straight.
00:40:36
Speaker
Like, I have a hard time just, is it's ah it's like that um Mark Twain quote, yeah always tell the truth, you'll have less to remember.
00:40:47
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Right. Something along those lines. Yeah. Just today, Kate asked, I was out and Kate said, can you swing by Walgreens, a local pharmacy and convenience store, um to pick up some something from their photo center she had had printed out.
00:41:03
Speaker
And they handed it to me and went, all right, have a good day. And I thought, okay, great, Kate's paid for it. And walked out and then I thought, did she pay for it? Because you can sometimes, you can choose to pay on online or in person.
00:41:17
Speaker
But was already in my car almost all the way home and I thought, have I just stolen this from Walgreens? So the first thing I did when I came in was, Kate, did you pay for this online? Because if not, I need to go back. So i wouldn't do good i wouldn't be a good insurance fraudster, I don't think. No, no. no that said So if anybody's listening who might be curious.
00:41:38
Speaker
um But thankfully, the girls just forgot to sign the form. um and then joey enters and ursula has stood stood her up and you can see this is conflicted um in in phoebe's head to me you know she's i took it as she's obviously happy that that relationship's coming to an end but her friend is hearting and phoebe's got such a big heart um but yeah we bounce back over to riffs um And I do enjoy this, you know, Phoebe and Ursula together at the same scene, as we've discussed in part one.
00:42:16
Speaker
And she finds out what you know what's going on with Joey, and Ursula's like, oh, yeah, basically it's over. um This is what I've, like I said, I couldn't tell you how many times I've watched this episode.
00:42:28
Speaker
eight I never understood how Joey figured out it was Phoebe in a couple of scenes' time. When initially thought it was Ursula. And it goes back to this scene.
00:42:41
Speaker
Do you know what I'm talking about? The sweater? The sweater. It didn't occur to me that Ursula re-gifts... defeat the one that the the ah the sweater to Phoebe, and of course Phoebe knows that Joey gave it to her because she tried it on, none of that clicked for me at all.
00:42:59
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, wow. ah Yeah. i always figured he just kind of looked at, you know, something about Phoebe in a scene or two's time. About the noise she made, right?
00:43:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Because she made a noise, and that's what I think clued him in, that that was Phoebe and not Ursula. Yeah. Right. But yeah, Ursula's just not a nice human being. Again, we'll be leaning on Steve for this.
00:43:26
Speaker
I don't know what kind of role she plays in Mad About You, but I'd be interested to see if she's kind of mean, basically, and a liar that she is in this, yeah in Friends. Well, I would imagine from the first part with the people that came from Mad About You,
00:43:46
Speaker
And they said, you know, ah like, ah did they said she was mean, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, that's right. that the word that they used? I think so. awful. It was mean or awful or something. It wasn't anything nice, certainly.
00:44:03
Speaker
No, at all. That we know. um So Monica and Rachel then arrive at the hospital and it's quite a quick scene, I think. And the lady's like, you're that stupid, you know, that she needs another new form.
00:44:17
Speaker
Again, you think somebody at the hospital might have caught it on to the fact there's some something ah something not good going on here. Well, and, okay, so i have to think, you know, back then,
00:44:32
Speaker
But I know now you can't go to a hospital and get forms and go sit down and not show your ID. Right. Your ID is absolutely required.
00:44:45
Speaker
um And if they look to like or something, maybe they could pull it off. Yeah, it's definitely not based in reality. No. This one.
00:44:56
Speaker
But they get the new forms and then we actually go to their apartment where Ross and Chandler are playing Scrabble. But before we get into this, do you have a favorite board game? ah do.
00:45:08
Speaker
What is it? Clue. That's a mighty fine choice. Okay, bonus trivia question. What is the board game Clue called in the UK?
00:45:20
Speaker
What? It's not Clue? it is it's it's a It's very similar, but it's not called Clue.
00:45:28
Speaker
Evidence? It's called Cluedo. Cluedo? Why it's called that? and it's one of those things where it's the same thing, but is it a copyright issue that one place had one name and they couldn't get in the other? I don't know.
