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S1E23 - The One With The Birth
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Join Al and Dee and we discuss being stuck, professions you wouldn't date and baby names!
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Introduction to the Purple Door Podcast
00:00:05
Speaker
Well, hello and welcome to the latest episode of the Purple Door Podcast, a Friends Rewatch Pod. I am one of your hosts, Alistair, alongside Dee. Dee, how are you today?
00:00:16
Speaker
I'm doing great, Al. It is what whatever day it is. and Right. ah ah Summer is summer is is so very close.
00:00:28
Speaker
By the time that this comes out, it will be summer. Right. It's a little blown. And it's awesome. The last day for our kids at school. Was the last day for you for your kids on Friday?
00:00:38
Speaker
No, ours was Thursday. Thursday. Okay, we finished. We at we had half days, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Hosts' Background in Education
00:00:45
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As regular listeners will know, Dee and I are both in education and slightly different roles, but both in schools. And um it is the season to say goodbye to the kids for the summer.
00:00:56
Speaker
lots of tears this year i don't know how it was at your campus but like i had tears because this was um you know my fifth grader hits his last year right elementary so i had mama tears but like the kids were so many of them were so genuinely sad and Um, I, I just, there's a lot of feelings, but it was a very nice end of the school year. And then Friday we had our teachers and closed out with them. And it was, it was just lots of, um, it was a bit, very bittersweet week.
00:01:37
Speaker
Well, it's it's good to be sad because then that means that obviously you've done something right up there and, you know they're missing their teachers and going to miss being in school. So a very good thing indeed, it seems to me.
00:01:50
Speaker
yeah yeah Yeah, it's sort of similar with us. And I'm i'm a little disconnected from all the emotions because I'll be teaching summer school starting in a week. So we'll see yeah plenty of the kids, you know, and and lots of the staff and things like that. But, you know, it's sort of like a...
00:02:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's not quite just black and white, we're done for the summer. I'll be sort of easing into it over June. But it has been a very exciting time at your house.
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It's a lot
Personal Milestones and Listener Engagement
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going on. Yeah, our youngest ah has finished high school, graduated. She was class president, got to speak at graduation. was going to like such an amazing speech.
00:02:31
Speaker
It was cool. oh but she did She did so well. We might have to guess her on the podcast. now that She's shaken off the fear, the stage fright. She had a little bit, but she me she did so well. But it was like thousands of people that she spoke in front of.
00:02:47
Speaker
and Oh, yeah. she was She's a rock star. Oh, yeah. Whenever I was 18, not. No, sir. No, sir. I wouldn't be the nervous wreck. No, she did a tremendous job, nailed it. And like said, she's got, in this stage of her life especially, she's got the Midas touch.
00:03:07
Speaker
So congratulations to, let's see, I mean, we're we have Fred and George doing great things, Lulu graduating, the idea just lots of celebrations. Yes. Around both of our households just now.
00:03:20
Speaker
But we don't let those celebrations get in the way of the important things such as recording a friend's podcast. This is absolutely the truth. Yes. I mean, let's not forget.
00:03:31
Speaker
Yes. Yes. This is it. This is it. We did hit another couple of little milestones This week, now again, we record usually about two weeks ahead of time, just in case life happens. We don't want to to miss a Thursday release.
00:03:44
Speaker
But it's nice to see our numbers are ticking over. We're hitting, you know, we've hit several thousand listeners on Spotify, several thousand on Apple now. several thousand downloads, I should say for each one, plus quite a lot on Zencast and other things. So it's just, and it's, none of this is about the numbers. We just have a great time connecting with people and having a blast, yeah but it's just always nice to see that people are listening.
00:04:08
Speaker
So thank you guys all for tuning in. And we hope that you are enjoying listening as much as we are making this podcast. Absolutely. And we really enjoy connecting with our listeners too. So in our purple book,
00:04:23
Speaker
Purple Door Podcast Club Facebook page. um We're trying to be active there. And then our Instagram, I enjoyed going live this past week.
00:04:34
Speaker
And that was super fun. And just, you know, being able to interact and talk and um just have that little happy corner of life of geeky, dirty, like just enjoyments.
00:04:49
Speaker
Indeed, indeed. Without you guys out there, it's just the two of us yakking through microphones to each other. Which is fun too. Which would be awesome. we'd We'd still do it. Yeah, without a doubt.
Season Progress and Episode Challenges
00:05:01
Speaker
um But tell you what, why we are, yeah, this is ah the penultimate episode of the season. Yes. The one with the birth. um We've got lots to talk about, lots to say. But before all that, let's, of course, get stuck in to Bamboozled.
00:05:17
Speaker
Yes. I have eight questions today. Four, five, six. I have eight as well. I like it. wonder if we have any better. Probably. Probably. i i will say I found this one tricky to come up with lots of questions as we will talk about because it's essentially just one location.
00:05:39
Speaker
um but You know, I believe this is the first episode where we're not in the girls' apartment at all, um ever, or in Central Park. i think those I think there may have been one without the boys' apartment.
00:05:52
Speaker
But ah certainly the first is sort of a bottle episode. It's sort of all in one location, even though they bounce between rooms. Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent. But that made it tricky for me to come up with eight good questions.
00:06:03
Speaker
We'll see if we have any duplicates. Why don't you fire away first? Okay. Why was Carol late? To the, or not late, obviously, but why did they beat Carol and Susan to the hospital?
00:06:16
Speaker
Is it because, no, this ties into one of my questions. Because Carol and Susan went to the gift shop. ah Okay. Is that it? but But why?
00:06:28
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Why? Okay, so I was trying to say, why did they go to the gift shop? Because Susan wanted a chunky. from the gift shop which was my first question what did she get from the gift shop yeah which i did not even know what that was so i had to look it up because i have never heard of a chunky i've never seen it it looks disgusting it's got raisins and peanuts but i i it looks like like the packaging looks like a three musketeers bar and it's by nestle right
00:07:04
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right Nobody wants that. That's disgusting. I don't know what it is either, but I think, and I hope I'm right here. there's in it Again, we're harking back to Fraser, my other favorite show.
00:07:17
Speaker
There's an episode where Niles has to go into the hospital and Martin, his dad, becomes slightly obsessed with choosing between two sweets that are in the vending machine. that I think one of them is a chunky.
00:07:28
Speaker
That's so gross. It's peanuts and raisins. Like, just raisins and chocolate. That's so gross. I can't. I'm not a fan of of those things in chocolate. and I don't really like raisins. pick Peanuts are fine.
00:07:41
Speaker
not Not a big fan. Yeah. But it's interesting that the only references I've ever heard that are in Friends and Fraser. Don't know it. Maybe it was bigger in the 90s. Something about, I mean, I was alive in the I had never heard of chunky until this, like,
00:07:59
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And honestly, how many times have I seen this episode and I just never paid any attention to it? But I was like, what is it that they've got? Right. Interesting. And that's why this is so much fun.
00:08:12
Speaker
That's why we do this. Yes. All right. My first question for you is going to be, Ross and Susan both time the contractions. How long do they both say they are?
00:08:23
Speaker
Two different times. That's correct. Because Ross says it's 55 seconds. Quartz. That's right. And says 59 seconds.
00:08:36
Speaker
What? Swiss Quartz. Swiss Quartz. That's right. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Is that right? 55 and 59? 55 and 59. That's what I have here. Well done. All right. Excellent.
00:08:48
Speaker
So where's Ross's parents?
00:08:52
Speaker
Oh, I didn't write it down. Playing it through my head. Are they in Italy? I don't know. But they're on a trip somewhere. Okay, they're on trip somewhere. And they're talking about flying back. And she's like, you don't need to fly back.
00:09:06
Speaker
That's right. Maybe I just made a, so um but maybe they're in Europe or something in my head. All right, that's right. They didn't need to fly back. Good, good
Character Dynamics and Storytelling Highlights
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question. All right, my next one for you. Chandler and Monica make a pact.
00:09:19
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If they don't have kids by such an age, they're going to get together and have one. What is the age? 40. 40 indeed. Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes, indeed.
00:09:30
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um I turned 40 a couple of years ago. I can't imagine having a kid at 40, but that's just me. Yes. Yeah. all right I cannot. My youngest just you know finished elementary school. I cannot imagine having a baby right now.
00:09:45
Speaker
A toddler. Right. i can ah ah So God bless those parents. those pair Yes, indeed. Indeed. Wow. Yeah. All right.
00:09:56
Speaker
and So whenever Chandler and Monica, you know what? I'm just kidding. Because this one, if you didn't watch the uncut version, you don't know. Okay, then I won't know.
00:10:08
Speaker
Yes. Then you won't know. But yeah, it was when Chandler and Monica come back to the waiting room and they're looking for everybody and they've realized that now they're missing two more people. Who are they missing? And and then Chandler says this hilarious line,
00:10:26
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But I see now that it's in blue, so you're not gonna know, but he's like, if you, if you find anybody or pieces of anybody, and it's, it's funny because Phoebe and Joey, they're like, wait, but now where's Phoebe and Joey? Because, you know, Rachel's off talking it to the doctor and then Phoebe and Joey are just missing.
00:10:47
Speaker
And, uh, they kind of make it as something sinister as a foot, you know, it's so funny. It's a funny thing, but you won't know it. So there you go. Never mind.
00:10:58
Speaker
All right. Quite all right. Okay. Well, what does Joey, speaking of Joey, what does he say the problem with the Boston Celtics is? Oh, the players run the team.
00:11:09
Speaker
The players run the team. Well done. I thought that might be and might catch you out with that one. Well done. and Nope. All right. So what things did Joey buy for Lydia's baby?
00:11:22
Speaker
That's a great question. So he bought the the bottle-shaped balloon yeah Which is awesome. And then all I can kind of remember is he ties sort of normal balloons to the door.
00:11:35
Speaker
Yes. Is that it? Okay. Okay, good. The balloon filled with balloons. And then the baby bottle balloon that he walks off with. That's it. That was such a, I mean, I'm sure that's a director's thing. That was such a great touch.
00:11:48
Speaker
To see that. It's the only time you really see Joey with a ah paternal instinct almost. Like, I just, it just... Yeah, got me in the feels a bit because you don't really ever see that from Joey.
00:12:00
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um Not that he's... But just like little bits and pieces, you know, like tiny touches that make you go, oh Yeah. Yeah, it's good.
00:12:12
Speaker
All the feels. Right. As we'll talk about later on, Phoebe puts on the overalls with the name Ben on them. But what color are the overalls?
00:12:23
Speaker
Are they green? They are green. They aren't yet like a sort of military green army. you You are. All right. yeah can tell You've been up for a couple of hours.
00:12:35
Speaker
The gears are clicking. Life is good. I can't get anything done on time. um but you are You are absolutely fine. All right. So who's there to actually witness the birth?
00:12:53
Speaker
Ah, okay. So that's going to be, we'll we'll take into account the doctor and the the nurse. Yep, they're on my list. Then obviously Carol, Susan, Ross, and Phoebe.
00:13:06
Speaker
Who is and in the bed. In the ceiling, yeah. I love that. i think that's a brilliant, brilliant touch. Yes, that's so funny. All right.
00:13:19
Speaker
Who does Ross say Ben looks like when he is born? Oh, Uncle somebody covered in jello.
00:13:29
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I will give it to you. Yep. it's the Uncle who? Uncle Ed. Ed. Okay. Uncle Ed covered in jello. ah Okay. Nice.
00:13:40
Speaker
Yes. So who ended up winning the Knicks Celtics game?
00:13:46
Speaker
The Knicks. There you go. Because, and tell me this, because you might have listened more carefully, because I thought about it afterwards. Were the Knicks playing the Celtics?
00:13:57
Speaker
They were. Well, I thought they were. I'm not saying they're not, but I remember, I was going to write down the question, who were the Knicks playing? And ask you who or who the two teams were. And then I kind of remembered, you know, they were definitely watching the Knicks.
00:14:11
Speaker
And Joey just says, who do you like? And she says, the Celtics. Yes. So, I mean, maybe they were playing each other. I didn't go back and look. but it Okay.
00:14:22
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yeah So right I just kind of assumed that they were playing the Celtics, but on the TV, it like there was a white team and a blue team.
00:14:35
Speaker
Right. And so I didn't feel like either one of those, right? Because aren't the Celtics green? They're green and white, so they could be... Okay, so maybe the white was the Celtics and the blue was the Knicks.
00:14:49
Speaker
I don't know. Okay, well, I think that's something that I made. You might well be correct. I just wasn't sure enough to write to ask the question and I didn't go back.
00:15:00
Speaker
Well, I just walked over right off that plank. I like it. I like it. All right. Other than... I've written this down and I think I perhaps need to rephrase it. but Forget about the doctor for a minute.
00:15:14
Speaker
Okay. When all the friends enter at the end, who is the first non-parent to hold Ben? Oh, Monica. Monica, there we go.
00:15:25
Speaker
Yes, that was so sweet. All right, if you got any more from me? i do. Good. All right, how many names, ah you get extra points,
00:15:38
Speaker
If you can tell me what they were, did the baby have before landing on Ben?
00:15:46
Speaker
Hold on a second. Now, this is where I didn't, I don't remember, but it might be in my notes because. Yes, go back and look in your notes. Yes. Because normally we'll be doing the recap, but then you're like, if I had gone back. if i just That's my weekly thing. Let's see. They're arguing in the closet.
00:16:07
Speaker
Okay. Yes. Is it two? no Okay. Because i've got I've got two written down. I have Jordi and Jamie. Yes.
00:16:18
Speaker
And then he says, That was something about that the Jesse Coden-Dillon fiasco. That's right. That's right. And so then there were three more. Yes.
00:16:29
Speaker
Okay. and i And I will tell this struck it a a little chord with me in a sense. ah We'll talk about this later. But our season end recap, I was coming up with some trivia for it.
00:16:41
Speaker
And I wrote down the names that they come up with in the one with the sonogram. Where they're arguing about names. Yes. I need to add these names in there too for all the possible names.
00:16:53
Speaker
Yes. and So if you're listening to this, well, don't know if it'll be out before we record the final. Haven't figured that out. The finale for the season. Don't know. but ah But a spoiler, there'll be a question about all of Ben's potential names before he became Ben.
00:17:10
Speaker
There you go. I'm about to add those in. right. I've got one more question for you. This feels a little unfair. Okay. But we're going with it. The very final scene is shot from an unusual angle. it shot from Ben's point of view.
00:17:24
Speaker
What order are the friends in going from left to right? Oh, okay. Do you know what is so funny that you asked that? Because Monica and Chandler were together that entire episode.
00:17:37
Speaker
Yes. And they're apart during that final thing. Yes. So Chandler is on the left. Yes. So we're starting at Chandler. And I will say in my notes, two of them are very even to me. So we've got some wiggle room there. But Chandler all the way to the left.
00:17:54
Speaker
OK. Chandler's all the way to the left. I know Ross is the middle. OK. I'm going to have to talk through it. Yep. yeah And then I know that Rachel is between.
00:18:08
Speaker
OK. okay Wait. Chandler. Oh, but then that wouldn't be ah yeah, that, well, it's not an uneven. Okay.
00:18:19
Speaker
So there's Chandler and then there's Joey and Rachel. There's Chad and Ross, but like Rachel is like behind Ross's left shoulder.
00:18:33
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Okay. So we have, we, yes. And then Phoebe.
00:18:42
Speaker
Oh, uh-oh. You're very, very close to what I have. Okay, just tell me. Okay, so so from left to right as we watch it, Chandler, like you said, yeah then just Rachel, not Joey, then Ross.
00:18:56
Speaker
So Chandler, Rachel, Ross. Oh, and then Joey yeah and Phoebe are there, right? Yeah, to me it's then Phoebe, then Monica, but Phoebe and Monica are kind of on top of it one on top of the other, kind of. Okay. So that's where the wiggle room was.
00:19:11
Speaker
yeah Okay. Well, trying to figure out whenever I was watching it who was going, brrrr, yeah Somebody kept making that noise and I couldn't figure it out. Right. I did i remember the the noise, but don't remember who did it.
00:19:26
Speaker
That's funny. Okay. So I have one more. Beautiful. I'm out. Yes. um Okay. So what did Rachel change into and why? ah She changed into like ah ah a black dress, a small black dress, a cocktail dress, because she wanted to impress the the doctor.