00:45:42
Speaker
But Cluedo. Weird. Huh? Is it all the same characters and roots? Yeah, the you know and mustard and green and purple or whatever it is and the pipe. Yeah, i think i think it's all the same.
00:45:54
Speaker
Huh. Yeah, the Cluedo. Yeah. yeah Next time I go back home, I'll need to pick you up a copy of Cluedo. Yeah, that's crazy. Huh. I wonder why. You can put that alongside the Philosopher's Stone. Right. And you'll have a little anglophile collection. Right.
00:46:15
Speaker
i like that I've not played that game in a very, very long time. That's a good one. I do enjoy it. I do. yeah What's yours? So when i when I wrote down the question to ask you, i don't know if I have one.
00:46:28
Speaker
I really enjoy playing board games. um I really enjoy. played not so much now, but played a lot of poker in my time, which is good. We'll get to that next week. Yes.
00:46:39
Speaker
Same. yeah yeah Yes. you So that's not a board game, though. I wouldn't classify it as that. The last one we played recently that i really like was a Ticket to Ride. Okay, I also loved that game.
00:46:51
Speaker
Yeah, there's there's a a few versions of it. and like If we played it more, I'd get more versions of it. But that one I enjoy. i enjoy games that are fairly simple, but there is an element of skill to them. It's just not complicated. Yeah.
00:47:07
Speaker
So everyone can still have fun without it. But anything like anything but like Monopoly, all of that stuff, I just enjoy them in general and just don't do them enough, to be honest. Yeah. Uh-huh.
00:47:18
Speaker
Be good, yeah. We'll have to get a game of Clue. You, Joseph, come over. <unk> We'll do that. there you go. I will destroy everyone. I like your confidence. Well, as you have alluded to in Bamboozled, um Ross thinks he's got lots of points for Kidney, but unfortunately it's Idney because Marcel does not have a hairball or a farball whatever it is. He's evidently, so at least at least at this point, swallowed title.
00:47:45
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So we, um, they rush him over to the waiting room or to the hospital and they see the girls in the waiting room. I love that iconic moment where they all see each other.
00:47:57
Speaker
And then they look back like, wait a minute. wait a minute and and I mean, the timing of that, um, yes really, it really was something. Um, and then here come our two doctor friends again.
00:48:10
Speaker
um And, you know, thankfully, they're they're willing to see Marcel. I find it odd that the animal hospital is all the way across town. They're in Manhattan. ah You know, there's stuff everywhere. there can't be you can't be that far away.
00:48:25
Speaker
Right. I mean, I guess it may be as late as late at night. So that's off. yeah maybe there's the ah Maybe there's only one emergency pet.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yes. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh there. um but either way, I mean, how did they make it all the way to the regular people hospital without choking and dying? It seems that you can take it.
00:48:50
Speaker
10 minute ride yeah i don't know it was it was an odd choice um Let's see. So they see you see the girls in the waiting room and then the doctors offer to look at Marcel.
00:49:03
Speaker
But let's see, Phoebe's not there. Joey's not there because they are going to meet in Central Park. This is where I finally noticed Phoebe was wearing the sweater. So Joey thinks it's Ursula or the cardigan or whatever it is that she's wearing. I don't remember quite.
00:49:19
Speaker
Is it cardigan actually? I don't recall now. Uh, I mean, it it doesn't, it's not a pullover. It has buttons. Okay. I don't know. What is that?
00:49:31
Speaker
I guess that's a cardigan. Maybe. but Yeah. It has, have an old, well, anyway. Yeah. I would call it a sweater, but cardigan might be the correct term.
00:49:42
Speaker
might be Yeah, I didn't quite notice. But I think phoebe Phoebe being such a good friend here wants to let Joey down easily. ah As you said, you know, what what do we said under the bridge? I was drunk.
00:49:56
Speaker
All these bits and pieces. But yeah what a great friend she is, i think. She could have been just thrilled that Joey and Ursula were no longer together, which I'm sure part of her is. Yeah, but the fact that she took The time to try to get closure for her friend because she knows her sister sucks and wasn't going to give him that. and so she went through all of that to make sure that he got the closure he wanted.