00:19:45
Speaker
But what did she say?
00:19:48
Speaker
Oh, because you never know. You never know.
00:19:55
Speaker
I don't remember. You're going to have to tell me. It's an important day. That's it. That's it. God bless it. Because all get dressed up in fancy dresses. That's right. that I think we came up with some good questions. Going to pat ourselves on the back.
00:20:11
Speaker
Good job, guys. good job Good job, team, because there really wasn't much in the way of scenery to to work with on this one. um So I think we did a great job for our bamboozled.
00:20:23
Speaker
All right, before we get stuck into this episode, this was meant to be the season finale, this episode. yeah Yeah, I could totally see that. was meant to be, but at some point during the season, they really, i think they interviewed or you know got feedback from viewers and people were far more interested in the Rachel and Ross storyline than in Ben, unfortunately.
00:20:49
Speaker
um So they made the plan to change the season finale to something to do with Ross and Rachel. um So they had to reorganize things, do things a bit differently, but still have Ben being born.
00:21:01
Speaker
but it was definitely going to not be the season finale after they realized what really the hook of the show was, which is Ross and Rachel. Wow. hu Yeah. So I thought that was kind of cool, but um yeah, this is, I'm not sure I need to leave it lean on Steve for this. The definition of a bottle episode, I think a bottle episode, well, no bottle episode is sort of a standalone thing, but there's a, there's a term for really, really, they don't change scenes. Yeah.
00:21:30
Speaker
very much. And of course, this entire episode is filmed in the hospital, um jumping between a couple of different rooms in the closet. But I think that makes for a very challenging episode to write, i would imagine, because you don't have as many um scenes to bounce bounce back and forth between.
00:21:50
Speaker
um But we do start in the hospital waiting room, Ross, understandably a nervous wreck. um I think Joey, Rachel and Chandler and Monica, they're all there.
00:22:03
Speaker
Phoebe arrives a little late. Perhaps she ran home to get her guitar. um Not quite sure why she came in a little bit afterwards, but that was kind of my guess. um And you were right, Carol and Susan, a bit late because, yeah, Susan wanted a ah chunky bar and perhaps that whale stuffed animal, stuffed toy that was on Susan's lap. I assume they picked that up. and Yeah, I was trying to think if that whale had any sort of significance, if if it was just a random, you know, if it'd be the dinosaur, that would have been quite cool.
00:22:39
Speaker
Oh, that would have been good, but not from them. not from them It wouldn't be from them. Right. Um, I, I thought, oh, sorry. No, no, go ahead.
00:22:52
Speaker
In that scene, I thought it was so funny. The part where Monica or Rachel's trying to make the joke about the, riding the taxi over and it's $2 per contraction and 50 cents and Chandler's, oh, it's fine when he does it.
00:23:09
Speaker
He's like, you gotta know. You got to know, what I don't remember exactly what he's saying, but you know, like read the room. Like that's what we say all the time about. But, um and then at the end he makes that joke but about, you know, oh, I've got that bumper sticker.
00:23:25
Speaker
Whenever they're about stopping for a chunky. Don't stop. That's right. Yeah. and yeah I thought that was so funny. yeah when When you looked up a chunky, can you still buy them?
00:23:39
Speaker
ah Oh, that's a great. Yeah, you sure can. $1.99 at Walgreens. Hardware. ah you can get two dollars and thirty nine cent that ace hardware Wow, Ace Hardware.
00:23:54
Speaker
Who'd have thought it? You can get a whole box at a Target for $32. This is good to know. um yeah At some point, we're going to have like a friend's food extravaganza of some sort. so we'll put Chunkies on the list.
00:24:11
Speaker
no you Not that you and I are trying them. Yeah, no, but we'll watch somebody else. I'm sure somebody else would enjoy it, but it's just not me.
00:24:23
Speaker
eggs Yes, not me either. Not a big fan. um We now go into the delivery room, is and it's Dr. Franz Bowe. Is that how we say it? I can't quite Oh, I wrote down Franz Well.
00:24:34
Speaker
It might well be. Who knows? It's a weird name. it's It's a weird name, and I always like to assume in my head that it's like a nod to somebody in real life, you know, a writer's in-law or something.
Humor and Unexpected Twists
00:24:49
Speaker
You know, I don't... Franz Blow is what it is. Just looked it up. yeah It sure is. Okay. Franz Blow is what we're going with. But I thought he was an odd character. But ah yeah, we meet him, Ross, and Susan.
00:25:02
Speaker
They're kind of jostling for second peg here. Jostling for position to help Carol. Always. What's new? Always this is the way it's going to be. I do like that they both run out to get the ice chips and Rachel just walks in with them.
00:25:16
Speaker
That is very, very well done. Yes. um And then Rachel starts to flirt with this doctor who, maybe it's just me, like I said, he just comes across as weird. And I think i think we find that he is kind of weird at the end of it. He is, 100%. Yeah.
00:25:33
Speaker
yeah yeah um yeah So yeah, obviously jump in with any scenes or information I've missed. But yeah, they, they Ross and um Susan run out, which of course is very important to the storyline.
00:25:45
Speaker
um But we go back to the waiting room and I do like that Monica, who's it? Somebody says, let's get some coffee. And think Chandler's like, oh, yeah, we never do that. Well, and that's just Monica and Chandler because Chandler's asleep on her.
00:26:00
Speaker
And then she's talking about, I want a baby. And you he says, Right, like, ah not not tonight, honey, or something like that. That's right. And it's like, let's go get coffee.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, because we never do that. I do like seeing this dynamic with Monica and Chandler. Of course, there's some foreshadowing there, but just their friendship kind of blossom independently of the others. Yeah.
00:26:29
Speaker
Because they're together the entire episode. Yeah. The entire episode. like this. I do too. So let's see, Joey's talking about basketball, and that's when um Leah Remini's character comes in.
00:26:42
Speaker
Now, I love Leah Remini because Kate got, I think the show's long since off the air. There was sort of a reality show just about her family. um Yeah.
00:26:53
Speaker
I forget what it was called, but like I think it was that her mother or mother-in-law. um was a hilarious agent is a hilarious person um but i just i think she's a fantastic actress she's very funny i really liked king of queens i thought it in the last couple of seasons i could have done without but that was the writing more than the acting um but i enjoyed it nonetheless and i just think she's a great actress and a great character um yeah
00:27:24
Speaker
in this um and i love what she brings out in joey too which we'll get to but um yeah like that they kind of start arguing about you know basketball a bit um she starts going to labor and there's clearly there's no no father around um she hasn't told i forget his name but we find out his name at the end i think uh the name of the father of the baby no i don't think we never have I made a note that we never find it out.
00:27:56
Speaker
i would remind this yeah I thought maybe she said o to her mother. Maybe she forgot it. That's right. um We'll see. um But yeah, we're still in the waiting room and Phoebe starts singing the song. I forget the words, but it was really funny.
00:28:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah. but theyre tight Yeah, I've got it right here. Actually, they're tiny and chubby and so sweet to touch. People grow up and resent you so much. Now they're yelling at you and you don't know why. You cry and you cry and you cry.
00:28:29
Speaker
That's right. You cry and you cry. you cry cry. I'm sure it's out there. I assume somebody's done this on YouTube. All of Phoebe's songs that she's ever spoken. I'm sure that that's been done. um That just needs to be a playlist for me. of Phoebe's songs.
00:28:47
Speaker
um Yeah, so let's see. We've got to um Ross tips her to stop playing, which is kind of mean, but it's kind of funny too. oh Somebody's wheeled out with twins.
00:29:00
Speaker
um And then Monica says that she wants one. And this is where Chandler, they they have the pack to the forty year old pact, pact. I don't know that it's a real pact. I feel like it's an offer of a pact.
00:29:12
Speaker
An offer of, right. Okay, maybe they didn't solidify it. And then, yeah, because he she totally loses it. It starts, well, why would I not be married by the time I'm 40? And why?
00:29:24
Speaker
That's right. She kind of loses it right there. you know So the suggestion on Chandler's part, but that was not a pact. It just occurred to me that, so let's see. So this is what we just mentioned. We see this lovely friendship between Monica and Chandler.
00:29:42
Speaker
And another place that their relationship really starts to take another step, they're all ready together. But when Phoebe gives birth to the triplets, they're sneaking around in the hospital trying to get pregnant. So there's something about, maybe it brings out a maternal instinct in mom. Well, obviously does.
00:30:00
Speaker
But just, it's a timeline of a little growth in the relationship. Yeah, just as we're talking, that just... Yeah. Yeah. um Rachel went home to get changed into something fancy for the doctor. We know that it's not because it's a special day.
00:30:17
Speaker
And then Chandler kind of makes I can't remember exactly what he says, but a joke about, you know, God, was your dad a doctor? um And I wrote down that, God, wouldn't Chandler know what Rachel's dad does for a living?
00:30:29
Speaker
But then when I thought about it, was like, I've known you for 10 years, plus 15 years. I've got no idea what your dad does or did for a living. Oh, that's true. You know, or maybe any other of my friends, really. There's a good chance I wouldn't know. But they are very close. You would have thought that it would have come up in conversation.
00:30:48
Speaker
Well, do you think that maybe that was a joke? Right. Right. You know, like, yeah that seems like a quippy joke that he would make. That's true. That's true. um Yeah, because it immediately struck me as odd, but then I was kind of reflecting, thinking about some of my closest friends.
00:31:08
Speaker
I know what some of their fathers or mothers did for a living, but not others. so Well, and that's true, because it's not like, because I'm like, I'm thinking about friends that I've got, because I'm like, yeah, I i don't know.
00:31:20
Speaker
But... the people whose dads i do know what they do i've known them forever right and chandler yeah i don't o because he only ever would have seen her over at monica's house whenever they were in college but at this point they don't know that they knew each other then right that's true that's true and and So I don't know, it because I think that could work either way, because it sounds like a joke he would make, too.
00:31:52
Speaker
It does. Absolutely does. Yeah, like you said, the storyline, the sort of pre-storyline to Friends changes a little bit. um a couple of times, which we'll get to as and when we see those episodes.
00:32:05
Speaker
um We go back to the delivery room. Dr. Franz Blau is there. Ross and Susan still jostling for position to help Carol. Oh, no, sorry. that've just I've completely read the wrong note.
00:32:16
Speaker
Ignore that. um were in Lydia's delivery. Now, I had to look up her name because you you were right. You said earlier, earlier Leah Remini's character is Lydia. but Because I don't remember them ever saying her name. So i had to Google what character does Leah Remini play.
00:32:31
Speaker
um But do do they actually say Leah? It's ah Lydia, excuse me, at some point. I don't know because I wrote down Lydia in the very first scene that where they're talking about the the game.
00:32:46
Speaker
I wrote down Lydia But he calls her lady. Like, hey, lady, whenever she starts talking about how we make stuff.
00:32:57
Speaker
And so then whenever I was, but that's where I wrote it down. so I don't know if they ever did, be honest. Yeah, I wasn't sure either afterwards. i where I was making notes.
00:33:07
Speaker
was like, what was her name? So just Googled it. um but she's talking to her mother on the phone i thought that's where she said she said the name nick for the baby's dad she's not calling it but i might be wrong again i could be not remembering that correctly but joey's there helping he calls him a nick fan but i thought the first time i thought she said she called joey nick finn And I'm like, who is Nick Finn? Then I turned on the captions. She says Nick's fan.
00:33:42
Speaker
Nick's fan. And I was like, oh, that is not Nick Finn. No, we misad that one. Um, You know, because I'm like, oh, this will be a fun little rabbit trail. But no, because it wasn't. That was just old lady years or is there something. Yeah. I'm just thinking Leah Remini. The other show that we i really enjoyed watching, I think it's done as well now, is her thing all about Scientology.
00:34:08
Speaker
You know, because at this time, she was very much a Scientologist. Yes. And of course, she she left and made a big series about it, um which was really, really interesting.
00:34:20
Speaker
um But yeah, Joey ends up talking to the mother who hangs up on him when he says he's an actor. which Very, very funny. um But he kind of ends up leaving because they get in like a little argument because Joey's like, yeah, you should call the dad.
00:34:36
Speaker
um And he kind of walks out. um i I just, I really like this B storyline because we see this different side of Joey. um We go back over to Carol's delivery room and then Susan says, now this is where I've got the names Jordy having previously agreed on Jamie.
00:34:59
Speaker
Now, I know that Ross is a bit disconnected from all of this, you know, at this point, especially. um But how did this baby name discussion not come up previously?
00:35:13
Speaker
like How would Ross not know that they've changed the name? I mean, I guess this, I really want to like Carol and Susan, and I do grow to like them. But at this point, again, I feel like they're ostracizing Ross a bit. If they've changed the name, and they if if she hadn't said this, if she hadn't said the baby's name, the baby would have been born, and Ross would have still thought the name was Jamie.
00:35:34
Speaker
Right. Right. I mean, that just seems like that just seems like madness to me. Like, they they're keeping these things from Ross. Well, and I don't know. How do you see that? You know I am one to quickly hop on a train of the manipulation and and the ugliness. I'm quick.
00:35:52
Speaker
But depending on when all that conversation happens and how often they actually communicate, right that could have been...
00:36:03
Speaker
two nights before and they just hadn't talked to Ross. So it hadn't come up. And then on the way to the hospital, they were like, you know, Susan's like, I just really, really cannot have Jamie living in my house, you know? Right.
00:36:22
Speaker
And so we don't really know. I would be, ah you know, and then I don't know, because they live together. And so their conversations like.
00:36:33
Speaker
True. they're And Susan is not thinking, not at all, about how Ross needs to be included in all of this. Very true. Yeah, and I suppose we just don't know the backstory. Yeah, so I i would i would go easy on that.
00:36:51
Speaker
All right, we'll go easy. You're right. I suppose, given the backstory, this could very much be Ross at fault. It could very much be Susan and Carol. It could be neither. It could just be one of those things that just didn't get communicated.
00:37:05
Speaker
i because i I could see them agreeing on Jamie and then carol perhaps not wanting sorry Susan perhaps not rocking the boat by letting Carol know that that was the name of her ex-girlfriend.
00:37:19
Speaker
But then eventually let it it slipped or something. She kind of said, look, I've got to tell you. that would And so maybe they changed the name pretty last minute. and just And then she went to labor. that's the Nobody's fault there at all. Who knows?
00:37:32
Speaker
But um Carol has had it with both ah of them. um She's done. She kicks them both out of the room because of their arguing, which is very funny indeed. um let's We go back over to Lydia's room and the nurse is helping her breathe.
00:37:48
Speaker
And is this where Joey's kind of going like, you're the sports chant? Like, whatever is, breathe again, breathe again, harder, harder, whatever it is. Uh-huh. Yeah.
00:37:58
Speaker
yeah And this is the first of these kind of discussions, but did you recognize the nurse that's in there?
00:38:08
Speaker
Oh. Did you recognize? Oh, she makes an appearance later on in several episodes as a different character altogether.
00:38:21
Speaker
Suddenly. Wow. Okay, no. Who? Who? Who is it? She plays Estelle, Joey's agent. No way.
00:38:32
Speaker
Is that her? That's her. I'm sure that's her. With the red hair? She had red hair, right? She's obviously, you know, Joey's agent, that's ah is it's a wig. ah Yeah, June Gable. Yeah, and I'm sure she plays Joey's agent.
00:38:44
Speaker
No way. Yes, because she was brought in for this part, but she was, I think she was... and She was great. Yeah, she played Estelle and the nurse. Yep, just double-checked.
00:38:59
Speaker
Oh, how funny. Yeah! yeah Yeah, and I love Estelle. sta Estelle is up there with Janice for me in sort of small characters that just pop around once in a while.
00:39:12
Speaker
Yes, that ah would it wouldn't be the same if it wasn't them. Yeah, one of my, you know, there's certain things that you just love with no real explanation.
00:39:23
Speaker
And Estelle's cigarette holder on her table. Yes. I'm talking about it. The straw holder. That's right. We may have talked about that. We did. We did. I love that that device, you know. And you talked about how much you loved that device. That's right.
00:39:42
Speaker
Yeah, we did talk about it. See, I'm repeating myself, but it's worth it because I love that. But yeah, so that's June Gable. um Wow. Comes back as Estelle. I didn't even notice her.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah, because she it's to me, they don't look the same because I'm guessing they're both legs. But the voice to me, it's that very strong sort of Brooklyn accent to me stood out.