00:50:24
Speaker
Absolutely. A good friend. I think, again, as we've talked about, you for me, Joey and Phoebe, two the best friends um in terms of maintaining and respecting the friendships and things that they all have.
00:50:36
Speaker
But then we go over to Well, it's the final scene, except for the end credits for us who are streaming, where Marcel wakes up. And it really a is a very touching moment, isn't it, where Marcel grabs Ross's finger.
00:50:52
Speaker
Yes, I guess. Because, you know, it is sweet because it's a throwback to, you know, and they were talking about the monkey. i can't even take care of a monkey and all of that. And then talking about his dad or him grabbing his dad's finger and all that.
00:51:14
Speaker
Yeah. And then, you know, obviously Marcel is a genius because he was trying to spell out monkey. Right. it's ah It's so good. It's so good. I've just had a thought.
00:51:26
Speaker
Now, when you were watching this on the DVD, did you you, I assume because you got the question right, the final scene where it's in Spanish? Yes. have I don't know anything of what they said other than the very few basic ones, but we I might have to ask our friend Mrs. Bowling, who was on the live episode, yeah who learned English watching Friends, which is from Mexico. If their Spanish was correct.
00:51:49
Speaker
because i it it was very literal translations because he's like you know hello friends like yes comes in and says that and i i don't know and i say that i work at an elementary school we do say hello friends hello friends what i guess you know 20 people say that to their actual friends. i don't Yeah, I will we'll see the Bolings tomorrow.
00:52:18
Speaker
Yes, ask. I've got Mr. Bolings' number. I may give him a text. um he He's pretty fluent in Spanish too. so Yeah. We will so we will report back.
00:52:29
Speaker
Yes. They are so fancy. They are fancy indeed. Wonderful, wonderful people. But that's it. It ties up on that note and that final scene where they're just in the girl's apartment. I'm trying to remember quite what happens, what even they're talking about.
00:52:46
Speaker
you remember? No, because they were coming up. He comes in and he's like, hello, friends. ah Yeah, I don't i think it anything. It wasn't anything of any substance.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, we'll find out. Yeah, and they talked about ugly naked guy. And then it was something about um the remote control because Marcel had the remote. That's right.
00:53:15
Speaker
i i'll shoot When we're finished recording today, I'll shoot a message over to Mr. Bowling and see what he has to say. about that but yeah so that's the summary of this episode now let's see um so for brand new information we would usually deep dive into something but now we are going to if I can work our software correctly we will now cut over to Steve who's going to give us some NBC ER Thursday night extravaganza information hey steve good for Steve here goes Steve
00:53:54
Speaker
Hello, it's Steve again from We're Listening to Frasier Podcast. Alistair once again got in contact about the one with two parts, this time about episode part two. We see Noah Weil and George Clooney of yeah ER r fame enter the world of Friends in this episode.
00:54:07
Speaker
Many wouldn't consider this an ER Friends crossover. However, in my opinion, this episode doesn't count. George Clooney plays Doug Ross, where Noah Weil plays John Carter in ER. In Friends, they do appear as doctors in this episode, but, and it's a big but, Clooney plays Dr. Michael Mitchell in Friends, where Wilde portrays Dr. Jeffrey Rosen, hence making it a cameo and not a crossover.
00:54:29
Speaker
The reason the pair appear is due to both shows filming at the same studio, which is Warner Brothers in Los Angeles. Both were filmed for NBC. The cast would often visit each other's sets and Noah Wye was known to be friends with Jennifer Aniston and the late Matthew Perry before friends actually became a hit.
00:54:46
Speaker
So that's why the pair appear in this episode.
00:54:50
Speaker
And we are back. Thank you, Steve, for that sound bite. um I don't think we mentioned this last week, but if you enjoy, like, love, or have never watched Frasier, please check out the We're Listening Frasier podcast.