00:40:06
Speaker
Wow. I need a wig. Yeah, we'll never be. Let's get some Estelle wigs and just win. Yes, just do it. I love it.
00:40:17
Speaker
Well, now we end up the that Susan and Carol, no, not Susan and Carol, that would be Susan and Ross, wrote that down wrong in my notes, are arguing and the and Phoebe kind of shoves them into the closet to talk.
00:40:29
Speaker
Yeah. You know, tries to talk them down. You know, there's a kid coming and the door gets locked and they're stuck in. Now, I did notice on the door, there's just one of those little, like, nib things. know what it's really called.
00:40:44
Speaker
But you could just unlock that door from the inside. You can't lock yourself in. Stop. Are you serious? Yeah, just that you you know the little thing in the middle of the handle. But again, ah we're pulling the carton back on the magic. We don't want to do that too much.
00:40:59
Speaker
But they could have just opened the door. Yeah. But I think it's it's great that they're using this location because of what happens in there. um They're all banging on the door.
00:41:10
Speaker
Nobody's there. Nobody's opening it. um So they are truly stuck in there. um But we end up going back over to Carol's room. She's in labor. Rachel's in there just too busy flirting with the doctor, talking about Paris.
00:41:24
Speaker
um You know, what bad form from Rachel. um You know, this is going to be her friend's baby and she's too busy talking to the doctor. um You know, trying to basically get him to go out with her.
00:41:38
Speaker
um Oh, no, this is the scene, right? Where ah Lydia's room where Joey's trying to help her push. Okay, so hang on. Yes. Everything gets all messed up right here.
00:41:49
Speaker
Yes. So there's whole scene, the one that I was telling you about with the something sinister is happening here Talk to me about this. and Okay. It's just, there's a quick scene here in the uncut version where Monica and Chandler come together in the, like in the waiting room, in the lounge.
00:42:12
Speaker
And she's like, have you found them? Because they've gone off looking for Ross and Susan. And then she's, did you find them? And Chandler says, I checked the gift shop. I checked the cafeteria. And he's like shaking his head like, no, no, no.
00:42:27
Speaker
And then Monica looks around and she's like, wait, where's Phoebe and Joey? And then he said, and that's whenever Chandler says, I think there's something sinister going on here.
00:42:38
Speaker
You find any parts. If you find anyone or parts. of any anyone scream and scream again then they take off so like it's a whole scene that you didn't even see but it was so funny to me that was so funny fantastic yeah we'll need to go in a yeah fire up the dvd so then on mine it goes back to the closet right yes so it goes back to the closet and then it goes to lydia's room is it is that what it does on yours
00:43:11
Speaker
No, I think it's Lydia's room where Joey's helping her push and then it's the closet where Phoebe's singing in the corner. yeah See, because I go from the waiting room to the closet to Lydia's room and then back to the closet.
00:43:24
Speaker
Isn't that funny? Yeah, I mean, for all being in the hospital, they jump around a lot, which is needed um to keep it moving. um That's funny. But then then I think we'll get back on track because we both end up in the waiting room where Monica's on the phone her mom and dad.
00:43:39
Speaker
Yes. Is that right? Yes. So then let's go back and talk about the closet because. Yes. Yeah. Tell me your thoughts. You look like you have thoughts.
00:43:50
Speaker
Well, okay. So they're trying to get out and he falls in the tub or whatever. And what, well, I'm trying to, then we go to Lydia's room where Joey's doing another like chant chant.
00:44:06
Speaker
Yes. And then whenever we go back, oh wait, Never mind. And then she's singing. Okay. yeah It's later, whatever I want to.
00:44:18
Speaker
I have feelings about Phoebe. Okay. I think I know who this will be. but we No, you're fine. This this episode that bounces around an awful lot. Yes. And it's all, what you watched and I watched are in different orders. Interesting. was I'd be interested to see if there's any more.
00:44:36
Speaker
um but yeah monica's parents make a pretty crappy comment to her about this might be their only grandchild yeah on the phone like they they're just like i like jack but her mom it seems is kind of the well she is she's the one who leads this charge against monica a lot very unfairly um yep So no need for that comment at all.
00:44:59
Speaker
um We're still in the waiting room, and this is where it gets kind of oogie with the doctor. When Rachel's flirting. Okay, but wait. oh You missed the part. Because Chandler saves her right there.
00:45:12
Speaker
Oh, that's right. Because the mom's being a jerk, and she's like, but why? ah And everything. And then the baby walks by, so then Monica is all in her feelings, and Chandler just takes the phone and...
00:45:25
Speaker
And then hangs up. And I'm like, yes, Chandler. Yes. Good for, yes. Again, the development of their friendship. Yes. I love it. that for Very good point.
00:45:38
Speaker
Yes. Now, I wanted to ask you about this because Rachel and the doctor are flirting it and then it gets kind of oogie and she obviously can't go out with it. Now, very much keeping this from the waist up and PG, if you think back to your single days, is there any profession that would make a guy undateable for you?
00:45:59
Speaker
um yeah oh Yeah. like i oh yeah yeah Tell me. Tell me. What do you Well, I don't want to because it sounds mean.
00:46:12
Speaker
Okay. Well, okay. I'll tell you i'll tell you mine first. Because Kate and I both agree with this. And it's nothing against, well, not even a specific profession. Kate and I both kind of agreed that we would struggle if the other one traveled as part of their job.
00:46:29
Speaker
Like if they were away a lot. you know So if you were a flight attendant or a pilot or something, if she was that or if I was that, we may not have started dating.
00:46:41
Speaker
You know, if you were just away for a week or two at a time, back for a few days and away for a week or two, if you were, you know, you drove a truck for a living or something. Or a military person?
00:46:52
Speaker
Possibly. Yeah, both she and i agree that that would possibly have stopped things before they started. Hmm. Possibly. Now, so it's not really a specific profession, but we both thrive in kind of routine and and somebody being home, you know you know, every night or most nights kind of thing.
00:47:14
Speaker
know, we both travel to work a bit, you know conferences here and there. That's different. But regularly being away... I think that would be a deal breaker for both of us. um So, and that's that, of course, it's nothing against anyone who does that.
00:47:29
Speaker
Of course, it's not that. It's just what we need in a relationship is that. So yeah, we like the person home for dinner every night. um That's so very mature and realizing.
00:47:41
Speaker
See, I'm much more superficial, much more superficial, which is why I wouldn't want to share because okay i'm just I'm just superficial like that. Being like whenever I, I very much enjoy my life and my marriage and, and I could not change it.
00:47:59
Speaker
And I am very thankful to have somebody who does not travel and all of that. But that was never, uh, would have been a deal breaker my, because um my dad traveled a lot whenever I was a kid.
00:48:13
Speaker
And so I thought that was normal, you know, like that's just what happens. I don't know. right And so I, you know, whenever I was single, I, I dated a pilot at one point I dated people are a military person, like things I like having alone time as well.
00:48:35
Speaker
So. um Indeed. Oh, yeah. Kate is in the other room right now living her best alone time freedom single life. And she's got TLC on and and just just enjoying every moment. Living her life.
00:48:49
Speaker
Yeah. No. Yeah. I'm much more superficial. Much more superficial. Yeah. That's okay. no Nothing wrong with that. We've all that. Nothing wrong with that. Yes.
00:49:01
Speaker
Well, let's see. I've written that. Yeah. The dad shows up now and Leah's waiting and Leah's waiting and Lydia's waiting room because Joey's going to show up with the ad the the balloon, but the bottle balloon, which to me is one of the most like that's where I am.
00:49:15
Speaker
Oh, no, you know, we didn't talk. We didn't really talk about it. So to me, the doctor's creepy. You know, just the way he talks about his job. It's just, do surely there's a better way of discussing what you do. Like, it's not that weird. It's not that it's not creepy, but he makes it sound creepy to me.
00:49:34
Speaker
Yeah, well, and if you think through, like, comments that he made throughout the thing, I think he's just a weird dude. That's what think. The job's not weird. He is to me. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
00:49:50
Speaker
Because at the very beginning, you know, he was like, so you're here to have a baby. Oh, I see you're nine months so long. That's a good start. And it's like, you're just stupid.
00:50:01
Speaker
Like, yeah, no nothing. Yeah. And then like you're, you've got ah lady who's about to deliver a baby and all of this. And, and you're asking a lady, is she's available and.
00:50:15
Speaker
yeah Yeah. No, nothing. I mean, and maybe, maybe because of the profession that we're in like that wouldn't necessarily be ah like, whatever you're working, who's like, hey, like, right, right. right does that it's yeah it Maybe somebody.
00:50:37
Speaker
In my head, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen if you act like that at work. But again, maybe that's just our professions. You know, I don't know. but It's, yeah, creepy guy, creepy guy. Lydia's waiting room, Joey shows up with this iconic bottle balloon that I do kind of wonder if it was a random balloon.
00:50:56
Speaker
that to me kind of became iconic. Like if you see that balloon, you know it's from that episode or if it was deliberate or if it's just become something. But I love that moment where Joey is going to show up with the balloons, but then he lets them have that, you know, that the Lydia and and the dad have that moment and just, yeah, just, just lovely.
00:51:18
Speaker
I didn't notice actually, because obviously he walks away with the bottle balloon. Does it show up in Ben's delivery room? No. Okay. example I don't know.
00:51:30
Speaker
He just walks away with it. But then the thing that bothered me too is on the top, like the little part, like above or below the nipple, but above the bottle part, it's pink because she had a girl And I'm like, why did it, it's precious and it's cute, but like, why didn't you leave it? Your friend's having a boy. You're not going to give them a pink balloon.
00:51:57
Speaker
I didn't notice that. Good. ah Well, and I don't know if that matters. you know what I mean? and it that right i Yeah. That little cute walking balloon. It was just so precious that then I had to like really look at it and think about it and all that, but i was At first, I didn't think it was pink, but then I'm like, no, that is pink.
00:52:21
Speaker
Like, it's it's a girl baby bottle. So where are you taking it, buddy? Yeah. aye I love that scene. As sad as it is, I love that scene.
00:52:34
Speaker
ah Yeah. Now, so we go over to the closet, and Ross is trying to open this door with his credit card. um Now, question for you. yeah and I'm not sure of my answer. I need to think about this. Have you ever been locked or trapped in anywhere?
00:52:50
Speaker
ah Other than things like the darkroom experience we did. Not like that, but yeah yes. at the in which That was a cool thing. cool day out we had recently. yeah like Let's go with accidentally locked or trapped in somewhere you didn't want to be or couldn't get out.
00:53:07
Speaker
Okay. I don't think so because I'm actually hyper aware But whenever I worked um at a restaurant and you could get trapped in the freezer.
00:53:22
Speaker
like Yes, yes. So i was like hyper vigilant about it because I never wanted that to happen to me. And then ah like I'm trying to think through time.
00:53:34
Speaker
Like I don't know why that's a thing that that is something that if I'm walking into somewhere, I know how to get out.
00:53:44
Speaker
in fact I know. That sounds insane, doesn't it? It does little bit. ah But it's the truth. No, no. we I've got a relative who's a police officer.
00:53:58
Speaker
And he has talked about the fact that he... I think he talked about it or maybe somebody told me about him. Like he sits where he can see the exit and that's just part of it. He's seeing who's coming in.
00:54:09
Speaker
Now you'll have been through similar sort of training working in a school. So mate I wonder if there's something to do with that. But if this has been prior to your. Even whenever I was a kid and before I was a teacher and I worked in a restaurant, was I a teacher then?
00:54:25
Speaker
I was, but it was, early early 2000s so it was you know and all the things that we have in place now are not the way that it was back then right um but yeah no i think i i i don't know why that is yeah we'll have to dig into that at some point yeah childhood trauma later at a time yeah like like something happening yeah but like i don't even remember like something happening
00:54:58
Speaker
that ever made me like that. but yeah i don't think Yeah, I don't think so. And it seems to me that you'd think at some point I might have been stuck in a room or something.
00:55:10
Speaker
We did have instead of a classroom at our school early just this school year. The lock broke, so the the class were stuck inside and the teacher um and we had to use force to get the door open, which we did. They were stuck in there for about 10 minutes.
00:55:27
Speaker
But that's I'm trying to, I can't think of a time I've actually been stuck in a room or I don't know, car or somewhere that couldn't get out. um But I'll think about that.
00:55:42
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, it just gives you that. idea biggest fear, my biggest fear is being trapped in a car. Like and one that's in the water or, yeah or that has anything.
00:55:55
Speaker
I saw a clip of a show that i was I was flipping through channels the other night and it was covered in bees. And then there were people inside of the car.
00:56:05
Speaker
And so like the emergency people were trying to remove the bees to get the people out of the car. And I didn't stay there because I was like, oh, yeah.
00:56:16
Speaker
I'm not really claustrophobic, but that that would get that. Yeah. I don't like that feeling of being trapped at all. I wonder if I saw something. whenever I was a kid, like a movie or something.
00:56:30
Speaker
and And that just stuck with me. i don't think in the but Something in the back of your brain is yeah rears its ugly head once in a while. Yeah, we'll have to do a trauma-based bonus episode. so And it all started with the never-ending story. that's There we go, right?
00:56:48
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, let's see. Where are we? Yeah, so this is the beautiful moment where Ross and Susan are arguing away, but Phoebe reminds them, you know, how lucky this kid is going to be. to they She has people, or he has people arguing over who gets over the post.
00:57:06
Speaker
I loved that part so much because Susan and Ross are just rightlight right, right, right, right at other. And then she's like, this is so great. And he just looks at her and explain.
00:57:18
Speaker
And I just, I thought it was so sweet. And I'm like. Beautiful moment. Yeah. Yeah. And what what a lovely, ah like, spin, perspective on the situation.
00:57:34
Speaker
And it's it is nice. It is. It's, um yeah. I think any ah any situation that's not your typical situation, two parents, kids at home, everyone's happy.
00:57:48
Speaker
Any variant of that is going to result in some kind of potential jealousy or almost territory marking, or so you know ever yeah whether it's divorce or this or that.
00:57:59
Speaker
So it's really lovely thing from Phoebe that you could many people, including myself, could apply to their own life. um you know Focus on the child. How lucky is the child to have so many people who just want to love them?
00:58:14
Speaker
who just a wonderful little life lesson from Phoebe there um yeah go from that very poignant moment to Carol being in deep labor here they all come in she's 10 centimeters dilated okay question question whatever grabs a Chandler yes and and then she's got and he's like help help and I might be jumping ahead because i i don't I don't remember when exactly that happened.
00:58:50
Speaker
I think you're right. yeah and then And then they kind of take her hand off of his shirt and then he's like, oh, did anybody see a nipple? And yeah i yeah I thought that was so funny because of the nubbin.
00:59:04
Speaker
Yes, the nubbin next to And where her shirt or where she has grabbed him on the shirt is not a normal nipple placement place. And so I was like, I wondered if that wasn't his nubbin.
00:59:19
Speaker
That's a great catch. I didn't notice where she grabbed him. we Yeah. Great catch. I mean, because it's like right in center, kind of, you know? And so that cracked me up.
00:59:33
Speaker
That's a great catch. Well, and if it actually is something cool, but maybe not, you know? Yeah. Whenever the idea for the nubbin even popped into the writer's brains, who knows?
00:59:46
Speaker
but and But yeah, the the location of where she was grabbing seems not correct. not Not where Chandler's nipple would be. Maybe just the nubbin.
00:59:57
Speaker
Beautiful. Just the nubbin. ah So we go back. I have been so excited. So we're going back into the... Yes, I'm interested. I'm interested. So I sent Deanne a text last night when I was prepping for this episode.
01:00:09
Speaker
I did a little deep dive and I found out some information that I hadn't. Well, I made the connections, the information. i just didn't see this anywhere. So I'm sure people know it out there, people who are super nerdy about this stuff like Deanne and I. But I found it kind of fascinating. So Phoebe puts on Ben's overalls.
01:00:29
Speaker
Then Ross kind of lifts her up into the ceiling so she can go, um I do love her line. I see what appears to be a dark vent. um She kind of goes into this sort of military talk almost. Yeah.
01:00:44
Speaker
But then the janitor opens the door and Susan and um Ross, you know, run out, leaving Phoebe literally just hanging.