00:55:03
Speaker
You will hear Steve and Will on that every week. And honestly, they inspired this podcast starting. They're wonderful human beings and do a great job of revisiting friends.
00:55:14
Speaker
um They're the best part of 200 episodes in, so you'll have a lot of catching up to do. It is worth every minute of your time. So check out the We're Listening podcast. It's frasierpod on Instagram.
00:55:27
Speaker
You will not regret it. But, Deanne, now that you and I are back, who is your Gunther Central Pack of the Week? It's Phoebe. Interesting. Yes, I picked Phoebe because because of that very end where she even though she was not rooting for that relationship to work and she was not happy about it and everything else but she stepped up and and gave her friend closure or tried to give her friend closure which i thought was just very nice i thought it was very very noble and i struggled between phoebe and one other character and i'm trying hard to put my um
00:56:12
Speaker
pregra preconceptions, I guess, aside. he like because Just because Chandler's funnier and to me like across the whole series, he his bar is raised actually to be my Gunther Central pack for the week because he's funny all the time, which maybe isn't fair. So I need to think about my criteria.
00:56:32
Speaker
But Phoebe was a very, very close second. You're going to be upset with me at with Ross for me. I had a feeling you were going to go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. really did. Because I had to justify it Yes, and I've given, I've given, i gave Ross, he was mine one week, wasn't he?
00:56:51
Speaker
Or he was, if he wasn't, he was a close second. Right. I don't, is there are some episodes where he does Not terrible.
00:57:02
Speaker
Yeah, I've given it to him. well Well, I won't say, but this is not the first time I've selected Ross. I've got my list here. But there's really three reasons. um I like the scene with him and Jack. Again, a bias. I like Jack. And I like that Ross was vulnerable and opened up to him about stuff.
00:57:20
Speaker
I really, i don't know what it is about the way he drops the cake. scared the crap out of me. like it's it's It's done so well and I really like that scene. And then just a very touching scene with Marcel. You see his character grow.
00:57:33
Speaker
I think David Schwimmer plays it really well. yeah It's a pivotal, pivotal episode for me for Ross. So had to had to give it to him. And finally, how many cups of coffee, Central Park's Dark Roast Coffee, would you give this episode today? I gave this one eight cups.
00:57:54
Speaker
Good for you. Good for you. Yes, I did. Which is interesting because the first half, I only gave six. Right. Yes. And so i for me, it really worked out that we separated it because this is a lot more enjoyable of an episode.
00:58:11
Speaker
like the second half than the first half to me. Yes. I'm right there with you. I gave it seven and an espresso. So we're both robing right there. I've noticed that I'm giving a lot either sixes or sevens. I do have some higher, but i I'm going to need to, you know, I don't know. don't want to be all sixes and sevens.
00:58:31
Speaker
Right. So we'll see. um Because, yeah, we've just got, so let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, only seven more till the end of the season. Wow. Which is crazy. Isn't that crazy? We're flying along through season and one.
00:58:45
Speaker
We're going to have to do some sort of special episode at the end, at the end of season one. I've got a couple of thoughts but no real ideas. so listeners, if you have any of what we should do, let us know.
00:58:58
Speaker
um but we'll definitely do something special to celebrate the end of season one. But as we wrap this up, do you have any final thoughts on part one or part two?
00:59:11
Speaker
Yeah, I think that ah this part two, like I said, I'm glad that we split this one into two. and And i I think that the girls were just so funny in this one, like all three of them.
00:59:29
Speaker
But the Rachel and Monica were so funny with the back and forth and all of that. Yeah. Yeah. Brilliantly done. I assume that there's outtakes or at least they must have tried it many times to get that exactly right, um to make it look as off the cuff as it was.
00:59:49
Speaker
um Because, yeah, they did a great job with that. But next week, ah man, i'm looking forward to this one, the one with all the poker. um Yes, it's pretty good one.
01:00:01
Speaker
Yeah, not only do I enjoy the game myself, I think we we see some great stuff in this one. So looking forward to that. But on that note, thank you, everybody, for tuning in to the Purple Door podcast.