01:00:57
Speaker
So a little tip of the hat to Lana when I posted this on Facebook. She immediately said, I've got your legs. And that's this is the line that let me down a bit of a rabbit hole because I swore I recognized that voice.
01:01:11
Speaker
The janitor's only lines are, you forgot your legs. do you He was in Friends playing another character. Oh. A very small part, a tiny, ah like literally a two-line part.
01:01:24
Speaker
But I think this comes down to the fact I often watch Friends with my eyes closed. Like when we go to sleep at night, we'll often put up in episodes and I'll close my eyes and just listen to it. So I think perhaps I've gotten used to many of the voices. Yeah.
01:01:37
Speaker
So this guy actually appears at Barry and Mindy's wedding. He is, you remember Rachel wearing the big bright pink dress? Yeah, i do. She tucks into her undies back there. yeah And there's an older couple who come out and they say something, he says something like, oh, it's great to see you again. In fact, I didn't expect to see so much.
01:02:02
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And his wife goes, you told me you didn't see anything. And he goes, I tell you a lot of things. Do you remember that scene? That's the same guy. It's the same actor. Wow. Al, that's a catch.
01:02:15
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But wait, there's more. All right. Okay. So I looked up this actor and he's been in three things ever. He passed away 20 years ago, sad to say, but he has been three things ever.
01:02:31
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Friends, the spinoff of Friends, Joey, he played a tiny part of that and a show called Dream On that was made very briefly and then I think canceled in 1990.
01:02:45
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The people who created the show, Dream On, were Marta Kaufman and, first name's in the head, Crane. Okay, so how is he connected to them?
01:02:57
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Aha, because the three producers of Friends are Marta Kaufman, it's not David Crane, that's a Fraser reference, but Crane, and um Mark Bright.
01:03:09
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the other director of Friends. they got The actor- Mark Bright, Jackie Bright. Jackie Bright is the father of Martin Bright, of um Kevin Bright, the director of Friends.
01:03:23
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So he's not an actor really at all. He's only appeared in three things.
Special Cameos and Key Moments
01:03:27
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It was Bring Your Dad to Work Day. It was Kevin Bright's father and he only appeared in two things that Kevin Bright did and one other thing that was the two other directors. I'm not sure if directors, producers, exactly what their roles were at all times.
01:03:47
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But Coffin and Crane were involved in before. He'd played one tiny role in that too. So it seemed he was not a career actor by any stretch, but I love the thought of him maybe wanting to appear in one episode.
01:04:02
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What does his son do for a living? b you know let me sleep Let me come down to work with you one day. And they wrote in these tiny roles for him. I love that. We raise our glasses and tip our hats the actor Jackie Bright, who only appeared in his son's work, these three tiny parts, four tiny parts, whatever it is.
01:04:27
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That's so sweet. Wasn't that awesome? I don't know what he played in Joey because Joey got like, like disappeared. Like NBC took it down from every platform.
01:04:38
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Apparently there's a couple of episodes and they've put a couple back on YouTube. so and If they have, i need to go and watch them. um But yeah, yeah. Marta Kaufman and David Crane, um which ends, David ends up being, um did you ever watch the end of Frasier?
01:04:57
Speaker
No, no. So that this spoiler alert, um, mute. If you don't want to hear what happens at the end of Frasier, but Daphne and Niles have a son and they call him David.
01:05:08
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Um, and obviously their last name is Crane. Um, But David was eight and he was named David. I've suddenly, I'm on a tangent and I've lost my train of thought.
01:05:18
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But David was one of the, a different David was involved in the Frazier show. One of the directors or producers who died on September 11th in one of the planes. So, so that's why they named Niles and Daphne named their son, David was a tribute to somebody who passed away on September 11th.
01:05:37
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Um, But yeah, I just love this this rabbit hole of Jackie Bright. And and like i said, I should imagine as his son saying, why dot you come to work? We'll put you in front of the camera.
01:05:48
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We'll give you one line. um I wonder if that wasn't like a dream of his or something, you know? Something like that. yeah I was just all I said Steve of vo because Steve dig you know he's into this kind of stuff as well like the nerdom that is deep deep diving into so into these shows so I sent him a message it was like two in the morning his time but I didn't care because i was all excited um and he sent me a lovely message back this morning like um
01:06:19
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But we end up back in Carol's room. Ross and Susan burst in. Where have you been? um oh yeah, she's so mad. Right. And rightly so. Rightly so, of course. I mean, she can, especially at that stage of what she's going through, she can feel whatever she wants to feel. And rightly so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I'd be pretty livid if um if I was Carol, I think, at that point.
01:06:43
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And everyone gets kicked out. And then, of course, Ben is born. Well, he's not Ben at this point, but the baby is born. um It's a beautiful, it's ah it's a lovely moment of Ross, um you know, seeing his son be born. And um I kind of like that they focused on Ross for that little moment.
01:07:04
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um Yeah. thought that was beautifully done. And then we're still in Carol's room in the and ah Carol says, you know, I think we need to decide a name. And it's nice that Susan and Ross essentially have decided. Well, Ross, I think, just which one of them suggests Ben? Do you remember? Ross suggests it. Ross suggests You know, clearly so that's what Susan and Ross are going to put their differences aside over, um is over Ben.
01:07:30
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um And then every all the friends come in and meet Ben for the first time. and And I did find out last night that, so Monica says is a monica that says to Ben, I'll always have gum.
01:07:45
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Yes. So when Kate's niece was born, she said the same thing to her when she met her when she was, you hours old as a little tip of the hat to friends.
01:07:56
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She I'll always have gum to her niece Kennedy. She told me that last night. So friends is making me find out new things, which is awesome. That's so cute.
01:08:08
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Yeah. And then it's a lovely moment when they all come in, they all meet, all meet Ben. And Phoebe tells Susan that the baby looks just like her.
01:08:18
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That's right. That's right. which I think is is a great, great line. um But yeah, we have this end scene that and it's a little sad, but also kind of sweet the way Ross is, you know, sometimes I'll be gone for a while, but back and forth.
01:08:34
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it's quite It's quite sweet. um And then where all the friends, as we talked about in Bamboozled, are kind of just looking at him. um'm It's ah an interesting camera choice, like that point of view. I think it works quite well in this scene myself.
01:08:50
Speaker
I think it's a nice way to sort of wrap up the episode, um with you know coming at it from Ben's perspective. um Yeah. But yeah, I mean, to me, that's kind of the end of the episode. um Let's talk about your Gunther Central Park.
01:09:08
Speaker
Okay. would love to hear your thoughts on this. Okay. So ah while I was watching it and taking my notes and everything else, I had one choice and it made sense and I wrote it down.
01:09:22
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But as we talking through this episode, I, I'm like, man, I really, really, really appreciated Phoebe in this episode. And I really appreciated Chandler in this episode. Right.
01:09:37
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But my, my original, I'm going to stick with my original that I wrote down, which is, I don't know, but it was Ross, believe it or not.
01:09:49
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I'm about to fall out of my chair. I know. Right. Right. You've chosen Ross. I have because I, um, I just, I appreciated him in this episode. He was being like a doting father. He was there at the hospital, you know, but, and then he was still in his little Ross tizzies that he gets into, but at the end of it all, you know, and he was so excited about the baby being born and, uh, you know, was announcing so that Susan could be there with Carol and he's announcing what's happening there with the baby.
01:10:28
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right And then all this stuff at the end, whatever, it's he's talking to the baby. I thought it was really sweet. So I guess I'll stick with Ross, even though i did ah through this ah recording, i I feel like I could have easily been swayed to change my mind.
01:10:47
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That I'm shocked, but not a bad way, of because I see everything you've said. i'm like, yeah, I totally get it. Yeah. I found this to be the toughest one to choose at Gunther Central Park so far.
01:11:03
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Yeah. To me, I think with the exception of Rachel. Yeah. with that You could make a case for anybody to be, but or I could be my favorite character.
01:11:14
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Yeah. And I really had to do some reflecting, like what criteria do I use? And... I made a decision to not do Chandler or Monica because it was them together I liked. It wasn't just one of them.
01:11:27
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I do love that Chandler stuck up for Monica with her mom and things like that. But yeah it was really the dynamic between them. So they were out the picture. um I bounced back and forth an awful lot between Joey and Phoebe.
01:11:41
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Yeah. And... I think it it was really, it was Phoebe's scene where she talks about how going to have so many people that love him. That was really the ah great moment.
01:11:52
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But decided I can't have a Gunther Central Park because of one moment. So I went with Joey because even though it was kind of the dynamic between him and Lydia, She wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy.
01:12:05
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It was really him. The way he stuck up for her and we saw a different side of Joey. The balloon, the helping her through things when she was alone. I think Joey tracks throughout all the friends as being one of the best friends to the others.
01:12:22
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Yeah. um and And he he realized that she had nobody and he was willing to miss out on, you know, the birth of Ben and being with all his friends to make sure that Lydia had someone there with her, um a virtual stranger.
01:12:38
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And to me, it just I had to go with Joey, had to go with Joey for this one. That's a solid choice. love it. But it it was far and away the most difficult episode for me to choose just one.
01:12:50
Speaker
Okay. Like, I even love the way that Ross and Susan came together in the end. They hashed out all the different... i love... Yes. but I thought Susan was really nice in this episode did the you know so as it progressed.
01:13:03
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um So, yeah, can make an argument for for for almost anybody, I feel. um Except for Rachel. Except for Rachel. And she didn't do anything wrong, but she just, her storyline was this creepy doctor and, and, and focusing on that rather than her friend giving birth.
01:13:21
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Right. Right. Yeah. Not a huge fan of, of Rachel in this one. Uh, we've touched on a lot of brand new information with, um, You know, Leah Remini being in it, who went on to be you know somewhat of superstar in lots of ways.
01:13:36
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um The actress, ah her name is suddenly going to my head, who plate comes back and plays Estelle Gable, June Gable. And then um the Mr. Bright, who comes back in...
01:13:47
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um you Jackie Bright, that story that we've talked about ad nauseum already. um So lots of new interesting stuff in this one.
01:13:58
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ah But we do have a couple of pieces of listener mail. I'm going hop on over to Facebook. And wow, that was loud. That was, ah yeah, my Facebook opening. Let me...
01:14:09
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Okay, batting really loud in my ear. So we have two comments, one from our good friend Veronica, who's contributed before, Veronica Zahorikova. She said, this is a lovely episode. I like how Phoebe intervened and when we learn how Ben got his name.
01:14:27
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um Also, the last scene, which we just talked about, is so unique and cute. P.S. Monica saying she wants babies and whining that some women can have twins and she can't even have one. It's cute since, spoiler alert, she has twins at the end, which which I didn't catch. We talked about that briefly before we went on air.
01:14:48
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um Coincidence or
Listener Insights and Community Building
01:14:50
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not, it doesn't matter. It's a lovely, lovely moment and a lovely bit of foreshadowing that Veronica caught there. And then we have a new friend, Christina Lavorna. Great catch, Veronica. Yeah, great catch.
01:15:01
Speaker
Again, on a slight tangent, slight side note, this is one of the main reasons I love doing this podcast is I can watch an episode 20 times and you, Deanne, and then others see things I just never caught, um which I just love finding out these things.
01:15:16
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um christina laverna a new and new contributor said love your podcast was recommended to me via the we're listening a fraser podcast and you guys do such a great job so highly recommend if you're interested in fraser at all we're listening is a well-oiled machine they've been going for about five years we have great friends over there steve who featured in episode one and three of this podcast uh is on many of their episodes um so highly highly recommend even if you've not really watched fraser maybe watch it and listen to the podcast um will steve key the three guys over there do a great job um but she said her favorite little part of this episode is when phoebe says it's so great how ross and susan are fighting over who gets to love the baby the most she puts a positive spin on the argument and also adds a different perspective in a graceful way i could not agree more with that um yeah
01:16:12
Speaker
Very, very. Excellent point, Christina. Yeah. Thank you so much. And again, we'd love to have even more of you contributing. We'll try to get better about posting ah what we're recording ahead of time, you know more, ah give you guys more time.
01:16:26
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um Because again, we don't want this to be just the two of us yakking away. We'd love it to be even more of a community. um So yeah, we we welcome all your thoughts.
01:16:37
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Oh my God, Al. Yes. so I pulled up Facebook and how stupid of me. You posted the picture of them all looking. Of course I did. There you go. You All this says to me that both you and I play bamboozled with a high degree of integrity.
01:17:01
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that's yeah you Look, Paracel's on the back again. That's all it says. Wow.
Light-hearted Moments and Episode Reflection
01:17:08
Speaker
wow Amazing. okay Okay. Whoops. There we go. i basically gave you the answers without really meaning to do it. um Now talk to me. How many cups of hot central... Oh, i got better I'm at the Station of Life. Kate and I got a new coffee maker, a percolator thing, this weekend.
01:17:29
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Very exciting times in our household. Some of you may know I roast my own coffee and I'm very excited about a new coffee maker in our house. So, Deanne, if you were over here enjoying some freshly percolated cups of coffee from our fancy new coffee maker... Very fancy.
01:17:45
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How many would I be pouring for you in honor of this episode? Okay. So it's funny that you said criteria and all that, because I have none. No criteria. here oh with your cut I like it. This is my gut.
01:18:00
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Yes. Nine cups. Because just love this episode. It's funny. It's solid and it's sweet and it's good. And, and, you know, and then that's just a little ounce of creepy and,
01:18:14
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There is a bit of... Nine. Nine. Nine. Well, in the spirit of integrity, I'm trying to show you my notes. connect
01:18:25
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No! But again, I've also gone with nine because I really felt that this speaks to the two things I love. Like, I love just classic friends, sort of surface level, you just funny jokes, funny stuff.
01:18:39
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But then also we get to deep dive into these, you Leah Remini, I love being on there. ah June Gable, ah the Bright Family thing we've talked about. I love all of these interesting intricacies.
01:18:52
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I love the way that Ben's name came about. There was so much love about this episode. I have also gone with nine very full cups of coffee for this episode.
01:19:03
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Okay. So I do want to tell you about the why why I had a hard time doing nine. I was like, nine? I'm like, 97% sure I have not done nine on any other episodes.
01:19:19
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And then I'm like, so what would 10 be? And i know what 10 would be, but it's quite a few seasons away. But i I don't know. But I was like, it's not 10.
01:19:33
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But it's also higher than anything else that we have talked about yet this season. And that's That's my criteria. That was it. It would be interesting because there's one episode that is very, very popular in the Friends universe, a very highly rated episode that I also love.
01:19:52
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And in my head, that might potentially be a 10. But I feel, I don't know if you feel like this, but I feel like I'm watching Friends through a slightly different lens now than when watched before. So it'll be interesting when we get there. I'm not going to watch it ahead of time.
01:20:07
Speaker
If I'll still think it's as good, I suspect I will. yes but it's this is giving me a new perspective on watching the show right yeah okay because the one with the high guy like i was shocked at how much i really did not like that episode right but there's that's iconic right everyone knows you think tartlets tartlets everyone knows yeah
01:20:39
Speaker
Yeah. So it's, it's, it's just fantastic. It's, uh, it's yeah. I, I, I, and honestly, this episode, to be honest, I don't remember liking it this much at all. Like I remember, oh, it's just, it's fine.
01:20:51
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But I watching it again through this slightly different hosting a podcast lens. This is, this to me is a brilliant episode. Brilliant episode.
01:21:02
Speaker
And if this had been the season finale, what an end to the season it would have been. you know, not discussing my feelings about next week at all. Irrelevant. and but If this had finished, what a great way it would have been.
01:21:15
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And it wouldn't have been making you wonder anything. No, no. Like, I would have been fine with season one ending right here.
01:21:26
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100%. would have been just fine. Yep, 100%. But as we know, does it, we have the season finale recording. We'll record that and it'll be out next week, um which we're very excited about.
01:21:39
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um That one is the one where Rachel finds out and then we will have a special bonus episode. We're going to work on that before we start season two. I can't believe we're almost at the end of season one, but it is you know the one where Rachel finds out. But before we get off the air, do you have any final thoughts about this episode?
01:21:59
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No, I think I just shared them all. I think so too. this This is going to be one of our longest episodes yet, which speaks to the greatness that is the one with the birth. So on that note, thank you guys all for tuning in to the Purple Door podcast.